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Sharri | 5 August · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Why on Sky News This is Sharry.
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Speaker 2: Good Evening. Welcome to the show.
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Speaker 3: Well, the decision to raise the terror threat level is
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Speaker 3: a move the Albanese government and security agencies should have
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Speaker 3: made months ago. Albinizi tried to shift the blame for this,
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Speaker 3: saying it was a global trend while insisting that social
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Speaker 3: cohesion in Australia is something he wants to protect. Yet
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Speaker 3: his own government has done the precise opposite, importing more
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Speaker 3: hatred from the front line of Gaza while fueling violence
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Speaker 3: with their anti Israel. Ratrick Albanezi today spoke about social cohesion.
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Speaker 4: Our words and our actions matter. A social cohesion cannot
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Speaker 4: be taken for granted. It must be nourished and it
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Speaker 4: must be cherished as a national lessid.
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Speaker 3: Well is he nourishing as he says social cohesion when
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Speaker 3: he brought in more than one one hundred people from Gaza,
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Speaker 3: people who may be indoctrinated to hate Westerners and Jews
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Speaker 3: from the moment of birth, people who don't remotely share
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Speaker 3: our values of tolerance, equality and free speech, and people
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Speaker 3: who largely support her mus Hermus, a terror organization that
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Speaker 3: slaughters babies, children and pregnant women, and celebrates this murder.
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Speaker 3: Arbanez he needs to take a hard look at his
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Speaker 3: own overaching strategy, because today he claimed to care about
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Speaker 3: the safety of Australians.
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Speaker 4: My government's first priority is the safety and security of Australians.
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Speaker 3: But if that were the case, if it was genuinely
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Speaker 3: worried about our safety, then how could he possibly bring
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Speaker 3: to our safe country people who could be affiliated with Hermas,
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Speaker 3: who could pose a threat to our national security. Earlier
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Speaker 3: this year I exposed at least one man who came
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Speaker 3: here with a visa granted by the Albanesi government who
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Speaker 3: had liked numerous posts supporting the terror attacks of October seven.
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Speaker 3: And our revelation tonight that the Albanesi government has granted
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Speaker 3: a twenty one year old he must sympathizer a visa
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Speaker 3: calls into question the adequacy of their security checks, and
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Speaker 3: their security screening is far from adequate. As we've spoken
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Speaker 3: about here numerous times, some of these visas were granted
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Speaker 3: in as little as one hour.
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Speaker 5: Some individuals claim that visit a visa forr relatives were
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Speaker 5: approved within one hour. It is possible, I'm sure that
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Speaker 5: how could you possibly do all the necessary security and
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Speaker 5: other checks in just an hour from an applicant. I
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Speaker 5: mean that's lightning speed approval.
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Speaker 6: When we apply that, that vast run to be to
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Speaker 6: consideration of visit diversions. So if you look globally, a
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Speaker 6: very large number of our visit divisess would be done
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Speaker 6: inside of our The assessment is essentially looking at all
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Speaker 6: the information we hold and applying that in a number
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Speaker 6: of ways to shut the.
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Speaker 3: Application in front of our system and shadow Home Affairs
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Speaker 3: Minister James Patterson, who was doing that questioning there. He's
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Speaker 3: going to be on my show tonight to react to
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Speaker 3: the news that our terror threat level is now probable
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Speaker 3: well today, as your boss Mike Burgess said, politically motivated
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Speaker 3: violence is part of the reason for the increased threat.
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Speaker 7: You've heard me say many times that espionage and foreign
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Speaker 7: interference are our principal security concerns. ASIAS Intelligence suggests that
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Speaker 7: is no longer accurate. While the threats to our way
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Speaker 7: of life remain elevated, we are seeing an increase in extremism.
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Speaker 7: More Australians are being radicalized and radicalized more quickly. More
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Speaker 7: Australians are in brace, seeing a more diverse range of
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Speaker 7: extreme ideologies and more Australians are willing to use violence
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Speaker 7: to advance their cause.
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Speaker 3: And Mike Burgess the ASIOBOSS, spoke about the normalization of
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Speaker 3: inflammatory protests.
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Speaker 7: Politically motivated violence encompasses terrorism, but is broader than that.
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Speaker 7: It covers any violent act or any violent threat intended
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Speaker 7: or likely to achieve a political objective. This includes violent
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Speaker 7: protest right or an attack on a politician or our
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Speaker 7: democratic institutions. This trend increased during COVID, gained further momentum
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Speaker 7: after the terroist attacks in Israel, and accelerated during Israel's
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Speaker 7: military response.
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Speaker 3: Well, politically motivated violence escalated on October eighth, as he
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Speaker 3: just said, and that's when they should have raised the
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Speaker 3: terror threat level. But finally, belatedly, the Prime Minister raised
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Speaker 3: it today in an announcement he didn't seem to want
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Speaker 3: to make, while continuing to bring in more Palestinians who
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Speaker 3: may have extreme ideologies from the front line in Gaza. Now,
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Speaker 3: a terror threat level of probable means that ASIO believes
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Speaker 3: there is a greater than fifty percent chance of a
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Speaker 3: terror attack or its planning occurring in the next twelve months,
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Speaker 3: and Burger said Gaza was a significant driver of the
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Speaker 3: terror threat level, and when he was asked by a
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Speaker 3: journalist who were the targets, he indicated it could be
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Speaker 3: either the Jewish Islamic communities.
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Speaker 7: Have a look, Gaza is not the cause of this rising,
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Speaker 7: but actually I acknowledged yes, it's a significant driver. It's
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Speaker 7: driven more emotion and heat into society. In terms of
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Speaker 7: where this is going, it's across the board. Yes, there's
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Speaker 7: plenty of anti Semitism, but there's plenty of Islamophobia at
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Speaker 7: the same time.
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Speaker 3: That is a serious erosion in social cohesion here in
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Speaker 3: Australia on ours. We know this has been happening, but
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Speaker 3: the Prime Minister tried to shift the blame away from
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Speaker 3: his own government for this rise in violence that we're seeing.
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Speaker 3: He just claimed it was part of a global trend.
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Speaker 4: There are many things driving this global trend towards violence.
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Speaker 4: Governments around the world are concerned about youth radicalization, online
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Speaker 4: radicalization and the rise of new mixed ideologies.
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Speaker 3: But we've spoken on many occasions about how Albin Easy
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Speaker 3: and his ministers are in fact fueling anti Israel's sentiment
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Speaker 3: by wrongly indicating that Israel hasn't been acting in accordance
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Speaker 3: with humanitarian law. The criticism of Israel, which is trying
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Speaker 3: to eliminate terrorists, has been over the top from the
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Speaker 3: Albanezy government and this is only inflamed the anti Semitism
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Speaker 3: that we've seen. And on the weekend, Ed Shusick, one
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Speaker 3: of Albanesi's team, wouldn't even say that the hate preachers
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Speaker 3: are spreading anti Semitism, The Sunday Telegraph reported, when pressed
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Speaker 3: about the rise of anti Semitic hate speech in Australia
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Speaker 3: amid the ongoing overseas amid the ongoing war overseas, Husick
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Speaker 3: downplays the influence of radical Islamic preachers. Well, right now,
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Speaker 3: these are the hate preachers that ed Husick is downplaying,
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Speaker 3: the invading Jews.
