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INTERVIEW: Hit Boy Talks Music Career; Industry, Ye, 'Software Update,' Album & Movie Collab With The Alchemist · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Don't every day up? Wait, click your ass up. The
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  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club finished for y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Done.
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  Speaker 3: Yep to the world, no dangerous morning to show to
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  Speaker 3: Breakfast Club? Shallamaine the god j just hilarious DJ Envy
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  Speaker 3: Envy had to run but Laura le Ross and right
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  Speaker 3: now we got a man.
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  Speaker 1: I want to say young legend, but you just know
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  Speaker 1: legend at this point. You know what I'm saying. You
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, anybody that delivered nods his first Grammy, I got
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  Speaker 3: a salute.
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  Speaker 1: Hit Boy is here.
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  Speaker 2: Respect morning. Appreciate y'all having me. I've been waiting to
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  Speaker 2: get on here for some years.
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  Speaker 1: Man, happy to have you. Man, how you feeling this
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  Speaker 1: more solid?
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  Speaker 2: Man? I feel better than ever for real? Just run
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  Speaker 2: around New York? You know what I mean. We was
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  Speaker 2: out late last night, so I'm dragon a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm good though. Man's just I'm blessed one time
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  Speaker 2: profession week. I'm just here man, moving around.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, when did hit Boy feel like he arrived? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you produced for everybody from jay Z to be honestly
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  Speaker 3: to NAS. When you look back, was it a beat?
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  Speaker 3: Was the moment that made you feel like, Yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 3: here to stay in this game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy, man, because I you know, I was
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  Speaker 2: in a in a situation. I was in a deal
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  Speaker 2: for like eighteen years with UNPG Universal Music Publishing Group,
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  Speaker 2: and I was just talking about how I kind of
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  Speaker 2: never felt like I all the way made it because
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  Speaker 2: you know it's funny, bro, you don't even notice you
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  Speaker 2: tweeted something a long time ago that triggered something in
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  Speaker 2: my brain. Bro, somebody says something and you tweeted like
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  Speaker 2: this is probably twenty eleven something. You was like, hit
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  Speaker 2: boy got that other worldly money because I guess I
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  Speaker 2: did niggas in Piris. I did that the joints, and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, hold up, I'm supposed to have other
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  Speaker 2: worldly money. This is jay z first common record, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean. And I'm like, yo, So that's
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  Speaker 2: what I didn't even know. I was in a bad
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  Speaker 2: deal till I made Niggas in Peris. You. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I did drop the World with my boy chasing cash
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  Speaker 2: for Lil Wayne and Eminem. I did other joints, but
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  Speaker 2: that was the first hit that was like, Okay, where
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  Speaker 2: the real money at now, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: I was able to get some bread. I went and
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  Speaker 2: did a record deal and the label deal with Jimmy.
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  Speaker 2: I v that interscope, but my publishing money wasn't what
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  Speaker 2: it should have been. I couldn't go get that crazy advanced.
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  Speaker 2: So you triggered something in me. I'm like, man, I'm
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be touching.
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  Speaker 1: Who do you have.
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  Speaker 3: That conversation with because a lot of times, man, especially
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  Speaker 3: when when you're black, you don't like to tell people
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  Speaker 3: you don't know something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, who had you know? It's crazy though, because
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  Speaker 2: that's bro Jimmy Iveen. I went to his crib when
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  Speaker 2: I was about to sign my deal, just chopping. They
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  Speaker 2: were eating food, you know, just connecting, and I'm just
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  Speaker 2: telling him like, bro, I don't know nothing about none
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  Speaker 2: of this shit. And he was like, you know, that's
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  Speaker 2: actually the smartest thing you ever said, because everything I
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  Speaker 2: do you can learn, but what you do I can't learn.
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  Speaker 1: That.
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  Speaker 2: You just got that in you so that you know,
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  Speaker 2: that was just like a little moment where I mean
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  Speaker 2: but I mean, bro, it's just been it's been a journey.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a hell of a journey. And I got
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  Speaker 2: out my deal just this past July, two months ago,
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  Speaker 2: so I felt like I made it when I got
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  Speaker 2: out my deal, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: It was Jimmy Iveen who got you on the right track. Man,
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  Speaker 3: Well that's just handed you a piece of paper saying, oh,
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  Speaker 3: just sign this.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, well that's kind of what happened. He
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  Speaker 2: handed me the papers, He gave me a couple of m's.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like twenty four years old. I wanted did the
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  Speaker 2: most nigga shit I could do, got a crib and
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  Speaker 2: moved all my homies in and just like turned up
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  Speaker 2: and you know I was able to make some hits. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, but basically, uh, jay Z was the one
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  Speaker 2: who got me out my deal. Jay Z and Desiree Perez,
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  Speaker 2: they stepped in. I was being managed by them like
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, and at that point I was in
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  Speaker 2: my deal for fourteen years and I was like, yo,
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  Speaker 2: I need to get out this deal, and they was like, well,
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  Speaker 2: the best we could do is you know, you can
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  Speaker 2: go from here to twenty twenty five, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: July twenty twenty five hit you'll be out your deal.
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  Speaker 2: And I just did them last four years. So I
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  Speaker 2: was in my deal for eighteen years.
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  Speaker 4: July first, twenty twenty five. What did you wake up
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  Speaker 4: feeling like.
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  Speaker 2: A new man? A new man? I'm just like, man,
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  Speaker 2: the pressure that dark cloud is just gone now. Like
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  Speaker 2: it was like I didn't realize I was depressed. Like
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  Speaker 2: I've been doing therapy, you know what I mean. I
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  Speaker 2: realized a lot like a shout out Melissa Doumaan as
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  Speaker 2: my therapist, Like she made me realize I never had
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  Speaker 2: boundaries and that made me go back to like, oh
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  Speaker 2: that's why I was like just basically handed people around
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  Speaker 2: me the same life lifestyle. You know, I'm taking twenty
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  Speaker 2: thirty people out to dinner, I'm doing all this all
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  Speaker 2: the young niggashit periods, so just you know, basically just
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  Speaker 2: to be in this place now. I'm just feeling refreshed.
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  Speaker 1: Man, How are you now with that? Though?
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  Speaker 2: Right? Good? I'm good. Circle small, it's like a dot,
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  Speaker 2: it's not a circle no more. It's like it's just
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  Speaker 2: small now, you know, so just more condensed than you know.
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  Speaker 2: I got the right people around me that I don't
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  Speaker 2: really care about me versus just letting anybody hang.
