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Credlin | 6 June · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krendland live on sky Ingins Australia.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, Steve Price in for Peter Kredlin.
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Speaker 2: I'll be back with you, of course for our regular
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Speaker 2: Friday night program at six tomorrow night.
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Speaker 1: I'll have some more on that.
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Speaker 2: Issue involving extraordinary vision that's emerged this afternoon of the
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Speaker 2: Channel nine chairman Peter Costello in a confrontation with Leam Mendez,
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Speaker 2: a reporter from the Australian newspaper. I'll have more on
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Speaker 2: that with media writer Sophie Ellsworth at the top of
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Speaker 2: the program. Lots to talk about in that incident. It
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Speaker 2: just does not look good for the chairman of Channel nine,
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Speaker 2: Peter Costello. Now it's about time someone called out Green's
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Speaker 2: leader Adam Banton is gas lighting around the terror attacks
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Speaker 2: of October seven on Israel. I'll have more on that
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Speaker 2: with our panel coming up later in the program. Also tonight,
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Speaker 2: eighty years ago today the biggest military invasion of World
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Speaker 2: War II, so Allied troops storm the beaches of Normandy,
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Speaker 2: including more than three thousand Australians attached the RAF and
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Speaker 2: the British Army will pay tribute to the veterans tonight
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Speaker 2: and that extraordinary, extraordinary day eighty years ago. Major piece
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Speaker 2: in the Wall Street Journal too overnight, seeming to confirm
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Speaker 2: what most of us have been witnessing for a couple
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Speaker 2: of years.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: US President Joe Biden looks to be suffering from dementia.
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Speaker 2: With a presidential election out of six months away. The
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Speaker 2: White House, of course, will deny it. That the Pitchers
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Speaker 2: really don't lie. We'll look at that as well. Plus
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Speaker 2: an ABC Radio their ratings continue to plummet. A staff
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Speaker 2: survey today has revealed claims of sexual abuse and bullying,
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Speaker 2: and it says they're rampant at the National Broadcaster. That's
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Speaker 2: another story for Soviet Ellsworth to get stuck into. But first,
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Speaker 2: as rumors swirled late today around the future of the
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Speaker 2: NDIS Minister Bill Shorten and a possible ambassadorial posting to France,
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Speaker 2: as reported by Sam Maiden at News dot com dot Au,
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Speaker 2: you'd hope he read an exclusive report today himself in
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Speaker 2: The Herald's son Now as Susi O'Brien reports the disturbing
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Speaker 2: case of an NDIS client only identified in the newspaper
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Speaker 2: as boy why, but quoting at length the young boy's mother,
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Speaker 2: these details I must say and warn you are horrific.
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Speaker 2: Boy Why's care is being funded by NDIS, which is
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Speaker 2: us the taxpayer, So the tune of two million dollars
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Speaker 2: a year, two carers are paid to deliver twenty four
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Speaker 2: hour around the clock care for this troubled young man.
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Speaker 2: He is severely disabled, suffering chronosomal deletion disorder. He's got
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Speaker 2: a low IQ, he suffers with autism ADHD and a
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Speaker 2: condition described as explosive disorder. Boy Why is one of
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Speaker 2: just a handful of children He's fifteen, who has cared
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Speaker 2: for in his own reinforced home away from his family
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Speaker 2: due to his complex disabilities. His two million dollar NDIS
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Speaker 2: care bill includes a one point two million dollar NDS
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Speaker 2: care package and eight hundred thousand dollars funding from the
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Speaker 2: South Australian Government which comes out of NDIS that pays
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Speaker 2: for food, utilities, mental health and school services. Astounding numbers,
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Speaker 2: But as Susie reports, it's what has happened to Boy
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Speaker 2: Why that should have everybody, including the Minister Bill Shorten,
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Speaker 2: asking some hard questions here. In two years, boy Way
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Speaker 2: has been involved in five hundred critical incidents. At one
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Speaker 2: point he stole car keys, belonging to a care and
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Speaker 2: drove around for an hour on a busy highway at
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Speaker 2: peak hour in a Honda Sedan in February before crashing.
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Speaker 1: Into a building. He's fifteen.
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Speaker 2: His mother claims there are routine failures of care with
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Speaker 2: zero ramifications. That's a problem. She told the Herald Son.
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Speaker 2: She was begging for help to keep her son safe.
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Speaker 2: She claims on one occasion, staff paid to care for
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Speaker 2: him sat in their car while he went to a
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Speaker 2: skatepark hanging out with the group, allegedly drinking and smoking.
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Speaker 2: She says he has had five near death incidents, including
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Speaker 2: a near miss electrocution and attempts to swallow glass and
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Speaker 2: running on to a busy freeway. His mother further claims
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Speaker 2: to the Herald Son that providers charge up to one
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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars an hour to the NDIS, and
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Speaker 2: yet they underpay qualified workers with no qualifications far less. Look,
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Speaker 2: this is an extreme example, of course, but don't for
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Speaker 2: a moment think it is unique. It might be at
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Speaker 2: the very bad end of the scale. But this scheme,
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Speaker 2: as we've all heard this week, is failing. It's being rauted,
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Speaker 2: and it's sending the nation broke. So what did Shorten's
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Speaker 2: office tell a herald Son in response to the claims
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Speaker 2: from this mother, Well, the mother is trying to meet
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Speaker 2: mister Shorton. By the way, his office said, this has
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Speaker 2: been an extremely challenging matter since the participants started on
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Speaker 2: the scheme in twenty fourteen. So he went on the
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Speaker 2: scheme in his five Everyone has done everything they can
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Speaker 2: to help. But as well as being extremely complex, the
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Speaker 2: child has very challenging family relationships. Okay, it's a disability
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Speaker 2: challenge as hard as they come. But surely that's what
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Speaker 2: the NDIS was designed to do. They need to do
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Speaker 2: better for this family and let's hope the mum actually
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Speaker 2: gets to see the minister.
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Speaker 1: Let's head to.
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Speaker 2: Cameron now for tonight's political headlines with Sky News political
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Speaker 2: reporter Cameron Good.
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Speaker 3: Evening, both major parties have scaled up their criticism of
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Speaker 3: the Greens, accusing the minor party of spreading misinformation about
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Speaker 3: Australia's position on the Gaza conflict.
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Speaker 4: They've said we're selling weapons to Israel when we're not.
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Speaker 5: They say that we support genocide.
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Speaker 6: It is beyond my comprehension why anyone in this place
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Speaker 6: would seek to suggest that Australia were participants in a conflict.
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Speaker 7: When we are not.
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Speaker 8: We are not going to be lectured to by a
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Speaker 8: prime minister that backs the invasion of Gars.
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Speaker 3: The opposition leader going further on radio.
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Speaker 9: People need to have a conversation with their kids and
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Speaker 9: their grandkids, with their next door neighbors just about how
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Speaker 9: evil the current Green's Party is. Adam Bant I think
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Speaker 9: is unfit to be in public office.
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Speaker 3: The government facing calls to rule out any future political
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Speaker 3: deals with the minor party.
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Speaker 9: Will the Prime Minister rule out governing with the support
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Speaker 9: of the Greens.
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Speaker 6: The Australian Labor Party proudly does not governing coalition with
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Speaker 6: any political party, nor will.
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Speaker 10: We in the future.
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Speaker 3: The dispute could soon move from Parliament to the courtroom.
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Speaker 3: The Green's leader, Adam Bands, is threatening to sue the
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Speaker 3: Attorney General for defamation.
