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Life By Design: Thriving…Beyond Surviving with Zoraida Morales · The Bridges and Beacons Podcast

• 0:41
  SPEAKER_01: Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to the Bridges and Beacons podcast.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_01: I'm your host, Kelly Meyerson, coming to you from a remote location.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_01: Nothing exotic, just the basement of my in-laws' house.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_01: Traveling after the holidays, uh, it's January.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know about everybody listening, but we had some sickness in the family and decided, you know, much better to wait a little bit longer to have celebrations.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_01: So I could not wait to have this conversation.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_01: I've been waiting for this one.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_01: We've postponed it, but as she was just saying, right before we press record, the planets have literally aligned.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_01: The circumstances in life on the planet in our own worlds are aligned.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_01: And I feel like this is the time that we were supposed to have this conversation.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_01: So I'd like to introduce you to Zerata Morales.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_01: One of the brightest lights I've found in my journey connecting with people on LinkedIn.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_01: Let me tell you, people, if you're if you're not on LinkedIn, you're missing out.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_01: And I want you to see past the the sort of belief that it's very all business, no fun kind of vibe, and realize that you are going to meet your not only dream clients, but dream collaborators.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_01: And I would say that you fall into that category.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_01: So thank you so much for being here.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my God.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much, Kelly.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's this is the right time for us to have this conversation.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_00: I truly believe that.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm so honored that you asked me to be a part of this beautiful podcast that helps so many people just see things in a different light.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for saying that.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, we we first met and had a conversation a few months ago.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_01: We're in a group on LinkedIn who raise each other up, support each other, promote each other.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that's like the best of the networking world.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_01: But what really struck me when we had a conversation, you know, we have lots of conversations with people.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_01: We meet a lot of people.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_01: There was an instant connection.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_01: I immediately felt that your energy was all about raising other people up and really moving from a place you've been through some challenging times, from a place of feeling good about yourself, moving forward, and really having the energy and radiance to elevate other people.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_01: And I came off of our conversation, I don't even remember exactly what the words are that you said, but it was about don't let anybody tell you that you can't be heart-centered and be successful.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_01: That is the way.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_01: And I left that conversation, and I just like for the remainder of 2025, anytime I came across an obstacle, put my hand on my heart, and your voice was one of the voices that came through, reminding me you've got to be heart-centered.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_01: And it's okay in a world that may not always support that to still continue to be that.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_01: And I think, you know, no matter what else you have to say today, you've already inspired me to really honor that in myself.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_01: So thank you for that.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_01: I just want to tell the listeners and the viewers a little bit about you, maybe flatter you a little bit more before we get into a conversation.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_01: You have been through a tremendous journey from being a woman in business, having a lot of success, but finding a little bit of dissatisfaction there, to finding out that you have cancer and going through a cancer journey and ultimately making the decision, feeling the strength to not only make it through that cancer journey and heal yourself, but move beyond the idea of just surviving cancer and then starting over and actually using it as a launching pad to thrive in your life.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that is so that is so tremendous.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_01: And people are going to want to know the ins and outs of exactly how do you, you know, because there is there is such a reality for so many people experiencing cancer diagnoses of different types.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_01: And we really could overlay this on any life challenge, divorce, other illnesses, loss, grief, right?
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_01: And how do you take all of that and still wake up in the morning and do your best to make the planet a better place?
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_01: So I think that that is what I would love to celebrate with you today and really help the listener understand how you even got there.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_01: So take us back to that, take us back, not to the point of diagnosis, because everybody can relate to that, but to the moment where you decided that it was going to be about thriving, that you were gonna have control over the direction of your life and you were gonna make the biggest, boldest difference possible.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my God.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_00: Let me just say that.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for this beautiful introduction.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it it warms my heart to know that I helped you feel a certain way, right?
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_00: Because that's what it is for me as this coach.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's I want people to feel that hope is their birthright.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_00: Regardless of what's going on.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_00: And I know it's hard.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_00: So here I am in 2020.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_00: And it's COVID.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I had just sold the home, moved to the state where I was working at, got laid off, got a divorce during this time, and was still taking chemo.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_00: I was on year 10 of taking chemo.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_00: And so now I'm in New York City.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_00: I'm a native New Yorker, so I go back home and I'm in a two-bedroom apartment.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_00: And I am surrounded by boxes filled with stuff from a 2,500 square foot house.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm alone.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm scared.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_00: I'm scared.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_00: And I reached for God.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_00: Now, let me just preface by saying I didn't really have religion as a kid.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_00: My mother's agnostic, I was born a Catholic, and I did, you know, the Baptist communion, all that stuff, and my children followed as well.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_00: But I had issues with the church and I kind of like removed myself, right?
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't I don't agree with a lot of their old practices.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_00: And so when I got this cancer diagnosis at 45 years old, I was like, I quit you.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, I don't want to see you ever again.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_00: You know, how could you do this to me?
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_00: I was born into generational poverty.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_00: I was born into generational trauma.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_00: I worked 10, 12 hour days in finance, I went to college at night.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_00: I have four miscarriages before I have my first child at 40.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_00: So I have a three-year-old and a six-year-old, and then I get cancer.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_00: So I severed my relationship with him.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_00: But here I am, and the whole point is here I am.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_00: I am on my own.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_00: And I am feeling lonely and scared and angry.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I said, I just said to myself, you need something higher than yourself.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_00: You can't do this alone.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_00: Now I was brought up to do everything alone because asking for help was a demonstration of fear in my family.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_00: It was a demonstration of lack, right?
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_00: Insecurity, all those, all those adjectives.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_00: But here I am.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_00: I I I go to a corner of my apartment and I just poured.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_00: And I just said, I need you.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_00: It was it's interesting because I thought of, I can't remember the name, the name of the book, but there's a book when I was, I remember being a kid, and there was a book, and it was, it was, I said, Hi God, it's me, Zarada.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_00: It's a book.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_00: I can't remember the name, but it's part of the.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, it's me, Margaret.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, thank you.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_00: It's me, Margaret.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I did that.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_00: I went, hi God, it's me, Zarada.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_00: I know I haven't asked for you, and I haven't looked for you, but I need you.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I need you to love me, and I need you to hold me, and I need you to protect me because I'm scared and I don't know where I'm supposed to go, but I know I'm in the right place, right?
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_00: Because I asked for a divorce.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_00: And so the people in my circle weren't happy with that because I got a lot of who do you think you are after a 24-year marriage.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_00: And so I needed I needed someone, and and and he hugged me like I literally felt the warmth of his arms on my arm.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_00: And I knew that he had me.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_00: I knew it because I felt him.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_00: And girl, I leaned in like he was six foot three, because in my mind, that's how tall he is, and I just put my body on him and I just cried for 20 minutes.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_00: And he held space for me.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_00: And after all that crying, and my my tears are about to come down, I just knew I was gonna be okay, even though I didn't know what the next step was going to look like.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_00: And so I just I I after 20 minutes, I wiped my tears and I started unpacking.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, one box at a time, right?
