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A Closer Look at Migration (Liz Yore) 8/11/26 · The Catholic Current

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Amen. Well, friends, we're taking a closer look at migration.
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Lots of people have opinions about it. Not very many
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people have facts about it. Uh, Europe is undergoing
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a transformation as more and more migrants come in and
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don't quite assimilate. They do seem to collect a lot of
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welfare based on the numbers that I've seen and commit a disproportionate
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percentage of violent crimes, especially violent crimes against
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women. And now there is a kerfuffle going on between Morocco and Spain.
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What is going on here, and how can we look at it with a Catholic
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lens? And so my returning guest has a lot to say about that. She's the
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founder of Your Children and is an international child advocate attorney.
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Liz Earle, welcome back to The Catholic Current. Thank you, Father. Great to
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be with you again. Liz, you know that Pope Leo had gotten kind of an
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open invitation, you know, as an American Pope, come back to America.
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Wouldn't it be swell to here for the 4th of July, the 250th
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anniversary of the country. That's a prudential decision. He decided
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not only to not be there, but to be somewhere else,
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and that somewhere else, many people interpreted as
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a symbolic gesture. Tell us about that, please.
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Yes, you know, as a daughter of a World War II Navy
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pilot, I take the 4th of July very seriously,
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and so I was somewhat distressed that Pope
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Leo went to Lampedusa, which is the Italian island
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in the Mediterranean Sea, which is actually Europe's primary
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entry point for illegal migrants crossing
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over from North Africa. And what
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struck me about the scene on the 4th of July with this
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American-born pope was the— it
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was really a production of, you know, the couple,
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the young, the mother and the children, and,
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you know, walking in through the gate and highlighting
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the migration, mass illegal migration
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from North Africa. Specifically, you know, what troubles me
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about Lampedusa, which has been, you know, Lampedusa is a
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very small island and has been run
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over for, for decades with
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this illegal immigration coming from primarily
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Muslim-dominated countries. We're talking about Algeria,
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Morocco. These are countries,
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you know, 99% Muslim populations.
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And what concerns me about this is, you know,
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his first, you know, his first foray was to the Canary
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Islands in June, and then in July he went to Lampedusa
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in Italy, which is actually a place where Pope Francis
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went almost immediately once he became pope. And what
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Pope Leo said was that he wanted to bow before
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the dignity of migrants. You know, I found that,
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you know, a little disturbing because, you know, quite frankly, we're talking
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about people who, you know, whether or not you are going to justify
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their actions, these are illegal, crossing into,
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um, a legitimate territory. And many of
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these illegals who are coming into Lampedusa,
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coming into the Canary Islands,
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are claiming child status,
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unaccompanied children. And what we have now found out
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about these illegal immigrants is
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that the vast majority of those claiming that
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they're unaccompanied minors. And the reason, Father, that they're claiming that they're unaccompanied
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minors is that, I mean, it's very difficult for them
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to be sent back because of the status
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of an illegal unaccompanied minor child.
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Additionally, they get all sorts of additional benefits
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that your regular adult migrants
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would not get. Well, what they have found in doing,
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finally doing studies about the Canary Islands is
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that over 50% of the unaccompanied minors were actually
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adults. And this was a study done in— and
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then they did a study in Madrid and found out that 70% of
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those claiming that they were unaccompanied minors were
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in fact adults. And this happened in
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France where in fact they did a study where 80% of
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the unaccompanied minors coming into France were—
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had declared themselves minors were adults.
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Same thing in Belgium. And what is actually happening
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now is that they're finally beginning to test these
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illegal migrants coming into the shores, these entry
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points, and determining that in fact they're not children.
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And what is especially troubling is that they're essentially
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putting adults into children's shelters. That's one.
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One very problematic thing. These are primarily military-age
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men, aren't they? I'm sorry to interrupt. I mean, these are not elderly citizens.
