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Bonus Episode: Mafia Murders and the Music Behind Them · DISGRACELAND

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  Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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  Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too.
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  Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
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  Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.
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  Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after
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  Speaker 1: the party. The bridge to get you from one full
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  Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard, to dig
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  Speaker 1: into the dirt. Our mission, as always, guys, to uncover
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  Speaker 1: the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story.
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  Speaker 1: On this bonus episode, the music from the Mob movies
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  Speaker 1: with the real life hits okay, as inspired by this
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  Speaker 1: week's full episode on Adele in her love of al Pacino,
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  Speaker 1: plus your voicemails, texts, emails, comments, dms, and as always,
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  Speaker 1: a whole lot of Rosie. This is the podcast with
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  Speaker 1: the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know
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  Speaker 1: that the best history is the history that gets buried.
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  Speaker 1: Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told,
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  Speaker 1: the kind that you'll end up telling someone else. All right,
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  Speaker 1: this goes, let's get into it, okay. So in this
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  Speaker 1: week's episode of Disgraceland, as I just alluded to. As
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  Speaker 1: I just mentioned, we talk about Adele, and part of
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  Speaker 1: her story revolves around her love of al Pacino movies
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  Speaker 1: gangster movies, to be precise. I share this trait with Adele,
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  Speaker 1: as I'm sure many of you do as well, but
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  Speaker 1: specific to Italian movies. Italian gangster movies. For some reason,
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, after my wife and
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  Speaker 1: kids have fallen asleep, watching violent sociopaths navigate their way
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  Speaker 1: through a secret society to deal with their problems, it
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  Speaker 1: relaxes me. I don't know why. I do not know why.
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  Speaker 1: I I've always been into gangster movies, specifically Italian mafia movies. Lately, though,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's become I don't I don't know it's it's
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  Speaker 1: it's I've gone deeper and deeper and deeper, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: even watching straight up garbage, just looking for historical nuggets
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  Speaker 1: that I can mine and that I can connect in
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  Speaker 1: my brain, like, oh, that's based on this thing that
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  Speaker 1: was based on this other thing that I learned from
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  Speaker 1: this thing. And I've watched all the good stuff, I think,
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  Speaker 1: and now I'm watching the trash Uh, I don't want to.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to call this show trash because that's unfair,
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  Speaker 1: it's unfair to the filmmaker or the showrunner. But have
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  Speaker 1: you watched Gravesend on Amazon? I have? I have. I've
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  Speaker 1: watched both seasons. Season three is about to drop. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna watch that too. This is not a good show.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's bordering. It's right on the line of so bad.
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  Speaker 1: It's good, but it's it's doesn't go that far, so
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  Speaker 1: you can't even really use irony to appreciate it. But still, man,
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  Speaker 1: it's got all the actors from every great Mob movie
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  Speaker 1: in every Sopranos episode that you've ever seen. Okay, so
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  Speaker 1: it should be great. The acting should be great. It's
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  Speaker 1: a testament to I think bad directing and bad writing
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  Speaker 1: because it's so bad the acting can't save it. I
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  Speaker 1: say all that, and I'm laughing, and I'm kind of
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  Speaker 1: ashamed of myself for saying this, because part of me
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  Speaker 1: really loves what this filmmaker is doing. He's completely This
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  Speaker 1: guy grew up in Gravesend, Brooklyn. He's completely I forget
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  Speaker 1: his first name is his last name is DeMeo. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's William DeMeo. He's completely following his passion and
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  Speaker 1: what he knows and who he is, and he's making
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  Speaker 1: something that people clearly love. So who am I to
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  Speaker 1: shit on it? Right? And I but I do like it.
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  Speaker 1: I watch it, but I can't. I can't tell you
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  Speaker 1: it's a good show. It's not. You should check it out.
