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"Grievance and Forgiveness" (Monday September 22, 2025, Hour 2) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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Speaker 1: Forgive me on a need to know basis, because you
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need to know the first thing today.
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Speaker 2: George said, steal me step you have a day at
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least for work when the sun comes up, drops a
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pet into school. Nay joys everything, Adam all the treasure.
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Speaker 3: Seven needs.
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Speaker 1: No one that Joe's smiled.
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Speaker 4: He only as.
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Speaker 5: Joe.
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Speaker 6: Thank you for letting us be of service to you
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this morning. Four three four eight eight two.
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Speaker 7: Four two one seven. Could you have forgiveness or somebody
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who stole something dear to you?
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Speaker 6: Could you? Could you find it in your heart? Could you?
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Speaker 3: And?
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Speaker 8: And is that not.
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Speaker 7: Essentially what our problem in our society is today? We
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left doctor Clark hanging. He was ramping up to a
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point and it wasn't going to stick the landing before
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the news, so I asked him to hang on and
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uh and take us back maybe a second or two
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before we had to break for the news.
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Speaker 6: You were you were going somewhere.
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Speaker 9: Uh.
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Speaker 7: You asked, you know how much transitioning was being done
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when you and I were in high school? And I
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said none, So you know, and you were talking about
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the shooter and their paramore who was apparently transitioning.
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Speaker 6: So have I set it back up, doctor Clark, I.
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Speaker 10: Think so yeah, And I don't know if we're going
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to stick landing. We might just be orbiting in space
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when we get done.
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Speaker 7: So yeah, this guy.
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Speaker 10: Who was upsetting us about perceived flights to the trans
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community to go murder somebody was involved romantically with another
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guy that was going to be a female.
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Speaker 6: Right now, that's what I'm told.
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Speaker 10: I got to classify him as homosexual. Okay, because he's
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romantically involved with a guy. Now, if we work under
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the assumption that you could start out a guy but
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transition to a woman, if they stay romantically involved, does
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he stay homosexual or does he become heterosexual? Does he
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then self loath because he's no longer a part of
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the community he wanted to be a part of.
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Speaker 11: You know, Joe, When we were kids, there was a
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cartoon called Teoter Turtle, and Teter always went to see
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mister Wizard because he wanted to be something that he wasn't.
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Speaker 10: And then he went off and had an adventure and
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things didn't work.
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Speaker 11: Out, and mister Wizard brought him back.
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Speaker 10: And explained that the happiest people were the ones that
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were happy with who they were. Yes, how come we
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don't have psychiatrics. As far as mister Wizard the lizard, I.
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Speaker 7: Don't know, but we need some. We need some to
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be able to say. But maybe this is the adventure.
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We have to go on and have all sorts of
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bad things happen to us before we can learned. Mister
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Wizard's a lesson there, Clark.
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Speaker 6: Thank you, sir. You have a great morning.
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Speaker 10: I'm not prepared for the world in which I live.
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Speaker 7: Joe, I'm sure you are. You just don't realize it.
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Have have heart and stout courage, my friend. There you go,
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all right, be good?
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That's the phone number.
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And yes begins in the desert of Arizona, where hundreds
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of thousands gathered for the memorial service to Charlie Kirk,
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eighty thousand of them in the State Farm Arena with
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the celebrants, and then another twenty thousand in a basketball
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arena next door, and even more multitudes in the parking
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lots watching on screens. Erica Kirk, widow of assassinated civil
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rights crusader and a founder of Turning Points USA, Charlie Kirk,
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said during an emotional service that she forgives the man
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accused of killing him, stressing that love, not hate must
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be the answer, and vowed to continue his legacy with
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Turning Point USA. President Trump then said he doesn't find
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it so easy to forgive, but did say that Kirk
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was a martyr for American freedom and a giant of
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on Sunday and said he would not rule out backing
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President Trump's demand for a clean stopgap funding bill to
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Speaker 6: I'm late, but I'm here.
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Speaker 1: Is this till time for forgiveness?
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Speaker 6: Won't you tell me how?
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Speaker 23: I can't read your mind, but I see you now
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as we land in the darkness?
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Speaker 2: Did I wait to longe.
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Speaker 23: To turn them?
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Speaker 6: Forgive him?
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Speaker 7: That is Erica Kirk from yesterday's rally and is forgiveness.
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One of the things that's tearing us apart right now
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is that we're convinced in a grievous culture, grievance culture,
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that there must be punishments.
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Speaker 6: And it's interesting.
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Speaker 7: We live in a world where the Mayor of Chicago
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will say law enforcement is a sickness, but we want
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justice for things that none of us did and happened
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to people who are no longer alive.
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Speaker 6: And that's the.
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Speaker 7: Bipolar feeling that you get. That equilibrium challenging.
