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A Father's Fake Death for Faraway Love w/ Jay Jurden · Scam Goddess

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  Speaker 1: Scal Come.
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  Speaker 2: Rob from scam, Come rob fro Goddess was Pope and Congregation,
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  Speaker 2: it's your girl, Scam Goddess aka Lacey Moseley back with
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  Speaker 2: the podcast all about robbery, fraud and those who practice it.
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  Speaker 2: It's a comedy show and y'all already know. I'm what, Yes, excited, thrilled, elated.
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  Speaker 2: My guest today is a dear friend, a brilliant comedian,
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  Speaker 2: and an incredible actor. He's also a former staff writer
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  Speaker 2: on the hit show The Problem with John Stewart. He's
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  Speaker 2: joining us for a quick podcast pitstop in the middle
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  Speaker 2: of his nothing Special stand up tour. His debut special
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  Speaker 2: Yes ma'am, just dropped on Hulu on November seventh. Congregation,
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  Speaker 2: please welcome the absolute gem back to the show.
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  Speaker 3: Jay Jordaans, thank you for having me. Let the church
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  Speaker 3: say amen. A so happy as a guest Preacher. I
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  Speaker 3: want to say, I'm not gonna hold y'all along, but
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  Speaker 3: I got some stuff to get off my chest.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and honestly, that is a telltale sign that you
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  Speaker 2: are gonna hold people along.
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  Speaker 1: Church. I ain't gonna hold you along.
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  Speaker 3: I hold y'all two hours later, right, I ain't going y'all.
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  Speaker 3: So that was the first verse I wanted to dissect.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get to this set. Okay, everyone turned to Ephesians.
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  Speaker 3: We in Ephesians, Oh God, we in the we in
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  Speaker 3: the Corinthians.
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  Speaker 1: I don't live in Corinth, co Li in Corinth.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy. Well, so I have to ask you up top,
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  Speaker 2: what is your relationship with scams right now?
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  Speaker 1: Like it gives me?
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  Speaker 2: You love them, you hate them? Something you went through?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm breaking news. I don't know if someone tries
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  Speaker 3: to scam me. Today there was a reservation sent in
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  Speaker 3: my email. I caught up the same hotel. I'm not
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  Speaker 3: gonna golw the hotel spot up. I said, I didn't
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  Speaker 3: book this, take this off, cancel this. Whoever booked it?
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  Speaker 3: They said, oh great, thank you for letting us know.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, do you have a minute to stay
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  Speaker 3: on the phone to hear about our survey. We're also
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  Speaker 3: going to offer.
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  Speaker 1: You some points.
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  Speaker 3: I said, are y'all doing this so that people listen
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  Speaker 3: to this? I was concerned. So there was something that
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  Speaker 3: was scam adjacent that happened to me today, I say
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  Speaker 3: a bigger thing scam related. Right now, I'm seeing a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people, and I'm saying that the central commedian.
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  Speaker 3: I'm seeing a lot of people who they don't have
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  Speaker 3: an hour of shit worth to say. They scamming these
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  Speaker 3: folks on the road. They got twenty minutes of stuff
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  Speaker 3: to say, and they're making you.
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  Speaker 1: Pay full price. You get there.
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  Speaker 3: They got seven sometimes you know, seven openers. They they
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  Speaker 3: got five of their friends doing fifteen twenty minutes. You
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  Speaker 3: see this headliner, that headliner only doing twenty minutes. They're
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  Speaker 3: supposed to be doing forty five minutes.
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  Speaker 1: That's per the contract.
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  Speaker 2: Are you telling me that I've been wasting my time
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  Speaker 2: building an hour because these people have been scamming you
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  Speaker 2: open these people you can have do crowd work for
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  Speaker 2: thirty minutes and then I do like it ten minutes.
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  Speaker 1: So you could do you could you could have your
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  Speaker 1: You can have six of your friends do ten.
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  Speaker 3: They got their hour. You come out and say we
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  Speaker 3: had a good show. Then with folks, bye, everyone, have
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  Speaker 3: a good drive.
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  Speaker 1: Sec take a picture with me that merches extra way,
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  Speaker 1: Oh hey, that merches extra. You go ahead and I can.
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  Speaker 2: Examine how you get a picture with me, Like you
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  Speaker 2: go by your little merch and then.
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  Speaker 1: I'll take a little picture with shit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they scamming folks out here when it comes They
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  Speaker 3: scamming folks when it comes to some of these shows.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's upsetting because comedy is, especially in this time,
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  Speaker 2: it's supposed to be a relief. It's supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: something that people can go enjoy while the world is burning.
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  Speaker 2: And y'all, y'all out here scamming the comedy.
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  Speaker 3: I saw something online that says, so many people now
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  Speaker 3: in this age of sort of like get it while
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  Speaker 3: you can get it, They are treating paying customers and
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  Speaker 3: patrons like they are custos, aka, like they are people
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  Speaker 3: who are addicted to their product. You can't treat comedy
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  Speaker 3: fans the same way you treat people who are buying.
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  Speaker 1: Crap from you.
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  Speaker 2: That's trash, that is s tresh.
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  Speaker 1: You can't treat people who patronize your restaurant the same
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  Speaker 1: way you treat people who you look down upon because you're.
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  Speaker 3: Selling them drugs. Be a better business person, Stop trying
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  Speaker 3: to scam these folks.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that scares me because I've known a few drug
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  Speaker 2: dealers in my lifetime, and one of my questions for
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  Speaker 2: them was always like, how do you sell drugs?
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  Speaker 1: Like you know, like famously them drugs tell themselves.
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  Speaker 2: Well beyond that. Also, it's like with fentanyl coming into
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  Speaker 2: the drug community and being in everything, because like why
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  Speaker 2: is fentanyl and cocaine that's not it. It don't even
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  Speaker 2: make sense, like finale is a downer and cocaine is
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be an upper. And like I was talking
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  Speaker 2: to them and I was like, how do you do this?
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  Speaker 2: And he was like, you know, it was a he
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  Speaker 2: it was many many's And they were like, well, I
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  Speaker 2: can't look at my customers as people, like they're just
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  Speaker 2: a number, Like I give them the drugs and then
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  Speaker 2: I'm moving on there just a number.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, what I want people to know
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  Speaker 3: if comedies, if comedy is something you want to do,
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  Speaker 3: you have to care about these people who are paying
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  Speaker 3: money to come see.
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  Speaker 2: You can be drug dealer.
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  Speaker 1: I scam.
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  Speaker 3: I got it out of my scam them again. When
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  Speaker 3: I'm tricking folks, I'm tricking folks. Have I ever done
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  Speaker 3: something scam me?
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  Speaker 1: You know? Sure?
