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The Late Debate | 12 November · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Late Gentleman, Welcome to the Late Base.
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  Speaker 2: Reminds me of Boris Johnson when he throws it not
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  Speaker 2: looking at the hoop and he manages to get it in.
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  Speaker 2: If you haven't seen it, look it up online. It
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  Speaker 2: is truly something. Welcome to the program. I'm Caleb Bond
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  Speaker 2: with freyer Leech and Jamie Rodgers. Here's what's coming up tonight. First,
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  Speaker 2: Sydney Sweeney was branded a white supremacist for doing an
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  Speaker 2: ad saying that she had good jeens. Now a fellow
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  Speaker 2: actress is calling her a cretn for playing a lesbian
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  Speaker 2: in a movie without actually being a lesbian. No doubt,
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  Speaker 2: Clint Eastwood will also be in trouble because he's not
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  Speaker 2: actually a cowboy. An extraordinary story in the papers tomorrow
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  Speaker 2: about a woman who received a one hundred and seven
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  Speaker 2: dollar parking fine and managed to turn it into tens
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  Speaker 2: of thousands of dollars in legal fees. We'll tell you
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  Speaker 2: exactly how much he's up for a little later, and
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  Speaker 2: after that will introduce you to the man with the
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  Speaker 2: biggest mouth in the world. And no it's not Kevin Rudd.
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  Speaker 2: But first let's talk about money.
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  Speaker 3: You're a rich girl and you're gone too far because
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  Speaker 3: you know it, don't about it anyway.
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  Speaker 1: You can rely on the old man's money. You can
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  Speaker 1: relive on the old man money.
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  Speaker 2: Increasingly, that seems to be the case because a new
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  Speaker 2: survey done by the University of Newcastle has discovered and
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  Speaker 2: I suppose we kind of knew this was going on
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  Speaker 2: to some degree, but it doesn't cover just how far
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  Speaker 2: this has gone, the fact that parents are now paying
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  Speaker 2: for things for their adult children even further into their lives.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, the biggest thing that came out of this study,
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  Speaker 2: which looked at a whole group of families in Victoria,
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  Speaker 2: and that the parents were all in their fifties and
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  Speaker 2: they all had grown children there over the age of eighteen.
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  Speaker 2: More than half of them, just over half of them
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  Speaker 2: said that they were taking into consideration how they would
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  Speaker 2: support their children financially in their retirement. In other words,
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  Speaker 2: they are planning to long term provide financial support to
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  Speaker 2: their children in some.
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  Speaker 1: Way or another.
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  Speaker 2: Many of the examples that were given in this study,
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  Speaker 2: or that they're paying for renovations to houses, they're paying
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  Speaker 2: for things like health insurance, etc. Not so keen to
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  Speaker 2: pay for luxury items. Fair enough, I suppose they're buying cars.
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  Speaker 1: For their children.
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  Speaker 2: All sorts of things that you might say, okay, might
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  Speaker 2: be acceptable when you're sixteen or seventeen, but parents are
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  Speaker 2: now doing it well into the twenties and are planning
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  Speaker 2: to continue doing it even after they have retired. So
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  Speaker 2: we're talking about children children in their thirties. This is
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  Speaker 2: from the article in the news Court Papers today. One
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  Speaker 2: father said that he used to drive the eldest around
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  Speaker 2: and now I've given her a car to drive around in.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how good's that?
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  Speaker 2: You just annoyed dad to the point where he says, oh, well,
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  Speaker 2: I'll just give you a.
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  Speaker 1: Car to go away. Pretty good deal.
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  Speaker 2: Another quote was parents reflected on how this ongoing support
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  Speaker 2: affected their lives, with one single dad saying it was
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  Speaker 2: quote crap for your romantic life because you just can't
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  Speaker 2: have any to which I'd say, tell your kids to
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  Speaker 2: bugger off, go and live by your own means, stand
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  Speaker 2: on your own two feet. Why does dad have to
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  Speaker 2: forego a romantic life because he's twenty two year old,
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  Speaker 2: won't leave home and expects him to.
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  Speaker 1: Pay for everything. I can't fathom this.
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  Speaker 2: I guess this is happening increasingly certainly not my experience.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to be up and out of there as
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  Speaker 2: soon as I could be. My parents don't pay for anything.
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  Speaker 2: They'd never paid for anything. I mean, I forgot to say.
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  Speaker 2: I had to do even my own ironing when I
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  Speaker 2: was a kid. It was you know, if you want something,
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  Speaker 2: you do it for yourself. You get it for yourself,
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  Speaker 2: you go and earn money for the short period of
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  Speaker 2: time I lived at home before I moved out, and
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  Speaker 2: board something I payd bared. I mean, parents don't even
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  Speaker 2: do that these days. What is going on with the kids?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, well, firstly, you don't have Caleb, so when you
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  Speaker 4: do have kids, then maybe you might have a different perspective. Generally,
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  Speaker 4: people have children because they want to care for them
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  Speaker 4: and love them. And if putting a roof over your
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  Speaker 4: child's head or helping them with basic expenses like a
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  Speaker 4: phone bill or a car is what is going to
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  Speaker 4: help them, then most parents want to do that.
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  Speaker 1: They're adultren the grown children.
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  Speaker 5: But the results these circumstances, so the Productivity Commissions released
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  Speaker 5: a new report which has found jen z Or young
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  Speaker 5: people aged between eighteen and thirty four are in a
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  Speaker 5: worse financial position than previous generations. The big concern for
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  Speaker 5: a lot of these families is downward class mobility. Parents
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  Speaker 5: are looking at their children and going, you are probably
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  Speaker 5: going to have a worse quality of life, worse career prospects,
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  Speaker 5: a harder time accumulating wealth than my generation did. The
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  Speaker 5: least I can do for you is let you live
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  Speaker 5: here for free while you save.
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  Speaker 4: Up enough money to buy a house. And this is
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  Speaker 4: the thing. These our parents' generation Gen X and the
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  Speaker 4: baby Boomers in particular, have accumulated so much wealth in
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  Speaker 4: Australia's property market it is ridiculous. And I'm not saying
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  Speaker 4: that's wrong, It's just a fact. It is extremely hard
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  Speaker 4: for young people to even survive independently in our sluggish economy.
