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"WE'RE TOAST!" 50-year fan and "optimist" not bullish on 2026 Angels; Sterling Ball joins · Halo Territory: A Los Angeles Angels Podcast

• 0:06
  Speaker 1: Well, hey Angel fans, and welcome back to Halo territory.
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: I am Mike di Giovanna form Rally Times Baseball writer,
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: joined by Mark Trumbo, my regular co host and the
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: former Angel slugger, and today, in our continuing efforts to
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: incorporate the voice and perspective of fans, we welcome Sterling Ball,
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: who has been an Angel fan for more than five decades.
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: That's a long time, Sterling. Welcome to the show. How
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: you doing today, Thanks Mike, Thanks Mark.
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: I really enjoy it. I'm cursed of being a lifetime
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: Angel fan.
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: Well, we've heard about that curse, although two thousand and
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: two we thought put an end to that curse. But
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: we can talk about all that a little later. Let's
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: talk a little bit about this current season. Sterling. How
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: are you feeling about the direction of the franchise right now?
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: Well, I think direction of the friends and performance are
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: kind of like a what did you expect? I mean,
• 1:04
  Speaker 2: we were sold. We don't have very much communication coming
• 1:06
  Speaker 2: from the GM or the owner. And they they bargained,
• 1:12
  Speaker 2: you know, they bargain basement and and bottom fed a
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: bunch of older guys and sold us on the thing
• 1:18
  Speaker 2: as well. If two of them hit We're going to
• 1:20
  Speaker 2: be fabulous, well pretty much none of them have been
• 1:23
  Speaker 2: as far as the pitching. And you know, you have
• 1:25
  Speaker 2: a first year manager that I'm sure isn't paid very well,
• 1:28
  Speaker 2: that probably has too much input now and uh I
• 1:33
  Speaker 2: don't really blame him that much.
• 1:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Uh, well, here's the deal with our relationship. Stirlin
• 1:44
  Speaker 3: is one of the two guys that I feel confident
• 1:49
  Speaker 3: in their baseball IQ to really get into the weeds on.
• 1:52
  Speaker 3: We could have I could have kind of led with that,
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  Speaker 3: But we talk about Angels games nearly every night and
• 1:59
  Speaker 3: go through what is going on and all of those things.
• 2:04
  Speaker 3: So last night was no exception, another crippling loss with
• 2:09
  Speaker 3: a comfortable lead. Kurt chose to take Jack out of
• 2:14
  Speaker 3: that ball game. And we are recording this on.
• 2:19
  Speaker 1: What is today Tuesday?
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  Speaker 3: Tuesday, so some Monday night, Monday Night's game for clarity,
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  Speaker 3: and it was a rough one. That's been two in
• 2:28
  Speaker 3: a row where the bullpen has just not gotten the
• 2:30
  Speaker 3: job done and Sterling, what do they need to do?
• 2:34
  Speaker 1: What do you think needs to happen?
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  Speaker 3: From your perspective, I think that we're kind of toast.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard to say.
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  Speaker 1: That, but I'm not even may Sterling.
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  Speaker 2: Well, okay, let me talk about the good thing. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we got great starting pitching, really really good starting pitching,
• 2:52
  Speaker 2: much better than any of us thought. Okay, you have
• 2:55
  Speaker 2: some signings like Chrisom that I wasn't that fond of.
• 2:59
  Speaker 2: He's killing. I think Perazza is wonderful at second or third.
• 3:05
  Speaker 2: I think that they should trust Udosio more and maybe
• 3:08
  Speaker 2: not pinch hit for him when he's hitting four to
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: sixty in his last seven games. And I don't like
• 3:14
  Speaker 2: seeing an infielder replace him for defensive purchases late in
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  Speaker 2: the innings. But I think we have a lot of
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  Speaker 2: good things, but I don't think you can. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think you can fix the pitching right now because you
• 3:25
  Speaker 2: have no depth. No depth, okay at Triple A is
• 3:30
  Speaker 2: kind of a joke.
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  Speaker 1: When you say pitching, we're talking about the bullpen obviously.
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  Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, And short starts, which Mark and you have
• 3:39
  Speaker 2: talked about. Short starts are just they're like the worst
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  Speaker 2: thing you can do to a bad bullpen.
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  Speaker 1: For some context, and las Mark said, we're taping Tuesday
• 3:49
  Speaker 1: afternoon in six games through Monday night. Bullpen Angel relievers
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  Speaker 1: twenty one and a third innings pitched, thirty hits, fourteen walks,
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  Speaker 1: twenty five earned runs. That's a ten point five to
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  Speaker 1: five ERA, and four blown saves. That is not going
• 4:07
  Speaker 1: to get done on any level.