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  Speaker 3: I'll trye to light on myself every now on Instagram stories,
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  Speaker 3: you're gonna see a picture of me in various states
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  Speaker 3: of undress with a link and the link. The emojis
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  Speaker 3: on the link will be like chili pepper, double emoji,
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  Speaker 3: wink emoji, squirt emoji, tongue out. That's a link to
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  Speaker 3: tickets to my show. It's not an only fans. Am
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  Speaker 3: I scamming a little a tiny amount a touch.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a scam. You just get
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  Speaker 2: the people.
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  Speaker 3: Going, well they so, I mean multiple people have said, oh,
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  Speaker 3: not an only fans.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I go whoa, you guess I gave.
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  Speaker 2: You the speedo pig right, you didn't even have to
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  Speaker 2: pay for it.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't even have to pay for it. I know
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  Speaker 1: you're breaking my heart. You guess.
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  Speaker 3: You guess it's crazy, But it is that weird sort
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  Speaker 3: of and it's tied to the theme of the show.
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  Speaker 3: There is this kind of pre revolent notion that you
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  Speaker 3: can always sort of get over on people.
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  Speaker 2: You can mean, you were talking about it with stand
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  Speaker 2: Up with the extra openers.
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  Speaker 1: Why y'all got extra?
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  Speaker 3: When you when you to okay, when you start to
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  Speaker 3: like notice in the audience, if you're if you're seeing
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  Speaker 3: in the audience and you go, okay, that person, okay,
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  Speaker 3: that's the host, all right in this person Okay, that's
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  Speaker 3: that's the feature. Okay, maybe this person to guest spot. Well,
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  Speaker 3: what's another friend?
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  Speaker 1: Now we got four people? What is another person? Five people?
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  Speaker 2: What is that?
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  Speaker 3: We got the Jackson's up there? You yeah, wait a second,
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  Speaker 3: hold on. It's the equivalent of whenever you whenever you
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  Speaker 3: go to the club. People used to go to clubs.
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  Speaker 3: I hope they still do, you like when.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a scamsel, like you have to buy real estate
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  Speaker 2: in the club. My god, you to a club and
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  Speaker 2: be dancing and grinding on a stranger and it was
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  Speaker 2: a good time. Now you go, you gotta pay for
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  Speaker 2: a couch, and then you gotta pay for overpriced alcohol.
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  Speaker 3: We what we gotta start doing imminent domain in the club.
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  Speaker 3: We gotta take away people's little sections. We gotta move
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  Speaker 3: in and say y'all can have this. It's messing up
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  Speaker 3: the neighborhood, cauz. What are we doing If people can't
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  Speaker 3: go to clubs, if songs can't break in clubs anymore,
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  Speaker 3: songs have to break on TikTok every songle comes thirty seconds.
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  Speaker 1: So now I'm listening to Chief keep. I said this
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  Speaker 1: song only a minute in twenty nine seconds? What the
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  Speaker 1: hell's wrong with you. Dj Mustard and Chief keep you've
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  Speaker 1: you've scammed me too.
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  Speaker 2: Taste the music. Now you can't even have a full
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  Speaker 2: of music.
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  Speaker 1: Don't be like this is the extended version. It's three minutes.
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  Speaker 2: That's the normal linked of assault.
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  Speaker 1: They gonna I added two extra versus from the one.
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  Speaker 1: Now we getting three.
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  Speaker 3: They cutting, They skimming it off the top, they cut.
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  Speaker 3: Everything's waded down. Drinks watered down, you know, I mean
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  Speaker 3: Bala vodka.
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  Speaker 2: You're paying, Oh, you're paying like twenty times the actual
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  Speaker 2: worth of it when you buy in the club.
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  Speaker 3: Like you say, and then you go, Hey, make sure
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  Speaker 3: y'all get pictures of this. I need people to see
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  Speaker 3: that I'm doing it like this. I ain't gonna do
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  Speaker 3: it again for a while.
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  Speaker 1: Get some pictures, Get some sparklers.
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  Speaker 2: You're doing a photo shoot. Yeah, ain't I want to
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  Speaker 2: having fun?
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  Speaker 1: No more.
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  Speaker 3: You can't even dance to y K nice because you
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  Speaker 3: gotta get this TikTok.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta get this real. You got the store time.
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  Speaker 1: It is my too.
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  Speaker 3: You know where they don't do that, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: and shot out to this community, shot out to shout
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  Speaker 3: out to all the queer folks because you know, where
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  Speaker 3: that doesn't happen at the gay clubs. Gay clubs they
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  Speaker 3: go off sometimes at Bulldogs in Atlanta, they.
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  Speaker 1: Go off too much.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe it's a fight, okay, at so maybe maybe it's
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  Speaker 3: some sissies fighting. But I would must try to have
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  Speaker 3: every now and then a couple of sissy fights and
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  Speaker 3: still be able to dance and commune with community. Said again, scammed.
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  Speaker 2: And also those fights are inspirational because they're happening because
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  Speaker 2: of the music. Like if nothing comes on, I am
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  Speaker 2: gonna be ready to fight. Like I don't want to fight,
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  Speaker 2: but the inspiration, the fighting spirit will rise in me.
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  Speaker 3: And you know what, And I hope people have their
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  Speaker 3: ears and their hearts open to this. Because the Psalmist said,
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  Speaker 3: we knucking, we bucking, We're ready to fight.
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  Speaker 2: What do you mean?
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  Speaker 1: And David danced before the Lord. Did you not dance?
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  Speaker 1: If Diamond said we knocking in bucket, then we knocking
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  Speaker 1: in bucking.
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  Speaker 2: You hear one of these that elbow hit somebody, They're like,
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  Speaker 2: why you hit me? And I'm like, bitch, why are
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  Speaker 2: you mad?
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  Speaker 1: Little little scrapping and say we were head caressors.
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  Speaker 2: He said, we would have buses exactly, Okay, and honestly,
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  Speaker 2: those fights I'm never gonna be mad at because their inspiration.
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  Speaker 2: There is pression, y'all. Y'all caught the spirit in the
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  Speaker 2: spirit of violence. WHOA took out there?
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  Speaker 1: That is okay, that is the holy ghost.
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  Speaker 2: It's the holy ghost. People don't want to talk about
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  Speaker 2: the violent Holy ghost, but like it's there. It's there.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes you need a whoop pass sco cod. So let's
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: get into the historic hoodwink. This is where I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to regale day with the famous Concaper, a group of criminals.
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: We'll see if he likes them, if he hates them, like,
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: we'll get his opinions all throughout. Today we're talking about
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  Speaker 2: a Wisconsin cabinet maker named Ryan Bourgward. He faked his
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  Speaker 2: own death in a kayaking accident to run away from
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  Speaker 2: his wife and three kids so he could start a
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: new life at an Eastern European like with an Eastern
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  Speaker 2: European woman he met online.
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  Speaker 3: I already love this because usually when you hear Wisconsin
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  Speaker 3: and you see a picture like this, he dine took
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  Speaker 3: the wife and the babies out with him. But this
• 12:08
  Speaker 3: man had enough common courtesy to fake his own death,
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  Speaker 3: not lay a hand on the single one of those
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  Speaker 3: people in his family and get out of the way.
