Latest / Peptides Weekly / Ep 7: A coroner links a 75-year-old's cardiac arrest to CJC-1295 and ipamorelin.
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- 0:00A coroner links the 75-year-olds cardiac arrest to CJC-1295 and Ipa Morellin. This is Peptides Weekly,
- 0:07episode 7, education and evidence, never-dosing advice. After that finding, a U.S. enforcement
- 0:13change on six unapproved peptides, two company diabetes reports, then compounding copies
- 0:19and what published checks actually show. Richard Norton was an Australian actor, stuntman,
- 0:25and fight choreographer. The Guardian reports he went into cardiac arrest in March 2025 after
- 0:31injecting CJC-1295 and Ipa Morellen that a doctor had prescribed even though they were unapproved.
- 0:38Victorian coroner David Ryan treated that sequence as a coronal finding, not as a clinical trial.
- 0:44He was not satisfied those peptides should stay available for medical practitioners to prescribe.
- 0:49In March 2025, Norton asked practitioner Jersey Muchnicki about peptide therapy.
- 0:55The report says they talk through the experimental nature of the treatment, the risks and the absence
- 1:01of therapeutic goods administration approved alternatives.
- 1:04Another practitioner had already prescribed peptides for fatigue, shoulder pain, and
- 1:09loss of muscle mass.
- 1:11Blood tests checked baseline health and contraindications.
- 1:14Norton signed a consent form that listed anaphylaxis among the risks.
- 1:18The injections were prescribed on the 19th of March. Ryan asked the Therapeutic Goods Administration
- 1:24to review benefit and safety. He suggested considering a move from schedule 4, prescription
- 1:29only, to schedule 10, limited to clinical trials or other experimental use. His reason was
- 1:36uncertain therapeutic benefit and safety risks that are not fully known. ABC News frames
- 1:41the death as possibly the first confirmed fatality tied to unapproved peptides. Health and
- 1:47Human Services has now published an enforcement discretion policy.
- 1:51A week after compounding rules were still an open question rather than a finished rule.
- 1:56The BBC reports that Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. released federal registered plans
- 2:02letting compounding pharmacies prepare six peptides the Food and Drug Administration has
- 2:06not approved.
- 2:08Those six are BPC-157, TB-500, KPV, MOT-C, Semmax, and Epitalon.
- 2:16This is a regulatory action, not evidence the drug's work.
- 2:20The draft came from the Health Secretary's Office, not from the FDA.
- 2:24A two-week public comment period follows official publication.
- 2:27An FDA advisory panel voted in July to loosen restrictions, and FDA staff recommended against
- 2:34that step.
- 2:35HHS says it will not pursue state licensed pharmacies, federal facilities, or licensed
- 2:40doctors who compound those six if they meet rules on ingredient quality, manufacturing,
- 2:45monitoring, safety reporting, labeling, and prescriptions written for an individual patient.
- 2:50The policy is temporary while the FDA finishes formal rulemaking on the bulk substance list.
- 2:56Compounders must report serious adverse events and quality problems such as contamination.
- 3:01Compounded drugs are not FDA-approved.
- 3:04Kennedy has called himself a big fan of the drugs and has described using BPC-157 for
- 3:10a muscle injury, which is a personal report, not a study.
- 3:14The partnership for Safe Medicine said the decision leaves a gray area.
- 3:18It said FDA scientists had recommended against the substances because of evidence concerns.
- 3:23It also said many newly appointed pharmacy compounding advisory committee members appear
- 3:28to have conflicts of interest.
- 3:30PSM filed a citizen petition last week urging the FDA to disregard the vote, citing insufficient
- 3:36evidence and arguing the committee was constituted in violation of the Federal Advisory Committee
- 3:41the Act, and the Ethics and Government Act.
- 3:44BBC reporting ads that unregulated injectable peptides are marketed online for unproven
- 3:50uses, including to teenagers, and that experts point to missing human trials and unknown
- 3:55long-term effects.
