Latest / Unspoken Career Truths / Feedback Week! Part 2: Give feedback like it's a gift
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- 0:00Welcome to Unspoken career Truths.
- 0:02I'm Lauren Levec Gilbert. And I'm Cara Wood.
- 0:06And we're here to be the Co workers you can trust.
- 0:09In just 10 minutes, we'll cover the strategies you need, the
- 0:12mistakes to avoid, and the insider secrets no one tells you
- 0:16so you can show up with confidence at work.
- 0:19Today we're talking about how to give feedback.
- 0:22If you haven't already, check out our episode.
- 0:24Earlier in the week we talked about how to receive feedback
- 0:27and now we're talking about feedback, what to give and when.
- 0:31What is the purpose of feedback? Feedback is to help the other
- 0:35person. It is actually not about you.
- 0:36This is. A great call out.
- 0:40And I think that's sometimes hard because when you are maybe
- 0:43in charge of a team or a project and someone's not doing what you
- 0:46want them to do, or you're training someone and someone's
- 0:49not doing the thing that you're hoping they're picking up on,
- 0:52it's really frustrating to not get the immediate outputs that
- 0:55you want. And so you can sort of be like,
- 0:57you need to do this thing so that you perform for me, but
- 1:01take a beat because the feedback is for them to get better and to
- 1:05understand where you're coming from.
- 1:07But I also think that's a great gut check for the person giving
- 1:10the feedback. Like when you're giving the
- 1:11feedback, before you give it, make sure that it's clear that
- 1:14it's about them and it's value add to them.
- 1:17Maybe if you have to have an emotional moment where you're
- 1:19like, wow, like this is bothering me or this is
- 1:21affecting me, have that separately and then just gut
- 1:24check that it will be valuable and helpful for their growth.
- 1:28Yes, exactly. Because at the end of the day,
- 1:30absolutely you want the outcomes that you want, but you are only
- 1:34going to get them if the person that you're working with can
- 1:38understand what you want from them and, and, and accomplish
- 1:41it. So there's some tactics.
- 1:43You mean a? Positive sandwich.
- 1:44It's. Positive.
- 1:46It's a YEAH compliment sandwich. Compliment sandwich, Yeah.
- 1:49Compliment sandwich, you compliment, then you tell them
- 1:51what you want them to hear and then you and then you compliment
- 1:55them again. We should throw that a little
- 1:57bit out the window. I think there's two things that
- 1:59can go wrong with them. First of all, people can hear
- 2:03the compliments and not hear the negative.
- 2:04That has happened to me when you go through those sandwiches and
- 2:08also they can they, they can kind of see it coming because
- 2:12it's a formula that we all use. And then your compliments when
- 2:14they're real, don't fall the same way.
- 2:17You kind of want to compliment people when they're doing a good
- 2:19job. And that's a kind of feedback as
- 2:20well. And you want to tell them
- 2:22whether or not. So there's another framework.
- 2:24It's called core and folks might have heard of it.
- 2:26Essentially it's context, observations, results,
- 2:30expectations. So you give people, hey, you
- 2:32know, I saw this thing happen and then what you saw.
- 2:36So in the context of like we were at in the in our last
- 2:39meeting or in your, in your, you know, in your last six months of
- 2:42performance, whatever the framework is when you're doing
- 2:46this kind of task and then the observation, what you are
- 2:49noticing and then the results that you were hoping.
- 2:52So I don't think that meeting went as well as you thought or I
- 2:55was, I think you were hoping, you know, what were you hoping
- 2:57from those that meeting? I was hoping to move this sale
- 3:00forward and then the expectations going forward of
- 3:03like I am hoping you can XYZ like change how you address
- 3:08people in a meeting or prepare for a meeting, understand the
- 3:13account that you're representing, for example, a
- 3:15little bit better so. I love frameworks.
- 3:18It just helps you think through things.
- 3:19It simplifies it. And I think something you said
- 3:22right before this is also really important to remember.
- 3:25And that's that people think about feedback in a negative
- 3:27connotation, but it doesn't have to be, It can also be positive.
