Latest / Investor Exchange / Unveiling Shangri-La's 2024 Financial Intricacies
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- 0:02Time for another Investor Exchange podcast. Here are your hosts, Matt and Sally.
- 0:07Ever notice how some places just kind of give you that vibe?
- 0:10Like luxury and history all rolled into one. I'm talking about those top tier hotels.
- 0:15But let me tell you, behind all that glitz and glamour, there's a whole lot
- 0:19of financial wheeling and dealing going on.
- 0:21And today, we're going to take a deep dive into one of the big players in that
- 0:25world, Shangri-La Asia Limited. Absolutely.
- 0:29Now, they're incorporated over in Bermuda, their stock code 00069,
- 0:33and they just released the 2024 final results.
- 0:37So we're going to unpack all of that for you today.
- 0:39Yeah, we're going to get into the nitty gritty of their financial performance
- 0:42for the year ending December 31st, 2024.
- 0:45See how it stacks up against their 2023 numbers. We've got their official report
- 0:49right here, and we're not just going to focus on the numbers themselves.
- 0:51We want to understand the why, the how, why did they perform the way they did,
- 0:54and what's their outlook?
- 0:55What do they see coming down the road? Now, for you, the listener,
- 0:58we know you're busy, right? You want the insights. You want to understand this stuff.
- 1:02But you don't want to be drowning in a sea of spreadsheets.
- 1:05So think of us as your guides, your Sherpas through this financial mountain
- 1:08range, leading you straight to the peaks, the key takeaways you need.
- 1:11So let's kick things off with the big one, the headline figure, overall revenue.
- 1:15So the report shows that Shingula actually saw their consolidated revenue edge
- 1:20up a bit in 2024, up by 2%, to be exact, reaching USD $2,185.4 million.
- 1:27At first glance, that kind of hints at things moving in the right direction,
- 1:31right? Yeah, yeah, it does.
- 1:32But this is where things get a little more, well, let's just say interesting, shall we?
- 1:37They also talk about their effective share of revenue. That takes into account
- 1:41their ownership stakes in other companies.
- 1:42And that number actually went down by 4.2%, landing at USD 2,653.6 million.
- 1:49So we've got these two numbers, both about revenue, but painting slightly different
- 1:53pictures. What's going on there? Okay, so the report is pretty upfront about this.
- 1:56The main culprit here is a, and I'm quoting them here, sharp 73.9% decline in
- 2:02property development for sale revenue. Oh, wow.
- 2:05Yeah, we're talking a significant drop from USD 185.5 million in 2023,
- 2:11all the way down to USD 48.5 million in 2024.
- 2:15Now, for those listening, this is a big takeaway. While their core hotel business,
- 2:20the bread and butter, saw some growth, their property development side took a real hit.
- 2:24This could indicate a few things, maybe a shift in their overall strategy or
- 2:28some headwinds in that specific market segment. It's worth keeping an eye on.
- 2:32Yeah, that's a pretty stark contrast.
- 2:34Okay, so let's see how all this impacted their profitability.
- 2:37What did the report have to say about their EBITDA?
- 2:39And for those not familiar with the term, EBITDA gives us a look at their operating
- 2:43profitability before things like interest and taxes are factored in.
- 2:47It's a good way to assess their core earnings power. Well, we see a similar
- 2:49story with EBITDA as we did with revenue.
- 2:51For the company and its subsidiaries, EBITDA decreased by 3.5%,
- 2:55coming in at USD $503.9 million.
- 2:58And just like with revenue, their effective share of EBITDA,
- 3:01that broader view, took a bigger hit, flipping by 13% to USD $760.1 million.
- 3:06Okay, so it seems like that property development slump is making its presence
- 3:09felt on the bottom line too, huh? Absolutely.
- 3:12Their effective share of EBITDA from property development for sale,
- 3:15that plummeted like dramatically.
- 3:18An 87.9% reduction to be exact, falling from USD 97.9 million to a mere USD 11.8 million.
- 3:26But that's not the whole story. They also point to the normalization of operating
- 3:30expenses in our hotel operations segment.
- 3:32That played a role too. What does that mean, normalization? Well,
- 3:36it suggests that some of the cost savings they likely saw during the pandemic,
- 3:39maybe reduced staffing or scaled back services, those weren't sustainable in the long run.