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  Speaker 3: Are we not recently in the business of telling man,
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  Speaker 3: get the hell out.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not mad at this man so far.
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: You didn't take the family annihilator route. Yeah, we've seen
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  Speaker 2: time and time again. And then they put up that
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: photo with them all on a jet ski. Yeah, he
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  Speaker 2: had murdered everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Shout out to Zach Fox for doing investigative journalism when
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  Speaker 3: he posts.
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  Speaker 1: When he tweeted that.
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  Speaker 2: But like this is beautiful. It was that's what family
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  Speaker 2: annihilators have been up to. So he was like, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to annihilate them. I'm gonna just annihilate myself.
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  Speaker 1: And not even really do that.
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  Speaker 3: He he quick with the with the if you watch
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  Speaker 3: you get a monster reborn card. He said, I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to Europe.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it's like also women out there, men are a scam,
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  Speaker 2: y'all know, Like, and then once they get you pregnant,
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  Speaker 2: they change up on you, they switch up on you,
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  Speaker 2: and now you got to you gotta be a single mom,
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: but you married married single moms is like my new
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  Speaker 2: favorite TikTok like trend that I've been looking at.
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  Speaker 3: Lacy that is Wow, what a perfect end. That's a
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  Speaker 3: perfect encapitalization of what does happen when some of these
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  Speaker 3: men scam. So like me and my husband we got married,
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  Speaker 3: I we had lived together for a very long time.
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  Speaker 3: Some of these women that go, oh, we get married
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  Speaker 3: and live with that man, what are you doing talking
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  Speaker 3: about always gona buy a plus together? And y'all both
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  Speaker 3: got jobs and now you clean up after him.
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  Speaker 2: Or they're like, oh, well, you don't have to work anymore,
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  Speaker 2: Like I'll do the work and you stay at home.
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  Speaker 2: And they don't consider being at home and watch your
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  Speaker 2: dishes and cooking and doing all the stuff they do.
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  Speaker 2: They don't consider that work. I'm like, no, that's work,
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  Speaker 2: Like you need to pay you, Like, what are you
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  Speaker 2: gonna do when you find a younger version of you
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: and you ain't got no money?
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  Speaker 1: And whenever someone talks about how great that is, I go, oh,
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  Speaker 1: your grandma never kept it real with you. Talk about granny.
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: You didn't talk to your grandma at all.
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: Because grandma's granny's they everyone loves to romanticize that, like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: all of our grannies they stayed with their husbands. Baby,
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: they couldn't get a credit card they couldn't own property,
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: they couldn't leave, and your grandpa died mysteriously. It's probably
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  Speaker 2: your grandma who did it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she put some anna freezing and black eyed peas.
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: That's not she put in. She puts some artsnic in
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  Speaker 1: them collars. We know what happened.
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  Speaker 3: No, and if you are black, it's if you are
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  Speaker 3: a black person, your granny still already worked.
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  Speaker 1: My grandma worked and like had to be a homemaker.
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  Speaker 3: So like it is this like wild scam that people go, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna find this, I'm gonna find this protector type man.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: It's tough because a lot of those men with those
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  Speaker 3: traditional ass values, they also they be having traditional ass
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  Speaker 3: anger management problems too. They be coming home, they come
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  Speaker 3: home screaming, like it's the fifties. They got n they
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  Speaker 3: got traditional violence you want to talk about. They really
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  Speaker 3: put the mad and mad men they come home angry.
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  Speaker 3: Let's ready to slap you around, yo.
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  Speaker 2: You don't need that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, get you get you a little weak man
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  Speaker 3: that like to fold his own clothes.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Honestly, Jay, like I date men and women, but
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  Speaker 2: I will not date a man that I don't think
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  Speaker 2: I can beat in a fight.
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  Speaker 3: That's how lazy is. When you're at the club, you
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  Speaker 3: slop box real quick. Let me see, let me see
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  Speaker 3: what you're joking.
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  Speaker 2: But I legit have done that. The last man that
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  Speaker 2: I kissed were he was like oho, I was like yeah,
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  Speaker 2: box and he started he put his hands up and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, he was like give me a one,
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  Speaker 2: give me a three, give me five like I was
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  Speaker 2: like yeah, yeah yeah. And then were kids. But I
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  Speaker 2: was like, I can beat your ass.
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  Speaker 3: Like this is beautiful me and lay Me and Lacey
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  Speaker 3: at the club we kicked out wipe Lacy arm wrestling
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  Speaker 3: folks again.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Why would get kicked out of the club.
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  Speaker 3: Lacey was giving niggas Indian burns and Niggasah.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta make sure. I gotta make sure. So let's
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  Speaker 2: talk about the Lake Escape Lake Escape Jay So. On
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  Speaker 2: the night of August eleven, twenty twenty four, dad of
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  Speaker 2: three Ryan left his family home in Watertown, Wisconsin. And
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Watertown yeah he needed to leave there. That is a
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Hallmark movie name. You live in Watertown with Startertown, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you gotta leave.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Is this Pokemon? Am I gonna have the Battle of
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Garridos and water Town?
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  Speaker 2: Watertown means you gotta leave, because like, what kind of
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: town do you live?
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Like water town? No water name?
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Like small town? Like what?
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Like why so here in Wheatville, USA?
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Hasweetville. It's hello, we built? Like what what are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? You need to leave.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: So he drove fifty miles away to Green Lake for
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: some night kayaking. And you know how you need a
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: kayak in the night. You know, night you need a kayak.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: You hit with the urge, Yeah, the the urge, you
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: wake up out, you wake up out of your sleep.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I got a kayak.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, night yaking, you gotta.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: You gotta do it is I didn't have some yack
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: at night, but it's kanyak.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: I ain't had no kayak.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: See, And that's what's wrong. You need to get into that.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: He texted his wife Emily at ten thirty six pm
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: that he may have snuck out on a lake.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: This is his wife, Emily. Y'all look y'all, look cute, y'all,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: look happy it is.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: I don't want to be I don't want to be relationship. Okay,
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: this is what I did want to get into, but
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: I didn't want to say I'm glad you broke it.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've dated enough gay men to know, Like, when
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Know what's going on, he does look like he is
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: scheming in the wedding photo. Maybe not a gay scheme,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: but he's scheming. The shoulders are raised.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know a gay scheme.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: She's smiling from her heart. He's like, she don't even know.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Do we see it?
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: I feel I feel a gay scheme to me, like, yeah,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it like he wanted the facade, and
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: then he was like, I'm sick of this shit. I
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: don't want this and I'll take a kayaki okay, which
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: is dramatic and of our people. You could have did
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: a regular death at home. You need to drive fifty miles,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: but you sent a text to set the seed.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well because a text here. Okay, I might have
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: snuck out. Stop being stop being silly. Stop giving me riddles.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: You may have snuck out. You snuck out he he
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: he you know.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: He he hed ye while he was faking his own dead,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: So that would have been nice to know. Emily responded,
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I was beginning to wonder why you weren't home.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's the first time she said something like that.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Emily stand on business. Emily is giving me like a
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: woman who just wanted children and didn't like really care
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: about the man for.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Real, like said, that would have been nice to know
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: she's been his shit. Emily, you are funny. I am iconic,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: I've decided.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: So after he apologized, she responded, nothing new. I should
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: be used to it by now. So many nights, I
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: have no idea where you are, and it's late.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Whoa lady you called it? Okay?
