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Goon Squad: Resident Evil Review & Wolverine Game Backlash · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  >> Just hold on. We're going to have our own talk and talk amongst yourselves. Yeah.
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  >> No one listen to what we're saying for the next five minutes. >> Yeah.
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  Yeah. So, um, but here we are. >> Here we are. >> And yeah, hopefully you know what this
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  is. I hope you know what you know what you're getting into.
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  >> Well, you're already here. Or if you're new, welcome. >> Yeah, welcome.
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  >> This is what it is. >> Hope you like it. >> I did do some stuff this week.
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  >> What did you do? I know. >> Movies. >> I saw two movies in one day.
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  >> Did you? Oh, so technically you lied to me then cuz I guessed what movie you
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  were going to see and you said no. But then you did. I I decided to go after
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  off. All right. >> So, first movie I saw >> I inspired you. That's how I >> Yes, you did.
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  >> First movie I saw was Transformers. >> Yeah. Michael Ba's Transformers.
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  >> No, the 40th anniversary of the Transformers the movie. >> Transformers.
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  >> We were idiots as children, >> were we? >> Yes. While this movie was still fun and
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  I enjoyed it and it was good to see sit in a big screen, the movie makes no sense.
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  >> H there's >> a little bit since I've seen it.
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  >> Okay. You remember the part where it was on Junk Planet? >> Yeah.
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  >> And you got Eric Idol and for some reason the junk people are trying to attack them
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  >> and then they say the then the hot rod comes along and says the international
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  greeting. Hana meet Millie Bomb or whatever it is. >> Yep. And then the drunk people start
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  laughing and then they all start dancing. >> Mhm. Mhm. >> Be stupid. [laughter]
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  >> Weird. >> Yes. >> And that pit just really hit me go what? Like
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  >> Yeah. >> But no, it was enjoyable. I'm happy I saw it. I did get a shock that Oh,
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  what's the guy who died recently does Optimus Prime?
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  >> Uh Cullen. Peter Cullen. Yeah, he in the opening sequence his voice is his name
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  isn't there. They've got Lin and Nemoy and Eric and everyone, but his name's
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  not in the opening and I think it's because at the time >> he >> he wasn't a star.
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  >> He wasn't a star that he was. >> Yeah. >> Oh, that's right. Yeah, because it's
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  Unicron and then Megatron becomes Calron. Yeah. Because did you you know
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  the story of the Transformers the movie, right? There's a uh there's a very good
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  um oh [ __ ] what's his name? H Bomber Guy video about this um >> okay
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  >> about Hasbro basically were like making the cartoon series. It was just sell
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  sell toys was it was just it was an advertisement and they'd never considered >> that kids
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  loved the characters already. They just didn't think about it like that.
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  >> Yeah. They were like >> we we want to make new toys. How do we
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  >> get rid of all of these characters? let's make a movie and we'll just kill
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  them all off and then make new ones. And then that's what the that's what
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  Transformers the movie is is them like if and if you watch it knowing that you can see it
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  >> like literally all the old characters die or go away or whatever
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  >> and then they're introducing all these new characters
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  >> or literally turn into new characters. >> Yes. Like cuz when you think of
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  Transformers and like Decepticons, you think Megatron. You don't think Galvatron,
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  >> right? Yeah. But same person, mate. >> Same person. >> Yeah. [laughter] Um
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  >> David Starscream. >> Yeah. Yes. And then but then the movie
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  came out and all these kids were like horrified and crying in this theaters
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  and then all the Hasbro people were like oh didn't think about that.
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  >> Optimus Prime's dead. Like whatever. But the kids were like Optimus Prime.
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  >> Yeah. >> Pretty funny. >> It was fun. >> I don't think I'll ever watch it again
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  though. >> No. Oh, just the soundtrack was awesome though.
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  >> Yeah. Yeah. Uh the main theme by Lion, I believe.
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  >> And oh god, who is it? Someone does two songs. >> Stan Bush.
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  >> Not the touch. Stan Bush. Yeah. >> Yep. >> He does the power and um
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  >> the touchs. >> Yeah, that one. >> Great songs.
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  >> And has my favorite character, Hot Rod or Ronus Prime?
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  >> Yes, he becomes Ronus Prime. Yeah. A new character who becomes another new
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  character in the movie. So, we like got bored of him halfway through the movie.
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  >> I don't Hot Run was almost my favorite. >> Yeah.
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  >> And then we got the real life movies and they combined Hot Rod and Bumblebee
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  together into one character. >> Yeah, I guess they did, didn't they?
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  >> I That's how I sort of see it. They sort of took Bumblebee and then
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  >> cuz he was a Camaro, not a >> Yeah. >> Not a Volkswagen >> like a Beetle.
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  >> That would have been a weird movie. Well, they didn't make that movie. Well,
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  he he was actually he was a he was a uh beetle briefly in it, isn't he? And then
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  he changes into a command. >> Yes. Because what's his name? Goes, "No,
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  not that car." And then they turn around and change.
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  >> Cuz they want Sam because
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  some stupid [ __ ] >> I mean, I liked that movie when it came out.
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  >> I like the Bumblebee movie. >> I haven't seen that.
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  >> You should see. I actually quite like that one. >> Okay. All right.
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  All right. So, you saw Transformers. Uh, it didn't quite hold up to your memory.
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  >> Hold up, but I will still treasure it forever while never watching it again. [laughter]
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  >> But then with being inspired by you, I then decided to go see Resident Evil.
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  >> All right. The new Resident Evil by Zack Kger. >> Um, this thing is getting [ __ ]
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  insanely good reviews.
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  It is great. It is. It's fun. >> Yeah. Okay.
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  >> And and it it's it is also a comedy. >> Yeah. He said in an interview recently
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  that he he did dial the comedy back after some test screenings when people
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  said it was too funny and so he dialed it back. But >> but I liked a lot of the humor. The
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  humor was sort of poking fun at Resident Evil. Like >> All right.
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  >> Like there's padlocks like and like there's another padlock. And
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  >> there was one time where he's trying to get out of a gate and he can't find the
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  key. So, I'm just going to shoot it. Can't shoot the padlock. I'm just going
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  to drive through. It destroys the car. Like, you need that padlock to open that up.
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  >> Okay. Interesting. >> Even finding the shotgun ammo is like
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  the ammo from the game. And little things like that, little nods. And it's
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  a standalone movie, which I like. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's set from what he
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  said in the timeline of Resident Evil 2, like Raccoon City stuff is happening,
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  but it's not about that. It's about another guy doing >> something else. >> Yes.
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  >> While that's happening. Yeah. >> While that's happening and Yeah. No,
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  definitely go see this. It's >> It's good. >> Okay. Yeah. No, I really want to see it.
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  Yeah. I love Zachary. I can't believe it's the [ __ ] guy from Whitest Kids,
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  you know, is doing all this [ __ ] >> Yep. But it worked well for him.
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  >> Yeah. >> But you know, >> I just think it's too much. I just think it's too much.
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  >> The humor is just perfect. Like it's not
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  it's not like slapstick silly comedy. It's actually like the the cinema was
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  laughing with me. >> Yeah. >> Like he's got good taste for I mean well
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  look at his other [ __ ] movies like [clears throat] >> Yeah. He knows when to
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  >> when to joke and when to >> Yeah. be serious or whatever. Yeah. >> Yep.
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  >> Oh, that's good news. I'm very excited. I remember we talked about I think at
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  the time the script leaked or something and everyone was freaking out about it
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  because they were like this is like >> goofy >> like and stupid but sounds like it
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  works. >> Yes, it does work. Or they dialed it back a lot from
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  >> from from the original script. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Right.
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  And so while we're still on movies, we have some news about Escape from New York.