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  Speaker 1: Let me know what you think. Graves End. It's on
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  Speaker 1: Amazon again. I watch it all, Okay, But the mob
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  Speaker 1: movies that I love the most are the ones that
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  Speaker 1: incorporate rock and roll. So I thought there's no rock
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  Speaker 1: and roll in Gravesend. By the way, I thought that
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  Speaker 1: it would be cool to look at mob hits like
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  Speaker 1: actual killings, murders from mob films, and the music the
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  Speaker 1: actual hits that accompany those murders. Okay, but the caveat
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  Speaker 1: is the murders have to be based on real life
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  Speaker 1: mafia murders. Okay. This will keep us in the realm
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  Speaker 1: of music and true crime. Okay, So I should tell
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  Speaker 1: you spoiler alerts all right all over the place here.
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  Speaker 1: If you haven't seen these movies and you hear me
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  Speaker 1: mention them, just stop stop what you hear Okay, just
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  Speaker 1: wait thirty seconds now, First, up the infamous head in
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  Speaker 1: the vice scene from Martin Scorsese's Casino. This murder executed
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  Speaker 1: by Opeshi's character, Nikki Santorro, who is playing a version
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  Speaker 1: of a real gangster named Anthony Spilatro. This murder the
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  Speaker 1: real murder. It didn't happen in Las Vegas. It's based
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  Speaker 1: on the torture of a mobster named William McCarthy. McCarthy
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  Speaker 1: was part of the Chicago Outfit and was tortured and
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  Speaker 1: killed in nineteen sixty two. And yes, just like in Casino,
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  Speaker 1: his eye popped out from the pressure of the vice
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  Speaker 1: around his head. The song that's playing in the scene
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  Speaker 1: is Cream's instrumental Toad from their debut album Fresh Cream,
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  Speaker 1: released in nineteen sixty six. This murder, I believe, is
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  Speaker 1: also connected to the real life murder is also connected
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  Speaker 1: to the kidnapping of Frank Sinatra Junior, so there's another
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  Speaker 1: music connection here. I believe of the four connected guys
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  Speaker 1: who were killed in relation to that crime, one of
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  Speaker 1: them was killed or at least reportedly killed in the
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  Speaker 1: same way with the vice around the head, and William McCarthy,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think I could have it wrong.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Next, we're gonna travel back to the great
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  Speaker 1: Year of nineteen ninety six and the HBO film Gotti,
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  Speaker 1: starring armand Assante in the title role. First of all,
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  Speaker 1: this movie is incredible, It's great. I love it. I
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  Speaker 1: love it. And if you watch as I do interviews
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  Speaker 1: with real life Mafia members on YouTube, they will tell
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  Speaker 1: you that this is one of the most accurate portrayals
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  Speaker 1: of Mafia activity that's ever happened on film. Do I
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  Speaker 1: believe that. I don't know how accurate it is, but
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  Speaker 1: it is dramatic as hell, and it is really interesting.
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  Speaker 1: And Armana Sante is just he's so cool. He's such
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  Speaker 1: a great John Gotti. He's so awesome. But early in
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  Speaker 1: this film, very early on, Armana Sante as John Gotti
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  Speaker 1: enters a bar and he kills an enemy of mob
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  Speaker 1: boss Carlo Gambino. It's a real life hit. It happened
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  Speaker 1: in retaliation for the kidnapping and murder of Gambino's nephew.
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  Speaker 1: That actually happened. Somebody fucking kidnapped and murdered Carlo Gambino,
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  Speaker 1: the boss of all bosses, I believe at the time,
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  Speaker 1: and kidnapper murdered his nephew. Anyways, this hit John Gotti
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  Speaker 1: does in retaliation for Carlo Gambino. It puts him on
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  Speaker 1: the fast track to becoming a leader in the Gambino family.
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  Speaker 1: But more important, it made me love Three Dog Knight
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  Speaker 1: because when Gotti kills this dude in the movie Gotti,
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  Speaker 1: the dude's name is James McBratney. That was his real name.
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  Speaker 1: When this happens, Three Dog Knights. Excellent tune Shambala Shamba La.
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  Speaker 1: That song is so good it's playing in the background now.