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  Speaker 2: Mike, I've lived every one of those two.
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  Speaker 1: You feel the loss is hard. They affect you still
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  Speaker 1: at this age.
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  Speaker 2: No, because I've been you know, I kind of expected
• 4:21
  Speaker 2: when I saw the five on lead and I saw
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  Speaker 2: what was going on, I said, Okay, here's where we
• 4:26
  Speaker 2: usually blow it. And we did both days. So it's
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of funny. But you know, there's little things
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  Speaker 2: I really believe though, that the manager is and the problem.
• 4:35
  Speaker 2: I think the problem is the owner, and I think
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  Speaker 2: Perry Manasci in has head. He's done some good things,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't think he's done a very good job
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  Speaker 2: mostly communicating with the fans and how he decides to
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  Speaker 2: load this bullpen in this team.
• 4:51
  Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about the young core that Perry has
• 4:54
  Speaker 3: been very high on. What do you see from whatever?
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  Speaker 3: Whoever is part of that young core is a bit
• 5:02
  Speaker 3: ambiguous to me. At times. It looks like it could
• 5:05
  Speaker 3: be three guys, it could be one guy, and I
• 5:09
  Speaker 3: think the one guy that is a lock for it.
• 5:12
  Speaker 3: To be honest with you, has he had a very
• 5:14
  Speaker 3: disappointing air. Zach Netto is who I'm talking about. That
• 5:17
  Speaker 3: air looked like something that a guy with the gaudy
• 5:22
  Speaker 3: defensive run saved that they love to push on the broadcast.
• 5:26
  Speaker 3: I see it on X a lot. Still unclear. I
• 5:29
  Speaker 3: guess Brent Suter's three def defensive runs saved may be
• 5:34
  Speaker 3: on account of his pickoffs, although I don't know he
• 5:36
  Speaker 3: has three. I know he has one for sure. But
• 5:39
  Speaker 3: zach Netto's air last night really was the catalyst for
• 5:43
  Speaker 3: that inning getting away from them. In addition his overall demeanor,
• 5:47
  Speaker 3: Sir Lean, you and I have talked about this. It
• 5:49
  Speaker 3: seems a little bit down. In years past, we've seen
• 5:52
  Speaker 3: him very tight with the manager. Generally he's usually talking, smiling, laughing.
• 5:58
  Speaker 3: For whatever reason, I'm not seeing that. He had a
• 6:01
  Speaker 3: pour at bat late in the game yesterday he expanded,
• 6:04
  Speaker 3: got to a three through count and hacked it breaking
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  Speaker 3: ball out of the strike zone. And at times he
• 6:10
  Speaker 3: has given a very mediocre effort on his hard nineties
• 6:16
  Speaker 3: to first base. What do you think about that? You've
• 6:19
  Speaker 3: been a big fan of AX. I know you still are,
• 6:21
  Speaker 3: But are you seeing some of those same things?
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I see a lot of it, but I
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: think a lot of to see young player, and I
• 6:28
  Speaker 2: think there's a lot of mental things going on. And
• 6:32
  Speaker 2: I'm concerned about his shoulder. Okay, I think that's a
• 6:35
  Speaker 2: bigger story. Anytime he dies for a ball or still
• 6:39
  Speaker 2: slides head first in he gets up gingerly and you say, oh,
• 6:43
  Speaker 2: there goes Neto and it doesn't. But I also remember
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  Speaker 2: him sitting next to Nevin, sitting next to Wash like
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  Speaker 2: the sun looking up for the person, and I just
• 6:51
  Speaker 2: don't see that. And I'm kind of wondering about some
• 6:54
  Speaker 2: of the chemistry. And I don't know if it's all
• 6:56
  Speaker 2: the chemistry through Suzuk, but maybe the rest of the staff.
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  Speaker 2: So you know what, I don't think there's any excuse
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  Speaker 2: to not run like your back's on fire when you're
• 7:10
  Speaker 2: running at first. I think Hustle is great as the
• 7:12
  Speaker 2: kind of players I love. I kind of worry about him.