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's such an incredible story, and and again, I think your story is so relatable for so many of us who grew up in you know church, whether it's you know, Catholic, it doesn't really matter.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's just we were brought up in the generation where you did not question authority.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, and there was no, there was no saying, you know, I'm not sure, you know, that this priest is saying or doing the right things, or I'm not sure that these leaders have the best of everybody in mind and in their heart.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_01: And to challenge that convention was not acceptable.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, I'm sure you received the same message I did like your girl, stay small, stay silent.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_00: Don't speak your truth.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_01: You know, don't speak your truth.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_01: I can remember, and I I think I brought it up on the podcast before when I was a young girl, and I I loved participating in church.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_01: And I said to my mom, I said, I I would like to be an altar server.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_01: And it didn't even occur to me that there would be any reason I wouldn't be capable of doing it.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_01: And she was like, Well, only boys can do that.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_01: And I and I remember being like, like just like fully from my whole body, that does not make sense.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_01: And and I was like, I don't ex that's unacceptable.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_01: And she was like, Well, that's that's the law, that's the rule.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, That's a stupid rule.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_01: I don't like that rule, you know, so it's just it's so funny to me.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_01: And then it was like, well, you can't do that, but but you can, you know, you can be in the children's fire.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_01: And so that was kind of my my in.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_01: But I wanted to participate.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_01: I wanted, I enjoyed the the routine and and the you know, just the whole ritual of it.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_01: And I found it beautiful and the music beautiful.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_01: And I think I was I mean, when you're children, you don't you don't really understand as a child what what is like the reality of what's really happening.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_01: And and certainly there are very good people in these institutions and in these organizations, and so it is definitely not an all or nothing situation.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_01: However, when we look at the the big picture, there is a lot of pattern of abuse, trauma, suppression, oppression, you know, pick all of the all of the CD not so good themes, and anyone in a position of high power, like some of these people in these organized religions are have the potential to abuse that power.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_01: And that has happened.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_01: And it's a long way about it to get to what I wanted to really highlight about your experience is that you rejected that idea of God that you had been brought up with, who was connected to the time that you spent in a church, in a religion, and instead reached out for universal love and a God that would accept you at that moment on the floor with the boxes, with young children, divorced, going through cancer treatment, accept you, love you, and raise you up from right where you were.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_01: And when you asked, it was granted.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_01: And it wasn't that it wasn't, well, if you can get back to church once a week, and your tithing, and right, it was it was here I am.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: It was I love the way you said it because I'm gonna add to that because it was beautiful the way you said it.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_00: I'll add, I've been here all along.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I was waiting for you.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_00: I was waiting for you to come.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: But I've been I've been here all this time.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_00: I can say that now.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's been that was 2020.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_00: We're in 2026.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: It's been a while, and as you can see, I still feel that whenever I speak on it because it was so impactful for me.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_00: It changed every it changed my whole life.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_00: It that was a pivotal moment.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_00: I had no idea what I had just done.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I just changed my whole life in that in those 30 minutes, which it has taken me now to be this this, oh my god, this coach.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_00: I love being a coach, I love being a speaker and a writer because I get to I get to let people know that they're not alone because I felt alone.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_00: Having any diagnosis is so lonely, very lonely road.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: And I want others to know that they're not alone.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_00: No, that's my mission, that's my personal mission that people do not know that people realize that they there's someone there, and we do that how by sharing stories.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_00: So thank you for having this platform for people like me to share our our our stories and our journeys because they're not easy to tell, but they're necessary to share.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you're welcome.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm I feel so incredibly honored.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_01: And I think, you know, when people ask you, like, how, how did you do it?
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, there was so much that happened in that moment that you were on your knees and in tears, you had full self-awareness of exactly what was happening for you and and where you were, you accepted it, and you recognized what you needed, and you claimed it, like all within probably a fraction of time, and you and you recognized you needed to be resourced, and that the place that you needed that resource to come from was love, and that you needed someone to love you to protect you.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_01: And I think what's so beautiful is that you you made that recognition, it it was always there, you just had not tapped into it, and I think that is such an important point to highlight because there are people who are feeling lost and lonely, you know, no matter what the situation is on their journey, and you're absolutely right, they're not, they're not alone, and that that is, I think, so pivotal when you realize you're not alone, and whether that's feeling like you have that that connection with God source, light energy, you know, universe, love, whatever you call it, or recognizing the people in your life who go to bat for you when you don't realize it, or sitting down and writing down all the people who, if you called, would be there in a minute to say, give me a box, I'll do one for you, right?
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_01: So it's different for everyone, but there is support for you.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_01: It is there, you just have to be willing to surrender to that moment of like this is not happening without something or someone else supporting me a little bit, even if it's just holding my hand, even if it's just sitting next to me.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because I think that's such a human quality.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_01: We don't want to be fully alone.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: Agree.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_00: And and and you know, I don't want it to sound like it was easy to do because it wasn't, right?
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_00: I was on year 10 of taking chemo, and again, without source.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: For me, a source, right?
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_00: And for me, sources, mother goddess, father god, my archangels, my ancestors, the babies that I didn't get to bring to this world.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_00: These are all the energies that support me now.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_00: So, how lucky am I?
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_00: But when I didn't have that, I was having a lot of breakdowns.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_00: So it was all the breakdowns that were happening.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like the moment I decided I was gonna get a div, I wanted a divorce while taking chemo.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_00: And the moment I decided I'm gonna sell my children's childhood home.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_00: And then the moment I decided, okay, I'm gonna move to the state where I work, right?
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_00: And I and it was all these decisions and breakdowns that helped me hone in on this new foundation that I didn't realize that I needed.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_00: And it was love.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_00: Love for me, love for me, love for my six-year-old self.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: And that it came from all that, because for the first time in my life, I was putting myself first.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_00: Not my children who I love, but now I said I'm gonna parent myself the way I parent my children, because I recognized that I had I was number three or four on my own list.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_00: How dare I?
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure even my my source weren't happy with that.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_00: That's not what the source wants you to do.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_00: I put my children first.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_00: How much pressure did I put on them?
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_00: They were kids, babies.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_00: That's what you do when you put someone first before yourself.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_00: You're putting now pressure on them.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_00: And so and then I and then my my husband was number two.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_00: Look, already I'm losing, but when I decided I don't With the time to put me first.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_00: I had to come from a place of love and know that devotion to self is not narcissistic.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_00: It is not selfish.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: Devotion to self means that you are putting yourself in a place of calmness and not reactivity.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_00: And you're not looking for others to make you happy.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_00: That it is your responsibility to make yourself happy.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_00: Because I could I could continue blaming the people who weren't supporting me, the ex-husband, but ultimately I was the common denominator.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_00: So I had to look at myself and make myself responsible for my feelings.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_00: But here's the kicker.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_00: This is what really started to change everything for me and still does.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_00: I had to forgive myself.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: Because now I'm doing this, I'm 59.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_00: So I've had 59 years of stuff, right?
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't always show up the way I would have showed up now.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_00: So the things I said, the things I did, when I sabotaged myself, for when I didn't stand up for myself, didn't speak my truth, for when I put others' feelings first, for when I reacted and not came from a place of love or calmness.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_00: For when I projected, I mean, I I still forgive myself for things that come up.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: And so in 2021, it was actually during a full moon total lunar eclipse, May 26th, I wrote a forgiveness poem to myself because I had to forgive myself.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_00: That's part of self-love.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's what you do with that, right?
