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A Few Good Minutes: Bouncing Back in Week 8 vs. Colts · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to football and a few good minutes. I'm
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Speaker 1: Brian Sexton.
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Speaker 2: Head coach Liam Cohen spoke for most of us earlier
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Speaker 2: this week when he revealed he couldn't sleep on the
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Speaker 2: Sunday night of the bye weekend because he was so
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Speaker 2: excited to get back to work with his team.
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Speaker 1: Me too.
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Speaker 2: 33 years in this game and I can't wait for
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Speaker 2: Sunday and the Jaguars first home game in 35 days
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Speaker 2: and the only home game until November 29th when they
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Speaker 2: host the Titans a span of 63 days. The schedule,
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Speaker 2: which of course isn't ideal, was set up to accommodate
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Speaker 2: the construction team working to keep the Stadium of the
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Speaker 2: Future on target for an August 2028 opening. And listen,
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Speaker 2: if you have the chance to drive through downtown Jacksonville,
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Speaker 2: you absolutely should. It's a fun project to follow. And
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Speaker 2: at that end, I caught up with Jaguars president Mark
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Speaker 2: Lamping for an update. I like to think of Jaguars
1:03
Speaker 2: owner Shad Khan as the coach of the franchise, the
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Speaker 2: man with a game plan and the vision for how
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Speaker 2: to build the Jaguars' long-term future in Jacksonville. Lamping then
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Speaker 2: has been his quarterback for almost 15 years, guiding the
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Speaker 2: franchise from a struggling, small-market, lower-revenue team to a solid,
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Speaker 2: stable organization. And his biggest win is the Stadium of
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Speaker 2: the Future, which will finally settle the issue of the Jaguars'
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Speaker 2: future in Jacksonville, once and for all. I asked Mark
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Speaker 2: what fans, who haven't been in the building for five weeks,
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Speaker 2: will notice when they arrive on Sunday.
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Speaker 3: I think the experience for our fans will be very
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Speaker 3: similar to what it was like the last home game.
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Speaker 3: The only difference will be is they will see how
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Speaker 3: much progress has been made over the last 30 days.
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Speaker 1: What will people see when they get back here?
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Speaker 3: More and more steel that has been erected. A huge
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Speaker 3: piece of the roof in the north end zone was
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Speaker 3: lifted into place. It's about a million pound piece of
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Speaker 3: steel as wide as a football field. It took about
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Speaker 3: 72 hours to put into place and then You'll see
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Speaker 3: that a lot of the concourses, the wider concourses are
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Speaker 3: now in place. They're not fully operational, but you'll be
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Speaker 3: able to see them.
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Speaker 4: And as you come.
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Speaker 3: Closer to the stadium, you'll be able to see that
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Speaker 3: the structure of the roof continues to make its way
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Speaker 3: from the north to the south.
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Speaker 2: You talked in the spring about how valuable this window,
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Speaker 2: this donut in the schedule was going to be. And
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Speaker 2: then you've got three more weeks on the backside of
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Speaker 2: this game. Looking back at it, Incredibly valuable to get
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Speaker 2: everything done.
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Speaker 1: Are you on schedule?
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Speaker 5: Oh, it's awesome.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're on schedule.
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Speaker 6: That's for sure.
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Speaker 3: You know, kudos to the construction team and our operations team.
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Speaker 3: They took full advantage of the 30 days. And, you know,
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Speaker 3: we've pretty much completed the transition, getting ready for the
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Speaker 3: game on Sunday. You know, the construction activity will stop
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Speaker 3: sometime on Friday. But, you know, the stadium's very close
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Speaker 3: to being ready as we... as we sit here today.
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Speaker 2: You've done this in St. Louis and New York, maybe
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Speaker 2: nothing quite like this. How big a logistical challenge is it,
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Speaker 2: and how tight do you have to be?
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Speaker 3: Well, this is by far the most complex.
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Speaker 6: St.
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Speaker 3: Louis was a little complicated because we were building the
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Speaker 3: new ballpark right next to the old ballpark, and actually
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Speaker 3: we had to tear down some of the old ballpark
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Speaker 3: at the end of one season and then have the
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Speaker 3: new ballpark open the next spring. So that was a
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Speaker 3: lot of logistical issues, but it was concentrated over about
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Speaker 3: a six-month period Here, we started construction almost.
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Speaker 4: Two years ago.
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Speaker 3: So we're into our second full season of playing games
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Speaker 3: in a stadium that's under construction. The first year, 2025,
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Speaker 3: wasn't quite as bad because most of the work was
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Speaker 3: being done outside. This year has been incredibly more complex,
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Speaker 3: the closing of the upper deck. And we couldn't be
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Speaker 3: more thankful to our fans for the patience they've shown
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Speaker 3: as as they've gone through this process with us.
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Speaker 2: What kind of feedback have you gotten from people about
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Speaker 2: the experience? Because it appears like you've got that down pat.
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Speaker 4: Well, it's been good.
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Speaker 3: I think there was a real conscious effort to make
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Speaker 3: this year different than prior years. Obviously, the stadium looks different.
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Speaker 3: The game presentation is different this year. We've probably gotten
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Speaker 3: more comments on that. And again, I give a lot
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Speaker 3: of credit to Liam and James and Tony for working
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Speaker 3: with us to make sure that everything that we are
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Speaker 3: doing with our game presentation helps make 42,500 people sound
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Speaker 3: like 68,000 people. And the response has been really good.
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Speaker 3: And again, I give a lot of credit to Chad
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Speaker 3: and PCAV and Carlos and the entire production team for
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Speaker 3: all the great work they've done.
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Speaker 2: From what I hear, it sounds like the rest of
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Speaker 2: the way the stadium is going to be full. Do
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Speaker 2: you get a sense that people are excited to be
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Speaker 2: here for one of the last four games? I mean,
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Speaker 2: I don't want to make this a venerable old building,
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Speaker 2: but there's a lot of memories here.