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  >> Oh, so I didn't know about this. I don't think Do we ever talk about this? Did we
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  know this? Did we know that Zack Snder was doing a remake of Escape from New York?
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  >> If there was anyone I didn't want to do that remake, it would be him.
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  >> I feel like I maybe we did talk about and I've just blanked it out. >> [clears throat]
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  >> So, but it okay. So, he said he uh he's
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  going to do it as if the movie is set in 1997 from the perspective of 1981.
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  So, like he's going to do it like the original kind of
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  >> the Pro's got a movie set in 1981. >> Yeah. So, he's making it like a retro
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  style I guess. Um, you know what I mean? Like >> Yeah.
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  >> trying to make it look like it did back then a little bit to
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  >> I mean I can't imagine he's going to make it look like he's going to make it
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  look like a [ __ ] Zack Snider movie where everything's going to be in slow
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  motion with [ __ ] speed ramping and weird [ __ ] which I mean
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  >> say what you want. I think he makes bad movies, but he makes pretty movies. I'll
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  give him that. He's a good visually he's he's good. >> I just
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  >> I just haven't liked his movies. >> Yeah. Um, >> did he write this? No. John Carpenter
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  wrote the original. So hopefully >> we'll wait and see.
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  >> Yeah. I don't know. I just I >> cuz they were they were fun movies to
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  watch back in the day. >> Oh, I love the originals. Yeah. I got no issues with
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  >> that. It's just that I just don't trust Zack Snider. >> No.
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  >> Yeah. Like I said, his movies are kind of for to me very hollow
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  like >> And are we going to get the 4hour cut as well?
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  >> Cuz that seems to be a thing of his now >> cuz I tried to watch what was that
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  recent one of his Rebel Moon. >> Oh, Rebel Moon. >> Yeah, I watched the first one.
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  >> Yeah, I didn't second one. >> Just it was it just wasn't very good. >> No, but
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  >> but it's got some cool stuff in it. That's kind of That's his thing. That
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  robot was cool. And >> yeah, visuals like again it's style over
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  substance. I think that's my problem with him. Either that or I just don't get it.
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  >> Well, I think that's why he he's probably starting to hear that. So he
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  with substance he go to give people that I need to make the movie extra long. So
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  maybe why that's why he's leaning into that now cuz he did it for he got the
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  Snider cut of Batman vs. Superman was or Justice League.
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  >> Justice League. Yeah. Yeah. With Rebel Moon, there was the extended cut.
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  >> Oh, there was, wasn't there? >> Which I never watched that because I watched the
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  >> 24-hour version of whatever the [ __ ] it ended up being. >> No, I just one.
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  >> Yeah. So, I think he he he's not learning how to add that to
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  >> a movie length. He's I'll just make more movie and try and explain it all.
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  >> Yeah. Oh, well. Well, I >> I'm going to see it though cuz I need to
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  know cuz I am hoping it's going to be good, but I'm not expecting it. >> Yeah.
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  And to be clear, in interviews, he seems very nice as well. That's why I I feel like
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  >> I want to like his stuff. I just don't. So, I know maybe this will be different. I
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  >> think the last movie of his I liked was >> 300.
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  >> Yeah. Um, >> trying to think >> what did he do before that? He did the
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  he did the Dawn of the Dead remake, >> uh, which was written by James Gun.
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  >> Yeah. [snorts] >> And then I think I think if he doesn't
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  write this, maybe it could be all right. I think the problem is that he started
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  writing everything and they weren't very good. >> That's what I think.
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  >> So 300 Army Dig, Wonder Woman, who was a writer on
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  >> uh Army of the Dead was [clears throat] all right. I think. Right.
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  >> Which one was that one? It's >> the one with Dave Batista.
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  >> Oh, actually, yeah, I actually quite like that one. No, that's probably the
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  last one I quite liked. And then there was the other movie he did after that,
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  the sort of prequel. >> I didn't watch that one, but the vault breaker guy.
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  >> Yeah. So, nothing to do with zombies at all. >> Yeah, I didn't watch that. Was it good?
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  >> Yeah, I I actually Yeah. [sighs]
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  >> So, maybe there is stuff. It's just he's >> big big stuff is not the greatest.
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  >> No. >> That's what it was. >> Army. Okay. He's got some other movie
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  out now. The last photograph or something and I saw people. It's not
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  doing very well critically. >> Didn't even hear about it. Yeah, it's a
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  it's an indie thing and it's but it's like I've read the this I briefly
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  skimmed this article about it because I was interested and it said that he
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  >> it's like he it's an indie thing but he's still trying to do his thing and it
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  doesn't really work cuz he's trying to make a little indie film but he's but
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  he's trying to do it make it like a Zack Snider thing. That's
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  >> sorry. A little indie movie doesn't get real helicopters. [laughter]
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  I didn't know it had real helicop Oh. Oh, it's like an action movie. >> Yeah.
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  >> Well, hang on. There's a man with a gun. I guess it doesn't.
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  >> Well, an exa DEA agent searches South America mountains for his murdered
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  diplomat siblings children. >> Do you know what? That's not what I thought.
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  >> I didn't read anything about what the movie is about. Just about his, you
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  know, his his making like people's opinion of his craft, I guess.
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  >> Mhm. I [clears throat] didn't know it was that kind of movie.
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  >> It's not what you think of when you hear Last Photograph, is it?
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  >> No. I honestly I thought it was like a quiet little indie film. That's I had it
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  in my head that it was like um I don't know, like a a man
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  reconciling with his lost parents or wife or something stupid like that. >> Yeah.
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  >> Sorry, shouldn't say something stupid like that. Nothing [laughter] stupid
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  about that. I just I didn't realize it was a guy with a gun rampaging through
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  South America. That's quite different. [laughter] >> Yeah, that's all I meant to convey
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  there. >> Okay. >> All right. I mean, that makes more sense.
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  >> Yes. >> Than what I thought. [snorts] >> Still not going to watch that, though.
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  >> No. >> Video games. >> Video games. There's a bit happening this week.
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  >> There's some news. Yeah. >> People upsetting in which is
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  >> Yeah. Where do you want to start? >> Horror. >> Yeah. Where do you want to start with
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  the upset people? >> Let's go straight to Wolverine.
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  >> Yeah. >> Good game.
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  >> Yeah. Apparently, it's fine. >> Yeah. >> Just no one wants a game that's fine.
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  They want the best or nothing. >> And it feels like from really started,
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  people are looking for things to find problems with it.
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  >> This was I think this was slightly before it was released. There was this
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  whole thing about because people Yes, you're right. people. There was already
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  people [ __ ] on it and it spread into, you know, like on the internet how
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  it does once every >> once something catches on and everybody's [ __ ] on something, it
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  will continue. >> And this thing was, I guess, sort of like in The Witcher 3,
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  Wolverine can like smell stuff and he has like a
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  scent view where you can see. >> Yeah, that makes it sort of makes sense. He
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  >> Yeah. So, like if you need to find somebody, you can follow their scent. If
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  you need to find something, you can follow its scent. >> Y >> um but the the joke became
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  >> Wolverine fart sniffer. >> Yes. Because people were saying it is
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  always turned on. So, it's always >> you're always smelling people's farts.
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  fast [laughter] >> the developer had to come out and say no
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  >> it's just certain certain scenarios >> or there's a collectible nearby it'll
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  alert you that's it it's not >> Mhm. Again these people had not played the game yet.
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  >> No. >> Um so the game is out
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  >> and I mean people still don't like it. Even Gabe from Penny Arcade
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  or Mike his real name uh posted
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  a blog post saying he doesn't like it. >> Yeah, >> it's this is just boring.
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  >> I think people also bit upset because they're saying it's woke because
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  Mystique is unsexy. [laughter] I saw that.