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Speaker 8: I would prefer not to have to pursue these matters legally.
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Speaker 3: A legal letter was sent to Mark Dreyfuss over claims
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Speaker 3: he made on the ABC about the Green's leader and
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Speaker 3: the involvement of party members with protests at MP's offices.
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Speaker 7: Staff have been injured at these blockade.
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Speaker 5: Greensy in peace haven't been involved in that.
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Speaker 3: The Attorney General has been approached for comment but is
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Speaker 3: yet to respond. The National Anti Corruption Commission has decided
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Speaker 3: not to investigate six public officials over their involvement in
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Speaker 3: the Robodette scheme. The officials, whose identities are not public,
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Speaker 3: were referred to the NACH following a scathing Robodette Royal
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Speaker 3: Commission almost a year on the knack, decided those officials
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Speaker 3: conduct has already been fully explored by that Royal Commission.
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Speaker 3: Adding a further probe would not add value in the
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Speaker 3: public interest. Cameron Reddin's Sky News Canberra.
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Speaker 1: Good on you, Cam, thank you very much for that.
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Speaker 2: Well, this story has just been breaking your sort on
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Speaker 2: Chris Kenny last hour. It involves the former treasurer and
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Speaker 2: the CHIEMLA Channel nine. Peter Costello joining me now in
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Speaker 2: the studio. The Australian is very good timing the Australians
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Speaker 2: Media writer Sophie Ellsworth and Deputy Executive Director of the
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Speaker 2: Institute of Public Affairs Daniel Wild Welcome to you both now.
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Speaker 2: Sophie First, as we've seen in the last half an
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Speaker 2: hour or so, the Australian newspaper's put up extraordinary vision
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Speaker 2: of the Channel nine chairman Peter Costello. It's been involved
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Speaker 2: in a dispute with the Australian journalist Liam Mendez. You've
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Speaker 2: reported on this in the Australian. This happened at Canberra Airport.
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Speaker 2: The reporter was trying to question mister Costello about the
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Speaker 2: ongoing Christis Facing nine and the departure of former news
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Speaker 2: director Darren Wick. Let's have a look at that vision again.
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Speaker 11: Mister Cassello, my name is Leiam Mendez from the Australian.
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Speaker 11: Do you support mister sneezeby as CEO and his handling
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Speaker 11: of the Darren Wick saga? Were you aware of the
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Speaker 11: allegations against mister Wick before he left nine? Thank you?
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Speaker 11: Were you aware of those allegations? Mister Costello? Why won't
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Speaker 11: you support mister sneezebe publicly?
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Speaker 1: Goodness?
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Speaker 11: Well, you've got to answer the questions, mister Castello. Don't
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Speaker 11: you've just assaulted You've just assaulted me. It's very bad.
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Speaker 11: It's quite violent behavior of sidon channel the full support
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Speaker 11: of your board. Journalists who worked for nine approach people
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Speaker 11: in this manner every day and you attacked me.
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Speaker 2: Dercent Well, the problem for Peter Costello here is that
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Speaker 2: there were witnesses at least two or three who've confirmed
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Speaker 2: that he aggressively approached Liam Mendes. We've got the vision
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Speaker 2: there from Liam himself, plus there's some other go pro vision.
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Speaker 2: Peter Costello is going to have to come out and
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Speaker 2: explain why he felt it necessary to physically get into
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Speaker 2: the face of Liam Mendes particularly, I think and Mendez
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Speaker 2: made a very good point. I mean, we've all lived
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Speaker 2: with the current affair for our whole lives. Channel nine,
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Speaker 2: the company he's the chairman of, sends Camerman out, camera
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Speaker 2: men and women out every day of the week doing
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Speaker 2: exactly that. Is he He is in a bit of
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Speaker 2: strife here, isn't he.
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Speaker 12: Well, just to set a few things straight, Liam Mendees,
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Speaker 12: a very good reporter at The Australian, was doing his
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Speaker 12: job today that all of us in this meet industry
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Speaker 12: due and he sought to seek answers from Chairman Peter
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Speaker 12: Costello Steve because he has not spoken publicly since his
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Speaker 12: Whole nine saga was broken by us in The Australian
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Speaker 12: regarding Darren Wick. So he was asking Peter Costello these
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Speaker 12: questions about whether he supports his CEO.
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Speaker 5: Now we can see in that footage there is some contact.
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Speaker 12: The footage speaks for itself, but this now warrants answers
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Speaker 12: from nine. We've contacted Nine before the show to see
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Speaker 12: what they have to say about this. This is pretty
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Speaker 12: you know, damning footage that we've just seen and I
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Speaker 12: think it warrants a response from nine and also missed
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Speaker 12: a Costello to find.
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Speaker 5: Out exactly what took place.
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Speaker 12: But as you can see there's plenty of vision and
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Speaker 12: footage from the incident where Liam was just going about
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Speaker 12: his job as a journalist.
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Speaker 2: It goes to the point of the amount of pressure
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Speaker 2: Daniel that the chairman of nine must be under. I
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Speaker 2: mean to react in the way that it appears he's reacted,
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Speaker 2: would show that the questions that he was asked by
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Speaker 2: the reporter from the Australian Amendees obstructor struck a nerve.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, look, clearly this is not a good look. And
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Speaker 4: as you identify, Peter Costello and nine more generally have
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Speaker 4: been under the blow torch in recent days, so perhaps
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Speaker 4: the pressure starting to get to them. So I think
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Speaker 4: that we'll await to see what Peter Costello has to
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Speaker 4: say about that. But on the face of it, not
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Speaker 4: a good look.
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Speaker 2: Let's ever listen to what one of the witnesses, who
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Speaker 2: was in the terminal at the time this happened, had
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Speaker 2: to say, you saw that.
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Speaker 11: I'm just filming because I'm trying to So you saw
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Speaker 11: you saw that?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he like pitting about here.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, wats your fall over there? I was
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Speaker 1: just sayt there going to smoke on.
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Speaker 11: The phone, okay, yeah, I just saw it'd been shacking up.
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Speaker 6: What was that about?
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Speaker 11: So obviously said something that I'm just asking questions about
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Speaker 11: the Mike sneezee thing. So I'm from the Australian and yeah,
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Speaker 11: I thought like he's trying to he was trying to
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Speaker 11: say that I walked into there, but.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we saw it.
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Speaker 2: It's pretty clear the witnesses there are describing what they saw.
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Speaker 2: I mean, when you look at the vision and we've
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Speaker 2: now seen it three or four times. And I'm not
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Speaker 2: an investigator and this might in fact end up in
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Speaker 2: the hands of the police. But the former treasurer, a
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Speaker 2: longest serving treasure in the Howard government, very prominent Australian,
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Speaker 2: now chairs one of the biggest media companies in the
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Speaker 2: Country seems to drop his right shoulder into Mendez who
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Speaker 2: was in front of him, and then laughed about it.
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Speaker 12: Well, Steve, this all has to play out now because this,
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Speaker 12: you know, is pretty serious what we've seen in this footage.
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Speaker 5: But when you've got nine coming out and saying.
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Speaker 12: You need to cherry your staff better, they've got claims
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Speaker 12: of sexual harassation, change, cultural change. They've been very strong
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Speaker 12: on this since they we've broken that story about the
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Speaker 12: conduct that is alleged allegations going against their news boss.
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Speaker 12: This is a media company that you know, chases people,
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Speaker 12: as you said, has programs that chase people for content
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Speaker 12: all the time. Peter Costello is the big boss of
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Speaker 12: a media company. He knows how media works. So, as
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Speaker 12: Daniel said, this is not a good look.
