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Justin Jefferson and Kendrick Bourne join the podcast · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: The volume What is going on Everybody? John Middlecoff three
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  Speaker 1: and out podcast live here from Radio Row. Yeah. Man,
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  Speaker 1: I just don't even know what to say. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know why they call it Radio Row. Probably should be
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  Speaker 1: Podcast Row. But I'm going to talk about the experience.
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  Speaker 1: Here we have Kendrick Bourne, who played for the forty
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  Speaker 1: nine Ers this year, played for the Patriots and the
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  Speaker 1: forty nine Ers before that. He will join us as well.
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  Speaker 1: I was supposed to get chirm who I was with
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  Speaker 1: earlier this morning. That'd be Richard Sherman, but he he
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  Speaker 1: kind of snuck his way out of here when I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't paying attention. So he may promises it'll come on after.
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  Speaker 1: But you guys know the drill. Subscribe to the podcast
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  Speaker 1: if you listen on Collins Feed. You obviously can see
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  Speaker 1: us on Netflix, and you can find that Kendrick Bourne
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  Speaker 1: interview on netil Flick. You can find the uh al
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  Speaker 1: Guido the al Guido interview. Me and Jackson ran into
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  Speaker 1: Alguido and John Lynch last night when we were hanging
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  Speaker 1: out with our friends Ronnie Lott and Joe Montana. None
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  Speaker 1: of them actually talked to us, but we were all
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  Speaker 1: together in the same room, so we did. We left
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  Speaker 1: Al alone because he was a busy man. But you
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  Speaker 1: can see that all on Netflix. And let's talk some football.
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  Speaker 1: Me and Jackson went last night to watch nineteen eighty
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  Speaker 1: nine forty nine er team did like a Knight of
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  Speaker 1: Champions and it was Ronnie Lott, Joe Montana, Tom Rathman,
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  Speaker 1: John Taylor and it was led by Chris Berman and
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  Speaker 1: it was it was really really cool. And one takeaway
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  Speaker 1: I had from that actually, and I told Sherman this
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  Speaker 1: this morning, I feel like Ronnie Lott is the most
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  Speaker 1: underappreciated player in the history of sports. Like I feel
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  Speaker 1: like when you just bring up random names like Mickey Mannle,
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  Speaker 1: Wilt Chamberlain, whoever, just like really famous all time great players,
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  Speaker 1: everyone's like, ah, I feel like no one ever brings
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  Speaker 1: up Ronnie Lott and Joe Montana. Last night was like
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  Speaker 1: that guy was the heart and soul and we were
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  Speaker 1: a defensive team, and I was thinking, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: Ronnie Lott does not get the appreciation that he deserves.
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  Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty one, he was drafted, they immediately won
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  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and he became like this hybrid. He
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  Speaker 1: ended up playing safety, but he was a corner at first.
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  Speaker 1: It's like he hit like John Lynch, he could cover
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  Speaker 1: like he was Reevus, and we just don't talk about him.