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  That's very funny. [ __ ] uh Okay,
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  >> what does that mean? >> I was going to say what does that mean?
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  Is she just not naked? Right. Is that what it is?
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  >> I don't. Or is she just in spiky form all the time or
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  >> you look at Mystique and Jean Gray in Wolverine?
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  >> Oh, okay. She's Yeah, she's got clothes on. >> Oh,
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  yeah. That So, they're upset she's not naked.
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  >> Interesting. Yeah. So, I found this Reddit post and it's got a picture of
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  them and then I mean they look fine. They just look like women to me. And
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  then I scroll down. The top comment was, "Sweet baby Inc. strikes again. They
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  really hate the concept of attractive women." And then both are really fugly.
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  [snorts] Uh, and someone else said, "There are people
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  who think Jean looks ugly." Yeah, I think I don't know. They look normal. I
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  think that's the problem. They're just people, >> not like I mean, yeah, people want
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  Rebecca Roma or Roma. She's let us rea
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  Roman or Rebecca Stamos. No, she's not anymore. She's married to Jerry
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  McConnell, right? >> What does she go by these days? Not that
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  this matters. Rebecca Roman. She goes by Rebecca Ramen, I guess, her um
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  her maiden name. But she is married to Jerry Oonnell. Um
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  or Jennifer Lawrence. [snorts] >> I'm looking at the pictures and I Yeah,
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  I don't see what the problem is. I think, as I said, they're looking for issues.
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  >> They want hypers sexualized like >> Yeah.
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  >> weird, you know, stuff they can go to. >> Yes. [laughter]
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  I don't What is Can you explain Gooning to me? I don't understand it. I've seen
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  >> I think what I think I'm not going to look anything up. I'm going to tell you
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  what I think it is based on the text. I think it's when you It's kind of like a
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  It makes me think of incel a little bit in that it's like just you just jerk off
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  over stuff and you don't actually >> like
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  hook up with people I think. Hang on, let me look that up. That's what I think it is.
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  >> Gooning meaning. >> Oh no, it's not. It's Oh, it's it's No,
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  it's different. Although I Okay. Gooning is internet slang for the practice of
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  prolonged masturbation and extreme edging while consuming pornography,
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  aiming for a translike state of continuous arousal without an orgasm.
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  Okay, that's that is different to what I thought. >> That is very different.
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  >> So, it's specifically doing it for a long time while watching
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  porn, I guess, and attempting to
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  >> enlighten. >> [laughter] >> It does. Okay. [ __ ] the Google AI.
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  The key aspects of gooning. The goon state. A hypnotic meditative state of
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  intense focus and pleasure achieved by delaying orgasm for hours. The gooner.
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  Slang for a person who participates in this subculture, often spending
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  excessive time on the activity. Goon cave. Dedicated room or space in the
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  home set up by individuals specifically for extended pornography viewing and
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  sexual sessions. internet culture. The term spread widely across platforms like
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  Tik Tok, Reddit, blah blah blah. Health concerns. Experts note that chronic
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  gooning can [laughter] lead to compulsive habit loops, dopamine
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  burnout, and negative outcomes like erectile dysfunction.
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  >> So, what I'm getting is it's basically like tantric sex you do by yourself,
• 23:30
  >> I guess. So, yeah. >> Yep. >> Okay. Well,
• 23:36
  >> yeah. >> Gooning's not for me. You heard it here first, folks.
• 23:42
  >> You don't, you know, you haven't tried it. >> I assume, actually, you know what? I
• 23:45
  shouldn't assume. >> I haven't cuz just, as I said, sounds like a lot of work.
• 23:51
  >> Yeah, you got video games to play. >> Yeah, >> you get your death.
• 23:56
  >> That's what I say. >> Burn out from video games. [laughter] [snorts] >> All right.
• 24:01
  >> Look, I think the main thing with Wolverine, let's see if it sells.
• 24:04
  >> Yes. All right. So maybe we can't jerk off to it, but uh maybe some people will
• 24:09
  enjoy playing it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Because it's sort of hard because I see
• 24:13
  there's also a lot of people out there defending it as well. So
• 24:16
  >> yeah, that's the thing is it seems like it's fine. It's just
• 24:20
  >> I don't know. There's a lot of games. That's the problem, I think, is that
• 24:23
  there's a lot of games. There's a lot of options >> and people don't want something that's
• 24:27
  just fine. They want everything to be the [ __ ] >> Everything has to be great.
• 24:31
  >> Yeah. And >> quadruple AAA games. And I guess, you know, it's weird because it's
• 24:37
  Insomniac and they made the Spider-Man games. Although I did see someone else
• 24:41
  say only the first Spider-Man game was actually that good. The second one was
• 24:46
  >> just fine. Apparently, I've not I've got I've got the first game on the
• 24:49
  PlayStation. I've not played it. >> Yeah. >> Be clear about that.
• 24:54
  Um you will wonder what someone said is >> this is my uh my hearsay is that the
• 25:00
  first game is very good and the second one is is all right and then now
• 25:05
  Wolverine is also all right. So maybe I don't know maybe the first one was a fluke.
• 25:08
  >> Yeah, who knows? Well, I guess we'll see if they ever
• 25:12
  make another good game. We'll know that. >> Yes. >> Yeah.
• 25:17
  >> I don't care if they make good games or not. Um, but people are mad about a game
• 25:22
  that I have played and enjoyed quite a bit is Professor Leighton. I liked those
• 25:28
  a lot on my >> That's some brain training stuff, isn't it?
• 25:33
  >> Uh, it's like a puzzle game. Yeah, it's it's it was on the DS originally. That's
• 25:37
  where I played it. >> Just play on the train. >> Um, >> Professor Leighton and the Curious
• 25:42
  Village in particular, I played all the way through on my Nintendo DS. Uh,
• 25:46
  really loved it. They're doing a remake of it. >> Mhm. presumably with new puzzles and new
• 25:50
  artwork and stuff like that, which uh is very exciting to me except there's been
• 25:55
  some backlash this week because they posted a trailer and some screenshots
• 25:59
  and stuff. Um yeah, it's comparing two different
• 26:06
  trailers from Nintendo. Uh well, not from Nintendo, what's the developer
• 26:10
  name? Level Five. Uh, and people think they're using AI generated
• 26:16
  art in the remake >> because they believe the artwork has
• 26:21
  mistakes that only AI would make. >> Mhm. >> And uh, people really mad about it. Oh,
• 26:27
  no. Level 5 is definitely using Gen AI to update Professor Leighton, especially
• 26:31
  when you compare the original backgrounds to the new. So many weird
• 26:33
  details and inconsistencies were added. Um,
• 26:38
  they said they came out and they said that
• 26:43
  they did use some >> for the show for the for that trailer, I
• 26:48
  guess, for the Vision 2026 2 showcase. [ __ ] Japanese naming for things.
• 26:54
  Makes it hard to explain what I'm talking about [snorts] for the video.
• 26:58
  >> Could it be that? Look. Oh, we need to get something out, but we're not ready.
• 27:01
  So, let's quickly >> maybe. Um,
• 27:06
  so they they did do some gen asked us to make the the presentation flashy, but
• 27:11
  they also said that a lot of the stuff um that people are pointing out is actually
• 27:17
  just mistakes people made, humans made. >> Oh, >> so they I mean they said
• 27:23
  >> so yes, we used AI, but it's not sort of stuff you think.