- 3:57Eli Lilly told Stat its investigational drug Reditrutide was more effective at lowering
- 4:02blood sugar and cutting weight than novel Nordisk's ozempic in a large diabetes study.
- 4:07That is a company report of a head-to-head study in people with diabetes, not a peer-reviewed
- 4:13paper in this week's sources.
- 4:15Retitrutide remains investigational.
- 4:17OZMPIC is the FDA-approved semiglutide brand for type 2 diabetes.
- 4:23Esclidus, in a PR Newswire announcement, reported a placebo-adjusted HBA-1C reduction of 1.7
- 4:29percent at 12 weeks for ASC-30.
- 4:33ASC-30 is an investigational oral small molecule GLP-1.
- 4:37not a peptide. The setting was a U.S. Phase II study in participants with diabetes, and
- 4:43the material here is the company announcement, not an independent journal report. MedScape
- 4:48reports that hair loss associated with GLP-1 receptor agonists appeared similar by race.
- 4:54That framing is an observational association, not a randomized trial, and it does not
- 4:59prove the drugs cause hair loss equally in every group. Also today, a large cohort study
- 5:05observational and not randomized, Link tears epitide to a lower short-term risk of endometrial
- 5:11cancer.
- 5:12In male mice, an animal study, and not a human result, Semaglutide showed an early bone
- 5:17building signal.
- 5:19Medical Republic reports that the peptide-related death has spurred a call for a telehealth inquiry.
- 5:24This week's spotlight is compounding, shortages and copies, and a 2025 search of compounding
- 5:30websites found 33 semaglutide or terzepatide products whose strength, root, or added ingredients
- 5:36differed from FDA-approved versions.
- 5:39That map is a product survey in the annals of pharmacotherapy, not a trial of patients.
- 5:44Compounding means a pharmacy prepares a medicine instead of dispensing the manufacturer's approved
- 5:49product.
- 5:50Shortage rules had been the practical opening for semaglutide and terzepatide copies.
- 5:55Semaglutide is a glucagon-like peptide-1 receptor agonist, a peptide that acts as
- 6:00that receptor. A narrative review in the American Journal of Managed Care states it is FDA-approved
- 6:06as ozemic for type 2 diabetes, and as wagovi for overweight or obesity. Demand, social media
- 6:12attention, shortages and costs then drew both legal and illegal compounded versions. Once the
- 6:18innovator shortage was resolved, the analyst paper says pharmacies could legally sell only unique
- 6:23products, a different route, a different dosing approach, or extra ingredients, not a simple copy.
- 6:29The survey ran from February 3rd to March 20th, 2025.
- 6:34Two-thirds of the 33 products contained semiglutide and one-third contained tersepotide.
- 6:39Forty-eight percent combined one of those drugs with some mix of cyanocabolamine, glycine,
- 6:45niacinamide, docusate, or on dancetron.
- 6:48Of 17 single ingredient products, 82 percent were sublingual and 18 percent were oral
- 6:53disintegrating tablets.
- 6:55Only 18% reported a beyond-use date, and 28% reported preferred storage conditions.
- 7:02The authors found little justification for adding nutrients or docusate sodium to combination
- 7:06subcutaneous products. They saw a rationale for on-dancetron, but not evidence that giving
- 7:12it under the skin works for this purpose. They also saw a rationale for sublingual or
- 7:17disintegrating tablets without a finding that those forms beat innovator oral tablets.
- 7:22Their conclusion is that safety and efficacy of these compounded products are largely unknown.
- 7:28A laboratory analysis, not a human study, tested compounded tersepatide mixed with vitamin B12 analogs from US sources.
- 7:37Expert opinion on drug safety reports a widespread, previously unidentified impurity formed when tersepatide reacts with certain B12 analogs, present at substantial levels.
