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We’re Not Talking About Love Today · Life and Love Podcast

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What's going on? What's going on? What's going
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on? Now to the life in love with Erica and Shawn.
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She ain't even got the fingers together. I got
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y 'all loaded on that. We're going to be still
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changing some things in the studio because I
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really hate this wall. So some stuff will be
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added to this wall real soon. Real, real soon.
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Just to kind of bring it out and the logo might
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come down, but it'll go back up and it's just
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another way Yeah, definitely position it probably
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like right here dead center that's where it's
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gonna be popping out. It's right there. All right
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Well today man, we're not talking about really
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no love shit today. All right, that's gonna be
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the nameless podcast, we're not talking about
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love today. We're just gonna be some regular,
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you know, reminiscing moments. Let's see how
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different or similar our upbringing was. Because
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we grew up in two different type of households.
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You know what I'm saying? So we're gonna see
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what our upbringing was. Now, first, let's get
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things started. One, are you okay, how's it,
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how you feeling? I'm good. You need a haircut,
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I see. I do, I do. I'm waiting on my barber,
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you know, trying to get that time in, but he's
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so busy. That's what you need, a haircut, you
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frizzy dizzy. I do. And your birthday coming
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up soon. It is. You're getting old, G. Yeah.
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I'm climbing the charts. But the main thing is
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I still feel good and look good. So, OK, you
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know, that's all what matters. They say when
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you start feeling old, that means you're old.
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Right. Right. Right. Right. And I ain't got no
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plans to feel old. I'm going to take that now.
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I know that's right. I know that's right. I feel
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you with that one. So feel you with that. I agree.
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Well, let's get into the show, man. Let's talk
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about what was some of those house. You know
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what I mean? That made sense. But I also want
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to know the ones that didn't make sense when
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you was coming up. So what was those house rules
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that you grew up under that made sense first?
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What was the one? I mean, like two. Okay. One
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of them is with cutting the lights on. Right?
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So they always believe then, you know, we got
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to pay this light bill. you need to not cut no
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lights on because you don't need no lights. Okay,
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it's dark. I wanna write, I wanna read. I'm gonna
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need some light. So don't cut that light on.
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I can't never cut the light on. It was like,
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you got all this light. You know how I always
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say, you got this free light? That's what I was
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told. You got all this free light out here. Open
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this blind. Open this window back. I'm doing
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something, I'm busy. Is that a rule that made
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sense or didn't make sense? It didn't make sense
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then. But now that I'm older. Yes, because you
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do that to our boys all the time. I accumulated
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those bills and I live in that moment. It did
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make sense. I'm always saying now, I know what
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my grandma was talking about. You do that to
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the boys all the time. I do. I go in their room.
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I say, hey, you need that light on? Then he'd
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be like, no, mom, and then he'd get up and cut
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it off. I'm like, open this blind a little bit.
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Right. The only thing I know, because you know
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me, I don't really cut on a lot of lights either.
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Because I kind of grew up the same way. But it
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wasn't as, you know, open the blind type shit.
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It's like, yo, if you just brushing your teeth.
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You don't need the light on for that because
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if you notice I don't cut the light on I brush
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my teeth and wash my face What am I what the
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fuck am I looking at? You know, I mean, I know
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what my toothbrush I know where the toothpicks
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at and we have light in the bathroom We got like
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all the bathrooms. We have like a little night
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light So the lights off if there is a light on
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So I don't need and I shower in the dark. I prefer
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to shower in the dark You know what I'm saying?
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What am I looking for? I know my body. I know
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where I need to wash at. I know what I need to
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clean. And that's every corner of my body. So
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I don't do that. And I don't really cut the light
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on to use the bathroom. I know how to aim. And
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I know how to sit my ass down. And if my aiming
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is off, I know how to clean the aim up. So I
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get that piece. But my mom wasn't too strict
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on that. It was just always... You don't need
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light to do those certain items. Yeah, when you
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know where it's at, you know what's going on.
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Right, if you're sitting reading and writing,
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which we did a lot of, because you know, we didn't
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cover on the cell phone era. So we did a lot
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of reading and writing. Exactly. Then I cut the
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light on, so I get that. I get that. That was
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a good rule. What's another one? But don't forget
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this one now, running the water. Yeah, yeah,
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you know, I cut it off. You run it. But I do.
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And I never did. That's something I did when
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I was older, I guess, because I was told so much
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to cut this off and cut that off. So when I got
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older, I'm like, I paid the water bill around
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here. I can leave the water on if I want to.
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Right. I cut it off when I brush my teeth. I
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leave it running. And sometimes I have to remember,
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I'm like, OK, cut the water off. Then I go right
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back and I'll cut it on again. But if I see the
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kids do it, I'm like, you're brushing your teeth.
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Cut the water back on when you finish. Exactly.
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Exactly. I am so much a hypocrite. You're doing
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no boys wrong. I'm injustice. But I'm like, I
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paid it so I can cut it on if I want to. But
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that's one habit. That's your reasoning. Yeah,
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that's my reasoning. But it's not a good habit.
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I don't like it at all because I've never done
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that. And then all of a sudden, you know, I'm
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doing it. Right. I get it. And they also used
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to talk about don't slamming the door and stuff.
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You know, you don't pay no bills. Like, okay.