• 7:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I had never wanted to like criticize physical errors,
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  Speaker 1: but to me, the effort on that play was really
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  Speaker 1: kind of strange for Zach. I mean, it was a
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  Speaker 1: lefty it, but he hit a pretty hard one to
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: two hopper. He had plenty of time to square his
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  Speaker 1: body up and feel the ball, but he chose to
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: you know, sideswipe it and the ball goes right under
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: his club and Mark was that kind of an odd
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: way to feel that ball in that situation, especially with
• 7:43
  Speaker 1: a wet endfield. You know, it was raining most of
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: the night, and just seemed like a high risk approach
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  Speaker 1: on that grounder.
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  Speaker 3: Looked like he got caught on his heels. If I'm
• 7:54
  Speaker 3: being honest, I don't think a ball was hit very
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  Speaker 3: hard either. It was a very makeable play. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if that's the case of maybe going for the
• 8:02
  Speaker 3: flashier version when just a stock, very boring approach. Now
• 8:08
  Speaker 3: he makes these fantastic plays as well. So the game
• 8:13
  Speaker 3: yesterday and again the timing. I'm sorry if I messed
• 8:17
  Speaker 3: this up, but Monday night's game was heavily delayed. It
• 8:21
  Speaker 3: started somewhere around nine to forty there so they were
• 8:26
  Speaker 3: playing I mean that was eleven forty at night or
• 8:29
  Speaker 3: something or later. It's but this is the major leagues too.
• 8:34
  Speaker 3: I know we got some criticism for not being clear
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  Speaker 3: about who the Angels are facing as to who is
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  Speaker 3: striking them.
• 8:41
  Speaker 2: Out.
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  Speaker 3: But by the same token, they had to play late
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  Speaker 3: last night. You have to face nasty pitchers, Dylan Cec
• 8:47
  Speaker 3: or otherwise. This is the major leagues. There are no excuses.
• 8:51
  Speaker 3: You have to strap up. You have to go get
• 8:52
  Speaker 3: it done. And Zach Netto and spring training to me,
• 8:56
  Speaker 3: a lot of talks about kind of this is his team,
• 8:59
  Speaker 3: he's the leader, a lot of smiles. You know, we're
• 9:02
  Speaker 3: year three four into this thing, and we kind of
• 9:05
  Speaker 3: got this. We know who we are. We just have
• 9:07
  Speaker 3: to be ourselves and play together. Is this playing together? Sterling?
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  Speaker 2: No? And I think that he wears his heart on
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: his sleeve, and so that's what we can tell, is it?
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: You know? And as really as the Angels, you know,
• 9:21
  Speaker 2: they got Mike Trout and they got that. I'm concerned though.
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: You got guys who do a certain thing, and Netto
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  Speaker 2: pulls the ball, okay, especially you give him a leadoff fastball,
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna mash it. And now I think he's been
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: totally gonna walk more. And I don't know if that
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: interferes with his aggressiveness at the plate. But he still
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: struck out forty times, which is too much for a
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  Speaker 2: leadoff hitter. And you know, I think that some of
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: the players, and I know we're shifting to Shanawell. You
• 9:51
  Speaker 2: got a guy who doesn't make hard contact but great
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: hand eye. I mean, stepped out of college into here
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: pretty much a couple of weeks, and now all we've
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: tried to do is increase his bat speed and make
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: him pull the ball. Well, that's not what he's going
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  Speaker 2: to do. And it's the wrong thing to do to him.
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: So I worry about some of the direction with the
• 10:10
  Speaker 2: core because Mark, I think Shahana Well is part of
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: the core. I think Netto is, I think OHOPI, which
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: has been so well documented. But I heard on the
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: radio two nights ago, but Gooby's saying that he's now
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: an elite catcher and I don't know what game, what
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: game he is watching.
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that standard of elite may have been shifted down.
• 10:35
  Speaker 3: Fairly certain it was. That was a Peacock broadcast, probably,
• 10:39
  Speaker 3: and I think he was referring to throwing a couple
• 10:41
  Speaker 3: of runners out the night before. But the overall package
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: no elite is not not probably accurate. Yet Gooby is awesome.
• 10:50
  Speaker 3: You know, they're entitled to say whatever they please. I
• 10:54
  Speaker 3: know Roger Lodge had a tweet today with a lot
• 10:56
  Speaker 3: of exclamation marks, the you know, flush what's happened so
• 11:00
  Speaker 3: far and today's starts a new or whatever it said.
• 11:04
  Speaker 3: But to be honest that I'm not sure that that's
• 11:07
  Speaker 3: really You can't just flush what's happened.
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, we're gonna take a quick commercial break for
• 11:12
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• 11:15
  Speaker 1: more from Sterling Ball on his really interesting family background
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: and how he became an Angel's season ticket older many
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: years ago. We'll be right back with more Halo territory.