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These are military-age men. They're not bringing their wives
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and children with them if they have them. And, you know,
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Phil Lawler said, you know, classically, you see pictures of refugees
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and migrants, you know, they've got a backpack, they've got a suitcase,
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they've got something. You know, recent crossings in Morocco,
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people didn't even have t-shirts. It doesn't ring true to
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me. That's right. You know, interestingly,
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you know, Pope Leo called these migrants messengers of hope. But I think we
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need to really take a close look at, are they messengers
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of hope to these incoming countries, Christian, largely Christian
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countries in Europe? And they bring increased
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crime, destabilization of communities.
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And although we recognize that there is a responsibility
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treat them with respect, there is a need to
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really underscore the importance of,
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you know, what is going on. And I would call this a civilization
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jihad. Actually,
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Bishop Athanasius Schneider described this as an
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invasion, and that he was particularly
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concerned about that we were sleepwalking into a civilizational
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collapse, and that we as as
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Christians need to understand that this is the Great
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Replacement that is going on, the Islamicization
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of the West. And so it is absolutely
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essential that we need to look at these
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issues. You know, for example, you know, the Vatican has their 37-foot
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cement wall surrounding, um,
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that's been there for what, 700, 800 years for the purposes
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of keeping out the Muslim invaders. And also
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in the, in And the Vatican has the toughest civil and
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criminal immigration laws in all of
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Europe. I was going to say that I don't see any photographs of
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Pope Leo bowing before the dignity of people who arrived illegally in
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the Vatican. Maybe those photographs are out there, but I haven't seen them.
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But the Vatican's laws are nearly— I mean, if you enter the Vatican
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illegally, you're banished for years.
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You can't even come in legally. After that. So,
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I'll put it this way, it strikes me as odd. It strikes me
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as inconsistent. You know, I mean, you and I are talking about
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this. We got about 2 minutes left here. Who else is talking about
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this? Now, finally, European citizens
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are talking about it. From the Church, it's only,
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as I can see, Archbishop Vigano,
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as well as Bishop Schneider, Bishop Schneider,
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of course, comes from, you know, he's a bishop of Kazakhstan where
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there are, you know, a majority Muslim country. So he has an appreciation
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of the Islamicization of Europe and the
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impact, and I think understands the culture better than most.
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But very few people, certainly in the
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church, are talking about it. In fact, there is, in my opinion, a full-court
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press to demand full
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welcoming of immigrants into both the United States
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and Europe, despite what is happening in Europe,
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despite the fact that since 2015,
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millions of illegal immigrants from largely Muslim-dominated
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countries have poured into Europe with an increase of,
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you know, massive crime in Sweden and Norway
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and in Britain. So, you know, this is
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an issue that For many years, Father, you know, nobody was
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allowed to talk about it. They weren't even allowed to— yes,
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in polite society, you, you wouldn't be able to say, hey, you know what,
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I don't think the Algerian Association of Future Astronauts is crossing
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our border. I think it's somebody else. And, and the
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Brain Surgeons Guild of Morocco isn't coming into Spain en masse.
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Uh, it's mostly military-age men,
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and they are incentivized to move in because they get
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free stuff at taxpayer expense, and I don't understand
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the how and why of this. Friends, we come back, we're going to continue our
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My returning guest is Liz Yourr. She is founder
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Liz, this— the migration issue into Europe has been taking place
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for a long time, but there is kind of a breaking
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story right now involving Morocco and Spain and
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a piece of land I can't pronounce. Ceuta? Is that it?
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How do you pronounce it? Ceuta, yes. Fill us in on that,
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please, because I know you've been following that closely. Sure. About 5
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or 6 days ago, 60,000 young Moroccan military-aged
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men basically stormed the beaches of Ceuta,
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Spain. They came nearly all
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at once to this small town,
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and it was a massive invasion.
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Some say up to 80,000,
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100,000. And it— but the interesting
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thing father, was that it was captured on social media
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as these young men— there were no women
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and children that I saw in the videos— rampaged really through the town,
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burning cars, looting stores, breaking into homes,
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attacking citizens. And they weren't fleeing
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a war-torn country, nor were they fleeing
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climate change, quote unquote. They were literally organized
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on social media to hit the beaches of Spain.