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I don't, I never got the equate. I never understood
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that as the reasoning. Why is like, don't slam
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the doors. Don't pay no bills around here. It's
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like you pay the bills around here and you don't
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slam the door. I'm not, that's not the reason.
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I probably just closed the door because I'm in
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a rush. You know what I mean? Our boys don't
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really slam nothing. No. Sometimes they'll close
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the car door hard when they jumping out. or the
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microwave door, the cabinet. That pisses me off.
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That microwave door shit pisses me off because
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then the microwave breaks then what? One did
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it last night and then he was like, oh, I slammed
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that too hard. I said, yes, you did. That sound
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like Sean. No, it's Dave on because he does it
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a lot. He does it a lot. And I tell him all the
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time, I'm going to punch your ass next time you
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slam that shit. I'll be having to threaten him
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with acts of violence. Oh, a good one. Sleeping
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all day. Uh -huh. I wasn't allowed to know me
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either. Well I did used to wake up On your own
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like 12 o 'clock. I did used to sleep I did but
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I used to go to bed too They used to fuss at
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me about going to bed. Mm -hmm. So I couldn't
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stay up too late sometime, you know, my granddaddy
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would be like Like all I'll be doing? Right,
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yeah. Get out the way. If you get out the way,
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nobody won't say nothing to your goofy ass. Exactly.
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Yeah, so I did used to wake up late, you know,
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but the thing is, when I do get up, I would always,
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you know, make my bed up, you know, and stuff
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like that. I would get that done. Right. Looking
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at now, our boys now, well, one of them. Right.
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That joker will sleep all day if you let him.
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He got that from your side. I will adamantly
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say that your little brother right now to this
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date sleeps all goddamn day. And he's been that
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way as long as I've known him. As long as I know
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him, I don't know how he got up to go to school.
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As long as I've known him, that motherfucker
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will sleep all day. Sean will do the same if
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you let him, but he know I've been on his neck
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and back about that shit. That's some lazy ass,
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wash the day away shit. You not get no money
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that way. Broke as hell. I don't like that shit
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at all. I ain't saying you gotta wake up at the
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butt crack. You ain't gotta wake up at the butt
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crack, but darn, but still. I wake up at the
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butt crack. I ain't gonna be in front. I've always
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been that way. I am a, I'm a night owl and I'm
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an early riser. I can literally go to bed three
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o 'clock in the morning and still get up at six,
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seven, fully full, ready? Let's go. Unless I'm
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going somewhere. But I'm not going to get up
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just to get up. Especially when I'm on the move.
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Nah, I get up. I'm not just getting up to get
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up. I do a bunch of stuff. I have a full day.
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I do a bunch of stuff in the morning. Honestly,
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I'm going to be total honest with you. I'm going
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to be totally honest with you. I get up early
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like that because that's the only time I get
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some personal time to myself. I can see that.
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And quiet time. That's the only time. You ain't
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got none at night. Nothing like that. Ain't none
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than a day. As soon as one of y 'all wake up,
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it's a wrap. Cause I know it's me in the day
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and at night. I know that's me you got to worry
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about. And then the rest of those jokes. So I
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know in the morning I get up, I meditate, I say
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a prayer, I get me some coffee. I've go through
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the, I literally go through the stocks. I go
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through the news. I go through a bunch. I go
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through a whole bunch of stuff. I jump on the
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computer. I'ma send some emails. I'ma look at
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some shit. I'ma watch some anime. Might even
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jump on the game for 15 minutes because I don't
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really play it long I do a lot of shit in the
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morning for y 'all get up. I do a lot I'll be
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in the middle of playing playing Madden and then
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I'm like, yo Let me check the news real quick
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on my phone to see what what happened in music
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related news tech I'll be on all that shit cuz
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it's like a bunch of stuff I want to invest in
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and then I'll be like hi WRL real quick. Make
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sure Raleigh burn down Raleigh been on bullshit
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lately. A party bus ran into somebody's house
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last night. Raleigh just been on bullshit lately.
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Raleigh has never been this way. Raleigh on bullshit.
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That's why I live on the outskirts. We good.
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I do a lot of shit until I hear, I hear some
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movement on step. I hear the toilet flush. I
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said, okay, that's Erica. Then I hear it on this
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side. Then I hear, I said that's Devon. Uh, then
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I wait. It isn't my hit the stairs. I'm like,
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yup, it's a wrap. It's over. I just wait. I'm
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like, okay, who's hit the stairs? Which way they
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coming? Yeah, that's Erica. The stairs. They've
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all come. Yeah. Fast as hell. Like, bro, did
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you skip some stairs? So then I'll be going.
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That's obviously knowing who's who. Next, food.
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What is those food items from back in the day
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that you used to eat that you definitely don't
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eat today? What's those food items? Liver and
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gravy. Oh my god. Yes, that was a staple. Now,
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remind you now, every food we eat, it was about
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the same thing every week. It was about the same
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thing. Liver and gravy. I used to eat it, I did.
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I used to eat it, it was good. It was the bomb.
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And rice. You know you got to put rice with the
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gravy and the liver. And you know I have some
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little string beans on the side. Always. Why
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black people feel like string beans is the go
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-to green item? You do that shit a lot too. I
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do. I ain't gonna front when you came around.
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That was always my go -to as well. But we got
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to find another fucking green item. Another vegetable
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item. And black people fuck up that vegetable
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because they throw some grease in it or something.
