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043 - Let's Marry Harry Episodes 7 & 8 · Reality Hits Mat

• Michelle Harris: Welcome back to Reality Hits Matt. I'm your host, Michelle. And I'm Matt. So apologize that we didn't get Let's Marry Harry out on Tuesday. We've been we've been living life. Life has been happening, but we're Mat: Welcome back to Reality Hits Matt. I'm your host Michelle. And I'm Matt. So apologize that we didn't get Let's Marry Harriet on Tuesday. Yeah, just we've been living life. Wasn't wasn't in the cards this week. Life has been happening, but we're Michelle Harris: here on a Thursday. Well, not a Thursday for us, but this will be coming out on a Thursday to wrap up Let's Marry Harry. Yeah, let's get it over with. Yeah, I'm kinda over. Mat: Yeah, let's get it over with. Yeah. I think you're kinda over it. Michelle Harris: I'm a little over Harry just in general. and then I watched the reunion and I kinda got over all the girls as well. Mat: Ha ha ha. Michelle Harris: So we're gonna wrap this up. Still definitely entertaining watching this. I think this was an interesting approach to a dating reality TV show with Mat: think this was an interesting approach to a dating reality TV show. Michelle Harris: actually getting married at the end of it. But I don't think the severity needs to be repeated, in my opinion. So Mat: I don't think the sever needs to be repeated in my opinion. Michelle Harris: we'll jump did you have anything else to say or do you wanna just jump into the episodes? Mat: jump did you have anything else to say or do you to just jump episode? No, let's jump into episode seven and and let's get through it. Yeah, so episode seven, Sam so we had just seen Sam and her mom and her mom met Harry. Okay. Michelle Harris: Yeah. Yeah, so episode seven, Sam so we had just seen Sam and her mom and her mom met Harry. Okay. Her mom was not impressed wi with Harry. Sam as well still has hesitations about him lying to her. So we do have Mat: Her mom was not in not a fan, right, right. Harry. Sam as well still has hesitations about him lying to her. So we do Michelle Harris: the final three is Sam, Amber, and Danelle. So Sam is leaving her mom and going to the bar with Harry and she has this big decision, do I want to spend the night with Harry? Mat: Sam, Amber, and Danelle. So Sam is leaving her mom Harry and she has this big decision. Do I want to spend stay the night with him? Yeah, yeah. I'm glad you're not making me do recaps for these 'cause Yeah. Especially short little insights. Especially after our last episode of Let's Marry Hair, I was slightly, slightly intoxicated. Michelle Harris: Yeah. Giving you giving you short little insights to where we left off. Slightly, slightly intoxicated. No. So Sam meets Harry at the bar and Harry's worried that Sam's Mat: So Sam meets Harry at the bar and Harry's worried that Sam's Michelle Harris: mom doesn't like him at all and that would affect their relationship together, which yes, I would agree. Yeah, absolutely. Mat: affect their relationship together, which yeah. Right. Yeah, absolutely. So Sam explains to Harry that her mom is just really protective of her and in the past Michelle Harris: So Sam explains to Harry that her mom is just really protective of her and in the past she was known to make excuses for people like Sam would make excuses for people treating her shitty and it's easier for her to put rose colored glasses on. So she's just saying that her mom's being protective of her in those moments. Mat: known to make excuses for people like Sam would make excuses for people treating her shitty and it's easier for her to put rose colored glasses on. So she is just saying that her mom's being protective of her in those moments. Okay. She says that this is very serious if it ends in marriage because she only wants to do marriage once and the entire time Harry's like, Yeah me too, I get it. Yes. And she wants to get to know the real Harry. Michelle Harris: She says that this is very serious if it ends in marriage because she only wants to do marriage once and the entire time Harry's like, Yeah, me too. I get it. Yes. And she wants to get to know the real Harry. She asks Harry where his head is at. Harry says he's locked in and he's ready for marriage and he's destined for it. Mat: She asks Harry where his head is at. Harry says he's locked in and he's ready for marriage and he's destined for it. Okay. Sure he is. Sam says she hopes that this is the real Harry and she brings up that she's worried that he's putting on a front for the cameras. Yeah, yeah. And at this point, Harry gets really annoyed and like pissed off. Michelle Harris: Sam says she hopes that this is the real Harry and she brings up that she's worried that he's putting on a front for the cameras. Yeah. And at this point, Harry gets really and like pissed off. And he goes, That's not fair. Mat: And he goes, That's not fair. okay. Harry asks what she wants to do, and Sam says that she doesn't want things to get physical tonight and it be confused with just lust. So she would rather just sit here and have a conversation and really get to know each other one on one, like on a deep Right, right, okay. She says in an interview that she wanted a more deep conversation with him, which is what she just tried to do, but she didn't get that from him. Harry literally so she says, I want to have a conversation with you and he gets up and leaves. Michelle Harris: Harry asks what she wants to do and Sam says that she doesn't want things to get physical tonight and it be confused with just lust. So she would rather just sit here and have a conversation and really get to know each other one on one, like on a deeper level. She says in an interview that she wanted a more deep conversation with him, which is what she just tried to do, but she didn't get that from him. Harry literally so she says, I want to have a conversation with you, and he gets up and leaves. And it was like See ya later. Jeez. He says he's gonna head back to his hotel and they don't hug or kiss or anything, and he says, Well it was nice seeing you. So can I just sprinkle in the reunion at this point? Sure. Sam says in the reunion that he Mat: Okay. See you later. Jeez. He says he's gonna head back to his hotel and they don't hug or kiss or anything, and he says, Well, it was nice seeing you. Alright then. So can I just sprinkle in the reunion at this point? Sure. Sam says in the reunion that he Michelle Harris: at this point gave her like gun fingers and said, See you at the at the elimination Mat: this point gave her like gun fingers and said, see you at the at the elimination as he Michelle Harris: As he walked out. Mat: walked out. What an asshole. Sam says that him walking away like that made her feel Michelle Harris: Sam says that him walking away like that made her feel unheard and her future husband would have not acted like that and would have acted very differently. Sam says she doesn't want to force something that's not Mat: Yeah, yeah. Michelle Harris: right and it sucks because she is ready for marriage and she says she just wants to be loved. Mat: sucks because she is ready for marriage and she says she just wants to be loved. Alright. We go to the next morning and Sam is packing up her hotel room and she has decided not to even confront Harry about her feelings because he wouldn't even give her the answer she wants or deserves. Right. And she's decided that walking away from him was like him walking away from her was their goodbye. Right, okay. She leaves the ring behind and Michelle Harris: We go to the next morning and Sam is packing up her hotel room and she has decided not to even confront Harry about her feelings because he wouldn't even give her the answer she wants or deserves. And she's decided that walking away from him was like him walking away from her was their goodbye. Right. Okay. She leaves the ring behind and says Mat: Says leaving on her own terms is her respecting herself. Okay. Michelle Harris: leaving on her own terms is her respecting herself. Okay. Mat: That's fair. A producer goes to Harry's room to tell him that Sam left and decided that Harry is not her husband. Harry says he wishes he would have handled it better and wishes they could have cleared the air. Harry goes to meet with Alex Cooper at this point, Michelle Harris: A producer goes to Harry's room to tell him that Sam left and decided that Harry is not her husband. Harry says he wishes he would have handled it better and wish they could have cleared the air. Harry goes to meet with Alex Cooper at this point, Mat: And it looks like he's been crying for a while. So they have a very honest conversation, Michelle Harris: And it looks like he's been crying for a while. So they have a very honest conversation, Alex and Harry, about Sam leaving. Alex asks him like why she left. Harry tells her the truth about everything with having sex with Amber, and then Sam confronted him, so he had to lie and he had to pick someone, like he had to pick who to protect. He pr decided to protect Amber in that moment. Mat: And Harry about Sam leaving. Alex asks him like why she left. Harry tells her the truth about everything with having sex with Amber, and then Sam confronted him, so he had to lie and he had to pick someone, like he had to pick to protect. He pr decided to protect Amber in that moment. Michelle Harris: Alex keeps it real with Harry and says she understands why Amber asked you to do that, but it should you should have been honest with Sam. And Harry says he's still stuck because if he did that then he would Mat: Alex keeps it real with Harry and says she understands why Amber asked you to do that, but should you should have been honest with Sam. And Harry says he's still stuck because if he did that, then he would. would have broken Amber's trust. And like at this point like I'm like, okay, yes, but then you picked Amber in that moment. Right, right. Like you literally picked a girl. Yeah. absolutely, yeah, 'cause you were lying Michelle Harris: have broken Amber's trust. And like at this