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  Speaker 4: So I think this is the sensible thing to do,
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  Speaker 4: unless you want your kids at thirty moving back in
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  Speaker 4: because they've gone bankrupt.
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  Speaker 1: So your parents paying for them.
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  Speaker 4: They are still paying for my phone plan, but that
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  Speaker 4: is the only thing they're paying for. I'm even paying
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  Speaker 4: for my own health insurance. That was a big debate
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  Speaker 4: with my mom.
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  Speaker 1: Ax.
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  Speaker 5: What about your parents for their step that you'll pay
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  Speaker 5: your own health insurances? I mean, look, I've got two kids.
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  Speaker 5: So you'd like to think that my parents now no
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  Speaker 5: longer paying for me. But fuily enough, Hudson, who's my
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  Speaker 5: eight year old, actually said to me this morning he's
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  Speaker 5: going to be Lebron James and he's going to buy
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  Speaker 5: me a house. We might buck this frend and he
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  Speaker 5: actually looks after me. But you can see in some
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  Speaker 5: of the data. Finder released their first Home by a
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  Speaker 5: report earlier this month, and it showed there that seventeen
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  Speaker 5: percent are now having to tap into that bank of
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  Speaker 5: mum and dad to be able to get onto the
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  Speaker 5: property market, and that's up from eleven percent back in
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  Speaker 5: twenty twenty two. So you can see that people are
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  Speaker 5: needing to use their parents and also how long they're
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  Speaker 5: staying at home. For that fifty four percent of males
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  Speaker 5: are staying home between eighteen and twenty nine, and forty
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  Speaker 5: seven percent of females are staying at home longer as well.
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  Speaker 5: But I think when you've got kids, you want to
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  Speaker 5: be able to help them as much as you possibly can.
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  Speaker 5: And I know with my two boys, I will be
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  Speaker 5: trying to do whatever I can. I mean, I do
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  Speaker 5: make them earn it, you know, if they want a
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  Speaker 5: new app on their iPad. I make them go and
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  Speaker 5: do their seven dollars worth of chores, so at least
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  Speaker 5: they learn what money is and how to actually make
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  Speaker 5: it rather than just being handled it.
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  Speaker 2: But I think it's different if you're say, go and
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  Speaker 2: guaranteur on a loan, because you're not actually giving them
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  Speaker 2: anything and you're not paying for an expense. Otherwise, they've
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  Speaker 2: still got to pay off the mortgage. They've got to
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  Speaker 2: make all the principal payments and pay the interest in whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Mum and dad saying well, look, when we die, you're
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  Speaker 2: going to end up with our assets anyway, so we
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  Speaker 2: may as well let you leverage that asset a little
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  Speaker 2: earlier to get yourself.
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  Speaker 1: On the property latter.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with that. But it's when
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  Speaker 2: you've got grown.
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  Speaker 1: Adults that have their parents paying for.
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  Speaker 2: Things for them, why can't they pay themselves?
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  Speaker 5: But weddings, That's what's in this article, is that parents
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  Speaker 5: save up for their children's weddings. I can understand that
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  Speaker 5: because I would been a rite of passage as a parent.
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  Speaker 2: I would never in a million years dream of asking
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  Speaker 2: my parents to pay for anything.
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  Speaker 1: It's not any.
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  Speaker 6: Dream of asking.
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  Speaker 5: It's often that the parents will offer and say can
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  Speaker 5: I help you with this? Or can we pay for this?
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  Speaker 5: And if you are struggling, you will say okay, but
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  Speaker 5: maybe with your intentions of paying it back, you might
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  Speaker 5: not just take it. I do love in the article though,
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  Speaker 5: that the parents don't pay for the children's take away, though,
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  Speaker 5: but there is a limit, you.
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  Speaker 7: Do bring up. Inheritance is their caleb.
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  Speaker 4: If you're going to inherit this money at some point
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  Speaker 4: in the future, with lifespans the way they're going at
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  Speaker 4: the moment, you're going to be, you know, fifty sixty
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  Speaker 4: by the time you inherit this money, why not pay
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  Speaker 4: it upfront so it'll make much better and more significant
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  Speaker 4: difference when you're trying to establish yourself in your twenties
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  Speaker 4: and their lives.
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  Speaker 5: To see it for one your life, to see your
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  Speaker 5: kids utilize their inherents exactly.
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  Speaker 7: Well, let's move on.
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  Speaker 4: Still on that money theme, though, there is no shortage
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  Speaker 4: of councils in this country that are spending money on
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  Speaker 4: the most ridiculous things. But I think today we may
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  Speaker 4: have found the best one yet. Marribeck Council down in
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  Speaker 4: Victoria is spending forty five thousand dollars on a Pride painting.
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  Speaker 4: They are painting the road with a Pride flag and
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  Speaker 4: that's going to cost them forty five thousand dollars. You
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  Speaker 4: can see that glorious painting there on your screens, but
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  Speaker 4: you might be sitting there thinking going, oh, that is
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  Speaker 4: a lot of money. But it turns out this is
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  Speaker 4: actually the most financially responsible pride painting they could do,
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  Speaker 4: because at another site on another road would have cost
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  Speaker 4: an additional twenty thousand dollars to do a traffic safety assessment.
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  Speaker 4: So I guess the residents of Marybeck should actually be
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  Speaker 4: thanking the council for making this very financially smart move
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  Speaker 4: to build it at this crossing, not the other one.
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  Speaker 4: This time it's only cost them forty five thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 4: But the council responded to criticism very swiftly by saying
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  Speaker 4: this project will create streets and public spaces that encourage
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  Speaker 4: physical activity and socialization amongst local communities, and makes public
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  Speaker 4: spaces feel safe and inclusive of all genders, backgrounds and abilities.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yes, because if there's not a Pride flag painted
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  Speaker 4: on the road all of a sudden, it is highly
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  Speaker 4: dangerous in inner city Melbourne for people of diverse backgrounds.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, give me a break. What does this achieve
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  Speaker 7: and what an utter and comp waste of money.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what it achieves.
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  Speaker 2: It gives you the opportunity to drive your great, big
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  Speaker 2: diesel guzzling veigle over.
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  Speaker 1: The top of the homosexual flag. That's it. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's the opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, I always thought the protocol with flags
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  Speaker 2: was you don't put them on the ground, right. Flags
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  Speaker 2: are never to touch the ground, and they're certainly not
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  Speaker 2: to be stood on or driven over the top of.
