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Know the Enemy: Louisville · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Music. Music and welcome back to the
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  Boundary Corner podcast with my partners, Brian Siegler, Shelton
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  Moss and Jonathan Talley. I'm in Curtis Wilson and as
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  Lexington. Great spot to look at for a
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  weekend getaway. Definitely next spring, summer,
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  fall. Lot of great fun things to do up
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  there near 1 of Shelton's favorite towns.
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  There is a Mcadoo's in Lexington, everybody, just so
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  you know. Boom, Curtis, you said Mcadoo's
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  in front of Shelton Moss. What are you?
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  I'm going to keep saying it to every time Shelton's on here,
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  I'm going to keep mentioning it. Owned by a proud hokey.
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  Fishing, kayaking, anything you want to do outdoor wise right
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  out the back door. Great place to stay.
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  on the Maury at their Instagram page.
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  Welcome back Shelton, welcome back Tally.
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  We're it's all of us again. Woo Hoo you.
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  Know from A2 for to a four for. Yeah, good to be back, I guess.
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  What the? Hell, you call that thing.
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  I guess it's an awesome night for me.
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  Last time I had some some brief distractions watching watching
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  football. Some people in the comments on
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  me know about it, but happy to be back after, especially after
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  a big a big Hokies win. We'll get into it.
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  But it awesome game, not just the win, but the fact that there
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  was so much awesome stuff that happened, like the shirtless
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  dudes in the stands, you know, the, the Super cold weather had
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  a bunch of my friends go and, you know, send me a bunch of fun
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  pictures. So it's just fun to get a win.
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  And obviously had the the the Twitter war leading up to it,
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  the Calgary them trolling the memes.
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  That was awesome too. So just a great, great, fun week
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  of college football. Definitely fun week Cali.
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  Yeah, no, I was going to say me and Sheldon probably should just
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  drop off and let you and Brian run it because that seems to be
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  a winning, be a winning success there.
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  Maybe we need to stay into that mindset of us just watching and
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  let y'all do it if that's going to help us get a win or
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  something. Oh hey, maybe.
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  We can. Just let y'all do it so I don't.
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  Believe. It yeah definitely definitely a
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  good a good day, a good a good game good week good win had a
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  lot going on over this way. Wife just got home she had
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  surgery yesterday so yeah she got home today has been moving
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  around good. She had to have a bulging disc
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  fixed in her neck back area. So a little bit scary to think
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  about but you know prayerfully, thankfully the Lord took care of
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  everything and everything went good.
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  So she is back home and moving around actually with the to
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  Walmart to do her walking because apparently she has to
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  get steps in so she doesn't get stiff.
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  So she went to Walmart to get that done.
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  So anyway great win by the Hokies.
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  Glad to be back. How y'all feeling?
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  I'm feeling good, but I'm going to just dress some real quick
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  because I do not want it to be 6000 comments over here.
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  Yes, we see Twitter people saying James Franklin.
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  We don't know yet, y'all, until the person is introduced in
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  Merriman in front of the Hokie background.
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  He's holding a jersey with a helmet.
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  We don't know. I don't believe, OK.
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  And that's when I believe in the day that happens, we will be
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  here, we will talk about it. Because three weeks ago all of
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  us sat here, all of us gave names, we gave our input on a
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  bunch of guys. Y'all came and gave input on a
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  bunch of guys. But until it happens, we don't
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  know. So put that to rest.
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  Because we acknowledge, we, we, we see the.
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  We see. We see the rumblings.
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  We. See rumblings?
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  Don't listen, Don't listen to Curtis.
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  Keep them coming in the chat. I want to see everything, James.
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  Franklin, James. Franklin, James.
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  Franklin, matter of fact, just put whatever names you want to
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  put in there, say Nick Saban in the comments.
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  It don't matter. We need to just keep the
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  positive energy going. We got a wind going, we got good
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  vibes happening. We don't know nothing.
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  We don't know if he's if, if Franklin's coming.
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  We're here in the rumblings. Hopefully it's true and Derek is
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  bad. Y'all, if you don't know, I
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  found. That out last.
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  How was that? That Derek is bad.
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  Yeah. So anyway, welcome back.
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  Welcome back. How you feeling?
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  Man, it's been a been a busy start to the week man.
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  But it's going good on this end, man.
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  Looking forward to a little little Halloween weekend coming
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  up here. Yes, Halloween on a Friday.
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  Halloween on a Friday. God Almighty, good God almighty,
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  got to go make some witches brew espresso martinis pumpkin beer
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  I'm going to get. Well.
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  No, I can't because I have to catch baseball at 9:00 the next
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  morning. So it's going to be horrible,
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  horrible. You can.
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  You can do a little bit. You can do a little bit.
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  I can do a little bit, I just can't let it go overboard
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  because if not, I'm going to be out there in like 41° cold
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  weather and a bunch of nine year olds screaming the dugout.
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  All right, y'all have already hit it.
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  Sheldon and Tally always talk about it.
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  We going to tell the truth Tuesday about a hell of a win on
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  Friday night. I mean, what went well is, first
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  of all, before we say anything, we want another damn game, which
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  I did not foresee any more wins this season, so they shit on me
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  on Friday night. Once we got past Wake, I was
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  worried about this game, but this is the only other one.
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  I said well we got a fighting chance.
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  I didn't like our chances, but I figured it would be close.
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  It was close. Obviously 2 overtimes so it was
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  a fun ride though. It was a fun ride.
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  So the other thing to talk about it and tally, you've been
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  mentioning this a couple times is there was effectively no quit
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  in this. There has not been any quit in
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  this team for about the last month and Friday night.
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  I mean, first of all, A2 score deficit, we jump out to the 10
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  nothing lead and we give up 20 straight and I was like, Oh my
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  God, it's it's fucking Vanderbilt again.
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  We're going to lose this game 40 to 10.
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  And then Shelton's favorite statistic, Shelton I'm.
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  Not following buddy. You're not following.
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  What else did I thought Montgomery do 1.
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  Oh, yeah, Yeah. Oh, I got you.
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  Yeah, I got you. Yeah, sorry, that's whatever I
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  had. But yeah.
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  Have at it. What else went well for y'all on
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  Friday night? But beyond the no quit thing, I
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  think the adjustments that we saw in especially on the
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  offensive side and really we kind of came out out the gate
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  running the football a whole lot more and we stuck with it for
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  four quarters. I feel like in the, you know,
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  the second quarter, we kind of hit a little bit of a of a spot
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  there where their offense kind of figured out what we were
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  doing on defense a little bit. And we had a couple bad series
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  where we, you know, had some 3 and outs there.
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  But I mean, for the most part, we were committed to the running
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  game. We said we're going to run this
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  ball down their throat and they did that for four quarters.
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  I couldn't stop it. I mean, running the ball seemed
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  to work. I've said it multiple times, I
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  would probably follow Georgia Tech's playbook and what they do
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  with Haynes King with Karen drones, and it seemed like
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  that's what they did on Friday. Stop trying to make him a NFL
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  pocket passer because that's not what he does.
