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Patriots Unfiltered 7/24: Training Camp Day 1 Live Show and Key Takeaways · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 4: Pat all right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. We are live
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  Speaker 4: with a special edition of our show from training camp
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  Speaker 4: here at Jillette Stadium. We are high above the practice fields, myself,
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  Speaker 4: Fred Kursh, Paul Parrillo, Evan Lazar, Mike du So, Tamara Brown,
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  Speaker 4: and we'll be here for the duration of practice today
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  Speaker 4: with a special guest after the show that we'll get live.
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  Speaker 4: So it's a full slate. Can't wait. Fans are trickling
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  Speaker 4: in here at Jillette Stadium. I can say that city
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  Speaker 4: So was the first player out in the field, but
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  Speaker 4: players are now coming out from the locker room to
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  Speaker 4: the field. So we're getting ready to practice here. Practice
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  Speaker 4: should start approximately eleven o'clock. And she could see Paul, Evan,
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  Speaker 4: Mike Tamara all here ready to go.
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  Speaker 5: Fired up.
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  Speaker 6: You feel so far away. Fred, I'm like, hey, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I know. It was exciting me and Tamara just came
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  Speaker 6: from down on the fields. A lot of Patriots Unfiltered
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  Speaker 6: listeners down there, including one name.
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  Speaker 5: I believe it's Linda.
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  Speaker 6: Was Linda who drove all the way from Georgia to
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  Speaker 6: come to camp today and to uh not only meet us,
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  Speaker 6: but apparently Alex Barth too. She took a picture of
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  Speaker 6: a selfie with Barth, so you know she catched twenty
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  Speaker 6: two fans. She's a Patriots Unfiltered fans, so it was
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  Speaker 6: cool too. That's a hardcore. It's hardcore like that, she
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  Speaker 6: told me. She told me she even sent a question
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  Speaker 6: into Catch twenty two. When they read it, very exciting
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  Speaker 6: for them day. So they're excited. Fans are excited and
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  Speaker 6: uh making dreams come true, making dreams come dream maker
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  Speaker 6: Evan Lazar and Alex Barth.
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  Speaker 5: So she drove from Georgia from I.
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  Speaker 6: Couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it. So they're excited.
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  Speaker 7: She told Alex that she wanted to take a picture
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  Speaker 7: with me, but settled for hours and I was cool
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  Speaker 7: with that.
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  Speaker 4: We can see in the fielders Gerd Mayo. We saw
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  Speaker 4: some snippets of Drake may just prior to this, so
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  Speaker 4: everybody's out there full from what we're told, everyone's here.
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  Speaker 4: There's no one missing other than if you're on a list.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, and we should mention those guys that are, you know,
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  Speaker 8: set to open camp. On lists that the team put
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  Speaker 8: out last night, four players on PUP, they would be
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  Speaker 8: Kendrick Bourne, Cole Strange. No surprises there, Seoni Taki Taki,
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  Speaker 8: and Jake Andrews. Those two guys we didn't see much
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  Speaker 8: of during the spring, so clearly they're dealing with some
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  Speaker 8: physical limitations. Also on NFI, Antonio Gibson, so that's one
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  Speaker 8: to sort of keep an eye on. That running back
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  Speaker 8: spot guys is a little thin, so he would be
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  Speaker 8: one of the two guys along with Ramandra Stevenson obviously
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  Speaker 8: that you'd be relying on.
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  Speaker 9: So I don't know if there's anything long term.
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  Speaker 8: I didn't see any reports about him this morning, but
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  Speaker 8: that's one to sort of worry about.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Mayo seemed to indicate we just came Girod Mayo's
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  Speaker 7: press car. I did came from Girod Mayo's press conference,
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  Speaker 7: and he didn't seem too concerned about Antonio Gibson. He
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  Speaker 7: was asked if there was any worry about a long
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  Speaker 7: term absence, and he said, no, not at all.
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  Speaker 9: That's good. Good to hear, Tamara.
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  Speaker 10: I was wondering, you know, we said everyone's here and
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  Speaker 10: everyone's in attendance, but when it comes to jude On
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  Speaker 10: in Godshaw, do you think this is going to be
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  Speaker 10: a situation where they're here and not participating or do
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  Speaker 10: you think that they're going to be full go while
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  Speaker 10: their contracts are possibly.
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  Speaker 4: I see jude On out there, he's got his red
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  Speaker 4: shirt on. He sprinted, He sprinted after the field.
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  Speaker 8: He did the same thing he was doing last year,
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  Speaker 8: which made me think exactly the way Jamara just indicated.
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  Speaker 8: Gerad did say that he expects everybody to practice. I
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  Speaker 8: think that there's probably a different definition depending on the individual,
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  Speaker 8: you know observer.
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  Speaker 6: It's gonna be hard to tell today because it's exactly
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  Speaker 6: not going to be a lot of you know, team
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  Speaker 6: Maybe it'll get a little competitive at the end and
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  Speaker 6: maybe those guys won't be involved, but I'm expecting just
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  Speaker 6: a lot of tune up kind of stuff carry over
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  Speaker 6: from you know, mini camp and just starting to ramp
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  Speaker 6: back up. It's not going to be you know, a
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  Speaker 6: crazy competitive period. I do hope Paul probably in the
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  Speaker 6: red zone. Maybe perhaps maybe some some fades, I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: No red zone, no red zone.
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  Speaker 10: No.
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  Speaker 7: The MAHO also said that they're gonna start.
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  Speaker 6: They're gonna fifty yard line.
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  Speaker 7: They're going to start in the in the open field
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  Speaker 7: with early downs just this portion of camp. No, So
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  Speaker 7: they're not going to start in red zone like Bill
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  Speaker 7: typically would. But there are some things that he said
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  Speaker 7: that they will carry over. You know, if you fall, start,
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  Speaker 7: you run a lap. You know, if you fumble, you
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  Speaker 7: run a lap. You know, those types of things will continue.
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  Speaker 7: But Justina Anderson had to report this morning that Matthew
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  Speaker 7: Junon's not expected to hold in. He's going to participate
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  Speaker 7: in practices, and that drives with what he said in
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  Speaker 7: the spring where he was critical of himself last year
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  Speaker 7: and said that he got a little caught up in
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  Speaker 7: the contract stuff last year and that's not him and
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  Speaker 7: he's a football player, and he actually called it trash
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  Speaker 7: what he did last year by holding in. So I'm
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  Speaker 7: actually expecting him to participate now at what level might
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  Speaker 7: just be he's thirty one years old coming off and
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  Speaker 7: in injury. We're not going to throw them out there
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  Speaker 7: for one hundred percent of the practice naps, so we'll
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  Speaker 7: see what that means.
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  Speaker 4: He's gonna have to take off his shirt and show
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  Speaker 4: his numbers because right now he's the only one not
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  Speaker 4: wearing a jersey.
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  Speaker 11: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: He's playing catch with the fans as he likes to
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  Speaker 4: do before practice at before games, So he's conducting that
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  Speaker 4: ritual right now. But he is wearing a red sweatshirt
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  Speaker 4: and he's gonna have to take that off if he's
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  Speaker 4: gonna participate in some of the drills.
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  Speaker 5: So we'll see.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe happened the whole practice throwing throwing balls to the crowd.
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  Speaker 6: That'd be funny.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, But a lot of guys coming out right now.
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  Speaker 4: I see David Andrews, the Captain, Hunter Henry walking out,
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  Speaker 4: everyone wearing those Guardian caps.
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  Speaker 5: Over the helmets. I don't know if that's a requirement,
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  Speaker 5: but they're all wearing them.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it is.
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  Speaker 7: It is a requirement in practice to wear them for
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  Speaker 7: certain position groups. If you're going to be a position
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  Speaker 7: group that is going to be well in these practices,
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  Speaker 7: not contacting people, but in engagements of that sort, then
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  Speaker 7: it is required. I don't think it's required for let's
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  Speaker 7: say the quarterbacks, because they're in red non contact or
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  Speaker 7: the kicker or whatever. But for linemen, you know, things
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  Speaker 7: like that, that they are required.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I've kind of gotten used to them now. It
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  Speaker 6: was so jarring the first training camp that everybody had
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  Speaker 6: them on, and now it's just kind of become second
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  Speaker 6: nature to me. I'm just glad the quarterbacks don't have
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  Speaker 6: to wear them. That might be look that might still
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  Speaker 6: jar me.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, all right, So what are we looking for today?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, again, it's just helmets, not even shells, so
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  Speaker 4: it's gonna be you know, low speed or.
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  Speaker 5: Something like that.
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  Speaker 10: I was going to say, the first thing I'm looking
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  Speaker 10: at is reps. And I know that drod Mao keeps
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  Speaker 10: saying don't pay attention to the order that they go in,
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  Speaker 10: how many reps they get, et cetera. But I'd be
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  Speaker 10: interested to see, carrying over from mandatory mini camp, how
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  Speaker 10: the reps are split today between the quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you can't help it, you can't help but look
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  Speaker 6: at that stuff. But i'd say, some of the guys
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  Speaker 6: that you know didn't end up on PUP, but we're
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  Speaker 6: having some off season injury issues. Julani to Buy, you know,
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  Speaker 6: eisting Gonzalez just you know, are all those guys, fully healthy,
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  Speaker 6: full participants, you know, do they seem like they're ready
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  Speaker 6: to go. That's another thing to kind of watch. Hopefully
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  Speaker 6: there might be a little bit of competition at the end.
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  Speaker 6: But I just think it's interesting what Evan said that
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  Speaker 6: Girot had relayed about starting in the middle of the
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  Speaker 6: field because the last couple of years when they started
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  Speaker 6: in the red zone, it was hard. They couldn't get
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  Speaker 6: any kind of like momentum going, They couldn't really string
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  Speaker 6: plays together offensively, it was you know, all right, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: nice fade to Devonte Parker. Otherwise bunch of incompletions and
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  Speaker 6: it looked disjointed. So, you know, maybe part of the
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  Speaker 6: thinking there is, let's not make it so hard right
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  Speaker 6: out of the gate. Let's allow some space so that
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  Speaker 6: our offense can make some plays and can start to
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  Speaker 6: string together and feel good about themselves and start to
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  Speaker 6: build confidence before we take them down to the red
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  Speaker 6: zone and really make things hard on them.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean makes sense.
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  Speaker 4: Things are a little bit different, as we talked about yesterday,
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  Speaker 4: practices starting around eleven, which is a departure from the
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  Speaker 4: past where it was nine or nine thirty. Gerard wants
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  Speaker 4: to have meetings in the morning and then take those
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  Speaker 4: learnings right onto the field. So there's different ways of
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  Speaker 4: doing it, different philosophies. He could change that up midway
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  Speaker 4: through training camp. I think he's he's very flexible that way.
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  Speaker 4: This morning, he during his press conference, he was talking
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  Speaker 4: about all the different ways that he likes to learn things.
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  Speaker 6: And they're not.
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  Speaker 4: Always from other football sources. Sometimes they're from other businesses.
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  Speaker 4: Sometimes they're from teacher teachers. He's part of that masterclass
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  Speaker 4: thing on the internet that a lot of people sign
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  Speaker 4: up for.
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  Speaker 5: So he takes in information from a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Of different ways and and really, you know, he's he's
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  Speaker 4: an open book when it comes to how he's going
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  Speaker 4: to do things.
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  Speaker 5: This is his first year, and uh, he's.
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  Speaker 4: Learning too, and he's going to find out what works
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  Speaker 4: for not only him but for the team, and he
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  Speaker 4: will adjust as he goes along.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, he seems fully cognizant that there's gonna be mistakes,
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  Speaker 6: you know. I mean, then a couple of his press conferences,
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  Speaker 6: you know, he says, I think he was talking about
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  Speaker 6: Evan ross sin or so you know, it's like, look,
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  Speaker 6: I'm the one who has to decide everything so I
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  Speaker 6: think he's aware that that right now, and this goes
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  Speaker 6: for kind of everybody across the board. It's you know,
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  Speaker 6: they haven't really had any I don't say controversy, but
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  Speaker 6: it's just it hasn't gotten hard yet. Like this is
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  Speaker 6: all like, hey, we put a new team together, we've
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  Speaker 6: got a rookie quarterback, we've got you know, new offensive coaches,
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  Speaker 6: We've you know, do have some leftovers on defense that
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  Speaker 6: should hopefully still form a core. But I think everybody
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  Speaker 6: understands that things start to get hard now. And you know,
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  Speaker 6: we saw the last couple of years with the offense struggling,
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  Speaker 6: and you know, David Andrews getting up there and you
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  Speaker 6: could see the look on his face of just how
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  Speaker 6: much they were struggling. I don't think it's I hope
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  Speaker 6: it's not going to be that hard for them, or
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  Speaker 6: that you know that they don't seem that dejected. But
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  Speaker 6: I think everybody knows right now is when it all starts,
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  Speaker 6: and this is when things start to happen. Competition, injuries,
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  Speaker 6: guys emerging, and and you know, I think everybody's excited
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  Speaker 6: for that, but but fully aware that that this is
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  Speaker 6: when it gets hard.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you mentioned Deuce and Evan that they're
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  Speaker 4: going to start in the middle of the field, not
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  Speaker 4: go for the red zone, not go for like high
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  Speaker 4: pressure type of plays with a small field. And maybe
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  Speaker 4: that's what you're talking about. Maybe he just wants to
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  Speaker 4: have that early success and build on that. But then again,
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  Speaker 4: if the offense is doing well, that means the defense isn't,
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  Speaker 4: So there's always the trade off there, right.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I mean and interesting too, it's like it doesn't
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  Speaker 6: it make it harder on the defense when you're in
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  Speaker 6: the middle of field, like.
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  Speaker 5: The lower round to cover And absolutely no.
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  Speaker 6: I mean not to read too much into it, but
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  Speaker 6: you know, especially when you're talking about what's free safety
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  Speaker 6: look like, you know, that's not really a concern when
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  Speaker 6: the defense right now is playing in the red zone
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  Speaker 6: because they got twenty five strong safeties and linebackers and
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  Speaker 6: they can you know, play a bunch of different combinations.
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  Speaker 6: But you know, once they're in the middle of the field,
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  Speaker 6: you might get a real sense of how they're going
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  Speaker 6: to play, you know, early downs, that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 6: We've talked a lot about Jalen Hawkins this offseason. Is
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  Speaker 6: he in the mix here especially early on and definitely
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  Speaker 6: one player that I'm watching to see if if he emerges.
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  Speaker 4: So yesterday, Girod Mayo was very clear in saying that
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  Speaker 4: Jacoby Brissett is the starter starting quarterback right now, and
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  Speaker 4: you know, you look for little clues. The quarterbacks are
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  Speaker 4: practicing the snaps with centers, and Jacoby Brissett's with David Andrews,
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  Speaker 4: so that would fall in line with what uh Gerard said.
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  Speaker 5: Drake may is with I think he's with Mafi. I
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  Speaker 5: think Mafi's snapping to him.
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  Speaker 10: But.
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  Speaker 5: Yes it is. Yeah, so you know that that makes
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  Speaker 5: sense that and and we'll look for those little clues
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  Speaker 5: throughout camp to see if any of that is changing.
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  Speaker 6: Nick Leverett fit snapping to Joe Milton.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, so Jake Andrews is on p P Mafi right
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  Speaker 7: now is probably your your backup center at this point
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  Speaker 7: in time, So Drake may would be with the backup
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  Speaker 7: center and then Joe Milton is with Leverett.
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  Speaker 6: Kind of surprised we haven't seen Charles turn around. That mean,
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  Speaker 6: he's an undrafted rookie, but he was a you know,
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  Speaker 6: a pure center at LSU.
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  Speaker 8: Uh.
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  Speaker 6: His coaches spoke highly of him, and you know, his
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  Speaker 6: chances is an undrafted rookie to maybe make a team,
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  Speaker 6: but so far it doesn't really look he's getting many
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  Speaker 6: looks at center. He's pretty much been at guard, I believe.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, in terms of just the atmosphere, everything looks great.
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  Speaker 5: It's all set up for the fans. Uh, fans are
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  Speaker 5: trickling in.
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  Speaker 4: It's It wasn't the mad rush that we've seen during
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  Speaker 4: the dynasty years.
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  Speaker 9: Very disappointed. No running of the jersey.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know, listen, I think you know, to
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  Speaker 4: compare now to back then is pointless.
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  Speaker 5: We're not there anymore.
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  Speaker 10: I would also point to today's weather, Fred, when I
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  Speaker 10: looked at it until eighty percent chance of rain, I
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  Speaker 10: can't say that I would be running out to see
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  Speaker 10: guys in T shirts and helmets like they're not even
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  Speaker 10: actually doing much of anything today. So I think I
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  Speaker 10: would rather wait until it's sunny and maybe they have
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  Speaker 10: pads on to come out to practice.
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  Speaker 5: Good point.
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  Speaker 6: Or you would just hope that fans also understand that
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  Speaker 6: the first day it's exciting to be here, for sure,
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  Speaker 6: but if you're going to come out here and watch
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  Speaker 6: a practice, you're probably next week you're going to see
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  Speaker 6: a little bit more action, probably, right, but you know
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  Speaker 6: there's still I mean, I just think it's a great day.
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  Speaker 6: Get this close to to the to the peak players.
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  Speaker 6: You know, this is the first chance that all the
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  Speaker 6: fans are getting to see Drake May. So we had
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  Speaker 6: a chance a few times this spring see him, and
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  Speaker 6: you know, it's just you can see why he was
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  Speaker 6: a third overall pick.
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  Speaker 4: I think there's something to be said as a fan
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  Speaker 4: to say, hey, I was there for Drake May's first
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  Speaker 4: training camp practice.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, but I will say this is an unusual weather
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  Speaker 10: day for the first day of training camp. I feel
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  Speaker 10: like it's usually like it's cold.
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  Speaker 6: I'm cold, but I'm still sweating.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I need to throw would get someone get blankets.