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Speaker 2: And a company where female reporters have gone to Shari
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Speaker 2: Markson on the understanding an onimity and describe the bully
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Speaker 2: boy culture within nine. Now, that doesn't help when you
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Speaker 2: try if you're the chair of a company that's trying
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Speaker 2: to change its culture, shirt fronting, Let's be clear, shirt
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Speaker 2: fronting a reporter in a public airport doesn't do much
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Speaker 2: for your cultural change.
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Speaker 12: Well, I don't want to go into the ins and
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Speaker 12: outs of the videos. I'm happy to you can, Steve,
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Speaker 12: but we've got it there. Who knows where this will land,
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Speaker 12: but I will work mandays.
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Speaker 2: He didn't say anything to Peter Costello that I can hear,
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Speaker 2: unless it was off camera or not turned on. He
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Speaker 2: didn't say anything to warrant that behavior.
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Speaker 12: He was absolutely doing his job leading Mendez is an
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Speaker 12: excellent He was asking mister Costello very important questions. Mister
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Speaker 12: Costello has not spoken out publicly. We've contacted him numerous
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Speaker 12: times over recent weeks. Nine now have a very serious situation.
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Speaker 5: That they need to deal with.
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Speaker 12: And I also wonder what's going to be the conversations
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Speaker 12: inside nine tonight. What's the board at nine going to say,
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Speaker 12: what's management going to say?
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Speaker 5: Because this is involving their.
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Speaker 12: Most important person, top of the tree in this company.
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Speaker 2: If it was any other executive at nine, you'd think
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Speaker 2: they'd be shown the door immediately.
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Speaker 1: Well, we'll leave it at that. We might come back
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Speaker 1: to it a bit later now.
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Speaker 2: Today, moving on to federal politics, we saw Adam Bant
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Speaker 2: threatening to sue the Attorney General Mark dreyfussover comments that
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Speaker 2: Dreyfus made outside Parliament about pro Palestinian rallies. Now, this
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Speaker 2: was of course after the PM and Peter Dutton yesterday
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Speaker 2: showed a pretty unified front in Parliament condemning the Greens
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Speaker 2: for their position. Have a listen to what both of
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Speaker 2: them said in question time yesterday.
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Speaker 9: People need to have a conversation with their kids and
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Speaker 9: their grandkids, with their next door neighbors just about how
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Speaker 9: evil the current Green's Party is. That they're nothing about
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Speaker 9: the environment, They're all about radical causes and somehow Adam Bant,
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Speaker 9: who I think is unfit to be in public office,
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Speaker 9: he has led a party now that is central to
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Speaker 9: what we're seeing on campuses and the distribution of hate
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Speaker 9: and nanty simitica messages online, the chanting of river to
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Speaker 9: the sea in the Fara etc.
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Speaker 2: Apologies Daniel, that was on Ray Hadley today. But Dutton
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Speaker 2: and Albaneza yesterday singing from the same hymn book in Parliament.
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Speaker 2: What do you think of Adam Bant and where are
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Speaker 2: the Greens going? They seem to have ended up being.
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Speaker 1: Just a radical left protest party.
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Speaker 2: I mean Bob Brown started the Greens because they were
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Speaker 2: worried about the Franklin.
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Speaker 1: Dan that's right.
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Speaker 4: This is not your grandma's Greens Party. I don't always
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Speaker 4: agree with what Bob Brown and the Greens used to do,
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Speaker 4: but at least they were legitimate about their concerns about
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Speaker 4: the environment and conservation. But now they are a radical force,
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Speaker 4: the anti freedom, anti democratic, anti Australian. What are they
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Speaker 4: believing or they believe in wok ideology which divides us.
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Speaker 4: They believe in these radical climate goals which are not
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Speaker 4: just uneconomic, they're bad for the environment, littering the environment
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Speaker 4: with solar panels, turbines and transmission lines, and you look
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Speaker 4: at their Palestinian stance is absolutely deplorable. So I think
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Speaker 4: good on Peter Dutton and also Anthony Albineasi for calling
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Speaker 4: this out because we need leadership, because Australians need to
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Speaker 4: understand just how radical the Greens really are.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to shock you both, but I've confessed
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Speaker 2: this before in a column. I once voted for the Greens.
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Speaker 2: It was a very long time ago. How long had
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Speaker 2: I was living, it would have been twenty years ago.
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Speaker 2: I don't know why, but I just had a rush
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Speaker 2: of blood to my head on election day. I apologize
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Speaker 2: for that, but in the Parliament today, the PM would not,
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Speaker 2: as we expect, he wouldn't. He wouldn't guarantee that they
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Speaker 2: would put the Greens last in any deal on preferences
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Speaker 2: at an election, because he may end up having to
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Speaker 2: do deals with them.
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Speaker 12: So well, absolutely, and it could be political suicide if
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Speaker 12: they do that. So I think they're trying to tread
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Speaker 12: a very careful line here, Steve, because it could come
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Speaker 12: back and bite them. And it's very interesting to see
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Speaker 12: how this plays out.
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Speaker 5: But it could get very ugly very quickly.
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Speaker 2: But Daniel, I mean, of course, with the Teals and
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Speaker 2: other independents that have left the Conservative Parties on the
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Speaker 2: cross bench now, he probably doesn't have to deal as
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Speaker 2: much if he was in minority government Albanize. It'd be
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Speaker 2: a bit like wouldn't it, Julia Gillard dealing with Rob
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Speaker 2: Oakshott and Tony Windsor and Bob Catter.
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Speaker 1: It would be more like that.
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Speaker 10: Well, it could be.
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Speaker 4: But whether it's a deal with the Teals or the Greens,
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Speaker 4: it doesn't look good for the country's future. I mean,
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Speaker 4: just look at what these.
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Speaker 1: That's the worst possible result.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, and that's what the most likely result is
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Speaker 4: at the present moment, and just look at what they support.
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Speaker 4: It's not just we can't use our colon gas, but
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Speaker 4: we can't export it. Where there's a two hundred and
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Speaker 4: seventy four billion dollar hit right there. They want to
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Speaker 4: increase taxes by one hundred and fifty billion through removing
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Speaker 4: concessions and negative gearing and so forth. If you think
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Speaker 4: our education system's bad, now, just wait until Adam Band
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Speaker 4: or Menique Ryan have their hands on that portfolio. So
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Speaker 4: I think all Australians should really be thinking hard at
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Speaker 4: this election about whether they want to go through a
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Speaker 4: minority government period. Again, don't forget Anthony Abernezi was central
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Speaker 4: to the negotiation back in twenty ten of that minority
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Speaker 4: government and that was a disaster for Australia and this
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Speaker 4: will be much worse.
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Speaker 2: Shakhra Sophie the Wall Street Journal, and they've spent a
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Speaker 2: year on this story, apparently asking various Democrats and Republicans
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Speaker 2: what it's like to go into a meeting with Joe
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Speaker 2: Biden and what did they find, Oh, he might have dementia.
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Speaker 1: Who would have thought, well.
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Speaker 5: He has got quite a few issues.
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Speaker 12: Steve, when he's definitely in front of the public, he
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Speaker 12: stumbles over his words, He gets facts and vigors wrong.
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Speaker 12: He falls up, sticks, falls up, says, calls his own
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Speaker 12: children the wrong names, and I.
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Speaker 1: Shouldn't laugh, and it's sad.