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You got broccoli. Right. Green beans is kind
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of like the only thing. But black people fuck
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up green beans because they throw some meat in
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it. You can. You can. Or a spoonful of fucking
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oil. You do a bunch of oil. Or the seasoning.
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or from the goddamn liver. That's too much. It's
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fucking up. It is. It ain't even healthy no more.
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Soon as it hit a black pot, it ain't healthy.
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It ain't healthy no more. But we had that. We
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used to eat that. Until one day, I was a little
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older. My grandma messed up and she bought some
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pork liver. And that taste was different. It's
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nasty. And I and I've never ate it again. That
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was it. That was it for me. It was a turn off.
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Your pork is wet. You see what they want to say.
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Pork is disgusting. Yeah. And we haven't eaten
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it in a very long time. So it's definitely not
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not well. So what what moms used to cook? You
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know, really, really country has just cooked
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some of everything. We was always I still I still
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like to this day, so they really much I don't
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really like. That one I don't do, because we
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did the same thing. Liver and gravy, we did the
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same thing. I won't eat that shit for nothing
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in the world, not now. But gizzards. Okay, okay.
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Yeah, gizzards, mine is a liver, because remember
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they used to put them together, gizzards and
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liver, cut up liver and pieces. I just want the
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gizzards by itself. You can taste the difference.
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Yeah. I still eat that. I would still eat that
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shit to this day. I haven't had any fucking years.
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Yeah, a little while ago. We used to get them
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coming from South Carolina and dealing at the
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KFC and dealing. They don't sell that shit. They
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were the only spot that had it. That was it.
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If I could find a fire gas station with deliver.
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I mean with the gizzards, I don't know why gizzards
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is so good. Throw some hot sauce. I'm in here
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like somewhere. You know what I mean? That was
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one of those guilty pleasures I used to eat a
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lot of. I haven't had in a thousand years. It
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gotta be fried. I don't want that shit no other
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way. It gotta be fried. I don't know. I've seen
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it other ways, but that shit chewy. I've tried
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it. I need that bit fried. Hard. I ain't gonna
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lie to you, man. But, um, that's, that's like,
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I've had chitlins when I was living in Detroit,
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my grandma made them. She's the first. I only
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had them one time in my life twice. I don't know.
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Two times in my life. I'll never eat them shits
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again. I was, I only eat a little bit. I wasn't
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a fan of it. I can't, I'm a sensory person. So
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if I smell something and then you put that shit
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that I smelled that's on my plate, I still smell
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that. Even though the smell is gone, I personally
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still smell that, so I can't eat that. I can't
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eat that. It's shit. It's pure shit. And it's
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rancid. And you gotta clean and clean and clean.
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You gotta clean it right. You do. I know a lot
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of us eat a lot of shit in our life if you ate
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that. You did. I ain't fucked with that, I can't
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fuck with that. Don't eat that no more. That
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was young, young, young, young, young. Yeah,
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once my grandmother passed, that was it. No more.
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I think somebody made some one time for my granddaddy
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because he wanted some. But I think that was
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just a one time thing because it wasn't going
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to be the same. Right, right, right. That was
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it. Yeah. Oh, so grandma used to bake that shit
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regularly. Yeah, cuz my granddaddy loved that.
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Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. That was one of his things.
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That the tripe meat. What the **** is tripe meat?
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Yo, I'm telling you, old black people, yo, will
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eat. They will eat the the most Slave pieces
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of a goddamn pig or something. Hoghead cheese.
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Like, how you eat that? You see hoghead cheese?
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Yeah, you your grandma and granddaddy child.
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I was raised by old people, so I ain't had no
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choice. I ain't eat that shit. Mama used to eat
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that damn hoghead cheese with motherfuckin'...
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toast. I mean, slice of toast or a cracker. Yeah.
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Yeah. I see you with a risk. Yeah, I'm talking
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about break that shit off fresh out the pack.
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Like, what in the world? No, I'm good. Yeah,
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straight out the pack. So, so, I heard, as soon
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as I heard head and cheese, I was done. That
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ain't cheese. That ain't cheese. I eat cheese.
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You know, I like a good block of cheese. I like
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the blocks of cheese. I don't like I don't want
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the individual slice cheese. You want you can
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cut it off. Yeah, I'll cut up myself unless you
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got the deli style slice cheese. Yeah, not that
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not that not old school rap. You want to go to
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cheese that? Yeah, that good slice like we had
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it packed the other day. I don't know what that
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was. Yeah, it's gone. I know. Every time I go
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in there, it's only two or three left. I eat
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about eight pieces of that. I took the rest and
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I put it on top of the mac and cheese. I know
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I got this. Oh, that's where it went. That's
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where it went. OK, because I was looking for
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the last two slices. You said that. Oh, this
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macaron good. You gotta write on that. Gonna
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be used for something else. I see that. Cause
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you don't write on that. I'm busting the pack.
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Right. I went in there and it was only three
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left. I was like dang. I like a sandwich so.
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I don't ever see no rats but apparently they
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in here. I like a sandwich so. It's the pre -cut,
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Jones. You ain't your little one. Yeah, that's
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my dog. He turn into a cheese. Oh my God. Yeah,
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when he see me, let me get one. There you go,
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my boy. Especially with the sliced cheese. Damn,
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what you cutting up some cheese, yo? Cut me up
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a few pieces, too. He been that way because,
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you know, he be and be fighting for seniority
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over the property. But he always been my little
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shadow. So when he was little, little and I cut
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up some cheese, he would come and look at me.