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  But when you use him, how he plays and how he's designed, it
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  works out because nobody on Kyle's defense was stopping him.
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  He got tackled a lot. Somebody on Cal's team had about
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  20 tackles, but he wasn't stopping the run.
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  He was just in the way. He ain't getting them to the
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  ground. But great win.
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  Like you said, no, no, quit. Excuse me, continuing the fight.
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  No quit in the coaching staff. I see the coaches on the
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  sidelines jumping up. I see Phillip Montgomery in the
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  refs face when they're making horrible calls back-to-back to
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  back-to-back. Some of it was just asinine,
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  like I'll probably use that in another segment to talk about
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  the refs. That was pitiful.
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  But no quit from any kid that's out there on the field.
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  And that is that's a good sign. That's something that you want
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  to see. Sean, let us up with some run
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  data, man, because you got the analytical stuff.
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  How good was it last night? It, well, it was frankly insane.
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  I'm, I'm actually compiling some of the season numbers on, on
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  Terry and Stewart and Hawkins here in a second.
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  But just to talk about this game specifically, you look at the
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  overall numbers. I mean, yards for play with 6.3
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  yards per rush was over 8 and I was kind of giving up some of
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  the stuff on PFF. You look at Tech success running
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  outside the tackles, they averaged 8.6 yards per carry and
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  also had two, both of their two rushing touchdowns on outside
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  the tackle, runs inside the tackle is that it was actually
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  still pretty good, but not quite as good when they're going
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  outside. And obviously, you know, we'll
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  talk about it, but they just, you know, kind of similarly kept
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  spamming that, you know, split zone read and and certain
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  variations of that look over and over again, you know, and I
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  think if we were if we were Cal fans or if we were watching it,
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  our defense perform like that, I think we'd all be kind of
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  ripping our hair out because Cal just could not stop it.
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  They had no answer for any of that stuff.
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  Can I say what I thought real quick, Sean, before you get it,
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  The Syracuse play last year. Everybody remember the game?
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  No, the Rutgers play. The Rutgers?
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  Yeah, the Rutgers play New York, New Jersey.
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  Same difference. Go ahead, Sheldon, back to you.
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  Yeah, so I think I think the Golden Bears have have to go
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  back to drawing board in that one.
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  But still, Marcellus Hawkins 8 yards per carry and Tech as a
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  team forced 20 missed tackles, which is just an insane number
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  for a single game. Stewart had nine missed tackles
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  for us. Tawkins had eight.
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  Drones had three. So you know, we'll we'll get to
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  the season numbers here pretty shortly, but it is just insane
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  what this group of running backs has been able to do when they've
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  had, you know, some some time and space to, you know, make
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  plays, you know, because they're they're seeing numbers are just
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  incredible at this point. So certainly got to give Elijah
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  Brooks his flowers for the job that he's doing, bringing this
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  guys in and and developing like he has.
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  Brian hit on that split zone because Shelton message Brian
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  like I think it felt like it was 6 O clock Saturday morning and
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  like Brian where they run a split zone and you were like.
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  They, they were running, they were calling that over and over
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  and they were doing a good job with mixing in some, some keeps
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  with, with drones, really just getting outside the tackle and
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  doing, doing his thing there. And it was really they were,
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  they were putting them in conflict with that play all
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  night. I think it was just a
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  combination of, you know, tight end going across the formation,
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  guys just not passing off the assignments that the the way
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  they probably should it it kind of puts, you know, neutralizes
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  you luave to a point where, you know, if you if you do give it,
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  he's probably going to be there to make a play.
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  But what we blocked it pretty well most of the time.
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  And when when Jones got outside, he made them pay for it big
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  time. Kelly anything else on the run
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  game Friday night? No, man, it was just good to
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  see. I mean, I think when we figured
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  out that it was working and didn't go away from it, it was
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  awesome because I think we were like running the ball great.
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  And then we decided, oh, let's let Kyron throw it.
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  He throws the interception, man, just keep running.
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  If they're not going to stop you from running it, just run.
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  So I think once we figured that out after that series, like we
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  may have run the same play like 9 times in a row.
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  Continue to run. It may not be.
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  Yeah, it may not be the sexy thing to do, but if it's putting
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  points on the board and it's holding the ball, keeping the
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  other offense off the field, man, I love it.
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  Let's keep doing it so. What is it?
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  Was it at one point there was the touchdown Dr. That was 9
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  plays, but it was at one point it was 18 consecutive runs and
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  it was something like it was like 6 a pop on 18 consecutive
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  runs, which is just nuts. It was to close regulation I
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  believe. Like pretty much it was run,
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  run, run, run run one after the other. 100% yeah.
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  And and I know shelving through the the the data up there about
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  their yards per carry and roughly Hawkins 21 rushes,
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  drones 21 rushes, bullied 14 rushes.
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  It was a good enough balance too right night there you go Justin
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  had the number hit Justin 19 consecutive rushes, which is
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  that's. Crazy.
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  That's wild. And, and, and, and The thing is,
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  the way we were running it, the passes we did hit were
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  significant. Like the one to Takihi.
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  I mean, it was not the best pass, but because we've been
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  running the ball so good, like it was no one where he could
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  still make the catch, so you know.
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  In in the one day overturned on Spencer.
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  Yeah. The one day overturned on
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  Spencer. He was pretty much as because of
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  that run, because of that. Yeah.
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  He's you're open, you know, so I mean, you, that's what we are as
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  a team. I feel, I wish again, I wish
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  that we would have been doing that all along.
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  But you know, it is what it is. It was definitely good to see,
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  definitely good to see a a win Friday night.
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  And also I'm going to say this too, what what for me because
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  people know how I am about Sandman, right?
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  If we going to do Sandman, if we do it in a close game in the
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  fourth quarter or going from third quarter to fourth quarter
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  and it's like that, I'm cool with it.
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  Fuck doing it at the beginning of the game, like don't I'm
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  tired because my thing isn't really the the entrance.
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  I think it's just how people idolize it and it doesn't mean
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  anything. But when we went, you know, when
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  they was playing it, when they're trying to drive late in
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  the 4th or going into overtime, whatever, it was like that was
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  awesome to see in here. You know what I'm saying?
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  Like that's college football. So I'm like, bro, if you don't
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  use it like that, just use it like that all the time.
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  Hell, if we have been doing that on the 17 games that probably
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  lost by 1 score, maybe we'd have won three or four of them.
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  Play that shit when it's close in the third and fourth quarter.
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  That's what I want to see, the jumping around.
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  So it's crazy, man. I love.
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  I love it. It was great.
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  It was great to see all. Right.
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  Let's put real to some other stuff that went good.
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  Let's talk about the defense rough into the first half, but
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  the way they came out in the second-half and then in general
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  how they shut down the run because I fully expected
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  Kendrick Raffy out to have a game and they shut him down.
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  They shut him down. So any anybody, anything that
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  stuck out to y'all while watching a game or Shelton?
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  Any data from Friday night? I mean, they they their their
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  EPA per rush for Cal expected points added was in the 8th
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  percentile for all games this year.
