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Katie Woolf spoke with Chief Minister Michael Gunner · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: Chief Minister of the Northern Territory, Michael Gunner, Good morning,
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  Speaker 1: Good okadie. Now, Chief Minister, this issue of crime, it's
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  Speaker 1: dominated the headlines for a long time now. The government
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  Speaker 1: your government last month announcing changes to legislation, but the
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  Speaker 1: big question has been when it's going to pass this
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  Speaker 1: legislation now. The leader of the Opposition, Lea Fanocchiario is
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  Speaker 1: this morning calling for Parliament to be urgently recalled to
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  Speaker 1: deal with the ongoing issues that we're seeing in the
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  Speaker 1: Northern Territory when it comes to crime, Chief, will you
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  Speaker 1: recall parliament to get this legislation passed.
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  Speaker 2: We'll have parliament in three weeks time, whilst you're not
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  Speaker 2: looking at taking the advice of the lidary opposition here
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  Speaker 2: last sittings, we will provide a notice of a bill
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  Speaker 2: at eight o'clock the night before and ask to pass
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  Speaker 2: on all stages and agency the next day. The lead
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  Speaker 2: opposition has form unfortunately with getting details wrong. I do
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  Speaker 2: agree with the leosition. I'm sure we all agree that
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  Speaker 2: community safety is a priority and it or be a
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  Speaker 2: priority for us during the next sittings, but we've got
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  Speaker 2: to be very careful about making any mistakes in this
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  Speaker 2: space around the detail when it comes to legislation, because
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  Speaker 2: that's the only winner of that will be people doing
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  Speaker 2: the wrong thing.
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  Speaker 3: We've got to get it right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, why don't we have another day of Parliament so
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  Speaker 1: that you have got some more time to be able
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  Speaker 1: to go through all of that. Everybody from both sides
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  Speaker 1: of Parliament and the independents can obviously ask questions and
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  Speaker 1: take a closer look at that legislation.
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  Speaker 3: I believe that's possible in May.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, But we.
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  Speaker 1: Actually spoke you and I spoke about this last week
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  Speaker 1: and you, I mean all the week before last, and
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  Speaker 1: you actually said to me that that was your hope
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  Speaker 1: that it would go through in May. But do you
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  Speaker 1: do you feel as though you're going to be able
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  Speaker 1: to get this legislation passed in May?
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  Speaker 2: So for me, I believe May is the right sittings
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  Speaker 2: both introduced it and pass it.
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  Speaker 3: We'll make that decision between now and May.
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  Speaker 2: But I completely support the idea of doing it on
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  Speaker 2: urgency in the May sittings, which is going to what
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  Speaker 2: you're saying.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 1: The Opposition leader says that Territorians are suffering right now.
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  Speaker 1: They can't can't wait until next month. To see what
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  Speaker 1: your plan's going to look like. She says, let's recall
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  Speaker 1: Parliament this week to deal with the territories crime crisis.
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  Speaker 1: She reckons all we need is one sitting day to
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  Speaker 1: get it done, Chief Minister. The community has been calling
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  Speaker 1: for changes for so long. I mean, why not just
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  Speaker 1: recall Parliament for a day.
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  Speaker 2: You've got to always do the right thing by the
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  Speaker 2: victim and by a community safety and that means not
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  Speaker 2: making mistakes in this space. So we'll be looking at
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  Speaker 2: the May sittings and doing this right and making sure
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  Speaker 2: we keep the community safe. So for me, that is
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  Speaker 2: the priority has to be about community safety and delivering
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  Speaker 2: the best outcome for the community.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't understand though, If that is your goal,
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  Speaker 1: why what would be the issue with recalling for a day.
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  Speaker 2: So Parliament's in three weeks time, will introduce it, We
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  Speaker 2: allow it to sit there for people to look at,
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  Speaker 2: look at the detail of it, and then you pass
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  Speaker 2: it during that sitting fortnight. So that provides the right
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  Speaker 2: level when you do things, e mergency level of scrutiny
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  Speaker 2: as well as ability to deal in an urgent manner.