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Speaker 3: Well, there are a ton of memories. And those memories,
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Speaker 3: we have to remind ourselves, actually predate the Jaguars as well.
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Speaker 3: So there have been significant events happening in this stadium
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Speaker 3: that predate the mid-90s. But it is the last time
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Speaker 3: you'll be able to see this stadium in its current configuration.
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Speaker 3: It won't look anything like the old stadium when we
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Speaker 3: get to 2028. You know, the response from our fans
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Speaker 3: has been really good. You know, one thing we have
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Speaker 3: realized is, you know, stop trying to fight Mother Nature.
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Speaker 3: You know, when we have our home opener each year,
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Speaker 3: it's going to be incredibly hot and fans aren't necessarily
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Speaker 3: going to be waiting in line to go sit and
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Speaker 3: get boiled in the sun. So fortunately, we won't have
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Speaker 3: another opening day here without shade on all the seats.
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Speaker 3: And that's probably the thing we're looking forward to the most.
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Speaker 2: I've been here for some of those where it feels
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Speaker 2: like you're standing on the surface of the sun because
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Speaker 2: people have brought it up. And this is a really
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Speaker 2: good football team. Would you host the AFC Championship game
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Speaker 2: in this stadium?
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Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely.
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Speaker 4: No, yeah, for sure.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's not unprecedented that teams play in a
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Speaker 3: stadium that temporarily.
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Speaker 6: Has lower capacity.
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Speaker 3: Now, has that team advanced to the AFC Championship? I
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Speaker 3: don't think it has, but it wasn't that long ago
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Speaker 3: when the San Diego Chargers were making their transition to
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Speaker 3: Los Angeles. They played at the Home Depot Center. I
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Speaker 3: think the capacity for that stadium was just over 30,000.
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Speaker 3: And had they advanced to the AFC Championship? No, of
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Speaker 3: course we'll have the AFC Championship game here in Jacksonville.
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Speaker 4: There'd be no place else to have it. This is
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Speaker 4: our home field.
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Speaker 3: This year, next year, because of the reality of putting
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Speaker 3: the roof in place, we can't play here, but we'll
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Speaker 3: be right back in 2028.
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Speaker 2: I guess just as a final thought, once the season
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Speaker 2: is over, whenever that's over, and you turn it over
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Speaker 2: to the construction team completely, how soon will people see
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Speaker 2: dramatic changes?
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Speaker 3: Well, after the season ends, probably within 30 days, they'll
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Speaker 3: see the structure of the roof be complete. They'll begin
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Speaker 3: seeing the concourses opening. But then other than the roof itself,
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Speaker 3: unless you're inside the building, you really won't be able
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Speaker 3: to see the transformation until we unveil it in 2028.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's exciting.
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Speaker 2: As someone who's been here for a long time and
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Speaker 2: as a lot of people who are listening know, to
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Speaker 2: have this cement the future of the Jaguars in Jacksonville
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Speaker 2: is pivotal.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for everything.
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Speaker 4: Oh, thank you.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I don't think there was a
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Speaker 3: moment that any one of us were not 100% focused
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Speaker 3: on finding a solution that guarantees NFL football here in
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Speaker 3: Northeast Florida for generations to come. And just as important,
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Speaker 3: allows those who are like us and you that are
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Speaker 3: blessed to live here, we can continue to live here.
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Speaker 6: That's a great thing.
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Speaker 2: When we last saw the Jaguars' defense, it was struggling
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Speaker 2: with the Houston Texans at Wembley Stadium. A good unit
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Speaker 2: which hadn't allowed more than 20 points in 12 games
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Speaker 2: gave up 34, including the game-winning drive with less than
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Speaker 2: two minutes to play. They had a bad day in London,
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Speaker 2: and watching them on the practice field, it's clear they
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Speaker 2: feel as if they played well below their standard. If
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Speaker 2: you were waiting for a defender in the locker room
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Speaker 2: after practice, you're going to wait a while this week.
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Speaker 2: They were out on the grass getting extra work in.
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Speaker 2: I caught up with defensive coordinator Anthony Campanile this week.
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Speaker 2: He's one of the good ones. Enjoy him while we
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Speaker 2: have him. He's going to be a head coach in
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Speaker 2: this league, and I think he'll be very successful for
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Speaker 2: a very long time. Is two weeks enough time to
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Speaker 2: put what didn't work well for you last time away?
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Speaker 2: Do you grind on it? Do you want your guys
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Speaker 2: to grind on what happened two weeks ago?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think you're always looking at every game, whatever
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Speaker 7: you didn't do well, win or lose, trying to get
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Speaker 7: things correct to get things fixed. And that's part of
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Speaker 7: the process in every season. You know, it's a long season.
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Speaker 7: So certainly things on my end that I want to
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Speaker 7: get fixed from the other day. And I've spent, you know,
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Speaker 7: pretty much I spent quite a bit of time, uh,
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Speaker 7: making sure that we're cleaning some of those things up. And,
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Speaker 7: you know, and obviously now I've moved on to this
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Speaker 7: next game with Indianapolis and that week in between kind
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Speaker 7: of gives you a chance to go back and look
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Speaker 7: at everything from the first six weeks, you know, what
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Speaker 7: was good, what wasn't good, where you had to improve, um,
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Speaker 7: and where you want to continue to excel.
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Speaker 8: And I think it was a good week for us.
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Speaker 2: Do you try to read your team and see where
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Speaker 2: they're at? Or is it, do you just wait till
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Speaker 2: you get on the practice field and let them play?
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Speaker 8: No, I mean, I think there's gotta be a standard for,
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Speaker 8: for where you gotta be at.