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  Speaker 1: Shambala was released on May eleventh, nineteen seventy three, and
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  Speaker 1: the murder of James Jimmy McBratney took place on May
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  Speaker 1: twenty second, nineteen seventy three, so kudos to the filmmakers
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  Speaker 1: for the history accuracy here. Side note, Jimmy McBratney didn't
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  Speaker 1: actually kidnap and kill Gambino's nephew. It was a case
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  Speaker 1: of mistaken identity. Was a bad hit, but still it
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  Speaker 1: worked for Gotti again, put him on the fast track
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  Speaker 1: in the Gambino family. All right, number three on my list,
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  Speaker 1: but probably should be number one. We're going back to
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  Speaker 1: Joe Pesci here, but it's Joe Peschi's character, not from Casino,
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  Speaker 1: his character from Goodfellas, Tommy Devido, based on real life
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  Speaker 1: gangster Thomas d Simone, Tommy d Simone. And it's the
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  Speaker 1: scene where Tommy kills the Billy Batts character for the
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  Speaker 1: first time, played by Frank Vincent. All Right, they think
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  Speaker 1: that he kills him. And when this happens in Henry
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  Speaker 1: Hill's bar, we hear Donovan's excellent Atlantis playing in the scene. Okay, now,
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  Speaker 1: this scene is a fairly accurate portrayal of what went
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  Speaker 1: down in real life. D Simone, Tommy de Simone murdered
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  Speaker 1: a guy named William bent Vena. I think that's how
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  Speaker 1: you say that, who was a made member of the
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  Speaker 1: Gambino family. The hit happened in nineteen seventy. Donovan's Atlantis
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  Speaker 1: was released in nineteen sixty eight. I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: that had been playing in Henry Hills Bar. Maybe maybe
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  Speaker 1: The interesting thing about this in the movie, they attack
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  Speaker 1: Billy Batts after Billy bats insults Tommy or later on
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  Speaker 1: in the night. It's not immediate. You know, Billy Batts
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  Speaker 1: tells him to go get a shinebox, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: a couple hours go by, they wait for the girls
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  Speaker 1: to leave, they let Billy Batts relax, and then and
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  Speaker 1: then once everyone's gone, Tommy goes to work on Billy
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  Speaker 1: Bats and they think they kill him. Of course they don't.
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  Speaker 1: They kill him later in the trunk of the car.
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  Speaker 1: He survives for a couple more hours. However, in real life,
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  Speaker 1: what happened was the insult happens in a couple weeks
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  Speaker 1: go by before Tommy de Savone kills William How do
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  Speaker 1: you say his last name? Ben Venna? Who is the
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  Speaker 1: Billy Bats character? So there you go, all right. Next,
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  Speaker 1: I want to take you to a rooftop in Boston, Massachusetts.
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  Speaker 1: Here in the early odds, Billy costagain played by Leonardo DiCaprio.
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  Speaker 1: He gets a bullet in the head, okay, in the
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  Speaker 1: elevator in The Departed, And just before that happens, there's
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  Speaker 1: a bit of the live version of Comfortably Numb by
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  Speaker 1: Pink Floyd. But it's the Roger Waters live version. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: It's when he's up on the roof with Matt Damon.
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  Speaker 1: It's also earlier in the movie. It also happens earlier
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  Speaker 1: in the movie when Matt Damon is in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of a sex scene. But anyways, it happens on the
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  Speaker 1: roof there, just a bit of It's like some guitar playing. Now.
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  Speaker 1: The reason I mentioned this is because it again spoiler
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  Speaker 1: alert for the Sopranos. Here, it's the same version of
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  Speaker 1: comfortably numb that is playing in Christopher Maltasante's truck before
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  Speaker 1: Kennedy and Heidi run him off of the road and
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  Speaker 1: Tony as well, and then you know what happens there.
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  Speaker 1: Christopher Moltisante, that character in the Sopranos is based loosely
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  Speaker 1: on mobster Anthony Bruno in Delicato. Anthony Bruno in Delicanto
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  Speaker 1: from the Bonano family, a gangster with a severe drug addiction.