• 11:26
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• 12:28
  Speaker 1: And welcome back to Halo Territory. I Mike D. Giovanna
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: with Mark Trumbo and our guest is Sterling Ball, a
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: fifty year plus Angels fan. Before we get into your background, Sterling,
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: and I just want to ask you one more question
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: about sort of the current Angels and the contexts of
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: this last decade. You know, they're obviously off to another
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: rough start this year, but it's been a rough ten years.
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: Has this whole era of Angel baseball really tested your
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: faith in the franchise.
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to tried to figure out who else
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: to follow, and I'm just you know, I'm stuck with it.
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: You know, I've got but I really love the Angels
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: and I've followed for so long, and uh, I just yeah,
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's been a horrible ten years. But you know,
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: you have you have a situation where it doesn't surprise me.
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: You have an owner that won't communicate, you have a
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: general manager that's that seems almost punitive. I mean, and
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: I think that they if there's an Olympic sport for
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: shooting the messenger, you podcasters would be I mean, I'd
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: be careful. It might be an Olympic gold medal. But
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, why haven't you had Zach Netto on the show? Yeah,
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: come on, answer the tough questions.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: We haven't had much cooperation in terms of getting guess
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: that's why did you.
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: Get me fruit baskets?
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: Did you get me fruit?
• 13:48
  Speaker 6: No?
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: Fruit baskets? No, nothing.
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: We are working on it. We are working on it.
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: It's a proba process, is what you say in things
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: like this, and uh, you know what on that piggybacking,
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: This would be about the time for a team meeting
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: after a loss like that. No, seriously, I mean, but
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: I do wonder who leads and he's gonna run it
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: out And it wasn't even answer. But if they're Kenley
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: Jansen probably would have been the guy last year. Yeah,
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know who it is this year?
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: Is it?
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: Is it a Dell?
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: Maybe Adele? I don't know.
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would pick Joe Odell because you would normally
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: think Mike Trout would be the guy, but he's never
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: been that team meeting type of guy. Yeah, maybe Jodell.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: I think he has the cachet and the gravitas to
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: sort of hold the room, and he's, you know, a
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: really good talker, and he gets pretty emotional. I don't know.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: That would be my guess too. How about your sterling,
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: who do you want to leave the team meeting?
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: Bobby Canop.
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: Even better?
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I just here's a problem. They need the meeting,
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: but I think the meeting needs to be with the
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: coaching staff too. I think I'm thinking that there's a
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: lot of input going to sus and I think the
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: games sped out up, sped up on him a lot.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: And I always hear about players talking about slowing the
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: game down. I'd kind of let him, let him make
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: his mistakes, but I have I just I'm not given
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: him the benefit of the doubt. But I know how
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: controlled the information and comments are with the Angels, and
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: it's not really my favorite thing. Yeah, I'll tell you
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: one thing. I'm in the middle of a three year boycott.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: I haven't been to the stadium. It was very hard
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: for me to do. But I vote with my dollars. Wow,
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: and until Lady Cells, I'm going for years.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: So you're you're gonna wait until Lady sell at this point?
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Is that your your your bottom line?
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Or maybe decides that he's gonna let real baseball
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: people and not his buddies at the Billboard Company be
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: nupper management.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's get a little bit hear a
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: little bit more about your background, uh sterling for those
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: who might not know your story, tell us a little
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: bit about your journey with Ernie Ball and how baseball
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: became such a big part of.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: Your life, you know, Ernie Ball. I grew up in
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: a musical family. My great grandfather wrote when Iris Izer smiling.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: My grandmother was a famous jazz pianist. For my dad
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: was the staff guitarist at Disney and several other things,
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: and he opened what was the first electric guitar store
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: in the world nineteen fifty three, broke and broke three times,
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: came up with guitar strings that people wanted to use.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Leo Fender wouldn't do it, none of the people. So
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: my dad came up with him. And he was a
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: serial entrepreneur. I was running the Cajus register of his
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: store at nine and it's all I ever wanted to do.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: I took it over at twenty two. We had fourteen
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: employees and now we have six hundred and fifty here
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: in California and in one hundred and twenty countries. We've
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: made brand or sold three billion products. So I know
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: a little bit about branding and marketing.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: Well, that's true. All of that is true, And your
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: biography is incredibly long. You are also in the Barbecue
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame if I'm not correct or mistaken. So
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: it really is is ack of a lot to cover.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: You talked about an interesting name for there's some crossover
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: appeal here. It's pretty obvious, or there should be, or
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: we hope there will be. But your season tickets, when
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: you first got those season tickets. You've talked about that
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: view being one of your favorites too. Did you get
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: those from somebody in particular that people might in the
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: music world especially would probably know the name?