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Speaker 7: Um, I think the standard has got to be that
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Speaker 7: everybody's got to do their job and not only do
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Speaker 7: their job, but do it well. And that's got to
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Speaker 7: be the standard for everybody to keep things in the
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Speaker 7: direction we want them to go. So, yeah, for us,
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Speaker 7: I mean, our players have been great that way. You know,
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Speaker 7: they've come in pretty motivated. Obviously, nobody's happy about the
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Speaker 7: result we got in our second game in London. And
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Speaker 7: we've all worked pretty damn hard to get it the
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Speaker 7: way we want.
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Speaker 8: It to go.
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Speaker 2: Run defense has been so good all season long. Today
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Speaker 2: you get a real test with Jonathan Taylor, who, Coach,
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Speaker 2: I think is one of the best backs in the league.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, elite player.
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Speaker 7: You got to tackle as a team against this guy.
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Speaker 7: You know, he's really never down. And he has a
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Speaker 7: ton of success when there's one man at the ball.
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Speaker 7: So we got to do a great job of getting
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Speaker 7: all blocks in order to run to the ball. But
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Speaker 7: you have to have great eye discipline. And you got
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Speaker 7: to play with great pad level because he's got great
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Speaker 7: change of direction. And guys that have great change of
10:18
Speaker 7: direction force you to play with good pad level. If
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Speaker 7: you're up high, it's going to be hard to change
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Speaker 7: direction yourself. So that's important for us today.
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Speaker 1: Most important team sport in the world. I get it.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to put too much on one guy,
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Speaker 2: but can you put into words what Devon Hamilton means
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Speaker 2: for your run defense? Because every time you turn the
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Speaker 2: tape on, you see him wrecking offensive lines.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, he's, Deham really does an unbelievable job.
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Speaker 7: And I know there's kind of a, you know, an
10:42
Speaker 7: old term there where everybody talks about two gapping and
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Speaker 7: two gapping isn't necessarily, hey, I play this gap and
10:48
Speaker 7: jump back in the next gap. He certainly does his
10:50
Speaker 7: fair share of that, playing primary to secondary. Does not
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Speaker 7: really let the ball go in his primary gap. But really,
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Speaker 7: that comes from, honestly, great discipline. He's got great eye discipline.
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Speaker 7: He does a great job with his hands going from
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Speaker 7: ground to man, playing his primary gap.
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Speaker 8: And then in our room, that's not enough.
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Speaker 7: And he really believes in that and prides himself on that,
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Speaker 7: being able to get back to his secondary gap and
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Speaker 7: make a play. So even if he's not doing that,
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Speaker 7: he's pressing somebody's body into a frontside gap. So- he's
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Speaker 7: creating another defensive player for us by doing that.
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Speaker 2: Camp, the other guy that jumps off the tape is 51,
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Speaker 2: and Ventrell Miller and the way that he plays with
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Speaker 2: just such ferocity. When did you see that in him?
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Speaker 2: Was it last season, or did it come out this
11:31
Speaker 2: season when it was clear he was competing for the
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Speaker 2: starting job?
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Speaker 7: It's going to be a weird answer, but when he
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Speaker 7: was in college, when I was with the Dolphins, he
11:38
Speaker 7: was coming out, I want to say my last year
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Speaker 7: at the Dolphins, and he was a guy who I
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Speaker 7: really just admired the way he played.
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Speaker 8: I thought he was As physical a guy as I had.
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Speaker 7: Seen, he just got great pop, great snap. That's what
11:56
Speaker 7: makes him a great hitter and a great tackler, and
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Speaker 7: that's really what's enabled him to play off of blocks
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Speaker 7: and do some great things, even in the pass rush
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Speaker 7: for us this year.
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Speaker 8: So, yeah, Ventrell, he's been steady Eddie.
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Speaker 7: He did a great job for us last year, and
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Speaker 7: he's just been super physical and really on it. He's
12:14
Speaker 7: been on the screws every day. He cares about it.
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Speaker 7: He studies it. He works hard at it. um so
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Speaker 7: i love coaching the guy and appreciate him.
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Speaker 2: Pressure versus sacks are you getting the pressure that you
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Speaker 2: need and obviously sacks are like turnovers right they come
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Speaker 2: when you when the effort's there yeah.
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Speaker 7: There's always uh there's always a lot of room like
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Speaker 7: we've spent a bunch of time on that obviously even
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Speaker 7: over the last year and a half um that's somewhere
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Speaker 7: where i got to be better uh and we want
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Speaker 7: obviously more results in that regard so uh we got
12:41
Speaker 7: we've done a good job like you said getting to
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Speaker 7: the qb we got to get them on the ground
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Speaker 7: and we got to finish some of those rushes and
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Speaker 7: That's as cliche as it sounds, it's rushing coverage together.
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Speaker 8: So if we can get on people, you.
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Speaker 7: Know, tighten those spaces on the second and third level
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Speaker 7: down the field, we'll be able to finish some of those.
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Speaker 7: And obviously when the ball is coming out quick, it's
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Speaker 7: a lot harder to get to them. So we got
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Speaker 7: to do a good job not letting the ball come
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Speaker 7: out quick.
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Speaker 1: Best of luck today, coach. Go get them.
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Speaker 8: Thanks so much. Appreciate it.
13:08
Speaker 2: Losing left tackle Anton Harrison against the Eagles at Tottenham
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Speaker 2: was a blow to the Jaguars offensive line. Harrison was
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Speaker 2: playing good ball in his first season on the left
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Speaker 2: side of the line and starting to look like the
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Speaker 2: guy the Jaguars drafted in the first round in 2023
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Speaker 2: to protect quarterback Trevor Lawrence's blind side. Walker Little stepped
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Speaker 2: in and played as well as he has since the
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Speaker 2: Jaguars drafted him in the second round in 2021, thinking
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Speaker 2: he would be the left tackle of the future. Jaguars
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Speaker 2: Executive Vice President Tony Buscelli throws compliments around like manhole covers,
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Speaker 2: especially to offensive linemen, and in particular to left tackles.