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Largely because there were some— a new
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socialist prime minister, new laws in Spain
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that were going to make it more difficult to deport illegal immigrants.
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Now we know that there's a second wave that's coming.
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Well, nearly all of the European leaders had
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a meltdown because this was seen by
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everybody as yet an invasion that was
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not plan not on anybody's radar. And as
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a result, they are closing the borders. The Meloni,
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the Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni of Italy, says that she's
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closing the borders to Spain.
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And what is especially frustrating
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is that, you know, Morocco going into Catholic Spain,
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these, these young men are from
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99% Muslim Morocco coming
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into Spain. They, you know,
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with their behavior in Ceuta,
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they just created immediate chaos.
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And the Prime Minister of Spain actually said, well, most of them have been sent
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back. Well, that's not true. There have been extensive reports
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that they are being sent into the interior, not only
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of Spain, but then on to Europe.
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And it's, you know, this— and by
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the way, over 80, 90 people coming over in the
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boats were killed as a result of, you know, the boats, as a
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result of drowning. And what concerns me is the Vatican,
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you know, saying that this preference for wanting national
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sovereignty of all the countries in Europe,
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finally saying we want our national sovereignty, we want
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to protect our civilization, branding that as a grave sin
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in any country that wants to have a border
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to protect its country from, you know,
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what we just saw happening in Spain is
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calling that a wall of indifference.
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So, you know, what is— this has begun,
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I think, the— finally, we're now having
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the discussion and attention on this
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issue that is Europe going to seal its borders,
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protect its waters, and— or are they they going to continue
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to let this mass Islamic invasion coming
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into Western civilization? You know, this, you know,
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there, as I said, there was no war in Morocco
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to flee from. Um, there were no women, elderly,
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sick, or defenseless children in this invasion.
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This was organized to take advantage
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of the vast welfare system in Spain.
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And again, you know, this You know, we have a Pope that
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says, I bow to your dignity. Well, if you look at what went on in
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the streets of Soweto, Spain, you would
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not be bowing to anybody's dignity. You would be,
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as a citizen of Soweto, they were saying they were getting
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their guns and they were, you know, fighting back. But again,
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the Spanish bishops decided that they were going
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to do everything they could to ensure that these illegal
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immigrants who stormed the beaches would be— in fact,
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you know, many people in Soweto were saying, this is an invading
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army in our respect. But the bishops were asking
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for 100% donation of all the collections at Masses
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to go to these invaders. Was there
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any money to go for the people who had their shops vandalized or their property
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destroyed? No, of course not. Of course not. And, you know, at lowest
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estimate, there were 40,000 people who showed
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up. Practically in a day. The population of the town is
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about 83,000, and 40,000
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is the low estimate of the newcomers,
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the cultural enrichers, as we are told.
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I find that boggling. You know, isn't it the case,
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Liz, that when you finance and incentivize something, you get more of
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it? I mean, I've seen the videos. I've seen the pictures. These are people who
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who, I mean, it was like the gold rush. It was,
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Father. And, you know, you make a very good point when you talk about,
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you know, incentivizing. 32% of
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the population of Spain are poor women
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and children. They're not getting the benefits
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that the illegal immigrants are getting. They're not getting all the
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incentives from the Catholic bishops. They're living
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below the poverty line. And they are the ones
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who end up suffering because of this mass migration.
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And so, I think the important thing is that we need
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to have a real discussion in Europe,
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in Britain, and in America about this,
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what I would call jihad civilization. I mean, we know that
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this is precisely what is happening. We know
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we can see it in Europe, as well as in in Britain,
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the Sharia courts. We see the increase,
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you know, throughout Europe of the rapes in Spain,
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in Norway, in Sweden.
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The statistics are staggering. And yet we
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have not been allowed to have that discussion because of press
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censorship, because of the political correctness of, you can't,
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you're called an Islamophobe if you have these discussions.