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: The scheme might have been of the queer variety, because
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: that's a wild thing to say.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Because why you out late? You got three kids and
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: you out late? What you're doing? Were you at the
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: booty club?
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Not only out late, but she goes shouldn't be a
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: surprise to me. So many nights, so many nights, many nights.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: So when you out in these streets, what Emily? Emily
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: listened to field mobs? She said, SI could being lonely
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: every night while my man is out with the home.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: My man, my man always out in these streets. Who's
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: doing the bended? That's what was gonna say next?
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: And he said, who's doing the boating?
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: So he responded that he'll work on their communication, adding
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: that he saw the northern lights and they were pink.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: He then texted, I love you good night.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I can't where okay, Hey, baby, I might have snuck
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: out to do some night yaking. God I died. That
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: would have been nice to know.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: What shouldn't surprise me anyway, I'm so used to you
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: being gone, and he said, I'm gonna work on communicating
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: with you. By the way, I snuck out to see
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: the northern lights. They are so pretty whimsical.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: This he's whimsical as hell.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I'm getting sick of this.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Already.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: This would be a scam. This is already, this scam
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: hasn't even happened yet.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Scam. I'm sorry, Jay, A man's a scam, not a plan,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: but a scam. You are not wrong, Emily says she
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: loved him too, and to be safe, she sick his shit.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: She's like, hey, one for three, one for three, bye, okay,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: see you later, And so he said I'll be heading
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: back to shore soon. At ten forty nine pm the
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: next morning, Emily woke up and he was still gone.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: At five am, she texted where are you and babe
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: and got no answer. Also, like for me, the texting
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: is very informative, like if any of this was serious?
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Why don't you call?
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Like the text are given like if you're gone, cool,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Like what.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Listen, I'm gonna add a new perspective. The text are
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: kind of feeling like she's like, okay, well if you out,
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: let me go ahead and text my boo, so then
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: come home. How long you gonna be How long are
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: you gonna be gone? What time you coming home?
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Hours specifically and in also minutes and seconds? No reason,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: no reason I'm asking, Just tell me how long. The
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: kids already probably know this man is they uncle? About
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: that man around like this is your uncle?
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Oh man, he can come around the house fixed stuff.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah we got We gotta go upstairs and play fight
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: real quick.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Knocked on her door, including your mama. Your mama needs
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: to fix it too, period. He gotta work on a
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: bunch of stuff around.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: You gotta look, there's a lot of parts that need lubricating.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: And don't bother us. When we upstairs, we play fighting
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: as adults.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Hey, turn y'all turn this video game up loud.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: So Green Lake County Sheriff's Department deputies found his parked
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: van and an overturned kayak and life jacket in the
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: lake area where the water is two hundred feet deep.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: They searched for Ryan's body for fifty days after that,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: and they found his fishing rod and tackle box, but
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Ryan himself seemed to have drowned. So he did pick
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: a place that was good for like searching, Like, yeah,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: but many feet deep, they ain't gonna find you.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah too, but this is Watertown, Green Lake. I'm sorry,
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: this is Green Lake. They ain't looked in the They
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: ain't looking in the lake. They ain't looking the lake, y'all.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: It feels like he got raptured more than he drowned.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Right, because he did leave stuff behind.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: He got caught, He got caught on to glory that move.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: That movie did something to me, like you remembering all
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: them books about the Rapture and the movies that followed,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Like I was like, if I see some clothes like
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: pay T shirt just laying out, I'm like, they got rapture.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: But that also means we neked up there until we
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: get we're gonna get some clothes in heaven, because I
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: assume that's when they passing out the linens. But you
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: don't get you, you don't get your heavenly garments in
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: the transit, so we naked when we're floating up.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I don't want to be naked when I'm floating up,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: and then we're getting white linen. Yeah, that's what you
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: think is happening.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: I think you get your heavenly garments when you get
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: there and they do the second verification.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know. This might be dark, but every day
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: that I don't want to put on cute outfits, I
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: remember like this could be the outpha I die in,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: so it needs to be cunty, like I'm like, I
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: gotta put on some good clothes because what if I die.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: I'm okay, I mean there is lazy.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: I think that your career has been going so well,
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: you could just go, hey, people are gonna, like possibly
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: take a photo of me, or someone's gonna see me.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: You could use that and go instead of death. I
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: think that's a motivator that is less stressful.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Less dramatic.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: For sure. I love I love the show. I love
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: the pod.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Oh you're healing me? I should, Yeah, I haven't been.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: The places I get recognized are always so inconvenient. It'd
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: be like the doctor's office. But I love your show,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: and I'm handing over all my hipo information.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: I'm like, let let's be real, because whenever I go,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: they give my prep every three months. For the past
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: two times I've been to one medical someone said I
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: know I'm not and even if I was.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Shut up.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Now you're going to get your horror met medication.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to get my whole pills and.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: They're like, we recognize you. I go, let me get
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: your whole pills real quick.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I love the clips. I go, well, you know what
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I don't love maybe not or maybe having gone. Let's go.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Let me go to the bat real quick. Why did
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: you give me a shot of my butt? What are
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: you talking about? Something? You love? The clips?
