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#327: Silver Bullet (1985) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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Hello, what's your least favorite scary movie?
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Welcome to What's Your Least Favorite Scary Movie?
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The podcast where we talk about the good, the bad, the ugly and
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the absurd and all of our favorite.
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Family's favorite? Scary movies.
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Because we believe every horror movie rightfully has its fan
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base. Even if we don't always get it.
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My name is Travis. My name is Jesse and welcome to
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our Patreon voted episode for February.
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We are talking silver bullet. Yeah, I'm so happy we're talking
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about this movie. Too, we were a friend of the
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show Bubby, and our Patreon, Jason invited us to go along
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with him and Kendra to see Silver Bullet in the theaters
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this past October. Yeah, it was part of where they
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were doing the different horror movies every day of the month.
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And yeah, this one it hit. And yeah, we just were
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immediately in love with it. So we're very excited to finally
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talk about it. Yeah, it's going to be cool.
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Before that, just a quick announcement, we're doing our
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Patreon bonus episode before the end of the week.
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Yeah, we're actually getting it out way earlier than when we
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normally do. Yes, because I'm going to be
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having surgery on the 23rd, so we just want to make sure that
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we've got that taken care of. Yeah, OK.
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So be on the lookout for that. It should be here.
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It should already be out. Yeah, yeah, in theory, just if
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you're curious about it. You don't have to be a budget
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tier, Bobby, but it's only a dollar more and you get special
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perks every month. Yeah, but you can just buy the
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episode if you want. The link to our Patreon is down
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in the show notes. We are doing a fan cast of a
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horror movie character themed season of the Traders.
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So we're gonna get our favorite 22 characters together and we'll
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assign the 1st 3 or 4 traders. If it ends up being fun and
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everybody ends up liking it, we might play out a season.
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Yeah, we'll simulate all the season of it if it's cool, but
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I'm excited for that. I think it's going to be fun.
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Jesse and I have really gotten into that show here lately, so
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this is going to be a fun little blend for us.
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I hope everybody else is into. It it's we're, we're going to
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have fun and we hope you all have fun at least by proxy.
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Yeah. Other than that, the only other
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announcement I have is that we have a poll.
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Yeah, that's right, baby. And we did it.
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We are back on track. We are so fucking bad.
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Yeah, and this one, in all credit goes to Jesse.
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She came up with the idea for this.
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Poll I had lost my last remaining brain cell at work
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when Travis texted me on my break and he was like what
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should the poll be? And I said, what is a knife that
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or this? That's perfect for this movie.
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It really works well. So that's what it is.
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It's either this or that. So, OK, we have 14% that say
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that is a knife, 86% say this. Is a noise 14% of you.
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I must remind you that that's not a knife.
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This is a knife. It is.
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It's subjective. I think that could be a knife.
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Tell that to Liz. I don't have to don't tell
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anybody that I you know what? But, I mean, this isn't it.
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That's my vote. This.
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Yeah, I agree. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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OK. So yeah, that's it.
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We got our poll. So thanks everybody for doing
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that. I think we're ready to move on
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over to Silver Bullet now, so. Are OK?
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Silver Bullet released October 11th 1985.
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We watched it on our Screen Factory fork.
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You can currently stream it from YouTube TV or you can rent it on
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YouTube, Google TV Prime, Apple TV or Fandango at Home.
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Written by Stephen King. Yes, I know it is based on the
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short story by Stephen King, but the screenplay was also written
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by him. Surprise me.
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More information on that to come.
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Well, how did it surprise you? The ending was so sudden, no and
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chaotic. Finding that out made it made
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all of that makes sense, but it surprised me that he actually
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did the screenplay for this. Yes, OK.
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Directed by Daniel Atias, music by Jay Chataway, special effects
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makeup by Michael McCracken and Matthew Mungal, Starring Gary
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Busey as Uncle Red, Everett McGill as Reverend Lowe, Corey
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Haim as Marty Koslaw, and Megan Follows as Jane Koslaw.
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Travis, it's time for our favorite game on this show.
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Budget or bugtad? I think this is a bugtad.
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It is, but it might surprise you.
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I'd say it would be a high bug, Ted.
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If I had to put a number, I'd say 8 million.
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God damn, you were close. 7 million.
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Whoa. Yes, all right.
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It had an opening box office of 4 million and a worldwide gross
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of 12,000,006.4 out of 10 on IMDb.
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Awesome. Cool.
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I'm glad that it's got some love.
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Yes, I chose a theme from 1985. I could have gone all
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werewolves, it would have been possible.
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Seems like this is like a time where werewolves were really
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bumping. But there is an even larger
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theme to go with. OK, and I'm going to just simply
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call this theme. Bite me.
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Bite me. Interesting.
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So do we have vampires soon? We do.
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I figured OK. But that's not it.
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Like I chose something different for each one.
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OK, cool. So the first one is the stuff.
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Oh yeah. You literally bite it you.
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Eat the food, you become goop, I think.
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I think that's how that movie. Are you locking in that answer?
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I'm locking that in as a tagline if we ever cover that.
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Movie The Stuff released June 14th, 1985.
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A $1.7 million budget. I have shit for the gross but it
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is a 5.9 out of 10 on IMDb. OK, I think I've, I think I've
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watched that once. Yeah, I remember us watching it
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one time, but I couldn't tell you much about it.
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Same. Second, I can tell you a lot
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about this. We watch it minimum once a year
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and we've covered it on the show Return of the Living Dead.
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Oh hell yeah. OK, Yep.
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And I'm going to have a quick aside for just one moment,
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talking about zombie movies, if you listen to the January
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Patreon bonus episode where we discussed original versus remake
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and neither of us had seen Day of the Dead in 2008.
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I think that's the one of the dead or was the day of.
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The Dead Day of the Dead. I fell asleep last night on the
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couch. The Billy of Travis at some
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point had put Zombieland on and so the streaming was just vibing
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with that and I woke up to the 2008 Day of the Dead remake.
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We were absolutely correct and going with the original because
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that was it was rough. So like 10 minutes I saw of it
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rough. OK.
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I've seen 10 minutes of the original and it was good.
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So, yeah, all right, that's what we're going off of just 10
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minutes. It was rough all.
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Right, she she did like all reenactment of the scene for me
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this morning, it sounded. Yeah, you.
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My mother is dead. My hometown is infested by these
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monsters. You need to answer this.
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That's my meanest Suvari impersonation.
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OK. Return of the Living Dead
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released August 16th, 1985. Budget of $4 million.
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World Red gross of $14 million. IMDb score 7.3 out of 10.
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Hell yeah. Which I think that's the perfect
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score for it to have since it takes place on July 3rd.
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My God damn, that's is it really July 3rd?
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Yeah. Is it the day before July 4th?
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Really. Yeah, that's why we watch it
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every year on July 3rd. Huh, I didn't realize it was
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July 3rd. Yeah, We watch on July 3rd start
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at 5:00 PM. All right, if you're wrong,
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somebody's going to correct you. I am very confident OK in
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myself. OK.
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The third one is the vampire movie.
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It's actually vampire's like parody movie starring Jim
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Carrey. It's called Once Bitten.
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Oh interesting, I've never heard of.
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That I hadn't either, but I was like, you know what?
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Yeah. Once Bitten released November
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15th, 1985, A budget of $8.2 million, a worldwide gross of 10
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million, and an IMDb score of 5.60.
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It's 3.2 million budget, not 13.2 or 8.2.
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Whatever I said it's 3.2 million.
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I'm sorry. I had my tablet zoomed way in so
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in my handwriting would be neater except then when I zoomed
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back out it's just small and blends together.
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I've got 4 tag lines. OK.
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One on the poster. It started in May in a small
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town and every month after that, whenever the moon was full, it
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came back. That's too wordy.
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It's too much. Yeah, it's quite a bit.
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It's like a poem. Yeah, except it's one of those,
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like, fake poems that doesn't rhyme.
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Yeah, like I like, don't, don't come at me about like I have a
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pentameter. You guys like is poem should
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rhyme? I'm probably basic, but poem
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should rhyme. Yeah.
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You hear me? EE Cummings.
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He probably did that one right. There second type 1.
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When darkness falls, terror rises.
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I like that. That's a good one.
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That's really good. That's a good one.
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Part human, part wolf. Total terror.
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OK, not bad, not bad. He makes evil an event.
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OK, OK. Like are are we talking about
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the Reverend here? I think so.
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I guess he kind of does make an event.
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I don't think he's I I'm, I question his motives.
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I don't know if he really is intentionally wreaking havoc on
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this town because he wants to. I just don't know if he can
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control himself. Yeah, he started off kind of
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like a judge. Mental morality police type of
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werewolf. As priests do.
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Yes. Well, yeah, you know, we'll get
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into that in a little bit. First, let's do some fun facts
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about the movie. Yeah, sure.
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So Everett McGill, who played the Reverend Lowe, who also
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spoiler, is the werewolf, he very adamantly did not want to
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do the creature. He was like, I will play
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Reverend Lowe. I do not want to do the creature
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effects, the person that was originally pegged to be the
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creature, like stunt double, body double or whatever you want
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to whatever terminology fits wasn't working out.
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And because Everett McGill had a good, close relationship with
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the producer, I wrote his name down here somewhere.
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It's Dino, something Dino De Laurentiis, just like in Pretty
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Little Liars. He like they had a good working
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relationship and Dino was basically like, hey, but can you
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though? So he was like, he's in good to
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me. So he went ahead and did it.
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He said it was really, really uncomfortable and like there's a
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bunch of wires. And because we, you know, we had
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the screen factory discs, so we were watching some of the
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special features and yeah, they had like a bunch of wires in
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there because that's how they made the creature have its
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facial effects. And that was a whole event in
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and of itself, because the original face that they made for
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it looked too much like a bear. Interesting.
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And I. Didn't show a picture of that.
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They did. Okay, did it look like a bear?
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More so than a wolf, yes. It didn't have much of a snout.
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I was kind of paying half attention to that cuz I wanted
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to come into this surprise so. Yeah, yeah.
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And so that ended up getting redone.
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It sounds really uncomfortable that having like all those wires
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poked on your face. Yeah, that kind of surprised me
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here in that. Yeah, he, that's what his
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interview started off with us talking about that.
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And I think that kind of like tainted the rest of it because
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everything else we read, everybody was like, no, this is
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a great set to work on. And it was awesome.
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The special effects team, they, they really loved it.
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They said it was a great, great time.
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They didn't feel like they were going to work.
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They had made a body double for that very first killing of the
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the drunk man on the road railroads.
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They had set up a rig so that way when he was beheaded, the
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body drops and then just slowly starts oozing blood.
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And because of the way the rig was done, it was like 1 and
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done. You you don't get multiple takes
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with this type of setup and somebody messed up on dropping
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the rig. So the head flu and the body
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just kind of like. I overheard that part.
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They didn't pull out the safety pin which apparently so their
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problem was the body didn't collapse, it just shot blood
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from the neck. But that still would have been
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cool. Yeah.
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You know, I would not be complaining if that were the
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shot that we got. Yeah, this is Dan Atias's
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directorial debut, and Everett McGill said he was actually
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really impressed. Didn't seem like Dan was so
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fresh at this at all because he was like really ready to go,
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probably at least partially due to some of his acting
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experience. But he said when he was trying
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to describe this character to Low and the type of performance
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he wanted him to have, he was like crying because he said it
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was just so intense what the Reverend is going through
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Because, you know, he doesn't want to be this monster, but
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he's got his own issues that he's not really probably dealing
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with and working through either. Interesting.