- 3:43So 2024 saw those expenses creeping back up.
- 3:46So kind of a double whammy there, much less profit from selling properties and
- 3:49costs going up in their hotel operations.
- 3:51All right, let's move on to the actual profit attributable to the owners,
- 3:55the shareholders. What's the story there?
- 3:57Profit from operating items took a hit, decreased by 10.2%, landing at USD 115.9 million.
- 4:04However, and this is interesting, the report highlights that this impact was
- 4:07significantly mitigated by tax savings.
- 4:10How did that happen? Well, because of those lower profits in property development,
- 4:13their overall tax bill was lower. It's like an unexpected silver lining, right?
- 4:18They also got a boost from favorable net exchange gains of USD $13.3 million at the corporate level.
- 4:24That's a positive swing compared to the net exchange losses they saw in the previous year.
- 4:29Ah, so some financial maneuvering and external factors helps soften the blow
- 4:33a bit. But what about the big picture for the owners?
- 4:36Okay, overall profit attributable to owners, that's still decreased by 12.3%
- 4:40to USD $161.4 million. This also reflects a USD 9.6 million year-on-year decrease
- 4:48in net gains from non-operating items.
- 4:50So while those tax breaks and exchange rate gains helped, it wasn't enough to
- 4:55completely offset the profit declines.
- 4:57Right, so a mixed bag at the top level. Revenue growth, but some serious challenges
- 5:00in profitability, especially in that property development segment.
- 5:03Okay, let's break it down further, see how their different business segments performed.
- 5:07The report mentions four main ones. Right. So you've got hotel properties.
- 5:11That's their core business, developing, owning and running hotels.
- 5:14Then there's hotel management and related services where they manage hotels
- 5:18for themselves and for other owners.
- 5:20Next up is investment properties, which includes things like office buildings,
- 5:24commercial spaces, those service departments they rent out.
- 5:27And finally, we've got that property development for sales segment we've been
- 5:30talking about. All right. Let's start with the heart and soul hotel properties.
- 5:34What kind of year do they have in 2024? So on a consolidated basis,
- 5:38just looking at the hotels they fully own and operate, revenue for hotel properties
- 5:42inched up by 0.9%, reaching USD $1,944 million.
- 5:48But here's where things get really fascinating. When you look closer,
- 5:52there are some big regional differences, and those are really telling.
- 5:55Like what? Well, Hong Kong, they saw healthy growth 5.8%. The Philippines,
- 6:00they jumped by a whopping 16%.
- 6:02The report specifically calls out business recoveries for the growth in Hong
- 6:06Kong, and the reopening of the Makati Shangri-La is a big driver in the Philippines.
- 6:11Yeah, that makes sense, with travel coming back in so many parts of the world.
- 6:14But we're all regions on that upswing. Not exactly. They actually saw revenue
- 6:18dip in mainland China, down 6.7 percent.
- 6:21Singapore, a slight decrease, 1.5 percent.
- 6:24And the UK, down 0.8 percent. So a real mixed bag depending on where their hotels are.
- 6:29Right. And what about those key performance indicators we always hear about
- 6:32with hotels? Things like occupancy rates and REVPR.
- 6:35Right. REVPR, that's revenue per available room. It gives you a sense of how
- 6:40efficiently they're filling those rooms and what kind of pricing power they have.
- 6:43Exactly. Okay, on an unconsolidated basis, so now we're looking at all the hotels
- 6:47they have a stake in, not just the ones they fully own and operate,
- 6:50overall occupancy ticked up slightly to 63%, up from 62% the year before.
- 6:56REVPR, however, stayed flat, USD 108. So they're filling more rooms,
- 7:01but they're not necessarily squeezing more revenue out of each room.
- 7:03Okay, so getting more heads in beds, but maybe not charging more per bed.
- 7:07Let's dive into those regional insights you mentioned.
- 7:10Hong Kong, you said, was a bright spot. Yeah, definitely.
- 7:13Hong Kong had a strong recovery. Occupancy hit 80 percent and ref pair was up by a healthy 8 percent.