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Speaker 8: We say, but along the day you will be kicked
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Speaker 8: up on Palistini is coming.
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Speaker 3: Ed Husick could have easily chosen to strongly condemn the
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Speaker 3: hate preachers in that interview because they did celebrate the
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Speaker 3: mass slaughter of October seven at a time when the
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Speaker 3: terror threat level is rising. The Albanese government is in
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Speaker 3: my view, only making the threat to Australians worse by
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Speaker 3: refusing to shut down the extremists and by bringing in
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Speaker 3: straight from the war zone, people who hate everything we
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Speaker 3: stand for, especially when the security checks are far from adequate,
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Speaker 3: to make sure that those granted visas don't support extremist
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Speaker 3: views and won't take part in violence. Now, back in November,
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Speaker 3: the Prime Minister insisted the Palestinians they were flying into
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Speaker 3: Australia would be here temporarily, just visitor visas.
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Speaker 4: Please, are not permanent vises. These are temporary visas. There
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Speaker 4: are the same security checks that are in place. Four people,
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Speaker 4: four Australians that have been in place this regime for
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Speaker 4: a long period of time.
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Speaker 2: Well you heard it there, just temporary, not permanent.
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Speaker 3: But then yesterday Tony Burke, the you Immigration Minister, had
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Speaker 3: a different message. He said that there were no plans
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Speaker 3: to send the Palestinians back to Gaza.
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Speaker 9: Obviously, in all of this, we're in a situation, as
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Speaker 9: is every country in the world where people have fled,
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Speaker 9: where no country in the world is sending people back
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Speaker 9: to Gaza at the moment for obvious reasons. So we
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Speaker 9: have to work through what is the appropriate visa to
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Speaker 9: be able to consider for these individuals. No country in
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Speaker 9: the world would send people back to Gaza at the moment.
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Speaker 9: No country in the world would do that, and so
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Speaker 9: we have to work through what happens as the visas
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Speaker 9: that people are currently on expires.
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Speaker 3: No less than the Prime Minister assured Australians this was
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Speaker 3: just temporary, and now Burke's saying effectively, he's going to
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Speaker 3: look at other visa types. This was never temporary, the
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Speaker 3: Prime Minister light and all of this at a time
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Speaker 3: when the terror threat level is rising and some Australians
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Speaker 3: are feeling extremely unsafe. Security experts, by the way, are
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Speaker 3: also worried about these new visas. Here was Michael Shubridge,
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Speaker 3: the Director of Strategic Analysis Australia, on with my colleague
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Speaker 3: Peter Kredlin earlier.
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Speaker 10: It's an unfortunate fact that polls of Palestinians in Gaza
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Speaker 10: and the West Bank say over fifty percent of them
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Speaker 10: support armed struggle and around forty percent of them are
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Speaker 10: Hammas supporters. Now, anyone who supports armed struggle and or
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Speaker 10: Hamas is not the kind of person we want in
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Speaker 10: our community, stoking more anger and division.
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Speaker 2: That's the problem.
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Speaker 3: If there was a more cautious approach, with more rigorous
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Speaker 3: security checks, there might be more confidence in the Albanezy government.
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Speaker 3: But they're being far from cautious. They're rushing the visa
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Speaker 3: process despite the very real, very tangible risks. What will
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Speaker 3: our easy say if God forbid, there's an attack by
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Speaker 3: someone they've brought in from the war zone, someone who
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Speaker 3: doesn't share our Australian values. Well, they're not going to apologize,
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Speaker 3: just like the government didn't apologize when a Perth grandmother
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Speaker 3: was bashed by a released detainee.
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Speaker 2: They'll say they.
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Speaker 3: Can't comment because it's before the courts, and they'll accuse
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Speaker 3: anyone who criticizes them of politicizing terror. But when social
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Speaker 3: cohesion is at tipping point, when violence is bubbling over,
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Speaker 3: the Albanezy government needs to take a far more vigilant
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Speaker 3: approach to our security, and if they refuse to do so,
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Speaker 3: the intelligence agencies should intervene before this government makes a
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Speaker 3: fatal error and grants a permanent visa to a violent
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Speaker 3: Hamas supporter. Also coming up on the show tonight, spooked
11:56
Speaker 3: investors have triggered a major market crash. Over one hundred
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Speaker 3: sixty billion wiped off the ASX in two days, and
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Speaker 3: now there are rising fears of a US recession, which
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Speaker 3: are seen global panic selling and violent social unrest is
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Speaker 3: sweeping across the United Kingdom, with right wing rioters taking
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Speaker 3: to the streets of immigration and an Ossie Bronze medallist
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Speaker 3: shares her story on how she drew strength from her
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Speaker 3: grandparents who are Holocaust survivors. All of that coming up,
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Speaker 3: but first now let's bring in tonight's panel, Sky News
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Speaker 3: hosts Steve Price and Sky News contributor Joe Hildebrand.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to you both now.
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Speaker 3: Steve Albanezi has been accused by many people the Coalition
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Speaker 3: security experts of fueling social unrest in his government's rhetoric,
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Speaker 3: their continual anti Israel rhetoric. People think it must be true,
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Speaker 3: and then they protest on the streets, so surely there's
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Speaker 3: no reason for surprise when finally the terror threat level
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Speaker 3: has to rise.
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Speaker 11: No, not at all. And look when you see Mike
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Speaker 11: Burgess today say that it's not the people he knows about,
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Speaker 11: but the ones he doesn't know about that worry him
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Speaker 11: the most. But isn't it a delicious irony that the
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Speaker 11: Prime Minister, while standing there next to the head of
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Speaker 11: ASIO talking about how division is being whipped along by
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Speaker 11: the issue or out of the Middle East, the Prime
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Speaker 11: Minister can't even go to his own office in his
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Speaker 11: own electric because it's being blockaded still, as I believe,
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Speaker 11: by pro Palestinian protesters. I mean, surely, if we're going
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Speaker 11: to get serious about this issue, and we've now got
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Speaker 11: this threat level that's been raised by one not surely,
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Speaker 11: if we're going to get serious about it, one of
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Speaker 11: the things we've got to start doing is stop these
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Speaker 11: protests where you've got protesters marching through the streets of
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Speaker 11: our capitals every weekend wearing pro hamas, badgers and kefirs
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Speaker 11: and all sorts of paraphernalia. Let's stop that for a start.
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Speaker 11: Let's get all the people out of the front of
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Speaker 11: those offices, out of the way and get serious about it.
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Speaker 11: But the problem is you've got to the alb An Easy,
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Speaker 11: Tony Berg and Ed Husick, who all holds seats where
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Speaker 11: they want to not upset the voters in those seats
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Speaker 11: who are pro Palestine.
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Speaker 2: But it's more important than politics.
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Speaker 3: And the Prime Minister today in that press conference Joe
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Speaker 3: he indicated that some politicians even need security at the moment.
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Speaker 12: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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Speaker 12: I think the PM has actually been very non inflammatory
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Speaker 12: and pretty reasonable in this I know he hasn't been
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Speaker 12: as outspoken in support of Israel as a lot of
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Speaker 12: people would like him to be, and that's a fair cop.
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Speaker 12: But again, he's called out those protesters who are out
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Speaker 12: front of his office and have stopped him and his
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Speaker 12: workers from being able to use that electrics office.