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I wish we could have explored some of that a little bit more.
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Yeah, it seemed like there could have been a little bit more
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there, which I'll, I'll share a little bit when we do our our,
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our own thoughts on it. Yeah.
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This was shot in North Carolina. And actually a lot of like the
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the townsfolk were portrayed by local actors, which I just think
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is cool. Yeah.
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The original script writing team was Don Coscarelli and Sergio
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Atleiri. And Don Coscarelli was
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originally pegged to direct but Dino De Laurentiis was not super
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loving the script so he like had Stephen King come down to help
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consult with it and he had faxed some notes and Don Coscarelli
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rejected the notes and dropped out of the project.
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Damn. Yeah, that that guy was like, I
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made fantastic. I don't need this shit.
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Let's see, Gary Busey, you're going to love this.
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So Gary Busey actually did multiple takes of most of his
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scenes, one with the script line readings and then one or two or
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however many of him ad libbing. OK, because he apparently felt
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like such a connection with the character.
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And Stephen King and Danitius ended up really loving his ad
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libbed ones so they ended up mostly using the ad Lib takes.
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That explains why I feel like this character is Gary Busey.
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Yes, because. He mean it, just like he shines
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through. Absolutely, absolutely.
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The only other fun fact I have is that the special effects
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project was initially offered to Stan Winston, who turned it
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down. That's crazy.
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Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah.
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So so we could have had Stan Winston with Don Cascarelli
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making silver bullet. That could have been an
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interesting thing it. Could have been interesting, but
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I think it would have been a very different movie and I'm
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very happy with the product we got in the end.
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I am too. So, you know, while we're on
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that train of train of thought, let's go ahead and talk about
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good, bad, ugly and absurd. OK, let's do go ahead and kick
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us off, Travis. All right, so from the good
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right out the gate, I I love the effects from this movie.
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It I I just love practical effects and this is the golden
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era of it right here and we get a lot of really cool depths in
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this movie and they get to like be displayed in all of their
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gory gory yes, it's it's really cool.
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They did a pretty good job with the werewolf.
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I will say after, you know, having watched a lot of Buffy
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lately, I've been seeing some bad werewolves.
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So it's nice to see some good werewolves again.
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You know, it's making me feel good about that.
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I, I love the characters in this.
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I especially love the Reverend as the villain he is.
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There's something about him it's almost like a cartoonish we
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like. They give him the eye patch they
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like. But Everett McGill, holy shit,
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he's got the facial structure to pull off an eye patch.
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And the thing? Is I think it's criminal for him
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to not just be in an eye patch in all of his roles.
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He he rocks the eye patch, he rocks the evil look actually.
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And like whenever you realize that it is him, he's like, how
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could I have not guessed it was him?
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He looks. I was shocked the first time it.
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Happened. I was.
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I did not expect. Night like I knew it was was
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coming but when it like pans to him his full face after he's
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just greeted Janie you're like. That's a great shot.
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It's a great reveal because he's just over there gardening in the
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church. The one or whatever.
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Yeah. But man, yeah, I love that.
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I love all the characters here. I love the story progression.
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The relationship between Marty and Red was really cool.
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Gary Busey is. He's a one-of-a-kind kind of
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character for this, right? Here I could not picture this
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movie with anybody else's Uncle Red.
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Yeah, me too. Like, look, I'm not.
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I'm going to be real. I haven't seen a whole lot of
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Gary Busey things, but the things that I have seen have
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been pretty interesting. And this one right here was
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like, he he just knocked the shit out.
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Like this is great. I liked his.
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Career. If I found out that Gary Busey
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was actually Corey Haim's uncle, I'd be like.
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Yeah, yeah, that's like a it did a really good job of like
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showing that uncle nephew relationship, you know, cuz I
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have like a similar relationship with our nieces and nephews and
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stuff like that. But it was really cool.
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I also like introduction of like the speeding, like the silver
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bullet, like motorcycle thing too, because like it allows him
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to be able to like go out there and like have these chases with
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the werewolf and stuff like that.
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And that whole scene where he's getting chased by the Reverend
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in the car and it goes over to that bridge and like, he runs
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out of gas and then the reverend just like, slowly approaches him
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and walks up to him. That is so fucking chilling.
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It was so good. That scene makes me think of the
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new roller coaster at Kings. I say new, it's one of their
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newer ones. But the roller coaster at Kings
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Island, Mystic, Timber Falls or whatever it is like because they
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have a similar kind of setup. There's allure and then you're,
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you know, going through the whole roller coaster and you
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stop in a covered area and something sneaking up behind
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you. Yeah, it was really cool, man.
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There's just so much fun about this movie.
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It's just a fun movie, man. I gave flow as well from start
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to finish. It's super entertaining.
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All of the characters are super likable, even the villain, you
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know, like it's just, it's so well done.
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I liked it a lot. Yeah, yeah.
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No, I agree. This movie is just easy breezy,
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fun to watch like it flies by. It's I actually looked it up
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because I was expecting it to be like an hour 20.
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It's an hour and 35 minutes. Is it really?
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Yeah. Wow, so I like, I'm shocked at
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just how quickly like it progresses.
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The pacing is Immaculate. Like you said, the performances
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are all great, save for maybe Brody's dad, Herb.
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He has some he's. Got some?
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Moments. He's got some moments or he's
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really chewing on that scenery. Dude, OK, I will give him props
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for that scene in the bar where he's like, yeah, shut up, you
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know, shut up, Joe. Talk to me about private
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justice. He fucking steals that scene,
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yes, Yeah. But like him crying at the
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funeral or when he he. Kind of does the junk Christmas.
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Week or like when he sees his boy's body like.
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That's just like scream. That's a sad.
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Scream, Yeah. Like you're just, you're
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reminded me too. That was another thing I loved
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about this movie was like the the town, like where they're all
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forming the mob and doing mob justice and stuff like that.
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I love. That I wrote in my notes.
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What is this Haddonfield? I know it reminds me of
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Halloween 4. And like it the all the
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different funerals, it kind of gave me Heather's vibes.
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Yeah, I got that too. Yeah, yeah.
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So yeah, this is just this movie just instantly endeared me to
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it. I I love it so much.
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All right, What, what bads do you have for it?
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Really, I just got to say the ending is a little bit lack
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Buster and so abruptly and I I wish that we had some kind of an
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epilogue or something, you know, like after the fact, like see
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things wrapped up. But like it really like they
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kill him. They huddle up in like against
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the wall and like, hug each other and that's it.
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We put the. Credits.
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And I just, I would have liked to have had some aftermath, you
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know, like. Like how did the town react to
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the referendum being the murderer?
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How did the town react to actually being a werewolf?
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You know, like did everybody. Else I don't believe anybody
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will believe that it's a werewolf.
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Yeah, I don't think so either. But like, you know, like what?
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What did the mom and dad think? Like This is why we don't leave
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red. What happened to the wall of
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their house? Yeah, like what the fuck
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happened? Like the reverend jumped through
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the wall and like not that did not happen.
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I. Have to do this.
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I have to. And I'm really sorry because I
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recognize the horse is dead and I'm still beating it.
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But we have a werewolf tearing down the wall of the house, but
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we couldn't get Christine tearing down the wall of the
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house. And Christine, I'm sorry, I'm
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I'm going to be bitter about it. I think in this case, right
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here, the like if, if John Carpenter directed this movie
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and wrote it instead of Stephen King writing it, he would have
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had all of that taken out. There would have been no
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crashing through walls. You bringing out John Carpenter?
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Reminds me of one. We're good.
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I forgot to mention, but the soundtrack is perfect.
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Oh yeah, it. Is like the.
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Music has these great moments because like when Marty is
21:48
setting off the fireworks and he feels something watching him,
21:51
the music gets like really discordant and creepy.
21:53
Yeah, you're right. I forgot about the scores.
21:56
The scores really good. It's kind of, I think it's like
21:58
Cynthia a little bit. Yeah, yeah.
22:00
It really hit. Yeah.
22:04
For me, the bad is is it would have been interesting to see
22:09
those kills be a little bit more paced out.
22:11
Like we see the morality, like he gets a drunkard, he gets a
22:17
woman that's, you know, I think it's implied that there's some
22:21
adultery that happened and that she is about to overdose on some
22:25
pills. She was looking at a picture of
22:27
somebody else other than the guy that she was fighting with,
22:29
right? That's what you're saying.
22:30
No, I think the guy was like cheating on his wife with her.
22:34
I don't know why I have that in my head, but that's the vibe I
22:37
got. Interesting.
22:40
Maybe that's not accurate. I haven't actually read the
22:41
story that the movie's based on, you know?
22:45
Then he kills Tammy's dad who is a bigot.
22:50
He's. Not a nice guy, but then it just
22:53
like it, it kind of starts to devolve to just people that are
22:56
on to him. And it would have been
22:58
interesting to see a little bit more of that devolution down to
23:03
that. Yeah, I like that.
23:05
It seems seemingly random, but I like the fact that like he hones
23:11
in on a person, like it becomes more of a personal thing.
23:14
I think it's one of the things I liked about this being a like a
23:19
werewolf movie this time around. I don't know, I feel like a lot
23:21
of times the werewolf is just kind of like doing shit.
23:23
This time I feel like the reverend like had a mission.
23:25
I feel like it's also just a really kind of powerful way of
23:30
showing, like it's a good metaphor for that holier than
23:33
thou attitude of like, I'm going to judge you and I'm going to
23:37
mete out punishment for these things.
23:39
What's happening to me, I can't control that.
23:41
You know, it's not my fault that I'm a werewolf, that I'm
23:44
murdering people, yet somehow I'm intentionally choosing who
23:46
I'm murdering. You know what I mean?
23:48
Like there's that cognitive dissonance there, which I think.
23:50
Is really great. I never really thought of that.
23:52
But I just like I said, I wish I'd been explored a little bit
23:55
more, but with the way this movie was paced, I don't know
23:58
how much more you could fit in without losing some of the
24:01
vanity of it. Yeah, for sure.
24:04
Ugly. Ugly.
24:05
I had Tammy's dad because he's just like saying that they need
24:09
to kill handicapped people like that was fucking crazy.
24:13
Yikes on bikes. And there are people to this day
24:15
that agree with that kind of sentiment.
24:17
That's so fucking stupid. Yeah, like he was an enjoyable
24:21
death because he got pulled under the like four boards but
24:25
also stabbed by the four boards and it was really well done.
24:28
He had it coming. He had to come.
24:32
How about you? I think probably a little bit of
24:36
the way that people can't agree how to treat Marty.
24:41
You know, that Nan's a little bit overprotective of him.
24:44
And Red's like, well, you're just treating him like he's like
24:47
him being handicapped is all that he is.
24:49
And there's a little bit back and forth.
24:51
And then, you know, I feel like we also have to acknowledge
24:54
that. Were there any, you know,
24:56
wheelchair users who were trying to find a role, you know, in
25:01
Hollywood at that time? Yeah, and so cuz this is a role.
25:04
That could have gone to somebody who's got that, you know, like
25:08
actual it lived experience, but also, you know, can't get the
25:14
same roles as Corey Haim. All the.
25:16
Time, you know? Yeah.
25:18
So. I'm not, I'm not blaming Corey
25:20
Haim for that. I just, it's not his fault.
