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Hour One | Brian Kelly Fired, Frank Wilson Steps In & What’s Next for LSU · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: We welcome into Off the Bench presented by All Star Toyota.
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  Speaker 2: You're scary.
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  Speaker 1: We're bringing into Spool Sports Talking so with Jacob Hester
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  Speaker 1: and Terrify Terrible live from the Haunts It Studio. Here's
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  Speaker 1: Jacob Hester and.
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  Speaker 3: Yo and welcome in to O t B here live
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  Speaker 3: from the Raising Kine Studio. Jake Flynn Elandra Tate here
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  Speaker 3: with you, and there is no delay.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's just jump right into skipped and jump
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  Speaker 2: right in.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm just letting y'all know the yo's were because
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  Speaker 3: of the performance in the field on SAT. Saturday more
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  Speaker 3: than anything, which we'll certainly get to a lot obviously,
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  Speaker 3: to get to over the last I would say twenty
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  Speaker 3: four thirty six, whatever number you want to put on there.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously a lot has happened. LSU has fired Brian Kelly,
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  Speaker 3: and we'll dive into it all. We will get into
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  Speaker 3: all the nitty gritty how do we get here? Where
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  Speaker 3: you at right now? Where do you go in the future.
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  Speaker 3: If you were in the stadium on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: Night, maybe you're not surprised.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe you're not surprised by the actions of LSU on Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: To let Brian Kelly go that was as embarrassing of
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  Speaker 3: a loss as I can certainly remember. We were talking
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  Speaker 3: in studio here right before we hopped on and there's
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  Speaker 3: been some moments where it's been tough. Tayte mentioned when
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  Speaker 3: you lost to Troy there, I'm like, yeah, that one
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  Speaker 3: still is not as bad. I remember being on the
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  Speaker 3: sideline for the tech Ball where you had thirty nine
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  Speaker 3: scholarship players and you got a receiver playing quarterback. Although
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  Speaker 3: Chew Breeze went out there pretty well, it was still like,
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  Speaker 3: this is pretty embarrassing. That Saturday night was the most
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  Speaker 3: embarrassing I think that I've ever been associated with.
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  Speaker 2: To have the.
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  Speaker 3: Lead, to give up the lead, to get punch in
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  Speaker 3: the mouth and just have that game spiral, and then
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  Speaker 3: everything that happened after the game, and them, as you
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  Speaker 3: put it, Matt, basically dancing on your grave after game
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  Speaker 3: they did that. That was all a step too far,
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  Speaker 3: and you knew something was going to happen.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's one thing about there's one way to
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  Speaker 4: get beat in the game, right, there's another way to
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  Speaker 4: kind of get embarrassed. And the second half we got
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  Speaker 4: embarrassed the second half, and then they did they danced
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  Speaker 4: on the grave, they dunked on you after the game,
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  Speaker 4: and the optics.
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  Speaker 2: Behind it certainly pissed a lot of LSU fans.
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  Speaker 4: Off A and M fans taking over the student section
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  Speaker 4: than doing their Texas A and M. You know whatever
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  Speaker 4: warhead whatever it is, and they and they sway back
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  Speaker 4: and forth, the quarterback talking about that they weren't nervous
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  Speaker 4: the entire time during the game, and they said, you know,
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  Speaker 4: Death Valley waswhelming, underwhelming, their coach saying it the great
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  Speaker 4: Tommy Moffatt and them getting a revenge game and you know,
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  Speaker 4: taking which they should have taken pictures on the eye
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  Speaker 4: of the Tiger Lake. They turned Tiger Stadium into their
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  Speaker 4: home field. And if you're the man in charge, that
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  Speaker 4: falls on your shoulders, it is your fault. So they
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  Speaker 4: had enough. Obviously donors had enough. That was a big question, right,
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  Speaker 4: I mean we all. I don't know if anybody really
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  Speaker 4: thought that this type of move would be able to happen.
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  Speaker 4: This from the there's a dollar incent there's a business
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  Speaker 4: side of this. There's people that have to take money
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  Speaker 4: out of their pocket for this, and it's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of it. It's a lot of Keisha and so it
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  Speaker 4: was this big question, could it happen? Would it happened? Well,
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  Speaker 4: you just got embarrassed on your home field. You haven't
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  Speaker 4: been fun to watch leading up to this. The people
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  Speaker 4: were disgruntled, people were waiting for something. And then when
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  Speaker 4: that happens the way it did, the antics on the
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  Speaker 4: sideline of you know, undressing your assistant coaches, yelling fo
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  Speaker 4: like like all that stuff that none of it looked good, right,
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  Speaker 4: and then people just said enough is enough. They got
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  Speaker 4: together and of course, like this show, we're gonna kind
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  Speaker 4: of talk break break all that down.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of rumors. This might be a rumor show.
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  Speaker 2: Who knows what it is.
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna vent you with the facts that come out
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  Speaker 4: and that we do have. But you know, a lot
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  Speaker 4: of it's speculation, a lot of it speculative. Right now,
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  Speaker 4: we don't know what. We don't know at this point
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  Speaker 4: in time because everything is so fresh. I do know
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  Speaker 4: that Brian Kelly has been relieved of his duties.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and the last two years, and there's so many
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  Speaker 3: different ways that we're going to attack this today. And
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  Speaker 3: Taytay said, yeah, maybe at some point, maybe we get
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  Speaker 3: to the Saints. I mean probably, I mean that performance.