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  Speaker 1: So that's my little soapbox rant right now. Is Ronnie
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  Speaker 1: Lott is criminally underrated. I mean criminally, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: think he's underrated in a sense like people that talk
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  Speaker 1: about football talk about Ronnie, Like understand, Ronnie Lot's good,
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  Speaker 1: but no one ever talks about him. Everyone's fucking talking
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  Speaker 1: about Anthony Davis getting traded and all these things, Like
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  Speaker 1: no one ever mentions this guy. It's crazy. I just
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  Speaker 1: wanted to give him some love because I love I
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  Speaker 1: freaking love Ronnie Lot. He's just football is built on
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  Speaker 1: guys like that. Even Joe Montana Jackson, you were there,
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  Speaker 1: pointed Ronnie Lott, hard and soul. The team that being said,
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  Speaker 1: Seattle's in the super Bowl and they're probably gonna win
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  Speaker 1: it in the forty nine Ers stadium. So there's that,
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  Speaker 1: and uh yeah. Other than that, I want to San Francisco.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta keep your head on a swivel when you're
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  Speaker 1: walking around the city. There's a lot of fecal matter
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  Speaker 1: on the ground, and it ain't just from dogs. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, I last night you had to do like
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  Speaker 1: a little Christian McCaffrey walking down the street. Beautiful weather,
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  Speaker 1: though it's like sixty five degrees. You gotta be carefuls
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  Speaker 1: The thing about San Francisco and the Bay Arey in general,
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  Speaker 1: I guess coastal towns were like this. Where I went
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  Speaker 1: to school, cal Poly was a lot like this is
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  Speaker 1: you wake up and it's cold, so you're wearing jeans,
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  Speaker 1: a pull over, a sweatshirt, and then the sun comes
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  Speaker 1: out and you starts sweating, so you like want shorts
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  Speaker 1: and a T shirt. And then like a little before dinner,
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  Speaker 1: it gets cold again, so you gotta have your head
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  Speaker 1: on a swivel with outfits. Like when I left the
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  Speaker 1: hotel this morning at about eight, it was cold by
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  Speaker 1: the time, and I kind of got lost. I was
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  Speaker 1: kind of turned around, even though I've spent I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I lived in this area for thirty plus years of
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  Speaker 1: my life. That you get in the sun and you
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  Speaker 1: start getting hot. It's you know, at least like where
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  Speaker 1: I'm at Arizona's just hot. The thing with the barry,
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  Speaker 1: you just never know what pitch it's gonna throw. Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: it's throwing one hundred miles an hour and you're like,
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  Speaker 1: it's freezing cold, bundle up. Sometimes it's sun out and
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  Speaker 1: you're like it's eighty degrees, but it feels really hot.
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  Speaker 1: You're sweating. So hopefully the weather's great this weekend, we
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  Speaker 1: get a good super Bowl. I love the super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I it's just there's just so much on
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  Speaker 1: the line. Sam Donald super Bowl champion. Imagine if Sam
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  Speaker 1: Donald wins the super Bowl MVP. I mean, I'm sitting
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  Speaker 1: there last night, Joe Montana. They're like super Bowl MVP,
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  Speaker 1: Joe Montana. What if you just walk into a room,
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  Speaker 1: it's like Tom Brady, super Bowl MVP, Joe Montana, super
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  Speaker 1: Bowl MVP, Peyton Manning super Bowl MVP, and then Sam
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  Speaker 1: Donald walks in in like a week, It's like, I'm
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  Speaker 1: a super Bowl two. Think out crazy. That would be
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  Speaker 1: describing that to someone several years ago that that happened.
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  Speaker 1: People I don't even think would believe you. They wouldn't.
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  Speaker 1: But it's not even possible. I mean, he's the betting favorite.
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  Speaker 1: If Seattle wins. You just look at the history. Typically
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks not only win the award, it's very difficult for
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  Speaker 1: them not to win the award. It would take a
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  Speaker 1: corner having like two picks. It would take a Jackson
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  Speaker 1: Smith having anything he does Sam Darnold's doing. So the
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  Speaker 1: quarterback usually gets more respect than the wide receiver. Edelman's
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  Speaker 1: crazy catch like that's it takes something crazy to take
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  Speaker 1: it away from Sam. So yeah, other than that, still
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  Speaker 1: kind of running on fumes. You know, I thought I'd
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  Speaker 1: be able to sleep. Felt a little guilty, so my
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  Speaker 1: wife said that the baby didn't sleep. But you just
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  Speaker 1: kind of lay in the hotel room, stare at the
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  Speaker 1: sky and you're like, I guess, guess I gotta go
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  Speaker 1: to radio row and sling some takes. So let's dive
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  Speaker 1: Okay, here with the LSU legend, multiple time All Pro
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  Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson. You know, during during during fall, during August
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  Speaker 1: training camp, I'm watching a Vikings preseason game and you're
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  Speaker 1: miked up with Paul Al and you just held it down.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Tom Brady makes a lot of money.