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  Speaker 10: I wouldn't say I'm cold bread and I feel like
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  Speaker 10: the fluoridian in me I should be saying I'm cold. Yeah,
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  Speaker 10: but I feel like it's just weird. It's not sunny
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  Speaker 10: and you know ninety two.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we might get some rain in about fifteen twenty
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  Speaker 4: minutes according to the radar, but no lightning. So there's
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  Speaker 4: no really feared today of you know, the players having
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  Speaker 4: to go into the bubble, which is what they do
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  Speaker 4: when lightnings in the area. So we'll have a full
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  Speaker 4: practice outdoors.
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  Speaker 6: That's these like waste innovations fieldhouse threads.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, current the waste wind innovation.
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  Speaker 7: Lines of talking about. Is today, you know, not really
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  Speaker 7: the most exciting day because they're not in pads. Gerard
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  Speaker 7: actually said they're not going to be in pads until
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  Speaker 7: this time next week. He said seven days, seven days
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  Speaker 7: until they get into pads. So league requirement is five
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  Speaker 7: so they're not exactly following that, but he yeah, he
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  Speaker 7: said that seven days is the plan right now to
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  Speaker 7: be in pad. So I don't think they're gonna be
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  Speaker 7: padded practices until Tuesday or Wednesday of next week.
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  Speaker 5: How do we feel about that?
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  Speaker 6: I'll tell you once we see the actual padded practices,
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  Speaker 6: because I felt like even when we got to padded
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  Speaker 6: practices the last couple of years, they were kind of
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  Speaker 6: you know, even then kind of felt dial back to me.
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  Speaker 6: There was no more kind of goal line. That stuff
• 14:39
  Speaker 6: was gone. So I don't know, I mean, once we
• 14:41
  Speaker 6: get there, if they're pretty intense and it feels like
• 14:43
  Speaker 6: I mean, we talk about what he said yesterday, there's
• 14:45
  Speaker 6: gonna be some shorter practices. We're only really expecting to
• 14:48
  Speaker 6: go till about twelve thirty to day an hour and
• 14:50
  Speaker 6: a half.
• 14:50
  Speaker 10: I'm interested with his coaching style just because I feel
• 14:54
  Speaker 10: like a lot of it is being implemented from as
• 14:57
  Speaker 10: the guys like to say, he's a player's coach. So
• 14:59
  Speaker 10: I'm wondering if maybe he's waiting those extra two days
• 15:02
  Speaker 10: because as a player, or maybe he's heard from his
• 15:04
  Speaker 10: players that they need those extra two days their body
• 15:07
  Speaker 10: meets the break. So I'm wondering if a lot of
• 15:09
  Speaker 10: that has to do with he's been on both sides
• 15:11
  Speaker 10: of it.
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 15:12
  Speaker 8: I'm with you, Fred I can stand in your voice.
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't care for.
• 15:18
  Speaker 8: It, and especially like to me, I kind of like
• 15:22
  Speaker 8: the idea of shorter, more intense practices. Yeah, this seems
• 15:26
  Speaker 8: like neither. It seems like it's a shorter, less intense.
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: Is this what the Eagles are doing with Sirianni?
• 15:31
  Speaker 8: Yeah, And that's something that Mike and I talked about
• 15:33
  Speaker 8: off air. Mike, we don't talk about everything on the AID.
• 15:36
  Speaker 8: You know, when we were down in Philly a couple
• 15:38
  Speaker 8: of years ago for those joint practices, it was kind
• 15:41
  Speaker 8: of jarring how much shorter the practices were. The joint
• 15:44
  Speaker 8: practices with Sirianni in his first year. And I know
• 15:48
  Speaker 8: that we're doing joint practices again with Philadelphia. So obviously
• 15:52
  Speaker 8: girod Mayo's okay with that set up because they know
• 15:54
  Speaker 8: what they're getting into. Gerard was on that staffa it
• 15:57
  Speaker 8: was only a couple of years ago. So I do
• 16:00
  Speaker 8: think that when he mentioned that yesterday about you know,
• 16:03
  Speaker 8: fluctuating and having a you know, sort of reading the room,
• 16:07
  Speaker 8: you know, for lack of a better term, when he
• 16:09
  Speaker 8: thinks the players need to, you know, get a little
• 16:13
  Speaker 8: time off. It might be an hour and a half practice,
• 16:15
  Speaker 8: It might be an hour and forty five minutes. Conversely,
• 16:17
  Speaker 8: it might need might be a two hours fifteen minutes. Yeah,
• 16:20
  Speaker 8: you know, maybe a little longer.
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: So I'm all for adjusting on the go.
• 16:23
  Speaker 8: I like that, say, yeah, not being in pads when
• 16:27
  Speaker 8: it can be in pads, right.
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: You know, And that's something you know tomorrow you're going
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: to interview a player after right after practice. It might
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: be Dietrich Wide or Pop Douglas, I think one of
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: the two. But one of the questions maybe you can
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: ask them is how do you know, how do you
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: get ready for pads? Like is there something that you
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: can do while you're still in shells to get your
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: body ready for that first day in pads, you know,
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: And and is that something you know you're look forward
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: to and all that.
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: I'm sure they do, but mentally and.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: Physically, how do you how do you get yourself ready
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: for pads when it's it's going to be you know,
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: a week before you do that.
• 17:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, and just you know, starting in the middle
• 17:11
  Speaker 7: of the field and then no pads for a week.
• 17:14
  Speaker 7: It just kind of counterintuitive to me because the whole
• 17:18
  Speaker 7: part of this offense is having the run game take hold,
• 17:21
  Speaker 7: to have it all merry up together and all these things.
• 17:24
  Speaker 7: And they haven't really worked on run game because they
• 17:26
  Speaker 7: haven't been in pads. So yeah, you can go through
• 17:28
  Speaker 7: the motions of getting into your blocks and things like that,
• 17:30
  Speaker 7: but it's not the same as actually hitting somebody.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: It's like, you know, it's hockey training camp, but we're
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: not gonna be on skates for a week, you know.
• 17:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and we'll see, you know, how it all unfolds.
• 17:41
  Speaker 8: Because I think Mike makes a good point. If all
• 17:44
  Speaker 8: of a sudden, next Tuesday or Wednesday, a banger and
• 17:47
  Speaker 8: you know, they're really cracking skulls. You know, maybe say,
• 17:51
  Speaker 8: all right, while he was he was giving them up
• 17:52
  Speaker 8: a little extra give them a little extra time. I
• 17:55
  Speaker 8: would look at that make more sense. Yeah, to sort
• 17:58
  Speaker 8: of gradually work to Fred's point, like, how do you
• 18:00
  Speaker 8: get ready to be in pads? Like, wouldn't you make
• 18:02
  Speaker 8: more sense to gradually get the pads on, start hitting
• 18:06
  Speaker 8: right and then work up to goal line maybe on
• 18:08
  Speaker 8: day two or three in pads.
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, excuse just as a linebacker's former linebacker, you feel
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: like he might be kind of itching to get the
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: pads on because that's probably where the most quality work
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: came for him.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: And now here we are complaining.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: But for all we know, they're starting late with pads
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: so they can have more pads together down the road,
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
• 18:28
  Speaker 9: When we're not around.
• 18:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah right, yeah, maybe, yeah, I just again, starting in
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: the middle of the field signals to me how they
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: are aware how important early downs is going to be
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: for this offense. They're gonna have to be a lot
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: more successful. And we talk so much about third down,
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: red zone because those are the stats that we extrapolate
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: the most when we look at offenses, but first and
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: second down, especially first down nowadays is really turning into
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: the most important down in football. So in order to
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: get ready for that, starting in the middle of the field.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: And I think, I think to couple with that, I
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: think it's symbolic that this offense is really starting from scratch.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: So there's no sense in going into the red zone
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: if we can't get to the red zone. So let's
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: let's start from the ground floor. Let's make sure we
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: can get those early downs looking good so that we're
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: in third and manageable and we're not third and long,
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: and we can we can have successful drives.
• 19:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not overly concerned where they start. I know
• 19:26
  Speaker 8: that Bill liked to start there because that's the most
• 19:29
  Speaker 8: important area on the on the field for both sides
• 19:32
  Speaker 8: of the ball. Those are where games are won and lost.
• 19:35
  Speaker 8: Is generally who wins in the red zone, and you
• 19:38
  Speaker 8: need more practice there. I mean, I understand why Bill
• 19:41
  Speaker 8: did it that way. You know, it doesn't mean you
• 19:43
  Speaker 8: have to do it that no. I mean, I'm sure
• 19:45
  Speaker 8: they're gonna have a lot of red zone work before
• 19:48
  Speaker 8: camp is over.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: But again, for a team that is literally starting from
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: scratch on offense, which this team is, I can understand
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: if that was the decision.
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: You know it makes sense. Yeah, I'll give you one
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: more thing too. Uh the kicker competition. I mean I
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: think that's a real competition between Joey Sly and and
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: Chid Ryland.
• 20:06
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: You know whether or not people want to hear it
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: or not.
• 20:08
  Speaker 9: But keep me updated.
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: Distances. I wrote about it. I'm just teasing you. Already
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: got your It was one of my questions, how are
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: they going to do?
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: Already write?
• 20:18
  Speaker 9: Oh no, no, I didn't write that.
• 20:20
  Speaker 10: I can tell you from years of watching Joey Sly,
• 20:22
  Speaker 10: unless he gets hurt, he's going to.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: Beat him out. Yeah. Oh yeah, tell me tell me that.
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: I love that.
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: Tell me.
• 20:29
  Speaker 10: Like And I'm not just saying that because he went
• 20:30
  Speaker 10: to Virginia Tech. Excellent kicks.
• 20:35
  Speaker 9: He's a kicker. I didn't know where he went to.
• 20:38
  Speaker 10: Yeah, he's excellent.
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: I mean, if you had to pick somebody off for
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: those mini campras, he was most He's reliable.
• 20:44
  Speaker 10: So I'm saying if as long as he doesn't get hurt,
• 20:46
  Speaker 10: I could definitely see him winning the job.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: And is Bearinger He's the only punter in camp.
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: Slash golfer sash golfer, so is he.
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: Is that a lock, or do you think they might
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: bring somebody in later.
• 20:57
  Speaker 7: Or he had a good rooking season.
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: He was fine.
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: Okay, I think he had the most punts found inside
• 21:02
  Speaker 8: the twenty. Now that's a I was gonna receiving step
• 21:05
  Speaker 8: because he also more than everybody else. But he Yeah,
• 21:09
  Speaker 8: I thought he had a pretty pretty good rookie season.
• 21:11
  Speaker 9: I agree with Evan.
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: So we have perfect attendance unless I'm obviously the five
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: guys that Paul mentioned off the top that are on
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: the list or not here. But everybody that is supposed
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: to be here is here, including god Scha is here,
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: and Judon's here. Judon put on a jersey.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: Fred Okay, there you go there.
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's that's his uh, his mo o. He always
• 21:32
  Speaker 8: comes out with his jersey, usually in his helmet.
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 21:36
  Speaker 8: But yeah, I'm still I'm with Tamara. I'm still gonna
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: sort of keep my eye out when they do some
• 21:42
  Speaker 8: some of the drills. Seven on sevens, eleven on eleven's
• 21:45
  Speaker 8: whatever if is he going to.
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: Be in there?
• 21:47
  Speaker 9: And the spring he wasn't.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: Also, two kickoffs, I mean that's another thing we we
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: we've been seeing throughout the spring, new kickoff rules, so
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: you know, Marcus Jones.
• 21:55
  Speaker 8: Another one you can shot for me, Mike, I got you.
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: Paul Special Teams, I'll get you on the on the
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: kickoff too, got that for you.
• 22:01
  Speaker 7: I'm just fascinated to see what kind of scheming they
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: do on kickoffs in terms of the blocking schemes and
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: stuff like that. That's interesting.
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: We can't report on it.
• 22:09
  Speaker 7: It's a little different than a normal kickoff where we've
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: seen it five million times over the course of our lives.
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: This is gonna be unique. There's different strategies in different
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: ways that you can go about blocking it up and returning.
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: So it's gonna be interesting to see what they pull out.
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: Interesting here they're doing the walk backwards very slowly drill yeah,
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: which I guess is like maybe I don't tear your achilles.
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: Nobody tear their achilles today.
• 22:35
  Speaker 8: That's a be careful you never know who's around.
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: Just back up slowly.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: Looks like Brian McDonough is leading this. Brian mcdonno is
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: a guy who's worked with players for a long time,
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: but privately he owns a training facility in Foxborough and
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: a lot of guys went to him in the off
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: season and used to train with him. And he's always
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: been around, but now he's officially part of the staff
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: after all these years, so.
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: He's he's not from dropping the knowledge. Ugh, yeah, he's
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: not new to the team.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: He's been around the Patriots for for i'd say fifteen
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: sixteen years.
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: How long was Moses here? I mean, Moses.
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: Was quite a long time. Yeah.
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: So, I mean a lot of everybody, you know, obviously
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: knows the coaching changes, but you know some of the
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: changes on the training staff. You're seeing a little bit
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: of you know, tweaks to the warm up stuff. I'm
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: sure that the off season program was probably a little
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: bit different than what it's been in the past. So
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: it's just such a ground zero kind of day here today.
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: I mean, you just it's it's all starts right here.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: It all starts right here.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Any any visitors guests that we can see, you know,
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: teams with their coaches or anything like that, didn't see him.
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: Remember down there, Rob Nikovitch did get to go before
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: Tamara and I speaking of the crowd, talk a little
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: bit about ten year anniversary of Super Bowl forty nine. Yeah,
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: and of course Rob Nikovitch with a big sack there
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: in the fourth quarter on third down to set up
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: the game winning I guess it was. Yeah, the game
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: end up being the game winning drive before all the
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: dramatics with Malcolm Butler. But he's the only one I've
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: seen so far, unless you want to count Scott Zolacitt
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: right over there.
• 24:08
  Speaker 9: That's I don't now, not a celebrity.
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: Not a celebrity.
• 24:13
  Speaker 9: Oh sorry, Joe.
• 24:14
  Speaker 8: So I was just telling it like, it is, uh
• 24:18
  Speaker 8: so good news to see the team pretty healthy to
• 24:23
  Speaker 8: start now. I'm ninety nine percent sure that I said
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: the same exact thing last year, and then all of
• 24:29
  Speaker 8: a sudden, you know, he gone.
• 24:30
  Speaker 9: I think it was like the.
• 24:32
  Speaker 8: Day one or two, maybe day two or three, Cold
• 24:34
  Speaker 8: Strange went down with an injury that I think really impacted.
• 24:38
  Speaker 9: His whole season.
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: So yeah, these are the kinds of things. You know,
• 24:42
  Speaker 8: it's good to start off healthy, but it's far more important.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: We know there will be injuries. Yeah, there will be injuries.
• 24:50
  Speaker 10: And I mean, well, do you think the health of
• 24:53
  Speaker 10: this team is why he's being so cautious with these practices?
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: No, I don't know. I don't.
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think at a certain point you just
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: have to go, but I don't know.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just realized that this is different. You have
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: defense on one side, offense on the other side during stretching,
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: which usually they were all together on the same field,
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: So this is a little bit different. McDonald's lee one side,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: and a Grodd's brother I believe is Deron Mayo is
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: leading the other side the offense, so that is different.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: I don't know why, what the philosophy is behind that,
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: but I'm sure there's always some reason why they decided.
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: To do that.
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: I two, Fred, I just take a second to highlight
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: a couple of position groups where it feels like the
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: depth is kind of tenuous. I mean, certainly with Jude On,
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: I mean he kind of stands alone as an all
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: around linebacker. I mean Paul mentioned Antonio Gibson. I mean
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: you're putting a lot on Antonio Gibson and Remandro Stevenson
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: right now. And if I mean, if even one of
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: those guys goes down, it's immediately a concern.
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: So Paul's not concerned. He can always get another guy
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: off this.
• 26:01
  Speaker 8: The fact that you can always get another guy off
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: the street is valid. But they haven't gotten another guy
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: off the street, and I think they've had opportunities. I
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: would say that another position. I would throw in there
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: for Mike his corner. And we've talked a lot about
• 26:14
  Speaker 8: Gilmore and he's still available.
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: You know. Like I thought a guy like.
• 26:18
  Speaker 8: Cam Akers might make some sense for the Patriots. Unfortunately
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: someone else thought the same thing, and he recently signed.
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: I think, or he's about to sign. I think with Houston,
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: maybe Latavious Murray, something like that. I think they had
• 26:32
  Speaker 8: who's the kid from Cleveland Felton? Yeah, Patrick Felton a
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: very similar player to Antonio Gibson. Obviously has some familiarity
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: with the Brown system and Alex Van Pelt, so you know,
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: I think he was in for a workout, Yester.
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: Dimitric Felton is basically a carbon copy of Antonio Gibson.
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: I believe he played receiver in college just the same
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: as Gibson did, and is a pass catching back. He's,
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: you know, a speedback, pass catching back. But we've been
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: saying running back is an area that.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, you have to have running back, but no,
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: they don't have a lot of They have about six
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: and can't.
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but they have two running backs that have done
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: anything in the NFL, right, and both those guys are
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: are gonna be big parts, and we should mention you know,
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: non football injury signifies that Antonio Gibson was injured away
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: from the facility. Uh you know, usually it's like a
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: training injury or something along those lines. That it wasn't
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: in a practice, it wasn't in an organized team activity.
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: So that's why he goes on n FI instead of
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: on PUP. But like I said, Girodmeyo didn't seem super
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: worried about it as a long term thing. But that aside,
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: even if Antonio Gibson's back here, RB three is is
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: an area of this team that is very very thin.
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: I mean they just is Kevin Harris is a Jamichael Hasty.
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: Two guys that have really just not played a whole
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: lot of offense right occreers.
• 27:52
  Speaker 8: In the NFL, you know, and maybe you know that
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: they really like the two undrafted free agents or one
• 27:56
  Speaker 8: of the two you know, you know with with Fenwick
• 27:59
  Speaker 8: and Jennings.
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: So what does that.
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: Paul I was waiting to Sissy if I needed to
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: help you out.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: So with a Van Pelt offense, according to Evan, it
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: is it maybe leans a little more run heavy than
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: other offenses.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: What are we surmising from.