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  Speaker 3: Who cares at this point? But you got like the
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  Speaker 3: last two years, A and M has beaten you sixty
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  Speaker 3: six to thirteen in the second half. I'll say that again,
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  Speaker 3: just for those that haven't heard that, sixty six points
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  Speaker 3: for the Aggies to thirteen by LSU in the second half.
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  Speaker 3: You've led them at halftime the last two years and
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  Speaker 3: lost because it was sixty six to thirteen in the
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  Speaker 3: second half.
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  Speaker 2: Like, those are things that can't happen.
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  Speaker 3: Also, Matt talked about him yelling at the assistant coaches
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  Speaker 3: on the sideline seat. Some of that I don't get
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  Speaker 3: to see because I'm calling the game and I'm on
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  Speaker 3: the radio. So like I went back and I watched
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  Speaker 3: a TV copy this week this weekend, of course we
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  Speaker 3: watch a coaches copy.
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  Speaker 2: You don't see that on the coaches like it's raw.
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  Speaker 3: So I went back in and I kind of watched
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  Speaker 3: some of that and some of the questions like what
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  Speaker 3: are we doing, why are we doing this? How do
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  Speaker 3: you not know what you're doing? How do you not
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  Speaker 3: know how this is the outcome? Like that that was
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  Speaker 3: troublesome to me. Again, like I don't get a chance
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  Speaker 3: to see this and so because I'm either calling the
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  Speaker 3: game or I'm watching coaches tape. But when I see that,
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  Speaker 3: and then it was my wife, she's like, that's kind
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  Speaker 3: of every game. It was like every game, She's like,
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  Speaker 3: every game, like, that's troublesome. Like, this is your team.
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  Speaker 3: You're the leader in charge. This is your offensive coordinator,
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  Speaker 3: this is your defense coordinator, this is your special teams coordinator.
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  Speaker 3: You should know what's going to happen before it happens,
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  Speaker 3: Like when a play's called, like you should know the
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  Speaker 3: outcome because you know everything that's going on within the program.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, as the head coach at your job to be
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  Speaker 4: familiarized with every single intricate detail of every play call
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  Speaker 4: and understand what the concept is. So like where we
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  Speaker 4: are certainly not lip readers, but it's pretty.
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  Speaker 2: Easy to let read out there.
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  Speaker 4: And when you are asking continuously asking what are we
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  Speaker 4: doing here? Why are we calling that? You can't call
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  Speaker 4: that in that situation, like you have the final say
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  Speaker 4: of everything.
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  Speaker 2: So that's why there was his his head on the
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  Speaker 2: chopping block.
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  Speaker 4: I mean he has the overall save everything, but like look,
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  Speaker 4: I mean the antics on the sideline. It just it's
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  Speaker 4: a terrible look for not only your program, but let's
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  Speaker 4: talk about the individual players watching it too. Yeah, at
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  Speaker 4: the end of those players, of course, Like there's like
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  Speaker 4: coaches are gonna yell at players. Fine, whatever, there's a
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  Speaker 4: way to do it, there's a way not to do it.
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  Speaker 4: There's always needs to be mutual respect between that. But
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  Speaker 4: you that's part of being a coach. You have to
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  Speaker 4: know what works for players. You got to know them.
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  Speaker 4: There's a time and a place for everything. But I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if I've really ever seen a head coach
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  Speaker 4: in the face.
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  Speaker 2: Of assistant coaches as much as I've seen it.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe if tempers flair every like once in a while, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: but usually it's they're getting after on the headsets, like
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  Speaker 4: talking to each other on the headsets, and they're not
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  Speaker 4: making a display of it. Yeah, it looked it was
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  Speaker 4: really obvious that it was what just happened. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know what just happened. I'm confused that why we did
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  Speaker 4: something or why we called something. I didn't step in
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  Speaker 4: to stop it. Now I need to go make sure
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  Speaker 4: that other person knows I'm blaming him for it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: And I don't know if he like had the peripherals
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  Speaker 4: of saying like I need to make sure everybody else
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  Speaker 4: knows it was somebody else's fault or what by that's.
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  Speaker 2: Sure what it seemed like to me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Charles says and said the Body four chat, saving
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  Speaker 3: yodic coaches. Yeah, when I talk about like yelling at coaches,
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  Speaker 3: it's the what are we doing?
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  Speaker 2: Why are we doing this?
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  Speaker 3: It was also like the things that were being said
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  Speaker 3: that we're talking about. Yeah, at least for me, like
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  Speaker 3: viewing that and it's like, what are we doing? We
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  Speaker 3: can't do that on third and whatever with no timeout?
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  Speaker 3: It's okay, well one like and we'll get there. Trust
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  Speaker 3: me when I say we'll get there. The game breakdown
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  Speaker 3: of Texas A and M because again what the hell?
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  Speaker 3: But like as soon as that comes in as the
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  Speaker 3: head coach, it's like no, no, no, no, no no no,
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  Speaker 3: I know this offense as well as you do as well.
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  Speaker 2: That's no next.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Saving yells at his coaches like some.
