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Grammy-Nominated Rock & Soul Guitarist Jon Butcher [Episode 302] · Booked On Rock with Eric Senich

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Speaker 1: On this episode of Booked on Rock, Grammy nominated rock
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Speaker 1: and soul guitarist John Butcher. We talk about his emergence
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Speaker 1: from the Boston music scene in the eighties, being the
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Speaker 1: only black guitar player on MTV at one time, his
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Speaker 1: favorite rock and roll books, and will he write a
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Speaker 1: book of his own one day? All that coming up next.
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Speaker 2: I know, dialogue. How's a fountain the conversation right, that's
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Speaker 2: a geyser?
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Speaker 1: Interesting?
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Speaker 2: Interesting as provocative. Daddy Man back Man, rock and Roll.
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Speaker 1: Everybody, Welcome back to book don Rock. Great to have
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Speaker 1: you back on, Eric Senach. We are back with another
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Speaker 1: chapter in the Dialogue series. It's been a while since
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Speaker 1: we had one of these episodes. Chill and chat with authors,
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Speaker 1: fellow podcasters, musicians and more. And our guest is Grammy
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Speaker 1: nominated rock and soul guitarist John Butcher. He's one of
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Speaker 1: a select handful of influential recording artists who emerged from
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Speaker 1: the legendary Boston music scene back in the eighties. John,
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Speaker 1: who also was recently inducted into the New England Music
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Speaker 1: Hall of Famous, enjoyed a five decade long career marked
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Speaker 1: by major worldwide tours, MTV videos eclectic radio releases, collaborations
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Speaker 1: with other major artists, and incendiary live performances that continue
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Speaker 1: to this day. He's got a brand new album out now.
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Speaker 1: It's titled Nothing But Soul. It's classic R and B
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Speaker 1: inflective roots rock. It is on fire. I was just
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Speaker 1: listening to it as we started recording. We'll talk about
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Speaker 1: that a little bit. John's here to talk about his
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Speaker 1: music and the new album, and of course his love
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Speaker 1: of rock and roll books. So welcome to the podcast.
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Speaker 2: John, Yeah man, thanks for having me. I've been looking
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Speaker 2: forward to this all. Wait, Derek, so there you go.
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Speaker 1: This is awesome. Well, according to your online bio, you
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Speaker 1: are from Philadelphia. Tell us about your origins and what
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Speaker 1: led you down the path of music.
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Speaker 2: I started playing guitar early, man, I started at five
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Speaker 2: years old. My family has pictures of me in a
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Speaker 2: cowboy suit and a guitar. I couldn't decide which it
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Speaker 2: was gonna be cowboy or our rock guitar player. Anyway,
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Speaker 2: the last one went out, and I guess what started
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Speaker 2: me playing was there used to be these short movies.
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Speaker 2: They're called shorts Roy Rogers and other singing cowboys, and
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Speaker 2: that's what interested me. In the guitar. Of course, it
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Speaker 2: wasn't long after that that I discovered Jimmy Hendricks and
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Speaker 2: then the die was cast.
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Speaker 1: So you moved to the Boston area.
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Speaker 2: When to go to school? I went to in the
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Speaker 2: Boston like a lot of guys did, to go to college.
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Speaker 2: You know. My parents wanted me to have something to
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Speaker 2: fall back on in case the music didn't work out,
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Speaker 2: So I went to Boston to go to a communications
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Speaker 2: school for broadcast journalism, Graham Junior College. And ironically, at
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Speaker 2: the same time as I was there, Johnny A was there,
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Speaker 2: So our paths were sort of converging from the very beginning,
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Speaker 2: and that led to me staying in Boston. That college
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Speaker 2: experience opened me up to the city and it was
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Speaker 2: a treasure trove for a young guy like me.
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Speaker 1: You were part of that scene in the eighties, the
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Speaker 1: Boston music scene. What was that like?
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Speaker 2: I can't even really put words to it. The only
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Speaker 2: comparison I'd make is is the scene in London in
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Speaker 2: the sixties. That music scene was electric because there was
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Speaker 2: all of this fresh energy coming from every direction. And
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Speaker 2: that's what Boston was like, you know, being in the
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Speaker 2: same town with the Jay Giles band and Aerosmith and on.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know where to stop. It fostered
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Speaker 2: great players and exciting performances. I give all the credit
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Speaker 2: to Boston and WBCN.
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Speaker 1: We had a guest on recently, Gary Shay from the
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Speaker 1: band New England. I know Gart Okay. It's a small world, yeah,
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Speaker 1: And he's from my hometown here in Southington. So we're
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Speaker 1: talking about he was in Boston in the seventies and
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Speaker 1: talking about the scene at the time as well. What
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Speaker 1: about the musicians and the bands who influenced you. You talk
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Speaker 1: about Hendrix, but I'm also reading you're big fan of
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Speaker 1: Otis Rush and Freddie King and Wilson Pickett, sly Stone.
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Speaker 1: You could hear it in the music.
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Speaker 2: All of those people. All of those guys had an
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Speaker 2: equal stake in making me want to be a player
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Speaker 2: for real. All of those guys. The first time I
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Speaker 2: heard Otis Rush about blew my mind because it was exciting,
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Speaker 2: it wasn't laid back, it was on top of the notes,
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Speaker 2: and it had a profound effect on me, as Jimmy
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Speaker 2: Hendrix did. It's just that, you know, he wasn't the
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Speaker 2: only one you'd mentioned. Sly Stone there would be no
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Speaker 2: prints period without sly Stone, there just would not have
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Speaker 2: been one. His influence is felt in so many ways,
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Speaker 2: and I wanted to pay homage to that in my
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Speaker 2: new album.
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Speaker 1: You toured with the Jaygaus band, right.
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Speaker 2: That was my big break? Yeah, that was what put
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Speaker 2: me on the map. Dude. We got a call. Me
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Speaker 2: and my bass player Chris Martin lived in this really
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Speaker 2: awful apartment in Cambridge, Massachusetts, freezing and hungry. The phone
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Speaker 2: rang and it was somebody from the Giles band asking
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Speaker 2: us if we wanted to open up for Giles at
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Speaker 2: the Boston Garden. Well, I checked my calendar for about
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Speaker 2: two seconds, there was nothing in it. I said, of
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Speaker 2: course we do. We did those three shows opening up
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Speaker 2: for Giles at the Boston Garden and never looked back.