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  Speaker 3: It might be a future, for sure, There's definitely something
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  Speaker 3: I might look into. I'm always a fan of sports,
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  Speaker 3: always a fan of especially of football. Uh So it's
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  Speaker 3: definitely something I might need to take, you know, take
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  Speaker 3: a part. But as of right now, as you know,
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  Speaker 3: to play, I'm gonna play in until it all said.
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  Speaker 1: Have you done that before? During during the training camp game? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I did last year.
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  Speaker 3: I did last year and they said, like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we need to do this again, right.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm always on different interviews and different little seconds
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  Speaker 3: on TV, so I feel like I'm starting to get
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  Speaker 3: accustomed to it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's funny, You're obviously fun guy, come here,
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  Speaker 1: have a good time. But anything you say right now,
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  Speaker 1: everyone you know you're you know, you go to these places.
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  Speaker 1: You just said something last week and it's everywhere you look, right, Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Is that?
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  Speaker 1: I mean typically you come here, times are good, You've
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  Speaker 1: been winning All Pro and now it's like I want
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  Speaker 1: his takes on VOT. I got about three questions quarterback GM.
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  Speaker 1: You get nervous when you come into that no one
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  Speaker 1: that's coming, you don't care. That's something I had to.
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  Speaker 3: Answer all year, you know, of course, uh being in
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  Speaker 3: the season and uh, you know, losing having question questions
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  Speaker 3: at quarterback. Those questions always has been given to me
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  Speaker 3: throughout the year. Uh is really nothing. It's just all
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  Speaker 3: about something. I really tell what it is and just
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  Speaker 3: tell them what what I'm looking forward to. Of course,
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  Speaker 3: what needs to work on and what we need to
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  Speaker 3: get better at. So it's not really much about being
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  Speaker 3: nervous about the questions. Uh, but of course those questions
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  Speaker 3: do hit a little bit harder.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think about Sam? I mean, obviously had
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  Speaker 1: a great season last year.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he's.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely had a great season last year, but he bounced
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  Speaker 3: back and had an even better one this year. So
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  Speaker 3: I feel like that's the main thing that I'm taking
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  Speaker 3: away from it. Uh, you know a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: counting him out, a lot of people, uh you know,
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  Speaker 3: asking if he's able to do that again to what
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  Speaker 3: the whole different team. So I'm just happy to see
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  Speaker 3: him reach to this stage, of course, with the journey
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  Speaker 3: that he has, and hopefully he wins it.
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  Speaker 1: When did you know last year, Okay, this is gonna
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  Speaker 1: was a training camp? Was OTA's Did he pay a
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  Speaker 1: couple of games? Yeah, you gotta do a lot of quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 3: For sure, a good bit, but uh, I mean training camp,
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  Speaker 3: he definitely made plays, definitely was had a big arm,
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  Speaker 3: being able to lead the offense, and then once JJ went.
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  Speaker 1: Down with the injury, then he was the main guy.
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  Speaker 3: So it was all about h connecting with him and
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  Speaker 3: building that relationship and building building that relationship out there
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  Speaker 3: on that field. So I mean to see him throughout
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  Speaker 3: the game, winning fourteen fourteen games that season and being
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  Speaker 3: a valuable spark for us that we really needed during
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  Speaker 3: that time. I mean, he's he's definitely a great player,
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  Speaker 3: but he's also a great, great guy as well.
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  Speaker 1: Was this a crazy year of your career?
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  Speaker 4: For sure? One hundred percent.
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  Speaker 3: Just to deal with the different things that I had
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  Speaker 3: to deal with this year, you know, and everybody really
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  Speaker 3: expecting me to give a reaction or give give my
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  Speaker 3: honest opinion, but just really staying true to myself, staying
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  Speaker 3: true to the guys that's out that's in that building,
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  Speaker 3: and just understanding that, you know, the people that's in
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  Speaker 3: this building are the main important people. So it really
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  Speaker 3: wasn't about you know, putting anybody down or putting a
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  Speaker 3: bad name on anybody. It's just all about you know,
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  Speaker 3: going back to work and just of course being that
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  Speaker 3: leader in that captain that I am.