25:23
And I'm sure that there are probably some additional
25:25
practicalities behind it, but you know it, it just is ugly
25:29
that when those marginalized groups have a chance for a role
25:33
and then it it goes to somebody who doesn't belong in that
25:35
group. Yeah, for sure.
25:37
Yeah. Absurd.
25:41
I remember when we walked out of the theater the first time I
25:45
went to the bathroom and I my first steps out of the bathroom,
25:48
you guys looked at me like, can we all agree that Herb was
25:52
wearing a bald cap? What is that guy's hair
25:56
situation? We, we, we couldn't stop
25:59
talking, talking about it. Well, it doesn't look natural.
26:02
OK and The thing is like we watched it at the theatre now we
26:06
brought it home with the 4K Dolby Vision get to like have
26:09
and it's detail. It looked more natural.
26:11
This time it doesn't look. More natural, but.
26:14
Definition. I looked at it, I'm like, I
26:15
think I see stubble up there. I think he shaves that part off.
26:19
I don't know what's happening. Freckles.
26:21
You saw freckles? Yeah.
26:22
I thought I saw stubble. I thought I saw like, he's just
26:25
like, he wants that. I think he's just like, just
26:30
like take the top off. I feel like if you're.
26:33
Sides. If you're balding and you just
26:35
decide to shave it off, shave it all off you.
26:37
Know yeah it can work for some people don't go some people can
26:40
make it work this guy right here he didn't have it and I'm sorry
26:44
I'm not trying to make fun of people that are always in here
26:47
or anything it's just this guy is head was very.
26:51
It was the cause of debate. It was.
26:53
And the fact that all of us were thinking it individually and
26:56
then had to discuss it after we saw the movie were like, yeah, I
27:00
mean, clearly that's something that stands out to people.
27:02
It was so strange, but that was probably the biggest one other
27:07
than just the entirety of Gary Busey's character in this movie.
27:10
OK, yeah, he's so over the top, especially in the introduction
27:14
where he's playing that card game with Marty.
27:18
He always calls it yeah. I wonder if he had that whole
27:22
joke. I want to see the original skirt
27:25
because I want to know which scenes definitively where AD
27:28
lived. He's so loud, like honestly, if
27:31
I weren't, if I had no way of anticipating what's coming out
27:34
of his mouth, I would probably jump like every time he like
27:38
speaks at me like it would always catch me off guard, like,
27:41
you know? Oh man, OK, what's your?
27:45
So Marty has the silver bullet. It's a wheelchair and it's gas
27:51
powered. And I just, we've seen him come
27:53
out of the school. Yeah, in his gas powered silver
27:57
bullet, custom made wheelchair, which to me says that he has
28:01
been poisoning his classmates. Oh my God, you're long.
28:06
Yeah, holy shit. Can you?
28:07
Imagine like that would just be like somebody having a lawn
28:11
mower in the class with you all day long.
28:14
He's just like, got it idling the entire time in the
28:17
classroom. Everybody's taking the test and
28:20
then the classroom. Here classes have a moment of
28:25
silence for another lost community.
28:33
He's just like here. I like there.
28:35
They're actually reminded me of another absurd ad because like I
28:37
remember when we were first watching this and I was like, he
28:39
has a gas powered wheelchair. I've never seen anything like
28:41
that before. What does he do?
28:43
Does he go to the gas station whenever I thought that was
28:45
like, that's such a weird thing. I hope I actually see it.
28:47
The next shot I see him just like pull into a gas station.
28:51
I'm like, Oh my God, they fucking did it.
28:53
He went to a gas station. It's just so funny Where it.
28:57
Was being filled up at. I don't even know.
28:59
He didn't even get gas. He just like went over there and
29:01
he's like, hey, can we pretend like I'm getting gas?
29:05
Like I, you know, I don't know. It was just so funny.
29:09
But yeah, OK, I think, I think it's time to give our ratings.
29:13
OK, yeah, I will love this movie man.
29:14
I give it 9 1/2. I'm gonna give it a nine.
29:18
OK, so we got a 9.25 starting average.
29:21
Very well deserved for this movie.
29:23
Agreed. We're ready to talk about it.
29:25
Let's do it. We started off with a Jane
29:28
voiceover. It's springtime and it's 1976.
29:32
It's the last full moon before the summer.
29:34
I'm excited for spring to come back.
29:36
Me too. This has been a rough winter.
29:38
Very. We just had so much ice on the
29:39
road and I just got to say fuck ice.
29:42
Fuck ice in all forms. Get ice right the fuck out of
29:44
here. I can't believe that our
29:46
government hasn't done enough to get rid of this ice.
29:49
Even our local government filled us this.
29:51
Ice is just terrible for people, it's ruining lives.
29:55
Abolish it. So fuck yeah, fuck the ice.
29:59
But they don't have to worry about that this in this season
30:03
because we're going to be going from spring to October in this
30:06
movie. And they they see the first
30:10
kill. This is what we're seeing.
30:12
This is when it all started. Nobody, nobody realized what was
30:15
going to happen this summer. So we see Arne on the railroad
30:18
tracks. He is drinking, singing about
30:21
once Rheingold. He is also drinking Rheingold.
30:24
And then he gets his capitated. Yeah, it's a really cool shot.
30:29
You know, he's over there, he gets out and all of a sudden he
30:32
sees like a big footprint and he's like, what the fuck?
30:34
And then just, like, wax his head off.
30:37
And that was a really cool shot. They did a really good drop with
30:39
that fake head. Yeah.
30:40
It kind of reminded me of Hereditary because, like, we
30:42
just cut to it being found the next day in the sunlight.
30:44
And it was just. Yeah, I feel like Ari Astor took
30:47
that shot from here. You know what?
30:50
I hope he did. Yeah.
30:52
I love just this lore that we've built in our head for Ari Astor.
30:56
He was inspired by Hereditary. He was inspired for Hereditary
31:00
by Silvery Bullet, and he was inspired for Midsummer by Wrong.
31:04
Turn 6 will not be told I am incorrect about any of these.
31:09
I want us to meet him someday and he'll be like, I've heard
31:12
your podcast. Like you guys win.
31:14
You guys understand? You guys, you get it.
31:17
Thank you. OK, Janie is 15, Marty is 11.
31:22
And they aren't the Tigers Mill celebration.
31:25
I don't know if there's like in like a town celebration, like a
31:28
Centennial. It's seven, it's 1976.
31:30
So it could just be like the country bicentennial.
31:32
It just seems like the County Fair type thing.
31:34
Yeah, and Janie is, you know, she's 15.
31:38
She's showing off her cute little skirt to a boy she likes.
31:42
And Marty's friend Brody is like, hey, let's play a prank on
31:45
your sister Janie. And so they kind of drop a snake
31:49
in front of her. She falls, rips her hose, and
31:53
then they do it again and she falls into a puddle.
31:55
And she's really upset. And her parents tell her that
31:58
she has no right to be upset because Marty's in a wheelchair.
32:02
I feel bad for her. Last child.
32:04
Yeah, I I feel bad for her because like Marty didn't want
32:07
to do it. Marty's like OK, we can prank on
32:09
her, but let's not be too hard. And then Brody goes too hard 2
32:12
times. Yeah, and he's trying to make up
32:14
for it in the backseat of the car, but she does not want to
32:17
hear any of it. I am going to call bullshit on
32:19
this because that night he he comes and gives her some money
32:24
for he's like just some new pantyhose.
32:26
How much do they cost? I just want to help you replace
32:28
them. She goes.
32:29
I can get them for a dollar. I can get a pair of legs at for
32:32
$1.49 down at the pharmacy. I can get a pair of legs for
32:35
$0.79 at Walmart in 2026. There isn't.
32:39
She is cheating him out of. Pharmacies are fucking expensive
32:43
for shit though. I still still the legs, they
32:46
come in the little plastic egg thing.
32:48
I will show you at Walmart later today.
32:50
Please do. But before that they also yes,
32:54
she she had some harsh words because she was mad at him.
32:56
She's like, well. She's covered in blood.
32:58
And I want to say perhaps to the costume department because the
33:00
way it dried, it looked like, you know, caked up clay.
33:04
Yeah. At the time they get home.
33:06
But she is. She's like, oh, and by the way,
33:08
Uncle Uncle Red is getting another divorce.
33:11
Yeah. He's a, he's a chronic drunk.
33:13
Nobody likes him, you know, And she's saying that because Uncle
33:16
Red is Marty's. Guy and she she apologizes.
33:20
She was like that and she doesn't apologize for saying it
33:22
because it's true, but she apologizes for the way she said
33:24
it. She is.
33:25
She's going to go far. The force #3 Who's this guy,
33:28
Ross? Oh, and it's also important to
33:35
know this is how we found out about the the woman with the
33:38
baby. Because when Janie is like
33:39
hiding in the bushes after she's gotten covered in mud, she sees
33:43
this woman telling this man that she's pregnant.
33:46
It's his baby. And he was like, I ain't.
33:49
My bun in your oven. Not my lover.
33:52
And Michael Jackson overheard it and.
33:54
That's where that came from, yeah.
33:56
He's like, right? The camera pans over just a
33:58
little bit of Michael Jackson. Take notes, all right?
34:04
It's also where you got the idea for thriller, this movie, right?
34:06
Exactly. Yeah.
34:08
So I don't know if like that's why I just have this like he
34:11
doesn't want to take accountability for the child
34:13
because it will like reveal his affair.
34:16
I might spend too much time on Reddit, I don't know.
34:18
But I mean, it's plausible. Head can, yeah, it could be.
34:21
We don't know. It's a bad situation whenever it
34:24
is. Yeah, she's taking it hard
34:26
though, cuz she goes home that night while her mom plays hymns
34:29
on the piano downstairs and she dumps out.
34:32
This is a very sorry trigger warning, going to talk about
34:36
suicide, but it's a very aesthetic moment.
34:38
She's got this beautiful ceramic plate she dumps these bright red
34:41
pills on. She thought about it, a crystal
34:42
glass she's drinking the water from.
34:45
But if you need help, please seek out help resources.
34:47
Don't take me talking about this aesthetic and condoning their
34:51
actions because I think that people deserve to live and they
34:54
deserve to get help that they that they need because I don't
34:57
think anybody should have to live feeling the way she's
35:01
feeling in that moment. Yeah, she's, she's bummed about
35:04
what happened and she's like, well, you know.
35:06
She's like they. They say suicide is a way to not
35:10
like you won't get into heaven by suicide, but.
35:12
Go to hell, especially if you're pregnant.
35:14
Yeah, so she's like, whatever, you know?
35:16
And then the werewolf said not on my watch.
35:19
Reverend's like I've got you. Yeah, he, like you can see it's
35:23
the werewolf is stalking outside and it climbs up the the.
35:26
What do you call this? Lattice.
35:28
Lattice. I was I was going to call it
35:29
lattice. I might be saying it wrong.
35:31
It's one of those words that I've seen written down but never
35:34
heard out loud. You know what?
35:36
We've been watching a lot of Jeopardy lately and it realized.
35:38
It's made me realize a lot of words I do not know how to
35:41
pronounce. Story of my life.
35:45
But yeah, he climbs up that, bounces through the window, rips
35:49
her up. This is kind of like Nightmare
35:50
Before or Nightmare on Elm Street right here.
35:52
Yeah, mom downstairs goes to get her gun and she's a responsible
35:57
gun owner. She's got the gun and the bullet
35:58
sword in different places. Not so great for a break in
36:02
situation because by the time she's got the gun loaded and
36:04
she's upstairs it it's all over. Yep, finds a body up there.