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: This, that's a good question, Fred. I mean, I think
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: the tackle gets all the well, they kind of ignored
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: that position that gets all the attention, but you know,
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: it just it feels like they're one running back kind
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: of short. I mean, you know, I think Evan and
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: I when we did the draft, like we would both
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: talk a lot about, you know, one of these to
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: be crazy, like a Day three guy, but you know,
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: somebody who has a little bit of a pedigree or promises.
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: Bring Sony Michelle out retirement.
• 28:40
  Speaker 8: But I would say last year in Cleveland, you know,
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: it was kind of a similar situation with Nick Chubb.
• 28:46
  Speaker 8: And you know they have a lot of the eggs
• 28:48
  Speaker 8: in the Nick Chubb basket, right, It's it's all him.
• 28:52
  Speaker 9: He went down. Kareem Hunt is there, but he's more
• 28:55
  Speaker 9: of the Gibson kind of guy for them, you know.
• 28:58
  Speaker 8: And then they started rotating some guys through old friend
• 29:01
  Speaker 8: Pierre Strong. Oh yeah, actually got a little run and
• 29:04
  Speaker 8: I think was it. Ford played a little bit for
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: them last year for the Browns, but similar kind of situation.
• 29:11
  Speaker 8: Not necessarily a stable of proven backs behind Nick Chubb.
• 29:15
  Speaker 8: Right in Kareem Hunt, they had two guys that they
• 29:18
  Speaker 8: probably felt pretty good about I think Alex van Pelt
• 29:21
  Speaker 8: probably feels pretty good about Stevenson and Gibson. Yeah, so
• 29:24
  Speaker 8: it's probably not all that different.
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: Now, and they if those two guys stay healthy, I
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: think it's a pretty pretty good one two punch. But
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: I you know, I go back to and again things
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: have changed, so philosophies have shifted, I'm sure, but it
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: always felt like you had four backs that you at
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: least had played a little bit or had some promise,
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: or or rookies. And I mean, maybe we're ignoring Kevin
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: Harris too. Maybe they think a little higher of him
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: than than we've seen so far. I mean, he was
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: he was okay last year when he finally got a
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: chance when but again there's just such a big difference
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: between Roland Remandre out there and supplementing him with Gibson.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: It's nified non football injury too. We have any idea
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: what it is.
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: No reports yet on that, but I mean, as Evan said,
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: you know, probably some kind of training injury. He was
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: here this spring, heavily involved, no issues.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: So if they do bring somebody in, maybe that tells
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: us that it's a little more serious than we know.
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: I didn't think he did much in the spring, and
• 30:14
  Speaker 8: then certainly the practices that I was here.
• 30:17
  Speaker 9: I don't know if that was related to this. No,
• 30:20
  Speaker 9: he seemed healthy in the spring, he was.
• 30:22
  Speaker 8: Definitely and he was out there in uniform yeah, yeah,
• 30:25
  Speaker 8: I mean in his shirt and helmet.
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah. So Deshaun Fenwick is the UDFA running back that
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: I would look at that some people were pretty high
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: on as a late, you know, day three type of
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: guy in the draft ends up going undrafted. But Terrell
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: Jennings is their other UDFA there, and he's also on
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: pup to start camp, so he's not out here right now.
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: But Deshaun Fenwick, I spent a lot of time in
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: college USC, Oregon State, bounced around.
• 30:49
  Speaker 8: I think he spent six years in college. Fenwick one
• 30:52
  Speaker 8: of those guys. He was pretty good at Oregon State.
• 30:54
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but he's average over five yards of carry in
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: college and had some flash at Oregon State the last
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: couple of years for sure. So he could be somebody
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: that could make a push here. But I think we're
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: all in the same boat.
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: With the craft is on the field.
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: To your point of it, I mean, it's it's hard
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: to really glean much about running backs until you probably
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: get into preseason games, but at the very least getting
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: to pads and for such a critical part of this offense,
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: you know, it will be a little bit frustrating not
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: to get a real sense of those, you know, lower
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: end guys. We know what Remondre can do. There's just
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: some opportunity exists there.
• 31:30
  Speaker 7: There's just so much emphasis on the system, it feels
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: like to me. And you know, as we know about
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: running backs with the data, it suggests that you can
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: basically plug in a lot of different running backs and
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: probably get relatively the same production if you're blocking it
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: well and it's sequenced together properly. And there's a lot
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: right now, and I think it was Tom Curns on
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: one of Paul's shows said that Alex van Pelt is
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: the most important person in the building right now. And
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: that's exactly how it feels to me, because if his
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: system doesn't work, if it doesn't take hold, they're going
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: to be swimming upstream in a lot of different areas
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: on offense, as we know already from a personnel standpoint,
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: and there's just so much riding on outside zone bootleg
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: actions like all of this just kind of coming together
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: and I think running backs another place where that's the case,
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: where they're just hoping that okay, well somebody gets hurt,
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: that Kevin Harris will just take on a bigger role
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: and then they'll still be productive. And I think that's
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: a lot to ask.
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: I think running backs, you know who I don't see, okay,
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: I feel like.
• 32:35
  Speaker 10: He's always lurking around. Also, I feel like it's hard
• 32:39
  Speaker 10: to talk about the running packs without talking about the
• 32:41
  Speaker 10: offensive line because it all starts with them, and unfortunately,
• 32:45
  Speaker 10: like you've seen for Remandre and even Zeke last year
• 32:48
  Speaker 10: that it was tough for them to get anything going
• 32:50
  Speaker 10: when there wasn't anywhere to go because the offensive line
• 32:52
  Speaker 10: was struggling.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: Well, that might change this year, Tamara, because of the style.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: It's more of like, you know, by the time the
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: balls in the running backs hands, the lines already on
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: the move, you know, according to Evan, that's the way
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: this offense runs.
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: So there might be a little bit more room.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: But you're right, last year there was so much contact
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: behind the line of scrimmage they couldn't get their momentum going.
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, not everybody's Nick Chubb, So I'm not
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: trying to say that the Browns offense was the same
• 33:21
  Speaker 7: with and without Nick Chubb. But statistically the running backs
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: that replaced Nick Chubb over the years did well in
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: Cleveland to the point where it was productive in the
• 33:31
  Speaker 7: running game. Was it yards after contact like crazy like
• 33:35
  Speaker 7: Nick Chubb can produce. No, But they were still averaging,
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: you know, top ten in the league and yards per
• 33:41
  Speaker 7: carrying things like that because their system and their scheme
• 33:44
  Speaker 7: and they're blocking and all that kind of stuff is
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: sound and it works and that's what they would do.
• 33:50
  Speaker 10: Evan, do you think this offensive line here has a
• 33:54
  Speaker 10: chance to do what the Browns offensive line was doing.
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: They're not as talented as I mean, I have major
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: concerns about scheme fit for a lot of these alignement,
• 34:02
  Speaker 7: about what they're trying to do. I mean, if Mike
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: on Wendy's playing tackle at three hundred and forty pounds
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: and then you're trying to get him out on the
• 34:10
  Speaker 7: edge to try to block, you know, outside zone, it's
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: just it's tenuous. It's tenuous if they're going to have
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: the personnel to run that kind of system.
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: To see the line there on your screen, whether it's
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: your phone or your smart TV, and you see the
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: quarterbacks in the other box warming up.
• 34:26
  Speaker 10: I wasn't on the show with you guys yesterday after
• 34:28
  Speaker 10: Mayo spoke, But how did you feel, guys, just after
• 34:32
  Speaker 10: hearing girod Mayo talk. Do you feel like he's confident
• 34:35
  Speaker 10: in what they have or because he was asked about
• 34:38
  Speaker 10: like Okay, who's gonna who's going to play on the
• 34:40
  Speaker 10: west side?
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: Think?
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think he's realistic. I mean it's he's
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: definitely a different coach than Bill was. And I mean
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: we said, you know, all along we're talking about coaches
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: that there's different ways to do it, and this is
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: certainly going to be different. I mean, you know, personally,
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: I kind of had this experience in my sports playing career.
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: I played for coaches like Bill, I played for coaches
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: like Mayo, and for me personally, I got my best
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: performance out of coaches like Mayo. So we'll see.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure they're played to be coddled.
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 35:06
  Speaker 9: They were a sensitive artist type, right right, right?
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: No, no screaming at me. I mean, you know, Fred
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: and I just got yelled at all the time. Oh
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: yeah no, and that certainly, you know was my case
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: in college. But you know, I'm sure that there are
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: guys on this team that prefer that are going to
• 35:20
  Speaker 6: prefer Bill's style and the hard ass style, and you
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: know that certainly works for certain guys. But I just
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: think Mayo is fully cognizant that this all has to
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: come together. And as I said starting the recap yesterday,
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: it's about winning games. Like that they understand it, like
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: none of this matters if they win games. All the
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: stuff we talk about, you win games, a lot of
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: that stuff fault and if you lose, everything gets magnified.
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: I think he's aware.
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: Well, it's funny, you know. Yes, Bill was the coach
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: over the last four years, but during the last four
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: years it was Mac Jones who said I want to
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: be coached harder. Now.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: I don't know if he was talking about Bill, I
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: doubt it, but he certainly was talking, probably about Patricia
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: at the time that he wanted hard coaching according to him.
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: I think it has a little bit of a different
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: meaning to me now in retrospect, knowing, you know, kind
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: of what we know, what they were going through, and
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: it wasn't I mean now I kind of look at
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: it not as I want them to be harder on me.
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: I want it's more. I want them to know what
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: they're doing and to really you know, to turn the
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: screws to get it to where we need it to be,
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: you know, not yell at me when I make mistakes.
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: More.
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: There was just a lut going on the last couple
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: of years, and I mean it's interesting because it feels
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: like year three where we're like, all right, what's this
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: offense going to look like? For so long you guys
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: watch training camp Josh McDaniels, Tom Brady, the offense is
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: the offense. We know exactly what we're going to get.
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: And now we're third year in a row, new offense,
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: and it's it's probably changed right now more than it
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: has the last two years.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: You know, this is going to be the most I
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: can't emphasize enough that this offense is starting from scratch.
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And I just think Evan's point about, you know,
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: where are they all going to meet? Like if the
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: offensive line can't do what Alex van Pelt wants them
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: to do, he said, I'm not going to try to,
• 36:59
  Speaker 6: you know, jam people into this scheme. So what does
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: it become then, you know, do they do they start
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: going more to the power and the gap schemes that
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: fit their personnel a little bit better. You know, do
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: they get away from more wide zone? Does that affect
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: you know, it's like if you pull a string a
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: thread out of this offense and it's like, well, we're
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: not we'rening my zone. We can't really do the bootlegs now.
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: And then all of a sudden, you know, you're kind
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: of left with just a skeleton of your playbook, and
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: you know, maybe maybe it'll be a good thing. Maybe
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: it'll force Alex van Pelt to be innovative and you know,
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: have to have to accommodate his players, to accommodate his
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: system to the players. But that's what we're gonna be
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: watching here. We've seen two training camps where the offense
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: has struggled and the players look miserable after the practice
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: and they have full periods where there's one completion and
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: you're like, this is a train wreck. I just I
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: just hope to God that it doesn't exist.
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: The most critical joint practice we've seen in a number
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: of years, where.
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: I think it'd be the most interesting.
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: You know, where you really need it to see what
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: what the status check is of the team, because.
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: Even last year in in Green Bay, and I think,
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: you know, I was more with the defense, seven was
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: the offense. But I think he'd tell you that it
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: might have been a little bit of fool's goal. Even
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: in that in that joint practice, some of the things
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: you saw where it felt like they were turning the
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: corner and you know, making some plays out there, it
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: never really materialized. And not even throw the Raiders the
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: year before, which I went back and looked at my
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: notes at that joint practice and they were really terrible
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: both days, but the end of practice eleven on eleven
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: two minute drill competitive portions, the Patriots I think scored
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: touchdowns on all their final drives of that day, which
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: again it was kind of man, I think they're terrible,
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: but wow, that was, you know, a good drive and
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: they're psyched and they put one in the end zone.
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: And maybe it's not as bad as we think it is.
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: It was as bad as we thought, Yeah it was.
• 38:42
  Speaker 7: It's so funny to look back now in hindsight those
• 38:45
  Speaker 7: Green Bay joined practices and how good Green Bay ended
• 38:48
  Speaker 7: up being and how bad the Patriots ended up being,
• 38:51
  Speaker 7: because you watch those practices in Green Bay and it
• 38:54
  Speaker 7: felt even like it felt like green The Patriots kind
• 38:57
  Speaker 7: of won the first day, Green Bay kind of won
• 38:59
  Speaker 7: the second day. But it was a back and forth competition,
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: and the Packers ended up going all the way to
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: the NFC Championship game. In the Patriots win four games and.
• 39:10
  Speaker 8: They went they went to the divisional round and they
• 39:13
  Speaker 8: finished five hundred. They're ten and ten on the season,
• 39:16
  Speaker 8: And to me, it's kind of illustrated how close it
• 39:21
  Speaker 8: can be, because I agree with Evan, I don't think
• 39:24
  Speaker 8: you know, based on what you guys reported from those practices,
• 39:27
  Speaker 8: I didn't think there was that much of a difference.
• 39:29
  Speaker 8: It's like you win a couple of games down the
• 39:31
  Speaker 8: stretch and you sneak in the playoffs at nine and eight.
• 39:33
  Speaker 8: You're playing a little bit better down the stretch. Jordan
• 39:36
  Speaker 8: Love was really bad for three quarters of the season.
• 39:38
  Speaker 8: He was great at the end, to the point now
• 39:41
  Speaker 8: people were talking about him. He might become the highest
• 39:43
  Speaker 8: paid player of football, you.
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: Know, within a week.
• 39:45
  Speaker 8: So it to me, it's just kind of like how
• 39:48
  Speaker 8: close good and bad is now?
• 39:52
  Speaker 9: Great and bad is a big gap.
• 39:54
  Speaker 8: Like to me, there's a big gap between San Francisco
• 39:57
  Speaker 8: and Kansas City, and you know, those teams and.
• 40:01
  Speaker 9: Where the Patriots were a last ship.
• 40:02
  Speaker 8: But I don't think there's a big gap between middle
• 40:05
  Speaker 8: of the pack Green Bay and the Patriots, and I
• 40:07
  Speaker 8: think the Patriots could get there with you know, some
• 40:10
  Speaker 8: development from their young quarterback, just like Jordan Loved it.
• 40:12
  Speaker 7: I mean, Jordan Love did not tear up those practices
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: against the Patriots by any means. He had the flashes
• 40:18
  Speaker 7: of the arm, talent and things like that, but it
• 40:21
  Speaker 7: wasn't anything crazy where we came away from Deuce and
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: I came away from those practices. And that's something that
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: I'm reminding myself just with this team and with Drake
• 40:30
  Speaker 7: May and everything. Is a lot of this stuff that
• 40:33
  Speaker 7: happens in training camp, just it doesn't end up going
• 40:36
  Speaker 7: that way during the season, as much as we love
• 40:38
  Speaker 7: covering it.
• 40:39
  Speaker 10: And I feel c. J. Stroud is another great example.
• 40:43
  Speaker 10: If you watched him in the preseason and thought that
• 40:45
  Speaker 10: he was going to be where he was at the
• 40:47
  Speaker 10: end of the season, like props were you for having
• 40:50
  Speaker 10: that ability to envision that. But I was not seeing that.
• 40:52
  Speaker 7: When I saw him.
• 40:53
  Speaker 9: No, certainly not. And I should correct myself.
• 40:55
  Speaker 8: Ten and nine, yeah, because they were nine and eight
• 40:57
  Speaker 8: and they won and one of the player.
• 40:59
  Speaker 7: Yes, I should correct my self that they lost in
• 41:00
  Speaker 7: the Niners.
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: Speaking of Shroud, he was recently on a podcast or
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: something and said that he thought Drake May is the
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: most pro ready quarterback of the rookie class.
• 41:10
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I thought.
• 41:11
  Speaker 7: What was great about the comments that he made too,
• 41:13
  Speaker 7: if you're a Patriots fan wanted to be optimistic, was
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: he was talking about Drake May's poise in the pocket
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: and his ability to move in the pocket. And he
• 41:20
  Speaker 7: said that when he first started in the NFL, CJ.
• 41:23
  Speaker 7: Stroud he was moving around too much and causing pressure
• 41:27
  Speaker 7: where there wasn't pressure and things like that. And he
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: said that he watched Drake May at North Carolina. He's
• 41:32
  Speaker 7: composed and calm and poised with his movement and only
• 41:36
  Speaker 7: moving when he absolutely had to and scrambling when he
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: absolutely had to. So those were some of the things
• 41:41
  Speaker 7: that you saw in the draft that made you excited.
• 41:44
  Speaker 7: And you talk about how bad the offensive line is
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: to some people, But if he can handle the conditions
• 41:51
  Speaker 7: like he did at North Carolina the same way in
• 41:53
  Speaker 7: the pros, which I get is a step up. But
• 41:55
  Speaker 7: if he can do the same type of thing, then
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: maybe the line isn't as bad because they have a
• 41:59
  Speaker 7: quarter that can make up for it.
• 42:01
  Speaker 10: I also want to say too that when I think
• 42:03
  Speaker 10: of when I look at the Stroud situation, it gives
• 42:05
  Speaker 10: me the ability to be more patient because it's like,
• 42:08
  Speaker 10: even if May comes out and he's plays like c. J.
• 42:11
  Speaker 10: Stroud did and he's preseason games, that's not mean it's
• 42:14
  Speaker 10: the end all be all and you should just sit
• 42:16
  Speaker 10: him and not play him the whole season. Like it's
• 42:18
  Speaker 10: not gonna just blow up his whole season if he
• 42:20
  Speaker 10: plays bad in the preseason. So I think we need
• 42:23
  Speaker 10: to have patients regardless of what we see. sALS training hide.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: You can email the show web radio at Patriots dot Com.
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: Is the email address in Andre for New Jersey does so.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: He says, if Bill was the coach for this season,
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: will Judon and Gotcha get an extension by now? And
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: would we be seeing a rookie left tackle out there
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: instead of May?
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: What do he mean?
