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MTM - Will Childhood Illnesses Recur if We Dont Vaccinate Our Kids? · More Than Medicine

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to More Than Medicine, where Jesus is more than enough for the ills that plague our culture and our country.
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  Speaker 1: Hosted by author and physician, dr Robert Jackson, and his wife Carlotta and daughter Hannah Miller.
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  Speaker 1: So listen up, because the doctor is in.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Welcome to More Than Medicine.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: I'm your host, Dr Robert Jackson, bringing to you biblical insights and stories from the country doctor's rusty, dusty scrapbook.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Well, my podcast a couple of weeks ago on vaccines and why you should not give pediatric vaccines to your children and grandchildren has provoked a great number of questions, and folks have emailed me their questions, and today what I would like to do is I would like to answer some of the questions that my listeners have emailed to me.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: So the first question is this is what if we do not give vaccines to our children?
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Will there be outbreaks of measles, mumps, rubella, chickenpox once again in our country?
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Well, that's a good question, and the first thing I want to say to you is I've been practicing medicine for 43 years and I have not seen measles, mumps, rubella or chickenpox outbreaks in my medical practice.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: In fact, I hardly ever see even isolated cases of any of these diseases.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: I have seen an occasional case of measles and chickenpox.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: I haven't seen any mumps, haven't seen any rubella, but I have occasionally seen measles and I have occasionally seen chickenpox.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: There are occasional outbreaks of measles.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Some of you will remember the Disneyland outbreak in 2014 of measles, in which there were about a little over a thousand cases of measles and we're going to talk about that in a few minutes.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Currently there's an outbreak of measles down in Texas.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: I don't have any statistics or public health data on that at this time.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Maybe when I have the data I will come back to you and we'll discuss that in detail.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: When I have the data, I will come back to you and we'll discuss that in detail.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: All of these childhood illnesses were extinguished before the 1950s and they disappeared because of improvements in public sanitation.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Medical science would like you to believe that the childhood illnesses disappeared because of the introduction of pediatric vaccines, but that's not the truth at all.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: All of the childhood illnesses, every last one of them, disappeared before the 1950s because of the introduction of public sanitation and improvements in hygiene.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: So the people who should get the greatest kudos are the engineers, the public sanitation engineers.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: They're the ones who eliminated measles, mumps, rubella, typhoid, cholera, because all of those things disappeared before the 1950s.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: There's not a pediatric vaccine for cholera, there's not a pediatric vaccine for typhoid, and yet those things disappeared without a pediatric vaccine.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Why is that?
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: It's because of public sanitation, improvements in hygiene and, to some extent, improvements in nutrition.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Some of these illnesses were made worse by poor nutrition and certain vitamin deficiencies.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: For example, measles can be treated with infusions of vitamin A or giving vitamin A, and it improves the mortality by 87 percent simply by giving children large doses of vitamin A.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: So I just want you to understand that if we were not to give any of the pediatric vaccines to any children in the United States, there would not be a huge resurgence of any of these childhood illnesses.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: And it's not because of the lack of the vaccines, it's because of the improvement in public sanitation.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: These illnesses disappeared long before the vaccines were ever introduced.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Now let's just talk about a couple of these illnesses in particular.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: I want you to be familiar with measles and chicken pox.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Let's just pick two of them to talk about.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Measles usually presents with a rash.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: It often involves the whole body.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: It's a pink, raised and serious-looking rash and it usually is accompanied by fever, congestion, a cough and pink eye, and it lasts about a week.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Measles is very contagious.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Now let's talk a little bit about the prevalence.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Measles affects one out of 1.2 million people.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: When it was a big issue.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: The vaccine is a very effective vaccine it's 95% effective.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: But there are risks attached to the vaccine and the risk of death from the vaccine is greater than one in 108,000 patients.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: But what's the risk if you don't get the vaccine?
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: The risk of death from measles is less than 1 in 105 million.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: That's not a very great risk, is it?
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: So you need to remember that the risk of death if you don't get the vaccine is 1 in 105 million, but the risk if you get the vaccine is 1 in 105 million.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: But the risk if you get the vaccine is 1 in 108,000.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: So just ponder that a little bit Now.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: There have been no childhood deaths from measles in the United States for over 20 years.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Children who are deficient in vitamin E I'm sorry, vitamin A are more likely to experience complications.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Before the vaccines appeared on the scene, parents largely came to see measles as an unpleasant, although more or less inevitable, part of childhood, and primary care doctors pretty much shared that view.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: So let me ask you why would they even develop a measles vaccine?
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Alexander Langmuir, who is a chief epidemiologist at the Center for Disease Control, wrote in 1962, just before the first measles vaccine was licensed.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: To those who ask me why do you wish to eradicate measles?