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  Speaker 1: That's who they based the Christopher Maltasante character on in Sopranos. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Bruno in Delicato is also the inspiration behind the Bruno
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  Speaker 1: character from Donnie Brosco, the son of Sonny Red. The
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  Speaker 1: actor who plays Bruno and Donnie Brosco is Brian Tarantina.
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  Speaker 1: Brian Tarantina plays Salvatore, Mustang, Sally and Tilea in the Sopranos.
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  Speaker 1: Mustang Sally is eventually murdered. There is no music accompanying
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  Speaker 1: the hit and the death is not inspired by true events,
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  Speaker 1: at least that I know of. But Mustang Sally is
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  Speaker 1: a song by Wilson Pickett that I never need to
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  Speaker 1: hear again, and neither to you. They can take that
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  Speaker 1: one in Brown Eyed Girl and they can send him
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  Speaker 1: straight to the moon. Now listen, Bruno in Delicado is
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  Speaker 1: still alive. Okay. I wonder what he thinks of being
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  Speaker 1: portrayed in Two Mafia. I was about to say films,
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  Speaker 1: but the Sopranos and in Donnie Brosco. Now, let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about Tony Soprano killed a bunch of people, obviously, but
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about his musical taste. I loved it. Struck
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  Speaker 1: me as totally accurate. Basically, he's got, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: middle aged classic rock radio tastes. I love it. It's perfect.
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  Speaker 1: Pink Floyd makes all the sense in the world when
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  Speaker 1: they're driving in that car and they're listed and Christopher
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  Speaker 1: is excited to play Tony that Roger Waters Pink Floyd CD.
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  Speaker 1: When I heard that Roger Waters version of Comfortably Now
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  Speaker 1: in The Departed, however, it struck me as weird because
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't the studio version. Of the song, and I
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  Speaker 1: immediately thought, oh, well, you know, Scorsese just couldn't get
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  Speaker 1: Pink floyd to license him the studio version. Maybe they
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  Speaker 1: wanted too much money, or they just didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: use or whatever, and he ended up going with the
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  Speaker 1: live version. Turns out that's exactly what happened. I was
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  Speaker 1: right about that. I'm not sure, however, why it's used
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: in the Sopranos, because they use one of these days
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  Speaker 1: they get to license Pink Floyds one of these days.
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  Speaker 1: In a two thousand and six episode called The Fleshy
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  Speaker 1: Part of the Thigh, it's used in the credit sequence.
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: This episode is the one where Bobby Bacalau gets paid
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  Speaker 1: by the aspiring hip hop artist Marvin MVP Bellfield to
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  Speaker 1: shoot him on purpose so that Marvin can gain some
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  Speaker 1: much needed street credibility, and that storyline is reportedly a
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  Speaker 1: parody of the real life fifty cent shooting and Marvin
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  Speaker 1: to further connect to music history into real life music
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  Speaker 1: Marvin is played. The character is played by Naughty by
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  Speaker 1: Nature's Tretch and Tretch's manager excuse me. Marvin's manager in
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  Speaker 1: this episode is played by Lord Jamar from Brand Nubian
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  Speaker 1: There's even a brand Nubian reference in the dialogue. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the depiction of hip hop artists like MVP being so
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  Speaker 1: dead for street credibility was so accurate that Nas references
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  Speaker 1: this episode on his two thousand and six album hip
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  Speaker 1: Hop Is Dead. Incredible love these connections. All Right, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going too deep down the rabbit hole, but we will
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  Speaker 1: go deeper. We're going to do that in the exclusive
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  Speaker 1: section of this after party, Zeth and I, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to talk about real life rock stars, real life musicians
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: caught up with real life gangsters. Madonna, Marilyn Monroe. You're waiting,
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  Speaker 1: You're like Merily Monroe. She's an actress, not she's also
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  Speaker 1: a pretty damn good singer. Okay, put out records the
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  Speaker 1: whole bit. Okay. Anyways, some surprising connections between real life
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  Speaker 1: musicians and the mafia that we're going to discuss in
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  Speaker 1: the exclusive section of this after party. Go to www