- 7:20They attribute this to a surge in travel from mainland China and the full reopening
- 7:24of the island Shangri-La really shows the power of those key travel markets.
- 7:29What about mainland China?
- 7:30They saw a revenue dip in their hotel properties there, right?
- 7:33Yeah. And here's the thing.
- 7:34Even though occupancy in mainland China overall went up a bit,
- 7:38their ref pay actually went down by 4 percent.
- 7:41And get this, the report highlights that tier three and four cities got hit even harder.
- 7:46Ref pair down 14 percent there. That could indicate different recovery rates
- 7:50in different parts of China.
- 7:51Something to consider when we're thinking about their future performance in
- 7:54that massive market. Right. Interesting. And Singapore.
- 7:56They also saw a revenue dip in hotel properties.
- 7:59Yeah, Singapore, pretty stable occupancy, flat year over year.
- 8:03But they did see a little decrease in ref pay, which they think is due to increased competition.
- 8:08More hotels popping up, fighting for those guests. Makes sense.
- 8:12Malaysia, though, they had positive revenue growth in hotel properties,
- 8:15right? What was driving that?
- 8:17Yeah, Malaysia, strong recovery there. Ref Payar up by 11%. They point to an
- 8:22increase in flights, especially from mainland China, as a key factor.
- 8:26Again, that direct link between travel and hotel performance.
- 8:30That gives a really clear picture of how their hotel property segment did.
- 8:33Some clear winners and losers, depending on location.
- 8:36Let's move on to hotel management and related services. How'd that part of the business perform?
- 8:41So this segment saw net revenue increase by 3.6% to USD $98.2 million,
- 8:47and they highlighted some new managed hotels coming online,
- 8:50including the JN Kunming in mainland China, where they own a 45% stake,
- 8:54as well as the Shangri-La Nanshan in Shenzhen and Shangri-La Phnom Penh.
- 8:58Both of those are managed for
- 8:59other owners, so they're definitely growing their management portfolio.
- 9:02So not just relying on their own hotels, but expanding by managing properties for others, too.
- 9:07How'd those managed hotels perform overall? Okay, so overall,
- 9:10the weighted average occupancy for their managed hotels, that increased slightly,
- 9:15but REFPAR decreased by 2%.
- 9:16However, their gross revenue for this segment, that jumped significantly by
- 9:2115.2%, reaching USD 258.4 million.
- 9:25So while profitability per room might be down a tad, the scale of their management
- 9:30operations is definitely expanding. Makes sense.
- 9:33Moving on to investment properties, this is where they're generating revenue
- 9:36from those office and commercial spaces, right? Exactly.
- 9:39And this segment saw a pretty impressive increase in consolidated revenue,
- 9:43up by 16.2%, hitting USD $125.8 million. Okay. What was driving that growth?
- 9:50They specifically mention strong performance in Mongolia, both increased rent
- 9:54and almost full occupancy there.
- 9:56Sri Lanka did well, too, also with increased rent and occupancy,
- 9:59probably reflecting the country's economic upswing.
- 10:02And they got a boost from the newly opened Shangri-La Center in Fuzo.
- 10:06So some definite wins in that portfolio. Were all their investment properties
- 10:09doing that well, though?
- 10:10They did mention a slight revenue dip from their investment properties in Malaysia.
- 10:14But overall, that segment was a strong performer, definitely helping to offset
- 10:18some of the challenges they faced elsewhere.
- 10:21Right. And finally, let's come back to property development for sale,
- 10:23the segment that really impacted their overall numbers.
- 10:27Yeah. So revenue here, it actually jumped by a big percentage,
- 10:3043.8%, reaching USD 2.3 million.
- 10:34But remember, we talked about this earlier, this is coming off a very low base
- 10:37because of some sales in Sri Lanka. It's still way lower than the previous year.
- 10:42So big percentage gain, but the actual contribution is still small,
- 10:46which is why it had that negative impact on their overall revenue and EBITDA.
- 10:50Right, right. Okay, so we've gone through the numbers for each segment.
- 10:53Now, the big question, the one I know you're thinking about,
- 10:55listener, why these particular financial results in 2024?
- 11:00What were the big wins, the big challenges? What shaped their performance?