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Speaker 2: but he told me he was impressed with the way
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Speaker 2: that Little rose to the occasion. And so instead of
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Speaker 2: being worried about the loss of an important player at
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Speaker 2: a premium position, the Jaguars feel good about their offensive line,
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Speaker 2: which wouldn't be the case for most NFL teams losing
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Speaker 2: the left tackle. Our Kai Stevens grabbed offensive line coach
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Speaker 2: Sean Surrett after practice this week to get his take
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Speaker 2: on that group.
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Speaker 9: All right, I'm joined by offensive line coach Sean Surrett.
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Speaker 9: After the bye week, the team's preparing for the Colts
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Speaker 9: this week. I know you closed out practice here with
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Speaker 9: fumble recoveries. You're not a big fan of the big
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Speaker 9: man scooping runs here?
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Speaker 5: No, we want to end every play with the ball
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Speaker 5: in our hands. So in my mind, if we see
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Speaker 5: one on the ground, we want to get on top
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Speaker 5: of it and ensure ourselves another play with it.
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Speaker 9: Seems like the wise way to go, I understand.
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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes.
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Speaker 9: Some unfortunate bi-week news. Obviously, Anton Harrison had that knee
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Speaker 9: injury while the team was in London, and then after
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Speaker 9: surgery now, we know he's going to be out for
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Speaker 9: the rest of the year. Can you just talk about
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Speaker 9: kind of that loss, but also an opportunity here and
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Speaker 9: what you guys have seen so far in Walker Little?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, after the London game, I go into the training
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Speaker 5: room to see Anton. I was really sad because this
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Speaker 5: kid has come so far, and he's worked so hard
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Speaker 5: to get to where he was at, and to have
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Speaker 5: a setback like that was just, it's devastating, you know,
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Speaker 5: and it's hard to replace like you're saying, but you know,
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Speaker 5: we have that next man up mentality, which we have
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Speaker 5: to have.
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Speaker 8: And Anton's already on to the next.
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Speaker 5: Phase, man. He's, he's got a, he's got a goal
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Speaker 5: he's got to get to get back here. And that's
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Speaker 5: what he's going to fight and get to.
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Speaker 9: What have you guys seen? We've seen one game out
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Speaker 9: of Walker little, but obviously you guys love having that versatility.
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Speaker 9: He's been able to be your swing tackle and step
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Speaker 9: in at different times. And, and what have you seen
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Speaker 9: from him so far? And what do you expect to
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Speaker 9: see from him going forward?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Walker's done this before. That's the great thing. He's
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Speaker 5: come in at guard for us. He's come in at
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Speaker 5: tackle for us. He's the type of guy that won't
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Speaker 5: blink an eye. He's just going to get better with
15:37
Speaker 5: every rep he takes.
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Speaker 9: How would you assess what Colvin Landon's been able to do?
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Speaker 9: I think lost in the shuffle a little bit. He
15:44
Speaker 9: was rehabbing right up until the season began. He wasn't
15:47
Speaker 9: even really starting to deal with tackling until the season started.
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Speaker 9: So now two months in, do you feel like he's
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Speaker 9: getting his legs under him and back to where you.
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Speaker 2: Expect him to be?
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Speaker 5: Yes, 100 percent. And you can see it in his game.
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Speaker 5: You really can on the film. And, you know, he's
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Speaker 5: moving a lot better, you know, and, you know, he fought.
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Speaker 5: You know, we wasn't expecting him to come back as
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Speaker 5: fast as he did. He did a heck of a
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Speaker 5: job with that. And that's the thing. He set the
16:07
Speaker 5: bar now for Anton. That's what we joke with Anton about. Like,
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Speaker 5: you've got a bar now because, you know, Cole sat there.
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Speaker 5: He's done it now. And we expect you to do
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Speaker 5: the same thing, you know. So he's got to go
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Speaker 5: in and compete like that, just like Cole did.
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Speaker 9: I know you guys are kind of always that next
16:20
Speaker 9: man up thing, but now with Walker coming in and
16:23
Speaker 9: being the starting left tackles, it's an opportunity for some
16:25
Speaker 9: of the younger guys. I know you're always pushing them,
16:27
Speaker 9: but to now always be ready.
16:29
Speaker 5: Yeah, they know it. They have to be prepared, and
16:31
Speaker 5: that's what's unique about the positioning because they won't get
16:34
Speaker 5: these game reps that we have out here that we're
16:37
Speaker 5: preparing these guys for, and then they have to be
16:39
Speaker 5: able to go in and do these plays. It's just
16:41
Speaker 5: so funny, you know. They're actually simulating the other team's
16:44
Speaker 5: plays all week. And then on Friday, they may get
16:47
Speaker 5: one or two reps. And then we ask them on
16:49
Speaker 5: Sunday to go out and compete. You know, so they
16:51
Speaker 5: do a lot outside the building.
16:53
Speaker 8: As you know.
16:54
Speaker 9: The run game has been impressive. I know dealing with
16:57
Speaker 9: some of the penalties, obviously frustrating for you guys. Does
17:00
Speaker 9: it feel like you guys are almost like right there,
17:02
Speaker 9: like with getting those kind of break long runs with
17:05
Speaker 9: what Tootin's been able to do?
17:07
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's one of those deals that we keep chipping
17:09
Speaker 5: away at it. They've done a great job, the running
17:12
Speaker 5: backs has, and even the receivers going in blocking. And
17:16
Speaker 5: they all know this. It takes all 11 of us.
17:18
Speaker 4: It really does.