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: They got clips? I gotta tell you. So the Devil
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: went down to Georgia.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, the country. Oh, he escaped.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: He was looking for so to steal.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Remember that song, yeah, Charlie das Man.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: He went to Georgia, the country that's all. That's not
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: like Western Europe, that's like Eastern Europe, on the central eastern.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: And what was Ryan kayaked out into the middle of
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: the lake. He texted his wife, threw the phone overboard,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: and inflated a child sized raft he had with him.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Then he flipped the kayak over and paddled the child
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: raft to the other side of the lake. It took
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: a long time because of the child size paddles.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, it's not funny to leave your family. It is
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: funny to do it like this. I'm a student of
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: the classics. I love a good physical bit. Him having to.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Blow this so much time to think. He's on a
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: child rap with child rap paddles, and the whole time
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: he's like, Yep, this is the right choice. I'm leaving
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: with my family.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: I think the only way this is funnier is if
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: he has water wings on the whole time and he goes, oh,
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: and he flips it over and he's.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, you wanted to leave your family real bad. Honestly,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: you probably weren't contributing to the family. We've heard from
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: your wife, Emily. She was sick of yo shit.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: You weren't contributing and you bought a child rap and
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: didn't even let your kids play with it.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: To lee, they said, oh, Dad, you buy that for us.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I mean kinda. It ain't not the way you think,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: not in the way you think. I'm not buying it
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: for you. Oh yeah, I'm bound a for you.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're we're all gonna get a benefit out of it.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Don't worry about what that is right now, but we
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: all gonna benefit from this child rag. He stashed an
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: e bike in the woods weeks earlier and rode that
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: for seventy miles through the night to the Wisconsin capital
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: of Madison, where he caught a greyhound bus to the
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Canadian border. He was like, did you take a page
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: out of Harriet Tubman's book, because my god, it's really
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: escaping to freedomly.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, Ryan said, follow the drinking lord, I I
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: understand it.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Did you ain't even you stashed a bike across this
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: lake with the child bo You planned this? I noticed.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Nigga was giddy as hell.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: I bet you.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: His family was like he was so happy before he left,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: like because he planned this out to a.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: T Oh my god. They were like, he really does
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: love these night kayakings.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: He was like, I'll take the kids to softball today.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: He was excited because he knew he was gonna dip
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: out on his family.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: This definitely, this definitely was a day where he's like,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: y'all want to McDonald's right.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: He got McDonald's money on this day. Specifically only this day.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: They said, Dad, we're gonna be lay for school. Don't
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: worry about that.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Don't worry about that.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Don't worry about that. I'll come in. It's not y'all out.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Border agents were suspicious because he showed up with no
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: phone and no license. They asked if he was married
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: and if he was running away from something, but he
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: said no, so they led him through.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: No wait, they at at their job.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's giving insightful, like are men constantly
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: thinking about running away from their like obligations? Because why
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: is that y'all's first question? Like, hey, you don't got
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: your wallet? Other? Where's your wife? At? You running away
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: from her? Aren't you? I've thought about it, I've dreamed
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: about it. You doing it? Like why is that on
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: the question list? You're running away from your family? What it?
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: How can he have the forethought because he's probably watched
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: a lot of true crime, like you can't disappear with
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: your wallet on you and your past, poor thing?
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: People gonna think you left, Like it's gotta be like, oh,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: I went to the lake for fun and yeah, the
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: boat turned over and I died.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: So I'm just such a rule follower, I'd be like,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: you know, it's late.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: I'm mad. I'm mad at him for going to the
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: airport and not having his documents ready.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, he didn't go to the airport. He went.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: He drove to get Canadian border it, okay.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Which is easier than TSA.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, now see this.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: And he made it to the Toronto airport. So now
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: he at the airport like you were saying, and he
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: took a flight to Georgia, the country between Russia and Turkey,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: where he met a woman from Uzbekistan he'd found on
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: a dating app.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: So he oh my god, oh my god. Not gay,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: but worse.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Listen, if he wanted so, he would. This is this
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: is absolutely an example of that. Like if your man
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: ain't willing to fake his own death, leave his family,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: flip a boat over hide the woods to Canada, and
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: then get on a flight to Georgia. He don't really
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: like you like that?
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: Yet, ladies, you gotta find a man who can commit
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: to you, even if it means he's committing crimes and
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: he's still still committing okay, wow, if he committing crimes,
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: he's still committing Yeah, woman, my standards are.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Way too low. Like, I'm about to raise him up
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: even higher, because what you mean you ain't gonna fake
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: your own death? Like what you don't love me for
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: my face?
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all, y'all data who are scared to leave their
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: neighborhood to hang out?
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: They may who want to go fifty to fifty on
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: the bills? No, he going one hundred percent on the life, okay,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: on going death Like what, No, I'm done. I'm raising
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: the bar, the bars in hell, and I'm raising it
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: because what do you mean, if you love me, fake
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: your own death? Right?
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: This is wild? Because if he through the phone, he
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: didn't have a phone. So this woman, this Ubekkahstan woman
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: in Georgia is committed to memory. He got locked up here.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: He loves this ubekah Stanian woman. He in love with
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: be he don't. He don't give a fuck what bor
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: was talking about. He don't care about period.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: He needed over there, okay, he said, my, oh my,
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: oh my, oh Mybekastanian woman.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Like what she got going on online? That is this powerful.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: I need to talk right, write the book, write the book,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: because you got putuff going on.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: She puts them on him. She put that pickled herring on,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: she put that borshed on.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: What kind of gelaties you got over there?
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: While Ryan is.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Missing, once you go ooh's back your family wheel check
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: to see if you're escaped.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: So while Ryan was missing and presumed dead, right, his
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: body was suspiciously still not found. A TikTok that might
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: have had him in it went viral. So leave it
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: to TikTok.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Oh my, the Surveilan state helps us once again.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Can need advice on anything?
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: I go to Rebekah Stan or stay here?
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Say that one more time on the bike. You have
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: family there? Why do you want to go meet a
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: woman to women? And it Waskistan Pakistan? You don't like
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: American women?
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Now they're familiar?
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: What what know?
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: They're family? Not familiar. That's your wife. They're not familiar.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: You have their family, you have.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Offspring, bro? What do you mean? What do you not
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: trying to be a passpro? Like a passport bro? And
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: you already have a family.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Like I'm seeing this video and the scheme, the scheme
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: energy I saw in the wedding photo, it is present
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: in this bike still and you pointed out he just motherfucker?
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Do you love bikes.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: I'm why do you want to be on wheels so much?
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Where do you need to go so fast?
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: You got two feet? Huh? Why do you always need
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: modes of.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: People ride on motorcycles? Like where do why do you
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: need to go somewhere so fast? They cut through traffic?
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Because you're a scammer?
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: No, this is crazy, he's mad.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Allegedly, Allegedly, he asked, you know, he already had the
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: plan lined up, and he was like, I just need
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: one person to confirm. He couldn't tell. And you know what,
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: this makes sense too, because he couldn't tell none of
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: his friends, his family. If he told anybody that he
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: was planning this escape, they would have known. So he
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: does need to talk to strangers because who else he
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: gonna talk to about.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: And I'm gonna say this, you, oh eleccherous buzzard. You
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: hitting on this little girl too.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I don't like the energy you've giving her. M I'm
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: looking at this pought up.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Here, like do you want to go with me? Like
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: he's tired for anybody was giving it out Like.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: I'm real, Yeah, what the hell? Ryan, I'm I'm mad,
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: I'm is this this is silly and funny but you
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: old dirty.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Dog, dirty ass dog. And the Green Lake Sheriffs are
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Is said on his Facebook page they believe the person
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: in the video was not Ryan, just another similar looking
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: guy who was thinking about leaving his wife for an
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Eastern European woman he met online. Okay, y'all really doing
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: bros before hose because that's a lot of specifics to
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: be like, it's not him. No, it's just a similar
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: guy with the same story, in the same motivation, and
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: he looked exactly like him.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: But it's not him, and he's asking about that specific country. Yeah,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: why y'all run an interference on this? This is wild
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: is rights Wisconsin.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: So during the search, investigators scoured the lake using divers, drones, sonar,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: and cadaver k nines. They were in cadaver k nines.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: If you don't know, it's a dog that can smell
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: like a dead body. There was like nearly like daily
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: drone searches. A volunteer search organization called Bruce's Legacy metathodically
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: searched approximately like fifteen hundred acres and sifted through hours
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: and hours of sonar data and images. When they still
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: found nobody, they started to suspect foul play. Police trace
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: the real Ryan's movements by using data on a laptop
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: he left behind. They saw that he had been talking
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: to a woman named Katya he'd met on a dating
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: website since twenty twenty three.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Katya, I knew Rule Paul's drag race was responsible for this.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I knew it. I knew somehow Paramount CBS the merger
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: via MTV. Yeah, Katya, I'm upset.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: So by February of twenty twenty four, they had become
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: close friends him and Katya and began researching how to
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: fake his own death. That April, Oh my god, they
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: learned pretty quickly that he had taking out a life
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: insurance policy, applied for a replacement passport, and reversed his
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: vasectomy three months before his disappearance. So you buy three kids,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: reversed and your wife said, shut that dick off, shut
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: it off.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: You remember how we used to hit the wall in
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: them folks. Yeah, that's they deal with his vast deference.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they cut his vast difference off like whoa, And
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: then he went and got it uncut. He meaning he
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: was planning to have more offspring. Bro, you don't take
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: care of the kids.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: You got why get you left them kids?