• 27:25
  >> Yeah. Some of those things you're pointing out we just [ __ ] up and like
• 27:29
  Yeah. So yeah, I don't know. And that's not that that has not um gone over well
• 27:34
  because people >> no >> saying well okay so you admit he did use it so >> because
• 27:41
  >> yeah people don't want that >> they don't want it but then they also do
• 27:47
  >> yeah so everyone keeps telling me
• 27:52
  >> yeah CEOs want it >> yeah well I think the reason why they
• 27:57
  want it as well is it because they don't have to hire as many people and you can
• 28:00
  actually get stuff done faster. >> Yes. Yeah.
• 28:06
  >> But that will also mean faster with leads to mistakes.
• 28:10
  >> Well, they've said before the game comes out, they will clean up errors caused by
• 28:14
  AI use as well as human mistakes that look like AI errors and upload corrected
• 28:18
  versions of the trailers to coincide with Tokyo Game Show, which opens to the
• 28:23
  public this weekend. So, I guess now, but
• 28:29
  it's might be too late. Um, [clears throat] >> trying to
• 28:36
  >> I'm trying to look I'm looking at the pictures and I can't really tell.
• 28:41
  >> There's one I saw I think on Reddit somebody pointed out there's like a a
• 28:45
  picture. It's the background is like a staircase. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So,
• 28:49
  if you scroll up, there's the there's a couple of embedded tweets or X's or
• 28:53
  posts or whatever the [ __ ] you call these things now.
• 28:55
  >> And then uh on there there's one where oh, it doesn't have the side by side.
• 29:01
  There's a picture of Professor Leighton and a guy with a beard standing in a
• 29:05
  room and then see behind them. See the stairs behind them? >> Y
• 29:09
  >> how they kind of like the stairs themselves disappear halfway up.
• 29:12
  >> Yeah. They sort of just stop >> in the original. That's that. So that's
• 29:16
  a screenshot from the new game, >> the remake. In the original, it doesn't
• 29:20
  look like that. The stairs continue and they look normal.
• 29:23
  >> And so people are saying that's an AI thing and it's >> But you can actually
• 29:28
  >> you can actually explain that in real life as well.
• 29:31
  >> Well, that's what I mean though. But I think the it only makes people think
• 29:35
  that because the original doesn't look like that. >> And so I guess technically if they're
• 29:41
  saying humans made a mistake. I mean, there could be one. That could be that
• 29:45
  was a mistake the humans made. The AI actually fixed that.
• 29:48
  >> Yeah. If they were rushing to make this trailer or get this done for or
• 29:53
  whatever, I guess >> cuz it does. It's the the staircase is
• 29:57
  turning and at a certain point instead of like like transitioning the view, it
• 30:02
  just they just stop. The stairs stop >> and it looks weird. When you notice it,
• 30:06
  it looks weird >> when you But but when you look at it though, that could actually
• 30:10
  >> it doesn't actually look that bad. But actually, yeah, that could actually be
• 30:13
  that's just a little bit of a landing that they have there to make the 90
• 30:16
  degree turn and then it goes up. >> It's actually plausible. So, >> yeah,
• 30:21
  >> it's only the comparison, I think, that makes it >> makes it look bad.
• 30:25
  >> Well, I hope they get it right and I hope you enjoy it again. Oh my god. I
• 30:30
  just scroll down and one of the tweets is, "Let's kill him." >> What?
• 30:35
  I don't know who this is for though. Is that for him? Where are you seeing that?
• 30:41
  >> Just Oh. Oh. Oh no. I'm just on X. I just need to get off of here.
• 30:45
  >> Okay. Yeah. Don't Why don't click through to X? >> I click through.
• 30:48
  >> No, don't do that. >> No. X is not for me. >> No.
• 30:54
  >> So, [snorts] who knows what who I'm talking about.
• 30:57
  >> Uh, some more bad news. Although, I don't know if it is bad news. Um,
• 31:02
  >> it's news that doesn't affect me. [laughter] >> I guess it's not bad news for you then.
• 31:07
  [snorts] uh 007 first light >> on Switch 2 has been delayed again until
• 31:13
  um March next year which is a long time and I was like a man that's a bummer
• 31:19
  because sometimes I think I want to play games on my Switch. >> Mhm.
• 31:24
  >> Um but then I remember I really should just play games on my Xbox. These these
• 31:29
  kind of games >> these kinds of games which is there are
• 31:32
  games that are good on like a small screen and then there's games you want
• 31:34
  to experience on a big screen. And I think >> well I mean I do the Switch to you play
• 31:39
  on the big screen as well and I do more freely. >> Oh yeah, >> but like
• 31:46
  >> go back to play this. >> Um I do want to play this. I'm waiting.
• 31:52
  It's been slightly on sale. >> I'm waiting for it to go on sale.
• 31:56
  >> Do we know when it was expected to come out? Are they just sort of going, "Hey,
• 32:00
  we're getting too close to >> I think it was supposed to come out the
• 32:03
  same time as the others." Okay. >> It was supposed to come out Yeah. in April.
• 32:09
  >> Oh, yeah. And then last minute delay >> and it got delayed till fall and now
• 32:13
  it's been delayed again till next year. >> Now I wonder if it's really needs to
• 32:17
  then or they're just trying to stay away from Grand Theft Auto.
• 32:21
  >> Yeah. I don't know. Is Grand Theft Auto coming out on Switch 2?
• 32:25
  >> I I I don't even think it's the fact it's coming out on the It's not coming
• 32:29
  out on I just everyone just wants to avoid it. >> Yeah. No, that makes sense. Like even if
• 32:35
  I look at like I look at games that are coming out and in November there's just
• 32:40
  nothing except Grand Theft Auto 6 >> cuz no one's going to no one's going to
• 32:45
  compete with that. >> No. >> Doesn't matter what. Even PC is staying away from it.
• 32:51
  >> Yeah. And I think I mean is it just performance because the Switch 2 is
• 32:58
  comparatively like underpowered and I guess that's what it is. >> I'd say yes.
• 33:03
  >> It's weird. [snorts] I don't even think about the Switch 2 like that anymore. I did
• 33:06
  >> I've been playing um Graveyard Keeper again. >> Ah,
• 33:11
  >> which is a game that I really love coming out. >> I know. That's what reminded me. I
• 33:15
  really like Graveyard Keeper, so I've been playing that and I have it on my Switch.
• 33:19
  >> Uh and I was >> I think that's a good Switch game. Like a
• 33:22
  >> Well, that's what I thought. >> It's not. >> It's got a lot of performance issues on
• 33:28
  Switch, especially once you start getting later into the game and you've
• 33:30
  got a lot going on. It's not very well optimized. And then I looked up and then
• 33:34
  people said even on um Xbox and PlayStation, it's got a lot of performance issues.
• 33:40
  >> Oh, when you get to that end game sort of >> it's just not very well optimized for
• 33:44
  consoles. So um but that reminded me like, oh yeah, the Switch is
• 33:49
  underpowered. I forget that sometimes. >> Yeah, >> cuz I have been playing a Switch game
• 33:53
  actually. >> Uh what you been playing >> with my daughter? I've been playing
• 33:58
  Yoshi and the mysterious book. Oh, yes. You're saying, >> "Are you still enjoying it?"
• 34:04
  >> Yeah, it's [ __ ] excellent. Yeah. >> See, sometimes I wish that Nintendo
• 34:08
  would share some of their games to other consoles. >> Yeah.
• 34:12
  >> I'd happily play some of them. >> No. Switch to >> No. >> Get it.
• 34:18
  >> I'm I'm thinking about it cuz I could still buy the Legend of Zelda one.
• 34:23
  >> Yeah. It's still somehow on sale here and it looks nice and I do want to play
• 34:30
  it, >> but I know I won't. >> Did I already explain what the game is about last week?
• 34:36
  >> I I don't remember. That was last week.
• 34:40
  >> Okay. It's um I'm just going to change.