point, like I'm thinking I'm like, Okay, yes, but then you picked Amber in that moment. Right, right. Like you literally picked a girl out of the two of them in that moment. absolutely, yeah, because you were lying. Mat: to one or you were breaking the trust of one. So you broke the trust of Sam. Like how the hell are you ever gonna marry Sam with her and then after And then she was gonna see the show and that you lied to her? Michelle Harris: Right. Like how the hell were you ever gonna marry Sam when you lied to her and then after the marriage you're gonna have to come right? Like you lied to her? Alex says she knows the real Harry and she knows the he's honest and kind, but he did mess up because Sam asked him to be forthright and asked if he had sex with someone. Harry says what hurts him the most is Sam getting up and leaving and not having a final conversation with him. Sir the final conversation was when you were trying when she was trying to have a conversation with you the night before. Mat: And kind, but he did mess up because Sam asked him to be forthright and asked if he had sex with someone. Harry says what hurts him the most is Sam getting up and leaving and not having a final conversation with him. So the final conversation when she was trying to have a conversation with you tonight before. Michelle Harris: Alex points out that Sam had a feeling about him lying and she was right about it. Harry says today was the opportunity where he was gonna tell her the truth and Alex thinks that the perfect opportunity in Sam's opinion would would have been when she first asked him. Alex says to her advice is to not let this happen again and right now he doesn't really have a choice but to focus on the two girls in front of him and like let Sam go. Mat: Yeah. Harry says today was the opportunity where he was gonna tell her the truth. And Alex thinks that the perfect opportunity in Sam's opinion would would have been when she first asked him. Yeah. Alex says to her advice is to not let this happen again, and right now he doesn't really have a choice but to focus on the two girls in front of him and like let Sam go. Right. Michelle Harris: Alex asks him where his heart is at with the other girls, and Harry says that Amber is good, but she's really chaotic. And he says Danelle is at a crossroads in her life, but she is guarded. Alex thinks Harry is very good at self sabotaging himself. and if he was able to let go, he'll just know who the right person is. Harry comes back to the Mat: Alex asks him where his heart is at with the other girls, and Harry says that Amber is good, but she's really chaotic. And he says Dunnelle is at a crossroads in her life, but she is guarded. Alex thinks Harry is very good at self sabotaging himself. and if he was able to let go, he'll just know who the right person is. Okay. Harry comes back to the Michelle Harris: house and sits in a confessional and says him, Amber and Donnell are Mat: and sits in a confessional and says him, Amber, and Danelle are Michelle Harris: going to New Zealand where the girls get to meet his sisters. He says he's really nervous because this is the first time he'll be back since his dad passed away and this is the first time he's seen his sister since that last visit. Mat: New Zealand, where the girls get to meet his sisters. He says he's really nervous because this is the first time he'll be back since his dad passed away, and this is the first time he's seen his sisters since that last visit. Michelle Harris: They show Harry travelling back to New Zealand and he's very emotional when they land. He decided his feelings as he was driving through his home town and it's very like bittersweet. He is emotional about seeing his sisters and just remembering the last trip home. And he gets to his sister's house and goes inside and sees them and his nephews. And it was a very sweet moment with all of them together. So this is two of his, I guess, four sisters. Okay. They're meeting. Mat: They show Harry traveling back to New Zealand, and he's very emotional when they land. He decided his feelings as he is driving through his home town, and it's very like bittersweet. He is emotional about seeing his sisters and just remember. Remembering the last trip home, and he gets to his sister's house and goes inside and sees them and his nephews. And it was a very sweet moment with all of them. Right, okay. So this is two of his, I guess, four sisters. Okay. Okay. Harry tells them that Danel is perfect on paper for him. He says that he feels like he can be more playful with Amber, Michelle Harris: Harry tells them that Danelle is perfect on paper for him. He says that he feels like he can be more playful with Amber, but when Danelle is around, she makes him want to be a better guy. his sisters are very supportive of him and they are very happy that he's home and he can just be himself. They say when the cameras aren't around, he is a different person, but in a good way. Mat: But when Danelle is around, she makes him want to be a better guy. Okay. his sisters are very supportive of him and they're very happy that he's home and he can just be himself. They say when the cameras aren't around, he is a different person, but in a good way. Michelle Harris: so they think that New Zealand is kind of his safe space from all the chaos. Right, okay. He goes out to get Amber and Mat: so they think that New Zealand is kind of his safe space from all the chaos. Right, okay. He goes out to get Amber and Michelle Harris: Amber meets Harry's sisters and nephews. Harry's sister asks if she's ever been married before, and Amber explains, Yes, I have been, but growing up Mormon, it was expected for her to be married at a young age. She had gotten married at nineteen the expectation was to have a man lead and guide her life. Mat: Harry's sisters and nephews. Harry's sister asks if she's ever been married before, and Amber explains, Yes, I have been, but growing up Mormon, it was expected for her to be married at a young age. She had gotten married at nineteen, the expectation was to have a man lead and guide her life. She said she lost herself in that relationship, and that's when she decided to leave the church. Michelle Harris: She said she lost herself in that relationship and that's when she decided to leave the church. Mat: okay. Did we know this before? Michelle Harris: Mm, I knew she was married before. I don't know if I caught on to the Mormonism. If it was mentioned, it was like episode one when there was like twenty girls around. Harry takes his nephews outside so Amber can chat Mat: The Mormon. Okay. All right. Yeah. It was mentioned it was like episode one twenty. Okay, gotcha. Harry takes his nephews outside so Amber can chat with Michelle Harris: with his sisters. They ask Amber how she's feeling about the process and what she likes about Harry. Overall the family really likes Amber and thinks that she was composed and relaxed the whole time. Mat: Sisters, they ask Amber how she's feeling about the process and what she likes about Harry. Overall, the family really likes Amber and thinks that she was composed and relaxed the whole time. Michelle Harris: Amber and Harry leave for a date and they go on a helicopter ride. Harry says that Amber gave the lighthearted side today that he really needed. Mat: Amber and Harry leave for a date and they go on a helicopter ride. Harry says that Amber gave the light-hearted side today that he really needed. Michelle Harris: He says he sees Amber becoming his wife and thinks that they would have a really fun life together. Harry shows places from around where he grew up, like in this helicopter, like, that's where I got my tattoo and stuff like that. Just random buildings, but it's still really cool. Then they like start making out and I was like, What a waste of Right, I'm like, what a waste of time. Like they're Mat: He says he sees Amber becoming his wife and thinks that they would have a really fun life together. Okay. Harry shows places from around where he grew up, like in this helicopter, like, that's where I got my tattoo and stuff. Right, okay. So really cool. Then they like start making out and I was like, What is it? Michelle Harris: showing beautiful landscapes and views and like you're gonna suck face. Like, wait till you Mat: It's like Michelle Harris: land. Mat: All right. Michelle Harris: on this helicopter ride a rainbow pops up and Amber takes that as a sign since she's from Hawaii, which is the rainbow state. And that was the first sign she's experienced with Harry because remember the beast Harry with her. Mat: State. Okay. And that was the first sign she's experienced with Harry because remember the bees. yeah. The bee. The helicopter then drops him off on this beach and as it's taking back off like this is insight. As it's taking back off, like they run out. Michelle Harris: The helicopter then drops him off on this beach and as it's taking back off like this is a sight. As it's taking back off, like they run out. This helicopter's fifty feet behind them. It's trying to like lift back up. Yeah. Helicopters are pretty dangerous. She's legs wrapped around him, making out with him as they're like walking off this plane. And I'm like, can you take five seconds to not suck face and just like get out of the way? Mat: This helicopter's fifty feet behind them. It's trying to like lift back up. Yeah. Helicopters are pretty dangerous. She's legs wrapped around him, making out with him as they're like walking off this plane. And I'm like, can you take five seconds to not suck face and just like get out of the side? Yeah, yeah. Michelle Harris: That helicopter driver was probably Thank fucking God, like just leave. Harry the the pilot. Whatever. Mat: The helicopter driver? The the pilot. Michelle Harris: Harry asks Amber to be honest with him about how she's feeling because there's a big decision coming up in a few days. And Amber then goes, You go first. Mat: big decision coming up in a few days and Amber then goes, You go first. You go first. You say how you feel. Right. Michelle Harris: Bitch, just