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  So that's really, I mean, you know, bottom 10% rushing
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  performance all season. That's that's pretty good.
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  So the run run defense is really good.
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  So I mean, they, you know, they kind of dominated that
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  statistically. I mean, I don't know, you know
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  what the, you know, the schematics of it was.
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  But, you know, I, I also thought, to be fair, I, I
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  thought Cal, Cal's receivers were, you know, pretty bad, like
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  dropping passes left and right. Oh, that was.
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  Horrible. So yeah.
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  Except the Jesus. Except the Jesus, that little
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  son of a bitch. When they when they did catch
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  it, when they when they did catch it, they was moving and
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  grooving and that tight end mini or whatever his name was, like I
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  feel like he was open all game, but they dropped so many passes.
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  So thank you, Cal Calgorithm, whatever you call it yourself.
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  Thank you. They know what you're doing.
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  The the drops were crazy because they had a probably five or six
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  other first downs just on drops. I mean, it was, it was one of
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  those things where like you couldn't really get mad at the
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  quarterback. The quarterback was doing pretty
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  much everything you had to do to win that game.
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  And it seemed like between their defense not adjusting to take
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  away what we were doing and then their receivers just not making
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  plays in, in crunch time, you know, made it close, kept us in
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  it. We got back in it, fought back
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  and we're we're thankfully able to come out on top in overtime
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  after a couple scares there. 100% And is the defensive line
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  good the. The defensive tackles are good.
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  Well. Kumar Copeland is good because
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  they're putting him everywhere. Well-being Bell seems like he's
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  been doing some stuff too though, right?
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  If he could get somebody to the ground like he's, he's in there
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  disruptive. He's disruptive a lot.
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  He got somebody to the ground and they called it a.
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  Yeah, unfortunately. He called the fumble and they
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  called it a rough in the passer that was that was an unexpected.
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  Thing in my life, I've never seen a rough in the passer when
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  the guy still got the ball. Yeah, he still had the ball.
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  That's not rough in the passer. That was the stupidest thing
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  I've ever seen in my life and it was it really screwed us in the
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  situation because if that doesn't happen, it's like 4th
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  from what, 1213 yard line? Yeah, something like that.
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  I. Don't think they get it but but
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  I love to see Kamari Copeland because he ate Friday night.
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  Especially his last sack, the one when they put him on the
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  edge like out of the 9 technique and he just bullied through that
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  tackle. Just bullied through that tackle
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  and got his sack and I love it and I love it and I hate it
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  because you start seeing some fingerprints of Cevkis of like
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  what he will do with guys. It's a little bit too late and
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  it's unfortunate, but Kamari was unbelievable.
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  But yeah, is the D line good? Is it good or not?
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  I mean the. Defensive line is.
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  Definitely the one area that I wasn't worried about at the
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  start of the year. Obviously we're a little bit
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  lighter, a few pass rushers than what we started with, but I feel
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  like the defensive tackles have played really well throughout
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  the year that that that's been a spot that has been kind of a
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  standout for me. When we look at the defense,
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  they've had the least attrition, so that helps obviously.
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  But I think that, you know, that position group has definitely
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  been the strongest, the deepest and made the most plays.
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  I'm going to go off the script here just a little bit right
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  quick, Curtis, but I'm going to toss it to you first.
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  And we don't have to talk about who it is.
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  Anybody new coach comes in, you see the film, you see the you
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  see the tape, you see what we have to offer, right?
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  Who are you? Who was your first?
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  Who was your first calls to keep on the staff and on the roster?
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  I don't care how many you name 102038 a month, but I'm just
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  saying first calls to keep on the staff and on the roster.
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  First call on the first call on the staff and it's what he's
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  done this year because he did lose some depth is I'm going to
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  probably say JC because they're playing at a high level and it's
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  different this year and we know how he recruit.
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  He finds guys right that can just play and can make chaos.
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  As far as the first player. And if it's more than one, it
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  don't have to be 1, I'm just. Like I like what you did, like
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  that first call, give me a call. Give me Copeland because he's
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  got another year of eligibility. You see how passionate he is and
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  you saw, you've seen at times how dominant he can be.
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  And I know that's that both on the defensive side of the ball,
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  but that's my first two, JC and keep those two guys together
• 23:15
  because I think you can build around that.
• 23:19
  And JC got the proof, right? Look what APR did.
• 23:23
  Look what happened this year. All right, who's next?
• 23:26
  Which one are y'all? I'm going.
• 23:27
  To throw at the, I'm going to throw at the shell next.
• 23:29
  He looks like he's ready and and and rearing to go.
• 23:34
  Yes, I am. I mean, I think, I think Matt
• 23:36
  Morris, probably my #1 because I think, you know, he, we know he
• 23:39
  has the coaching credentials. And I just think that's the
• 23:41
  position where Vt really needs some continuity because they've
• 23:44
  had what I think 4 online coaches over the last four
• 23:48
  years. Yeah, maybe that would.
• 23:50
  Be mice. 4 / 5. Yeah, although the.
• 23:55
  One of those came in midway through the spring, so.
• 23:59
  Yeah. So I mean, you just you have to
• 24:03
  start building some continuity there.
• 24:05
  So I I would definitely try to keep him.
• 24:07
  Elijah Brooks, like I said, you know, again, we're going to talk
• 24:09
  about numbers here soon, but the production he's gotten from the
• 24:12
  running backs is just insane. Like I think that's the spot
• 24:14
  where. You know.
• 24:16
  People, I mean people look at our wide receiver recruiting,
• 24:19
  you know, and spend a little bit underwhelming on the production
• 24:21
  side, development side. So we can have a, you know,
• 24:23
  debate about that. But there's no question that the
• 24:25
  production has been a lead from the running backroom over
• 24:28
  multiple years with different players, which which suggests
• 24:31
  that it's a coaching, it's a testament to coaching.
• 24:34
  So those are probably the first two I'd start with.
• 24:36
  He came to coach Brian. Yeah, you got to give me Matt
• 24:40
  Moore as well for the same reasons as Sheldon.
• 24:44
  I think continuity is a big a big thing for especially for an
• 24:48
  offensive line as it develops. And I mean it to that point.
• 24:53
  I mean, I think you got to keep if you're if you're talking
• 24:55
  about players, I think you got to start with the trenches, you
• 25:00
  know, bring back a guy like Altooner, keep your center
• 25:02
  intact. He's shown some promise this
• 25:07
  year. Play pretty well overall, you
• 25:10
  know, had the yeah, the false snap there against Cal, but I
• 25:15
  mean, he's played pretty well, especially for a guy getting his
• 25:17
  first year starting. So keep the continuity there.
• 25:21
  Obviously there's a lot of other guys you call I like, I like
• 25:23
  Brooks, I like JC Price. Mods would probably be the next
• 25:28
  one on the list if we had to go 4 deep there.
• 25:31
  Still not convinced that the production problem is is a minds
• 25:36
  problem necessarily. I think it's kind of been a
• 25:40
  mismatch of scheme and just not always getting the ball where it
• 25:45
  needs to go all the time. So yeah, that that that's where
• 25:50
  I'm going first. And like you said, I don't think
• 25:53
  there's a calling Copeland will never be a bad decision as well.