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Speaker 24: Single resource that's available to us, jails and incarceration and
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law enforcement, is a sickness that has not led to
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safe communities.
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Speaker 7: However, we want justice for something that happened one hundred
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and fifty years ago that none of us participated in
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and none of us suffered under. And this is where
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I'm going with the forgiveness question. If Erica Kirk can
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forgive the man who murdered her husband, can we forgive
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each other for the assaults we've been making upon each other,
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And can we forgive those things that happened to fourbearers
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of ours.
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Speaker 8: That have.
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Speaker 7: Long since been mitigated legally, And can then we finally
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get down to the realities of why people are poor
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in this country, regardless of the fact that globally speaking,
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even the poorest American is considered to be one of
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the global one percent. This is one of those things
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that the World Economic Forum likes to point out even
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the poorest American has a cell phone and perhaps even
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a used car and a place to live, putting them
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in the global one percent tile. When it comes to poverty,
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but we can't forgive because somehow it's a failing with us.
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We were talking in the last segment, Clark was asking
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about transgender and the psychological aspects of it. At this
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text message from Terry's Joe. You always seem to apologize
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for teetering on sounding like sunderezed sermonette.
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Speaker 6: But here you go.
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Speaker 7: You sound like you're possessing a psychological degree. When did
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you pick that one up? Well, no, it's nothing. I'm
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telling you. I am self abashedly an armchair sociologist, just
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like all those guys who are going to tell you
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why Patrick Mahomes needs to retire because you know, Travis
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Kelsey is the problem with the Kansas City Chiefs. I
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can sit and watch the game unfold in front of
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me and have an opinion as to what might happen,
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and often, you know, observation, as long as it's done
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without the manipulation of those who run the camera crews,
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can often be a much more accurate view of what's
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going on. So I am a human with intel who
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is sitting here in my armchair watching the world play
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out on my big screen TV, and I think I
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have some ideas as to what's going on, and whether
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it's Travis Kelsey and Andy Reid or mayor Brandon Johnson
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in crime or Erica Kirk in forgiveness. I think our
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problem is that we as a society don't have forgiveness,
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and we have politicians that are preying on that and
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in some cases I think, fomenting it for their own aggrandizement,
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and that I will not abide, not as long as
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I have this microphone, which many of you think is
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some sort of other nod to white supremacy, whether you
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know or not, whether I'm Caucasian or not as irrelevant
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Joe Thomas as one of those names could go many ways.
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I want to again pivot to other things going on.
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But under the banner of forgiveness and the Charlie kirkrally,
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there's some ugliness going on up in Massachusetts.
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Speaker 6: It's lowell. Do they carry us for more than I
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don't know?
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Speaker 7: So they can podcast it as well at four three
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four eight eight two four two one seven. These schools
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in Massachusetts will allow celebrations of Charlie Kirk Smart.
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Freedom of speech, freedom of.
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Speaker 1: Religion, freedom of the press, freedom to peaceably assemble.
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to one of the things that tears us apart again.
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Speaker 7: Warranty for those who insist that you have to the
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and if you've ever wondered if you're a technocrad or not.
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If you hear somebody giving their analysis of something and
28:59
you and you think, well, what gives you the right
29:02
to have that opinion, you might be a technocrat. So,
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as I was watching the Memorial Service, as millions across
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the country were yesterday, Erica Kirk brought down the House
29:25
and I don't know if you shared this opinion, but
29:27
I sat on the edge of my seat, thinking, if
29:31
I was the President of the United States, I would
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not go up there and say anything more than we
29:35
miss you, Charlie, we love you, and we honor you.
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President Trump didn't, but I was on the edge of
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my seat for the entirety of his speech, hoping against
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take phrases out of context.
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Speaker 6: And we'll get into some of that, but I was
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struck by.
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Speaker 7: Erica Kirk and her strength and her ability to tell
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the world that she forgave the assailant.
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Speaker 6: I forgive him.
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Speaker 7: And you're so rare that is in the society anymore,
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because we define ourselves by the things we're against, not
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what we're for.
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Speaker 7: Teachers Association in Massachusetts voted to oppose any sanction against
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any of their membership that would come from celebrating the
30:57
murder of a person. This person happens to be Charlie Kirk.
31:04
Massachusetts Teachers Association said its members should not be punished
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for reacting positively to the murder, as it would validate
31:16
accusations by extremists. Now there's a phrase for you. No
31:21
lawyers involved in writing that phrase. MTA president Max Page
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said that he and vice president Deb McCarthy good Massachusetts
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name spoke out against the issue after five state employees.
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Speaker 6: School employees posted.