17:19
Speaker 5: It takes all 11. If one guy's not going on
17:22
Speaker 5: the 11, then it's not going to work, and they
17:24
Speaker 5: understand that. And just like you just said, I mean, yeah,
17:26
Speaker 5: it's something we're striving for. It's something that Coach Cohen's
17:29
Speaker 5: put an emphasis on, and we're going to continue to
17:31
Speaker 5: get better at it.
17:33
Speaker 9: In terms of getting prepped for the Colts, they have
17:35
Speaker 9: a lot of changes going on with their team, players
17:38
Speaker 9: going in and out. Do you focus more on yourselves
17:40
Speaker 9: on a week like that? I know you always game
17:42
Speaker 9: plan for the opponent, but when you don't necessarily know
17:44
Speaker 9: the player personnel, it's going to be out there.
17:46
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, to be honest with you, we really do.
17:49
Speaker 5: Each week, it's all about us.
17:51
Speaker 4: It really is.
17:52
Speaker 5: But you also have to get them ready for the
17:54
Speaker 5: scheme part. And at the end of the day, we're
17:56
Speaker 5: not done. These are all NFL players. We're going to
17:58
Speaker 5: get their best shot come Sunday, and we've got to
18:00
Speaker 5: be ready for it.
18:01
Speaker 9: Thanks, Coach. Good luck.
18:02
Speaker 5: Thank you.
18:03
Speaker 6: Have a good day.
18:08
Speaker 2: Fred Taylor follows the Jaguars closely. He obviously follows the
18:12
Speaker 2: entire league for the pivot, his wildly successful podcasting effort.
18:16
Speaker 2: And of course, he works with us here in the
18:18
Speaker 2: Jaguars broadcasting universe. We connected this week to talk about
18:21
Speaker 2: a 4-2 team that won without playing last week, thanks
18:25
Speaker 2: to the New York Giants, Cleveland Browns, and Minnesota Vikings.
18:28
Speaker 2: In case you were tuned out on the bye week,
18:30
Speaker 2: The Vikings beat the Colts, the Browns beat the Titans,
18:33
Speaker 2: and the Giants gave the Jaguars a boost in the
18:35
Speaker 2: AFC South standings when they topped the Texans in overtime.
18:39
Speaker 2: It's always fun to talk ball with Fred, who still
18:41
Speaker 2: approaches the Jaguars as if they're his team, which they
18:44
Speaker 2: kind of are.
18:45
Speaker 1: His name is on the wall, after all.
18:47
Speaker 2: Like Liam, he's ready to get back to football and
18:50
Speaker 2: believes this team is ready to rise to the challenge
18:53
Speaker 2: of being the frontrunner in the AFC South.
19:00
Speaker 6: And I think they're ready.
19:01
Speaker 10: You know, they understand that they have a ton of
19:03
Speaker 10: football to go. They've come out of the bye week
19:07
Speaker 10: fairly healthy, with the exception of losing Anton Harrison. But
19:12
Speaker 10: still yet, Brian, here at the forefront of the opportunities
19:16
Speaker 10: that they have is an opportunity to.
19:19
Speaker 6: Widen the gap in the AFC South.
19:21
Speaker 10: You know, even while they were on vacation, somehow their–
19:26
Speaker 10: the AFC South opponents are finding a way to do
19:30
Speaker 10: that for them, right? But the Jaguars have to eventually
19:34
Speaker 10: widen the gap themselves.
19:35
Speaker 6: And it starts here, home Sunday with the Colts.
19:38
Speaker 10: You have one team that's four and two, one team
19:40
Speaker 10: that's two and five, attempted to trade their entire team away.
19:44
Speaker 10: And again, you don't want them to limp in here
19:48
Speaker 10: and even make it a game. So you have to
19:51
Speaker 10: step on their necks when the opportunity presents itself.
19:53
Speaker 2: Fred, I love the fact that you say step on
19:55
Speaker 2: the neck, which you always used to say about the
19:57
Speaker 2: Colts and Mike Dobbs. When we had back in the day,
20:01
Speaker 2: you're the most consistent player performer. Listen, um, I have
20:06
Speaker 2: been saying this week that it's how you win, not
20:08
Speaker 2: who you play. Those guys, Quentin Nelson, one of the
20:12
Speaker 2: best guards I've ever seen. DeForest Buckner, an absolute disruptive
20:17
Speaker 2: force in the middle. Doesn't matter that they're not there.
20:19
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter who they do put in there. This
20:22
Speaker 2: game is about the Jaguars playing to their play style.
20:25
Speaker 2: And to me, that means a physical running game that
20:29
Speaker 2: dictates the tempo. Am I off base?
20:31
Speaker 6: No, you're not off base. I mean, when you just.
20:34
Speaker 10: When you line up on Sunday, obviously you have some
20:37
Speaker 10: guys that are perennial all pros, some guys that are
20:41
Speaker 10: pro bowlers, some guys that are potentially future Hall of
20:44
Speaker 10: Famers out there in terms of their playing ability. Yet
20:50
Speaker 10: you have guys that are hungry and that are also looking.
20:52
Speaker 6: To make a name.
20:54
Speaker 10: You know, the nameless great faces. And, you know, they're
20:59
Speaker 10: going to come out there playing as hard as, anything
21:02
Speaker 10: else because they're having an opportunity. So what the Jags
21:06
Speaker 10: can't do is fall asleep at the wheel. What their
21:10
Speaker 10: assignment is, again, is to stop Jonathan Taylor. That's the assignment.
21:16
Speaker 10: We know what it is. I mean, Daniel Jones isn't
21:18
Speaker 10: having a great season by any stretch of the imagination.
21:22
Speaker 10: When you look at the turnover margin differential, the Jags
21:26
Speaker 10: are plus five, the.
21:27
Speaker 6: Colts are minus nine. That's a 14-point swing.
21:29
Speaker 10: So The Jaguars need to enter this game understanding that
21:35
Speaker 10: this is a great opportunity for us as long as
21:38
Speaker 10: we don't fall asleep at the wheel.