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Speaker 5: I think. I think he's a problem.
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Speaker 2: Democrats need to runt up and so this bloke can't
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Speaker 2: do it.
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Speaker 5: Steve.
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Speaker 12: Sometimes it feels like this is a case of elder abuse.
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Speaker 12: I mean sometimes it is looking at Joe Biden going
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Speaker 12: I just don't think this is okay that he's up there.
19:20
Speaker 5: He doesn't seem to know what he's saying.
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Speaker 2: Sometimes, Daniel, should he take a cognitive test before the election.
19:26
Speaker 4: I don't think it needs to take a test to mean.
19:27
Speaker 4: People can just look and make up their own mind.
19:30
Speaker 4: What we need to have a proper debates and a
19:31
Speaker 4: proper contest, which we didn't get in twenty twenty because
19:34
Speaker 4: of COVID. Now that helped Biden because he didn't have
19:36
Speaker 4: to campaign and Trump couldn't campaign.
19:38
Speaker 10: Now they're trying to keep Trump out.
19:39
Speaker 4: Of it with these with these charges that he's going through,
19:42
Speaker 4: and they know the only way that the Democrats can
19:44
Speaker 4: possibly win is if there is no debate.
19:47
Speaker 1: One way candidates in jail.
19:48
Speaker 2: The other one is doing tests to see what he's got,
19:52
Speaker 2: Tom your Oh it just biggers believe. The ABC radio
19:56
Speaker 2: ratings out this week in Melbourne, in particular, they dropped
19:59
Speaker 2: to again, you know, I like the people involved, but
20:03
Speaker 2: it doesn't work five percent rating in breakfasts as low
20:06
Speaker 2: as it's ever been. When I was running through out
20:08
Speaker 2: w they were rating the ABC was rating thirteen fourteen percent.
20:11
Speaker 2: And then a survey gets leaked today about how there's
20:14
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of bullying and sexual harassment inside the ABC,
20:19
Speaker 2: who lecture to us all the time about how that
20:22
Speaker 2: shouldn't happen.
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Speaker 5: Well, Steve, what's interesting.
20:24
Speaker 12: First, through the radio armies they had a massive overhaul.
20:27
Speaker 12: Now when I say massive overhaul, they did a lot
20:29
Speaker 12: of seat shuffling, but they did change management quite significantly.
20:34
Speaker 5: It is not worked.
20:35
Speaker 12: They appear that they are not working resonating with their
20:38
Speaker 12: audience because the audience are turning off they're going to
20:41
Speaker 12: other programs. Secondly, the sexual harassment allegations of bullying.
20:46
Speaker 5: Look, this doesn't look good for the ABC.
20:48
Speaker 12: There's hundreds of people coming forward saying claims of poor
20:52
Speaker 12: treatment in the workplace. So now they've got this work
20:54
Speaker 12: cut out for them to try and fix what appears
20:57
Speaker 12: to be quite a few problems withinside the public broadcasts.
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Speaker 2: I mean the problem is they're chasing a younger audience,
21:03
Speaker 2: so they put comedians on in breakfast in Sydney and Melbourne.
21:07
Speaker 2: The ABC audience, I'll give them some free programming advice.
21:11
Speaker 2: The bulk of their audience are over the age of sixty.
21:14
Speaker 2: They listen to the ABC for one reason. They don't
21:16
Speaker 2: like ads, and what they don't like is being treated
21:19
Speaker 2: like fools with people in breakfast who don't understand who
21:22
Speaker 2: they're talking to. I mean, they need to get back
21:24
Speaker 2: to the good old days of being a national broadcast
21:26
Speaker 2: and breaking national news and they're entertaining people.
21:30
Speaker 4: I agree, but sadly those days are over, Steve. And
21:33
Speaker 4: like their audience is largely habituator to watching the ABC,
21:36
Speaker 4: the only watch will listen to it because that's what
21:38
Speaker 4: they have always done. It's not necessarily because they're left
21:40
Speaker 4: wing or right wing. And look, their audience also doesn't
21:44
Speaker 4: like being called racist.
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Speaker 1: Steve.
21:45
Speaker 4: You know that's another thing that hasn't quite tweaked with
21:48
Speaker 4: with the management of ABC. Maybe don't call the country
21:50
Speaker 4: racist and maybe your ratings will actually go up and
21:52
Speaker 4: not down.
21:52
Speaker 2: Absolutely, thank you both. Updates on Peter Castillo and this
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Speaker 2: Drada tonight.
21:57
Speaker 5: Yes, we will be good on you.
21:58
Speaker 2: Thank thanks Sophie and Daniel. He's a pleasure to have
22:00
Speaker 2: you in. Next to rare show of unity. As we
22:03
Speaker 2: mentioned in Parliament yesterday, Labor and the College are combined
22:05
Speaker 2: to condemn the Greens over their silence of Palestine, but
22:09
Speaker 2: it was short lived after the government shut down a
22:11
Speaker 2: judicial inquiry into anti Semitism on university campuses.
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Speaker 1: More on that with Andrew.
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Speaker 2: Wallace up next. Welcome back to Steve Price in for
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Speaker 2: Peter Now. Yesterday I showed you some fairly rare scenes.
22:26
Speaker 2: I think I describe it as rare anyway, Anthony Ibanez
22:29
Speaker 2: and Peter Dutton actually agreed on something and joined forces
22:33
Speaker 2: in parliament.
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Speaker 6: Have a look here in Australia, every one of us
22:37
Speaker 6: has a responsibility to keep our community safe. Our social
22:40
Speaker 6: cohesion is a national asset that all of us have
22:44
Speaker 6: built and all of us have a responsibility to uphold
22:47
Speaker 6: and defend. It is unacceptable that misinformation has been consciously
22:52
Speaker 6: and deliberately spread by some Green senators and mpeace.
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Speaker 8: What the Prime Minister does today in condemning the actions
22:59
Speaker 8: of those who seek for their own political purposes and
23:04
Speaker 8: their own political advancement, to poor fuel on this by
23:09
Speaker 8: I deserve condemnation of this chamber.
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Speaker 2: Well, the target there was Green's leader Adam Bann. I
23:14
Speaker 2: thought Peter Dutton was much stronger than Anthony Albanesi.
23:17
Speaker 1: He was actually a little long spoke.
23:19
Speaker 2: For a little longer, and you saw earlier the interview
23:22
Speaker 2: he did today with Ray Hadley on t GB where
23:25
Speaker 2: he called the Greens evil. Now the camaraderie was pretty
23:28
Speaker 2: short lived because today Labor shut down a parliamentary debate
23:32
Speaker 2: on a coalition push to establish a judicial inquiry into
23:36
Speaker 2: anti semitism on university campuses. Now, I would have thought
23:40
Speaker 2: that that was something that could also be pro rut
23:43
Speaker 2: They should have all agreed to do that. Now these
23:47
Speaker 2: pros have been going on for weeks for more. We're
23:49
Speaker 2: joined by an LMP member for Fisher and chair of
23:52
Speaker 2: the Australia Israel Allies Caucus, Andrew Wallace. Andrew, good to
23:56
Speaker 2: see you again. I would have thought a joint agreeman
23:59
Speaker 2: into looking at anti semitism on the university campuses, dragging
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Speaker 2: the chancellors and vice chancellors in asking them questions about
24:09
Speaker 2: why they let this stuff go on for so long.
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Speaker 2: Would have been a sensible thing to do.
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Speaker 8: Here, you'd think, so, Steve, Look what we saw yesterday was.