36:09
Sheriff Joe Haller talks to Pete.
36:12
He says that the state detectives are coming in and
36:16
Pete goes to the bar and. I mean, I love the scene though,
36:19
because like, he's on the phone with the detective and like, he
36:22
ends up like fuck off. And I like how Pete's just like
36:25
Joe. I don't think it was a good idea
36:28
to tell the detective to fuck off.
36:30
He's like he. Was already shut.
36:32
He had already hung up. I just love that delivery like
36:36
Joe. Yeah, and but you know what?
36:39
Pete's loyal. He's true.
36:40
He was at the bar that night. Andy.
36:42
What's his name? Andy.
36:43
Andy Fairfield. I think that's right.
36:46
I just called him Andy, but he's a little.
36:48
He's a town shitster. Yeah, they've all decided 2
36:51
murders means a serial killer and that Joe Haller doesn't know
36:56
his ass from Pete's. So, you know, they're, they're
37:01
just, they don't have any faith in him.
37:03
Yeah, and Pete tries to speak up and say hey, excuse me, but we
37:07
have. Then Andy says something about
37:09
like how his taxes pay the shares salary.
37:13
And then somebody is like, well, that's interesting because the
37:16
last report I had said that you were arrears in taxes.
37:19
I like that guy speaking up there.
37:20
He's like, excuse me, but then we have I was.
37:23
Tyranny. Yes.
37:24
So look up with the actor. Yeah, this guy right here, holy
37:28
shit. He's a good guy.
37:29
Just. To see Lawrence tyranny pop up
37:30
in this movie, I'm like, shit, he's holding up a baseball bat.
37:34
This is Peacemaker. I'm gonna stop fighting in your
37:36
presence. He I know him mostly like he's
37:41
Elaine's dad and Seinfeld. He made Jerry Seinfeld and Jason
37:45
Alexander super uncomfortable because he was like seriously
37:48
unhinged on set. He seems like a scary guy to be
37:51
around in general. Yeah, no, he's, he's got that
37:54
air of intimidation about him for sure.
37:56
Yeah, so he he breaks it up and they all get along.
37:59
Yeah, Marty is at his last day of school.
38:03
Everybody's leaving, saying their goodbyes, and he's going
38:06
to walk Tammy home. You know, his uncle has updated
38:10
the chair some. He took off the muffler, which
38:17
you know what this tracks for Small southern town bullshit
38:22
kind of stuff, because if it wasn't a wheelchair, in five
38:26
years it would be a lifted pickup truck.
38:28
Oh my God. Yeah, yeah.
38:32
But yeah, they're, they're walking home and they walked
38:35
past where the woman was killed at her house.
38:38
And the cops are all over there. They're boarding up the window
38:40
on the second floor. And then Tammy tells them that
38:43
she hears weird sounds coming from their shed, flash
38:46
greenhouse or whatever, and it makes her, makes her nervous and
38:49
he's like, well, I'd offer to go check.
38:51
She goes, no, it's covered in mud, you'd get caught.
38:53
And her dad's in the doorway saying that it's stuff I'm not
38:58
going to repeat. He's just like, he's cursing
39:00
about Marty, basically being like Marty.
39:04
Yeah. All it is.
39:05
Like oh man, he's in a wheelchair, must automatically
39:08
be a bad person. Never mind the fact that he
39:10
fucking walked my child home from school and is clearly her
39:13
friend. Yeah, so Marty, he, he, he pulls
39:16
up at the gas station. Gotta fill her up.
39:19
I'd like to find out that this is the second movie within a
39:22
month where Corey Haim has left his gal's home and her dad got
39:28
killed by a mysterious. Oh my God, you're right.
39:33
Wow, Corey Haim. Do it.
39:36
Corey Haim's characters are just a They're dead.
39:40
Yeah. I'm not going to go and talk to
39:41
Corey Haim, the person. Yeah.
39:43
You're. Not you will, Yeah.
39:44
Yeah, unless you don't like your dad.
39:46
You know, like in Tammy's situation here.
39:49
Yeah, I feel like she probably got into a better situation
39:53
after that. Her life improved.
39:54
Yeah, Yeah. For sure, 'cause that.
39:57
Oh, let's see, that night, after he's gone to the gas station to
40:01
fill up his chair, Marty and Red are playing cards.
40:05
They're betting using baseball cards, so it's double cards.
40:08
I was wondering what that was 'cause they were saying baseball
40:10
teams and. Yeah, I just assumed that that's
40:12
what they were betting with 'cause they were also playing
40:14
poker. I will agree with Red here.
40:16
Fuck the Yankees. I figured he would have.
40:19
Some. I'm more on the fuck the Dodgers
40:21
train right now though. Fuck the Dodgers, fuck you guys.
40:24
Yeah, I hear this so much. Just fuck them.
40:27
I I don't like them one bit. But yeah, they're playing the
40:30
game. Red's drinking and.
40:34
Nan is not amused. Nan is the mom, yeah.
40:39
Yeah, and so Marty goes upstairs.
40:41
He's got to go upstairs. She got ready for bed with the
40:44
help of Jane. They've got one of those chairs,
40:46
stairlift, and I looked it up because this is the second time
40:49
we've talked about one of these on the show.
40:52
And I looked up the cost and in 2026, estimates can go from
40:56
about 2500 to 5000 for a straight single story staircase.
41:02
When you have like a, a, what is it?
41:05
The circular staircase? Spiral.
41:07
Yeah, spiral. Thank you.
41:09
The next word out of my mouth was going to be Helix, so I
41:11
appreciate that like that gets really expensive.
41:16
It's. Long.
41:16
I can imagine that's a little bit more complex.
41:18
Yeah, yeah. But just in case anybody is
41:20
wondering like I was, yeah. Now you know.
41:23
Yeah, and so Nan is fighting with Red.
41:25
Yeah, they're arguing about how to how they each treat Marty.
41:29
Red's just trying to treat him like a normal kid, you know,
41:32
like, he's just, he is a normal kid.
41:34
And that's his argument. And Nan's like, it's easy for
41:36
you to say because you just come in here.
41:38
You show up once a month and you come over here and play some
41:41
games and then you just leave. But we have to live here and we
41:44
like we see what he goes through every day.
41:46
Yeah, and also like you're showing him how to give up.
41:50
That was fucking harsh. It was harsh, but.
41:55
She's like, he's like, he's not giving up.
41:57
It's like, well, she, he doesn't need you to show him how to
41:59
like. Oh my God, sister.
42:01
Big fight. Big fight.
42:04
Meanwhile, over at Tammy's house, where your dad is drunk
42:07
and watching wrestling, which is probably the only time in this
42:10
moment I will relate to this man.
42:13
And he hears the noises outside, grabs his gun, because that's
42:17
what every drunk person needs, is a gun rack with fully loaded
42:21
guns. And he goes outside.
42:23
He checks the greenhouse and it's a nice spooky atmosphere
42:28
and you think something's going to pop out from behind one of
42:30
the plants, but no, under the floor.
42:33
Yeah, just reaches up there, pulls him down under and stabs
42:36
him with one of the boards. It's.
42:38
Really cool. A lot of the the next day, the
42:41
mayor decides to question Haller, 'cause he's like, what's
42:45
going on with your investigation?
42:46
Like what was happening? Do we have anything to go off
42:50
of? The mayor is very concerned
42:51
about this. Marty and Brody are flying kites
42:55
and Marty has to get his out of the tree, and Brody apparently
43:01
just treats him like a normal kid.
43:03
So yeah, he's like. I think I often get yourself.
43:05
I was watching this video yesterday and it was like if
43:07
wheelchair users acted the way non wheelchair users did and it
43:11
was this man who's like looking at stuff in Home Depot and this
43:14
woman in this wheelchair goes can I help you Sir?
43:17
Is there anything I can get for you?
43:19
Don't be proud let me help. And like, it's just like was
43:23
just him going down different aisles and her just like getting
43:26
closer and like, come on, you can tell you need the
43:29
assistance. Yeah, it's really cool.
43:35
Jane comes up. Yeah.
43:36
It's supper time. Yeah, you gotta come home.
43:38
Yeah, apparently like Mom's mad. Yeah, it's man, isn't me back
43:42
cuz I'm I'm from the era where our rule was when the street
43:46
lights come on, that's when you go back home and that's kind of
43:50
the situation. This is for them.
43:52
I didn't have St. lights. I was out in the country.
43:56
But yeah, yeah, I get it. Yeah.
43:57
You know, come home, you know, whatever.
43:58
And no. So they do.
44:00
And Brody's like, no, it's cool. Like I'm, I'm going to stay back
44:03
and hang and continue to fly my kite.
44:05
Yeah. And Marty just gives him this
44:07
long look. He's like, like he knows
44:09
something. He's sensing something is going
44:11
to happen. It is like what happened.
44:14
It's the same vibes I got when we were watching Dragon Ball
44:19
and. Goku looks at Krillin.
44:21
Goku looks at Krillin cuz Krillin's getting Gokie at.
44:24
His arm. Before him.
44:26
That's exactly what this is from.
44:28
And he is just staring at him and I'm like, this stare feels
44:32
like foreshadowing. And it is.
44:34
You know, I wouldn't actually be surprised if that was like,
44:36
Toriana lifted a lot of shit from American movies, especially
44:40
like these types of movies. Maybe that did come from them.
44:43
I don't know. I I would love that.
44:45
I would too. Yeah, so we got Mariaster Kira
44:49
Toriyama. Who else has been inspired by
44:52
Silver Bullet? Everybody.
44:53
Michael Jackson especially. Though Yeah, God, can't forget
44:56
Michael Jackson. Although in my world he's just
44:59
actually in the movie. Just always off camera.
45:04
So yeah, like we cut and they fight.
45:09
Somebody, they're at the bar again and he's still running his
45:11
mouth about how Haller can't even find like a single
45:15
detective and Deputy Pete is confronting him again and
45:18
they're about to fight. But then Brady said her buns and
45:20
he goes, my son, he's missing. And then we cut to Haller at the
45:26
park. Just this kite that we had seen
45:31
Brody flying covered in a full bottle of ketchup.
45:36
Yeah, and he's just saying prayers to himself.
45:39
Like you know what they found? He looks over at the gazebo and
45:44
we see something or someone and we know it's not good, and
45:50
that's when Pete pulls up and he's got Herb with him and
45:56
Holler tries to stop him from going over there.
45:58
He's like Herb, you don't want to do this.
45:59
That's one of those moments where you don't want to, but you
46:03
feel like you got to. Yeah, that's one of those that
46:05
like you feel sick every step of the way, but you have to see it
46:09
to know that it's real. Yeah.
46:12
And that's what he does. Like the man.
46:21
Can act pretty well, but not with the sorrow.
46:24
He's not good with emotion. Yeah, it's just not his strong
46:27
suit. At the funeral, Reverend Lowe
46:31
says that the face of the beast always becomes known, so he is
46:36
foreshadowing his own fate. Red offers to drive Marty home.
46:42
And Marty's like, hey, I think maybe a monster's doing this.
46:46
And Red, who was drinking during the funeral.
46:49
He almost did. He he second guess it.
46:51
He he snuck out the flask and almost took a sip.
46:54
He's like, I better not. Well, who sees his nephew, who
46:59
he's very close to, who's just left the funeral of his best
47:03
friend and laughs in his face? Yeah, Yeah.
47:07
But then he does kind of, like, clear it up a little bit.