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Speaker 13: For months now.
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Speaker 12: He's called out people who have used from the River
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Speaker 12: to the Sea chant and claimed that you know, that
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Speaker 12: was all fine and no problem. He said that's inappropriate.
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Speaker 12: He said, that's basically supporting genocide. And he's appointed a
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Speaker 12: commissioner to investigate anti Semitism. That was the first point
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Speaker 12: of order.
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Speaker 14: I know.
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Speaker 12: Again he didn't do it as soon as a lot
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Speaker 12: of people wanted him to, but he did it before
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Speaker 12: he appointed the other commissioner for Social Cohesion or is
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Speaker 12: A or whatever, and that I think cente clear signal.
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Speaker 12: I think the real problem here is that terrorists don't
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Speaker 12: think they're terrorists, right. Terrorists think they are doing the
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Speaker 12: right thing and they are pursuing a higher cause. And
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Speaker 12: I just happened to be listening to a series on
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Speaker 12: the Suffragettes and there's a big debate among historians at
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Speaker 12: the moment whether or not they should be described as terrorists.
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Speaker 12: Obviously not on the same scale as Hamas or Hezbola
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Speaker 12: or anything we've seen here. But the issue is that
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Speaker 12: they use a fig leaf of legitimacy to justify their
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Speaker 12: horrendous ac.
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Speaker 3: Surely the burning of the Bras is nothing like the
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Speaker 3: slaughter of sulfuggested.
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Speaker 12: More than burn bras, they bombed buildings and set fire
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Speaker 12: to buildings, And again there's a very live debate and
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Speaker 12: a lot of people are saying these are self described terrorists.
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Speaker 12: The point is that if you give a if you
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Speaker 12: give legitimacy, if you give support to these grievances and
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Speaker 12: say yes, it's worth you know, vandalizing you know, war memorials,
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Speaker 12: that it's worth vandalizing electrods or smashing windows, that it's
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Speaker 12: worth blockading people and keeping them out of their place
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Speaker 12: of work for months and months and months on end,
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Speaker 12: you are basically giving comfort to terrorists. You're giving comfort
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Speaker 12: to the people say well that's okay the window. Is
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Speaker 12: it okay for me to bash a cop? And if
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Speaker 12: it's okay for me to bash.
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Speaker 11: That's exactly Joe, that's exactly what the Prime Minister hasn't done.
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Speaker 12: That out people are getting left have done it.
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Speaker 3: Barely called it happen word law enforcement. Steve Christ go ahead.
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Speaker 11: No, of course he hasn't. And Joe talks about how
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Speaker 11: the Prime Minister's spoken a lot of words, that's all
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Speaker 11: he has done. Where is the action to stop this
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Speaker 11: thing happening, these things happening on the streets. Joe, I mean,
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Speaker 11: it's all good in will to say, well, he said
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Speaker 11: the right thing. He's done nothing nothing, nothing either.
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Speaker 12: A legal gray area if you just you know, sending
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Speaker 12: in the cops to just drag people off public football.
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Speaker 3: They were happy during the COVID pandemic hate there are
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Speaker 3: most people do think that was outrageous. But there are
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Speaker 3: race hate laws and they haven't been used and they
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Speaker 3: should be used.
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Speaker 2: Let's move on now because in.
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Speaker 3: Another area where the Alberanzi government is looking weak, another
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Speaker 3: national security area, we learn today in the Australian that
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Speaker 3: in the past thirteen months, sixty six criminals escaped being
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Speaker 3: deported thanks to Direction ninety nine, and among the list
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Speaker 3: of dangerous offenders were twelve people convicted of assault, seven
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Speaker 3: of drug offenses, seven with domestic violence offenses, under five
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Speaker 3: people with child sex offenses and less than five rape
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Speaker 3: and sexual offenders. So Steve, you know, obviously Direction ninety
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Speaker 3: nine isn't in effect anymore, but shouldn't the new Immigration
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Speaker 3: Minister Tony Burke review these decisions to allow these people
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Speaker 3: to stay in our country because it does not make
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Speaker 3: Australia safe.
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Speaker 11: Well, mister Burke replaced Andrew Giles, so we would have
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Speaker 11: thought that when you put a new minister in you
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Speaker 11: get a different way of doing things. So Tony Burke's
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Speaker 11: got a very clear challenge here. It's pretty simple as
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Speaker 11: sixty six people who, when you read what they've been doing,
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Speaker 11: should not be in the country. So mister Burke needs
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Speaker 11: to show that he's the tough guy, not someone who's
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Speaker 11: just been put in there to calm down the backbench
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Speaker 11: of the Labor Party. So come on, Tony, get these
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Speaker 11: sixty six and get him out of the country.
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Speaker 2: I think most people would agree with you.
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Speaker 12: I'm pretty sure you will.
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Speaker 3: Let's have a look at the Macarati Commission. The new
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Speaker 3: Minister for Indigenous Australia is now in damage control after
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Speaker 3: Albanezy seemingly backed away from a Macarati commission over the weekend.
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Speaker 3: Here he was.
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Speaker 4: What we're proposed is Macaradam just being the idea of
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Speaker 4: coming together, so it's talking to we're.
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Speaker 3: Engaging well, Malandari McCarthy is now trying to convince the
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Speaker 3: public that Labor isn't going to and another election from
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Speaker 3: as here she was.
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Speaker 15: I can certainly say, as a new Minister for Indigenous
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Speaker 15: Australians that that commitment we made, and the Prime Minister
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Speaker 15: repeated that in his speech at the forum in Gama,
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Speaker 15: is one that I will certainly pursue.
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Speaker 3: Joe, do you think the Prime Minister's just lost interest
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Speaker 3: in this area after the voicemail?
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Speaker 6: No?
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Speaker 12: In fact, I think what he's done is realize that
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Speaker 12: these kind of sort of bold, kind of slightly woolly,
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Speaker 12: because again we've seen people all taking different meanings from
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Speaker 12: what the Prime Minister actually did or didn't say, and
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Speaker 12: deciding to project their own versions of it onto it.
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Speaker 12: He's realized that this stuff is just not going to
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Speaker 12: get anywhere. That it has to be practical, it has
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Speaker 12: to be grassroots, it has to be economic support. That's
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Speaker 12: why what he's done is massive packages in education and
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Speaker 12: housing in the NT that were announced recently and again
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Speaker 12: his announcement in Gaza Gaza, Gama that this is going
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Speaker 12: to require that The biggest thing you can do to
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Speaker 12: help indigenous communities is economic development. Big projects up, get
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Speaker 12: them jobs. Like everybody else wants jobs, why shouldn't they
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Speaker 12: as well, Why shouldn't they get them and get them
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Speaker 12: into society, contributing economically and benefiting economically. And that's what
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Speaker 12: he's going.
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Speaker 2: To do, Steve.