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  Speaker 2: Would yell at his coaches too.
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  Speaker 3: It was like for the individual on the field that
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  Speaker 3: messed up, right, it would just yell at their position coach.
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  Speaker 2: Right. It wasn't like what are you doing? Like, don't
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  Speaker 2: call it like this is? It was let's call it
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  Speaker 2: what it is, too like some people can.
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  Speaker 4: If you do it naturally, you come off pretty all right,
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  Speaker 4: it looks natural. If you do it in a fake way,
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  Speaker 4: it comes off as a fake way, like you're trying
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  Speaker 4: to make a statement, like there's a way that like
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  Speaker 4: some people, like some people are are look cool when
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  Speaker 4: they use curse words. Some people just try too hard, right,
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  Speaker 4: it seems like this is one of those situations like
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna yell to yell because I'm trying to pass
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  Speaker 4: off blame here.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I guess the buck stopped here. So there's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be a lot of talk of.
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  Speaker 3: What went wrong, and eventually we'll get to maybe what
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  Speaker 3: the future looks like.
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  Speaker 2: And I know, look, this.
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  Speaker 4: Is gonna be a lot of speculation. I mean, this
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  Speaker 4: isn't like, oh for sure, we don't we don't know facts.
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  Speaker 4: They don't have facts, And like I said, it'll trickle
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  Speaker 4: in throughout the day and we'll present them as they
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  Speaker 4: pop up. But a lot of it's just gonna be
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  Speaker 4: speculative and kind of talking about what's gonna what the
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  Speaker 4: next step.
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  Speaker 2: Is and and look, this is how this works.
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  Speaker 3: There's gonna be a lot of rumors and I was
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  Speaker 3: telling y'all, like at nine am yesterday I had had UH, ESPN,
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  Speaker 3: Yahoo on three, every somebody from those like hues, and
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  Speaker 3: it was like I was like, guys, I'm just trying
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  Speaker 3: to get ready for these ten U flag football playoff games.
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to jump onto trampoline with my daughter. Can
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  Speaker 3: y'all let this rest? But like, that's how this works.
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  Speaker 3: And I only bring it up to say, like, over
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  Speaker 3: the next days and weeks, that's how it's going to work,
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  Speaker 3: and those guys are gonna find it out.
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  Speaker 2: We'll have that information and we'll give it to you,
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  Speaker 2: so we'll.
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  Speaker 3: Talk about the future, and we'll speculate on maybe which
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  Speaker 3: direction you go on here and more. And certainly in
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  Speaker 3: the first hour, it's more of what went wrong, what
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  Speaker 3: did not go right?
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  Speaker 2: And you know, the.
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  Speaker 3: More that you start to peel back the layers and
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  Speaker 3: you start to look at uh, you know, some of
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  Speaker 3: the conversation, a lot of the conversation has been this
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  Speaker 3: isn't new, it's been over the last gosh two years,
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  Speaker 3: two and a half years.
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  Speaker 2: Is fit and this doesn't fit and that doesn't fit.
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  Speaker 3: And I do wonder, like I understand that part of
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  Speaker 3: the conversation, but like more than just like not a fit,
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  Speaker 3: it's not he's not you know this, that and the other.
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  Speaker 3: The thing that like as you peel back the layers is.
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  Speaker 2: There wasn't the.
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  Speaker 3: Buy in to what you have to do to be
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  Speaker 3: LSU and win national championships.
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  Speaker 2: So it's not.
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  Speaker 3: Necessarily about fit, Like that's that's not the conversation.
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  Speaker 2: That's a subjective term, Like like what does that mean?
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  Speaker 2: You don't have to people say you can't. No one
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  Speaker 2: can put a finger.
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  Speaker 3: On it, right, You don't have to be somebody that
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  Speaker 3: graduated necessarily from LSU or from Louisiana, because we have
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  Speaker 3: seen others come here and buy in and love this
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  Speaker 3: place and you know, endear themselves to the fans and
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  Speaker 3: give you every single thing that they had to make
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  Speaker 3: sure they didn't disappoint you. And that's one of the
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  Speaker 3: things that you didn't see here, Like it wasn't the
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  Speaker 3: and I'm not saying they didn't work hard, you know,
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  Speaker 3: but you've got to fully give yourself over to a
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  Speaker 3: place and a job like this, right, And like when
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  Speaker 3: you hear some of the things of going on vacation
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  Speaker 3: during bye weeks, it's like, Okay, well, that's not that's
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  Speaker 3: not how you do this. That's not what you can do.
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  Speaker 3: You can't do those things like when you're in like
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  Speaker 3: critical time, during critical times. But I don't think ever
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  Speaker 3: like once once July fifteenth hits May in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe it's a little bit later in college, maybe it's
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  Speaker 3: two weeks later. It's we go into the football facility,
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  Speaker 3: we shut the door, we lock it, and we hide
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  Speaker 3: the key, and then in December we look for the
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  Speaker 3: key again. Right, we can take a little breather and
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  Speaker 3: then we go right back in. And that's what it is,
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  Speaker 3: that's what's all about. It's like everything you do from
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  Speaker 3: that time is focused on how do we make the
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  Speaker 3: LSU Tigers great?