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  Speaker 3: What did jay Z and Dads do exactly to get
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  Speaker 3: you out of your situation? Everybody likes to blame Rock
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  Speaker 3: Nation for the bad shit.
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  Speaker 2: Right right right? Nah? I mean bruh that they did
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  Speaker 2: what they did. I don't know. They bossed up and
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  Speaker 2: went in there and figured it out. You know, they
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  Speaker 2: got me a nice little advanced twenty twenty one. It
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  Speaker 2: was like, well, you know, you can get this advance,
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  Speaker 2: but you still got to do four more years. And
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  Speaker 2: I just took it on the chain and just stugged
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  Speaker 2: it out, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: So now you can do a new publisher deal.
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  Speaker 2: Now I could do whatever I want to do free man.
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  Speaker 2: For the first time, I signed my deal one year
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  Speaker 2: out of high school. I was nineteen years old, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean. And I was in that deal.
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  Speaker 2: I'm thirty eight now, you know what I mean. It's
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  Speaker 2: been some time, so I'm just I feel refreshed. I
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  Speaker 2: feel like I just started though, you know what.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, done so much, Like yeah, like, what's the
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  Speaker 4: offers like on the table? Because they're not heard about?
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  Speaker 2: You getting offers is nice to be a better I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I ain't gonna say all that, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: We are we are we are working our way up
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  Speaker 2: to that because I'm you know, I'm expanded. Rogers bought
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  Speaker 2: a horse shout my boy DJ from Blue Bucks playing
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  Speaker 2: crazy group from the West Coast. But my boy just
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  Speaker 2: started messing with the horses and he like he put
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  Speaker 2: me on like you know, gaming me up about how
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  Speaker 2: to get money with that, and it's like it's a
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  Speaker 2: whole different world.
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  Speaker 1: Agriculture yeah, racehorse, Yeah, racehorses.
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  Speaker 2: It's like it's like you buy DNA, you know what
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  Speaker 2: i mean. We basically like trying to find Michael Jordan mom,
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  Speaker 2: like you know what I mean, Like they can't you
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  Speaker 2: know what i mean, all they kids didn't want races
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  Speaker 2: if like you know, if their kids or their dad
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  Speaker 2: won races. It's just, you know, the value goes up.
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  Speaker 2: So learning that type of stuff and you know, expanding
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  Speaker 2: on into film. I'm doing some stuff with Alchemists, the
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  Speaker 2: homie Alchemist producer. You know, were going back and forth
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  Speaker 2: just wrapping on each other beats and got a couple
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  Speaker 2: other people in the mix, and we did a movie
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  Speaker 2: to go with the uh with the album too. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm hype on.
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  Speaker 1: That because you and out rapping.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, how do you balance being seen as one of
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  Speaker 3: one of the greatest producers with still being hungry?
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  Speaker 1: And I guess chasing the next sound maybe.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not that I'm chasing, It's just that's
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  Speaker 2: just that's how I keep myself entertained. Man Like. Producing
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  Speaker 2: is always just been fun for me. It's just been
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  Speaker 2: like a replacement for video games because I started when
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  Speaker 2: I was like fifteen sixteen, and I stopped playing video
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  Speaker 2: games to start making beats. And I'm glad, I did,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yo, you.
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  Speaker 5: Still look so young, you talking like that's you're still
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  Speaker 5: young thirty eight?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt twenty five.
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  Speaker 5: For sure, right, and then hearing you say right, you
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  Speaker 5: feel like you're about to just start all over.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so with more knowledge, just way smarter, way flyer,
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  Speaker 2: way richer, you know.
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  Speaker 5: So. But the way you make it sound is like
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  Speaker 5: you haven't enjoyed any of it at all.
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  Speaker 2: No I have. I have. I have been you know,
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  Speaker 2: I've had some good times. But you know, I just
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  Speaker 2: I've just been chasing like something within myself, like just
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  Speaker 2: trying to push myself to be like great, like you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like I look up to the greats,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I look up to the
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  Speaker 2: to the jay Z's, to the Ya's, to nas is,
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  Speaker 2: like you know, and it's like it's more to get
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  Speaker 2: you know, when.
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  Speaker 3: You talk about going to see a therapist. Was it
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  Speaker 3: just a bad publishing deal that had you?
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  Speaker 2: Nah? Nah nah, I've been dealing with you know. It
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  Speaker 2: made me realize a lot just a boy my childhood.
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  Speaker 2: You know, my pops had got out of prison a
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  Speaker 2: couple of years ago. People kind of saw the splash.
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  Speaker 2: But I've been dealing with that, you know, since I
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  Speaker 2: was three years old. That's something that you know, my
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  Speaker 2: mom and my grandma, they did a great job like
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  Speaker 2: raising me, you know, making me a respectable young man
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  Speaker 2: and all that. But you know, I just still felt
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  Speaker 2: some type of void with my dad. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: every time we get out, we start to make some stride,
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  Speaker 2: we start to move, and then it's like boom, he
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  Speaker 2: back in there. He's doing another three years right now.
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  Speaker 2: Dang yeah, crazy man.
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  Speaker 3: Did you feel like you wanted to be in hip
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  Speaker 3: hop because he always had that dream I wanted to be.
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  Speaker 2: A Nah nah No. I just I just love music period,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because my uncle was in a group called
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  Speaker 2: Troop back in the day. My grandma I was just
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  Speaker 2: talking about.
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  Speaker 1: Just talking about you.
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  Speaker 2: So my grandma is the one who started there when
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  Speaker 2: my my uncle was like thirteen, like he found some
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  Speaker 2: kids from his high school and then she was the
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  Speaker 2: one who whipped them in his shape to where they
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  Speaker 2: got a record deal. I had a couple number ones
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  Speaker 2: and all that. But you know, I got to see
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  Speaker 2: early in my life. I got to see a lot
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  Speaker 2: because I lived with him when he was at his height.
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  Speaker 2: Me and my mom. I'm like two, three, four years old.
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  Speaker 2: I'm hearing all this like R and B, I'm hearing
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  Speaker 2: soul for I'm hearing NWA against the West Coast music,
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  Speaker 2: and living pretty nice up until I was like five,
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  Speaker 2: and then you know, my dad was dealing with my
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  Speaker 2: dad being in prison. But living with my uncle, I
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  Speaker 2: got to see a high level lifestyle. But then I
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  Speaker 2: also seen how it started to be new R and
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  Speaker 2: B groups and it sound switched and Troop wasn't what
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  Speaker 2: it once was. And it was like we went from
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  Speaker 2: living in nice condos to now we living in a
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  Speaker 2: one bedroom altogether, you know what I mean in Pasadena. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so I got to see highs and lows. Man. That's
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  Speaker 2: why I keep it just humble, I keep it cool.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 5: I was gonna ask, how how has that shaped you?