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  Speaker 2: So it seems rather odd that if you're trying to
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  Speaker 2: pay homage to some community or a flag, that you'd say, yes,
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  Speaker 2: we'll paint it either on the footpath where people can
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  Speaker 2: tread all over it, will paint it on the road
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  Speaker 2: where people can do skid marks on top of it.
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  Speaker 2: And why do we need to pay forty five grand
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  Speaker 2: for that?
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  Speaker 5: Anyway, that also included community consultation within that forty five
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  Speaker 5: thousand dollar fee, so I've got to add that into it.
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  Speaker 5: But I just feel for forty five thousand dollars that
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  Speaker 5: money could be better served representing that community perhaps in
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  Speaker 5: a different way that actually might go and represent them
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  Speaker 5: other than having a flag painted on the road. And
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  Speaker 5: now with councils, they just seem to have so much
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  Speaker 5: They think they are so much better than what they are.
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  Speaker 5: They need to stick with roads, rates and rubbish.
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  Speaker 6: That is what the council's job is there to do,
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  Speaker 6: which is their rubbish category, and roads too, I suppose.
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  Speaker 5: But forty five thousand dollars. Just think where that money
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  Speaker 5: could have been much better spent. And I just think
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  Speaker 5: it is the most ridiculous story. When I saw that,
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  Speaker 5: I just had to roll my eyes and I thought,
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  Speaker 5: of course, that's also in Melbourne.
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  Speaker 1: We could fill up a few potholes if you're going
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  Speaker 1: to spend it on roads.
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  Speaker 2: Good And what does it actually do. It's like those
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  Speaker 2: you know those signs. They're done up as like street
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  Speaker 2: signs and they say, you know, hashtag racism not welcome.
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  Speaker 2: And I always every time I see one of those signs,
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  Speaker 2: I go, oh, I mean this street was clearly racist
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  Speaker 2: before they put that. Racism has been eliminated because the
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  Speaker 2: council is declared it's not welcome on this street anymore.
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  Speaker 2: It's the same principle painting a gay flag on the road.
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  Speaker 2: What does it mean that every homophobic person in the
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  Speaker 2: Merry Bite Council has now changed their mind because there's
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  Speaker 2: a flag on the red Does.
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  Speaker 5: You feel safe? The wording was it's now safe. So
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  Speaker 5: because that flag is painted on the road, everyone will
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  Speaker 5: feel safer in.
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  Speaker 2: That would seem like a really unsafe place for people
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  Speaker 2: to go and gather, wouldn't it on the road to
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  Speaker 2: get run over?
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  Speaker 5: Well, exactly right, only in Melbourne. Well, let's move on now.
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  Speaker 5: And Sidney Sweeney is making headlines yet again, but this
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  Speaker 5: time it is because Sydney actress in Ruby Rose has
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  Speaker 5: caught her a cretn and it's all because of Sidney
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  Speaker 5: Sweeney's role in an upcoming movie that tanked in the
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  Speaker 5: box office.
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  Speaker 6: We've got the trailer here.
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  Speaker 1: You must be the leader I've been hearings much about. Yes, sir,
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  Speaker 1: tell me about yourself. Jesse here says that you've played
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  Speaker 1: an old pink.
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  Speaker 6: I'm from West Virginia.
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  Speaker 2: What's that got to do with pink?
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  Speaker 1: Nothing, sir, I'm just telling you about myself. Pink was
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  Speaker 1: my dear.
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  Speaker 5: So Ruby Rose had a lot to say about Sidney
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  Speaker 5: Sweeney's performance in this movie, and she said for her
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  Speaker 5: pr to talk about it flopping and saying Sidney Sweeney
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  Speaker 5: did it for the people. None of the people want
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  Speaker 5: to see someone pretending to be us. You're a cretin
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  Speaker 5: and you ruined the film period. Christy deserved better.
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  Speaker 6: Now, what I find.
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  Speaker 5: So bizarre about this entire situation between Ruby Rose calling
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  Speaker 5: out Sidney Sweeney is the whole point of acting not
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  Speaker 5: to be someone else. You go out there, if you
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  Speaker 5: were a good actress or actor, you were out there
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  Speaker 5: representing whatever the character is.
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  Speaker 6: You're not supposed to be yourself.
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  Speaker 5: And Ruby Rose, by her coming out and saying that
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  Speaker 5: because Sidney Sween is not gay, she's not allowed to
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  Speaker 5: represent a lesbian boxer, does that then mean Ruby Rose
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  Speaker 5: is never allowed to play a hetero sexual character.
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  Speaker 6: You look at all of the.
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  Speaker 5: Other past actors and actresses that have had lead roles,
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  Speaker 5: whether they're portraying gay or lesbian. I've got here Tom Hanks,
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  Speaker 5: who played a gay lawyer who had aids Heath Ledger
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  Speaker 5: Broke Back Mountain, which was such a famous movie. Kate Blanchett,
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  Speaker 5: who played a lesbian and is now.
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  Speaker 6: Regarded as a gay icon.
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  Speaker 5: But just to prove my point that you don't have
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  Speaker 5: to be gay to be able to play a gay
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  Speaker 5: person in a movie, it's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's funny you mentioned that because Ruby Rose herself
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  Speaker 4: has been the subject of this very criticism. Back in
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  Speaker 4: two thousand and six, DC Comics would reintroduce Batwoman as
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  Speaker 4: a lesbian jew. Ruby Rose was cast as Batwoman in
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  Speaker 4: twenty nineteen and was criticized for not being lesbian because
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  Speaker 4: she's gender fluid, not lesbian, and not being Jewish. It
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  Speaker 4: got so bad she deactivated her Twitter account because she
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: couldn't cop the hate, and at the time she dismissed
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  Speaker 4: the criticism, going, oh, this is ridiculous, But she is
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  Speaker 4: now doing the exact same thing that was done to
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  Speaker 4: her that she objected to not even six years ago,
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  Speaker 4: and she's doing that to Sydney's I can't help but
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: think this is not actually about acting. This is actually
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  Speaker 4: about her hating Sydney Sweeney. Sidney Sweeney has been outed
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  Speaker 4: as a Republican. She has not apologized for her American
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  Speaker 4: Eagle jeans ad where she said she has good jeens
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  Speaker 4: because she's got blonde hair and blue eyes.
