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Please, Please, Please (5 Stages of Bobby Nash Grief) · The Buddie System: A 9-1-1 Yapathon

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Welcome
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to
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therapy
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hour
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with
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the
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buddy
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system.
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Grab
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an
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emotional
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support
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plushie
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and
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tissues.
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Because
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we're
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going
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through
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the
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stages
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of
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grief.
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This
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is
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a
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special
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episode
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containing
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spoilers
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for
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season
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eight,
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episode
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15,
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lab
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rats.
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If
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you
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haven't
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watched
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it,
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pause
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now
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and
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come
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back
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after
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you're
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done
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because
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you're
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gonna
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need
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some
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buddies.
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Hi.
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Hello.
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We
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are
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gathered
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here
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today.
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Oh
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no,
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no,
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we're
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not
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doing
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a
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eulogy.
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We're
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gathered
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here
0:31
today
0:31
not
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to
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talk
0:32
about
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episodes
0:33
14
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and
0:33
15
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like
0:34
we
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originally
0:34
told
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you.
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We're
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so
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sorry.
0:36
Don't
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blame
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us.
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Blame
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Tim
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Minier.
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Just
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want
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to
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be
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clear.
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We
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just
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are
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not
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an
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emotional
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state
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to
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like
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deep
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dive
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into
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the
0:45
character
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arcs
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and
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the
0:47
themes
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and
0:48
the.
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No,
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we
0:49
can't
0:49
do
0:49
it.
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We're
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going
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through
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it
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and
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we're
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going
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through
0:52
the
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stages
0:52
of
0:53
grief.
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So
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someone
0:55
on
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our
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live
0:57
stream
0:57
after
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the
0:57
episode
0:58
suggested
0:59
why
0:59
don't
0:59
you
1:00
like
1:00
just
1:01
do
1:01
a
1:02
like
1:02
touch
1:02
based
1:03
episode
1:03
instead
1:04
of,
1:04
you
1:04
know,
1:05
your
1:05
regular
1:05
one.
1:05
Because
1:05
we
1:06
were
1:06
like,
1:06
we
1:06
don't
1:06
know
1:06
if
1:07
we
1:07
can
1:07
do
1:07
it.
1:07
And
1:07
thank
1:07
you
1:08
for
1:08
that
1:08
idea.
1:09
Thank
1:10
you.
1:10
So
1:11
what
1:11
we
1:11
decided,
1:12
Rachel
1:12
had
1:12
this
1:12
idea
1:13
of
1:13
doing
1:13
the
1:13
five
1:14
stages
1:14
of
1:14
grief.
1:15
So
1:15
we're
1:15
going
1:16
to
1:16
do
1:16
five
1:16
sections.
1:18
We're
1:19
going
1:19
to
1:19
do
1:19
G
1:20
denial
1:21
and
1:21
talk
1:21
about
1:22
why
1:22
this
1:22
could
1:23
not
1:23
be.
1:24
And
1:24
maybe
1:24
should
1:24
not.
1:25
A
1:25
real
1:26
real.
1:26
Yep.
1:27
And
1:28
why
1:28
it
1:28
shouldn't.
1:29
And
1:29
then
1:29
we're
1:29
gonna,
1:30
we're
1:30
gonna
1:30
be
1:30
angry
1:31
for
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a
1:32
little
1:32
bit.
1:32
Just
1:33
a
1:33
little
1:33
angry.
1:34
Which
1:34
we
1:34
don't
1:34
usually
1:35
do.
1:35
No,
1:36
we
1:36
don't.
1:36
But
1:36
we
1:36
have
1:37
to
1:37
get
1:37
it
1:37
out.
1:38
We're
1:38
sorry.
1:39
Except
1:39
Tim,
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this
1:40
is
1:41
your
1:41
fault.
1:41
Speaking
1:42
of
1:42
Tim.
1:42
Bargaining
1:43
is
1:43
just
1:43
gonna
1:44
be
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an
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open
1:44
letter
1:44
to
1:44
Tim,
1:45
my
1:45
nearest.
1:46
Directly.
1:47
Yes.
1:48
To.
1:48
To
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bargain
1:49
with
1:49
him.
1:50
Mayhaps
1:50
then
1:51
we
1:51
have
1:51
depression
1:52
which
1:52
is
1:52
self
1:52
explanatory.
1:53
And
1:54
then
1:54
acceptance.
1:56
Loosely
1:57
acceptance.
1:58
So
1:58
in
1:59
the
1:59
loosest
1:59
definition
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of
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the
2:00
term.
2:00
Yeah,
2:01
yeah.
2:01
Very
2:02
briefly,
2:02
let's.
2:03
Let's
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touch
2:04
base
2:04
with
2:04
where
2:05
the
2:05
three
2:05
of
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us
2:06
are
2:06
individually.
2:07
Not
2:08
good.
2:09
Bad.
2:09
Very
2:10
bad.
2:10
Very
2:11
bad.
2:13
My
2:13
line.
2:15
Yeah,
2:16
we're
2:16
not
2:16
good.
2:17
I'm
2:17
not
2:17
good.
2:18
I'm.
2:19
I'm
2:19
still
2:19
in
2:19
the
2:20
denial
2:22
anchor
2:23
but
2:23
also
2:24
acceptance
2:24
kind
2:25
of
2:25
stages.
2:25
I
2:25
don't
2:26
know
2:26
where
2:26
really
2:26
I
2:26
am
2:27
because
2:27
I
2:27
keep
2:28
thinking
2:28
that
2:28
this
2:28
is
2:28
a
2:29
fake
2:29
out.
2:29
But
2:30
then
2:30
they
2:30
have
2:30
all
2:30
these
2:31
interviews.
2:32
You've
2:32
got
2:32
the
2:32
Kenny
2:32
one
2:33
and
2:33
then
2:33
you
2:33
got
2:33
to
2:33
my
2:33
near.
2:34
And
2:34
then
2:34
you
2:34
got
2:34
Angela
2:35
and.
2:35
And
2:35
it's
2:36
kind
2:36
of
2:36
just
2:36
like
2:37
I
2:37
don't
2:37
know
2:38
what
2:38
to
2:38
believe.
2:38
And
2:38
then
2:39
you've
2:39
got
2:39
the,
2:39
the
2:40
like
2:40
all
2:41
the
2:41
things
2:42
leading
2:42
up
2:42
to
2:43
this
2:43
point.
2:43
It's
2:43
just
2:43
Like,
2:44
I
2:44
don't
2:44
know
2:44
what
2:44
to
2:45
believe.
2:45
And
2:45
no,
2:46
Tim,
2:46
the
2:47
body
2:47
bag
2:47
did
2:48
not
2:48
convince
2:49
me.
2:50
Body
2:50
bag
2:50
was
2:51
not
2:51
a
2:51
body.
2:52
No,
2:53
no,
2:53
it's
2:53
just
2:53
a
2:53
bag.
2:54
It's
2:54
just
2:54
a
2:54
bag.
2:55
Didn't.
2:55
It's
2:56
just
2:56
a
2:56
boppy
2:56
bag.
2:57
Like,
2:58
unless
2:58
you're
2:58
actually
2:58
like.
2:59
Like,
2:59
I
2:59
feel
2:59
like
3:00
they
3:00
should
3:00
have
3:00
just
3:01
show
3:01
me
3:02
him
3:03
being
3:03
put
3:03
like,
3:04
you
3:04
know.
3:04
Yeah.
3:04
Him.
3:05
Like
3:05
a
3:05
little
3:05
bit
3:05
of
3:06
his
3:06
head.
3:06
Yeah.
3:07
Like,
3:08
what
3:08
are
3:08
we
3:08
doing
3:08
here?
3:08
We're
3:08
gonna
3:09
touch
3:09
on
3:09
that.
3:09
In
3:09
denial
3:09
also.
3:10
Yeah.
3:10
Yeah.
3:10
But
3:11
yeah,
3:11
I'm
3:11
in
3:11
this.
3:12
Like,
3:12
I
3:12
accept
3:13
that
3:13
he's
3:13
dead.
3:15
That's
3:15
it.
3:16
I
3:16
accept
3:16
it.
3:17
Don't
3:17
know
3:17
what.
3:18
What
3:18
else
3:18
to
3:18
do
3:18
with
3:18
that.
3:19
Yeah,
3:19
I.
3:20
I
3:20
believe
3:21
you
3:21
100%
3:22
that
3:22
he's
3:22
dead.
3:22
Yep.
3:23
A
3:23
hundred
3:23
percent
3:24
accepted
3:24
that.
3:25
Yeah.
3:26
Yeah.
3:26
I'm
3:27
a
3:27
little
3:28
all
3:28
over
3:28
the
3:28
place.
3:29
Well,
3:29
I've.
3:30
I've
3:30
been
3:31
so
3:32
sure.
3:33
And
3:34
I
3:34
won't
3:34
even
3:35
say
3:35
in
3:35
like
3:35
a
3:35
delulu
3:36
kind
3:36
of
3:36
way
3:37
in
3:37
like
3:37
a.
3:38
The
3:38
narrative
3:39
is
3:39
leading
3:39
me
3:39
to
3:40
believe
3:40
this
3:41
kind
3:41
of
3:41
way
3:41
that
3:42
I've
3:42
been
3:42
like,
3:42
things
3:43
are
3:43
fine.
3:44
I'm
3:44
not
3:44
gonna
3:45
crash
3:45
out
3:45
about
3:45
it
3:46
until
3:46
I
3:46
see
3:46
it
3:47
on
3:47
my
3:47
screen.
3:48
It's
3:48
cool.
3:49
We're.
3:49
We're
3:50
not
3:50
in
3:50
denial
3:51
before
3:51
it
3:52
happened.
3:52
I'm
3:53
just
3:53
like,
3:53
I'm
3:54
holding
3:54
out
3:54
judgment.
3:55
And
3:56
then
3:56
we
3:56
watched
3:56
the
3:57
show
3:57
last
3:57
night
3:57
and.
3:57
And
3:58
I.
3:58
I
3:58
just
3:59
kept
3:59
flip
3:59
flopping
4:00
in
4:00
between
4:00
and.
4:01
And
4:01
like,
4:02
again,
4:02
check
4:02
out
4:03
the
4:03
live
4:03
stream
4:03
because
4:04
it's.
4:04
I'm.
4:05
I'm
4:05
talking
4:06
myself
4:06
in
4:06
circles
4:07
about
4:08
whether
4:08
I
4:08
think
4:08
it's
4:09
real
4:09
or
4:09
not
4:10
real.
4:10
And.
4:10
And
4:11
I
4:11
woke
4:11
up
4:11
this
4:11
morning
4:12
and.
4:12
And
4:12
I
4:12
was
4:13
like,
4:13
yeah,
4:14
I
4:14
think.
4:14
I
4:14
think
4:14
it's
4:15
still
4:15
a
4:15
fake
4:15
out.
4:16
And
4:16
then
4:16
I
4:16
read
4:16
the
4:17
press
4:17
articles
4:18
and
4:18
like
4:19
this
4:19
morning
4:20
and
4:20
I
4:20
started
4:21
crying
4:21
again.
4:21
Cause
4:21
I
4:22
was
4:22
like,
4:22
ooh,
4:22
this.
4:23
This
4:23
doesn't
4:23
feel.
4:24
This
4:24
doesn't
4:25
feel
4:25
real
4:25
good.
4:26
So
4:26
that
4:26
gave
4:26
me
4:26
all.
4:27
All
4:27
sort
4:27
of.
4:27
That
4:28
just
4:28
like
4:28
all
4:28
sorts
4:29
of
4:29
emotions.
4:29
I'm
4:30
somewhere
4:30
in
4:30
between
4:30
here.
4:31
During.
4:32
During
4:32
the
4:32
episode,
4:33
I
4:34
went
4:34
into
4:34
it
4:35
being
4:35
like,
4:35
he's
4:35
gonna
4:35
be
4:36
fine.
4:36
Like,
4:36
I
4:37
knew
4:37
he
4:37
was
4:37
gonna
4:37
die,
4:37
but
4:38
I
4:38
was
4:38
like,
4:38
he's
4:38
coming
4:38
back.
4:39
Like,
4:39
this
4:39
is
4:39
a
4:40
fake
4:40
out.
4:40
Whether
4:41
it's
4:41
a
4:41
coma
4:41
dream,
4:41
whether
4:42
he's
4:42
being
4:42
buried
4:42
alive.
4:43
Know
4:43
how
4:44
that's
4:44
happening
4:44
in
4:45
16.
4:45
But
4:45
I
4:45
was
4:45
like,
4:46
he's
4:46
coming
4:46
back,
4:46
so
4:47
I'm
4:47
not
4:47
gonna
4:47
be
4:48
upset.
4:49
As
4:49
upset
4:49
as
4:50
like,
4:50
I
4:50
should
4:50
be
4:50
had
4:50
I
4:51
not
4:51
been
4:52
spoiled
4:52
for
4:52
things.
4:53
We'll
4:53
get
4:53
into
4:53
that.
4:54
And
4:54
then
4:54
during
4:54
the
4:54
live
4:55
stream,
4:55
I
4:55
started
4:56
out
4:56
again
4:56
in
4:56
that
4:57
same
4:57
place,
4:57
just
4:57
like,
4:57
well,
4:58
I'm
4:58
so
4:58
sure.
4:58
But
4:58
then
4:59
we
5:00
started
5:00
seeing
5:00
like
5:01
quotes
5:01
from
5:01
the
5:01
interviews
5:02
and
5:02
I
5:02
was
5:02
like,
5:03
a
5:04
little
5:04
less
5:04
sure,
5:05
A
5:06
little
5:06
less
5:06
sure,
5:07
a
5:07
little
5:07
less
5:07
sure.
5:08
And
5:08
I
5:08
think
5:08
I
5:08
got
5:08
all
5:09
the
5:09
way
5:09
down
5:09
to
5:09
like
5:10
30,
5:10
70.
5:11
He's
5:11
dead.
5:12
Dead.
5:12
Like,
5:13
like
5:14
30
5:14
chance
5:14
he's
5:15
ever
5:15
coming
5:15
back.
5:16
And
5:17
then
5:17
I
5:17
went
5:18
to
5:18
sleep
5:18
and
5:18
I
5:18
woke
5:19
up
5:19
and
5:20
I
5:20
was
5:20
like,
5:21
I
5:21
haven't
5:21
felt
5:22
this
5:22
way
5:22
about
5:23
a
5:23
character
5:23
death
5:24
since
5:25
endgame.
5:26
Like,
5:26
this
5:26
is
5:27
really
5:27
bad.
5:28
And
5:29
then
5:29
the
5:29
first
5:29
thing
5:29
that
5:30
I
5:30
saw
5:31
this
5:31
morning
5:32
was
5:32
Kenny's
5:33
interview.
5:34
Yeah.
5:35
And
5:36
like
5:36
all
5:36
the
5:36
other
5:36
interviews,
5:37
I
5:37
was
5:37
like,
5:37
Tim
5:38
is
5:38
a
5:38
non
5:38
liar.
5:39
I
5:39
mean
5:39
they
5:40
all
5:40
lie.
5:40
For
5:40
a
5:40
profession
5:41
that's
5:41
acting
5:42
and
5:42
then
5:42
press
5:43
doing
5:43
press
5:44
is
5:45
pr,
5:45
so
5:46
it's
5:46
part
5:46
lying.
5:47
So
5:47
I
5:47
was
5:47
taking
5:48
all
5:48
of
5:48
it
5:48
with
5:48
a
5:48
grain
5:49
of
5:49
salt,
5:50
especially
5:50
Tim.
5:50
Stuff
5:51
I
5:51
always
5:51
take
5:51
with
5:51
a
5:51
grain
5:52
of
5:52
salt.
5:52
But
5:53
Kenny's
5:53
stuff,
5:53
I
5:54
was
5:54
like,
5:54
this
5:55
is
5:55
either
5:55
the
5:55
world's
5:56
best
5:56
performance.
5:57
Give
5:58
him
5:58
a
5:58
fucking
5:59
Emmy,
6:00
an
6:01
Oscar,
6:01
an
6:01
Emmy.
6:01
I
6:01
don't
6:02
know
6:02
what
6:02
you
6:02
would
6:02
get.
6:02
Give
6:02
him
6:03
an
6:03
ego
6:03
at
6:03
this
6:04
point.
6:04
Yeah,
6:05
yeah.
6:05
Because
6:05
he
6:06
made
6:06
me
6:06
cry.
6:07
And
6:07
I
6:07
was
6:07
like,
6:07
well,
6:08
he's
6:08
dead.
6:08
He's
6:08
dead.
6:09
Dead.
6:09
This
6:09
is
6:10
what
6:10
convinced
6:10
me.
6:11
So
6:11
now
6:11
I'm
6:11
99.9%
6:12
sure
6:13
that
6:13
he's
6:13
dead.
6:14
0.1%.
6:15
I'm,
6:15
I'm
6:16
holding
6:16
out
6:16
hope.
6:17
And
6:17
you
6:18
know
6:18
what?
6:18
I
6:18
would
6:18
love
6:18
to
6:18
be
6:19
wrong.
6:19
I
6:19
would
6:19
love
6:19
for
6:19
them
6:20
to
6:20
say
6:20
got
6:20
you.
6:20
I
6:20
think
6:20
that
6:21
would
6:21
be
6:21
a
6:21
great
6:21
got
6:22
you.
6:22
I
6:22
think
6:23
that
6:23
that
6:23
would
6:23
actually
6:24
be
6:24
a
6:24
way
6:24
better
6:25
storytelling.
6:26
And
6:26
it
6:26
would
6:27
be
6:27
a
6:27
little
6:27
messed
6:28
up,
6:28
but
6:28
it
6:28
would
6:28
be
6:28
less
6:29
messed
6:29
up
6:29
than
6:29
if
6:30
he's
6:30
dead.
6:30
Dead.
6:31
Yeah,
6:31
it
6:31
would
6:31
be
6:31
messed
6:32
up
6:32
in
6:32
a
6:32
way
6:32
of
6:33
like,
6:33
I
6:33
emotionally
6:34
manipulated
6:34
you.
6:35
Yes.
6:36
Haha.
6:37
Has
6:38
like
6:38
any
6:39
other.
6:39
Has
6:39
there
6:40
ever
6:40
been
6:40
a
6:40
TV
6:40
show
6:41
that
6:41
would
6:41
have
6:41
done
6:41
like
6:41
this
6:42
very
6:43
elaborate
6:43
gotcha
6:44
like,
6:45
like
6:45
with
6:46
the,
6:46
with.
6:46
The
6:47
leaks
6:47
and
6:47
the
6:47
press
6:48
and
6:48
the.
6:48
The
6:48
leaks
6:49
and
6:49
all.
6:50
I
6:50
don't
6:50
know
6:51
to
6:51
the
6:51
extent
6:51
of
6:52
like
6:52
what
6:52
level
6:53
other
6:53
shows
6:53
have
6:54
done
6:54
it.
6:54
It
6:55
would
6:55
have
6:55
people
6:56
talking,
6:57
it
6:57
would
6:57
go
6:58
down
6:58
like
6:59
in
6:59
the
6:59
books,
7:00
you
7:00
know,
7:00
history.
7:01
Yeah,
7:02
I
7:02
mean,
7:02
I
7:02
don't
7:02
think
7:02
it's
7:02
been
7:03
done
7:03
for
7:03
a
7:03
show
7:03
of
7:04
this
7:04
magnitude
7:05
because
7:05
this
7:05
is
7:05
a
7:05
big
7:06
show.
7:06
It's
7:06
a
7:07
big
7:07
show
7:07
on
7:07
a
7:08
big
7:08
network.
7:08
It's
7:08
very
7:09
popular,
7:09
it's.
7:10
And
7:10
it's
7:11
high,
7:11
highly
7:12
rated.
7:12
So
7:13
this
7:13
episode's
7:14
not.
7:14
But
7:15
no.
7:18
Anyway,
7:18
that's
7:19
where
7:19
we're
7:19
at.
7:20
So
7:21
sit
7:21
down
7:21
and
7:22
let's
7:22
hold
7:23
hands
7:23
and
7:24
talk
7:24
about
7:24
how
7:25
Bobby
7:25
Nash
7:26
isn't
7:26
actually
7:26
dead
7:27
and
7:27
why
7:28
he,
7:28
he
7:29
shouldn't
7:29
be
7:29
dead
7:29
if
7:29
he
7:29
is
7:30
dead.
7:30
We're
7:30
this
7:30
is
7:31
denial.
7:31
We're
7:31
in.
7:32
We're
7:32
in
7:32
denial
7:33
by
7:33
Doji.
7:34
Deep,
7:35
deep
7:35
denial.
7:36
It's
7:36
not.
7:36
Denial
7:37
is
7:37
a
7:37
river.
7:40
Bobby
7:41
isn't
7:41
dead.
7:42
No.
7:43
So
7:44
we
7:44
talked
7:44
about
7:45
this
7:45
on
7:45
the
7:45
podcast
7:45
before,
7:46
but
7:47
in
7:47
a
7:47
different.
7:49
A
7:50
different
7:51
use.
7:51
But
7:52
there's
7:52
been
7:52
a
7:52
lot
7:52
of
7:53
foreshadowing
7:54
for,
7:54
like
7:54
a
7:54
coma
7:55
thing.
7:55
But
7:55
we're
7:56
going
7:56
to
7:56
talk
7:56
about
7:57
foreshadowing
7:57
specifically.
7:58
First
7:59
for.
7:59
For
8:00
Bobby
8:00
to
8:01
be
8:02
fake
8:02
dead.
8:04
In
8:04
episode
8:05
four
8:05
of
8:05
this
8:06
season,
8:06
we
8:07
get
8:07
a
8:07
throwback
8:08
to
8:09
season
8:09
two
8:10
montage
8:11
of
8:12
everyone
8:12
coming
8:13
to
8:13
visit
8:13
Bobby
8:14
at
8:14
home
8:15
because
8:16
Bobby
8:16
isn't
8:17
captain
8:17
right
8:17
now.
8:18
And
8:18
it's
8:19
just
8:19
a
8:19
montage
8:20
that
8:20
shows
8:20
you
8:20
that
8:21
the
8:21
118
8:21
doesn't
8:22
work
8:23
without
8:23
Bobby
8:24
as
8:24
captain.
8:25
And
8:25
how
8:25
do
8:25
we
8:25
know
8:26
that?
8:26
Oh,
8:26
because
8:26
all
8:27
the
8:27
characters
8:27
say
8:28
it.
8:29
Yeah.
8:29
And
8:30
they're
8:30
begging
8:30
him
8:30
to
8:30
come
8:30
back.
8:31
Like
8:31
it
8:32
said
8:32
in
8:32
the
8:32
text.
8:33
And.
8:33
And
8:33
they're
8:33
like,
8:34
this
8:34
doesn't
8:34
work
8:34
without
8:35
you.
8:35
And
8:36
it
8:36
shows
8:36
how
8:36
much
8:36
they
8:37
still
8:38
look
8:38
toward
8:39
and
8:39
rely
8:39
on
8:40
Bobby.
8:41
And
8:41
that
8:41
hasn't
8:42
changed.
8:43
So,
8:43
like,
8:43
another
8:44
piece
8:44
of
8:44
foreshadowing
8:45
could
8:45
be
8:45
like
8:46
in
8:46
805
8:47
masks,
8:48
he
8:48
was
8:48
dressed
8:48
as
8:49
Dracula,
8:49
you
8:49
know,
8:50
being
8:50
in
8:50
the
8:50
coffin,
8:51
rising.
8:52
Like
8:52
rising
8:52
from
8:53
the
8:53
dead
8:53
or
8:53
being
8:53
undead.
8:55
That
8:55
would
8:56
be
8:56
great.
8:56
He
8:57
could
8:57
just
8:57
be
8:57
napping
8:58
in
8:58
the.
8:58
In
8:58
the
8:58
coffin,
8:59
you
8:59
know,
8:59
for
8:59
vampire
9:00
sleep.
9:00
He'll.
9:01
He'll
9:01
come
9:01
out
9:02
eventually.
9:03
But,
9:03
like,
9:04
somebody
9:05
posted
9:05
the
9:06
clip
9:06
of
9:06
the.
9:07
The
9:07
Twilight
9:08
or
9:08
the
9:08
breaking
9:09
Dawn
9:09
Part
9:09
2
9:09
fake
9:10
out.
9:11
And
9:11
I
9:11
was
9:12
like,
9:12
oh,
9:13
oh,
9:13
the.
9:13
Vampire
9:14
whispered
9:14
Twilight
9:15
all
9:15
along.
9:16
Because
9:16
it
9:16
could
9:17
be
9:17
a
9:17
dream
9:17
or.
9:17
No,
9:18
a
9:18
vision.
9:18
It
9:19
was
9:19
a
9:19
vision,
9:19
right?
9:19
Yeah.
9:20
So
9:21
could
9:21
go
9:22
either
9:22
or.
9:23
Yeah,
9:23
totally.
9:25
Also,
9:25
in
9:26
808
9:27
wannabes,
9:27
we
9:28
had
9:28
that
9:28
whole
9:29
entire
9:30
scene
9:30
and
9:30
emergency
9:31
where
9:31
there
9:32
was
9:33
a
9:33
guy
9:34
on
9:34
the
9:34
ledge
9:34
of
9:34
a
9:35
bridge.
9:37
What
9:37
was
9:38
his
9:38
name?
9:38
Craig.
9:39
His
9:40
name
9:40
was
9:40
Craig.
9:41
And.
9:42
Sorry.
9:43
And
9:44
Brad
9:44
Torrance,
9:45
who
9:46
was
9:46
shadowing
9:47
the
9:47
118
9:48
at
9:49
that
9:49
time,
9:50
was
9:51
basically
9:52
talked
9:52
him
9:52
down
9:53
because
9:54
the
9:54
guy
9:54
was
9:55
a
9:55
fan
9:55
of
9:56
Hot
9:56
Shots.
9:57
And
9:58
Brad
9:58
was
9:58
talking
9:58
about.
9:59
Oh,
9:59
you
9:59
know,
10:00
he
10:00
thinks
10:00
they're
10:00
going
10:01
to.
10:01
He
10:01
thinks
10:01
they
10:02
should
10:02
kill
10:03
off
10:03
his
10:04
character,
10:04
who
10:04
is
10:04
the
10:04
captain
10:05
of
10:05
the
10:05
119
10:06
in
10:06
hot
10:06
shots.
10:07
And
10:07
Craig,
10:08
the
10:08
guy
10:08
is
10:08
like,
10:09
you
10:10
can't
10:10
kill
10:11
him
10:11
off
10:11
because
10:11
he's
10:12
the
10:14
Captain
10:15
Banner.
10:16
Captain
10:16
Race
10:16
Banners
10:17
is
10:17
like
10:17
the
10:17
heart
10:18
of
10:18
the
10:18
fire
10:18
Famine,
10:19
the
10:19
heart
10:19
of
10:19
the
10:19
show.
10:20
And
10:20
keeps
10:21
119
10:22
fire
10:22
fam
10:22
together.
10:23
Yeah.
10:24
And.
10:24
And
10:25
ends
10:25
up,
10:26
you
10:26
know,
10:26
talking
10:27
the
10:27
guy
10:27
down
10:28
and
10:28
acknowledging
10:29
that.
10:29
And
10:29
then
10:30
his.
10:30
And
10:30
then
10:31
Brad
10:32
has
10:32
his
10:32
character
10:33
wake
10:34
up
10:34
from
10:34
a
10:34
coma
10:35
in
10:35
the
10:35
Hot
10:36
Shot
10:36
show.
10:37
Yeah.
10:37
Because
10:37
he
10:37
promised
10:38
the
10:38
guy.
10:38
He
10:38
would
10:38
if
10:38
he
10:39
came
10:39
down.
10:39
Mm.
10:41
Then
10:41
we
10:41
have
10:42
an
10:43
Holy
10:44
Mother
10:44
of
10:44
God,
10:45
a
10:45
wife
10:45
who
10:46
was
10:46
buried
10:46
alive
10:48
in
10:48
the
10:48
garden.
10:49
She
10:49
was
10:50
poisoned
10:50
first,
10:50
and
10:51
then
10:51
she,
10:51
like.
10:52
Yes,
10:53
but
10:53
she.
10:53
But
10:54
she
10:54
survives
10:54
poison
10:55
virus.
10:57
And
10:57
she
10:58
did
10:58
grab,
10:58
like,
10:59
Bobby's
10:59
leg
11:00
when
11:00
she
11:00
just,
11:01
like,
11:02
sprung
11:02
up
11:02
from
11:02
the
11:03
ground.
11:03
So
11:04
there's
11:04
that
11:05
connection
11:05
as
11:06
well.
11:07
Also
11:07
in
11:08
Holy
11:08
Mother
11:08
of
11:08
God,
11:09
we
11:09
get
11:09
introduced
11:10
to
11:11
Bobby's
11:11
mom,
11:12
who
11:12
has,
11:13
like.
11:13
Well,
11:14
she
11:14
was,
11:14
like,
11:14
kind
11:14
of
11:14
like
11:14
a
11:14
con
11:15
artist.
11:15
She
11:16
was,
11:17
you
11:17
know,
11:17
one
11:18
of
11:18
those,
11:18
like,
11:18
part
11:19
of
11:19
those,
11:19
like,
11:19
super
11:19
mega
11:20
churches
11:20
and,
11:20
like,
11:21
doing,
11:21
like,
11:21
all
11:21
this
11:21
healing
11:22
and
11:22
acting
11:22
like
11:22
she
11:23
was
11:23
actually
11:23
healing
11:23
someone.
11:24
And
11:24
like,
11:25
her
11:25
being
11:25
like
11:26
Mother
11:26
of
11:26
God
11:27
can
11:27
also
11:28
make
11:28
Bobby
11:29
Jesus,
11:30
which
11:30
we
11:30
have
11:31
said
11:33
so
11:33
many
11:33
times
11:33
on
11:34
this
11:34
podcast
11:35
since,
11:35
like,
11:35
season
11:36
one.
11:36
Just
11:37
like,
11:37
in
11:38
general,
11:38
I
11:38
think
11:38
there's
11:39
been
11:39
a
11:39
lot
11:39
of,
11:39
like,
11:40
alluding
11:40
to
11:41
Bobby
11:41
as,
11:41
like,
11:41
the
11:41
911
11:42
Jesus.
11:42
So
11:43
there's
11:44
that.
11:44
Yeah.
11:45
There's
11:45
also
11:46
the
11:47
inspired
11:48
use
11:49
of
11:49
Hozier's
11:51
work
11:51
song.
11:52
It's
11:52
gonna
11:52
ruin
11:52
this
11:53
song
11:53
for
11:53
me
11:53
in
11:54
eight.
11:54
Yeah,
11:54
I
11:55
know.
11:55
It's.
11:55
It's
11:56
such
11:56
a
11:56
beautiful
11:57
and
11:57
it's
11:57
such
11:57
a
11:57
fantastic
11:58
song.
11:58
And
11:59
now.
11:59
Oh,
11:59
that's
12:00
all
12:00
I'm
12:00
going
12:00
to
12:00
be
12:00
thinking
12:01
of.
12:01
So
12:01
thanks.
12:03
But.
12:04
But
12:04
the.
12:05
The
12:05
use
12:05
of.
12:06
Of
12:06
work
12:07
song
12:07
in
12:07
8:15,
12:08
the
12:09
lyrics
12:10
are,
12:11
no
12:11
grave
12:11
can
12:12
hold
12:12
my
12:12
body
12:13
down.
12:13
I'll
12:14
crawl
12:14
home
12:14
to
12:15
her.
12:15
Literally.
12:16
Just
12:16
like,
12:17
resurrecting
12:18
yourself
12:18
and
12:19
coming
12:19
back
12:19
to
12:19
your
12:20
love.
12:20
Yeah,
12:21
Bobby
12:21
coming
12:22
back
12:22
to
12:22
Athena.
12:23
Exactly.
12:24
Bury
12:24
me,
12:24
but,
12:24
like,
12:25
I'm
12:25
coming
12:25
home
12:26
to
12:26
her.
12:26
My
12:26
Bobby.
12:27
No
12:28
grave
12:28
can
12:28
hold
12:28
my
12:29
Bobby
12:29
down.