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  Speaker 2: And like that's some of the things that you didn't see.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, like it or not. When you
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  Speaker 4: decide to take a job like this, when you decide
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  Speaker 4: to take that contract, when you decide to take that
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  Speaker 4: amount of money to do that job like it, that's
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  Speaker 4: that that's your life at that point, Like you have
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  Speaker 4: to be all in. You got to be sold at
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  Speaker 4: and you know, of course, like what we all we
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  Speaker 4: know is to talk about what we hear, right, and
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  Speaker 4: you go vacation on things you talk about, Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: there's rumors out there about not being in the office
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  Speaker 4: quite as much as we needed to be. But you
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  Speaker 4: talk about the fit. The fit thing has come up
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  Speaker 4: so much, and it's like such a it's such a
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  Speaker 4: glaring statement to me because you can't explain, you can't
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  Speaker 4: define what fit is. Obviously, it's not geological, it's not
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  Speaker 4: where you're from.
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  Speaker 2: It's not about.
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  Speaker 3: Any coach Miles. I mean, those guys.
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  Speaker 4: Weren't nobody who's gonna be like besides coach Oh, Like,
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  Speaker 4: who's who you're gonna find in the same state that's
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  Speaker 4: gonna be hed got.
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  Speaker 3: When when I think of what it takes to fit
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  Speaker 3: into his place, it's somebody like Jay Johnson. So Jay's
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  Speaker 3: from the West coast like that, he has no ties
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  Speaker 3: to Louisiana. But when Jay came here and I've and
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  Speaker 3: I've had conversations with Jay about this, like he wanted
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  Speaker 3: to be the Nick Saban of college baseball in his
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  Speaker 3: work ethic and what he gave to the program, Like
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: you can't drive by the box. And Elandra can back
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  Speaker 3: me up on this because she goes over there and
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  Speaker 3: works baseball. You can't go to that stadium and not
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  Speaker 3: beat J there outlast Jay there, not see his car there.
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  Speaker 3: Like that's just the way that that guy works. And
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's the only way to do it.
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  Speaker 3: But Jay Johnson gives every ounce of everything he has
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  Speaker 3: to make the LSU Tigers great in baseball. And if
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  Speaker 3: they lose, Elandra, you'll bat me up on this. If
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  Speaker 3: they lose, it's not because Jay didn't do everything he
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  Speaker 3: possibly could to have them prepared. Yeah, one hundred percent agreed. Like,
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  Speaker 3: like you said, he's from the West Coast, but he
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  Speaker 3: embodies what I feel it means to coach here at LSU.
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  Speaker 2: Like he's passionate about it.
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  Speaker 3: He s it's the thing he loves more than anything
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  Speaker 3: outside probably of his wife.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean you heard him that one time when he
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  Speaker 3: we lost I don't remember what series, and he was
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  Speaker 3: like I was up till like three am just staring
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  Speaker 3: at the moon, drinking orange juice, and we were like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: this man's psycho, but I love it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So yes, I.
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  Speaker 4: Think the people of Louisiana, like when they want when
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  Speaker 4: they talk about fit, they want somebody for one that's genuine.
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  Speaker 4: The two that when they say something, they know that
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  Speaker 4: they mean it. And like it got with this Brian
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  Speaker 4: Kellyer got off to a kind of a rocky start
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  Speaker 4: with that, right with the you know, we laugh about it,
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  Speaker 4: but the fake accent and all the just kind of
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  Speaker 4: it's like you can tell, like when somebody is truly,
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  Speaker 4: truly bought in and in it and authentic with it.
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  Speaker 4: I think the authentic being authentic is the key word here.
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  Speaker 2: Authenticity. Authenticity.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's a big word, but you know, you
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  Speaker 4: ask I'm asked all the time for years, and I've
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  Speaker 4: asked other people and I hear the people talking and
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  Speaker 4: it's like, hey, what do you think about Brian Kelly
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  Speaker 4: And it's like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's pretty good. Don't really know him, don't
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  Speaker 2: really know him.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And and so when you don't know that, like
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: the people of Louisiana, LSU fans want somebody that is
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: all in, bought in to the program, and then that
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: can tell when when that man speaks. It's like, I
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: can I know it's in his heart when he speaks.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: I don't know if we've ever known that. Yeah, I
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: guess we kind of like have the writing on the
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: wall now, but I mean it's one of those things.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: Fit to me is being genuine to.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: Yourself and genuinely love and respect in the state of
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: Louisiana and Louisiana State University. And you know, not to
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: say that Brian didn't want to the will was there.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: I know, he gave his own money for, you know,
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: to put into nil and do all this stuff.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Like I think the will was there. I don't know
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: if the I don't know. I don't know if the
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: love or the authenticity was ever there.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: I don't know. That's all kind of speculations. What it's
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: all opinion, that's subjective. But when I just when you
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: ask people, hey, what do you think about keuny, like,
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: I guess we got to wait and see. I don't know.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: It wasn't ever like the oh man, this was an
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: awesome like so pumped up up about it?
