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Self-Declared Evil Stepmom GUILTY in freezing death of 8-year-old Thomas Valva · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace Bonachelle. In the Last of Days,
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Speaker 1: a self declared evil step mom is convicted of murder
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Speaker 1: after she helps her NYPD cop fiancee shove his son,
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Speaker 1: an eight year old autistic boy, out into the garage floor,
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Speaker 1: where he froze to death. She admits, quote, I was evil. Well,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if that would come into evidence, but
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Speaker 1: it certainly should have. I Meancy Grace, this is crime Stories.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us here at Fox Nation in
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Speaker 1: series X one eleven, making both sons Anthony and Thomas
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Speaker 1: sleep on the cement floor of the garage until little Thomas,
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Speaker 1: an autistic child just eight years old, freezes to death.
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Speaker 1: What was the nail and the coffin the death knel
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Speaker 1: for this evil duo? Text messages proving they were in
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Speaker 1: on it together again, thanks for being with us. How
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Speaker 1: did this whole horrible story begin? What do we know
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Speaker 1: about the facts supporting the conviction? The guilty verdict of
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Speaker 1: a classic evil stepmother? Take a listen to our friends
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Speaker 1: at crime online dot com. It's a cold February morning
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Speaker 1: in the teens when Long Island police get a call
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Speaker 1: about a nun responsive child just nine forty am. According
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Speaker 1: to police dispatch, the boy fell in the driveway at
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Speaker 1: his home. When detectives arrived. Thomas Valvo's father is performing
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Speaker 1: CPR on the eight year old. Valvo's taken by ambulance
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Speaker 1: to Long Island Community Hospital, where he dies. Doctors determined
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Speaker 1: boy's head and facial injuries are inconsistent with the account
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Speaker 1: of what happened. Once More, the boy's body temperature is
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Speaker 1: just seventy six degrees. Joining me an all star panel
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Speaker 1: to try and apply logic to this scenario with me
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Speaker 1: twenty seven years on Metro major case including swat now
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Speaker 1: turned lawyer James Shellnutt at Shellnutt Lawfirm dot com. Doctor
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Speaker 1: Jeff Gardeer, Board Certified Clinical Psychologist, Professor Behavioral Medicine at
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Speaker 1: truro at Doctor Jeff Gardeer with Ane dot com, author
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Speaker 1: of the Causes of Autism. Stephen Lampley, author, speaker, former
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Speaker 1: cop and undercover author of twelve and Murdered on Amazon
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Speaker 1: and you can find him at Stephen David Lampley dot com.
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Speaker 1: Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University, author of Blood Beneath My
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Speaker 1: Feet on Amazon. Joseph Scott Morgan with US Death investigator
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Speaker 1: and lead news anchor for w DBO. Ray Kiputo, Ray Kipputo,
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Speaker 1: tell me who, what, where? When? Why? Let's start with who.
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Speaker 1: Who is the dead child? Well done? Child is a
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Speaker 1: precious little boy named Thomas Volva. He was just a
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Speaker 1: little eight year old boy. Nance he lived on Long Island.
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Speaker 1: You know, you said, to know eight year old kids,
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Speaker 1: you can imagine what they're into, things like video games
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Speaker 1: and playing with their friends. So this is a little
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Speaker 1: eight year old boy who's into regular things like every
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Speaker 1: other eight year old boy. I know. I remember when
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Speaker 1: John David was eight years old, living life with his family,
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Speaker 1: his brothers and sisters there on Long Island, and then
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Speaker 1: we get a nine one one call that he's dead
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Speaker 1: in the driveway. Josephe got Morgan death investigator. It was
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Speaker 1: a developing story and it was full of disturbing information.
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Speaker 1: To fall in the driveway and get lacerations on your
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Speaker 1: head and skull and die from them, that's one thing.
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Speaker 1: But for your body temperature to be seventy six degrees
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Speaker 1: that's a whole another can of worms right there. How
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Speaker 1: does your body get down to seventy six degrees? Well,
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Speaker 1: it all goes to environment doesn't it, Nancy. So if
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Speaker 1: you're in a contained area, for instance, where the in
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Speaker 1: what we call the ambient environmental temperature, that that air
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Speaker 1: that kind of surrounds your body from above, below, and
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Speaker 1: from the sides. If it is low, all right, and
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Speaker 1: you're not shielded. Your body's not shielded other than say
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Speaker 1: your layer of fat and maybe a thin layer of
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Speaker 1: clothing your body. And it's just horrible to think about
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Speaker 1: literally assumes the environmental temperature or struggles to get down
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Speaker 1: to that level because you can't generate in her your
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Speaker 1: heat pump within your body can't keep up. The little
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Speaker 1: the little furnace in your body can't keep up any longering.