47:10
And he was like, listen, it it is a monster, but it's a human
47:13
monster. It's a psychopath.
47:15
Yeah. Then we get the Haddonfield
47:19
Express. Yep, there's a mob format at the
47:22
bar and it's led by Andy. He's trying to get it.
47:26
And this is where Joe steps in. He's the head police chief or
47:31
whatever. What you guys are talking about
47:34
is, and in my note I wrote vigilantism because that's what
47:37
this is. And he goes private justice.
47:42
Mine was better. Yeah, I, I agree.
47:44
I also like, you know, I would watch that show.
47:47
Yeah, Private Justice, that daytime TV courtroom show,
47:52
Absolutely. We'd watch Private Justice.
47:53
It's probably being filmed right down the road at like studios as
47:56
we speak. Surely.
47:58
But you know, this is a really good scene.
48:00
I like both performances here because Joe, he has a very
48:02
compelling argument here. He's like, look, I see what you
48:04
guys are doing, but you know what?
48:06
As far as it's concerned, I am the law in this town.
48:10
You guys are not going to be doing this shit.
48:12
It would be. A lot more convincing if we saw
48:14
him actually do something though.
48:16
Yeah, it's true. He had them here, He had them.
48:19
But they're one guy in the moment that you can not argue
48:22
against because Andy's like, look, shut up, Joe.
48:25
And like, whatever. But then from the back, Herb is
48:27
like, yeah, Joe, shut up. Then he gives this very
48:31
impassioned speech about how they didn't even have all of the
48:34
pieces of his boy to bury. He's like, how about you go dig
48:39
the pieces of my boy up and explain to him about private
48:44
justice? I understand what he's saying
48:46
here, but I don't understand how this applies like.
48:50
Yeah, because at first it almost feels like he's on Haller's
48:52
side. Yeah, that's what I thought too.
48:54
But like, I mean, it's just very quickly, not like, so you are
48:57
wanting everybody to go look for this thing.
48:59
Yeah. Yeah, OK.
49:00
Except he doesn't go out to the woods with them, which is good
49:02
for Herb. What he said he was going to.
49:06
He said he's going to go look. He didn't go to the woods, I
49:09
guess, yeah. So we have a few groups of
49:12
hunters, 1 is just a duo in one of the fellows steps into a bear
49:16
trap and the other guy's trying to get him out.
49:18
This is just like, I appreciate this because like we don't have
49:21
to do this, but we're going to give you some more like a
49:23
special effects score right here.
49:24
Because he steps in that and like something catches their
49:27
attention and they jump and he accidentally like twists his leg
49:30
and they just like just like, Oh yeah.
49:33
Wasn't necessary for the story, but I liked.
49:35
It leg trauma, by the way, I think because Travis made me
49:37
watch the opening game for one of the college baseball teams.
49:41
This guy had a two run home run and he was celebrating and
49:44
jumped while he was running first base and he broke his
49:48
fucking leg rounding first base. It's like he grew a second knee
49:52
in the middle of his shin. That's not how legs are meant to
49:55
bend. It was.
49:55
Bad it. Was bad.
49:57
He didn't even get to score it. Was a jump scare.
49:59
I'd had a sip of coffee and Travis was like, hey, watch
50:01
this. Some crazy shit happened
50:05
yesterday in baseball. I'm just going to say that's
50:08
just the tip of the icebreaker. I think I'm not even lying, you
50:13
know, it's. Even crazier, what baseball
50:17
season just ended? It's February.
50:20
This is college, OK? The the college year ends here
50:24
in a couple of months. We don't got much more time.
50:29
Baseball is not a real sport. It is.
50:31
Okay, so the group, group, yeah, they're in the woods and it's
50:35
foggy and they're just wandering around.
50:38
They good. This is Murder Mist.
50:39
It is, this is very sinister. And they're like, I sense
50:43
something here. I hear it and they hear
50:45
something crawling around. One of them goes.
50:47
It's after the. And that Spooks everybody.
50:52
Well, because he said it so scary and convincingly, and then
50:56
as soon as he said it. Pulls the dude down, throws him
51:00
up against the tree. The other guy, he gets pulled
51:02
and then he gets his head just like ripped off and then held up
51:06
for everybody else to see. And then he goes over to the
51:09
bartender. I can't remember the bartender's
51:10
name, but he takes. That's just just Lawrence
51:13
Tierney. Yeah.
51:14
And he takes the Peacemaker and he just starts using it.
51:16
I like this. I like the fact that the
51:18
werewolf used a weapon. Yeah.
51:20
Like he starts to just whacking at him with the baseball bat,
51:23
and then Andy runs away and a couple of others do, too, and
51:26
they make it out alive. Yeah.
51:29
And I think it's funny because even though Andy wasn't hurt in
51:33
this attack, he shuts his fucking mouth for the rest of.
51:36
The movie does not see shit the rest of the movie, so another
51:39
funeral. Yeah, I can't tell when it goes
51:41
from reality to dream here. I can't either, but the reverend
51:46
is up there. He's got to give another speech.
51:48
He's looking more sweaty this time.
51:50
Very nervous, like the townsfroker just staring at him.
51:54
He's having a hard time speaking, which I get it, but
51:58
also like, I'm not a reverend for a living.
52:01
This, this us talking to strangers on the Internet.
52:04
Guess what? We edit like I can.
52:07
I fucked up so many times already today.
52:10
I'm just going to delete all of that.
52:12
You guys won't be any of the wiser when this comes out on
52:14
Thursday. But the reverend, this is his
52:17
life. This is his calling, his
52:19
passion. But he's getting nervous and
52:21
he's watching these townsfolk and he's trying to make them
52:23
feel better, but then they all start turning into werewolves.
52:26
And this should have been the hint.
52:27
This should have been the hint that he was the werewolf.
52:30
Yeah, but but then again, you can also say I don't know, he's
52:32
just freaking out. But you know who else knows?
52:35
It's the. Werewolf.
52:35
Maybe he'll join forces with Marty and Jane.
52:38
Yeah, yeah. So the the Tarker's Mills Galla
52:43
Fairer has cancelled its fireworks, and it seems the fair
52:47
itself is just actually fully cancelled.
52:50
And then we hear on the radio that the sheriff has encouraged
52:53
folks to follow the curfew, but not to leave town.
52:57
Yeah. Don't run away.
52:59
It's a it's a ghost sound out there too.
53:00
All the streets are empty. But I mean also, it is the end
53:03
of summer. This is when people do like
53:05
vacations. That's true.
53:08
So we see no. It almost feels like the mayor
53:11
in jaws like doesn't want to lose the the revenue.
53:17
Yeah, well, the family that was doing this, this is around the
53:20
time of Jaws. If it's in the 70s, you know
53:22
they they leave the werewolf and go to the shark.
53:24
Man, Can you imagine? You're like, you know what?
53:27
No, we're just we're going to go to the coast.
53:29
Yeah, we're getting away from this.
53:30
We need a. Vacation Amity Island sounds
53:32
amazing. Sounds super friendly and
53:34
welcoming. Yeah, oh boy.
53:38
All right, so now we see the family.
53:39
They're all grilling over at their house.
53:41
So having a good time, enjoying summer.
53:45
I need to add this to our list of ugly because red refers to
53:49
this dish later as pork tartar. Sir, that's just food poisoning
53:53
at that point. What is pork tartar?
53:55
Tartar means rare. Oh, really?
53:57
Yeah, that's steak tartar is like basically blue, I think.
54:02
Gross. From what I understand, you must
54:05
remember it's been half my life I've not eaten meat.
54:08
I've been me my whole life and I don't know what this shit, so
54:11
it's OK. Well, you don't like pink or red
54:14
in your food, Yeah. You're right.
54:17
Yeah. So, yeah, they're doing that.
54:19
Red is working on something for Marty in the garage.
54:22
He's keeping it hidden. He's keeping it hidden but this
54:25
is also weird because it's the cause a lot of this house so.
54:28
Yeah, like how he must have, like, brought it over and it's
54:30
like finishing. Putting I'm picturing it like
54:33
software type of like piece by piece situations making it in.
54:37
Yeah, and he's like, OK, what? He's like your best friend died.
54:44
Yeah, your best gal left town. Fares cancelled, fireworks are
54:48
cancelled. But I got something that'll make
54:50
you feel better. I love is like, tell me I'm not.
54:53
It's just like, I love this. This is great.
54:55
And this to me, it starts to turn into like I would like to
54:58
see the laws in the town for what constitutes a street
55:03
vehicle. I want to know, is Marty like
55:07
legally allowed to operate? I.
55:09
Think this is one of those things where small towns will
55:11
start a blind eye. Yeah.
55:13
I don't think that they care about this situation here.
55:16
Because like, I know Lexington has very specific laws about
55:19
what can and cannot be written on the sidewalk versus bike lane
55:23
versus street. Yeah, well, nobody pays
55:25
attention to that. Well, no, it doesn't actually
55:27
matter. I just know that the laws exist.
55:29
Yeah, yeah. And this thing is fast.
55:32
So he's like, OK, what? He's like, don't tell your mom
55:34
how fast is. This Yeah, and I I love this
55:37
he's like, all right, go take it for a spin.
55:38
And he like peels out and like just seeing red go through all
55:43
of the emotions of grief. He's like he's dead the entire
55:47
time when he. Comes back, he's like, listen, I
55:50
love you. It would kill me if you killed
55:53
yourself on this. Fair.
55:55
That's a good way to tell him to just be chill because he's like,
55:58
OK, that means a lot. But I I got to ask a question
56:01
because we see like it looks like Corey Haim actually did all
56:06
the writing on this thing. Because anytime I don't, I
56:08
didn't recognize any stunt people for that.
56:11
And there's a moment where he fucking willies the thing.
56:14
Yeah. Nothing is going fast.
56:16
I couldn't. He's not even wearing a helmet.
56:18
I was I was in a bit of disbelief at them allowing this
56:23
to go. I don't think you could do this
56:25
today. Yeah, no, it'd definitely be a
56:28
bit more of a tricky situation today, but yeah, I think this
56:34
was before Lost Boys, wasn't it? This is 85.
56:37
Lost Boys was 87, so I. Was going to say maybe Jason
56:42
Patrick like taught him how to drive a bike on set.
56:45
It could be being as on set, yeah.
56:48
Lost Boys 87. OK, yeah.
56:51
So yeah, they make it back and then, you know, it looks like,
56:54
hey, things have finally been repaired between Red and Nan
56:57
because they are having a nice moment.
56:58
I think what is implied here is he has quit drinking or how he's
57:02
presenting it to them. Yeah, he's a.
57:04
Sober guy now. Yeah, he's if not fully sober,
57:07
more sober. Yeah, he's not actively drinking
57:10
around. Them.
57:11
And he's got one last thing for Marty before he leaves and it's
57:15
fireworks. He said save the rocket for
57:18
last. Trust me on that.
57:20
And then this answer is all of the questions of our household
57:25
during these holidays where we're like, who is still setting
57:28
off fireworks at 2:00 AM? Apparently it's 11 year olds who
57:33
were given fireworks by their quasi drunken uncle.
57:37
That's exactly what it is. At least he takes the time he
57:40
goes out to the woods. So thank God this isn't
57:44
California, 'cause that's just asking for a forest fire.
57:48
And he's setting them off and he starts to feel something and.
57:54
We see like we're getting some POV shots of the wolf, the
57:57
werewolf stalking in the woods too.