24:19
Speaker 10: A good thing.
24:20
Speaker 8: It was eight months too late from the Prime Minister
24:22
Speaker 8: to be actually showing some political leadership. I think twenty
24:25
Speaker 8: seven million people, twenty seven men Australians would have liked
24:29
Speaker 8: to have seen that political leadership.
24:30
Speaker 1: Eight months ago, but better late than never. It was
24:33
Speaker 1: good to.
24:33
Speaker 8: See it from the Prime Minister yesterday, but it was
24:35
Speaker 8: very short lived this morning when my mate Julian Lisa
24:38
Speaker 8: moved an emotion to suspend standing orders to bring on
24:42
Speaker 8: a bill for a judicial inquiry in relation to anti
24:45
Speaker 8: Semitism on campuses. Now, what we saw from Labor today,
24:50
Speaker 8: what we saw from the Prime Minister was that that
24:54
Speaker 8: bipartisanship ended, didn't. It lasted overnight and then by this
24:59
Speaker 8: morning it was all because they blocked that motion to
25:03
Speaker 8: bring on that debate. And I mean, what we have
25:06
Speaker 8: seen on university campuses has been an absolute disgrace. We've
25:11
Speaker 8: seen very very poor leadership from our university vice chancellors
25:16
Speaker 8: and we need a judicial inquiry to get to the
25:18
Speaker 8: bottom of how it's happened, how it's been allowed to
25:22
Speaker 8: continue to happen, and the alternative that the government has
25:26
Speaker 8: been putting up a two year long inquiry run by
25:30
Speaker 8: the Australian Human Rights Commission, is an absolute joke. And
25:34
Speaker 8: Julian was right to press it this morning, and unfortunately
25:38
Speaker 8: it didn't get up.
25:41
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're in the house when he spoke,
25:43
Speaker 2: but I've seen some vision today. Can you describe to me? Yeah,
25:48
Speaker 2: can you describe to me how? Because it was really
25:52
Speaker 2: very touching. I mean, he got very emotional, didn't he
25:56
Speaker 2: he did.
25:57
Speaker 8: I was sitting right next to him. Julian and I
25:59
Speaker 8: are flat mates. We talked about this last night and
26:04
Speaker 8: I spoke on the motion as well. Look, Julian is
26:08
Speaker 8: an incredible an incredible man. He is a man of
26:11
Speaker 8: great conviction. He is the only Jewish member of the
26:18
Speaker 8: Liberal Party in Federal Parliament. And look, I don't agree
26:22
Speaker 8: with everything that Julian does and says, particularly his stance
26:25
Speaker 8: on the voice, but no one could fault Julian for
26:29
Speaker 8: someone who stands by his convictions. And he spoke brilliantly
26:33
Speaker 8: this morning and it was just such a shame. It
26:36
Speaker 8: was a missed opportunity from labor to actually continue the
26:41
Speaker 8: fine words that the Prime Minister said yesterday. But look,
26:44
Speaker 8: Peter Dutton is often saying, don't judge labor by what
26:47
Speaker 8: they say, judge them by what they do. And they
26:51
Speaker 8: failed at the first hurdle this morning.
26:55
Speaker 2: Andrew, let's zero in on the Greens. They obviously have
26:57
Speaker 2: been backing recognition of Palestine as a state. They've called
27:00
Speaker 2: for Australia to end the trade of military equipment. I
27:04
Speaker 2: was interested to see in question time today that Prime
27:06
Speaker 2: Minister and the Deputy Prime Minister both explained to the Greens,
27:10
Speaker 2: who don't bother to do their homework, that we're not
27:13
Speaker 2: supplying military equipment. We've got some equipment, they're being repaired.
27:17
Speaker 2: The Greens were described by your leader today as being evil.
27:23
Speaker 2: That's strong words.
27:24
Speaker 1: Do you agree with him?
27:26
Speaker 8: I do, I do, And look, I would absolutely say
27:30
Speaker 8: to people who are considering or who have voted for
27:35
Speaker 8: the Greens at previous elections and are thinking about voting
27:37
Speaker 8: for them again at the next election, the Greens under
27:40
Speaker 8: Adam Bandt are not the Greens of ten, fifteen, twenty
27:44
Speaker 8: years ago. The Greens, you know, once upon a time,
27:47
Speaker 8: used to be a party for conservation.
27:49
Speaker 9: Now they are a.
27:50
Speaker 8: Party for radical ideas. They want to abolish the alliance
27:55
Speaker 8: with the United States. They want to decimate the Australian
27:58
Speaker 8: Defense Force at a time when we are at our
28:01
Speaker 8: most geopolitically unstable since nineteen forty five, and they want
28:06
Speaker 8: to decimate the ADF. I mean, the ADF is doing
28:09
Speaker 8: a pretty good job. Defense is doing a pretty good
28:11
Speaker 8: job of that themselves at the moment. They don't need
28:13
Speaker 8: any help from the Greens. But you know, Australians have
28:18
Speaker 8: got to wake up. The Greens political party is dangerous
28:25
Speaker 8: and even more to the point, I called on the
28:28
Speaker 8: Prime Minister during question time that if if he believes
28:34
Speaker 8: the Greens are so bad, well he should stop taking
28:36
Speaker 8: preferences from them. The only reason that Anthony Albanesi is
28:42
Speaker 8: the Prime Minister of Australia is because the Labor Party
28:46
Speaker 8: take preferences from the Greens. If he believes that they've
28:49
Speaker 8: lost their way to the extent that they have, fine,
28:51
Speaker 8: he should make a courageous decision, come out and say, well,
28:55
Speaker 8: we won't take their preferences anymore. That's what a good
28:58
Speaker 8: strong leader would do.
28:59
Speaker 1: But hold my.
29:00
Speaker 2: Breath, no, you and I both know that's not going
29:04
Speaker 2: to happen. Just want to quickly ask you about personal safety.
29:07
Speaker 2: AFP Commissioner Kershaw, he's talked about threats to Australian politicians.
29:12
Speaker 2: Is up one hundred and sixty percent on three years ago.
29:15
Speaker 2: We've seen the Prime Minister's Sydney Electric office all but abandoned.
29:19
Speaker 2: You've got red paint splashed over Dreyfus's office in Melbourne,
29:23
Speaker 2: Kershaw labeled a threat to democracy. Do you worry about
29:27
Speaker 2: your own safety and if you don't, are you concerned
29:31
Speaker 2: about the safety of others?
29:34
Speaker 8: Well, I'm certainly concerned about the safety of my colleagues
29:37
Speaker 8: and electorate office staff. In the former parliament, I was
29:42
Speaker 8: the Speaker in the dying days of our government and
29:48
Speaker 8: I took the safety and security of staff and members
29:53
Speaker 8: very very seriously, as it was my responsibility to do.
29:57
Speaker 8: I'm also at the Deputy Chair of the Intelligence and
29:59
Speaker 8: Security Committee, so I receive briefings about these threats that
30:03
Speaker 8: we are currently facing, and they are real and they
30:07
Speaker 8: are significantly increasing. It is absolutely unacceptable that some people
30:13
Speaker 8: in Australia believe that they can cause physical harm, physical damage,
30:20
Speaker 8: property damage to electorate officers, to threaten electorate staff. I
30:25
Speaker 8: don't care whether they're labor or Liberal or Nationals or whoever,
30:30
Speaker 8: whatever they are. It is absolutely unacceptable for electorate staff
30:34
Speaker 8: to be threatened by protesters. Utterly unacceptable. It is UnAustralian.