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: See some good questions there? Because Bill obviously loves the
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: defense he gave He's given what Gotshaw two contracts. Ye,
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: I don't think you would have given him another way? Yeah,
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: it might be a little asking, a little much but
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: I do wonder on Judah because he's an outside linebacker,
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: and so I hold in last year.
• 42:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't think that they would have given him
• 42:59
  Speaker 8: an extension, But I also don't think the other guys,
• 43:01
  Speaker 8: all of them. Some of them might have, but all
• 43:03
  Speaker 8: of those other guys wouldn't have gotten him, and I
• 43:05
  Speaker 8: think that's what's led to this.
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I don't think Bourne would have. I mean,
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: I would say probably most of them. I mean, it's
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: easy to make a case for just about all those.
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: Hunter Henry is one that I just there's nobody on
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: the market.
• 43:15
  Speaker 8: Henry would be would would have been resigned in my opinion, Yeah,
• 43:18
  Speaker 8: me too. I don't think Stevenson would have gotten his.
• 43:20
  Speaker 8: I'm talking about extensions now. Stevenson I don't think would
• 43:23
  Speaker 8: have gotten it. Barmore might have. Barber might have gotten.
• 43:27
  Speaker 8: You're getting a year ahead of the detach and especially
• 43:31
  Speaker 8: like it didn't like that deal was very team friend.
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: But would Bill had gotten ahead of it? And that's
• 43:37
  Speaker 6: the thing that it kind of fallen generally in recent
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: years though, I mean, guys were getting to their contract.
• 43:43
  Speaker 8: And this gets back to you a thing that you
• 43:44
  Speaker 8: always say, Mike. In recent years he hasn't had guys
• 43:46
  Speaker 8: that would have been worthy of that right, you know,
• 43:49
  Speaker 8: because the draft has been so.
• 43:50
  Speaker 7: But I also feel like he's missed the boat on
• 43:53
  Speaker 7: some of it to an extent where in the past
• 43:56
  Speaker 7: he would be ready to replace that guy with the
• 43:58
  Speaker 7: next player and hasn't drafted as well. Kyle Duggar to me,
• 44:03
  Speaker 7: would have been here on the franchise tag for this year,
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: especially after the season we saw from map Who. I
• 44:09
  Speaker 7: just don't think map Who's ready to be a starting
• 44:12
  Speaker 7: safety in the league. So maybe Kyle Duger is here
• 44:14
  Speaker 7: for one more year on the tag, but I don't
• 44:16
  Speaker 7: think his plan was to give Kyle Dugger a multi year.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: Spaking of Bill, Andre also says he thought it was
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: idiotic for Kyle Shanahan to offer Belichick a job on
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: the coaching staff, knowing he just wants to be a
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: head coach.
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: I didn't think it was idiotic.
• 44:30
  Speaker 9: I don't think it's I mean, Kyle.
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: The Shanahans have a history with Bill.
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: Mike Shanahan came to Bill's defense during Spygate, and Bill
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: came to Mike Shanahan's defense when he didn't have a
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: job and said, I can't believe Mike Shanahan doesn't have
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: a job in the NFL. Kyle Shanahan just said the
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: same thing about Bill, So it makes sense. And listen,
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: if I was Kyle Shanahan and Bill wanted to be
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: on my staff, would do whatever. Come on coming on
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: once a week, I'll build you a house.
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: Tell me what you see, give what are your points
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: of emphasis for this game? We got the rest, right.
• 45:03
  Speaker 7: That was how it was presented from Kyle Shanahan's perspective too,
• 45:07
  Speaker 7: was he literally called Bill and said whatever you want.
• 45:10
  Speaker 7: You can do whatever you want, Like, we'll pay you
• 45:12
  Speaker 7: to do whatever you want to do. Whether it's defensive coordinator,
• 45:15
  Speaker 7: it's just an advisor role, like whatever it is, there's
• 45:18
  Speaker 7: a job for you here.
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 45:19
  Speaker 8: I like to take shots at Evans boy Shannahan, but
• 45:22
  Speaker 8: I think it would have been negligent. Yeah, given his
• 45:24
  Speaker 8: relationship with Belichick, right, Like, I'm not just telling you
• 45:27
  Speaker 8: every guy in the league should have called Bill Belichick
• 45:29
  Speaker 8: and said, would you like to be a consultant. The
• 45:31
  Speaker 8: Shannahans are different. I think it would have been negligent
• 45:34
  Speaker 8: for him not to at least ask. I mean, I'm
• 45:36
  Speaker 8: sure Mike Vrabel wishes he was a head coach. Yeah,
• 45:39
  Speaker 8: he considers himself a head coach. He took a consultant job, yeah,
• 45:42
  Speaker 8: with Cleveland. And I know that Belichick is not Rabele.
• 45:45
  Speaker 8: I'm not equating the two, but I'm just saying, you
• 45:47
  Speaker 8: don't know if you don't ask. And he has a
• 45:49
  Speaker 8: great relationship with Belichick.
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. I mean you see coaches do that all
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: the time. I mean.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: Dom Capers did it with us. Yeah, Like you know,
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: he wanted to be a head coach or a DC,
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: but he took a job with us just to stay
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: in the game, you know, to stay to stay relevant.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: It happens all the time now. Like you said, Paul
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: Bill's a whole different thing.
• 46:13
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and I completely acknowledge that that Bill's you know,
• 46:17
  Speaker 8: a level of accomplishment, you know, dwarfs anybody else's right.
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: But no, I don't think it was idiotic at all.
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: I think it was why not ask? Why not ask?
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: All right?
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: So we see UH offense on one side, defense on
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: the other. It's still kind of going through you know,
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: unit drills i'd call it.
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, still positionals ju Ju and Osborne leading things off
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: for the receivers. I I don't know, maybe I'm just
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: I'm an overly optimist. I don't. I just like watching
• 46:47
  Speaker 6: Javon Baker. I just I'm intrigued by him. I know
• 46:50
  Speaker 6: he's just running warm ups, but the way he moves
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: it's just a little bit different to me. I really, we.
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: Didn't and it got to look like the thumb is
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: bothering him at all. No, it doesn't seem like.
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: It seems like he's okay healthy. I mean, we saw
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: a little bit of him in the spring and not
• 47:03
  Speaker 6: much in competitive team portions. He didn't really, but you know,
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: it's just when you look at this receiving core and
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: you know what they need, it's hard not to look
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: at the only guy you don't really have any sense
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: of yet be like, maybe he's the one. But I
• 47:16
  Speaker 6: just continue to think he has a little bit of
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: spring in his step that the other guys don't quite have.
• 47:22
  Speaker 6: So we'll see at that translate. I could be totally wrong,
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: But you just keep.
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: Hearing with him about keeping him on the tracks, like
• 47:29
  Speaker 7: can they keep the train on the tracks with him
• 47:31
  Speaker 7: and keep him on the program. It's not talent, Like
• 47:34
  Speaker 7: the talent is not an issue. This guy was committed
• 47:37
  Speaker 7: to Alabama, played at Alabama, tore it up at Central Florida.
• 47:42
  Speaker 7: Like he's a very talented football player, it's just about
• 47:45
  Speaker 7: can you keep him mentally locked in.
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: Another observation I've had, and I'm probably reading way too
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: much into it, but I just get the sense that
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: Brian Belichick feels confident out there. Yeah, like he really
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: knows what he's doing. He feels empowered to really coach
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: and not just be out there.
• 48:07
  Speaker 10: And I can't imagine how freeing it is to be
• 48:10
  Speaker 10: out of the shadows of your brother and dad.
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: Well not's some that.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: Plus, I think you know, he's done it long enough
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: now where I think you would consider him a veteran
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: coach now. And I was watching him earlier, you know,
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: talking to some of the younger assistant coaches and telling
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: them what he, you know, wants them to do during
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: and he just looked confident. Now, again, that could be
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: just me reading into it, but I got that sense.
• 48:34
  Speaker 6: It's funny.
• 48:35
  Speaker 10: But I mean Fred too, I think it could be
• 48:37
  Speaker 10: he was injured like the first half of the majority
• 48:39
  Speaker 10: of the season, so actually being able to be out
• 48:41
  Speaker 10: there walking around and coaching on your two feet, yeah,
• 48:44
  Speaker 10: it probably means everything.
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, last year he had that terrible accident, tore up
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: his knee and really couldn't get out on the field
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: at all.
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, mid season, If that's.
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: It's funny, friend, I caught a little and you guys
• 48:55
  Speaker 6: can make fun of me, but I always and whenever
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: Bill's Football Life is on from two thousand and nine,
• 48:59
  Speaker 6: I got I gotta watch it. But the amount I
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: was my guy, thanks, But the amount that Brian Belichick
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: is in that it didn't really occur to me ever.
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: But man, he is by Bill's side through that all
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: the time thing, and you realize it's like, no, yeah,
• 49:14
  Speaker 6: it's we talk about nepotism all that, but it's like
• 49:16
  Speaker 6: this kid has been immersed in NFL football since he
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: was like ten years old, just like Bill was, so
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: he should really blossom here. And I just you know, look,
• 49:26
  Speaker 6: Bill Belichick is a legend here. I'm sure we'll do
• 49:29
  Speaker 6: something for him at some point when he retired, But
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: to still have a Belichick in the building, I still
• 49:33
  Speaker 6: think that's pretty cool.
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, when when you know Steve was out with the players,
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: Brian would be right by Bill's hit with a notepad.
• 49:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and Bill's telling himself to write down and I mean,
• 49:44
  Speaker 6: you know what he's been privy to his whole life.
• 49:45
  Speaker 6: He knows exactly how his dad sees the game. And
• 49:48
  Speaker 6: you know, now as a young coach, he's really I mean,
• 49:51
  Speaker 6: I think it's just you get a chance to spread
• 49:52
  Speaker 6: your wings. You're out of the shadows, as as Van
• 49:54
  Speaker 6: Tamara said, and you know, being able to really become yourself.
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: I know he just had a baby too, so it's
• 49:59
  Speaker 6: you know, it's it's all coming together for him and
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: I'm glad he's here still. Ye all right, Well with
• 50:05
  Speaker 6: Bryl Peppers, there's my guy who just you know, full
• 50:09
  Speaker 6: of energy always, you know, standing on the field, and
• 50:11
  Speaker 6: you know, hey, we all got to have our favorites, right.
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: Caleb writes in from Knoxville. He says it's great to
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: see the first ever volunteer get a gig at head
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: coach in the NFL. Talking about Gerard Mayo, of course,
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: I will follow that up with saying I don't have
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: much faith.
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: Frankly, when I think.
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: About what the end game looks like with Mayo, I
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: can't think of anything outside of him being a bridge
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: head coach. My question, what do you think the end
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: game for Mayo and Patriots look like, we really believe
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: he is going to lead this team to the AFHC
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: Championship Game or Super Bowl in the next four or
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: five years. Let's be honest. He has never been anything
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: more than a linebacker assistant coach.
• 50:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but how many coaches in the NFL can you
• 50:55
  Speaker 6: say that about right now? Do you feel confident that
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: they have what it takes to be I mean, there's
• 50:59
  Speaker 6: what five coaches and they don't just grow on trees
• 51:01
  Speaker 6: like so, I don't know. I'm not gonna sit here
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: and write what the end of the Jirab Mao era
• 51:06
  Speaker 6: is going to look like on day one. Uh, you
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: can believe whatever you want. I understand why people might
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: not have a lot of faith in him, you know,
• 51:13
  Speaker 6: given his experience and you know, maybe his overall kind
• 51:16
  Speaker 6: of football knowledge, especially on the offensive side of the
• 51:18
  Speaker 6: ball that's so important right now. But I think that
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: he's a guy who's been waiting for this chance. Clearly
• 51:24
  Speaker 6: the ownership believes in him. It's personally I like the guy.
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: But I think things have changed a little bit in
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: the NFL, where I think back in the day, it
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: was very hard for a first time head coach to
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: have success and maybe their first stint, maybe it took
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: them a couple of stints.
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: But I think you're seeing a lot.
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: Of these young guys McVeigh Shanahan, not that Shanahan has
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: won a Super Bowl, but have success early on. The
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: kid with the Vikings, Uh yeah, I mean they're having
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: success at least winning games early on. And Mike McDaniel, Yeah,
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: So I don't think it's out of it's it's not
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: out of the ordinary anymore for first.
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: Time head coaches to have that seat. Those guys have quarterbacks.
• 52:08
  Speaker 10: I feel like Dan Campbell is a good example. It's
• 52:11
  Speaker 10: like everyone watch Hard Knocks and he's laugh at him
• 52:12
  Speaker 10: and you're like, this guy's not gonna be terrible, and
• 52:16
  Speaker 10: then look at them now.
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: And he's from the defensive side of the ball to
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: which is a good si.
• 52:20
  Speaker 7: An offensive coach. Dan Campbell played tight end. Why did
• 52:24
  Speaker 7: I think he was alignment.
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: Because he spits It.
• 52:27
  Speaker 7: Looks like but the Lions are such a great example,
• 52:30
  Speaker 7: because Frank, I don't think Dan Campbell is a great coach.
• 52:33
  Speaker 7: I think he's a great motivator. I don't think he's
• 52:35
  Speaker 7: a great coach, but but it is a good leader.
• 52:37
  Speaker 7: I said, it is a great motivator, but at the
• 52:40
  Speaker 7: same time, their roster now is loaded and that's why
• 52:43
  Speaker 7: it comes back. It's Elliott Wolf, like I drave Mayo
• 52:46
  Speaker 7: can do what he does, but like it comes down
• 52:49
  Speaker 7: to can they get the personnel right? Like, like there
• 52:51
  Speaker 7: might win games if they have good personnel.
• 52:53
  Speaker 8: To Mike's point, you know, he's you know, how many
• 52:56
  Speaker 8: coaches around the league do you feel all that confident?
• 52:58
  Speaker 9: And I and I kind of agree with it.
• 52:59
  Speaker 8: I think are some of the you know, like McVeigh, Shanahan, Reid, Harball,
• 53:04
  Speaker 8: you know.
• 53:04
  Speaker 9: I put those guys in.
• 53:05
  Speaker 8: Those are guys that I have faith in if I'm
• 53:07
  Speaker 8: their fans of their teams. Yeah, but there are a
• 53:10
  Speaker 8: lot of really good teams that are Super Bowl contenders
• 53:12
  Speaker 8: that I'm not necessarily like Sean McDermott, Like, I think
• 53:15
  Speaker 8: Buffalo is really good, but I'm not sure he's a
• 53:18
  Speaker 8: great coach. Cincinnati, I'm not sure Zach Taylor is a
• 53:20
  Speaker 8: great coach. Yeah, I'm not telling you these guys stink,
• 53:23
  Speaker 8: but I don't. I don't put them you know, in
• 53:27
  Speaker 8: a in a battle of wits one on one with
• 53:29
  Speaker 8: Andy Reid or or Shanahan or or McVeigh. I don't
• 53:32
  Speaker 8: think that they're necessarily going to win that battle. In
• 53:34
  Speaker 8: Detroit's another great example.
• 53:36
  Speaker 10: I think Demiico Ryans too. I think that you could
• 53:38
  Speaker 10: have probably written him off early and been like, what's
• 53:41
  Speaker 10: he going to do with this Texans team? Like is
• 53:43
  Speaker 10: he going to be able to take CJ. Stroud to
• 53:45
  Speaker 10: the next level? And I think now, especially with the
• 53:47
  Speaker 10: additions they have of you know, Stefan Diggs, I'm interested
• 53:49
  Speaker 10: to see what their offense looks like. But Bobby, Bobby,
• 53:52
  Speaker 10: he definitely didn't get hired and you were immediately like
• 53:54
  Speaker 10: that that team is going to the super Bowl.
• 53:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah. I mean Demiko Ryans was a heralded assistant coach
• 54:00
  Speaker 7: for many using many cycles, three cycles. Yeah, but all
• 54:05
  Speaker 7: those coaches, you know, it's all about the coordinators too,
• 54:08
  Speaker 7: like Bobby Slow, which you know, and of course I'm
• 54:12
  Speaker 7: blanking on the guy and in Detroit, but Ben Ben Johnson,
• 54:15
  Speaker 7: thank you. Those two guys go to head get head
• 54:18
  Speaker 7: coaching jobs in a year whatever. Who knows what those
• 54:22
  Speaker 7: offensives are going to look like in this We've seen
• 54:24
  Speaker 7: it in Buffalo that they have taken a little bit
• 54:26
  Speaker 7: of a step back, subscrying Daviles left. So a big
• 54:30
  Speaker 7: part of this to me is not necessarily about is
• 54:32
  Speaker 7: it Gerrod Mayo? It's is it Elliot Wolf? Is it
• 54:35
  Speaker 7: Alex Van Pelt? Is it Drake may Like? Are these
• 54:37
  Speaker 7: the right guys in those positions? Because I think Gerrod
• 54:40
  Speaker 7: can lead a football team. I mean he did it
• 54:42
  Speaker 7: as a player. I think he can do it as
• 54:43
  Speaker 7: a coach. It's it's just a matter of are they
• 54:46
  Speaker 7: going to have the other pieces in place to be successful?
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, real quick, just you know, we're getting into
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: a little bit of of you know, defense overall. But gotcha,
• 54:55
  Speaker 6: Judon both seem to be participating in these Oh that's great.
• 54:58
  Speaker 8: That's why there's still position trills stuff.
• 55:00
  Speaker 9: They haven't done anything to yether.
• 55:01
  Speaker 6: Was this the stuff? They weren't sitting ou lat year
• 55:03
  Speaker 6: they woud they would still do.
• 55:03
  Speaker 8: This stuff like this isn't the stuff though? No, when
• 55:08
  Speaker 8: there's an offense on the other side, they've generally yeah,
• 55:11
  Speaker 8: the teams watching, Yeah.
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: Tim and Hubbardston right in what's your favorite training camp
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: memory of all time? It can be as a fan
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: or employee.
• 55:19
  Speaker 6: Mike, this has got you written all see now, it's
• 55:21
  Speaker 6: like too many, too many things going through my head.