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Speaker 11: I love you like a brother, Joe. But on election
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Speaker 11: night the Prime Minister stood up there and said, I
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Speaker 11: will introduce I support the Uluru Statement from the heart,
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Speaker 11: and I will implement it in full. There was no
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Speaker 11: gray area, he said in full. So what he's done
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Speaker 11: now is he's lost the voice referendum and he's just
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Speaker 11: worked out this is all too hard, and so what
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Speaker 11: he's doing is sitting back and let the state governments
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Speaker 11: do the heavy lifting. Victoria's already well down a road
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Speaker 11: on treaty and Macarata, all the other state governments, the
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Speaker 11: labor state governments are going to follow suit. So Albo
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Speaker 11: as Shari's just quite rightly pointed out, thought, oh well,
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Speaker 11: I've got too much other stuff to do. I'll leave
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Speaker 11: it up to someone else.
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Speaker 3: It reminds me of but it reminds me of Kevin
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Speaker 3: right when he couldn't get a global deal on climate change,
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Speaker 3: and he just threw it away, lost interest in it,
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Speaker 3: didn't want to And you get with the.
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Speaker 12: PM knows that. I can absolutely assure the PM certainly
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Speaker 12: does not believe that he has broken a promise. He
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Speaker 12: does not believe he committed specifically to those things. And
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Speaker 12: I know very well that the speech on election night
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Speaker 12: that Steve's talking about, it's still ringing in my ears.
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Speaker 3: He believes he became in such a shock to everybody.
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Speaker 12: It wasn't spot to everybody, but clearly he has been
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Speaker 12: He has had his fingers burned by the voice. He
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Speaker 12: realized it's practical action that's going to make difference. But
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Speaker 12: also talking about all this kind of symbolic or historical
21:31
Speaker 12: stuff in the middle of a cost of living crisis
21:34
Speaker 12: is political suicide. And the PM is no fool. He
21:36
Speaker 12: knows that all he needs to focus on right now
21:39
Speaker 12: is cost of living, cost of living, and then if
21:41
Speaker 12: there's time cost of living.
21:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Joe hild Around Steve Price. Great to
21:45
Speaker 3: see you both. Thanks guys, see you next Monday. Now
21:48
Speaker 3: we've been talking about the major story today that Australia's
21:52
Speaker 3: terror threat level is now it probable.
21:54
Speaker 2: So let's for more analysis.
21:56
Speaker 3: Let's bring in Shadow Home Affairs Minister James Patterson.
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Speaker 2: James, great to see you. Look, do you agree that
22:02
Speaker 2: this should have happened months ago?
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Speaker 16: Now?
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Speaker 5: Show the opposition strongly supports ASIO and the Director General
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Speaker 5: Mike Burgess, and I'm sure they went through a very
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Speaker 5: careful and deliberate process, going through all their intelligence feeds
22:16
Speaker 5: and their structured analytical process to reach this conclusion. But
22:20
Speaker 5: I also think it's been self evident in our community
22:23
Speaker 5: for months now, at least since the seventh October, that
22:25
Speaker 5: we have faced increased level of the threat of terrorism.
22:28
Speaker 5: I mean, all you have to do is notice that
22:30
Speaker 5: there've been half a dozen teenagers in Western Sydney charged
22:34
Speaker 5: with offenses that police allege are motivated by terrorism, and
22:37
Speaker 5: courts will ultimately decide the validity of those charges. But
22:40
Speaker 5: that's a pretty strong data point that suggests we're living
22:43
Speaker 5: in an elevated threat environment. But you can also look
22:46
Speaker 5: at the massive increases in anti Semitism, or frankly, the
22:50
Speaker 5: people who've been publicly displaying the symbols of terrorist organizations
22:54
Speaker 5: on the streets of Melbourne and Sydney and other cities.
22:57
Speaker 5: Proudly in contravention of federal Hate City Will legislation.
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Speaker 2: And yet the laws are just not being used.
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Speaker 3: The Prime Minister spoke today about social cohesion and how
23:07
Speaker 3: we need to nourish it his words, would you say
23:10
Speaker 3: he's nourishing social cohesion by bringing into Australia people from
23:14
Speaker 3: a war zone who've been indoctrinated to hate Westerners without
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Speaker 3: adequate security checks.
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Speaker 5: I think the Prime Minister has failed to uphold social
23:25
Speaker 5: cohesion for the last nine months. At every opportunity. He's
23:27
Speaker 5: failed to adequately condemn the instances of anti Semitism that
23:31
Speaker 5: we've seen in our community. He's failed to ensure that
23:33
Speaker 5: the law is enforced to stop people doing it, and
23:36
Speaker 5: he's playing with fire with issues like this when he
23:39
Speaker 5: brings people into our country from an area which is
23:43
Speaker 5: a war zone, which is controlled by a terrorist organization
23:45
Speaker 5: without adequate vetting or checks. We don't understand how it
23:49
Speaker 5: is possible in twenty four hours on average, but in
23:52
Speaker 5: some instans, just one hour to do an identity check,
23:55
Speaker 5: let alone a security check on someone and to now
23:57
Speaker 5: contemplate extending their stay in Australia on a more permanent
24:01
Speaker 5: basis is in total contravention to the original visas they're granted,
24:05
Speaker 5: which are temporary visitor visas, and so really it is
24:07
Speaker 5: up to the new Immigration Minister, Tony Burke to demonstrate
24:10
Speaker 5: why this will not in any way threaten Australia's safety,
24:14
Speaker 5: security or social cohesion.
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Speaker 3: As you just said there, Tony Burke just yesterday in
24:19
Speaker 3: an interview with Andrew Colonel said he was looking at
24:21
Speaker 3: other visa types. This is despite the fact that the
24:24
Speaker 3: Prime Minister and the Foreign Minister said these were just
24:27
Speaker 3: going to be visitor visas. Do you think there's reason
24:30
Speaker 3: for Tony Burke to be extremely cautious or are you
24:33
Speaker 3: concerned that he's acting out of purely political reasons that
24:38
Speaker 3: might benefit him in his own electric.
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Speaker 5: Well, based on Tony Burke's performance last time he was
24:45
Speaker 5: Immigration Minister in the Radguillard era, it's hard to have
24:48
Speaker 5: any confidence in the way in which you will conduct
24:50
Speaker 5: himself in this portfolio, even if he didn't have very
24:53
Speaker 5: severe local political pressures, which is clearly responding to the
24:57
Speaker 5: Labor Party lives in fear that will what will happen
24:59
Speaker 5: to them at the next election is what happened to
25:02
Speaker 5: their UK Labor Party counterparts, which despite a landslide election
25:06
Speaker 5: victory for Keir Starmer saw four of their seats fall,
25:09
Speaker 5: including two front benches to pro Gaza independence backed by
25:14
Speaker 5: independent Muslim community groups. There are groups like that organizing
25:18
Speaker 5: in Australia. The Government's under huge pressure on that front.
25:21
Speaker 5: I think it explains a lot of their weakness in
25:22
Speaker 5: confronting anti Semitism since the election, and I worry that
25:26
Speaker 5: that is one of the main reasons why Tony Burke
25:28
Speaker 5: was appointed to this portfolio. It's certainly not because he's
25:31
Speaker 5: got a great record in it, given that in just
25:33
Speaker 5: eighty days as minister he allowed eighty three votes to arrive,
25:36
Speaker 5: six hundred and thirty four people and a record of
25:40
Speaker 5: nine hundred and ninety two children in detention, that's nothing
25:43
Speaker 5: to be proud of.