58:00
Yeah, and he is about to light the rocket and then the werewolf
58:04
comes out of him. He turns around, shoots it, goes
58:07
into the werewolf side. Boom.
58:08
Doesn't kill him, but it will make it easier to figure out who
58:13
is the werewolf. Yeah, he also gives him a chance
58:15
to be able to speed out of there.
58:17
So he rides, he gets out of there and makes it back to his
58:20
house. And the next morning he calls
58:21
Red. And Red doesn't believe this
58:24
still. He's woken up drunk.
58:26
Yeah, next to random woman. Random woman.
58:29
We don't. Even know who it is.
58:31
So Marty talks to Jane and in her voice over, she said that
58:35
she believed most of it. And she can she could tell that
58:39
Marty believed all of it. So she agrees to do a little
58:41
Recon for him. She's got to collect recyclable
58:44
cans and bottles for the Med Q drive smart.
58:47
And yeah, so she's just going around checking to see who's got
58:50
one eye. And this is how we know Andy is
58:52
still alive because she goes into the Barber shop.
58:55
He is there, literally hiding his face in shame.
58:58
I like all these shots though, like the way that this whole
59:00
thing is done. It's just like the way that the
59:02
camera moves and it's just like glancing on everybody's face and
59:06
the way everybody's just looking at her.
59:07
Everybody's so suspicious of each other.
59:09
Yeah, yeah, I like this whole lot.
59:11
This is the end of the season of traitors like everybody's like.
59:15
Yeah, you, you, you. And then she's all but giving up
59:20
at this point. So she's like, all right, I'm
59:21
taking the. She's seen the entire town.
59:23
And so she gets to the church to drop her stuff off.
59:26
And Reverend Lowe, who's like working on the garden, he's
59:28
like, what's the matter? She goes, just my stupid
59:29
brother. He goes, yes, brothers are
59:32
stupid. Yep.
59:33
And you see. The iPad, it's just a it's just
59:38
a Jimmy Simpson like cotton pad. Over his like he actually drew
59:42
the eye on it. I don't love that.
59:48
Yeah, yeah. And so she goes and she unloads
59:51
her stuff and I like how this is all honours is so.
59:53
Good. Wait, hold on.
59:54
I gotta say though, just I I was curious about the director
59:58
because they say that he went on the direct OITV.
1:00:01
He directed a lot of It's Always Sunny.
1:00:03
You know what? I'd like to think it was his
1:00:05
idea to do the eye that. It might have been.
1:00:08
He did a lot of episodes that we he did a lot of episodes.
1:00:11
Oh, really? Yeah.
1:00:12
So I don't know, it could have like could have been, could have
1:00:15
been a part of that right there. It's like, you know what?
1:00:18
I like you. Know what I'm editing?
1:00:20
I don't care. I'm going to pull this up on
1:00:21
IMDb real quick, all right. Underage drinking a national
1:00:24
concern, Gun fever. The gang finds a dead guy.
1:00:29
Gang goes jihad. Dennis and D go on welfare shit.
1:00:34
Mac bangs Dennis's mom $100 baby.
1:00:38
The gang gives back. The gang exploits a miracle.
1:00:41
The gang runs for OK basically all of season 2.
1:00:45
Charlie goes America all over everybody's ass.
1:00:49
Dennis and do you get a new dad? Mac and Dennis buy a timeshare
1:00:54
the gang say is the day. Flowers for Charlie and the Gang
1:00:57
makes Lethal Weapon 6. OK.
1:01:00
So it's not any of those episodes, unfortunately.
1:01:02
Unfortunately not. I don't even think there was
1:01:04
Mcpoiles in any of those episodes.
1:01:06
Season 2, it's got to have some Mcpoiles.
1:01:09
Well, that's true. Yeah.
1:01:10
OK. Now that we've done that very
1:01:13
important work. Yeah, so she she goes into the
1:01:16
shed to drop off the bottles. Yeah, he says.
1:01:18
Just put them in the shed and give me your tally sheet.
1:01:20
So I appreciate how this is all on our system, which I get that
1:01:23
it's for church. Church people can lie.
1:01:25
Yeah, for sure, as we see with this guy.
1:01:28
Yeah, so she goes in there and she falls and falls into a bunch
1:01:31
of the recycling. Janie just stays fallen.
1:01:35
Yeah, she's a bit clumsy. Not very good on her feet.
1:01:38
But this is a little miracle in disguise, because she happens to
1:01:42
find the Peacemaker broken off. Amongst the rubble they shoot
1:01:46
up. Yeah, and she freaks out.
1:01:49
And then I just love this whole thing with like, Reverend.
1:01:52
He's so fucking creepy in this moment.
1:01:54
Yeah, he comes and basically like corners her in the shed and
1:01:59
we discover he is the Cyclops. Yeah, he's, he's trying to get
1:02:02
her to come. Yeah, he's like, he's like, come
1:02:04
inside for a soda. Yeah, I will give you a ride
1:02:09
home. And she's just like, no play.
1:02:12
It a little bit cooler, Jane. She, she does the best she could
1:02:15
in that moment because now she's like 100% team Marty.
1:02:18
She's like, all right, the. The thing is though, she I think
1:02:21
she tips him off because she's like, tell your brother, give
1:02:24
him my best. That's ominous.
1:02:29
So Marty constructs A disturbing letter to the Reverend and mails
1:02:33
this. I forgot about this.
1:02:35
He's like, we know who you are, we know what you are, why don't
1:02:38
you kill yourself? Leaky Laura, kill yourself.
1:02:41
Like what the fuck? But The thing is, this is like,
1:02:44
what else do I expect from a little 11 year old kid, you
1:02:47
know? This is like this is it.
1:02:49
This is why I heard this shit in Call of Duty when I was 11 also.
1:02:54
It ties into our Final Destination franchise coverage
1:02:57
right now, because somebody in every movie inevitably is like,
1:02:59
well, if you want to break the chain, you could just.
1:03:01
Yeah, you're right. You're right.
1:03:02
Yeah, so they send him that, and we find out through Jane's
1:03:08
narration that they've sent, like, several.
1:03:10
Yeah, they just keep doing it. And then they finally tell Red
1:03:13
and he's like, wow. So I don't want to be involved
1:03:16
in the prosecution of this crime.
1:03:18
Yeah, it's like you guys are sending little love letters to
1:03:20
the Reverend over here and you think he's a fucking werewolf.
1:03:24
Now he says the most devastating thing that I feel like only a
1:03:29
well loved family member can get away with, which is sometimes I
1:03:32
wonder if your common sense wasn't also paralyzed.
1:03:38
Brutal. Harsh.
1:03:39
That was harsh. If that had come from anybody,
1:03:42
if I read, I think it would have like destroyed Marty.
1:03:45
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they, they stand firm on it.
1:03:50
They're like, look, because he's like Jane, do you believe this
1:03:52
is like, look? I don't think I believe all of
1:03:55
it, but I believe something's up with the Reverend at least.
1:03:57
And Marty says, I know he's coming for me.
1:04:01
I know it's going to happen. And we see the next day, maybe
1:04:05
that's the next day we don't have, I think.
1:04:07
It's later that day they're they're.
1:04:09
It's later. Yeah, they're stocking the
1:04:10
reverend. They're watching them from afar,
1:04:12
from the car. And then later on, Marty is
1:04:16
watching a baseball game. He's going to go.
1:04:19
I this was interesting to me, too, because it almost looked
1:04:22
like he was watching the baseball game.
1:04:23
And you get that sense, like he's very sad, like he can't
1:04:25
play with the kids. I think with his wheelchair he
1:04:28
could play. He could.
1:04:29
Be an outfielder. He could round the bases like
1:04:31
you go fast enough for that thing.
1:04:32
I don't think you're cheating with that thing like.
1:04:34
I don't feel like he'd be able to get a good stance to bat
1:04:36
though. If he used the silver bullet, I
1:04:38
think he would not do well. He he could bat.
1:04:43
I mean, a batting is a lot of like, you know, power with the
1:04:45
hips. So I don't know how you'd shift
1:04:47
your way, but I think you could like, like maybe get people play
1:04:51
baseball and you, you can do it. There has to be some adaptable
1:04:54
equipment out there. I I want to do some further
1:04:56
research on this I. I know it's a thing, but like,
1:04:59
he could play. I think he could play.
1:05:00
And what's interesting is it seems like the kids like having
1:05:03
him there, but it's just weird that he's not on the other side
1:05:05
of the fence. I think they're like, dude, you
1:05:07
got a fucking motorcycle, you cannot play with us, right?
1:05:10
That is. Cheesy.
1:05:11
Unfair. Yeah, like we're not saying is
1:05:14
PEDs, but. Yeah, like there is an
1:05:17
advantage. Here PE performance enhancing.
1:05:19
Equipment, all the kids were juicing okay, they were all
1:05:22
taking steroids too back. In the 70s it was just common.
1:05:26
This was the roid era by the way, so trust me, they were all
1:05:30
we all did it back then. So I like this too though.
1:05:35
Like he's watching, but then from the background you can just
1:05:37
see the Reverend's car just pull up and he's just watching him
1:05:40
from a. Distance and again, it's giving
1:05:43
Halloween vibes. It was giving me Halloween vibes
1:05:45
big time. And so he's going home.
1:05:48
And then love starts following him, has no qualms with, like,
1:05:53
showing his entire hand. So like, we both know.
1:05:55
We know. You know, I know you know.
1:05:57
I know, you know, I know, you know.
1:06:00
I got an. Eye patch.
1:06:01
Now I got to start acting on a Swiss.
1:06:03
Yeah, and so he starts trying to run money off the road.
1:06:06
And again, I have to go back to Dragon Ball because why do all
1:06:10
these people keep beefing with children?
1:06:12
This child knows his secret identity.
1:06:14
He's got to keep that shit protected.
1:06:16
Like this is way too intense and also inefficient because I feel
1:06:20
like there's got to be easier ways to take out kids.
1:06:23
True. I'm not, I'm not going to look
1:06:25
that up because that's suspicious, but.
1:06:27
Yeah, it was not. It was not.
1:06:28
Get that heat on us. Yeah, He tries to run him off
1:06:30
the bridge and he gets stuck. And then he tries.
1:06:33
He gets stuck on the bridge again, but then he manages to
1:06:35
pill out. Yeah.
1:06:36
Only problem is Marty's almost out of gas.
1:06:38
Yeah, so he ends up into this covered part of the bridge and
1:06:42
lo. It's a condemned bridge.
1:06:43
Yes. And Lo has to get out because he
1:06:45
can't drive his car into it. And he comes in there and he's
1:06:48
saying like he was doing good things, like he saved that woman
1:06:50
from committing suicide because that's a sin.
1:06:53
He he saved her soul. And he goes, and I could have
1:06:56
kept doing that if it weren't for you, you meddling little
1:07:00
shit. And the righteousness he has
1:07:03
when he says that is just the best acting from ever at McGill
1:07:07
in this. Movie.
1:07:08
This is a great scene. Like I was scared.
1:07:10
Yeah, it was really well done. But.
1:07:12
Then there's a tractor on the other side.
1:07:14
It's Mr. Zimmerman. And we didn't get a good look at
1:07:17
him and I did not check the names of the cast to verify.
1:07:20
Did the guy from the opening. No, it looked like the deputy
1:07:23
Pete. It did.
1:07:25
Yeah, it didn't look like that's me.
1:07:26
It looked like the guy from the opening that gets killed.
1:07:28
It sounded like Pete to me, but it probably isn't.