12:29
The
12:30
fact
12:30
that
12:30
this
12:31
song
12:31
was
12:31
playing
12:32
during
12:33
the
12:33
Bobby
12:33
and
12:33
Athena
12:34
goodbye.
12:36
Yes.
12:37
It's
12:37
very
12:37
indicative
12:38
of
12:38
that.
12:38
Yep.
12:39
Then
12:40
we
12:40
had
12:41
someone
12:41
in
12:42
the
12:42
live
12:42
stream
12:42
last
12:42
night
12:43
point
12:43
this
12:43
out
12:43
to
12:43
us
12:44
in
12:44
the
12:44
promo
12:46
from.
12:46
From
12:47
the
12:47
funeral.
12:48
Not
12:48
the
12:48
procession,
12:49
like
12:49
the
12:49
actual
12:50
funeral
12:50
service
12:51
behind.
12:52
I'm
12:53
assuming
12:53
the
12:53
fire
12:53
chief
12:54
who's
12:54
speaking.
12:55
Yeah,
12:55
it's
12:56
like
12:56
inside
12:56
the
12:56
church.
12:57
Inside
12:57
the
12:57
church
12:58
there
12:59
is
12:59
a
13:00
painting
13:00
called
13:00
the
13:01
Resurrection,
13:02
because.
13:02
What
13:02
is
13:03
it?
13:03
Oh,
13:03
the
13:04
Resurrection
13:04
of
13:05
Christ.
13:06
And
13:06
that
13:06
painting
13:07
is
13:07
also
13:08
a
13:08
pair
13:09
to
13:10
another
13:11
painting,
13:11
which
13:11
is
13:11
the
13:12
Crucifixion.
13:13
But
13:13
it's
13:14
interesting
13:14
then
13:14
that
13:15
they
13:15
have
13:15
them
13:15
in
13:15
front
13:16
of
13:16
the
13:16
Resurrection
13:17
as
13:17
opposed
13:17
to
13:17
the
13:18
crucifixion,
13:19
because
13:19
that
13:20
could
13:20
also
13:21
be
13:21
a
13:21
choice,
13:21
you
13:22
know,
13:22
and
13:22
it
13:22
would
13:22
mean
13:23
different
13:23
things.
13:24
There
13:24
are
13:25
also
13:26
a
13:26
few
13:27
Wrath
13:27
of
13:28
Khan,
13:29
Star
13:29
Trek
13:29
Wrath
13:30
of
13:30
Khan
13:30
references.
13:31
So,
13:31
of
13:32
course,
13:32
in.
13:32
In
13:33
the
13:33
episode
13:34
itself,
13:34
in
13:35
8:15,
13:35
we
13:36
have
13:37
most
13:37
notably
13:38
when
13:38
Bobby
13:39
and
13:39
Athena
13:40
are
13:40
saying
13:40
goodbye
13:40
and
13:40
they
13:41
put
13:41
their
13:41
hands,
13:41
like,
13:41
on
13:41
the
13:42
other
13:42
side
13:42
of
13:42
the
13:42
Glass
13:43
that
13:43
is
13:43
very
13:43
referential
13:44
to
13:44
the
13:45
Wrath
13:45
of
13:45
Khan,
13:45
which
13:46
is
13:46
the
13:46
movie
13:47
where
13:48
Spock.
13:49
Spoiler
13:49
alert
13:49
for
13:50
like
13:50
a
13:51
50
13:51
year
13:51
old
13:51
movie
13:53
when
13:54
Spock
13:55
dies
13:55
and
13:55
he's
13:56
on
13:56
the
13:56
other
13:56
side
13:56
of
13:56
the
13:56
glass
13:57
and
13:57
like
13:57
Spock
13:58
and
13:58
Kirk
13:58
like
13:59
put
13:59
their
13:59
hands
14:00
together
14:00
on,
14:01
on
14:01
opposite
14:01
sides
14:02
of
14:02
the
14:02
glass
14:02
because
14:02
they're,
14:03
they're
14:03
separated
14:04
from
14:04
that.
14:05
So
14:05
in
14:06
that
14:06
movie
14:06
Spock
14:06
dies,
14:07
but
14:08
in
14:08
the
14:08
next
14:08
one,
14:09
and
14:09
I
14:09
forget
14:10
the
14:10
name
14:10
of
14:10
the
14:10
next
14:10
one.
14:11
What
14:11
is
14:11
it?
14:11
Do
14:11
you
14:11
remember?
14:12
Oh,
14:13
the
14:13
search
14:13
for
14:13
Spock.
14:14
Oh,
14:14
the
14:14
search
14:15
for
14:15
spot.
14:15
So
14:15
he
14:16
comes
14:16
back
14:17
obviously.
14:18
So
14:19
that's
14:19
referenced
14:20
within
14:20
the
14:20
visual
14:21
aspect
14:22
of
14:22
the
14:22
episode
14:23
itself.
14:23
Furthermore,
14:25
there,
14:26
in
14:27
one
14:27
of
14:27
the
14:27
interviews
14:28
that
14:28
Tim
14:28
gave,
14:29
he
14:30
referenced
14:31
Wrath
14:31
of
14:31
Khan
14:32
like
14:32
he
14:32
said
14:32
he
14:32
wanted
14:33
it
14:33
to
14:33
be.
14:33
It's
14:33
a
14:34
Wrath
14:34
of
14:34
Khan
14:34
moment.
14:35
Yeah,
14:35
he
14:35
said
14:36
he
14:36
wanted
14:36
it
14:36
to
14:36
be
14:36
a
14:36
Wrath
14:37
of
14:37
Khan
14:37
moment.
14:38
Like
14:38
Bobby's
14:38
goodbye.
14:39
And
14:40
Oliver,
14:41
on
14:41
Instagram
14:42
last
14:42
night,
14:43
when,
14:43
you
14:44
know,
14:44
every.
14:44
All
14:44
of
14:45
the
14:45
cast
14:45
members
14:45
were
14:45
posting
14:46
their
14:46
pictures
14:46
and
14:46
their
14:47
goodbyes
14:47
to,
14:48
to
14:48
Peter.
14:49
Peter,
14:49
not
14:50
Bobby,
14:51
which
14:51
was
14:51
also
14:52
Peter,
14:53
not
14:53
Bobby,
14:54
but
14:54
Oliver
14:55
captioned
14:56
his
14:57
photos
14:57
with
14:58
a
14:58
dialogue
14:59
with
14:59
very
15:00
similar
15:00
dialogue.
15:01
Where
15:01
in
15:02
Wrath
15:02
of
15:02
Khan
15:03
is
15:03
it
15:03
Spock
15:03
or
15:03
Kirk?
15:04
I
15:04
think
15:04
it's
15:04
Spock.
15:04
Right.
15:05
It's
15:05
a
15:05
final
15:05
words
15:06
are
15:06
I
15:06
have
15:06
been
15:06
and
15:06
always
15:07
shall
15:07
be
15:07
your
15:07
friend.
15:08
Yeah.
15:08
So
15:09
while
15:09
gasping
15:09
for
15:09
air
15:10
before
15:10
his
15:10
death
15:11
from
15:11
radiation
15:12
poisoning.
15:12
From
15:13
radiation
15:13
poisoning.
15:14
So
15:14
that's
15:14
what
15:15
Spock
15:15
says.
15:15
And
15:15
Oliver
15:16
captioned
15:17
his
15:17
post
15:18
with,
15:18
you
15:19
have
15:19
and
15:19
always
15:19
will
15:20
be
15:20
our
15:21
leader.
15:23
Very
15:23
similarly.
15:24
And
15:25
next
15:25
we
15:25
have
15:26
a
15:26
visual
15:26
parallel
15:27
from
15:28
the
15:28
actual
15:28
episode
15:30
when
15:31
Bobby
15:31
is.
15:32
He's
15:33
getting
15:33
into
15:33
position
15:34
to
15:34
pray.
15:35
It
15:35
is
15:36
a
15:36
visual
15:36
parallel
15:37
to
15:38
the
15:39
Jesus
15:40
praying
15:40
in
15:40
the
15:40
garden
15:41
painting.
15:42
This
15:42
portrays
15:43
like
15:43
Jesus
15:43
praying
15:44
in
15:44
the
15:44
garden
15:44
right
15:44
before
15:45
he's
15:45
like
15:45
crucified.
15:46
I
15:47
mean,
15:47
there
15:47
are
15:48
other,
15:48
like
15:48
we
15:49
mentioned
15:49
before,
15:49
there
15:49
are
15:50
other
15:50
like
15:51
religious
15:51
imagery
15:52
or
15:52
like
15:53
Jesus
15:53
imagery.
15:54
Just
15:54
like
15:54
the
15:54
painting,
15:55
the
15:55
other
15:55
painting
15:55
we.
15:56
We
15:56
talked
15:57
about.
15:57
But
15:58
yeah,
15:59
right
15:59
before
16:00
he's
16:00
crucified,
16:00
so.
16:01
And
16:01
before
16:02
he's
16:03
resurrected.
16:04
I
16:04
think
16:05
it's
16:05
also
16:05
important
16:06
to
16:06
note,
16:06
like
16:06
we
16:07
learned
16:07
through
16:07
the
16:07
interviews
16:08
that
16:09
that
16:09
was
16:09
Peter
16:10
Kraus
16:11
suggestion
16:12
and
16:12
decision
16:12
to
16:13
have
16:13
Bobby
16:14
go
16:14
into
16:14
that
16:15
like,
16:15
prayerful
16:16
position.
16:17
Oh,
16:18
and
16:18
the
16:19
episode,
16:20
the
16:20
episode
16:21
aired
16:21
on
16:22
the
16:23
day
16:23
before
16:23
Good
16:23
Friday,
16:25
Good
16:25
Friday
16:25
being
16:26
the
16:26
day
16:26
that
16:27
Jesus
16:27
is
16:28
crucified
16:29
and
16:30
is
16:30
resurrected
16:31
and
16:31
then
16:31
resurrected
16:32
three
16:32
days
16:32
later.
16:32
Three
16:33
days
16:33
later.
16:34
Maybe
16:34
three
16:35
weeks
16:35
in
16:35
this
16:35
instance.
16:36
Hey,
16:37
is
16:37
it
16:37
actually
16:38
three
16:38
weeks?
16:39
It's
16:39
two.
16:40
It's
16:40
two.
16:41
Whatever.
16:41
It's.
16:41
It's
16:42
fine.
16:42
It's
16:42
fine.
16:43
Time
16:43
works
16:44
differently
16:44
in
16:44
the
16:44
911
16:45
universe.
16:45
Sure.
16:46
Then
16:46
we
16:47
have,
16:48
I
16:48
think,
16:48
the
16:48
most
16:49
egregious
16:49
thing
16:50
either
16:51
way,
16:52
which
16:52
is
16:54
the
16:54
script
16:54
leak.
16:55
Right.
16:56
We
16:57
had
16:57
this
16:57
posted
16:58
twice.
16:58
The
16:58
same
16:59
page
17:00
of
17:00
this
17:00
script
17:01
from
17:02
episode
17:02
16,
17:03
allegedly,
17:04
that
17:05
both
17:05
Oliver
17:06
and
17:07
Jennifer
17:08
Love
17:08
Hewitt
17:08
posted
17:09
to
17:09
their
17:09
stories.
17:10
Different
17:10
pictures,
17:11
but
17:11
Oliver
17:12
posted
17:12
his.
17:12
It
17:13
was
17:13
a
17:13
picture
17:13
of
17:13
him
17:13
like,
17:13
I
17:14
think
17:14
at
17:14
lunch
17:14
with
17:14
Aisha.
17:15
And
17:15
it
17:15
was
17:15
like
17:15
on
17:15
the
17:15
table,
17:16
like
17:16
underneath.
17:17
Yeah.
17:17
Like,
17:17
oh,
17:18
video.
17:18
Like
17:18
underneath.
17:20
Like
17:20
food,
17:21
tortillas,
17:21
the
17:21
plate
17:22
or
17:22
whatever.
17:22
Yeah.
17:23
He
17:23
panned
17:23
up
17:24
from
17:24
the
17:24
script
17:25
to
17:25
Aisha.
17:26
Yes.
17:26
And
17:26
JLH's.
17:27
Was
17:27
that
17:27
a
17:28
photo?
17:28
That
17:29
was
17:29
a
17:29
photo.
17:29
That
17:29
was
17:29
a
17:30
photo.
17:30
Like
17:30
a
17:30
mirror
17:31
photo?
17:31
Yeah.
17:31
Like
17:32
in
17:32
her
17:32
dressing
17:32
room
17:32
or
17:33
whatever.
17:33
With
17:34
the
17:34
script
17:34
on
17:34
the
17:35
desk.
17:35
The
17:35
same
17:35
page
17:36
and
17:36
the
17:36
same
17:37
lines
17:37
of
17:37
dialogue
17:38
can
17:38
be
17:38
read.
17:38
And
17:39
the
17:39
most
17:39
important
17:39
ones,
17:40
that
17:40
would
17:40
be
17:41
Maddie
17:41
saying,
17:42
91
17:42
1,
17:42
what's
17:42
your
17:43
emergency?
17:43
And
17:44
then
17:44
Bobby
17:45
saying,
17:45
this
17:45
is
17:46
Robert
17:46
Dash,
17:46
I'm
17:47
being
17:47
buried
17:47
alive.
17:48
And
17:48
it's
17:49
very
17:49
clear,
17:50
specifically
17:51
from
17:51
Oliver's
17:52
video.
17:53
And
17:53
it's
17:53
just
17:53
like
17:54
a
17:54
teeny
17:54
tiny
17:55
screenshot
17:55
that
17:55
people
17:56
got
17:56
because
17:56
of
17:56
course
17:57
he
17:57
deleted
17:57
it
17:58
right
17:58
afterwards.
18:00
But
18:00
if
18:00
you
18:01
like
18:01
zoom
18:01
in
18:02
on
18:02
Jennifer
18:02
Love
18:03
Hewitt's
18:04
picture,
18:05
it
18:05
looks
18:05
very
18:06
similar
18:06
in
18:06
the.
18:07
In
18:07
how
18:08
it's
18:09
laid
18:09
out
18:09
on
18:10
the
18:10
page.
18:11
Also,
18:11
just
18:12
to
18:12
note,
18:12
these
18:13
were
18:13
posted
18:13
on
18:14
April
18:14
Fool's
18:15
Day,
18:16
which
18:16
was
18:16
the.
18:16
Day
18:16
after
18:17
the
18:17
funeral
18:17
leaks,
18:18
where
18:19
they
18:19
filmed
18:19
his
18:20
funeral
18:20
procession
18:21
on
18:21
one
18:22
of
18:22
the
18:22
busiest
18:22
streets
18:22
in
18:23
LA
18:23
on
18:24
a
18:24
Sunday.
18:25
Which
18:25
seems
18:25
like
18:26
if
18:26
you
18:26
didn't
18:27
want
18:27
the
18:27
death
18:27
to
18:28
leak,
18:28
a
18:28
weird
18:29
thing
18:29
to
18:29
do.
18:30
And
18:30
I
18:31
think
18:31
one
18:31
more
18:31
thing
18:31
to
18:32
note,
18:32
we
18:32
kind
18:32
of
18:33
mentioned
18:33
it
18:33
within
18:33
8:15
18:34
the
18:34
episode.
18:35
We
18:35
didn't.
18:36
Well,
18:36
one,
18:37
we
18:37
didn't
18:37
see
18:38
Bobby
18:38
actually
18:39
die.
18:39
I
18:40
think
18:40
that's
18:40
a
18:40
creative
18:40
choice.
18:42
But,
18:43
but
18:43
not
18:43
only
18:43
that,
18:44
but
18:44
we
18:44
didn't
18:45
see
18:45
a
18:46
body,
18:46
a
18:46
dead
18:47
body.
18:48
We
18:48
only
18:48
saw
18:49
the
18:49
Bobby
18:50
bag,
18:51
if
18:51
you
18:51
will.
18:52
We
18:52
only
18:53
saw
18:53
them
18:54
carting
18:54
out
18:55
the
18:56
body
18:56
bag.
18:57
Not
18:58
a
18:58
look
18:59
at
18:59
Bobby.
19:00
And
19:00
assuming
19:01
Bobby's
19:01
inside
19:02
it,
19:02
not
19:03
a
19:03
look
19:03
at
19:03
them,
19:04
you
19:04
know,
19:05
double
19:05
checking
19:06
for
19:06
time
19:06
of
19:06
death,
19:07
which
19:07
I'm
19:07
not
19:07
sure
19:07
they
19:07
could
19:08
have
19:08
because
19:08
everybody
19:09
was
19:09
in,
19:09
you
19:09
know,
19:10
the,
19:10
the
19:10
protective
19:11
hazmat
19:12
gears
19:13
and
19:13
everything
19:13
like
19:13
that,
19:14
including
19:14
Bobby.
19:15
So
19:15
like.
19:15
And
19:16
it's
19:16
just
19:16
like
19:16
a
19:17
very
19:17
classic
19:18
movie
19:19
TV
19:20
sort
19:20
of
19:20
thing.
19:21
If
19:21
you
19:21
don't
19:21
see
19:22
a
19:22
body,
19:23
they're
19:24
not
19:24
dead
19:25
because
19:25
it's
19:26
one
19:26
of
19:26
those
19:27
show
19:27
don't
19:27
tell
19:28
things.
19:28
If
19:29
you
19:29
don't
19:29
see
19:29
it
19:29
with
19:30
your
19:30
own
19:30
eyes,
19:31
there's
19:31
always
19:31
going
19:31
to
19:32
be
19:32
a
19:32
little
19:32
room
19:32
for
19:32
doubt.
19:33
Yep.
19:34
So
19:34
this
19:34
leads
19:34
us
19:35
to
19:36
what
19:36
could
19:37
and
19:37
should
19:38
be
19:38
happening,
19:39
which
19:40
is
19:40
that
19:40
chimney
19:41
is
19:42
having
19:42
a
19:42
coma
19:43
dream.
19:43
And
19:44
why
19:44
do
19:44
we
19:44
think
19:45
this,
19:45
you
19:45
ask?
19:45
Well,
19:46
because
19:47
there
19:47
was
19:47
a
19:48
white
19:48
flash
19:48
as
19:48
soon
19:48
as
19:48
they
19:49
gave
19:49
him
19:49
that
19:49
antiviral.
19:50
And
19:51
where
19:51
did
19:51
we
19:51
see
19:52
a
19:52
white
19:52
flash
19:52
like
19:53
that
19:53
before?
19:53
Oh,
19:53
oh,
19:54
oh.
19:55
When
19:56
Buck
19:56
was
19:56
in
19:56
a
19:57
coma.
19:57
And
19:58
not
19:58
only
19:58
when
19:58
Buck
19:58
was
19:58
in
19:59
a
19:59
coma,
19:59
that
20:00
it
20:00
flashes
20:01
when
20:01
he
20:01
wakes
20:01
up
20:02
inside
20:02
his
20:03
coma.
20:03
Yeah.
20:04
So
20:04
they've
20:05
already
20:05
established
20:05
that
20:05
visual
20:06
language
20:06
within
20:07
the
20:07
series.
20:07
We
20:08
also
20:08
have
20:09
Ray
20:09
Spanner
20:10
from
20:10
Hotshots
20:11
waking
20:11
up
20:11
from
20:12
a
20:12
coma
20:13
and
20:13
then,
20:13
like,
20:13
having
20:14
the
20:15
chimney
20:16
as
20:16
the
20:17
doctor
20:17
saying,
20:17
it's
20:18
a
20:18
miracle.
20:20
Oh,
20:20
look,
20:21
a
20:21
miracle
20:21
for
20:21
Jesus
20:22
character.
20:22
Like,
20:23
one
20:24
of
20:24
the
20:24
reasons
20:24
that
20:24
we
20:25
think
20:25
it
20:25
could
20:25
be
20:25
a
20:26
chimney
20:26
coma
20:26
dream
20:27
is
20:27
for
20:27
him
20:28
to
20:28
kind
20:28
of
20:28
like,
20:28
work
20:29
through
20:29
his
20:30
anxieties
20:30
of
20:31
becoming
20:31
a
20:31
father
20:31
again.
20:32
So
20:32
specifically
20:33
a
20:33
father
20:33
to
20:34
a
20:34
son
20:35
because
20:36
of
20:36
his
20:36
relationship
20:37
with
20:37
his
20:38
own
20:38
father.
20:39
And
20:39
it.
20:40
This
20:40
was
20:41
kind
20:41
of
20:41
foreshadowed
20:42
with
20:42
his
20:42
conversation
20:43
with
20:43
Bobby
20:44
when
20:44
he
20:44
was
20:44
asking
20:45
Bobby
20:45
about,
20:46
you
20:46
know,
20:46
having.
20:47
Having
20:47
a
20:47
son
20:48
and.
20:48
And
20:48
how
20:48
that's
20:49
different
20:49
than
20:49
having
20:49
a
20:50
daughter
20:50
and
20:50
all
20:50
that
20:51
stuff.
20:51
Yeah.
20:52
So
20:52
it's
20:52
weighing
20:52
on
20:52
his
20:53
mind.
20:54
And
20:54
last
20:55
but
20:55
certainly
20:56
not
20:57
least
20:57
are
20:57
the
20:58
bajillion
20:59
wizard
21:00
of
21:00
Oz
21:00
references
21:01
this
21:01
season.
21:02
The
21:02
entire
21:02
season
21:03
since
21:03
the
21:03
beginning.
21:04
Yeah.
21:05
Why.
21:06
Why
21:06
so
21:06
many
21:07
wizard
21:07
of
21:07
Oz
21:07
references?
21:08
Enough,
21:10
if
21:10
not
21:11
dream.
21:12
Because
21:12
that's
21:12
what
21:12
the
21:12
wizard
21:13
of
21:13
Oz
21:13
is.
21:13
It's
21:13
based
21:14
on
21:14
a
21:14
dream,
21:16
a
21:16
realistic
21:17
dream.
21:17
And
21:17
you
21:17
were
21:17
there,
21:18
and
21:18
you
21:18
were.
21:18
There,
21:18
you
21:18
were
21:19
there.
21:19
And
21:19
they
21:20
even.
21:20
They
21:20
even
21:21
said
21:21
in
21:21
the
21:21
previous
21:22
episode
21:22
in
21:22
8:14,
21:23
that
21:23
they
21:24
were.
21:24
Athena
21:25
said
21:25
they're.
21:25
They're
21:25
building
21:26
the
21:26
yellow
21:26
brick
21:26
road,
21:27
like
21:27
into
21:27
the
21:28
lab
21:28
facility.
21:29
Huh.
21:30
And
21:30
I
21:31
think
21:31
we
21:31
just
21:31
want
21:31
to
21:32
mention
21:32
in
21:33
our
21:33
denial
21:35
phase
21:35
that
21:36
there
21:36
is
21:37
precedence
21:38
for
21:39
killing
21:39
off
21:40
a
21:41
character
21:42
or
21:43
faking
21:43
out
21:43
killing
21:43
off
21:44
a
21:44
character
21:45
and
21:45
specifically
21:46
having
21:47
the
21:47
actor
21:48
or
21:48
the
21:48
actors,
21:49
the.
21:49
The
21:49
press
21:50
and
21:50
everything
21:50
really
21:51
reflect
21:52
and
21:53
indicate
21:53
that
21:54
it
21:54
is
21:54
a
21:54
real
21:54
death,
21:55
only
21:55
for
21:56
it
21:56
to
21:56
not
21:57
be.
21:57
So.
21:58
So
21:58
we
21:59
just
21:59
have
21:59
a
21:59
couple
21:59
quick
22:00
examples,
22:01
I
22:01
guess,
22:02
spoilers
22:03
for.
22:03
For
22:03
these.
22:04
If
22:04
you
22:05
haven't
22:05
seen
22:05
Jane
22:05
the
22:05
Virgin
22:06
from
22:06
a
22:07
number
22:07
of
22:07
years
22:07
ago,
22:08
the
22:08
character
22:08
of
22:08
Michael
22:09
was
22:10
dying
22:11
and.
22:11
And
22:11
he
22:11
died.
22:12
They
22:12
killed
22:13
him
22:13
off,
22:13
essentially.
22:14
And
22:15
the
22:16
actor
22:16
was
22:16
giving
22:17
exit
22:18
interviews.
22:18
He
22:18
wrote
22:19
a
22:19
letter
22:19
to
22:19
the
22:20
fans.
22:21
Everybody
22:21
was,
22:22
like,
22:22
very
22:23
reactionary.
22:24
And
22:24
it
22:24
turned
22:25
out
22:25
that.
22:25
That
22:26
they
22:26
brought
22:26
him
22:27
back.
22:27
They
22:27
brought
22:28
him
22:28
back
22:28
alive.
22:29
Jane
22:29
the
22:29
Virgin
22:30
is
22:30
of
22:30
course,
22:31
modeled
22:31
very
22:32
much
22:32
after,
22:32
like,
22:32
telenovelas.
22:34
So
22:34
it's
22:34
a
22:34
very
22:35
dramatic
22:35
thing.
22:35
But
22:35
they.
22:36
So
22:36
is
22:37
91
22:37
1.
22:37
We
22:38
have
22:38
fudgeing
22:39
doppelganger
22:39
storyline.
22:40
I
22:40
know
22:40
that's
22:40
not
22:41
a
22:41
telenovela.
22:42
I
22:42
don't
22:42
know
22:42
what
22:42
is.
22:43
Exactly.
22:43
So.
22:44
So
22:44
just
22:45
like
22:45
that,
22:46
that
22:46
PR
22:47
press
22:48
leaning
22:48
into
22:49
all
22:49
of
22:49
that
22:49
stuff,
22:49
like,
22:50
like
22:50
the
22:50
letter
22:50
to
22:50
the
22:50
fans.
22:51
Because
22:51
Peter
22:52
Krausa
22:52
just
22:53
released
22:54
a
22:54
statement
22:54
as
22:54
a
22:55
letter
22:55
to
22:55
the
22:55
fans
22:55
as
22:56
well.
22:56
Like,
22:56
this
22:57
has
22:57
been
22:57
done
22:57
before.
22:58
And
22:58
then
22:58
we've
22:58
also
22:59
seen
22:59
this
22:59
again
22:59
with
23:00
the
23:00
Walking
23:01
Dead.
23:02
They.
23:03
They
23:03
faked
23:03
out
23:04
Glenn's
23:04
death
23:05
before,
23:06
like
23:06
actual
23:07
one.
23:07
And
23:08
Jon
23:08
of
23:08
Jon
23:09
Snow
23:09
and
23:10
Game
23:10
of
23:10
Thrones.
23:11
People
23:12
kill
23:12
characters
23:12
off
23:13
all
23:13
the
23:13
time
23:13
and
23:13
have
23:14
them
23:14
be
23:14
fake
23:14
outs.
23:15
And
23:16
the.
23:16
The
23:16
press,
23:17
which
23:17
isn't
23:18
necessarily
23:18
showrunning,
23:19
but
23:19
does
23:20
reflect
23:21
that.
23:21
And
23:21
then,
23:22
surprise,
23:22
they
23:22
bring
23:22
them
23:22
back.
23:23
It's
23:23
been
23:23
done.
23:25
Okay,
23:26
welcome
23:26
to
23:26
our
23:27
rage
23:27
room.
23:28
It's
23:28
time
23:28
to
23:29
talk
23:29
about
23:29
the
23:30
stage
23:30
of
23:30
anger.
23:32
I'm
23:32
very
23:32
much
23:32
living
23:33
here.
23:33
I
23:33
woke
23:33
up
23:33
angry,
23:34
which
23:34
is
23:34
not
23:35
a
23:35
feeling
23:36
that
23:36
I
23:36
like
23:36
to
23:36
have
23:36
after
23:37
watching
23:37
one
23:37
of
23:37
my
23:38
favorite
23:38
things.
23:39
Does
23:39
anybody?
23:40
No,
23:40
no.
23:41
So
23:41
I
23:41
guess
23:42
where
23:42
I
23:42
want
23:43
to
23:43
start
23:43
is
23:43
to
23:44
say,
23:45
if
23:45
the
23:45
plan
23:45
was
23:46
to
23:46
kill
23:46
Bobby,
23:47
why
23:48
did
23:48
we
23:48
waste
23:48
time
23:49
on.
23:50
So
23:50
much
23:50
time
23:50
on
23:51
Hotshots
23:51
at
23:51
the
23:51
beginning
23:51
of
23:51
the
23:52
season?
23:52
And
23:53
Bobby
23:53
being
23:53
apart
23:53
from
23:53
the
23:54
118,
23:54
when
23:55
we
23:55
could
23:55
have
23:55
had
23:55
more
23:55
storylines
23:56
of
23:57
them
23:57
all
23:57
together,
23:57
of
23:58
them
23:58
getting
23:58
closer,
24:00
more
24:01
emotionally
24:01
impactful
24:02
things
24:03
so
24:03
that
24:03
when
24:03
this
24:04
finally
24:04
happened,
24:04
not
24:05
only
24:05
do
24:05
we
24:05
have
24:05
a
24:05
lot
24:06
more
24:06
new
24:06
memories
24:07
to
24:08
hold
24:08
on
24:08
to,
24:09
but
24:10
also
24:10
it's
24:10
more
24:11
emotionally
24:11
impactful.
24:12
Cause
24:13
it's
24:13
more
24:13
of
24:13
a
24:14
gut
24:14
punch.
24:15
Also.
24:18
Why.
24:18
Why
24:19
weren't
24:19
there.
24:19
Why,
24:20
why.
24:21
Why
24:21
wasn't
24:21
there
24:22
more
24:22
meat
24:22
given
24:23
to
24:23
the
24:23
reactions?
24:25
Like
24:25
when
24:25
Bobby
24:26
dies?
24:26
These
24:27
are
24:27
incredible
24:28
actors.
24:29
Why
24:29
were
24:30
we
24:30
not
24:30
given
24:30
more
24:31
time
24:31
with
24:31
it?
24:31
Why
24:31
was
24:32
there
24:32
only
24:32
five
24:33
minutes
24:33
for
24:34
us
24:34
and
24:34
for
24:34
them
24:35
to,
24:36
like,
24:36
perform
24:37
and
24:37
deliver
24:37
this,
24:38
like,
24:38
very
24:38
heavy,
24:39
one
24:39
of
24:39
the
24:40
biggest
24:40
thing
24:40
they've
24:41
ever
24:41
fucking
24:41
done
24:41
on
24:41
the
24:41
show?
24:41
Because
24:42
they've
24:42
never
24:42
done
24:42
a
24:42
major
24:43
character
24:43
death.
24:44
Why
24:44
was
24:44
there
24:44
only
24:45
five
24:45
minutes?
24:46
Why
24:46
wasn't
24:46
there
24:47
more
24:47
for
24:48
them
24:48
to.
24:48
To.
24:49
To
24:49
dig
24:49
into,
24:50
like,
24:51
as
24:51
the
24:51
actors
24:52
that
24:52
we
24:52
know
24:52
they
24:52
are?
24:52
Like,
24:53
yes,
24:53
then
24:53
I
24:53
had
24:53
a
24:54
good
24:54
amount,
24:54
but
24:54
like,
24:55
everyone
24:55
else
24:55
just
24:56
got
24:56
like
24:56
a
24:56
moment
24:56
of
24:57
anguish.
24:57
Some
24:58
people
24:58
got
24:58
nothing.
24:59
Which
25:00
we'll
25:00
talk
25:00
about
25:00
last.
25:01
I
25:01
just
25:01
don't
25:02
know.
25:02
I
25:02
just
25:02
feel
25:03
like
25:03
I
25:04
should
25:04
have
25:04
been
25:04
bawling
25:05
my
25:05
fucking
25:05
eyes
25:06
out.
25:06
And
25:06
I
25:06
was
25:06
not.
25:07
I
25:07
was.
25:08
I
25:08
know
25:08
you
25:09
were.
25:09
But
25:09
you
25:09
cry
25:10
so
25:10
easily.
25:11
So
25:11
that's
25:11
not
25:12
saying
25:12
any.
25:12
That's
25:12
not.
25:13
I'm
25:13
sorry.
25:14
That's
25:14
not
25:14
giving
25:14
them
25:15
flowers.
25:16
No,
25:16
no,
25:17
listen,
25:18
I
25:18
feel
25:18
like
25:19
I
25:19
would
25:19
say
25:19
I
25:19
am
25:20
someone
25:20
who
25:20
cries
25:20
easily.