• 34:44
  >> Yeah, you do. You go and you you learn learn stuff by licking it and eating it
• 34:49
  or [laughter] something. >> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, you
• 34:53
  find they Yoshi's find this book and then you look in its pages and there's
• 34:58
  creatures in these different locations in the there's like chapters of the book
• 35:02
  are different locations like there's the the mountains and then there's the
• 35:05
  forest and then there's like >> the ocean and whatever and then yeah you
• 35:09
  find animals and then the book's like we must learn more about this creature and
• 35:12
  then you go into the habitat of that creature and you explore things about
• 35:19
  the creature like yeah you you try to eat it and then you like jump on it and
• 35:23
  then you and then like there's one last night we're playing there's this spider
• 35:27
  thing and then you pick the spider up. It goes on your back and then it can
• 35:30
  shoot webs and you can swing around as Yoshi with it and then like you do
• 35:34
  puzzles and stuff. It's great. It's it's >> Are you really good?
• 35:38
  >> Are you finding you don't get to switch handed back to as much these days or are
• 35:42
  you still primary player? >> I'm the primary player. She does like to
• 35:46
  She likes to do the menu bits more than anything else >> really.
• 35:53
  >> Yeah. Yeah. She doesn't like to do She does some Yoshi stuff like Yeah.
• 35:56
  >> She'll ask to do specific things. She'll be like, "Oh, I want to, you know, I
• 35:59
  want to lick that guy or whatever." [laughter] >> Um
• 36:02
  >> but and she's actually pretty good. Like when you give her a controller, she
• 36:07
  played through I might have mentioned this already. There was that Bluey game
• 36:10
  that came out. >> Yes. Um, has she [ __ ] blasted through it in a whole weekend? Blew.
• 36:16
  >> Especially if she didn't 100% it like me. >> Um, no. Wait, did you The new one you
• 36:22
  played? >> Not the new one. I'm waiting for that one. I'm not spending that much money on
• 36:26
  it. >> Blue the video. Blue the video game. She has 100% for sure. She's played through
• 36:30
  that one a bunch of times. That one's more simple than this, though. The new
• 36:34
  one. Um, Blue Game Switch. What the [ __ ] is this game called? Uh, quest for the
• 36:40
  golden quest for the gold pen.
• 36:44
  Um, and it's actually a like a game where you have to do platforming. Well,
• 36:49
  I guess you do a bit of that in the blue video game, but >> not really.
• 36:53
  >> It's rudimentary. [laughter] >> Yeah, >> this is an actual game. And she said she
• 36:58
  like blasted through it and I was watching her play it. I was like, [ __ ] All right.
• 37:02
  >> Quest for a golden pen. >> Yeah, it's good. I I I'm not going to
• 37:07
  spend $60 on it. I can't defy that.
• 37:12
  >> But second, it's on special. >> All right. >> Play the [ __ ] out of it.
• 37:18
  >> Well, anyway. Yeah. So, sometimes I forget and cuz like the Switch 2, I'm
• 37:22
  like, well, you know, if I go to Vermont or if I go away somewhere, I can take a
• 37:25
  bite. I don't usually because I'm doing things when I go. And then also I've got
• 37:32
  my GeForce >> that I could take and I could just
• 37:35
  >> play the Xbox version of it as well. And then I would have the Xbox version here
• 37:39
  which is like technically like at a on a technical level superior. >> Yes.
• 37:44
  >> So yeah. So basically it doesn't matter to me that First Light
• 37:51
  got delayed in the end. >> No, >> it disappointed me when I read it and
• 37:54
  then I was like well I probably wasn't going to play it on Switch anyway.
• 37:58
  >> Yeah. No, you're going to play on something with a bit more power. >> Yes. >> Yep.
• 38:03
  >> Yes. More power. >> Well, what? So, there are two more games
• 38:08
  in here that I'm upset about. >> Okay. >> Especially the Starcraft. So, Starcraft
• 38:14
  announced it far too early. >> Way too [ __ ] early. That's what
• 38:18
  everybody a lot of the comments were like, why are they announcing this now? >> Um
• 38:22
  >> I think it's because they didn't have anything to announce at Blizzcon this year.
• 38:26
  >> Yeah, I was surprised. I was surprised by both of these to be honest because
• 38:30
  they're both quite early. Uh well, let's go through. Okay. Starcraft. Starcraft
• 38:34
  is um an open world shooter. It's not an RTS game, which is >> Yeah.
• 38:39
  >> odd. Uh that you can't tell that from the trailer. I've watched the trailer.
• 38:43
  >> Um so they must have explained this later because they haven't shown any
• 38:46
  gameplay or anything, right? >> Like >> um I doubt they'd be ready for gameplay yet.
• 38:52
  >> It was just a cinematic trailer which was very good. The trailer is very cool. Um,
• 38:59
  but I think yeah, this is just a um it's an open world shooter. It's not an RTS
• 39:05
  game and it's Starcraft. I think that's all we know about it. >> Yeah.
• 39:08
  >> And it's coming out in 2030, >> which as you as you said is a long way away.
• 39:12
  >> It's a long way away. And normally when games get announced this early, the
• 39:15
  other ones that end up being delayed. >> Yeah. Yeah.
• 39:20
  >> Yeah. I'm just watching a trailer now and Yeah. It's just all cinematic.
• 39:24
  doesn't look like >> it reminded me. So I never played a huge
• 39:28
  amount of Starcraft. Played a little bit when we were younger, but watching the trailer,
• 39:31
  >> I was like, "Oh, okay. This is just Starship Troopers."
• 39:35
  >> No, I thought there was gameplay. It's not. It's just >> No, just cinematic. [snorts]
• 39:40
  >> But yeah, it just made me think, "Oh, this is just Starship Troopers." And uh
• 39:44
  >> uh which is fine, but >> people love it though. It's still very competitive game.
• 39:50
  >> Yeah, people still play it, right? The original and Starcraft 2. Yeah. >> Yeah.
• 39:56
  >> Yeah. Okay. So, >> Starcraft. >> Yep. >> Coming. It's coming.
• 40:01
  >> Yep. In four years supposedly. >> Yep. And the other one that surprised me
• 40:06
  only because in my mind Diablo I 4 only just came out. >> Yes.
• 40:11
  >> Which I don't think it did. It's just that my life feels like it.
• 40:15
  >> My life moves very quickly these days. Uh they've announced Diablo 5. >> Yep. and
• 40:20
  >> in 2029 slightly closer >> slightly closer but still yeah I just
• 40:25
  really think they had nothing to go here's this for you and they have they
• 40:30
  have to make an announcement or something >> they got announce something yeah
• 40:34
  >> so let's do stuff to try and keep people excited for years to come
• 40:39
  >> I think Diablo probably would have got a better would have been received better
• 40:42
  than Starcraft though >> because I don't know anyone out there
• 40:45
  asking for a firsterson Starcraft game they probably No, it is it's odd. Yeah.
• 40:51
  >> Uh yeah, I'm surprised they did that. I mean, >> wasn't there like a Starcraft spin-off
• 40:57
  or did I make that up? Starcraft Ghost. Did that actually ever exist or was that
• 41:02
  cancelled? No, it's canceled. Okay. Yeah, I'm remembering that that was a
• 41:08
  thing. Soft goes a canceled military science fiction tactical stealth action video
• 41:13
  game. H >> and I'm looking at the trailer for Diablo. And again, it's just a cinematic
• 41:19
  of >> So, yeah, just an announcement. >> It's not going to make any sense to me
• 41:24
  because I haven't played through Diablo I. I played I played Diablo I. I mean,
• 41:27
  not as much as Elon Musk played it, but uh >> who who has?