• 25:57
  So so keep it focused on the interior.
• 25:59
  They also Altoona and Copeland will be the two guys that I'm
• 26:01
  calling. First player was.
• 26:05
  No, I just no man, I was thinking about this or have been
• 26:09
  thinking about it. And to sum it all up, because
• 26:12
  it's not never one, right? I asked you a trick question,
• 26:14
  but you think about mines Brooks JC, somebody else named
• 26:23
  somebody. So mines Brooks JC and it was
• 26:26
  somebody else, Matt Moore, right.
• 26:28
  So you think about those coaches, if you do retain them
• 26:31
  and what they have started to build.
• 26:34
  If I can only pick one, I would definitely say Brooks just
• 26:38
  because like, it's insane to me what he is doing with these
• 26:42
  running backs. You know, I know the line is a
• 26:45
  big like the line has to open up a hole for him, right?
• 26:50
  You can't have a quarterback and a running back that runs for
• 26:53
  that much yards without having that offensive line.
• 26:56
  So Matt Moore doing a great job, but Brooks just has a great
• 27:02
  offer talent. And I feel like because we've
• 27:05
  been so bad and we have, you know, not lived up to our
• 27:11
  potential as a team, we have really diminished what the
• 27:15
  running backs that we've had over the last couple of years
• 27:18
  look like. You know what I'm saying?
• 27:19
  Our performances, we don't even say what the full season looks
• 27:22
  like for the guys we have this year, but we go back to Tooton
• 27:25
  last year. Virginia Tech fans are going to
• 27:28
  look back at what Tooten did when he was at Virginia Tech and
• 27:31
  Black man, he was a top five running back.
• 27:33
  I think when we did the show, a lot of people had him in there
• 27:37
  with all the greats. Like that is crazy for him to
• 27:40
  come from where he came from to be able to do what he did.
• 27:42
  But then also you just go on the players I'm I'm talking to, like
• 27:49
  you said, Copeland, I'm talking to the Reddish.
• 27:51
  I'm talking to most of the offensive lineman.
• 27:56
  When you talk about like Altoona, great, great young, you
• 28:01
  know, player that looks like he has a lot of development that he
• 28:04
  could do, but holds his own and and and bully Ann Hawkins.
• 28:11
  You know, the both both of them have eligibility left, right?
• 28:15
  Both of them have one. You have eligibility left.
• 28:16
  Am I not mistaken? Stewart does not.
• 28:19
  Hawkins may have a COVID year left.
• 28:23
  He has one left. Yeah.
• 28:25
  He has one. Yeah.
• 28:27
  Yeah. Hawkins does.
• 28:28
  So bullies done, Yeah? Bully's done.
• 28:32
  I'm talking to Hawkins. Hey, man, we need you in here.
• 28:35
  Jeff Overton, you get healthy. We need you too, buddy.
• 28:38
  All right, so we need, we need the running backs.
• 28:44
  Sheldon, that's a perfect setup because Italians up there
• 28:47
  talking about Hawkins in the running backroom.
• 28:49
  You you got some good stuff to share on that tonight.
• 28:52
  Yeah, well, it's been really impressive.
• 28:54
  Kind of a 1-2 punch. First off, with Hawkins overall
• 28:58
  running grade, just running specifically 86.1 ranks 15th in
• 29:03
  FBS. And then you look at the yards
• 29:05
  after contact numbers, just incredible.
• 29:07
  Hawkins ranks 22nd, 4.72 after contact per rush.
• 29:11
  And then Stewart is third in the country, 5.71.
• 29:15
  So Tech has 2 running backs. They rank top 25 in the country
• 29:19
  in yards after contact and again, these are, you know, two
• 29:23
  first first year guys, one came from AG51, came from FCS.
• 29:28
  So the fact that you know, Brooks is able to pull these
• 29:31
  guys in here and just get instant productivity is really
• 29:33
  impressive. And they also both rank top 10
• 29:35
  and elusiveness rating, which PFF tracks basically like
• 29:38
  isolates the explosive plays and accredited to the running back.
• 29:42
  So I mean, no matter which way to slice it, it's been it's just
• 29:45
  been incredible. And I don't think it's a
• 29:47
  situation like last year where I feel like, you know, Tootin kind
• 29:49
  of had to be Superman like every play.
• 29:52
  I feel like the O lines played a little bit better recently.
• 29:55
  I think they're, you know, they're open up some more, some
• 29:57
  more holes and he's not, you know, being swallowed up in the
• 30:00
  backfield. So it's been, it's been a sight
• 30:02
  to see for sure. Good deal.
• 30:05
  That's some good stats right to that The the the bully being 3rd
• 30:08
  and like 20th he goes back. How you going to beat Louisville
• 30:12
  this weekend? Run the damn ball and just run
• 30:14
  the shit out. Of it, you got to hold it.
• 30:17
  No, I ain't, Curtis. I'll go ahead, Brian.
• 30:19
  I'm sorry. I was just going to talk about
• 30:22
  the the running back situation in in the offensive line.
• 30:25
  Like one of the things I'm noticing, you know, you see the
• 30:28
  broken tackles and things like that.
• 30:29
  But the one thing that's been better and improved relative to
• 30:32
  last year and what Tune was dealing with is that there's not
• 30:35
  as much contact at or behind a lot of scrimmage for that first
• 30:40
  contact. A lot of the first contacts is
• 30:42
  coming after positive yards have already been gained and then
• 30:45
  you're getting kind of that that extra cream on top of that.
• 30:48
  So that's been I think a positive improvement across the
• 30:51
  board for the running game this year.
• 30:53
  And kind of why I think a lot of us were frustrated that we
• 30:55
  weren't necessarily leaning on that as much as we could have.
• 30:58
  And hopefully that we see that after this by there's been kind
• 31:01
  of a little bit of a of a change in philosophy and how they want
• 31:04
  to approach the offense and that, you know, Cal's just a
• 31:07
  sign of the things to come for what the offense is going to do
• 31:10
  from a from a skiing perspective.
• 31:14
  So yeah, I was going to say again, thank you to the chat for
• 31:16
  just, you know, we see your comments thrown in now.
• 31:19
  Keep them coming. I want I can't even remember who
• 31:21
  put it up. It's somewhere in there.
• 31:22
  But somebody think we missed what somebody said third, like
• 31:27
  how big has that been to have Jared Ferguson on the as the
• 31:32
  strength and conditioning? Like, we talk about these guys
• 31:35
  breaking tackles. We talk about the.
• 31:38
  Looking good in the fourth, not running out of gas.
• 31:41
  Looking looking good in the fourth, not running out of gas
• 31:43
  like Jared Ferguson being the man in charge, him being on the
• 31:49
  sideline, you know, hyping the team up to, you know what I'm
• 31:53
  saying, that being shown on camera is like a breath of fresh
• 31:56
  air. So I can definitely see a
• 31:59
  difference in strength and condition just going into those
• 32:02
  fourth quarters and stuff like that because I'm already we're
• 32:05
  losing. It's A1 score game.