- 3:31And you should think about giving positive feedback to your
- 3:33team too. And you can say, when you did
- 3:35this thing, I saw that you did this, the team really responded
- 3:39like, I really applaud you for doing that, right?
- 3:41So that they're we're focusing on giving feedback that might be
- 3:45a little bit more uncomfortable or that might be kind of
- 3:49challenging to talk about. But just not to discount,
- 3:52positive feedback is also super important and really valuable.
- 3:55And you should think about infusing that into how you're
- 3:58managing your team and working with your Co workers too.
- 4:01Yeah. And I actually think there's
- 4:02like potentially a third kind of feedback, which is this feedback
- 4:05where they didn't get the outcome that you want, but you
- 4:07maybe don't understand the full. There's some answers that either
- 4:11you don't know how to solve it for them or you don't know what
- 4:14they were thinking. And that's the time to actually
- 4:18get kind of curious and force the person who you're giving
- 4:21feedback to, to sort of teach you what where they were coming
- 4:24from. So to say, you know, instead of
- 4:25just being like, that didn't go well to be like, you can still
- 4:29say and that didn't go well, but what were you trying to
- 4:32accomplish? Or like, if you're surprised
- 4:35that they're taking a certain tactic, like ask them where
- 4:38they're coming from because it might be something that you can
- 4:41brainstorm and solve with them together.
- 4:43So again, you might not even necessarily know, like it feels
- 4:45like negative feedback still because you're not getting the
- 4:47outcome that you want, but they they might be coming at it from
- 4:51the the right place. And remember.
- 4:54Everybody's human, so everybody's going to react
- 4:55differently and can feel like it is a attack and or some people
- 5:02might feel like it's an opportunity.
- 5:03So also level set expectations about when you say those things,
- 5:06how people react. When you're giving feedback,
- 5:09you're human too, and it's actually very difficult to
- 5:11deliver bad feedback. And so think about the examples
- 5:16you're going to use and think about how specific you can be so
- 5:19that you can arm the person with exactly what is going on.
- 5:23It also allows you to make it more about what's happening and
- 5:26the outcomes that you both want to achieve versus them or how
- 5:30they've approached something or, you know, who they are as a
- 5:33person. You never wanted to be about
- 5:34that. Yeah.
- 5:37And so, and I think like the last thing that I want to talk
- 5:40about a little bit is just sort of how good feedback can really
- 5:45help someone grow in their role. And so, you know, you just, you
- 5:51talked a lot at Lauren already about like praise, but like
- 5:54praise not only what the person's doing well, but also
- 5:56praise their potential and what you want them, you want to see
- 6:00them do. So even when you're, you know,
- 6:02saying, gosh, like I have to give you feedback on this
- 6:05because here's what was happening that I didn't want as
- 6:08an outcome, but I think you have the potential.
- 6:12Or I think if we do XYZ, sort of already prepping to come up with
- 6:16a game plan. It's something that you want to
- 6:17build with the person you're giving feedback to, but also
- 6:21kind of thinking about that, paint the picture and make that
- 6:23aspirational thing. Because overall, like
- 6:26empowerment is going to help someone.
- 6:28Shame is one of those emotions that shuts everybody down.
- 6:31It makes it really difficult for anyone to move forward after
- 6:34they've been shamed. I, I agree with you and, and I
- 6:37think something that could be helpful to encourage those
- 6:42conversations is to also have a set schedule for feedback,
- 6:46right? Like I've worked at many
- 6:47different companies and some of them have very clear feedback
- 6:52timeline. So each quarter you got feedback
- 6:54from your manager and then you had like a year end review.
- 6:58I've been at companies where it happened the beginning of the
- 7:01year, end of the year, like figuring out what that cadence
- 7:04is and then putting the time on the calendar because it helps
- 7:08set a cadence. It helps you prepare.
- 7:10It helps the person receiving the feedback to prepare and
- 7:12knowing that they're coming into this conversation, preparing for
- 7:17feedback, preparing to discuss it.