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  Speaker 7: She's refused to bow to.
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  Speaker 4: Be woke mob and this just shows their desperation that
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  Speaker 4: they are resorting to such lows as this and such hypocrites.
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  Speaker 4: I just can't take Ruby Rose seriously and honestly, what
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  Speaker 4: was the last good movie she did?
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  Speaker 7: It's just jealousy.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think there's an element of sar grapes because
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  Speaker 2: she says in this statement that she was originally meant
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  Speaker 2: to be in the FILMG, so you know she's looking.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, the film didn't work, so I don't
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  Speaker 2: know why she thinks maybe the ego and her is
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  Speaker 2: so bid she thinks she would have been able to.
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  Speaker 1: Turn it around.
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  Speaker 2: I mean its first the opening weekend in the box office,
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  Speaker 2: it did one point nine million Australian dollars, which is
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  Speaker 2: apparently like one of the worst opening weekends for a
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  Speaker 2: film ever in the United States. So perhaps people just
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  Speaker 2: really aren't interested in watching films about lesbian boxes. And
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  Speaker 2: when you said about you know, a lesbian Jewish batwoman,
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  Speaker 2: I thought Jesus is a film. I can't be bothered,
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  Speaker 2: what like, what's enticing about that? For Heaven's sake, But
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  Speaker 2: you know, I hate to break it to as I
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  Speaker 2: said at the top.
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  Speaker 1: Of the show, I'm in Clinda east Wood. All those
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  Speaker 1: spaghetti westerns.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: He's not actually a cowboy. It turns out that Rowan
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Atkinson isn't actually some weird mute guy or he played
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: mister bean Seth Myers of course is not Mike Myers,
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: sorry I should say, is not a green ogre who.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Lives in a swamp.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, justice for the green ogres who
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: live in in swamps. And this is the thing is
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: that we can joke about it, but there are actually
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: people in the arts community who seriously believe this stuff,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: and they will push hard for this to become the norm.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: And it's stuff like this that sort of gets the
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: thing going. You create this public backlash and hope it
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: gets somewhere. It won't in this case, is no one
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: to watch the film, but this will not.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Be the last time you will see this.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: I think there was the same discussion when Russell Crowe
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: played Roger Ayles in the series about him and he
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: had to wear a fat suit in order to do it,
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: and said, oh, well, you know, it should be an
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: actual fat man doing that role. And there was some
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: other film where I think that became a thing recently too, Like.
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: It's acting, that's the whole point of it is.
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: You are an actor.
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: You are there to portray, not yourself, and if you're
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: good at it, that's even better.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: And if you date keep it to the point where
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: it is only people who have lived experience in the
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: role role it is not acting. No God forbid they
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: ever make a film about me.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: I'll have to play myself because you know you can't.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: You can't have someone else.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: I have lived experience, and for goodness sake, what is
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: wrong with people? I hope it does something pretty wrong
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: myself for them to make a film about me.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: I suppose will Aaron.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Patterson be able to play herself when they make the
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: films about her? Anyway, Let's go up to queens and
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: shocking story I read today and this fellow I have
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: to say, extremely brave. He's a teacher, or he used
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: to be a teacher in Queensland, and he faced false
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: allegations of impropriety with a student, and he's told his
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: story to the news court papers. Just how badly he
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: was treated through this process. And we know that we
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: have a dire shortage of male teachers in this country.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: We know that men are scared to become teachers because
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: of situations exactly like this, that someone can make a
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: false allegation and it basically ruins your life. And the
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: detail he goes through just how it was done is
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: truly shocking. So that the long and the short of
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: it is that he was stood down and referred to
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: the Integrity Unit a couple of years ago in Queensland
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: for the Education Apartment. A week later, he gets a
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: meeting with the regional office. The only detail they tell
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: him about this allegation is that it involves a student
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: at a separate school two years earlier and for another
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: five months.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: He's not working. That is all he knew about the
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: allegations over him. And you can imagine what that does
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: to someone.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, you have no idea what you're accused of,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: but you can't go to work. You know people are
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: talking about you at work. You know that students are
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: putting rumors around about you. You don't even know what
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: you are alleged to have done. He first got details
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: of it five months later when the police came to
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: interview him as part of their processes, and it wasn't
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: until another five months down the line, two hundred and
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: twenty four days after he was stood down, when he
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: was finally cleared by the police that he was told
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: the entirety of these false allegations that were leveled against him.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: He was clear by the police, and then he was
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: later cleared by the Education department. But in the process
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: of all of this, he went through a hell of
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: a lot.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: He wrote in this piece.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: The psychological toll was immense. Anxiety became my constant companion.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: I developed depression and physical illness tied directly to the stress.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: I would feel sick to my stomach at the thought
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: of stepping foot on school grounds. My marriage did not
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: survive the strain of my suspension, the uncertainty, and my
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: declining mental health proved too much. My relationship ended, leaving
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: me to carry this burden alone while also trying to
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: be a father to my children. The sense of loss
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: went beyond my career. It touched every part of my
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: personal life. I was no longer just a teacher under investigation.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: I became an outcast in my community. This guy has
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: lost everything, He's been assessed as unfit to go to work,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: and yet the Education Department says that they did nothing
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: wrong and that they are fighting against this case at
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: work cover. He's saying he deserves compensation because he can't
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: go back to work on There is no new process
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: here whatsoever. Is it any wonder that men do not
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: want to become teachers when this is the garbage they
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: have been put up.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: It's the most devastating story when you read that and
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: what this gentleman went through, And the sad reality for
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: him is, yes, we know that he's going through the
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: process because he's not fit to teach again, but this
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: stays with you.
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: He will forever. Yes he was cleared, but this stays
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: with you, and people will always.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: Be talking about him and whispers in the school yard
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: or he'll always be watching his back wondering if anything
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: like this will happen again. But the thing that really
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: stood out for me in this story that I found
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: incredibly concerning was the lack of duty of care towards
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: his mental health by Queensland Education. And he said that
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: he was given a counseling number of which he rang
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: and they never called him back to reschedule an appointment,
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: so there was no one there checking in to ensure
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: that he was okay mentally as he was going through
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: this process, or even to have someone to talk to,
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: even though they couldn't talk to him about his charges,
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: but at least about to talk him through what was
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: going on and to be there to help him. And
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: he said as well, there was never a structured plan
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: on how he would ever return to work once he
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: was cleared. He just got the call to say, okay,
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: you're clear, now you can go back to school, as
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: if oh, well you're fine, off you go. So that
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: duty of care I just think is extremely concerning. And
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: this gentleman's life is absolutely ruined. And the sad reality
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: is when false allegations happen, a life is ruined in
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: the process. And unfortunately we're reading about one now.