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Speaker 1: So if you're talking about a small child, as Ray
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Speaker 1: had just mentioned, remember this little boy is only eight
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Speaker 1: years old, Nancy, we have to assume he doesn't have
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Speaker 1: a lot of insulation on him. So his little body
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Speaker 1: is struggling all the time. And at the end of
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Speaker 1: the day, you said your body is struggling to get
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Speaker 1: down to the ambiance temperature, in other words, the temperature
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Speaker 1: of your surroundings. But I thought your body's struggled to
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Speaker 1: keep your temperature up to protect your internal organs. It
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Speaker 1: does but well, which one is it? Joe Scott. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I'm just a trial lawyer, but even I can't hear
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Speaker 1: it can't be both. Well, no it can't. But there
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Speaker 1: is a paradoxical. It's paradoxical that occurs. Your body is fighting,
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Speaker 1: but you don't have the ability to fight, particularly at
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Speaker 1: this age and with this low body weight, lack of insulation,
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Speaker 1: so it's being driven down by the forces of nature.
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Speaker 1: So you've got this paradox it's going. As a matter
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Speaker 1: of fact, interestingly enough, did you know that there's a
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Speaker 1: condition that's called paradix undressing with hypothermic people. They literally
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Speaker 1: begin to peel their clothes off the colder they get,
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Speaker 1: and it's this real weird thing that happens in kind
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Speaker 1: of a fight or flight mode. So there's a lot
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Speaker 1: to unpack your relative to how your body interacts with
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Speaker 1: the environment, particularly cold environment. Answers, Okay, to clear up
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Speaker 1: my question to you, I believe your body struggles, as
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Speaker 1: you called it, your internal furnace to keep your temperature
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Speaker 1: around ninety eight point six. It does not struggle to
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Speaker 1: get your body down to the ambiance temperature in the room.
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Speaker 1: With paradoxical undressing. Your body and its effort, that little
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Speaker 1: furnace you referred to, and its effort to keep your
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Speaker 1: body warm. Your brain starts thinking you are warm, and
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Speaker 1: people start taking their clothes off. I remember the first
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Speaker 1: time I saw that phenomena just got morgan. I couldn't
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Speaker 1: believe that the person had died hypothermia, as they had
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Speaker 1: taken all their clothes off. I thought someone had to
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Speaker 1: have done that to them, but no. People very often
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Speaker 1: start removing their clothes because their body temperature, their furnace
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Speaker 1: tells them their brain that they're overheating because the body
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Speaker 1: is trying to overheat to protect these eternal organs. Did
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Speaker 1: I say that correctly, Joe Scott, Yes, ma'am, you did,
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Speaker 1: and you're absolutely right. It's one of the out of
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Speaker 1: all the death investigations that I've conducted over you know,
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Speaker 1: gunshot wounds many times are very simple compared to something
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Speaker 1: like hypothermia, because it's not just what's going on externally
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Speaker 1: with the body and those things that are kind of
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Speaker 1: impacting body, it's what's going on at a psychological From
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Speaker 1: a psychological perspective, somebody that's attempting to get warm and
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Speaker 1: they can't get warm or they perceived themselves to be
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Speaker 1: too warm, and so it's an interesting way. We're kind
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Speaker 1: of engineered, and it's a very difficult kind of death
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Speaker 1: investigation to conduct. And Stephen Lampley, author, speaker or former
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Speaker 1: cop undercover, author of twelve and Murdered on Amazon, Steve
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Speaker 1: right off the bat, the cops think it doesn't jive
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Speaker 1: because based on the nature of the injuries, the lacerations
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Speaker 1: to the face and the skull versus the cold temperature
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Speaker 1: of the little boy, those two don't jive. What do
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Speaker 1: you do in that situation where you get to the
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Speaker 1: home you find a child who allegedly fell in the driveway,
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Speaker 1: but it's not jiving with the manner of death financy.