• 55:26
  Speaker 6: There's probably a couple and I might come up with
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: a better one. But last year at Green Bay, I
• 55:31
  Speaker 6: mean just being in Green Bay. And then I think
• 55:34
  Speaker 6: I've said before like there are two fields that are
• 55:36
  Speaker 6: separated by a fieldhouse in the middle. So we go,
• 55:38
  Speaker 6: we're warming up on a field closer to Lambeau. It's
• 55:41
  Speaker 6: just the Patriots doing their usual thing. It's kind of quiet,
• 55:44
  Speaker 6: and then all right, they're ready for you. And we
• 55:46
  Speaker 6: walked through the middle and it was like, all of
• 55:50
  Speaker 6: a sudden, you're walking into a pack stadium, like not stadium,
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: but you know, past hostiles. The music's blaring, and it's
• 55:57
  Speaker 6: just like starting eleven on one end, starting twelve a D,
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: starting eleven D on the other end, and they just
• 56:02
  Speaker 6: walked right on the field and I was like, this
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: is awesome. Like the fans were into it. It was intense,
• 56:07
  Speaker 6: like there was no time to take it in. It
• 56:08
  Speaker 6: was just like they literally just walked right onto the
• 56:10
  Speaker 6: field and started going eleven on eleven. That was just
• 56:13
  Speaker 6: really really fun.
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: But that's cool.
• 56:15
  Speaker 9: That's a good one.
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Fine.
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: Most of my kind of fondest memories I think come
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: from Bryan College.
• 56:22
  Speaker 9: Getting your Dell's Lemonades go Fossil.
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: You know, just watching Parcels coach guys one on one,
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: Lawyer Maloya and ty Law coming over and just sitting
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: with us under the tent and just shooting.
• 56:34
  Speaker 9: Telling us they don't listen to Eric Mangini.
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, those I think we were a little bit more
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: upp close and personal back then.
• 56:42
  Speaker 9: Definitely.
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So those are some of my best memories back
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: in Bryan College. I mean here it was always so like,
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: you know, don't do this, don't do that, so it
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: was different.
• 56:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I got one more I can share. It was
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: right after I got officially got the job, but I
• 57:01
  Speaker 6: couldn't start till like, you know, training camp started on
• 57:04
  Speaker 6: like Wednesday, but I couldn't officially start till Monday because
• 57:06
  Speaker 6: you know, I had to do orientation and stuff. So
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: I knew i'd gotten the job and Fred, you know,
• 57:10
  Speaker 6: they credentialed me, so like, oh, I'm gonna come watch
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: at least. But I remember just sitting on the side
• 57:14
  Speaker 6: and looking up and you know, seeing Paul and Eric
• 57:16
  Speaker 6: and Fred and Megan, you know, doing this live show
• 57:20
  Speaker 6: and knowing I was about to be part of it,
• 57:22
  Speaker 6: but I wasn't yet. You know so, and I remember
• 57:23
  Speaker 6: looking up at Paul, and Paul I kind of gave
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: me a little wave, and I'm like, oh my god,
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: he just gave me a little like, you know, I
• 57:30
  Speaker 6: just gave you a little hello, Paul, just just a
• 57:33
  Speaker 6: little wave. But but that was just cool knowing that, like, man,
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna actually be part of this now and and
• 57:39
  Speaker 6: you know, be part of that crew. And that was
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: that was a really cool moment too.
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: We look good, like from the distance sexy.
• 57:45
  Speaker 8: I think that's that's my distance, Fred, you know six levels.
• 57:50
  Speaker 9: I look well, you.
• 57:50
  Speaker 6: Guys were throw away. No, you were still down close
• 57:53
  Speaker 6: to the field. That was when you guys were still
• 57:54
  Speaker 6: doing it in the in the stand right right at
• 57:57
  Speaker 6: the end of the thing, so you were under the
• 57:58
  Speaker 6: little tent stuff. So I wasn't so I apologize that
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: I'd probably close to you. You still look good.
• 58:03
  Speaker 7: I remember my least favorite memory as a fan. I
• 58:07
  Speaker 7: was on the hill right here and someone accidentally landed
• 58:13
  Speaker 7: on Tom Brady's leg in.
• 58:15
  Speaker 8: The middle of practice. Was that a joint practice, I
• 58:17
  Speaker 8: don't think so. Maybe it was the knee brace.
• 58:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it landed on his leg and he goes down
• 58:23
  Speaker 7: in a heap, like just like he went down and
• 58:25
  Speaker 7: Bernard Pollard hit his leg and eighty and they were.
• 58:28
  Speaker 9: Playing joint practices against the Bucks that day.
• 58:31
  Speaker 7: And I was with some friends and all of us
• 58:34
  Speaker 7: are just freaking out right, They're all in and then
• 58:40
  Speaker 7: there was a helicopter that was circling above and I
• 58:44
  Speaker 7: was like, oh, no, like are they met backing out?
• 58:47
  Speaker 6: Like we were all just thought that what year was that?
• 58:50
  Speaker 6: Because I remember like reading it online that there was
• 58:52
  Speaker 6: like a scare.
• 58:53
  Speaker 8: It was definitely a scare. It wasting it. It was
• 58:57
  Speaker 8: like a like a half hour that people didn't know
• 59:00
  Speaker 8: exactly what.
• 59:01
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it was. I remember seeing through the
• 59:05
  Speaker 7: all the trees, you know, all the people, and I
• 59:07
  Speaker 7: saw his knee buckle and him go to the ground,
• 59:10
  Speaker 7: and I thought for sure that he blew out his
• 59:12
  Speaker 7: knee again. And well, thankfully it was just a scare
• 59:15
  Speaker 7: and it they had nothing to do with that. But
• 59:17
  Speaker 7: I'll never forget that we were all just about to
• 59:20
  Speaker 7: you know.
• 59:21
  Speaker 8: I think Soldier may have gotten pushed back into Brady.
• 59:26
  Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, yeah, the details are escaping me. It may
• 59:30
  Speaker 8: not have been Tampa. I might be completely misremembering, which
• 59:32
  Speaker 8: is common for me. I think it was Tampa, But
• 59:35
  Speaker 8: I think it was Tampa. Say I want to say
• 59:37
  Speaker 8: Adrian Claiborne.
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: I think, okay, that's.
• 59:41
  Speaker 6: Who I was like, Oh, that's stupid guy.
• 59:43
  Speaker 9: But that was a that was a big thing. It
• 59:45
  Speaker 9: was like, oh is he is that?
• 59:47
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 59:47
  Speaker 9: Like everybody was worried and.
• 59:49
  Speaker 8: He came out with a knee and he was like
• 59:51
  Speaker 8: sort of chastised for not having his knee brace on.
• 59:53
  Speaker 8: It is that the last time he didn't when I
• 59:55
  Speaker 8: think that was the last time he was out there without.
• 59:56
  Speaker 9: His brace.
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: Sam from Say Catherine's writes in just a quick response
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: to Mike stating that coaches don't grow on trees.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: Coaches literally come from coaching trees.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 6: Come on, that's pretty good, dang it. I walked right
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 6: into that, shout out Bradley Amos.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 10: With Kendrick born down there.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I saw cold strange walk out on the
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 7: field of the hoodie as well. So in his family,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 7: he's doing some mental reps his baby.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 10: Kendrick's new baby.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: Uh Jake and Australia. Happy first day camp.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: Everyone talks about their surprise cut, but who would you
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: pick as your surprise make not including Thornton because no
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: p he's done. I'm being biased in mind as I
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: really just wanted Aussie to finally make it to the NFL.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: So Jotham Russell. Russell is my wishful surprise. Make that's interesting,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: don't your surprise make?
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 7: Does Jalen Hawkins at this point qualify.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 9: I don't think so.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 7: We saw him too much in the spring probably for
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 7: him to qualify.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 9: I mean, pick a guy.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 8: It's one of the running backs. Fenwick was talking to
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 8: him up earlier.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 10: Yeah, them, Caleb, I have a weird surprise, make one.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 10: But I feel like we're gonna end up keeping all
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 10: four quarterbacks, even if even if two of them ended
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 10: up on the practice squad. Okay, that's my surprise, end
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 10: up keeping all four.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean they don't really have the numbers to.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 9: Practice practice squad squad?
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, because I know.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 10: We talked a lot about will someone try to, you know,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 10: trade for Zappi or will we cut them or you know,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 10: what are we going to do with him? But it's
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 10: weird them all for sticking.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 7: Around the way the rules are now at the emergency
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 7: quarterback there's really no incentive to carry three quarterbacks on
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 7: the fifty three unless you feel like all three guys
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 7: can play, because you can now elevate the player from
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 7: the practice squad and make him the emergency quarterback.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 8: Which is funny that you bring this up, because that
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 8: was the whole thing last year the note day, I
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 8: had my roster projection and and basically it's all about
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 8: to me how they feel about May and are they
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 8: sort of comfortable with him playing whenever in the season
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 8: or do they want to sit him for a little
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 8: amount of time. We've talked about this all off season,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 8: So if you don't want him to play, I think
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 8: you need to keep Zapi around right in case something
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 8: happens to percent if you don't want Drake May to play,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 8: Otherwise they'll probably let go of Zapi. And I think
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 8: Milton goes to the practice squad for exactly the reason
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 8: that that Evan just said, Well, you would have thought
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 8: that I cut Tom Brady in year five. According to it,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 8: you could put one one detractor on Twitter, and admittedly.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 6: It was one, So I'm gonna call him out.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 8: So what like, I just think that he's not necessarily
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 8: paying attention to what I wrote. He just looked at
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 8: it and said, well, that's that's absurd, and I'm like, no,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 8: I wrote that this is all contingent on Drake May
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 8: and how fast they want him to play, and then
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 8: he's he follows back because someone else had written in saying.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 6: That he didn't think Milton would make it either, and.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 8: He attacked that guy saying, there's no way that arm
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 8: gets through waivers and he gets on the practice squad.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 9: Now, it's like that Arm made it through.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 8: Five plus rounds of the draft almost since you know what,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 8: like so why like last year Bailey Zappi made it
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 8: through waivers after playing games as a rookie and winning them,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 8: and he made it through through waivers. It's not like
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 8: out of the realm of possibility to get a guy through.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 7: Waivers, right, Yeah, So many of those quarterbacks you have
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 7: to think about when you bring in a quarterback, you're
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 7: starting him from ground zero with your system and you're
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 7: you have to catch him up on the fly and
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 7: there's no practice time to do it. So unless you're
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 7: really sure that this is a either a desperation move
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 7: like last year at times when they bring in Nathan
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 7: Rourke or something like that, and the you know, those
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 7: desperation moves have to are one thing. But other than that,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 7: you don't see teams pick up quarterbacks too often because
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 7: a period.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 6: Sorry, but yeah, that is. But it was funny because
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 6: Alex Austin and Marco Wilson, who have been getting you know,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 6: some looks, they were kind of over with the you know,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 6: the top defense and then all of a sudden, overcome
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 6: Gonzales and j Jones and like, you guys are on
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 6: the other side.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 8: So this is like, this is eleven on eleven if
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 8: you got Judon and gotcha both out.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: I just want to let our viewers know that this
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: is a portion of practice that we can't have our
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: cameras on.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 5: So that's why you're looking at us and not seeing
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: what's on the field.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 8: Oh I thought it was because you wanted to see me.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 7: So we have Big Mic at right guard currently not
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 7: at tackle, and Calvin Anderson playing.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: But Judon is out there, so that's a good indication
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: that he is going to take part in team drills.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 6: Godshaw as well.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, we'll see. I'll see when Pat's come on.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 8: But this is a good sign. But I think even
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 8: this stuff last year, I think that Judon did not
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 8: take part in Here's a guy to.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 6: Highlight though, you know, real quick, O'Shane Emmenez who is
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 6: who is over on the right side field with you
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 6: know some of the guys that that you would consider
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 6: the iron of this defense right now, So maybe you
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 6: talk about a surprise guy him Arman Watts over there
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 6: as well, free agent signing from Pittsburgh who we can't
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 6: expect to, you know, replace some of what Lawrence guy.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: Did poke with a catch.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 7: Marcus Jones is playing the slot right now on defense,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 7: but it looks like Drake may is he's over here,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 7: He's gonna watch and then probably rotated with you. Cooleyber said,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 7: you have Milton and Zappi with the two's on the
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 7: on the other field, so a little mental reps.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 5: So right now Drake may is leap frog to be
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 5: the backup quarterback.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 6: Let's mention for del Pettis too, del another guy over
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 6: there getting some looks with Peppers and Duggar.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but back to Judon, you know there are a
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: lot of players have a philosophy when they're in his
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: situation that they can tell me that you know, we'll
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: work on it, but until it happens, I don't believe it.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: Maybe this is a sign that Jude On has a
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: little bit more faith this year than last year that
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: we're gonna get something done, even though it hasn't happened yet.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe it's a little past deflection. Ye pick Kyle
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 6: Duggar on the Star.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 8: A nice played by Jonathan Jones. So yeah, that was
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 8: a bootleg. Godshaw came in car blanched to the middle
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 8: pressure Jacob were said into a rush throw tip interception.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 5: So start starts unless you're rooting for the offense.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 6: Or you're being sarcastic hunter Henry, that's what he does.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 6: That's lit all Yeah, check down him.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: So as promised, they're starting from the up uphill side
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: of the field.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah. So again, I mean you know that we talk
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 6: about how many receivers that they have. I guess it's
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 6: what twelve on the roster right now. And liberal rotation.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think everybody's gonna get a chance and
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 6: a look and right now, just example, Juju Thornton Polk
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 6: in the slot.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: Any do you find it interesting that they went right
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: to the pass and they're not going to the running
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: game first.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 7: They ran the ball in the first play.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, yeah, nick Levertt another name kind of keep
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 6: an eye on new guys.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: Speaking of an offensive lineman, Anthony from Hampton, Virginia says,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: do you guys see that Trent Brown was put in
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: the NFI list for the Bengals, will not be there
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: for the beginning of camp, will allow Mimes to possibly
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: jump him in the starting left town.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 6: By that, I mean I've heard. I mean, I don't
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 6: know what what trump.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: I know a lot of people said we should have
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: kept him as a band aid for a year, but
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: this just goes to show you that they made the
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: right decision to move on glad to not have to
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: deal with him anymore.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 8: I would agree wholeheartedly with that whole sentiment.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 6: So you have the Drakes in the play action checkdown.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 7: I'd like to know how the conditioning test went for
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 7: Trent Brown because it doesn't sound like.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 6: It went well well.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 8: NFI is conditioning test, just so you know, oh is it?
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 8: In general terms? It's not an injury. He probably didn't
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 8: pass the test. Now, I don't know what they do
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 8: in Cincinnati, Okay, And I'm not telling you that Antonio
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 8: Gibson failed the conditioning run here because I don't know
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 8: how Gerard Mayo does it either right, this is the
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 8: first time around for him.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: Scott and Virginia writes, and I haven't seen much content
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: or discussion on Keon White. What role do you guys
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: see him playing this year? I feel if given the opportunity,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: he will bring a whole other dominance to the front.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 5: Seven.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we talked about him a bunch in the spring.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 7: Is somebody that Gerd Mayo highlighted as a guy that
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 7: impressed him coming into year two. He was out there
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 7: as the edge opposite of judaon on that first couple
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 7: of reps with the one, so they obviously see him all.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 7: I think for him the biggest thing is is like,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 7: what what is your dominant trade? Like, what what is
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 7: your spot that you dominated? What are you great at individually?