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Speaker 1: And Jay Giles underrated guitarist, I think, although he's well respected,
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Speaker 1: but yeah.
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Speaker 2: No, no, he was underrated because what his allegiance to
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Speaker 2: real blues and blues chronology. That guy's was a walking encyclopedia.
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Speaker 2: So I give him a lot of credit for bringing
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Speaker 2: forth the early influences that came out in the Jay
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Speaker 2: Giles band.
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Speaker 1: When did the John Butcher Access Band form.
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Speaker 2: I was in this popular band in the late seventies
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Speaker 2: in Boston. We were tearing it up called Johannah Wild,
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Speaker 2: and that broke up, as bands do, and so I
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Speaker 2: was wondering, well, what am I going to do next?
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Speaker 2: And me and the drummer decided, well, let's try you know,
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Speaker 2: a quartet four guys. No, No, let's try three guys.
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Speaker 2: And it was just that sort of accidental and one
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Speaker 2: thing led to another, and before you know it, we
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Speaker 2: were selling out all the venues in New England everywhere
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Speaker 2: all the time.
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Speaker 1: You signed with Capitol Records.
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Speaker 2: We signed with Polydor Records.
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Speaker 1: First first okay, yeah, the first two.
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Speaker 2: Records were on Polydor, and then we switched to Capital
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Speaker 2: and I did a few records for Capital and that
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Speaker 2: was a great experience because I got I got to
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Speaker 2: travel the world. I got to go to Capital Studios
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Speaker 2: in Hollywood, California, where Nat King Cole and Frank Sinatra recorded,
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Speaker 2: and there I am in Studio A for the first time,
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Speaker 2: this young guy gone, Holy crap, I have died and
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Speaker 2: gone to heaven.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's part of the question. I was going to
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Speaker 1: ask about how much of a whirlwind that was for you,
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Speaker 1: because you're touring with Rush def Leppard's Scorpions in Excess
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Speaker 1: and talked about Jake else band. You had singles. Successful
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Speaker 1: singles like Life Takes a Life, The Ritual, which was
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Speaker 1: nominated for a Best Rock Instrumental Grammy, The Sounds of
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Speaker 1: Your Voice and Stop Life Takes a Life received their
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Speaker 1: time on MTV in eighty three, which I want to
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Speaker 1: ask you more about later. But yeah, what was that like?
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Speaker 1: I mean that whole period because I always hear artists
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Speaker 1: when they talk about when you're young, and it's just
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Speaker 1: all happening so fast. It's just like a.
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Speaker 2: Whirlweb, you know what. I don't know what it's like
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Speaker 2: now to try and make it and come up through
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Speaker 2: the ranks and get noticed and play. I can't imagine
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Speaker 2: how difficult it is, even with the Internet, the World
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Speaker 2: Wide Web. And the reason why is because when we
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Speaker 2: were coming up, there was no web, so people had
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Speaker 2: to go out to to see bands. They had to
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Speaker 2: get off the sofa and go see us live if
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Speaker 2: they wanted to see us at all. Well, for a
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Speaker 2: guy like me, I was built for that, you know.
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Speaker 2: It was so exciting for me and so eye opening,
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Speaker 2: and I met so many people I don't know what
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Speaker 2: to say about my experience other than it was just unique.
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Speaker 1: But you do have to be built for life. On
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Speaker 1: the road.
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Speaker 2: It was hard, you know what. I'll be honest with you.
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Speaker 2: Here's the hard part. The hard part isn't the plane.
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Speaker 2: The hard part isn't the what forty five minutes or
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Speaker 2: an hour you spend on stage. That's the fun part.
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Speaker 2: The hard part is sleeping on the bus, or not
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Speaker 2: showering for a couple of days, or not being able
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Speaker 2: to check into the hotel for forty eight hours, or
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Speaker 2: not being able to get clean socks, or catching a
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Speaker 2: cold and getting stuck on the bus. All that stuff
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Speaker 2: tears you down physically. I think that's why a lot
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Speaker 2: of guys who toured like that Aerosmith, they're a great
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Speaker 2: example of the road tearing them up. That's what happened.
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Speaker 2: They just got beat up. And of course then drugs
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Speaker 2: come along because you feel like crap, right, you don't
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Speaker 2: want to feel that way, and you're gonna go on
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Speaker 2: stage in forty minutes, so that's how those things happen.
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Speaker 2: My experience fortunately bypassed the drug part and just focus
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Speaker 2: on the music and we tried to stay as healthy
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Speaker 2: as we could.
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Speaker 1: And the more successful you are, the more they're going
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Speaker 1: to want you on the road.
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Speaker 2: Yes, but the key you know what it's like pro sports.
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Speaker 2: You gotta stay healthy. You have to stay healthy. If
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Speaker 2: you're not healthy, sooner or later, stuff catches up to
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Speaker 2: you and that's when bad things happen.
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Speaker 1: Of the bands that you supported, which fan base responded
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Speaker 1: the best and was there a fan base that was
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Speaker 1: the hardest to win over when you played?
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Speaker 2: Man, what a great question. I'll start with the last part. First,
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Speaker 2: we opened up for Rush. Now, Rush is you know,
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Speaker 2: they're legendary. Everyone knows that they're a legendary band. And
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Speaker 2: so the good news is, you know you're going to
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Speaker 2: have a full house. But the bad news is Rush
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Speaker 2: fans don't want to know from the opening act. No
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Speaker 2: they don't. They weren't Rush. And so the first night
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Speaker 2: we opened up for them, you know, ladies, gentlemen, you know,
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Speaker 2: the John Butcher axes and the lights go up and
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Speaker 2: it wasn't Rush. And for just a few seconds you
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Speaker 2: could see the stunned face, you know, like, you know,
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Speaker 2: who's that guy? He's huh you know, So I'm thinking, oh, man,
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Speaker 2: they're gonna kill us. Right, They're gonna throw shit and
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Speaker 2: it's gonna be bad. So what I did was I went, Okay,
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Speaker 2: we're guys, we're gonna go for broke, and I'm playing
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Speaker 2: in with one hand and I'm throwing it around here,
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Speaker 2: round the back. And long story short after that, twenty
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Speaker 2: four minutes, twenty four minutes on stage, we had them,
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Speaker 2: but I killed myself doing it. Because Rush fans want Rush,
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Speaker 2: they don't want the opening act. So that was the hardest.