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  Speaker 1: I remember Carson Palmer told me years ago that like
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  Speaker 1: the thing he missed about playing was everyone looking at
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  Speaker 1: him he walked into the building. What's unique about you?
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  Speaker 1: You're kind of that guy. It's typically the quarterback when
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  Speaker 1: you're so it's like if you shug your shoulder something,
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  Speaker 1: everyone picks it apart. So it's like, you think you
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  Speaker 1: kind of grew this year from just because everyone's like,
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  Speaker 1: oh is he mad? Oh he's over it, Oh he's passed.
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  Speaker 3: And uh, you know I had to learn that patience
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  Speaker 3: as that.
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  Speaker 1: Fair that people picking your parts. I mean, it comes
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  Speaker 1: with terriory. It comes with the game, you know. That's
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  Speaker 1: it comes with signing up for.
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  Speaker 3: This huge program that's billions of dollars being involved and
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  Speaker 3: all millions of fans that's being involved.
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  Speaker 4: So uh, it's a part of it. You know. They
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  Speaker 4: want to win.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, they want answers, uh, and the only way is
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  Speaker 3: to get those answers from the face of the franchise.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: So it's it's it's staying true to myself, saying truth
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  Speaker 3: to the guys that's in that building, and not really
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  Speaker 3: putting a bad name or a bad comment on anybody's
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  Speaker 3: name in name.
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  Speaker 1: What's key to JJ just growing and everything this offseason.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean just I mean if people don't really uh,
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  Speaker 3: if people don't look at him as just a quarterback,
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  Speaker 3: obviously he's a quarterback of this organization, but this is
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  Speaker 3: his first year.
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  Speaker 4: You know, this is his new time.
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  Speaker 3: This is a whole new time of really him experiencing
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  Speaker 3: being out there on that field with these type of guys, uh,
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  Speaker 3: playing in this league. So it's not always going to
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  Speaker 3: be you know though, finding danity, roses and butterflies. Uh.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes it takes a little bit of patience. Sometimes it
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  Speaker 3: takes a little bit of a more extra work in
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  Speaker 3: order for him to be exactly what he needed to be.
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  Speaker 1: You obviously had his historic you know, last year at LSU,
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  Speaker 1: and then you had a pretty big moment even though
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  Speaker 1: you had nothing to do with it, when it said
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  Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles have selected Jalen Rager and they go
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  Speaker 1: to the Minnesota guys and they're like, yeah, you were
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  Speaker 1: the next pick, right, Yeah, that was You're welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the NFL moment.
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  Speaker 3: It still comes viral, and I mean a whole bunch
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  Speaker 3: of mock drafts had me going to Philly, uh that year,
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  Speaker 3: and then you know, Minnesota actually called me during their pick.
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  Speaker 4: So I thought it was Philly calling me at that time.
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  Speaker 3: But when I heard him and he was like, this
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  Speaker 3: is the Minnesota mic is, I definitely was you know confused,
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  Speaker 3: but I also was happy, of course being picked in
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  Speaker 3: the first round and being able to fulfill my dreams.
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  Speaker 1: I got one more freget out here you coming out?
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  Speaker 1: Look back you went in the twenties because it was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: he's a slot receiver. Oh he can't, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: separate outside the drafts couple, you know, a couple months away.
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  Speaker 1: Now looking back, how did that happen? I really don't know.
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  Speaker 3: And honestly, if you really looked at the film and
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  Speaker 3: you really studied my game, I'm definitely far more than
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  Speaker 3: a slot receiver. And that was my first year playing
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  Speaker 3: slot receiver. Actually, you know, years before I always play
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  Speaker 3: outside receiver. So it was just all about the talk
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  Speaker 3: that was in the building. Of course, having Jamar Chase,
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  Speaker 3: having Terrace Marshall and myself. Someone had to play outside
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  Speaker 3: and someone had to play inside.