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and so many. I mean, it's not limited to.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: The Education department in this is an interesting example in
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: the church. In the Anglican Church, they have a similar
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: internal investigations process, and what happens is that these organizations
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: end up becoming.
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: Judge, jury, and executioner.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: And there is basically no legal recourse to stop these proceedings.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: You have absolutely no protections, and you generally also have
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: to front your own legal costs as you go through
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: the process, and good luck ever trying to get those back.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: So it really is horrendous and in a lot of
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: these instances, I understand why.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: These investigations have to occur. I understand why you want
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: to take allegations seriously, but when they are clearly vexatious,
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: when they are baseless, if you don't actually give the
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: accused their legal right to innocence unless proven guilty, this
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: is a sham extra judicial process that violates every single
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: legal principle of the common law. And if it's not
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: appropriate in court, why is it appropriate for some business
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: or some government department that has no accountability and.
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: No oversight to do it. This is unfair.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: These legal principles exist for a reason, and we need
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: to hold these bodies accountable and demand change. Yeah, it's
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: just absolutely ridiculous. But in other news, and something that's
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: a bit more positive than that horrendous story, is that
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: the Liberal Party has finally had their party meeting on
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: whether to abandon net zero. Now you've heard it covered
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: a lot tonight. We don't need to go over all
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: the details again, but just as a quick recap, seventeen
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: MPs voted to keep the target and twenty eight voted against.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: Four were unclear, And here is Dantean speaking just after
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: that meeting talking about what steps are next for the
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Liberal Party.
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: Myself and Susan will formally announce our policy after that
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: meeting tomorrow, so you can all be rest assured that
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: by around midday tomorrow you will very clearly know what
• 24:53
  Speaker 8: our energy and emissions reduction policy is as a Liberal Party.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: This is just a great result for the Liberal Party.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: Since net zero was adopted in this country, household energy
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: prices have gone up by thirty nine percent. We've lost
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: thousands of jobs in heavy industry. The results of this
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: madness are clear and evident across our economy. But something
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: that did stand out to me was how a vote
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: actually went. So Ted O'Brian, the Deputy Liberal Leader also
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Shadow Energy Minister under Peter Dutton, he voted to scrap
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: the target. That was a surprise to me. I didn't
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: see that one coming. And also Alex Hawk, who is
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: notoriously the numbers man for Susan Lee, the person who
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: orchestrated her leadership, and also Scott Morrison's Prime ministership, also
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: voted to scrap it. So I think some people might
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: read into this and say, well, this is a vote
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: against Susan, but it isn't there were key backers of
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: Susan who voted to scrap the target. I think what
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: this really shows is just how depleted the truth left
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: flank of the Liberal Party is. I mean, even people
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: who voted for Susan are voting to scrap the target. So,
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: you know, finally sanity prevails, I guess, And I.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Think there's probably an element of it gives Susan because
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Susan didn't declare her position.
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: Which I have found to be quite interesting.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so having someone like Alex Hawk, who as
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: you say, is well known to be one of her backers,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: to be in the anti nit zero crowd kind of
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: allows her to have a foot in both camps, regardless
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: of what the result was. And so, well, the result
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: is the result, and now Susan Lee will adopt it,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: and that will be the position of the party. And
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: it's interesting obviously Dante and says, you know, we'll go
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: and have our cabinet meeting tomorrow and then we'll come
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: back with our recommendation or our decision. But this is
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: essentially a recommendation from the party room to the cabinet,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: and then the cabinet will come back. And I heard
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Peter Kretlin talking this evening about the possibility that the
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Party room will then have to ratify that again at
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: some point, because it's going backwards and forwards so many times.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: But the basis of this is not there's no pulling.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Out of Paris.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: You're still part of Paris, which means you still have
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: to submit targets of some description. But basically you turn
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: it around from where it currently is, which is renewable
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: number one, cost of energy second to cost of energy first,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: and then will work out the mix and the targets later,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: which I think is probably a fair middle ground.
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: Well, it's the smart way of going about it. We
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: saw recent polling had said one in three Australians what
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: net zero scrapped altogether because of the cost of how
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: it is Literally under the current Albanezi government, it's net zero.
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: At any cost.
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: And as you just mentioned, freyer households are now paying.
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: Let's not forget ALBO promised two hundred and seventy five
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: dollars off your power bill, but they've gone up by
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: eight hundred dollars.
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: Since twenty twenty two. So things need to change.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: And I do recommend any of the viewers to go
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: and read the Page Research Center's report who did the
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: analysis for the NATS, and I've read that and it's
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: a fantastic piece of work and really breaks down why
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: the NATS came to the conclusion that they did so
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: they'll stay in Paris. But also when you look at
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: the Paris Agreement, it doesn't say anything about Australia must
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: get to net zero by twenty fifty. It's by the
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: end of the century, and it's a worldwide target as well,
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: so I think we need to keep that in perspective.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: But the biggest thing here though, is the Liberals need
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: to be very very clear on their messaging. They have
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: not always the best when it comes to selling their
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: messages and how they campaign.
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: On the decision that they come to.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: But I think this is a make or break week
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: for the Liberal Party and once they land on their decision,
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: it is so important that they go out there and
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: explain why, make it very clear, and then use the
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: next two years to just continue to sell themselves on
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: why they are landed on that decision.
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: Well, let's head over to New York.
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: Now, and they're not quite May yet. He won't be
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: until the first of January. But Mom Danny has been
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: called out on social media by one of the New
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: York counts who put out onto x and said, hey,
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: net Yahoo, let's come to New York City. And she's
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: put it out that ma'am Darney had suggested he will
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: arrest net Yahoo if the Jewish leader entered the city
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: while under his tenure.
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: She's also written in this ex.
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: Tweet that the spoil kids who voted for him are
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: going to realize very quickly that'saw on.