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  Speaker 5: Because you lived that pretty early.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. Yeah. Man, just visiting prisons and then
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  Speaker 2: going back to my uncle condo where you got an
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  Speaker 2: elevator in the spot in a pool, like it was
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  Speaker 2: just like I'm being tugged in a bunch of different
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  Speaker 2: you know ways. But it just kind of kept me
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  Speaker 2: balanced at all times. Like I come from a super humble,
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  Speaker 2: cool family too, so you know, I'm always just pushing man,
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  Speaker 2: pushing it.
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  Speaker 3: I was just talking about Troop last week, and so
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  Speaker 3: I forgot somebody sampled with. All I do is think
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  Speaker 3: to you a couple of people and played the last Friday,
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  Speaker 3: and they was like, that's B five. I'm like, fine,
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  Speaker 3: but then it's really.
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  Speaker 2: Troops just they stronghold, they went crazy on their version.
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  Speaker 3: Now you got Grammy wings, you got plaks, you got accolades.
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  Speaker 3: What do you feel still hasn't been said about your
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  Speaker 3: legacy yet?
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  Speaker 2: On what hasn't been said? I mean I can't really,
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  Speaker 2: I don't really know. I'm just I'm just living it,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like me, i feel like
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  Speaker 2: I'm the most I'm the least like technical producer.
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  Speaker 1: Ever.
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  Speaker 2: Everything has just been coming flowing through me. It's coming
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  Speaker 2: from the soul. Like that's why I just I don't
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  Speaker 2: feel like people could pinpoint my sound. I can go
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  Speaker 2: from Beyonce to Knaves, or go from Nas to Beaver,
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  Speaker 2: or to Beaver to Drake or whatever. It's like, I
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  Speaker 2: just make music. I don't got one thing that I
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  Speaker 2: specifically do. So I feel like people still haven't even
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  Speaker 2: like I got family members that don't even know like them,
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  Speaker 2: you did trophies for Drake, or you did right here
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  Speaker 2: for Beeber and Drake or you you know, It's like
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  Speaker 2: people still don't even know what I've done yet for real.
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  Speaker 2: It's something. It's some people that still think Kanye originated
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  Speaker 2: the niggas in Paris beat, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Like there are still.
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  Speaker 5: People that told you I literally thought that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So what I'm saying, there's still people that don't
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  Speaker 2: even know I was associated with niggas in Paris, So
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  Speaker 2: I still got you know, my story is yet to
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  Speaker 2: be fully told.
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  Speaker 4: Break the association down with you in the song for
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  Speaker 4: people who don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I produced the song, made the beat, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I just uh yeah, I worked on that and I
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  Speaker 2: worked on a lift off from Washington Throne too, but
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  Speaker 2: we had did a bunch of other songs. I was
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  Speaker 2: out here in New York. We just had soho you know,
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  Speaker 2: it was in the Mercer Hotel, just doing songs, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm hype on all these other joints that we was
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  Speaker 2: working on. I like hearing jay Z vocals and Yay
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  Speaker 2: vocals on my beats. I was losing my mind, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean. But none of them songs seen
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  Speaker 2: a lot of day. They just so happened to go
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  Speaker 2: to Paris, and I guess they was lit. Yay went
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  Speaker 2: through his emails and hurt that beat. It just they
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  Speaker 2: was turning up and it went crazy.
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  Speaker 3: You you know, you started a trend, right well, I
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  Speaker 3: wanted it to be a trend, right like when you
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  Speaker 3: and Nas got together and started creating all of those
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  Speaker 3: dope projects.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, that's what I want to see happen.
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  Speaker 3: I want all of these legendary mcs to get with
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  Speaker 3: younger producers who probably grew up on they sound and
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  Speaker 3: understand they sound and know what they need.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, why do you think that didn't become more of
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  Speaker 1: a thing.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think I think it did kind of,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I feel like we inspired
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  Speaker 2: a couple movements that's happening, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: But I just the game is just different now. Man.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, people don't care as much
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  Speaker 2: about producers, you know what I mean, even just like that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's like me doing my own music and
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  Speaker 2: wanted to like push my stuff forward. It's a lot
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  Speaker 2: that's like that goes into that. Like I just had
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  Speaker 2: a song drop last Friday right with Tia Karin and
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  Speaker 2: Jig that I produced. Made the whole beat by myself
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  Speaker 2: be crazy as hell energy, And I didn't know the
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  Speaker 2: song was dropping until I looked on Twitter. But my lawyer,
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  Speaker 2: my manager was reaching out to the label, like, Yo,
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  Speaker 2: we're supposed to get primary credit on this, We're supposed
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  Speaker 2: to get our payment taking care of mind you the
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  Speaker 2: song came out, I still ain't even been paid for them,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. You know it just came out,
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  Speaker 2: But still it's like I just that part of the game.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like producers are the most disrespected, like period,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like we like I might
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  Speaker 2: do a song for somebody, they can go take it
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  Speaker 2: on a whole tour. I ain't even got my fee yet.
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  Speaker 2: I ain't even got an upfront, just measily why they
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  Speaker 2: get compared to what y'all out there making. But I'm
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  Speaker 2: trying to break down that. I'm trying to like get
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  Speaker 2: more respect put on producers' names. And I know we
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: got people that's pushing in Metro, having successful albums. Just
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: a lot of people that's doing they thing. Mustard going
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: crazy being on the super Bowl Like that's good looks,
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: It's like, but I feel like it's still a lot
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: of respect that we don't get put on our name.
• 12:48
  Speaker 3: That's crazy to say that because I come from the
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: era where all the producers did you know what I mean,
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: the Swiss Beads, the Temples, the premiere, Like you knew
• 12:56
  Speaker 3: all of them.
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: And they was getting chilly, it was getting preived back.
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: Have the name drops in the song, Yeah, yeah, you
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: just knew it with them. It was in the music videos.
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: They were everywhere.
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, shit, I'm on that same way now I'm
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: about to push my movement forward. Man, this a movie
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: with Alchemists and uh, just all the other stuff I'm doing.