25:21
Like,
25:21
if
25:21
I.
25:22
If
25:22
I
25:23
felt
25:23
the.
25:24
The
25:24
emotional
25:24
impact,
25:25
yeah,
25:26
I
25:26
would
25:26
have
25:26
been
25:26
crying,
25:27
but
25:27
I
25:27
feel
25:27
cheated
25:28
out.
25:29
1.
25:29
Because
25:29
the
25:30
leaks,
25:30
too.
25:30
Because,
25:31
like,
25:31
I
25:31
just
25:31
don't
25:32
think
25:33
it
25:33
makes
25:33
sense.
25:34
It
25:35
just
25:35
doesn't
25:35
make
25:36
sense.
25:36
And
25:37
I've
25:37
cried
25:38
over
25:38
character
25:39
deaths
25:39
and,
25:39
I
25:39
mean,
25:39
I
25:40
know
25:40
we're
25:40
going
25:40
to
25:40
get
25:40
into
25:41
two
25:41
specific
25:42
ones.
25:43
Well,
25:43
one
25:43
of
25:43
them
25:44
I
25:44
didn't
25:44
cry
25:44
for,
25:45
but,
25:46
like,
25:47
this
25:47
just
25:47
did
25:47
it.
25:48
I
25:48
didn't.
25:48
There
25:48
was
25:49
no
25:49
emotional
25:50
impact.
25:51
No.
25:51
I
25:51
mean,
25:51
there
25:52
was.
25:52
There
25:52
is.
25:53
Based
25:53
on,
25:53
like,
25:54
what
25:54
they've.
25:54
They
25:55
were
25:55
acting
25:55
out
25:56
in
25:56
that
25:56
final
25:57
scene
25:57
with
25:57
Athena,
25:58
between
25:58
Athena
25:58
and
25:58
Bobby.
25:59
But
25:59
I
26:00
just
26:00
feel
26:00
cheated
26:00
out.
26:01
Yeah.
26:01
Because
26:02
of
26:02
everything
26:03
leading
26:03
up
26:04
to
26:04
this.
26:05
I'm
26:05
so
26:05
sorry,
26:06
Tim.
26:06
I'm
26:07
not
26:07
sorry.
26:07
Actually,
26:08
you
26:08
should
26:08
be
26:08
sorry
26:09
because
26:09
your
26:10
reasoning
26:10
that
26:10
you
26:10
gave
26:11
in
26:11
all
26:11
of
26:11
these
26:11
interviews
26:12
was
26:12
it's
26:12
a
26:13
show
26:13
about
26:13
first
26:13
responders,
26:14
and
26:14
I
26:14
put
26:15
them
26:15
through
26:15
all
26:15
this
26:15
stuff,
26:16
and
26:16
it's
26:16
just
26:16
unrealistic
26:17
that
26:17
they
26:18
always
26:18
come
26:18
out.
26:18
Okay.
26:19
First
26:19
of
26:20
all,
26:20
it's
26:20
really
26:21
eight
26:21
and
26:21
just.
26:22
Now
26:22
you
26:22
care
26:22
about
26:22
this.
26:23
Second
26:23
of
26:23
all,
26:24
since
26:24
when
26:24
have
26:24
you
26:24
cared
26:25
about
26:25
realism
26:25
on
26:25
this
26:26
show?
26:26
Literally
26:27
ever.
26:27
Literally
26:28
ever.
26:29
Rebar
26:30
through
26:30
the
26:30
fucking
26:31
head.
26:31
In
26:32
episode
26:32
three,
26:33
crushed
26:33
by
26:33
a
26:33
fire
26:34
engine.
26:34
Not
26:35
an
26:35
amputee
26:35
survived
26:36
and
26:36
not
26:36
an
26:36
amputee.
26:37
Tsunami.
26:38
A
26:39
child
26:39
in
26:39
the.
26:39
In
26:40
the
26:40
tsunami.
26:40
Yes.
26:41
Struck
26:41
by
26:41
lightning,
26:42
died
26:43
for
26:43
three
26:43
minutes.
26:43
Came
26:44
back,
26:44
died
26:44
for
26:44
14
26:45
minutes.
26:46
Last
26:46
season.
26:47
Yeah.
26:48
No
26:48
brain
26:48
damage.
26:50
The
26:50
throat.
26:51
Maddie's
26:51
throat.
26:51
This
26:52
season,
26:52
which
26:52
in
26:53
just
26:53
a
26:53
couple
26:53
episodes,
26:54
every
26:54
medical
26:54
professional
26:55
has
26:55
been
26:55
like,
26:55
you
26:55
just
26:55
can't
26:56
survive
26:56
that
26:56
period.
26:57
Like,
26:57
unless
26:57
you
26:58
were
26:58
literally
26:58
in
26:58
a
26:59
hospital
26:59
and
26:59
it
27:00
was
27:00
a
27:00
very,
27:00
very
27:00
shallow
27:01
slice.
27:02
And
27:02
I'm
27:02
even
27:03
talking
27:03
about
27:03
death.
27:03
There's
27:04
just,
27:04
like,
27:04
not
27:04
realism
27:05
in
27:05
the
27:05
show.
27:05
And
27:06
I
27:06
love
27:06
that.
27:06
It's
27:07
one
27:07
of
27:07
the
27:07
reasons
27:07
I
27:07
love
27:07
this.
27:08
I
27:08
love
27:08
the
27:08
camp.
27:09
I
27:09
love
27:09
that,
27:10
like,
27:10
there
27:10
are
27:10
emotional
27:11
stakes,
27:11
but,
27:12
like,
27:12
it's
27:12
also
27:13
silly,
27:13
goofy
27:14
fun.
27:14
We
27:14
don't
27:15
watch
27:15
it
27:15
for
27:15
the
27:15
realism.
27:16
Who
27:16
the
27:17
fuck
27:17
here
27:18
cares
27:18
about
27:18
realism?
27:19
It
27:19
sure
27:20
hasn't
27:20
been
27:20
any
27:20
of
27:21
the
27:21
many,
27:21
many
27:22
people
27:22
who
27:22
watch
27:22
this
27:23
show.
27:23
That's
27:24
not
27:24
why
27:24
we're
27:24
here.
27:24
If
27:24
we
27:24
wanted
27:25
realism,
27:25
we
27:25
would
27:26
watch
27:26
the
27:26
news.
27:27
Yeah.
27:28
And
27:28
I
27:29
don't
27:29
want
27:29
to
27:29
watch
27:29
that
27:29
either.
27:30
Nope.
27:30
No.
27:31
I
27:31
want
27:32
fun.
27:32
Escapism,
27:34
comfort.
27:34
Characters
27:35
going
27:36
through
27:36
the
27:36
horrors,
27:37
but
27:37
coming
27:37
out
27:37
the
27:37
other
27:38
side.
27:38
Exactly.
27:39
Yeah.
27:40
Realism.
27:41
Be
27:42
so
27:42
fucking
27:42
for
27:43
real
27:43
right
27:43
now,
27:43
Tim.
27:44
Realism.
27:45
We
27:45
start.
27:45
What
27:46
do
27:46
we
27:46
start
27:46
out
27:46
this
27:46
season
27:46
with?
27:47
A
27:47
bean
27:48
8o
27:49
and
27:49
then
27:49
a
27:49
fucking.
27:50
Middle
27:50
schooler
27:52
landing
27:53
a
27:53
damaged
27:53
aircraft.
27:54
The
27:55
highway.
27:55
On
27:55
an
27:56
la.
27:56
Highway.
27:57
Okay,
27:58
okay.
27:58
Sure,
27:59
sure,
28:00
sure.
28:01
And
28:01
there
28:01
are
28:01
more
28:02
unbelievable
28:03
things
28:03
than
28:03
that
28:04
in
28:04
this
28:04
show.
28:05
So
28:05
it's
28:05
like,
28:05
you
28:06
know,
28:06
it's
28:06
fine.
28:07
Why
28:07
Is
28:07
it
28:07
this?
28:08
I'm
28:08
willing
28:08
to
28:09
suspend
28:09
my
28:09
disbelief
28:10
for,
28:10
like,
28:10
pretty
28:11
much
28:11
everything.
28:12
So,
28:12
like.
28:12
And
28:12
obviously
28:13
the
28:13
audience
28:13
is
28:14
too.
28:14
This
28:14
is
28:15
the
28:15
highest
28:15
performing
28:16
network
28:17
television
28:17
show.
28:18
Yeah.
28:18
And
28:18
it's
28:18
the
28:18
eighth
28:19
season.
28:19
You
28:19
just
28:19
got
28:19
renewed
28:19
for
28:20
a
28:20
ninth.
28:20
Who
28:20
do
28:21
you
28:21
think
28:21
cares
28:21
about
28:22
that?
28:22
Anyway,
28:24
moving
28:24
on,
28:25
because
28:25
I
28:25
feel
28:25
like
28:26
we
28:26
could
28:26
be
28:26
there
28:26
for
28:26
a
28:26
while.
28:27
Yes.
28:28
I
28:28
keep
28:28
coming
28:28
up
28:28
with,
28:29
like,
28:29
more.
28:29
Yeah.
28:30
More
28:30
kind
28:30
of
28:30
reasons.
28:31
That's
28:31
an
28:31
insane
28:32
reason.
28:32
That's
28:32
a
28:32
stupid
28:33
reason.
28:33
I'm
28:33
sorry.
28:34
That's
28:34
really
28:34
stupid.
28:35
That's
28:35
a
28:35
cop
28:36
out
28:36
reason
28:36
to
28:36
me.
28:36
It
28:37
is.
28:37
Yeah.
28:38
That's
28:38
a.
28:38
That's
28:39
a.
28:39
It's
28:40
not
28:40
a.
28:40
Oh.
28:40
Because
28:41
I
28:41
felt
28:41
like
28:41
it
28:41
was
28:41
the
28:42
right
28:42
thing
28:42
to
28:42
do
28:42
for
28:42
the
28:42
character.
28:43
Realism.
28:44
No
28:45
realism
28:45
as
28:46
a
28:46
creative
28:46
choice,
28:47
though.
28:47
Okay.
28:49
So
28:49
I
28:49
kind
28:49
of
28:49
want
28:50
to
28:50
talk
28:50
about,
28:50
like,
28:50
what
28:51
feels
28:51
like
28:52
what
28:52
could
28:52
be
28:53
a
28:53
slap
28:53
in
28:53
the
28:53
face
28:54
with
28:54
like,
28:55
the
28:55
Brad
28:55
Torrance
28:55
of
28:56
it
28:56
all
28:56
and,
28:56
like,
28:57
talking
28:57
down
28:58
the
28:58
guy
28:58
from,
28:58
like,
28:59
the
28:59
literal
29:00
edge,
29:00
you
29:01
know,
29:01
and
29:01
saying
29:01
that
29:02
where.
29:02
Where
29:03
the
29:03
guy
29:03
was
29:03
like,
29:03
oh,
29:04
you
29:04
can't
29:04
kill
29:04
off
29:05
the
29:05
captain
29:05
because
29:05
he's
29:05
the
29:06
heart
29:06
of
29:06
the
29:06
show.
29:07
And.
29:08
And,
29:08
you
29:08
know,
29:08
like,
29:08
Brad
29:09
was
29:09
basically.
29:10
Was
29:10
like,
29:10
no,
29:11
he's
29:11
okay,
29:11
fine.
29:11
He's.
29:12
He's
29:12
going
29:12
to
29:12
live,
29:13
basically,
29:13
and
29:13
all
29:13
of
29:14
that.
29:14
And
29:15
it's
29:15
kind
29:15
of
29:15
like.
29:16
I
29:16
don't
29:16
know,
29:17
because,
29:17
like,
29:17
I
29:17
feel
29:18
like
29:18
the.
29:19
I
29:19
guess.
29:19
Yeah.
29:19
His
29:20
name
29:20
is
29:20
Craig.
29:20
Sorry.
29:21
I
29:22
feel
29:22
like
29:22
that
29:22
was
29:23
kind
29:23
of
29:23
like,
29:24
like
29:24
us.
29:25
Like
29:25
us
29:25
as.
29:25
As
29:26
an
29:26
audience.
29:26
Like,
29:26
this
29:26
is
29:27
how
29:27
we
29:27
feel
29:27
about
29:28
Bobby.
29:28
Right.
29:29
Like,
29:29
he
29:29
is
29:29
the
29:30
heart
29:30
of
29:30
the
29:30
show.
29:30
He
29:30
is
29:31
the.
29:32
The
29:32
person
29:32
that
29:33
keeps
29:33
the.
29:33
The
29:33
fire.
29:34
The
29:34
fire
29:35
fam.
29:35
Together.
29:35
The
29:36
118
29:36
together.
29:37
So,
29:37
like,
29:38
what
29:38
kind
29:38
of
29:38
message
29:38
are
29:39
we
29:39
sending?
29:39
Because,
29:40
like,
29:40
at
29:40
the
29:40
literal
29:40
end
29:41
of
29:41
that
29:41
episode
29:42
of
29:43
808,
29:43
they
29:44
have,
29:44
like,
29:45
hotline
29:45
PSA,
29:46
like,
29:47
what.
29:47
What
29:47
are
29:48
we
29:48
doing
29:48
here?
29:50
It.
29:50
It
29:50
feels.
29:51
It
29:51
feels
29:52
icky.
29:52
It
29:52
feels.
29:53
I'm
29:53
gonna
29:53
bring
29:54
in
29:54
Supernatural.
29:55
Oh,
29:55
we're.
29:56
Multiple
29:56
times.
29:56
We're
29:56
going
29:57
to.
29:57
Yeah.
29:57
I
29:58
mean,
29:58
Supernatural
29:58
has.
29:59
Has
29:59
done
29:59
the
29:59
thing
29:59
where
30:00
they've
30:00
done
30:00
meta
30:00
episodes
30:01
and
30:01
they've
30:01
done
30:01
one
30:02
where
30:02
it
30:02
was
30:02
like
30:02
a
30:02
Supernatural
30:03
convention.
30:03
And
30:04
like,
30:04
it
30:04
feels
30:04
like
30:05
they
30:05
were
30:05
taking
30:05
the.
30:06
The
30:06
piss
30:06
out
30:06
of,
30:07
like.
30:07
Oh,
30:07
yeah.
30:08
Of
30:08
their
30:09
fans
30:09
in
30:09
that
30:09
episode.
30:10
I
30:10
think
30:10
it
30:10
was
30:10
like
30:10
season
30:10
five.
30:11
It
30:11
was
30:11
season
30:12
four.
30:12
Season
30:13
four
30:14
at
30:14
the
30:14
end
30:14
of
30:14
this
30:14
book.
30:15
So
30:15
now,
30:16
like,
30:16
with
30:16
the
30:16
suicide
30:16
hotline
30:17
and
30:17
Craig
30:17
being
30:18
like
30:18
an
30:18
embodiment
30:19
of,
30:19
like,
30:20
the
30:20
audience,
30:20
like,
30:21
it's
30:21
kind
30:21
of
30:21
like
30:22
I
30:22
feel
30:23
like
30:23
we're
30:23
being
30:23
mocked
30:24
a
30:24
little
30:24
bit.
30:24
And
30:24
if
30:24
you
30:25
actually
30:25
kill.
30:26
If
30:26
Bobby's
30:27
actually
30:27
Dead.
30:28
What
30:29
message
30:29
are
30:29
we
30:29
sending
30:30
here,
30:30
Tim?
30:30
What.
30:30
What
30:30
are
30:30
we
30:31
doing
30:31
here?
30:31
Yeah,
30:32
I
30:32
think
30:32
I
30:32
know
30:33
Tim
30:33
said.
30:33
Has.
30:34
Has
30:34
said
30:34
in
30:35
some
30:35
of
30:35
these
30:35
interviews
30:36
that,
30:36
like,
30:37
he.
30:37
He
30:37
was
30:37
using
30:38
this
30:39
scene
30:39
as
30:39
a
30:40
bit
30:40
of
30:40
a
30:40
nod
30:40
to,
30:41
like,
30:41
what
30:41
he.
30:42
What
30:42
he
30:42
was
30:42
thinking,
30:43
you
30:43
know,
30:44
of
30:44
doing
30:44
down
30:45
the
30:45
line.
30:45
And
30:46
to
30:46
that
30:46
I
30:46
say,
30:47
well,
30:47
if
30:47
you
30:48
acknowledge
30:49
it
30:49
explicitly
30:50
like
30:50
that
30:50
in
30:50
the
30:51
show,
30:51
you
30:52
are
30:52
aware
30:53
because
30:53
how.
30:54
The
30:54
audience
30:54
would
30:54
react,
30:55
because
30:55
it's
30:55
a.
30:56
Meta
30:56
analysis,
30:57
you
30:57
are
30:57
aware
30:58
of
30:58
how
30:58
the
30:58
audience
30:59
feels
30:59
about
31:00
these
31:00
characters,
31:01
specifically,
31:01
like
31:02
the
31:02
Bobby
31:02
character
31:03
and
31:03
how
31:03
they
31:04
would
31:04
react
31:05
if
31:05
he
31:06
was
31:06
to
31:06
be
31:06
actually
31:07
killed
31:07
off.
31:08
And
31:08
then
31:08
to
31:09
have.
31:10
Within
31:10
the
31:11
framework
31:11
of
31:11
the
31:12
show
31:12
and
31:12
the
31:13
show,
31:13
in
31:13
the
31:13
show,
31:13
Hotshots,
31:14
to
31:15
have
31:15
Brad
31:16
decide,
31:17
okay,
31:18
we're
31:18
not
31:18
going
31:18
to
31:18
kill
31:18
him
31:18
off,
31:19
we're
31:19
going
31:19
to
31:19
bring
31:20
him
31:20
back.
31:20
So
31:21
then
31:21
there's
31:21
like,
31:21
that
31:22
little
31:22
bit
31:22
of
31:22
hope
31:22
there
31:23
that
31:23
he
31:23
gives
31:24
to
31:24
Craig
31:24
and
31:25
that
31:25
the
31:26
rest,
31:26
I
31:26
guess,
31:26
of
31:26
the
31:26
Hotshots
31:27
audience
31:28
would
31:28
have
31:28
as
31:28
well.
31:29
To
31:29
then
31:30
completely
31:31
contradict
31:32
what
31:32
you've
31:33
already
31:33
established
31:34
that
31:34
you
31:34
are
31:35
completely
31:35
aware
31:36
of
31:36
in
31:37
reality
31:38
by
31:38
having
31:39
Bobby
31:39
die
31:39
for
31:40
real.
31:40
That's
31:41
just
31:41
really
31:42
disingenuous.
31:43
That
31:43
reeks
31:44
of
31:44
disingenuousness
31:45
to
31:46
me
31:46
because
31:46
it's
31:47
like,
31:47
it's
31:47
you
31:47
saying,
31:48
okay,
31:49
I.
31:49
I
31:49
know
31:50
how
31:50
you
31:50
feel,
31:51
but
31:51
also,
31:52
I
31:52
don't
31:52
really
31:53
care
31:53
because
31:53
I'm
31:54
gonna
31:54
do
31:54
what
31:54
I
31:54
want
31:55
anyways.
31:56
And
31:57
that's
31:57
icky.
31:58
There's
31:58
difference
31:59
between,
31:59
like,
32:00
what
32:00
would
32:00
normally
32:00
be,
32:00
like,
32:01
you
32:01
don't
32:01
have
32:02
to.
32:02
You.
32:02
You
32:02
don't
32:03
have
32:03
to.
32:03
And
32:03
you
32:03
shouldn't
32:04
only
32:04
write
32:04
things
32:05
for
32:05
fan
32:05
service,
32:05
only
32:06
write
32:06
things
32:06
because
32:06
of
32:06
what
32:07
the
32:07
fans
32:07
would
32:07
want.
32:07
But
32:08
when
32:08
it
32:08
comes
32:08
to
32:09
the.
32:09
Especially
32:09
the
32:10
reasoning
32:11
that
32:11
he's
32:11
giving
32:12
behind
32:12
killing
32:13
Bobby,
32:14
it
32:14
being
32:14
like,
32:15
it
32:15
needs
32:15
to
32:15
be
32:15
so
32:16
that
32:16
there's,
32:16
like,
32:16
stakes
32:17
and,
32:17
like,
32:17
emotional
32:18
investment.
32:18
I'm
32:18
like,
32:18
people
32:19
were
32:19
emotionally
32:19
invested.
32:20
You
32:20
upset
32:20
it
32:20
yourself.
32:21
So
32:22
even.
32:22
Even
32:23
within
32:23
the
32:23
frame
32:24
of
32:24
Hotshots,
32:25
Brad,
32:25
Brad's
32:26
character
32:26
was
32:26
a
32:27
little,
32:27
like,
32:27
despondent.
32:28
He
32:28
was
32:28
like,
32:29
I
32:29
don't
32:30
feel
32:30
like
32:30
I'm
32:30
making
32:31
a
32:31
difference.
32:33
So
32:33
I
32:33
think
32:33
I'm
32:34
going
32:34
to
32:34
kill
32:34
off
32:34
my
32:34
character
32:35
and
32:35
leave.
32:36
Which
32:36
is
32:36
kind
32:36
of
32:37
mirroring
32:38
what
32:38
we're
32:39
seeing
32:39
as
32:39
the
32:40
rhetoric
32:41
that
32:41
Tim
32:41
is
32:41
putting
32:42
forward
32:42
here.
32:43
But
32:43
we
32:43
have
32:44
yet
32:44
to.
32:44
To
32:45
get
32:45
that
32:46
hope
32:46
back.
32:47
Because
32:49
you're
32:49
saying,
32:49
like,
32:50
he's
32:50
dead.
32:50
Dead
32:50
when
32:51
you've
32:51
already
32:51
acknowledged,
32:52
like,
32:52
that
32:53
is
32:53
not
32:54
necessarily
32:55
the
32:56
best
32:56
slash.
32:57
Right.
32:57
Slash.
32:58
Most
32:59
accepted
32:59
thing
32:59
to
32:59
do.
33:00
Yeah.
33:01
So
33:01
it
33:01
just.
33:01
It
33:02
just
33:02
seems,
33:02
like,
33:02
weird
33:03
to
33:03
me.
33:04
There's
33:04
a
33:04
quote
33:05
that
33:05
buck
33:05
says
33:05
in
33:06
805
33:07
and
33:07
masks.
33:08
And
33:09
he
33:09
says.
33:09
It's
33:10
in
33:10
the
33:10
monologue
33:11
at
33:11
the
33:11
very
33:11
end.
33:11
He
33:11
says
33:12
kind
33:12
of
33:12
paraphrase.
33:13
I
33:13
can't
33:13
imagine
33:14
anything
33:14
more
33:14
painful
33:15
than
33:15
going
33:15
through
33:16
life
33:16
alone.
33:16
Except
33:17
maybe
33:17
one
33:17
thing.
33:18
Going
33:19
through
33:19
death
33:19
alone.
33:20
And
33:21
meanwhile
33:21
you
33:22
have.
33:22
Sure,
33:23
you
33:23
can
33:23
say
33:23
that's
33:23
foreshadowing
33:24
and
33:24
whatnot,
33:25
but
33:25
here
33:26
you
33:26
have
33:27
a
33:27
situation
33:27
where
33:28
everyone
33:28
is
33:29
so
33:29
isolated
33:30
and
33:30
fractured
33:31
because
33:32
they're
33:32
in
33:32
the
33:32
lab,
33:33
because
33:34
they're
33:34
cut
33:34
off
33:35
from
33:36
each
33:36
other.
33:37
Like
33:37
in
33:37
the
33:37
lab,
33:38
outside
33:38
of
33:38
the
33:38
lab,
33:39
also
33:39
in
33:39
these
33:40
hazmat
33:40
suits
33:42
that
33:42
these
33:42
characters
33:43
can't
33:43
even
33:43
provide,
33:44
like
33:44
the
33:45
physical
33:45
comfort,
33:46
like
33:46
a
33:47
hug
33:47
goodbye.
33:48
Like.
33:48
Like
33:49
that.
33:49
That
33:50
touch,
33:51
you
33:51
know,
33:51
that
33:51
would
33:52
probably
33:52
do
33:53
so
33:53
much.
33:53
Athena
33:54
couldn't
33:54
even
33:55
have
33:56
that
33:56
with
33:56
Bobby
33:57
as
33:57
a
33:57
goodbye.
33:58
No.
33:59
And
33:59
it's
33:59
just
34:00
like.
34:00
And
34:00
so
34:01
that
34:01
kind
34:01
of,
34:01
like
34:02
that
34:02
kind
34:02
of
34:02
physicality
34:03
and
34:03
comfort
34:04
is
34:05
completely
34:05
ripped
34:05
away.
34:06
Like,
34:06
yes,
34:06
they
34:06
might
34:06
have
34:06
been
34:07
in
34:07
the
34:07
same
34:07
vicinity.
34:08
Buck
34:08
was
34:08
trapped
34:09
outside.
34:09
They
34:10
couldn't
34:10
get
34:10
inside.
34:11
You
34:11
know,
34:11
the
34:11
ones
34:12
inside
34:12
couldn't
34:12
get
34:12
outside.
34:13
So
34:14
it's
34:15
very
34:15
isolating
34:16
in
34:16
that
34:16
way.
34:17
So
34:17
essentially
34:18
and
34:18
especially
34:18
Bobby
34:19
made
34:19
that
34:19
decision
34:20
to
34:20
go
34:21
through
34:21
death
34:21
alone.
34:21
And
34:22
it's
34:22
just
34:22
like,
34:22
that
34:23
is
34:23
probably
34:24
the
34:24
most
34:24
painful
34:25
thing.
34:25
I
34:25
don't
34:25
know
34:25
how
34:26
this
34:26
is
34:26
supposed
34:26
to
34:26
progress
34:27
or
34:27
advance,
34:27
like,
34:28
anyone's
34:28
like,
34:29
storyline.
34:30
That
34:30
was
34:30
the
34:30
other
34:30
reason
34:31
he
34:31
gave.
34:31
Yeah.
34:32
Was
34:32
like,
34:32
it
34:33
just
34:33
opens
34:33
up
34:33
so
34:34
much.
34:34
And
34:35
I'm
34:35
like,
34:35
really?
34:36
How?
34:36
Because
34:37
we
34:37
don't
34:37
want
34:37
to
34:37
see
34:38
an
34:38
entire
34:39
three
34:40
episode
34:40
arc
34:41
and
34:41
then
34:41
them
34:41
forgetting
34:42
about
34:42
it
34:42
and
34:42
moving
34:43
on,
34:43
like,
34:43
everything's
34:43
fine.
34:44
And
34:44
we
34:44
also
34:45
don't
34:45
want
34:45
to
34:45
see
34:45
them
34:45
just
34:46
dealing
34:46
with
34:46
it
34:46
for
34:46
all
34:47
of
34:47
time.
34:47
And
34:48
it's
34:48
just
34:48
like
34:48
you
34:48
are
34:49
irreparably
34:49
changing
34:50
the
34:50
show.
34:50
And
34:50
I
34:50
fear
34:51
it's
34:51
not
34:52
for
34:52
the
34:52
better.
34:53
I
34:54
don't
34:54
see
34:54
where
34:55
we're
34:55
going
34:55
with
34:56
this.
34:56
For
34:56
everyone's
34:57
storylines.
34:58
Which
34:58
is
34:58
one
34:59
of
34:59
the.
34:59
One
34:59
of
35:00
the
35:00
three
35:00
reasons
35:00
he
35:00
gave.
35:01
And
35:02
I
35:02
am
35:03
just
35:03
like.
35:04
Just
35:04
doesn't
35:05
feel
35:05
like
35:05
the.
35:06
All
35:06
the
35:06
possibilities
35:06
I
35:07
can
35:07
think
35:07
of.
35:07
It
35:07
doesn't
35:07
feel
35:07
like
35:08
911.
35:09
No.
35:09
Feels
35:10
like
35:10
Grey's
35:10
fucking
35:11
Anatomy.
35:11
And
35:11
you
35:12
know
35:12
what?
35:12
If
35:12
I
35:12
wanted
35:13
to
35:13
watch
35:13
that,
35:13
I
35:13
would.
35:14
I
35:14
would
35:14
do
35:14
it.
35:14
I
35:14
would
35:15
go
35:15
do
35:15
it.
35:15
I
35:16
can.
35:17
I
35:17
agree.
35:17
Yeah.
35:18
I
35:18
only
35:18
watched
35:19
two
35:19
seasons
35:19
of
35:19
that
35:19
show
35:20
and
35:20
I
35:20
just.
35:20
I
35:20
can't.
35:21
I.
35:21
I
35:21
don't
35:21
really
35:22
like
35:22
it.
35:22
If
35:22
I
35:23
really
35:23
wanted
35:23
to
35:23
be
35:24
upset
35:24
all
35:24
the
35:24
time,
35:25
yeah,
35:25
I'd
35:25
probably
35:25
go
35:25
and
35:26
watch
35:26
Grey's
35:26
fucking
35:27
Anatomy.
35:27
But,
35:28
like,
35:28
it
35:28
just
35:29
feels
35:29
very
35:30
dark
35:31
and
35:31
very
35:32
cold
35:33
and.
35:33
And
35:34
this
35:34
cloud
35:35
of
35:35
doom,
35:36
like,
35:36
thinking
35:36
about
35:37
like
35:37
all
35:37
of
35:37
the
35:38
potential
35:39
Storylines
35:41
that
35:41
they
35:41
could,
35:41
they,
35:42
they
35:42
could
35:42
go
35:43
through.
35:44
But
35:44
it
35:44
just
35:45
doesn't,
35:45
it
35:45
again,
35:46
like,
35:46
it
35:46
just
35:46
doesn't
35:46
feel
35:47
like
35:47
91
35:47
1.
35:47
Like
35:48
how
35:48
are
35:48
we,
35:48
how
35:48
are
35:48
we
35:49
really
35:49
going
35:49
to
35:49
get
35:49
these
35:50
characters
35:50
to
35:51
go
35:51
through
35:51
all
35:51
of
35:52
this?
35:52
It.
35:52
It's
35:53
hard.
35:53
And
35:54
I
35:54
get
35:54
that.
35:55
I
35:55
saw
35:55
someone
35:56
say,
35:56
like,
35:56
you
35:56
can
35:57
get
35:57
growth
35:57
out
35:57
of
35:58
grief,
35:58
but
35:59
you.
35:59
Get
36:00
growth
36:00
out
36:00
of
36:00
a
36:00
lot
36:01
of
36:01
things.
36:01
I
36:01
think,
36:02
I
36:02
think
36:02
that's
36:02
such
36:03
a
36:03
cop
36:03
out
36:04
answer
36:04
as
36:05
a
36:05
writer.
36:06
And
36:07
here's
36:07
my
36:07
thing.
36:08
My
36:08
problem
36:08
with
36:09
it
36:09
is
36:09
not
36:09
major
36:10
character
36:10
death
36:10
in
36:10
and
36:11
of
36:11
itself.
36:12
Like,
36:12
that's
36:13
okay.
36:13
There's
36:14
a
36:14
time
36:14
and
36:14
place
36:14
for
36:14
it.
36:14
It's
36:15
just
36:15
the
36:15
fact
36:15
that
36:16
it's
36:16
unprecedented.
36:17
Eight
36:18
season
36:18
into
36:19
a
36:19
show
36:19
and
36:19
this
36:19
is
36:20
how
36:20
it
36:20
was
36:20
done.
36:21
I
36:21
think
36:21
it's
36:22
bad.
36:22
It
36:22
breaks
36:23
the
36:23
entire
36:23
formula
36:24
of
36:24
the
36:24
show.
36:25
It
36:25
breaks
36:25
the
36:25
formula
36:26
and
36:26
it
36:26
breaks
36:26
the
36:26
trust
36:27
with
36:27
the
36:27
audience.
36:28
It
36:28
works
36:28
for
36:28
Grace
36:29
because
36:29
they've
36:29
been
36:29
killing
36:29
people.
36:30
Exactly.
36:31
Here's
36:32
my
36:32
thing
36:32
too,
36:32
is
36:33
like,
36:33
it
36:34
breaks
36:34
trust
36:35
in
36:35
a
36:35
lot
36:36
of
36:36
ways,
36:36
but
36:37
also
36:37
this
36:38
is
36:38
a
36:38
comfort
36:39
show
36:39
for
36:39
a
36:39
lot
36:39
of
36:39
people.