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Speaker 2: Now the most fun easily. Def Leppard really want yo
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Speaker 2: check it out. We went on tour with them during
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Speaker 2: Pyromania and that was one their big records, and I
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Speaker 2: wasn't that familiar when we started the tour. I wasn't
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Speaker 2: a big fan. But those guys, now you have to
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Speaker 2: remember I'm a young man with what I'm about to
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Speaker 2: say next. Those guys had so many girls at their
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Speaker 2: shows that when the house lights went down, it was
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Speaker 2: like beatlemanial. And they loved having an opening app you know,
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Speaker 2: So I mean they throw the guitar around her one hand,
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Speaker 2: the other hand, no hands, and they loved us. And
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Speaker 2: not only that, the band loved us, so they let
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Speaker 2: us play longer, then let us play longer. Then they
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Speaker 2: gave us all the lighting on the stage because famously,
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Speaker 2: headlining bands keep hold back some of the lighting and
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Speaker 2: some of them out. Not these guys. Long story short,
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Speaker 2: After forty dates, we're sleeping in each other's hotel rooms
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Speaker 2: and crashing out and having fun and going out to dinner.
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Speaker 2: And it was one of the most fun tours I
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Speaker 2: ever did.
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Speaker 1: Wow, how cool is that? I'm a huge stuff Leppard fans.
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Speaker 1: That's just great to hear.
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Speaker 2: Oh it was. And two this day when I see
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Speaker 2: Phil it's like family.
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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah. And you see in interviews how down to
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Speaker 1: earth and just a good guy, good dude.
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Speaker 2: They really are like that.
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Speaker 1: And they're fans of music too. That's Joe Elliott will
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Speaker 1: talk about how much he loves all these bands that
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Speaker 1: inspired him. He just turns into He goes from rock
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Speaker 1: star to fan himself. You know, he just loves talking
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Speaker 1: about it.
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Speaker 2: So the music still lives in them. And that's the
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Speaker 2: important part. How to have how to have a long career.
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Speaker 2: Here's how you got to like what you're doing. You got,
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Speaker 2: in fact, you got to love what you're doing because
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Speaker 2: that's what you're committing to. You're not committing to the money,
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Speaker 2: because that can change. You're not committing to any accouterments
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Speaker 2: you know, that are associated with with rock lifestyle, because
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Speaker 2: those certainly change. The only commitment is to the music.
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Speaker 2: And if you can do that, I'm good for another
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Speaker 2: twenty years.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I've always now, having followed music for so long,
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Speaker 1: there are certain artists who I've seen play in front
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Speaker 1: of ten thousand, but play in front of a thousand,
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Speaker 1: and they're putting as much into it on the smaller
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Speaker 1: crowds than they were in the biker It didn't matter.
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Speaker 1: They just loved it. Yeah, total pros.
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Speaker 2: I love it. There's something to tell you who.
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Speaker 1: David Lee Roth was one when Del did nineties, when
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Speaker 1: he was playing smaller clubs, he would still put it
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Speaker 1: all out there, man. I mean he was just he
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Speaker 1: wasn't just you know, phoned it in saying payma.
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Speaker 2: That was my favorite. I don't want to get sidetracked,
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Speaker 2: but that was my favorite iteration of van Halen. It
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Speaker 2: was my favorite. I think it was a lot of
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Speaker 2: people's favorite. Nothing against Sammy, but that era of Van
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Speaker 2: Halen was fresh and ferocious, and you could tell they
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Speaker 2: all had unity. They were all brothers in that time.
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Speaker 2: And I really like.
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Speaker 1: Now let's talk about your solo workers. After Access, you
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Speaker 1: then have some solo albums that are successful as well,
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Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty Seven's Wishes, nineteen eighty nine Pictures from
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Speaker 1: the Front, and then you formed Barefoot Servants in ninety four.
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Speaker 1: Where did that name come from? By the way, I
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Speaker 1: love that name.
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Speaker 2: There's a Jimmy Hendrick song called All Along the Watch
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Speaker 2: Oh of course, yeah, and Barefoot Servants too. Anyway, we
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Speaker 2: liked the name. It was me, Ben Schultz, Ray Brinker,
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Speaker 2: and the man Leland Sklarr. Oh if I died tonight,
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Speaker 2: Having worked and lived and bled with Lee Sklaar is
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Speaker 2: one of my major accomplishments. One of the best players
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Speaker 2: walking the earth period fall stop, and one of the
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Speaker 2: worsest guys I've ever met.
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Speaker 1: How did you meet him? How did you team up
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Speaker 1: with him? How that all happen?
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Speaker 2: I'm not exactly sure. I think my songwriting partner in
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Speaker 2: the band, Ben Schultz, somehow had met Lee. I don't
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Speaker 2: know how exactly, but he said Ben and I were
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Speaker 2: doing demos of the first record and they sounded pretty good.
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Speaker 2: So somehow we got a demo to Lee. You know,
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Speaker 2: you never know, we didn't expect anything. I mean, the
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Speaker 2: guy was at that time touring with Phil Collins, right, So.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's what he's most famously for you to see
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Speaker 1: him in those videos, he's the guy with a long beard.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. So he gets back to us and says, when
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Speaker 2: can I come by the studio.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So one day League List Clark comes down to our
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Speaker 2: studio in Los Angeles and we started jamming, and boom
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Speaker 2: he asked, He asked if he could join.
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Speaker 1: That's so awesome. Yeah, I mean von Phil Collins, Toto,
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Speaker 1: Jackson Brown, James Talne, and the guy.