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: What never that it was always I don't know.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: I don't know, And that's that's an issue when you're
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: three four years in it and you're still saying, I
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: don't know, there's so.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: Much and I know we actually we have a clock today,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: even though it's not gonna feel like it it's gonna
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: be no, it's gonna be a little bit all over
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: the place, and so we'll go ahead and get out
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: in front of apologize to that.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: But like even.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: It's a small thing, and this isn't even like to
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: do with our show, just more like the station in general,
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: Like every single week, Jay Johnson comes on this radio
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: show every single week, Kim Malke comes on this radio
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: show every single week, Coach O came on this radio show.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: And again it could be Hunt Show, Matt Show, Hanney
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: and I like, I don't I don't care more than
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: station Brian Kelly went on Paul finebumb Show. And that's
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: not to say that like don't do that. Oh my gosh,
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: well how'd you mistreat us? I'm saying like Jay and
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Kim and coach are like they wanted to talk to
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: LSU fans. They didn't necessarily they didn't care to talk
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: to sec are their sport fans.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: They wanted to talk to LSU fans.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: And when we started doing that with Jay, like that
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: was this one thing He's like, yeah, I'll do I
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: don't want talk to LSU fans every Thursday, absolutely, like
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: we'll do that every week, and that was him, like
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: it wasn't even like us asking him to do.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: It every week. He's like, we'll do this every week. Yep.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Those are the things that we're talking about. And it
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: seems like a small thing, but those things start to
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: pile up. And like, those coaches wanted to talk to
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: LSU fans. They wanted to talk to the people that
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: are listening to us right now. They wanted to talk
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: to the people that are in the chat every single day.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: And they said that, like though, like.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: When you talk to those coaches, you genuinely know who
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: those people are as a person. Yeah, right, You genuinely
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: know that they care about their program and about the
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: kids on that team and about the fan base.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Like there's no there's no question in that. There's no
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: I don't knows.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: When you ask what their opinion of Kim Milky or
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: Jay Johnson is, there's no I don't knows there and
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: I just don't. We can't say that we ever truly
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: whether he did or not, I don't know. It just
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: the being genuine. It never seemed genuine, And that's what
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: that's my definition of the fit.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, I don't on a map, I don't really
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: care where you're from. I think it's all the things
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: that we just talked about, something will continue to talk about.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: So many different tracks there we can go with this deal. Uh,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: you know, at some point we'll come back to what
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: the record was.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: And so we're gonna do we kind of have a
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: thing on the show. We're gonna do it eulogy.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm down for this. Should we do the
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: eulogy for every other coach? That's right?
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: We got a standard here on off the bench. Yeah,
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: we can't make exceptions, right right, I don't think so. Well,
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: let's know, in the chat, if you want us to
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: do a eulogy, well maybe we'll do that. Maybe it's
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: an hour three situation. Yeah, it feels like an hour
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: three situation.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: We're glad to have you here with us.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Obviously, big day four LSU Athletics and there's a lot
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: of jobs that are open right now. But just know,
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: and I don't care what anybody says. I'll fight anybody
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: that almants to argue this point. The LSU job is
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: the best job available because the LSU football job is
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: a top three job in the sport. Regardless of what
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: job was open, it would be in the top three.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Even if you don't agree with that, you can deny
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: it's a top five job.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: That's what it is. You're LSU and who almost said
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: a curse word there? And do it.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: You are going to have the opportunity to change the
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: direction of this program and get it back to the
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: LSU standard if you handle it right. And we'll talk
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: all about that when we come back here on OTV.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Off the bench.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: What's the what situation for FCC finds And in a
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: situation like this, I don't know, you gotta you gotta
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: slap on the wrist type deal because your boy got
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: sweat on the back.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: I think they make exceptions for the situation like that
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: if your coach like gets fired and if you do
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: get fined, you know what you should be drinking.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: I enjoyed a big boy, big do Sekis on Friday,
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: had some some good old little superior set down.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I think it was.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: It was a big old like it made it like
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: it actually looked like it fit in my hand. If
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: that it tells you exactly, go for dose. Maybe you're
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: celebrating something, raise a glass, drink a dose, Sachi you
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: want to be celebrating just saying I don't know. I'm
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: just saying, weird. You gotta buye week. Maybe you get
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: a little getaway playing. You should enjoy that with a dose. Sekis.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: It's always a great time to go for dose. Go
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: for dose at delicious Mexican lawyer. Make sure if you're
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: gonna do it, drink responsibily. And like you said, if
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: you're celebrating anything, make sure you're drinking. Do secis, go
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: for dose.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Say no, I'm disco.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: It ain't no country club either, This is La.