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And yet that we have a right to, number one,
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protect the Christian civilization
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in Europe, and to have a discussion about all
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of the churches that are being burned down in France,
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magnificent Gothic cathedrals being burned to the
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ground, the defacement of churches as
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a result of this wanting to move
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out Christianity and install mosques around
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all of Europe. And that is precisely not only what's happening
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in Europe, it's happening in Canada and now happening in the United
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States. And I think, you know, the time is
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long past to begin to really talk
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about this. And unfortunately, Father, we need the Church
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to be the voice of Catholicism, of Christianity,
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of protecting our magnificent culture that was built.
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You know, it was the popes who protected Christianity
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in Europe 700 years ago in the Crusades. And yet,
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I think it's going to have to be the laity that rises up and
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maybe a handful of bishops. Well, at the same time,
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you know, Mrs. Sarah Molele, who's been LARPing as the Archbishop
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of Canterbury recently, got a very warm reception in Rome.
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She's now on an apology tour of Africa. She might have just
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come back, where she's wearing Kenpe vestments. Because that's plausible.
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And basically, it's an apology. Please blame white European
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Christians for all of slavery, and we want to give
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you £100 million. The queue starts
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here. And I said, wait a minute, it's not your money. What about
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all the Christians who sacrificed to stop
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slavery? I mean, the British Empire shed a lot of blood and
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treasure to stop slave trade, and I don't hear anybody talking about the Barbary pirates
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abducting over a million Christians to Africa
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as slaves. Am I just looking in the wrong places, or are people not talking
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about this? No, people aren't talking about it. First of all, you know,
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England should be very proud of Wilberforce and, you know,
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the ending of slavery, largely because of
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the work in England. And by the way,
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Archbishop Molele, an estimated 388 million
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Christians are facing high levels of persecution and
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discrimination all over Africa.
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1 in 7 Christians globally experience hostility
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for their faith. Over 50,000 Christians
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have been targeted and killed in Nigeria since 2009,
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and the death toll consistently exceeds
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4,000 in the region. Violence has
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escalated significantly in 2025 and '26 in
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Nigeria. I mean, These, you know,
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and we hear nothing about the genocide and persecution
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of Christians who can find their— I mean, it's so admirable.
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They continue to go to Mass knowing that
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at any moment Islamic gangs with
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guns and machine guns and machetes can show up
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at Mass and kill them all. I mean, last week I think there was 31
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that were killed. I mean, and Open
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Doors and all the human rights organizations have
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been documenting. But no, it's not politically correct
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for Sarah Millely and the King of England,
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who is now the king of all faiths,
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not the Christian faith. Yeah, supposedly he was defender
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of the faith, and now he's just defender of faith, uh, in general,
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which I'm gonna, I'm gonna bite my tongue. I was about to say something very
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impolite. I agree with you, is, the people who should
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have been speaking up, really, for decades. I mean, we haven't even gotten into
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the whole issue of the grooming gangs and the systematic rape of white Christian
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girls throughout Britain, which has been conducted
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for decades, for at least 50 years, if not 70.
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And there has scarcely been a reckoning of that as
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well. And I don't understand why former Christendom
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has a death wish. Friends, when we come back, we're going to continue our conversation.
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With Liz Yorke. She's founder of Your Children, an international child
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Yore, and we're talking about a closer look at migration.
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Liz, I was thinking, we're talking about things in the United
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States that would get us arrested in Britain for sure, and probably other
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places in Europe as well. And we say, well, you know,
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we've got the First Amendment. The First Amendment is a piece of paper.
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And if you don't enforce it, it's just a piece of paper. It's like a
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victim of domestic abuse saying, I can't be beaten anymore.
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I have a restraining order. If there's no will to enforce it, there are laws
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on the books that are not being enforced, and who
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pays the price? I mean, it's been documented, hasn't it, that a disproportionate
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of these new arrivals end up on welfare for generations.
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They commit the disproportionate amount of violent crimes,
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disproportionate percentage of violent crimes against women, and there has
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been this systematic rape of young English
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Christian white girls throughout Britain for
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decades. I don't hear the feminists talking about
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this. I don't hear the MeToo movement rallying there, and I'm
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scratching my head and saying, why, oh why, why aren't Christians standing
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up for themselves? Why can't we at least say
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who the assailants are? What's going on
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here? Well, Father, you're right. The feminists have been woefully
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negligent, silent, stone-cold silent on
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this issue. I think it's a matter of being PC.