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, I I I've learned so much.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like the emotional growth just and I'm in my 60s.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_00: So when I hear people say, Oh, you know, I'm old, I can't learn something new.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_00: That's how I am.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_00: Those are not the people that I hang out with anymore.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_00: Those are not, you know, when I hear that inside, I cringe.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, please don't say that.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_00: You deserve so much more.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_00: There's so much to learn about yourself.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_00: If you're not showing up for yourself, you just can't.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_00: That's not the it doesn't, that's not the way it works.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_00: It's you first.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_00: And this is why being an entrepreneur, I find that every entrepreneur I meet tells me that the common denominator is self-love.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_00: It's knowing when to hire someone because right, your time is now needed somewhere else.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's rest and pausing.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_00: Even when you've got these deadlines, even when you've made commitments.
• 27:40
  unknown: Yeah.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_01: I there are so many beautiful gems.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna try and capture as many as I can.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_01: I love it though.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_01: I think the the one of the main themes you talked about was prioritizing yourself.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that is something as you know, so many of us women were brought up to put ourselves further on the list.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_01: Or we watched um uh a mom or mother figure, other women in our lives deprioritize themselves and really saw that.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_01: It was like serve everybody else, and if there's anything left, you know, like feed everybody food and you get the scraps off your plates, like that kind of mentality.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_01: And we're we're sort of literally fed that as kids.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_01: We were literally fed that as kids in so many different ways, our heads and our bodies.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_01: So I I also heard you talk about your children and and how it was really unfair to put them first because it's confusing and too much for them.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_01: And and a word that comes up for me related to that is sovereignty and really allowing everyone to have this sense of sovereignty and to support their sovereignty, and the idea that you get to be your own being with your own makeup and make your own mistakes.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_01: Nobody gets to come in and take that learning away from you.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_01: I think that was a huge piece of learning for me to like you can support people all you want, but you can't take away their pain, their experiences.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_01: I laugh.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_01: I live, I've been having so many dreams, and maybe it is the planets right now, but I had this dream.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_01: My mom comes to me in my dreams.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_01: My mom passed away from cancer in 2022, and I had this dream that she had to take this medication, and it was an intravenous medication, and it came out of this big box full of dirty laundry.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_01: So, like you all the imagery is showing up here, right?
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_01: And she she couldn't take it at the moment, and so I took it and I I went to you know plug it into me to take on her medication to heal her and to take care of her dirty laundry.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_01: And the message that I took away from that is you can't take someone else's medication for them, you can't heal for them, you can't heal or take on their dirty laundry, that's theirs, and it's never going to work for you to take it on.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_01: So I was really, I was like, these dreams that I have sometimes I really kind of laugh at because I'm like, it's so literal right there in front of me.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like, don't take on other people's healing or dirty laundry, like let them be their sovereign self.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_01: And that may mean that that we have people in our lives who never get to that point in this lifetime, and that's okay.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_01: It's okay to let that be.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_01: And it's really more about how do you form that relationship with yourself and forgiveness.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's like the third point that I feel is so, so vital.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_01: We hear about forgiveness, and I think we learn it, and it and it is definitely something we learn from um organized religion or from like conditioning, that like it's up to us to forgive others and to seek forgiveness from a god, but nobody necessarily taught us that we get to forgive ourselves, yeah, and we can do that so beautifully through reparenting, and that that that parenting journey didn't end when you became an official adult, that you can you can now go back and just said heal that six-year-old girl and heal those things and and reach back in time because I believe that there like time is all overlapping each other, so it isn't so linear.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_01: So you can literally go back to that version of yourself, and you are literally healing her.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_01: You're you're hugging her, you're the tall force in her life that envelops her and says it's gonna be okay, and I got you.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_01: And there's never an expiration date, not not 50, not 70, not 90.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it doesn't that that it's irrelevant.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's a way of tracking time, but it's not the only way.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_01: And so I think that is such beautiful permission to people.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_01: Prioritize, like, where do you start?
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_01: Be aware, prioritize yourself, allow other people their own sovereignty, forgive yourself right.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_01: Those are like some great first steps to take, and then it's taking it to the streets.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_01: It's like you you can talk a good game, you can pray on your knees and be like, This is what I'm gonna do.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_01: You write it in your journal, but then it is the actual walking that walk, and I think that is where you can make that shift that you've made to being an author, a coach, a successful entrepreneur, and continuing not only on that journey for yourself feeling, but also being able to inspire and support others in their own journey.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_01: So I would love for you to share a little bit about the work that you're doing and maybe where you see those possibilities now in 2026 as we can feel there is a flavor of something different in the air.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I and I I totally agree.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_00: There is something different in the air.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_00: I won't go into it too much, but we are in the year, we're going into the year of the horse in February of 2026.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_00: So we just we're leaving the year of the snake, and the snake we're shedding.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_00: We're shedding all the things that do not serve us.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_00: And then in the horse for me signifies run, get, let's do this, right?
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_00: Because now you've gotten you you've you've moved through, right?
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_00: Heartache, not showing up for yourself.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_00: You move through all that.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_00: Now you know how to move, how you want to move through the world, right?
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_00: And so now in 2026, after February, things are gonna go fast.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_00: So the universe is gonna say, Oh, this is what you've been manifesting here.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_00: And it's all gonna come, you know, you're gonna be working 10, 12 hour days because it's gonna come fast.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_00: And so I had to start from the beginning.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_00: And so actually, one of the things, beautiful things, and this is where I love meeting people like you, because I worked with this hypnotherapist who helped me go back to my childhood home and see my six-year-old self.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_00: And girl, I cried so much when I saw her because I literally walked into that apartment, into excuse me, my bedroom, and she was there standing there waiting for me.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I hugged her and I told her how much I loved her.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_00: And I said to her, I'm sorry that sometimes I didn't take good care of you, that sometimes I put us in situations that we should not have been in, that we weren't prepared for, and just to know that some those some of those things weren't really about us.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_00: It was about the people around us.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_00: And they did the best they could with what they had, with their own traumas and their own limiting beliefs.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_00: But now that I am the adult, I get to parent you the way you wanted to be parent.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_00: So, with the help of this hypnotherapist, and he lived in Germany at the time, and I was living in New York, beautiful technology.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_00: I got to hold her, I got to speak to her, I got to cry with her.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_00: Interesting enough, I left her there.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_00: But a year ago, I went back, I took her home with me.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_00: So now I don't live in New York, I live on the East Coast near the Atlantic Ocean.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_00: I she's here with me in this apartment.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_00: Because it was a year ago that I said, why don't I have her here with me?
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_00: And I went back and I got her.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_00: I said, You're coming with me.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_00: I got you.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna have a beautiful life, I promise you.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_00: And it all starts with the morning practice.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_00: You know, how we start our day and how we end our day just anchors everything for me.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I had to relearn.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_00: So I used to be a person who watched the news every morning, right?
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_00: You wake up, you put on the news.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I had no idea that I was so empathic that it was not a good thing for me to do because I was feeling the weight of the world.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_00: And as you point beautifully pointed out, I was taking on everyone's everyone's stuff.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_00: And I wanted to take care of everyone.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_00: So I wasn't starting in a good place in the morning, but I had no idea because that's the way I was brought up.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_04: Right?