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: No, okay, I did, a guy named Leo Fender. I
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: worked for Leo when I was twenty. I was a
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: beta tesker form. He had these great seats or in
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: the club level, about four seats away from where mister
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: O shot mister Nixon. I sat next to Jack Brennan,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: who was Nixon's chief of staff, and I was a
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: long haired bass player. You probably can't till now, but uh,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: and that I love that club level. I'll never forget
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: on that. I moved to San Luis Obispo, and so
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: I brought the Angels to San Luis Obispo, so I
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: wouldn't miss out. Well, I got Leo seats.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. There was an era Sterling, as we
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: all know, that was pretty darn good in Angel Baseball
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: World Series Champs and two they won was it? Five
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: division titles and six years from four to nine, one
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: again in fourteen, And there was a time when Ardi
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Marino was not so reviled in Orange County. You know,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: they they signed Bladdy Guerrero, Bartolo Cologne, Albert Poolholst, Josh Hamilton,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Anthony Rendo didn't work out so much. But what was
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: sort of a fan expectation throughout this period as already
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: as emptying the pocketbook and signing all these guys.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Well, it taught me that big contracts don't necessarily make
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: a team and the chemistry and if you look at
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: the really big contracts, they generally don't pay. But I
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: also realized that signing them to a big contract with
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: for ten years, when you know they're only going to
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: be good for five, he's a way of skirting some
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: of the labor issues. Okay, And same thing now with
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: the Furrals that I think that's bad for baseball, but
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: it's legal. I don't know if that answered your question right,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: but I just you know, I see I see a
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: situation where there's no plan. You can't see what's the
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Angels brand of baseball mark currently? Yeah?
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: With Socian, well, under Socia it was easily defined. It
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: was a hard nosed style. It was very aggressive on
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: the bay. There would be outs, there were trade offs,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: but at the same time, especially it was obvious. I've
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: said it on the show before. But when I went
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: to other teams, when you played the Angels, you knew
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: that you had to bring it because they were going
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: to bring it. There was no doubt that the intensity
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: was going to be there, the effort was going to
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: be there. Didn't mean they were always going to win,
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: but you had to up your game to play them.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: And in the last handful of years, it's hard to
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: really say. I think the offense is very one dimensional.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: We've talked about it again this year. I was hoping
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: to see more dynamic approach meeting guys that and there's
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: been a few pros. Has been a bright spot. Fraser
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: has been a bright spot. Beyond that that, it's still
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: very reliant on the home runs. The strikeouts are leading
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: the league, and they are taking a lot more walks,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: which is very intriguing to me.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: That is nice.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: But and when they do score runs, at least right now,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: the pitching is giving up more so. Also concerning last night,
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: we're kind of bobbing around a little bit, but sil
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Seth has not thrown two games in a row, sir,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: And he was a guy that in one of these
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: two games. I mean, he's one of their best arms.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: He didn't make an appearance at all. Is that something
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: that is somewhat intriguing concerning.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Well, if there was more information, I can answer that.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: So I'm loved to guess. So I got to put
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: my kevlar coat on. But I worry about sil Seth
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: and Bachman with being overuse and their injury history and
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: what they were over using sil South in my opinion
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: at the beginning, because they have a tendency to ride
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: the pack horse until it's debt. I think one of
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: the biggest problems Mark is I don't judge the Angels
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: on sweeping the Dodgers last year six times. I judge
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: him on their record against Kansas City, who had terrible
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: record going into this, and then Seattle. We're not mashing
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: the teams. If we think we're really good and think
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: we're better than them, there's one clear way to find out.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: You got to beat them, and you have. You got
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: to be able to close the door on a game.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: You gotta you know, you gotta be able to feel good.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: I don't turn off those routes because I know that
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: they might lose.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Unfortunately, that's a real possibility. Last time, who's the Who's
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: the closer and Samlin was the name I threw in there.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: It hasn't aged so well. The answer now is I
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: have no clue and maybe it's not that important. It
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: could be anybody, so I would like to retract my answer.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: I still have some hope for him, but I I
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: I have no clue, and you know what I Kurt, Well,
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: fortunately they will have Soriano going tonight. He uh will
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: probably do his normal hopefully eight innings of nothing and
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: maybe leave one inning up to the bullpen. But I'm
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: not envious of the position Kurt is in right now
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: because anyone would be gun shy calling down and having
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: to answer the music after the game, whatever music that is.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: But uh, it is.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: It is tough. Can I ask you there? Sure you got?