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  Speaker 1: all access member to unlock exclusive content like this plus
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  Speaker 1: ad free listening. Now, this is the stuff that I
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  Speaker 1: am obsessed with. I probably need a hobby. Maybe Adele
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: needs a hobby, as Well, like I said, our new
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  Speaker 1: story on Adallas available for you to listen to right now.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: Coming up in the rewind slot this Sunday, We've got
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: our episodes on Paul McCartney and John Lennon, both of
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: their early seventies solo career stuff. That's what's going to
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  Speaker 1: be detailed in these episodes. Paul McCartney's stint in jail,
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: John lennon stint under FBI surveillance. These are great episodes.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna dig them, I promise. If you haven't heard
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: them before, get in there and listen. And then on Tuesday,
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: we've got our episode on the Hillsborough disaster. This is
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  Speaker 1: a special episode of Disgraceland. We are releasing it because
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: the World Cup is about to get underway, and we
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: originally wrote this episode for a different series other than Disgraceland.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: But make no mistake, this is a Disgraceland episode and
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  Speaker 1: it depicts the horrible tragedy we're ninety seven ninety seven
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  Speaker 1: Liverpool football fans died in a fatal crowd crush during
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: a nineteen eighty nine soccer match at Hillsborough Stadium. Is
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  Speaker 1: one of the episodes that we've produced here double Elis
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  Speaker 1: and I am most proud of It's an incredible story.
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  Speaker 1: We are releasing it once again, timed with the World
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Cup that's about to start happening this weekend. Now, whether
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: or not you're a soccer fan, you're going to dig this,
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  Speaker 1: so I hope you check it out. And when you're
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: listening to that episode, be thinking about tragedies. Be thinking
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  Speaker 1: about music tragedies, sports tragedies, and what's the most tragic
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  Speaker 1: event from music history, sports history, just culture in general.
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  Speaker 1: Six p One seven nine oh sixty six six three eight.
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  Speaker 1: to last week's question, the week your voicemails, texts, emails
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: and more coming up. We got a lot of different
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: conversations going on with you, guys. Let's check in with
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  Speaker 1: Rob from the three oh three.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Jake, this is Rob from the three oh three.
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  Speaker 2: It's the first time I've ever had to stop a
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: podcast and doll your number. Man, you asked for unlikely
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: covers and I worked for a radio station in Denver
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: and I did not know it's a classic rock station
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: that pm DON covered Beatles Norwegian would really good song,
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  Speaker 2: both versions. That's all I got, man, Thanks.
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  Speaker 1: Rob, thanks for the call. I love the pm DON vibes.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: I love the nineties vibes. I had no idea they
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  Speaker 1: covered Norwegian? Would they? Did they cover it or just
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  Speaker 1: sample it? I'm gonna check it out. Very interested in this, Rob,
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  Speaker 1: thanks so much. Russell from the seven oh four.
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  Speaker 3: Hey there from the seven oh four, I do finish
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  Speaker 3: listening to the nineteen ninety.
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  Speaker 4: Four after Party.
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  Speaker 3: I graduated high school in nineteen ninety four, so a
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: lot of what you talked about really get home for me.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: I listened to it because I wanted to find out
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  Speaker 3: about these punk albums not by punk artists.
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  Speaker 5: See who mentioned was And there's one that came to.
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  Speaker 3: Mind that I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned, and that is
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  Speaker 3: Break against the Machines album.
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  Speaker 2: Battle of Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 4: You know that a punk album is relevant when you
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  Speaker 4: have someone like Weird Al covering, not parodying, but covering
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: greats against the Machine in one.
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  Speaker 2: Of their concerts. All I'd say about that is fuck.
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  Speaker 3: You, I will do what you tell me.