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Speaker 2: I don't know where that list starts and ends. You know,
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Speaker 2: there's so many artists that he's played with, and everybody
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Speaker 2: feels the same about this guy. Everybody loves him. Everybody
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Speaker 2: everybody admires his work, ethic and his personality. It's so
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Speaker 2: much nicer to be in a band with guys you
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Speaker 2: like and admire. I there's no substitute for it, really.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Did you always get along well with your bandmates
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Speaker 1: that you have any difficulties? Because I get life on
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Speaker 1: the road. Everybody's all up in each other's face.
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Speaker 2: Me and Chris Martin, the original bass player, for Axis.
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Speaker 2: We're best friends to this day. And no, I've always
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Speaker 2: gotten along pretty well with the guys I was in
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Speaker 2: bands with. I think that was important to me, and
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Speaker 2: so maybe that filtered through and it was important to
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Speaker 2: them too.
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Speaker 1: Tell me about this production company, the state of the
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Speaker 1: art recording studio. You call it Electric Factory. This you
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Speaker 1: launched in the nineties, I believe.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, back in the days when my studio was completely analog,
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Speaker 2: you know, big tape machines, two inch street machines.
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Speaker 1: I wish every album was still recorded on analog. You
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Speaker 1: could tell the difference.
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. We have a I now do
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Speaker 2: split my recording here in my house, in my basement.
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Speaker 2: I have a home studio, and there's another studio at Gloucester, Massachusetts,
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Speaker 2: where I live, and I go there to work with
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Speaker 2: an engineer that I'm friends with. Bottom line is I
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Speaker 2: get to do all this music promotion essentially home and
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Speaker 2: produce myself, which is what I wanted to do from
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Speaker 2: the very beginning. That was my frustration with the first
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Speaker 2: Access record. I don't think it turned out like we
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Speaker 2: knew it was supposed to be and how we sounded live.
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Speaker 2: So now I have the luxury of recording, you know,
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Speaker 2: on my terms, in my style, at my behest, and
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Speaker 2: I really enjoy that very much.
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Speaker 1: There's a studio in San Fernando Hills, California. Is that no?
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Speaker 2: No, no, I now live. Let me back up. I
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Speaker 2: had the Electric Factory, began the studio in California in Silmar, California.
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Speaker 2: I moved from the West coast back to the East
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Speaker 2: coast in twenty ten and so I kind of resurrected
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Speaker 2: my studio again. Here.
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Speaker 1: Is it still under the name Electric Factory.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's the name of my business.
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Speaker 1: Dude. You do not only work with recording artists, but
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Speaker 1: a lot of television, film, computer gaming projects are recorded there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I was lucky to have made some connections in
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Speaker 2: the nineties with guys that do media music, and I
18:12
Speaker 2: had a really great run for a few years doing
18:16
Speaker 2: Star Trek almost Ugly Betty. There was a TV series
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Speaker 2: called Ugly Betty that we did a bunch of shows.
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Speaker 2: I can't even think of it.
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Speaker 1: Well, I got some of them here. I just lifted
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Speaker 1: them from Wikipedia. So if they're wrong, you tell me.
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Speaker 1: But let's see HBO series dead Wood, A and E's
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Speaker 1: The Life and Times of Wild Bill Cody, the hughgles
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Speaker 1: from UPN, The Unit, CBS, Ugly, Betty ABC, Star Trek,
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Speaker 1: the Next Generation UPN My name is Earl NBC and
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Speaker 1: Hendrix the movie Wood Harris.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was. That was. I don't know whether
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Speaker 2: you saw that movie or not, the one with Wood
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Speaker 2: Harris played Jimmy.
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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, got it.
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Speaker 2: The movie wasn't that good us They were blocked from
19:04
Speaker 2: using Jimmy's songs. Let that sync in. Yeah, the movies
19:10
Speaker 2: about Jimmy Hendrix, but there's not one originally penn Jimmy
19:15
Speaker 2: Hendricks song in it. They couldn't get permission. So it
19:19
Speaker 2: was wild Thing and she's a couple of her covers
19:22
Speaker 2: and I just wasn't that good. But I had my
19:25
Speaker 2: chance to play guitar as Jimmy Hendrix in the movie, so.
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Speaker 1: That was cool. Booked on rock Podcasts. We'll be back
19:31
Speaker 1: after this.
19:32
Speaker 2: Don't go away, gentlemen, we may need all of you.
19:42
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the new album. Nothing but Soul came
19:44
Speaker 1: on July first, So what can fans expect to hear
19:47
Speaker 1: on this album?
19:48
Speaker 2: Nothing but Soul is an accumulation, an aggregation of all
19:53
Speaker 2: the music I've done all my career, from Life Takes
19:56
Speaker 2: a Life to now. It also reflects all of the
20:00
Speaker 2: influences that went into making me who I was. And
20:04
Speaker 2: I thought to myself, I don't know how many records
20:07
Speaker 2: I have ahead of me at this point, but if
20:10
Speaker 2: I were to pass away, I'd feel good about this
20:13
Speaker 2: being my last record. That was my goal. I wanted
20:16
Speaker 2: to make a record that really I felt secure and intentful.
20:22
Speaker 2: I knew I had reached I said what I wanted
20:24
Speaker 2: to say, I played what I wanted to play, and
20:27
Speaker 2: I thought this was the best extrapolation of what I did.
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Speaker 1: Twelve tracks altogether. My favorites my Blue Sky Jam, the
20:36
Speaker 1: title track. There's some cool stuff too. There's some sound elements,
20:40
Speaker 1: like what's the one that has the It opens with
20:43
Speaker 1: the sound of the police cars.
20:45
Speaker 2: And oh yeah, arrested, no arrested.
20:48
Speaker 1: No charges. Another great one.
20:50
Speaker 2: There's a lot of social commentary, Just like Life Takes
20:54
Speaker 2: a Life was, there's a lot of social commentary in
20:57
Speaker 2: my music. What I don't like to do is soap by,
21:00
Speaker 2: you know, and be obviously political. I don't like that.
21:04
Speaker 2: It's not cool with fans, and it just it narrows
21:08
Speaker 2: the amount of people who can hear you. But I
21:11
Speaker 2: have a point of view, and so that point, those
21:14
Speaker 2: points of view come through those songs. I think Nothing
21:18
Speaker 2: but Soul says more about me over my lifetime than
21:21
Speaker 2: any of my other records have.