21:40
Speaker 2: Talk about the pass rush. It's been a topic of
21:42
Speaker 2: conversation since opening day. Trayvon Walker and Josh Hines-Allen have
21:47
Speaker 2: a half a sack between them. How concerning is that
21:50
Speaker 2: to you? Understanding, of course, that these two guys are
21:53
Speaker 2: a huge part of one of the NFL's best run defenses.
21:57
Speaker 2: How do they get those numbers or at least get
21:59
Speaker 2: the impact of percentage higher from their defense.
22:04
Speaker 10: It sucks that you can't be great at multiple things,
22:07
Speaker 10: or maybe you can be. You just have to show
22:09
Speaker 10: that you can be. They're great at stopping the run.
22:13
Speaker 10: And sometimes it would seem that the emphasis is that
22:16
Speaker 10: because for a while, everyone said, well, they can't stop
22:20
Speaker 10: the run. But now they've proven and shown that they're
22:22
Speaker 10: great at stopping the run. On the flip side, I
22:25
Speaker 10: truly believe that is one of the things when you
22:30
Speaker 10: go back and look at the game versus the Texans.
22:34
Speaker 10: That's one of the bigger reasons why they didn't come
22:38
Speaker 10: home with a win because they didn't pressure C.J. Stroud
22:41
Speaker 10: or they didn't sack C.J. Stroud a single time. So
22:44
Speaker 10: they understand that they have to get the sacks up
22:47
Speaker 10: a year ago. They were great in the sack category.
22:51
Speaker 10: And this is a great opportunity for them. As I
22:53
Speaker 10: just mentioned, Daniel Jones has not been great in the pocket.
22:58
Speaker 10: Their line hasn't been great in protecting him. And if
23:01
Speaker 10: you get a little pressure on Daniel, he's shown that
23:04
Speaker 10: he's willing to give it away with seven turnovers himself
23:08
Speaker 10: this year, seven interceptions. So pressure will dictate pressure along
23:13
Speaker 10: with stopping Jonathan Taylor.
23:14
Speaker 6: So I would say make them one dimensional. Stop Jonathan
23:17
Speaker 6: Taylor first.
23:19
Speaker 10: Don't give up the explosive plays, which he's very much
23:22
Speaker 10: capable of doing. And once you have him in a bottle,
23:25
Speaker 10: then you have an opportunity to to get after Daniel Jones,
23:28
Speaker 10: create turnovers, give the ball back to the offense, put
23:31
Speaker 10: up some points, walk out of Everbank with a nice
23:33
Speaker 10: win and smiles on everybody's faces.
23:36
Speaker 2: Jack Works have won their last six regular season games
23:39
Speaker 2: in Jacksonville, averaged more than 34 points a game, have
23:44
Speaker 2: won by more than 17 points. I mean, coming home
23:47
Speaker 2: is a really big deal for this football team. And
23:50
Speaker 2: then there's only four games left in this iteration of
23:54
Speaker 2: of Everbank Stadium. And listen, it's not a venerable old
23:57
Speaker 2: place like some stadiums in football once were, but there's
24:01
Speaker 2: memories there, not just for you and for me, but
24:05
Speaker 2: for the fans who will be here. I think the
24:07
Speaker 2: last couple of games in Jacksonville before we're gone for
24:11
Speaker 2: more than a year, I think there's going to be
24:14
Speaker 2: something special there. I think the tickets are almost gone.
24:16
Speaker 2: They're standing room only for all four of them. I
24:18
Speaker 2: think the atmosphere is going to be awesome.
24:21
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, because those are memories you take, especially,
24:24
Speaker 10: you know, people that can remember the last 20-plus years,
24:29
Speaker 10: the last 30 years in the stadium that went from
24:35
Speaker 10: Gator Bowl, well, it's still the Gator Bowl, the soul
24:37
Speaker 10: of the Gator Bowl, the heart of the Gator Bowl
24:40
Speaker 10: is still there, and it will forever be there. You know,
24:43
Speaker 10: as they do the construction in the stadium, Brian, they're
24:46
Speaker 10: leaving the meat, They're leaving the soul, the foundation, and
24:53
Speaker 10: they're just building and adding to it. And I thought
24:55
Speaker 10: that was genius in the planning and just being able
24:59
Speaker 10: to renovate with the old stadium still intact.
25:03
Speaker 6: So it's going to forever be there.
25:05
Speaker 10: And being able to create these memories as it does
25:09
Speaker 10: close out, I think that'll be special for the season
25:13
Speaker 10: ticket holders that will be in the stadium.
25:15
Speaker 6: And it'll not be as special.
25:18
Speaker 10: For those that aren't able to, to make it, but they'll,
25:22
Speaker 10: they'll forever have their memories. I mean, you have so
25:25
Speaker 10: many great games that we've played there, uh, under coach Coughlin.
25:28
Speaker 10: When we first started, you have, you know, it's Gator, Florida,
25:33
Speaker 10: Georgia weekend.
25:35
Speaker 6: Obviously, uh, they're not able to play.
25:37
Speaker 10: There reminds me of 94, uh, and 95 when we
25:41
Speaker 10: weren't able to play because they were actually prepping for
25:44
Speaker 10: the Jaguars. So, um, All of those things are still there.
25:49
Speaker 10: You know, we won't forget it. The stadium will not
25:52
Speaker 10: ever be forgotten. And then we'll be able to start,
25:55
Speaker 10: move forward and create some new memories.
25:58
Speaker 6: And hopefully some of those new.
25:59
Speaker 10: Memories come with, you know, the Sticky Lombardi Trophy.
26:04
Speaker 6: That'll be even more special.
26:05
Speaker 2: Then Jacksonville truly will be the Green Bay of the South.
26:08
Speaker 2: That one horse town where the Jags are the team.