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  Speaker 1: It was a decent offense, exactly, it was.
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  Speaker 3: It was pretty decent, right, So just taking that role
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  Speaker 3: into playing that slot position, being able to move, being versatile,
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  Speaker 3: showing uh, well, it was apparently supposed to show the
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  Speaker 3: that I was more versatile, but they thought that I
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  Speaker 3: was more of a slot receiver than than of course
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  Speaker 3: being versatile, So it was all.
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  Speaker 1: Part of the play.
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  Speaker 3: I'm happy to be in Minnesota, happy to have a fantastic,
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  Speaker 3: state of the art facility where eight plus is on everything.
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  Speaker 3: So I was definitely honored to be there. It just,
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  Speaker 3: you know, of course, had to go through some changes
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  Speaker 3: and difficulties of reaching to where we would like to go.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people say in Indiana best team ever.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know about that.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think so either.
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  Speaker 1: Sebody, yes, sir.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, here at the Super Bowl with a wide receiver
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  Speaker 1: who played for Kyle Shanahan, for Bill Belichick and then
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  Speaker 1: for Kyle Shanahan again. Kendrick Bourne, How you doing.
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  Speaker 4: Man, Jo? How you doing?
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  Speaker 1: How's life doing?
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  Speaker 4: Good Man? Life's good, man, Biden?
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  Speaker 1: What a season?
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  Speaker 4: Huh No, man, it's fun. It was fun, man.
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  Speaker 1: So let's go back. Let's uh. You left the forty
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  Speaker 1: nine ers for the Patriots. Ye, and then obviously they
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  Speaker 1: had some coaching changes over the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 1: How did the everything play out with you coming back?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? It was amazing.
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  Speaker 5: Obviously getting released it is tough, but uh took it
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  Speaker 5: on the chin man like a man, and just enjoying
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  Speaker 5: the process of it. But uh, just talking to teams,
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  Speaker 5: you know, having a relationship with San Fran I've obviously
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: was locked in with them, and so when I got released,
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: I was available.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: They like, hey, we're interested.
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: Had Washington on the cars too, But ultimately you could
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: see the story kind of right in itself, so like
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: I had to just follow God and ended up doing
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: a workout and it worked out and so came home
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: and I'm out where I'm at.
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: But it was a good journey.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: What week did you sign?
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: I signed week two? Week two, Yeah, a Seattle game.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you come in. I mean I feel like
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: the NFC West had some of the games of the year, man,
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: I mean some of the games of the year, and
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: you were apart, you know the injuries party gets hurt yep,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: and then you and Mac Jones looked like Joe Montana
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: and Jared Rice in that game. What'd you do? Like
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: ten for a buck fifty?
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, you're right there, you there, you there.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: And your relationship with Mac going back to New England,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: that was something that made the transition a lot easier.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: And it's quat because you didn't expect him to play
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: when you sign, and then perty gets injured. Was that
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: week two that he get injured? It was yep, week too, Yeah,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: because then Max started playing like the next eight games yep.
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: So it was just a crazy story, you know what
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like I could never see that if I
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: just thought that that year, you know what I'm saying.
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: So God's playing is always better and Mac being with
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: him his rookie year and then that was my first
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: year kind of getting paid due it in my career
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: finally kind of growing and ended up being back with
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: him was just special man. So it definitely made the
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: transition easy and we was cooking. Man took advantage of
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: our opportunity.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Well before we get into Kyle or Josh mcdanath, Phil,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: I do think you represent the NFL seriously. Undrafted free
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: agent makes the team. Team's not very good at first,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: you end up going to Super Bowl. Yeah, and you
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: were one of the main guys on that Super Bowl team.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Terms right there right, I'll pro on that to you.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: And then you get a second big contract like that's
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: this is not these other sports. Like you're not a
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: high pick, you weren't even drafted, and how many years
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: are you in now?