25:44
Speaker 3: James Patterson, you were off last week, but while you
25:47
Speaker 3: were off, both the Prime Minister and Tony Burke attacked
25:51
Speaker 3: you personally when it came to this issue of Board
25:54
Speaker 3: of Security. They were quite personal remarks. What did you
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Speaker 3: make of them?
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Speaker 5: That don't worry to me too much, Shari. I'm not
26:03
Speaker 5: surprised that I'm a target for the government, having just
26:06
Speaker 5: helped remove their first time Affairs minister and their first
26:09
Speaker 5: immigration minister. I'd be pretty cranky too, and I'd be
26:12
Speaker 5: pretty sensitive about my record as Tony burkis if it
26:15
Speaker 5: was such a bad one. He's attacked me for not
26:17
Speaker 5: having been a minister. But I would rather have not
26:19
Speaker 5: been a minister than been a minister with such a
26:21
Speaker 5: shabby record like he has.
26:23
Speaker 3: Just before you go, the former ADF Chief Mark Binskin's
26:26
Speaker 3: report into the death of Australian aid workers by Israel
26:32
Speaker 3: reinforced the findings of Israel's own investigation. It found that
26:36
Speaker 3: the armed locally contracted security on the World Kitchen Convoy
26:39
Speaker 3: gave the appearance of the presence of hamas. It actually
26:44
Speaker 3: said that the Australian Defense FORSS could not have imposed
26:47
Speaker 3: equivalent reprimands as quickly as the IDF was able to. Now,
26:51
Speaker 3: the Israeli government hasn't criticized the report itself, but they
26:55
Speaker 3: have criticized the Australian government statement about the report, Israel
27:00
Speaker 3: says it included misrepresentations and emitted crucial details. James, what's
27:05
Speaker 3: your view on how this has been handled by the
27:07
Speaker 3: Albanesi government.
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Speaker 5: Well, Zomi Frankom's death is a tragedy. Everyone, including the
27:14
Speaker 5: IDF for Greece, that it should not have happened, and
27:16
Speaker 5: they took steps very swiftly to investigate it and to
27:19
Speaker 5: take action to have punishment for the people involved in
27:23
Speaker 5: violating the IDF's processes and procedures which led to these deaths.
27:26
Speaker 5: Now to appoint our own person to independently investigate it
27:29
Speaker 5: and to angrily publicly demand that they have unimpeded access
27:33
Speaker 5: would have to be done by an Australian Prime minister
27:35
Speaker 5: with very good grounds, and it turns out in Mark
27:38
Speaker 5: Binskin's report that those grounds weren't there. He has essentially
27:41
Speaker 5: upheld the IDF's version of what happened. He had no
27:44
Speaker 5: issues with access, And yet the Prime Minister and the
27:47
Speaker 5: Foreign Minister have treated an ally and a friend Israel
27:50
Speaker 5: very shabbily throughout this process. I think where all left
27:53
Speaker 5: to draw just only one conclusion from that, which is
27:56
Speaker 5: that the Albanesi government's approach to these issues continues to
27:59
Speaker 5: be driven by mystic politics. That's exactly why we should
28:02
Speaker 5: be worried about someone like Tony Beck being a Home
28:04
Speaker 5: Affairs and Immigration minister, why we should be concerned about
28:07
Speaker 5: national security on this government's watch because they put domestic
28:09
Speaker 5: politics ahead of the national interest.
28:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, indeed, right, James Patterson, really appreciate your thoughts tonight.
28:17
Speaker 3: Now coming up after the break, the latest news from overseas,
28:20
Speaker 3: violent rioters running a mark in the UK. It is
28:23
Speaker 3: utter chaos. So why is it happening? We're going to
28:27
Speaker 3: discuss this next Welcome back Well. Riots rocked northern England
28:34
Speaker 3: over the weekend, with right wing anti immigration protesters vandalizing
28:39
Speaker 3: and setting fire to two hotels. This violent social unrest
28:44
Speaker 3: follows the tragic stabbing of three young girls last week.
28:48
Speaker 3: New Prime Minister Keir Starmer has condemned the violence.
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Speaker 17: I utterly condemn the far right thuggery we've seen this weekend.
28:59
Speaker 17: Be it no doubt those that have participated in this
29:03
Speaker 17: violence will face the full force of the law. I
29:07
Speaker 17: guarantee you will regret taking part in this disorder, whether
29:12
Speaker 17: directly or those whipping up this action. Online.
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Speaker 3: Sky News contributor Koshergada joins me. Now, Kosher, we didn't
29:21
Speaker 3: hear comments like that when it came to violent anti
29:24
Speaker 3: Israel protests. And also these young girls who were tragically killed,
29:29
Speaker 3: they're now virtually being forgotten.
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Speaker 18: Indeed, Charion. This is one of the first tests of
29:37
Speaker 18: the new Prime minister, if you will, on a global stage,
29:40
Speaker 18: and many people have been criticizing what was missing from
29:42
Speaker 18: the speech along the lines of what you just outlined. Look,
29:45
Speaker 18: I think you know what triggered the extreme chaos, as
29:48
Speaker 18: you said in the UK, is that heinous, horrific event
29:52
Speaker 18: that took place in Southport and that lit the fuse.
29:55
Speaker 18: But I think what this is setting up is the
29:57
Speaker 18: question of what has set the fuse in the UK
30:00
Speaker 18: and much of the western world, and you allude to
30:02
Speaker 18: that at the top. Where people are pointing to a
30:05
Speaker 18: clear inference is a reaction of the public to mass immigration,
30:08
Speaker 18: where it really is a grand experiment that has happened
30:12
Speaker 18: in modern history and just a handful of countries it's
30:14
Speaker 18: never happened before. One school of thought has been that's
30:17
Speaker 18: great and it riches these countries and diversities are strength.
30:20
Speaker 18: Another school of thought is that it really sets these
30:22
Speaker 18: places up for a short fuze like this just because
30:25
Speaker 18: it's human nature. You've got different people with different backgrounds
30:28
Speaker 18: and culture and values living together, and then when something
30:30
Speaker 18: like this happens, in some ways it's not surprising, even
30:33
Speaker 18: though as horrific as these imagious are, it's not surprising
30:36
Speaker 18: to see that fuze being lit. That's what's happening here.
30:39
Speaker 18: And I think the Prime Minister's speech and other people
30:42
Speaker 18: who rush to just call that one side in this
30:44
Speaker 18: context so far right do so at their peril because,
30:47
Speaker 18: as you say, they're not mentioning what we see all
30:49
Speaker 18: the time with other protesters, whether it's Palestinians or BLM
30:52
Speaker 18: rioters and other people that are doing that too. It's
30:53
Speaker 18: not just one group of people that's with this unease
30:56
Speaker 18: right now in the in the West and particularly in
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Speaker 18: the UK.
30:59
Speaker 3: We're going to keep covering this riot the UK Rights
31:02
Speaker 3: this week. We're going to have Brendan O'Neil on the
31:04
Speaker 3: show as well.
31:06
Speaker 2: Now, Kosher, let's turn to the US.
31:08
Speaker 3: Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has told what has surely
31:12
Speaker 3: got to be a Joe have a look top of
31:15
Speaker 3: his game.
31:16
Speaker 19: Such a consequential president of the United States, a Mount
31:20
Speaker 19: Rushmore kind of president of the United States.
31:23
Speaker 3: Want to know what comes next?