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: Mum Danny is nothing but a scam.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: The interesting thing about this is I'd love to see
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: if Netanya Who does accept this invitation, because legally it
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: can't happen anyway. So I just would love to see
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: this all play out, because Mum Danny was quite strong
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: that he was going to be going and arresting Netanya
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: Who if he stepped foot in New York City. But
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: there is a US federal law called the American Services
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: Members Protection Act, which basically means they do not take
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: any restrict rules from the ICC. So basically it's a
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: violation of federal law if Mum Danny uses NYPD to
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: go and arrest Netanyaho in any capacity, So it would
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: be interesting.
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: I think NETNYA, who should go along?
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I suspect I suspect honestly, why would you see Trump
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: and then go via New York to see Trump alone?
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: I mean I think who really wouldn't want to get
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: himself involved in the theatrics of this crap Anyway.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: This counselor isn't a very heavily Jewish population, sure, but I.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Think he goes is not worth my time even getting
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: involved in it, to be perfectly honest, But what she
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: is demonstrating is just the ridiculousness of what Mamdani is
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: talking about. I mean, you can't go around promising to
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: do things that are illegal, and if you do go
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: around promising to do things that are illegal, you deserve
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: to be called out for it. So she's simply saying, well,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: put your money where your mouth is made, Like, if
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: you want to do it, go ahead and do it,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: but you'll get him in the you know what for
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: doing so, could for pointing it out.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: I think this is just wonderful and a great example
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: of how social media can be very well by politicians.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: But there's a reason the US isn't a member of
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: the Rome Statute, which is what creates the ICC and
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: their jurisdiction over your country, and that is as has
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: been very clearly stated by the Trump administration, because they
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: do unfairly go after Israel. They've released an arrest warrant
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: for Netanya who So if Netnya who traveled to countries
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: like the UK or France, they would legally under the
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: Rome Statute have to arrest him. But have they released
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: arrest warrants for any other like world dictator, human rights abuser,
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: anything like that. No, it's just Israel. And so it
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: does point out how hypocritical and I guess really biased
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: these international bodies have become. But part of me really
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: would love to see the showdown ma'm Danni there, especially
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: because he invited him on January one.
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: When ma'm Dani.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: Takes off it, it'd be amazing with his Pali protesters
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: and then just the National Guard comes in and just
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: slams them all.
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: It'd be wonderful.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: It would be I had something you mentioned the UK.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Of course, the big story out of the UK over
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: the last week or so has been the BBC in
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: this dossia that the Telegraph got their hands on that
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: has gone through all manner of bars going on at
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: the BBC. Of course, the biggest one has been that
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: doctored footage of Trump's speech on January sixth for their
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Panorama documentary program that makes it look like he's saying
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: things that he's not actually saying.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Well, would you believe it?
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: The outgoing BBC Director General Tim Davey, who has fallen
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: on his sword because of all of this, he says,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: there is nothing wrong at all.
• 32:36
  Speaker 9: I'm here to lead and support the BBC. I'm very
• 32:38
  Speaker 9: very proud of our join this in this building. They're
• 32:41
  Speaker 9: doing work. I think it's incredibly important. I want to
• 32:43
  Speaker 9: thank every one of them. They're doing a wonderful job.
• 32:46
  Speaker 9: Also everyone across the BBC doing their thing for the bit,
• 32:49
  Speaker 9: the UK and personally I'm here to lead and support them.
• 32:53
  Speaker 9: The BBC's are going to be thriving and I support
• 32:56
  Speaker 9: every one of the team.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: I'm very proud of him.
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: Thank you very much.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Eric. Look at may thrive.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: But that's partly because you are leaving so they might
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: be able to sort out a few problems now, buddy,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: And he's just blind to what has actually been going on.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: He is denying it. I mean, you know, these are
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: the death.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Throws of when someone is being overturned and they say no, no,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: there is nothing wrong. It's actually everyone else who is
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: at fault. I'm not leaving because I've done anything wrong.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: I'm leaving for the good of the organization. Because he
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: went on to say that it was the enemy's quote
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: unquote fault, that all of these stories were coming out,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: that they had a vendetta against the BBC, and that
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: in fact, the BBC was the very best.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Of British society and media.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: I would have thought, given the stuff we've read about,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: you know, you can't produce any story at the BBC
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: that is gender critical in any way. They're doctoring up
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: videos of Donald Trump. I wouldn't have called that the
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: best of Britain myself. And I really think it's down
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  Speaker 2: to enemies that this stuff has come out. It's just
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: that someone simply says, yeah, it's going on.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: Someone has looked at the two speeches and thought, oh,
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: a really key part of Donald Trump's speech has been
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: edited out here for enemies to make it now look
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: like he directly encouraged the riot that happened on January sixth.
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: And I think it's great that Donald Trump is going
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: to go after them and soe for one point five
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: billion dollars Australian equivalent one point five billion dollars and
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: doing it out of Florida too, which they have no
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: caps or limits on things when you go after a
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: defamation case because this year again identity politics things like
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: that sticks.
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: He was donregarded as someone.
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: That had who was fiery, and he was encouraging that riot,
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: and it make people think that he was this horrible
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: person when in fact he was saying, let's go down
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  Speaker 5: there and cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women.
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: The BBC and the ABC too, which I know Kenny
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: has been highlighting very well on his programs. They also
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: docted that speech too. But I think it's great that
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: he's called it out. We've had two head de rolled
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: from the BBC, and that he's now going to sue
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: for defamation.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just the.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: Most outrageous example of blatant's misinformation to actually use the
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: correct misinformation in its correct sense, which I haven't heard
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  Speaker 5: anyone on the left say about this interestingly.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: But good on him, and these people need to be
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: held accountable. But just quickly before we go You'll remember the.
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: US singer songwriter Tisha Hyman who got kicked out of
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: an LA gym for confronting them over the fact that
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: there was a trans person in the woman's bathroom aka
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: a biological male. Well, her crusade for women has continued,
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: and this time she's confronted a Democrat senator.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Have a look, Oh, are you going to protect women?
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Not trans women? Women?
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Women?
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Trans women are talking lemen, lemen, listen, we need to
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  Speaker 1: protect one that's say.
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  Speaker 6: I recon I was a song.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: No they are not, they are men.
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: I was assaulted by mats, So branch.
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  Speaker 2: You need to reconstructed.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: We need to purpose of all women and parties. That's
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: incredibly for Also, no trans women are also realized in
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: this country.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: What a cop out excuse. We need to protect all women,
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: but also trans women. I mean, come on, stand up
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  Speaker 4: for women. And this woman, good on her, she is
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: awesome fighting this fight on our behalf.