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: I reply with the same answer that Hillary used when asked why he wished to climb Mount Everest, he said because it is there.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: To this may be added and it can be done.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Langmuir, it turns out, was overly optimistic.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Now, more than 60 years later, it is not at all clear whether it can indeed be done.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: What Langmuir didn't know at the time was that vaccine-induced immunity wanes over time.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: At this point we have an unknown and growing percentage of adults whose measles immunity has worn off, leaving them susceptible to more severe measles infection than they would have had if they had contracted measles as children.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: And that has nothing whatever to do with the tiny percentage of parents who have chosen not to give their children the MMR vaccine.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: So, anyway, those are things that need to be considered.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Now think about this.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: One of the measles vaccines that's available today.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: It's the MMR2, has a host of concerning ingredients.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: It contains neomycin, glutamate, chick embryo cell culture, fetal bovine serum, WI38, human diploid lung fibroblast derived from a female fetus aborted in the early 1960s, and recombinant human albumin.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Now, these are the contents in that vaccine, besides other ingredients.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: With that concoction, is it any wonder that the MMR is associated with autism?
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Now, pay attention to this.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Dr Andrew Wakefield discovered that children vaccinated with the MMR vaccine often develop GI issues, includinga chronic inflammatory bowel syndrome.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: What he didn't know at the time was that there is a common link between bowel inflammation and brain immuno-excito toxicity.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: The stimulus to the brain travels by two routes the vagus nerve and the bloodstream.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Both activate brain microglia and precipitate chronic immunoexcitotoxicity in these children, with a resulting drastic rise in autism spectrum disorders.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: The actual mechanism, despite what promoters of these vaccines say, has been well demonstrated.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Now here's an interesting story that everyone needs to know.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: A long-term CDC researcher his name was William Thompson name was William Thompson told scientists and autism dad and vaccine watchdog Brian Hooker that he and four CDC colleagues had played fast and loose with their data when reporting the results of a study on MMR timing.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: That story of research fraud is detailed in the documentary Vaxxed from cover-up to catastrophe, which I highly recommend that you watch.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Dr Thompson issued a statement through his attorneys after the film came out, in which he said I regret that my co-authors and I omitted statistically significant information in our 2004 article published in the journal Pediatrics.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: The omitted data suggested that African-American males who received the MMR vaccine before age 36 months were at increased risk for autism.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Decisions were made regarding which findings to report after the data were collected and I believe the final study protocol was not followed.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: The increased risk Dr Thompson was talking about was a three times greater rate of autism in the black boys who got MMR on time.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: The original paper actually found a statistically significant increased risk of autism in the general population as well.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: The authors just dismissed that result by claiming, without any evidence whatsoever, that the kids with autism got the vaccine early so they could get early intervention.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Thompson later said that his co-authors literally threw the omitted data into a garbage can to get rid of it.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: They were able to bury this malfeasance for more than a decade before Thompson confessed the fraud to Dr Hooker.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Every time I read this I become more and more angry because, you see, the pharmaceutical industry has been denying for decades that there's any risk of autism associated with the MMR vaccine.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: But I have patients, I have moms who say to me repeatedly over the years that their child was developing normally until they received an MMR vaccine and then within a week or so their child began to stare into the distance or began to flap their arms or developed other serious neurologic deficits.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: And they say to me, dr Jackson, my child was normal until they received that MMR vaccine.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Now listen to me, dear listener If I'd only heard that once or twice in 43 years, I would just chalk it up to coincidence.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: But I've heard that dozens and dozens of times, and that's not mere coincidence.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: There's something about the MMR vaccine that contributes to autism in children, to neurologic deficits in children, and the pharmaceutical industry, the vaccine manufacturers, are denying it and covering it up.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: And I'm saying to you, moms do not let your children take an MMR vaccine, because there's no measles out there.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Why would you give your child a dangerous vaccine for a disease that disappeared in the 1950s?
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: That's a very serious question for you to consider.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: That's a very serious question for you to consider.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: It appears, at this point in time, that the risk associated with the MMR vaccine far exceed the likelihood of death or disability from a natural measles infection.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Now let's talk about the Disneyland outbreak.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: I want to discuss that with you briefly so you'll understand what we're dealing with.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: In 2014, the media was trumpeting that there was an outbreak in Disneyland and there was a little over a thousand cases in December of 2014.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Cases in December of 2014,.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: And there were television commercials literally hundreds of television commercials trumpeting and claiming that it was due to the unvaxxed, that they were responsible for the outbreak and that the unvaxxed were in danger of contracting a very serious illness.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Now, really Well, after all the data was collected, suddenly the commercials disappeared.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Why did they disappear?
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Let me tell you why.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Because when the data was collected, it turned out that 31% of the cases were actually in the vaxxed individuals and their vaccines had failed.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: 38% were unknown and out of the 120 cases that were quote unknown, they were really not unknown, they just their medical records could not be found.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Not unknown, they just their medical records could not be found.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: And out of the 120 unknowns, 20 of them were adults who stated yes, I received an MMR vaccine, but because their records couldn't be found, they were declared to be in the unknown category.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: So, really, of the 120 who were unknown, 20 of them were actually really known to receive an MMR vaccine and their vaccine failed also.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: And then another 30% they tested their measles genotype and they were found to be children who had the vaccine strain.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Their genotype was the vaccine strain and they had recently been vaccinated and their measles was actually from their recent MMR vaccine.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: So let me go through that again.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: I want you to fully understand 31% had been vaccinated.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Their vaccine failed and they contracted the measles even though they'd been vaccinated.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: 38% were in the unknown category and 30% contracted the measles from their recent MMR vaccine.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: So let me ask you a question how good is the vaccine program?