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: You got to be ten crazy man. So just life's good, man,
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: that God is good. Just the mindset, my perspective has
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: been right.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: When I go through lows, when I'm go through highs,
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: you know, just staying level, like you can't never get
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: too high. And so any advice to anybody listening, you know,
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: just keep your head down, work And it's been special.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: So being in the super Bowl, being.
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: Undrafted, all these getting paid, experiencing the whole thing of
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: the NFL has been fun, man. And that's what I
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: think life is all about experiences and how you experience them.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Did you make the team out of camp as a rookie? Yes,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: so you made the team as an undrafted free agent
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: out of camp. Never looked back seeing that you've never
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: been cut till later in your career.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just this is my first time being released. This
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: this year, this started the year did vrabel was he?
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: It was crazy and it was a good experience for me.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: And that's what I talk about experiences. Whether it's a
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: bad experience, good experience, It doesn't matter what the world thinks,
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: it's a matter what I think in my mind.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: How uh, how I take it and use it as
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: feel or let it take me down.
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: So I actually I used to say like, I'm never
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: gonna be released ever, but then I got released. It's
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: I'm like, oh shoot, so now how do I how
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: do I take it? How do I process it? And
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: I did a good job, man, and I ended up
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: going back home. And the story's dope, but it's just
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: my perspectives right about not going into the tank about it.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Didn't you have a college teammate that's pretty good in there?
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: So Eastern Washington had a ten year NFL VET?
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP. I mean, did you guys ever lose?
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: We were?
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Didn't you have an NFL quarterback?
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: We have Vernon Adams.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: It was Vernon out Oh yeah, yeah he organ kid
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: the organ he transferred organ but he yes. Coop Man
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: is my guy. I'm praying that he does well in
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: the game. Man, I really wanted to win too, so
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: I'm kind of going for both sides. I love my
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: guys in New England, all my friends and then Cooping
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: them Man, they bawling. But he helped me a lot
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: in my life, man, and being connected to him so
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: long has helped me in my life.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: You know, it's funny you know, obviously the nine or
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Seattle big rival, but like it's kind of like Shirm
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Shirm came, everyone likes her, Sam Donald came. Everyone likes
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Sam Donald. So it's like the forty nine ers. I
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: mean those two games stand. The year is hard, right,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: he guess we're running on fumes, injuries.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: It's heavy. You know.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: Seattle's a really good defense, really good team overall. McDonald man,
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: he's different. I like the way he answers interviews. Just confident,
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like not worrying about anybody
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: else but inside the building. And that's why they're winning.
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: That's why they are where they are. Sam Donald balling.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: So they got a good thing going. They going into
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: the off season with like seventy million or something.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: So you want to.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: It's a possibility. It's a possibility. You know.
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: I'm a free agent, so I'm willing to go ever
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: the best opportunity to present itself. I want to be
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: back in Sant fran That's my home. But hey man,
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: anybody give me a good opportunity to play, compete, help
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: a team win. That's what I'm looking for.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: What was it like playing for Kyle?
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: He's awesome, man smart. He actually helped me develop into
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: who I am today. You know, that's where I started,
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: and so like learning his playbook first was just tough
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: for a young guy, but it got me used to
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: the league.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: So when I went from him the Josh McDaniels, it
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: was easy easier for me.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: To translate Josh McDaniel's office into my mind and play.