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_00: You wake up in the and channel 7 is on ABC or CBS or something.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and so I had to make a lot of changes.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_00: So one of the changes that I love in morning practice, and this is what I say to her, my six-year-old self.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_00: Good morning, my love.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_00: The moment my eyes wake up, good morning, my love.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_00: What does my heart feel?
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_00: What does my heart want today?
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_00: And then I just listen.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I do like a body scan.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't look at my calendar to know what's going on, and I just listen.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_00: And sometimes I and you know, my mom recently had a stroke, which you know.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_00: So what I've been the answers are coming up differently, right?
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_00: Because they your energy changes.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_00: And so there were days where I I just said, we just want to be calm today.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_00: We just want to feel peace in our heart because I was feeling dysregulated.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, my pressure was going up.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_00: And so there were times where I was just asking for something so simple.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like, or just help me be more present.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_00: Just help me be more present, right?
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_00: Nothing, nothing, not asking for not asking for I'm asking for my things of myself, but I'm asking God to help me.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_00: I'm asking my archangels to to help me, to support me, because they want to, and and let me just say, they're there for all of us.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not the only special person, they're there for all of us.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_00: They're just answering to the people who are asking for them.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_00: So if other people want to get in touch with spirit, know that they're listening.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_00: You can't take a moment and go, I'm gonna try this out.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_00: And it may and you may not feel anything because it's about feeling, right?
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_00: You don't see you may not see anything, but it's that feeling.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_00: And you start, you start to condition yourself.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my God, you're gonna get a lot of feedback.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_00: So again, it starts with the morning, right?
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_00: And then I start, I answer, I tell my my six-year-old self, little Zarada, I got you.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_00: The other day I said, we're gonna lead with courage today.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_00: Whatever that looks like.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_00: And then I do it.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_01: So beautiful.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_01: I love this.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_01: No, keep keep going, keep going.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_01: I'm loving it.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, and then I do an affirmation.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_00: So usually the affirmation is something like I'm reading the book Worthy by Jamie Kern Lima.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_00: So normally, usually it's I am worthy.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_00: I am enough.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_00: Marissa Peer, who I love.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_00: I don't have to know everything.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it all depends on again on when I'm listening, it all depends on that message.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_00: That message drives everything.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_00: And this is how I start every morning.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, and I it seems like such a simple shift, but it really is so powerful.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_01: And it it's you've got 365 days a year that you're waking up intentionally participating in healing your inner child in that relationship with her, which is you know, beyond beautiful.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just over here like crying, hearing that story, and like thinking about how many women who will hear your message and will recognize oh, I can do that.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_01: That's something I can do.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_01: I can I can go back, you know, whether you do that with a trained specialist or you just sit there and quiet on your own.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, you you're still here, your your small self is still present and available to you.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_01: And the just the idea of you bringing her to be with you all the time is really so amazing.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_01: And what really struck me, and I had a little bit of an aha moment when you were talking about, you know, connecting with with spirit, source, angels, guides, archangels that you just really have to ask them.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_01: And I was thinking about how they are probably coming from this place of not interfering because we have that sovereignty, because they're not going to take our sovereignty away and tell us what to do.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_01: It's our own journey.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_01: And we have free will, and we have free will.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's what that really means, that we we get to make all those decisions, yeah, and that as soon as you request that support, it is given immediately.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_01: Like you said, all of us, all of us, you know, and there's not there's no scarcity model for that because it's not, it doesn't exist in our 3D worlds that way.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's a completely different way of operating, and the source and energy is endless.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_01: And I think sometimes for people to look at someone like you who seems to have an endless amount of love and energy, and say, where is it coming from?
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_01: Well, what did you say?
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_01: You you rest, you have your daily rituals to care for yourself, you're prioritizing yourself, you're forgiving yourself.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_01: The healing is is a 24-7 process, and you're not doing it alone, you're tapped in, and that's that's where it makes a difference, where we're not depleting ourselves and giving from like this human body to everybody because that is that is limited, right?
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_01: And we will break down, and most of us have in some way, shape, or form.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_01: But when we're tapped into something bigger than ourselves, then it we have endless energy, love, source, support, and discernment, right?
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_01: That like you, like you said, I'm not watching the news and like taking on all of this pain and feeling like I've got to transmute this pain.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_01: I'm saying, no, I've I've gotta do me, I've I've gotta be courageous or present or kind or pause or rest more.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_01: And that is my effort and work because when I do get into a relationship with someone, whether it's work or family or whatever it happens to be, where I'm operating from and the and the the vibration that I'm at, the love that I'm able to hold in my space in my body, is how I make decisions and support and impact others.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_01: So it's like that do no harm, right?
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_01: Because we've already done well for ourselves, that it's so much easier to do for others.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and and people like you and me, you know, we're healers, we help others heal.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_00: But first we have to heal ourselves, right?
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_00: When we come from that that place of giving from an overflowing cup, then we can pour.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_00: And I and I know you pour because I've had numerous conversations with you, and I I always come back with so much wisdom and aha moments because you are a pourer yourself.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_00: You pour your wisdom, you help people see things in a different way.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_00: You cannot do that if you don't come from this overflowing cup.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_00: And that overflowing cup means now you're giving freely and lovingly.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_00: Let's just put the word lovingly back.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_00: You're doing it at a place of love.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_00: Exponentially, can you see what it's doing to it would do to the world?
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm feeling tingles right now, just thinking about it, right?
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_00: But that's because you started with you, right?
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_00: That overflowing cup.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_00: So now comes you did your eight, 10 hours at night during the day of giving, giving, giving.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_00: And now comes the evening and you're not depleted.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_00: Because I know I know the hours I work, right?
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_00: And it's all love.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_00: It's all love.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_00: And so to not be depleted in the evening and still have and still be able to come from a place of gratitude.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_00: And then anchor the evening with the evening practice.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_00: I could tell you about that.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I anchor it.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, and and I do it in the afternoon too.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like I take a break during the afternoon because I I need I need that moment to myself where I could take that breath.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_00: Then we can help others.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I love the fact that, and I've seen this in the last 10 years.
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_00: How many coaches are out there helping people?
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_00: You know, when I said to someone that I was going to be a coach, you know what someone said to me?
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_00: And this is someone that I've known since I was 10 years old.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_00: She said, Oh, there's so many coaches out there.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there are a lot of coaches.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_00: I've been lucky enough to be in rooms with hundreds of them.
• 47:18
  SPEAKER_00: And here's what I find that each one is so individually different.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_00: Each one has something to offer.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_00: One person.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_00: Having a lot of coaches is not a bad thing.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_00: These are the same people who have are healing themselves because you and I are always on this healing journey.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't stop.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it all starts with devotion to self.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_00: It starts with, and again, like you said, we have sovereignty.
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_00: You can you have we have free will.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_00: You can choose not to.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_00: But when you do come from a place of this gratitude, because that's what happens, you're in gratitude.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't feel like work.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_00: So when you don't remember that scene when we were kids, people would say, Oh, do what you love, and it won't feel like work.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_00: Well, we've heard that our entire lives, but have we how many of us really do practice it?
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_00: And it's not just work work, it's how you parent your children.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's it's how you do not let yourself sit in that dirty diaper for too long, right?