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  Speaker 2: And that's obviously only three weeks away.
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  Speaker 4: It's the legislation not ready.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we're aiming for the May sittings. So for me,
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  Speaker 2: that's the most important thing is getting into the May sittings,
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  Speaker 2: introducing it, allowing us it there and then you do
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  Speaker 2: the passage.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I mean we've got it. We do have
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  Speaker 1: an issue at the moment, there is no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 1: We know the school holidays have begun. Their were concerns
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  Speaker 1: raised last week that this may see an increase in
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  Speaker 1: crime and anti social behavior. Obviously, as a result, the
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  Speaker 1: Northern Territory Police launched an increased presence at Casurina, among
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  Speaker 1: other things.
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  Speaker 4: It is great that.
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  Speaker 1: We're seeing that increased police patrol. I think they're doing
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  Speaker 1: a phenomenal job to deal with this. But last week
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  Speaker 1: alone we saw obviously the Fanny Bay supermarket broken into.
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  Speaker 1: We spoke to Dollies in Leanna who had a terrible
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  Speaker 1: incident with well with alcohol stolen and then bottles thrown
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  Speaker 1: in the car park as people tried to get to
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  Speaker 1: their cars. There was a fourteen year.
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  Speaker 4: Old boy in a twelve year old girl's bedroom in Palmerston.
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  Speaker 4: A sixteen year.
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  Speaker 1: Old girl was assaulted while on a bus. A taxi
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  Speaker 1: driver was robbed and an elderly woman got off a
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  Speaker 1: bus before well a group of teens attempted to steal
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  Speaker 1: her bag.
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  Speaker 4: In the Northern.
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  Speaker 1: Suburbs, we also know that shops in Palmerston and Stuart
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  Speaker 1: Park were broken into. Then over the weekend a man
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  Speaker 1: was allegedly assaulted in an unlawful entry in Alice Springs.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, do you concede.
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  Speaker 1: That you've let this situation go on way too long
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  Speaker 1: and you should have acted sooner.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you've got to act every day, Katie.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's no doubt about that. But I mean, take
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  Speaker 1: a listen to what I just read out. Is that
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  Speaker 1: acceptable to you?
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  Speaker 3: No crimes acceptable? Absolutely agree.
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  Speaker 1: You keep saying that though, But then on the other hand,
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  Speaker 1: you're not actually you know, why not have another day
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  Speaker 1: of parliament, Why not try to bring this legislation in sooner?
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  Speaker 1: Why not listen to the community that's screaming out to you.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll be doing that in the May sittings, which
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  Speaker 2: is three weeks away, so just around the corner and
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  Speaker 2: we'll be doing it. We'll be making decision about doing
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  Speaker 2: it on urgency during the.
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  Speaker 1: Cold comfort though, isn't it for the next three weeks
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  Speaker 1: for anybody that gets broken into has crime committed against them.
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  Speaker 2: I take it all responsibility from the moment we were
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  Speaker 2: elected in twenty sixteen as Chief Minister to now to
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  Speaker 2: what happens after May. It always sits with me, and
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  Speaker 2: that's why we made a number of decisions, not just
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  Speaker 2: one civil bullet. Unfortunately, you've got to do a lot
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  Speaker 2: of things, and we are working every day on law
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  Speaker 2: and order and making the community safe.
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  Speaker 3: It's an everyday job.
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  Speaker 1: Is this legislation, So basically you're ruling out recalling parliament
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  Speaker 1: for a day.
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  Speaker 4: You can rule that out this morning.
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  Speaker 2: I see that as a stunt from the COLP. We'll
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  Speaker 2: be doing it properly in the May sittings, as you
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  Speaker 2: should do.
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  Speaker 1: And you are confident then that in the May sittings
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  Speaker 1: the legislation that's going to pass. You're telling me that
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  Speaker 1: that legislation is going to pass.