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Hand him a little piece. You know, he's so little,
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hand him a little piece. He'll pip off, he couldn't
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talk, eat that cheese, come back with a little
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hand balled up. Two, one, two. Go on out here,
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don't ask me about no more. That's how I got,
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you used to get Sean, two. Come and ask me, you
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get two. And they know, then they come. Two,
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yup, you go two. Until they start learning. Yeah,
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then they start working their way up. Dad, let
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me get five of those. Two to five, bro. Leave
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my Oreos alone. Dad, just let me get, let me
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get. They'll get two fucking Oreo cookies, right?
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And they try to put milk in, you can't put no
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milk in a cup for no two Oreos. You gotta eat
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them naked like they are. Come on, man. Come
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on, man. Now I gotta give you five, because it
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gotta make sense to put this milk in this cup.
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Don't waste my milk. Oh, no, I make them drink
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it. You gotta drink it. You gotta drink it. You
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gotta drink it, baby. Okay, let me ask you this.
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So, during those times, you was eating those
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foods, right? Uh huh. Could you ever eat on the
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couch or anything like that? No, hell no. Or
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in your room? Hell no. No, no, no, never. You
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always gotta eat at that table. Everybody at
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the table together. Now, we um like a sandwich
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or something I could take to the room. Yeah.
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I could pimp off to the room because I just made
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that myself. Right. But anything. Yeah. Nobody
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don't know anything dinner related in this goddamn
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house. Sit your ass down at the table. Ain't
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no taking that nowhere. OK. Yeah. All right.
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And that's probably why I don't sit at the table
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now. Yeah. Because you always used to sit there.
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Always at the table. Yeah. But I think we lost
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community that way. I think families lost community
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that way because now. I'll say this, when we
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do sit at the table with the boys, they love
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that shit. They be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Family. Y 'all would be just, y 'all. Then when
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I sit on the couch, I'm like, I don't wanna sit
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with y 'all like y 'all. He be like, come on
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down. I don't wanna sit with y 'all. Watch the
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TV over and eat this. Ain't just ain't gonna
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be on this plate for long, brother. Sit with
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y 'all. It ain't gonna be on that long, bruh.
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I don't care about y 'all day. All right, what
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was the holiday plate rules? Oh, yeah. Daddy
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eat first. That's right. And don't always get
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the big piece of meat. Yeah. You a kid and you
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go in there and you get the big piece of chicken.
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You're going to get your hand slapped and the
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chicken will fall right back down. Don't try
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that. And mine is a little different, you know,
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raised by a single parent. So mom just always
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fixed us. She would fix us and then she would
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go last. She would fix her food last. Because
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sometimes she wouldn't even really eat because
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she would like, I don't cook this shit. I don't
21:24
want to eat it. Smell it. Probably did taste
21:26
tests and stuff like that. When I started cooking
21:31
for the house, I would feed my brothers and then
21:34
give her her plate. And then I would eat last
21:36
because I used to. I was the second up for the
21:38
cook, you know what I mean? I was second chef
21:40
in the goddamn house. So I fried some chicken
21:42
and rice and green beans, because still can't
21:45
make no gravy to this day. I don't know why I
21:47
can't get the gravy shit together. So she would
21:49
come out and make the gravy for me while I make,
21:52
you know what I'm saying, when we was eating
21:54
pork. Because I didn't stop eating pork until
21:56
I got on my own or I fried some pork chops. You
21:59
know what I'm saying? It was always fried though.
22:02
Fried up some pork chops. always rice it was
22:06
always some rice always some rice or mashed potatoes
22:09
and then we used to make the mashed potatoes
22:11
from scratch like my mom's would not do that
22:14
box she always had potatoes in there boy you
22:18
go in there you peel your potatoes then you do
22:21
what you do she's like you can slice them up
22:23
so they can boil quicker and you know i mean
22:25
and then do my thing from there you know yeah
22:28
um i got older i started baking my potatoes in
22:32
the oven, like the roasted potatoes that I did
22:35
when you first came around. Yeah. I mean, the
22:37
ranch potatoes. I started doing that. Right.
22:39
I started doing that on my own. But um, but yeah,
22:43
back in the day, you know what I'm saying? Farley
22:45
would feed us and then she would get her food
22:48
last. So but now I don't I don't I don't fix
22:52
my plate. You don't do nothing now. I don't fix
22:54
my plate. He got me. I do it. I don't think he's
22:59
about to play probably nowhere. No. If we go
23:01
somewhere as a cookout, something going on, I
23:03
be trying to tell you, I got it, baby, I got
23:04
it. What you want. What you want. Now I'm over
23:09
there picking. You know what I mean? I be like,
23:10
I don't want people to think, oh, he got his
23:12
little slave working. I be trying to tell you,
23:14
he ain't my slave. It ain't like that. It's just,
23:17
that's my mind. In my mind, that's how it goes.
23:20
Like, he eats first. Yeah. Yep, he eats first.