• 32:08
  We ain't winning it. Yeah, we done.
• 32:10
  We ain't going to make the game win and play.
• 32:11
  But they keep playing tough, man.
• 32:14
  You know, even in the games that we have not won, you know, I
• 32:17
  keep seeing people play hard and, you know, making tackles
• 32:20
  and and, you know, just looking the part more than we did in the
• 32:25
  past year. So Ferguson, don't know where
• 32:29
  he's going to end up, don't know what's going to happen with the
• 32:30
  coach research, but good luck to him.
• 32:33
  Would love to hang him. Hang around, Yeah.
• 32:38
  There's only a couple more things about the game I want to
• 32:40
  hit before we flip over, talk Louisville for a little bit and
• 32:43
  a few other things. But y'all special team shit
• 32:50
  guides me off my fucking knocker.
• 32:53
  And you know what? The block kick.
• 32:55
  OK, you know what sometimes people just make plates.
• 33:00
  Sometimes people just make plates.
• 33:02
  Block kicks happen. But when Kent Selman, that ball
• 33:07
  like this man's own, that's just like I'm sitting here doing this
• 33:13
  like first of all, a why'd he do it?
• 33:17
  That's a little bit on him. But secondly, Steve Holt, why
• 33:21
  aren't you telling them? Listen, if that ball's getting
• 33:23
  to the end zone, just let it go. Be be like frozen.
• 33:28
  And my daughter who watches it at least once a week or puts on
• 33:31
  the the the the costumes. Let it go, let the ball go.
• 33:38
  I'm going to tell Stu. I'm going to tell Stu like my
• 33:40
  boy did when he they was fishing at his son's pond.
• 33:44
  Hit the road, dude. This ain't no state property.
• 33:47
  This is private property. He got to go.
• 33:52
  Man, that's all he's doing too. Like that's all that's all he's
• 33:57
  doing right now. It's not like he's got
• 33:59
  distractions elsewhere that he's worried about it.
• 34:01
  Like all you're doing is special teams, bro.
• 34:04
  Yeah, get it right. Rough, rough Shelton, any
• 34:07
  comments on either of those place probably or anything?
• 34:11
  You got said it all. All right.
• 34:14
  The the last piece I got to say is we usually we, we kind of hit
• 34:18
  everything, the good, the bad, what we didn't expect because
• 34:22
  nobody expected a rough in the past to happen when the
• 34:24
  quarterback still has the ball ever.
• 34:26
  But the the split at which we had Friday night, run, pass
• 34:31
  split, I think it was Sean, you got it up how many times we run
• 34:35
  the ball. Give me I got to look up and
• 34:38
  give me a SEC. But anyway, Sean's going to give
• 34:42
  it to us. But that run, pass split and and
• 34:46
  you've been hitting the tally saying we've got to do this,
• 34:49
  whatever that split was Friday night to have any semblance in
• 34:54
  the next four games, any semblance of a chance.
• 34:57
  It's got to be like that. But it's also got to be real.
• 35:02
  Oh, Lord, but it's also got to be you're only down 10 points.
• 35:12
  Monty didn't panic. He stayed within the game plan,
• 35:16
  right? He stayed within the game plan.
• 35:19
  Said we won't still # the ball. What was the splits, Shelton?
• 35:23
  It was 55 rushes to. Let's see here, 18 passes.
• 35:29
  So but surprisingly enough, I mean, Kyrie was actually weirdly
• 35:33
  efficient like he only completed 50% of his passes, but he had
• 35:35
  three touchdowns and a really high yards per attempt.
• 35:38
  So it's kind of like, you know, super, super efficient all.
• 35:42
  Right, hold on, hold on. I I need everyone in the room to
• 35:45
  address this. Hey, no disrespect, no
• 35:54
  disrespect to Montgomery. I think the dude has a great
• 35:58
  opportunity to go coach like North Texas or something like
• 36:02
  that. He going, we need him.
• 36:04
  To be the head coach here, go to go anywhere.
• 36:06
  I don't care if he wants to be a head coach, he's going to find
• 36:10
  somewhere. It just don't need to be here.
• 36:12
  We let. Me tell you where we can I tell
• 36:17
  you where He's on land and probably have to do a good job.
• 36:20
  Tulane. Where?
• 36:21
  Tulane you think about what they.
• 36:24
  Do. Is that right?
• 36:26
  No, he was a. Tulsa.
• 36:28
  Too late in them both. All right, let's keep it rolling
• 36:32
  and let's talk about the game. Well, let's talk about this
• 36:37
  first. Brian Kelly got fired.
• 36:41
  Yep. Good, hey.
• 36:44
  Me too. But you know what?
• 36:47
  Somebody I read somebody said he checked out last year.
• 36:50
  You know what I would do too. I got joked with a guy at work
• 36:53
  today. Check out two of my buyout was
• 36:56
  $60 million. I ain't doing shit this year.
• 37:00
  What do you want to do? You want to fire me and give you
• 37:03
  all my? Money, man.
• 37:08
  I can't. I can't imagine.
• 37:10
  I can't imagine being in the situation where if I win I get
• 37:16
  paid 10 million and if I lose I get paid 60 million. 60 million.
• 37:22
  Dollars, but it is. So let let me ask you all of the
• 37:26
  big three, what's your order? What what's the best job?
• 37:29
  Because it's a big three like I'm a college football fan.
• 37:33
  It's a big three. It's Florida.
• 37:34
  It's LSU. It's Penn State.
• 37:37
  Tally. What's 123?
• 37:42
  Man, I don't even think about all the money and talent and all
• 37:47
  that, but I'm just telling you, if I'm a head coach, I'm doing
• 37:50
  my best to stay away from LSU and I'm doing my best to stay
• 37:53
  away from the SEC. If I want to, like if I if I
• 37:59
  just want to, it's going to be hard there too.
• 38:02
  But if I just want to make as much money as I can and maybe be
• 38:07
  on some shows, sure. But when people will talk, and
• 38:11
  I'm going to just say this, people were saying James
• 38:13
  Franklin needs to go to Florida. Or I said the worst thing for a
• 38:17
  James Franklin would be to go to a SEC school.
• 38:21
  It'd be horrible for him. The reason I say that is because
• 38:26
  it's a gauntlet and they're already going to be on him
• 38:29
  because he just came from like he's a, he got fired in the
• 38:32
  middle of the year. He's not a up and coming coach.
• 38:35
  He got fired in the middle of the year.
• 38:37
  So he's going to come in and knows the SEC fans are going to
• 38:40
  have expectations of you win now or we want you gone.
• 38:43
  You got to think Coach O won a national championship.
• 38:46
  He was fired like the next season or the next two seasons.
• 38:50
  Same with Gene Chiswick, like you're not getting time to do
• 38:53
  anything. Brian Kelly, 34 and 14, even
• 38:57
  though he's an idiot and I really dislike him, like, if you
• 39:01
  ain't, if you ain't getting it done quickly for us, you're out
• 39:04
  of here. You know, we won't even go into
• 39:06
  the whole there's just not a lot of black head coaches in the SEC
• 39:11
  in the past. But if you start thinking about
• 39:13
  the black head coaches in the SEC, where are they now?