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That is their ultimate goal, is to be politically correct
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and to kneel down and bow at Islam
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is actually more important than fighting for your
28:38
fellow females. And I think, you know,
28:41
what we have seen is now the left and the Muslim alliance,
28:46
the Red Green Alliance is what it is called, has now formed
28:50
to destroy Christianity in the West.
28:54
And so, the left for the time being is
28:57
a partner with the Islamic invasion.
29:01
Unfortunately, what they do not realize is that once the Muslims
29:06
assume total power and dominance, the left will, you know,
29:09
the homosexuals, you know, those that they don't share their
29:13
views with, they'll be the first to go. But, you know,
29:16
Europe is on the death rows of the lowest birth rate.
29:20
PC has been, you know, civilization destroyer.
29:24
We in the United States, who was it who said we are one generation
29:28
away from, you know, losing our liberty and democracy?
29:32
You know, I remember not so long ago during the Biden administration,
29:36
where we were told that the FBI was
29:40
looking into traditional Catholics as domestic terrorists.
29:44
So I don't presume that our Constitution is going
29:48
to protect us. It's going to protect us with brave patriots
29:52
speaking up and fighting this death rattle
29:56
suicide of the West, this hostile takeover
30:01
and capitulation to Islamic cultural standards.
30:06
What's going on? I think there's several causes of the submission
30:10
to Islam. There's several complex causes going on,
30:14
and you, as, you know, brilliant Jesuit,
30:18
would know better than I. But I do think, number one,
30:21
there's fear. There's fear of, you know, they've seen the Charlie
30:25
Hebdo assassination, the Bataclan,
30:29
you know, the, um, in the theater where there was
30:32
hundreds of of French people who were killed,
30:35
Salman Rushdie, the concert in Manchester.
30:39
You go on and on, and they've seen the destruction
30:44
in Africa. And frankly, they're content to let the destruction in Africa
30:48
go on without raising their voices, knowing it's going to be
30:52
at our shores. And I think that there is this submission
30:57
to be tolerant and welcoming, and that's a general naivete
31:01
towards Islam, and it's very, very dangerous.
31:05
And I think, you know, to be honest, I think we've lost faith in Christianity.
31:10
We have a sense of cultural shame about, you know,
31:13
what Christianity is all about, fighting for our
31:17
values. And Catholic leaders are at the
31:20
forefront of coddling Islam,
31:24
and they have done this through the interfaith dialogue
31:28
I call it the dialogue delusion that was led decades
31:32
ago by Ted McCarrick, the serial global
31:36
sexual predator, who was really— remember,
31:41
he was at Ground Zero with the imams
31:44
demanding that we build
31:48
a mosque on the site of 9/11. He was
31:52
there promoting Islam along with Pope
31:57
Francis is saying that God, the Abraham Islamic Declaration, the Abu
32:01
Dhabi Declaration, all religions are
32:05
willed by God. So there's been this ongoing coddling
32:09
intolerance of Muslims without
32:14
discussing, and this is where we really have to wake up.
32:17
People need to educate themselves about taqiyya,
32:21
which is deception. There is in several sections
32:26
in the Quran, about deceiving
32:30
the infidels. To promote Islam,
32:34
you can lie. For example, you can lie about being an unaccompanied
32:38
minor child, right? You can lie when you take the stand and say, oh yes,
32:42
I will return my American-born children to their mother, when in
32:45
fact they have no intention of doing that. People have got to— and
32:50
there are some great books out there. William Kilpatrick
32:54
has a great book about what Catholics need to know about Islam. There is a
32:57
wonderful book book by Steve Coughlin,
33:00
Bridge Building to Nowhere, talking about the interfaith dialogue.