say how you feel. Right. Harry says that he wasn't sure if the emotions of him seeing his sister for the first time took over since his dad passed away, affected the day with Amber, but she brought the lightness that he needed in the day and really grounded him. Mat: Harry says that he wasn't sure if the emotions of him seeing his sister for the first time took over since his dad passed away, affected the day with Amber, but she brought the lightness that he needed in the day and really grounded him. Michelle Harris: He brings up the rainbow that they saw in the helicopter, and Amber says that that was her first sign since Harry Harry had the B signs. Mat: He brings up the rainbow that they saw in the helicopter, and Amber says that that was her first sign since Harry Harry had the bee signs. Harry brings up that there have been no other bees around anyone else, and Harry tells Amber that he's falling in love with her, and Amber says, I'm falling in love with you too. Okay. Amber does get pretty emotional in interviews saying that letting Michelle Harris: Harry brings up that there have been no other bees around anyone else, and Harry tells Amber that he's falling in love with her, and Amber says I'm falling in love with you too. Amber does get pretty emotional in interviews saying that letting love back into her life is scary because you never want to lose someone you love, but she's ready for marriage and this is a huge step for her. Mat: Her life is scary because you never want to lose someone you love, but she's ready for marriage and this is a huge step for her. Okay. So the next day it's Danelle's turn to meet Harry's family and they're leaving to go She's the one he gave the ring to, right? Yes. That's the only time it'll answer that question. Michelle Harris: So the next day it's Danelle's turn to meet Harry's family and they're leaving to go She's the one he gave the ring to, right? Yes. That's the only time I will answer that question in this podcast. Yeah, I couldn't remember last week. There's only two girls and it's Danelle. Mat: I couldn't remember last week. There's only two girls, and it's Denel. The next day Danelle and Harry are leaving to go meet his sisters, and Harry says he's more confused than ever. On the drive up, Danelle says she wants to say this to him first without his sisters being around in case it comes up, but she does love him. Okay. He says he loves her too. my. Michelle Harris: The next day Danelle and Harry are leaving to go meet his sisters and Harry says he's more confused than ever. On the drive up, Danelle says she wants to say this to him first without his sisters being around in case it comes up, but she does love him. Okay. He says he loves her too. my Donnell meets Mat: This whole family and she loves how Harry is around his niece and nephews. Danelle shows his sister her engagement ring and Harry points out the second ring he gave her. He tells his sister that he this this is this is where I'm like just leave this part out. He tells his sister that he had the second ring because he thought it would be funny to see if someone was there for just his money, which is why the ring has a very small diamond on it. Okay. So it was basically like but you only brought one. Yeah. Michelle Harris: his whole family and she loves how Harry is around his niece and nephews. Dunnell shows his sister her engagement ring and Harry points out the second ring he gave her. He tells his sister that he this this is this is where I'm like w just leave this part out. He tells his sister that he had the second ring because he thought it would be funny to see if someone was there for just his money, which is why the ring has a very small diamond on it. Okay. So it was basically like But you only brought one. Mat: So you're gonna Michelle Harris: So you g Mat: you're gonna pick and see if that girl's just there for your money and be like and react like snotty to your Yeah, that's kinda last diamond engagement. What like that this is the shit that confuses me about this man. Dunnell this entire time is very sweet to his whole family and to me, like I feel like she Michelle Harris: you're gonna pick and see if that girl's just there for your money and be like and react like snotty to your small ass diamond engagement ring? What? Like that that's the shit that confuses me about this man. Danelle this entire time is very sweet to his whole family, and to me, like I feel like she fit in better than Amber. To me, Amber gave off like I'm gonna put on a front to like make them like me. Mat: fit in better than Amber. To me, Amber gave off like I'm gonna put on a front to like okay. Yeah. It was very fake to me. I feel like Donell seems like genuine. Okay. Could have been nerves, like I'm like not Michelle Harris: It was very fake to me. I feel like Danelle's just like real. And it could have been nerves. Like I'm like not saying that maybe Amber was nervous. So like that could have come off as fake. But like Danelle just as a whole, like she's a nurse. She's sweet. She like is just down to earth. She's asking them about their lives and their father, saying, it's been a year since your dad passed away. How are you guys doing with that? Like I know Harry's been struggling. Like it just seems more like I wanna get to know you guys as well. Whereas Amber's like Mat: Saying that maybe Amber was nervous, so like that could have come off as fake, but like Danelle just as a whole, like she's a nurse, she's sweet, she like it's just down to earth. She's asking them about their lives and their father, saying, it's been a year since your dad passed away. How are you guys doing with that? Like I know Harry's been struggling, like more like I want to get to know you guys as well. Whereas Amber's like, Michelle Harris: Yeah, you ask me questions about me. You know, like you know and maybe they just didn't show that side of Mat: Yeah, you ask me questions about me, you know, like Yeah, show that side of Michelle Harris: Amber's visit, but yeah, it just if to me I'm like Danelle was the s standout of these two visits, in my opinion. Harry goes to his sister's one on one, so Danelle's back with his niece and nephews and I think one of their husbands maybe. And they think Danelle is very lovely and kind. Mat: Yeah, it could be the way it was edited. It's just if to me I'm like Danelle was the s standout of these two visits. Yeah. Yeah. Harry goes to his sisters one on one, so Danelle's back with his niece and nephews and I think one of their husbands maybe. And they think Danelle is very lovely and kind. Michelle Harris: back up. So after they talk about the ring the second ring, they asked Sunel about her family as well and it comes up that when she was fifteen she found out that her dad wasn't her real dad. Mat: jeeze. Okay. Her parents went through a divorce at fifteen and that's when her mom came out. Michelle Harris: So her parents went through a divorce at fifteen and that's when her mom came out and told her that her dad wasn't her real dad. She then went on this journey at sixteen to find her real dad. She knew from the information she got from her mom that he was a cop in Texas. So she did a DNA test and came back with kind of somewhat of an area, reached out to a police department there. Mat: She then went on this journey at sixteen to find her real dad. Yeah. She knew from the information she got from her mom that he was a cop in Texas. Okay. So she did a DNA test and came back with kind of somewhat of an area, reached out to a police department there that she knew he like worked for. Okay. Asked for like someone with the first name, whatever. Michelle Harris: that she knew he like worked for and asked for like someone with the first name, whatever. They Mat: They got him in contact and he called and then they did a DNA like test and then it turns out and now she's very close with him. Did sh did he know? No. Michelle Harris: got him in contact and he called and then they did a DNA like test and then it turns out and now she's very close with him. Did sh did he know? No. Mat: So So he he had a sixteen year old daughter. Yeah. She found out that her dad wasn't her real Michelle Harris: So he found out that he had a sixteen year old daughter and she found out that her dad wasn't her real dad. Yeah. Yeah. Mat: dad. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Okay. Right. Because she had trust issues with her mom, but she worked through that with Michelle Harris: She said it caused a lot of issues, trust issues between her and her partners moving forward. Right. Because she had trust issues with her mom, but she worked through that with her mom and going to therapy. For a while she was kind of, I guess, like, I don't have any trauma, it's just it's a story, whatever. Right. But she's been working through that. So that was a really interesting background to Danelle where it's like, Okay, now I can kind of see like the guards being up where it's like having that major trust issue. Yeah, for sure. Mat: therapy for a while she was kind of I guess like, I don't have any trauma, it's just it's a story, whatever. Right. She's been working through that. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, for sure. Kind see like the guards being on the having that major trust issue. Yeah, for sure. So Harry's with his sister one on one and they think Danelle's very lovely and kind. They say that the two of them are quite different to one another Michelle Harris: So Harry's with his sister one-on-one and they think Danelle's very lovely and kind. They say that the two of them are quite different to one another, whereas Amber seems a little bit more outgoing and but she's also go with the flow. Harry says that Danelle is more sure of what she wants and everything is perfect with her. He says he's used to relationships having more problems. Why do they need to have problems? Mat: Whereas Amber seems a little bit more outgoing and it but she's also go with the flow. Right. Why do they need to have problems? Like that's your problem, dude. Michelle Harris: Like that's your problem, dude. Like I like it doesn't need you don't need to dig for more. You don't need to find the issue if it's good. Mat: Yeah. Well, that's just him. Like he's a problem. Yeah. You don't need to find the issue if it's good. Right. Michelle Harris: He says he's always known about Danelle. Like I've always since day one been drummed since our first c like conversation, but Amber has seen more of a question mark throughout the process. Mat: He says he's always known about Danelle. Like I've always since day one been drummed since our first c like conversation, but Amber has seen more of a question mark throughout the process. Okay. Michelle Harris: when Harry and Danelle were talking to her sisters, they were like, Are you two in love? and they both said yes. So sisters confront Harry about that and she was like basically like that should be your answer if you're in love with her. Harry asked his sister who his dad would like and they both answer and say Danelle. So at this point I'm like, all the signs are pointing to Danelle, right? Right, right. Mat: When Harry and Danelle were talking to her sisters, they were like, Are you two in love? and they both said yes. So sisters confront Harry about that, and she was like basically like that should be your answer if you're in love with her. Yeah. Harry asked his sister who his dad would like, and they both answer and say Danelle. So at this point I'm like, all the signs are pointing to Danelle, right? Right, right. However, one sister says that she personally would pick Amber and Okay. I could call that like and the other sister says I would. Michelle Harris: However, one sister says that she personally would pick Amber and he was like, I could call that lake and the other sister says I would pick Danelle And their personalities defin definitely seem like they vibe with that. Mat: Okay. Michelle Harris: Danelle and Harry leave for a date and they go to feed baby sheep. Dennelle says that he she can see herself with Harry and having a family with him and bringing them to these types of adventures. Harry says he was hoping that this trip would give him clarity, but all it did was get him more confused. He says he's exhausted. Okay. Mat: Sheep. Danelle says that he she can see herself with Harry and having a family with him and bringing them to these types of adventures. Harry says he was hoping that this trip would give him clarity, but all it did was get him more confused. He says he's exhausted. Okay. And during this date, like you could definitely tell he was more pressed. Michelle Harris: And during this date, like you could definitely tell he was more present during the Amber date. And during this date towards the end, like they were very quiet and together, which isn't a problem, but I'm like, ooh, maybe they're not connecting, or maybe he like wants it to be a problem. Or maybe he just straight up is exhausted and he like, I can't do this anymore. The next day the girls are going home and Harry's by himself. He says that he started this journey to find a wife, but now he has to find himself. Mat: State towards the end, like they were very quiet and together, which isn't a problem, but I'm maybe they're not connecting like wants it to be a problem. Right. Or maybe he just straight up is exhausted. He's like, I can't do this anymore. Yeah. The next day the girls are going home and Harry's by himself. He says that he started this journey to find a wife, but now he has to find himself. Michelle Harris: He says that he thought coming back to his home would make him happy and provide clarity, but it did the Mat: He says that he thought coming back to his home would make him happy and provide clarity, but it did the Michelle Harris: opposite. He doesn't know if he's ready to marry either of them, and it's not fair for him to bring either of them into this trauma he's going through. And at this point he's on the beach where he last spent some time with his dad. He's very emotional. He like breaks down crying and he's like by himself and there's just like a camera filming him at this point. So he is very lost. Mat: He doesn't know if he's ready to marry either of them, and it's not fair for him to bring either of them into this trauma he's going through. And at this point he's on the beach where he last spent some time with his dad. Okay. He's very emotional. He like breaks down crying and he's like by himself, and there's like a camera filming him at this point. So he's very lost. Okay. Michelle Harris: So and I feel I feel deeply for him and Mat: So and I feel I feel deeply for him and Michelle Harris: this, but I guess maybe I would have wanted to s like the fact that you're down to the final two and I know that that's emotional and like you're falling for people, but Mat: guess maybe I would have wanted this s like, the fact that you're down to the final two and I know that that's emotional and like you're falling for people, but Michelle Harris: I thought maybe he would have worked through a little bit more of this ahead of deciding he wanted to get married in a couple of days. Like, you know, like in in the fact that the end game is marriage. Mat: Maybe he would have worked through a little bit more of this ahead of deciding you want to get married in a couple of days. Right. Yeah. It's not the end game is I pick you, let's date and see how this goes. It's yeah, it's marriage. Right. So it's not like which girl can help me through this, like Yeah. Michelle Harris: It's not the end game is I pick you, let's date and see how this goes. It's it's you're about to get married. Right. So it's not like which girl can help me through this, like Yeah, it it's a lot. Mat: Yeah. Michelle Harris: So that was the end of episode seven. Okay. Mat: Okay. Michelle Harris: I'm not gonna lie, my notes are very short on episode eight, guys. I just Mat: Eight guys, I just and Michelle Harris: There there was a lot that happened but not a lot that happened at the same time because it is like leading up to like weddings and stuff. But at the same time I also was like my fucking god I can't let's just figure it out And part of this, you guys too is that I after finishing episode eight I watched the reunion Mat: there there was a lot that happened but not a lot that happened at the same time because it is like leading up to like weddings and stuff. Yeah. But at the same time I also was like Over it. my fucking god, it can't be That's fair. That's fair. Let's just get through it. And part of this, you guys, too, is that I after finishing episode eight I watched the reunion. Michelle Harris: and I have never seen an entire group of twenty well, nineteen women because Juliana didn't show up to the reunion. Mat: And I have never seen an entire group of twenty well, nineteen women because Juliana didn't show up to the reunion. Of nineteen women all on the same page about how horrible this man is. okay. To the point where and some of them were very vocal and some of them were vocal, but they got kicked off very early on, so I'm like, Okay, I get it, but were you just pissed? But Yeah, yeah, just mad you got it. Yeah. That Michelle Harris: Of nineteen women all on the same page about how horrible this man is. To the point where and some of them were very vocal and some of them were vocal but they got kicked off very early on, so I'm like, Okay, I get it, but were you just pissed? But they were all kind of in this agreement that Mat: he d he Michelle Harris: He d he one of them did say he treated it like a brothel. One of them said that he had girls like lined up, like, and talk to this girl, this girl, this girl, next, and then it's like you just show up and start making out with him. One of the girls said that, you know, at one at one point it was like so all in our face, like that he was like hugging people in the common spaces and like making out with them that they all did feel slightly uncomfortable because it was like, you know, we know that that's gonna happen, but it was like right in front of our faces. So then Rakaya, they Mat: making out Yeah, yeah. One of the girls said that, you know, at one at one point it was like so all in our face like that he was like hugging people in the common spaces and like making out with them that they all did feel slightly uncomfortable because it was like, you know, we know that that's gonna happen, but it was like right in front of Right, right. Rakaiah they showed an unseen clip of Rakaier kind of confronting Harriet, like, you know, can you like keep that a little bit more private? Yeah. You know, if you are looking for a wife, like Michelle Harris: showed an unseen clip of Rakaya kind of fr confronting Harry of like, you know, can you like keep that a little bit more private? Like, you know, if you are looking for a wife, like you want to respect that person that you end up choosing and like making out with people in front of everyone is kind of not respectful. Mat: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Michelle Harris: And then after that, Harry took it as like kiss gate and he like kept telling girls, he's like, I really want to kiss you, but I can't, and like making Rakaya seem like a villain for that and all that. So it just it just seemed like a lot where it's like Mat: kiss gate and he like kept telling girls he like, I really want to kiss you but I can't and like my God seemed like a villain to Yeah all that so it just it just seemed like a lot where it's like he got told no or got told someone was uncomfortable and then he immediately took that as I'm so sorry that I made you feel uncomfortable. Let's try to figure out a way that this works for everyone because like I can't just not kiss my f like I can't not kiss Right right. He took that as someone told me no like I Michelle Harris: He got told no or got told someone was uncomfortable and then he immediately took that as I'm so sorry that I made you feel uncomfortable. Let's try to figure out a way that this works for everyone because like I can't just not kiss my f like I can't not kiss people. He took that as someone told me no, like I I