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Speaker 1: It depends on the injuries. And in this case, it's
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Speaker 1: my understanding that the police officers saw the injuries. But
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Speaker 1: it's my understanding when they saw the injuries right off
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Speaker 1: the bat, red flash popped up. You know, when you fall,
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Speaker 1: your injuries are going to be in a certain location,
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Speaker 1: depending on where for how the circumstances that you fall.
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Speaker 1: These injuries right off the bat did not jive with
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Speaker 1: a fall. And it's interesting, Steve Lampley, I want to
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Speaker 1: follow upon what you're saying. To fall on a driveway,
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Speaker 1: which in this case is a smooth albeit asphalt surface,
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Speaker 1: is different from falling down. Let's just pretend a flight
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Speaker 1: of brick stairs. You fall down brick stairs, you could
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Speaker 1: get cuts lacerations all over yourself. But when you take
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Speaker 1: a single fall on a driveway, you would expect, for instance,
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Speaker 1: Time Stories with Nancy Grace for those of you just
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Speaker 1: joining us. A self described evil stepmother has been found
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Speaker 1: guilty of murder murder of an eight year old autistic boy,
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Speaker 1: the son of her NYPD New York Police Department cops fiance,
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Speaker 1: Angelina Paulina, admits in testimony she helped send her stepsons
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Speaker 1: Thomas and Anthony, forcing them to sleep in the garage
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Speaker 1: at their Long Island home for months while she and
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Speaker 1: her fiance and her daughters slept nice and cozy and
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Speaker 1: the heat control temperatures inside the home. I was evil.
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Speaker 1: I exiled them, she says. I didn't know what to do. Really,
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Speaker 1: you didn't know what to do. You're engaged to a
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Speaker 1: cop and you don't know what to do. And this
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Speaker 1: went on for months. Now it's a day late to
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Speaker 1: daughter Short when she claims she did not believe little
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Speaker 1: boy Thomas was near death and this was just before
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Speaker 1: he died of hypothermia, his body temperature falling to seventy
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Speaker 1: six degrees. I'm not a doctor. I didn't see he
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Speaker 1: was blue. That's her defense. Really, what more do we know? Well,
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Speaker 1: the truer word could never be spoken, and that word
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Speaker 1: is guilty. The evil stepmother of an autistic little eight
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Speaker 1: year old boy follows her boyfriend to the pokey, not
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Speaker 1: just the pokey, the penitentiary, and I hope it's a
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Speaker 1: really bad one. There was more evidence at trial. A
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Speaker 1: woman named Tina Licari, that's the evil stepmother, Angela Paulina's
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Speaker 1: daughter's piano teacher swore under oath she saw Paulina have
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Speaker 1: quote vicious outburst toward the boys. At one point, she
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Speaker 1: even heard Paulina mocking, making fun of little boy Thomas's autism,
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Speaker 1: taunting him for not being able to talk. What a
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Speaker 1: grown up bully? A bully story ending in murder, the
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Speaker 1: death of an eight year old boy. Take a listen
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Speaker 1: to our friend Stone Grisming news to have Long Island
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Speaker 1: disturbing information about the death of an eight year old
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Speaker 1: boy released by police just a short time ago. Police
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Speaker 1: now say Michael Valva and his fiance Angela Paulina left
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Speaker 1: Thomas Valva in an unheated garage, unheated and unfinished overnight
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Speaker 1: in freezing temperatures. They say. When he was taken to
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Speaker 1: the hospital where he was pronounced dead, his body temperature
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Speaker 1: was seventy six degrees. As we first told you, police
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Speaker 1: responded to reports that the child fell in the driveway
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Speaker 1: of the home. This was on Bittersweet Lane last week,
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Speaker 1: but investigators say the eight year old suffered head and
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Speaker 1: facial injuries, inconsistent with those reports. The couple also have
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Speaker 1: five other children, including two other sons and Paulina's three daughters,
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Speaker 1: so that six children in all, What if anything can
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Speaker 1: we learn from them? Take a listen to this was
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Speaker 1: was Anthony and Tommy tried to ask for help, call
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Speaker 1: or when they were inside the garage. Did you hear
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Speaker 1: of them? Oh? Yeah, did you hear the noise? Than crazy?