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: I agree, go Tish, because we need to have voices
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: out there like that that are campaigning for with female
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: only spaces. We're seeing far too many stories with men
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: in women's prisons and in gyms and in locker rooms.
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: Enough's enough. This has just got to stop.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: It's ridiculous, indeed, and apropos of nothing. The senator's name
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: is mister Wiener. After the break, we'll get into the papers.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: The woman who got one hundred and seven dollars parking
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: fine and then turned into ten of thousands of dollars
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  Speaker 2: in legal.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Fees will tell you her story very shortly.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Let's get stuck into tomorrow's news tonight, starting with the
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Advertiser where they have a cracker story on the front
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: tomorrow exclusive from Darren Shapman Parking Mad reads the headline
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  Speaker 2: a woman who was fined one hundred and seven dollars.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Will get you the paper eventually to have a look
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: at it. There it is one hundred and seven dollars.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: So this woman was fine for double parking, but she's
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: incurred forty six.
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  Speaker 1: Thousand dollars in legal bills.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: After appealing to the highest court in the state and
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  Speaker 2: losing the wild four year battle with Blayford Council's.
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  Speaker 1: Back intervention from the Attorney General, the.
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  Speaker 2: Woman referred to in court records as Mss Maythee, lost
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  Speaker 2: a trial over the twenty twenty one fine in Elizabeth
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  Speaker 2: Magistrate's Court, then won an appeal in the Supreme Court
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  Speaker 2: before the Supreme Court judge was partially over rule by
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  Speaker 2: a panel of judges this year. She said she was
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  Speaker 2: stopped in traffic. Okay, I get the principle of if
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  Speaker 2: you think you've been unfairly fined, you want to take
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  Speaker 2: the counsel on. But surely there is a point. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know how much money this woman has given. It
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  Speaker 2: was in the Elizabeth Magistrate's court and it's the Playford Council.
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  Speaker 2: Anyone who knows anything about Adelaide knows this is a
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  Speaker 2: lower socioeconomic area.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to take a guess. Stab.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Maybe she doesn't have a lot of money, but I
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: don't know she's got forty six grand from somewhere.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Ords you'll have to find it soon. I mean, surely
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: at some point you just go nap. This isn't worth
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  Speaker 1: it anymore.
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  Speaker 6: That's what I kept thinking when I read that.
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: Surely gets to a point where you think, oh, this
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: is a little bit extreme. If you get past just
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: even a couple of hundred dollars, nah, just don't pay
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: the fine.
• 38:47
  Speaker 7: I love someone that stands on principle. I think you're.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: Right, don't back down, keep fighting fight, fight, fight, and
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: eventually you'll lose all your money on the way space.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: If that's the price to mindicate yourself of that one
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  Speaker 4: hundred and seven dollars parking, fine, she's a strong woman, but.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: She hasn't vindicated.
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: That's the problem.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: She's not been vindicated.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: She's launched a hell of a way a home deposit
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: that kind of Oh well, yeah, I can I can
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: think of bitter ways to blow forty six thousand dollars
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: extra dear.
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: Well, let's go over now to the Herald Sun and
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: in gang Buster live sentences for adults who lure kids
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: to commit violent crimes in government's fresh crackdown. So gang
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: leaders recruiting kids to commit violent crimes will face life
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: sentences under the latest crackdown by the Allen government. The
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: pledge comes just one day after just Into Allan announced
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: radical reforms that could land teenagers as young as fourteen
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: in jail for life for aggravated crimes. The major overhaul
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: follows the Herald signs eight months Suburbs under Siege campaign.
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: This one is an interesting one, guys, because I think
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: there's been a bit of interesting common around this that
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: the legislation hasn't actually been written. So Vacinta Allen was
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: out there very tough, very strong about this, but the
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: legislation isn't actually there.
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  Speaker 2: And look, I think it shows just how desperate she
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  Speaker 2: is now.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, after all this time of not.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Doing a great deal and just sort of, you know,
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: acting reflexively or you know, someone gets to take with
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: the machete. We'll get the machete bins, We'll have the
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: machete ban has taken no steps effort whatsoever to try
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: and prevent anything happening before it happens. It is now,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: you should note, exactly a year from the next state election,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: and she's starting to come out with this stuff.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: I think she sniffed the wind.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: And her whole thing today in her press conference was
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: that her neighbors got broken into and stabbed.
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: And it's kind of like, well, yeah, I mean that's
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: what a lot of Victorians have been living with for years.
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: Now.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: It's nice that you finally care and have had a
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: personal experience and now you want to do something about it,
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: like you know, too little, too late.
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: There's one other article that I want to draw your
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: attention to on the front page of the Herald Sun,
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: and this is regarding a spy threat here now, China
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: could crash Australia's financial, telecommunications and utility systems in a
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: high impact sabotage event using its elite teams of state
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: backed hackers. The nation's domestic spy chief warned at a
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: forum in Melbourne yesterday. I mean this has been spoken
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: about extensively.
• 41:30
  Speaker 7: Me.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: How yeah, I can say to that, you know that's
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: that's that's where we're at, and that's how wars will
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: be fought. Now. It won't be with guns or to
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: lease a degree with with guns and ammo.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: It'll be you bring down.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: A nation's telecommunications or power networks and bang, you can
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: do what you want.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: Well, thank goodness, the Chinese aren't in our five g
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: Oh wait, but we've got all these Chinese spy devices
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: driving around our roads all the time and next to
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: our military basis. But don't worry about that, guys. We're
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: totally fine. This is just or when are people going
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: to wake up? But in the Australian tomorrow, the headline
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: is secret docs reveal alleged plot to stitch up Reynolds
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: over Higgins. A secret cachet of documents has lifted the
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: lid on the Albanezy government's maneuvering to award Britney Higgins
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: two point four million dollars in a settlement that ensured
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: former Liberal Minister Linda Reynolds would be unable to defend
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: herself against the former staff. As claims in one letter,
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: the Commonwealth's lawyers, purportedly acting on Miss Reynolds's behalf after
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: forcibly taking control of her defense, effectively give Miss Higgins
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: an extension of time to commence her claim, which Miss
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: Reynolds allegers was against her instructions and done without telling her.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: Another letter reveals that miss higgins lawyers then provided the
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: Commonwealth with new claims against Miss Reynolds and an increased
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: quantum proposed for settlement, none of which the former said
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: was told about. I mean, this case is just getting
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: worse and worse. And the idea that you would have lawyers,
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: let's just take a step back, not even referring to
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: this case specifically, but the idea that you would have
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: lawyers apparently acting.