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: You got? You got a situation where you're you're riding
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: these horses and then they collapse and there's nobody there.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: But I don't know, I'm kind of kind of losing
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: my way here. But I just watch this. I just
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: watch his team, and I think that they don't have
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: a brand, they don't have an identity, they don't have
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: a style. You know, I think about that we are
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: family bi Originally I think over the years, all these
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: people that had team chemistry that was really great and
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: a real defined harden Knows way of playing. That's what
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: I hope happens with the Angels.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Did that change Sterling when Mike's Social left, because right
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: around the time Social, it was a year overlap, but
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Social leaves after twenty eighteen. That was the year they
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: signed Showhi Otani, you know, and they have Otani and Trout.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Trout at the time was still Mike Trout. And you
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: would have thought, and at that point there was only
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: a four or five year playoff Drout, you would have
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: thought we would have turned around. Then. Did that change
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: the vibe and how did that sort of just deteriorate?
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Well, what are you talking about? Shoe Antoni didn't play
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: for us. I saw the sixty year video that they
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: left him out of.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry, No, it's not.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: It comes down to the pettiness, ownerships, in the vindictive nature.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: They can't touch me. I'm fine. I saw guitar strings
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: and barbecue sauce. But I think that it's a big,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: big problem.
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  Speaker 3: This is one of the unique things, and I will
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: ask Sterling because he's way more qualified as a business
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: owner of a large company with employees and brand in
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: and marketing, and no doubt over the years there's probably
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: been a few things that have pr wise not been awesome.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: That's inevitable with any company, but it's how you handle them.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: It's how you handle conflict, it's how you handle dealing
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: with people that you may not always enjoy dealing with.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: But to answer your question earlier as to why Zach
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Netto and other current players, it's quite obvious they would
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: like to handle it in house. They have their own
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: podcast that comes out I don't know if that's monthly
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: or whatever, with you know, it's well produced. Trent Rush
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: is hosting it, and that's fine. But as far as
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: other networks, entities like us kind of out in the cold,
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: unique because I see a lot of other similar shows
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: getting that kind of access and.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: It's their prerogative.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: They can do whatever they want. I've tried to say,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: I think we could be a vehicle for good for
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: them as well, But as we are aiming to be
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: at least neutral coverage, we have to call it like
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: we see it, and as we see it currently not
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: so great.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Well, it's terrible. Let me tell you what they did.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: I think you know he came in Baseball's Easy, bringing
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: in his book Buddies, and let's try I call the
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Billboard Book Club. They get together, it's kind of going
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: their man cave, and boy, this baseball is easy, and
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: we don't need Eddie Bain and we don't need Stoneman,
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: and we could just do this. We'll just get Bolls
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: a lot of money and we'll give hey Josh Hamilton,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: forget about his background. Well, we'll sign a lot of
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: guys that had one good year, which we did with Stevenson,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: which I kind of liked, but unfortunately it didn't work out.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: But now they look at say we could sign this
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: guy for fifty million, where we could buy ten containers
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: of babbleheads, and their attendance goes up fifteen thousand dollars
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: fifteen thousand seats on a babblehead night on the weekend,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: fifteen thousand. That's putting butts in the seats. But to me,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: it doesn't do anything towards growing a sustainable brand as
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: a baseball team. So they're really distributors of babbleheads. It
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: works out financially better than signing somebody.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: How much is it go ahead?
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: How?
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: I mean? I was asking you? Good? Great?