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  Speaker 4: Love the show, Love Hollywood Land, looking forward to hearing
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  Speaker 4: more of it, Have a great day.
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  Speaker 1: Love the Passion Russell. Is that true weird al covered
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  Speaker 1: Ridge against the Machine and didn't parody it? That's that's uh,
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  Speaker 1: that's pretty interesting. What's more punk than fuck you? I
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: won't do what you tell me? That's what I want
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: to know. Chad from the six oh four, Hey.
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  Speaker 5: Jacob, Chad can come up and here British Columbia, Canada.
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  Speaker 5: More nothing disgraceful, just like you feel good you know music,
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  Speaker 5: which for me, it's the number one super group, the
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  Speaker 5: only fucking supergroups that exists on the planet ever, of
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  Speaker 5: all time in my opinion, Traveling Wilburries.
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  Speaker 1: Chad, thank you. I appreciate the call in Traveling Wilburries
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  Speaker 1: might be the greatest supergroup of all time? But are
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: they the only one? The only one? I don't know, man,
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  Speaker 1: what about the Firm? Come on, dude, I'm kidding the firm.
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  Speaker 1: We're a B B team supergroup at best. There's gonna
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: be other examples of great supergroup. So someone was just
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  Speaker 1: talking about rage against Mashine audio slave. There you go.
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  Speaker 1: There's one. But there's a mythology to the Traveling Wilberries
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  Speaker 1: that some of these other supergroups just don't have appreciate
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: the call Chad get back at us anytime. Amber from
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  Speaker 1: the six to two Ozero rights and Hey, Jake, Amber
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  Speaker 1: from the seven A five. But Amber, I'm looking at
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  Speaker 1: your area code. It's six too well. Amber says, Hey,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I would also love a Tory Amos episode for a
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: crime perspective. Tory was raped at Oh my God, at
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: knife point by a fan. I did not know this.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: My goodness. Her song that's my I just said that,
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  Speaker 1: not Amber.
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  Speaker 5: Here.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Amber goes on to say her song Me and a
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Gun on the Little Earthquakes album is about that experience.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: It's also one of the main reasons she's a spokesperson
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: co founder for RAIN. I hope this helps keep up
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: the great work Rock a rolla Amber, It absolutely helps.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Wow, that's heavy. That is heavy. Yeah,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: we'll definitely get into a torri Emos episode at some point.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Two US six writes in the question of outlier albums,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: this spawning from our Weezer conversation last week relatives to
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  Speaker 1: Pinkerton and our Weezer episode to a six text in
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  Speaker 1: Hey I'm behind on the podcast, I agree with Pinkerton.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: For Weezer, I would say Paul's Boutique is the Beastie Boys'
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: best album, best Beastie Boys album, and an outlier. I
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: never thought of Paul's Boutique as an outlier because but
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  Speaker 1: it is. I see your point. But at the time,
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  Speaker 1: they were still defining who they were going to be.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: And I look at Licensed to Ill, Paul's Boutique Check
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  Speaker 1: your Head chronologically their first three albums as a progression.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: You can hear them creatively going from one to the
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: other versus Weezer, which is the blue album Pinkerton, and
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: then what the Green album after that, and the Green
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: album kind of reverts back to what they were. It'd
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: be like if Check your Head reverted back to License
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: to Ill. But to your point, however, two six the
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Beastie Boys, they once they land on Check your Head,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: they kind of stick the landing for a while. Ill
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: communication is still in that vein. They've kind of found
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: what they're doing, they've identified themselves. But uh, pretty interesting
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  Speaker 1: to think of Paul's Boutigue as an outlier. It certainly
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: sounds like one now. Nine to one seven writes in Hey, Adele,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: where's the Fiona Apple? Episode? Nine one seven? How do
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: you know we're going to do a Fiona Apple episode?