1:07:34
So yeah, Reverend backs out, leaves, so I'm already saved.
1:07:39
Yeah, and the red agrees that he will, he will talk to the
1:07:43
sheriff. And so he gets the police
1:07:45
station and. Oh, yeah.
1:07:47
First, though, he, he notices his like, he's not quite buying
1:07:51
the story, but he's like, whatever, like I'm sure
1:07:53
something weird is happening. But then he looks at the silver
1:07:55
bullet and he notices where there's some blue paint stuffed
1:07:59
on the side of it. It's dented and has some paint.
1:08:00
On it. And he's like, Jane, do you know
1:08:02
the color of Reverend Loewe's car?
1:08:04
She's like, yeah, it's blue. And boom, there we go.
1:08:07
So Haller agrees that he's going to go check out LO, and Howler's
1:08:12
probably a vampire because he just kind of goes around the
1:08:15
perimeter of the church, doesn't go in.
1:08:17
He does go to the shed and he sees enough in there that he's
1:08:22
ready to take LO in. He sees the car and he sees it's
1:08:25
dented and it's got silver on the side of it.
1:08:28
So he's like, all right, this is starting to add up.
1:08:30
And then Lo comes out from the shadows and he says it's not his
1:08:33
fault, and then he turns into a werewolf and he kills Howler and
1:08:38
nobody in the town cares. No, nobody talks about it.
1:08:42
Everybody hated him. She doesn't even get a funeral.
1:08:44
Talking about private justice. Well, you know what private
1:08:49
ironic justice now. Yeah.
1:08:52
So Marty asks Red to turn his medallion into a silver bullet,
1:08:58
and Jane offers her cross too, and he takes him 'cause that's
1:09:02
the only thing that's consistent in the lore, apparently.
1:09:04
Where wolf lore is much like the vampire lore, where there's a
1:09:07
lot of commonalities but very few actual consistencies.
1:09:10
But the only thing they found consistent was silver.
1:09:12
They they've figured out like, OK, like he may like, 'cause
1:09:18
he's like, how are you telling me this is happening?
1:09:19
Like it wasn't even a full moon yesterday.
1:09:21
But like, what if he's like that actually all the time?
1:09:23
But the more full the moon gets, the more wolf like he becomes.
1:09:28
Which Buffy uses that kind of lure.
1:09:30
Oh, does it? Yeah.
1:09:31
OK. I mean, if you think about Cuz,
1:09:32
like that was Oz's whole thing. It's like the wolf is always in
1:09:35
me. That's true.
1:09:36
I forgot about that, Yeah. Well, you've been trying to
1:09:39
forget. Yeah, I yeah, I've been
1:09:41
successful until now. Thank you very much.
1:09:44
Reopened that. Wound that was.
1:09:46
Yeah, that wound's reopened, goddamn it.
1:09:49
Sorry. Oh boy.
1:09:51
So yeah, they're like, OK, And Marty's like, and that's what I
1:09:54
think it's gonna happen. I think he's waiting for the
1:09:57
full moon. That way he can come from me
1:09:58
when he's full beast. Yep.
1:10:00
So Red gets this bullet made and this.
1:10:04
Is some magical shit. This right here, But this movie
1:10:08
becomes a book for a second. Well, and here's the thing I was
1:10:10
going to say, Stephen King got really into the art of bullet
1:10:13
making because there is a whole scene in the novel IT where they
1:10:18
are constructing the silver pellets to kill Pennywise.
1:10:21
Interesting. OK, so I like the mold and the
1:10:24
whole process of melting it down and hitting it with the hammer
1:10:27
and all of that. I was like, he put that he put
1:10:30
that research to good use. I I feel like it was implied
1:10:32
that this guy was kind of magical.
1:10:34
He knows, right? Yeah, but I mean, they said the
1:10:36
guy, he wasn't an ordinary. Yeah, he said.
1:10:39
He was the best in business. Then he goes because Red was
1:10:43
like, yeah, no, my nephew's gotten really into The Lone
1:10:46
Ranger and he goes this, you know, you don't have to make
1:10:49
such a high quality functioning bullet.
1:10:51
Like, you know, it's just a get a gag, A goof.
1:10:53
You know, what would I shoot with it anyway?
1:10:54
And the guy goes werewolf. Yeah, I like that he got it.
1:10:58
Yeah, he was like, yeah, no, like I, I live in Tigers Mills.
1:11:02
I get it. I know what's happening.
1:11:03
I've just been waiting for somebody.
1:11:04
I'm the bullet maker. Story rules.
1:11:06
I'm not allowed to be the one to count.
1:11:07
Yeah, no, but like I can't make my own bullets unless somebody
1:11:10
requests the bullet. I am a side.
1:11:12
I am a side character. A crucial 1.
1:11:15
Still a side character. Isn't APC he has to be given the
1:11:17
prompt, yeah. So the next full moon, it just
1:11:22
so happened that Red won a romantic getaway for two from
1:11:25
Publisher Clearinghouse. And since he just divorced from
1:11:28
Sheila, he decides to give it to Nan and Bob and Jane goes, did
1:11:32
you really win the getaway? He goes, Nope, but I did win
1:11:35
your subscription. A popular weekend.
1:11:36
That was cool. So, you know, like he traded his
1:11:39
sister to something nice and he also did actually win.
1:11:43
A party. For him.
1:11:46
And so it's like, yeah, I mean, look, I got him out.
1:11:47
It's full moon tonight. Let's just wait it out and we'll
1:11:50
see what happens. And they all fall asleep on the
1:11:52
couch and they wake up at about 2:50.
1:11:55
Because Red was smoking a cigarette and the ash like wakes
1:11:59
him up because it burns him. Yeah, well, that's cigarettes.
1:12:02
They had to start making them where they couldn't, like,
1:12:05
remain lit on their own without, you know, a drag on them because
1:12:09
enough people did that. Died.
1:12:11
Yeah. Dider got severely right that
1:12:13
way. Yeah, So, yeah, they're arguing
1:12:18
about it. And he's like, you guys need to
1:12:19
go to bed. I'll sit down here with this gun
1:12:21
like a Jackass. And Jane's, Jane sees the
1:12:25
werewolf in the window and she screams, and Red doesn't see it.
1:12:29
He looks through like he's looking pretty thoroughly.
1:12:31
He's like, you guys, this is ridiculous.
1:12:33
Like, I've got this silver bullet.
1:12:34
And to make his point, he takes it out of the gun and shows it
1:12:37
off. And then the lights are cut.
1:12:40
In that moment, why would he not just reload the bullet?
1:12:43
But he doesn't. He doesn't, and he's like, well,
1:12:45
it might just be a fuse. And Jane and Marty always say,
1:12:48
like, fucking really? Yeah, come on, dude.
1:12:50
Like we're already, we're at this point, now he's here.
1:12:53
And then Reverend Lowe the werewolf just Hulk smashes.
1:12:58
Kool-aid smashes. All the way through all.
1:13:02
The way through the wall. Yeah, I love it because he
1:13:06
spreads. He drops the gun and the boy.
1:13:08
The boy falls into the vent. It, yeah, it goes into the floor
1:13:11
register and it almost feels like they have a similar set up
1:13:15
to us, which is in areas where certain animals not to be named,
1:13:21
might knock valuables into a floor register.
1:13:24
We have a netting inside of them to catch.
1:13:26
Those items and. It feels like maybe it's a
1:13:29
similar situation there. And so Marty is down there.
1:13:33
He's trying to dig the bullet out while Uncle Red, I would say
1:13:38
he's fighting low, but he's just being tossed around.
1:13:42
Yeah, I mean, he's actually putting up a decent fight
1:13:45
because he's getting some hits in with some chairs and some,
1:13:47
you know, weapons. But he's he's getting tossed
1:13:50
around. He's put up a better fight than
1:13:52
anybody so far. Yeah, and Marty's able to get
1:13:56
the bullet out him and Jane loaded into the gun.
1:13:59
Marty shoots him and then in the eye, in the other eye and then
1:14:04
low is in the corner and he just D transitions.
1:14:07
And Everett McGill talked about how long this scene took to
1:14:11
shoot. He says hours and hours and
1:14:14
hours because they have to. Use stop motion.
1:14:16
Yeah, the. Stop motion makeup effects and
1:14:19
he's like, and sometimes, you know, you get set up in the
1:14:20
wrong position and then you have to reshoot and you've lost hours
1:14:23
and. I can only imagine and then, but
1:14:27
it looks cool. It looks cool and then send.
1:14:30
Yeah, they, this is it. I I can't even remember.
1:14:32
Like we got like an ending monologue from Jane about like.
1:14:36
She's like, I can say it. I couldn't always say it back
1:14:39
then, but I can say it now. I love you, Marty.
1:14:43
Yeah, and that's it. It makes so much sense that this
1:14:45
like I understand now your complaints about Stephen King
1:14:49
book endings because like what the fuck is this?
1:14:52
The man is so good at build up and scary and character
1:14:55
development. Then he gets to the end and it's
1:14:57
like. And that was that.
1:15:01
And that's that and. I don't know where to go from
1:15:03
here, folks. So you know what?
1:15:04
Ending notwithstanding, I'm gonna keep it at a nine because
1:15:06
this is an amazing movie. I say I'm keeping mine at 9 1/2
1:15:09
because I just love this movie man.
1:15:11
It's so fucking fun. Yeah, I I wish maybe we had a
1:15:14
little bit more of a devolution in how the murders are handled,
1:15:18
but. Yeah, it would have been a
1:15:20
little bit interesting. Overall, just such an amazing
1:15:24
movie. It's just fun.
1:15:25
Yeah, yeah, it really is. Talia, she was pretty sleepy
1:15:29
through this. We already thought.
1:15:30
We thought she was going to be reacting more into the the yeah.
1:15:34
But not really, no. I think she's like, you know
1:15:37
what? This is fake.
1:15:37
Yeah, she's like, this is fake. She was like, also, I'm going to
1:15:40
heaven. I'm an Angel, so I'm not
1:15:43
particularly concerned about any of this.
1:15:46
She's like y'all, y'all will be fine.
1:15:48
Yeah. Yeah.
1:15:48
So I think so. I guess this is 3.
1:15:51
She was just like meh. Misrepresent.
1:15:53
Yeah. It's like it's, yeah.
1:15:56
Like this is offensive. Yeah, who's Zoe's ultimate
1:15:59
warrior? That's a tough one.
1:16:12
I almost feel like it's Marty because we've seen Zoe go from
1:16:18
being the hunter to being the haunted and then back to being
1:16:22
the hunter. Yeah, because, you know, for a
1:16:25
while she was all about getting the bugs around the house.
1:16:27
Then Cordelia shows up in Cordelia is a Kitten and Full of
1:16:30
kitten energy, and has realized that Zoe wanders around the
1:16:34
house a lot and therefore it's very fun to stalk her and jump
1:16:37
out at her, and Zoe has turned that back around on her.
1:16:40
Lately, I was in the bathroom yesterday and like I like I was
1:16:44
there. It was me, Scout and Cordelia.
1:16:46
And we hear Jingling coming down the hall and Cordelia like shut
1:16:49
her up. And then she like ran over to
1:16:51
the side of the wall and like like shuffled around like got in
1:16:54
her palace position. She's like, this is my chance.
1:16:56
I'm going to get her as soon as she comes around the corner.
1:16:58
But then as soon as Zoe it goes around the corner she freezes.