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: All I want to do is have a little fun
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: before I die.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Just the man next to me out of nowhere.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Able, he says, his.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: Name is William.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I'm sure it's.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Bill, William macer buddy, Let tigers turn talkers. This is
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: off the bench.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: Fine, we are drinking.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Beer and no not Tuesday.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: The fun faced giant calm wash. The good people of
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: the world are washing their cords on that lunch break, homes.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: And a scramin as best they can skirt the su.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: Drive, the shining dots and the buicks.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: All right, welcome back, Yeah, OTV here lift in the
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Raising Kanes studio. One of the things that we didn't
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: get to there in the in the first segment, and look,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: this is going to be all three hours, So if
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: you're looking for anything else, probably not the place to
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: be today. It's obviously the biggest news in Louisiana. It's
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: the biggest news in the SEC, and it's one of
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: the biggest news pieces in the country.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: When Brian Kelly first got here, we first got.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Here, uh, look in LSU at the time, you know,
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: it obviously wasn't going well, and we all know how
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: many players you had, and look, it was it was
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: going to be an uphill battle for sure.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Whatever, But.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: We had been so used to a lot of the
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: same people being around the program.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: And you know, some.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: People might look at that and be like, yeah, well
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: when you when you bring somebody new and he needs
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: to bring in his people, and you need to bring
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: in some of your people for sure, for sure. But
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: there was like everybody had to go mentality And even
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: if you go back and listen to the shows that
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: I even I don't even know what chills doing. I
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: guess it would have been OTV at the time. It's
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: like that was that didn't make total sense to me.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: And t Bob Okay, you got rid of you know,
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Corey Raymond, and you got rid of Blake Baker who
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: was there.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: And look, Blake is.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Like, I'm friends with Blake, like close with Blake. I
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: don't mindset on that, and you can probably guess that.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: And Blake wanted to be here so bad and like
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: his wife played soccer here like else you mean something, Louise,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: I mean some to him, and he was, you know,
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: linebacker coach, and like you didn't retain Blake Baker, and
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: so he goes to Missouri becomes a rising star, and
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: then you had to go crawling back and hire Blake back.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: And Blake wanted to be here. We know Corey wanted
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: to be here. You had to do the same thing.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: You had to try to right the wrong that you
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: didn't do from the very beginning. Like those are a
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: couple of people, but it's not just coaches. I mean
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: it's people with inside the building that had been there forever,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: that had been through three national championships.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: I think that.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: Happens by chance, or you think those people knew what
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: they were doing, and those people were a fabrica of
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: the team and the school and what everything that it
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: means is kind of going back to the same conversation,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: like those people in the building would have jumped on
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: a grenade for LSU.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: And they're not football coach.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: If I'm just talking about people around the building, I'm
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: talking about from every job that you can imagine, director
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: of obs, director of recruiting, head coach, secretary like whatever, anything,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Dietitian like whatever, it would have been, strength coach like
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: like whatever it would have been.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Like those people would have jumped on a grenade for LSU.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: And they've been through three three national championships with three
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: different coaches, and it was like such a.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: We gotta get rid of everybody.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: And then you found yourself having to go back to
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: multiple people that we're talking about there because you're like, oh, well, actually,
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: they did do things.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: The right way. They did have a deep desire.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: For this program in this place, and they'd given their
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: entire adult life to LSU and those three letters, and
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: like you have to have those people in the building again,
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: you want to bring in your own people.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: I get that.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: I understand that it's got to be a mixture of both,
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: but it was over correction to say the least.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: Like from the very get go all right, everything you're
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: saying one hundred percent accurate. I want to talk about
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: that from a former player perspective.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Since the as tenure began. And look, we.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of things that we've known and heard
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: for years right now, ving LSU fans were optimistic. We
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: hope things turn around, we hope their success. But when
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: there's not, you know, these kind of things start to
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: come to light from a former former, from a former
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: player perspective. For the majority of people that I talked
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: to that I played with, that we sweat with, we
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: bled with, we fought with, and the people that came
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: before us and the people that came after with after us,
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: there was never there was always kind of a feeling
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: that whether it's true or not, that they were felt
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: that they were a little unwelcome in the facility at
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: football ops. Now you could go, it was just there
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: was a lot of different steps to have to go
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: to go unless you were like a former like superstar
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: person that you could kind of have the act says,
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: but the access was kind of taken away from your
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: former players.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: And I'm gonna let you speak on this more than me,
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: because I.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: I just hear it from from the people that from
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: everybody that we played with. Yeah, that's not like the
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: superstars superstars, right, It's like they never felt really welcome
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: like before this. But when coach Miles was here, coach
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: O's Ronleigh welcome players that come back and work out
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: in the facility. They had lockers, they had they everything
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: was welcome. They would always ask for former players to
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: come back and speak to the team, be around the team.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: So I think there was people felt isolated and they
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: didn't like that about this this regime. Now, no one,
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: you know, complained that much because we we were hopeful
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: that you know, whatever new coach wants to do his
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: own thing, doesn't want to doesn't want a ton of
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: the former players back or around.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Fine, but you're better win. Yeah. Uh.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: And in this day and age where you have this
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: nil culture of you're paying players to come in. They
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: might not have like in their heart of hearts, they