33:04
What is interesting, Father, is that in the Holy Land
33:08
Foundation trial in Texas, the FBI were able to
33:12
recover the memorandum of the Muslim Brotherhood that
33:16
talked about what they call civilization jihad, which is
33:20
the infiltration through the interfaith
33:23
dialogue to, yes,
33:27
to absolutely take over
33:30
Christianity through this tolerance, through this
33:34
acceptance of Muslims, through this acceptance
33:38
of mass mosques, through this acceptance of selling Catholic
33:43
churches to mosques and to Islamic communities.
33:46
Right, so Buffalo is notorious for that, yeah. Right, right.
33:50
And so this has been a process, a slow,
33:54
um, degenerative process that has been taking place in,
33:58
in the name of tolerance and mercy and kindness.
34:02
And what we've lost is we've lost our ability to discern.
34:06
We have not educated ourselves about Islam.
34:10
And now we're in the position of— we're in the battle for our
34:14
lives, for our society, for our civilization. And it's coming to
34:18
our shores, and it's already, you know, all of our
34:22
ancestors in Ireland and England and over in Europe, they are
34:26
in— is Europe going to survive? I don't know.
34:30
And so, this is something that
34:33
it's all Americans, it's game on.
34:37
We need to educate ourselves because it's coming to our local communities,
34:41
as we've seen in Texas, where they're building massive mosques,
34:45
where you have the prayer to call 5 times a day, where you
34:49
have the Sharia law being
34:53
imposed in our communities, where you have, you know,
34:57
500,000 women and children, girls and women
35:00
in the United States being at a threat to female
35:04
genital mutilation and child marriage in the United
35:08
States. Father, what I have learned in working in this field is
35:12
that Muslims do not leave leave their practices,
35:17
many of them barbaric practices, culture behind.
35:21
They bring them with it. They bring them to
35:24
the United States. We have no-go zones in
35:28
Europe, and we have the practice of
35:32
Sharia. So it is— we've been naive
35:35
much too long. And the other piece is, is that it's time for us to
35:40
start taking our faith seriously again,
35:43
because that is what gives us the ability to discern,
35:47
the courage to fight, and to really
35:51
evangelize. Right. I mean,
35:54
Christ is unique. Christ is God Almighty's
35:58
best and final offer. It's not
36:02
a privileged option. All grace, all salvation comes
36:06
from him. Now, Jesuits were renowned as
36:10
missionaries, and my Jesuit brothers got on boats and went to the
36:14
ends of the earth expecting to never come back home and
36:18
very likely to die horribly.
36:21
They didn't do that for the sake of dialogue.
36:24
It was that Christ was worth living
36:28
for and dying for. I forget which archbishop was
36:32
in the United States, but he said that Muslims have
36:35
a God-given right to build mosques. In America.
36:40
I don't know how you square that with, you know, Leo XIII,
36:44
for example, or Pius X, or King Louis IX of
36:48
France, for that matter. So, ordinary people
36:52
listening to us, you know, they're driving home from work,
36:55
they're taking the kids to soccer practice, they're thinking about making
36:59
dinner. What can ordinary people do? Well, what ordinary
37:02
people can do is turn off the television, start reading about,
37:06
you know, with social media. There's, you know, there's Robert Spencer,
37:10
um, there's all sorts of, you know, bansharia.com.
37:13
There's all sorts of resources out there to educate
37:16
yourself. You don't have to be an Islamic scholar, but you need to know
37:20
about taqiyyah. You need to know about the culture that is happening in
37:24
Europe. You need to read the UK
37:29
gang rape report, right, that just
37:33
came out about about the 250,000
37:36
poor white girls in Britain who
37:40
were gang raped by Pakistani Muslim
37:44
men. This report is hair-raising. And Father,
37:48
I've seen it all in child welfare. I have never,
37:52
ever in my life seen such brutality and monstrosity
37:56
in criminal behavior that is coming to our shores. Folks,
38:00
unless we speak and use our God-given voice
38:05
and really embrace the Prince of Peace. I mean, Christ is the
38:09
Prince of Peace. And that's— and that is why,
38:13
you know, that is why we had popes battling Islam,
38:17
because they knew that a Christian Europe would be a
38:21
peaceful Europe. So, um, I think I, I really encourage people,
38:25
um, I'm always posting on my Substack
38:29
and also on my website resources resources for parents
38:33
to read and to really educate, because it's coming to your school boards,
38:37
it's coming to your local communities. It's time
38:40
to get educated. And additionally is to
38:45
really embrace Christianity, your Catholic faith,
38:48
and that will give you the sacramental grace
38:53
to do the battle that lies ahead, because I, you know, I fear we
38:57
have a battle ahead of Yes. Well, no, we have to be courageous. I know
39:00
there's a law under consideration in Massachusetts that's
39:04
going to set up committees to ensure that Muslim children aren't bullied.