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Not very good at all.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: And how safe is the vaccine itself?
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Not very safe, because 30% of those who got the vaccine actually got the measles from the vaccine itself.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: So let me ask you a question Do measles outbreaks occur?
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Well, yes, they do.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: One occurred there in Disneyland in 2014.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: There's one ongoing right now in Texas.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: But how serious is a measles outbreak?
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Well, the only people who really have to be concerned are those who are immunocompromised and children who are less than a year of age.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: But now, do the children less than a year of age have to be really concerned?
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Well, not really, because if you give them vitamin A, then 87% of them are going to be protected.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Has any child died in the United States in the last 20 years from measles?
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Well, no, the only person who's died in the last 20 years is a woman who was immunocompromised and she had multiple serious illnesses going on at that time, and it's really not even fair to say that she died from the measles because she had so many other serious illnesses going on.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: There are fewer than a thousand cases of measles per year in the United States out of 330 million people.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: But let me point this out to you and nobody's telling you this when pediatric patients receive their 12-month MMR, 1 in 168 will end up in the emergency room.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Statistically, 1 in 168 will end up in the emergency room with a serious adverse reaction to that vaccine.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: When pediatric patients receive their 18-month MMR, one in 730 will end up in the emergency room with a serious adverse reaction.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Does anybody tell you that?
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: No, I don't think they're telling you that.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: And there are hundreds and hundreds of stories of normal kids who receive an MMR and within days or weeks of that, they start developing serious, permanent neurologic deficits on the autism spectrum disorder.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Now, moms, I don't know if you remember the peanut butter commercial from years ago that said choosy moms choose Jif, the brand name peanut butter.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: And I'm saying to you that choosy moms choose not to give their children MMR vaccines.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Now I was going to talk to you about chickenpox vaccine, but I'm going to have to save that for another time.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: We're just running out of time for this podcast.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: I don't like to go much over 23 to 25 minutes, but I just wanted you to understand.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: About these vaccines I have a great deal of concern.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: These are some of the questions that my mom's asked me.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Let me go through another question or two before I run out of time here.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Another question was how do we boost our children's immune system, and I'm going to give you two resources that I think will be useful for you.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: One is With the Wind, by Dr Paul Thomas, whom I've referenced multiple times on my program.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: He discusses boosting your children's immune system with vitamins and repurposed drugs and also the children's health defense with Robert F Kennedy Jr, whom President Trump just now appointed to be the head of Health and Human Services.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: He has a podcast and a YouTube.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: I don't think transcripts are available, but both of these men have programming where they talk about how to boost your children's immune system.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Dr Thomas is a featured speaker on children's health defense every week and I would reference those programs for you.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: The other question that I have is this is there a detox for pediatric immunizations?
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: And, as far as I know, there's not a detox for pediatric immunizations.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: There are multiple detox programs or regimens for COVID vaccine, but none that I'm aware of for regular pediatric vaccines.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: And then the last question I want to address is what if my child wants to go to college later or go in the military, but they've never been immunized?
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: The first thing I would say is this is there are a lot of online colleges and universities that your child can attend, where they will never need an immunization.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Going in the military is different, but by the time your child is 18 to 20 years of age, if they require multiple immunizations, your child's immune system and neurologic system will be fully developed and they will be able to tolerate multiple vaccines without any damage to their immune system or their neurologic system.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: That's a far cry different than giving 76 immunizations to their immature immune system and neurologic system as a child, and so waiting until they're much older and more mature is a much safer proposition.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: If you need to get a religious or conscientious objection to go into college, I would refer you to a website called HealthyAmericancom which has an entire section devoted to how to write a religious or conscience objection to vaccines, and I've referred multiple patients to that website.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: They've used the recommendations there.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: It is a First Amendment.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Right of yours to declare a conscientious objection and if you use their recommendations, you will be successful.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: My patients have been successful using their recommendations at the college level, university level and even in the military on occasion level, and even in the military on occasion.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: So I would recommend thehealthyamericancom.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Thehealthyamericancom.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: It's a useful resource.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: All right, I'm running out of time and I hope you enjoyed this and I'll try to add other immunizations we'll talk about at a later date.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: I want to reference you to Vax Fax by Paul Thomas MD.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Some of this information comes directly from his book.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: It's an excellent resource and I think you ought to invest in his book.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: I highly recommend it and I'm out of time.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Sorry, I have to leave you.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: We'll be back next week.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: You're listening to More Than Medicine.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: I'm your host, Dr Robert Jackson, and we'll be back next week.
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  Dr. Robert Jackson: Between now and then, may the Lord bless you real good.
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