36:40
Yes,
36:40
the,
36:41
the
36:41
characters
36:41
are
36:42
all
36:42
traumatized
36:42
as
36:42
fuck.
36:43
Yes,
36:43
they're
36:43
constantly,
36:43
like
36:44
almost
36:44
dying,
36:45
but
36:45
it's
36:45
still
36:45
a
36:45
comfort
36:46
show
36:46
because
36:46
I
36:46
can,
36:47
I
36:47
can
36:47
plug
36:47
in
36:48
and
36:48
I
36:48
can
36:48
be
36:48
invested
36:49
in
36:49
their
36:49
trauma
36:50
knowing
36:51
that
36:51
they're
36:51
actually
36:52
going
36:52
to
36:52
be
36:52
okay
36:52
and
36:53
not
36:53
die
36:53
at
36:54
the
36:54
end
36:54
of
36:54
the
36:54
day.
36:54
And
36:54
I
36:54
don't
36:54
have
36:55
to
36:55
worry
36:55
about
36:55
that.
36:55
Am
36:55
I
36:56
still.
36:56
There
36:56
are
36:56
still
36:56
stakes.
36:57
I'm
36:57
still
36:57
invested,
36:58
but
36:58
I
36:58
don't
36:58
have
36:58
to
36:59
worry.
36:59
Oh
36:59
my
36:59
God.
37:00
Are
37:00
they
37:00
actually
37:01
going
37:01
to
37:01
be
37:01
okay
37:01
at
37:01
the
37:01
end
37:02
of
37:02
the
37:02
episode?
37:02
And
37:03
that's
37:03
been
37:04
a
37:04
comfort
37:04
for
37:04
a
37:04
lot
37:04
of
37:05
people.
37:05
But
37:05
now
37:05
that
37:06
we've
37:06
opened
37:06
this
37:07
can
37:07
of
37:07
worms,
37:08
we'll
37:08
never
37:09
have
37:09
that
37:09
comfort
37:10
ever
37:10
again.
37:11
You've
37:11
broken
37:12
that
37:12
trust.
37:13
And
37:13
I
37:14
have
37:14
seen
37:14
a
37:14
lot
37:14
of
37:15
people,
37:15
and
37:15
not
37:15
just,
37:16
not
37:16
just
37:16
us,
37:17
not
37:17
just
37:17
people
37:17
like
37:18
us
37:18
who
37:18
are
37:18
not
37:18
normal,
37:19
but
37:19
normal
37:19
people
37:20
saying
37:20
that
37:20
they're
37:21
done
37:21
with
37:21
the
37:21
show.
37:22
Like
37:22
people
37:23
on
37:23
Facebook.
37:24
Yes,
37:25
moms
37:25
on
37:25
Facebook.
37:26
People
37:26
unhappy
37:27
writing
37:28
reviews
37:28
to
37:28
the
37:29
deadline.
37:29
Articles
37:30
that
37:30
are
37:30
like,
37:31
Jesus,
37:32
that
37:32
have
37:32
never
37:33
written
37:33
a
37:33
review
37:33
before
37:34
in
37:34
their
37:34
lives.
37:35
Like,
37:36
putting
37:37
their
37:37
whole
37:37
government
37:37
name
37:38
on
37:38
there.
37:38
I
37:39
know.
37:40
Co
37:41
signed,
37:41
like
37:43
sincerely,
37:45
first,
37:45
middle,
37:46
last
37:46
name.
37:46
But
37:47
to,
37:47
to
37:47
speak
37:47
to,
37:48
like,
37:48
how
37:48
does
37:48
it
37:48
advance
37:49
everyone's
37:49
storylines?
37:50
Like,
37:51
just
37:51
first
37:51
of
37:51
all,
37:51
like,
37:52
Bobby
37:52
and
37:52
Athena
37:52
have
37:53
gone
37:53
through
37:53
so
37:53
much
37:54
and
37:54
they've
37:55
spent
37:55
so
37:55
much
37:55
time
37:56
thinking
37:56
that
37:56
they'd
37:57
lose
37:57
each
37:57
other.
37:58
They've
37:59
earned
37:59
a
38:00
happy
38:00
ending,
38:01
both
38:01
of
38:01
them
38:02
individually
38:02
and
38:03
together.
38:03
Like,
38:03
individually
38:04
as
38:04
characters,
38:05
but
38:05
together
38:05
as
38:05
a
38:05
unit,
38:06
as
38:06
Both
38:06
ina
38:07
they've
38:08
earned
38:08
a
38:08
happy
38:09
ending
38:10
and
38:10
to
38:11
just
38:11
like
38:11
rip
38:12
it
38:12
away
38:12
from
38:13
both
38:13
of
38:13
them
38:13
is
38:14
super
38:15
depressing.
38:16
And
38:16
that's
38:16
like
38:17
putting
38:17
it
38:17
really
38:18
mildly.
38:18
And
38:19
Bobby's
38:19
growth,
38:20
to
38:20
embrace
38:20
life
38:21
and
38:21
love
38:21
and
38:21
happiness
38:22
is
38:22
so
38:23
earned
38:24
throughout
38:24
these
38:25
eight
38:25
seasons
38:26
and
38:26
he
38:26
deserves
38:28
to
38:28
live
38:28
that
38:29
out
38:29
fully.
38:30
There
38:30
are
38:30
plenty
38:30
of
38:31
other
38:31
stories
38:31
and
38:32
opportunities
38:32
that
38:32
you
38:33
can
38:33
make
38:33
with
38:33
that.
38:34
So
38:34
many.
38:35
Like
38:35
this
38:36
doesn't
38:36
have
38:36
to
38:36
be
38:36
the
38:37
end
38:37
of
38:37
it
38:38
just
38:38
specifically
38:39
to.
38:39
To
38:39
call
38:39
out
38:40
for
38:40
Buck,
38:40
his,
38:41
his
38:41
mentor
38:41
and
38:42
his
38:42
only
38:42
good
38:43
father
38:43
figure.
38:44
The
38:44
only
38:44
good
38:45
father
38:45
figure
38:45
for
38:46
all
38:46
of
38:46
them.
38:48
He
38:48
is
38:48
the
38:48
only
38:49
good
38:49
father
38:49
figure.
38:50
I
38:50
mean,
38:51
besides
38:51
the
38:51
characters
38:52
who
38:52
are
38:52
fathers.
38:52
Yes,
38:53
but
38:53
I'm
38:53
talking
38:53
about,
38:54
but
38:54
I'm
38:54
talking
38:54
about
38:55
the
38:55
Core
38:55
4.
38:56
It's
38:56
the
38:56
only
38:56
good
38:57
father
38:57
parent
38:58
figure
38:58
they
38:58
have.
38:59
I
38:59
mean
38:59
like
38:59
chimney
39:00
has
39:00
his
39:00
mom,
39:01
but
39:01
she
39:01
died
39:02
when
39:02
he
39:02
was
39:02
really.
39:02
Young
39:03
and
39:03
he
39:03
has
39:04
the
39:04
lease.
39:04
Those
39:05
are
39:05
adoptive
39:05
parents.
39:06
All
39:07
of
39:07
the,
39:07
all
39:07
of
39:07
the
39:07
blood.
39:08
That
39:09
are
39:09
still
39:09
living
39:10
unfortunately
39:11
suck.
39:13
And
39:13
we've
39:14
talked
39:14
about
39:14
this
39:14
multiple
39:15
times.
39:15
We
39:15
are,
39:16
we
39:16
are
39:16
co
39:16
presidents
39:17
of
39:17
the,
39:17
of
39:17
the
39:18
parent
39:19
hate
39:19
club.
39:20
But,
39:20
but
39:20
to
39:21
have
39:21
Bobby
39:22
be
39:22
ripped
39:22
away
39:22
from
39:23
all
39:23
of
39:23
them
39:23
like
39:23
that
39:24
they
39:24
weren't
39:25
done
39:25
with
39:25
him.
39:26
No,
39:26
no.
39:27
There's
39:27
still
39:27
so
39:27
many
39:28
things
39:28
that
39:28
you
39:28
could
39:28
be
39:28
doing
39:28
with
39:29
this
39:29
storyline.
39:29
Yeah,
39:30
we'll
39:30
get
39:30
into
39:30
that
39:30
in
39:30
bargaining.
39:31
Yeah,
39:31
it's.
39:32
It's
39:32
just
39:33
insane
39:33
to
39:33
me.
39:33
Like
39:33
this
39:34
man
39:34
was
39:34
homeless,
39:35
building
39:36
home
39:36
with,
39:37
with
39:37
Athena.
39:38
It
39:38
was
39:38
their
39:38
dream
39:38
home.
39:39
And
39:40
the
39:40
fact
39:40
that
39:41
she
39:41
has
39:41
destruction,
39:42
she
39:42
has
39:43
to
39:43
be
39:44
a
39:44
widow
39:45
again.
39:45
Basically.
39:46
This
39:46
is
39:46
the
39:46
third
39:47
husband
39:48
she's
39:48
losing.
39:49
Like,
39:50
like
39:51
second
39:51
slash
39:51
third
39:52
love
39:52
of
39:52
her
39:52
life.
39:53
It's
39:53
just.
39:53
That's
39:54
not
39:54
fair
39:54
to
39:54
her.
39:54
How
39:55
is
39:55
she
39:55
gonna
39:55
survive
39:56
that?
39:56
I
39:56
was
39:56
just
39:56
gonna
39:57
bring
39:57
up
39:57
Dean
39:57
Winchester.
39:58
Dean
39:58
Winchester.
39:58
Yeah,
39:59
that's
39:59
what
39:59
I
39:59
was
39:59
gonna
39:59
get
40:00
into.
40:00
Listen,
40:01
if
40:02
you
40:02
haven't
40:02
watched
40:03
Supernatural,
40:03
Spoiler
40:04
alert.
40:04
Dean
40:05
Winchester
40:05
dies
40:06
in
40:06
the
40:06
stupidest
40:07
way
40:07
possible
40:08
after
40:08
he
40:08
survives
40:09
a
40:09
lot
40:09
of.
40:10
Like
40:10
even
40:10
stupider
40:11
than
40:11
this.
40:11
Honestly.
40:12
It
40:13
is
40:13
stupider
40:13
than
40:14
this
40:14
because
40:14
he
40:15
has
40:15
like
40:15
angels
40:16
of
40:16
shit
40:16
who
40:17
can
40:17
heal
40:17
him.
40:17
He's
40:18
just.
40:18
He
40:18
gets
40:18
some
40:19
rebar
40:19
in
40:19
his
40:19
back.
40:20
Not
40:20
even
40:20
through
40:20
his
40:21
skull,
40:21
you
40:22
know.
40:22
And
40:23
it's
40:24
really
40:24
fucked
40:24
up
40:25
for
40:25
Dean
40:25
because
40:27
much
40:27
like
40:27
Bobby,
40:28
his
40:28
battle
40:28
with
40:28
self
40:29
worth
40:29
issues
40:29
and
40:30
suicidal
40:30
ideation
40:31
and
40:31
intentions
40:33
and
40:33
finally
40:34
getting
40:34
to
40:34
a
40:34
place
40:35
of
40:35
peace
40:35
and
40:36
acceptance
40:36
and
40:37
like
40:37
excited
40:37
to
40:38
like
40:38
have
40:39
a
40:39
new
40:39
lease
40:39
in
40:39
life.
40:40
Like
40:40
Dean
40:41
Winchester
40:41
was
40:42
like
40:42
literally
40:43
saved
40:43
the
40:44
wor
40:44
the
40:44
world
40:45
in
40:45
the
40:45
most
40:45
world
40:46
saving
40:46
way
40:46
they
40:46
had
40:46
in
40:47
the
40:47
whole
40:47
15
40:47
seasons.
40:48
He
40:48
was
40:48
filling
40:49
out
40:49
job
40:49
applications.
40:50
He
40:50
had
40:50
one
40:51
to
40:51
be
40:51
a
40:51
Firefighter.
40:52
I
40:52
know.
40:53
And
40:53
then
40:54
they
40:54
killed
40:54
him
40:54
like
40:54
this.
40:56
So.
40:57
And
40:57
it
40:57
just
40:57
sends
40:57
a
40:57
terrible
40:58
fucking
40:58
message.
40:59
It
40:59
just
40:59
sends
40:59
a
40:59
terrible
41:00
fucking
41:00
message
41:01
that,
41:01
like,
41:01
oh,
41:01
you
41:01
have
41:02
a
41:02
slice
41:02
of
41:02
happiness.
41:03
Well,
41:04
your
41:04
storyline
41:04
is
41:05
resolved
41:05
and
41:06
it's
41:06
like,
41:06
what
41:07
is
41:07
the.
41:07
Because
41:08
not
41:08
only
41:08
is
41:08
it,
41:09
like,
41:09
storylines
41:10
for
41:10
the
41:10
characters,
41:11
but
41:11
stories
41:12
are
41:12
also
41:13
teaching
41:14
morals
41:14
of
41:14
the
41:14
story.
41:15
Like,
41:15
what
41:15
is
41:16
the
41:16
message
41:16
that
41:16
you're
41:16
delivering
41:17
with
41:17
the
41:17
story?
41:18
And
41:19
it's
41:19
giving
41:20
very
41:20
much
41:20
like,
41:20
well,
41:21
your
41:21
purpose
41:21
in
41:22
life
41:22
was
41:23
to
41:23
suffer.
41:24
Was
41:25
to
41:25
suffer
41:25
and
41:25
to
41:25
help
41:25
other
41:26
people.
41:26
And,
41:26
like,
41:26
you've
41:27
done
41:27
that.
41:27
So
41:28
you.
41:28
But
41:28
now
41:29
you
41:29
can
41:29
be.
41:29
You
41:29
don't
41:30
regret
41:30
it.
41:30
You
41:30
can
41:30
be
41:30
at
41:31
peace
41:31
now.
41:32
You
41:32
don't
41:32
get
41:32
yourself
41:33
happy.
41:33
But,
41:33
like,
41:34
exactly
41:35
right.
41:35
It's
41:36
like,
41:36
why.
41:36
Why
41:37
are
41:37
you
41:37
taking
41:38
that
41:38
opportunity
41:39
for
41:40
happiness
41:40
away
41:40
from
41:41
them?
41:41
Happiness
41:41
does
41:42
not
41:42
mean
41:42
stagnation.
41:43
No,
41:44
it
41:44
just
41:44
means,
41:45
like,
41:45
a
41:46
new
41:46
path.
41:47
I
41:48
also
41:48
very
41:49
briefly
41:50
compared
41:51
this
41:51
because
41:52
I'm
41:53
also
41:53
really
41:53
upset
41:54
about
41:54
the
41:55
Tony
41:55
Stark's
41:56
death
41:57
because
41:57
Tony
41:57
Stark
41:57
is
41:58
one
41:58
of
41:58
my
41:58
favorite
41:58
characters
41:59
of
41:59
all
41:59
time.
42:00
So
42:00
that
42:00
fucking
42:01
destroyed
42:01
me
42:01
in
42:01
Endgame.
42:03
But
42:04
even
42:05
though
42:05
I
42:05
have
42:05
some
42:05
issues
42:06
of,
42:06
like,
42:06
well,
42:06
you
42:07
could
42:07
have
42:07
done
42:07
this
42:07
or
42:07
done
42:08
that,
42:08
ultimately
42:09
it
42:09
is
42:09
a
42:09
satisfying
42:10
end
42:11
for
42:11
his
42:11
character,
42:12
much
42:13
more
42:14
comparatively,
42:15
especially
42:15
to
42:16
Dean
42:16
and
42:16
Bobby.
42:17
Like,
42:18
when
42:18
I
42:18
rewatch
42:19
Endgame,
42:20
I
42:20
still
42:21
sob.
42:21
I
42:22
still
42:22
sob.
42:23
And
42:23
I
42:23
don't
42:24
think
42:24
I'm
42:24
ever
42:24
going
42:25
to
42:25
rewatch
42:26
this
42:27
Contagion
42:28
arc
42:28
in
42:28
SOB
42:29
because
42:29
I'm
42:29
just
42:29
gonna
42:30
be
42:30
angry.
42:32
Like,
42:32
I'm
42:33
hoping
42:34
maybe,
42:35
maybe,
42:36
maybe
42:36
something
42:36
can
42:37
fix
42:37
it.
42:37
But,
42:37
like,
42:37
I.
42:38
I
42:38
don't
42:38
think
42:38
I
42:39
can.
42:39
I.
42:40
I
42:40
also,
42:40
I
42:40
don't
42:40
think
42:41
I
42:41
can.
42:41
I
42:41
can
42:42
watch
42:42
the.
42:42
This
42:42
arc
42:43
either.
42:43
And.
42:44
And
42:45
cry
42:47
like
42:47
I
42:47
did
42:47
with.
42:48
Oh,
42:48
my
42:48
God.
42:49
Like,
42:50
with
42:50
Endgame.
42:51
When
42:51
I
42:51
watched
42:51
it
42:51
opening
42:52
night,
42:52
that
42:52
was.
42:54
I
42:54
was
42:55
looking
42:55
at
42:56
the
42:56
screen
42:56
like,
42:57
you
42:57
know,
42:57
you're
42:57
in
42:57
the
42:58
middle
42:58
of
42:58
that.
42:59
I
42:59
was
42:59
concerned
43:00
mid
43:01
fight.
43:02
I
43:02
was
43:02
concerned
43:03
mid
43:03
mid
43:03
fight.
43:04
Like,
43:04
I.
43:04
I
43:05
don't
43:05
know.
43:05
I
43:05
was
43:05
just
43:05
like,
43:05
where's
43:06
Tony?
43:06
Because
43:06
there
43:06
was
43:07
a
43:07
part
43:07
where
43:08
he
43:08
wasn't
43:08
on
43:08
the
43:09
screen
43:09
anymore.
43:10
And
43:10
then
43:10
he's
43:10
filing
43:11
on
43:11
the
43:11
screen.
43:11
He's
43:11
got
43:11
the
43:11
glove,
43:12
he's
43:12
got
43:12
the.
43:13
The
43:13
thing.
43:14
And
43:14
then
43:14
he
43:15
snaps
43:15
his
43:15
fingers,
43:16
and
43:16
I'm
43:16
like,
43:16
okay,
43:17
great.
43:17
And
43:17
then
43:18
he
43:18
collapses.
43:18
And
43:18
then
43:19
I'm
43:19
like,
43:19
it's
43:20
over.
43:20
And
43:21
just
43:21
all
43:22
the
43:22
way
43:22
from
43:23
that
43:23
moment,
43:24
all
43:24
the
43:24
way
43:24
home,
43:25
just
43:25
in
43:25
tears.
43:26
Yep.
43:27
And.
43:28
And
43:28
I
43:28
do
43:29
think,
43:29
like,
43:30
Tony's
43:31
is
43:31
different
43:31
than
43:32
Bobby's
43:32
because
43:33
Tony's
43:33
story
43:34
was
43:34
not
43:34
about
43:35
finding
43:36
peace
43:36
and
43:37
happiness
43:38
in
43:38
his
43:39
life.
43:39
Like,
43:39
that
43:40
was
43:40
not,
43:40
like,
43:41
his
43:41
entire
43:42
Story
43:42
arc.
43:44
There
43:44
were
43:44
elements
43:44
to
43:45
it.
43:45
There
43:45
are
43:45
absolutely
43:46
similarities
43:46
here.
43:47
Like,
43:47
I'm
43:48
not
43:48
saying.
43:48
Oh,
43:49
I'm
43:49
not
43:49
saying
43:49
there
43:49
aren't.
43:49
I'm
43:49
just
43:50
saying,
43:50
like,
43:50
yeah,
43:50
like,
43:51
Tony's
43:51
was
43:51
more.
43:52
Tony's
43:52
death
43:53
was
43:53
more
43:53
satisfying
43:54
because
43:54
his
43:55
narrative
43:55
was
43:55
about
43:56
something
43:56
different
43:57
than
43:58
like,
43:59
Bobby
43:59
and
43:59
Dean's,
44:01
if
44:01
that
44:01
makes
44:02
sense.
44:02
So
44:03
I
44:03
think
44:03
that's
44:03
like,
44:04
that's
44:04
the
44:04
difference
44:04
here.
44:05
Yeah,
44:05
well,
44:06
I
44:06
mean,
44:06
if
44:06
you're
44:06
going
44:06
to
44:07
compare
44:07
them,
44:07
I
44:07
mean,
44:07
you've
44:08
got
44:08
a
44:08
character
44:08
racked
44:09
by
44:09
guilt
44:10
for,
44:10
like,
44:10
some
44:10
of
44:10
the
44:11
weapons
44:11
that
44:12
he
44:12
created,
44:12
not
44:12
realizing
44:13
that
44:13
they
44:13
were
44:14
going
44:14
to
44:14
the
44:14
wrong
44:14
hands.
44:15
But,
44:15
like,
44:15
then
44:15
you
44:16
also
44:16
have
44:16
Bobby,
44:16
who's
44:17
also
44:17
wracked
44:17
by
44:18
guilt
44:18
by,
44:18
like,
44:19
the
44:19
fires
44:20
that,
44:20
you
44:21
know,
44:21
that
44:21
he
44:21
accidentally
44:22
started.
44:22
So,
44:22
I
44:23
mean,
44:23
they're
44:24
kind
44:24
of
44:24
the
44:24
same.
44:25
The
44:25
alcoholism.
44:26
Alcoholism
44:26
they
44:26
inherited
44:26
from
44:27
their
44:27
alcoholic,
44:28
abusive
44:28
fathers.
44:29
There
44:29
are.
44:29
There
44:30
are
44:30
a
44:30
lot
44:30
of
44:30
parallels
44:30
there.
44:31
There
44:31
are
44:32
parallels.
44:32
And
44:32
I
44:32
think
44:33
I
44:33
was
44:33
looking
44:33
at.
44:33
It
44:33
from
44:33
like
44:34
a
44:34
very
44:34
zoomed
44:34
out,
44:35
zoomed
44:35
out
44:36
point
44:36
of
44:36
view,
44:36
which
44:36
I
44:36
do
44:37
with
44:37
Endgame
44:37
I
44:37
have
44:37
to
44:38
do
44:38
for
44:38
my
44:39
mental
44:39
sanity.
44:41
Fair.
44:42
So.
44:42
So
44:43
it's
44:43
just.
44:43
It's
44:44
just
44:44
never
44:44
going
44:44
to
44:44
be
44:45
something
44:45
that
44:45
I
44:46
am
44:47
going
44:47
to
44:47
find
44:48
satisfying
44:49
with
44:49
Bobby.
44:50
No.
44:50
Okay,
44:51
so
44:52
what.
44:52
What
44:53
the
44:53
fuck?
44:54
What
44:54
the
44:55
fuck
44:55
were
44:56
we
44:56
doing?
44:57
Killing.
44:58
Killing
44:58
any
44:58
major
44:59
character
44:59
without
44:59
Eddie
44:59
there,
45:00
but
45:00
killing
45:01
Bobby
45:01
Nash
45:02
without
45:02
Eddie
45:03
there,
45:04
the
45:04
only
45:05
good
45:05
mentor
45:06
slash
45:07
father
45:07
figure
45:07
he's
45:08
ever
45:08
had
45:08
in
45:08
his
45:08
life.
45:09
There's
45:09
so
45:10
many
45:10
parallels
45:10
between
45:11
them.
45:11
They're.
45:12
They're
45:12
both,
45:13
again,
45:13
racked
45:14
by
45:14
guilt,
45:16
hate,
45:16
hate
45:17
themselves.
45:18
Like
45:18
the
45:19
Catholic
45:20
guilt.
45:20
He's
45:20
the
45:21
only
45:21
one
45:21
that
45:21
Eddie's
45:22
connected
45:22
with
45:22
on,
45:23
like
45:23
losing
45:23
a
45:23
spouse.
45:24
Yes.
45:25
There's.
45:25
There's
45:26
a
45:26
lot
45:26
of
45:26
things
45:26
that,
45:26
that
45:27
only
45:28
Bobby,
45:28
really.
45:29
Buck
45:30
is
45:30
there
45:31
and
45:31
understands
45:31
him
45:32
in
45:32
a
45:32
way
45:32
that
45:32
no
45:32
one
45:32
else
45:33
does.
45:33
But
45:33
also
45:33
Bobby
45:34
understands
45:34
him
45:34
in
45:35
a
45:35
lot
45:35
of
45:35
ways
45:35
that,
45:36
that,
45:36
that
45:36
Buck
45:37
can't.
45:38
Right.
45:39
Because
45:39
Buck
45:39
just
45:40
can't
45:40
relate.
45:41
It's
45:41
just
45:42
so
45:42
messed
45:42
up
45:43
to
45:43
not
45:43
even
45:44
show
45:44
his
45:44
reaction.
45:45
It's
45:46
so
45:46
messed
45:46
up,
45:47
like,
45:47
I
45:47
don't
45:47
even
45:47
want
45:47
to
45:47
talk
45:47
about,
45:48
like,
45:48
how
45:48
he
45:48
should
45:49
have
45:49
been
45:49
back
45:51
to
45:51
just
45:51
be
45:51
there
45:52
for
45:52
it.
45:52
It's
45:53
so
45:53
fucked
45:53
up
45:53
that
45:54
they
45:54
couldn't
45:54
give
45:54
us
45:55
10
45:55
seconds
45:56
to
45:57
just
45:57
show
45:58
someone,
45:59
preferably
45:59
Buck,
46:00
calling
46:00
him
46:01
and
46:01
him
46:01
picking
46:02
up
46:02
the
46:02
phone,
46:02
going
46:02
like,
46:03
hi,
46:03
Buck.
46:03
And
46:03
then
46:04
just.
46:04
You
46:04
hear
46:05
Buck
46:05
crying
46:06
and
46:06
then
46:06
you
46:06
just
46:07
see
46:07
Eddie's
46:07
face
46:07
fall
46:08
and
46:08
then
46:08
you
46:08
can
46:08
cut
46:09
away
46:09
that.
46:09
Yeah,
46:10
that
46:10
would
46:10
have
46:10
been.
46:10
Would
46:11
have
46:11
been
46:11
easy.
46:12
You
46:12
didn't
46:12
have
46:12
to
46:12
give
46:13
me.
46:13
That's.
46:13
I
46:13
mean,
46:13
that.
46:14
That's
46:14
all
46:14
you
46:14
gave
46:14
everyone
46:15
else
46:15
was
46:16
just
46:16
a
46:16
shot
46:16
of
46:16
their
46:16
face.
46:17
Personally,
46:18
I
46:18
would
46:19
accept
46:19
if
46:19
it
46:19
was
46:20
in
46:20
the
46:20
beginning
46:20
of
46:21
episode
46:21
16,
46:22
but
46:22
the
46:22
fact
46:23
that
46:23
in
46:23
the
46:24
interviews
46:24
that
46:24
were
46:25
released,
46:26
Tim
46:26
said
46:26
explicitly
46:27
that
46:27
you're
46:28
not
46:28
going
46:28
to
46:28
see
46:28
that
46:28
on
46:29
screen.
46:29
Yeah.
46:30
And
46:30
that.
46:31
That
46:31
Eddie
46:31
does
46:32
find
46:32
out
46:32
through
46:32
a
46:32
phone
46:32
call,
46:33
but
46:33
we
46:33
don't
46:33
get
46:33
to
46:34
see
46:34
it.
46:34
That's
46:35
what's.
46:35
That's
46:35
what's
46:35
kind
46:36
of
46:36
infuriating
46:37
because
46:38
it's
46:38
that.
46:39
It's
46:39
that
46:39
isolation
46:40
fracturedness
46:42
where
46:42
like,
46:42
not
46:42
even
46:43
also.
46:44
Show
46:44
me.
46:44
Don't
46:44
tell
46:45
me
46:46
it's
46:46
that.
46:46
But
46:47
it's
46:47
also.
46:48
It
46:48
is
46:49
also
46:49
like
46:49
that
46:49
isolated
46:50
fracturedness
46:52
to
46:52
an
46:53
even
46:53
greater
46:53
degree
46:54
because
46:54
Eddie
46:55
isn't
46:55
even
46:56
in
46:56
the
46:56
vicinity.
46:57
No.
46:58
And
46:59
that
46:59
seems
46:59
like
46:59
a
46:59
disservice
47:00
to
47:01
Bobby
47:01
to
47:01
not
47:02
have
47:02
his
47:02
entire
47:03
family
47:03
with
47:03
him.
47:04
Yeah.
47:04
And
47:04
I
47:04
mean,
47:05
also,
47:05
like,
47:05
at
47:06
that
47:06
point,
47:06
like
47:06
Harry
47:06
and
47:07
May,
47:07
like,
47:07
how
47:08
do
47:08
we
47:08
find
47:08
out
47:08
that
47:08
they
47:09
find
47:09
out?
47:09
Like,
47:09
I'm
47:10
pretty
47:10
sure
47:10
we
47:10
would
47:10
see
47:11
in
47:11
the
47:11
next
47:11
episode,
47:11
but
47:12
who
47:13
knows?
47:13
But.
47:14
But
47:14
it's.
47:14
Yeah.
47:14
It's
47:15
also
47:15
that,
47:15
like
47:16
the
47:16
entire
47:16
118
47:17
family
47:17
was
47:18
not
47:18
there
47:18
and
47:18
Eddie
47:19
now
47:19
has
47:19
to
47:19
deal
47:19
with
47:20
guilt
47:20
about
47:21
not
47:21
being
47:22
there
47:22
on
47:22
top
47:23
of
47:23
everything
47:23
else.
47:23
Not
47:24
only
47:24
that,
47:24
but
47:24
we.
47:24
We
47:25
got
47:25
to
47:25
see
47:26
Tommy
47:27
react,
47:28
but
47:28
not
47:29
Eddie.
47:29
Tommy
47:30
was
47:30
there.
47:30
We
47:30
had.
47:31
We
47:31
had
47:31
a
47:31
two,
47:32
two
47:32
and
47:33
a
47:33
half
47:33
minute
47:33
helicopter
47:34
chase,
47:34
which,
47:35
I'm
47:35
sorry,
47:36
did
47:36
not
47:36
play
47:37
out
47:37
well
47:38
for
47:38
me
47:38
visually.
47:39
I
47:39
kind
47:40
of
47:40
liked
47:40
it,
47:40
but
47:40
I'll
47:40
have
47:41
to.
47:41
I
47:41
know.
47:41
Again,
47:42
I
47:42
hated
47:42
it.
47:42
I
47:43
didn't
47:43
like
47:43
it.
47:44
I'm
47:44
just
47:44
gonna
47:44
say,
47:45
who
47:45
cares?
47:45
The
47:45
idea
47:46
of
47:46
it.
47:46
Cool.
47:46
But
47:47
you
47:47
know
47:47
what
47:47
also
47:47
would
47:47
have
47:47
been
47:48
cool?
47:48
Taking
47:49
30
47:49
seconds
47:50
of
47:50
that
47:50
away
47:51
or
47:51
just
47:51
cutting
47:51
it
47:52
completely
47:53
so
47:53
that
47:53
we
47:53
could
47:54
have
47:54
had
47:54
more
47:55
reactions.
47:56
Because
47:57
that's
47:57
more
47:58
important.
47:59
It's
47:59
more
47:59
important.
48:00
The
48:00
major
48:00
character
48:01
death
48:01
is
48:01
more
48:01
important
48:01
than
48:02
the
48:02
cool
48:02
helicopter
48:03
chase.
48:03
The.
48:04
Honestly,
48:04
it's.
48:04
It's
48:05
the
48:05
range
48:05
of
48:05
time
48:06
that
48:06
goes
48:06
through
48:06
because
48:07
you're
48:07
like,
48:07
it's
48:08
day
48:08
and
48:08
then
48:08
it's
48:09
suddenly
48:09
night.
48:09
You're
48:10
in
48:10
la,
48:11
it
48:11
was
48:11
pitch
48:11
black
48:12
night.
48:12
Like,
48:12
what
48:13
are
48:13
we
48:13
doing?
48:15
It
48:15
could
48:15
have
48:15
been.
48:16
It
48:16
really
48:17
could
48:17
have
48:17
been
48:17
cut.
48:18
At
48:19
least
48:19
like,
48:19
half
48:19
of
48:19
that.