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: might not bleed purple and gold, but they're there to
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: play the sport as best they can. And you want
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: to develop culture with a bunch of every single year,
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: you got all these new you got all this turnover.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: You're gonna have more turnover next year, all these turnover
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: new guys, people coming from different colleges all over the
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: country that have signed somewhere else out of high school
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: and they've transferred twice and now they're at LSU because
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: they're getting paid and they got to play well in
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: this world, I would think it'd be paramount, absolutely paramount
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: for to have your former players that were here, that care.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: That will die for this program.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that will absolutely do anything they can for that
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: eye in the middle of the field. I would think
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: you would want them around creating that culture, setting it
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: all the time for these people that have transferred in
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: because of money to come play football.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: And that's what I'm glad. Guys are getting paid. I
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: love it. It's great.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: I would think you would want that culture to be
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: set by people that have been there, and not just
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: from the top guys, the guys that have you know,
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: won the Heisman or All Americans, right, but from the
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: guys that grinded, the guys that were position players, that
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: were role players, guys that fought and scrapped and had
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: to earn a scholarship in their second or third year
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: because they just loved LSU so much.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: And that was.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: Whether right or wrong, whether this is correct or not,
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: whether they meant to or not. It was taken away
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: from a lot of that. And it started and when
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: you want to isolate your former players a little bit
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: more to what you were talking about, it started with
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: as soon as Brian Kelly got here. It's like when
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: you go to you go get sent to prison, and
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: you send a message about picking the biggest guy in
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: the in the yard to fight. He went there and
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: fired a man that every former player loved, Tommy Moffitt
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: was loved by every single former player, and you went
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: and you did him wrong and you fired him. And
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you meant it or what. The
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: man had to pack up a cardboard box and the
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: optics of it were terrible, had to pack a box
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: load his car in the rain. And if you want
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: to get rid of him, fine, that is your prerogative.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: You are welcome to bring in your own people. There's
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: a way to do things. Not everybody is the same.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: And you isolated, I want to say, the majority of
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: your former players. It got started on a rocky road
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: and a rough foot like that is not how you
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: endear yourself, especially in this in Io world.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: When you got to have.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: Those guys around and you went and picked the biggest
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: guy in the yard, and you fired him.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: And guess what, he.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: Packed his bags, he reloaded his car in the rain,
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: and he just came and beat your ass in the rain.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Oh twice the last two years in the second half.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: And that's after he was told that he's gonna be retained.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: And then got the rug pulled.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: From yeah, out wrong way, and I got if you
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: picked the wrong person to do wrong enemy.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: And last one before we take a break. We're gonna
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: try to stay on the clock as much as we can.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: It's it's not gonna be easy.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: I remember somebody from and I don't know who it is.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: They're not here anymore. And there's a lot of people
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: in and out from here and there, from Notre Dame whatever.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: I remember somebody telling me because I asked that question,
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: because there was there was a story of Ethan Postik
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: was in the weight room and Ethan's still playing in
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: the NFL, by the way, and he was like back
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: working out in the weight room, and almost like was asked,
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: like what are you doing in here? It's like I'm
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: working out like play real shoe, like I'm in the NFL,
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: like we always do this and and so like that's
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: where it started. And I'm like, hey, like why is
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: that happening? Like why is that going on? Because like
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: we used to have lockers in here where we worked out,
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: and like they would keep like if we were in
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: the NFL, we had a locker, we had a loop,
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: we had like and they embraced it, and they said, well,
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: you know, being in South Bend, Indiana, like nobody's from there,
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: and so like nobody lives there and nobody moves back there,
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: and so like it's never really been a thing, and
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: so it's just it's overwhelming for all the people that
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: still live around the program and they are still wanting
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: to be in the building, Like we just haven't ever
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: really had to deal with that, yeah, and so we're
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: trying to navigate how to deal with that. That was
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: the answer that I got when I asked the question,
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: because it made me angry because I'm like, Ethan's like Ethan,
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: like it's not from here, Ethan came here, Ethan was
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: a great player here, Ethan's still a great player, still.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Playing in the NFL.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: And that was the answer that I got, was it
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: was overwhelming because nobody moved back to South Bend and
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: tried to come back to the facility at Notre Dame,
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: and so they didn't know how to handle all of
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: us still living here and wanting to be around the program.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: And they didn't handle it. Nope, they did not.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: So hey isolate for the former players, and you lose
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: a pretty big what could have been a good support.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: And I also think it means something that we do
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  Speaker 3: move back here. I'm not from here. I'm from Treport
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  Speaker 3: from Louisiana. I'm not from Baton Rouge. That's not from here.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: He's from Texas. Dick Dixon's not from here. He's from
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Motion Springs, Mississippi. I mean, we could go on and
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  Speaker 3: on of the people that aren't from Baton Rouge aren't
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  Speaker 3: from South Louisiana. But where do we find our way
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  Speaker 3: back to Baton Rouge in South Louisiana?
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Because we we we were just a place. We were fit,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: we were fit, we were fed.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: All right, we'll take a break more OTB when we
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  Speaker 1: Locked in ULSU football twenty four to seven. You're listening
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  Speaker 5: Two Day's gonna be the day that they're gonna throw
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  Speaker 5: it back to you. By now, you should have somehow
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  Speaker 5: realized what you gotta do. I don't believe that anybody
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  Speaker 5: feels the way I had to about you now backbe
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  Speaker 5: the weather's on the street, that the fire in your
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: heart is out. I'm sure you've heard it all before,
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  Speaker 5: but you never really had it out. I don't believe
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  Speaker 5: that anybody feels the way I to about you now.