• 41:33
  >> I still I still laugh about he had to pay someone to play the game just so he
• 41:37
  could say, "I'm the first at this and I'm the best at it instead of
• 41:41
  >> just playing it." Well, he doesn't have time to do it. Then just don't do it. No one's
• 41:46
  >> Yeah, it's pretty >> forcing you. >> Just play the games for fun. That's what I do.
• 41:51
  >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's weird. Um >> Well, I don't. I play for achievements for sake.
• 41:57
  >> I know. I play games for fun. >> Yes, I try to. I'm playing Dispatch for fun.
• 42:02
  >> Oh, yeah. >> Cuz I'm not looking at guides. I'm just playing it.
• 42:07
  >> Oh, that's new for you. >> Saw some boobies. >> Did you saw some?
• 42:11
  >> Oh, that's how they lured you in. Yeah, that's what got me.
• 42:15
  >> Everything's a big black [ __ ] I get to see at some point as well. [laughter]
• 42:22
  >> All right. All right. Very good. Um,
• 42:28
  slight update on uh something Doctor Who. >> Doctor Who. Yes.
• 42:33
  >> Yes. So, this is something we've sort of been touching on base on and following. So,
• 42:39
  it was sort of cancelled, but then they said, "No, it wasn't." Now,
• 42:43
  >> it's canled in that they've they've canled that run. Like,
• 42:47
  >> they're not, as far as I'm I know that, as far as I know, they're not continuing
• 42:51
  any of the story or anything that was already shut it down
• 42:54
  >> cuz even this article I've got here, it says they're going out for season 16. I
• 42:57
  don't think they're going out for season 16. I think they're going out for >> season one.
• 43:01
  >> Yeah, season one. Give us something new. >> Yeah. So, they've put it out to to
• 43:06
  tender. So, like you can pitch your Doctor Who. So, if you've got something
• 43:11
  you want to pitch, Luke, now's the time. Maybe the only time you get a chance to do this.
• 43:15
  >> I do, but it's got nothing to do with Doctor Who.
• 43:18
  >> That's fine. Pitch it. Maybe they'll like it. >> Pitch my Star Wars Cross with Battle
• 43:22
  Star Galactica. [laughter] Movie or TV show? TV show.
• 43:26
  >> All right. Pitch that for the new season Doctor Who. See what happens. Maybe
• 43:28
  they'll like it. Maybe they'll like it. Maybe they'll be like, "Yes, that is
• 43:31
  what the new season of Doctor Who will be." >> Yeah. But they're they're they're sort
• 43:35
  of saying we could probably see Doctor Who back as early as 20 28. >> Yeah. I mean,
• 43:42
  >> it's out the 10 of this year. Start filming next year. >> Just get going.
• 43:46
  >> That's possible. >> Yeah. >> I'm going to watch the new series of B
• 43:52
  um Doctor Who at some point. >> The more recent one.
• 43:56
  >> Yeah. I got to start season one because I saw the first episode and that was it.
• 44:00
  >> That you go back to Christopher Eckleston. >> Yeah.
• 44:04
  You've got a lot of Doctor Who to watch. >> I do. >> And not all of it is good. [laughter]
• 44:09
  >> A lot of it is good, but not all of it. >> Along like I've seen some things like
• 44:13
  some of the Christmas specials and stuff, but I did start to >> taper off towards the end
• 44:19
  >> for like the last few seasons, and I think that was just over Doctor Who a little bit.
• 44:25
  >> I mean, I watched all of it up until Kapaldi and then I just I don't know. I
• 44:31
  was just like, I think I might be done watching Doctor Who for a while. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.
• 44:35
  >> I think I think this break for it's actually going to be good for it.
• 44:40
  >> It's not much of a break though, is it? >> No, it's really not. >> It sounds like
• 44:44
  >> they they really want this money to start coming back in. >> Yeah.
• 44:49
  >> Yeah. They want people angry about [ __ ] Doctor Who again. >> Yeah.
• 44:52
  >> They're angry about [ __ ] Doctor Who. >> Angry >> Doctor Who. We could talk about
• 44:59
  who people are angry at. >> Uh Buffy the Vampire Slayer news.
• 45:04
  >> Buffy the Vampire Slayer news. >> Yeah. >> News here.
• 45:08
  >> Yeah. Uh well, the first one is kind of funny and I think >> funny and weird.
• 45:14
  >> Yeah. So, as you may have seen, uh witness >> um
• 45:21
  Michelle Sarah Michella and David Borianis were hosting at the Emmys. >> Yep.
• 45:26
  >> Together. And they were, you know, reunited, Buffy and Angel, and they made
• 45:31
  some jokes about it about how Angel said, I always thought,
• 45:35
  >> you know, Buffy and Angel would get together at the end and then >> Yeah.
• 45:39
  >> So Michelle Gella said, well, we'll never get to find out >> because Wow. [laughter]
• 45:44
  >> Yeah. Uh, this is great. Um, and then afterwards apparently when they were
• 45:50
  doing or possibly before, but they're doing red carpet stuff with the
• 45:53
  photographers, the paparazzi, whatever, and the photographers asked them first
• 45:58
  to hold hands. And so they were like, "Okay, [laughter] >> okay."
• 46:00
  >> And they started asking them to kiss. >> And what? >> That's weird. Like
• 46:07
  >> like I get that you want a photo of that, >> but it's not going to happen. Like
• 46:14
  >> Well, maybe. I guess it's >> both married. You can only ask. I suppose
• 46:18
  >> they were together on a show 20 years ago. >> I think it's more than that, isn't it?
• 46:23
  >> It probably is cuz only it's only the first three seasons as well.
• 46:27
  >> Luke, it's got to be 30 years >> because we were teenagers when that show was on.
• 46:32
  >> Oh, >> it's got to be 30 yearsish. >> Buffy Vampire Slayer.
• 46:38
  When did it come out? Oh my god. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They're hosting because it was
• 46:42
  the 30th anniversary of Buffy. It's got to be cuz we're too old.
• 46:48
  >> They wanted to get to kiss.
• 46:53
  >> That [ __ ] has the gull to ask that. It's such a stupid I don't know.
• 46:58
  >> How embarrassing. >> Yeah, I could never imagine.
• 47:01
  >> Kiss her. Kiss her. Like, oh, don't do that. >> Yeah. Grab her on the ass.
• 47:07
  >> Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Touch her up. [laughter] Well, cuz you want a photo.
• 47:14
  >> [ __ ] out. >> Yeah, exactly. [laughter] >> It's just
• 47:20
  I think it's gross. I don't I don't understand.
• 47:24
  >> Tell you what though, he's still they're both still looking great. >> Oh, yeah.
• 47:28
  >> Absolutely. >> Screw to both of them. >> Yeah. Yeah. Good looking people.
• 47:33
  >> David, he's 57. >> Yeah. No, he looks great. I mean, yeah. So does she.
• 47:39
  >> Yeah. And they both done really well for themselves. They both seem fairly
• 47:43
  wholesome, too. Yes. As people. Like I don't I mean, I guess I don't know
• 47:48
  either of them personally, but what I know about them seems like they're not like,
• 47:53
  >> you know, she married um [ __ ] what's his name? Freddy Prince. >> Freddy Prince.
• 47:58
  >> And then he just kind of stopped doing stuff for a long time because he was a parent.
• 48:02
  >> Yeah. Like >> And I don't They just seem like a great
• 48:05
  couple together. Like it just seems >> Yeah. They just I don't know. They just
• 48:08
  seem very normal for like celebrities. Like they obviously they have a weird
• 48:11
  life cuz they're celebrities, but they just seem very down to earth.