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Speaker 1: He said that it really had a coupe okay, And
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Speaker 1: what happened that they couldn't go inside the house the
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Speaker 1: pan they're beholden something area and that stayed out all
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Speaker 1: day and any Attie Thomas stayed home at the door locked.
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Speaker 1: The door locked, so they weren't able to get out
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Speaker 1: from the garage an hold they came back home. Did
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Speaker 1: Anthony and Tommy said about this to any anybody in school? No?
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Speaker 1: Because then get because they would be punished for like
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Speaker 1: three days. And and what would be the punishment What
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Speaker 1: would happened to them thanking room for three days? That
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Speaker 1: could be dunning in that to anying and not doing anything?
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Speaker 1: M hm. They slapped in the butt, slapping the bat
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Speaker 1: would it hurt? You were hearing the little brother, that's
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Speaker 1: Andrew speaking, and he's being asked by Justina Valva if
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Speaker 1: he ever heard his brothers in the garage. The little boy,
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Speaker 1: and if you can make it out, would say they
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Speaker 1: would cry when they had to go to the bathroom,
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Speaker 1: but they were forced to hold it in. The little boy,
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Speaker 1: the little brother, Andrew says that the parents would be
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Speaker 1: gone all day and a lot the children in the
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Speaker 1: garage till they got home, but they would be beaten
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Speaker 1: if they told anyone at school about it. Take a
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Speaker 1: listen to more of what the little brother has to say.
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Speaker 1: Was there any other reason why that Angela put Anthony
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Speaker 1: and Tommy in the garage? Well, because they kept on
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Speaker 1: paying themselves, keep them peeing themselves. Yeah, because they the
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Speaker 1: middle of the night they had to go pee okay,
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Speaker 1: Mom den't allowed them okay, and then they kept on
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Speaker 1: peeing their parts because they weren't allowed to go in
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Speaker 1: the middle to night the bathroom. I want to stay
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Speaker 1: up on. They just in the bathroom just to prush
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Speaker 1: my teeth. Why I had to push my teeth because
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Speaker 1: I didn't push my teeth and I had I do
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Speaker 1: And they almost stated the bathroom for like three hours
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Speaker 1: when everyone was sleeping. But who told who? Who? You
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Speaker 1: had to stay there in the bathroom first pushing my key?
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Speaker 1: Who said that Angela and Dad angel and that Oh
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Speaker 1: my god, the voice you're hearing speaking to little brother
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Speaker 1: Andrew is their biological mother. That's just staying a zipko
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Speaker 1: valva And there's more. Brace yourself. Listen to this. When
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Speaker 1: Tommy and Anthony were in the garage today, get any
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Speaker 1: food from Dada and Angela? Only once a day? Only
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Speaker 1: once a day? And what was the food? What did
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Speaker 1: they get to eat? Just a sandwich? Vest just a sandwich?
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Speaker 1: What are they saying that They stated that they were hungry. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so what they were in the garage? Were you able
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Speaker 1: to go and visit them or your people couldn't I
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Speaker 1: couldn't why get trouble to get troubled too? Did you
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Speaker 1: ever see Anthony and Temnia now or video camera from
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Speaker 1: inside the garage? Over was cameras in the garage too?
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Speaker 1: There were cameras in the garage because wen't the seeing
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Speaker 1: and one like buy the dour steps? Okay? So when
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Speaker 1: Anthony in time you are coming from school, yea, go
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Speaker 1: these a bengo in the garage. They gotta go, Well,
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Speaker 1: go in your house to get through and then go
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Speaker 1: a garage. But for what what was the reason that
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Speaker 1: they would have to go in the garage in media
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Speaker 1: because they kept com peeing? Ever pitch cool? But did
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Speaker 1: they have accidents in school? So why why so if
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Speaker 1: they didn't have access, then in school, that's because we
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Speaker 1: go to the bathroomid school the teachers allows him okay,
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Speaker 1: and will happen? Adda's house the opposite the opposite? You safe, no, winter,
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Speaker 1: You're safe. Hello you. I can hardly stand to listen
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Speaker 1: to it. Let me go out to the professor of
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Speaker 1: behavioral Medicine at Turo College, author of the Causes of Autism.