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 7: Because it's cool to be this versatile chess peas type
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 7: of player, but you got to be able to be
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 7: very good at one thing. I think he's still trying
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 7: to figure out exactly, you know, where he lives permanently
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 7: in the defense. But he was out there and he's
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 7: He's been out there a ton with the ones here
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 7: so far.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: May had to bring the ball down and actually run
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: out of the pocket in that last play.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 9: It's not that I find interesting.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 8: They you know, they swapping out personnel and they have
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 8: a second offensive line in there now. But the last
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 8: couple of reps with the four replacement offensive linemen, Big
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 8: Mike stayed out there at right guard.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 9: He's just out.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 8: This is the first play he's out now, you know,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 8: with David Andrews and the rest of those guys that
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 8: were with the first group. So I thought I thought
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 8: that was interesting that he took a few extra reps.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 9: Yeah, draw going nowhere.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 6: It's that Harris.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: I like the way make hints, you know, the exchange
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: with the running back impressive.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 8: Good, good, good observation thread.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 6: It's like pop Douglas, like you see like a running
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 6: condition experens down the end, unless it's like he's running
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 6: with one of the trainers down there far in. Looks
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 6: pretty ghast.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 7: Guy's hands on his head. It is not a good sign.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 6: That's a.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 5: I wonder why he's doing that, trying to make him
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 5: go to rehab.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 7: I hope it's not good.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 6: What it looks like? All right, what we got here? Yeah,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 6: So I mean today, it's like, who's on the right
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 6: field to me? That's what's interesting. You know what guys
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 6: are kind of getting some mix with with the quote
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 6: unquote starters play action there.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 5: It is nice off platform. That's the off platform.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 8: This is like what I'm talking about with him, and
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 8: I know that I'm going to over rate this all summer,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 8: but he just makes that look so effortless, like it
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 8: it's a play action boot. He's gonna throw her on
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 8: the run. His feet are going to be in the
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 8: air when he's throwing it, and it's just looks better
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 8: it's on a line. When other guys that aren't as
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 8: athletic do that, it doesn't look like that.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 6: He looks I mean we've seen him already. How many
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 6: practice we watched, We've seen him do it, you know,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 6: three four times already, just look comfortable on the move,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 6: being able to pull up throw the ball.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah. That that's how it's on the whiteboard, right, like
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 7: hit the crosser off the play action. That that's exactly
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 7: how they drew draw it up and how it's supposed
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 7: to look.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 6: Like feed juju.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 7: Right, that was a nice, nice cut up there. That's
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 7: what you're looking a little bit, you know, Yeah, those
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 7: last two plays is that's that's how it's.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: Supposed a little bit because people can't see.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 7: So, yeah, you have outside zone, right, so you have
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 7: everybody moving forrizontally in a ninety degree to their left
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 7: or right, and and then you're setting up more ideally
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 7: cutback lanes through the middle of the field. And then
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 7: on the play before he fakes the wide zone, you know,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 7: fakes the stretcher on blue legs off of it, they
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 7: send Juju on a cross or coming in the other
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 7: direction and he just hits Juju over the middle for completion.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 7: So that's how it's gonna look when they try to
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 7: start to build this up and rep it over and
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 7: over again. Is you know, we're gonna run it. We're
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 7: gonna show you run. But really what they're doing is
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 7: they're trying to set up the pass plays off of
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 7: the action. To run is just more of a way
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 7: to keep the offense on schedule.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: Get guys to commit. It opens up up the middle
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: of the field.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 7: Yeah, the explosive plays are going to come in the
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 7: passing game. That's that's the goal. And you know, like
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 7: Paul said, all these actions where he's on the move,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 7: you know, Drake may is on the move. It just
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 7: looks natural for him, and that's what makes it such
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 7: an intriguing marriage between system and quarterback is you know
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 7: he can do those types of things effortlessly, and that's
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 7: why it was a good fit.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: In Van Pelt, Jared writes in from North Carolina, I
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: think people forgot how good our defense is. Plus we're
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: bringing Gonzo and judea on back from injury. I think
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: they'll be top five again.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 5: Offensive we don't need a quarterback to save the day,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 5: whether it's presett or may If the offense could just
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 5: score two or three times a game, we'll win a
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 5: lot of games.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: Over the past couple of seasons, we've lost a lot
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: a bunch of one possession games because of some missed
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: key plays. Do you guys think I'm being delusional or
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: that this team can be sneakily good if you surprise
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: the NFL.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 8: If you think that they can score two or three
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 8: times a game and win, then you're being delusional because
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 8: twenty points doesn't win a lot of games, just doesn't.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 10: Now. Now, if you're looking at last year's games, there
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 10: were a few games if they would have just had
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 10: a pulse on offense, yes, they would have won them. Yeah,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 10: one or two touchdowns, but overall, it's hard to win
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 10: in the NFL if you're not scoring thirty, right.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 5: Well three, And just remember those games.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: You know, the Colts were with Gardner Minshew, the Jets
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: were with.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 5: Not they didn't have a quarterback, you know.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 8: So once was Zach Wilson, once was Trevis Simeon. And
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 8: I'm not even saying like the defense isn't going to
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 8: do what you think the defense can do. They they
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 8: could definitely do that. I just think it's surprising that
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 8: you would say that people are overlooking a defense. I
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 8: think that's all anybody talks about.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: That's We talked to Aaron Shatz yesterday on our show,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: and his whole reasoning for the Patriots having seven games,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: which is three seven wins, which is three more than
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: last year's because of the defense.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 8: Right, And you could easily they could easily have won
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 8: seven games.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 5: Last year easily easily, Yeah.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 9: And not been any different of a team.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Like yeah, I just feel like even if they
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 7: win games like that reminds me of twenty twenty two,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 7: where they were in it technically until the end, right,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 7: I mean, they could have won in Buffalo and made
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 7: the playoffs. Yeah, but was that team good? Like, was
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 7: that yeah a product.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: That I'd rather win four games again this year and
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: end the season saying, Drake May had a good rookie season.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: We got something to build on here than win seven
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 5: or eight. And it's just because of the defense, yeah,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 5: and the offense.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean exactly, Like if it's if it's fourteen
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 7: to thirteen and they win six seven games, winning fourteen thirteen,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 7: it just doesn't it doesn't do it for me. I'm
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 7: not excited about that.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 10: There were so many times where if we weren't playing
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 10: and I was watching other NFL games on TV, it
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 10: was so crazy to see like actual offenses being front points.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 6: Being like I always let you know what I's crazy
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 6: when it hits me to matter.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 8: It is when I'm watching a game and there's like
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 8: seven or eight minutes left and one team's maybe trailing,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 8: and you're watching, You're like, oh, oh don't don't, oh
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 8: slow down. You don't want to score because not only
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 8: you know they're going to score to take the lead,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 8: you know the other team's then going to score to
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 8: win it at the end, exactly. And you never have
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 8: that feeling when you're watching the Patriots games, and.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 10: You don't want to turn the game off, like you
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 10: want to watch to see what's gonna happen because there's
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 10: so many between the elite wide receivers and the DB's
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 10: it's so much action happening. And then our games you
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 10: have to struggle to keep your eyes open.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 7: And nice throw over there by Jacoby Brisset and seven
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 7: on seven trying to get a number I think is
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 7: Austin Hooper a little stick nod, so he's gonna like
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 7: fake like he's gonna he's gonna come up the seam
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 7: and he threw it right over Marty Map Who's year?
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 7: Really nice throw there?
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 6: Who is the back safety?
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 12: Do you know?
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 7: I didn't see who the back safety was? No, but
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 7: he squeezed it in there.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 6: I see thirty two walking off. So it was fifteen
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 6: and thirty two. Yeah, I believe.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 5: So, yeah, this is this is uh not even seven
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 5: on seven right now? Yeah? It is?
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 5: Oh is it?
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 5: Looks like there are only six guys on offense.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 7: There is because the coach is the one snap.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 5: Oh I see, I got you?
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 6: Okay, all right, he's complicated.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 5: Centers need love to Yeah, even when they don't have
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 5: a jersey.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 6: It's a six on seven. Yeah, coaches don't count.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 7: It's been pretty involved in some of these, not all catches,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 7: but he did make a nice catch on the hitch
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 7: targeted on the go route. So he continues to be
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 7: someone that that looks the part. I would say, it's
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 7: not super flashy, but he's out.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 6: Here, gets his job done. And where has uh has
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 6: shaken Baker Man?
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah? I haven't seen him.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 10: Is that your nickname?
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 7: Prim?
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 6: I don't know. It just came to me. Maybe we'll
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 6: see if it sticks.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 5: Well.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 6: He has to shake hi, bake somebody first before I
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 6: can be shaking Baker.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 7: To Michael Petaway check, don't sleep on the Michael, don't
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 7: sleep on Maybe.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: It's Tim says.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 4: One of my favorite training camp memories when Brady was
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: signing autogreshs back when they used to do autograph alley.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 5: They still do that.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: My friend is an Eagles fan and wore his Michael
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: Vick jersey to the signing. Brady signed for everyone, then
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: looked at my friend and his Eagles jersey and purposely
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 4: skipped over him.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 5: It was hilarious.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: He was mad that Brady skipped him, but that's what
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: you get for doing for wearing that tree. That's so
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 4: Brady though, Oh yeah you know, but did you guys?
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 6: Sorry, fred, I didn't mean to cut you off. They
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 6: showed him signing jerseys, and then all of a sudden
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 6: there was an Eli Manning jersey and that he had
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 6: to sign that I guess was going back to Eli Manning.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 6: So he just wrote a big f off, and then
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 6: Eli got it and laughed, and Eli wrote back a
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 6: good game.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 8: So yeah, that's good, subtle little comeback.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 7: I haven't seen Pop Douglas, who is off with Jim
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 7: Whale and the trainer doing some stuff, and hopefully that's
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 7: nothing serious. And I haven't seen Javon do anything either.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 7: That might be Jon. He is all right, that's his
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 7: first rep.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 8: Drake not looking at this little checkdown that not even
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 8: looking at him.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 6: Don't even look out't look any shake and bake anybody
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 6: if you don't look out a.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 7: Couple of checkdowns in this sequence from Drake Man. I
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 7: think we should outlaw checkdowns and settle.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 9: It's just you should drive me crazy.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 8: Brady very rarely would have any down periods in these drills,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 8: but whenever he did, it'd be like maybe a pass
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 8: get picked and then maybe an incompletion you knew it,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 8: like a shallow dump down or a cross er to
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 8: like Edelman was coming. Yeah, he was going to complete
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 8: the next pass no matter what.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 6: Yep, pet Away with Juju Baker Juju andborn with Drake May.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 7: There's a lot of these little underneath you know, sit routes,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 7: return routes, things like that that they're throwing right now.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 8: Bolden Bolden, that's a little strap down after that play.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah. I like him. He's another one kind of keep
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 6: an eye on. I don't know how all these cornerbacks
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 6: are going to play out. Alex Austin, you know, seem
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 6: to come on. They seem to like him as a
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 6: guy who can play in the league.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 8: Markets Bolden, Dial some of the undrafted guys, keep an
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 8: eye on them.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 9: There's gonna be jobs to win.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 7: I like the idea of those guys competing in the
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 7: slot too, to maybe give them some more size than
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 7: they've had with you know, Marcus Jones, Miles Bryant. Those
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 7: guys are Marcus Jones good matchup player in the slot.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 7: But ideally, oh it's kind of step there. Okay, So
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 7: let's that one Jalener on a go ball from Drake
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 7: May one handed catch down the right sideline. That was
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 7: a bomb.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 5: That was a good catch.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 7: He was overthrown like maybe buy half a stride in
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 7: one headed catch.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 6: We're allowed to throw the ball that far school, showing
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 6: you why he's a special Yeah, they're not going to
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 6: put that in the tweet, so well, it's a.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 5: Former first round pick there, Paul, Come on, Yes, schooler
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 5: and school are and coverage and they're not going to
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 5: see that a lot.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 8: That's why they hate us, and you don't. We don't
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 8: provide the proper context.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 7: I'm going to put it in the tweet.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 5: Was a nice kidding You're not going to see school
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 5: or in terrific lot.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 6: I didn't think he's gonna catch up to it, that's why.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 9: But terrific one hander.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and and let's be honest, I mean Jalen Rager
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 6: pretty active in mini camp too. Yeah, for what it's worth,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 6: got some balls going again to Pulk. See that's usually
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 6: catch Pulk makes.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that was that was catchable. He dropped it in there.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: That was very Thornton like between two defenders and that
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: is May, by the way, that was.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 9: More difficult when you're covered.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's I mean, Marcella's dial good coverage on that rookie,
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 8: rookie rookie. But yeah, that's more than a few times
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 8: in those last year you see good JA time.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 10: I saw I saw some Zappi Our t shirts in
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 10: the crowds.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 5: Zappy Hour in Boston.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 6: It actually was about an hour. That's it's now we're
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 6: on Maytime. May Day. Zaps kicks it out too. I
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 6: still don't got these running backs down yet. Jim Michael Hasty.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 9: He's definitely comfortable as a receiver.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, aj And is in the from the Bay Area,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: but he's in Providence. Wants to know what the training
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: camp schedule is for the weekend. Uh, well, it's Tomorrow, Friday,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 4: and Sunday at eleven.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 5: O'clock off day, Saturday, off day, Saturday open. Don't come
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 5: down Saturday.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 6: No, but Gape's open at ten and there's Baker, isn't it's.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 7: He's deep, comeback or out. Yeah, that's one thing that
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 7: I think he does well is finished through contact. Like
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 7: there's not a ton of contact out here right now.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 7: But even if he doesn't create a ton of separation,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 7: whether he's going you know, elevating to go above the
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 7: defense or just boxing somebody out. He's got a good frame,
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 7: plays with good strength. That's all over his college tape.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 6: Too, say seven game the more run that the kid
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 6: David Wallace who made the team as like a tryout
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 6: guy in the slot. But this is everybody right now,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 6: all the all the linemen and defensive front eyes are
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 6: over FKA Dante's inferno.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 8: So that looked like a little bit of miscommunication with
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 8: Baker and yeah, Zappy. I think Zappy thought it was
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 8: going to be a back shoulder and okay, now see
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 8: I think Baker actually read it right because I thought
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 8: he had a step too.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 6: When I kind of said like, hey, have you kind
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 6: of like this year when we were like looking at
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 6: Joe Milton for like you know, scouting, I'm like, huh,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 6: he'd be kind of fun, like this is it right
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 6: now where I'm like, all right, four string reps, Like,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 6: let's just Joe.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 8: It's the fourth quarter of the preseason case yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 8: That's when I'm like, yeah, I'll.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 6: Watch him to see him rip it right right right.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 8: It's like that that drive that Malie Cunningham had last year.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 9: I'll watch that.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we have a helicopters, just bringing back
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 8: bad memories seven the helicopter coming in and training camp.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 6: Terrible Joe Milton, nice throw. It's a pretty I was
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 6: on time, yep. Pretty to uh come back to eighty two?
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 6: Key Shawan Harris, Hey you Jack Jackson? Oh the team anymore?
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 6: It'd be funny just keep throwing old names out there
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 6: early eighty two.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 9: That was right, Keysho Harris.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 6: And then wasn't your kid too that you were like
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 6: into the receiver?
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 9: He was seventeen dollars.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 5: So the owner was on the field, so that must
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 5: be Jonathan.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 10: He walked off about ten minutes ago.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 5: Okay, we'll see.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 7: If I got eyes.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 6: They sent the chopper to get him.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 10: Yeah, he walked off about ten minutes ago. It was
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 10: kind of sneaky, though, Fred, because when he walked out
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 10: he had on like that blue button up. But then
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 10: when he walked back this way, he had on a raincoat.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 6: Oh is it raining out there.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 10: Quite a little bit? I see a drop here and there?
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, all right, here and there.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 7: You saw you saw a schooler in coverage on Rager, right, Yeah,
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 7: it was absolutely school some say or some grousing in
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 7: the media tent about this, so oh so some say
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 7: is easy hear and some are saying, okay.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 8: I would just I would just argue does it really matter?
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 8: But the guy that was closest to him running down
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 8: the sideline was schooling.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 7: That's who I saw too, But maybe he was coming
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 7: over the top.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 6: We're higher guys where we got the view.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 5: As long as it wasn't Christian Goanzal.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 8: I remember, I remember thinking that's Bubba vent trone forty one.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 6: Joe Milton excited for a dump off pass there to
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 6: Hasty Pudding.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 5: And it wasn't one hundred miles an hour.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 10: It wasn't. I was gonna say that, Bred. I feel
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 10: like in those short passes, I feel like he struggles
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 10: because he doesn't know how to reel back on the power. Yeah,
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 10: but those actually were pretty good.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he looked let's see the bring out the bazooka,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 7: Joel Azoka.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 6: Joe, he's got a unleashed one here, right, Yeah, at
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 6: some point, take a shot.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 5: Guy, he's on the hill.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 6: I believe I might be twenty nine, which is Dyrell Jennings.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 5: At twenty nine.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 7: That's who I saw earlier.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 5: Milton's still at quarterback.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 6: It's a nice throw, yeah, right on time. Hit the
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 6: crosser up.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 7: They like that. Concepts like Phill O'Brien would call it inch.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 7: I don't know what they call it. But you have
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 7: like a little hitch underneath, and then you have the
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 7: incut come right over the top of it, and it
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 7: high lows the hook defender there in the zone and
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 7: he kind of has to pick you know which one
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 7: is gonna cover. And you often see that incut.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 5: Get it completed, all right, Matt morel Are we good
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 5: to take a break?
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 6: Oh, yes, we are.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 5: All right. Let's take a break. We'll fill you.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 4: In with anything that you might have missed, but we're
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 4: gonna take a break right now. We'll be right back
• 1:26:30
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  Speaker 4: while we were at break the teams in eleven and eleven,
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  Speaker 4: what did we.
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  Speaker 6: See early down work? Some work on the running game,
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  Speaker 6: some you know, base defense, you know, nothing too crazy
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  Speaker 6: so far, getting some run fits going. I mean, I
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  Speaker 6: think this is what we kind of anticipated, that they
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  Speaker 6: were gonna put some work in the middle of the
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  Speaker 6: field on the run game in early downs. And I
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  Speaker 6: think that's what we're seeing a lot of rotation. But
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  Speaker 6: you know, to Evan's point as we were getting back,
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  Speaker 6: I mean, when you seems like a brief kind of
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 6: move to right tackle early in the OTAs and now
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 6: he just seems like he's settled back in the right guard,
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  Speaker 6: which I'm all for. Like I did think that's where
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  Speaker 6: he's the best. Then, you know, I think that's the
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  Speaker 6: best fit. And if Calvin Anderson, you know who's getting
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  Speaker 6: to look at the right tackle right now more athletic.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, of all the players on the roster. Grant,
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  Speaker 6: he's not playing left tackle, but he's played more left
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  Speaker 6: tackle snaps I think in the NFL than anybody else,
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  Speaker 6: So he can move a little bit and I think
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  Speaker 6: he probably fits a little bit more into you know
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  Speaker 6: what Evan's saying. If as a right tackle who can
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  Speaker 6: move his feet, get out there, and you know, maybe
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  Speaker 6: he's a better fit. And that's why he's getting to.
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  Speaker 9: Look right now.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah. It just you're one hundred percent right, and I'm
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 7: I'm grousing about things I probably shouldn't grouse about. But
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 7: when you tell us in March and April that he
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 7: signed Mike on Winnu because he was the top right
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 7: tackle on the market, and then we're out here day
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 7: one a training camp and he's playing right guard, where
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 7: he should have been playing all along and is his
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 7: natural position. It's like, well, then you didn't sign a
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 7: top free.
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  Speaker 6: Agent tackle like it just yeah, the.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 7: Whole position was just didn't make any sense to begin with,
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 7: and us Layman's could see it from a mile away
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  Speaker 7: that this was not going to work. And now we're
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 7: already out here on day one and doesn't work and
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 7: that that that's the part to me that's frustrating about it.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 7: It's obviously the right decision, but it just how we
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 7: got here, Like, we didn't have to do that whole thing.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 7: Mike on Win, who's the right tackle. He comes in
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 7: in the spring, he tells us he's getting ready for
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 7: the season to play at right tackle, and then here
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 7: we are, like what was the point of that?
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 6: So that first one with Drake Mayon just to kind
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 6: of a tuck and run, look like you want to
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  Speaker 6: throw it quick. But unless unless you think Evan that
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 6: was a QB drop, No it wasn't.
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  Speaker 7: But the red Seas did part and so that's something
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 7: that he's gonna do.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, if he sees that.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 7: If he sees that green grass, he's just gonna take off.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, well aborted snaps.
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  Speaker 6: Mis guys, they don't take snaps under center.