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: It's just I feel like people gonna look at me
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: in a whole new light.
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: Why nots? What was it about?
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: No? Man? He just wanted to work, you know what
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, these niggas be on bullshit, Like I'd be
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: like I link with people all playing beats. You know,
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: they'll take beats or they'll come record stuff and then
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: never use it. Nas just kept coming through and kept
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: using the music I was providing. And it was that simple.
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: Like I just kind of was like, if he gonna
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: dedicate his energy, this is NAS. You know, he don't
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: even have to be doing this ship like he already solidified.
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: But it gave me a chance to like really just learn.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: Like it's like being in the gym bro. We was
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: just put we put it. We dropped eighty songs in
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: three years, you know, I mean six albums, So it's
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: like that was a lot of a lot of practice,
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: you know, and just, uh shit, we made it happen.
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: We want to gram me what what did y'all unlocked
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: in each other creatively that the industry probably didn't even
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: see coming.
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: I think, just empowering each other. Man, Like, you know,
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: he was open to the ideas I was bringing him, Like,
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: you know, I had certain like hooks, like I had
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: the Don Tolliver hook already. You know, I had like this,
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: uh Anderson pact hook that he used on the first album.
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: That's just like he was just opening my ideas and
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: it's like, you know, I'm a shooter, man. Everybody that
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: pull up, I try to get these ideas off and
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: most people don't understand it. But he understood what I
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: was on, and you know, we just felt the vibe.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: How much you're sitting off from them? Watch the Thrown sessions.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: How much I'm sitting on what just extra music? I
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: mean through I was so long ago. Man, It's like
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: I got stuff that just that's just sitting. But I
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: don't really got nothing with their vocals. Okay, you know
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: what I mean. I might have beat ideas and stuff
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: I was working on at that time, but yeah, no,
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: they you know, they ain't letting the music out like that.
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: Who was the best person you worked with? He was saying, well,
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: what was the best experience with experience?
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: Man, it's been a lot of good ones. I mean,
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: I guess I would say working on Beyonce album in
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, the Beyonce album, that job. I did a
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: bunch of stuff on there. She like, she, you know,
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: let me have that opportunity. And we went to the
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: Hamptons and we worked and I was just like that
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: was ill. No, that was that was a Beyonce album.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: They don't want the pink.
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: Oh okay, I see you this, sorry, but nah, just
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: being out there seeing that level of lifestyle and just
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: like how she creates a community with the creators that
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: she brings around, like making everybody have dinner together and
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: you know, tell each other about themselves and just like
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: really you know, getting to know the people that's around her,
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: Like that was ill.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: What's your relationship with Kanye today?
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: I don't really got one, you know what I mean?
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: But I mean I love that dude. Man, he funny
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: is a motherfucker than me. Bro, Like everything he say,
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: everything he do will be hilarious. And he I mean
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: he ad genius obviously, you know he got crazy vision
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: and uh, if he ever you know what I mean.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: If we tap in, we tap in. But it's all love.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: Is it a collaborative thing when you're in there with
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: him is more of a.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Non its it's everything, Bro, I'm bringing them. I was
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: bringing them beats, were sitting down making stuff together. We
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: was you know what I mean. He was having me
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: flip songs that he had, like putting my take on
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: it's it's everything.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't I didn't realize you come from
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: such a musically inclined family. Like I knew your dad,
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: but then I know I didn't know your uncle. Yeah, yeah,
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: Do you remember the first time you fell in love
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: with music?
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Fell in love? I mean I remember one specific time.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: I must have been four years old, maybe five, and
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: uh we was riding. My uncle had this green Mustang.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: It was ill, like, you know, green rims and all that,
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: and he had the top down and he was playing
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: NWA music and I just remember like hearing all these
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: cuss words. I'm a little kid, but I was like,
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: but it just sounded so ill like I was just
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: like I was a mesmerized by like you know what
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: I was hearing.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like you.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: Have to do for an artist from the West Coast,
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: like an old gie artist from West Coast, or maybe
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: not even oldieutist in the West Coast, but you have.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: To do for them what you did for nas.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: I mean that's got to be a dream though, right, Yeah.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: I mean I did like five six songs on Snoop
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Dogg back on Death Row, and you know, I worked
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: with Snoop. I work with Game, I worked with a
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: bunch of different I did a bunch of bunch of
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: stuff on what was the album that he dropped because
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: I worked on Easy with a Kanye Game, So whatever
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: album that was on, Uh dramatic, Yeah, the bunch of
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: shit on there. Yeah, but uh, hey man, whoever want
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: to lock in? And it makes sense Like the Nash
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: it was just it was just a genuine moment, like
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: you know, it wasn't like we chasing some industry thing
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: or it's like, bro, I need you to putt He
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: wasn't putting no pressure on me. I was putting the
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: pressure on myself more so to be like, let me
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: deliver for nas, you know what I mean. And that's
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: what pushed us to make so much music. Lights is hidden.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: Are you like nervous at some point working with because
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: he is a great and you know he's very particular.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he kind of he laid back and
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: humble and chill like me. So it's like it was
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: it was pretty easy, you know what I mean. It
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: was It was never no ego. That's why we was
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: able to do so much stuff. And I feel like
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: that's half of the thing. Like with rappers, especially like Ego.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: You know, you see a lot of people that had
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: hits with big producers and then they start working with
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: them and then they don't make no more hits like that,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: and it's like, Nigga, why didn't you just keep working
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: with this producer?
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: That's right, you know, for a producer like you who
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: can do so many different people from different places. How
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: do you feel about the regional identity conversation that Metro
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: was having, Like like we artists need to have a
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: certain sound from you.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean in this day and age, just just
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: kind of all mixed in, especially with social media. It's
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: like everybody see how everybody dress, everybody see how everybody
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: talk from different places, and it's like everything is just
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: being put into this melting pot. So I don't know,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: you know, but it's like, I mean, you got your mustards,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: you got me, you know, but I mean I kind
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: of do different sounds and shit, but you got you
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: got people that's locked in on what they do. And uh.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: But I feel like it's a new day. It's a
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: time to experiment and exploring and take advantage of that
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: melting pot and just like pull from different places, like
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: I've been working with a lot of deeper troit artist
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Shout Baby Trying. You know, I didn't work with T
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Grizzly Rio, the young o gps, like all the hood niggas,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's like I'm pulling from
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: that and then I'm bringing him into my world and
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: just kind of messing it together.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: So if the lyrics that influenced the production, or production
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: that influenced the lyric.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: It's all one thing. It's all one thing. I feel
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: like people want to hear if you hear that right
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: beat as an artist, you know, like it's like it
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: just comes to you. You ain't got to overthink it.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: I feel like, if it works, it works every every producer, can't,
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: you know, dipping dab and every genre of music or
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: have because none of your none of your stuff sound
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: the same.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: That is creative.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: That's dope, right.