48:20
Like,
48:20
we
48:20
didn't
48:20
need
48:20
all
48:21
of
48:21
that.
48:21
No.
48:22
Yeah.
48:22
I
48:22
don't
48:23
know.
48:23
I'm
48:23
just.
48:24
In
48:24
regards
48:25
to,
48:25
like,
48:25
Eddie
48:26
not
48:26
being
48:26
there,
48:26
I'm.
48:27
I'm
48:27
just,
48:28
like,
48:29
sad
48:29
about
48:29
it.
48:30
It
48:30
doesn't.
48:31
It
48:31
just
48:31
doesn't
48:31
make.
48:32
Again,
48:32
none
48:33
of
48:33
it.
48:33
None
48:33
of
48:33
it
48:34
makes
48:34
sense.
48:35
Just
48:35
does
48:36
not
48:36
make
48:36
sense
48:36
that
48:36
we're
48:37
not
48:37
getting
48:37
a
48:37
reaction.
48:38
It
48:38
doesn't
48:38
make
48:39
sense
48:39
that
48:39
we
48:39
can't
48:39
even
48:39
get
48:40
the
48:40
phone
48:40
call
48:40
on
48:41
screen.
48:41
It
48:41
doesn't
48:42
make
48:42
sense
48:42
that,
48:43
that
48:44
it's
48:44
like
48:44
a
48:44
disservice
48:45
to
48:45
even
48:45
him
48:45
who,
48:46
who
48:46
he
48:47
also
48:47
is
48:47
a
48:47
character
48:48
that.
48:48
I
48:49
mean
48:49
I
48:49
get
48:49
that
48:50
we
48:50
said
48:50
that
48:50
Bobby
48:51
sees
48:51
him,
48:52
but
48:52
like
48:52
Eddie
48:53
is
48:53
also
48:53
a
48:54
character
48:54
that
48:54
understands
48:55
Bobby
48:56
in
48:56
a
48:56
way.
48:57
You
48:57
know,
48:57
you
48:57
have
48:57
all
48:58
of
48:58
that
48:58
from
48:58
like
48:59
the
48:59
end
48:59
of
49:00
season
49:00
five
49:00
where,
49:02
where
49:02
Eddie
49:03
is
49:03
like
49:03
thanking
49:04
him
49:04
and
49:04
saying,
49:04
listen,
49:05
take
49:05
credit
49:05
for
49:05
me.
49:06
You
49:06
saved
49:06
me.
49:06
You
49:07
say
49:07
you
49:07
saved
49:08
me
49:08
and
49:08
my
49:08
son.
49:08
Like,
49:09
you
49:09
know,
49:10
there's
49:10
just.
49:11
It
49:11
just
49:12
doesn't
49:12
make
49:13
sense
49:13
that
49:13
we're
49:13
doing
49:14
it
49:14
this
49:14
way.
49:15
I
49:15
mean,
49:16
that
49:16
being
49:16
said,
49:17
I,
49:17
I
49:18
get
49:18
what.
49:19
I
49:19
think
49:19
I
49:19
understand
49:20
what
49:20
they're
49:20
trying
49:21
to
49:21
do
49:21
with
49:22
that
49:22
because
49:22
I've
49:23
mentioned
49:23
it
49:23
in
49:24
like
49:25
the,
49:26
the
49:26
way
49:26
they're
49:27
doing
49:27
their
49:27
season
49:27
five
49:28
redux
49:28
and
49:29
like
49:29
the,
49:30
the
49:30
Eddie
49:31
breakdown
49:31
of
49:31
it
49:31
all.
49:32
But
49:32
I,
49:32
I
49:33
just,
49:33
I
49:33
don't.
49:34
I,
49:34
I
49:35
just
49:35
think
49:35
it's
49:35
kind
49:35
of
49:36
still
49:36
do
49:36
it.
49:38
Showing
49:38
us
49:38
a
49:38
five
49:39
second
49:39
reaction.
49:39
Yes.
49:40
I
49:40
just
49:40
think
49:40
if
49:41
I
49:41
feel
49:41
like
49:41
it's
49:42
very
49:42
disrespectful
49:43
of,
49:43
of
49:43
that
49:44
character
49:44
who's
49:44
also
49:45
part
49:45
of
49:45
the
49:45
family.
49:46
It's
49:47
disrespectful
49:47
to
49:48
the
49:48
character,
49:48
it's
49:48
disrespectful
49:49
to
49:49
the
49:49
fans.
49:50
I
49:50
don't.
49:51
Yeah,
49:51
I'm
49:52
cutting
49:52
it
49:52
there.
49:52
I'm
49:52
not
49:52
gonna.
49:54
Yeah,
49:54
it's.
49:55
I
49:55
don't
49:55
know.
49:55
I,
49:55
I
49:56
could
49:56
go
49:56
on
49:56
on
49:57
about
49:57
this.
49:57
I
49:57
could
49:57
go
49:57
on
49:58
on
49:58
about
49:58
like,
49:59
listen,
49:59
there
49:59
wasn't
49:59
a
50:00
lot
50:00
of
50:00
time
50:00
that
50:00
could
50:01
have
50:01
been
50:01
spared
50:01
on
50:01
other
50:01
things
50:02
in
50:02
this
50:02
episode.
50:02
But
50:02
that
50:02
helicopter
50:03
chase
50:03
and
50:04
then
50:04
you
50:04
could
50:05
have
50:05
take.
50:05
Taken
50:06
that
50:06
little.
50:06
Thanks
50:07
for
50:07
doing
50:07
this
50:07
for
50:08
me.
50:08
I'm
50:08
not
50:08
doing
50:08
it
50:08
for
50:09
you.
50:09
I'm
50:09
doing
50:09
it
50:09
for
50:09
Chimney
50:10
and
50:10
for.
50:11
You
50:11
didn't
50:11
need
50:12
that.
50:12
Why
50:12
did
50:12
we
50:13
need
50:13
that?
50:13
Because.
50:13
Why,
50:14
Because
50:14
Tommy
50:14
is
50:15
a
50:15
plot
50:15
device.
50:17
I
50:17
mean
50:17
I
50:17
told
50:18
you
50:18
my,
50:19
my
50:19
reason
50:19
for
50:20
why
50:20
I
50:20
think
50:20
it's
50:20
there.
50:20
But
50:21
I
50:21
understand,
50:22
I
50:22
understand
50:22
the
50:22
reason
50:23
for
50:23
it
50:23
being
50:23
there.
50:24
Do
50:24
I
50:24
think
50:24
it's
50:24
more
50:25
important
50:25
than
50:25
seeing
50:26
more
50:27
reactions
50:27
from
50:27
everyone,
50:28
including
50:28
just
50:29
seeing
50:29
Eddie's
50:29
at
50:30
all
50:31
seen
50:32
May
50:32
and
50:32
Harry
50:32
find.
50:33
I'm
50:33
sorry,
50:34
I'm
50:34
just.
50:35
This
50:35
is.
50:36
I
50:36
don't
50:36
know.
50:36
It's
50:36
just.
50:37
It
50:37
leave.
50:38
It
50:38
just
50:38
leaves
50:38
a
50:38
poor
50:39
taste
50:39
in,
50:39
in
50:40
the
50:40
mouth.
50:40
Yeah.
50:41
I
50:41
think
50:41
we
50:42
are
50:42
very
50:42
much
50:43
trust
50:43
the
50:43
process
50:43
people.
50:44
So
50:44
like.
50:44
Yeah,
50:45
we
50:45
know
50:45
that
50:46
there's
50:46
been
50:46
a
50:46
lot
50:46
of
50:46
frustrations
50:48
like
50:48
overall
50:49
with
50:49
like,
50:49
like
50:50
Eddie's
50:50
storyline
50:51
and
50:51
like
50:52
we
50:52
understand
50:53
them
50:53
but
50:53
like
50:54
we're
50:54
holding
50:54
off
50:55
until
50:57
the
50:57
season
50:58
arc
50:58
is
50:58
to,
50:59
you
50:59
know,
50:59
to,
50:59
to
50:59
Fully
51:00
judge
51:00
it.
51:00
But
51:01
this.
51:02
We
51:02
can't
51:02
figure
51:02
out
51:03
a
51:03
proper
51:04
explanation
51:04
for
51:04
it,
51:05
which
51:05
is
51:05
what
51:05
we
51:05
know
51:06
usually
51:06
try
51:06
to
51:06
do.
51:07
Well,
51:07
we
51:07
would
51:07
maybe
51:08
be
51:08
holding
51:08
off
51:08
to
51:09
see
51:09
if.
51:09
If
51:09
we
51:10
saw
51:10
it
51:10
in
51:10
16,
51:10
but
51:11
Tim
51:11
already
51:11
said
51:11
no.
51:12
So.
51:13
Yeah.
51:13
What
51:14
are
51:14
we
51:14
doing?
51:14
That's
51:15
what
51:15
I
51:15
was
51:15
holding
51:15
off
51:15
until
51:16
I
51:16
read
51:16
the
51:16
articles
51:16
and
51:17
I
51:17
was.
51:17
Like,
51:17
oh,
51:18
yeah,
51:20
yeah,
51:21
this
51:22
has
51:22
been
51:22
anger.
51:24
It
51:24
will
51:24
probably
51:25
continue.
51:26
Oh,
51:26
oh,
51:26
yeah,
51:27
that's.
51:27
We
51:28
got
51:28
two
51:28
weeks.
51:29
It's
51:29
running.
51:30
It's
51:30
running
51:30
under.
51:30
Under
51:31
the
51:31
surface
51:31
of.
51:32
Of
51:32
all
51:32
this
51:32
a
51:33
little
51:33
bit.
51:33
So
51:34
for
51:34
sure.
51:35
I
51:35
guess
51:35
that
51:35
brings
51:36
us
51:36
to
51:37
a
51:37
bargaining.
51:38
AKA
51:38
an
51:38
open
51:39
letter
51:39
to
51:40
Tim,
51:40
my
51:40
near.
51:41
Dear
51:41
Tim,
51:41
my
51:42
near.
51:42
First
51:42
of
51:43
all,
51:43
let
51:43
me
51:44
just
51:44
quote,
51:45
I
51:45
think
51:46
number
51:46
one
51:46
on
51:46
your
51:46
call
51:47
sheet,
51:47
Angela
51:48
Bassett.
51:50
Okay.
51:51
What
51:51
did
51:51
she
51:52
say?
51:52
Angela
51:52
said
51:53
about
51:53
envisioning
51:54
a
51:54
world
51:54
where
51:54
911
51:55
coupling,
51:55
Athena,
51:56
Grant
51:56
Nash
51:57
and
51:57
Bobby
51:57
Nash
51:58
doesn't
51:58
exist.
51:59
Quote.
52:00
Yeah,
52:00
absolutely
52:01
not.
52:01
It
52:01
would
52:02
be
52:02
so
52:02
different.
52:03
I
52:03
don't
52:03
even
52:03
know
52:04
what
52:04
the
52:04
show
52:04
would
52:04
be
52:05
like
52:05
without
52:05
them
52:05
together.
52:06
It's
52:06
hard
52:06
to
52:06
imagine
52:07
your
52:08
metaphorical
52:08
weekly
52:09
mom
52:09
and
52:09
dad
52:10
will
52:10
keep
52:10
you
52:10
safe.
52:11
What
52:11
happened
52:12
to
52:12
that?
52:12
Why'd
52:13
you
52:13
let
52:13
her
52:13
go
52:13
on
52:13
People.
52:14
Magazine
52:15
and
52:15
say
52:16
that?
52:16
Maybe
52:17
you
52:17
should
52:17
have
52:17
listened
52:17
to
52:18
her.
52:18
Maybe
52:19
you
52:19
should
52:19
still
52:19
listen
52:20
to
52:20
her.
52:20
Yeah.
52:21
It's
52:21
almost
52:21
like
52:22
the
52:22
universe
52:22
is
52:22
screaming
52:23
at
52:23
you.
52:23
Like
52:24
the
52:24
entire.
52:24
It's
52:24
almost
52:25
like.
52:25
It's
52:25
almost
52:26
like
52:27
you
52:27
said
52:27
that
52:27
you
52:28
had
52:28
to.
52:28
To
52:29
convince
52:29
the
52:29
network.
52:30
You
52:30
said
52:31
that
52:31
every
52:31
single
52:32
cast
52:32
member
52:33
you
52:33
told
52:34
hated
52:34
it.
52:36
Like
52:37
it's
52:37
trying
52:37
to
52:38
talk
52:38
out
52:38
of
52:38
it.
52:39
Listen,
52:40
you
52:40
didn't
52:40
listen
52:40
to
52:41
their
52:41
bargaining.
52:42
So
52:42
now
52:42
we're
52:42
just
52:43
like
52:43
repeating
52:43
it
52:44
back
52:44
to
52:44
you
52:45
with
52:45
some
52:45
addendums.
52:46
Yeah.
52:47
And
52:47
like,
52:48
also,
52:49
just
52:49
as
52:49
an
52:49
aside,
52:50
didn't
52:50
this
52:50
article
52:51
that
52:51
she
52:51
said
52:51
this
52:52
come
52:52
out
52:52
On,
52:53
I
52:53
think
52:53
March
52:54
27,
52:55
which
52:55
was
52:56
three
52:56
days
52:57
before
52:58
the
52:58
live
52:58
stream
52:59
funeral.
53:00
Yes.
53:01
Of
53:01
the
53:01
very
53:01
public
53:02
funeral
53:03
procession.
53:03
Yeah.
53:04
Which
53:04
is
53:04
one
53:04
of
53:04
the
53:04
many
53:05
reasons
53:05
that
53:05
we
53:05
were
53:05
like,
53:05
this
53:06
is
53:06
not
53:06
real.
53:07
Yeah.
53:07
Yeah.
53:07
Because
53:08
also
53:08
like
53:09
that
53:09
interview.
53:10
I'm
53:10
assuming
53:11
interviews
53:12
are
53:12
usually
53:12
done
53:13
at
53:13
least
53:13
within
53:14
the
53:14
same
53:14
week,
53:14
generally
53:15
speaking.
53:16
Yeah.
53:16
So
53:16
by
53:17
that
53:17
time
53:17
she
53:17
would
53:18
have
53:18
had
53:18
to
53:18
know.
53:19
I
53:19
think
53:20
you
53:20
would
53:20
think,
53:21
because
53:21
be.
53:22
Well,
53:22
yes,
53:23
because
53:23
they
53:23
would
53:24
have
53:24
already
53:24
filmed
53:25
15
53:26
because
53:26
they
53:26
filmed
53:27
14
53:27
and
53:27
15
53:28
before
53:28
they
53:28
filmed
53:29
13.
53:29
So
53:30
that
53:30
would
53:30
have
53:30
already
53:30
been
53:31
klitzky.
53:32
I
53:32
think
53:33
I
53:33
just
53:33
made
53:33
that
53:33
up.
53:34
Even
53:34
if
53:34
they
53:34
hadn't,
53:35
I
53:35
think
53:35
he.
53:35
I
53:35
think
53:35
Tim
53:36
said
53:36
that
53:36
she
53:36
was
53:37
so
53:37
like,
53:37
he
53:37
told
53:38
Peter,
53:39
like
53:40
months.
53:40
Like
53:41
a
53:41
couple.
53:41
Couple
53:42
months
53:42
in
53:42
advance
53:42
and
53:43
that
53:43
they.
53:43
Were
53:43
in
53:43
talks
53:44
about
53:44
it.
53:44
Angela
53:45
was
53:45
the
53:45
next
53:45
person
53:46
he
53:46
told,
53:46
which
53:47
Makes
53:47
sense
53:48
because
53:49
she's
53:49
also
53:50
an
53:50
executive
53:50
producer.
53:52
She
53:52
has
53:52
stakes.
53:53
I
53:53
have
53:53
a
53:53
hard
53:54
time
53:54
believing
53:54
she
53:55
didn't
53:55
know.
53:56
And
53:56
I
53:56
did
53:56
say
53:56
this.
53:56
When
53:57
that
53:57
article
53:57
came
53:57
out,
53:57
I
53:58
was
53:58
like,
53:58
why
53:58
is
53:59
she
53:59
saying
53:59
this?
54:00
Is
54:00
this.
54:01
Yeah,
54:01
we
54:01
did
54:01
go.
54:02
What
54:02
a
54:02
weird
54:02
thing
54:02
to
54:03
say.
54:03
I
54:03
just
54:04
thought
54:04
it
54:04
was
54:04
weird
54:04
that
54:05
she
54:05
went
54:05
and
54:06
talked
54:06
about
54:06
it
54:06
and.
54:07
Yeah,
54:07
I
54:07
don't
54:07
remember.
54:07
Wait,
54:08
wait,
54:08
March
54:08
27,
54:09
what
54:09
episode
54:09
aired.
54:10
Aired
54:10
that
54:10
week
54:11
because
54:11
I
54:11
thought
54:12
it
54:12
was
54:12
weird
54:12
because
54:12
I
54:13
don't
54:13
think
54:13
she
54:13
had
54:13
anything
54:14
of
54:15
sustenance.
54:16
Was
54:17
that
54:17
1212?
54:18
Yeah.
54:19
Which
54:19
was
54:21
disconnected.
54:22
Yeah.
54:23
Which
54:23
was
54:24
Eddie
54:25
and
54:25
Maddie.
54:26
And
54:26
Maddie.
54:26
So
54:27
yeah,
54:27
she
54:27
was.
54:27
But
54:27
she.
54:27
I
54:27
don't
54:28
think
54:28
she.
54:28
I
54:28
don't
54:29
think
54:29
she
54:29
talked
54:29
about
54:30
that
54:30
episode
54:30
though.
54:31
Yeah.
54:34
Anyway,
54:34
it
54:34
was
54:34
a
54:35
weird.
54:35
It
54:35
was
54:35
a
54:36
weird
54:36
interview
54:36
that
54:37
was
54:37
had
54:37
and
54:37
released
54:38
around
54:38
a
54:39
really
54:39
weird
54:40
time
54:40
when
54:41
the
54:41
storyline
54:42
had
54:42
nothing
54:42
to
54:43
do
54:43
with
54:43
her.
54:43
But
54:43
I
54:44
get
54:44
that
54:44
People
54:44
magazine
54:45
is.
54:45
Really
54:45
just
54:45
more
54:46
maybe
54:46
that
54:46
was
54:46
trying.
54:47
To
54:47
bargain
54:49
like,
54:50
like
54:50
earn.
54:51
Earn
54:51
public
54:51
favor.
54:53
And
54:53
her,
54:54
her
54:54
being
54:54
like,
54:56
yeah,
54:56
Tim,
54:57
I
54:57
recognize
54:57
that
54:57
you've
54:58
made
54:58
a
54:58
decision.
54:59
I
54:59
had
54:59
an
54:59
interview
55:00
with
55:00
People,
55:00
so.
55:00
Interesting.
55:01
Let
55:01
me
55:01
tell
55:02
you
55:02
what
55:02
I
55:02
said.
55:02
Yeah.
55:04
Like
55:05
kind
55:05
of
55:05
trying
55:06
to,
55:06
to
55:07
nag
55:07
him
55:07
out
55:08
and,
55:08
and
55:08
like,
55:09
like
55:09
we
55:09
just
55:09
said
55:10
him
55:11
having
55:11
to
55:12
like
55:12
pull
55:13
teeth
55:13
to
55:13
convince
55:14
everybody
55:15
on
55:15
the
55:15
cast.
55:16
If
55:16
you
55:16
have,
55:17
if
55:17
you
55:17
have
55:18
everybody
55:20
kind
55:20
of
55:20
taking
55:20
the
55:21
same
55:21
stance.
55:22
I
55:22
know
55:22
everybody's
55:23
very
55:23
close
55:23
to
55:24
it,
55:24
but
55:24
like
55:25
there's
55:25
usually
55:26
a
55:26
couple
55:27
people
55:27
here
55:27
and
55:27
there
55:27
that
55:28
are
55:28
like,
55:28
okay,
55:29
I
55:29
see
55:29
what
55:29
you're
55:30
doing.
55:30
And
55:30
like,
55:31
okay,
55:31
that's
55:31
fine.
55:32
But
55:32
like
55:32
everybody
55:33
trying
55:34
to,
55:34
to
55:34
talk
55:35
you
55:35
out
55:35
of
55:35
it.
55:36
Maybe
55:37
you
55:37
should
55:37
listen
55:39
to
55:39
even
55:40
believe
55:40
you
55:40
were
55:40
serious.
55:43
That's
55:44
how
55:44
I
55:44
feel
55:44
right
55:45
now.
55:45
Yeah.
55:46
Except
55:46
mine
55:46
is
55:47
probably
55:47
going
55:47
to
55:47
be
55:47
like
55:47
a
55:47
couple
55:48
of
55:48
days.
55:49
Weeks.
55:49
Yes.
55:50
Well,
55:50
technically
55:50
it's
55:50
been
55:51
like
55:51
a
55:51
month
55:51
now.
55:52
It'll
55:52
probably
55:52
take
55:53
me
55:53
until
55:53
almost
55:55
May
55:56
22
55:59
to
55:59
believe
55:59
that
56:00
it's
56:00
real,
56:00
which
56:01
is
56:01
a
56:01
week
56:01
after
56:02
the
56:02
finale.
56:03
We'd
56:03
also
56:03
like
56:03
to
56:04
talk
56:04
to
56:04
you,
56:04
Tim,
56:05
about
56:05
this
56:05
concept
56:06
that
56:06
we
56:06
thought
56:06
you
56:06
understood
56:07
because
56:08
of
56:08
the
56:08
rest
56:08
of
56:09
the
56:09
show
56:10
that
56:10
you've
56:10
been
56:10
show
56:11
running.
56:12
But
56:12
let's.
56:13
And.
56:13
And
56:14
all
56:14
of
56:14
Lonestar
56:15
where
56:16
you
56:16
also
56:16
didn't
56:16
kill
56:17
any
56:17
major
56:18
characters.
56:19
Major
56:19
character
56:20
death
56:20
is
56:20
not
56:20
the
56:21
only
56:21
way
56:21
to
56:21
establish
56:22
stakes
56:23
in
56:23
the
56:23
show.
56:24
Much
56:25
like
56:25
people,
56:25
if
56:26
they
56:26
didn't
56:26
have
56:26
stakes,
56:26
there
56:27
wouldn't
56:27
be
56:27
a
56:27
show.
56:27
They
56:28
wouldn't
56:28
keep
56:28
watching
56:28
it.
56:29
There's
56:29
always
56:30
going
56:30
to
56:30
be
56:30
stakes,
56:30
but
56:30
it
56:31
doesn't
56:31
have
56:31
to
56:31
be
56:31
exactly
56:33
like.
56:34
You'Ve
56:34
done
56:34
this
56:34
successfully
56:35
for
56:35
eight
56:36
seasons
56:36
on
56:36
this
56:37
show
56:37
and
56:37
on
56:37
Lone
56:38
Star.
56:38
Because
56:39
even
56:39
though
56:40
the
56:40
audience,
56:40
us,
56:41
the
56:41
viewers,
56:42
were
56:42
pretty
56:42
certain
56:43
that
56:44
the
56:44
characters
56:45
were
56:45
going
56:45
to
56:45
survive,
56:46
the
56:46
characters
56:47
in
56:47
the
56:47
universe
56:48
never
56:49
were.
56:49
And
56:49
the
56:50
stakes
56:50
have
56:50
always
56:51
been
56:51
the
56:51
character's
56:52
feelings.
56:54
That's
56:54
where
56:54
the
56:55
true
56:55
power
56:56
of
56:56
this
56:57
show
56:57
lies,
56:58
is
56:58
in
56:59
the
56:59
characters.
57:00
Yes,
57:00
it's
57:00
a
57:01
procedural
57:01
realism.
57:02
That's
57:03
exactly.
57:03
The
57:04
emotionality
57:05
is
57:05
the
57:05
realism.
57:06
Yeah.
57:06
Because
57:07
yes,
57:08
it's
57:08
a
57:08
procedural.
57:09
Yes,
57:09
it's
57:09
a
57:09
little
57:09
larger
57:10
than
57:10
life
57:11
at
57:11
times.
57:12
But
57:12
what
57:13
ground.
57:13
And
57:13
we've
57:14
said
57:14
this
57:14
from
57:14
the
57:14
very
57:14
beginning,
57:15
what
57:15
grounds
57:16
911
57:17
is
57:18
the
57:18
character
57:19
and
57:19
the
57:19
emotions
57:20
that
57:20
they
57:21
feel
57:22
and
57:22
the
57:22
emotions
57:23
that
57:23
the
57:23
characters
57:24
feel
57:24
and
57:25
that
57:25
the
57:25
actors
57:26
portray
57:27
for
57:27
the
57:27
character
57:28
through
57:28
the
57:28
characters.
57:29
That's
57:29
what
57:29
makes
57:30
the
57:30
audience.
57:31
Yep.
57:32
Become
57:33
so
57:33
attached
57:33
and
57:34
feel
57:34
and
57:34
empathize
57:35
with
57:36
the
57:36
characters.
57:37
So,
57:37
like,
57:37
the
57:38
characters
57:38
don't
57:39
know
57:40
that
57:40
it's
57:40
not
57:41
like
57:42
the
57:42
end
57:42
all
57:42
be
57:43
all.
57:43
And
57:43
that's
57:44
what
57:44
makes
57:44
it
57:44
real.
57:45
Even
57:45
if
57:45
we
57:46
on
57:46
the
57:46
outside
57:46
are
57:46
like,
57:47
it's
57:47
gonna
57:47
be
57:48
fine,
57:48
but
57:49
I'm
57:49
still
57:49
gonna
57:50
go
57:50
through
57:50
it
57:50
when
57:51
they're
57:51
going
57:51
through
57:51
it
57:52
because
57:53
I
57:53
empathize
57:54
with
57:54
the
57:54
characters
57:55
because
57:55
of
57:55
the
57:55
writing
57:56
and
57:56
the
57:56
performance.
57:57
Yeah.
57:58
That's
57:58
what
57:58
makes
57:58
us
57:58
invested
57:59
in
57:59
regards.
58:00
To
58:00
the
58:00
whole,
58:00
like,
58:01
oh,
58:02
now
58:02
that
58:02
I.
58:02
Now
58:02
that
58:03
I've
58:03
killed
58:03
off
58:04
a
58:04
main
58:04
character.
58:05
Now
58:05
that.
58:06
Now
58:06
there
58:06
are
58:06
stakes.
58:07
Okay,
58:07
sure.
58:08
So
58:08
you.
58:08
You.
58:09
You
58:09
killed
58:09
him
58:10
off.
58:10
Okay.
58:11
He's
58:12
canonically
58:13
dead,
58:14
I
58:14
guess.
58:15
You
58:15
can
58:16
still.
58:17
You
58:18
can
58:18
still
58:18
change
58:19
it
58:19
because
58:19
you're
58:20
in
58:20
charge.
58:20
Because
58:21
you're
58:21
in
58:21
charge.
58:22
You
58:22
can
58:22
still
58:22
change
58:23
it
58:23
because
58:23
you're
58:23
in
58:23
charge.
58:24
And,
58:24
like,
58:24
from
58:25
my
58:25
understanding,
58:26
is
58:26
that
58:26
you're
58:26
giving
58:26
these
58:26
actors
58:27
scripts
58:28
at
58:28
the
58:28
last
58:28
minute.
58:29
You're
58:29
changing
58:30
all
58:30
the
58:30
time.
58:31
Why
58:31
not
58:31
change
58:32
this?
58:32
Why
58:32
not
58:32
change
58:33
this?
58:34
And
58:34
also
58:35
two
58:35
weeks
58:35
and.
58:36
Okay,
58:36
you
58:36
want
58:36
to
58:36
up
58:37
the
58:37
stakes.
58:38
You
58:38
want
58:38
to
58:38
up
58:39
the
58:39
stakes.
58:39
Okay,
58:40
so
58:41
what
58:41
you
58:41
could
58:42
also
58:42
do.
58:42
So
58:43
this
58:43
is
58:43
what
58:43
I.
58:44
What
58:44
I'm.
58:44
This
58:45
is.
58:45
This
58:45
is
58:45
me
58:45
being
58:45
the
58:46
lulu
58:46
or
58:46
being.
58:46
Or
58:47
proposing
58:47
or
58:47
whatever
58:48
the
58:48
fuck.
58:49
This
58:49
is.
58:49
You.
58:49
This
58:49
is
58:49
bargaining.
58:50
Yeah.
58:50
Yes.
58:51
You
58:51
could
58:52
literally.
58:53
You're.
58:53
You're
58:54
gonna
58:54
drag
58:54
this
58:54
death
58:55
as
58:55
far
58:56
as
58:56
you
58:56
can
58:56
go.
58:57
It
58:57
just.
58:57
Just
58:58
go
58:58
as
58:58
far
58:58
as
58:58
you
58:58
can
58:59
go
58:59
and
58:59
then
58:59
take
58:59
it
58:59
back.
58:59
Like,
59:00
it's
59:00
that.
59:00
It's
59:01
that
59:01
simple.
59:02
Take
59:02
it
59:02
back.
59:03
Which
59:03
is
59:03
why
59:04
I
59:04
still
59:04
think
59:05
this
59:05
is
59:05
fucking
59:05
fake.
59:06
But
59:06
whatever.
59:06
Anyway.
59:07
Yeah.
59:07
Because
59:08
it
59:08
would
59:08
be
59:08
such
59:09
a
59:09
good
59:09
gotcha.
59:10
It
59:10
would
59:10
be.
59:11
Yeah.
59:11
The
59:11
evil
59:12
kind
59:12
of
59:12
thing
59:13
you
59:13
would
59:13
do,
59:14
Tim.
59:14
And
59:14
we
59:15
would.
59:16
Yeah,
59:16
it
59:16
would
59:17
be
59:17
a
59:17
good
59:17
gotcha.
59:18
And
59:18
it
59:18
would
59:18
also
59:19
kind
59:19
of
59:19
like.
59:20
Okay,
59:20
it's
59:21
going
59:21
to
59:22
demolish
59:22
that
59:23
sense
59:23
of
59:24
security
59:24
that
59:24
we
59:24
have.
59:25
I
59:25
think
59:25
still,
59:26
it
59:26
would
59:26
still
59:26
work
59:27
because
59:27
you
59:28
dragged
59:28
it.
59:28
Okay,
59:29
but
59:29
when's
59:29
he
59:29
actually
59:30
gonna
59:30
do
59:30
it?
59:30
Now,
59:31
like,
59:31
we'll
59:31
still
59:32
be
59:32
nervous.
59:32
Oh,
59:33
that's
59:33
true.
59:35
It's
59:35
like,
59:35
I
59:35
don't
59:35
know.
59:36
It's
59:36
like,
59:36
do
59:36
we.
59:36
Do
59:36
we.
59:37
Do
59:37
we
59:37
want
59:37
to
59:37
keep
59:38
this
59:38
one?
59:38
Or
59:38
are
59:38
we
59:39
gonna
59:39
wait
59:39
down
59:39
the
59:39
line
59:40
for
59:40
an
59:40
even
59:40
worse
59:41
death?
59:41
Like,
59:42
I
59:42
don't
59:42
know.
59:42
But,
59:42
like,
59:43
but,
59:43
but
59:43
see,
59:44
those
59:44
are
59:44
the
59:44
questions
59:44
that
59:45
I'm
59:45
having
59:45
now
59:46
because
59:46
you
59:46
literally
59:47
killed
59:47
him.
59:47
Like,
59:47
you
59:48
killed
59:48
him.
59:48
You
59:49
killed
59:49
him
59:50
like
59:50
he's
59:51
dead.
59:51
Like
59:52
he
59:52
did.
59:53
You
59:54
can
59:54
be
59:54
totally
59:55
telling
59:55
the
59:55
truth
59:56
in
59:56
all
59:56
of
59:57
these
59:57
articles
59:57
and
59:58
saying,
59:58
I'm
59:58
not
59:59
going
59:59
to
59:59
mislead
59:59
you.
59:59
He's
1:00:00
dead.
1:00:00
He
1:00:01
can
1:00:01
be
1:00:01
dead.
1:00:02
Yes.
1:00:03
Was
1:00:03
dead
1:00:03
for
1:00:03
three
1:00:03
minutes.