39:08
I don't want anyone to be bullied, but why is there special protection for
39:13
Muslims? That makes me wonder as well. Friends, we cannot afford
39:17
to be naïve. We have to be well-informed.
39:21
We're going to have some great resources in our show notes today.
39:25
Liz Yore, thank you for a fascinating conversation.
39:29
Keep bringing, sounding the alarm.
39:33
There is more work to be done. Very quickly, where can people find more of
39:37
your work? I'm at, on Substack, Elizabeth Yore.
39:40
YoreChildren, Y-O-R-E-Children.com is my website.
39:44
I'm also doing videos for BanSharia.com
39:48
and And you can find my work everywhere,
39:52
posting every day. I'm also on Twitter and Getter
39:56
and Truth Social under Elizabeth Yore. Elizabeth, thanks for
40:00
a great conversation. I look forward to next time. I'm Father
40:04
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41:24
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of truth with clarity and charity. Well, here it is, the last segment of a
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Timely Tuesday. You know what that means— you and me sharing timely thoughts, reflecting on
41:42
what we've heard today. My guest was Lizior,
41:46
and we were taking a closer look at migration.
41:50
As I'm recording this, I'm mindful of the fact that yesterday
41:54
the governor of Massachusetts surrounded by
41:59
a score of very smiling women,
42:02
signed a bill into law, basically allowing
42:06
abortion on demand with no trimester
42:11
limit at all, and it joins a number of states. There are now 4 where
42:15
you can have abortion on demand with no gestational limit,
42:19
so it includes Alaska, Colorado, District of
42:23
Columbia, Massachusetts, as of yesterday, Michigan,
42:26
Minnesota, New Jersey— my home state— New Mexico,
42:29
Oregon, and Vermont. And you might be asking, but Father,
42:33
what does this have to do with migration? Well,
42:37
I'm going to tell you something that was told to me several years ago by
42:40
a person— let's just say is in a position to know these things— because
42:45
he was talking about where church bureaucracies put their
42:49
time and attention and energy. And he said, Father, you have to understand,
42:53
there is no money in defending
42:57
the unborn. There's a lot of money in
43:01
processing migrants. Now, the bishops
43:05
of Massachusetts, to their credit, denounced this law as
43:10
a radical measure that's gravely immoral, talked about the
43:13
sacred dignity of human beings, spoke of the sacred God given human
43:18
dignity every life has from conception to natural death,
43:22
renewed its opposition to late-term abortion,
43:25
a call to action and pastoral accompaniment to
43:30
people who are affected by abortion, find themselves in crises,
43:33
etc. So they said and did a lot of the right things,
43:36
so good for them. But what about this notion that there is
43:40
a lot of money to be made in processing
43:44
migrants. Well, I just found a new
43:49
site called effort.news, and I'm looking at this story here.
43:52
Listen to this title: The $1.2 Billion
43:56
Refugee Services Program That Funds Pro-Asylum Religious
44:00
Groups. And then the subtitle is: Financially,
44:04
These Are Migrant Contractors with a Minor Stake in
44:08
Churches. So I'm just going to read to you some of this
44:12
story here so you can see where I'm going with it. The author says,
44:15
in 2021, the Biden Health and Human Services Department gave
44:18
$1.2 billion to the obscure
44:22
Preferred Communities grant program, nearly 10
44:25
times the money it received under the previous Trump administration.