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  Speaker 2: Firstly, so I support it being done on urgency. We
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  Speaker 2: haven't made that decision yet. I've got to do that
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  Speaker 2: with my Cabinet and caucus. Obviously support it being dealt
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  Speaker 2: with urgently. The one caveat there is you can ever
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  Speaker 2: make mistakes with legislation like this because only when it
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  Speaker 2: would be the people doing the wrong thing. So that's
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  Speaker 2: an important caveat, I think. But for me, May sittings
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  Speaker 2: are what's so May four is when we sit for
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  Speaker 2: Parliament's when I introduce the budgets. It's a lot happening
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  Speaker 2: in the May sitting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're still going to try and do that
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  Speaker 1: even though the budget is being handed down, even though
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  Speaker 1: you know one would suspect that our finances and our
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  Speaker 1: budget are going to be a massive part of those
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  Speaker 1: May sittings. You're going to try and jam really those
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  Speaker 1: two most important issues to territories into that one block
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  Speaker 1: of sittings.
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  Speaker 3: It's a six day sitting period.
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  Speaker 2: We can absolutely do both tasks, and I think people
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  Speaker 2: expect us to be to do more than one thing.
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  Speaker 1: And are you confident that that legislation that you're going
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  Speaker 1: to introduce into those May sittings that it is going
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  Speaker 1: to be what the territory needs so that we can
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  Speaker 1: get past this issue of.
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  Speaker 2: Crime, And that's what we talked about the other day.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it will be a civil bullet and
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  Speaker 2: quick fix. We'll be very careful about that. I only
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  Speaker 2: think's anything that any government could do where crime simply
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  Speaker 2: just piers the next day. But these are things that
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  Speaker 2: will make the community safer. I think common sense things
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  Speaker 2: like if you commenced a version, you should complete diversion,
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  Speaker 2: if you have a serious breach of bail, or that
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  Speaker 2: bail gets revoked, that police have greater ability to be
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  Speaker 2: able to apply electronic monitoring.
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  Speaker 3: I think they're all sensible things.
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  Speaker 1: If they are such sensible things, why is it taken
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  Speaker 1: so long?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think you'll keep working at this, and we
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  Speaker 2: promised at the last election to strengthen bail monitoring and compliance.
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  Speaker 2: Our the work or that these are things that we
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  Speaker 2: identified as being needed to be done. Some of these
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  Speaker 2: things have gone through many governments, both CLP and Labor,
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  Speaker 2: and we're fixing them up this next sittings.
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  Speaker 1: So what would you say to any territory in listening
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  Speaker 1: this morning, who's thinking, Come on, Chief Minister, why don't
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  Speaker 1: we just recall Parliament for a day to try and
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  Speaker 1: make sure that we can get this across the line
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  Speaker 1: to hopefully, if you know, like you've said, if it's
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  Speaker 1: going to make a difference and if it is going
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  Speaker 1: to strengthen things in the territory. So we're not dealing
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  Speaker 1: with this issue of crime. Why not do it sooner?
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  Speaker 3: So May is three weeks away.
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  Speaker 2: We'll do this properly and we'll get it right so
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  Speaker 2: that you're safe and we won't make the mistakes.
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  Speaker 1: All right, the text line is going berserk. I will
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  Speaker 1: read some of those messages out in a little while,
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  Speaker 1: but I want to talk about Karama. Labour's member for
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  Speaker 1: Karama and Nari ra Kit was on the show last
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  Speaker 1: week and see that there are hundreds upon hundreds of
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  Speaker 1: visitors who've arrived in the electorate since the beginning of
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  Speaker 1: the year. There has been serious crime issues reported. Photos
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  Speaker 1: have been sent to us here at three sixty people
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  Speaker 1: drinking at the kids playground in the morning. Your local
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  Speaker 1: member told us as well of serious issues with chroming.
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  Speaker 1: What are you doing to return people to country if
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  Speaker 1: they're not contributing to the community.
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  Speaker 2: So in the territory in the first part of this year,
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  Speaker 2: we've seen an increase in mobility and an increase in money.
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  Speaker 2: And late last year as well, we've had a thirty
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  Speaker 2: percent increase in people using return to country. So we've
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  Speaker 2: got about fifteen hundred people back home so far in January,
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  Speaker 2: February and March. That compares favorably of January February last year.