23:24
Sometimes I may get stuff first, but if I'm right
23:28
there in the kitchen and you over there, you
23:30
know, in my space, then I'm like, here you go,
23:33
babe. You know, sometimes we'll take a minute
23:34
and we will eat first ourselves just so we can
23:37
be free. You know what I'm saying? Quiet. Because
23:41
we need that moment. Then I'm like, all right,
23:43
y 'all be fighting while they eat. Exactly. They
23:46
be doing too much. Way too much. I get that.
23:49
I get that. What's the snacks? you weren't allowed
23:52
to touch. Man, the only snacks we had was the
23:59
nilla wafer cookies. The little butter cookies,
24:04
like that you put on your fingers. I love them.
24:07
Yeah, they weren't. Yeah, they weren't good.
24:10
Get about 10 of them, Joe. Same now, but they
24:13
were good. You walk around. Yeah, just like that.
24:17
The little windmills, the little almond windmills,
24:20
oatmeal cookie, of course. I mean, y 'all old
24:25
people. You get a fruit, a banana, you know,
24:28
but it wasn't nothing exciting. Right, right.
24:31
It wasn't nothing exciting. It's like Olivia
24:34
wasn't doing all that. She wasn't. You was going
24:36
to get the regular. You was going to eat, but
24:38
it was going to be regular. Yeah, it ain't been
24:42
nothing exciting now. Yeah. Mom had all types
24:45
of snacks. Verley had all types of snacks. The
24:46
snacks we weren't allowed to eat was the one
24:48
she said, these are mine. It varied depending
24:53
on the purse time. These are mine. And she will
24:56
always get us the one snack that we like the
24:59
most. These are yours. If you eat it all, that's
25:01
on you. That's on you. You know what I mean?
25:05
Like we always kept oatmeal cream pie stayed
25:08
in the house. Swiss Rolls stayed in the house.
25:11
The Nutty Buddy Bar stayed in the house. Oreo
25:14
Cookies was always Shawn's. Oh yeah, Oreo Cookies
25:18
was always Shawn's. Always Shawn Cookies' Oreos
25:21
was always Shawn's. At least Shawn Cookies alone.
25:24
Old Mill Raisin Pie, don't forget that. That
25:26
was hers. I don't like Old Mill Raisin Pie. Yeah,
25:30
those are always Verley's. She liked them stupid
25:32
jumps like that. Old Mill Raisin Pies. And then
25:35
of course we had the windmills. We also, we had
25:39
snacks, we used to have snacks. I talk shit about
25:41
you, called you snack lady. We used to always
25:42
have snacks. I just personally don't eat a lot
25:45
of snacks. I've never really ate a lot of snacks.
25:47
So I just, I'm not the snack guy like that. Like
25:50
I have my set snacks. I have to take an account
25:54
that the boys like shit and make sure I grab
25:56
them. Cause if I go grocery shopping, this is
25:58
going to be groceries. It ain't going to be a
26:00
snack in sight. It will not be a snack. Niggas
26:03
all here to eat and eat right. It won't be a
26:06
snack in sight. That's why I'm supposed to bring
26:08
it back next and and we don't have enough food
26:12
Bring it back snacks. Don't worry. I'm gonna
26:14
go back to the stove two three more times. Anyway,
26:16
and that that's counterproductive in my mind
26:19
I'm programmed that way. That's counterproductive
26:22
That's why I can't wait to show really be playing
26:25
sports or like a real food so you can be healthy
26:28
and no snacks That's that's Yeah, just whatever
26:39
whatever mama say these are mine and they sat
26:41
over here. We don't fuck with those They don't
26:43
matter what it is. Like I said, it changes it
26:46
could be it might be some Oreos Even though she
26:48
didn't eat those often if she said it was hers.
26:51
You don't eat it She always kept popsicles in
26:54
the house Always kept some, you know, it was
26:57
always popsicles. So we form a popsicle. Yeah
27:00
Yeah, so it was always something you know me
27:03
that she could talk shit about. Y 'all eating
27:04
up all the damn snacks. I was always the only
27:09
one in the house, so I didn't have that issue.
27:12
You know, I was the only one. It's three boys.
27:13
Yeah, she had the issue. Yeah, so they had to
27:17
be some ground rules set over there. Yeah, this
27:20
niggas a go rampant, especially Fat Cat. That's
27:25
why he got his name, Fat Cat. Fat ass. I be telling
27:29
him all the time, fat ass. Did y 'all have a
27:33
living room that nobody could sit in? Nah, we
27:36
sat in the living room. Yeah, same thing with
27:37
us. Our house wasn't that big for that. But it
27:39
had plastic on it though. My mama refused to
27:42
do it. She said, I ain't my grandma. You gonna
27:44
sit on that plastic. She said, I ain't my mama.
27:46
We now sit down and use the couch. We've grown
27:49
up since around. Go find, go stay in a child's
27:52
place. Go find something to do. Yeah, that too.
27:55
Yeah, when my grandmother company used to come
27:57
over. Now, early in the days, like before I became
28:00
a teen, The plastic was on, and it stayed on.
28:06
I only remember my grandma buying two sets. You
28:11
sure that plastic wasn't on when I came around?
28:14
No. No. No, I don't think so. I don't think so.
28:19
Nah, I don't think so. Uh -uh. It was pulled
28:21
off. It was pulled off, because the chair had
28:24
been looked brand new. Because it had been pulled
28:27
off, yeah. Shut up. But I've only seen like two
28:33
sets of furniture came into the house. That's
28:37
why the plastic was one of them. It wasn't often.