• 39:16
  I'll wait. Not coaching.
• 39:18
  You ain't hearing from them, Joker Phillips.
• 39:22
  You know, of course Chrome is gone.
• 39:25
  But you can say Charlie Strong, he was at Texas, never going to
• 39:30
  be a head coach again. I'm just saying if I'm somebody
• 39:33
  like, if I'm somebody like James Franklin, there's no way I'm
• 39:36
  looking at those jobs. And he does like he can coach at
• 39:39
  any place he wants to, But I would be looking at somewhere
• 39:43
  more like a, you know, Virginia Tech, UCLA, something like that.
• 39:47
  But out of those three jobs, me, I'm going to say I would go Penn
• 39:51
  State, LSU in Florida because I don't even know who can go and
• 39:56
  win in Florida. Like Florida's been snake been
• 39:59
  since, you know, the the the years of of champions.
• 40:02
  Well, they they had Dan Mullen. He was doing really good.
• 40:05
  He had one bad season. They asked him one bad season.
• 40:08
  He got out Shell. What's your?
• 40:11
  So are we talking about like the the big, the big 5 is it?
• 40:14
  Well, no, I'm saying the top three because I think in my
• 40:16
  opinion, LSU, Penn State in Florida or head and shoulders
• 40:20
  above. Yeah.
• 40:21
  You know national championships won in the playoffs.
• 40:25
  Great recruiting bases look 123 for you.
• 40:31
  I'd say so. Florida's up there, OK State.
• 40:37
  OK. So it's kind of weird because I
• 40:39
  feel like they're a very comparable program to Vt and
• 40:41
  since if they've only had success with the one head coach
• 40:44
  and you know, that's kind of like a, you know, mid level
• 40:46
  program that, you know, kind of has to develop well.
• 40:48
  And, you know, they've got some decent funding, but maybe not as
• 40:50
  much as they had in the past. So I definitely think Vt is more
• 40:53
  attractive than Arkansas just based on like, you know, ability
• 40:56
  to compete in the CFP for the CFP, you know, spending relative
• 41:02
  to conference geography, recruiting base.
• 41:05
  I I think Vt has got a lot going for compared to compared to
• 41:08
  those couple jobs. So I mean, a lot of it depends
• 41:12
  like on, you know, first of all the money and I think the
• 41:13
  money's probably there. And second of all, does the head
• 41:16
  coach like the administration that he works with now this is
• 41:20
  going to get into the whole another kind of worms of like,
• 41:22
  you know, what's going on with Wit and the Vt administration?
• 41:26
  I mean, I would imagine he's done by the end of the academic
• 41:29
  year, but nothing's happened so far.
• 41:33
  And like what? So like, if you're a coach,
• 41:35
  like, you know, you walk in there and say like, OK, we're
• 41:38
  going to, you know, do you have assurances that they're going to
• 41:40
  get rid of wit, you know, and if the and if so, like, well, OK,
• 41:45
  who's going to replace him? Like you don't know, Like I, I,
• 41:47
  I don't know if Vt is really maximizing their ability to hire
• 41:53
  a quality head coach when they don't know who the next AD is
• 41:56
  going to be. So that would be, that'd be my
• 41:58
  concern. I don't think it's as much
• 41:59
  infrastructure as you know, and, and ability to win.
• 42:02
  I think it's more so like, what's this administration going
• 42:05
  to look like? Bron.
• 42:08
  Yeah, I, I, I'm in agreement with with with that too.
• 42:11
  And I think like when you look at the the three, you know, I,
• 42:16
  I, I'd actually probably put put them Florida, LSU, Penn State.
• 42:24
  But I mean, I think Florida and LSU have, have their own pluses
• 42:27
  and minuses. They all crazy based on where
• 42:31
  they're recruiting, the fan bases, expectations, all that.
• 42:35
  I think there's a lot of problems that you get with
• 42:39
  taking a job at like an LSU or a Florida that you don't
• 42:42
  necessarily get with some of these other schools.
• 42:45
  And I think it's a little bit harder to win, even though it's
• 42:49
  it's still easy relative to I think the rest of the country.
• 42:52
  But it's it's a little bit harder to win at a Florida or at
• 42:54
  LSU than it maybe is for a Texas school or Georgia or Alabama.
• 43:02
  So, yeah, I think there's some inherent hills that you got to
• 43:08
  kind of climb over as those two schools.
• 43:12
  But then, you know, Penn State is still going to have to beat
• 43:15
  Ohio State every year. And as long as Ohio State is
• 43:19
  still playing the way they are, Penn State's going to always be
• 43:21
  playing second fiddle there. So that that's why that job's a
• 43:25
  little bit lower, I think on the totem pole than the rest of
• 43:27
  them. Well, now you got, now you got
• 43:30
  Indiana coming in now acting like they're juggernauts too.
• 43:33
  Yeah. It's true.
• 43:36
  So are you thinking fiddle? Third fiddle. 4th fiddle.
• 43:40
  Maybe 4th fiddle of Michigan or in USC.
• 43:44
  Yeah, don't. Don't forget about USC.
• 43:47
  USC and really fucking around me they're they're they're
• 43:49
  definitely I think second tier there, but they're definitely
• 43:51
  looking a little bit more like. Better and better.
• 43:54
  Ready to ready to compete a little bit?
• 43:57
  See, the reason I'm going to put Penn State always one is the
• 44:00
  other two. Penn State might give you a few
• 44:02
  years. Florida and LSU.
• 44:05
  I mean, like you said, Brian Kelly was 20 games over 500.
• 44:08
  It was just like by 20 games over 500.
• 44:12
  You said 34 and 14, right? 20 games over 500.
• 44:17
  If Brent probably was 28 games over 500 in his fourth year with
• 44:20
  us, we'd lose our damn mind 20 games over.
• 44:23
  We'd be happy big and shit. Yeah, I just said that.
• 44:28
  But they but they expect to win a national title like every
• 44:30
  other year so. Part.
• 44:33
  Of the game and to be fair, like LSU, like if you were to, I've
• 44:36
  said this before, if you were to design A school that was like
• 44:40
  the maximal had like every maximal advantage and that you
• 44:44
  could it would be LSU like location resources, you know,
• 44:49
  conference history, except, I mean, you know, but that's just
• 44:52
  college football. Yeah, cool shit.
• 44:55
  They've got so much they they have more or than any other
• 44:57
  program. It's crazy.
• 44:59
  Yeah, and guess what? All of of the other programs we
• 45:03
  talked about, I probably could have gotten to LSU out of high
• 45:06
  school without an issue being exactly known for their academic
• 45:10
  standards. Yeah.
• 45:14
  The other two we mentioned actually have some.
• 45:16
  All right, well, let's get into it.
• 45:18
  We do have a game this weekend. 3:00 Hey Tally, we on your
• 45:21
  favorite network? We on The CW this weekend.
• 45:26
  Yeah, and I'll tell them what we're going here ain't.