21:23
Speaker 1: And people can get it. It's on Spotify, people can
21:26
Speaker 1: get it all the usual places, all.
21:27
Speaker 2: Of the places that you download music. It's there right now.
21:31
Speaker 2: And if you go to my website, John Butcher dot com,
21:35
Speaker 2: we have hard copies for those who still have CD players.
21:40
Speaker 2: I'll have vinyl in another month because that's my thing now.
21:43
Speaker 2: I collect vinyl, and so we're gonna put this out
21:46
Speaker 2: on vinyl. But you can find Nothing but Soul everywhere
21:49
Speaker 2: that you download music right now.
21:51
Speaker 1: You're on fire on guitar, you're on vocals, but talk
21:54
Speaker 1: about the rest of the band. Who else are we
21:56
Speaker 1: hearing on these tracks?
21:58
Speaker 2: A lot of this record is me. I played bass.
22:02
Speaker 1: Wow.
22:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, I played a lot of the keyboards, although I
22:06
Speaker 2: did have some help. A wonderful singer songwriter by the
22:10
Speaker 2: name of Chris Pierce helped me with vocals, so you
22:13
Speaker 2: hear his voice on it. Debbie Holliday, a terrific singer
22:17
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. You hear her voice on it Renee
22:20
Speaker 2: dupre you hear her voice. Sandy Mack is playing some
22:24
Speaker 2: B three for me, but a lot of the stuff,
22:26
Speaker 2: a lot of the piano, bass, guitar, and some drums too.
22:29
Speaker 2: I did myself.
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Speaker 1: And you're gonna go on on tour to support the album.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah. We're setting updates now and I figure we'll
22:36
Speaker 2: go into rehearsal sometime in late summer early fall. And
22:41
Speaker 2: I can't wait to actually get back to the Southwest.
22:44
Speaker 2: I haven't been to Oklahoma and Texas and New Mexico
22:47
Speaker 2: in a long time, so I'm looking forward to seeing
22:50
Speaker 2: the United States again and seeing our fans who have
22:52
Speaker 2: stayed with me for so many years.
22:54
Speaker 1: And who's going to be on the road with you?
22:55
Speaker 1: Who's the band?
22:56
Speaker 2: I am putting a new band together right now. It's
22:58
Speaker 2: under wraps because it's going to be a big I'm
23:01
Speaker 2: going to make a bit. It's a big splash. Okay,
23:03
Speaker 2: I can't talk about that yet, but hopefully we'll get
23:06
Speaker 2: a chance to talk about it again.
23:07
Speaker 1: But people just follow you on your website. Social media
23:11
Speaker 1: dot com is.
23:12
Speaker 2: The best way. Of course. I'm at all social media.
23:14
Speaker 2: I'm easy to find. There's just not that many John Butcher's.
23:18
Speaker 1: There are many outdres It's the one and only John Butcher.
23:22
Speaker 1: Let's talk about some of the books on rock that
23:25
Speaker 1: you've read. I always love asking these questions. Books that
23:29
Speaker 1: you've read, want to read, want to see written. So
23:32
Speaker 1: let's get into a books on rock you've read. Right now,
23:34
Speaker 1: you're reading Life by Keith Richards. This book came out
23:36
Speaker 1: in twenty ten. It has since sold over one million copies.
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Speaker 1: One I mean for books that is very rare.
23:43
Speaker 2: I can tell you why. Unlike a lot of guys,
23:48
Speaker 2: Keith said what was real? He said it. A lot
23:52
Speaker 2: of the things that he says and has said people
23:55
Speaker 2: take issue with, but the guy's outspoken and who if
23:59
Speaker 2: not him, has earned the right at a little truthiness.
24:03
Speaker 2: You know. He talks about the Stones, he talks about
24:07
Speaker 2: his relationship with Mick, and he gives insight into what
24:12
Speaker 2: a crazy ride the Rolling Stones were from the start
24:16
Speaker 2: till now. The fact that they're still doing it now
24:19
Speaker 2: says everything that needs to be said about that guy,
24:22
Speaker 2: Keith Richards.
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Speaker 1: What do you think would have happened if because we
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Speaker 1: know in the mid eighties Keith did some solo stuff
24:28
Speaker 1: and Mick did some solo stuff. If either one of
24:31
Speaker 1: those careers really took off, like if Mick had a
24:35
Speaker 1: career like Phil Collins selling millions of albums, would we
24:39
Speaker 1: ever have seen the Stones again?
24:41
Speaker 2: What you were suggesting, in my opinion is impossible. Here's why.
24:46
Speaker 2: We all know Mick did his solo records. We all know,
24:49
Speaker 2: and they were good.
24:50
Speaker 1: They're good.
24:51
Speaker 2: And we all know Keith did solo records, and a
24:54
Speaker 2: couple of those are great.
24:56
Speaker 1: I love them.
24:56
Speaker 2: But the truth is, neither of them could eclipse the
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Speaker 2: shadow that the Rolling Stones cast on rock. Neither of
25:04
Speaker 2: them impossible. It can't happen because that shadow is large everywhere,
25:11
Speaker 2: no matter where you go.
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Speaker 1: And you know they realize that too. By the end
25:15
Speaker 1: of the eighties. Yeah, they realized they needed each.
25:19
Speaker 2: Other and they worked through bad stuff, you know what
25:23
Speaker 2: I mean. I would love to meet Keith Richards. I
25:27
Speaker 2: really would, because if he's not an og, I don't
25:33
Speaker 2: know who is.
25:34
Speaker 1: He is amazing and from what I've heard, he's just
25:36
Speaker 1: a down to earth guy.
25:37
Speaker 2: I would love to meet him. I hope I get
25:39
Speaker 2: a chance to sometime.
25:41
Speaker 1: Somebody was telling me a story about they were on
25:44
Speaker 1: vacation somewhere and this older gentleman with a dog comes
25:49
Speaker 1: walking up to them because this person had a dog
25:51
Speaker 1: and he was He's like, oh, I love your dog.