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_00: Because devotion to self is more than that mani petty and a back rub.
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's also not sitting in that dirty diaper when you're sad.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, be sad for a little while, process it, work through it.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_00: Why and all that.
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_00: But don't be sad for 72 hours a week.
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_00: That's not helping you or right.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_00: So at some point you have to go back to gratitude.
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so how do how do I I I deserve, I just yes, things are not good right now, but I deserve to find joy right now.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_00: What can I do to bring joy right now?
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_00: And sometimes it's just to go out in nature and take a quick walk around the nation, just to change the scenery.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes it's to do a little meditation, sometimes it's to do some downward dog yoga.
• 49:28
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes it's just to be and just sit on your bed and look at the ceiling and just let your mind wander, right?
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_00: Again, going back to that devotion to stuff.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_00: You you you I find all those different modalities and I work through them and see what works and what doesn't work.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_00: I'll do something else until I get to that point.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes, and sometimes it'll take an hour, sometimes it takes five minutes.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_00: Hell, sometimes it takes a week.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I don't know about you, but I've been feeling this Mars and Capricorn, I've been feeling all these astrological planets.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_00: These are these these really structured planets, right?
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_00: Because we're going through all these shifts.
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_00: I'm feeling it.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_00: I know I'm not the only one.
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_00: I may have a different language for it, but we're all feeling it, right?
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_00: Again, the year the snake, we're we're shedding, we're letting go.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my God.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_00: So sometimes it takes it takes a long time while you're sitting in it, but how are you sitting in it?
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_00: Is is what I teach people.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_00: I teach people, okay, how are you moving through that?
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_00: I know I've been I've been kind of sad for the last six weeks when my mother had that stroke.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_00: But how am I moving through it?
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_00: That's the key for me.
• 50:48
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 50:48
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't take away that my heart is broken.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_00: And now not only do I have clients who are caregivers, I'm a caregiver.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_00: I'm a caregiver from afar because I live in a different state.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_00: So now I am I am really understanding the caregiver's point of view.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_00: Again, devotion to self comes first.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_00: I can't take care of her if I'm coming from a place of fear and anxiety.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_00: So I've I've learned so many lessons to do this challenge of mom's health.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't think I could take devotion to self to a higher level, but I have.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_00: Here you are.
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_00: And and and one of the ways I've been doing that is I'm dancing in front of the mirror, singing love songs to myself.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_00: And yes, sometimes I'm crying while doing it.
• 51:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_01: I I love this so much because you know, people will maybe look at someone's journey and say, well, yeah, I mean, they they survived this, they moved on, they've got all this, things are working out for them.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_01: But it really comes to when things get challenging, when you know you become a caregiver, you have another personal challenge.
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_01: It's an opportunity to really keep those practices going and really show how much you've grown to yourself, right?
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_01: And it's in those relationships and those moments that you get to integrate what you've really learned.
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_01: I I I've heard it described as kind of like we're we're experiencing this crystal tower and and this spiral staircase goes and we keep casting the same scene, right, as we come around the circle.
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_01: We don't know how quickly or or slowly we're gonna get back there, but we're we're at a higher level when we look at it.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_01: And so it's it's healing and integrating at a different level, and and it goes on forever, right?
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_01: Until until we're no longer alive on the planet at this time, that healing is still available to us.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_01: And it's not about, I think what you said, like don't sit in that dirty diaper is such a good, like visual.
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_01: Like, are you just like festering?
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_01: Are you are you like really sinking in and attaching to the misery, making it an identity for yourself?
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_01: Or are you like accepting, you know, hitting the floor?
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_01: I accept it, I'm aware of it, I choose myself, I prioritize myself, I have support.
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_01: I I am allowed to feel my feelings, and I don't know if you relate to this or not, but I I believe that most of my life my feelings were something I intellectualized until I realized like that's not really feeling your feelings in your body.
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_01: And when you start to feel your feelings in your body, acknowledge them, allow them to be, sit with them, hold their hand.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_01: What do I need to learn from this?
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_01: How do I need to grow from this?
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_01: Where is there an unmet need?
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_01: Am I hungry?
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_01: Am I thirsty?
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_01: Did I forget to eat?
• 54:15
  SPEAKER_01: Am I am I out of my rest practice?
• 54:17
  SPEAKER_01: Am I sleeping?
• 54:19
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, did I stop my rituals that were serving me and use that as like now it's what is the next natural step?
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_01: Like you said in the beginning, what is I'm gonna start, I'm gonna open a box and I'm gonna put away one item.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what is that moment for you?
• 54:36
  SPEAKER_01: And what is the thing that you need to do?
• 54:38
  SPEAKER_01: Is it what I need to do?
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_01: Instead of feeling like I'm caregiving for everybody, I got all this stuff on my plate.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_01: Do I do I need to go take a shower?
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_01: Do I need to go make myself a cup of coffee and actually sit and put my feet up in a cozy blanket and enjoy it and just you know, stare at the wall, let my mind wander.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_01: And I think part of that, we didn't really touch too much on it, but that like being your authentic self and allowing yourself to choose the practices and the things that resonate and that you find joy in, and not make it about anything except that, and that you know, for somebody else, it might be I'm gonna get up and I'm gonna go to the gym at five, and that really fuels them.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_01: But if for you it's getting up and you sit on the couch and you fill out your journal pages and you fill your cup in the morning and you remind yourself who you are, why you're here, what you want to do, who you intend to be, that you should just embrace that.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that is something that I'm really passionate about, people really embracing that authentic self.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, to respond to, you know, what somebody said to you, there's just so many coaches, but but no other coach is going to come from the perspective that you are, and you can learn as much as you want from other people, but it's still okay to do it your way, to say, great, thanks for that inspiration and information.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_01: I may use it or I may not, and it has nothing to do with whether you're effective or not, it's more how true I am to myself.
• 56:15
  SPEAKER_01: And I feel like that has become a huge piece for me to have my own inner compass and my own inner knowing of myself and have the courage when something doesn't align with me to be like, I'm not gonna do it that way.
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_01: Even though everybody's gonna tell me, everybody's gonna tell me you should be doing a group program.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_01: If I decide that my journey is about one-on-one conversations with people, one-on-one coaching, and I'm gonna do it in my style and my way, then I'm gonna do that bravely.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, in the face of everybody telling me that's not what you're supposed to do.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_01: You know, yeah, because it's it's my part of my journey in embracing who who I really truly am and how powerful that can be.
• 57:06
  unknown: Yeah.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_00: That authenticity, going back to what you just said, you know, it's what it's why I hire coaches.
• 57:15
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm talking about coaches that help me, right?
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_00: I've hired hypnotherapists, NLPs, business coaches.
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_00: I have a business coach.
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_00: A coach cannot live without a coach because you're constantly, you're constantly evolving as a person.
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_00: And when you keep continue to evolve as a person, emotionally, mentally, physically, and spiritually, your business starts to change as well.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_00: And so now that's just another layer on top of the growth.
• 57:46
  SPEAKER_00: And the growth just keeps happening, but the foundation is the devotion to self.
• 57:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_00: And and I'm gonna I'm gonna say this because I maybe somebody needs to hear this.