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Speaker 1: We know that Thomas, just eight years old, was under
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Speaker 1: the spectrum. Doctor Jeff, you know what, you and I
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Speaker 1: have gone through a lot of cases together. But when
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Speaker 1: I hear the little brother Andrew talking about what his
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Speaker 1: brothers endured. Here you have an eight year old boy
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Speaker 1: that's wedding his pants, and you know, doctor Jeff, classic
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Speaker 1: side classic of child abuse. Of course, they're going to
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Speaker 1: wet their pants when they're putting a garage every night. Absolutely,
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Speaker 1: And so what we're seeing here are a couple of
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Speaker 1: things going on very quickly. First of all, I want
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Speaker 1: to hear every last word. Okay, well you know, first
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Speaker 1: of all, they're not even allowing them to use bathroom
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Speaker 1: facilities properly. Um number two, when just like any child,
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Speaker 1: sometimes they may wet themselves here, they absolutely torture them.
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Speaker 1: And as part of that there now, these kids are fearful,
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Speaker 1: absolutely horrifically in fear, which then is that feedback loop
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Speaker 1: which causes them to continue to go to the bathroom
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Speaker 1: on themselves. So it's a no win situation for them.
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Speaker 1: And the worst thing of all of this, of course,
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Speaker 1: is the constant, and I'll say the word, the constant
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Speaker 1: torture of these children. No one one gets a call
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Speaker 1: that he fell in the driveway and died. But when
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Speaker 1: cops get there. The wounds to little Thomas's head are
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Speaker 1: not consistent with a single fall on the driveway and
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Speaker 1: his body temp seventy six degrees. James Shelnup, you were
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Speaker 1: on the force for nearly thirty years before you go
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Speaker 1: to law school way in. Yeah, this situation is just
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Speaker 1: absolutely heartbreaking. I've got a child that's on the ass
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Speaker 1: Burger's spectrum of autism, and then just to look at
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Speaker 1: this story and read this story is just heartbreaking. You know,
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Speaker 1: these kids, Nancy, are especially sensitive to things as well.
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Speaker 1: The autistic kids are sensitive to touch, he cold, sometimes
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Speaker 1: being yelled at, and you know that just magnifies the
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Speaker 1: torture of what it would be for even a child
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Speaker 1: that doesn't have ass Burgers. It's just heartbreaking. Door Jeff,
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Speaker 1: you actually wrote the book The Causes of Autism. You
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Speaker 1: can find doctor Jeff at doctor Jeff Guardier and that's
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Speaker 1: a gr D E r E dot com, longtime friend expert.
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Speaker 1: We go all the way back to court TV days,
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Speaker 1: doctor Jeff. I'm just listening to what James Shelnutt is saying.
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Speaker 1: What would it have been like for not just a
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Speaker 1: regular eight year old little boy, but a little boy
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Speaker 1: that's on a spectrum of autism, let's just say just
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Speaker 1: a very mild case. We see that he's mainstream, he's
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Speaker 1: going to regular school. But what would that be to
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Speaker 1: be in a freezing cold garage at night, all night long,
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Speaker 1: with no food and you can't go to the bathroom
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Speaker 1: where you'll be beaten. Absolutely, and James is absolutely correct
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Speaker 1: that for a child on the spectrum having sensory issues
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Speaker 1: at times, or issues communicating in a way that believe
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Speaker 1: that they may want to and that they're not able
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Speaker 1: to makes it difficult enough for them. So this was
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Speaker 1: a child, obviously who may not have completely understood the
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Speaker 1: reasons that he was being tortured and that others in
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Speaker 1: his home were being tortured, but absolutely felt the effects
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Speaker 1: and may have felt it a million times over. Given
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Speaker 1: that we know children that are on the spectrum, on
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Speaker 1: the spectrum look for us as their parents to protect them,
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Speaker 1: to give them support and to just have that warmth,
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Speaker 1: and that was missing from the parents. Certainly it wasn't
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Speaker 1: part of living in a garage, and so what happened
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Speaker 1: here was murderous, unconsionable, absolutely horrific. It brings tears to
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Speaker 1: my eyes as I speak to you about this right now. Well,
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Speaker 1: I have Shelna Guardier, Lampley, Morgan and Kipedita are sitting down.
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Speaker 1: You may need to lay down to hear this one.