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Speaker 7: About Kirk's assassination in a positive way or his life
31:46
in a negative way. We're insisting that public school administrators
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and officials not take action that validate accusations by extremists
31:59
against educators. We urge administrators to consider the legal and
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contractual rights of union members and give equal weight to justice,
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due process, and cauntion. Now, it will remind you that merely,
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regardless of how soon, merely asking the question, hey, what
32:20
was the blood toxicology report on George Floyd? Oh outcome,
32:26
the cross is burning on your yard for being such
32:28
a racist that this legal ease of somehow acknowledging or
32:48
giving credence to extremists validate accusations is a bigger issue,
32:55
and we've talked about this in the past that if
33:01
somebody has a different opinion than you and you allow
33:07
it to take place, then that has become your opinion.
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And that's where our outrage society comes from, is that
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we have to express moral outrage if somebody says something
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that I disagree with, because if I don't immediately speak
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Speaker 6: Yet, when a woman is being stabbed.
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Speaker 7: On a Charlotte light rail train, the four people that
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are visible on the security camera sit there, and there's
33:47
a discourageousness about this society. And I'm not saying the
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same people, and plenty of people will argue different people
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drow you. But this outrage culture that we have to
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have because it comes from this criminal misuse of social
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media driven by Chaicom's and the Russian bot farms, that
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tell you that if you allow some statement to go
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Then if you haven't pushed back against it, well then
34:38
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Speaker 8: It was.
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Speaker 7: One of the Christian singers that appeared at Charlie Kirk's
34:48
memorial service lost thirty thousand followers on social media because
34:53
he took part in this. And that's not good because
35:00
that's your economic power. Some people get money out of it.
35:05
Very few actually, at the end of the day, very
35:07
few people make money on the internet. But losing followers
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certainly is going to cost you money. You better keep
35:27
your follower numbers up, otherwise you might lose power and
35:31
prestige and money off.
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Speaker 6: Of some economy of scale that I don't. I mean,
35:36
I get what it is. I understand.
35:40
Speaker 7: Being an influencer, I guess always have been in radio.
35:47
But somehow radio is mora along the lines of I
35:50
can speak freely. It's on me, whether you listen or not.
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Just to email JT in the morning radio at gmail
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earlier about having things and why it's being considered supremacist
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in a society that wants justice for stuff that happened
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one hundred and fifty years ago, but not stuff that
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show on all these stations around the country, how do
36:30
you get one of those? And he says some rude
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That's an old Hollywood expression.
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Speaker 6: Who do I have to get a job in this town?
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Who refers to it? In course ways? And I appreciate the.
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Speaker 7: Question, Jerry, but I don't see anyone stopping you from
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starting a YouTube channel and trying to serve you andcy
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an Instagram feed. My friend Nick Freda says millions of followers.
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Did somebody give him that or did he start musing
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Speaker 1: First thing today on the Talk Media Network by Joe Thomas.
44:16
Speaker 6: But you also had people that were very fine people
44:21
on both sides.
44:27
Speaker 7: So ever since the good old days of twenty sixteen,
44:32
it has been a mission sometimes of this program to
44:36
push back on the narratives created when president's statements the
44:41
president President Trump, his statements are excerpted for the message,
44:47
and one of the things you're hearing a lot from
44:50
the people who weren't paying attention to the rally, and
44:53
even within that, things the President said during the speech
44:58
yesterday evening being excerpted and taken out of context to
45:04
make a narrative of the reporter rather than to just say,
45:08
here's what the President said. And one of those things
45:12
that has been boiling and roiling over the weekend is
45:15
the story that President Trump is going after free speech.
45:19
Here's the interchange in its entirety, not just and understand
45:23
I'm going to play the reporter's question because I hate
45:28
to say it this way, but the reporters have become
45:31
the news story, and so the question becomes the story,
45:36
not the president's answer.
45:37
Speaker 6: Even so much sell this.
45:39
Speaker 7: Free speech question, because you've said that you would restored
45:42
free speech in America.
45:43
Speaker 6: Is that free speech, including.
45:44
Speaker 9: For people who are harshly critical of you, for your
45:47
political opponents, for people who say things you don't like,
45:50
come and be treating you unfairly.
45:52
Speaker 6: I've becoming into it.
45:53
Speaker 9: Has never been a person that's had more unfair publicity
45:57
than me. And that's why your network made me fifteen
45:59
minutes million dollars or sixteen million dollars I believe to
46:02
be exact, George Slapadopolis. And that's why CBS paid me
46:06
a lot of money too, and that's why I sued
46:09
The New York Times two days ago for a lot
46:11
of money.
46:12
Speaker 6: Judge yourself, Well, I'm winning.
46:14
Speaker 9: I mean, I'm winning the cases. And the reason I'm
46:16
winning is because you're guilty, John, You're guilty. ABC is
46:19
a terrible network, of very unfair network, and you should
46:22
be ashamed of yourself. NBC is equally bad. I don't
46:25
know who's worse. I think they're equally bad. And you
46:29
know for you to stand there in exo innocent.