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you took a kink off the garden hose, and
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: now you're gonna go have some some Uzbekistan.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Georgia Becky babies. You don't want to take care of
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: your American babies.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, while you you're running off with Uzbeky with the
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: good hair, that's what it is. It was Becky with
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: the good you're running off with who was Becky with
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: the good hair? And you think that this family isn't important. Man,
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: shout out to Emily, because girl, you stronger than me.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: Ooh child, Emily. I hope Emily was getting something on
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: the side too, Like I said, I hope some man
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: was coming over to work.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: I hope there was an uncle who was coming over
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: and working on everything.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: Including that every couple of weeks Emily had to go
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: see a man about a horse.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: That's what I hope period.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's what Emily deserves. Okay, Emily, you should have
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: been putting that drain on in the meatloads, was making okay, like,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: oh kids, it's not for you. This daddy pieces he
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: get the biggest piece of meat loads. Why is it blue?
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Don't worry about that, you know, like she needed to get.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Out of there.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Women are telling me they can grow stuff in the
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: garden for pauses as well, Like, you know, sometimes you
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: gotta get somebody up out of there.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: Like I'm trying to do something a little different. You
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: don't like, you don't want to trust new food.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: No, the blue, the bluer it is, the better. It
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: tastes like you need to eat that.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: You ain't culture.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: You never been nowhere. He's saying, I'm about to go somewhere.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: What was that, I'm about to go to Georgia. Oh, okay,
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: shout out to glad.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: It's night. This man took the midnight trying to Georgia.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: He did the country.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: He took a midnight bike to Georgia.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: Okay, which going, He's going back to Fine, going back
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: to Fine.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Patient time, gotta uncut my penis? Okay. Cool. So they
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: found Katya's email address and send emails to her with
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: the subject call us very important. It worked. In November,
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Ryan sent back a video of himself saying I'm in
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: my apartment. I am safe, secure, there's no problem. Over
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: a month of emailing back and forth, investigators convinced him
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: to return to Wisconsin, largely by pleading with him to
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: do right by his family. He flew back to the
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: US in December. So let's see. Wait a minute, Wait
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: a minute.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: The police, the police, the way they got him back
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: is it? You ain't shit pieces guy, bring you, bring your.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Dog and here chance back to the state a family.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: You know you're in the wrong, and put your vast
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: difference away. You already got a family, they said, they
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: pleaded it. Well, we know you are doing Shenanigan's three
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: faked his own death and fled to Eastern Europe. They
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: found he'd been chatting with a woman online. And this
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: morning we're getting a glimpse into his new life overseas
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: and new details of his escape. Details, okay, we got
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: details of his escape.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Good evening, it's frying for work this morning. New video
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: of the Wisconsin father of three who police say faked
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: his death and fled the country.
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: Today is November eleventh.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: It's practicos ten am.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: By you, guys. Why did you act like he a hostage?
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: You ran away from your family, You're not a hostage.
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: I hope this works.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: You hope this works. What you hoping works? That we
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: get more mad at you? You want George Stephanos to
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: agree with you. You want Robin Roberts at seven am
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: in the morning, be you like a good dude. What
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: the hell are you supposed to do?
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not a parent, but I am an older sister
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: by thirteen years from the youngest, and I know what
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: it's like to deal with children. And I'm sure this
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: is a fantasy of many parents who don't know what
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: they're getting into. Like I could just leave the country,
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: and I like, do you.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: My mama told me many times when I turned thirty,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: She said, Babe, bed, if Michael Jordan would have called,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: I would have dropped you and your siblings off at
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: the fire station. But he did it.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: It would have been a cute basket. I would Hella
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Blanks in it, Like you got to go.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Let's be serious.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: This man he had to be convinced by the Green
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: Lake and watertown Sheriff Department to just come back and
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: stop being such a piece of ship and like.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: What's that conversation? Hey, Brian? Hey, like, man, Look, we
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: all hate our families. Flies you come hang out with us.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: We oh Thursdays, we have a happy hour where we
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: hate our families, where we talk about how much we
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: hate them and our wives like, come on back like
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: you already you did it. You got a family now,
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, come hate them at home.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: The town small. But man, I'm gonna tell you. Hey, man,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: it's some good pussy here in Greenlake.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: You don't got to stand cheese.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Wait, you know that's not what we do.
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: What do we do?