• 48:14
  >> But I also think they'll probably >> cuz a lot of people probably think
• 48:18
  they're probably not as rich as people think as well. >> Oh, maybe. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure
• 48:22
  they're fine. >> I'm sure they're fine. I'm not worried
• 48:24
  [laughter] about them, but like with Sarah, like a lot of her stuff was from
• 48:29
  Buffy at the start. Yeah. >> Shows don't pay well.
• 48:33
  >> Yeah. No, but she did movies and stuff. >> She did movies, but then she sort of
• 48:37
  >> she did Cruel Intentions. >> Cruel Intentions. She was in No, you did
• 48:41
  last summer. Was she in Scream movie? >> No. >> No, but then she sort of dropped off doing
• 48:48
  like the big movies, I think. Or maybe I'm remembering wrong, but
• 48:55
  >> yeah. No, >> I still love to have their life.
• 48:57
  >> She is in Scream. She's in Scream, too. I was like, she is in Scream. Yeah.
• 49:04
  >> Oh, that's right. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, it's been a long time since
• 49:08
  I've seen a screen movie. Screen. >> I swear to God that's her in that
• 49:11
  [ __ ] movie. Yeah, it is. >> Uh, and the other thing that people are
• 49:14
  mad about, um, not well, people were mad at them, but I mean, you can't really
• 49:20
  blame them for this because they're just reading what they're told to read. So,
• 49:23
  there was a >> at the Emmys, they usually give a nod to
• 49:28
  those co-stars who have passed on, right? >> And
• 49:34
  they did. They mentioned the fact that it's been a tough week. Sorry. Tough
• 49:38
  year for uh couple years for Buffy people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Tough couple
• 49:42
  years for Buffy people because you know Michelenberg, Nicholas Brendan, and
• 49:47
  >> Anthony Stewart. >> Anthony Stewart. >> Stewart head. >> Tony had all died.
• 49:52
  >> But they didn't name anybody. >> No. >> It's not weird if you think
• 49:59
  >> I can understand why they didn't name one person.
• 50:01
  >> Well, but they can't name two people and not name him. That's I think that's what
• 50:05
  this is. >> And it's not even >> I think that's exactly what this is.
• 50:09
  >> Yeah. And I don't think he didn't recently go off the rails. He's been
• 50:12
  going off the rails for years. >> No, but in this climate it's, you know,
• 50:17
  it would have been a thing had they said >> cuz they would have come out and got Oh,
• 50:21
  they're giving thanks to this person who's >> Nicholas Brendan incredibly Yeah.
• 50:25
  accused of various things including domestic violence of which we know it's
• 50:29
  pretty certain that he >> did because he I don't think he denied
• 50:32
  it or anything. He was he was [ __ ] up. >> Yeah, he >> he had problems.
• 50:37
  >> He was someone who his career after Buffy didn't happen. >> No.
• 50:43
  >> And even if you look at it, people also bring up the fact that his character
• 50:47
  didn't change over the course of Buffy either.
• 50:50
  >> Yeah. Yes. True. But yeah. Yeah. So they
• 50:55
  and then later on they um they had like a re like you know the immemoriam reel
• 51:00
  or whatever where they played a thing and it mentioned >> Anthony head. >> Yes.
• 51:05
  >> But not the others and which is it's it's odd sort of except that he was a
• 51:11
  current actor >> and the others were not like Anthony had
• 51:17
  >> they did they put her on last year maybe. >> Oh I don't know. >> She died last year.
• 51:22
  >> Yeah. I don't know. But but was she active in stuff like
• 51:28
  >> I don't think so. >> No, I think she when she got sick, I think she sort of Yeah.
• 51:32
  >> Yeah. So that's the only thing I can think with that is that like like Tony
• 51:36
  Head was still in stuff. >> Yes. Maybe he's in that still to come out like
• 51:42
  >> like he's in Ted Lasso and he's in movies. He's in he's all all over the
• 51:46
  place and he died very suddenly while still working. So maybe that's
• 51:52
  Nick hasn't been anything for [ __ ] ages. Michelle Trackerberg wasn't in a ditch.
• 51:56
  >> He's been in jail. >> Yeah, he's been in a ditch with his he
• 52:00
  drove his car into that time. Um, but people were mad at so Michelle Geller
• 52:07
  and David Brian is online. They were saying like how could they not mention
• 52:10
  their friends and it's like well they can't. They're just reading the speech
• 52:12
  that's prepared for them and if they've been told >> we can't mention Nicholas Brendan
• 52:18
  because >> yeah, >> you know, it's not a good look.
• 52:20
  >> And then and then Therefore, we can't mention either of any of them.
• 52:23
  >> Then you're actively calling out that you're not mentioning.
• 52:26
  >> Exactly. Yeah. It's notable if you do and it's notable if you don't. So, just
• 52:30
  don't say any names. >> And then it's maybe that'll be all
• 52:33
  right. And apparently that's not all right. It's still got backlash. So,
• 52:37
  >> but then also the internet will be over this in a week. >> They probably already are.
• 52:43
  >> Yeah. >> Yeah. We're the only ones talking about it now. >> Yeah. [laughter]
• 52:46
  >> Because it's of niche interest to us. >> Yes. But yeah, I just think I mean this
• 52:51
  is the probably was the best way to uh yeah to handle it. >> Best way to handle it.
• 52:55
  >> Oh, one was missing from Memorial. So, sorry. Was M was Michelle Trackenberg in
• 53:00
  the in Memorial? Did I mix that up?
• 53:06
  >> On the online one, Nicholas was on there on just the online people to go look. But
• 53:13
  >> but Michelle, I don't know if she was or not. >> It actually doesn't mention. That's
• 53:17
  interesting. But I also think it's because >> she might have died last year and been
• 53:20
  >> she died last year. So >> she died February. >> This only says notably
• 53:26
  um Tony Head was included and Nicholas Brennan was not. >> Yeah. So I think
• 53:32
  >> he wasn't in anything recently. >> He wasn't in. It was like >> you put it up and
• 53:38
  >> oh people would maybe remember maybe remember him. I don't think he looks
• 53:42
  like what he did in the show. >> I don't think he aged very well. He's an
• 53:46
  old photo, but but yes, it's tough because >> Yeah.
• 53:53
  >> Yeah. >> People would be mad if you celebrated him because he turned into a knob.
• 53:59
  >> Yeah. So, yeah. Or always wasn't confirmed, but Spencer pointed out his
• 54:04
  well documented history of legal issues before his death, including arrests for
• 54:08
  involving domestic violence in 2015. He pleaded guilty.
• 54:12
  >> Yeah. They never denied any of it. No, no. You know, which I guess it's good
• 54:17
  that you didn't deny it or anything, but it's not helpful. >> He still did it.
• 54:22
  >> It would be hard for someone like that, though. You're so well known, but you
• 54:25
  can't get a job. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, was he ever was he ever in
• 54:32
  anything, Nicholas? >> It might have been stuff like right at
• 54:36
  the straight after some small stuff maybe. >> Or maybe he was in some stuff. He's in
• 54:42
  what's this? Demon Island. He's in a movie called Demon Island
• 54:46
  with Jamie Presley,
• 54:50
  2002. I want to watch this.
• 54:55
  Demon Island, also known as Pinata Survival Island. [laughter] >> What?
• 55:01
  >> I want to watch this. >> When was he in that?
• 55:05
  >> Oh, a group of teens on a remote island for a scavenger hunt accidentally
• 55:09
  unleash vengeful spirits from a cursed pinata. I need to watch this movie.
• 55:13
  >> I want to watch that. >> I need to watch this. This looks [ __ ] awesome.
• 55:19
  >> Demon Island. >> It's not got good reviews, but that's that's fine.
• 55:24
  >> I wasn't expecting good reviews. >> All right, I'm going to put this in the show notes.