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_00: I asked Spirit to to before I came on to say talk about the thing that someone needs to hear.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_00: So this is what someone needs to hear.
• 58:11
  SPEAKER_00: For those of our children, we do most of us would never allow our child to sit in a dirty diaper.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_00: The moment a mother her instincts smell something foul and smells that child's uh diaper, she immediately stops what she's doing and she tends to her child.
• 58:37
  SPEAKER_00: She makes sure that she removes that dirty diaper, that she cleans the person's bottom, and then replace it with a clean diaper.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_00: And we do that consistentially.
• 58:50
  SPEAKER_00: This is what devotion to self means for us as adults.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_00: We wouldn't allow that with for our child.
• 58:57
  SPEAKER_00: So why do we allow ourselves to sit in that dirty diaper?
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_00: Now, you know, a kid could sit in a dirty diaper for 10 minutes, 15 minutes, but you know you're not gonna allow that child to sit in a diaper for more than for hours.
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_00: You just because why?
• 59:15
  SPEAKER_00: Because you love this child.
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_00: So where's the love for yourself?
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_00: This is why I always come up with that dirty diaper analogy.
• 59:23
  SPEAKER_00: And it was my spiritual teacher, because I have a lot of spiritual teachers, um, because I couldn't do this all by myself, who came up with that analogy and it stuck with me.
• 59:33
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, the dirty diaper thing.
• 59:35
  SPEAKER_00: So now that I'm a parent to 20-year-old men, I I tell them, don't sit in that dirty diaper.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_00: They know exactly what I'm talking about.
• 59:44
  SPEAKER_00: They know that they're what I'm saying to them is, hey, you're not devoting to self.
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_00: Now, that doesn't mean that they they follow everything that I say, because teaching them by example, but they're understanding now.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, at first I thought it was foo-foo.
• 1:00:05
  SPEAKER_00: Oh mom, you know, you just want to take care of everyone.
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_00: You're just so nice.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_00: No boy.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, well, I think I'm more kind.
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_00: I I I like the word kind than nice because nice, uh.
• 1:00:19
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm just saying I said, I just look at it from my point of view, right?
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_00: I said, so don't sit in that dirty diaper.
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_00: That that found we're not taught that.
• 1:00:30
  SPEAKER_00: Remember, we our parents didn't teach it to us because their parents didn't teach it to them.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_00: The moment I was bored, the moment as a kid I said I was bored, as a parent or a relative would say, Oh, I'll give you something to do.
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_00: You can't be bored.
• 1:00:50
  SPEAKER_00: Society tells you.
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_00: Society has always been telling us, it's recently that things have been shifting in the last 30 years about the pausing and the resting and the sleeping patterns.
• 1:01:01
  SPEAKER_00: Very important.
• 1:01:03
  SPEAKER_00: But we weren't brought up that way.
• 1:01:04
  SPEAKER_00: So I had to relearn.
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I literally had to restructure myself.
• 1:01:10
  SPEAKER_00: Now, I have generational trauma that I still work through and past life trauma.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_00: So I worked through those to so I've stopped the cycle on three that I know of.
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_00: I actually told Spirit.
• 1:01:28
  SPEAKER_00: I told Spirit not too long ago, okay, I don't want to know anymore.
• 1:01:31
  SPEAKER_00: I need a break because I've been doing this for 10 years.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_00: We're only those three that I knew of.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:39
  SPEAKER_00: It's a lot.
• 1:01:40
  SPEAKER_00: But no matter what is going on in the world outside diagnosis, the wars, because the world we're living in right now, right?
• 1:01:55
  SPEAKER_00: Prices are going up, everybody's feeling unstable.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_00: I know that I am being the best person that I can be for myself, which means that I am such a big contributor to humanity.
• 1:02:10
  SPEAKER_00: That that is everything for me.
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_00: I know you feel it too.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_00: Giving to the world.
• 1:02:16
  SPEAKER_00: I'm giving to my community, I'm holding my community.
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_00: And my community isn't just the cancer people or the people with diagnoses or the people with generational trauma or the people who live within a 10-block radius.
• 1:02:33
  SPEAKER_00: My community is the world.
• 1:02:35
  SPEAKER_00: That's how you and I feel about this, the work we do.
• 1:02:40
  SPEAKER_00: And we do it by doing taking care of ourselves, by bringing that balance, that alignment, that emotional growth to ourselves, for ourselves, so that then we can help others.
• 1:02:51
  SPEAKER_00: Not coming from ego, right?
• 1:02:55
  SPEAKER_00: Not coming from a place of the mind telling you, oh, this would be good for your career, and that I'm talking about coming from a place where the heart is the leader.
• 1:03:05
  SPEAKER_00: And everything we do, we do it with love because the heart is involved.
• 1:03:09
  SPEAKER_00: And I notice that every time I do something that my heart says, yes, let's do it.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_00: I get so many other gifts, like the gift to be on this podcast with you.
• 1:03:24
  SPEAKER_00: I love.
• 1:03:25
  SPEAKER_00: Look at the opportunity I would not have had.
• 1:03:29
  SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't be here speaking with you on devotion to self.
• 1:03:33
  SPEAKER_00: And someone who needed to hear that would not have heard that.
• 1:03:39
  SPEAKER_00: You see how giving to yourself gives to other people?
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's magic.
• 1:03:44
  SPEAKER_00: It's magic.
• 1:03:45
  SPEAKER_00: But it's so easy to ignite yourself.
• 1:03:56
  SPEAKER_00: That you deserve to devote to yourself, that you do not need anything external to bring you validation.
• 1:04:06
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's the difference between self-worth and self-confidence.
• 1:04:10
  SPEAKER_00: I learned that the hard way.
• 1:04:20
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, and that that is that's absolutely valid.
• 1:04:23
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's everything happens in perfect time.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_01: And my only aside to that I was gonna say is that you know, we originally were supposed to record back end of 2025, and and we needed to change it.
• 1:04:38
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, in the past, I I've really subscribed to people saying, like, oh, like you if you say you're gonna do something, you have to do it, like hold people accountable.
• 1:04:47
  SPEAKER_01: Have to be an integrity, yes, be an integrity.
• 1:04:50
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, I don't know if that's true for me or not.
• 1:04:54
  SPEAKER_01: I actually think, you know, like if somebody shows up late, if if somebody has to cancel, like I really, it doesn't really bother me.
• 1:05:03
  SPEAKER_01: I don't let it ruffle me, and I I really just have so much trust in other people, in myself and in the universe, that things are going to happen at the time in the way that they are supposed to, and any of the perceived imperfections are are really serving a larger purpose, so I don't need to overanalyze or worry about it.
• 1:05:28
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't know about you, but when somebody says to me, like, don't worry about it, and it's not like a snide, like, don't worry about it, it's like it's literally don't don't give it a second thought.
• 1:05:41
  SPEAKER_01: I got you, this is fine.
• 1:05:42
  SPEAKER_01: This this will work out just fine.
• 1:05:44
  SPEAKER_01: And and yeah, having that like just permission to let it go is so relieving.
• 1:05:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I'm sure for you, everything that you've been going through with your mom, like just not having to have those concerns and move forward and do what you need to do for yourself and your family.
• 1:06:03
  SPEAKER_01: I think I think that too is so important and so valid.