28:38
It was not often. But when her friends would
28:42
come over, everybody would just sit in the living
28:45
room. They didn't have no big house. The living
28:47
room was all you had. But then we had like a
28:49
room we called the back room. It was an extra
28:51
room where TV was in there and stuff or whatever.
28:54
You used to go in there. But when the folks come
28:57
around, Go outside and play. Yeah, go find something
29:00
to do. Get out of grown folks business. Yeah,
29:02
you gotta go find something to do now. Yeah.
29:04
Stay in a child's place, go find something to
29:05
do. Yeah, because I messed up one time. I was
29:08
in their business, and I went back and I ran
29:10
my mouth. Ooh. And that was it. You know, I ain't
29:14
never been in no business no more. I'm sure you
29:17
ain't get slapped in your mouth. I ain't got
29:19
slapped, but just know I wouldn't do it again
29:22
by the words. That was sad. I bet. I bet. I bet.
29:27
Who told you? Who got you? Oh, the person came
29:30
back and said something. Yes, I ran my mouth
29:33
to that person. Oh, I did. I did. I ran my mouth
29:38
to that person. It was funny, too. I mean, it
29:41
was. Oh, was you? Oh, yeah, it was old enough
29:50
to know better. That's why they won't run this
29:51
goddamn off to fuck. That's why they won't run
29:54
his mouth to goddamn much right there. That's
29:57
right there. Talk to goddamn much. I'll be looking
30:00
at him. He do talk a lot. Yeah, I knew it. I
30:05
knew he got it from you. I knew he got it from
30:10
you. I knew it. I knew it. All right, what was
30:15
those black parent phrases that live rent free
30:20
in your mind? Because I said so that's always
30:29
one I'm like what because I said so I know I
30:34
say that shit all time. I said all the time Yes,
30:40
I'll tell you to do something and you say why
30:44
Look at you. I don't know the reason why you
30:48
in this world, because I said so. Look, motherfucker,
30:50
handle that shit. Who the fuck you talking to?
30:54
I know, I know me, I asked her, actually, who
30:56
the fuck you talking to? You know what I mean?
30:59
Come on, dawg, fix your face. I say that too,
31:03
I say that too. I done heard your damn feelings,
31:06
fix your face. That goddamn shit up. Fuck you,
31:09
something to cry for. before I give you something
31:12
to cry for. You gonna fix your face? Yeah, that
31:16
whole fix your face thing now. It's like, dude,
31:18
you just fuss at me. I'm mad and I'm upset, and
31:21
you want me to act like nothing happened? Act
31:22
like nothing happened. Tighten up. Tighten up.
31:26
Fuck your feelings. You know, I did that to Devon.
31:29
Like, we was in the store, right? Uh -huh. Everything
31:32
revolve around Devon. He knows that. He's that
31:36
child. He's that child. You always got one, and
31:38
he's that one. Yes, he is. So he did something
31:42
and I embarrassed him because I don't mind talking
31:45
loud when I'm in the store. And I did somebody
31:47
to say something. Yeah, you do. Because he ain't
31:50
at home with you. He at home with me. So I embarrassed
31:53
him. They were like, why are you talking so loud?
31:57
And then, you know, and I'll be like, why you
31:59
got your face like that? Fix your face up. But
32:01
then he was like. Doing all that and going on.
32:16
Now the one thing I don't say that I've heard
32:19
we got no McDonald's money. Oh, yeah, I got McDonald's
32:23
money dog. So shit. I don't hit none of that.
32:26
That's one thing we ride by McDonald's and somebody
32:28
black man. Yeah, we don't eat that shit often.
32:32
But if they say hey got some fries or something
32:36
grab some Eat man like we did that one time.
32:39
We was like hungry. We was running around gonna
32:41
go check up my mom Right there. I'm glad that
32:44
we eat that shit in the car on a ride. Everybody
32:46
was in that quad That shit is far from healthy
32:49
ain't good for you at all. But fuck it Mickey
32:53
D's Yeah, yeah Mickey D's So what you what you
33:00
think I think I'm writing on the head with them.
33:04
Yeah Those are the major ones. Selfishness thing.
33:12
Because I said so. That was very, very popular.
33:16
Right. You had any good school memories? I mean,
33:23
I really liked going to school. Right. So I didn't
33:26
have no problem with going to school. I had like
33:29
all my teachers. I mean, I wasn't a problem child.
33:33
I was a good child, so I didn't have no issues.
33:37
But no, I never had no issues in school. It was
33:40
always fun for me at school. It was always fun.
33:43
I had many issues. Any niggas tried to bully
33:45
me for a little while, and I had to knock niggas
33:48
down. Because you came from a different place.
33:50
Right. I had to knock some few niggas down, but
33:52
outside of that, once I passed, For us middle
34:03
school started in fifth grade No around here
34:07
middle school don't start till sixth grade Once
34:10
I passed fifth grade. I ain't had no issues Yeah,
34:13
yeah, I had no issues was I passed fifth grade
34:15
after that it was smooth sailing Only ever really
34:20
had issues one grade You know when I moved here
34:24
and did fourth grade fourth grade was easy breezy
34:26
fifth grade had some issues Six seven eight nine
34:30
so forth so on outside You know what I mean?