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  Speaker 2: March last year was a bit of anomally. We've got
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  Speaker 2: a thousand people back to community alone in March last year.
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  Speaker 2: That was within the COVID restrictions first came in the
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  Speaker 2: biosecurity zones.
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  Speaker 3: People have a right to travel.
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  Speaker 2: We can't compel people to travel, but we have got
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  Speaker 2: that return to country program there and more people are
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  Speaker 2: using it. Larakia, though, are reporting a significant increase in
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  Speaker 2: their workload. So apologies, Robert, if you're out there listening,
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  Speaker 2: I get this wrong. It's around two thousand interactions I
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  Speaker 2: think they had February last year and around four and
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  Speaker 2: a half thousand interactions in February this year. That's a
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  Speaker 2: significant increase in the amount of work that Larakia Nation
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  Speaker 2: are doing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we caught up with Larikia Nation last week and
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  Speaker 1: spoke quite a bit about this with Robert Cooper.
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  Speaker 4: Can I ask is it legal to drink in public?
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  Speaker 1: It depends where So for example, I suppose just on
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  Speaker 1: that example in Karama where there are people drinking at
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  Speaker 1: the playground there at the kids playground in the early
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  Speaker 1: hours of the morning, is that legal?
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  Speaker 2: You can't drink within two kilometers of a liquor license.
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  Speaker 2: I presume that spot will be outside of that and
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  Speaker 2: police have the power then to do tip out a
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  Speaker 2: number of things depending on where you are drinking.
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  Speaker 4: But as it.
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  Speaker 1: Currently sits in so if there is somebody, if there's
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  Speaker 1: people drinking in public and they're they're further away than
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  Speaker 1: two kilometers from a licensed premises, then that's actually okay.
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  Speaker 2: There's a large number of areas in Daralen where that
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  Speaker 2: the two K law basically covers most of most of
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  Speaker 2: most of Darlin. But just saying without knowing the exact part,
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  Speaker 2: there is a there is a small chance, but it's
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  Speaker 2: highly unlikely that's a legal spot. Obviously, No, my own
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  Speaker 2: electorate better, and what isn't isn't a drinking area amone
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  Speaker 2: electorate and some some parks. I've got parks in my electorate.
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  Speaker 2: It's legal drink within certain hours and illegal drink after
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  Speaker 2: certain hours. So it depends on what time of day
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  Speaker 2: you're consuming the alcohol as well. So that's for the
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  Speaker 2: Vests and east point in different spots.
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  Speaker 1: So with the issue at the moment where we have
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  Speaker 1: seemingly got a lot of visitors to the top end
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  Speaker 1: or to Darwin, our larger town centers, Darwin, Alice Springs.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure where the Catherine's in a similar situation.
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  Speaker 2: I think all basically urban centers up and down the
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  Speaker 2: track seeing an increase in people coming in. They've got
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  Speaker 2: more money, they're happy to be mobile, and you know
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  Speaker 2: Dart with Wren down obviously right now doing the interview.
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  Speaker 2: Darwin's a much more interesting place for at this time
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  Speaker 2: of ye particularly for many people.
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  Speaker 1: So what's your message to those out there listening this
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  Speaker 1: morning who are concerned with some visitors arriving in town,
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  Speaker 1: drinking in public, doing the wrong thing.
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  Speaker 2: So doing a lot of work in this space, so
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  Speaker 2: personally having regular conversations Larakia, Nation Police and others about
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  Speaker 2: how we work in with them. We cent a link
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  Speaker 2: as well about making sure that they can access that
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  Speaker 2: return to Country program, find out why they're in town.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes it has been off the back of a reasonable
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  Speaker 2: thing patients assistant, travel scheme, health visit, etc.
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  Speaker 3: And then you break it down.
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  Speaker 2: We've also created the Baton Road Center, which is a
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  Speaker 2: transitional housing spot. So some of it is how do
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  Speaker 2: you get them into the right or better correct accommodation.