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: We stay married to our wives and we have a
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: long affairs and the women show up at our funeral
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: and then they can have the fight while we are
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: in the ground.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: We're around and you can fuck us too. We have
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: sex with men like.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: They go. I've seen the wedding photo. I'll suck you did.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: That's mainly the main lest thing you can do.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: We just you were just hanging out. You can't, man,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: you can't. You can't leave your family far.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: You do what you're making us look bad? Now My
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: wife and you be going a lot at night too. No,
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: you're blowing all our spots up.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Ryan.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we used to all be able to go out
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: at night, and now they worried that we're not gonna
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: come back. Yeah, we cheating, but now they're worried about it.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: We're cheating, but we come back home. We come back
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: home with.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: A fundamental core of cheating is you come back.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Home and you come back home mad, you mad, You.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Pick a fight, and then you go to and you
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: don't talk to nobody for a few days. That's what
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: we do, blowing up the spot. Everybody looking at us crazy.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: We can't even have our Thursday night manly fucking session.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: But also the cheating, and we can't even do it
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: right now because they.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: It's crazy, that's crazy.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: Imagine you hate your wife so much, you go you
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: hate your wife so much, you get you said, let
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: me move next to Russia.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I said, this bit is tripping.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Why so much you moved to Uzbegger standing, bro, leave
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: this man like you can't stay with him, because.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, this man is a wild most men, all
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: it takes you just gotta let them build a shed.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: You gotta may have a man cave.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Let him get a corvette, let stand let him get
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: a motorcycle.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he hated you for real. God. And so before
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: they booked Ryan into jail, Green Lake investigators asked him
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: during a three hour interview why he did it. He
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: said he felt like a failure, saying later in the
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: interview that he has accumulated about seventy five thousand dollars
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: in credit card debt and one hundred and thirty thousand
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: in business debt. He said he didn't have a good
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: relationship with his wife, clearly, and we're not shocked about that,
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: and his children didn't want anything to do with him anymore,
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: which obviously you're bad vibes like yeah, I mean, I'm
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: gonna give him this one thing, and this is the
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: bars in Hill, the bars in Hell. Yeah, but a
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: lot of times when specifically white men are in this
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: financial position with their family, they kill the whole family,
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: the family annihilate. Yeah, he annihilated hisself and left the
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: family alone. I'm right, he didn't kill everybody, so bars
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: in Hell.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: But I can't give you your tens. I'm gonna give
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: you your point fives. You didn't murder these.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: People, and we're glad that you did it. You take
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: lives away because of your own failures, because we know
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: people of your ilk. That's like there go to playbook,
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: like I'm not doing well in lifetime to kill everybody
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: She said, like you said, the milk ilk, y'all be
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: killing folks.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: And look, everybody of everybody's be killing folks. But the
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: arbitrary killing, that's one that's been solely assigned to y'all.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Y'all just be killing anybody like it don't even matter.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: Like uh, but I mean, here's a wild part. The
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: convincing worked. He came back and then he said, man,
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: I don't know why y'all want me back. They don't
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: even like me.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: We clearly know they don't like it. Lass, your wife
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: was not even looking for you that hard. It don't
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: sound like she put up a single poster on like
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: a lamp pole or no.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: She said, well he's not under the bed. I don't know.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he disappeared. I guess like she wasn't posting
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: nothing up about you. There was no vigil. Nobody bought
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: a candle for you.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: As someone said, how's emly holding up? I saw at
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: the club she was turning up. She looks younger, she
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: is blowing. Oh my god. Yeah.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: Better.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: How the kids doing, they're doing better in school? Stress varsity.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they seemed really happy. I think I went to
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: a rally there. They were like, stop looking. It was
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: stopped looking.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: Stop looking for They said, we're good, stop looking looking weird.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: Good.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: We don't want him to be.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Don't save him. He don't want to be.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: So this is a quote that says, I I think
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: just the inability, like the inability to feel like you
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: could talk to your wife about some of this stuff.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Like That's what Ryan said, and he called the plan
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: his crazy emotional dream. Ryan said he hoped that he
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: could avoid detection long enough to be declared legally dead.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: At that point, he planned to apply for citizenship in Georgia,
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: but hadn't figured out how to do that if he
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: was declared dead. Yeah, the math on math on that,
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: because you can't be dead and a citizen, Like, what
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: are you trying to do?
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Ye?
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: So, throughout the interview with detectives, Ryan kept asking whether
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: a Katya was in trouble, you know, his Uzbekistanian buk bang.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: He said he would like to return to her because
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: the cost of living is so much cheaper in Georgia
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: than the US. Listen, okay, this is a recession indicator.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Family and nihilators ain't even an not ain't the family
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: no more. They're like that's too expensive.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: I can't he said, I can't buy all that rope.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: What I'm just gonna go to Uzbeka stand it's way
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: better cost of living.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Also you came back and you said, oh, by the way,
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: Kantya ain't in trouble right right, But he ain't.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Even ask him because he cares about Katia. He asked
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: because he want to go back to Katia prison because
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: that's my bootthang.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: So slap this man. You gotta slap him. The police
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: gonna get let you get one slap.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: You know how whenever you see the police handcuffed man
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: and he's like done wrong by the wife and the
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: police will let you get one slap.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Now you can try to, I mean, get you one
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: good arrest slap. Emily, you gotta slap fire out this
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: man for asking is Katya in trouble?
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he asked about his wife, Sir, This man that
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: you talk about while and this man is a wild
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: Kanya in trouble right.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: But I need to go back over there because the
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: cost of living is cheaper. Like listen, this is a
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: recession indicator. He was like, eggs are too expensive. I
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: have to fake my death and leave my family. This
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: is what has come to These are rational choices we
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: have to make right now in this economy. You can
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: keep being with your family in loving them, or you
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: can fake your own death and go to Uzbekistan. And honestly,
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: that's starting to look good. That's starting to look like
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: an option that we should consider.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm calling it right now, Let's think
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: we ida, we come up with a good pitch outline,
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: but we make it kind of eat prey love where
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: someone does this, but it's turns.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Out okay, it's kind of cute.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: He I mean, okay, we have trying to get that
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: lady pregnant again though, like this giving you get women
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: pregnant to trap them, because why you why are you
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: up here untangling your vast difference so you can have
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: some more kids.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: He wanted to have his Emily in Paris moment.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: M m. He was trying to trap standing and queen so.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Because wait a.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: Second, Yeah, you've tried to have it. Who's Becky and
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: ankle baby? Because you got you got the you got
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: the vasectomy reversed and the wife didn't know.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Your wife didn't know.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: And at the end of the interview, he asked the
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: detectives if he could use the Justice Centner's WiFi to
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: let Katya know he was okay. One of the deputies
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: told Ryan he emailed her for him. It's unclear if
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: the deputies actually did email her, but they're like, bro,
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: what do you mean when you use our WiFi to
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: tell your yo Uzbekki standing in lover that you're cheating
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: with that you're okay? What about your wife?
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: What a bunch of kids like you're crazy? Ryan? You're
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: in jail, by the way, Hey, can I can? I
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: can I call real quick?
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Can?
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: What's the WiFi password for what? I gotta see if
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: Kanti is okay?
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: Huh? What?
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta I gotta make sure that you know
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: my love is okay, my man, my.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: Me, and my me and my baby, my baby.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: Actually, you know what, write write a note for her
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: folded up to I'm gonna send it to her like, be.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: For real, sorry girl. And Ryan pleaded no contest to
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: a misdemeter charge of obstruction, which is obviously connected to
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: him faking his own death. Prosecutors asked the Green Lake
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: County Circuit judge Mark State or Mark Slat, to sentence
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Ryan to just forty five days in jail, but the
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: judge doubled it, sentencing him to eighty nine days. The
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: same number of days from when he was declared missing
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: until the Sheriff's department made contact with him overseas. The
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: judge said it should be a deterrent to other people.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: See the manisphere is really manisphering right now. They said,
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: we all want to leave our family. It's given jealousy.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: It's jealousy that he anythink I want.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: You don't think I want to leave my wife and
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: these ugly ass kids every day.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: No, I'm a man in my family. But I'm a man,
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: So I drink beers and be sad, but I don't
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: leave my family. Now, you gotta go to jail for
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: eighty nine days to remember you don't leave your family
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: that you made.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna lock you up for eighty nine days
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: because you was away for eighty nine dayss okay, so
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: I judge, Just so I'm clear, my family ain't gonna
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: be in jail, right.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: No, I'm good vacation, y'all.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Look what is funny?