• 45:29
  No telling for real. We do have Louisville, and
• 45:33
  Louisville is one of the hottest teams in the country right now.
• 45:38
  6:00 and 1:00 big win over Miami two weekends ago.
• 45:42
  And I mean they crushed Boston College.
• 45:44
  I think they had 300. I think they went 325 on the
• 45:47
  ground on Saturday against Boston College.
• 45:51
  So you know, lot lot of fun to be had.
• 45:55
  And let's take a look at a couple of the players on their
• 45:58
  team that y'all better know these names because I feel like
• 46:02
  the first guy I'm going to mention who's Chris Bell is
• 46:06
  going to light us up. Not a highly recruited, I
• 46:09
  shouldn't say highly recruited like a mid three star guy when
• 46:12
  he came out of school at a Where is Yazoo City Ms. Galley?
• 46:18
  It's a country place in Mississippi, somebody you
• 46:21
  probably don't want to hit. He's probably strong as a ox.
• 46:25
  He's he's 62, he's like two O 5. He is currently 11th in the
• 46:30
  country interceptions in receiving yards.
• 46:32
  He's got 48 receptions, 687, six touchdowns and I mean, I just
• 46:43
  like no one has secondary a little bit banged up.
• 46:46
  I think he's going to absolutely crush us.
• 46:50
  Brian Shelton, Dally, anything you'll got on him.
• 46:53
  Oh, he's absolutely going to crush us.
• 46:58
  Yeah, it's, it's really not. The question is going to be, you
• 47:04
  know, what, what's he going to go for?
• 47:07
  What's the top? And I'm really, I'm really
• 47:10
  concerned. I'm, I'm hoping that the pass
• 47:11
  rush, we can at least get what we saw against Cal, but I think
• 47:18
  it's going to be a long game for us unfortunately.
• 47:22
  Shout out to All right, show them anything on him.
• 47:30
  No, I mean. It's really good.
• 47:34
  Yeah, Yeah. I mean just they've got they've
• 47:37
  got a lot of, you know, experience and beef on that,
• 47:40
  that D line. So yeah, give.
• 47:43
  Me a tough match D line the other the other couple guys to
• 47:46
  worry about. You got Moss, who was AUSC guy.
• 47:49
  He's balling. I mean, you know what, Jeff
• 47:54
  Braun might need the Penn State higher.
• 47:56
  He might leave Louisville because he can bring any damn
• 47:59
  quarterback in and they just do good.
• 48:02
  I mean, Moss was cast off out of USC.
• 48:04
  Well, he did not play bad. He's not played great this year.
• 48:08
  But it just seems like with Jeff Brahm, it's like every year, new
• 48:12
  new, new quarterback, same results, competitive team, good
• 48:16
  offense. Well, it's it, you know, don't
• 48:19
  discount Bryant on Brahm at the AT OC there as well, because he
• 48:22
  does a good job of getting the quarterback settled in running
• 48:27
  that offense, leaning on the strengths of what he has on the
• 48:29
  roster. You know, I mean they, they
• 48:34
  really got guys that can get the job done at, at, at all three
• 48:38
  phases there. And Isaac Brown, you guys do you
• 48:42
  want to talk about? Next, I I think about Isaac
• 48:44
  Brown, but I mean, you know, you've already, you know, talked
• 48:47
  a little bit about Chris Bell. I mean that's a big dude, man
• 48:54
  and playing wide receiver that that size man.
• 49:00
  Well, like Carson actually playing receiver.
• 49:03
  He's he's going to be easy. He's a big dude, 4/4 speed.
• 49:09
  It's going to be a long game trying to cover him with with
• 49:12
  how depleted our secondary is. So I guess that I'm hoping that
• 49:15
  we can able to get some pressure on them.
• 49:17
  So is there any chance from what you've looked at like pass
• 49:22
  protection laws? Do they have a wink link?
• 49:26
  I mean, I don't think I wouldn't.
• 49:28
  I don't know if they this, I have like a a wink, a a weak
• 49:31
  link. I will say that the thing that
• 49:33
  sticks out to me is that they seem to have their best graders
• 49:37
  be at the most important positions.
• 49:38
  So obviously you've got your skill guys, you know, Chris
• 49:41
  Bell, Isaac Brown, Miller Moss, all really highly graded.
• 49:44
  And then you've got, you know, your center, Pete Nigro, who's
• 49:46
  at 69 1/2. He's pretty, pretty low ranked
• 49:49
  and then guard Lance Robinson also up there too.
• 49:52
  So I mean the core of their team, interior O lines really,
• 49:55
  really good. So that's, you know, that's kind
• 49:56
  of their their bread and butter and that's kind of how I have to
• 49:58
  build your team successfully all.
• 50:02
  Right, there's some I want to say.
• 50:04
  Look at this. That's Quest talking crazy.
• 50:10
  Tell him, don't tell him. Don't bet no money on that.
• 50:14
  Don't bet the farm on that. But you know, the other thing we
• 50:18
  talked about Brown, we hit bell sheltered ransom stuff off.
• 50:22
  And this is what scares the bejesus out of you is if you
• 50:25
  take a look at what Cajon Brown, who's their backup running back
• 50:30
  did on Saturday against BC, he had 10 rushes for basically 95
• 50:34
  yards and a touchdown, 100 and almost 130 from scrimmage with a
• 50:39
  huge catch. I guess that's where it's just
• 50:43
  like, Jesus, like when you have that much from all over the
• 50:48
  place and legitimately, you know, Brahms got a good passing
• 50:51
  offense, but when you again, it's it was 319 is what they ran
• 50:56
  on. But here's the sicker part.
• 50:58
  Sheldon, can you pull that up? They were 319 on 25 rushes.
• 51:05
  Y'all 319 on 25 rushes. We did 357 on 50 something.
• 51:11
  That was great. They they was busting big run
• 51:16
  after big run dawg. They thought explosive plays,
• 51:20
  man, that's explosive plays. Oh, give, give Shelton a second
• 51:23
  here. Give Shelton a second.
• 51:24
  He is going to find how many explosive plays they had on
• 51:27
  Saturday. Can we just keep it under like?
• 51:30
  I mean, Isaac Brown is is is somebody that's going to give us
• 51:33
  some problems too, just because it's how versatile he is, Manny,
• 51:35
  because he can run it, he can catch it, he can do stuff in
• 51:38
  special teams. He's going to be a little bit
• 51:39
  all over the place, I think. Any any luck yet Shelton?
• 51:45
  No, I'm, I'm trying to look that up.
• 51:49
  But I will say though, interestingly, their offense
• 51:51
  actually doesn't generate a a huge amount of explosive plays.
• 51:54
  I mean, they've got, you know, 19 plays of 30 plus yards, you
• 51:59
  know, so that certainly counts for something.
• 52:00
  But overall they're actually they're not a huge they're not
• 52:03
  overly reliant on big plays for what I can tell.
• 52:05
  So I mean, without, you know, necessarily like knowing other
• 52:08
  stats, I would have guessed they're much more of like kind
• 52:10
  of a, you know, ground and pound high success, right type of team
• 52:13
  that's, you know, kind of turn out very consistent drives.