can't do like, come on, dude, like, God, give me the ick. Mat: Can't do like come on dude. Like, Michelle Harris: So they are back in LA at the house. Harry thinks that he needs more time and is confused. Harry goes to meet Sonny and Amanda for coffee. They asked how things are going, what's happened since they left, since when they left there was five girls. So they don't even know who the final two are. Yeah. Mat: thinks that he needs more time and is confused. Harry goes to meet Sonny and Amanda for coffee. They asked how things are going, what's happened since they left, since when they left there is five girls. right, right. Okay. Yeah. Michelle Harris: Harry catches them up and Harry asks, like, what would happen if I picked no one? Sonny says Mat: Harry catches them up and Harry asks, like, What would happen if I picked no one? Sonny says, like, you don't get married, alright? Like not even like continue after and he's like, No, like I end this process and I'm done. And Sonny says there should be zero pressure for you to marry someone or pick someone and you should do what's right for you because at the end of the day that's gonna be the most respectful for everyone. Like yeah. He isn't under Yeah, yeah. Michelle Harris: like you don't get married or anything like not even like continue after and he was like, No, like I end this process and I'm done. And Sonny says there should be zero pressure for you to marry someone or pick someone and you should do what's right for you because at the end of the day that's gonna be the most respectful for everyone. Like Like if he isn't unsure, like he shouldn't be marrying either of them. Yeah, scrap the show though. Amanda says that she doesn't know if she likes that. Mat: Yeah, scrap the show then. Don't release it though. Amanda says that she doesn't know if she likes that. She says there's two amazing women in front of Michelle Harris: She says there's two amazing women in front of him and if he does love them, just go for it. Harry says with them being at odds and his sister not sisters not agreeing on which one, he's realizing that no one can help him and this is only his decision. Amber. Yeah, and I don't necessarily think Mat: Harry says with them being at odds and his sister not sisters not agreeing on which one, he's realizing that no one can help him and this is only his decision. Okay. I mean you should pick your wife, not your sisters. Michelle Harris: I think at that point too he was like, Should I even get married? And they aren't agreeing on that. So the the conflict of am I ready for marriage is one thing. Right. And then who I should marry, who he leaned on his sisters, was another. And no one's agreeing on anything. Right, right. So he's like, What the fuck? Like what do I do? You know, he's not doesn't have the right mindset. Mat: Should I even get married? And they aren't agreeing on that. So the the conflict of the am I ready for marriage is one thing. Right. And then who should marry, who we lead on his sisters, is another Another thing, yeah. No one's agreeing on it. Right, right. So he's What the fuck? What do I do? And you know, he's not doesn't have the right mindset in any w way, shape, or form to decide anything. So yeah, let's keep going. What happens next? So Michelle Harris: Yeah, let's keep going. happens next? So we cut to Amber and Danelle going dress shopping. At this point I'm like, they're both gonna buy dresses? Mat: Like they're both gonna buy this. Michelle Harris: Like I thought we were gonna have like an elimination and then we would witness one girl plan the wedding. No, they're both gonna get dresses and be wearing dresses, and then he's gonna tell someone to go home in a wedding dress. Like, what the fuck is happening, right? Mat: Right. No, they're both gonna get dresses and be wearing dresses and then he's gonna tell someone to go home in a white That's messed up. man. So Amber has I mean like there Michelle Harris: So Amber she is Mat: was already twenty engagement rings. Like why not have two wedding dresses? yeah, yeah. Michelle Harris: No, I'm like but I'm like, how can we make this more fucked up? We have three rings involved with two girls and they're both going wedding dress shopping. Mat: They're both fucking wedding dresses. Both getting wedding dresses. Awesome. Michelle Harris: Amber goes dress shopping and she FaceTimes her mom and her mom says that she still has mixed feelings about everything and asked Amber she said she went to Amber's dad's grave and asked him to send a sign to show that she like it it's the right answer. This is the right decision. Mat: And asked Amber she said she went to Amber's dad's grave and asked him to send a sign to show that she like it it's the right answer. This is the right decision. Okay. Michelle Harris: Danelle goes dress shopping. Donnelle says that she has the qualities that Harry needs in a wife. Dennelle FaceTimes her friend and says she's sh trying to stay in the moment and just focus on what they have and not worry about Harry with someone else. The next day Harry meets Danelle at the park. So this is the last day before the big wedding day. Okay. And he's gonna have a one on one with each of the girls. Mat: Danelle goes dress shopping. Danelle says that she has the qualities that Harry needs in a wife. Danelle FaceTimes her friend and says she's trying to stay in the moment and just focus on what they have and not worry about Harry with someone else. The next day, Harry meets Danelle at the park. So this is the last day before the big wedding day. Okay. And he's gonna have a one-on-one with each of the girls. Okay. Michelle Harris: The next day Harry meets Danelle at the park and brings his dogs. Harry's looking for clarity. Danelle is so sure of her feelings about Harry and marrying him. she says she's so excited for her future. Danelle does open up that she's trying to be excited about everything, but it's hard because she knight might not be the one he picks. Harry says that he's been stressed over and over analyzing th everything. Danelle asks is there's anything about her that makes Harry worried and he says no. He thinks that she would make a perfect wife and that's the problem. Mat: Says she's so excited for her future. Danelle does open up that she's trying to be excited about everything, but it's hard because she knight might not be the one who picks. Right. Harry says that he's been stressed over and over analyzing everything. Danelle asks if there's anything about her that makes Harry worried, and he says no. He thinks that she would make a perfect wife, and that's the problem. Harry knows That's a problem. Michelle Harris: Harry knows Danelle is all in and Amber might not be. Like he says that in an interview. Okay. This whole Mat: Okay. Okay. This whole Michelle Harris: Meet up. Mat: Need up. Michelle Harris: just was very lackluster from Harry's side. Very like just quiet. Yeah. You could tell he's in his own head and not present. Right. And it to me, I'm like, that is a very bad last impression Mat: just was very lackluster from Harry's side. Very like just quiet. Yeah. You could tell he's in his own head and not present. Right. And it to me I'm like that is a very bad last impression. Michelle Harris: leaving into a wedding day. Right. Mat: leaving into wedding day. Right. However, like from Danelle's hearing that she would make the perfect wife probably is giving her hope, right? Right, absolutely. Although you still kind of questioning but I kind of got left feeling like I'm like I'm not sure here. Yeah, yeah. Michelle Harris: However, like from Danelle's standpoint, hearing that she would make the perfect wife probably is giving her hope, right? Right. So you still are kinda questioning it, but I I like I kinda got left feeling like I'm like, like not not looking too good for Danelle. Mat: Harry goes to meet up with Amber. Amber says she is going to heart on the line and show Harry Michelle Harris: Harry goes to meet up with Amber. Amber says she's going to put her heart on the line and show Harry that she really cares about him. Amber tells Harry that she feels like they are meant for each other and that she's in love with him. Harry admits to Amber that there was something mysterious about her and he wasn't sure, but after the overnight, he felt safe and scene. Harry says that when he's having a rough day, she's the first person he wants to see because he knows. Mat: Amber tells Harry that she feels like they are meant for each other and that she's in love with him. Okay. Harry admits to Amber that there was something mysterious about her and he wasn't sure, but after the overnight he felt safe and seen. Harry says that when he's having a rough day, she is the first person he wants to see because he knows that she will make him feel better. Okay. Michelle Harris: We go to wedding day and they are both getting ready to get married and they're both in dress Mat: We go to wedding day and they are both getting ready to get married and they're both in dressing. Michelle Harris: and makeup. They are in they got have their hair done, they have the veils on, they're writing vows. There's a photographer taking photos of them. Yes. Yes. Friends show Mat: their hair done, they have the veils on, they're writing vows. Okay. They're the photographer taking photos. Like getting ready photos for each of them. Friends show. Michelle Harris: up, they're all ooing and g over this Yeah. Yeah, like come into the room. Mat: like their friends are there? Yeah. 