30:39
Speaker 8: I tell you what, Steve, I think that any veterans
30:44
Speaker 8: of World War II, being the eightieth anniversary of D Day,
30:47
Speaker 8: would be looking at Australia today and looking at what
30:50
Speaker 8: these pro Palestinian pro Palestinian protests and shaking their head
30:55
Speaker 8: in disbelief and be wondering, you know, is this the
30:57
Speaker 8: country I fought for?
31:01
Speaker 2: I just wonder, just finally, why state and federal police
31:03
Speaker 2: don't move in them. And I just can't work out
31:06
Speaker 2: how the office of the Prime Minister of Australia, the
31:09
Speaker 2: electorate office, staffed by people who might not even be
31:12
Speaker 2: labor supporters, they might just be working in there, can
31:14
Speaker 2: be defaced in that way and no one does anything.
31:17
Speaker 1: But police don't do anything about it.
31:20
Speaker 8: Well, it's this softly, softly, you know, kumbaya approach that's
31:23
Speaker 8: being taken by law enforcement. It's hard to call the
31:27
Speaker 8: law enforcement anymore, but you know they are there to
31:30
Speaker 8: enforce the law. And it is against the law last
31:33
Speaker 8: time I checked, to cause property damage, to threaten people
31:37
Speaker 8: as they're coming and going, and to prevent people getting
31:40
Speaker 8: access to their workplaces. You know, I call upon law
31:44
Speaker 8: enforcement to do their job, both state and federal, if
31:47
Speaker 8: they see offenses. I mean, you know, what we saw
31:49
Speaker 8: on the ninth of October last year on the steps
31:52
Speaker 8: of Sydney Opera House was utterly disgraceful. Who would have
31:56
Speaker 8: thought that we would see that on these shores, And
31:59
Speaker 8: yet the news Arthwall's police force.
32:02
Speaker 10: You know, we're nowhere to be seen.
32:04
Speaker 8: I think that that is an absolute disgrace on them
32:09
Speaker 8: their leadership. I don't challenge the front line police officers,
32:15
Speaker 8: but the leadership that's coming from the top certainly needs
32:20
Speaker 8: to be looked at.
32:22
Speaker 2: Agree with you one hundred percent, Andrew Wallace, thanks for
32:24
Speaker 2: joining us tonight. Now coming up next, the end of
32:26
Speaker 2: the financial year is nearly here. It's not just the
32:29
Speaker 2: taxman you need to look out for, although you have
32:32
Speaker 2: to keep an eye on them. The tax office scams
32:34
Speaker 2: you need to look out for. That's coming up next.
32:42
Speaker 2: Welcome back Steve In for Peter. I'll go back to
32:44
Speaker 2: that Peter Costello, that extraordinary vision from Canberra Airport with
32:48
Speaker 2: our panel coming up shortly. Now, it's no secret we
32:51
Speaker 2: are in a cost of living crisis, you know that
32:53
Speaker 2: lots of people looking to make their dollars stretch further.
32:56
Speaker 2: Many people are turning to these buying now, pay later schemes. Now,
33:00
Speaker 2: these things started off like layby, where you would put
33:02
Speaker 2: some go and buy some clothes. You get them immediately
33:05
Speaker 2: and you can buy.
33:06
Speaker 1: It then and pay it back later.
33:08
Speaker 2: As long as you paid it in a certain amount
33:10
Speaker 2: of time, you didn't get a penalty. But forty two
33:11
Speaker 2: percent of Australians now so they've used one of these
33:14
Speaker 2: programs in the last six months, some users carrying up
33:17
Speaker 2: to fourteen hundred dollars debt. Now they're even using them
33:20
Speaker 2: some people to pay off things like electricity bills. The
33:23
Speaker 2: fees when they kick in on these things are very
33:26
Speaker 2: very high, the interest rates for more. I'm joined by
33:28
Speaker 2: the head of Consumer Research, a Finder Graham Cook Graham,
33:32
Speaker 2: thanks a lot for those people watching have not used
33:35
Speaker 2: one of these things, That includes me.
33:38
Speaker 1: I sort of got a working.
33:39
Speaker 2: Understanding of how it operates. Tell us how they work.
33:44
Speaker 13: Good evening, Steve Well. They are basically a lower risk
33:46
Speaker 13: version of credit cards. They entered the market a few
33:48
Speaker 13: years ago, just before COVID actually, and they allow they
33:51
Speaker 13: use it to purchaseide them in a store and pay
33:53
Speaker 13: it back because of the item over a series of installments,
33:57
Speaker 13: usually over six or twelve months. Instead of paying in,
34:00
Speaker 13: the user will pay a monthly fee for that service.
34:05
Speaker 2: And if you don't make your payments on time or
34:07
Speaker 2: you default, what happens.
34:09
Speaker 10: Then yeah, this is the key.
34:11
Speaker 13: So even though they're not charging interest, they do charge
34:14
Speaker 13: fees if you have a late payment. And actually these
34:17
Speaker 13: companies make about twenty five percent of their income from
34:20
Speaker 13: late fees. So there is risk in these projects for
34:22
Speaker 13: people who get involved, even if they're not quite as
34:24
Speaker 13: risky as credit cards.
34:27
Speaker 2: They started as as a product that younger people, particularly
34:32
Speaker 2: younger females, were using, but it seems it's expanded out.
34:35
Speaker 2: Are you hearing stories about people using them on things
34:39
Speaker 2: that I mentioned there? Like you know, if you've got
34:42
Speaker 2: your bank account's empty, you've got an electricity bill or
34:45
Speaker 2: something to pay. Are people using these things for that?
34:49
Speaker 13: I don't have data on the items they're using these
34:51
Speaker 13: services for, but what I do have data on is
34:53
Speaker 13: the age spread of users. And you're very correct to
34:55
Speaker 13: say it's younger Australian, So overall about two and five
34:58
Speaker 13: Australians using these services. But when you look at the
35:00
Speaker 13: younger generations that Gen X, it's sixty percent Gen Y
35:05
Speaker 13: fifty six percent, so more than half of both of
35:07
Speaker 13: these generations are using these services. I think this is
35:09
Speaker 13: why we saw a dip in the number of credit
35:12
Speaker 13: cards in the market over the last couple of years
35:14
Speaker 13: before the cash routs started to increase. Of course, the
35:16
Speaker 13: credit card market has recovered now, but these products are
35:19
Speaker 13: still very popular.
35:22
Speaker 2: And they are very easy to access, so that's why
35:25
Speaker 2: young people go into a store there's a sticker on
35:27
Speaker 2: the window pay now, buy now, pay later. You can
35:31
Speaker 2: just do it very simply. It's not like having to
35:33
Speaker 2: go through an application process for a credit card, and
35:36
Speaker 2: indeed many of the kids using these would not qualify
35:39
Speaker 2: for a credit CUD.
35:40
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's true.
35:41
Speaker 13: Very easy to sign up and also in many cases
35:43
Speaker 13: no credit checks are required for these products in Australia.
35:46
Speaker 13: There is talk of legislation to change that, which I
35:49
Speaker 13: think will be a good move in the market. But
35:51
Speaker 13: they're generally easier to sign up for than credit cards,
35:54
Speaker 13: less risky, but do have some sort of risk, especially
35:57
Speaker 13: if you start building up dead and buying more and
35:59
Speaker 13: more products before you've paid off to previous products.