34:33
Like, I was fully established, shit was cool,
34:36
niggas know I can box. Shit was straight. No,
34:41
I wasn't running, I wasn't running. And I used
34:43
to run, you know what I mean? Then I stopped
34:45
all that running and put them dick beaters up,
34:50
let's get to it. I could box, then it was like,
34:54
all right. Leave that nigga alone. They're always
34:56
showing off because you was new. Leave that nigga
34:58
alone. They were like, who's this non -country
35:00
boy right here? That was wild. Yeah. I can bark,
35:05
so I let it be. Yeah. Did you have a favorite
35:08
teacher or something? I did. Miss Henry was mine.
35:13
And I only had her in eighth grade. Miss Henry
35:16
was my favorite teacher. I had two. Okay, I had
35:19
to I had Miss Burrows very sweet lady She'd tell
35:26
you about yourself. She would have tell you about
35:29
yourself. She was I'm talking about high school
35:33
middle college I got some I had some great teachers
35:36
in college about I'm talking about the adolescent
35:38
super adolescent She was my middle school Look
35:48
at me. Yeah, but Sean. Do I know your mama? I'm
35:54
lying. Her name is verily So my Anderson. Yes,
35:58
ma 'am. You act up. I know your mama Quick you
36:03
act up. I know your mama like oh my god Yeah,
36:18
you're right. Yeah, you're right. She got me
36:20
that one time, one time. I was done after that.
36:23
Yeah, you're better. Because you tell to. Uh
36:26
huh. Yeah, she would. Mm hmm. So my elementary
36:30
was Miss Davis. OK, I don't know. I don't know
36:34
if I remember. Yeah, but Miss Davis, she was
36:36
so she had lived like around a corner where we
36:39
lived. Yeah, she I remember one year she had
36:42
throw a. Like a little pool party, like after
36:45
school one summer. So like, you know, some of
36:47
the kids came over her house. I went actually,
36:50
you know, I ain't got no pool cuz, you know,
36:52
we don't do no water, nothing like that. Yeah,
36:55
you don't barely do that now. Yeah, so she had
36:57
this big pool and I mean, it was fun. She was
37:01
cool. I had liked her. Yeah. And then whenever
37:04
I would come home as, you know, older, as an
37:06
adult, she was working in one of the stores over
37:09
there. and she remembered me and, you know, we
37:12
would start talking and stuff and. Yeah, no,
37:16
I had a favorite bus driver, Ms. Sanders, got
37:18
to rest her soul. Sanders was the best. Ms. Sanders
37:21
was the shit. Her and Ms. Burrows kind of remind
37:24
me of each other. Yeah, they do. Yeah. Ms. Sanders
37:27
used to wait on us too. We'd come run out of
37:29
the house. If y 'all take long again. I know
37:32
your mom at work. I'ma leave y 'all ass, and
37:34
you know you gonna get in trouble, Shawn. Like
37:35
she cussing at you right on the bus, I'ma leave
37:38
y 'all ass, and you know you gonna get in trouble,
37:40
Shawn. I'm like, yes ma 'am, sorry for saying
37:42
this. She will stop that bus. Y 'all don't sit
37:45
y 'all ass down, y 'all know. Ms. Sanders was
37:48
the best though. She was at a gold tee for all
37:51
the gold on her arm, gold rings, that was like
37:55
quintessential old school. Auntie, gold rings,
37:59
gold bracelets. She had a couple of gold teeth.
38:02
She was smiling, talking with you. I mean, they
38:04
watch you grow up. Watch you grow up. She used
38:07
to work at Walmart. You walk at Walmart, you
38:09
knew you was going to see Ms. Sanders. Especially
38:11
when I went to college and I came home. She used
38:13
to see me, give me a big ass hug. I'm in Florida
38:16
with Ms. Sanders. They had a good conversation
38:18
with her. Boy, it's so good to know you're doing
38:20
great. How's your brother? I was like, I know
38:24
you're like, I see that's your mom. The other
38:27
day that Jesus said, I see that's your bar, but
38:31
he listened to me. He don't play that with me.
38:33
He be tough with everybody else. He don't play
38:35
that with me. I was like, Ms. Sanders, you know,
38:37
we love you. We're not going to never say that
38:39
to you. Ms. Sanders was the best. She was the
38:42
best. Yep. She helped you out. Oh my goodness.
38:45
These bus rides will keep on going now. I'm sorry.
38:48
Ms. Sanders, darn it, blow the horn as she pulling
38:50
up. We running out, running to the... Yep, cuz
38:52
she know she know your parents working nobody
38:54
home to take you to school. Yeah. Yeah, she knew
38:57
that yeah Or if she saw us walking or like I
39:01
used to put Sheldon on a bus Because she went
39:04
to all the schools. She went to literally all
39:07
the schools She's dropping you off at the elementary
39:09
school from a small town y 'all So she dropped
39:12
me off at an elementary school to the middle
39:14
school to the high school You know saying we
39:16
literally add us. We in a small town. So the
39:19
one bus driver that in that area, she dropping
39:22
you off every place. You know what I'm saying?
39:26
So when we used to put Sheldon on the bus, me
39:29
and Shemar would walk, or I would walk Shemar
39:34
Sheldon get on the bus and then I would walk.