31:25
Speaker 2: That he belongs up there on Mount Rushmore. Lincoln and
31:30
Speaker 2: Joe Biden.
31:31
Speaker 19: But you got Teddy Roosevelt up there, and he's wonderful.
31:34
Speaker 19: I don't say take him down, but you can add Biden.
31:38
Speaker 3: I mean, Nancy Pelosi helped bring Joe Biden down. Now
31:42
Speaker 3: she says he was at the top of his game.
31:44
Speaker 3: Should be chipped into rock alongside George Washington, Thomas Jefferson,
31:48
Speaker 3: Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt to Roosevelt when he's never been
31:53
Speaker 3: more confused kosher. Maybe she's lost her marvels as well.
31:59
Speaker 18: You know, I would say that Nancy Pelosi is a
32:02
Speaker 18: master politician and a master tactician, and if she's saying
32:05
Speaker 18: anything even now, she has purpose behind it. I think
32:08
Speaker 18: what we're seeing is sort of the sandwich where she
32:11
Speaker 18: was nice about him and was backing him in the beginning.
32:14
Speaker 18: After that disastrous debate, she was widely reported as being
32:17
Speaker 18: one of the key players in the mutiny that the
32:19
Speaker 18: Democrats ran against their own nominee and the switcheroo that
32:22
Speaker 18: they pulled off. And now she's closing the sandwich with
32:25
Speaker 18: some nice words and very effusive ephemistic words out there
32:28
Speaker 18: about him. I don't think it'll ever happen, but she
32:31
Speaker 18: I think it's meant to say, you know, what, we
32:33
Speaker 18: did what we had to do. We replaced him, that
32:35
Speaker 18: the polls are tightening as a result of that, and
32:37
Speaker 18: now we can give him something really nice, whether it's
32:39
Speaker 18: Mount Rushmore or something something less. That's all part of
32:42
Speaker 18: I think the strategy.
32:43
Speaker 3: I mean, while Kamala Harris and Donald Trump, according to
32:46
Speaker 3: reports neck and neck, this is the lightest CBS you've
32:50
Speaker 3: got poll, the vice president is now according to the poll,
32:55
Speaker 3: she's look it's one pole, but she's apparently got a
32:57
Speaker 3: one point laid nationally. This is rasing the five point
33:01
Speaker 3: laid that Trump had over Biden.
33:04
Speaker 2: Look, the polls got.
33:05
Speaker 3: It wrong before, plenty of times before, but it does
33:08
Speaker 3: appear that Kamala Harris is catching up and making ground
33:12
Speaker 3: on Donald Trump. And we're only a few months out
33:14
Speaker 3: now from the election. I think so.
33:18
Speaker 18: As you mentioned, polls have not covered themselves in glory
33:20
Speaker 18: in recent years around the world. But I think what
33:24
Speaker 18: we are seeing is America is a very divided country.
33:27
Speaker 18: The last several elections have been won and lost on
33:29
Speaker 18: razor thin margins, and we're seeing a restoration back to
33:33
Speaker 18: that dynamic. And basically what was happening when Biden was
33:36
Speaker 18: in the ticket after that debate is there was a
33:38
Speaker 18: big chunk of Democrats that just couldn't do it because
33:40
Speaker 18: it was so disastrous as cognitive decline. Those people are
33:43
Speaker 18: coming back home, and that's sort of evening out the
33:46
Speaker 18: playing field between the.
33:47
Speaker 3: Two of them.
33:48
Speaker 18: Regardless of the flaws or the peculiarities of the particular
33:51
Speaker 18: candidacy and Kamla, this is going to continue to be
33:54
Speaker 18: a razor razor thin election. And it's really interesting because
33:57
Speaker 18: it's never happened in modern times where they've done this
34:00
Speaker 18: and basically installed somebody who's never had a single vote
34:03
Speaker 18: from the Democrat voters and the Democrat base. And yet
34:06
Speaker 18: here she is very very close to possibly taking the
34:09
Speaker 18: top job.
34:10
Speaker 3: And he's untested in debates and still appears to be
34:12
Speaker 3: untested in media interviews. But you'd have to think if
34:16
Speaker 3: Donald Trump doesn't win in November, I mean, this would
34:18
Speaker 3: have to be the last time he would run, because
34:21
Speaker 3: this is his third time standing for president. I mean,
34:25
Speaker 3: he has enormous support in the Republican Party, but surely
34:29
Speaker 3: if he loses two elections in a row, he couldn't
34:31
Speaker 3: go again. And his age as well.
34:36
Speaker 18: Yeah, it would appear. So I mean with Trump, you
34:38
Speaker 18: never know, but yes, he's almost eighty years old at
34:41
Speaker 18: that point. He would be eighty four. I think that's
34:44
Speaker 18: a fair conclusion, and many would say his picking of
34:46
Speaker 18: jd Vance maybe is sort of a nod to that
34:49
Speaker 18: that whether he wins or loses, he sort of wanted
34:52
Speaker 18: to pave the way for somebody that can carry the
34:54
Speaker 18: mantle of trump Ism, populism and all the policies that
34:58
Speaker 18: he's stood for in somebody who's quite young and has
35:00
Speaker 18: a long future ahead of him in Republican politics.
35:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, only thirty nine years old. I think turns
35:05
Speaker 3: forty perhaps this month, Jodi Vouts. All right, Koschhagada, thank
35:09
Speaker 3: you very much for your time. Now coming up a
35:12
Speaker 3: blood bath on the Australian Stock Exchange, with the market
35:15
Speaker 3: experiencing its worst two day session in two years. We'll
35:19
Speaker 3: also look at tomorrow's rate decision and what it means
35:22
Speaker 3: for the Prime Minister's election timing. Stay tuned well, Still
35:29
Speaker 3: lots more to get through tonight. Let's jump into it
35:32
Speaker 3: with my political panel, former Scott Morrison Press secretary Andrew
35:35
Speaker 3: Carswell and former Gillard government advisor Darren Bynett. Great to
35:40
Speaker 3: see you both. Look, let's start with the fears of
35:43
Speaker 3: a US recession and this has sparked a massive sell
35:46
Speaker 3: of globally, with the Australian share market as well. Many
35:50
Speaker 3: reasons for this, but the Australian share market plunging more
35:52
Speaker 3: than three percent, extending its Friday loss to mark the
35:56
Speaker 3: worst two day performance in years.
36:00
Speaker 2: Investors are rattled.
36:01
Speaker 3: It's what wiped more than one hundred billion dollars off
36:03
Speaker 3: the ASX. This is leading to the ASEX losing two
36:07
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty one points, or two point nine percent
36:10
Speaker 3: just after midday today, Drew, can you break us through
36:13
Speaker 3: some of the reasons that market analysts are saying have
36:17
Speaker 3: caused this and where do you think this is now headed?