- 11:04That's the million-dollar question, isn't it? On the positive side,
- 11:07they definitely benefited from that travel rebound in several key regions.
- 11:12Hong Kong, the Philippines, Malaysia, and even further afield in Japan, Australia, France.
- 11:18Their investment properties in Mongolia and Sri Lanka, those performed really well.
- 11:22And their hotel management and related services with those new contracts,
- 11:26that was definitely a plus.
- 11:27What about their costs? Do they mention anything about how they manage those?
- 11:30Yeah, they highlighted effective cost management in some areas.
- 11:34They mentioned their interest costs were well contained.
- 11:37They also made a smart move refinancing some of their debt in Renminbi,
- 11:41which helped reduce their overall borrowing costs and manage those currency
- 11:45risks, especially given their large presence in China.
- 11:48And importantly, they achieved record high free cash flow, which they attribute
- 11:52to solid performance in their property operations and a more disciplined approach
- 11:57to spending on new projects.
- 11:59That healthy cash flow, that's a really positive sign for the company.
- 12:02So good news on the efficiency and financial management front.
- 12:06Now, what about the challenges?
- 12:07All right. So on the flip side, that slowdown in the mainland China hotel market
- 12:11in the latter half of 2024, that was a major headwind for them,
- 12:15especially considering how much they rely on that market.
- 12:17They also faced increased competition, more hotels, more pressure on pricing
- 12:22in key markets like Singapore and London.
- 12:25And then, of course, there's that significant decline in revenue and profitability
- 12:29from property development for sale.
- 12:32That was a big one. And those rising operating expenses in hotel operations, right? Exactly.
- 12:36The normalization of those expenses after that period of lower costs during
- 12:40the pandemic, that put a dent in their hotel profitability.
- 12:43They also had to recognize some impairment losses on some of their hotel assets
- 12:47in mainland China and the Maldives, basically a reassessment of their value.
- 12:51And lastly, their net gains from non-operating items decreased compared to the
- 12:56previous year, which also contributed to the overall profit decline.
- 13:00Okay, so a mix of external market forces, some internal challenges within specific
- 13:05segments, and some accounting adjustments, all playing a role in shaping their 2024 performance.
- 13:12So looking ahead, what's next for Shangri-La? What's their outlook?
- 13:16And what are they doing strategically to position themselves for the future?
- 13:19Well, despite the dip in overall profit, they really emphasize that record high
- 13:24free cash flow of USD $273 million. We talked about that.
- 13:28They've also declared a full year dividend of HK $0.15 per share,
- 13:33keeping it at the same level as last year.
- 13:35So that suggests they're feeling pretty confident about their financial strength
- 13:38and committed to returning value to those shareholders. And those panda bonds they issued.
- 13:43How do those fit into their plans going forward? Yeah, that was a pretty big strategic move.
- 13:47It lets them tap into that huge capital market in mainland China,
- 13:50giving them a new source of funding.
- 13:51And importantly, it helps them better align their assets and liabilities,
- 13:55since a big chunk of their operations are in China and generate renminbi revenue.
- 13:59This reduces their exposure to those currency swings and could potentially lower
- 14:04their borrowing costs over time. Smart move.
- 14:06What about strategic projects and initiatives? Are they looking at expanding
- 14:10into new areas or upgrading their existing properties? Oh, definitely.
- 14:14They're all about enhancing their existing portfolio. They've got those themed
- 14:17rooms at the island Shangri-La in Hong Kong, new food and beverage concepts like the Ming Pavilion.
- 14:24Their dual brand strategy, like with JN Kunming and the upcoming Shangri-La
- 14:28Kunming, that aims to appeal to a wider range of travelers.
- 14:32The opening of that Ba Hyunhui shopping mall in Fuzhou that shows they're moving
- 14:36towards these more integrated hospitality and retail experiences.
- 14:39They're also growing through managed contracts like in Shenzhen and Phan Pen.
- 14:44And they've got plans to revamp existing properties like the Shangri-La Hangzhou
- 14:48and to apply that dual brand concept to the traders and Shangri-La Hangkyo hotels.
- 14:53So a lot of balls in the air adapting to the changing market.
- 14:56Sounds like a pretty comprehensive approach.