26:12
Speaker 2: With all due respect to all the other teams, the
26:14
Speaker 2: Gators and the Bulldogs, When you win the Super Bowl
26:17
Speaker 2: and you become a title town, anyone who's been to
26:19
Speaker 2: Green Bay understands what that dynamic.
26:21
Speaker 6: Is all about.
26:22
Speaker 2: I have two more for you. How good can Basil
26:25
Speaker 2: Tootin and Chris Rodriguez be? We've seen glimpses of it.
26:28
Speaker 2: We saw them running the ball right through the teeth
26:32
Speaker 2: of that very talented Texans defense. And we just get
26:35
Speaker 2: the thought, Fred, when you watch them, that, man, they're close.
26:40
Speaker 2: And if they get to that next level, it sure
26:43
Speaker 2: seems like they will be a complete offense.
26:46
Speaker 10: Yeah, and I think that's where they're trying to get to, Brian.
26:51
Speaker 10: I believe Basho is averaging somewhere close to, is it
26:56
Speaker 10: 80 yards per game?
26:58
Speaker 6: Over 65, yeah. Over 65, yeah. So he's shown glimpses.
27:04
Speaker 6: Chris Rodriguez is a battering ram.
27:06
Speaker 10: He's shown glimpses. And I think they have a pretty
27:10
Speaker 10: solid one-two punch. that really accommodates what Trevor and the
27:15
Speaker 10: receivers are trying to do in the pass game. So
27:18
Speaker 10: you just have to continue to run the ball effectively,
27:22
Speaker 10: even if you don't see the big explosives just yet.
27:25
Speaker 10: We've seen some, but they've been called back and the
27:30
Speaker 10: potential is there. We just have to be able to
27:33
Speaker 10: marry that up with not getting the penalties at the
27:35
Speaker 10: most inopportune times. And that's been another topic of conversation penalties.
27:41
Speaker 10: So we hope that they're not penalized during those moments
27:46
Speaker 10: when these guys are ripping off big runs, which can
27:49
Speaker 10: put fear in defenses, but we have to make it sustainable.
27:53
Speaker 2: Last thought, Trevor Lawrence. He's playing at such a high level.
27:59
Speaker 2: When we were in London, I watched the Thursday night game.
28:01
Speaker 2: I watched Bo Nix and Sam Darnold. And I thought, man,
28:05
Speaker 2: I think You know, there's the defending Super Bowl champs,
28:07
Speaker 2: and there's the team that played in the AFC title game,
28:09
Speaker 2: and I wouldn't take either of their quarterbacks over Trevor Lawrence.
28:13
Speaker 2: There aren't many quarterbacks who are playing the game right
28:15
Speaker 2: now who appear to be in the spot that he is.
28:18
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, Lamar hasn't played enough, but you'd figure he
28:22
Speaker 2: would be. Patrick Mahomes, I mean, Brock Purdy, and Trevor Lawrence.
28:27
Speaker 2: I mean, can you put into perspective when you watch
28:29
Speaker 2: him play what you're looking at, the level of play
28:33
Speaker 2: that he's performing at?
28:35
Speaker 10: It feels great to be able to say Trevor is
28:37
Speaker 10: playing alongside the elite guys around the league, and he's
28:42
Speaker 10: certainly top five in his output and performance this season.
28:46
Speaker 10: But I think that speaks to the relationship and the
28:51
Speaker 10: growth that he and Liam has in their relationship. Liam,
28:58
Speaker 10: he's come and he's just turned Trevor into a completely
29:00
Speaker 10: different quarterback. I mean, he started with making his mechanics better,
29:05
Speaker 10: showing him how to read defenses and just continue to
29:10
Speaker 10: pound away at getting the ball out quick, making decisive
29:13
Speaker 10: decisions and living with it. And that's led to 14 touchdowns,
29:17
Speaker 10: only four turnovers. So he's making some great decisions with
29:21
Speaker 10: the ball. He's had some opportunities to even pad his
29:25
Speaker 10: stats more and be even more productive. We have to
29:27
Speaker 10: get those guys to catch the balls that he's thrown.
29:32
Speaker 10: And again, on the flip side of that too, Brian,
29:35
Speaker 10: the receivers have stepped up. They've made some great catches
29:39
Speaker 10: into some small windows that Trevor has trusted them on.
29:42
Speaker 10: So I think they're on the same page. So Coach Cohen, Trevor,
29:48
Speaker 10: the receivers, the offense giving them time to be able
29:51
Speaker 10: to stand back there, getting the.
29:53
Speaker 6: Ball out quick.
29:54
Speaker 10: I think all these things are credit to what they've
29:58
Speaker 10: worked at continuously, repetitiously in the offseason. And credit's getting,
30:03
Speaker 10: I mean, I'm sorry, Trevor's getting all of the credit,
30:07
Speaker 10: but it's certainly a unit. But it's so good and
30:10
Speaker 10: fulfilling to be able to say my quarterback, who I
30:14
Speaker 10: root for, is performing in the top five around the NFL.
30:19
Speaker 2: Brad, November is here, that time of the year where
30:22
Speaker 2: the contenders separate from the pretenders and the Jaguars. are
30:26
Speaker 2: a contender. It should be a fun couple of months
30:29
Speaker 2: to finish out the regular season and lead into the playoffs.
30:32
Speaker 2: And it all starts today. Looking forward to seeing you.
30:34
Speaker 6: Yeah, man.
30:35
Speaker 10: I'm looking forward. You know how I feel about this
30:37
Speaker 10: Colts team. So like I said, got to step on
30:40
Speaker 10: their necks. Don't give them no room to breathe. Go
30:42
Speaker 10: get the W.