36:22
Speaker 16: Certainly well, I think this is a there's a growing
36:25
Speaker 16: fear now that the US economy will plunge into recession,
36:29
Speaker 16: the world's largest economy. And there is the growing realization
36:33
Speaker 16: too that the difficult challenge of trying to tame high
36:38
Speaker 16: inflation is going to result in a hard landing in
36:41
Speaker 16: the economy and not a soft landing as predicted. Even
36:45
Speaker 16: as late as last week, economists were suggesting that the
36:48
Speaker 16: US had managed to thread the needle on this inflation equation,
36:52
Speaker 16: that that managed to bring down inflation without doing any
36:55
Speaker 16: damage to the economy. But it's quickly realizing that that
36:59
Speaker 16: is not the case. And the latest startup we've seen
37:01
Speaker 16: is unemployment picking up dramatically higher in the US. The
37:05
Speaker 16: manufacturing sector is under significant pressure so and it is
37:10
Speaker 16: in fact contracting in the last quarter. So what we're
37:14
Speaker 16: seeing is markets pricing in that risk. They're also pricing
37:16
Speaker 16: in the risk of a potential bust in what in
37:21
Speaker 16: the in the in the bubble that is currently around
37:24
Speaker 16: AI tech stocks, there's an increasing understanding that AI tech
37:29
Speaker 16: stocks are way over valued and they will need some
37:32
Speaker 16: kind of retraction there as some kind of fallback from
37:36
Speaker 16: the positions that they are currently in. So you've got
37:38
Speaker 16: those two dual things competing against each other, and the
37:42
Speaker 16: market is trying to realize what is going to be
37:45
Speaker 16: the economy once inflation comes down to the level it
37:47
Speaker 16: needs to be, will the economy be damaged?
37:50
Speaker 3: I think this has the risk of getting even worse.
37:54
Speaker 3: You know, it's kind of something that no one really predicted.
37:57
Speaker 3: And even about a week and a half ago when
38:00
Speaker 3: we started to see wall streets suffer, you know, people
38:03
Speaker 3: said it's just kind of a correction.
38:07
Speaker 2: It's not going to be that bad.
38:09
Speaker 3: Now it is looking like there could be a recession.
38:12
Speaker 3: There's panic selling. Australia is reacting and it is looking
38:17
Speaker 3: kind of like it could have.
38:19
Speaker 13: Certainly futures markets degenerate, and that's always an indication that
38:22
Speaker 13: there is nervousness among investors. And what Andrew says is
38:26
Speaker 13: absolutely correct. There's a risk of the US falling into recession.
38:30
Speaker 13: But equally, there have been some record highs in the
38:33
Speaker 13: AX and other sort of indicators over recent times. Because
38:38
Speaker 13: of that, we're not at the stage of absolute panic selling.
38:41
Speaker 13: But the big thing for Australia is interest rates, and
38:45
Speaker 13: I think a lot of the pricing in the market
38:47
Speaker 13: is trying to guess who's going to cut their rates first,
38:50
Speaker 13: if at all, And there's a speculation in Japan, in
38:54
Speaker 13: the US, in Australia, and a lot of the international
38:57
Speaker 13: money washing through those markets. They're just trying to make
39:00
Speaker 13: themselves a bit of cash on who's going to cut
39:03
Speaker 13: rates and try and make themselves some money, And so
39:05
Speaker 13: you've got to always look at that. That's the overriding
39:10
Speaker 13: factor here, is that volatility in interest rates and all
39:14
Speaker 13: of those factors combine lead to nervousness.
39:16
Speaker 3: Yes, well, internationally, you know countries are, as you say,
39:20
Speaker 3: looking at cutting rates. But Andrew and Australia, we're seeing
39:23
Speaker 3: a couple of economists say that rates aren't going to
39:26
Speaker 3: fall until the first quarter of next year at the
39:29
Speaker 3: earliest December this year.
39:32
Speaker 2: We're expecting the IRBA.
39:33
Speaker 3: To hold rates steady at four point three five percent
39:36
Speaker 3: tomorrow after their two day board meeting.
39:38
Speaker 2: But Australia does have a different environment.
39:41
Speaker 3: I mean we're still at the question of are the
39:43
Speaker 3: rate's going to remain steady or rise, whereas other countries
39:47
Speaker 3: are starting to think about cutting them.
39:51
Speaker 16: Yeah, that's right, Shara. There's no question that the RBA
39:55
Speaker 16: will be sitting on their hands tomorrow and looking at
39:58
Speaker 16: what's going on in global markets as well sitting in
40:00
Speaker 16: the back of their minds. But if there is a
40:02
Speaker 16: contemplation either way in terms of movement, that contemplation is
40:06
Speaker 16: still directed towards an increase rather than a decrease. We're
40:09
Speaker 16: in a different set of circumstances to the US. The
40:13
Speaker 16: US could make a move downward on interest rates as
40:18
Speaker 16: early as September, particularly if this market volatility continues, But
40:23
Speaker 16: we don't have that argument here that there is based
40:26
Speaker 16: on the current inflation data. Based on our strong employment figures,
40:31
Speaker 16: there is no reason to be considering a cut in
40:34
Speaker 16: interest rates. It all depends on where where employment goes
40:39
Speaker 16: in this country, and it all depends on whether they
40:41
Speaker 16: can bring inflation back within that band before Christmas, as
40:44
Speaker 16: has been suggested in the budget.
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Speaker 2: How does this impact on politics, Darren?
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Speaker 3: If we're not going to be looking at a rate
40:51
Speaker 3: cut until February next year, then there's no way. Surely
40:55
Speaker 3: the Prime Minister is going to head to the polls
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Speaker 3: this year.
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Speaker 13: No way at all, and he's going to try and
40:59
Speaker 13: wait for rate cut. And if he waits for a
41:02
Speaker 13: rate cut, hopefully there'll be a second rate cut. So
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Speaker 13: I think that's absolutely true. The chances of an election
41:08
Speaker 13: this year are fairly minimal. Until two weeks ago there
41:11
Speaker 13: was a risk, a substantial risk that there might be
41:14
Speaker 13: one more rise before there'd be a fall. And if
41:17
Speaker 13: that was still a risk, it's less than it was
41:19
Speaker 13: of two or three weeks ago. The last round of
41:22
Speaker 13: data was within the band for the RBA to consider.
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Speaker 13: So I think if the next movement is up, its
41:29
Speaker 13: enormous political trouble. But if the next movement is down,
41:33
Speaker 13: it'll be something the government waits for and will take
41:35
Speaker 13: that very much into account about when the election will
41:38
Speaker 13: be called.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the impatient data last week was in line with
41:41
Speaker 3: the RBA's expectations, but it doesn't mean we're not going
41:43
Speaker 3: to see an increase.
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Speaker 13: It doesn't mean the cost of living pressures of dished.
41:47
Speaker 13: Completely agree with that, that people are doing it tough
41:50
Speaker 13: and they will vote according to how they feel at
41:52
Speaker 13: that time exactly now.
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Speaker 3: Former Australian boxer Anthony Mundine front at court back in
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Speaker 3: June and he pled not guilty to a charge of
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Speaker 3: not complying with a COVID direction in twenty twenty one,
42:05
Speaker 3: in the height of the pandemic, he allegedly failed to
42:08
Speaker 3: scan a QR code to check into a bunning stop.
42:12
Speaker 3: He was also accused of not wearing a face mask.
42:14
Speaker 3: He said he didn't have to wear one. Now, this
42:17
Speaker 3: is a fascinating story because thousands of COVID penalties have
42:20
Speaker 3: been counseled since the new South Wales Supreme Court decision
42:24
Speaker 3: was handed down last year. But Mundine's barrister claims that
42:28
Speaker 3: because he commenced legal action two months before the ruling,
42:33
Speaker 3: the matter was not picked up by the fine administrator.