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: On your behalf, not informing you of key aspects of
• 43:18
  Speaker 7: the case. I mean, it's just bizarre.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: There are serious questions for the Albanezy government to answer
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: now I think, I mean, we know that what was
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: said about Linda Reynolds was false. The court has found that,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: and it's on the basis of a lot of this
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: stuff that that payment was made. And now we learn
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: this This is a big story.
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it really is.
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: As more and more and more things coming out about it,
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: I think there's still more to come.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: To on the front hold of the Daily Telegraph. Tomorrow,
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: cleaning up their act, Mum and Dad. Developers will have
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: their DA waketime slash from an average of one hundred
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: days to just twenty as part of sweeping planning reforms
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: by Chris Min's government that will supercharge housing supply. Major
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: reforms first advocated for in the Daily Telegraph will expand
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: the number of das deemed compliant and look like I
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: have no issue with it going from hundred days to
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: twenty days. Efficiency in the public service, I think is
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: always a good thing. But I am somewhat worried about
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: more das becoming compliant because, of course, what you're basically saying.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Is we just got to get the houses.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Let's just shove them in, shove them in, get it
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: going one hundred miles an hour and that's how you
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: end up with bad development. I think we've got to
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: be careful doing this stuff.
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: Yes, because that's the big question for me is how
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: this is going to be able to be dropped down
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: so quickly from one hundred days down to twenty. What
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: they're going to be doing through the process is to
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: ensure exactly to your point, that we're not being left
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: with some dodgy builds.
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: Let's have a look at the Mercury.
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: There's a bizarre story on the front page here Body
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: Parts investigation. Allegations human body parts were retained without lawful
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: authority or consent have been referred for possible prossecution as
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: the government tries to identify who was responsible. In a
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: finding handed down in September, Simon Cooper found pathologists unlawfully
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: provided specimens from autopsies to Hobart's are A rod out
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: Museum of Pathology from nineteen sixty to the nineteen seventies.
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: It appears at this stage that now dead forensic pathologist
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: doctor Royal Cummings was the person who provided the large
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: majority of coronial specimens to the museum.
• 45:25
  Speaker 7: This is so strange.
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: So what I'm gathering from this is some doctor was
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: chopping up parts and sending it to the museum.
• 45:36
  Speaker 7: That there's just plain weird.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean, can you imagine if, like you
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: thought the body had being donated for science or something.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming that's what we're talking about here, and bits
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: just sort of get sent.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Off to go into some museum.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Look, I suspect this may well end up costing them
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: anomenal league. After the breaker, Ariana Grunde Singer, I don't know,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: she used to be attractive.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: She's gone all wacko now, But.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Now she's saying that Oz is in the Wizard of
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Oz is gay.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: And always has been. Born that cabin up.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: Curious little story out of the United States about a
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: runner who was facing prison for running in the wrong place.
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a bizarre story in and gets even
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: more bizarre the further you go into it. So in
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: the US, there was a trail runner who was trying
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: to conquer one of the tallest mountains in America. It's
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: twenty one kilometers up. He did it in just under
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: three hours, but on his way back down, he took
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: a quick little shortcut through a different part of the
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: track to avoid hikers. Now at the end he did
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: tell everyone this is the way that I went to
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: make sure that everyone knew the complete track. Turns out
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: that part of the mountain had been closed. They wanted
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: to make sure that it was due to erosion of
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: the landscape. So this trail runner was then facing a
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: five thousand dollar fine per banned from that area, jail
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: time until President Donald Trump gave him a pardon. And
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: he even said this trail runner wrote it and said,
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: a bizarre situation that has now ended.
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: Up even more crazy.
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: But I have been pardoned by the president. Oh you
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: know what Trump is. The reason he's so successful is
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: he's a man of.
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: The people and he knows what the people want.
• 47:24
  Speaker 7: Pardon the runner. That's brutal.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: I don't think Trump would know his way around the
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: trail run.
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he could go on a few runs with our
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: runner over here.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 47:33
  Speaker 7: In other news, also in.
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: The US, Ariana Grande is starring in the new Wicked
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: and this was just the plane whack moment on the
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: red carpet when they were talking about how Wicked is
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: just so gay.
• 47:48
  Speaker 6: Do you have a message for the Clear fans who
• 47:50
  Speaker 6: are watching this. We love you, we love you, we
• 47:53
  Speaker 6: love you.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: We love you. We love you, we love you.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: In Hants it has always been a queer place, the same place.
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: Every difficult, a green boom where everybody can you read
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: the L.
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: Frank Bomb books. It's the truth. You're saying on us,
• 48:04
  Speaker 6: we love you so much that the gayer the better.
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: Do you have a message to the gulfy starts? Oh,
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: we love you too, love you too.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Where is that camera?
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: The gaya the better?
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: Well, there was something very strange going on with those
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: two on the red carpet.
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: What has happened to Ariana Grande? Honestly, that's what I
• 48:23
  Speaker 7: want to know.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: It's lost the plot. I did actually look this stuff
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: up today.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: There's all these people written extensively about how they think
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Oz is queer and gay, and they read into all
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: sorts of things about it's actually a story about she's
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: coming out when she goes.
• 48:39
  Speaker 6: Oh, that's a very interesting looking at it.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: It looks like when I was in English at school
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: and you had to like read in everything to the f.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Degree before we go.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: The man with the biggest mouth in the world, as
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: I said, it's not Kevin Rudd. It's a bloke from Minnesota.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: He's twenty years old.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: And you can see here it's come up again because
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: he went to this burger restaurant and he can fit
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: an entire burger in his mouth.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: He's got the world record for the largest gate of
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: his mouth, which is ten point one nine six centimeters.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: It's like one of those things at the amusement park
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: where you throw the ball in it approach.
• 49:20
  Speaker 7: How does that work?
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: By a jaw must unlock.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: He can need a burger in one shot.
• 49:26
  Speaker 9: Good on him.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Thanks for watching redepanding show up.