1:17:02
Cordelia lacks in execution. Yeah, she she gets scared at the
1:17:07
last second. You're gonna remember this but
1:17:09
she cuz this is coming up soon for you.
1:17:11
But she's Gohan. OK.
1:17:14
She she becomes very Gohan. OK, I'm excited to see how that
1:17:18
means. Yeah, I'll, I'll bring it up to
1:17:20
you whenever it comes up to it. But yeah, OK, let's say it's Zoe
1:17:24
or not Zoe. Let's say it's Marty.
1:17:26
Yeah, yeah. Was this a who or a holler for
1:17:29
Cordelia? That's tough.
1:17:35
Holler, as in the sheriff. OK, it's like, I mean, he was a
1:17:43
character, so holler. I have.
1:17:50
I have a tagline suggestion ready to go.
1:17:54
Let's go. But I need to do it before I
1:17:56
forget it. Let's do it.
1:17:58
The gang fights a werewolf. Oh, I like it.
1:18:03
Yeah, I. Know he's in.
1:18:04
It's always Sunny. Direction.
1:18:06
I love that. That's great.
1:18:07
OK, OK, cool. Dream sequel.
1:18:14
Oh boy, where'd we go from here? I I want to see the fallout.
1:18:23
I want to see what happens to this town.
1:18:25
Maybe it becomes like a tourist town.
1:18:28
Maybe the story of the werewolf becomes something of a legend
1:18:32
and so people want to come and see kind of like Tremors.
1:18:35
Oh did. What if they embrace it?
1:18:36
Like the fair becomes like werewolf theme, like everybody's
1:18:39
like. Oh, that's fun.
1:18:42
This is kind of like Wolf Cop where they all like embrace,
1:18:44
like the werewolf, like war and everything like that.
1:18:47
Yeah. Yeah, so like it, it just
1:18:49
becomes like an attraction and everybody's like they're looking
1:18:51
for the werewolf. I like it.
1:18:53
Yeah, Who's going to be the werewolf this time?
1:18:57
Is it a character that we already know?
1:18:58
It's got to be somebody surprising.
1:19:01
It does. What if it's Herb?
1:19:05
Herb. Yeah, the dad of Brody.
1:19:10
That would be surprising. Or we could do a little bit more
1:19:14
of a wolf cop thing and maybe his deputy Pete.
1:19:17
Could be deputy, yeah, he just becomes a wolf.
1:19:20
Cop then we could then we could do like a Wolf Cop crossover.
1:19:24
I like that. Yeah.
1:19:26
And of course, we get Red and Marty and Jane.
1:19:31
Oh yeah. Back.
1:19:31
And they're, they're there to solve the mystery.
1:19:35
OK, cool. I like this.
1:19:36
OK. Who did you relate to?
1:19:40
I related to to Red that whole relationship of the uncle and
1:19:44
the nephew thing like it feels true, you know?
1:19:49
OK, I really don't know who I relate to and this.
1:19:54
I feel like you would be the woman like sorting her pills
1:20:00
because I've seen like how you are very careful and like
1:20:03
organized with how you place your pills.
1:20:05
That is true, but she's going to do something.
1:20:10
Yeah, Yeah. Well, that's not the part you
1:20:12
relate to. You just relate to the
1:20:13
organization of it all. I guess that's fair, I do drink
1:20:17
a lot of water. You do, and fancy glasses.
1:20:22
Sometimes I'd say the fanciest of all is my Edward Turking
1:20:26
glass. That's the one I'm thinking of.
1:20:28
Yeah, OK. All right, what would Dom
1:20:31
Toretto do? I think he, I mean he would have
1:20:36
made the silver bullet still. He would have made it himself.
1:20:39
He would have just like crushed it in his first.
1:20:41
Yeah, no, I'm talking about the machine like the the motorcycle.
1:20:45
The. Motorcycle yeah cuz I mean The
1:20:47
thing is though, he doesn't do motorcycles so he that.
1:20:50
Would be a letty. Yeah, but he's like, I can't
1:20:54
make a motorcycle for you. Like that's Letty's thing.
1:20:58
Yeah, so this is like he lets her step up and do her thing.
1:21:02
Yeah. And instead of the silver
1:21:05
bullet, he just takes, like, a silver cross necklace that he
1:21:08
always has and he, like, puts it on the hood of his car and,
1:21:12
like, drives like he noses. Yeah, like, yeah, he noses.
1:21:16
And like he like the silver from that necklace, like stabs the
1:21:20
werewolf in the heart and it kills him.
1:21:23
Nice. Yeah, there we go.
1:21:25
I like it. Yeah, I like it.
1:21:27
I feel like we got more things. Do we have anything else?
1:21:30
I don't think so actually. I do need to pull a user review
1:21:34
though. So this is a negative review
1:21:37
because I knew that we both were just completely charmed by this
1:21:40
movie. OK, this is a 2 out of 10 on
1:21:42
IMDb. Has some decent generic horror,
1:21:46
but drags the score is offensively generic.
1:21:49
Nice performance by Terry O Quinn.
1:21:51
He doesn't get much screen time but displays exceptional tuft.
1:21:55
Who is that? Is that?
1:21:56
The sheriff OK Haim is solid. He wears a very bright
1:22:00
sweatshirt at one point, which may be the high point of the
1:22:02
movie. Aside from O'quinn's tuft, the
1:22:04
girl wears a very neat sweatshirt at one point as well.
1:22:07
Nice hair on Haim and Busey. Busey's outfits are sometimes
1:22:10
nice, but he generally looks very goofy, which isn't
1:22:12
surprising. The movie is much too long and
1:22:14
should have been compressed into a 45 minute TV episode.
1:22:17
Silver, their bullet elements are forced only they're to play
1:22:19
to the title. Scenes really drag while rarely
1:22:22
building substantial tension. There are a few Humira scenes,
1:22:25
as when an old lady holds a gun. The horror scenes and effects
1:22:29
are OK and seem typical for the era.
1:22:31
The main effect segment is pretty sweet.
1:22:33
Voice over scenes contrived and is somewhat bothersome.
1:22:36
At least there's not much of it, though that fact contributes to
1:22:39
the problems with it. Quality sung on the closing
1:22:41
credits. There's some good stuff in the
1:22:43
movie, but it's just way too long.
1:22:45
Wow, this is one of the things where like it makes you realize
1:22:50
that some people like watch movies completely different than
1:22:53
you. Yeah, this was reviewed in 2010.
1:22:55
OK, just to have a little bit more context on the time, but I,
1:22:59
I, it's interesting because I normally pay a lot more
1:23:03
attention to costuming and wardrobe and I didn't pay as
1:23:05
much attention to it in this one.
1:23:07
No, it felt natural to me, Everything.
1:23:09
Did you know it didn't stand out or anything like that?
1:23:12
It seemed. Like the hair stylings or
1:23:14
anything like that too, you know, it wasn't like obscenely
1:23:17
of its time. Like it just felt natural.
1:23:21
I, I don't, I, I feel like a lot of the scenes had tension for
1:23:25
me. Yeah.
1:23:27
Like, I mean, especially with the Reverend and Marty scenes,
1:23:30
like with that whole chase segment and the moment with Jane
1:23:33
and the Reverend and the the shed.
1:23:38
But you know, like I, I don't, I, I don't know what could have
1:23:43
been done differently to make this a little bit more
1:23:45
interesting for you. Yeah.
1:23:47
It doesn't seem like the person is necessarily turned off by
1:23:49
werewolf movies, but. Yeah, it just seems like maybe
1:23:51
it just wasn't like a movie for them, which is unfortunate
1:23:54
because I think it is such a fun little movie.
1:23:56
But you know, if, yeah, I guess if it just doesn't do it for
1:24:02
you, it just doesn't do it for you, you know?
1:24:03
Yeah, it's just one of those things, like, I can't really
1:24:05
argue what you're saying because, I mean, that's how you
1:24:07
felt about it. But yeah, I I just got like I
1:24:10
had a completely different experience watching.
1:24:11
It myself, it seemed like they were distracted, which it's, I
1:24:14
mean, we talked about being distracted about things in it
1:24:17
ourselves. So it's not that's true.
1:24:20
You know that that's not necessarily out of line.
1:24:22
It's just interesting that the distraction took away from their
1:24:25
enjoyment of it. Yes, Yeah.
1:24:27
OK. Well, that's interesting to have
1:24:30
that perspective. Let's see what everybody else
1:24:32
thought about it. Yes.
1:24:34
So we do have listener reviews. We have one, I don't know.
1:24:37
We actually have two. Something came in.
1:24:39
Oh, it's from Joe Frecotron, who says one of my favorite werewolf
1:24:43
movies by far, Gary Busey, is that uncle that everybody has.
1:24:48
Yes, exactly. That's the thing that like he,
1:24:50
he is like a relatable type of character, everybody.
1:24:52
Has that uncle that everybody has or is?
1:24:55
Exactly. And again we have Cubesafes says
1:24:59
Busey plays a great drunk uncle. I replied to him that he plays,
1:25:04
in my opinion, the best drunk. Uncle yes, I cannot, I cannot
1:25:08
picture anybody else in that role.
1:25:11
I can't either, man I cannot. It was perfect casting for him.
1:25:14
Like, I didn't know what to expect, but he did it.
1:25:18
He did the damn thing. Yeah, it's just, it's, it's so
1:25:21
charming, man. This movie, the characters, the
1:25:24
portrayals, everything was so well done.
1:25:26
I just love it so much. That relationship was definitely
1:25:30
a huge part of it, though. I feel like if that didn't have,
1:25:34
if it didn't have that going for it, it may have lost some of its
1:25:36
magic. But yeah, like, overall, I love
1:25:39
it. I had a great time with it.
1:25:41
I'm glad we talked about it. And you know what, we're going
1:25:43
to have a great time with and be glad we talked about next week.
1:25:46
Final destination. Yes, the Final Destination AKA
1:25:50
part 4, AKA the one in 3D AKA the one that we will be
1:25:55
defending. That is right.
1:25:57
Be prepared for that. Still not streaming anywhere,
1:26:00
but you can rent it on YouTube, Google TV, Apple TV, Fandango at
1:26:03
home or Prime or go out. To Walmart and get a four pack
1:26:07
for $4. Or whatever.
1:26:09
They might have a full 6 pack now.
1:26:11
They might, yeah. They get a six pack, 6 pack and
1:26:13
a six pack. Oh yeah of whatever drink of
1:26:15
choice. It doesn't have to be alcohol,
1:26:17
although alcohol's fun. Yeah, could be yoohoo.
1:26:20
Yeah. You know, everybody loves
1:26:21
Yoohoo. Yeah, you can't have you.
1:26:25
I'm sorry. But yeah, I'm.
1:26:28
I'm excited for that. It'll be fun.
1:26:29
It it's, it's a good time, yeah. So, OK, all right, so we want to
1:26:39
give a shout out to our bubbies over on the Patreon.
1:26:41
Especially because they voted for this movie.
1:26:43
This time, Yeah. Thank you guys for picking this
1:26:44
one. This is a great one.
1:26:45
I can't even remember what the other one was.
1:26:46
Oh yeah, it's Predator 2 because it.
1:26:47
Was Battle of the Beast Battle of the Busey?
1:26:49
Yeah, we were. We were talking about Gary
1:26:51
Busey. One we were father this one.
1:26:54
So yeah, we want to thank you guys.
1:26:56
Thanks to Joe. Freakatran.
1:26:59
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1:28:02
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