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  Speaker 3: All right, welcome back to you and OTB here last
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  Speaker 4: Got some good news. Yeah, votes are in in the
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  Speaker 3: Might be electric, might be uh, a lot of like
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: why are y'all just now speaking on this? I should
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: have been talked about like you don't get the you
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: don't get to get then, Like the last thing I'm
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: gonna do and UH is give any other fan base
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: or anybody else like the opportunity to crap on LSU
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Like you're gonna try to figure it out internally.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: You're gonna try to speak to the right people.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: You're gonna try to like I said, like I spoke
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: up and spoke out for former players, and look, I'll
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: give Jake Flint the Strengths coach a lot of credit.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Like Jake, Jake started to like say, you know, we're
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: gonna have some former guys that are able to work
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: out in here.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: So like, if I'm out there and I'm doing that
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: instead of trying to fix the problem, if I'm just
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: sitting here whining about it, then that doesn't help my school.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: And I'm gonna do everything i can to help those
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: three letters. And so that's just the way that I'm
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: going to handle that in those situations. I'm not just
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: with this coaching staff for them. I'm gonna try to
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: figure out how do we help LSU and how do
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: we try to fix those wrongs.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: And there's one thing like if you want to do
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: it's your way, that's that that pisses some people off,
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: make some people upset. It's fine, but you better succeed
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: at it, right, So you don't like it. Just because
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: somebody is like not pleased with something doesn't mean that
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: they need to go out and speak.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Out about it. Because you're still hopeful.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: It's the three letters, it's LSU, man, You we still
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: want the most success no matter what.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: So and those things are happening in person, real conversations
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: to try to fix those wrongs.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: So so kudos man, kudos to the people that stepped
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: up to make a decision. I know there's no you know,
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: right time to do something like this, and I know
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: it's I don't think that many people thought it could
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: be done. From a financial perspective. How is it going
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: to do? How's all come together? We still don't know how.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: I know the conversations on the buyout are still being discussed.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: I guess quote from a lot of different people. What
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: does that mean. I'll tell you, well, we don't know.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: I've no idea. I don't know if you could settle it.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: I don't know the details on it. Everybody that it'll
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: it'll come out, it'll trickle out.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: It seems like everybody that we talked to seems to
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: think that it's not going to be the fifty three
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: million dollars right to know how that's possible, But you know,
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know how it's possible either. I don't know
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: what those conversations are like.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: I know it takes like another job.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: If off like the payment off sets like in the
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: you know contracts in the NFL, like if you were
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: getting paid and get cut, whoever you know signs you
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: next that money you get there, you don't get it
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: from both teams. So I don't know if it's a
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: situation like that, but coaches contracts are out of control.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: I know that, absolutely out of control. It's ludicrous. I said, ludicrous, looted.
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  Speaker 4: I'm pretty proud of that one. We could tell you celebrated.
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  Speaker 4: I got to have the tiger on today, so love
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  Speaker 4: l s Uh. I mean, oh, you got the old
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  Speaker 3: I figured, uh, it needed to be.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: It needed to be an old school day. Right, let's
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: go need to be an old school day. It needed
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: to be. Should your neck a little, this is a day.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Don't tempt me with a good time. But let's go.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Frank bring the fullback back.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, if anybody would, my man Frank would do it.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: There's no doubt about that.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Why not. Couldn't be, couldn't hurt? It would be a
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: bad thing.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: At some point, again, we're gonna try to catch up
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: on the clock here this segment, but at some point,
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: like there's things that that we do want to show
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: on tape as well, like in this A and M game,
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: the good, the bad, the ugly. There was some things
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: that were good in the run game. I think you
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: have an emerging star at running back.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: I think that.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: You have a couple of positions that played their best game.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: I think trade s Green and Matt pointed it out
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: multiple times this morning already to me, I think he
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: played his best game as an LSU Tiger. So there's
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: things to highlight, and obviously there's a lot of things
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: that went bad. You can't give up two sacks against
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: those edge rushers where you didn't touch them, like, you
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: didn't put a hand on them, you didn't whisper to
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: them like. Those things can't happen. So we'll get to
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: that as well. But it is going to be all
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: LSU all day. We'll continue that process when we come
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  Speaker 1: Oh, locked in on LSU Football twenty four to seven.
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  Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in OTV, laughing to raise a
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  Speaker 3: kines studio. One thing I'll say, and I saw something
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: the chatting that Look, we appreciate you all being in here.
• 44:32
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  Speaker 3: One of the things I did see though, like, can
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: you can you have teams play hard? Can you have
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: the same passion that you are talking about in today's
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: age of college football?
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Yes? And I said it last week.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: I want to remind people that the let's see the
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: number two team in the country.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna make sure I get their rankings right now.
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  Speaker 3: I know we're coming up on this. Yeah, the number
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: two team in the country, the number eight team in
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: the country, and the number nine team in the country,
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: and the number ten team in the country. That's Indiana,
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: that's Georgia Tech, that's Vanderbilt, and that's BYU. Turn on
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• 45:18
  Speaker 3: don't see teams playing like they used to, Teams playing
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: hard as hell, teams giving you everything they've got.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Those players.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Look, every one of those teams outside of BYU. They
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: got transfer quarterback, they got transfers all over the place.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: So it's not you can't take a transfer. No, you
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: have to set a culture. And when you set the
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: culture and you set the expectation, it's non negotiable. It's
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: not we hope you do it. You have to do
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: it or you won't be here. This is what we have.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: This is our DNA, and if you don't buy in,
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: we'll find somebody that will. And that's why their top
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: ten teams in the country. More OTB. When we come back,
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  Speaker 3: our number two off the bench,