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: But going to so you were saying metro Booming said
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: that you're supposed to or not you're supposed to, but
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: producers that one particular sound.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because he's basically saying that, like, because of social media,
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: everything's mixed in and it's and it's we're kind of
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: losing the feeling of like Atlanta sounded like Atlanta, New
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: York having a sound like that type of thing.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if it worked, it worked. You're one
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: of the examples of it working.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I love I love Metro Lives project that futuristic some yeah.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Man, take me through that man. I went to the
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: most Hood club in La last week. I just be
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: moving around. They was playing that and the way they
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: was turning up. I put that on my playlist, like
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: that'sh it hard.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I just like it because of the nostalgia that he provided.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: They really do sound like like a future thirteen twenty fifteen. Yeah,
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: but but it sounds like naw I see what he
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: did they didn't and the Walker Flocker records on there super.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Slept on it or who do you want to work with? Now?
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: Like who do you because you work with a lot
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: of artists that are people's dream artists to work with.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Who I want to do an album with Kodak black Man?
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: But I think that shit be soulful fly like he
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: really be rapping, he really be saying ship.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: I haven't got to really connect with him, but a
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: rock with dude, for sure.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: I always say Kodak is like I would say Kendrick's
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: evil twin with Kendrick.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Evil a twin a while. Du you you you haven't
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: reached out to him with nothing Kodak.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I have. He he rapped on the song I did
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: on Big Sean last album, but I ain't connected with
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: them on some like you know, let's really tap in,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: but you know I want to do that for so.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: You ever people feel like you ever feel like people
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: don't give your flowers because you're not like a loud
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: personality in the industry.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: I mean it could be that, but man, I'm over
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: that whole conversation. I'm over I'm over listing rankings and
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: flowers and all that shit. Bro, I'm just making the fly.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I know I'm better than I ever been, and that's
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: where my that's where the bars at for me. Like, Okay,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: if I could just keep getting better off, like I
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: know that I can like create more headspace in my
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: beats now. My eight oays literally blew out the fucking
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: sprinting speakers last night, like my oas is hidden so crazy,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: but not in a disruptive way, in a way where
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: that shit has punched you in the chest and It's
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: like I'm excited to just dig into that more, you
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, just creating the sonics. That's just
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: like I know I've advanced personally.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: You know what's the I guess most trash beat you've
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: ever made.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say trash, but I would say look, I
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: would say, bro. I didn't know niggas in Paris was
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: about to be what it was about to be. I
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: really didn't. Man. I had my homeboy, Chili Chill I
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: used to be rapping with, and you know, just working with.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: He was about to put that song out, that beat
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: out on a mixtape of his, like literally a few
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: days before. I got the email from don Cee. Don
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: See was like, y'all, I need you to send me
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: the files to this beat and I was like, damn,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: O the hommie was just about to drop something on
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: this Let me let me see. Then I got an
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: email from Yan and he was like, bro, me and
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Jay was in Paris. We made this song. He was like,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: when this song dropped, your life about to change. So
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: but I didn't even bro. I still didn't know until
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I really heard the song and got around. I went
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: to the planetarium where they did the listening party and
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Cali was there and a bunch of people was there,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: and the way they reacted when Niggas in Paris came
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: on now was when I first understood what it really was,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: you know, so, but I didn't know. I didn't know
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: that she was about to be that big.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: I know a program director who went to a washing
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Throne listening party and I was like, how was that album?
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: And it was like, it's dope, but it ain't no
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: radio hits on there. And then I remember, I remember
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: when Niggas passed. I'm like, did you go to the bathroom?
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: That's funny, man.
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: Also, this ain't no question Click as well. Click is
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: one of my favorite songs.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: How was that?
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, man, just again just getting back into I was,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: you know, signing good music at the time. So I
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: was just working on everything I could for Ya and
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: with Ya and his artists, and I think it was
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: in London we started working on that song and the
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: original beat was actually a beat I had gave Dom
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Kennedy and uh he actually put it out. It was
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: a song called CDC and they did the original demo
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: to that beat and I ended up having to tell Ya, like, man,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: my boy dom. Kennedy just dropped the song on his beat,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: so we just flipped it, took some of the sounds out,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: adding more sounds, and just turned it up, made it
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: what it was.
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: Look the vocals in the beginning, right, who is that?
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: That's James foonn Leroy legend man know that sound? Yeah?
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: You know you know James Joint on the anti a
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Rihanna album that's about that's named after James.
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: Okay, so he made those vocals specifically for Click.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah he did, yeah, yeah, yeah he yeah took that
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Joint like Yay, just gave him a bunch of stuff
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: and that was something he did over that.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, you said he was signing good music.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah I was. Yeah, that was the time too. I
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: had to sacrifice because I was already signed to Paul
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: on the Don and his managers was managing me, so
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: I was giving him twenty percent. Then when I got
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: around Yay, him and his team was like, well, we
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: want to manage you, and I was like this, you know, young, humble,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: loyal guy. So I'm like I stuck it out with
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: my other team. But I also did a thing where
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: I was getting given twenty percent to Good music. So
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: I made a sacrifice to get that brand energy just
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: to be around and just like you know, I got
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: niggas and pairs out of it. Click, I got a
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: bunch of stuff out of it. But I sacrificed. I
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: was giving up like forty percent of my money at
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: that time.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Why you wasn't making no money?
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, man, you know, shout out to no Id
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: like he always called it brand energy. It's like me
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: being associated with a lot of good came from that too.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I sacrificed, but you know, it also landed me in
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: this place where, you know, if I want to go
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: sell my catalog, if I want to you know, move
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: my music around, I can. I can do that and
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: I can make some real money. Now.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: I didn't know the polo the dumb situation even.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was signed a polo on Universal since I
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: was nineteen years old and I just got out in July.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: So would you produce with polo.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Like I was? I mean I was h I produced
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: like certain little stuff with him during those days when
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: he was you know, in his heyday. But I was
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: more so just signing him as a producer, and his
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: managers was managing me, so they was they had a
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: whole situation going, but they.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: Couldn't just release you, like once you realized it was
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: a baddy.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: I'm sure they could have, but they didn't want to,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, they like, shit, no, we
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: got him early and were about to extract as much
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: as we can. And you know, how.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Does that make you feel? Like?