36:03
Speaker 2: Twenty three, twenty four Text years about to come to
36:06
Speaker 2: an end. Text time lots of people trying to get
36:08
Speaker 2: a big refund or avoid penalties, and that's when the
36:12
Speaker 2: scam is struck. I paid a tax bill this morning
36:15
Speaker 2: on my mobile phone out of a new account that
36:18
Speaker 2: I'd established on my phone. I checked it over and
36:21
Speaker 2: over and over, just hoping I wasn't sending a reasonable
36:25
Speaker 2: amount of money off to an account where I shouldn't
36:28
Speaker 2: have been sending And how many scams are out there.
36:32
Speaker 10: The scam numbers have increased pretty dramatically in Australia.
36:34
Speaker 13: So if you look at the overall number of scams reported,
36:36
Speaker 13: that's gone up from two hundred and forty thousand scams
36:40
Speaker 13: in twenty twenty two to three hundred thousand scams last year.
36:43
Speaker 13: Some more scammers out there. We're hearing a lot of
36:45
Speaker 13: anecdotical evidence of people being scammed in this.
36:47
Speaker 10: Time of year. It tends to be tax scams.
36:50
Speaker 13: These are scams which are pretending to be either somebody
36:53
Speaker 13: offering a tax refund or scams pretending to be directly
36:56
Speaker 13: from the from your my goog account, from the ATO
36:59
Speaker 13: encouraging you to pick a link, and of course if
37:01
Speaker 13: you do, that link will steal your data and you'll
37:03
Speaker 13: probably end up the victim of ID.
37:05
Speaker 2: Theft and grahame the text officers. We will never send
37:09
Speaker 2: you a message.
37:09
Speaker 1: Like that, right, yeah.
37:11
Speaker 10: Yeah.
37:11
Speaker 13: Basically, the advice here is if you receive any message,
37:15
Speaker 13: whether it's from the tax officer or a retailer or
37:17
Speaker 13: a bank with a link, generally device is not to
37:20
Speaker 13: click that link. There's a few warning signs. If the
37:22
Speaker 13: link doesn't have the bank name it that can be
37:24
Speaker 13: a kind of early indication that a scam, or if
37:27
Speaker 13: the spelling mistakes or it doesn't look quite right. But
37:29
Speaker 13: generally the advice is don't click on any links that
37:32
Speaker 13: come via.
37:32
Speaker 10: Text messages or via emails.
37:34
Speaker 13: Go directly to the website if you think there might
37:36
Speaker 13: be an issue, though this is very.
37:38
Speaker 10: Difficult to actually identify.
37:40
Speaker 13: I interviewed an id an IT identity expert a couple
37:46
Speaker 13: of years ago who fell victim to ID theft himself,
37:48
Speaker 13: even though he knew all the rules, and he lost
37:50
Speaker 13: two thousand dollars from his bank account and only a
37:52
Speaker 13: couple of error. So if anyone's interested in reading that interview,
37:54
Speaker 13: it's on the front page of Finder today.
37:58
Speaker 2: So when I get a text mesage last night that
38:01
Speaker 2: I worked to this morning saying my linked my linked
38:06
Speaker 2: account for my card on my car, whatever you call it,
38:10
Speaker 2: those tags, that I should click on that and pay
38:13
Speaker 2: it immediately. As your advice to me, Graham, don't do that.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, don't do that, go directly to the website.
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Speaker 13: There's also another scam that's going around just these last
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Speaker 13: few days of scammers texting people to say that they
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Speaker 13: have unused Telstra and points are unused Quantus points, and
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Speaker 13: you click on a link that doesn't say Quantus or
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Speaker 13: Telstra in it, then you end up on a scam
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Speaker 13: site trying to collect your data. And if you do that,
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Speaker 13: you might not see the effect immediately, but then you know,
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Speaker 13: a couple of weeks tend the line, you could have
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Speaker 13: two grind disappear from your back account, so you can
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Speaker 13: be too carveful.
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Speaker 2: I got one of those from Coal's and I don't
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Speaker 2: shop at Coals, so that's a pretty good tip. Graham
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Speaker 2: Cook from Finder, thank you very much for joining us.
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Speaker 2: Appreciate your time after the break important day in global history.
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Speaker 1: Will take a look back at.
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Speaker 2: The end of World War Well, it's not the end
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Speaker 2: of World War Two at the D Day anniversary. It's
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Speaker 2: eightieth anniversary of D Day. It was the beginning of
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Speaker 2: the end of World War Two. Extraordinarily brave people who
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Speaker 2: went across the Channel on this day eighty years ago.
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Speaker 2: All that to come next. Welcome back to Steve price
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Speaker 2: In for Peter.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: Today marks the eightieth anniversary of the D Day landings,
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Speaker 2: Operation Overlord. More than one hundred and thirty thousand military personnel, sailors, airmen.
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Speaker 2: They hit the Normandy coast in a bid to push
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Speaker 2: back the Nazis. Now I was lucky enough to be
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Speaker 2: on Omaha Beach on the fiftieth anniversary of D Day
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Speaker 2: a long time ago. Paul Keating was there as our
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister. Now I was there with a group of veterans,
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Speaker 2: and their stories were inspirational. Brave men asked to do
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Speaker 2: insanely brave things to push Hitler back to Germany. It
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Speaker 2: was the beginning, as I said, of the end of
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Speaker 2: World War Two. Commemoration events are being held all over
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Speaker 2: the world to one of the day here's Sky's Alistair
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Speaker 2: Bruce with a look back at how the day unfolded
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Speaker 2: eighty years ago.
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Speaker 7: Eighteen years ago, on the sixth of June nineteen forty four,
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Speaker 7: more than one hundred and fifty thousand Allied forces from
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Speaker 7: the UK, US and Canada took part in a combined naval,
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Speaker 7: air and land assault code named Operation Overlord on Nazi
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Speaker 7: occupied France. Their aim to make a foothold in Nazi
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Speaker 7: territory to liberate occupied Europe, but hundreds of miles of
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Speaker 7: fortifications known as the Atlantic Walls stood in their way.
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Speaker 7: The operation had been planned for months and thousands of
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Speaker 7: troops gathered along the south coast of England waiting for
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Speaker 7: the optimum conditions to launch the invasion. To ensure success,
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Speaker 7: the Allies deployed a series of deception campaigns to fool
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Speaker 7: the Nazis and deflect German resources from the real target,
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Speaker 7: with bombing raids carried out right across northern France. After
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Speaker 7: a day's delay due to unfavorable weather conditions, Operation Neptune,
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Speaker 7: the naval aspect of the invasion, began around midnight of
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Speaker 7: the sixth of June. An hour later and the first
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Speaker 7: British and American planes flew over, normally dropping around thirteen
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Speaker 7: thousand paratroopers behind enemy lines and attacking key strategic German
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Speaker 7: positions from above. D Day had begun. Various problems including navigation,
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Speaker 7: communication and heavy enemy fire, meant that many of the
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Speaker 7: paratroopers landed off course, leaving scores dead or missing. Attention
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Speaker 7: then turned to the beach assaults. German military leaders were
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Speaker 7: expecting an invasion, but they believed the attacks from the
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Speaker 7: air were only an attempt to divert their attention before
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Speaker 7: an attack further up the coast near to Calais. Many
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Speaker 7: of the landing craft became floating targets, with casualties beginning
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Speaker 7: to mount. Those who landed at Utah Beach, which had
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Speaker 7: been added as a target at the eleventh hour to
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Speaker 7: allow an assault on Sherby, were also affected by poor weather.