- 7:47Those combinations had been mass-marketed as comparable to FDA-approved
- 7:52terseptide without evaluation of potency or impurity profiles and sold as
- 7:57personalized treatments. Clinical effects of that impurity are unknown. The
- 8:02chemistry shows a quality defect, not what the defect does in a person. Human
- 8:06evidence in these papers is thinner than the marketing. A retrospective study in
- 8:11diabetes, obesity, and metabolism followed 94 people, 81 women and 13 men,
- 8:16mean age 46.57 years at a commercial wellness studio. They received once
- 8:23weekly compounded semagglutide with cyanokobolamine between June 2023 and
- 8:28January 2024. After three months average weight loss was 4.11 kilograms or 4.57
- 8:36percent. Fat mass fell by 2.67 kilograms and trunk fat by 1.10 kilograms. Lean
- 8:43mass fell by 1.43 kilograms and skeletal muscle mass by 0.88 kilograms.
- 8:50As a share of total weight, fat mass decreased while the proportions of lean mass and skeletal
- 8:55muscle increased.
- 8:56That study is observational and uncontrolled, not a randomized comparison with FDA-approved
- 9:02semagglutide, and it cannot show the compounded product matches the approved drug.
- 9:07Harms appear in a case series in the Journal of the American Pharmacist Association.
- 9:113 adverse event reports reached a regional poison control center after incorrect administration
- 9:16of semi-glutide obtained for weight loss from compounding pharmacies and an aesthetic spa.
- 9:222 patients self-administered 10-fold dosing errors.
- 9:25All 3 had nausea, vomiting, and abdominal pain, with most symptoms lasting days.
- 9:31One also had headache, anorexia, weakness, and fatigue.
- 9:35One sought care and responded to an anti-emetic and intravenous fluids.
- 9:38One received a vial and syringes with no pharmacist counseling.
- 9:43One reported measuring in milliliters and units rather than milligrams.
- 9:47The author's note that vials lack the safety features of pre-filled manufactured pens
- 9:51and can allow large overdoses.
- 9:54The American Journal of Managed Care Review, narrative rather than new patient data, adds
- 9:59that marketed compounded semi-glutide may lack historical quality controls and that fraudulent
- 10:04batches have appeared worldwide.
- 10:06No paper here shows a compounded copy has the potency, impurity profile, or clinical effect
- 10:12of ozempic, wagovii, or approved tirsepatide.
- 10:16Advantage of those sublingual or disintegrating compounded tablets over approved oral tablets
- 10:21are not determined.
- 10:23The 94-person weight change is not proof of safety or equivalence, and three poison center
- 10:28cases cannot estimate how often errors occur.
- 10:30Ozempic and Wagovi remain the FDA-approved semiglutide products for the uses named above.
- 10:36The compounded semiglutide and tear-zepetide products in these papers are not FDA-approved.
- 10:42After the innovator shortage resolved, only unique products were described as legally
- 10:46sellable by compounding pharmacies.
- 10:49Unapproved combinations carry purity, contamination, dosing error, and fraud risks that approved
- 10:54pens were built to limit.
- 10:56One thing worth knowing is that a coroner's finding, not a trial, treated prescribed CJC-1295
- 11:03and Ipa Morellen as unapproved drugs with uncertain benefit and incompletely known risk.
- 11:09Company reports on redotrutide and on oral ASC-30 are early human signals and diabetes,
- 11:15not settled comparative evidence.
- 11:17People given compounded semiglutide outside a trial lost weight and also lost some lean
- 11:22and muscle mass, an observational pattern rather than a randomized result for an approved
- 11:26pen.
- 11:27A three-patient case series shows vial and syringe compounded semaglutide can be measured
- 11:32wrong, with days of nausea, vomiting, and pain, which is a harm signal and not a rate.
- 11:38That's peptides weekly.
- 11:40This show is education, not medical advice.
- 11:43Talk to your own clinician before acting on anything you heard.
- 11:46I'm Patrick in Vancouver.
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