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  Speaker 17: Freddy in college big adjustment to ball security. Took the
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 17: words right out of my mouth, Paul, this is something
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  Speaker 17: that we do have to monitor, and just a tiny
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 17: bit now. I think he does have Antonio Maffi, I'm
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 17: assuming is the center in this offensive right Maybe it's
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 17: nic Leverett.
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  Speaker 5: So we are getting a little bit of precipitation right now,
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 5: are you. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not saying that's why he
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 5: dropped the snap.
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  Speaker 6: But I mean, based on the schedule, we're probably coming
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 6: down close to the end here. That might only be
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 6: about ten minutes after.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah, maybe one more time through the four quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 5: We can't in practice without Chad Ryley.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 6: No, he's getting warmed up right now, him and Slider
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 6: going at it against the what do you call this, Paul,
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 6: the skinny the skinny post, the skinny jeans with a
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 6: skinny post.
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  Speaker 10: Skinny jeans, you know, skinny jeans, skinny posts.
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  Speaker 6: May I'm Cork's one into double coverage and it is.
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  Speaker 10: I remember we were, you know, talking about possible head
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 10: coaching candidates. Evan kept saying we need one of those
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 10: skinny jeans guys.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, all his offensive guys.
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  Speaker 6: It just squeezes the scheme from your legs up into
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 6: your brain and you're able to this.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 7: Drake made to Jalen Polk a post corner around just
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 7: couldn't connect on it, but he saw this single high
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 7: safety up the top and and he took the shot,
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 7: which is what you want to see.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 8: Try to keep an eye on, you know, all the
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 8: all the young guys, new guys. That's another good rep
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 8: for Marcella's dial on that play. Ye, he had really
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 8: good coverage again on Polk.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 7: Coming across those ones with Polk, you feel like they're
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 7: gonna take some time because you're gonna have to just
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 7: throw it into Polk's catch radius and trust that he's
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 7: going to make the play in traffic, Yeah, because he's
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 7: not going to run by anybody in the league at
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 7: four by four or whatever it was. So those ones
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 7: are are trust throws that he's going to go up
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 7: and get those.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 8: I feel the rain now, Truss, Yeah, did.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 6: You guys bring a slickers?
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 5: I'm just more worried about the equipment too.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 6: It's waterproof electronics. They do they define him, Yeah, they
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  Speaker 6: love water. Interesting in water chuydrophilic.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Breake may out there under.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 7: Center, Yeah, quite a bit of under center which you
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 7: would expect on early down work.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 5: Not looking good.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 6: Didn't come out of his hand.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 8: It was the nose of the ball down kind of throw,
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 8: looked like a guy hit.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 7: It was a Ken Dorsey throw, a little bit like
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 7: a little pressure in his face and just didn't get
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 7: into it.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 6: That's Zapi Hour, Sean Wade just running gassers here on.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 8: Yeah, he's he's done a lot of that.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 6: Side field.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 7: ZAPPI time, Zappy Hour. I do wonder at one point
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 7: in time we're gonna do away with some of these reps.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 5: That was.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 7: Her and who's gotten burned twice now by Jalen Rager.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 9: So it was at.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 7: Schooler was playing safety over the top on the first one.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 7: Zzy Hearn having his hands full with Jalen Rager aka
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 7: Randy Moss.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 6: Right well, and that's what I just, you know, I
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 6: wonder we look at that wide receiver depth chart. There's
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 6: so many guys and it's I just think there's so
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 6: many different permutations. That is it wrong to say that
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 6: Jalen Rager has no chance? Like, I don't think i'd
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 6: rule anybody.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 9: I also think, yeah, could you say that?
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 10: I also think with Reger too, he brings something special
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 10: with special teams as well, Like there there were times,
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 10: especially with Marcus Jones out that he was in that
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 10: special Thomas turned spot returning those punts.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 7: So Rega, I mean, we'll see what can help him
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 7: out when the pads come on. But right now, based
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 7: off the spring in this practice, which is granted not
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 7: a ton, it's hard to envision Jalen Rager off. It's
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 7: like he's he brings a speed threat. It translates more
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 7: than Taekwon Thornton's does to to offense. He has the
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 7: return ability, as Tamara said, like they need somebody on
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 7: the team that can run by someone offensively. It can't
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 7: all be you know, Jalen Polk's and those types of guys,
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 7: and pop Is obviously is a kind of his own thing,
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 7: you know, more of a jitterbug than he is like
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 7: a true deep threat.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 8: Pardona from forty I just have a time.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 7: Not seeing Rager got.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 10: Evan in that same breath. What's it gonna take for
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 10: Juju to not be on.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 6: This team, not to keep doing what he's doing?
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 7: Could play there by break.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 10: Up, But do you feel like Juju has to like
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 10: wow you every single day of this camp?
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 6: Well, he just needs to show up. I think that's
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's the hardest thing. And I mean, you know,
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 6: we mentioned Riger he showed up in ot As a
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 6: little bit. He didn't really see anything from Juju. And
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 6: I mean, regardless of you know, oh it's just ohtas,
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 6: it's certain guys make plays, certain guy find ways to
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 6: catch the ball. You know, we saw what. I don't
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 6: know if I didn't see any other Juju targets. And
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 6: granted tough play, but you know, he dropped it. So
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 6: it's you could tell me Rager Thornton and Juju make
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 6: the team. You could tell me Rager Thornton and Juju
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 6: don't make the team, and I wouldn't even bat an eye.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 6: I think it's gonna come down to a numbers game
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 6: and health for you know, guys like Born. If Born's
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 6: going to be ready to.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 8: Go at the start of the season, and how many
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 8: of you keep it other spots, Like initially right now,
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 8: I only kept three running backs. I think they'll probably
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 8: have a fourth on the on the roster. Does that
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 8: take away a wide receiver or you know, do you
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 8: do you just keep seven receivers.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 9: I love Marcus Jones.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 6: And I don't want anybody other.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 8: Than Marcus Jones returning anything as long as he's healthy.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 8: So if Rager does what he does, what he did today,
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 8: and he's you know, like to Evan's point, you need
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 8: someone who could run by somebody. That's his role. He
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 8: has a role on offense. I'm all for Rager if
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 8: we're keeping him, because we turned to kick for a
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 8: touchdown last year. I like Marcus Jones more than Rager
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 8: as a returner.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 7: Walk buddy stuff. Now you can keep on.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think you can make a case for any
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 9: and all of them. That's just the kind of all
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 9: the same to me.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 7: I hear you on Marcus Jones. And especially with the
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 7: new kickoff rules, you do need a little bit of
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 7: make miss. I think with this new rule it's gonna
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 7: be a little bit more like a punt and then
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 7: they kick off. Yeah, in that respect. And Jalen Rager
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 7: is your traditional kickoff returner where he's gonna go in
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 7: a straight line from zero to sixty in a hurry,
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 7: whereas Marcus Jones has that joystick about him that he
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 7: can dance around contact and things like that. So it
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 7: does suit Marcus Jones a little bit more. I just
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 7: think that having both of them back, there is a
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 7: possibility that we might see that they might.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 8: Use because you might need two kick returners. I did
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 8: think it was interesting that he compared it. It's like
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 8: more conducive to punt returns. The new, the new, the
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 8: new rules.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 6: One for one there on Drake may. I love whoever's
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 6: recording stats. I hope they're getting these ones that walk
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 6: through pace. Let them catch it, let them catch it,
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 6: one for one. And that hasn't just really gotten no,
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 6: but that literally was let him catch it.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 12: I mean.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 6: Another cats for Rager, great day for him. Guys are
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 6: walking by, Okay, I think we're lifting up. We have
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 6: lift off chopper. They got to the choppa and now
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 6: they're leaving.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think that's the owner leaving now right,
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 5: I assumes enough he said enough, We're gonna be good.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 9: We're gonna be good. I've seen enough.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 5: That long commute to Chestnut Hill, Fred, what what.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 7: Are you doing?
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 10: What?
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 6: So much time in.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 5: The Pockectually he's he's heading to New York.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 6: Ah, that's well, that way is probably that is New York.
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  Speaker 10: That way I have no sense of direction.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 6: Shelf, Well, this is the South end zone it is.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 8: I've worked here for twenty this is my twenty sixth
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 8: training camp. They describe the North and South end zone,
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 8: and I ask Fred every time which one is the
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 8: North end?
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 10: Same the same one game day, They'll be like, meet
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 10: me here for this like live hit, and I'm like,
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 10: where is that. They're like North end zone. I'm like,
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 10: which one's which?
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 6: Oh, we might be running. We might be running the hills, folks.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 8: This might be to me, North is that way and
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 8: the end zone's over there. I don't know why they
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 8: call it the North end zone.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 4: So I just want to remind everyone to stick around.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 4: We'll keep the show going because tomorrow is going to
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 4: be doing a one on one with a player right
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 4: from the field.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 5: We'll put a headset on him and.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 4: She'll talk to him, just kind of like what they
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 4: doing in baseball now with the manager and the dugout
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 4: and that type of thing.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 5: We're going to do the same thing with a player. Uh.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 4: Could be Dietrich Wise, could be Pop Douglas, We're not
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 4: sure at this point. We'll try to get the guy
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 4: who's available fast, uh, so that we don't have to
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 4: wait around that long. But right now they're heading down
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 4: to the hills and they're going to be doing a
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 4: little running conditioning. Run after practice.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 6: It's the worst part of every sport, right, So running
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 6: after practice.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 4: Your first day practice highlights, guys and girls?
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 5: What are we? What are we talking about?
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 10: To mere Star, I'll go first, which means I probably
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 10: get the highlight. Jalen Rager. I think he's my highlight. Unfortunately,
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 10: if I'm taking anyone's words out of their mouth, I
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 10: think he had a couple of great catches. Obviously, that
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 10: one down down the sideline where we don't know who
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 10: is defending him, we're up in the air and who
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 10: was defending him. But that one hand catch was my wow, wow,
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 10: I can't.
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  Speaker 7: I can't confirm it was as easy earn. As much
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 7: as we don't like to advertise people taking videos from
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 7: this stands. Yeah, the streets have the video.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 5: The streets have the video.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, so Scholo was just chasing.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 7: Correct deuce a favorite.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 6: How about the second Jaylen May I'm just gonna say
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 6: the highlight for me is just getting started. I mean, there's,
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 6: you know, the great catch by Tamara, But just to
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 6: get the first day kind of under your belt, get
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 6: a sense of how things are gonna kind of go
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 6: with Jerrod a little bit different, a little shorter here today,
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 6: but just get the train rolling, and now you know,
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 6: now as to start to build Uart. We want pads,
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 6: we want preseason, we want joint practice, we want the
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 6: regular season. It all starts right now. So that's that's
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 6: it for me, just getting going.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I would do so. I obviously there's we shouldn't
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 7: really jump to any conclusions based off of this one practice,
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 7: not in pads. But I guess we should just mention
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 7: that Jacoby Brissett let off everything as we expected in
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 7: Drake May right behind him, second in line, so that
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 7: that's how it's gonna be for the foreseeable future, I
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 7: would think. And I'm just curious to see at what
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 7: point do those guys start to double up in the
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 7: Bailey's appy. Joe Milton did get a few reps here today.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 7: Did those reps go away for QB three, QB four
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 7: and we start to see a lot more of Jacoby
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 7: Ressaid and Drake May than what we saw here today.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 8: I would say two things stood out to me. One is,
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 8: you know Judon talked, you know, in the spring about
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 8: not being happy the way he handled things last year
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 8: first day, both he and Godshaw were regular participants in practice,
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 8: so that stood out to me.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 9: And the second one.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 8: Is my overreaction, my daily overreaction to the athleticism that
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 8: Drake may possesses. I loved that play action boot Crosser
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 8: to Juju Smith Schuster.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 6: That was my highlight of the day.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 8: Plays that you could not run last year with the
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 8: personnel that you had at the position. So admittedly it's
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 8: a gross overreaction on one play, but I just love
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 8: the athleticism that he provides.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with everything that you guys have said.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 4: I'll add this is a really month day one, but
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 4: one that just kind of underscored some things.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 5: We're gonna do things a little bit differently.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 4: When they were warming up doing their stretching, you had
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 4: offense on another field doing their own thing and defense
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 4: they'd never done that before.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 5: They've always had, you.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 4: Know, got you know, the offensive defense on the same
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 4: side of the field doing it together. Something different. I
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 4: don't know why they're doing it. It's silly, but it
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 4: just to me, you know, we're going to try different things.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 4: We're gonna do it a different way, and I think
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 4: we're going to see more of that as we go
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 4: through training camp of Gerrodmeo and his coaching staff putting
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 4: their own thumbprint on how things are done around here.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 5: So we're not wrapping it up.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 4: We're gonna continue to tap dance as we wait for
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 4: a player to become available for tomorrow to interview.
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 5: I knew this was going to happen. Yeah, this is
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 5: my one fear.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 6: Hard timing.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just to get a player that quickly after practice
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 4: because you know they do things afterwards.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 6: So yeah, we'll.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 5: See how it goes.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 4: See the media gathering because there will be player availability
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 4: after practice with several players, uh speaking to the media.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think there's a pop Douglas was scheduled.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 9: We'll see.
• 1:47:18
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  Speaker 7: So it's Pop Douglas Hunter, Henry mike On WHENU Remandre
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 7: Jolie Tobai and Dietrich.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 6: Wise, Evan's got to get down to and be like, like,
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 6: you're just a guard.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 10: Am gonna say, I'm just doing my.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 6: Job wherever they want to put me. But I do
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 6: think it's a little interesting just to see Calvin Anderson
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 6: kind of emerging into that mix a little bit. I mean,
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 6: it's a little bit unexpected that that, you know, he
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 6: might be one of the guys at the right tackle side.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 6: But I do think it it just allows them to
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 6: play better. Like I just and when you re guard,
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 6: to me is the answer. And if Anderson's able to
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 6: hold down the right tackle spot, that to me is
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 6: the you know, Paul, we talked about the best five.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 6: That's where it is for me. I think I'm when
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 6: you've got a play inside.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I think he's a better guard than
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 8: a tackle, But I'm not sure, you know, to me,
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 8: it would come down to those the Caden Wallace's, the
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 8: Baderian Low's, the Calvin Anderson's. Are they better than City
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 8: so or whoever else you want? Nick Liverett you know
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 8: someone like that. You know at Guard, that to me
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 8: is where you're coming up with your five best you know,
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 8: he's Calvin Anderson better than City. So you know, assuming
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 8: when Strange is back, yeah, I think, well when Strange
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 8: is out, yeah.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 5: It looks like they're done with uh yeah, I can't
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 5: hear you, Evan. Looks like they're running as you as
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 5: they say, Let's see who's in the middle of that?
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 5: Is it? Is it Gerd in the middle? You can't tell.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 6: It's a big, big gathering. Good first day, guys, way
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 6: to work hard.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 5: Let's build on it.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 6: Well, you know that's the The thing that's funny though,
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 6: is like, you know, the end of practice, but you
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 6: realize that these guys are they're in the midst of
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 6: like a tough couple of weeks. I mean, they're gonna
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 6: be living here, They're going right into meetings, they're gonna
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 6: break down this practice. And I would be curious though,
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 6: I know, you know, Gerard said they moved the meetings
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 6: to the morning before the practice. Is he getting guys
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 6: out earlier? You know?
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 5: Is that?
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 6: I mean? Is this a thing where they're still here
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 6: toll like eight, nine, ten o'clock at night. Sure some
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 6: of them are quarterbacks that need to study all that stuff.
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 6: But you know, I just I wonder if the days
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 6: are maybe a little bit shorter on the tail end
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 6: than they were under Bill.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 6: Ye, players hanging out, fans hanging out, trying to get
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 6: some autographs.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the players will be coming in signing autographs as
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 5: soon as they're done with their huddle. And he looks
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 5: like they're breaking it up now. So we'll see who
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 5: we get to talk to tomorrow. Are you ready to marrow?
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 5: What do you? What do you? What do you say?
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 5: It's Dietrich Wise, what are you gonna ask?
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 10: I can't tell you that, because then why would a
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 10: new one stay answers. No, they're not here to hear
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 10: your questions.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 5: They're here to hear the questions.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 6: I don't even need.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 10: That's a spoiler.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 6: You have to wait and see, all right, hash tag
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 6: tea trick Wise, But.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 10: I feel like it's going to be Didrich, just simply
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 10: because we saw Pop Douglas running conditioning a lot and
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 10: not actually participating a ton in eleven or elevens.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 6: So I've noticed too, with Dietrich going back to OTAs
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 6: that he's been out here really early. Maybe like you know,
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 6: I don't think he was the first guy out here today,
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 6: but often what was City show was so but often
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 6: you know, Wise has been out here. You see him
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 6: down there working on hand placement, the techniques of you know,
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 6: playing defensive line. But I just think he's a guy
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 6: really emerging as you know, one of these new leaders
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 6: and seems to be embracing that role.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 10: I wonder how different it's gonna be without Lawrence Guy
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 10: for him.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 6: That's that's a good question.
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 10: Should lock him too. It's like not just like out
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 10: in the field, how are you gonna miss him?