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Does that does that something you take personal? Or you're
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: just like, you know what, that's business. That's what I signed.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: I mean at this point. Yeah, but I mean, bro,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I was I've been depressed for years many I've been
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: depressed going to lawyers and they're like, Yo, this is
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: the worst deal I've ever seen, you know what I
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: mean stuff like that, and they're like, well, they don't
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: want to let you out the deal or they don't
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: want to give you an amendment or whatever the case is.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: And it's like that was you know. I was like
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: chasing like maybe if I make a bigger song than
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Niggas in Paris, that I can get out this deal,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: you know, And it's like I probably fucked up certain
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: relationships like that, like just trying to put pressure on
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: different artists and trying to like just just do too much.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: I guess you know what I mean. But it never
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: was about that. I was just in that contract. That's
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: just what it was. That's why I'm just happy at
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: hell to be out now man.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: And all that.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah he did, damn yeah he did for sure.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Great business, great for sure.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: I mean I did too, though, you know, it is
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: what it is. I just talked to Polo last like, man,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: solid dude, got love for him. He gave me opportunity.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: I've made a lot happen with that opportunity, and I'm
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: just taking that knowledge down to the to the next phase.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: And that's why I'm starting this foundation. I just started
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: a foundation called the Next Hits. So it's like the
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: next Hit Boys or the next Hit Songs, however you
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: want to look at it. Just you know, helping underserve
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: communities and kids. That's like got dads that's locked up
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: like my dad was locked up and teaching them about
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: the business, the business side, the engineering, recording, producing, whatever
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: they want to do.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Up.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: His name is always coming up and I didn't know
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: he was. He signed h came Brown, No, No, he
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: got it here man, he'd be out here for sure.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: So when did you get out the good music situation?
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: All of this this happened.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, I was. I was only in a
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: good music situation for like two years, for like two years,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: and just you know, ran through that. But I mean
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: even with my deal, like Yay wanted to be involved
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: in that. And I went to Jimmy iving you know,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: he went to Jimmy Iveen too, and it was basically like, well,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Jimmy told him like this is up to hit Boy,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: And Jimmy came to me like, well, do you want
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: to be your own man? Do you really want to
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: learn the game or do you want to keep being
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: up under somebody else? So I just like kind of
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: I lost that brand energy, but I just got to
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: really get on that road to learning about you know,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: running a labels. You know how the money is being
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: spent marketing and all this shit. Like I understand it
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: a lot better now, so you know, I just you know,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: I had to. I just been pushing for these last
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: you know, however many years.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: So you got you're dropping a solo album. You got
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: you got some projects coming out out on this in October,
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: but you're dropping a solo album in November.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Software update, software updates. Just like That's where I'm at period.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Just update myself, like the therapy aspect, like you know,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: being a better dad, being a better you know what
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, just dressing better, whatever the case is. Just
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: update my software, you know, I mean, getting smarter, educating
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: myself more, whatever it is.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: How do you protect your mental health? And the industry
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: that's all about constant output. They always want something from you.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I lived my real life. Man. I
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: had got off of social media for like the whole
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five since like January. I just got back
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: on in July, and man, it made me realize a lot,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: like I'm actually living an incredible life, you know what
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I mean. You might look at somebody else and be like,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: oh man, this person got a bigger mansion. This person
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: got a you know, a bigger fleet of cars, Like
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: none of that shit matter, you know what I mean.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: If I look around like I got my son, I'm
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: a real dad. I got my son full time. Like
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: if you if this was in LA, he'll probably be
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: sitting right here with us, you know what I mean,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: He's everywhere when I got him. So yeah, man, life
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: is a life is amazing.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Right now, say understand boundaries? Yeah, what did that look
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: like what did that looks like.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Being taken advantage of? You know what I mean, just
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: anybody who needed something at any time, you know, even
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: if they deserve it. I just was open arms, just
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: giving to people and like even family whatever, you know,
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: just learning how to say no, learning how to just
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: understand that I'm not the worst person in the world
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: if I do say no. You know what I mean,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: it is what it is like. You know, I'm out
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: here hustling, I'm out here doing what I gotta do.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: I'm pushing around. I'm in New York doing interview at
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: the interview and just like session after session, like you know,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: I got to take care of myself, make sure my
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: mind's straight first. And when I do got it, I'm
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: I'm a very generous person, you know what I mean.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: I help a lot of people. I do a lot
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: for people, but I got to make sure i'm straight first. Well,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: I think the best go ahead.
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: I think the best thing that you're doing is that
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: foundation that you just you just name the name of it.
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: The next hits the next I think that's helping, you know,
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: kids who want to learn the business, you know, does
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: not have their father that you know, I think that's
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: pretty dope and proud of you.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Appreciate that. Yeah. Yeah, we just getting started, man, and
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: going to push it to the max. Yeah.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: What have your conversation has been like with your dads?
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: Just about the business side of it since you've come
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: up out of the things you said with my dad.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's the whole thing right there, man. Like, man,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: he got out, we hit the ground running. He was
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: making bred I was trying to educate him. I'm taking
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: him to my accountant and wealth manager offices. And he
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: just lives a different life.
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: He don't differentiate prison from real life like he can.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: I'm cool in here, I'm cool out there, you know.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: And it's like I don't live like that. Like I
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: can imagine being around niggas all day. I couldn't. I
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: couldn't imagine it. So it's like, that's that's just him.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: And I try to, you know, show him, teach him,
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: put him on like put him in the most comfortable
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: situation possible, and that still couldn't change his mind. And
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: that was like my eye opening for me. Like, and
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: you know, you could do anything for a person, and
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: if they're not ready to accept it, they're not ready
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: to move forward with how they think there's nothing you
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: could do about it, you know, so that just how
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: does that? How does that hurt you? Oh?
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Man?
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: I mean every time it's like worse and worse. Because
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: this time when he got out, Bro, he do a song.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: He was on the fucking stage with Kendrick at the
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: pop out holding my son. It's a picture Kendrick, my
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: son and my dad on stage at the pop out,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: did songs with Snoop Dogg, did a whole album with
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: the game that went number one on iTunes. He did
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: a bunch of shit, and for him to go back
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: this time, it probably hurt the worst cause I'm like, Bro,
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: like you actually was gett into it, getting respect, getting love,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: getting money, all the shit, and it's like you still
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: ended up back in there. It's like that's where the
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: software update comes from. Like I got to update my software.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: I gotta start playing with my life. I gotta just
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: take me more serious, you know, instead of always pouring
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: into everybody else as much.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: As I do. Have you offered him help, like you know,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: listen many not for sure?