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Speaker 1: This is our cut fourteen Jackie. Take a listen to
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Speaker 1: our friends at WABC seven New York. This is Kristin
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Speaker 1: Thorne speaking listen. Prosecutors say investigators reviewed surveillance cameras from
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Speaker 1: inside the couple's home, that the couple had a camera
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Speaker 1: inside the garage that was labeled kid's room, and that
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Speaker 1: two days prior to Thomas's death, video showed Thomas and
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Speaker 1: his brother sleeping inside the garage shivering. It shouldn't get
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Speaker 1: to the point that, you know, my son lost his
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Speaker 1: life to actually, you know, for for for somebody to
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Speaker 1: do something. These two pervs put their children and a
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Speaker 1: freezing cold garage and then watch them shivering on the
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Speaker 1: nanny cam. Okay, do I have that right? Ray Kaputo Wdbo.
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Speaker 1: Did they have a camera focused on the garage tie
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Speaker 1: old kid's room? Nancy, You're correct, Hit, And it's just
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Speaker 1: astonishing because if you've ever lived in New York or
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Speaker 1: a cold climate, you know that garages become freezers. Infrigerators
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Speaker 1: in the wintertime in sac you don't even if you
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Speaker 1: have soda, you don't even need to put it in
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Speaker 1: the fridge. You just leave it in the garage. Okay, Gardier,
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Speaker 1: we need a shrink. What the hey, they've got it
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Speaker 1: on video. You know how many times I chase my
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Speaker 1: daughter to make her wear a hoodie, to try to
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Speaker 1: entice her into wearing tights or long pants and not
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Speaker 1: be bare legged out in the cold. Do you know
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Speaker 1: how many times I go in their room and I
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Speaker 1: and check the temperature. They haven't complained ever, but I'm
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Speaker 1: constantly checking to make sure they're okay and they're comfy,
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Speaker 1: and it just makes me happy on the inside to
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Speaker 1: see them. I'll snuggle down in their beds and everything's fine.
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Speaker 1: I just I just can't believe that they watched them
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Speaker 1: on video freezing literally freezing to death, and they're all home. Guardier,
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Speaker 1: that's right. And it appears that the parents, Velva and
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Speaker 1: Paulina what they were doing where they were getting some
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Speaker 1: sort of creepy, eerie satisfaction out of watching these kids
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Speaker 1: not only freeze practically to death, but also the entertainment
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Speaker 1: from watching the suffering day Today Today these were obviously
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Speaker 1: not just murderous individuals, but certainly sadist in every way
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Speaker 1: one can imagine sick freaks wrought in hell. That is
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Speaker 1: a technical legal term that only these two deserve to
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Speaker 1: watch your baby freeze dead in the garage on the
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Speaker 1: nanny cam. And you've got the garage labeled kid's room,
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Speaker 1: and that's not intent. I don't know what is you
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Speaker 1: label the garage kids ram on the nanny cam feed
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Speaker 1: that you get on your cell phone or your laptop.
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Speaker 1: But as you may have guessed, this ain't the first time.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to our Cuttan. This is Kristen Thorne
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Speaker 1: w ABC seven. It was no secret the eight year
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Speaker 1: old had been suffering. CBS two obtained abuse complaint records
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Speaker 1: and custody hearing transcripts. Those judges seem like they just
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Speaker 1: didn't care. What about the case workers. The CPSKIS workers
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Speaker 1: also they extremely responsible for what happened to Tommy. Twenty
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Speaker 1: fourteen to twenty nineteen. Twenty one nine one one calls
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Speaker 1: to Nassau police from the couple's Valley Stream home mostly
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Speaker 1: visitation disputes. Twenty fifteen, contentious divorce battle begins court transcripts
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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. Judge admonishing the mother, Justina, who is representing herself,
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Speaker 1: desperately raising her hand. He has failed to pick up
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Speaker 1: our children twenty nine times, stopped talking as the judge
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Speaker 1: attorney for the children. I believe it might be time
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Speaker 1: for this court to make a change in custody. Mother
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Speaker 1: attempts to provide flash drive of documented abuse children starving,
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Speaker 1: accusations of physical abuse. Guy, he said to me, very
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Speaker 1: care to you where your money? Mister Mary? Why then
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Speaker 1: Gay's gonna pull me outside? Judge appears to wave away
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Speaker 1: flash drive. Not at this time, she's not complied with
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Speaker 1: any order, says the judge, scolding Justina for failure to
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Speaker 1: bring boys to court appointed attorney and dragging her feet
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Speaker 1: on doctor's evaluation. September twenty seventeen, Judge awards temporary custody
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Speaker 1: to the father. Order of protection issued against Justina without
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Speaker 1: explanation or without being required an explanation. Oh that's just
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Speaker 1: the tip of the ice, bark. Did you hear how
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Speaker 1: many nine on one calls there were? Take a listen
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Speaker 1: now to Shirley Chee and Pixie eleven news. My children
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Speaker 1: were basically starved to death. Justina Valbot can't bring back
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Speaker 1: her eight year old son, Thomas, a special need student
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Speaker 1: with mild autism, but she can demand accountability from the
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Speaker 1: child welfare workers and judges who gave custody of her
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Speaker 1: three sons to ex husband Michael Valva and his girlfriend
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Speaker 1: Angela Polina. What do you have to say for yourself?