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 6: But like he's yeah, no, it's I mean, it's I mean,
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 6: I think, uh, I think Lawrence Guy missed two games
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 6: in his time here, so you know, I know he's
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 6: a little bit of a throwback player, but he filled
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 6: a big role for them, and I mean he was
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 6: pretty reliable when he was here. So it's you know,
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 6: I don't think it's the especially as he was getting
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 6: up in age. It's not the hardest position to replace,
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 6: but it's just you know, those those guys that eat
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 6: up all those snaps and you know, just take the
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 6: wear and tear off the rest of the line too.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 6: I don't think it's a you know, just an easy
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 6: plug and play kind of replace. You're you're really hoping
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 6: that whoever's in that role is gonna be able to
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 6: be in it as as consistently as Lawrence Guy was, So,
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 6: you know, definitely one of the more underrated players of
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 6: the last few years that you know, did a lot
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 6: of the dirty work that these guys do on the
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 6: defensive line.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 10: I feel like him and Godshaw are guys that, like,
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 10: you know, you're not going to look on the stat
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 10: sheet and be like, oh my god, they've done so much. Yeah,
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 10: you really have to.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 6: Just yeahs in the field a unit. Part of what
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 6: I knew we heard new defensive coordinator Mark DeMarcus Covington
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 6: talked about plumbing last year that if you're gonna play
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 6: defensive line in New England, you're gonna have to be
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 6: willing to do the dirty work and to eat up
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 6: the blocks and you know, to allow other players, uh
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 6: to make plays. And you know that was something Lawrence Guy,
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 6: selfless kind of player up front that you know, I mean,
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 6: like Jeremiah Farms, he seems to be kind of in
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 6: the mix. To replace him, they signed Arm and Watts.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 6: He seems like an easy kind of plug and play.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 6: But you know, you just you wonder with Dietrich Wise
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 6: gotcha and and maybe Barmore. Now maybe that's that you're
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 6: starting three and you've got a little bit more pass
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 6: rush residence with Christian Barmore than you might have had
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 6: with Lawrence. Guy. You might be losing some consistency in
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 6: the run game though, something to consider. But overall, I
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 6: mean it's a good group. I think Daniel Qualley, we're
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 6: watching these guys walk off right.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 10: Now, is another guy I'm not underrated, you know what
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 10: I mean.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 6: He's like he's not a superstar, but he's a good
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 6: role player. Who can you know, again, eat some of
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 6: those snaps up and you know, allow the other guys
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 6: to to really do their things. So we're watching the
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 6: players slowly make their way off the field, and you know,
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 6: it really turned out to be a nice weather day.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 6: I kind of like, I kind of like the rain.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 6: It's nice and cool. We're gonna be pretty sweaty in
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 6: a couple.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 5: So the quarterbacks and some of the offensive guys are
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 5: still they're going to do some extra curricular work after practice.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 6: As Drake Mays wont to do, Fred, I mean that's
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 6: been him pretty much. Yeah, the whole camp hanging out
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 6: afterwards with whoever wants to catch some balls with them,
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 6: And yeah, it's gotta just gotta feel good. Check this
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 6: box off, get things rolling, you know, it's it's The
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 6: next few days will probably be pretty similar, but as always,
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 6: there's plays to be made here and there. You know,
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 6: you see little things that that stand out to you.
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 4: And yeah, I see our crack media staff making their
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 4: way out to the field corraling guys. So hopefully it
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 4: won't be too long before we have a player on
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 4: headset talking to Tamara.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 9: See what happened?
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 5: Happens here? No, I can't hear you.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 6: Now that's a little This is where everybody me enders
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 6: says low to the family.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 10: No, yes, okay, now I can hear myself. I want
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 10: to circle back to you, Fred. First of all, is
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 10: it bad that I can't see? Should I be able
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 10: to see or should I just look here?
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 5: No, somebody will tell you because I.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 10: Can't see, like the actual field, spot my spot down there.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 10: I could see the field. No, I'm too short. I'm
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 10: too short.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 6: You got that like an apple box?
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 10: I want to circle back to what Fred said earlier
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 10: about it being cold. Yeah, this was perfect weather, perfect weather.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 6: But are you're from the south though, your sense of
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 6: hot and cold is all warped.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 10: I will say, my mom and grandma are like, it's
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 10: cold here, like it's no humidity, like compared to Virginia.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 10: You walk outside.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 5: If you're a player, this is perfect perfect.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 10: I mean this is almost like Fallway.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 5: I bet you Gerard wishes it was like it was
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 5: a couple of days ago, you know, right, because it
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 5: was hot and humid here.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 10: No, but I will say Gerard walked out today with
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 10: this towel around his neck like ready to go, like
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 10: it was like ninety two degrees.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 5: Like the kid it just worked out because he was
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 5: sweat like.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 10: He always looks like that though, Yeah, that's true. Always
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 10: him and High Tower looked like they just worked out
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 10: all the time.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, we're still waiting for a player.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 10: Thank you.
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 9: That's all right.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 6: I can see guys, got your Milton's signing down there.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 5: It's a.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 6: Couple of mac Jones jersey. Sorry, not really nice, uh
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 6: Drake may Carolina Jersey. Really it was pretty sweet.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 10: Did Paul purposely bring a carolin on a hat for today,
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 10: for like good vibes for Drake May like he did.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 6: Actually, he loves Drake May. He supports. You should ask
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 6: him about it. It's entirely for uh, solely to support Drake.
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 6: I think he accidentally wore it to camp and like
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 6: everybody would not let it go. It would be like, oh,
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 6: Paul support May, Like I just went to North Carolina.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 10: That's hilarious.
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 6: And this is sad because I see my boy Jabrial
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 6: Pepper's going to the podium, So you're missing out hang
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 6: out with you can go down man, Yeah, alright, I
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 6: just I want to keep you going, you know, keep
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 6: some more energy going until.
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 10: You're giving us, keeping us company.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 6: All Right, I'm gonna go. Then.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 5: He can't help it. He loves the first one out there,
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 5: as as always is the case. Uh in training camp,
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 5: friends and families come to practice, and so you see
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 5: a lot of wives and girlfriends down there on the
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 5: field right now, Uh, some kids running around.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 10: Honestly, this is my favorite part of training camp.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they're just real people to me.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 5: The kids come out, Like.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 10: David Andrews has a new baby. No one asked about it. Yesterday.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 10: I was so mad.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 6: I was like, come on, Well, it's always fun. It's
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 6: always fun when you see like the Matthew Slater's swinging
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 6: his kids around. But it's always fun when you see
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 6: some of these kids who are like, yep, they got
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 6: they got those D one jeans. Like some of these kids,
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 6: like their hands are already bigger than mine and they're
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 6: about two years old. You can tell not long before
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 6: some of these kids are going to be making a
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 6: push in the toward the NFL.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 10: It's so good seeing Slater still out here. It feels
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 10: like nothing's changed, but.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 6: No, it must have. It'd be fun. So it was
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 6: his first day.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 5: Did you notice what he was doing during practice?
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 10: Because I know I have to watch it.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 6: I didn't really clock him too much, but I mean
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 6: I would really love to know. I mean, he's got
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 6: to be he's got to have the itch right now,
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 6: right like he just like it's got to be like
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 6: this is when it hits you.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 10: Like Fred, we should have added him to the interview list.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 6: He would agree that would be a good interview just
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 6: the first day.
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 10: Yeah, because because this is the first time.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 6: On the other side, it's so many guys that I've
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 6: talked to, like you know, retired players all levels of football,
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 6: and the thing that they all kind of mention, especially
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 6: in the training Camberly on smell the grass. Smell the
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 6: grass and start a training camp. That that's like the
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 6: thing that you know. And for Slater, I imagine going
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 6: out there, He's like, man, why aren't I working out
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 6: with my guy working on covering kicks, like you know,
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 6: just doing his own thing, whole tutoring session.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 10: And just coming out and hearing the fans like cheer
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 10: and yell your name out and numbers and like wait
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 10: after practice for your autographs. It's like, yeah, there's nothing
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 10: like that.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and do we have eyes on d wise? Is that?
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 5: Well? I'm also run for where or who will have
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 5: the headset to put on the player? Like where is it?
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 10: I think it's right there? Okay, do you see where
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 10: Steph is? It's like the very first podium.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 5: Okay, if you look to the left, there's.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 10: A camera guy and a person with a headset.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, there you go.
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 10: Now that I have an Apple box, I can see everything.
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 5: Okay. Yeah, he's standing there at the camera right, so.
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 10: That's arms crossed.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 5: That's where it's going to take place.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 6: They're ready, they're waving.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 5: So we got to get a player over there, okay.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 6: And I don't see ninety one. Let's maybe he's signing.
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 6: Ninety one is a man of the people out, he's out.
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 5: But if he's signing, we should get somebody else.
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 6: No, I don't see him. That's true too, I don't
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 6: see him anywhere. But yeah, why do you see Stacey
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 6: walking over to the Romandre?
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 5: Oh, maybe we'll get Ramondre Stevenson.
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 10: Whenever I hear Remandre, I think of that miked up
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 10: David Andrews when he's just walking down the sideline screaming Andre.
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 5: So good.
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 6: All right, guys, this is where I leave you. I
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 6: am gonna go down and catch some of these interviews.
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 6: So hopefully you're not waiting too long.
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 10: But you have to get down there fast enough to
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 10: ask Ja brill Pepper's a question. There you go, just
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 10: the two of us, Fred.
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, now he's Remondre stopping to say hello to somebody
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 4: and their kids, and.
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 5: You're really creepy. We're on player time, we are, We're
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 5: on player time.
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 10: I'm used to this, though, Fred. I feel like for
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 10: our TV show, I have to like just wait, hurry
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 10: up and wait.
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 10: But It's worth the wait every single time.
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 4: This is something new we're trying. We've never done this
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 4: before after our live broadcast for Camp. We've never done
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 4: the player right from the field. So okay, let's see
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 4: anyone getting closer.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 5: There's Dietrich. Oh no, that's not Dietrich. Wise Okay, big
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 5: MIC's going to the one of the podiums. M.
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 10: It's a good trio. Pepper's big mic. And is that.
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 5: Scott Zolac. We don't want to interview Scott. No, no,
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 5: I'm only kidding. What's he even doing?
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 10: He's like speed walking. He is coming to be interviewed.
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 10: This is a great spot to people watch.
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 5: All right. I don't know who they're going to get.
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 5: This is going to be a mystery up until the
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 5: point where somebody walks up to that camera.
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 10: It might be Matisse.
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 5: We shall see.
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 10: Fred. What's the longest practice that you've been to? Oh,
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 10: since you've been here?
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 4: Well, we used to back in the Bryant days, we
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 4: used to do double sessions, so no break. Well, you
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 4: go in the morning and there'd be a practice for
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 4: like two hours, and then you go have lunch and
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 4: you know, you follow your stories after that practice. Then
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 4: you come out in the afternoon and be another two
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 4: hour practice.
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 10: Do you feel pads by the way, do you feel
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 10: as though the first one was always way more productive
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 10: than the second one or were they about the same?
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's a good question. That's a good question. I
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 4: would say, yeah. I would say that the morning practice
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 4: was probably tougher. You know, but back then, man, you know,
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 4: Ted Johnson would be your middle linebacker and Sam Gash
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 4: was your full back, and they would do these running
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 4: plays and they would be hitting, hitting, I mean, you
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 4: don't see that anymore.
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 5: You don't see that anymore.
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 10: Do you think it had a positive impact on how
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 10: the season went having practices like that or do you
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 10: think the way it is now is better? For how
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 10: many games did they play?
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 5: I don't know. I listen.
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 4: I think that there were bigger hits back then in games,
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 4: but you know, were there less injuries more injuries?
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 5: I think the injuries are the same. I mean, that's
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 5: kind of the point is.
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 4: That you know, most of these bad injuries that you
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 4: see players have, it's not from the contact. It's those
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 4: non contact injuries that you know, knock guys out for
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 4: the season. So I don't think there's any to me.
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 4: I don't think there's any findings that say that, oh,
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 4: back then it was better or now it's better. It's
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 4: just different, that's all. Now you might say that maybe
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 4: the quality of play in the start of the season
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 4: isn't as good as it used to be because guys
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 4: were probably ready to go faster back then. That's true,
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 4: but then as the season progresses it probably levels out.
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 10: And how many games were they playing though, well, for.
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 4: The most part it was sixteen, but I think back fourteen,
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 4: I think stopped.
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 5: I forget what year it was, but it was before
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 5: I started.
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I can't imagine like them having a two a
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 10: day now, No, especially in this heat. Not today obviously, but.
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I could see them doing pads in
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 4: the morning and then you know, shorts in the afternoon.
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 4: But yeah, they would never do two a days anymore.
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 4: Those days are gone.
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 10: And we're fans at both of those.
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh wow, oh yeah, yeah. Yeah.
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 4: There was one we were at Brian College and it
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 4: was the afternoon session and I remember there was this
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 4: fan and he had full uniform, he had the helmet pads,
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 4: you know, obviously he bought it himself.
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 5: And he's like pacing back.
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 4: And forth on the sideline and I'm looking at him
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 4: for the whole practice and how like he's up to something.
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 4: Sure enough, practice ends, he jumps the rope and starts
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 4: sprinting up and down the and he was pretty fast.
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 4: He starts sprinting up and down the field and the
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 4: security runs out and they get him. But he thought
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 4: that he was going to impress somebody and make the team.
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 4: That was his thing, and it was so funny. But
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 4: I remember watching him and saying, he's.
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 5: Going to do something. He's up to something, And sure enough,
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 5: he jumped the rope and started doing sprints up and
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 5: down the field in full uniform.
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 10: See when you first said he jumped the fence, I
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 10: was like thinking, Okay, so he gonna run out and
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 10: try to like talk to people on the team. But no,
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 10: he ran sprints.
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 5: No, the team had already left the field.
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 4: Practice is over and he just it was a rope
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 4: and he just jumped the rope and started doing these sprints.
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 5: It was the funniest thing.
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 10: You've seen it all friends, Oh.
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we still don't have a player.
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 10: See David Andrews walking, But I feel like he probably
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 10: has to go of the podium.
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 5: Yea with Aaron, So that could be the guy.
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 10: That could be the guy. Yeah, which I wouldn't be
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 10: mad at you.
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 5: You're good with that. David Andrews if he's the person.
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 10: No, No, he's he's walking.
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 5: He's walking by Mandri is going to putium.
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 10: David Andrews is walking still.
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 10: I also can't see, like where is d Church?
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't seen him.
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 10: Do we know who my point of contact is for
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 10: getting said person?
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 4: I thought it was one of it was Aaron A
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 4: little inside baseball people don't know who we're talking.
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 10: Yeah, who is that?
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 10: Look at Gonzo? Do you see him? No, running along
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 10: the fans like high fiving each a. He's still going.
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 10: Joe Milton did a backflip.
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 5: Okay, all right, here comes.
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 10: Is someone coming up.
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 5: Austin Hooper's a big guy, he really is.
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 10: I was looking at him trying to figure out who
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 10: that is.
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 5: He's a big guy for uh.
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 10: Not a lot of special teams work today, frid No, No,
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 10: we didn't see any of that. I was a little
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 10: bit shocked though. That's like we're going to spend some
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 10: time doing that because they did. I feel like during
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 10: mini camp a tone, but.
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on me either.
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 4: Well, I apologize for the delay everyone, but I thank
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 4: you for holding on. Maybe we'll get somebody in the
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 4: next minute or so. Up Here comes Dietrich. I see him,
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 4: you do.
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 10: Yeah, Oh, I see him too.
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 4: So I think he's headed toward our camera. So get ready, tomarra, yep,
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 4: here we go. First he has to say hello to somebody.
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 4: Now he's putting his helmet down and we are on
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 4: player timeup Here he comes. They're gonna bring them up.
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 4: I see them putting a headset. I'm gonna let you
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 4: take over here, Tamaron.
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 11: I don't want say anything, so you're good.
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 10: Yeah, Hey Ddrich, how are you? First day of school
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 10: under head coach Gerard Mayo. It's the first day of
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 10: training camp.
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 5: How was it at first day? Was great?
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 11: The rain didn't about it at all. We came out
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 11: here with really good energy starting off. They one really good.
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 11: Everybody got after. Everybody hustled around and it turned out
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 11: to be a good result.
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 10: One of the big topics of training camp this year
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 10: is the star time, which is eleven am. Gerardmeo said
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 10: he wanted to have meetings first and then come out
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 10: here on the field. How did it impact you from
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 10: your perspective, God's.
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 11: Prepared to start the day right. It didn't impact us
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 11: too much. It's very similar to how the season goal
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 11: when we have twelve o'clock games, so it's one of
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 11: those get up and goal type practices and nine to
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 11: eleven didn't you phases too much? But you came right
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 11: here and we got it done.
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 10: You're one of the longest tenured players on this team
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 10: to Church, you have a lot of wisdom. What was
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 10: it like for you to come out here for training
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 10: camp this season?
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 10: How different was it?
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 5: It was?
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 11: Actually wasn't really that big of a difference. I feel
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 11: like I kept the same routine I've been doing for
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 11: the last eight years. It's pretty awesome to come out
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 11: here for my eighth year. See a lot of new
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 11: faces every year, but everybody has the same goal in
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 11: the same same attitude, and that's to get better.
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 10: You don't have Lauren's guy out there in the trenches
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 10: with you anymore. I remember coming to your locker and
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 10: he was always right alongside you every single time we
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 10: saw you. What's the impact like without him?
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 11: So it's a lot different. I'm the older guy now
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 11: in the room. He uses the older guys sharing all
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 11: the wisdom. So I guess I took that job over
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 11: and now I'm sharing wisdom and sharing my knowledge of
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 11: the game.
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 10: Who would you say, from a younger guy perspective, is
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 10: maybe working to fill those shoes that he once had.
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 10: Say it one more time, who would you say, from
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 10: like a younger guy perspective in your room, that's taking
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 10: the shoes that Lawrence guy once had.
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 11: Uh, Well, the younger guys don't have a lot of
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 11: wisdom as Lown's guy. Uh So in that's case, nobody,
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 11: but I guess the other d tackles that that that
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 11: was behind Lawrences guy, armand Watts, Christian Balmore, uh Daniel Equal.
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 11: Those guys doing a great job.
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 5: Tristan Hill.
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 11: Those guys doing a great job playing three techniques and
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 11: filling in the roads that Lawrences guy was once was.
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 10: Well, I appreciate you taking the time with us. I
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 10: know you have a very busy day ahead of you,
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 10: and we really appreciate you giving us the insight on
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 10: the first day of training camp.
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 5: Day all right, all right, thank you Dietrich, thank you Tamara.
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 4: That's going to wrap up our coverage of the first
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 4: day of training camp here at you Let's Stadium. Appreciate
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 4: everyone watching, emailing and getting involved in the show.
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 5: We will be back tomorrow at.
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 4: Eleven am, same BAT time, same bat channel to do
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 4: it again, and that'll be number two day for training
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 4: camp and we'll see what happens tomorrow.
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 5: You're going to be in shell, so a little bit pace,
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 5: we'll pick up a little bit. We'll see you, then
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 5: see you then.
• 2:11:30
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