25:53
Speaker 1: There and he had the English accident. He looks up.
25:54
Speaker 1: It's Keith Richards and he just wanted to talk about
25:57
Speaker 1: regular stuff. He didn't want it wasn't the rockstar attitude.
26:01
Speaker 2: Not the coolest guy playing guitar as far as I'm living.
26:05
Speaker 1: What is it about his style of playing that makes
26:08
Speaker 1: him so unique?
26:09
Speaker 2: Oh that's easy. It's stupidly simple. It's not complicated. So
26:15
Speaker 2: many guitar players have become sort of speed demons, one
26:20
Speaker 2: playing faster than the other, and that flurry of notes
26:24
Speaker 2: usually washes right over most people. They can't hear it.
26:29
Speaker 2: Keith Richards simplicity as a player, and finding licks. We
26:35
Speaker 2: remember playing licks. You remember, they're in my DNA. You know,
26:41
Speaker 2: start me up. It's it's in everybody's DNA. That is
26:46
Speaker 2: a particular talent that very few guitar players have. Simplicity,
26:53
Speaker 2: economy and licks. You remember.
26:57
Speaker 1: You know it's interesting that you say that, because I
26:59
Speaker 1: remember somewhere reading about how lyrically he is exactly the
27:03
Speaker 1: same way when he takes his lyrics He really strips
27:06
Speaker 1: it down to the basics, sent the yes, yes.
27:10
Speaker 2: Well that's the that has become the Stones formula. That's them.
27:17
Speaker 2: They take this simple thing and spin it in a
27:21
Speaker 2: way that's infectious that you remember. If you can't tell,
27:26
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan.
27:27
Speaker 1: Books you haven't read yet, but plan on Room Full
27:30
Speaker 1: of Mirrors of Biography of Jimmy Hendricks by Charles R. Cross.
27:34
Speaker 1: Also Hendrix Setting the Record Straight by John McDermott and
27:38
Speaker 1: Eddie Kramer.
27:39
Speaker 2: I haven't read. I want to read the John McDermott book.
27:43
Speaker 2: John McDermott is responsible for creating the experience Hendrick's tour.
27:50
Speaker 2: He is affiliated with the family, the Hendricks estate, and
27:54
Speaker 2: so he that I'm hoping that in that book are
27:57
Speaker 2: insights that you couldn't get from you know. And let
28:03
Speaker 2: me tell you.
28:05
Speaker 1: I was.
28:08
Speaker 2: Fifteen, sixteen years old and I heard Purple Haze. And
28:15
Speaker 2: it's hard to explain, especially in today, twenty twenty five,
28:20
Speaker 2: how a thing can like alter your DNA alter it.
28:25
Speaker 2: Somehow I was changed. I was in my room. I
28:29
Speaker 2: had one of those record players that you open and
28:31
Speaker 2: you close the record and the needle was in the
28:34
Speaker 2: lid and you play it like that, right, that's old school, dude.
28:38
Speaker 2: And I listened to that song oh fifty times in
28:43
Speaker 2: a row, sixty trying to understand woooooooooo, trying to understand
28:51
Speaker 2: what I was hearing, you know, and feedback that inextricably
28:58
Speaker 2: changed me. And so there are many guitar players I
29:03
Speaker 2: admire and have learned from, Jeff Beck being one, but Jimmy,
29:08
Speaker 2: Jimmy created my path.
29:11
Speaker 1: Dennis McNally, he was the Grateful Dead publicist for a while,
29:14
Speaker 1: but he's also an amazing author, and he wrote this
29:17
Speaker 1: great book recently about the San Francisco Hate Ashbury scene,
29:21
Speaker 1: and he's talking about the concert in sixty seven Monterey,
29:27
Speaker 1: and Jimmy was unfortunately, you know, if you handed him drugs,
29:32
Speaker 1: he would take it. So he was really out of it.
29:34
Speaker 1: And there was somebody that had seen him backstage like
29:37
Speaker 1: minutes before he's going on, and he looked like I
29:41
Speaker 1: think he described it as like a like a pile
29:43
Speaker 1: of laundry sitting there, like there's no way he's gonna
29:45
Speaker 1: he's no way he's gonna get up there, like we're
29:47
Speaker 1: gonna have to figure something. He got up on stage
29:49
Speaker 1: and just killed it. Yeah, and that's I guess something
29:54
Speaker 1: you can speak to more as a musician. There's something
29:56
Speaker 1: that happens. I guess when you hit the stage, no matter, there's.
29:59
Speaker 2: No doubt about it. It's a supercharge. Imagine, before you
30:03
Speaker 2: go on stage, you have the most potent energy drink
30:07
Speaker 2: you've ever had, right that, when the house lights go
30:11
Speaker 2: down and you hear the first roar zoom, you know,
30:15
Speaker 2: you're shot full of adrenaline. And I think that's what
30:19
Speaker 2: Jimmy was playing on. Of course, the drugs killed him,
30:22
Speaker 2: but the fact is that jolt that you get is
30:27
Speaker 2: hard to explain, but it's palpable, you can feel it.
30:30
Speaker 1: What do you think he would have gone on to do.
30:33
Speaker 2: I'm certain he would have ended up in some facet
30:37
Speaker 2: of jazz. I'm certain of it.
30:39
Speaker 1: Right, That's what a lot of people have said.
30:40
Speaker 2: Well, here's why he was experimenting. At the end of
30:43
Speaker 2: his career. You began to hear experimentation. You began to
30:47
Speaker 2: hear him want to break out of purple haze. Right.
30:52
Speaker 2: He didn't want to live there anymore. He wanted to experiment. Well,
30:56
Speaker 2: what happens when guitar players start seeking elsewhere and look
31:02
Speaker 2: and casting about and looking for other inspiration. Oftentimes it
31:06
Speaker 2: leads you to jazz.
31:08
Speaker 1: Booked on Rock podcasts. We'll be back after this.
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Speaker 2: Oh this is heavy. There's that word again, heavy? Why
31:14
Speaker 2: A thanks so heavy that future? Is there a problem
31:16
Speaker 2: with yours? Gravitational pull?
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31:55
Speaker 1: All right, some other books that you want to read.