• 55:29
  >> Oh, he's a star. >> Yeah,
• 55:33
  I'm going to watch this. I'm going put it in the show notes. Oh,
• 55:38
  I'll find it. streaming.
• 55:44
  >> Um, >> is it on Tubby? >> You can stream Demon Island on Prime
• 55:50
  Video. >> Yeah, but they might want to sell it to you.
• 55:57
  >> All right. >> Well, I'm going to look for it. Um,
• 56:04
  >> I'll find out right now. Demon eye. No, that's Nicholas Brandon.
• 56:10
  It says I can watch it on Tubby for free. >> I think part of ads, doesn't it?
• 56:16
  >> Yeah. Oh, apparently I'm watching it right now. >> Yeah.
• 56:22
  >> I learned.
• 56:27
  Um, no, we don't have it in Australia, it looks like.
• 56:31
  >> Okay, I'm watching it.
• 56:37
  >> Yeah. How do I pause this? There's actually a ton of horror [snorts] movies
• 56:41
  over here on the right, >> man. Tomy's got a lot of stuff on it.
• 56:47
  >> Wow. >> Okay. Search.
• 56:53
  No. What are you doing stuff? I want to search to see if I can watch it. Hackers
• 56:59
  >> as in the actual good >> as in the actual hackers.
• 57:02
  >> The the greatest uh the greatest movie. >> Yes.
• 57:09
  David Island right there.
• 57:14
  >> Well, we'll try and watch it and I'll report back.
• 57:21
  >> What? >> I'm just Yeah, it's going to be bad. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.
• 57:27
  >> Yeah. >> Um, do you want some science news before we go?
• 57:33
  >> I love What do you mean go? Oh my god, it's already been an hour. I know.
• 57:37
  >> I'd love some science news. >> Do you like dolphins?
• 57:41
  I guess this is aquatic news more than science. >> You're all right. >> Um, there is a
• 57:47
  >> They can be a bit rapey. >> Well, yeah, they can. And then this this
• 57:52
  dolphin uh has gone a little little far as well. There's a dolphin named Bubbles,
• 57:58
  and they uh Bubbles has developed, I
• 58:02
  guess, a new method of of getting food. >> It um
• 58:08
  apparently follows a fish around and stresses it out so much that it
• 58:15
  throws up and then it eats the vomit.
• 58:21
  >> And uh >> yeah, this is a Down at the Great
• 58:25
  Barrier Reef, there's a dolphin there. >> Want to eat living animals. So,
• 58:32
  [laughter] >> it's a vegetarian except one of those other fishy. It is. It's odd, right?
• 58:36
  It's very odd. Um, >> yeah. He's been around since at least
• 58:41
  2017 and regularly harasses local big eye travali, which is a fish. >> Yeah.
• 58:47
  >> Uh, it chases a fish around, stressing it so much the fish throws up what it
• 58:51
  has consumed and then bubbles eats it. eats the the throw up, not the fish,
• 58:56
  >> not the fish. >> And it's uh it's unusual behavior.
• 59:00
  Obviously, it sounds unusual. Uh and they've made done a paper about it. And
• 59:05
  >> yeah,
• 59:10
  >> that's See, what makes this worse is dolphins are meant to be like intelligent. So,
• 59:16
  >> yes. >> Stuff. So, he knows he's >> doing this.
• 59:19
  >> Well, this article actually says that there's a perception I think it might be
• 59:22
  from the white paper, too. Um, there's a perception that dolphins are like the
• 59:25
  good guys of the sea because people think of them as nice. But this person
• 59:28
  says they're not. They're predators. [laughter] They hunt their prey whether it's stolen
• 59:34
  from another species or not. So maybe I don't like dolphins.
• 59:40
  >> Maybe you shouldn't like dolphins. They do kill sharks. I know that
• 59:45
  they poke them in the gills, right? >> I know they like getting hand jobs.
• 59:50
  >> I've heard that story. >> Yep. I'm not sure I believe it, but [laughter]
• 59:57
  yeah, I thought that was really fascinating that this uh dolphin
• 1:00:01
  I don't know, for whatever reason doesn't um eat fish. I mean, it does eat
• 1:00:06
  fish sort of. It just fish that other someone else has already eaten.
• 1:00:09
  >> Eating. It just doesn't want to do Yeah. It just doesn't want to do the killing itself.
• 1:00:14
  >> How did it figure out how did it figure this out?
• 1:00:17
  >> I didn't even know fish could throw up. [laughter]
• 1:00:23
  You've never been out drinking with a fish. [laughter] >> I have not.
• 1:00:29
  >> Well, now maybe now's the time. Except don't go out drinking with bubbles.
• 1:00:33
  >> Oh, maybe do. >> Maybe. >> Easy cleanup. >> Yeah.
• 1:00:38
  >> True. >> I'm never going to swim with dolphin. >> No.
• 1:00:43
  >> No. Don't trust them now. I've been in a net and poked a dolphin
• 1:00:50
  on a boat. I should probably clarify what I mean by that. We wanted a whale
• 1:00:53
  watch thing, dolphin watch thing, and I was >> It would dolphins and I touched you
• 1:00:58
  dolphins. Yep. >> Didn't give it a hand job. I just touched it. >> Yep.
• 1:01:02
  >> Just touched it a little bit. >> Probably would have would have liked a
• 1:01:06
  hand job more than being poked, I guess. >> Just put my finger in his blow hole.
• 1:01:09
  >> Yep. I love that. >> I didn't do that. I didn't I think they
• 1:01:12
  I think they explicitly said don't do that which I was like yeah obviously but
• 1:01:16
  then there were kids. >> Yes. >> To be told >> and there's also creeps.
• 1:01:22
  >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> But sometimes when you tell people not
• 1:01:26
  to do it that's the first thing people are going to do.
• 1:01:28
  >> Oh yeah. Yeah. And then uh done a whale watch as well which I got very sick on.
• 1:01:35
  >> I don't think I've done a whale watch. >> I got seasick.
• 1:01:38
  >> So you got seasick. So sea is the ocean is not for you.
• 1:01:41
  >> The ocean is not for me. No. Well, I don't know. Maybe it's changed. When we
• 1:01:45
  were in Costa Rica, we went on a thing, but like not anywhere near as far out,
• 1:01:49
  but there were whales there as well. I guess maybe the whales get closer in
• 1:01:52
  Costa Rica. I don't know. This we have to go right out in my memory.
• 1:01:57
  >> So maybe it was being not able to see lands as clearly. I >> think threw you off, baby.
• 1:02:02
  >> Yeah. And then the I think it was Nelson Bay and then the waves and the the vomit
• 1:02:07
  was not good. And then this dolphin just kept eating all my body >> eating it. [laughter]
• 1:02:13
  >> And then he went back home to the Gold Coast. >> Yeah. And he was like >> Barrier Reef.
• 1:02:18
  >> Yeah. He's like, I went on a human watch and they [laughter] fed me.
• 1:02:25
  >> All right. >> Well, on that note, >> I'll tell you where there won't be any
• 1:02:30
  eating of vomit, >> and that's the after party. >> It might be vomit one day, but
• 1:02:35
  >> I'm not going to eat it. >> Eat it. No, you can't pay me enough to do that. >> No,
• 1:02:40
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• 1:02:44
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• 1:02:47
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• 1:02:51
  >> Sweeney there's not she's not geek of the week. >> G of the week.
• 1:02:54
  >> No, no, we're talking news. >> Yeah, she's not dead. She's naked, but she's not dead.
• 1:02:58
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• 1:03:03
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• 1:03:08
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• 1:03:11
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• 1:03:16
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• 1:03:20
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• 1:03:24
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• 1:03:28
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• 1:03:34
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• 1:03:37
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• 1:03:41
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• 1:03:46
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