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  Speaker 2: Some of us, how do you get them back back
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  Speaker 2: into community. Some of it are you actually meant to
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  Speaker 2: be at the hospital. So there's a lot of reasons
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  Speaker 2: that you need to unpick for why someone is in town.
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  Speaker 4: For a wet camp.
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  Speaker 3: I'm very, very, very supportive of a wet camp.
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  Speaker 2: It's difficult to find a location and difficult to find
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  Speaker 2: an operator Baton Road.
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  Speaker 4: Are you looking for them though, yes.
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  Speaker 2: So we've been having that conversation for a while Baton Road,
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  Speaker 2: So that was part of the conversations building into Baton Road,
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  Speaker 2: which is not a wet camp, but we don't turn
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  Speaker 2: people away. They've had a couple or so it's not
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  Speaker 2: a dry camp either. The problem, obviously is there's a
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  Speaker 2: significant complexity to having a legal license with a wet
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  Speaker 2: camp and someone who wants to operate that, and obviously
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  Speaker 2: the location of where that will go is much more
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  Speaker 2: difficult to nail down as a post to Baton Road.
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  Speaker 2: So that's a much more difficult solution, but it's one
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  Speaker 2: I think will be a good result. I think another
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  Speaker 2: solution that be even better, because a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: do want to drink and legally allowed to drink, but
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  Speaker 2: can't drink back in their home community is if their
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  Speaker 2: support within that local community, it's done the right way
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  Speaker 2: with local decision making, et cetera. I know there's some
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  Speaker 2: communities interested in that they actually have a proper community
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  Speaker 2: club back in their community. We get that decision making power.
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  Speaker 3: Back this year.
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  Speaker 2: Having said that, Minister ken Whytt is actually very supportive
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  Speaker 2: of this as well, I think that will make a
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  Speaker 2: big difference.
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  Speaker 1: How far off are we, do you think from that happening,
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  Speaker 1: because I know that that's something you and I have
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  Speaker 1: spoken about before. I've spoken to the Health Minister, I've
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  Speaker 1: spoken to former senators about it as well.
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  Speaker 2: So we're doing the work parallel to asking that power back.
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  Speaker 2: And there's a number of communities have expressed interest and
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  Speaker 2: there at different different stages again their applications organized, So
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  Speaker 2: obviously it has to come from the community.
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  Speaker 3: We can't do the application for them.
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  Speaker 2: So like I know what Air has been interested out
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  Speaker 2: Brunker Preswick Way that there's interest. So it just depends
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  Speaker 2: on what the work the community does around consultation and
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  Speaker 2: decision making, and then we obviously go through the liqu
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  Speaker 2: Commission process. We can just give them support through that.
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  Speaker 2: We can't do the application for them.
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  Speaker 4: All right, Chief finister. Let's talk about the vaccine rollout.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously, we learned last week that there's a massive hurdle
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  Speaker 1: really with the changes that are coming into play when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to that vaccine. How is it going to
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  Speaker 1: impact us here in the Northern Territory, especially given the
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  Speaker 1: fact that the phiso jab as I understand it, doesn't
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  Speaker 1: it need to be kept at a very low temperature.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so how will you roll that out to community?
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  Speaker 2: So there's no easy answer here today. Going to be
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  Speaker 2: doing a lot of work on that. We've have been
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  Speaker 2: doing a lot of work over the weekend. Going to
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  Speaker 2: be doing a lot of work today. I'll have another
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  Speaker 2: sempse today to discuss them. We'll be meeting a number
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  Speaker 2: of times this week. So probably a couple of things
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  Speaker 2: I can say today. First, I am under fifty, I've
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  Speaker 2: have had the issues a Eger shot and I will
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  Speaker 2: be getting the second shot. That's well, that's probably exclusive
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  Speaker 2: for you KP and said that anyone, Yeah, will definitely
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  Speaker 2: be getting the second shot. So that's tick with Fiser.
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  Speaker 2: Something that I think people don't know well yet is
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  Speaker 2: it must be stored at that.
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  Speaker 3: Incredibly low temperature.