1:00:04
Bobby
1:00:04
was
1:00:04
dead
1:00:05
for
1:00:05
14
1:00:05
minutes
1:00:06
without
1:00:06
brain
1:00:06
damage.
1:00:07
Hello,
1:00:07
realism.
1:00:10
So
1:00:10
real.
1:00:11
I
1:00:12
believe
1:00:12
you,
1:00:12
Tim.
1:00:12
He's
1:00:12
dead.
1:00:13
I
1:00:13
believe
1:00:13
you.
1:00:14
So
1:00:14
you
1:00:15
can.
1:00:15
You
1:00:15
can
1:00:15
be
1:00:16
truthful
1:00:16
in
1:00:16
saying
1:00:17
he's
1:00:17
dead
1:00:17
and
1:00:18
then
1:00:18
have
1:00:18
him
1:00:19
be
1:00:20
revived,
1:00:20
have
1:00:21
him
1:00:21
be
1:00:21
resurrected.
1:00:22
And
1:00:22
you
1:00:22
can
1:00:22
even
1:00:23
still,
1:00:23
like,
1:00:23
have,
1:00:24
like,
1:00:25
these
1:00:25
last
1:00:25
three
1:00:26
episodes
1:00:26
or
1:00:26
whatever,
1:00:28
have
1:00:28
the
1:00:28
other
1:00:29
characters
1:00:29
be
1:00:30
reactive
1:00:31
and
1:00:31
trying
1:00:31
to
1:00:31
live
1:00:32
in
1:00:32
a
1:00:32
world
1:00:32
without
1:00:33
Bobby.
1:00:33
Understand
1:00:34
that
1:00:34
they
1:00:35
can.
1:00:35
Their
1:00:36
understanding
1:00:37
that
1:00:37
they
1:00:37
can
1:00:38
live
1:00:38
without
1:00:38
him,
1:00:39
but
1:00:39
also
1:00:39
just
1:00:39
don't
1:00:40
want
1:00:40
to.
1:00:40
They
1:00:41
don't
1:00:41
want
1:00:41
to,
1:00:42
but
1:00:42
also
1:00:43
realize
1:00:44
how
1:00:44
much
1:00:45
he
1:00:45
means
1:00:46
to
1:00:46
them.
1:00:46
Like,
1:00:47
really
1:00:47
have
1:00:47
that,
1:00:48
like,
1:00:48
kind
1:00:48
of
1:00:48
gravitas
1:00:49
of,
1:00:50
like,
1:00:50
you
1:00:50
know,
1:00:50
sometimes
1:00:51
absence
1:00:52
makes
1:00:52
the
1:00:52
heart
1:00:52
grow
1:00:52
fonder
1:00:53
or
1:00:53
something
1:00:53
like
1:00:53
that
1:00:54
distance,
1:00:55
you
1:00:55
know,
1:00:56
whatever
1:00:57
those
1:00:57
sayings
1:00:57
are,
1:00:58
like
1:00:59
having
1:00:59
a
1:01:00
newfound
1:01:01
appreciation
1:01:03
for
1:01:03
what
1:01:04
Bobby
1:01:05
means
1:01:05
to
1:01:05
everybody.
1:01:06
You
1:01:06
can
1:01:06
still
1:01:07
have
1:01:07
that
1:01:07
and
1:01:07
still
1:01:08
bring
1:01:08
him
1:01:08
back.
1:01:08
And
1:01:09
they
1:01:09
will
1:01:09
be
1:01:09
all
1:01:10
the
1:01:10
more
1:01:10
gracious.
1:01:11
Gracious
1:01:11
and,
1:01:11
like,
1:01:12
understanding
1:01:13
and,
1:01:15
like,
1:01:15
appreciative
1:01:16
and
1:01:17
not
1:01:17
take
1:01:17
any.
1:01:17
Not
1:01:18
take
1:01:19
life
1:01:19
for
1:01:20
granted.
1:01:20
Like,
1:01:20
you
1:01:21
want.
1:01:21
You
1:01:21
want
1:01:21
the
1:01:21
characters
1:01:22
to
1:01:22
go
1:01:22
through
1:01:23
grief,
1:01:23
but
1:01:23
also
1:01:24
come
1:01:24
out
1:01:24
the
1:01:24
other
1:01:24
side
1:01:25
with,
1:01:25
like,
1:01:27
gratitude.
1:01:28
This
1:01:28
is
1:01:28
a
1:01:28
perfectly
1:01:29
fine
1:01:29
way
1:01:29
to
1:01:29
do
1:01:30
it.
1:01:30
Yeah.
1:01:30
To
1:01:30
pull
1:01:31
him
1:01:31
back
1:01:31
from
1:01:31
the
1:01:31
brink
1:01:32
of
1:01:32
death.
1:01:32
And
1:01:33
you
1:01:33
still
1:01:33
get.
1:01:33
You
1:01:34
still
1:01:34
get
1:01:34
that,
1:01:34
like,
1:01:35
gravitas
1:01:35
and
1:01:35
that
1:01:36
seriousness.
1:01:36
And
1:01:36
even
1:01:37
if
1:01:37
you
1:01:37
were
1:01:37
like,
1:01:38
I
1:01:38
just
1:01:38
don't
1:01:38
want
1:01:39
him
1:01:39
to
1:01:39
be
1:01:39
the
1:01:39
captain
1:01:39
of
1:01:39
the
1:01:40
118
1:01:40
anymore
1:01:40
because
1:01:41
I
1:01:41
want
1:01:41
to
1:01:41
tell
1:01:41
the
1:01:41
stories
1:01:42
that
1:01:42
would
1:01:43
be
1:01:43
told.
1:01:43
If
1:01:43
he
1:01:43
is
1:01:43
not
1:01:44
the
1:01:44
captain
1:01:44
anymore,
1:01:45
guess
1:01:45
what?
1:01:45
You
1:01:46
can
1:01:46
still
1:01:46
do
1:01:46
that.
1:01:47
Why?
1:01:47
Because
1:01:47
you're
1:01:48
in
1:01:48
charge.
1:01:49
So
1:01:49
you
1:01:50
could
1:01:50
do
1:01:50
things
1:01:50
like
1:01:51
bring
1:01:51
him
1:01:51
back
1:01:52
and
1:01:52
he
1:01:53
is
1:01:53
so,
1:01:54
like,
1:01:54
shaken
1:01:54
by
1:01:55
the
1:01:55
experience
1:01:55
that
1:01:56
he
1:01:56
doesn't
1:01:56
want
1:01:56
to,
1:01:57
like,
1:01:57
put
1:01:58
himself
1:01:58
in
1:01:58
danger
1:01:58
anymore
1:01:59
for
1:01:59
Athena's
1:01:59
sake.
1:02:00
Or
1:02:00
maybe
1:02:01
he's
1:02:01
injured
1:02:02
and
1:02:02
he.
1:02:02
Maybe
1:02:03
he's
1:02:03
Immunocompromised
1:02:04
now
1:02:04
because
1:02:04
of
1:02:04
this.
1:02:05
Maybe
1:02:05
he's
1:02:06
injured,
1:02:07
has
1:02:08
some
1:02:08
sort
1:02:08
of
1:02:09
disability
1:02:10
that
1:02:10
keeps
1:02:10
him
1:02:11
from
1:02:11
being
1:02:12
an
1:02:12
active
1:02:12
firefighter.
1:02:13
So
1:02:14
maybe
1:02:15
we
1:02:15
see
1:02:15
him
1:02:15
in
1:02:15
a
1:02:16
different
1:02:16
position
1:02:16
there.
1:02:16
Maybe
1:02:17
he
1:02:17
retires
1:02:18
and
1:02:18
then
1:02:19
if
1:02:19
he
1:02:20
stays
1:02:20
as
1:02:20
a
1:02:20
season
1:02:21
regular
1:02:21
then
1:02:21
there's
1:02:21
a
1:02:22
lot
1:02:22
of
1:02:22
cool
1:02:22
stories
1:02:23
that
1:02:23
we
1:02:23
can
1:02:23
still
1:02:23
explore
1:02:23
there.
1:02:24
It
1:02:24
would
1:02:24
be
1:02:24
really
1:02:24
cool
1:02:25
to
1:02:25
see
1:02:25
a
1:02:25
firefighter
1:02:26
from
1:02:26
this
1:02:27
show
1:02:27
learn
1:02:28
how
1:02:28
to
1:02:28
find
1:02:29
purpose
1:02:29
in
1:02:29
a
1:02:29
different
1:02:30
profession.
1:02:31
Which
1:02:31
I
1:02:31
feel
1:02:32
like
1:02:32
was
1:02:32
kind
1:02:32
of
1:02:33
touched
1:02:33
upon
1:02:34
even
1:02:34
in
1:02:35
the
1:02:36
finale
1:02:36
of
1:02:36
season
1:02:36
two
1:02:37
or
1:02:37
early
1:02:37
season
1:02:37
three
1:02:38
with
1:02:38
Buck
1:02:39
and.
1:02:39
But,
1:02:40
but
1:02:40
it's
1:02:40
never
1:02:40
find
1:02:40
a
1:02:41
relative
1:02:41
resolution.
1:02:41
It's
1:02:42
just
1:02:42
like
1:02:42
people
1:02:42
are
1:02:43
just
1:02:43
like,
1:02:43
no,
1:02:43
I
1:02:43
would
1:02:43
hate
1:02:43
my
1:02:44
fudgeing
1:02:44
life
1:02:44
and
1:02:44
it
1:02:44
would
1:02:45
have
1:02:45
no
1:02:45
purpose.
1:02:45
And
1:02:46
Bobby
1:02:46
is
1:02:46
in
1:02:46
such
1:02:47
a
1:02:47
different
1:02:47
place
1:02:47
than
1:02:48
Buck
1:02:48
was
1:02:48
at
1:02:48
that
1:02:48
point
1:02:49
because
1:02:49
Buck
1:02:49
was
1:02:49
like,
1:02:50
the
1:02:50
job
1:02:50
is
1:02:51
my
1:02:51
life.
1:02:51
Bobby's
1:02:52
not
1:02:52
like
1:02:53
that.
1:02:53
So
1:02:53
it
1:02:53
would
1:02:54
be
1:02:54
really
1:02:54
interesting
1:02:54
to
1:02:55
see.
1:02:55
It
1:02:55
would
1:02:55
be
1:02:55
a
1:02:56
perfect,
1:02:56
like
1:02:56
a
1:02:57
good,
1:02:57
perfect
1:02:58
example
1:02:58
or
1:02:58
a
1:02:59
model
1:02:59
like,
1:02:59
of
1:02:59
like
1:03:00
the
1:03:00
after.
1:03:01
Like
1:03:01
when
1:03:01
even
1:03:02
everyone
1:03:02
else
1:03:03
retires
1:03:03
the
1:03:04
118,
1:03:04
like
1:03:04
whenever
1:03:05
we
1:03:05
get.
1:03:05
Well,
1:03:06
if
1:03:07
we
1:03:07
ever
1:03:07
get
1:03:07
to
1:03:07
that.
1:03:08
Point,
1:03:08
if
1:03:08
they
1:03:09
ever
1:03:09
live
1:03:09
long
1:03:10
enough.
1:03:10
To
1:03:10
get
1:03:11
there
1:03:11
now
1:03:11
or
1:03:12
the
1:03:12
show
1:03:12
lasts
1:03:12
long
1:03:13
enough.
1:03:15
But
1:03:15
yeah,
1:03:15
it,
1:03:15
it
1:03:16
would
1:03:16
be,
1:03:16
it
1:03:16
would
1:03:16
be
1:03:16
a
1:03:17
great.
1:03:18
What
1:03:18
you
1:03:19
said
1:03:19
model
1:03:19
to
1:03:20
show
1:03:20
that
1:03:20
there
1:03:21
can
1:03:21
be
1:03:21
life
1:03:22
outside
1:03:23
of
1:03:23
being
1:03:24
a
1:03:24
first
1:03:24
responder.
1:03:25
Like
1:03:25
like
1:03:26
you've
1:03:26
done
1:03:26
your
1:03:26
civic
1:03:27
duty
1:03:28
and
1:03:28
of.
1:03:29
Of
1:03:29
serving
1:03:30
the
1:03:30
public
1:03:31
and
1:03:31
now
1:03:31
you
1:03:31
get
1:03:32
to
1:03:32
be
1:03:32
rewarded
1:03:32
with
1:03:33
like
1:03:33
retirement
1:03:34
and
1:03:34
happiness
1:03:36
and
1:03:36
whatever.
1:03:37
And
1:03:37
even
1:03:38
if
1:03:38
you
1:03:38
didn't
1:03:38
want
1:03:38
him
1:03:39
to
1:03:39
have
1:03:39
like
1:03:40
retired
1:03:40
or
1:03:41
injured
1:03:41
or
1:03:42
immunocompromised
1:03:42
or
1:03:43
whatever,
1:03:43
you
1:03:43
could
1:03:44
also
1:03:44
have
1:03:45
Bobby
1:03:45
still
1:03:46
stay
1:03:46
within
1:03:46
the
1:03:46
show
1:03:47
and
1:03:47
not
1:03:48
necessarily
1:03:48
be
1:03:48
a
1:03:49
season
1:03:49
regular,
1:03:50
but
1:03:50
a
1:03:50
guest,
1:03:50
like
1:03:51
step
1:03:52
back
1:03:52
as.
1:03:54
And
1:03:54
be
1:03:54
a
1:03:55
guest
1:03:55
star
1:03:55
that
1:03:56
comes
1:03:56
in
1:03:56
every
1:03:57
so
1:03:57
often.
1:03:57
By
1:03:58
having
1:03:58
Bobby
1:03:59
either
1:04:00
again
1:04:01
be
1:04:01
retired
1:04:01
or
1:04:02
like,
1:04:02
I
1:04:02
don't
1:04:02
know,
1:04:03
promoted
1:04:03
to
1:04:03
chief
1:04:04
so
1:04:04
he's
1:04:04
not
1:04:05
go
1:04:05
work
1:04:05
at
1:04:06
the
1:04:06
Academy
1:04:06
or
1:04:07
the
1:04:07
like
1:04:07
or
1:04:07
in
1:04:08
charge
1:04:08
of
1:04:08
the
1:04:08
Academy.
1:04:09
So
1:04:09
he's
1:04:09
not
1:04:09
like
1:04:09
in
1:04:10
charge
1:04:10
of
1:04:10
the
1:04:10
118
1:04:11
right
1:04:11
now,
1:04:12
but
1:04:12
he's
1:04:12
still
1:04:13
in
1:04:13
the,
1:04:13
in
1:04:14
the,
1:04:15
in
1:04:16
the
1:04:16
world,
1:04:16
in
1:04:17
the
1:04:17
sphere,
1:04:18
in
1:04:18
the
1:04:18
life,
1:04:19
but
1:04:19
not
1:04:20
all
1:04:20
the
1:04:20
time.
1:04:21
So.
1:04:21
So
1:04:21
you
1:04:22
can
1:04:22
still
1:04:22
have
1:04:22
Bobby
1:04:23
be
1:04:23
around,
1:04:24
be
1:04:24
a
1:04:24
presence,
1:04:25
but
1:04:26
not
1:04:26
have
1:04:26
to
1:04:26
physically
1:04:27
be
1:04:27
in
1:04:27
every
1:04:28
episode.
1:04:28
Which
1:04:29
is
1:04:29
I
1:04:29
think
1:04:29
the,
1:04:30
the
1:04:30
solution
1:04:31
that
1:04:31
I
1:04:31
would
1:04:31
have
1:04:33
preferred
1:04:33
and
1:04:34
would
1:04:35
like
1:04:35
propose
1:04:36
if
1:04:36
Peter
1:04:37
Krausa
1:04:37
was
1:04:37
saying,
1:04:38
like,
1:04:38
I
1:04:39
feel
1:04:39
like
1:04:39
it's
1:04:39
time
1:04:39
to
1:04:39
take
1:04:40
a
1:04:40
step
1:04:40
back.
1:04:40
I'm
1:04:40
like,
1:04:40
great,
1:04:41
be,
1:04:42
be
1:04:42
a
1:04:42
guest
1:04:42
star
1:04:42
and
1:04:42
come
1:04:43
in
1:04:43
at
1:04:43
like
1:04:43
maybe
1:04:44
the
1:04:44
opening
1:04:44
emergency,
1:04:45
the
1:04:45
closing
1:04:45
Emergency
1:04:46
and
1:04:46
maybe
1:04:46
like
1:04:46
a
1:04:47
couple.
1:04:48
A
1:04:48
couple
1:04:49
appearances
1:04:50
scattered
1:04:50
throughout
1:04:51
the
1:04:51
season.
1:04:51
Yeah.
1:04:51
Especially
1:04:52
for
1:04:52
like
1:04:52
special
1:04:53
moments
1:04:53
for
1:04:53
other
1:04:53
characters.
1:04:55
We
1:04:55
keep
1:04:55
talking
1:04:56
about
1:04:56
like
1:04:56
the.
1:04:57
Well
1:04:58
walking
1:04:58
Buck
1:04:59
down
1:04:59
the
1:04:59
aisle
1:05:00
or
1:05:00
something
1:05:00
like.
1:05:00
Or
1:05:01
officiating
1:05:01
the
1:05:01
wedding.
1:05:01
Yeah.
1:05:04
I
1:05:04
don't
1:05:04
know.
1:05:05
He
1:05:05
could
1:05:05
be
1:05:05
like
1:05:05
a
1:05:05
godfather
1:05:06
to
1:05:06
like
1:05:06
their.
1:05:07
To
1:05:07
Madden's
1:05:08
new
1:05:08
kid.
1:05:10
Like,
1:05:10
there's
1:05:10
so
1:05:11
like
1:05:11
he.
1:05:11
He
1:05:12
can
1:05:12
be
1:05:12
in
1:05:12
those
1:05:13
special
1:05:13
like
1:05:14
moments
1:05:14
or
1:05:15
episodes
1:05:15
because
1:05:16
like,
1:05:16
again,
1:05:16
this
1:05:17
is
1:05:17
the
1:05:17
found
1:05:18
family.
1:05:18
Like,
1:05:19
killing
1:05:19
him
1:05:19
is
1:05:20
just.
1:05:20
I
1:05:20
don't
1:05:21
have
1:05:21
words,
1:05:21
you
1:05:21
know,
1:05:22
you.
1:05:22
Can'T
1:05:22
take
1:05:22
that
1:05:22
back.
1:05:23
Hey,
1:05:23
it's
1:05:24
too
1:05:24
final.
1:05:24
Hey,
1:05:24
remember
1:05:25
when
1:05:25
you
1:05:25
killed
1:05:26
Shannon
1:05:27
and
1:05:27
you've
1:05:27
regretted
1:05:28
that
1:05:28
ever
1:05:29
since.
1:05:29
I'm
1:05:30
gonna
1:05:30
hold
1:05:30
your
1:05:30
hand
1:05:31
while
1:05:31
I
1:05:31
tell
1:05:31
you
1:05:31
this.
1:05:32
I
1:05:32
think
1:05:32
you're
1:05:32
gonna
1:05:32
regret
1:05:33
this.
1:05:34
So
1:05:34
this
1:05:35
is
1:05:35
just
1:05:35
bargaining
1:05:36
with
1:05:36
you,
1:05:36
giving
1:05:37
you
1:05:37
some
1:05:37
ideas.
1:05:38
Yeah.
1:05:38
That
1:05:39
like,
1:05:39
we
1:05:39
just
1:05:40
think
1:05:40
that
1:05:40
you
1:05:40
could
1:05:41
use
1:05:41
to
1:05:42
maybe.
1:05:42
Here's
1:05:43
an
1:05:43
alternative.
1:05:43
Get
1:05:43
yourself
1:05:44
out
1:05:44
of
1:05:44
this
1:05:44
hole.
1:05:45
Also,
1:05:46
just
1:05:46
like
1:05:46
one
1:05:47
final
1:05:47
thing.
1:05:48
You
1:05:48
could.
1:05:49
You
1:05:49
could
1:05:49
still.
1:05:49
You
1:05:50
could
1:05:50
still
1:05:50
give
1:05:51
us
1:05:51
a
1:05:51
flashback
1:05:52
scene
1:05:52
where
1:05:52
Eddie
1:05:52
finds
1:05:53
out.
1:05:53
That's
1:05:53
fine
1:05:53
too.
1:05:54
Or
1:05:54
else
1:05:55
non
1:05:55
threatening
1:05:57
mild
1:05:58
threat.
1:05:59
That's
1:05:59
that
1:06:00
me
1:06:00
depresso.
1:06:01
That's
1:06:01
that
1:06:01
us
1:06:02
depresso.
1:06:03
Yeah,
1:06:04
that's.
1:06:04
That's
1:06:04
the
1:06:05
whole.
1:06:05
Not
1:06:05
even
1:06:06
just
1:06:06
the
1:06:06
fandom.
1:06:06
That's
1:06:06
everyone
1:06:07
who
1:06:07
watches
1:06:07
this
1:06:07
show
1:06:08
right
1:06:08
now.
1:06:09
Everyone's
1:06:10
depressed.
1:06:10
I
1:06:11
don't
1:06:11
think
1:06:11
anybody's
1:06:11
like,
1:06:12
well,
1:06:12
nobody's
1:06:13
happy.
1:06:13
No.
1:06:14
But
1:06:14
I
1:06:14
don't
1:06:14
think
1:06:14
anybody
1:06:15
is
1:06:15
like,
1:06:15
not
1:06:16
sad.
1:06:17
All
1:06:17
right,
1:06:17
so
1:06:18
talking
1:06:19
about
1:06:19
being
1:06:19
depressed,
1:06:20
these
1:06:20
are
1:06:20
real
1:06:21
emotions
1:06:22
for
1:06:22
characters
1:06:23
that
1:06:23
have
1:06:24
felt
1:06:24
so
1:06:24
real.
1:06:25
It's
1:06:25
like
1:06:25
family.
1:06:26
So
1:06:26
like,
1:06:27
again,
1:06:27
I.
1:06:28
With
1:06:28
what
1:06:28
I
1:06:29
was
1:06:29
saying
1:06:29
earlier
1:06:29
about
1:06:30
how
1:06:30
the
1:06:31
entire
1:06:31
like
1:06:32
base
1:06:32
of
1:06:33
911
1:06:34
as
1:06:34
a
1:06:34
show
1:06:35
is
1:06:35
the
1:06:35
characters
1:06:36
and
1:06:36
how
1:06:38
we
1:06:38
as
1:06:38
the
1:06:38
audience
1:06:39
are
1:06:39
able
1:06:39
to
1:06:39
empathize
1:06:40
with
1:06:40
the
1:06:40
characters.
1:06:41
So
1:06:41
like,
1:06:41
as
1:06:42
these
1:06:42
characters
1:06:42
are
1:06:43
experiencing
1:06:43
these.
1:06:44
These
1:06:44
emotions,
1:06:45
so
1:06:45
are
1:06:45
we.
1:06:46
And
1:06:46
it's
1:06:46
very
1:06:46
real.
1:06:48
Because,
1:06:49
like,
1:06:49
the
1:06:50
body
1:06:50
doesn't
1:06:51
know
1:06:52
that
1:06:52
you're
1:06:52
crying
1:06:53
over
1:06:53
a
1:06:53
fictional
1:06:54
character.
1:06:55
The
1:06:55
body
1:06:55
doesn't
1:06:55
know
1:06:56
that
1:06:56
it's
1:06:56
a
1:06:56
fictional
1:06:57
character,
1:06:58
not
1:06:58
a
1:06:58
real
1:06:58
person
1:06:59
who
1:06:59
has
1:06:59
died.
1:07:00
It
1:07:00
feels
1:07:01
the
1:07:01
same.
1:07:02
It
1:07:02
feels
1:07:02
the
1:07:03
same
1:07:03
in
1:07:03
the
1:07:03
body
1:07:04
and
1:07:04
it
1:07:04
emits
1:07:05
these
1:07:05
same,
1:07:06
like,
1:07:07
emotions
1:07:07
and
1:07:08
these
1:07:08
same.
1:07:09
It
1:07:10
activates
1:07:10
the
1:07:11
same
1:07:11
part
1:07:11
of
1:07:11
the
1:07:11
nervous
1:07:12
system
1:07:12
as
1:07:13
if
1:07:13
a
1:07:13
real
1:07:14
person
1:07:14
that
1:07:14
we
1:07:14
know
1:07:15
has
1:07:16
just
1:07:16
died
1:07:16
or
1:07:16
something
1:07:17
terrible,
1:07:17
God
1:07:17
forbid,
1:07:18
has
1:07:18
happened.
1:07:19
Right.
1:07:20
The
1:07:20
nervous
1:07:20
system
1:07:21
can't
1:07:22
differentiate
1:07:23
between
1:07:24
real
1:07:24
and
1:07:25
fictional.
1:07:25
So
1:07:25
it
1:07:26
is
1:07:26
all
1:07:26
very
1:07:26
the
1:07:27
same.
1:07:27
And
1:07:27
some
1:07:28
of
1:07:28
our
1:07:28
nervous
1:07:28
systems
1:07:29
really
1:07:29
can't
1:07:29
differentiate
1:07:30
anyway.
1:07:30
Like,
1:07:31
I
1:07:31
have
1:07:31
fibroids
1:07:32
and
1:07:32
I
1:07:32
have
1:07:32
a
1:07:32
fibro
1:07:33
flare
1:07:33
up
1:07:33
from
1:07:34
this
1:07:34
because
1:07:35
I'm
1:07:35
so
1:07:35
Stressed.
1:07:36
Oh,
1:07:36
I'm
1:07:36
so
1:07:37
sorry.
1:07:37
Yeah,
1:07:37
yeah,
1:07:38
this.
1:07:38
The
1:07:38
stress.
1:07:38
The
1:07:39
stress
1:07:39
has
1:07:39
been
1:07:40
so
1:07:40
high.
1:07:41
So,
1:07:42
you
1:07:43
know,
1:07:43
real
1:07:44
audience
1:07:44
members.
1:07:45
There
1:07:45
are
1:07:46
real
1:07:46
audience
1:07:46
members
1:07:47
who,
1:07:48
like,
1:07:48
had
1:07:48
this
1:07:49
show
1:07:49
be
1:07:49
like,
1:07:50
their
1:07:50
comfort
1:07:50
show.
1:07:51
And,
1:07:51
like,
1:07:51
you
1:07:52
can't.
1:07:53
Because
1:07:53
of
1:07:53
all
1:07:53
this,
1:07:53
like,
1:07:54
you.
1:07:54
You
1:07:55
really
1:07:55
can't
1:07:55
feel
1:07:56
like
1:07:56
you
1:07:56
can
1:07:56
trust
1:07:56
it
1:07:57
any
1:07:57
longer.
1:07:57
I
1:07:57
feel
1:07:57
like
1:07:57
it's.
1:07:58
It's
1:07:59
damaged
1:08:00
that
1:08:00
trust
1:08:02
to
1:08:03
a
1:08:03
point
1:08:03
that.
1:08:04
Yeah,
1:08:04
you
1:08:04
just.
1:08:05
I
1:08:05
can't.
1:08:05
I
1:08:05
don't
1:08:06
know.
1:08:06
I
1:08:06
don't
1:08:07
know
1:08:07
if
1:08:07
I
1:08:07
can
1:08:07
trust
1:08:07
it
1:08:07
at
1:08:08
this
1:08:08
point.
1:08:08
Me
1:08:09
personally,
1:08:09
and
1:08:09
I
1:08:09
know
1:08:10
other
1:08:10
people
1:08:10
are
1:08:10
also
1:08:11
like
1:08:12
that.
1:08:13
They
1:08:13
don't
1:08:13
know
1:08:14
if
1:08:14
they're
1:08:14
going
1:08:14
to
1:08:14
continue
1:08:14
watching.
1:08:15
They
1:08:15
don't
1:08:15
know
1:08:17
how
1:08:17
to
1:08:17
feel
1:08:17
about
1:08:18
it.
1:08:18
They
1:08:18
don't
1:08:18
know
1:08:18
how
1:08:18
the.
1:08:19
We
1:08:20
just
1:08:20
don't
1:08:20
know.
1:08:20
We're
1:08:20
in
1:08:20
a
1:08:21
place
1:08:21
of,
1:08:21
like,
1:08:21
so
1:08:21
much
1:08:21
uncertainty,
1:08:22
and,
1:08:22
like,
1:08:23
a
1:08:23
lot
1:08:23
of
1:08:23
it
1:08:23
is
1:08:24
not
1:08:24
like.
1:08:24
But,
1:08:25
like,
1:08:25
there's
1:08:25
no
1:08:25
positive
1:08:26
feelings
1:08:26
out
1:08:26
of
1:08:26
this.
1:08:27
Out
1:08:27
of
1:08:27
this.
1:08:28
We
1:08:28
had
1:08:28
a
1:08:28
couple
1:08:29
people
1:08:29
in
1:08:30
our
1:08:30
livestream
1:08:30
that.
1:08:31
That
1:08:31
made
1:08:31
me
1:08:31
think
1:08:32
about
1:08:32
these
1:08:32
things
1:08:33
that
1:08:33
I
1:08:33
probably
1:08:34
might
1:08:34
have
1:08:34
gotten
1:08:35
to
1:08:35
eventually.
1:08:36
But
1:08:36
these
1:08:37
are
1:08:37
real
1:08:37
people,
1:08:37
and
1:08:38
these
1:08:38
aren't
1:08:38
the
1:08:38
only
1:08:38
people,
1:08:39
I'm
1:08:39
sure,
1:08:39
who
1:08:39
are
1:08:39
going
1:08:39
through
1:08:40
this.
1:08:40
But,
1:08:40
like,
1:08:41
think
1:08:41
about.
1:08:42
Everyone
1:08:42
is
1:08:43
experiencing
1:08:44
some
1:08:44
level
1:08:45
of
1:08:45
sadness
1:08:45
or
1:08:46
depression
1:08:46
from
1:08:46
this,
1:08:47
who's
1:08:47
a
1:08:47
fan
1:08:47
of
1:08:47
the
1:08:48
show,
1:08:48
and
1:08:49
no
1:08:49
matter
1:08:49
what
1:08:49
feelings
1:08:50
you
1:08:50
are
1:08:50
having
1:08:51
right
1:08:51
now,
1:08:51
whether
1:08:52
what
1:08:52
st.
1:08:52
Whatever
1:08:52
stage
1:08:53
of
1:08:53
grief
1:08:53
you're
1:08:53
in,
1:08:53
like,
1:08:54
it's
1:08:54
all
1:08:54
valid,
1:08:55
but,
1:08:55
like,
1:08:55
I'm
1:08:55
just.
1:08:56
It
1:08:56
broke
1:08:56
my
1:08:57
heart
1:08:57
specifically
1:08:58
thinking
1:08:58
about
1:08:58
these
1:08:58
people,
1:08:59
thinking
1:08:59
about
1:09:00
people
1:09:00
who
1:09:00
have
1:09:00
lost
1:09:01
a
1:09:01
father
1:09:01
and
1:09:02
felt
1:09:02
like
1:09:02
they
1:09:03
could,
1:09:03
like,
1:09:03
refine
1:09:04
that
1:09:04
connection
1:09:04
with
1:09:05
Bobby,
1:09:05
and
1:09:06
that's
1:09:06
gone.
1:09:07
And
1:09:07
thinking
1:09:07
about
1:09:08
audience
1:09:08
members
1:09:09
who
1:09:10
are.
1:09:11
Are
1:09:11
widows
1:09:12
and
1:09:12
their
1:09:12
kids
1:09:13
lost
1:09:13
their
1:09:13
father.
1:09:15
Specifically,
1:09:15
someone
1:09:16
who
1:09:16
was
1:09:16
in
1:09:17
the
1:09:17
live
1:09:17
stream
1:09:17
said
1:09:18
that
1:09:19
they
1:09:19
watch
1:09:19
it
1:09:19
with
1:09:19
their
1:09:20
kids,
1:09:20
like
1:09:21
that
1:09:21
happen,
1:09:21
and
1:09:21
they
1:09:21
watch
1:09:21
it
1:09:21
with
1:09:22
their
1:09:22
kids.
1:09:22
Like,
1:09:23
it's
1:09:24
just.
1:09:24
I
1:09:24
don't
1:09:25
know.
1:09:25
It's
1:09:25
just
1:09:25
really.