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: We didn't, man, Bro, We didn't talk about it at all.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Like I'm like I might have to take him to
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: the most random middle of America city and just like
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: where it's no action, and bring a therapist and just
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: like work out all day and make music. Man Like,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: that's probably the only way to save him, you know
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: what I mean, He'll probably find some bullshit out there
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: if everybody still finds something to get into the institution.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: He is man for shure, I mean, bro, Like, he
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: had a plea deal to not even have the three
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: years he just got now, and he said he would
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: rather be in prison than be on the streets on
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: probation because he can get washed up for a longer
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: time that way, I guess, but I couldn't imagine that, man,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And it's like, well, you
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: don't want my health, then, you know what I mean,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: I pay for the Lord to get you the plea deal.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: You want to, you know, do your thing. So how
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: A mean when you get out, bro? How mean when
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: you get out?
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: What kind of friction is that cause between the father
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: and the sundow get the business?
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I mean it's deep, bro, It's deep. And
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: that's the friction where it's like, I'm all I've always
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: been forgiven, I've always been like, you know, their form,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: sending breasts, sending help, whatever the case is. And this
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: is the one time where I'm like, it's got to
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: be tough. Love, bro, holl at me when you get out,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: because I did everything. I paid for the high priced lawyer.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: I flew to North Carolina where the case was God
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: on the stand, talk to the judge, spend my time
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: out there, time away from my son, all this shit,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: and you still win against everything that I, you know,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: put the energy into. And I'm like, well, bro, I
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: gotta focus on me. Period.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Does he have a sentim entitlement?
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you do. Yeah, yeah, show And I made
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: it so easy all these years, and it's like, yeah,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: no I can't. I can't play them games no more.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: Mm hm so crazy.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: What do you think about AI?
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Like, how's AI gonna impact the production process?
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Man? I think it's a dope tool man. Don't use
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: it as a crutch. Don't press a button and then
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: get a person to beat and be like that shit.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Like you know, if you press that button and you
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: hear something dope, try to flip it as if you
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: was just listening to a sample off the radio or
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: a sample off a record, whatever the case is. Just
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: it's a tool. Man, I'm rocking with it.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Oh you know when you say press a button, what
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: do you mean?
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Like it's like you could just literally programs where it's
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: like you could type some in press the button and
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: it give you like an outline of what you typed in,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: whether it's a like make a hit boy beat, make
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: an East Coast hip hop nineteen ninety nine type beat,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: and it'll give you something that's in that area type
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: you know, vibe. But you know, I don't think you
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: should just take that and be like, oh boom my
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: eight this. I mean you could. I'm sure it's happening.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: I'm sure i'd be hearing music on the radio. Like, man,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: it sounds like it could be a sometimes, but you know,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know. But yeah, I think it's an ill
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: tool if you use it the right way and just
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: use it as a tool, not a crutch.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: So it's has sparked some creativity, yeah for sure.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Like you know, it's like I use it kind of
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: like how I would use MIDI Like, if I play
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: a piano progression and I want to turn into some
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: like strings, I could just bo and run it through
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: that and I could take them strings and then chop
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: them up and make it, you know, into his own thing.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: What do you think about artists though? Artists? I mean, man,
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: I feel like K pop, Demon Hunters, is AI, you know,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: all the kids. It sounds like I can't even get
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: one song off in the card no more. I be
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: trying to play my music. My son, like, nah, play
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: a soda pop play you know. I'm like, man, damn it.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: It's humbling, you know what I mean. But it's also
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: eye opening, Like, man, this is doing numbers? Like what
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: am I missing? But I don't know, but it sounds
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: like you to me.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but I know everything they do is
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: just like magic.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Like it goes up for them kids.
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: Numbers you're listening with the different pair is though you
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: got producers something.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just listening. I'm messing around with AI
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: and the listening to that, it just it sounds like
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: it's an AI and it might not be. I don't
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: want to disrespect the creatives that's behind that, but it's like,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: you know, that's just how I feel.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: I've got a couple more questions you have. You have
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: a give an artist beat you knew was dope and
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: they just completely wasted.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: It plenty times. I ain't gonna put no names out there,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: but you know I was. It was. It's certain songs
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: that I just wish would have been like actual hits,
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: like Watch and Learn for Rihanna, like every girl I
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: run into, like that's my favorite Rihanna song and it's like, damn,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: that should have been a hit, or like right here
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: with Justin Bieber and Drake, Like I don't understand why
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: them songs wasn't like top ten or whatever, but that's
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: part of the game.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Learn is my jazz.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I wish. I mean, you know, we all wish, but
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: I wish Nipsey had to pass on.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Oh man, come on man. I feel like Racks in the.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Middle was a perfect follow up the Victory bro.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: That was his whole vision. Like he came to me
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: and uh, I was actually about to put that song out.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: It was gonna be It was gonna be on my
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: production album. I was about to do like a calid
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: esque type album, different feature and different artists, and that
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: was gonna be me featuring Roddy Rich. Rddy had a
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: verse on there, and we was about to we literally
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: starting the paperwork process, and I low key had Nit
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: pull up. I wanted to him to throw a verse
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: on it. He heard the song, he was like, Bro,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: run that back. I ran it back. He's like, man,
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: let me get this joint.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: He was like, this could be the perfect song to
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: like push, you know, into my next rollout you know,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: post victory lap. And I'm like, I'm just like cool,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: let's run it, you know what I mean. And he
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: came through. He did the song. It was a movie
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: like him doing three verses talking about the stuff he
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: was talking about and laying it on the line like that.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: And for that to play out that way, it was
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: just a movie for me, man like insane and I
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: was looking for I was talking to Nip every day.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: We texted at six in the morning, you know, top
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: of the morning, just like sending samples back and forth.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: I'm sending him beats I had just made. We talking
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: about He's telling me he wanted me to be involved
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: in this next project heavy and for that to you know,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: you know happened, how it happened. It was super fucked
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: up man, sad time for real.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because on rack that's what he talks about your fat.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, that was airy, bro. It was in
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: a way to beat sound with the choirs and all
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: that and just him walking through the graveyard like man,
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: nuts nuts. It was dope though. I don't know. At
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: the video shoot, I got to meet his grandmother. We
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: was on the private jet kicking it. They drinking champagne.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: I was flying, like being able to experience that.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: I remember that picture. Yeah, I remember when he posted