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Actually, I asked Stirling, I believe the other night, would
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: you rather have an abysmal major league team and a
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: strong farm system, or a very weak farm system and
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: a below average big league team that just passes the
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: sniff test enough to get your customers in the seats.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: And I think that that's kind of the dilemma the
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: farm system. It may be actually stronger. The rankings are subjective.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: A lot of people disagree, and we might have a
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: stronger farm and it might with the mid season rankings
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: that could improve, and it probably will improve. How much
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: so I'm not sure, but there are some pictures that
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: are that are doing quite well as far as the
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: hitting side, slim pickings especially. Yeah, and you know, the
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: depth is what Sam has. And Sam's predictions were very
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: low as far as wind total, and people said he
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: was out of his mind, and even I thought six
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: it was I don't know if it was low sixties
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: or mid sixties, sixty five it was. That's that is
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: awfully low. I think that they're still going to get
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: it together a little bit. But unfortunately, this team is
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: really looking like, as we said last episode, the August
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: September versions of the last five years.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's really terrifying, but I just think
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: it's I think the organization. It's so hard to beat
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: to been in business a long time. You talked about
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: facing pr the one roll of prs. You tell the truth,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: you don't hide, Okay, especially you're talking with journalist Mike.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: You can tell people a mile away when they're bs
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: and you right giving you one. Yeah, you have to.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: You have to as a leader, stand up, put your
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: shoulders back and say I got your bag, guys, And
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: it's really important. And I saw Suzuki the other night
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: and you use the picture with his head like this. Absolutely,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: a leader never does that. Okay. I've seen some of
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: the coaching staff look down when somebody struck out. It's
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: just not good. There's cameras everywhere now, and I just
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: believe you get You've got to show that there's some
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: confidence in here and some trust, and it starts at
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: the top. They're not very open. I watched for fun
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: today Perry's end of the season press conference last night.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: I mean this morning in it, it's horrible, and you
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: guys teed off on him for one in the spring
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: training and one at the end of the season. It's terrible,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: but realize he told us several times that he has
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: the money to compete, the budgets compete. I think that
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: was disingenuine at dust.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, well yeah, that's but you got him on
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: the last year and you got Suzuki.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: If you're not going to pay for a real big
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: league manager, I think it's fine developing somebody like Suzuki,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: as I've already said, but give him a chance to
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: make some mistakes, because you will give me a chance
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: to find his brand and let him own his own decisions. Yeah.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Well, let's close the show with this question. And you're
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: an interesting guy to ask you. You know, one of Arty's
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: big things over the last ten years is just flat
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: out refusal, for lack of a better word, to tank
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: to tear it all down, start from scratch. He's always
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: hammin egging it. You know, all these reclamation projects for
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: three million, for five million, some even more expensive. He
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: hasn't been able to really build a franchise. You're as
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: long as you're a five decade fan, would you be
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: willing to tolerate three straight one hundred lost seasons for
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: like the Astros? Did you know fifteen sixteen years ago,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: like some teams have done. The Orioles a couple of
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: years ago, would you have been as a longtime fan,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: as hardcore a fan as there is, would you have
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: been willing to tolerate that?
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, But you've got to understand the curse and
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: why he hasn't really been able to do that is
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: the Mike Crout contract right away, and before that, the rendon.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: When you've got seventy some million and two players, it's hard.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: What are you going to do? So you get struck
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: in ARTI's actually paid decent payroll. It's just been stupid.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: You know, it's not an efficient spin. It's a short start. Okay.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: It's interesting because some of the things that might seem
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: logical locking up Jose Soriano zach netto some of these guys,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: that is not. I mean, teams are doing it left
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: and right. They're locking up their young players, they're locking
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: up guys they don't have any major league service time.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Some of these guys are in Double A, so they're
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: obviously very confident or somewhat confident. I'm gonna say very
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: to do it with a guy in double A. But
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: they must have the analytics and the modeling to really
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: say with a level of certainty that this guy is
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: going to be a stud and we're going to get
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: that's the trade off. You're going to get some value there.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: The player will have to give up some money, how
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: much you know, Sometimes it's unfortunately. Albe's contract is very crooked.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: That's a player that signed a deal that has not aged.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: I mean he at times, I think it was thirty
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: five million dollars total. Bumgarner had a deal that was
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: well undervalue. Goldsmith I believe, did too. Plenty of examples
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: of that. It seems like the models have kind of
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: all shifted. But now what's very trendy is locking up
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: a guy like Zachnetto in his first year to eight
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: nine years, and they didn't do that. It looks like
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: maybe he's headed to free agency the Otani route. So
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: it just seems like that if they're not going to
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: sign the big contracts the albatross ones reference Rendon and others,
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: and they're not going to lock up the young players,
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: and what are they doing?