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Speaker 7: At Gold Beach, British troops faced stiff opposition, but a
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Speaker 7: combination of air support, precise naval shelling, and sheer bravery
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Speaker 7: allowed them to secure a beachhead and push on to
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Speaker 7: capture strategically important locations, allowing the flow of essential supplies.
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Speaker 7: At Juneou Beach, almost half the first wave of Canadian
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Speaker 7: troops were killed or injured. Those that did survive managed
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Speaker 7: to take more territory that first day than the British
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Speaker 7: and Americans. And British forces landing at Sword Beach too
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Speaker 7: faced strong resistance. It took until the afternoon for the
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Speaker 7: paratroopers and commandos to fully take control of their intended target.
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Speaker 7: By the end of the day, Allied forces were holding
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Speaker 7: key areas of northern France's coast. While those three nations
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Speaker 7: were the main driving force of the invasion, it is
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Speaker 7: important to say that our multitude of countries contributed to
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Speaker 7: its enormous success.
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Speaker 2: If you want an idea of how brutal it was,
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Speaker 2: get out the movie Saving Private Ryan. The opening scenes
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Speaker 2: in that film are just unbelievable. Let's bring in our
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Speaker 2: final panel for tonight, Pauline Hanson's One Nation chief of
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Speaker 2: Staff James Ashby and Spectator Australia columnist Terry Barnes. James,
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Speaker 2: I was there on the fiftieth anniversary. I found a
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Speaker 2: bloke up the back of the bus wearing a red
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Speaker 2: beret and I went up sat down to him very
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Speaker 2: quiet blow. I said, mate, what did you do on
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Speaker 2: D Day? And he said, well, they put me in.
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Speaker 2: They stuffed me in a glider and they towed me
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Speaker 2: behind a plane and dropped the glider and me behind
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Speaker 2: enemy lines. And my instructions were to get back to
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Speaker 2: the coast. That's bravery for.
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Speaker 1: You as now.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, it is. It's sad for someone of my age
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Speaker 14: to fathom exactly what they went through. We were lucky enough
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Speaker 14: to have family members. Kevin Thompson from Mulaney. He passed
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Speaker 14: away many years ago now, but you know the stories
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Speaker 14: he was able to share with us, they were far
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Speaker 14: and few between. These blokes didn't really talk about them.
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Speaker 14: So you're lucky to have had that conversation. And we're
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Speaker 14: so lucky that people were prepared to go and defend
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Speaker 14: this country and others like Britain and Westernized nations. So yeah,
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Speaker 14: well doneder them.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I was extremely lucky. Terry.
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Speaker 2: Another couple of blokes on the bus. We're driving along
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Speaker 2: this back lane in Normandy and they said, pull the
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Speaker 2: bus up, pull the bus up, and I said, what
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Speaker 2: are we stopping for? And they said, see that church
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Speaker 2: spire there. That was the only landmark we had. We
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Speaker 2: were spitfire pilots and we used to use that to
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Speaker 2: work out where to land. Do you think Australian youngsters,
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Speaker 2: and many of these men were eighteen seventeen, eighteen, nineteen twenty,
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Speaker 2: you think they would sign up if our country was
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Speaker 2: under threat and fight for us like those blokes did.
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Speaker 15: Would they fight for king country? Steve? I don't think so,
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Speaker 15: not in this day and age, and really what we're
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Speaker 15: seeing at the moment in terms of we'll say, the
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Speaker 15: protests anti Israel, pro Palestinian protests around the country by
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Speaker 15: these young people. I mean, those men died for the
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Speaker 15: freedom of speech, food and expression, freedom from tyranny, and
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Speaker 15: those kids just simply do not understand the sacrifice that
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Speaker 15: was made on their behalf and they're taking those freedoms
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Speaker 15: absolutely and utterly for granted. And I think those who
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Speaker 15: died that day, those who survived that day, the few
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Speaker 15: of them that are now must absolutely be scratching their
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Speaker 15: heads at what has become of the Australian news since then.
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Speaker 2: Joe, I wish I could drag some optimism out of that,
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Speaker 2: but I fear you're probably right, although I'm slightly more
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Speaker 2: optimistic about you know, you get out into regional Australia
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Speaker 2: and I think it's a different story out there once
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Speaker 2: you get out of the cities, James, you'd agree with that,
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Speaker 2: would New Regional Australia. Perhaps the young men up there
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Speaker 2: playing rugby league and working out on the farms, they
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Speaker 2: might be where we'd have to draw our soldiers from.
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Speaker 14: Oh yeah, and they're also the only people in this
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Speaker 14: country where I am here in central Queensland that know
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Speaker 14: how to fire a gun. These city dweller kids, they
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Speaker 14: don't know anything. They know how to use a playbox,
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Speaker 14: PlayStation controller, but you know, when it comes to warfare
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Speaker 14: and actually defending this country, I'd hate to think that
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Speaker 14: our governments, whether they be state or federal, continue to
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Speaker 14: demonize those people who can actually use a rifle out
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Speaker 14: there on the farm or I'm a license firearm owner myself.
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Speaker 14: I hate the idea of thinking that we're seeing less
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Speaker 14: and less Australians know how to use a rifle because
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Speaker 14: one day, god forbid, we may have to use them
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Speaker 14: to defend ourselves. So I say, you know, there should
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Speaker 14: be more of a program to teach kids and young
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Speaker 14: men how to actually use rifles and guns safely in
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Speaker 14: this country.
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Speaker 2: I agree vision this Afternoon Channel nine chairman Peter Costello,
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Speaker 2: former treasurer knocked over Lea Mendez, a reporter from The Australian.
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Speaker 2: The reporter attempt to question him about some of the
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Speaker 2: crisi's involving nine.
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Speaker 1: Here's what it looked like. He is unfolded.
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Speaker 11: Well, you've got to answer the questions, mister, still.
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Speaker 2: Seemed to dip the shoulder to me, James, you work
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Speaker 2: for one of the most high profile women in the country.
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Speaker 2: She's been harassed by TV cameraman from the day she
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Speaker 2: entered Parliament and she's never ever, as far as I
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Speaker 2: can remember, decided that she wants to knock someone over backwards.
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Speaker 1: She might have thought about it, but never did it.
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Speaker 14: No, you don't do that. Peter Costello should know better.
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Speaker 14: I can just hear the theme song of a Karen Affair.
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Speaker 14: He's the chair of that same network that would thrive
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Speaker 14: on footage like this. He should never have done that. Silly, silly,
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Speaker 14: silly Terry.
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Speaker 2: I suspect he's probably going to come out and apologize.
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Speaker 2: I think that'd be the smart thing to do, wouldn't it?
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Speaker 1: Will it be wise?
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Speaker 15: But certainly I could understand his frustration and being sort
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Speaker 15: of badgered like that. But James is right in politics,
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Speaker 15: you've just got to suck it up. And the mister
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Speaker 15: Costello has been out of the political game for quite
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Speaker 15: some time. But it's even so. He should be better
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Speaker 15: and more self aware than that. Yeah, I think he'll
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Speaker 15: regret it once he sees that vision. I just wonder
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Speaker 15: I'm on air now. I just wonder whether the Channel
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Speaker 15: nine news is going to be played. I suspect not.
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Speaker 1: James and Terry, thank you very much for tonight. That's
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Speaker 1: it for me.
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Speaker 2: I'll be back with you tomorrow night in my normal
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Speaker 2: Friday night show. And coming up now for the Bolt Report.
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Speaker 2: James McPherson's filling in