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: The judge was like being a home and was like, yeah,
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: but you get I'm gonna get you eighty nine so
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: you can get away from your family for even longer,
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: just a little bit longer.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: Man. The judge come up to him, whisper man. I
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: know she tripp it man. Yeah, yeah, you know, we hate,
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: we hate.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: I mean a real judge would have said, no, you
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: sit your dumb ass at home with them kids for
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: the forever, right.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Because the real prison sentence, honestly seems to be being
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: with his family.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, lock him up in the cage at home.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: That's where he really serve a time. Y'all should have
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: gave him aus arrest because you have to be with
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: his family. That's the punishment. Clearly he hated over there.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: He also had to pay thirty thousand dollars to Green
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: Lake County to reimburse them for the costs of searching
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: for him.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Lazy lacy, we know this. Nigga ain't got it.
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: Seventy five thousand worth a credit card, that one hundred
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: thousand worth of this on top of that, we need
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: another thirty bands.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I told you, honestly, not enough dent to leave
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: your family in the country for it, Like you would
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: have made that work Chapter eleven bankruptcy or something like,
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: what do you what do you mean you left for
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: that much? That's not enough? Un thirty five thousand dollars.
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: Serious, first day, first day out Ryan gonna sound like
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: the didn't nobody give me nothing when I was in jail,
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: y'all didn't check out me.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: Emily, Poor Emily, Emily Marie. She she did file for
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: divorce in December, two days after Ryan returned to the US,
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: So when she knew he was alive and well, she
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: was like, well, I'm gonna get this divorce. So, baby,
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: you was already divorced. This man was never your husband.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: I can guarge you you.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Are a widow for a hot minute, for eight and
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: that days, she was a widow.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: And that's why she was like, oh, I need this
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: divorce because like it was gonna be cool if you
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: just died. Yeah. Also, like if he had life assurance,
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: I would have been pissed off that he ain't dead,
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: Like we was gonna be set up alive. You're coming
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: back and alive at all, you know.
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: And I'm gonna say this now, I'm looking at the
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: picture your goofy ass was lucky with Emily. Emily looks
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: like she's delightful, your goofy ass taking these photos looking
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: goofy on your wedding day and pulling some goofy ass
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: ship like.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: That, and Ki looks happy, you know, in a picture
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: when everybody's leaning in and touching each other. They had
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: a nice childhood. Emily then made a nice childhood for
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: these babies. Weird ass. My kids don't like me. They
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: don't like you because you're a bad vibe.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: You are weird though.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: It's sure, God what I'm mad? Ryan, you pissed me
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: off the day. Emily didn't deserve this, Ryan.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: This ain't even a good scam. This ain't even a
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: good scam. First of all, you don't let the police
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: convince you to come back home, so you gave up
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: the scam. You ain't even get the Uzbecky he was
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: trying to be with. Like, and now you're in jail
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: for eighty nine days, like, and then you want to
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: go back to your family, Like what you accomplish?
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: You look at dumb. You're looking dumb over some who's
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: big booty?
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: Who's Becky booty? And you didn't even.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: Bet that booty. You didn't even get it for long?
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, And now your goofy ass gotta come
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: back home. I'm sorry that he got caught because they said, Rome,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: we know it's you. No, you don't ry, No, we.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: No Ryan, We know it's you.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: No, you got me.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: And for all the work that he did. Like, Bro,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: you fake your own drowning. You got a kid's lifeboat
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: with tiny little oars that took you hours to roll
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: over to a bicycle that then you rolled the bicycle
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: and then and then you left the country. You did
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: all of this there seventy miles. Bro, you get all
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: of this just to return to the country. Be a loser.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: I'm disappointed in you because how about the scheme?
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: Is this?
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: How the hell can you like bike for seventy miles
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: but you can't. I don't know, you can't just be like, hey,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: let's let's take a break for a little bit.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: In America.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: What this iss hell like?
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: Masculinity is a prison. Masculinity is a prison.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: Because you telling me you'd rather you'd rather effect you
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: on death to have like an actual heart to heart
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: with your wife.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: That's literally it. And it's a prison that men have
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: made for themselves. Y'all got yourself in the masculinity prison.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: This this Internet. Later, they got your pewter whacker a
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: little hard and now you're ready to throw it all away?
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: What God?
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Also, he went and had surgery reversed for this lady.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: You you went and let them play with your penis
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: again because of this lady, because you wanted to trap
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: her with a baby reverse visectomy.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: Really, you got the viseectomy reversed. You'd rather do that
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: then me, like, hey, let's have a talk. I'm in
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: like some really hard trouble.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, what on it? I don't know what to literally.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: You could have been like, hey, the businesses are failing.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: We're gonna have to tighten up on groceries and stuff
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: this month, but I'm gonna work it out. You couldn't
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: have that conversation so much so that you got in
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: a boat and then got in a raft and then
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: got on an e bike for seventy miles, then crossed
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: the border, then flew to Sbekistan.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: It's really faking your own death when you could just
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: picked up a couple extra shifts.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: Hey, you could have been you could have been.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: That's too embarrassing. That's too embarrassing. The natural choice is
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: to fake my own death.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: You can't be a you can't be an uber drive
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: for a little bit.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: No, it's time to fake my death. Anytime I got
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: a problem, faking the death is the soil.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: This is why I am blown away, and also just
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: how scared he is too, because guess what it took
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: one person to be like Ryan, get your ass over here.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: Right, you won't fly back because they called you. That's
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Right, you could have just hung up
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: the phone. That's a quote Tyler the Creator. I know
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: he's weird sometimes, but like, if online is bullying, you
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: close your eyes like you don't have to take it in, Like,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: why you're gonna hug up the.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: Phone, lazy? Guess what? We don't even get to do
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: this story if Ryan just says no, that's all you had.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: To do, like Emily, I'm gonna be right back over there, hold.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: On and held up? Oh wait se where? Oh yeah,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: hold on, let me get you all my new info.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: But honestly, that was men using the toxicity for good.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: They were like, nah, we all suffer together. Get your
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: bitch ass back over here, and hate your family in
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: person like we do. Like why are you trying to leave?
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: Hate your family in person? Yeah yeah you think I look, hey,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: come in here. You think I like these You think
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: I like these last kids?
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: I got No, I hate them, but I have honor
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: in my heart, so I hate them in person. That's
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: what you're supposed to do. Get your pitch ass back
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: over here to the States.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, Ryan, I've never seen someone who wanted
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: to become an international criminal so little they said, we
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: know you over there.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I'm a gonna babe, all right, But we
• 1:04:26
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• 1:04:29
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• 1:04:32
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• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: You can find you on all social media at Jay Jorden,
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• 1:04:45
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• 1:04:48
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• 1:05:00
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