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Nine one seven. Also writes in Pavement, he just wants
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: to keep your hard core noice in check and sounds
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: extremely insecure. Nothing about Swans, no deaf Heaven week. I
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: don't know what the hell you're talking about. Nine one seven.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I did find out an interesting thing about the Swans recently, though.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Michael Girauh dated Madonna for a while back in the
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  Speaker 1: day nine one seven. A lot of texts here, also
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: writes in look Up Kanye's obsession with Adele before his
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: first album came out. Okay, I will keep texting me
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: nine one seven. Appreciate it six one seven, nine oh
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: six six six three eight. You guys want to get
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  Speaker 1: at me about anything here, Jeff mcdermoan writes in hey episode,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: request Jeff here from the eight one to five and
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: just finished the re release the rewind of the Aliyah episode,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: and it got me thinking of a hip hop artist.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: It started to blow up around the same time that
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: she did DMX, please make a DMX episode four exclamation points.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: There is enough crime in drama to make a very
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: interesting story. And believe it or not, he did make
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: some pretty great music. Keep on keeping on, Jeff from
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: the eight one to five. Jeff, we got DMX on
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: the list this year. I believe it's in the works,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: so to speak. We're planning for it to be in
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the works. I should say, Oh, you guys want to
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: hit me up with requests for subjects to cover in Disgraceland,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: you can do so. Disgrace lamdpod at gmail dot com.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: In the exclusive section of last week's after Party, we
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: were talking about pulp fiction. Casey writes in Casey Juvenile
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Rights and Hey, I heard in the after Party exclusive
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: section on pulp fiction this week, and I wanted to
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: bring to your attention something that I recently noticed about
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: the movie. It is my all time favorite and I
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: watched it about two times a year and always find
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: something new. You guys mentioned Steve Buscemi playing Buddy Holly. Well,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but there
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: is a theory that Buddy Hawley is actually mister Pink
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: from Reservoir Dogs and I'm sure you remember his classic
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: dialogue and which he talks about how he doesn't tip
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: waiters and waitresses. So the theory is that mister Pink
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: went underground after the robbery and is hiding out as
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: a waiter because no one would expect it anyway. It's
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: just something to think about. Love your work, keep up
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: the good work. That's from CJ, CJ. This theory is awesome.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I love it. Would mister Pink though, would he recognize
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Vincent Vega as vic Vega's brother, you know what I mean?
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Because he's waiting on him, you know he might? Is
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: there anything? Is there anything in that scene where Buddy's
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: kind of like where mister Pink is kind of like, wait,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: who the fuck is this? This guy looks like someone
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I know, you know what I mean? Maybe a look,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: a glance, a raised eyebrow, even last one here Relative
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: to Weezer, Good Day Jake Rob originally from Auckland, now
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: living in Queensland, Australia. Love your podcast. I'm so glad
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: someone else thinks Pinkerton is a great album. Weezer played
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Auckland in nineteen ninety six, right in that strange window
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: where Pinkerton was still new and uncomfortable, and I really
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: liked it, but none of my mates did. It was
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: no Doddy Holly, slightly unhinged in a way that didn't
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: quite fit Weezer's Blue album, and Weezer played Auckland just
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: after we finished high school end of Exam's blowout. That
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: weird feeling where your life is suddenly open, but no
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: one has told you what it's supposed to look like
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: yet Damn Rob Well put Rob We hope to capture
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  Speaker 1: that sentiment in the sentence you just wrote, or that
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: I just read that you wrote in our latest episode
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: of this film should be Played Loud, which is on
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Dazed and Confused. We're releasing it this month. We recorded
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: it last night. We're releasing it this month because it
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: is the end of the school year, and it is
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: probably the greatest graduation movie that I've ever seen, even
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: even more than The Graduate. How about that? How about that?