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Speaker 1: Valvat said her ten year old son was also forced
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Speaker 1: into Michael Valve's freezing garage. He had frost bites on
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Speaker 1: his hands, on his legs. The East Morichi School District
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Speaker 1: had expressed concern about the two oldest boys in this
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Speaker 1: letter sent in April twenty eighteen. They were looking for
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Speaker 1: food on the classroom floor in the garbage. They were
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Speaker 1: coming to school wearing diapers. Angela Polina, a one time
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Speaker 1: hospital biller, also had three daughters living in the house.
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Speaker 1: Gino Kelly is dad to the youngest, who is now eight.
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Speaker 1: I would watch Angelo physically abuse her twin girls before
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Speaker 1: the boys were involved, Before my daughter was even born.
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Speaker 1: She would beat one of the girls. I would break
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Speaker 1: it up then get there and that she was going
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Speaker 1: to copy. Please, how can a judge leave children in
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Speaker 1: this situation? I want to go out to ray computer.
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Speaker 1: I'm hearing that children were visibly dirty, they were starving.
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Speaker 1: They would show up dirty and hungry to school. There
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Speaker 1: were all sorts of red flags, but nothing was done.
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Speaker 1: Why in the world would the judge leave custody with
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Speaker 1: this dad, Well, I mean, I mean they also smelled
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Speaker 1: like you're in too, because they're wetting themselves. But you
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Speaker 1: know what the obvious reason is because the dad was
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Speaker 1: an NYPD cop and he was in the know. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I can't find any other explication of that. We have
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Speaker 1: somebody who works with that system that also has people
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Speaker 1: that are deciding on things that partinue to his life.
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Speaker 1: So that's the only thing I can think of. But
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Speaker 1: on the top of that, judges have a lot of
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Speaker 1: work on their hands and they have to make, you know,
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Speaker 1: this subjective decisions sometimes, and it seems like this guy
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Speaker 1: just the people involved, the different people involved, because it
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Speaker 1: doesn't work. Wasn't just one person, They just they took
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Speaker 1: their eye off the ball. And it's just absolutely crazy
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Speaker 1: what happened to this can't Because of that time stories
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Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace, the child raged on inside of a courtroom,
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Speaker 1: prosecutors revealing the NYPD Valva and fiance Paulina forced little
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Speaker 1: boy Thomas and his brother Anthony to sleep on the
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Speaker 1: cement floor of a garage in their Long Island home
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Speaker 1: while the temperatures outside sunk to below twenty degrees. The
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Speaker 1: boys were forced sixteen hours at a time inside the
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Speaker 1: cold garage, no blankets or access to a bathroom, of
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Speaker 1: punishment punishment for urinating in the home. The little boy
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Speaker 1: died of hypothermia, and we find out that the NYPD
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Speaker 1: this is his bio, dad refused to call nine one
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Speaker 1: one for over an hour as his son goes unconscious.
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Speaker 1: There were seventeen emergency calls that were all explained away
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Speaker 1: and dismissed. The mother in court begging the judge, saying,
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Speaker 1: Anthony is sleeping in the garage, his hands and feet
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Speaker 1: are bright. Read your honor. He's not getting food, and
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Speaker 1: the judge says, missus Valva, move along. I can't remember
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Speaker 1: everything you're saying because you're saying so much. She says judge.
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Speaker 1: CPS Shop Protective Services not doing their job. They're closing
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Speaker 1: the report the very next day, and it goes on
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Speaker 1: and on and on. I want to go to you.