30:48
Speaker 2: Let's wrap this edition of A Few Good Minutes with
30:50
Speaker 2: a little thing I like to call four downs. I
30:52
Speaker 2: began it in London, needing another segment for the Publix
30:55
Speaker 2: pregame show, and I really like it. It's a mix
30:57
Speaker 2: of football and fun questions, and so far, the guys
31:00
Speaker 2: I've talked to have enjoyed it. This week, it's with
31:03
Speaker 2: defensive back Jordan Lewis. I like him a lot, and
31:06
Speaker 2: he's an important part of what Campanile and company do
31:08
Speaker 2: on the back end of the defense. He's a sage,
31:11
Speaker 2: veteran voice, and having played in Dallas and the circus-like
31:14
Speaker 2: atmosphere in Jerry's world, he brings a calmness to this
31:18
Speaker 2: young group who plays a position where the lights are
31:21
Speaker 2: bright when you're playing good ball and even brighter when
31:24
Speaker 2: you're not. Here's Four Downs with Jordan Lewis.
31:27
Speaker 8: Enjoy.
31:27
Speaker 1: Fourth down, home.
31:33
Speaker 2: First time in 35 days. What does a home crowd
31:35
Speaker 2: mean to this football team?
31:36
Speaker 4: Everything, especially the way we've been playing at home.
31:39
Speaker 11: It means a lot to us to see those guys,
31:41
Speaker 11: see the fans out there, you know, cheering us on
31:43
Speaker 11: and to cheer even on, you know, the defensive side, especially,
31:46
Speaker 11: you know, get that momentum going and the juice for us.
31:49
Speaker 11: It means everything when we get those cheers and, you know,
31:51
Speaker 11: those pick-me-ups. It helps us, you know, with the energy.
31:54
Speaker 11: Even when, you know, the dips and the highs and
31:57
Speaker 11: lows of the game, the crowd keeps us alive.
31:59
Speaker 4: So that helps us a lot, and we're excited to
32:02
Speaker 4: be back home.
32:03
Speaker 1: Third down.
32:04
Speaker 2: Defense has been very consistent all year. Tough day against Houston.
32:07
Speaker 2: How do you guys get back to the level of
32:08
Speaker 2: play that you had the first six weeks?
32:10
Speaker 4: Yeah, not try to do too much.
32:12
Speaker 11: Just do our 111th and understand, you know, what type
32:15
Speaker 11: of defense that we are. We got to make people
32:17
Speaker 11: beat us. And that's what we got to get back to.
32:19
Speaker 11: Not trying to do everybody else's job. You know, just
32:22
Speaker 11: making sure that we do our job well as 111th
32:24
Speaker 11: individuals as a collective on the defense.
32:27
Speaker 4: And, you know, just play to our standards.
32:29
Speaker 6: That's it.
32:29
Speaker 11: Not trying to do too much and be the hero.
32:31
Speaker 11: Just play with each other and trust each other.
32:33
Speaker 1: Second down.
32:35
Speaker 2: You played in this league a long time. Does the
32:36
Speaker 2: trade market all of a sudden seem crazy to you?
32:39
Speaker 2: I mean, all of a sudden, star players are going.
32:41
Speaker 2: There's a frenzy on social media about this trade deadline.
32:44
Speaker 2: What do you as a player think about the whole
32:45
Speaker 2: trade market these days?
32:47
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's a part of the business. Like you said,
32:49
Speaker 11: I've seen a lot of trades. I've seen a lot
32:51
Speaker 11: of different deadlines and, you know, seen different emotions as that,
32:54
Speaker 11: you know, as that relates to, you know, the deadline,
32:58
Speaker 11: trade deadline. So, Honestly, just understanding that that's kind of
33:00
Speaker 11: part of the job. And, you know, you got to
33:02
Speaker 11: play a bit of a football player regardless of where
33:04
Speaker 11: you are. So just being professional around that time and
33:08
Speaker 11: making sure that you're valuable in whatever room you're in.
33:10
Speaker 2: First down, the teal helmet, the rivalry uniforms.
33:14
Speaker 1: What you thought? Are you going to wear them this time?
33:15
Speaker 11: I love the helmet. I really love the helmet. I
33:18
Speaker 11: wanted the helmet, too. I wanted to buy my helmet
33:20
Speaker 11: at the game. So I really enjoyed the helmet. I
33:22
Speaker 11: don't know how everybody else feels about it, but I
33:24
Speaker 11: do like the helmet.
33:25
Speaker 1: Thanks for four downs.
33:26
Speaker 5: No problem.
33:32
Speaker 1: So there you have it.
33:33
Speaker 2: A few good minutes with a few of the good
33:35
Speaker 2: men who are working to build a championship version of
33:37
Speaker 2: the Jaguars here in Jacksonville. The Jaguars host the Indianapolis Colts,
33:41
Speaker 2: and as you know, they're a team in transition, having
33:44
Speaker 2: traded away cornerstone players on both the offense and defensive
33:48
Speaker 2: line to start rebuilding that proud franchise this week. The
33:53
Speaker 2: Jaguars will need the energy of a fan base that
33:55
Speaker 2: hasn't seen their guys in five weeks. And not only
33:58
Speaker 2: will they see their guys, but they'll get a look
34:00
Speaker 2: at the rivalry uniforms, which I really like. Teal helmets
34:04
Speaker 2: and all. Join us on Sunday morning at 10 o'clock
34:06
Speaker 2: Eastern for the Publix Tailgate Show and stay with us
34:09
Speaker 2: all day for the best comprehensive coverage of your favorite
34:12
Speaker 2: football team. And hit me up at X at Brian
34:17
Speaker 2: Big Mouth. Yep, I'm that self-aware. By the way, Sunday
34:21
Speaker 2: is the 650th Jaguars game if you count the preseason
34:24
Speaker 2: and postseason.
34:25
Speaker 1: And I do. I'm proud to say I've covered every
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Speaker 1: single one of them. See you on Sunday.