'Cause they don't know who's gonna be yeah, okay. my gosh. You're not, you don't know. Michelle Harris: Right. So they're ooing and gong and be like, I can't believe you're getting married today and it's like they're both having this morning. Like they're both doing this. I'm like this seems so ridiculous. Harry then goes to meet with the girl he's sending home and it's Danelle. Danelle was not expecting to see him when she opened the door and Harry says, Can we have a talk? Mat: Mm. Danelle was not expecting to see him when she opened the door and Harry says, Can we have a talk? They sit down and Harry states that he was second guessing everything this week and she doesn't deserve someone who would second guess her. Okay. Danelle's like giving him daggers. Okay. Michelle Harris: They sit down and Harry states that he was second guessing everything this week and she doesn't deserve someone who would second guess her. Danelle's like giving him daggers. Like she is pissed and she does not shed a single tear in front of this man. And she is just fucking livid. Danelle says she doesn't have much to say to Harry and says that she just feels stupid. She gives him a hug and he leaves. Like literally, like it's so quick. Like there's not some long out and she said that in the reunion, like it wasn't some drawn out conversation, it wasn't this like emotional crazy thing. It was you came, you told me you're getting married, but it wasn't to me, and you left and I left my rings behind. Right. Right. I'd be like, my god, scarring. Mat: Danelle says she doesn't have much to say to Harry and says that she just feels gives him a hug and he leaves. Like literally, like it's so quick. Yeah. There's nothing. Yeah. And she said that in the reunion. Like it wasn't some long out conversation. It wasn't this like emotional crazy thing. It was Yeah. You came, you told me you're getting married, but it wasn't to me, and and I left my rings behind. And I'm sitting here in a wedding dress with my makeup done. Michelle Harris: Danelle says she feels super blindsided. She takes off both her rings and says she felt like it was real on her end, but obviously it wasn't on his because if it was, they would be getting married. Harry goes to the ceremony and says that he has to trust his gut with Amber. He says that it was the toughest breakup with Danelle and picking Amber who can be a wild card makes him nervous. Mat: They would be getting married. Yeah. Harry goes to the ceremony and says that he has to trust his gut with Amber. He says that it was the toughest breakup with Danelle and picking Amber, who can be a wild card, makes him nervous. Why? Why pick her? Right? Why pick her? Michelle Harris: So why pick her? Why pick her? Like what what are we doing here? Amber shows up and she walks down the aisle and they get married and exchange their own vows. Amber has this b or Harry has this beautiful speech, wears his dad's glasses for it, says, I wore these glasses so my dad could see how beautiful you are all this stuff, everyone's crying and gushing. Amber literally does not have anything written down. Mat: She walks down the aisle and they get married and exchange their own vows. Okay. Amber has this or Harry has this beautiful speech, wears his dad's glasses for it, says, I wore these glasses so my dad could see how beautiful you are. All this stuff. Everyone's crying and gushing. Amber literally does not have anything written down. Like this girl just shows up and goes, I'm just gonna speak from my heart. Bitch, you did not want to get married. And she starts her Michelle Harris: Like this girl just shows up and goes, I'm just gonna speak from my heart. Bitch, you did not want to get married. And she starts her speech with, I didn't really want to come here. But life has different plans for me. Okay. Why are we both here? Why did you walk down Mat: But life has different plans for me. Okay. Why are people here? Why did you want to Michelle Harris: the aisle? Why did you show up at this ceremony? Why why did you break up with Danelle? Mat: Why did you break up with Denel? Yeah, yeah. This is terrible. Michelle Harris: This just to me, I'm like, this is terrible. This is terrible. Like I knew at this moment they were gonna end up together. They both exchange rings and they are married and then they show photos of Mat: Yeah, yeah. Michelle Harris: the Amber and Harry together over the next couple weeks. The end. Mat: Weeks the end. So So are they together? No. No? So in the reunion, like they're not? Yeah. Michelle Harris: So are they together? No. No. So in the reunion, like they're not? Yeah, she comes out fired up and does not let Harry talk to the point where they had to bring Harry out after the reunion ended by himself so he could speak because Amber would not let him speak. What was her why so apparently Mat: So so he could speak because I would not let him speak. What was her why so I'm apparently he made it this far apparently they Michelle Harris: Apparently they got married and then they went on a trip together and part of the trip was going to Australia. But Mat: going to Australia. But because the show hadn't come out yet, you can't travel together, you can't be seen out in public together, you have to like keep things Okay, fair, yeah. So Harry's like I had this whole plan where I was gonna fly, I flew out first and then Amber was gonna fly out, I was gonna pick her up at the airport. Then we were gonna go straight to the hotel. He's like we got to the hotel and like the elevators were broken and we were on like the twelfth Michelle Harris: Because the show hadn't come out yet, you can't travel together, you can't be seen out in public together, you have to like keep things very hush hush. So Harry's like, I had this whole plan where I was gonna fly, I flew out first, and then Amber was gonna fly out. I was gonna pick her up at the airport, then we were gonna go straight to the hotel. He's like, We got to the hotel and like the elevators were broken and we were on like the twelfth floor. So he's like, So we found like a nook in like the hotel lobby, and at this point they had already been spotted together. So Netflix was picked. Mat: So he's like so we found like a nook in like the hotel lobby and at this point they had already been spotted together. Okay. Netflix was pissed. So they were like trying to hide in a in a in the lobby. Someone took a photo of them Michelle Harris: So they're like trying to hide in a in a in the lobby. Someone took a photo of them, posted it on like whatever t a TMZ page thing or whatever. Netflix calls again is like, what the fuck are you guys doing? So Harry decided to reach out to a local Australian influencer and ask if they could post photo like videos together on TikTok to kind of like maybe throw people off of like, I just met up with her Mat: posted it on like whatever t a T Z page. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Netflix calls again and, like, what the fuck are you guys doing? So Harry decided to reach out to a local Australian influencer and ask if they could post photo like videos together on TikTok to kinda like maybe throw people off. Of like, I just met up with her Michelle Harris: to say hi after like she was w we were both in Australia and we just were hanging out saying hi. And so he's like, I'm just gonna post and this other girl apparently had a boyfriend. Mat: to say hi after like she was we were both in Australia and we just were Yeah, yeah, okay. And so he was like, I'm just gonna post and this other girl apparently had a boyfriend. Okay. Amber says that he ditched her on their honeymoon to go make TikToks with this girl and it was like, you know, he didn't really want to hang out with her. Yeah. She was like kinda hidden away and and all this stuff. And one of the other girls was like Michelle Harris: Amber says that he ditched her on their honeymoon to go make TikToks with this girl and that it was like, you know, he didn't really want to hang out with her and she felt like she was like kinda hidden away and and all this stuff. And one of the other girls was like, I was actually in Australia and I met up with Amber during all this and like, yeah, Harry was kinda like being dismissive and he's like and Harry's like, Well, you guys were getting drunk in a hotel lobby all day, so like I didn't want to participate in that and they're No, we weren't, we're spending quality time together. It's a lot. Yeah. Mat: dismiss it. okay. And Harry's like, Well you guys were getting drunk in a hotel lobby all day, so like I didn't want to participate in that. Right. We weren't we're spending quality time together. But also like you couldn't be seen like it's a lot. It's a lot. It is a lot and like but Amber's point and I get that is like you've done other shows where you can't reveal the outcome. Right. Yeah. Not really understanding the the after Michelle Harris: It is a lot and like but Amber's point and I get that is like you've done other shows where you can't reveal the outcome. Like this isn't your first rodeo with a reality T V show and like not really understanding the the after part of it. Right. And so Amber was like at that point, like I guess they kept getting into fights. So Harry's opinion is that they broke up in Australia. Okay. Mat: Right. And so Amber was like at that point, like I guess they kept getting into fights. So Harry's opinion is that they broke up in Australia. Okay. Michelle Harris: Amber says we took time apart and when we flew back he reached out to Danelle and Danelle flew out and spent the weekend with him. So he cheated on me with Danelle. Right, right. And Danelle has the ring back, by the way. Her her the second one, the little one. And she's still wearing it. At the reunion. At the reunion she Mat: Amber says we took time apart and when we flew back, he reached out to Danelle and Danelle flew out and spent the weekend with him. So he cheated on me with Danelle. Right, right. And wow. the little wearing it. At the reunion. At the reunion she has Michelle Harris: has it on. But he's married to Amber. Well they're divorced they're not together right now, but he told Danelle Mat: But he's married to Amber. Well they're divorced they're not together right now, but he told Danelle that he had broken up with Amber. They're not together anymore. Danelle flies out. Did they get a divor like were they really married? I think so. I think so. Okay, alright. So Danelle f Danelle tells Harry, you know, like Michelle Harris: that he had broken up with Amber, they weren't together anymore. Danelle flies out. She thinks like were they really married? I think so. I think so. Okay, alright. So Danelle f Danelle tells Harry, you know, like d Danelle's opinion was I was told by Harry that they were broken up. Okay. So in my mind, he was single. Yeah. Mat: Dinnelle's opinion was I was told by Harry that they were broken up. Okay. So in my mind, he was single. Yeah. Michelle Harris: Amber's like why didn't you reach out to me and ask me how we were doing? She goes, Why the fuck would I reach out to you when you didn't even reach out to me to see how I was doing after he broke up with me? Mat: Amber's like, why didn't you reach out to me and ask me how we were doing? She goes, Why the fuck would I reach out to you? Right. Right. Well, like, yeah, it'll even know you. Like you it was like a few weeks. Right, right. She was like, Who told you that we broke up? She was like, Harry. And she starts attacking Danelle and the other girls were like, Well Michelle Harris: And he was like he was like he's like she's like, I don't owe you anything. And she's like, Who told you that we broke up? She's like, Harry and she starts attacking Danelle and the other girls were like, Whoa, whoa, whoa, like this this ain't it. Have your issue with him. Yeah. And so they're fighting at the reunion and Amber Mat: This this ain't it. How's this Harry's problem? