Latest / INSIGHT TODAY / Why 'Operation Economic Outcast' against Iran is all about RUSSIA and CHINA
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- 0:00Speaker 1: All right. Thank you. We are watching market reaction after
- 0:03Speaker 1: the Treasury Secretary announces sanctions, very powerful sanctions on Iran.
- 0:08Speaker 1: The Dow right now off of ties up 60 points,
- 0:11Speaker 1: but also looking at a drop in oil prices, a
- 0:14Speaker 1: pretty significant one, down a couple percent in today's session.
- 0:16Speaker 1: Let's bring our economic panel, Robert Wolf and Steve Moore.
- 0:19Speaker 1: Welcome to both of you. Thank you for being here.
- 0:21Speaker 1: First up, this is top five, guys. These are the
- 0:25Speaker 1: secondary sanctions announced by Besson just moments ago.
- 0:28Speaker 2: Listen. We are giving everyone the opportunity to remedy bad behavior.
- 0:35Speaker 2: Why would I want to blow up the global financial system?
- 0:39Speaker 2: We believe that it is important to level set and
- 0:42Speaker 2: give people a cure period, but they should know that
- 0:45Speaker 2: that will move very quickly and that we are serious.
- 0:49Speaker 2: Secondary sanctions are a very powerful tool. If people do
- 0:54Speaker 2: not want to meet our expectations, then we expect and
- 0:58Speaker 2: they should expect that they will leave the dollar system.
- 1:01Speaker 1: So they're going after Iran's connections, Steve, all over the world.
- 1:07Speaker 1: They want Iran to face complete global isolation. From what
- 1:12Speaker 1: you just heard, will this work?
- 1:15Speaker 2: Well, the markets like it, don't they?
- 1:17Speaker 3: At least so far, it's good news that the oil
- 1:19Speaker 3: price fell when Scott Besson was talking about this. Look,
- 1:23Speaker 3: I think it can work. It depends a lot on
- 1:25Speaker 3: whether our allies follow our lead here. But I think
- 1:29Speaker 3: they will. And listen, I like what Scott Besson said.
- 1:33Speaker 3: You have two options here. Either you're cooperative, you act
- 1:36Speaker 3: like a civilized nation, or you're going to feel you're
- 1:40Speaker 3: going to be completely isolated economically. And that's exactly what
- 1:44Speaker 3: Trump and his team should be saying right now.
- 1:47Speaker 1: As always, when sanctions are announced, you ask the question,
- 1:50Speaker 1: can they enforce this? Right, Robert? This is the zero
- 1:54Speaker 1: leakage approach described by Secretary Besson a moment ago.
- 1:58Speaker 2: Treasury has mapped every node, every facilitator, and every network
- 2:04Speaker 2: that Iran has used to smuggle oil and evade sanctions.
- 2:08Speaker 2: Beginning today, the actions of Treasury and other agencies will
- 2:13Speaker 2: tighten the noose and block every potential source of revenue
- 2:17Speaker 2: that funds the IRGC and the evil Iranian regime. We
- 2:22Speaker 2: are enforcing a zero leakage approach.
- 2:25Speaker 1: Your reaction, Robert?
- 2:27Speaker 4: You know, Sandra, although I've been critical in their approach
- 2:30Speaker 4: with this Iran war, this I support fully because Iran's
- 2:35Speaker 4: already been hammered economically.
- 2:38Speaker 5: Inflation's up at 85%, 90%. But when you start going
- 2:42Speaker 5: after secondary sanctions, you're going after all their trading partners.
- 2:46Speaker 5: You're going after the way that they can find wiggle room. Unfortunately,
- 2:50Speaker 5: in 2004, when I was at UBS— We circumvented secondary
- 2:55Speaker 5: sanctions on Iran, Libya, and Cuba. We had to pay
- 2:59Speaker 5: a big fine. I didn't become president of UBS until 2006,
- 3:01Speaker 5: so it's before I was running it. But listen, you
- 3:06Speaker 5: have to make sure there's zero wiggle room. What I
- 3:10Speaker 5: think Treasury Secretary Besset needs to do better is be
- 3:14Speaker 5: clear to China and Chinese banks, who really is the
- 3:17Speaker 5: key to all of this working, that they are going
- 3:21Speaker 5: to keep a tight, tight eye on them, and they're
- 3:25Speaker 5: gonna make sure that if there's any shenanigans going on,
- 3:29Speaker 5: that they're going to pay the price. Because really, at
- 3:31Speaker 5: the end of the day, this is all about China
- 3:33Speaker 5: and Russia, because Turkey and Pakistan and the other trading partners,
- 3:37Speaker 5: they're not going to do anything against the U.S. OK,
- 3:40Speaker 5: but this is all about Russia and China. I think
- 3:41Speaker 5: he has to be firmer on that.
- 3:43Speaker 1: Yeah, Steve, that's a good point. This was the moment
- 3:45Speaker 1: when Treasury Secretary Besant talked about exactly that and warned
- 3:49Speaker 1: any country that is foolish enough to help Iran. Listen here.
- 3:56Speaker 2: Any entity that facilitates money laundering on behalf of Iran
- 4:01Speaker 2: will be removed from the US dollar system. The clock
- 4:06Speaker 2: just started ticking. These measures broaden secondary sanctions risk for
- 4:11Speaker 2: anyone foolish enough to continue conducting business with this regime
- 4:17Speaker 2: and will accelerate the speed with which we pursue them.
- 4:21Speaker 1: So Steve, this wasn't just a warning to Iran. This
- 4:23Speaker 1: was a message to the world.
- 4:27Speaker 3: Yeah, look, the friend of our enemy is our enemy.
- 4:29Speaker 3: And that's what what Secretary Besant is saying here. You know,
- 4:33Speaker 3: Robert is exactly right that one of the key players
- 4:36Speaker 3: here is China. And I was just looking at these
- 4:39Speaker 3: statistics this morning, Sandra, you know, above 80 percent of
- 4:44Speaker 3: the oil that comes out of the Persian Gulf. And
- 4:47Speaker 3: through the Strait of Hormuz, you know where it goes?
- 4:49Speaker 3: It goes to China, India, and Asia. So the reason
- 4:53Speaker 3: I bring that up, Sandra, is it's in China's own
- 4:56Speaker 3: economic interest to get this resolved so they can have
- 5:00Speaker 3: low energy prices. But, of course, we also know the
- 5:03Speaker 3: China government will do everything they can to try to
- 5:07Speaker 3: wreak havoc on the Trump administration.
- 5:10Speaker 1: Got it. Appreciate both of you joining us on the
- 5:12Speaker 1: breaking news that we got from the Treasury just moments ago.
- 5:15Speaker 1: Thank you both, Steve, Robert.