- 14:57What's their overall focus as they look ahead? The report really stresses this.
- 15:01They're going to keep a tight rein on costs, keep pushing to improve that bottom
- 15:05line, and generate strong cash flow.
- 15:07And they're being very selective about new projects, making sure those investments
- 15:10are going to deliver real value, no more risky bets.
- 15:14Let's talk about their overall financial health. The report dives into their
- 15:17corporate debt and financial condition a bit. Yeah.
- 15:20They've made significant progress in reducing their net borrowings,
- 15:23down by a hefty USD $296.3 million to a total of USD $4,421.3 million.
- 15:32That's mostly due to that strong cash flow we talked about and some capital
- 15:35returns from their associate companies.
- 15:37Their gearing ratio, which measures how much debt they're using to finance their
- 15:40assets, also decreased from 86.3% to a more manageable 81.3%.
- 15:45That's a good sign. Definitely.
- 15:47And they've also secured those big bank loan agreements for refinancing about
- 15:51USD $1,784 million with a clear preference for renminbi financing.
- 15:56They really highlight the benefits of that.
- 15:59Diversifying their funding sources, potentially getting lower borrowing costs,
- 16:02and creating a better match between their assets and their liabilities in China.
- 16:05Just makes good financial sense.
- 16:07And you mentioned sustainability-linked in green loans earlier,
- 16:10right? Seems like those are becoming more and more common. Absolutely.
- 16:13They've got about USD 4.2 billion in those types of loans.
- 16:18Basically, some of their borrowing costs are tied to how well they perform on
- 16:22environmental and social responsibility targets.
- 16:25Good for their image and potentially good for their bottom line if they hit those targets.
- 16:30And here's a key point. The report states they have enough cash on hand and
- 16:34available credit to cover their refinancing needs for the next two years all
- 16:37the way through the end of 2026.
- 16:39They also say they've met all the terms of their existing loan agreements.
- 16:43Their adjusted total equity is a solid USD $9.1 billion with an indebtedness
- 16:48ratio of 71%. It's a pretty solid financial foundation, all things considered.
- 16:53Of course, the value of their properties is a big part of that financial picture.
- 16:57How do they handle those valuations? And were there any big changes in 2024?
- 17:01Their investment properties are valued at fair value, and they review those
- 17:04valuations every six months to make sure they're up to date.
- 17:07In 2024, they recorded a net gain of USD $74.9 million from those properties,
- 17:13so some appreciation in value there.
- 17:14But they did have to recognize an impairment loss of USD $51.8 million for three
- 17:19hotels in the Maldives and mainland China.
- 17:22However, this was partially offset by a reversal of a USD 5.8 million impairment
- 17:27loss for a hotel in Japan.
- 17:29So it shows that those values can fluctuate depending on market conditions and
- 17:33how well individual properties are performing.
- 17:35And lastly, the dividend recommendation, always important for investors. Right.
- 17:39The board has recommended a final dividend of HK 10 cents per share.
- 17:43Add that to the interim dividend paid out earlier. And the total dividend for
- 17:462024 is HK 15 cents per share, same as 2023. That consistent payout,
- 17:52that's a signal of stability for those shareholders.
- 17:54So to wrap up this deep dive into Shangri-La's 2024 financials,
- 17:58it's been a year of ups and downs, right?
- 18:01Overall revenue growth, which is good, but profitability took a hit,
- 18:05mostly due to that downturn in property development and rising operating costs in their hotels.
- 18:10Yeah. But they also saw some wins, like that travel recovery in key regions
- 18:15and the strong performance of their investment properties.
- 18:17What I think is really interesting to consider for you listening is how these
- 18:22regional differences and their financial decisions, particularly that shift
- 18:25towards Renminbi financing, how that's all going to play out in the future.
- 18:28It raises a big question.
- 18:30What do you think are the biggest opportunities and the toughest challenges
- 18:34facing Shangri-La as they navigate this global hospitality landscape?
- 18:38Maybe digging into that full report yourself will give you some more food for
- 18:42thought on how all these pieces fit together. Definitely something to ponder.
- 18:45Well, thanks for joining us on this deep dive into Shangri-La Asia's 2024 financial
- 18:49results. We'll see you next time.
- 18:53Music.