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Michelle Harris: comes off so bad during this reunion. At one point she says that he weaponized his father's the his grief about his father passing away. Like she does. And she goes, The fact that you use your grief as a storyline Mat: Like she does and she goes, The fact that you use your grief as a storyline Michelle Harris: Is is absolutely appalling to me all this stuff and I'm like, that's not okay. Now you're just sputing nonsense and every single time someone like started to like kinda critique her, she would just start yelling and I'm like, let someone else fucking talk Even the host was like, Amber, we have to let other people talk. Like Mat: is is absolutely appalling to me, all that stuff and I'm like, That's not okay. Yeah. Now you're just spewing nonsense and every single time someone like started to like kinda critique her, she would just start yelling, and I'm like, Let someone else fucking talk You supposedly talk like Right, Michelle Harris: I'm like, my Mat: right. Michelle Harris: god, I'm like, this is not okay. This is not okay. This is not okay. We also come to find out that it wasn't just Amber and Donnell that he had sex with. He also had sex with Abby. And Abby, they had sex two times. Okay. Once in the production van after he sent Rakaya home. And the second time in a closet the night that he had sex with Amber, but before he had sex with Amber. Mat: This is not okay. This is not okay. We also come to find out that it wasn't just Amber and Dennell that he had sex with. He also had sex with Abby. And Abby they had sex two times. Okay. Once in the production van after he sent Rakiah home. And the second time in a closet the night that he had sex with Amber, but before he had sex with Amber. Okay. Jeez. And Abby has like no shits given. Michelle Harris: And Abby has like no shits given. She was like I she was like, I wanted some of that. I was like, Good Mat: Yeah. She's like I wanted some of that. Michelle Harris: for you, girl. She's like she's like, I was cooped up in a house with twenty other girls. Like, what did you expect me to do? Like, I was bored. I was like, That's Steve's girl for ya I mean, she owned Mat: There you go. Michelle Harris: it. But yeah. Mat: Yeah. I mean overall Sam was like I'm very happy with my choices, like I Yeah. No, that was all the girls were like Harry could have respected both of them by saying, you know, like my Michelle Harris: I mean overall Sam was like, I'm very happy with my choices, like I Yeah I'm glad and like 'cause all the girls were like Harry could have respected both of them by saying, you know, like my intimacy Mat: see with Amber, like we want to keep things private, just like I would keep things private with you. Like there's way you could go about it. But like Sam's point, she was like, it it's not even about that. It's just he picked in that moment and I said send me home or I would go like would go home. Yeah, yeah. Michelle Harris: with Amber, like we want to keep things private, just like I would keep things private with you. Like there's a way you could go about but like Sam's point, she was like it it's not even about that, it's just he picked in that moment and I said, Send me home or I would go like I would go home. Mat: Like if she if he wanted to be with me he wouldn't have he would have picked like Yeah. And so and I totally agree with that. So Michelle Harris: Like if she if he wanted to be with me, he wouldn't have he would have picked, like and so I'm like and I totally agree with that. So Mat: like what else happened like Is he with Danelle still or no? Okay. Michelle Harris: Is he with Danelle still? No. So after that weekend of them like hanging out, watching Netflix, doing it, ordering food, all that, he brings her to the airport and basically says, like, Yeah, I don't think that this will ever like become a thing and she's like, What the fuck? You just did the you did it again to me Mat: Doing it, ordering food, all that. He brings her to the airport and basically says, like, Yeah, I don't think that this will ever like become a thing and she's like, What the fuck? You just did the you did it again to me. So Danelle Michelle Harris: So Danelle was pissed. Okay. So they're not together. He has like a separate girlfriend outside of the show that he in the after ro interview with him he says Mat: was pissed. Okay. So they're not together. He has a like a separate girlfriend outside of the show. okay. He in the after interview with him he says Michelle Harris: is like probably like the person for him. Yeah, I'm sure he treats her Mat: Yeah, I'm sure he treats her real well. Michelle Harris: very well. Yeah. And then, a few of the girls did, you know, bring some lightheartedness to it. My issue with the reunion was it was all negative and I'm like there are like there are times where it's like, let's throw in like a laugh or two. Like show me s show me something funny that happened. And it's no. Not a laugh. We did get some more background on the Sammy drama when she like laughed at Juliana and then Juliana got pissed at her. Mat: like let's throw in like a laugh or two. Like show me show me something funny that happened. Right, right. No. Not a lot of it. Michelle Harris: Sammy was like I wasn't I truly wasn't laughing at Juliana. She was like, I was laughing at the camera woman behind the camera. I don't remember. so when Juliana when Sammy got sent home mommy. Mat: Sammy was like, I wasn't I truly wasn't laughing at Juliana. She was like, I was laughing at the camera woman behind the camera. I don't remember. so when Juliana when Sammy got sent home. Okay. Mommy. Mommy, yeah. Got sent home. It was because all the girls basically told Harry that she was the the like drama filled person. yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep. I remember that. Juliana started that narrative. Yeah. Because she sat down backwards on a chair and like started giggling. Yeah. Julia turn turned around and was Michelle Harris: got sent home, it was because all the girls basically told Harry that she was the the like drama filled person causing drama in house. Because Juliana started that narrative because she sat down backwards on a chair and like started giggling and then Julia turn turned around and was like, What the fuck is wrong with you? Why are you laughing? And she's like, I didn't even hear what you said. I wasn't laughing at you. She's like, Yeah the fuck right, you're so immature and like started all the shit and like went and tattled to Harry about all this and then Harry went downstairs and talked with a group of girls. Come Mat: What the fuck is wrong with you? Why are you laughing? And she's like, I didn't even hear what you said. I wasn't laughing at you. She's like, Yeah, the fuck right, you're so immature and like started all this shit and like went and tattled to Harry about Yeah, yeah. Come to find out, Sammy's Michelle Harris: To find out, Sammy's like, I was laughing at a camera woman and I couldn't break fourth wall. And she was like, and like, she's like, I posted a TikTok about it, and like that production person like Mat: like, I was laughing at a camera woman and I couldn't break the call And she was like and like she's like I posted a TikTok about it and that production person like Michelle Harris: commented and she's like, I know exactly what you were laughing at. So, like, it's some of these things, and then the one girl that basically said Juliana was off her rockers Mat: Comment and she's like, I know exactly what you're okay. That's funny. Yeah, and the one girl that basically said Juliana was rod. Michelle Harris: when she got eliminated. I apologize, I don't remember her name, but she was seemed like really with it, and the three friends really liked her. Yeah, she was like, There was one night that wasn't shown on camera where Juliana was literally. Mat: Don't remember her name, but she was seemed like really with it, and the three friends really liked her. Yeah. She was like, There was one night that wasn't shown on camera where Juliana was literally Michelle Harris: slamming doors, screaming, yelling. She was like she was like I went and like hid like in my bed 'cause I'm like I was kinda terrified and then the next morning woke up and like everything was fine. Yeah, and she was like she was literally off her rockers. Mat: slamming doors, screaming, yelling. my god. She was like, I went and like hid like in my bed 'cause I'm like I was kinda terrified, and then the next morning we woke and like everything was fine. Back to normal. Yeah. She was literally off the rock. my. Okay. Interesting. So she was like, Yeah, girl girl needed to. Michelle Harris: And so she was like, Yeah, girl girl needed to go. Like and so there is so much that they didn't show. But