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Speaker 1: Joe's got Morgan way in on what you're hearing. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know that from an investigative standpoint, Nancy, there is
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Speaker 1: a lot that we can do as investigators kind of
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Speaker 1: paint the picture of what these children and not just
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Speaker 1: poor little Thomas, but all of these children moving forward,
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Speaker 1: because what happens is is that the body literally leaves
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Speaker 1: you little clues along the way. And at Thomas's autopsy,
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Speaker 1: for instance, when they were examining him, you know, if
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Speaker 1: we can go back to those injuries that he had
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Speaker 1: on his head, those aren't the only injuries he had, Nancy,
33:35
Speaker 1: I can almost guarantee you that they're not. So what
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Speaker 1: you can do is actually age in these injuries. There's
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Speaker 1: also gonna be evidence of things like in my understanding,
33:46
Speaker 1: the word malnourishment has come up. You're gonna have changes
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Speaker 1: in the teeth. The teeth will rotten, sometimes they'll fall
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Speaker 1: out because of lack of food. You'll get receiving gumblines
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Speaker 1: as a result of this and the aging of the bruising.
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Speaker 1: Or remember that interview that we heard just a moment
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Speaker 1: ago where mom was talking to one of the kids
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Speaker 1: and she was talking about smacking them on the bottom. Well,
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Speaker 1: how many of these injuries have occurred, and we can
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Speaker 1: age those bruises. And then finally, you know, going back
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Speaker 1: to malnourishment, and this is what I'll say about it.
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Speaker 1: You'll see things with malnourishment. First off, Obsen. Obviously, in
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Speaker 1: Thoma's case, you could see an absence of fat, and
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Speaker 1: we people talk baddedly about fat. We need fat, we
34:30
Speaker 1: need fat as energy storage, and we need fat as insulation.
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Speaker 1: This kid would not have had this there, and you
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Speaker 1: would have seen a diminishment. There would have been skin
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Speaker 1: changes where skin looked literally like an old person, if
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Speaker 1: you will, and he's supposed to be vibrant, young Nancy
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Speaker 1: eight years old. There is something very insidious here. Doctor
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Speaker 1: Jeff had mentioned just a moment ago, how you know
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Speaker 1: they have these cameras in there and this picture that
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Speaker 1: we're painting Nancy. I want to use the word here.
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Speaker 1: These people seem like, say, not satanist, but sadist, where
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Speaker 1: they're literally watching their kids go into total and complete
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Speaker 1: physical and mental diminishment. Guys, take a listen to our
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Speaker 1: friend Jennifer mcglogan at CBS two. Still the three sons
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Speaker 1: moved in with NYPD, father Michael Valva and fiancee Angelo
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Speaker 1: Paulina twenty eighteen to twenty nineteen, twenty calls from East
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Speaker 1: Marridge's teachers to child Protection hotlines, missing school, black eye lacerations, hungry,
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Speaker 1: visible dirt on body, urine soak clothing. Father blame this
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Speaker 1: on playground mishaps. The special led teacher wrote, not allowed
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Speaker 1: to eat breakfast because they did not use their manners.
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Speaker 1: Five suffix CPS case workers investigated the series of reports
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Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen and concluded did not rise to level
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Speaker 1: of immediate or impending danger of serious harm. No controlling
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Speaker 1: interventions are necessary at this time. Over and over and over,
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Speaker 1: Child Protective Service drops the ball. Now, the mother says,
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Speaker 1: no one would listen. No one would listen. Even with
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Speaker 1: the bio. Mom begging the judge to give her custody.
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Speaker 1: The judge kept telling her to be quiet, stop talking,
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Speaker 1: that she was the one that was not complying. Why
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Speaker 1: because daddy was on the police force. Why has this happened?
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Speaker 1: I want you to take a listen. Here she is
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Speaker 1: talking to Christian Thorne w ABC seven. Justina Zuko VLVA
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Speaker 1: says no one listened to her or her eight year
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Speaker 1: old son, Thomas Velva about alleged abuse at the hands
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Speaker 1: of Thomas's father, Michael Valva. You know, I always envisioned
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Speaker 1: Hill as being an incredibly hot, fiery pit. But I
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Speaker 1: bet for these two, Satan will arrange something very special,
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Speaker 1: and it'll be as cold as a slab. Goodbye, friend,