31:57
Speaker 1: They Can't Hide Us Anymore by Richie Havens. And also
32:00
Speaker 1: you have Joey Kramer's book Hit Hard. Haven't read that
32:02
Speaker 1: one yet.
32:03
Speaker 2: Everybody tells me that's a good book because Joe look,
32:07
Speaker 2: you know, as the drummer of Aerosmith, he was there
32:09
Speaker 2: from the very beginning. I mean from day one there
32:12
Speaker 2: he was in Brighton, Massachusetts, Cleveland Circle, and I would
32:17
Speaker 2: run into these guys in the street, I mean literally
32:20
Speaker 2: doing laundry at the laundry mat or the common market,
32:24
Speaker 2: you know, a closed store back then. And so you're
32:26
Speaker 2: walking the street like London, You're walking around and you're
32:29
Speaker 2: seeing these guys in real life, and it makes you
32:34
Speaker 2: feel like that you belong there, that you're part of
32:37
Speaker 2: this tapestry. So Joey Kramer's book is, as I understand it,
32:42
Speaker 2: a real insight into the Aerosmith dynamic. I'm really looking
32:46
Speaker 2: forward to reading it.
32:48
Speaker 1: What's the first thing that comes to mind when you
32:49
Speaker 1: think about Aerosmith's impact on rock history.
32:52
Speaker 2: If they weren't the American Rolling Stones, then there is
32:55
Speaker 2: no such thing. Case closed Tyler. In his early days
32:59
Speaker 2: when he was getting famous, a lot of guys would mention,
33:02
Speaker 2: you know, the American Mick Jagger. I don't know if
33:05
Speaker 2: that's true, but I do know this. I can't think
33:09
Speaker 2: of another American band that had the same broad appeal
33:15
Speaker 2: to several generations, not just one, that Aerosmith had in
33:21
Speaker 2: their heyday. So I give them a lot of credit
33:24
Speaker 2: for making rock homespun. We didn't need to just look
33:30
Speaker 2: at the Rolling Stones in England. We had Aerosmith here
33:34
Speaker 2: in America.
33:35
Speaker 1: You know what I thought was really cool. I'd have
33:37
Speaker 1: heard this more often than not. Grunge rock artist grun
33:41
Speaker 1: rock bands among the bands who inspired them early Aerosmith, that.
33:47
Speaker 2: Doesn't which is so cool.
33:48
Speaker 1: Yeah.
33:48
Speaker 2: No, if you listen to their arrow, you know before
33:52
Speaker 2: all of the dude looks like a lady before that,
33:54
Speaker 2: right right? They were basic and R and B and
33:59
Speaker 2: blue driven rock. And Tyler had a way of being
34:05
Speaker 2: the voice of that. I mean, a real distinctive voice.
34:09
Speaker 2: So it doesn't surprise me that their shadow is large.
34:13
Speaker 1: Here's what I'd love to know, John, I mean, you
34:15
Speaker 1: can answer this as a singer. He was just Stephen
34:17
Speaker 1: was just part of the Ozzy Osbourne tribute show. Sounded perfect,
34:23
Speaker 1: sounded great now? So yeah, is it just he could
34:27
Speaker 1: do a one off show because obviously Arismith had to
34:29
Speaker 1: call it quits because they're saying that Steven Tyler had
34:32
Speaker 1: an injury to his vocal chords, his voice, but yet
34:36
Speaker 1: he's there singing great. Is it that he can't do
34:38
Speaker 1: an extended tour?
34:39
Speaker 2: Well? That's one night. Yeah, you know, two nights whatever
34:43
Speaker 2: it was. That is not eighty cities. And remember I
34:48
Speaker 2: told you early on, it's not the gigs, just the gigs,
34:51
Speaker 2: but the traveling. Even if you, dude, if you're traveling
34:56
Speaker 2: first class, best the best planes and the best cars
35:00
Speaker 2: in the best hotels, you're still traveling. You're living out
35:04
Speaker 2: of a suitcase. You're not at home. If you catch
35:06
Speaker 2: a cold, it's a it's a problem, it's a bummer.
35:10
Speaker 2: Where's the closest drug store? Can I get nipwel? You
35:13
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So it doesn't matter how famous
35:15
Speaker 2: you are. The traveling kicks the stuff.
35:18
Speaker 1: Right out of you. And so there's something with his voice.
35:21
Speaker 1: It's just not strong enough to withstand that anymore.
35:24
Speaker 2: Oh and God bless him, he's only been doing it
35:27
Speaker 2: for forty years or whatever it is, you.
35:30
Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, just to see him up there again, it's like, Man,
35:33
Speaker 1: I miss Steven Tyler. Yes he killd it.
35:37
Speaker 2: Yes, I tell you that. Tell you that music still
35:40
Speaker 2: burns in his heart. That's what it is. He's not
35:44
Speaker 2: at home of counting his bank role. He wants to
35:48
Speaker 2: He wants to put it out there, whether or not
35:51
Speaker 2: he's able physically to still do eighty ninety one hundred
35:54
Speaker 2: and ten cities is immaterial to me.
35:57
Speaker 1: So what do you think he's doing? Because he can record,
36:00
Speaker 1: then I'm sure he could record if he wanted to.
36:02
Speaker 1: He's gotta be to do something, you.
36:04
Speaker 2: Know, I think he will. I do. You know guys
36:09
Speaker 2: like that, they take a break, they get rested that,
36:13
Speaker 2: you know, then they go out for a one off
36:15
Speaker 2: like with Ozzie and they go geez, I remember this,
36:17
Speaker 2: this is pretty cool. So I expect to see some
36:21
Speaker 2: one more thing from Steven speak of that.
36:23
Speaker 1: How about Ozzie? I thought sounded great. Yeah he was sitting,
36:27
Speaker 1: you know, everybody was concerned, like what's gonna happen. It's
36:29
Speaker 1: gonna be a disaster, But no.
36:31
Speaker 2: He did great. Is the same thing, It's the same dynamic.
36:35
Speaker 2: These are guys, the guys were talking about, David Lee,
36:37
Speaker 2: Roth Tyler, Ozzy. Music burns in them. It's like a
36:44
Speaker 2: coal that's still burning. That ember is hot and you
36:49
Speaker 2: got to do something with it.