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: that picture.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: I was there. I'm in the video. I mean, that
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: was my that's my mcclearen, like next to the other
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: car in front of the private jet.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: That's what you would have ended up, like what you
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: did with NAS, that would have been I agree.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: I don't think I think we would have did damage
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: the damage man. Like, I feel like Racks in the
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Middle is still one of the most like revolutionary West
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Coast beats from the modern era, you know what I mean.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's where if I was to think about,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: like if Dre was actually gonna make Detox, I think
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: it should sound like Racks in the Middle level like,
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: you know, because it's got that that West Coast like,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: you know, drag on it, but it's still sound new,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: you know, you got to push it forward.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: You want me for that too.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we did a bitter sweet man crazy. But but
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: the good thing is like when we made the song,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: you felt like that. We felt like, man, this is
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Grammy level. We was playing that joint back to back.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: We was turned up in the stool. Was really feeling that.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: So for it to it was just validating like them,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: like Nip was on, he was right on, spot on,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: People really embraced the loss of people really realize how
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: big of a lost that was, especially for the West Coast.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: I think, so I think the world, you know, you know,
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, obviously when you know it's
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: fucked up, and when people passed, they get even bigger.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: More people tap in. So it's like, you know, his
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: legacy is spreaded, and you see what Black Sam doing.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: He's taking a brand and just like turning it into
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: you know, a monster.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: It's amazing. So yeah, man, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 5: I'm glad that you are like making yourself seen and
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: I hope you do a lot more present because I'm
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  Speaker 5: tired of.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Googling your name. Stories of boys actually being hit come up.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that time for sure, what's hard at making
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: a beat that gives a rapper of a hit or
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: making a beat that gives them like a career.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say revival with like resurgence.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: It's all the same thing. I'm just making music. I
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: don't I never meant to make a hit. I just
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: made music that I felt, you know. And most of
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: my hits that that y'all would know me for it
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: came from me just being in the stool, just damnar
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: by myself, just cooking up, having fun.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: That's what this production shit has always been about for me,
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: just literally having fun.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: At this point in your career, are you making music
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: for money, for legacy or just because you you can't stop?
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: It's what you know, all the above uneath the bread
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to you know, I mean the legacy, that's
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: just it's gonna shape up. It's gonna be what it's
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: gonna be, and I just I just love to do it,
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like I said, like, I
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: love when I feel my own growth. I love when
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: I feel myself advancing and being able to do certain
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: things that I wanted to do five years ago musically
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: that I can now accomplish and now I can now
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: you know, fully manipulating being these sounds as the ways
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: that I can make them do whatever I want to.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And if hit Boy stop producing to day, what
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: do you think? What do you think the game would lose?
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Man? Some authenticity. It's just like just raw like you
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: know my I mean, bruh, I just like I said,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: I shoot from the hip every time, like I don't.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know how. I don't know how to make
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: a hit. I'm just making music and it should just
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: be coming. What is becoming like, you know, just being
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: able to see some of these songs performed in stadiums
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: and watching Beyonce, watching whole watching you know, Travis Kendrick
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: doing backseat freestyle still on his tour like it's ill,
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, just like and it's still
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: rocking as if it just dropped. It's like, man, you
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: just gotta make what you feel in it. You know.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: I've been making some stuff that's you know, timeless. Have
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: you got anything but Kendrick tuck Away. I'll be chopping
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: them with bro man. That's why I'll be telling people, man,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: it's crazy. So my little was my son at he
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: five years old. Now before his fourth birthday, he made
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: he made a song. He made his first song because
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: he was in most of the sessions with me and I.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: I was just sitting in the back. Didn't realize he
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: was taking this all in. Told him, you know, I
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: asked him, did he want to make a song for
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: his birthday? Put him on the mic. He literally freestyled
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: with contexts. I was laughing. It was crazy. But put
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: the song out with a video, and I think it
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: was the day not like us drop. And that's how
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: I knew Kendrick was just like this was light work
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: for him. This whole ship. Like he text me about
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: my son video like go ahead, nephew, Like you know
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: what I mean? You know what I mean. It's like
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: bro like in the middle. I'm like this nigga Like
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: he crazy? He really crazy? He cool though, well hip
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: boy and spank Niitty James, y'all got y'all coming out
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: of Shout my boys, spank Man, shout out him man
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: the whole Inland Empire.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Whatsank where you from?
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: He's from him He's from deep into II.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Show that's in like east of l A, like like
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: an hour east of LA. That's where we all kind
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: of came up. I grew up in Pasadena, but when
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: I was thirteen, I moved to the I E. And
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: that's where I learned how to make beats and all
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: that shit. So it was vital. But I was sad
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: when I first moved out of Dina for sure. But yeah,
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: the II, that's you know, a lot of homies out there.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: And then but you and Alchemists got it. I'm coming
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: out October twenty fourth.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got an album and a movie you that
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: I feel like it's gonna make people look at us
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: in a whole different light.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then a solo I'm called Software Update.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm excited, bro. It's like it's it's it's genuine.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: It's coming from a place of like this shit coming
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: from our soul. Man. So like I'm just like looking
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: forward to, you know, letting people see me in a
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: different light and just like pushing you know what I've
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: done forward.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're free now Free.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: It's amazing, hit Free. I just threw like a million
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: dollar party in the l A last week and shot
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: a video with az Chike Baby trying to spank and
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: that was the illest we had Marathon Burger up there.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: We had this whole eat Couch activation because we got
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: the song called eat Couch and it was it was crazy.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: It's like smashing the girl on the couch from the
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: back of her faces in the couch. So she eating
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: the couch.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Pillow for that. Here's a pillow.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: No no, no, no, I sink is just funny. When
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: he said he couch, man, that's that just had me
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: laughing so hard. I'm like, we got to put this
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: joint out, man.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Why the hell is the party a million dollars because.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: It was a celebration eighteen years. Man, I'm like, I
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: gotta go all out. I just went crazy. I just
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: had all types of activations. I had, you know, hood
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Taco spots, Marathon Berger, you know, just a lot of
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: fly ship going or man.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: That's what it's hit boy, man, thank you for coming, my.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Brother for suw appreciate you, man, Yes, sir, every day.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: A week, click yours up the breakfast club. You're finished
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: for y'all dumb