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, it's an indication that already is not
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: in this for the long haul. And if you're not
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: in it for the long haul, get the heck out
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: sell the team, you know, I mean, he's not he
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem committed to doing what's necessary to turn this
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: franchise around. And that's fine. You know, he's eighty years old,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: he's had a pretty good run up until the last
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: ten years. Sell the team, let somebody else try it.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Is that sort of the sentiment right now of ninety
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: nine percent of the fan base thrilling.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: If you didn't sign jack netto the first year, you're
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: probably not gonna sign him now. And this is what's
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: gonna this is gonna get a lot of bad comments.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: But I would trade jack netto now next Jay. I
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: absolutely would, and he's my favorite player. But but you
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: know what, he's not enough, and he's not gonna sign
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: and we're gonna hold on to him stubbornly and not
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: get anybody.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Just like we did.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Joe. Hey, I think that was bad. I mean I
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: think to pile on already. I mean, you made a
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: deal to get ring Griefo. We could have bodjis now.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: I was in three fifths part of the deal, and
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: and you know we would have strippling and Jock before
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: you discovered ice cream marketing.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Closing thoughts, I.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: Didn't see that one coming, but I'm not surprised either.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: The thing is, obviously this episode is going to have
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: the tone that has been established. But for Claire Stir,
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: you are you are somewhat of an eternal optimist at
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: the same time you and I'm somewhere I'm not. I mean,
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: I played. I have a very different background, so I
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: don't watch it from the same lens you do, although
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: I did grow up rooting for this team, so there's
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: some of that in there as well. And I think
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: at times can be more cynical, but you, you will
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: always say the best in things. You uh tend you
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: ride the highs and then you handle the lows better
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  Speaker 3: than some.
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  Speaker 1: One in particular.
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  Speaker 3: But on X but the fans, it's just I'm glad
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  Speaker 3: I don't have to endure that nightly if some of
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: this stuff is just and I'm falling for it, you know,
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: blown out of proportion with the responses. But I do
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: think a fair amount of these people live and die
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: with this ball club, and it might be a lot
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  Speaker 3: better suited rooting for the team across the fifty seven
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  Speaker 3: Freeway if they're looking for more stability or you know,
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  Speaker 3: more happiness. I don't know, Stralia, have you noticed what
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: the Ducks are doing at all.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Ducks are building a community center that we
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: should have had. We screwed up. That affects the value
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: when ourty selves the development, the ansulary development around greeting
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: a community hub is gone. The Ducks beat us to it.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: That really bothers me from a business standpoint. And the stadium,
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, stay out of I'll don't buy a hot
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: dog four fourteen right now. I mean the stadium is
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  Speaker 2: a wreck. They don't get along with Anaheim, So I
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: fear they're gonna move. I feel that somebody's gonna buy
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: them and say, well, I got to go where I
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: can build this area like the Braves did in the
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: different people. So wow, you know, I am the cup
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: is full because I believe there's something to build on.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Where would that go Nashville?
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: And Nashville's probably gonna get an expansion team. I don't
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent disagree with you on that, Sterling, but
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I think a new owner is gonna have plenty of
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: options to build, whether it's a new stadium on that site,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: because it's still a great site for a stadium when
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: you consider how many people drive to the park. There
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: might be other sites in Orange County, but you're still
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: talking about the number two market in the country. Yes,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: the Dodgers are a shadow over everything the Angels are
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: doing right now, but that may not last forever. And
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: I just think, you know, you have a fan base.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: I think it's dormant right now. I sense the frustration
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: among fans we saw in two thousand and two, that
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: whole decade after two thousand and two, how you know
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: they were drawn. They were out drawing the Dodgers some years, Sterling,
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  Speaker 1: And I don't think it would take a lot for
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: them to return to that level, do you.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: No, no question? But what is Los Angeles teams? Sterling?
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Is this a Los Angeles team? No, it's not that.
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  Speaker 2: That's so insulting to me. We're Anaheim, Okay or California Angels.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's what I followed. No, I think
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: that we need to get back to our identity. You know,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: you always think that when Disney sold and the guy
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: came in and he lowered beer prices side pool, yeah
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: we got it, and then kind I don't feel that
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: same way about it. And now so I don't think
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: there's development opportunity in the ballpark and I think that's critical,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: and I think you do have to build a ballpark.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: I went with a good friend of mine who took
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: me to the golfing in the stadium names Mark Trumbo,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: and I won't comment because I don't want to give
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: them Mark in trouble. We kept looking up in the
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: off season and empty stadium, and I got worried about
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: going up to the top. Last thing I'll say I was.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: I was in the stands for eighty six eighty six.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: I was on the club level. The stadium was bouncing
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: more than anything I've ever felt. It was the most
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: exciting I could ever imagine being a baseball player. And
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: then Donny Moore gave it up. And there's no bigger
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: gut punch I'll ever have in sports than that. But
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: I was worried about that stadium holding up. Now I
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: think I like the stadium's a joke.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well we're gonna end on that note,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: not exactly a high note. But thanks for tuning in today,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Sterling Ball. A pleasure to meet you and to have
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: you on the show. Mark Trumpo, thanks for joining us
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: as usual. Please like and subscribe and we will see
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: you next time on Halo territory,