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: So he helped me grow develop and I'm always thankful
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: for that.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Kyle's hard on white House.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: So let's hit yeah, where his babies, bro? You know
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: The train runs through us, so like we got to
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: we got to operate it right, and he does a
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: good job of pushing us.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: And you were around what the floor, Mike McDaniel, how
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: many head coaches obviously solid Demico. I mean, all these
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: guys run fat when you first got there.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: It's crazy.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: So you can see what Kyle develops and like the
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: culture he builds, and it's a strong foundation and I'm
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: blessed to say I was a part of that foundation.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: You're starting on to nine.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: Finishing six and ten, twenty eighteen, four and twelve Super Bowl,
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: Nigga Struggling in the next twenty twenty COVID. But the
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: culture was built in those four years. And then you
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: build coaches, you build people will have interests of Okay,
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: how are they doing it? And that's why you see
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: some many hit head coaches.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: How many guys in the NFL have played for Kyle
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: and Bill Belichick? It can't be a long list.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: That is a great question.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: Somebody told me a story about me playing for both,
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: about build.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I'm just less than one hand.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: Usually you might be right, So I'm like one, I
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: can't think of one one of those guys.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: So somebody was like Kyle.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: Kyle called Bill Belichick about me, like, hey, how's KB.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: What is his attitude?
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: And Kyle gave him a good answer like hey, his
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: attitude is great. You're gonna love him. And then Bill
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: somehow talked to Colin's like, hey, man, I.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: Do love this guy.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: So hearing stuff like that, you know, it puts puts
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: credit to what I do in my attitude and how
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: I approach.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: And now I'm blessed.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Man can be a little grumpy, you know, I was young,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: you knowles.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: Grumpy serious about you know what I'm saying, Like they
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: watching a lot of film, They're doing a lot of studying.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: So you know, football is tough, so it.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: Built so when you a person like me having charisma dancing,
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: it breaks the ice a little bit.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: So it brings the joy in it. Man. But it's
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: a tough sport.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: So that's why they think for Mac Jones rookie year,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: yeahs made the playoffs that year. Yeah, you're playing that
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: game where you only had three pass attempts, right, I
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: guess Buffalo bro.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: I had one handoff, so I was happy. But Josh
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: McDaniels ran the ball.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys have a game like seventy No, okay,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: oh you just ran the ball the whole He ran
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: the ball.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: So I think we had like one hundred and twenty
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: we won. Yeah, but that was the most one of
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: the most amazing game calls by Josh I've ever seen.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: Just to run the ball fifty times and running three
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: three attempts, right, crazy bro, So it.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: Just was.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I kind of forget.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: Was it a win? Yes, it was like a wind gust.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: That was crazy. But Josh, Josh Allen was thrown in that.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: He wadn't care.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: He was splitting the window.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: He's powerful.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: So that was a crazy game, crazy experience, just a
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: good time to be a part of.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I know you gotta get going. But what was like
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: playing you know Belichick now is in college. What was
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: that experience like for with Bill?
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: It was just life changing? Man. You know what I'm saying.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: Just to learn from somebody that knows it, Ud seriously,
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Bill gave me my first payday.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I'm always thankful for that.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: I always remember him for that.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: And the thing is like when I'm sitting in my house,
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: like Patriots helped me get this, So I'm always rooting
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: for him. You know, even if I got released and
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: not playing, that stuff was important. So Bill gave me
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: the opportunity and I love him. He taught me a lot,
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: taught me how to be better in football, better in
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: life and just my day to day and I'm thankful
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: for him.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: To be a first ballot. He doesn't make sense, Bro.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: That was that was insane.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: Doesn't make sense, Bro.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I think every coach in the league would be the first.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Tell you he's incredible.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: People not watching football.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: All the nonsense.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: What about the year with Max's rookie year when you guys.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: Made the playoffs, phenomenal, phenomenal, and that's what's crazy, Like,
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: it's funny to see the Patriots in it right now,
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: but they kind of had the sauce, they had the
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: script with Mac and where we were going, but then
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: coaching changes and it just it kind of went downhill
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: in our era over there.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: So so you're a big Bill Belichick guy.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: I really am, I really am. I love that guy.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: I saw him in North Carolina. I went to visit
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: him when I was in San Francisco. Yeah, it was
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: good just seeing him catching up and that's my god.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Congrats on everything, Kendrick, and good luck and.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: For you, thank you, Bro. Appreciate having taking these shirt
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: and think brom
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: The volume