• 1:06:07
  SPEAKER_01: And so I I really appreciate that.
• 1:06:10
  SPEAKER_01: And and we can always look back in hindsight and say, how how amazing and beautiful that this is the episode that is leading the the first episode for me in 2026, and we're we're talking at a very potent time in terms of where the planets and energies are, and we're not quite into February when that horse is really gonna start, you know, running.
• 1:06:40
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm I'm also excited that it's the year of the horses.
• 1:06:43
  SPEAKER_01: The year of the fire horse.
• 1:06:44
  SPEAKER_01: And what really comes to mind is I don't know if you've watched any Marvel movies, but there's this, there are these characters, I think it was in Thor, like the Thor kind of movies, and there's a character who's a Valkyrie, and they ride Pegasus.
• 1:07:03
  SPEAKER_01: Pegasus?
• 1:07:05
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_01: She rides a Pegasus, and so it's a flying horse into battle.
• 1:07:10
  SPEAKER_01: These like very ferocious, strong women.
• 1:07:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and they're like the strongest warriors that there are.
• 1:07:18
  SPEAKER_01: And so, like when I think of a fire horse, I think of the Valkyrie, these like strong, powerful warrior women like flying into battle, into to fight the good fight.
• 1:07:32
  SPEAKER_01: And that energy feels, like you said, very different than the year of the stake and the shedding.
• 1:07:37
  SPEAKER_01: And and it was a nine year, so a lot of closings.
• 1:07:40
  SPEAKER_01: And I just decided to use that energy, like, not just like, you know, what am I shedding, what am I leaving behind, but like really what are the mindsets, what is what are the pieces of conditioning and and challenging every aspect of the the thoughts.
• 1:07:58
  SPEAKER_01: That I think in the things that I do, it does this make sense, does this resonate?
• 1:08:02
  SPEAKER_01: Does it not?
• 1:08:04
  SPEAKER_01: So now we have January where we have this really potent time to pause and breathe and be.
• 1:08:16
  SPEAKER_01: Breathe.
• 1:08:16
  SPEAKER_01: Breathing is important.
• 1:08:18
  SPEAKER_01: Breathe and be.
• 1:08:20
  SPEAKER_01: And uh the vision that comes for me is like being in a cave with a fire, cozied up.
• 1:08:29
  SPEAKER_01: The world outside is doing whatever it's doing, but I'm in my cozy, safe cave, hibernating, right?
• 1:08:37
  SPEAKER_01: And just sitting in the moment and letting my body recalibrate, figure out through like body wisdom what is my next step, and like being okay with being at the threshold of something, and not having to have certainty about what that next piece looks like.
• 1:09:00
  SPEAKER_01: And so that's how I'm choosing to operate in January.
• 1:09:05
  SPEAKER_01: So it is really special to me that I was able to have this conversation with you and to dive into some really meaningful pieces of your journey.
• 1:09:16
  SPEAKER_01: And I think the thing that I love the most with a story like yours is those practical bits of wisdom that people can now take into their lives.
• 1:09:29
  SPEAKER_01: And I really hope, listener, that you've come this far in the podcast and just enjoyed the stories and the journey that Zarida has shared with us because, like she said several times, it's not just about her.
• 1:09:44
  SPEAKER_01: Anybody can do this, anybody can have this.
• 1:09:46
  SPEAKER_01: It is accessible to all of us.
• 1:09:49
  SPEAKER_01: We can start from square one with nothing.
• 1:09:52
  SPEAKER_01: And I invite you to take this time to winter and be think about all of this wisdom that you've given us that you've put in the palms of our hands for us to now say, where am I applying this?
• 1:10:10
  SPEAKER_01: Where am I either saying, wow, I've been doing that, and yes, I have to keep doing it.
• 1:10:14
  SPEAKER_01: Who's going like back in time to their six-year-old little self and saying, Come with me, I'm gonna come take the best care of you that I know how now, with with the years of wisdom I have.
• 1:10:26
  SPEAKER_01: And so the last thing I would love for you to tell us is what you have coming up and where people can connect with you to continue to tap into your wisdom.
• 1:10:37
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, thank you so much.
• 1:10:39
  SPEAKER_00: There's so much day I want to say, but I know there's not a lot of time.
• 1:10:43
  SPEAKER_00: That's another podcast.
• 1:10:47
  SPEAKER_00: Let me just say that I want to offer your audience the what's your energy archetype quiz.
• 1:10:54
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:10:55
  SPEAKER_00: What I love, and what I love about this quiz is that you can take it every week.
• 1:11:02
  SPEAKER_00: And every week it's going to give you different results because again, it taps into your current energy.
• 1:11:08
  SPEAKER_00: So this energy quiz is quick, 10 questions.
• 1:11:13
  SPEAKER_00: I I created it myself.
• 1:11:15
  SPEAKER_00: So I wanted 10 quick questions, no more than 10 words per question.
• 1:11:21
  SPEAKER_00: And one of the and so it gives you an idea of how you're waking up.
• 1:11:26
  SPEAKER_00: How are you feeling mind, body, physical, and spirit, right?
• 1:11:32
  SPEAKER_00: And where you may need to tap into that to up-level.
• 1:11:36
  SPEAKER_00: So it's not telling you where you, it's not telling you, it's telling you where you decide how much of it you want to go, you want to go, but it's going to give you this blueprint of okay, you're waking up going, uh, another day.
• 1:11:55
  SPEAKER_00: That's a mind thing.
• 1:11:56
  SPEAKER_00: What modalities can, well, what questions can we ask, right?
• 1:12:02
  SPEAKER_00: That you're feeling that way.
• 1:12:03
  SPEAKER_00: But then what are the modalities that you can use to get you there, to get you those answers?
• 1:12:09
  SPEAKER_00: And so the first question that I uh that I have is when you wake up in the morning, how are you feeling?
• 1:12:17
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 1:12:18
  SPEAKER_00: Are you saying, I get to, I get to be on this podcast with Kelly Marsen?
• 1:12:23
  SPEAKER_00: Or are you feeling like my body, my body's not ready for it and it needs another some more sleep, right?
• 1:12:31
  SPEAKER_00: Again, there's nothing wrong with any of them.
• 1:12:33
  SPEAKER_00: It's just letting you know where you're at.
• 1:12:35
  SPEAKER_00: This quiz helps you understand where you're at and then gives you the modalities and then micropractices to shift that.
• 1:12:44
  SPEAKER_00: And so you'll get like three emails.
• 1:12:46
  SPEAKER_00: So I encourage everyone to do it.
• 1:12:48
  SPEAKER_00: I just did it the other day and I realized how much my energy has shifted from before my mother had the stroke and after I had the stroke.
• 1:12:56
  SPEAKER_00: And then I went, oh, I need, I want to, I get to put more work into the mind energy because that's where I am feeling depleted.
• 1:13:09
  SPEAKER_00: So that's for your audience.
• 1:13:12
  SPEAKER_00: I'm doing this.
• 1:13:14
  SPEAKER_00: So, like you, I'm doing what my heart says.
• 1:13:18
  SPEAKER_00: Spirit has told me that he gives me messages.
• 1:13:22
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of it is through numbers.
• 1:13:24
  SPEAKER_00: I'm into numerology as well.