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  Speaker 2: But when you transport and open it you can have
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  Speaker 2: around five days of keeping it at a normal vaccine temperature,
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  Speaker 2: so that that does allow for some transport of pizer.
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  Speaker 3: The problem will be obviously, and this is what we're
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  Speaker 3: going to get.
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  Speaker 2: Some work on over this week, is information around supply,
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: certainty of supply and leg logistic issues with this. We
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: have gone obligation to always have available someone's second shot,
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: so you can't go down the path of giving someone
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: their first shot and not be able to guarantee you
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: the second with fires so that's within three weeks of
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: Astro's ak. It's within twelve weeks, so I won't take
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: my second shot on easy until about late June. So
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: you've got to get you've got to have a significant
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: amount of certainty if that makes sense you, I think
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: peop can understand what we'realking about. Now, go to be
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: guarantee that second shot within three weeks or you can
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: only use half of the supply that you have and
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: hold back half for that for three weeks time. So
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: you've got to get We've got to get some certainty
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: around the details.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: We'll do that work.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: There's right now today no easy answers, but there is
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: a significant amount of significant amount of planning we're going
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: to have to do to recalibrate our plans.
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: Are you anticipating massive delays here?
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: The way that the Prime Minister has described it is
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: it's going to be a bit more like a bell
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: curve exponential now. So obviously we know again those twenty
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: million fires of vaccines last quarter this year, so you're
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: going to see essentially I probably pursue still these tranches
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: in small numbers and then really bring home a large
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: amount of vaccines towards the end of the year. But
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: the strength also I think as of today or yesterday
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: scrapped all the targets for the year. Yes, I'm not
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: sure they're going to give us new targets or not.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: So it's half for me in the absence of that
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: information about give you a real guarantee about what we
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: think will be able to do even within this calendar year.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: I had been planning for a long time. I think
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: we've had this chat when even when it first started
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: eating and we're looking through those border shutdowns you know,
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: and came out in May. I thought by end of
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty one was always my planning, thinking it through,
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: all through of everything I knew even way back then
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: that we'll get ended twenty twenty one and be sort
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: of out that does require the vaccine. So it's hard
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: for me now to plan beyond ender twenty one, but
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: I definitely think we'll be able to do a lot
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: in twenty one. It's a question now whether we get
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: the herd immunity up to enough or not.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Chief Minister, I have got another question here the planet.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: The bowling Alley. We spid extensively about this last week
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: with well with the owner of the bowling Alley, but
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: also with some of the clubs that utilize that bowling alley,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: and there in a situation where they need basically they
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: either need financial assistance or they need a loan to
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: be able to keep that bowling ali in moving to
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: another location, but to keep it running. Should they receive
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: a loan guarantee by the Northern Territory government similar to
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: what was underpinned or what underpinned Silks at the Turf Club.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: So loan guarantees are available, and we've set up now
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: the local Jobs funds through which you can apply for
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: and government can consider a guarantee. It means obviously borrowing
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: the money from potentially to the local Jobs fundal but
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: maybe from a bank, and the government provides a guarantee,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: so there is a process that you can go through.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: We've qualified people to sit through.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: That and make sure making the right scision of territory
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: tax payer money. But I see guarantees as a space
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: that government should, with caution, should get into to.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: Help help people out. And this is this beer.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: They're more than welcome to go through that process. If
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: they're not aware of that, I can get someone to
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: be in touch with them. I do know Minister Warden
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: has been working closely with them about how we may
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: manage it.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I really hope that we're able to come to
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: some kind of solution here for the planet. Because the
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: service that they also provide to those various clubs. I mean,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: if we have a situation where we've got these fantastic
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: young bowlers, those with disabilities and plenty of others who
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: are there not able to travel away and not able
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: to actually train, I think that'd be a real shame. Ye.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: No, I agree, And I'll reach out to double check
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: that they aware of the local Jobs fun path.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: Chief Minister.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: We've got lots of text messages, but I'm going to
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: have to read those out once you're not in the
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: studio because there's too many to get through. Thank you
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: very much for your time this morning, Chief Minister Michael Gunner.
• 18:31
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• 18:33
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• 18:35
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