39:37
Because I was in high school first. I'm walking
39:39
to high school. I made a couple of deep... You
39:42
know I mean couple pit stops on the way going
39:44
little detours in it But you know I make sure
39:47
they got on I walk you walk in the day Sean.
39:50
Yes, ma 'am Don't you? Leave them little pissy
39:54
tail girls alone you walk your ass to school
39:56
boy. Yes, ma 'am She used to be honest your point
40:03
at you And then smile at you because you know,
40:09
she don't watch you grow up Yeah, watch you from
40:11
little to big. You know, I mean that's a piece
40:14
of miss sanders. I mean you won't cry thinking
40:16
about that She was she was the best. She was
40:20
definitely the best. Yeah Yeah, all right, let's
40:24
see Let's see last last one last on the reminisce
40:30
train cuz we ain't talking about no love today
40:35
Come on. This is I think this is universal. What
40:37
is the store trip rules? What was those rules
40:41
that y 'all had? You ain't getting nothing. So
40:45
don't ask And it's been true a lot of times.
40:50
Yeah. Yeah, we going in here to get what I'm
40:53
shopping for Don't ask for nothing. Right, but
40:57
for me most of the time the stuff that's on the
40:59
list is Already something for me to write right,
41:02
but when I get to that register it always be
41:04
that one little candy bar That's why they put
41:06
them should have been almost sure it be the Reese's
41:08
it was the Reese's that was my thing No, eat
41:11
those shit. No butterfinger, but yeah, you try
41:14
Oh my god, you trash candy like I eat trash cereal.
41:19
Yeah Fucking butterfinger Uh -huh. Yeah. You
41:31
weren't getting it. Right. So there's plenty
41:33
of times I put my hand on that candy and I had
41:35
to put it back. You're right. I wasn't getting
41:37
it. And then we ain't play with her ever like
41:38
that. I walk in, don't ask for nothing, don't
41:40
touch nothing. I ain't buying shit. Oh, and believe
41:45
it, she meant that. Oh yeah, she meant every
41:47
word of that. Walk through them aisles. Keep
41:49
your hands to yourself. Grab what she asks you
41:51
to grab. Leave that shit alone. And if you ask
41:58
us, she be like... Mama was not mama was not
42:22
playing she quit school cuz of reset You got
42:26
anything else you want to add? anything you You
42:30
told me something, let's change real quick. You
42:32
told me something Deshaun did, and I remember,
42:35
but then I forgot as well. Once you said it,
42:37
I brought it to remember. That Deshaun back in
42:40
Andrews, Deshaun stole out the store, stole the
42:42
candy out of the store, and your mama called
42:45
and told you about it after the fact. Yeah, after
42:50
the fact. Yeah. Because it was way after the
42:52
fact when she noticed it too. He had it on lock
42:56
for a while. So yeah, our baby, look, speaking
43:01
of, look at that. So, her. So, our baby used
43:12
to go to South Carolina a lot. He's definitely
43:15
a country bumpkin. He used to be out there, you
43:16
know. She was all, you know, everything. And
43:21
he used to go to the store. Especially when Henry
43:23
was here. Oh my God. Henry had him everywhere.
43:28
And he, man, they'd be glad Henry ain't here
43:31
now. They really, yeah. Yeah, it'll help a good
43:35
time. Especially Bubby, he would've got to experience
43:38
that. Yeah, yeah, he ain't get to experience
43:40
it at all. No. So they went to the store, and,
43:45
you know, she would just buy stuff, break a lot
43:47
at the store or whatever. And I got a phone call,
43:50
because. We went back home. We did something.
43:52
We were always doing something. So he was just
43:54
dropped off. And I got a phone call. Oh, Eric,
43:58
I just got to tell you that Sean took a candy
44:00
out the store. Uh huh. And I was like, he did
44:03
what? He said, yeah, I didn't know it until we
44:06
got home way later. And I saw him had the candy.
44:09
If I knew that, I would have made him put it
44:11
back. You know, while we was in the store. Yeah,
44:14
nothing you can do now. Might as well let him
44:16
eat it. I wanted a candy, like you coulda asked.
44:24
Right, you with your grandma. Cause you woulda
44:26
give. You got it, you woulda easily got it. Cause
44:27
she should give it to you. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
44:32
With Sean, it was only one time. You don't have
44:34
to tell him too many times. It was just one time.
44:37
Now with that other one. Yeah, you gotta tell
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him a couple times. Yeah, he hard headed. Solid
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as a rock. Sean did take some seasoning for Red
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Robin though. Sean to the Red Roberts season.
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He pushed that shit right to go bad. He pushed
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that shit right to go bad. I ain't gonna lie,
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I let him do it too. Like he saw the golden opportunity.
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He saw that shit, he said, that shit fell in
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the bag. I was like, I did this close. Give him
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my plate, I just throw the plate on top of it.
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I ain't worried about it. Let's go. That's my
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bad. That's it. Anything else you want to add?
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You gotta get a little something like that out
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your system while you're little. You know, you
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gotta get it out. Anything else? Nah. All right,
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y 'all. This is Life and Love with Erica and
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Shawn. I thought she would have jumped in and
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said it with Erica, but she didn't. She wasn't
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prepared. She just, Erica. Turn her head to the
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side. You left me this time. We'll catch y 'all
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next week, man. Peace. Peace.