36:51
Speaker 1: You know.
36:51
Speaker 2: For me, it was making nothing but soul. That ember
36:55
Speaker 2: was burning. I had to do it. And Tyler had
36:58
Speaker 2: to do that Ozzie homage. He had to be there
37:02
Speaker 2: I understand precisely how they feel.
37:04
Speaker 1: Let's finish with books on rock. You'd like to see written.
37:07
Speaker 1: You'd like to see a book about black musicians in rock?
37:10
Speaker 1: You say, quote, what do Sister Rosetta Tharp, Ben Harper,
37:14
Speaker 1: Ray White, Arthur Lee, Darryl Jones, Phil Lynnett, Vernon Reid
37:18
Speaker 1: and me all have in common? Black rock musicians, all
37:22
Speaker 1: indelible contributors into the book of rock, but not as
37:25
Speaker 1: well known as Jimmy Prince or Chuck Berry. I'd love
37:28
Speaker 1: to see a book on this as well, and I
37:30
Speaker 1: don't see why you should not be the guy to
37:32
Speaker 1: do it. Would you write a book one day?
37:34
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not sure if I have the patients,
37:37
Speaker 2: I would sure like to. I would love to collaborate
37:39
Speaker 2: with somebody at some point, I think, especially as my
37:42
Speaker 2: first time, a collaboration makes sense. But no, those artists
37:47
Speaker 2: that I mentioned, most people, you know, I I call
37:51
Speaker 2: it the people magazine people. They haven't heard those names,
37:55
Speaker 2: you know. They don't know who those guys are. They
37:57
Speaker 2: know who Prince is because he was able to break
38:01
Speaker 2: outside of black rock musician into the mainstream. But that
38:06
Speaker 2: doesn't happen all the time. So Yeah, I would love
38:08
Speaker 2: to see a book like that, and if I could
38:10
Speaker 2: be involved in it, I would love to to you.
38:12
Speaker 1: Arthur Lee love. I finally had a chance within the
38:15
Speaker 1: last few years to really dive into their catalog.
38:18
Speaker 2: It's eye opening. You can see seeds, you know what
38:23
Speaker 2: I mean. You hear little beginnings of things that went
38:26
Speaker 2: and you know, in a direction. I love discovering music
38:30
Speaker 2: like that because there's gifts in it. There's discovery making.
38:36
Speaker 2: The discovery of new music is the best gift ever.
38:40
Speaker 2: I just love it.
38:41
Speaker 1: Yeah. Robert Plant was a huge fan of Arthur Lee. Yeah,
38:44
Speaker 1: I think that says it all. That says it all.
38:47
Speaker 1: You were getting airplane MTV at a time when black
38:49
Speaker 1: artists were not getting much airplay at all. In fact,
38:51
Speaker 1: you're the only black rock guitar player on MTV at
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Speaker 1: one time. Correct.
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Speaker 2: Isn't that weird? It's so weird to think about it
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Speaker 2: like that. My early record companies, when we started to
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Speaker 2: take off access, I don't think they knew what to do.
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Speaker 2: I really don't. I don't think they knew exactly how
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Speaker 2: to you know, well, wait a minute, he's rock. Of course,
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Speaker 2: there was Jimmy or Jimmy Henders. I don't think they
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Speaker 2: knew what to do with me. Now today, the business
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Speaker 2: has changed so fundamentally that it's fragmented into several niches,
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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But then it was still
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Speaker 2: a conglomerate. You know, there was corporate rock. There was
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Speaker 2: corporate rock music video TV, and that's what it was.
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Speaker 2: And so being there in those early days was interesting,
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Speaker 2: I'll say it that way.
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Speaker 1: There's a famous clip of David Bowie criticizing MTV while
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Speaker 1: being interviewed by MTV, saying, you don't have enough black
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Speaker 1: artists on because I remember, I think Michael Jackson was
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Speaker 1: really the guy that became the first pop artist on
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Speaker 1: MTV that really blew the doors open.
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Speaker 2: But well, he blew doors open though you said it
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Speaker 2: right there. No one opened the door for him. You know,
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Speaker 2: he blew them open, and that's what it took.
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Speaker 1: And Quincy also incorporating rock and roll elements into the
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Speaker 1: album Thriller with that e van Halen.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you having Eddie van Halen play on Beat. It
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Speaker 2: did not hurt. Michael Jackson booked on.
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Speaker 1: Rock Podcasts, will be back after this. Oh here's knife, Eddie.
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Speaker 2: Look the way to the future did the Horizon, never
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Speaker 2: his mind on where he was.
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Speaker 1: to the show. All right, before we wrap this up,
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Speaker 1: John tell us again about the new album. Where can
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Speaker 1: people get it? Where can people find you online?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Man, First of all, you can find me online
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Speaker 2: easily at John Butcher dot com. That's my website. If
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Speaker 2: you're at social media, type in your search box John Butcher,
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Speaker 2: I will almost certainly come up and you can get
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Speaker 2: the new album both at my website. Hard copy. You
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Speaker 2: can go to John Butcher dot com and we'll send
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Speaker 2: you a hard copy or you can download it at
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Speaker 2: all the usual suspects.
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Speaker 1: And there is a link to the album in the
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Speaker 1: show notes. People can go there give it a listen.
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Speaker 1: This is a kick ass album. You're on fire. I
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Speaker 1: keep saying that, but that's the first thought that comes
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Speaker 1: in mind.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me on. I really enjoyed.
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Speaker 2: I really enjoyed the chat. Fun, great questions and anytime
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Speaker 2: if you want to have you back on ready.
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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, And I hope you come around my way.
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Speaker 1: Maybe on this tour you come around with Connecticut.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure I'll be down there. I'm sure.
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Speaker 1: All right, cool John, thank you, thank you so much for.
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Speaker 2: Having me on.
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Speaker 1: No, no, that was an adventure.
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Speaker 2: I was quite assure you put on the bank. Well,
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Speaker 2: let me just close this conversation by saying you are
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Speaker 2: one unique individual.