- 7:19That doesn't mean obviously you don't need to address feedback
- 7:22that might come up while like during every day, But if you
- 7:26have specific times that you've set where it's like, Hey, we're
- 7:29going to do a mid year review do or we're going to do an end of
- 7:32year review or hey, let's chat about your goals or what you're
- 7:36trying to achieve. Putting that on the call
- 7:38calendar is better for both of you.
- 7:40You can be prepared as the feedback giver and then the
- 7:43feedback receiver can also put themselves in the right mindset.
- 7:47And even if you're the feedback receiver, feel comfortable
- 7:50putting that on the calendar with your, with your leadership,
- 7:53right? Say hey, like, I really would
- 7:55like to get feedback more regularly.
- 7:56Can we set up some time and let's put it on the calendar?
- 7:59Every company that I've worked at, there's this Holy Grail of
- 8:02like, gosh, we should dissect how the project went and we
- 8:05never talk about how the project went.
- 8:07We just move on to the next project.
- 8:09And I would say I'm like putting the challenge out there to the
- 8:11world, like putting feedback at the end of every significant
- 8:14project would actually be a really powerful thing, you know
- 8:18what I mean? So Lauren, to your point,
- 8:20schedule the feedback when you want it.
- 8:22If you're working on something new, ask the person that you're
- 8:26working with for feedback, or decide together when you're
- 8:29gonna discuss feedback for each other.
- 8:32It's really powerful, so. That reminds me a lot actually
- 8:34of events and event planning. So if you think about you're
- 8:39hosting a really big event, something that we found to be
- 8:42really helpful is like you do a post event survey for the people
- 8:44that attended the event. And then what you do is you
- 8:47actually like create a document and have everybody throw their
- 8:50feedback into the document immediately after the event.
- 8:54You don't have to have the conversation immediately after,
- 8:56but people forget once they move beyond the project, the event,
- 9:00whatever it is, create a document, drop it all in, then
- 9:04set up the time to kind of talk about it.
- 9:06But it's really important to capture both, like if, if it's
- 9:09an event or if it's a meeting or something like that, the people
- 9:12that attended as well as the people that planned and do it at
- 9:15the right time. Like I love your idea about the
- 9:17project. Like at the end of the project,
- 9:19you have the most clarity to understand what went well and
- 9:23what went wrong. If you if you wait for too long,
- 9:26you kind of either forget or maybe your memory changes about
- 9:29things. So just kind of creating that
- 9:31cadence for projects, for events to do the survey, gather the
- 9:35information and then talk about it and then it improves the next
- 9:38time you do it. Yeah.
- 9:39And what you're talking about is honestly like amazing in two
- 9:43ways. You're normalizing feedback.
- 9:44Everyone has feedback to give on the event they were a part of,
- 9:48and you're also gathering the data that you need to be really
- 9:51specific about what went well and what went wrong.
- 9:54Yep, 100%. Yeah.
- 9:56So to recap, remember number one rule, it's about them and their
- 10:00growth. It's actually not about you.
- 10:02So make sure that you've done your homework, gather the data
- 10:05that you needed, and given feedback in a way that's going
- 10:07to support the person who's hearing it.
- 10:10And that could also be communicating with them on what
- 10:12they prefer, having something on the calendar ahead of time,
- 10:15having written documentation, like knowing what kind of
- 10:17feedback it's going to be. Some people like to look at
- 10:20notes ahead of time, then, you know, be clear, provide
- 10:24examples, set that contact sets that core instead of the
- 10:27sandwich. Just think of an apple core.
- 10:29You want context, observation, results and expectations.
- 10:33And then I think another key thing is, you know, discuss your
- 10:36feedback strategy. So whether that's how often are
- 10:38we going to get feedback as a team or whether that's after you
- 10:40receive feedback, what are we going to do next?
- 10:42Just so that you don't your your feedback doesn't just hang out
- 10:45there in the ether. I love it.
- 10:48We hope that you feel better about giving feedback and also
- 10:52hey always want to hear some funny stories about feedback so
- 10:54feel free to share them. That's a wrap.
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