1:09:26
It's
1:09:27
hard
1:09:27
to
1:09:27
find
1:09:27
an
1:09:27
upside
1:09:28
to
1:09:28
this,
1:09:29
like,
1:09:29
at
1:09:29
all.
1:09:30
It
1:09:30
really,
1:09:30
like,
1:09:31
I
1:09:31
can't.
1:09:31
As
1:09:31
you
1:09:31
can
1:09:32
tell
1:09:32
from
1:09:32
this
1:09:32
entire
1:09:32
episode
1:09:33
so
1:09:33
far,
1:09:33
it's
1:09:33
hard
1:09:34
to
1:09:34
find
1:09:34
an
1:09:34
upside.
1:09:34
But,
1:09:35
like,
1:09:35
when
1:09:35
you
1:09:36
start
1:09:36
thinking
1:09:36
about,
1:09:37
like,
1:09:37
the
1:09:37
real
1:09:37
impact
1:09:38
of,
1:09:38
like,
1:09:38
yeah,
1:09:39
the
1:09:39
characters
1:09:39
are
1:09:40
fictional,
1:09:40
but
1:09:40
the
1:09:40
people
1:09:41
who
1:09:41
love
1:09:41
this
1:09:41
show
1:09:42
are
1:09:42
real.
1:09:43
And
1:09:44
the.
1:09:44
The.
1:09:44
The
1:09:44
impact
1:09:45
that
1:09:46
people
1:09:47
feel
1:09:47
with.
1:09:48
With.
1:09:48
With
1:09:49
fictional
1:09:49
characters,
1:09:50
like,
1:09:50
the.
1:09:50
The.
1:09:51
The
1:09:51
connection
1:09:52
that
1:09:52
you
1:09:52
find
1:09:52
there
1:09:54
is
1:09:54
real.
1:09:55
So
1:09:56
that's
1:09:57
like
1:09:57
a
1:09:57
real
1:09:57
loss.
1:09:57
That's
1:09:58
another
1:09:58
real
1:09:58
loss
1:09:58
that
1:09:59
they've
1:09:59
already
1:10:00
had,
1:10:01
and
1:10:01
it's
1:10:01
taking
1:10:02
that
1:10:02
comfort
1:10:02
away
1:10:02
from
1:10:03
them.
1:10:03
And
1:10:04
then
1:10:04
we
1:10:05
have.
1:10:05
We've
1:10:06
seen
1:10:06
this
1:10:06
film
1:10:06
before,
1:10:07
and
1:10:07
we
1:10:07
didn't
1:10:07
like
1:10:07
the
1:10:07
ending.
1:10:08
We've.
1:10:09
The
1:10:09
three
1:10:09
of
1:10:10
us
1:10:10
have
1:10:10
been
1:10:10
in
1:10:10
fandoms
1:10:11
for
1:10:12
a
1:10:12
long
1:10:12
time.
1:10:13
We've
1:10:13
been
1:10:13
in
1:10:13
many
1:10:13
a
1:10:13
fandom.
1:10:14
We've
1:10:15
been
1:10:15
burned
1:10:16
by
1:10:16
a
1:10:16
lot
1:10:16
of
1:10:16
them,
1:10:17
most
1:10:17
of
1:10:17
them
1:10:19
in
1:10:19
one
1:10:20
way
1:10:20
or
1:10:20
another,
1:10:21
and
1:10:22
by.
1:10:23
By
1:10:23
major
1:10:23
character
1:10:24
death
1:10:25
specifically.
1:10:26
And
1:10:27
the
1:10:28
way
1:10:28
that
1:10:28
this
1:10:28
was
1:10:28
handled
1:10:29
has
1:10:29
triggered
1:10:30
us,
1:10:31
like,
1:10:32
our
1:10:32
experiences
1:10:33
with
1:10:33
past
1:10:33
runners
1:10:33
of
1:10:34
other
1:10:34
shows,
1:10:35
and
1:10:36
it's
1:10:36
made
1:10:36
us
1:10:37
feel,
1:10:37
like,
1:10:37
resigned
1:10:37
to,
1:10:37
like,
1:10:38
once
1:10:38
again
1:10:39
feel
1:10:40
weary
1:10:40
and
1:10:40
distrustful
1:10:41
and
1:10:42
despondent
1:10:42
because,
1:10:43
like,
1:10:43
we
1:10:43
can't
1:10:43
imagine
1:10:44
how
1:10:44
the
1:10:44
show
1:10:45
is
1:10:45
moving
1:10:45
forward
1:10:46
from
1:10:46
this
1:10:47
in
1:10:47
a
1:10:47
way
1:10:47
that's
1:10:47
positive
1:10:48
for
1:10:48
the
1:10:48
characters
1:10:49
and
1:10:49
the
1:10:49
audience.
1:10:51
And
1:10:51
that's
1:10:51
really
1:10:52
fucking
1:10:52
hard
1:10:52
from
1:10:52
us
1:10:53
because
1:10:53
we've
1:10:53
said
1:10:53
from
1:10:53
day
1:10:54
one
1:10:54
on
1:10:54
this
1:10:54
podcast
1:10:55
how
1:10:55
this
1:10:56
show
1:10:56
feels
1:10:57
like
1:10:57
healing
1:10:58
to
1:10:59
us
1:10:59
because
1:10:59
of
1:10:59
what
1:10:59
we
1:11:00
went
1:11:00
through
1:11:00
with
1:11:00
Supernatural
1:11:01
and,
1:11:01
yes,
1:11:02
because
1:11:02
of
1:11:02
the
1:11:02
Destiel
1:11:03
stuff.
1:11:03
But
1:11:04
just
1:11:04
overall,
1:11:04
like,
1:11:05
we
1:11:05
lost
1:11:05
our
1:11:05
father
1:11:06
figure
1:11:06
there.
1:11:07
Like,
1:11:07
we
1:11:07
lost
1:11:07
also
1:11:08
Bobby,
1:11:08
everyone
1:11:09
over
1:11:09
there.
1:11:10
That's
1:11:11
not
1:11:11
nice.
1:11:12
It's
1:11:12
not.
1:11:13
And
1:11:14
so
1:11:14
it.
1:11:14
This
1:11:14
is
1:11:14
really
1:11:15
hard.
1:11:15
We
1:11:15
know
1:11:15
this
1:11:15
is
1:11:16
really
1:11:16
hard
1:11:16
for
1:11:16
everyone,
1:11:16
but
1:11:16
it's
1:11:17
really
1:11:17
hard
1:11:17
for
1:11:17
people
1:11:17
who
1:11:18
have
1:11:18
gone
1:11:18
through
1:11:18
this
1:11:19
shit
1:11:19
before
1:11:20
and
1:11:21
who,
1:11:22
like,
1:11:22
we
1:11:22
know
1:11:22
a
1:11:22
lot
1:11:22
of
1:11:23
people
1:11:23
have.
1:11:23
Have
1:11:24
a
1:11:24
trust
1:11:24
issue
1:11:24
because
1:11:25
of
1:11:25
this
1:11:25
and,
1:11:25
like,
1:11:25
so
1:11:26
do
1:11:26
we.
1:11:26
But
1:11:27
I
1:11:27
think
1:11:27
we
1:11:27
found
1:11:28
a
1:11:28
lot
1:11:28
of.
1:11:28
Of
1:11:28
comfort
1:11:29
in
1:11:29
how
1:11:30
this
1:11:30
show
1:11:31
was
1:11:31
run.
1:11:32
Operated.
1:11:32
Yeah,
1:11:33
relief
1:11:34
almost.
1:11:35
And
1:11:35
relief.
1:11:36
Yes.
1:11:36
And
1:11:37
just
1:11:37
felt
1:11:37
like.
1:11:38
I
1:11:38
don't
1:11:38
want
1:11:38
to
1:11:38
say
1:11:39
safe,
1:11:39
because,
1:11:39
like,
1:11:40
obviously
1:11:40
there
1:11:40
were
1:11:41
still
1:11:41
stakes,
1:11:42
but,
1:11:42
like,
1:11:42
we
1:11:43
felt
1:11:43
safe
1:11:43
in
1:11:43
that.
1:11:44
Like,
1:11:44
we
1:11:44
could
1:11:44
trust
1:11:45
the
1:11:46
storytelling.
1:11:47
We
1:11:47
could
1:11:47
trust
1:11:47
it
1:11:48
and.
1:11:49
And
1:11:49
appreciate
1:11:50
where.
1:11:50
Where
1:11:50
it
1:11:51
was
1:11:51
leading
1:11:51
to.
1:11:52
Yes.
1:11:53
For
1:11:53
all
1:11:53
of
1:11:53
the
1:11:53
characters.
1:11:54
I
1:11:54
just
1:11:54
don't
1:11:55
know
1:11:55
what
1:11:56
that
1:11:56
is
1:11:56
going
1:11:56
to
1:11:56
look
1:11:57
like.
1:11:57
If
1:11:57
we
1:11:57
can
1:11:57
get
1:11:58
back
1:11:58
to
1:11:58
that
1:11:58
place,
1:11:59
you
1:12:00
know,
1:12:00
reserving
1:12:01
judgment
1:12:02
to
1:12:02
see
1:12:02
if
1:12:03
this.
1:12:03
They
1:12:03
stick
1:12:04
the
1:12:04
landing
1:12:05
with
1:12:05
him
1:12:05
just
1:12:05
being
1:12:06
dead.
1:12:06
Dead,
1:12:06
which,
1:12:06
like,
1:12:07
we're
1:12:07
pretty
1:12:07
certain
1:12:08
that
1:12:08
he
1:12:08
could
1:12:08
not
1:12:09
be.
1:12:09
So
1:12:09
this
1:12:10
could
1:12:10
be
1:12:10
moot,
1:12:10
but,
1:12:11
like,
1:12:11
if
1:12:11
he
1:12:11
is
1:12:12
dead,
1:12:12
how
1:12:12
does.
1:12:13
How
1:12:13
does
1:12:13
the
1:12:13
season
1:12:14
finish?
1:12:14
And
1:12:14
then
1:12:14
where
1:12:14
do
1:12:15
we
1:12:15
go
1:12:15
from
1:12:15
there?
1:12:15
Like,
1:12:15
we
1:12:16
just
1:12:16
don't.
1:12:16
Yeah,
1:12:17
we
1:12:17
don't
1:12:18
have
1:12:18
that
1:12:18
same
1:12:19
level
1:12:20
of
1:12:20
like,
1:12:21
Of.
1:12:21
Of
1:12:22
trust.
1:12:23
And,
1:12:23
like,
1:12:23
I
1:12:24
don't
1:12:24
like
1:12:24
feeling
1:12:24
that.
1:12:24
I
1:12:24
don't
1:12:24
like
1:12:25
feeling
1:12:25
weary
1:12:25
and
1:12:25
distrustful.
1:12:26
It's
1:12:26
one
1:12:27
of
1:12:27
the
1:12:27
many
1:12:27
reasons
1:12:27
that
1:12:28
I
1:12:28
love
1:12:28
this
1:12:28
fucking
1:12:29
show.
1:12:29
And
1:12:30
I'm
1:12:30
so
1:12:30
glad
1:12:30
that,
1:12:31
like,
1:12:31
that
1:12:32
Tim
1:12:32
was
1:12:32
back
1:12:33
and
1:12:33
that,
1:12:33
like,
1:12:34
we
1:12:34
started
1:12:34
a
1:12:34
podcast.
1:12:35
I
1:12:35
love
1:12:35
this
1:12:35
show
1:12:36
so
1:12:36
much.
1:12:36
I
1:12:36
love
1:12:37
how
1:12:38
pretty
1:12:38
much
1:12:38
everything
1:12:38
about
1:12:39
it
1:12:39
is
1:12:39
done
1:12:40
so
1:12:40
much
1:12:40
that
1:12:40
we
1:12:40
started
1:12:41
a
1:12:41
podcast
1:12:42
to
1:12:42
talk
1:12:43
about
1:12:43
it.
1:12:43
Yes.
1:12:44
At.
1:12:45
At
1:12:45
length.
1:12:46
At
1:12:46
much
1:12:46
length.
1:12:47
Yeah.
1:12:48
So
1:12:49
like,
1:12:49
like
1:12:49
with
1:12:49
that
1:12:50
being
1:12:50
said,
1:12:50
not
1:12:50
only
1:12:51
will
1:12:51
this,
1:12:52
not
1:12:52
only
1:12:52
does
1:12:52
this
1:12:52
change
1:12:53
things
1:12:53
for
1:12:54
the
1:12:54
audience
1:12:55
and
1:12:55
how,
1:12:56
how
1:12:56
the
1:12:57
trust
1:12:57
that
1:12:57
has
1:12:57
been
1:12:57
built
1:12:58
over
1:12:59
7,
1:12:59
8
1:12:59
years
1:13:00
for
1:13:00
some
1:13:00
people
1:13:01
who
1:13:01
have
1:13:01
been
1:13:01
there
1:13:01
from
1:13:02
the
1:13:02
beginning
1:13:02
or
1:13:03
just,
1:13:03
just
1:13:03
like
1:13:04
very
1:13:04
quickly
1:13:04
and
1:13:04
very
1:13:04
deeply
1:13:05
for
1:13:05
people
1:13:05
like
1:13:05
us,
1:13:06
but
1:13:06
this
1:13:07
will,
1:13:07
like
1:13:07
having
1:13:08
Bobby
1:13:08
be
1:13:09
perma
1:13:09
dead
1:13:10
will
1:13:11
irrevocably
1:13:12
change
1:13:13
the
1:13:13
show
1:13:14
and
1:13:14
inherently
1:13:15
the
1:13:15
trajectory
1:13:16
for
1:13:17
the
1:13:17
characters,
1:13:18
all
1:13:18
of
1:13:18
the
1:13:18
characters,
1:13:19
because
1:13:20
now
1:13:20
they're
1:13:20
going
1:13:21
to
1:13:21
have
1:13:21
to
1:13:21
wrestle
1:13:22
with
1:13:22
their
1:13:22
grief
1:13:23
for
1:13:24
not
1:13:24
only
1:13:24
the
1:13:24
rest
1:13:25
of
1:13:25
the
1:13:26
season,
1:13:26
which
1:13:26
we
1:13:27
know
1:13:27
they're
1:13:27
going
1:13:27
to
1:13:27
touch
1:13:27
a
1:13:28
lot
1:13:28
on,
1:13:28
but
1:13:28
like,
1:13:29
realistically,
1:13:30
if
1:13:30
we're
1:13:31
talking
1:13:31
about
1:13:31
realism
1:13:32
here.
1:13:33
Sorry,
1:13:33
I
1:13:34
keep
1:13:34
nailing
1:13:34
that
1:13:35
point.
1:13:36
But
1:13:36
so
1:13:37
not
1:13:37
only
1:13:37
for
1:13:37
the
1:13:37
rest
1:13:38
of
1:13:38
like
1:13:38
the
1:13:38
three
1:13:38
episodes
1:13:39
of
1:13:39
the
1:13:39
season,
1:13:40
but
1:13:40
for
1:13:40
the
1:13:40
rest
1:13:41
of
1:13:41
the
1:13:41
entire
1:13:42
show,
1:13:42
like,
1:13:43
because
1:13:44
grief
1:13:44
is
1:13:44
non
1:13:45
linear.
1:13:45
Like
1:13:46
grief
1:13:46
is
1:13:47
messy.
1:13:47
Like
1:13:48
as
1:13:48
someone
1:13:48
who
1:13:48
has
1:13:49
lost
1:13:49
a
1:13:49
parent,
1:13:50
like,
1:13:50
I
1:13:50
can
1:13:51
put
1:13:51
myself
1:13:51
in.
1:13:52
Sorry.
1:13:53
Don't
1:13:53
apologize.
1:13:54
Do
1:13:55
you
1:13:55
see
1:13:55
what
1:13:55
you're
1:13:55
doing,
1:13:56
Tim?
1:13:56
It's
1:13:57
not
1:13:57
very
1:13:57
nice.
1:13:58
I
1:13:58
thought
1:13:58
I
1:13:58
could
1:13:58
really
1:13:59
get
1:13:59
through
1:13:59
that.
1:14:01
Hang
1:14:01
on
1:14:01
one
1:14:01
second.
1:14:02
You're
1:14:02
okay.
1:14:03
I
1:14:03
can
1:14:03
reel
1:14:03
it.
1:14:03
I
1:14:03
can
1:14:04
reel
1:14:04
it
1:14:04
in.
1:14:04
I
1:14:05
mean,
1:14:05
you
1:14:05
can
1:14:05
talk
1:14:05
while
1:14:05
you're
1:14:06
crying.
1:14:06
You're
1:14:07
allowed
1:14:07
to
1:14:07
cry.
1:14:08
I
1:14:08
can't
1:14:08
really.
1:14:09
Oh,
1:14:10
Rachel's
1:14:11
gonna
1:14:11
make
1:14:11
me
1:14:11
cry.
1:14:12
Oh,
1:14:12
no.
1:14:12
I'm
1:14:12
sorry.
1:14:13
Are
1:14:13
you
1:14:13
a
1:14:14
sympathetic
1:14:14
crier?
1:14:15
Yeah,
1:14:15
maybe.
1:14:17
Well,
1:14:17
that's
1:14:18
what,
1:14:18
that's
1:14:18
what
1:14:18
gets
1:14:18
me.
1:14:18
That's
1:14:19
what
1:14:19
gets
1:14:19
me
1:14:19
into
1:14:19
this
1:14:20
mess
1:14:20
because
1:14:20
I
1:14:20
am
1:14:20
a
1:14:21
sympathetic
1:14:21
crier.
1:14:21
So
1:14:22
like,
1:14:22
for
1:14:22
someone
1:14:23
who
1:14:23
has
1:14:23
like
1:14:24
lost
1:14:24
a
1:14:24
parent,
1:14:25
I'm
1:14:26
so.
1:14:27
It's
1:14:27
so
1:14:28
easy
1:14:28
for
1:14:28
me
1:14:28
to
1:14:29
put
1:14:29
myself
1:14:29
in
1:14:30
like
1:14:30
the
1:14:30
place
1:14:31
of
1:14:31
these
1:14:31
characters
1:14:32
or
1:14:33
whoever
1:14:33
has
1:14:33
to.
1:14:34
Oops.
1:14:35
Or
1:14:35
whoever
1:14:35
has
1:14:35
to
1:14:36
react
1:14:36
to
1:14:36
this.
1:14:37
So
1:14:37
that's
1:14:37
what
1:14:38
I'm
1:14:38
talking
1:14:38
about
1:14:38
when
1:14:38
I'm
1:14:39
like
1:14:39
real
1:14:39
emotions
1:14:40
and.
1:14:40
Yeah,
1:14:41
like,
1:14:41
like
1:14:41
if
1:14:42
it
1:14:42
feels
1:14:42
real
1:14:43
to
1:14:44
me
1:14:44
for
1:14:44
them,
1:14:45
because
1:14:45
it's
1:14:45
been
1:14:45
real
1:14:46
for
1:14:46
me.
1:14:46
Yeah.
1:14:47
So
1:14:48
I
1:14:48
have
1:14:48
to
1:14:48
deal
1:14:48
with
1:14:49
that
1:14:49
the
1:14:49
rest
1:14:49
of
1:14:49
my
1:14:49
life.
1:14:50
Anyone
1:14:50
who's
1:14:50
lost
1:14:50
someone
1:14:51
has
1:14:51
to
1:14:51
deal
1:14:51
with
1:14:51
that
1:14:52
the
1:14:52
rest
1:14:52
of
1:14:52
their
1:14:52
life.
1:14:53
So
1:14:53
these
1:14:54
characters
1:14:54
also
1:14:54
have
1:14:55
to
1:14:55
deal
1:14:55
with
1:14:55
it
1:14:56
the
1:14:56
rest
1:14:56
of
1:14:56
their
1:14:57
fictional
1:14:57
lives
1:14:59
because
1:14:59
they're
1:14:59
not
1:15:00
just
1:15:00
gonna
1:15:00
get
1:15:01
over
1:15:01
it.
1:15:01
It's
1:15:01
going
1:15:01
to
1:15:01
be
1:15:01
a
1:15:02
part
1:15:02
of
1:15:02
them
1:15:03
for
1:15:03
the
1:15:03
rest
1:15:03
of
1:15:04
time.
1:15:04
And
1:15:04
if
1:15:04
it.
1:15:05
And
1:15:05
if
1:15:05
it
1:15:05
doesn't
1:15:06
factor
1:15:06
in
1:15:07
to
1:15:08
everything
1:15:08
that
1:15:09
they
1:15:09
do
1:15:10
at
1:15:10
some
1:15:10
point,
1:15:11
I
1:15:11
mean,
1:15:11
of
1:15:11
course
1:15:11
it's
1:15:12
not
1:15:12
always
1:15:12
going
1:15:12
to
1:15:12
be
1:15:12
like
1:15:13
the
1:15:13
biggest
1:15:13
thing,
1:15:14
but
1:15:14
it's
1:15:14
always
1:15:15
going
1:15:15
to
1:15:15
factor
1:15:15
into
1:15:15
everything
1:15:16
they
1:15:16
do.
1:15:16
And
1:15:17
if
1:15:17
it
1:15:17
doesn't,
1:15:18
that's
1:15:18
poor
1:15:18
writing.
1:15:20
So
1:15:20
Just
1:15:20
like,
1:15:21
generally,
1:15:22
this
1:15:22
creates,
1:15:23
like,
1:15:23
for
1:15:24
the
1:15:24
characters,
1:15:24
it
1:15:24
would
1:15:25
create
1:15:25
a
1:15:26
drastic
1:15:26
change
1:15:27
in,
1:15:27
like,
1:15:27
their
1:15:28
work
1:15:28
dynamics,
1:15:28
which
1:15:29
is
1:15:29
obvious
1:15:29
because,
1:15:30
like,
1:15:30
they
1:15:30
would.
1:15:31
They
1:15:31
need
1:15:31
a
1:15:32
captain,
1:15:32
but
1:15:33
also,
1:15:33
like,
1:15:33
on
1:15:33
a
1:15:33
very
1:15:34
personal
1:15:34
level,
1:15:34
because
1:15:35
this
1:15:36
would
1:15:36
change
1:15:36
the
1:15:36
show
1:15:37
on
1:15:37
a
1:15:38
molecular
1:15:39
level,
1:15:39
because
1:15:40
it
1:15:40
changes
1:15:41
who
1:15:42
these
1:15:42
characters
1:15:43
are.
1:15:43
Yeah,
1:15:44
I
1:15:44
did
1:15:44
it.
1:15:45
So
1:15:45
sorry.
1:15:46
You're
1:15:46
good.
1:15:46
Anything
1:15:47
else
1:15:47
about
1:15:48
depression?
1:15:48
Just
1:15:49
look
1:15:49
at
1:15:49
my
1:15:49
face.
1:15:51
I've
1:15:51
been
1:15:51
dissociating
1:15:52
most
1:15:52
of
1:15:53
the
1:15:53
day,
1:15:53
so
1:15:53
if
1:15:54
that
1:15:54
doesn't
1:15:54
scream
1:15:55
depression
1:15:55
to
1:15:55
you,
1:15:56
I
1:15:56
don't.
1:15:56
I
1:15:57
don't
1:15:57
know.
1:15:57
It
1:15:57
does.
1:15:58
I.
1:15:58
You
1:15:59
know,
1:15:59
I.
1:15:59
I
1:16:00
was
1:16:00
really
1:16:00
hoping
1:16:00
we
1:16:01
didn't.
1:16:01
We
1:16:01
could
1:16:01
move
1:16:02
past
1:16:02
characters
1:16:03
haunting
1:16:03
the
1:16:03
narrative.
1:16:05
Shannon.
1:16:06
Oh,
1:16:06
well,
1:16:07
we
1:16:07
will
1:16:07
never
1:16:07
be
1:16:08
now
1:16:09
with
1:16:09
Bobby.
1:16:10
Nope,
1:16:10
that'll
1:16:10
be
1:16:11
forever.
1:16:11
Just
1:16:11
when
1:16:12
you
1:16:12
thought
1:16:13
we'd
1:16:13
be
1:16:13
able
1:16:13
to
1:16:14
get
1:16:14
some
1:16:14
closure
1:16:15
for.
1:16:15
For
1:16:15
a
1:16:15
character
1:16:16
haunting
1:16:16
someone's
1:16:17
narrative.
1:16:17
Guess
1:16:18
again.
1:16:18
Again.
1:16:19
This
1:16:19
is
1:16:19
never
1:16:20
gonna.
1:16:20
Guess.
1:16:21
This
1:16:21
is
1:16:21
never
1:16:21
gonna
1:16:22
go
1:16:22
away.
1:16:22
I'm
1:16:22
not
1:16:22
gonna
1:16:23
let
1:16:23
this
1:16:23
one
1:16:23
go.
1:16:24
No.
1:16:24
So
1:16:25
the
1:16:25
last
1:16:25
thing
1:16:25
we
1:16:26
have
1:16:26
is
1:16:26
acceptance,
1:16:26
and
1:16:26
this
1:16:27
is
1:16:27
gonna
1:16:27
be
1:16:27
really
1:16:27
short
1:16:28
because
1:16:28
we
1:16:28
don't.
1:16:29
We
1:16:30
don't.
1:16:30
We
1:16:30
accept
1:16:30
it
1:16:31
in
1:16:31
the
1:16:31
way
1:16:31
that
1:16:32
we're
1:16:32
like,
1:16:32
well,
1:16:32
this
1:16:32
is
1:16:32
probably
1:16:33
real.
1:16:33
This
1:16:34
is
1:16:34
probably
1:16:34
real.
1:16:35
We
1:16:35
accept
1:16:35
that.
1:16:36
I
1:16:36
personally
1:16:37
am
1:16:37
trying
1:16:38
to
1:16:38
just
1:16:39
make
1:16:39
myself
1:16:40
be
1:16:40
as
1:16:41
certain
1:16:41
as
1:16:41
I
1:16:41
possibly
1:16:42
can
1:16:42
that
1:16:42
this
1:16:42
is
1:16:42
real
1:16:43
to
1:16:43
protect
1:16:44
myself.
1:16:45
And,
1:16:46
you
1:16:46
know,
1:16:46
that
1:16:47
way,
1:16:47
if
1:16:47
it's
1:16:47
not,
1:16:48
then
1:16:48
great.
1:16:48
But
1:16:49
I
1:16:49
can't
1:16:49
live
1:16:49
in
1:16:50
my,
1:16:50
like,
1:16:51
deluland
1:16:51
like
1:16:52
I
1:16:52
normally
1:16:52
would.
1:16:52
I
1:16:53
really
1:16:53
can't.
1:16:54
And
1:16:54
I
1:16:55
know
1:16:55
I'm
1:16:55
a
1:16:55
liar
1:16:55
because
1:16:57
in
1:16:58
the
1:16:58
live
1:16:58
stream
1:16:59
and
1:16:59
in
1:16:59
the
1:16:59
reaction
1:17:00
and
1:17:00
then
1:17:00
all
1:17:00
the
1:17:01
time
1:17:01
leading
1:17:01
up
1:17:01
to
1:17:01
that,
1:17:01
I
1:17:01
was
1:17:02
like,
1:17:02
well,
1:17:02
I,
1:17:02
like,
1:17:02
you
1:17:03
know,
1:17:03
I'll
1:17:03
be
1:17:03
living
1:17:04
in
1:17:04
my
1:17:04
delusion,
1:17:05
like,
1:17:05
until
1:17:05
they
1:17:05
show
1:17:06
me
1:17:06
that.
1:17:06
That
1:17:06
he's
1:17:07
really.
1:17:08
He's
1:17:08
really.
1:17:09
No,
1:17:09
I'm.
1:17:10
I'm
1:17:10
accepting
1:17:10
it.
1:17:11
I'm
1:17:11
accepting
1:17:11
it.
1:17:13
And,
1:17:13
like,
1:17:14
here's
1:17:14
some
1:17:14
reasons
1:17:15
why
1:17:15
we
1:17:15
can.
1:17:16
We're,
1:17:16
like.
1:17:16
We're
1:17:17
accepting
1:17:17
it
1:17:18
kind
1:17:18
of
1:17:18
in
1:17:18
the
1:17:18
way
1:17:18
of,
1:17:19
like.
1:17:19
We
1:17:20
understand
1:17:21
what
1:17:21
your
1:17:22
intention
1:17:23
is.
1:17:24
We've
1:17:25
under.
1:17:25
We
1:17:25
understand
1:17:25
the
1:17:26
Council
1:17:26
of
1:17:26
One
1:17:27
has
1:17:27
made
1:17:28
a
1:17:28
decision
1:17:29
because
1:17:29
of
1:17:29
these
1:17:29
reasons.
1:17:30
Rachel,
1:17:30
please
1:17:30
read
1:17:30
them.
1:17:31
Because
1:17:31
I
1:17:31
can't.
1:17:32
I
1:17:32
know.
1:17:33
So
1:17:33
me,
1:17:33
as.
1:17:34
As
1:17:34
the.
1:17:35
As
1:17:35
the
1:17:36
devil's
1:17:37
advocate.
1:17:37
Devil's
1:17:38
advocate.
1:17:39
I'm
1:17:39
not
1:17:40
supporting
1:17:41
this.
1:17:41
I
1:17:41
just
1:17:42
want
1:17:42
to
1:17:42
preface.
1:17:42
I
1:17:42
am
1:17:43
not
1:17:43
in
1:17:43
agreement
1:17:44
with
1:17:44
this,
1:17:45
but
1:17:45
this
1:17:45
is,
1:17:45
like,
1:17:46
okay,
1:17:46
I
1:17:47
guess
1:17:47
I
1:17:47
can
1:17:47
understand
1:17:48
what
1:17:48
you're
1:17:48
going
1:17:48
for.
1:17:49
So,
1:17:49
like,
1:17:50
we
1:17:50
can
1:17:50
understand
1:17:51
narratively
1:17:52
why
1:17:53
Bobby
1:17:54
had
1:17:54
to
1:17:54
make
1:17:54
the
1:17:54
sacrifice
1:17:55
for
1:17:55
his
1:17:55
team
1:17:56
because
1:17:57
he
1:17:57
had
1:17:57
to
1:17:57
make
1:17:57
sure
1:17:58
as
1:17:58
a
1:17:58
captain,
1:17:59
as
1:17:59
a
1:17:59
father
1:18:00
figure,
1:18:00
he
1:18:00
had
1:18:00
to
1:18:01
make
1:18:01
sure
1:18:01
that
1:18:01
they
1:18:01
were
1:18:01
all
1:18:01
safe.
1:18:02
So
1:18:02
he's
1:18:03
doing
1:18:03
his
1:18:03
due
1:18:03
diligence
1:18:05
in
1:18:05
his
1:18:05
job.
1:18:06
And
1:18:07
as
1:18:07
someone
1:18:07
who
1:18:07
loves
1:18:08
these
1:18:08
people
1:18:09
so,
1:18:09
like,
1:18:10
that
1:18:10
sacrifice,
1:18:11
I
1:18:11
get
1:18:12
he
1:18:12
was
1:18:12
always
1:18:12
going
1:18:13
to
1:18:13
give
1:18:13
Chimney
1:18:14
the
1:18:14
antiviral.
1:18:15
That
1:18:15
was
1:18:15
never.
1:18:16
That
1:18:16
was
1:18:16
never
1:18:16
going
1:18:17
to
1:18:17
be
1:18:17
out
1:18:17
of
1:18:17
the
1:18:17
question.
1:18:18
So,
1:18:18
like,
1:18:19
again,
1:18:19
narratively,
1:18:20
you
1:18:21
could
1:18:21
say
1:18:21
that
1:18:22
Bobby,
1:18:23
throughout
1:18:23
these
1:18:24
eight
1:18:24
years,
1:18:24
has
1:18:25
reached
1:18:26
a
1:18:26
self
1:18:26
actualization
1:18:28
from
1:18:28
where
1:18:29
he
1:18:29
started
1:18:29
at
1:18:29
the
1:18:29
very
1:18:30
beginning
1:18:30
thinking
1:18:31
that
1:18:31
he
1:18:31
didn't
1:18:32
deserve
1:18:32
to
1:18:32
live
1:18:33
and
1:18:33
he
1:18:33
was
1:18:33
only
1:18:34
serving
1:18:34
her,
1:18:35
serving
1:18:35
his
1:18:35
penance.