46:33
Speaker 7: So the President's point is that here you said in
46:39
judgment saying that there's some free speech issue going on
46:46
and that suing somebody when they've been slandered is somehow
46:51
trying to chill free speech. So I don't know where
46:56
you sit, but if somebody goes on this radio show,
46:59
let's say somebody of this radio show and says, I,
47:03
I don't know, let's pick somebody. I was in the
47:07
emergency room and your listener, Joel was wearing a T
47:12
shirt that said make America Great Again, and it made
47:16
me scared for my safety or something. I'm just making
47:21
up a scenario. And I don't know you know whether
47:26
that's true or not. But you've called and said it
47:29
on the radio, and it's imperative to me to say, well,
47:32
that's an accusation for the police, isn't it, or the
47:36
hospital administrator, And and you know why have you not
47:39
made this accusation there? Because in the court of public opinion,
47:43
people will call and say stuff, and then it's imperative
47:49
for those of us who publish. Remember, the First Amendment
47:54
guarantees the right of the press, and people like John
47:58
and all the other folks who are asking about this
48:02
rite of free speech have so sadly and thoroughly misunderstood
48:08
what the phrase freedom of the press means, and with
48:17
a nod to the late Great antonin Scalia, I am
48:20
going to point out that in seventeen eighty nine, when
48:24
the Bill of Rights was written, seventeen eighty seven really
48:27
was written the phrase freedom of the press refer to
48:38
the printing press, meaning to publish. You have a right
48:44
to publish. I have a right to publish this radio show.
48:50
You have a right to publish your substack page or
48:54
even your Twitter feed.
48:55
Speaker 6: And this is where the two thirty.
48:57
Speaker 7: Protections become prickly, because if you publish something and there's
49:02
a there's a real issue right now going on with substack,
49:08
because there are people that want to claim that substack
49:12
has two thirty protections just like.
49:15
Speaker 6: Facebook or x.
49:21
Speaker 7: And Substack says, no, you know, you have to pay,
49:24
and there's a there's a certain amount you can do
49:27
for free, but it's not a we're not technically a
49:29
social media platform, and you know users, subscribers have to
49:35
sign up. And but these social media platforms that sell
49:41
advertising based on their popularity, whether it be Instagram, YouTube,
49:47
don't make a difference. They sell advertising based on their popularity,
49:52
and their popularity is driven by your friends and neighbors
49:56
and social media influencers selling their opinions on them. And
50:01
if it is my contention that if you're doing that,
50:05
you need to be held accountable for the things that
50:10
are published in your publication, the same way the old
50:14
newspapers and magazines used to be held accountable for what's
50:17
published in them. This is what President Trump was just
50:20
talking about with all the lawsuits being settled in his
50:25
favor with these networks, because they were dead to rights.
50:30
They couldn't defend an indefensible position that they were biased
50:35
against Donald Trump and reporting on things that weren't true
50:40
as if they were true, creating the image of truthfulness.
50:45
Speaker 9: Because you were dishonest, Jared, The reason I won that
50:47
lawsuit was because you were dishonest. You were proven to
50:50
be dishonest. And so you can't sit back and just say, oh, well,
50:54
what do you think, you know, like you're some wonderful person.
50:57
You're not a wonderful person. Fractly, you're a terrible reporter.
51:02
Speaker 7: And this is what everyone is saying, the President's going
51:05
to go after free speech. Well, if you speak a lie,
51:10
even about a public figure, and that's a slippery or
51:14
slope even for a public official, for a public figure,
51:18
even a talk radio show host. You could go on
51:21
your sub stack right now and write all sorts of
51:23
horrible things about the First Thing Today program or me personally.
51:28
I've had people do that already. Years ago, I suggested that,
51:33
you know, free chicken and watermelon would be you know,
51:35
just free chicken. I just I said free chicken, and
51:38
it became this racist statement that free chicken would be
51:42
a way to get hire people to hire voter turnout,
51:46
and somehow it was characterized as racist, and I had
51:50
an entire chat room dedicated to ruination of my reputation
51:55
and all the advertisers that advertised on my station. And
52:00
then I come to find out Chick fil A was
52:02
doing the very same thing. Now, of course, a Christian
52:05
who so ah must be racist. So even giving away
52:10
free food is racist. And that was two thousand and
52:15
six when I said that. But my defense would have
52:20
been much harder because I was a quote public figure.
52:24
Speaker 6: So the fact that.
52:25
Speaker 7: Donald Trump's winning these multimillion dollar lawsuits against news media outlets,
52:30
even from the position of being a public figure, is
52:32
notable to the implication that they were way off the
52:38
beam when it comes to reporting the truth. So He's
52:44
not going after free speech. He's going after libelous speech.
52:51
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