42:36
Speaker 3: Now his due back in court tomorrow, and I spoke
42:39
Speaker 3: with him a little earlier this afternoon.
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Speaker 1: Here he was, I'm do to got called tomorrow to
42:46
Speaker 1: face his offense, and good willing it'll be have you
42:50
Speaker 1: all dealt with tomorrow. You know, they can have some
42:53
Speaker 1: common sense and you know, treatd for what it is,
42:58
Speaker 1: and that's pretty for what it is, and I get
43:02
Speaker 1: the right decision and can get off, you know what
43:04
Speaker 1: I mean. So a lot of people other people have
43:06
Speaker 1: got off and they've got their fines back and things
43:09
Speaker 1: like that. You know, I'm hoping that justice does prevail tomorrow.
43:15
Speaker 1: Pretty unbelievable that I'm still going through it and you
43:17
Speaker 1: being going through it, and you know, good willing, it'll
43:20
Speaker 1: be squashed tomorrow, and I'm hoping for a good outcome.
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Speaker 3: Andrew Carswell, I mean, this is unbelievable that people are
43:29
Speaker 3: still being prosecuted for not scanning a QR code when
43:33
Speaker 3: the whole QR system didn't work in the.
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Speaker 16: End, I had conveniently forgot about this whole system of
43:40
Speaker 16: scanning in QR code. So it's a certainly a throwback,
43:44
Speaker 16: isn't it. Look I think sense will prevail here. I'm
43:49
Speaker 16: glad Anthony is making a stand on this issue. Some
43:52
Speaker 16: of the some of the rules that the state government's
43:54
Speaker 16: introduced in and around COVID. We're far above beyond the
43:59
Speaker 16: sense and they went well above what they should have done,
44:03
Speaker 16: so I think sense will prevail here. Is just one
44:05
Speaker 16: of those quirks of the legal system that we're hopefully
44:07
Speaker 16: just knocked on the head.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, we'll see how it goes tomorrow. Bring
44:10
Speaker 3: you an update tomorrow night. Andrew Carswell, Darren Barnett, great
44:12
Speaker 3: to see you both. Now still to come in Australian
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Speaker 3: Olympian shares how her family's history surviving the Holocaust helped
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Speaker 3: her win her incredible story Up next, welcome back.
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Speaker 10: Well.
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Speaker 3: Before we wrap up the show, I just want to
44:31
Speaker 3: have a look at some of their inspiring moments of
44:33
Speaker 3: human spirit that we've seen at the Olympics. Now, there
44:37
Speaker 3: has been a lot of woke nonsense surrounding the Games,
44:40
Speaker 3: but there are plenty of other heartwarming stories from the
44:43
Speaker 3: incredible athletes who've performed. There's Simone Biles, who came back
44:48
Speaker 3: from mental health struggles to win three gold medals, cementing
44:53
Speaker 3: her place in history as one of the world's best gymnasts.
44:58
Speaker 3: At first, there was disappointment when our Golden Girl Jess
45:01
Speaker 3: Fox was knocked out of the kayak cross event, before
45:05
Speaker 3: she realized that her younger sister know Me not only
45:09
Speaker 3: made it through but came first. And keep in mind,
45:13
Speaker 3: Jess Fox has had a fantastic run of her own.
45:17
Speaker 3: She won two gold medals at these games. And then
45:20
Speaker 3: here's another one, Ozzie Jemima Montag. She gave a shout
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Speaker 3: out to a Holocaust survivor grandmother after winning bronze in racewalking.
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Speaker 3: Have a look.
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Speaker 8: But the fact that this race was in Paris, there's
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Speaker 8: also a significant part of your family's history that runs
45:39
Speaker 8: through this city as well. How important was that for
45:42
Speaker 8: you when you were running in this race?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, really important.
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Speaker 14: So my grandparents were Holocaust survivors and Paris was where
45:49
Speaker 14: they sought refuge after Auschwitz. It's been really interesting getting
45:54
Speaker 14: to know more of that story since my nana passed
45:56
Speaker 14: a few years ago, and I knew when this Olympics
45:59
Speaker 14: were named in Paris that I'd be able to draw
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Speaker 14: on extra strength from her knowing that this is where
46:05
Speaker 14: she came.
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Speaker 8: Can you tell us about the bracelet? Let's on your
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Speaker 8: risk So.
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Speaker 14: This was Nana's necklace, and actually, before she died, my
46:13
Speaker 14: Auntie had it made into three identical bracelets for my
46:15
Speaker 14: sisters and I. It never comes off, and it's just
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Speaker 14: a really tangible reminder of her legacy, her strength, her resilience,
46:24
Speaker 14: her courage. And it reminds me also that when races
46:29
Speaker 14: get to that sticky point where you're thinking of giving
46:31
Speaker 14: up or questioning your grittiness, your desire, it reminds.
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Speaker 3: Me that all of that is in my DNA.
46:39
Speaker 14: And it also reminds me that I've got to make
46:41
Speaker 14: the most of this opportunity in life. You know, hers
46:45
Speaker 14: was nearly taken away so many times, and I'm so
46:49
Speaker 14: grateful to be able to give this a shot.
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Speaker 8: So were you thinking of her? So you hit that
46:56
Speaker 8: fifteen kilometer mark, you clearly exhausted, but you need to
47:00
Speaker 8: dig deep and find something extra Or was her story
47:04
Speaker 8: going through your mind at that time?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 14: So I sent my performance team and my family a
47:10
Speaker 14: list of affirmations that they could yell out to me,
47:13
Speaker 14: and one of them is just Judy is with you.
47:16
Speaker 14: And I like tear up when I think of that,
47:19
Speaker 14: and it's like, yeah, she's no longer alive, but the
47:23
Speaker 14: bracelets on and I've got her genetics, and she's with
47:27
Speaker 14: me looking down, so drawing on her strength definitely when
47:31
Speaker 14: I've lost all of my own.
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Speaker 8: How significance of an influence has she been in your life?
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Speaker 14: Oh? To be honest, I think once I was born
47:43
Speaker 14: she'd really entered her decline and most Holocaust survivors would
47:47
Speaker 14: have had significant amounts of PTSD and depression. And according
47:51
Speaker 14: to my dad and my auntie, I never met the
47:53
Speaker 14: true Judith Montag. So it's I'm almost getting to know
47:57
Speaker 14: her since her passing, trying to piece together her survival
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Speaker 14: story and thinking ahead to maybe turning it into a
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Speaker 14: book one day. And it's actually really heartwarming getting to
48:07
Speaker 14: know her through these love letters and these photographs and
48:11
Speaker 14: these recordings of her story.
48:14
Speaker 3: And a big thanks to Matt Cunningham for that interview
48:17
Speaker 3: from Paris.
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Speaker 2: Is that a beautiful story?
48:19
Speaker 3: And how her family are shouting out messages of inspiration
48:23
Speaker 3: and affirmation as she's racing, just incredible. Well that's all
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Speaker 3: we have time for tonight. I'll see you tomorrow at eight.
48:29
Speaker 3: We've got just Center Price on the show, so make
48:31
Speaker 3: sure you tune in. But right now here's Paul Murray
48:34
Speaker 3: in the man Cave.