1:18:36
And
1:18:36
then
1:18:37
he
1:18:37
could
1:18:37
like,
1:18:37
walk
1:18:38
off
1:18:38
into
1:18:38
the.
1:18:39
Into
1:18:39
the
1:18:39
great
1:18:39
beyond
1:18:41
and.
1:18:41
And
1:18:41
like,
1:18:42
right
1:18:42
his
1:18:43
wrong,
1:18:43
his
1:18:43
perceived
1:18:44
wrongdoings
1:18:45
for
1:18:46
the.
1:18:46
For
1:18:47
what
1:18:47
happened
1:18:47
in,
1:18:48
in
1:18:48
St.
1:18:48
Paul.
1:18:50
But
1:18:50
throughout
1:18:51
his
1:18:52
trajectory
1:18:52
on
1:18:53
the
1:18:53
show,
1:18:53
he's
1:18:54
finally.
1:18:54
And
1:18:55
like
1:18:55
he
1:18:55
says
1:18:55
to
1:18:55
Athena,
1:18:56
he
1:18:56
finally
1:18:57
allowed
1:18:58
himself
1:18:59
to
1:18:59
live
1:19:00
and
1:19:01
start
1:19:01
a
1:19:01
new
1:19:01
life
1:19:01
and
1:19:02
find
1:19:02
joy.
1:19:03
So
1:19:04
I
1:19:04
guess
1:19:05
you
1:19:05
can
1:19:05
consider
1:19:06
that
1:19:06
closure
1:19:07
or
1:19:08
a
1:19:08
conclusion
1:19:09
narratively
1:19:10
because
1:19:10
he
1:19:11
is
1:19:11
in
1:19:11
a
1:19:12
different
1:19:12
place
1:19:12
than
1:19:12
when
1:19:12
he
1:19:13
started.
1:19:14
I
1:19:14
don't
1:19:14
know
1:19:14
why
1:19:14
that
1:19:14
has.
1:19:15
That
1:19:15
place
1:19:15
has
1:19:15
to
1:19:16
end
1:19:16
right
1:19:16
now,
1:19:16
but
1:19:17
I
1:19:17
get
1:19:17
it.
1:19:17
No,
1:19:17
because
1:19:17
he
1:19:18
literally
1:19:18
just
1:19:18
got
1:19:19
to
1:19:19
a
1:19:19
place
1:19:19
where
1:19:19
he
1:19:19
isn't
1:19:20
just
1:19:20
like,
1:19:21
yeah,
1:19:21
I'm
1:19:21
okay
1:19:21
with
1:19:21
dying.
1:19:22
Yeah.
1:19:22
Like
1:19:23
last
1:19:23
season.
1:19:23
Like
1:19:24
last
1:19:24
season
1:19:24
we've
1:19:25
had
1:19:25
like.
1:19:25
Like
1:19:26
the
1:19:26
end
1:19:26
of
1:19:26
last.
1:19:27
We've
1:19:28
had
1:19:28
like
1:19:28
14
1:19:28
episodes
1:19:29
where
1:19:29
he's
1:19:29
like,
1:19:29
yeah,
1:19:30
I
1:19:30
don't
1:19:30
want
1:19:30
to
1:19:30
die,
1:19:31
but
1:19:32
this
1:19:32
is
1:19:32
the
1:19:32
acceptance
1:19:33
stage.
1:19:34
And
1:19:35
you
1:19:35
could
1:19:35
say,
1:19:36
ostensibly,
1:19:37
like,
1:19:37
objectively,
1:19:39
these
1:19:40
episodes
1:19:40
were
1:19:41
successful
1:19:42
full
1:19:43
because.
1:19:45
Because
1:19:45
they
1:19:46
hold
1:19:47
at
1:19:47
the
1:19:47
heartstrings
1:19:48
of
1:19:48
both
1:19:48
the
1:19:48
characters
1:19:49
and
1:19:49
the
1:19:49
audience
1:19:50
and
1:19:50
like
1:19:50
the.
1:19:51
The
1:19:51
actors,
1:19:51
obviously,
1:19:52
who
1:19:52
are
1:19:52
portraying
1:19:53
these
1:19:53
characters
1:19:53
and,
1:19:54
and
1:19:54
reacting
1:19:55
emotionally
1:19:56
because.
1:19:57
And
1:19:58
this
1:19:58
is
1:19:58
gonna
1:19:58
sound
1:19:59
like
1:19:59
kind
1:20:00
of
1:20:00
tutti
1:20:01
frutti,
1:20:02
because,
1:20:02
like,
1:20:03
art
1:20:03
at
1:20:04
its
1:20:04
core
1:20:04
is
1:20:04
supposed
1:20:05
to
1:20:05
evoke
1:20:06
strong
1:20:06
emotions.
1:20:07
Yeah.
1:20:07
Um,
1:20:08
it
1:20:08
doesn't
1:20:08
necessarily
1:20:09
have
1:20:09
to
1:20:09
be
1:20:09
positive
1:20:10
emotions.
1:20:11
So,
1:20:11
like,
1:20:11
from
1:20:11
an
1:20:11
objective
1:20:12
standpoint,
1:20:13
success,
1:20:14
I
1:20:15
guess.
1:20:15
Yeah.
1:20:16
I
1:20:16
mean,
1:20:16
hold
1:20:16
on,
1:20:16
I'm
1:20:16
gonna
1:20:17
say
1:20:17
something
1:20:17
and
1:20:17
put
1:20:17
it
1:20:17
in
1:20:18
the
1:20:18
other
1:20:18
section.
1:20:19
I
1:20:19
don't
1:20:19
know
1:20:19
what
1:20:19
section.
1:20:20
I
1:20:21
think
1:20:21
with
1:20:21
this
1:20:22
kind
1:20:22
of
1:20:22
storyline,
1:20:23
the.
1:20:24
The
1:20:25
kind
1:20:25
of
1:20:25
emotions
1:20:26
you'd
1:20:26
want
1:20:26
to
1:20:26
be
1:20:26
evoking
1:20:27
would
1:20:27
be
1:20:28
sadness,
1:20:29
distress,
1:20:30
like
1:20:30
just
1:20:31
bereavement.
1:20:32
People
1:20:33
are
1:20:33
mostly
1:20:34
just
1:20:34
fucking
1:20:35
angry.
1:20:36
And
1:20:36
I
1:20:36
think
1:20:36
that
1:20:36
means
1:20:37
it
1:20:37
wasn't
1:20:37
done
1:20:38
well.
1:20:39
Well,
1:20:39
yeah,
1:20:40
yeah,
1:20:41
yeah.
1:20:42
You're
1:20:43
going
1:20:43
for
1:20:43
emotion,
1:20:44
which.
1:20:45
Which.
1:20:45
Okay,
1:20:46
check.
1:20:47
But
1:20:47
the
1:20:47
emotion
1:20:48
is
1:20:48
not
1:20:48
the
1:20:48
intended
1:20:49
emotion.
1:20:49
Yeah,
1:20:50
you
1:20:50
want,
1:20:51
you
1:20:51
want.
1:20:51
Actually,
1:20:51
this
1:20:52
can
1:20:52
stay
1:20:52
here.
1:20:52
This
1:20:52
isn't
1:20:53
me.
1:20:53
This
1:20:53
is.
1:20:54
I'm
1:20:54
accepting
1:20:54
it.
1:20:54
This
1:20:54
is
1:20:55
just
1:20:55
like.
1:20:56
Yeah,
1:20:56
because
1:20:56
you
1:20:56
want
1:20:57
cathartic.
1:20:58
You
1:20:58
want
1:20:59
like
1:21:00
a
1:21:00
cathartic
1:21:01
death.
1:21:01
Like.
1:21:02
Yes.
1:21:04
Yeah,
1:21:04
like,
1:21:04
it's
1:21:05
Sad.
1:21:05
But
1:21:05
it
1:21:05
feels
1:21:06
good.
1:21:06
Yes.
1:21:07
Because
1:21:07
it
1:21:08
works.
1:21:08
Yes.
1:21:09
I
1:21:09
don't
1:21:09
think
1:21:09
anyone
1:21:10
is
1:21:10
feeling
1:21:11
cathartic.
1:21:12
No.
1:21:13
But
1:21:13
they
1:21:13
are
1:21:14
feeling
1:21:14
something
1:21:15
very
1:21:15
strongly.
1:21:16
So.
1:21:16
And
1:21:17
then.
1:21:17
That's
1:21:17
my
1:21:17
question,
1:21:18
Tim,
1:21:19
what
1:21:19
was.
1:21:19
What
1:21:20
kind
1:21:20
of
1:21:21
emotion
1:21:22
did
1:21:22
you
1:21:23
want
1:21:23
us
1:21:23
to
1:21:23
feel?
1:21:24
Like,
1:21:25
happy
1:21:25
that
1:21:25
he
1:21:25
died
1:21:26
a
1:21:26
heroic
1:21:26
death.
1:21:27
It
1:21:27
was
1:21:27
heroic.
1:21:28
But
1:21:28
what.
1:21:29
The
1:21:29
aftermath,
1:21:30
the
1:21:30
overall
1:21:30
emotion.
1:21:31
Like,
1:21:31
what
1:21:31
were
1:21:31
we
1:21:32
really
1:21:32
supposed
1:21:32
to
1:21:32
feel?
1:21:33
Because
1:21:33
right
1:21:33
now,
1:21:34
no
1:21:34
one's
1:21:35
feeling
1:21:35
anything
1:21:36
positive.
1:21:36
Especially
1:21:37
when
1:21:37
you're,
1:21:37
like,
1:21:37
anticipating
1:21:38
the
1:21:39
backlash
1:21:40
from
1:21:40
fans.
1:21:41
You're
1:21:41
always.
1:21:42
You
1:21:42
were.
1:21:42
There
1:21:42
was
1:21:42
always
1:21:43
going
1:21:43
to
1:21:43
be
1:21:43
backlash.
1:21:44
I
1:21:44
just
1:21:44
don't.
1:21:44
Yeah.
1:21:45
For
1:21:45
any
1:21:45
decision,
1:21:46
there's
1:21:46
always
1:21:46
going
1:21:46
to
1:21:46
be
1:21:47
backlash.
1:21:47
That's
1:21:47
fair.
1:21:48
And
1:21:48
you
1:21:48
have
1:21:48
to
1:21:49
prepare
1:21:49
for
1:21:49
that.
1:21:49
It's
1:21:50
just,
1:21:50
there's.
1:21:51
There's
1:21:51
just
1:21:51
a
1:21:51
way
1:21:52
that
1:21:52
I
1:21:52
feel
1:21:52
like
1:21:52
he
1:21:52
could
1:21:53
have
1:21:53
done
1:21:54
this
1:21:54
with
1:21:55
a
1:21:55
good
1:21:55
amount
1:21:55
of
1:21:56
lead
1:21:56
up.
1:21:57
Really,
1:21:57
really
1:21:58
nodding
1:21:59
to
1:21:59
the
1:21:59
point
1:22:00
that
1:22:00
G.
1:22:00
A
1:22:00
would
1:22:01
get.
1:22:01
Because,
1:22:01
like,
1:22:02
we
1:22:02
didn't
1:22:02
even
1:22:02
really
1:22:03
get
1:22:03
foreshadowed.
1:22:04
Like,
1:22:04
all
1:22:04
the
1:22:05
things
1:22:05
that
1:22:05
we
1:22:05
talked
1:22:05
about
1:22:05
foreshadowing
1:22:06
for
1:22:06
him
1:22:06
being.
1:22:07
We
1:22:07
should
1:22:07
say
1:22:08
this
1:22:08
here.
1:22:08
All
1:22:08
the
1:22:08
things
1:22:09
that
1:22:09
we
1:22:09
talked
1:22:09
about
1:22:09
being
1:22:10
foreshadowing
1:22:11
for
1:22:11
him
1:22:11
still
1:22:11
being
1:22:12
alive
1:22:13
could
1:22:13
also
1:22:14
be
1:22:14
reverse
1:22:15
foreshadowing.
1:22:16
Like.
1:22:17
Like
1:22:18
the
1:22:20
reversing
1:22:21
expectations.
1:22:21
So,
1:22:22
like,
1:22:22
what
1:22:22
we
1:22:22
talked
1:22:22
about
1:22:22
in
1:22:22
season
1:22:23
two
1:22:23
with
1:22:24
the
1:22:24
ruined
1:22:24
miracle,
1:22:25
basically,
1:22:26
how
1:22:26
they
1:22:26
kept,
1:22:26
like,
1:22:27
showing,
1:22:28
like,
1:22:28
mother
1:22:29
surviving,
1:22:29
and
1:22:30
then
1:22:30
they
1:22:30
killed
1:22:30
Shannon.
1:22:31
So,
1:22:31
like,
1:22:31
you
1:22:31
could
1:22:31
say
1:22:31
that
1:22:32
it's
1:22:32
that,
1:22:33
but,
1:22:33
like,
1:22:34
you
1:22:34
could
1:22:34
have
1:22:34
done
1:22:34
it
1:22:34
in
1:22:35
a
1:22:35
way
1:22:35
that
1:22:36
really
1:22:36
made
1:22:36
it
1:22:36
obvious
1:22:37
to
1:22:37
us
1:22:37
and
1:22:38
especially
1:22:38
the
1:22:38
general
1:22:39
audience
1:22:39
that,
1:22:40
like,
1:22:40
something
1:22:42
could
1:22:42
be,
1:22:42
like,
1:22:42
you
1:22:43
feel
1:22:43
some
1:22:43
sort
1:22:43
of
1:22:44
sense
1:22:44
of
1:22:44
foreboding,
1:22:46
and
1:22:46
then
1:22:46
you
1:22:46
could
1:22:46
have
1:22:47
done
1:22:47
it
1:22:47
in
1:22:47
a
1:22:47
way
1:22:48
that
1:22:48
the.
1:22:48
The
1:22:48
audience
1:22:49
is
1:22:49
destroyed
1:22:50
and
1:22:50
they're
1:22:51
so
1:22:51
fucking
1:22:52
sad.
1:22:53
And,
1:22:53
like,
1:22:53
maybe
1:22:53
they
1:22:54
don't
1:22:54
know
1:22:54
if
1:22:54
they
1:22:54
can
1:22:54
keep
1:22:54
watching
1:22:55
because
1:22:55
they'll
1:22:55
miss
1:22:56
Bobby
1:22:56
so
1:22:56
much.
1:22:57
But,
1:22:57
like,
1:22:58
they
1:22:59
still
1:23:00
thought
1:23:00
it
1:23:00
was
1:23:01
a
1:23:01
good
1:23:01
story.
1:23:02
And
1:23:03
it
1:23:03
doesn't
1:23:03
have
1:23:03
to
1:23:03
be
1:23:03
mutually
1:23:04
exclusive.
1:23:05
In
1:23:05
fact,
1:23:05
it
1:23:06
should.
1:23:06
It
1:23:06
should
1:23:07
be
1:23:07
both.
1:23:08
Both.
1:23:09
And
1:23:09
that.
1:23:10
That
1:23:10
would
1:23:10
be
1:23:10
the
1:23:11
ultimate
1:23:11
acceptance
1:23:11
of
1:23:12
that.
1:23:12
Because,
1:23:12
like,
1:23:12
we.
1:23:13
We
1:23:13
can
1:23:13
understand.
1:23:14
We
1:23:14
can
1:23:14
understand
1:23:15
what's
1:23:15
going
1:23:15
on
1:23:15
here
1:23:15
with
1:23:16
the
1:23:16
narrative.
1:23:16
Yeah,
1:23:18
we
1:23:18
get
1:23:18
what.
1:23:19
What
1:23:19
you
1:23:19
were
1:23:19
going
1:23:20
for.
1:23:20
I
1:23:20
think
1:23:21
as
1:23:21
much
1:23:21
as
1:23:22
we
1:23:22
can,
1:23:22
like,
1:23:22
put
1:23:23
ourselves
1:23:23
in.
1:23:24
In
1:23:25
those
1:23:25
kind
1:23:25
of
1:23:25
shoes,
1:23:26
like,
1:23:27
we
1:23:27
get
1:23:27
it.
1:23:27
I.
1:23:28
I
1:23:28
don't
1:23:28
think
1:23:29
so.
1:23:29
We
1:23:29
accept
1:23:30
it
1:23:30
as
1:23:30
a
1:23:31
decision
1:23:31
that
1:23:31
has
1:23:31
been
1:23:32
made,
1:23:33
but
1:23:33
I
1:23:33
don't
1:23:33
think
1:23:34
we
1:23:34
accept
1:23:34
it
1:23:34
as,
1:23:35
like,
1:23:35
the
1:23:36
right
1:23:36
decision.
1:23:37
No.
1:23:37
At
1:23:38
the.
1:23:38
At
1:23:38
the
1:23:38
end
1:23:38
of
1:23:38
the
1:23:38
day.
1:23:39
At
1:23:39
the
1:23:39
end
1:23:39
of
1:23:39
this
1:23:39
day.
1:23:40
So
1:23:40
why
1:23:40
don't
1:23:40
you
1:23:40
bring
1:23:40
them
1:23:41
back?
1:23:41
And
1:23:41
then
1:23:41
you.
1:23:42
You.
1:23:42
You
1:23:42
can
1:23:42
do
1:23:43
this
1:23:43
again,
1:23:43
but
1:23:44
better
1:23:44
at
1:23:45
some
1:23:45
point.
1:23:45
Why
1:23:45
don't
1:23:45
you
1:23:46
wait
1:23:46
until
1:23:46
season
1:23:46
10?
1:23:47
You
1:23:47
know?
1:23:48
Too
1:23:48
soon.
1:23:49
No,
1:23:49
but
1:23:50
honestly,
1:23:50
like,
1:23:50
I'm
1:23:50
not
1:23:51
gonna
1:23:51
lie.
1:23:51
Like,
1:23:51
if
1:23:51
they
1:23:52
were
1:23:52
gonna
1:23:52
kill.
1:23:52
Like,
1:23:52
if
1:23:53
they
1:23:53
were
1:23:53
gonna
1:23:53
do
1:23:53
this,
1:23:54
I
1:23:54
was
1:23:54
like,
1:23:54
thinking,
1:23:55
give.
1:23:55
Give
1:23:55
me
1:23:56
three
1:23:56
more.
1:23:56
Give
1:23:57
me
1:23:57
seven,
1:23:57
eight.
1:23:57
Give
1:23:58
us
1:23:58
a
1:23:58
couple
1:23:58
more.
1:23:58
Yeah.
1:23:59
And
1:23:59
then
1:23:59
probably
1:24:00
maybe
1:24:01
end
1:24:01
of
1:24:01
9
1:24:02
going
1:24:02
into
1:24:02
10,
1:24:02
like,
1:24:03
if
1:24:03
you
1:24:03
really
1:24:03
wanted
1:24:03
to
1:24:03
kill
1:24:04
someone
1:24:04
off
1:24:04
now
1:24:04
that
1:24:04
you're
1:24:04
in
1:24:05
a
1:24:05
new
1:24:05
network
1:24:05
and
1:24:06
then.
1:24:06
And,
1:24:06
like,
1:24:07
type
1:24:08
of
1:24:08
show,
1:24:08
you
1:24:09
know.
1:24:09
Like,
1:24:09
and
1:24:09
then
1:24:10
lead
1:24:10
up
1:24:10
to
1:24:10
it
1:24:11
all
1:24:11
season.
1:24:11
Yeah.
1:24:12
Yeah.
1:24:13
So
1:24:14
I
1:24:14
guess
1:24:14
that's
1:24:14
still
1:24:15
a
1:24:15
little
1:24:15
bit
1:24:15
of
1:24:15
bargaining
1:24:15
thoughts.
1:24:16
But
1:24:16
it
1:24:16
is
1:24:16
still
1:24:17
bargaining.
1:24:17
But
1:24:17
you
1:24:18
know
1:24:18
what?
1:24:18
Grief
1:24:19
is
1:24:19
not
1:24:19
linear.
1:24:20
No.
1:24:21
Like
1:24:21
I
1:24:21
said,
1:24:22
this
1:24:22
is
1:24:22
the
1:24:22
way
1:24:22
we're
1:24:23
accepting
1:24:23
it
1:24:23
right
1:24:23
now.
1:24:24
So,
1:24:24
yeah.
1:24:25
Where
1:24:26
we're
1:24:26
gonna
1:24:26
be.
1:24:27
Who
1:24:27
knows
1:24:27
where
1:24:27
we're
1:24:27
gonna
1:24:28
be?
1:24:28
Who
1:24:28
knows
1:24:28
where
1:24:29
our
1:24:29
thought
1:24:29
process
1:24:30
is
1:24:30
going
1:24:30
to
1:24:30
be
1:24:31
tomorrow?
1:24:32
Two
1:24:32
days,
1:24:34
brief
1:24:35
moments
1:24:35
of
1:24:35
going.
1:24:36
This
1:24:36
is
1:24:37
fake.
1:24:38
Because
1:24:39
we're
1:24:39
just
1:24:39
like.
1:24:39
It
1:24:39
makes
1:24:39
no
1:24:40
sense.
1:24:40
Yes.
1:24:42
But
1:24:42
yeah,
1:24:42
I
1:24:43
don't
1:24:43
know.
1:24:43
I
1:24:44
guess
1:24:44
in
1:24:44
the
1:24:44
future,
1:24:45
if.
1:24:45
If.
1:24:46
If
1:24:46
Bobby
1:24:47
is
1:24:47
actually
1:24:47
alive.
1:24:48
Kenny
1:24:49
Choi,
1:24:49
bravo.
1:24:50
Just
1:24:51
standing
1:24:51
ovation
1:24:52
always
1:24:52
for
1:24:52
your
1:24:53
performance,
1:24:53
but
1:24:53
this
1:24:53
is
1:24:53
your
1:24:53
best
1:24:54
one.
1:24:54
Yeah.
1:24:55
This
1:24:55
was
1:24:56
not
1:24:56
real.
1:24:57
And
1:24:57
if
1:24:57
it
1:24:57
is,
1:24:57
I'm
1:24:58
so
1:24:58
sorry,
1:24:59
because
1:24:59
I
1:25:00
think
1:25:00
Kenny
1:25:00
Choi's
1:25:00
taking
1:25:01
this
1:25:01
worse
1:25:01
than
1:25:01
anyone
1:25:02
else.
1:25:03
And
1:25:03
if
1:25:03
it
1:25:03
is
1:25:04
real,
1:25:04
I'm
1:25:05
so
1:25:05
sorry.
1:25:06
I
1:25:06
think
1:25:06
you
1:25:06
broke
1:25:07
Kenny
1:25:07
Choice.
1:25:07
I
1:25:08
think
1:25:08
you
1:25:08
did,
1:25:08
Tim.
1:25:09
I
1:25:10
think
1:25:10
you
1:25:10
broke
1:25:10
him.
1:25:11
And
1:25:11
we're
1:25:12
concerned
1:25:12
about
1:25:12
him
1:25:13
almost
1:25:13
more
1:25:13
than
1:25:14
concerned
1:25:14
about
1:25:14
us.
1:25:15
Like,
1:25:15
does
1:25:16
he
1:25:16
get
1:25:16
workman's
1:25:16
comp?
1:25:17
Oh,
1:25:18
my
1:25:18
God.
1:25:18
Your
1:25:18
boss
1:25:19
psychologically
1:25:19
torturing
1:25:20
you.
1:25:21
Like.
1:25:22
Like,
1:25:22
we.
1:25:23
We
1:25:23
love
1:25:23
to
1:25:23
be
1:25:24
psychologically
1:25:25
messed
1:25:25
with,
1:25:25
you
1:25:25
know,
1:25:26
just
1:25:26
like
1:25:26
the
1:25:26
next
1:25:26
person.
1:25:27
But
1:25:27
this
1:25:28
is.
1:25:28
This
1:25:28
is
1:25:28
a
1:25:29
lot.
1:25:29
Yeah,
1:25:30
this
1:25:31
is
1:25:31
a
1:25:31
lot.
1:25:32
Yeah.
1:25:32
Do
1:25:33
we
1:25:33
have
1:25:33
any.
1:25:33
I
1:25:33
just
1:25:33
like
1:25:34
to.
1:25:34
No,
1:25:34
I
1:25:34
just.
1:25:35
Sorry.
1:25:35
Again
1:25:35
with
1:25:35
Kenny
1:25:36
Choi.
1:25:36
I
1:25:37
just
1:25:37
like
1:25:37
to
1:25:37
say
1:25:37
that
1:25:37
we
1:25:37
stand
1:25:38
with
1:25:38
Kenny
1:25:38
Choi.
1:25:40
We
1:25:40
always
1:25:41
do.
1:25:41
But
1:25:41
right
1:25:42
now,
1:25:43
just.
1:25:44
We
1:25:44
see
1:25:44
you.
1:25:44
We
1:25:45
hear
1:25:45
you.
1:25:45
He's
1:25:45
the
1:25:45
only
1:25:46
one.
1:25:46
We
1:25:46
are.
1:25:46
You
1:25:47
see
1:25:47
you.
1:25:48
We
1:25:48
are
1:25:48
all
1:25:48
Kenny
1:25:49
Choi.
1:25:49
We
1:25:49
see
1:25:50
you,
1:25:50
Kenny.
1:25:51
We
1:25:51
are.
1:25:52
We
1:25:52
are
1:25:52
all.
1:25:52
Kenny
1:25:52
Joy.
1:25:56
Thank
1:25:56
you
1:25:56
so
1:25:56
much
1:25:57
for
1:25:57
tuning
1:25:57
in
1:25:58
to
1:25:58
our
1:25:59
grief
1:26:00
special,
1:26:00
which
1:26:00
we
1:26:00
never
1:26:01
thought
1:26:01
or
1:26:02
wanted
1:26:02
to
1:26:02
do.
1:26:03
This
1:26:03
is
1:26:03
not
1:26:04
the
1:26:04
episode
1:26:05
that
1:26:05
we
1:26:06
ever
1:26:06
intended
1:26:07
on
1:26:07
recording.
1:26:08
Not
1:26:08
what
1:26:08
we
1:26:09
wanted
1:26:09
to
1:26:09
do
1:26:10
and.
1:26:10
Not
1:26:10
what
1:26:10
we
1:26:10
wanted
1:26:11
to
1:26:11
do
1:26:11
today.
1:26:11
But
1:26:12
we
1:26:12
hope
1:26:12
that
1:26:12
you'll
1:26:12
find
1:26:13
some
1:26:13
comfort
1:26:13
in
1:26:14
this
1:26:14
or
1:26:14
just
1:26:15
some
1:26:15
camaraderie
1:26:16
or,
1:26:16
you
1:26:17
know,
1:26:17
something.
1:26:18
Something
1:26:19
positive
1:26:19
or
1:26:20
just.
1:26:20
I
1:26:21
don't
1:26:21
know,
1:26:21
just
1:26:22
some.
1:26:22
Just
1:26:22
know
1:26:23
that,
1:26:23
like,
1:26:23
you
1:26:24
can
1:26:24
commiserate
1:26:24
with
1:26:25
us
1:26:25
because
1:26:26
we're
1:26:26
feeling
1:26:26
the
1:26:26
same
1:26:27
thing.
1:26:27
And
1:26:28
like,
1:26:28
if
1:26:29
you
1:26:29
need
1:26:29
to
1:26:29
talk
1:26:30
to
1:26:30
us,
1:26:30
talk
1:26:31
to
1:26:31
us
1:26:31
on
1:26:31
socials,
1:26:32
talk
1:26:32
to
1:26:33
us
1:26:33
on
1:26:33
discord.
1:26:34
Yeah.
1:26:34
Like,
1:26:35
we
1:26:35
are,
1:26:35
we
1:26:35
are
1:26:36
literally
1:26:36
all
1:26:37
going
1:26:37
through
1:26:38
it
1:26:39
together.
1:26:39
And
1:26:40
I
1:26:40
think,
1:26:40
like,
1:26:41
I
1:26:41
think
1:26:41
the
1:26:42
best
1:26:42
thing
1:26:42
that
1:26:42
we
1:26:42
can
1:26:43
do,
1:26:43
like,
1:26:43
as
1:26:43
a
1:26:44
fandom,
1:26:44
is
1:26:45
be
1:26:46
there
1:26:46
for
1:26:46
each
1:26:46
other.
1:26:47
Be
1:26:47
there
1:26:47
for
1:26:47
each
1:26:47
other.
1:26:48
Find
1:26:48
that,
1:26:48
that
1:26:49
camaraderie
1:26:49
in,
1:26:50
in
1:26:50
community
1:26:51
and,
1:26:52
and
1:26:53
just
1:26:53
like
1:26:53
just,
1:26:54
just
1:26:54
hold
1:26:55
space
1:26:55
with
1:26:55
each
1:26:55
other
1:26:56
is
1:26:56
this.
1:26:57
I
1:26:57
know,
1:26:58
I
1:26:58
know
1:26:58
that
1:26:58
I
1:26:59
love
1:26:59
saying
1:26:59
hold
1:27:00
space.
1:27:00
I
1:27:00
do.
1:27:00
But
1:27:00
I've,
1:27:01
but
1:27:01
I've
1:27:01
been
1:27:01
saying,
1:27:02
I've
1:27:02
been
1:27:02
saying
1:27:02
hold
1:27:03
space
1:27:03
before
1:27:03
the,
1:27:04
before
1:27:05
wicked.
1:27:07
That
1:27:07
is,
1:27:08
that
1:27:08
is
1:27:08
like
1:27:08
the
1:27:09
least
1:27:09
you
1:27:09
can
1:27:10
do.
1:27:10
And
1:27:10
sometimes
1:27:10
it's
1:27:11
the
1:27:11
most
1:27:12
beneficial
1:27:13
and
1:27:13
the
1:27:13
most
1:27:13
powerful
1:27:14
thing,
1:27:14
you
1:27:14
know,
1:27:14
and.
1:27:14
If,
1:27:15
and
1:27:15
if
1:27:15
you
1:27:15
don't
1:27:15
want
1:27:15
to
1:27:15
talk
1:27:16
to
1:27:16
us,
1:27:16
that's
1:27:16
fine,
1:27:16
but
1:27:16
talk
1:27:17
to
1:27:17
your,
1:27:17
talk
1:27:17
to
1:27:17
your
1:27:18
buddies
1:27:18
because,
1:27:19
you
1:27:19
know,
1:27:20
we're
1:27:20
all
1:27:20
going
1:27:21
through
1:27:21
it,
1:27:21
but
1:27:21
some
1:27:21
of
1:27:21
them
1:27:22
might
1:27:22
be
1:27:22
going
1:27:22
through
1:27:22
it
1:27:22
more
1:27:23
than
1:27:23
others
1:27:24
and
1:27:24
they,
1:27:24
they
1:27:25
could,
1:27:25
they
1:27:25
could
1:27:25
use
1:27:26
you.
1:27:26
And
1:27:26
if
1:27:26
you're
1:27:27
one
1:27:27
of
1:27:27
those
1:27:27
people
1:27:27
who
1:27:27
needs
1:27:28
other
1:27:28
people,
1:27:29
don't
1:27:29
be
1:27:29
afraid
1:27:29
to
1:27:29
reach
1:27:30
out
1:27:30
to
1:27:30
your
1:27:30
friends,
1:27:31
you
1:27:31
know,
1:27:31
for
1:27:32
some
1:27:32
support.
1:27:33
So
1:27:33
just
1:27:33
to,
1:27:34
just
1:27:34
to
1:27:34
close
1:27:34
this
1:27:35
out,
1:27:35
as
1:27:36
the
1:27:36
great
1:27:37
modern
1:27:37
philosopher
1:27:38
Samuel
1:27:39
L.
1:27:39
Jackson
1:27:40
says
1:27:40
in
1:27:41
Avengers,
1:27:42
I
1:27:42
recognize
1:27:42
the
1:27:43
council
1:27:43
has
1:27:43
made
1:27:44
a
1:27:44
decision,
1:27:44
but.
1:27:45
Given
1:27:45
that
1:27:45
it's
1:27:45
a
1:27:45
stupid
1:27:46
ass
1:27:46
decision.
1:27:47
I've
1:27:47
lucked
1:27:48
it
1:27:48
to
1:27:48
ignore
1:27:48
it.
1:27:49
Bye.