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Is dazzing Confused better than The Graduate? I watch it more,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it more. I don't know. I don't know
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: if I'm actually saying that I should probably watch The
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Graduate again. But you know, I don't love The Graduate.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I never have What's wrong with me. I don't know, Rob,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: You're a good writer. Right back anytime. All right, you
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  Speaker 1: guys want to email me Disgrace Sampod at gmail dot com.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Now listen, May Madness. May Madness has been consuming all
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: of us here at Double Elvis and everybody over in
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: the Patreon feed for the last thirty plus days. Okay,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: we have arrived at the end of the line. We
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: have a winner, and that winner will be announced to
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: you coming up right after this. So we are back
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: here in the after party and over on Patreon. You
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: may or may not be aware. For the month of May,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: which has now ended, we were covering May Madness. Now
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: May Madness. You might be like, what are you talking about?
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: I know about March Madness. Is May Madness the NCAAA
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: baseball tournament. No it's not, but I am deeply invested
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: in that as well. May Madness is our sitcom theme tournament. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: And we have a winner, the sickcomal Tron two thousand.
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  Speaker 1: It finally tabulated all the votes and you know, it
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: started spewing out some white smoke just like the Vatican,
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  Speaker 1: and we got news. Okay, So I'm not gonna blow
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  Speaker 1: it here I'm going to go to our special May
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  Speaker 1: Madness correspondent, Matt Boden check in with Matt. Here, Matt
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: can give us a recap of what exactly went down
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: with May Madness and how we arrived with our winner
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: and who that winner is, Matt, give it to him.
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  Speaker 6: Well, we had a lot of, you know, great deserving
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  Speaker 6: theme songs in this contest, but ultimately we wound up
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: with an all New York final with mister Cotter and
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: the sweat Hogs from Brooklyn going up against George and
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: Weezy on the East Side of Manhattan formerly of Queens
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: and ultimately our winner was the Jeffersons, who defeated Welcome
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: Back Cotter fifty four to twenty five. I don't think
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: anybody was surprised to see the Jeffersons in the final.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 6: It's an incredible theme, with the indelible images of Wheezy
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: wiping her eyes and George with that hilarious yet confidence
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  Speaker 6: strut as they head into the uh, the apartment building.
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  Speaker 6: So there you have it, The Jeffersons the greatest sitcom
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  Speaker 6: theme of all time according to our listeners.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Matt, thank you for that. We appreciate the recap,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: appreciate all the work you put into this, and appreciate
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: everybody over on Patreon who voted and took part in
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: made Madness this year. This was a lot of fun.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I think the thing we learned is that we like
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: doing we like doing tournaments. We want to do another one.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: We want we want to finally figure out these these long,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: these long mused about cultural questions, you know, like what
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: the greatest sitcom theme of all time is? Obviously The Jeffersons.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: I kind of feel like that's on my answer. My
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: answer is taxi maybe cheers, But you know, I can
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: understand and the actually the story behind the creed of
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: the song that is the theme song for the Jeffersons
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: is really fascinating and also speaks to that tunes greatness.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: But there are other great cultural questions that we want
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• 29:12
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  Speaker 1: We've got episodes on Goodfellows, Royal, Tenenbaums, Boogie Nights. Got
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  Speaker 1: a member today. So, all of a sudden, in Hollywood
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: we have young people making great movies that are also
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• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Zeth gets into all of this in the Hollywoodland Fee
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: this week relative to our Lucille Ball re release episode
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  Speaker 1: that's over there. But in the Rap Party, we're giving
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  Speaker 1: music recommendations based on music recommendations and film recommendations. But
• 30:13
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  Speaker 1: under twenty years old in most cases, making great music
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  Speaker 1: dig into some pretty pretty revealing music connections, rock and
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• 31:09
  Speaker 1: We talked about which artists do we discuss. Going back
• 31:14
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• 31:16
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• 31:19
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• 31:21
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• 31:24
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• 31:33
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• 31:35
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• 31:45
  Speaker 1: This week? Our new episode on Adele in the rewind
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  Speaker 1: Cultural tournaments Number six six one seven nine h six
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  Speaker 1: or whatever else you want to talk about. Number seven.
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  Speaker 1: Don't forget discos. This isn't just content. It's a community,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: a community of the obsessed. No one cares about music, books, records,
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  Speaker 1: Like you do. Well, that's a disgrace, all right. Adele's
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