I do wish we got some lightheartedness. We did hear from Emma who was part of the final five with Abby. And I guess like she was like, you know, me and Harry have gotten close after the show, but more of in like a sibling way than like a like relationship way. And she's like, I'll be the first one to tell him he needs to be neutered and like not have children because he's ridiculous. She's like, But I did like after Mat: And so there is so much that they didn't show. But I do wish we got some lightheartedness. We did hear from Emma, who was part of the final five with Abby. And I guess like she was like, you know, me and Harry have gotten close after the show, but more of them like a sibling way than like a like relationship way. Yeah. And she's like, I'll be the first one to tell him he needs to be neutered and like not have children because it's religious. She's like, But I did like after Michelle Harris: After he like broke up Mat: he like broke up Michelle Harris: with me and Abby that day, like and it was down to the final three. She's like, I got to the airport and when I turned on the phone, the first message I got was from Harry, and it was like an AI generated video of the three of them. And he's like, Abby, Emma, I'm so sorry I broke up with you. And she was like, It was actually really hilarious. I'm like, Okay, at least there was some lightheartedness here and there, but yeah. So Mat: Me and Abby that day, like and it was down to the final three. She's like, I got to the airport and when I turned on the phone, the first message I got was from Harry and it like an AI generated video of the three of them. And he's like, Abby, Emma, I'm so sorry I broke up with you and she was like, It was actually really hurt. I'm like, Okay, at least there was some light heartedness here or there, but jeez. Okay. So Michelle Harris: yeah, I just overall, I mean the friends came out and Mat: Came out and Georgia Michelle Harris: Georgia was the only one that I because that was like Mat: was the only one that I said was like a lot of things should have gone differently. Yeah. And I'm close with a lot of the girls. I really like a lot of the girls, but like, yeah, this this should have been done. There's some things that were said I don't agree with, but like she's very and then Sonny was like, You guys know what you got yourself into. You were all doing out of Harry him, you were all doing this like why are you upset about it? Get over. Michelle Harris: A lot of things should have gone differently. I'm not gonna sit here and bash Harry but and I'm close with a lot of the girls. I really like a lot of the girls, but like, yeah, this this should have been done. There's some things that were said I don't agree with, but like she was very and then Sonny was like, You guys know what you got yourself into. You were all making out with her y him, you were all doing this, Y, and Z. Like, why are you upset about it? Get over and it's like, Whoa, dude, like that was kind of uncalled for like so Mat: Whoa dude, like that Yeah, yeah. So yeah. Alright then. By that point I'm like I could never see Harry on my screen again or any sort of attention like this. Yeah. He has a lot of work that he needs to do himself. And I've heard feedback about that from other people that have seen him on those other shows. Right, right. Michelle Harris: Yeah. It was just a lot about that point I'm like I could never see Harry on my screen again or give him any sort of attention like this. I think he has a lot of work that he needs to do on himself. And I've heard feedback about that from other people that have seen him on those other shows. Mat: Which is why some of my friends were like, I'm not gonna Michelle Harris: Which is why some of my friends were like, I'm not gonna watch this because I I can't like i I can't. Yeah. And so I know that he is doing a show with Demi that's coming out. No, thank you. I don't think we're covering it, guys. I might watch here and there just to kinda like know what's going on in that universe because it all seems to cross one another. I know. I I yeah, I can't. So we'll see. Speaking of Demi. Mat: Yeah. I can't like it I can't. Yeah. And so I know that he is doing a show with Demi. god. No, thank you. I don't think covering watch here and there just to kinda like know what's going on in that universe because it all seems to cross one another. You're two favorite people. I know. I I yeah, I can't. So we'll see. Speaking of Demie, we will get back to Dad talk at the villa next week. Again, apologize that we didn't do two this week. It's just a lot going on right now. So yeah, we'll play work related kind of everything in between. Yeah, so we'll do Michelle Harris: At the villa next Thursday. Again, apologize that we didn't do two this week. It's just a lot going on right now. Personally, work related, kind of everything in between. So So we'll do Mat: dad talk at the villa part two next Thursday. And then we'll start up season four of Secret Lives and Mormon Wives the following week. We'll get through that and then we'll get through that. Michelle Harris: And then we'll start up season four of Cedar. Yeah. Yeah. We'll get through that. And then we'll get through that. I hear there's a lot Mat: I hear there's a lot of drama nowadays with Taylor announced this week she's not returning with Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. So maybe Mikaela will come back. We know that Linus has been out for a while. Yeah. at this point it Michelle Harris: Well, Taylor announced this week she's not returning to Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. So maybe Michaela will come back. We know that Whitney is has been out for a while now. at this point it it seems like this where I don't wanna give more attention to something that's so toxic and negative. And I'm not trying to feed into that narrative, but Mat: It seems like this where I don't wanna give more attention to something that's so toxic and negative and I'm not trying to feed into that narrative, but Michelle Harris: With Taylor either failing a drug test, her custody battles, you know, she's online attacking all the other girls, she's online attacking fans that are posting about her. I think a lot of some help. It just is like I'm ready for something fresh. Yeah. And not so heavy. Yeah, yeah. Mat: Taylor either failing a drug test, her custody battles, Yeah, it's a lot. Online attacking all the other girls, she's online attacking fans that are posting about Yeah, I think a lot of them need some help, probably. Yeah. And not so heavy. Yeah, yeah. And I was Michelle Harris: And I was hoping not let's marry Harry while maybe he's a terrible person, like maybe some of the girls were in it kinda Mat: not let's marry Harry while maybe maybe some of the girls were in it Michelle Harris: like Emma and Abby were like Abby's like, I fucked him, like I whatever. Like, you know, like a little bit more lighthearted, I get that it ends in marriage, so they had to take it a little bit more seriously. But yeah, it was just it I just wanna laugh at something. Mat: Yeah. I just wanna laugh at something. Michelle Harris: I just wanna be like, Why the hell did they do that? Mat: I was I was laughing, you're dancing with the stars last week when your boy Connor got eliminated on the first night. FYI. Michelle Harris: Hey, hey. He got out there and did his best. And that's all we can ask him. For the cha-cha. Mat: That was his best. Michelle Harris: It's not the first time he's been on Dancing with the Stars. And he did really good. That's awful. Mat: I don't know shit about dancing, but that looked awful. Michelle Harris: He did a contemporary with Whitney last year as h her her dedication night. And he did good. So I thought maybe they should have s p A picked a different song that was terrible. B Mat: Her dedication rate and he did good. So I thought maybe they should have s p A picked a different song that was terrible. Michelle Harris: They should have started off a maybe a little bit more softer with him. He can't he has no hip muscles. He can't move his hips. That's where he went wrong. It looked it looked it looked awkward because he can't move his hips. I do think that he got out and tried his best. Mat: B they should have started off maybe a little bit more softer with him. Okay. He can't he has no hip muscles. He can't move his hips. That's where he went wrong. He can't he can't dance. It looked awkward. Yeah, yeah. I just think maybe the direction different. Alright, Michelle Harris: I just think maybe the direction could have been different. Mat: anyway, we're we're going on here about dad talk, secret lives. Now we're going on about dancing with the stars. Let's wrap this up. that's the end of Let's Marry Harry. Yes. No more Harry Michelle Harris: But let's go more or v going on about dancing with the song. I know. Let's wrap this up. Okay. That's the end of Let's Very Harry. Yes. No more hairy. Mat: Jowsey on reality hits Matt moving forward. Unless it's mentioned. Michelle Harris: Unless it's mentioned on a one off from something else. Yeah. No no dedicated shows including him. Mat: Yeah, we're not giving Harry any more time. who knows? Maybe there'll be a spinoff with one of the girls or something. Just don't end it in marriage and just pass off it. We'll see what happens. Yeah, Michelle Harris: Just don't end it in marriage and don't have people dress up and s we'll see what happens. Don't live in the house with them either. Like Mat: it was a lot. Well, anyway. Thanks for listening to everybody. Be sure to follow us on Instagram at reality hits mat. It's reality hits Michelle Harris: Thanks for listening to everybody. Be sure to follow us on Instagram at reality hitsmat. Mat: A T just one T Matt. Same on TikTok, Reality Hits Matt. wanna drop us a line, shoot us an email, is there something else maybe you want us to cover or talk about, email us, realityhitsmat at gmail dot com. And thanks for listening. Thank you. Michelle Harris: out email us realityhitsmat at gmail dot com and thanks for listening. Thank you.