• 1:13:26
  SPEAKER_00: But here's what he this is what I'm learning.
• 1:13:30
  SPEAKER_00: Whatever my heart says yes to, that's he's okay with it.
• 1:13:34
  SPEAKER_00: Unless I unless I I I feel something's not right, then that's a message that I can't say yes yet.
• 1:13:43
  SPEAKER_00: But if I'm feeling oh, 100%, go, go, run, do it.
• 1:13:49
  SPEAKER_00: And so I'm doing the things I love.
• 1:13:51
  SPEAKER_00: So next Saturday, I am one of the speakers at a reclaim your energy, mind, body, spirit reset.
• 1:14:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I'm gonna use the three pillars of nutrition plus AI to do a 30-minute interactive.
• 1:14:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we're going to use the the energy archetype quiz and and then I'm going to ask people to give me their answers, and then we're going to put it in AI, and everyone's going to hear what AI says, right, about it.
• 1:14:27
  SPEAKER_00: So AI, if you tell AI, I want to elevate my mind energy.
• 1:14:33
  SPEAKER_00: And because these are my goals, we'll put that in AI, and then AI will tell us, oh, well, try meditation, try, you know, sound healing, try or whatever.
• 1:14:43
  SPEAKER_00: It'll give you some information.
• 1:14:45
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm really looking forward because I'm doing this with 15 other people, and these 15 people are all amazing.
• 1:14:53
  SPEAKER_00: And they everyone has everyone is a different type of person.
• 1:14:56
  SPEAKER_00: Not everyone there is a coach.
• 1:14:58
  SPEAKER_00: So we have entrepreneurs, we have writers, we have, we actually have a musician.
• 1:15:03
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we have all kinds of people there, right?
• 1:15:06
  SPEAKER_00: And then my big, big project for 2026, I'm birthing the Cancer Thrivership program.
• 1:15:13
  SPEAKER_00: So this program, I I live right near the Virginia Beach Ocean.
• 1:15:18
  SPEAKER_00: I live in the Virginia Beach Ocean Front.
• 1:15:21
  SPEAKER_00: I'm a water person and I get very creative.
• 1:15:23
  SPEAKER_00: And so while living here, it came to me that I want to build a program based on the three pillars of nutrition, with devotion to self being the foundation, because everything is on devotion to self for cancer survivors and caregivers, so that these cancer centers can give it to them so that they can not just survive.
• 1:15:50
  SPEAKER_00: We want to thrive.
• 1:15:56
  SPEAKER_00: And how do you do that?
• 1:15:57
  SPEAKER_00: Using those three pillars.
• 1:16:01
  SPEAKER_00: And so I'm gonna sell it to the cancer centers and they're gonna give it for free to the caregivers and the survivors.
• 1:16:12
  SPEAKER_00: And so I am having conversations with people who are oncology nurses, with finance people who can want to partner with me and and and then speak to those CMOs, right?
• 1:16:27
  SPEAKER_00: This the C-suite people.
• 1:16:30
  SPEAKER_00: I'm also working, meeting with people who work cancer centers.
• 1:16:35
  SPEAKER_00: I'll speak to anyone actually.
• 1:16:36
  SPEAKER_00: If anyone wants to get in touch with me and say, hey, I have an idea.
• 1:16:39
  SPEAKER_00: I know I know someone, I'm happy to, they can reach me at well, I live on LinkedIn.
• 1:16:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:16:47
  SPEAKER_00: It's the perfect place, right?
• 1:16:49
  SPEAKER_00: I'm there three days out of the week.
• 1:16:51
  SPEAKER_00: I write about everything I'm speaking about now.
• 1:16:55
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm at my website is zeratamorales.com.
• 1:16:59
  SPEAKER_00: I'm building a new website called lifebydesign.com.
• 1:17:04
  SPEAKER_00: You can reach me at uh LinkedIn, Zerata Morales.
• 1:17:08
  SPEAKER_00: I'm the one always in the red suit because there's a few Zerata Morales.
• 1:17:11
  SPEAKER_00: I'm on Instagram, I'm on Facebook.
• 1:17:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:17:16
  SPEAKER_00: You know, anyone who wants to know how to how to how to make a shift, how to make a mindset shift when the world or the people, places, and things are telling you that you cannot contact me because I'll show you how to do that.
• 1:17:33
  SPEAKER_01: Guess what?
• 1:17:34
  SPEAKER_01: Spoiler alert, don't be limited because it's it's it's not real, it's not a real limitation, right?
• 1:17:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:17:42
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, I just finished working with someone who is going through a divorce.
• 1:17:46
  SPEAKER_00: I just finished working with someone who got a pre-diabetes diagnosis.
• 1:17:51
  SPEAKER_00: So it's not just cancer, because again, the for me, the whole premise in is how I healed myself.
• 1:17:58
  SPEAKER_00: This is all lived experience, how I healed myself, right?
• 1:18:03
  SPEAKER_00: Not of the cancer, I'm not a medical doctor, but how I healed myself here emotionally, mentally, physically, spiritually, it was devotion to self.
• 1:18:15
  SPEAKER_01: I I love that so much.
• 1:18:16
  SPEAKER_01: And I would love, love, love, love to have you come back in a few months' time when the energy will most certainly be a little bit different.
• 1:18:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:18:29
  SPEAKER_01: And it sounds like you have a really exciting 2026 planned.
• 1:18:34
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you again for being here for your storytelling.
• 1:18:39
  SPEAKER_01: And there is just like the the light bulb moments, the pieces of practical wisdom, and the invitation.
• 1:18:49
  SPEAKER_01: I'm really excited.
• 1:18:50
  SPEAKER_01: We'll make sure to get everything in the show notes so people who feel like it resonates can connect with you and absolutely follow on LinkedIn.
• 1:18:59
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm honored to walk this journey with you and so grateful.
• 1:19:05
  SPEAKER_01: My cup is so beyond filled, and I I didn't have the attention span to be writing my notes as I was listening.
• 1:19:13
  SPEAKER_01: So I will also be listening back and taking copious notes because I feel like there's some really good gems for me to add into my own daily routine.
• 1:19:22
  SPEAKER_01: Any last piece of wisdom for the listener?
• 1:19:27
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, there's some there's so much in there's so much that we you know we've already touched on.
• 1:19:36
  SPEAKER_00: But I want people to take away they're not alone, and you are allowed to design a life that honors your truth.
• 1:19:54
  SPEAKER_00: You're allowed to choose yourself and you're allowed to thrive.
• 1:19:59
  SPEAKER_01: Not someday, but now that that is beautiful and potent.
• 1:20:06
  SPEAKER_01: I think that that's a quote right there.
• 1:20:09
  SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you so much.
• 1:20:10
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for being here.
• 1:20:12
  SPEAKER_01: And I really look forward to to hearing how everything is going for you.
• 1:20:18
  SPEAKER_01: So thank you so much.
• 1:20:21
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I can't wait to be back.
• 1:20:22
  SPEAKER_00: I'll be back as many times as you want me.
• 1:20:25
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, perfect.
• 1:20:26
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for this conversation.
• 1:20:28
  SPEAKER_01: You got it.
• 1:20:29
  SPEAKER_01: All right, thank you, Kame.