44:29
The purpose of these grants was to support the resettlement of
44:32
especially vulnerable populations of newly arrived refugees in
44:36
preferred locations. Well, gosh,
44:40
you know, what kind of money are we talking about? Well, the US Conference
44:45
of Catholic Bishops leads the way with $141 million,
44:49
which, by the way, according to other numbers I'm
44:53
looking at, was 80% of their annual
44:56
budget. 80%. Now, 80% of
45:01
one's budget, regardless of the size of a budget, that's That's a
45:04
big chunk of the budget. Even I, humanities major
45:08
that I am, can figure that
45:12
out. So the observation according to the author is each of these organizations,
45:17
including the USCCB, is now primarily funded
45:20
through migrant resettlement grants. Financially,
45:24
these religious organizations are migrant contractors with
45:28
a minor stake in churches. Politically, they are fervent and
45:32
frequently cited critics of Trump's immigration policies.
45:36
Now, is it possible that their criticism
45:41
of the Trump immigration policies has some
45:44
financial basis to it? Now, I always have to say I'm
45:48
not an apologist for any politician, any party, any platform.
45:52
I agree with the Bible, put not your trust in princes. But is it
45:56
inconceivable that one of the reasons
46:00
that Catholic Charities, USCCB,
46:02
Church World Service, Episcopal Migration Ministries,
46:07
that they all hate Trump so very,
46:10
very much is because he's turning off the financial
46:14
spigot. Is it improbable that
46:19
that's what's going on? Now,
46:21
starting following the Ukraine war, the Department of
46:25
Health and Human Services received $3.78 billion from for
46:30
funding, uh, refugee settlement.
46:33
And not all of it, not most
46:37
of it, went to help war refugees from Ukraine.
46:42
There was $1.99 billion that
46:47
was for other populations. And so the question
46:51
becomes, what are we doing here? What are we
46:55
doing What does it mean when
46:59
churchmen across denominations effectively,
47:05
in terms of their business model, are primarily
47:12
migration resettlement service agencies?
47:16
Now, there was an observation in organizational psychology,
47:19
goes back to the '70s, It says
47:22
the purpose of an organization is what it does.
47:26
The purpose of an organization is what it does. And it seems
47:30
to me that for a lot of church institutions,
47:34
especially Catholic ones, but not only Catholic ones,
47:37
the purpose is to get government grants
47:41
to process migrants,
47:44
not defend the unborn, not defend the
47:49
dignity of human life from conception to natural death, although we
47:52
do talk a good game about that mostly, but it's to
47:56
cash in on the largesse of processing migrants.
48:00
Now, I have said in this venue very, very many times
48:05
that a Christian community is in trouble when
48:08
they start outsourcing the corporal works
48:13
of mercy. To governments. When in effect, rather than
48:17
feeding the poor and homeless ourselves through our charity and
48:21
through religious communities, we start basically
48:25
becoming employees of government institutions,
48:30
taking our, our cut off the top and redistributing other
48:34
people's wealth. Because government funds always,
48:38
always, always comes with strings strings.
48:41
Caesar holds the gold, and so
48:45
Caesar makes the rules, and Caesar gives out
48:50
coin only for his own purposes.
48:55
And my question is, are we really so sure?
48:58
Are we so very sure that
49:02
the purposes of Caesar in distributing his gold to the
49:06
church churches, the purposes of Caesar are in harmony
49:10
with the gospel, with what Christ intended.
49:15
And what does it say about the health and state— and I hate
49:20
this word— vibrancy of our Christian communities when
49:24
we can no longer perform the works of charity
49:28
on our own and we have become absolutely,
49:32
utterly dependent upon government largesse.
49:36
I think we're failing. And I also have
49:40
reason to believe that all these people administering these programs make a
49:43
pretty nice living. There's the cautionary tale for Christians.
49:47
So many Christians start out doing good and they end
49:51
up doing well. So we have to look in the mirror, and then we have
49:55
to examine it— we have to examine our conscience. I'm Jesuit Father Robert McTeague,
49:59
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