• 52:15
  They're just not, you know, that's not their their bread and
• 52:17
  butter necessarily is the big plays.
• 52:19
  Got it. All right, let's go to Anomaly
• 52:22
  then. Yeah, Super Anomaly.
• 52:24
  All right, flip over because you said you really want to talk
• 52:27
  about their defensive line. What?
• 52:28
  What you got? Oh me.
• 52:33
  Yeah, you the one that you said 05 minutes ago, you were like.
• 52:37
  Sorry, bud. Yeah, yeah, we'll go, We'll go.
• 52:39
  Yeah. So the so the big one is Jordan
• 52:42
  Gerrad. I hope I'm not butchering that
• 52:43
  pronunciation. So he is their best run
• 52:46
  defender. Overall grade is over an 80 and
• 52:49
  as well as his rush defense grade also had an 80.
• 52:51
  So he's a fifth year guy, three-year transfer from Florida
• 52:54
  International. So spent three years there now
• 52:56
  in his second year with the program.
• 52:57
  So he's been in college football for five years.
• 53:00
  Obviously bring some experience there.
• 53:02
  And then their best pass rusher is Clev Lubin, and he is a 91
• 53:10
  overall, which is a really good 92 pass rush.
• 53:13
  So he's also a transfer from Coastal Carolina.
• 53:15
  So, you know, clearly Brahm has been able to have a lot of
• 53:19
  success with transfers in the portal, which isn't something
• 53:23
  you always see, but he's, he's done a really good job,
• 53:25
  especially bringing some of those G5 guys up.
• 53:26
  So really good evaluation and development on the part of that
• 53:30
  staff. They've got some some some real
• 53:32
  beef on that, that dip, that defensive line and.
• 53:36
  Correct me if I'm wrong, we've almost got Lubin right last year
• 53:40
  in the portal. I know we were in the mix for
• 53:45
  for Lubin, yeah. Yeah, OK.
• 53:47
  In in Lubin, he he is a team leader along with W Banner
• 53:52
  should be W Bailey. They got 4 sacks apiece.
• 53:55
  Both are edges, both 6. Lubin's like 63240, Bailey's
• 54:00
  like 652-5260. So I mean, you know, not great
• 54:11
  just because like where we are, like what's going on with our
• 54:16
  team, but and just keep playing. Couple other guys to mention and
• 54:21
  I and I want to figure out what Antonio Watts does.
• 54:25
  Brian, did you get enough tape on him to figure out what
• 54:28
  they're doing? Because Watts, he's been labeled
• 54:31
  as ADB just about everywhere, but basically he is on pace this
• 54:36
  year to kind of shatter what he did last year when it comes to
• 54:41
  tackles. So when I see that, it's got to
• 54:44
  be a little something different. Yeah, I mean, he's he's a box
• 54:47
  safety. He's going to be a little bit of
• 54:48
  a hybrid guy. He's going to play really close
• 54:50
  to the line of scrimmage, kind of blow up things, kind of that
• 54:53
  spill area from a run perspective.
• 54:55
  But he's also got a pretty good coverage skills, definitely can
• 55:01
  can lay the lumber on you. So he's a little bit all over
• 55:04
  the place. He's definitely the guy that
• 55:06
  kind of makes the back end of that defense run just because of
• 55:09
  the versatility that he brings to the table on that defense.
• 55:16
  What about Hutchinson because he's the other guy that again
• 55:19
  listed as DB second on the team in tackles.
• 55:22
  Got to pick bunch of past deflections.
• 55:26
  Did you get anything on him? Yeah, I mean, he's a he's a guy
• 55:30
  that also is a little bit more, I'd say definitely more oriented
• 55:36
  in the in the passing game in the coverage standpoint.
• 55:39
  But he's he's also somebody that will get up in there and make
• 55:41
  some tackles as well. But he's more of a true, true
• 55:44
  safety. Whereas you know, when you look
• 55:48
  at a guy like, like Watts, he's truly more of a more of a
• 55:51
  hybrid, hybrid safety that's, that's playing really up in the
• 55:55
  box on a regular basis. All right, so you got kind of
• 56:00
  five names, Sheldon, any other piece of data to throw on us
• 56:05
  before we start talking about, you know, what, what, what,
• 56:08
  what, what Marcus says, Quest says and all happened, which is
• 56:11
  we're going to pull the the big shock this weekend.
• 56:14
  I mean, not really man. Like they're they're 20th
• 56:17
  overall in defensive SP plus, so they're just pretty solid on
• 56:21
  both sides of the ball, 32nd on offense.
• 56:23
  So again, they just you know, they from what I can tell, like
• 56:26
  they're not like elite at anyone specific thing.
• 56:29
  They're just pretty well-rounded, well balanced.
• 56:31
  So, you know, you just, you get not a lot of holes in this team
• 56:34
  and that's why they're, you know, 6:00 and 1:00.
• 56:38
  In traditional metric, show it too.
• 56:39
  They're 14th in the country in total defense.
• 56:42
  When? We beat Louisville.
• 56:44
  We beat Louisville this weekend. We got to send Marcus Boundary
• 56:49
  Corner Cup or something. I mean, there's got to be some
• 56:52
  kind of, we got to give him some kind of.
• 56:55
  He called his shot early, so. He always we got.
• 56:57
  To send him something. Bro, if he Babe Ruth, if he say
• 57:01
  clock this, we going to win. We got to send him something,
• 57:04
  man. I don't know what it's going to
• 57:05
  be, but I don't see it happening.
• 57:07
  But we, you know, it is what it is.
• 57:10
  All right, Well, if you don't. If we win this game, then you
• 57:13
  can maybe put me back on board to buying, making a bowl game.
• 57:18
  Yeah, because you still got a, you know, very beatable looking
• 57:24
  UVA and you still got FSU on the schedule.
• 57:26
  Well, well, well. Tally, let's let's get into it.
• 57:31
  This man, the keys like what? What do you think?
• 57:35
  Like you saw you seen Louisville play a few times.
• 57:39
  Yeah. What?
• 57:39
  What's the key? What do we have to do?
• 57:42
  I mean, you got to look how you ended the game at Cal.
• 57:47
  You got to start the game now. And it's, it's hard to do, you
• 57:50
  know what I'm saying? But you got to have that same
• 57:52
  game plan. And when I say that, I mean, you
• 57:54
  got to run the ball. You got to make them choose
• 57:59
  who's going to hurt them running the ball between Kyron Hawkins
• 58:05
  and Bully. Connor's not going to be able to
• 58:08
  drop back and throw the ball all over the field.
• 58:13
  Just like Justin said, we got to possess the ball.
• 58:15
  We got to try to hold the ball some.
• 58:17
  We got to have some long drives, sustain some drives.
• 58:20
  Even if we only get 3 out of it because we know we like to do in
• 58:23
  the red zone. We can't just three and out, get
• 58:26
  in the ball, 3 and out, get in the ball.
• 58:27
  Kind of how we get in that second quarter.
• 58:29
  What we're doing with Kyle, that's going to be the worst
• 58:33
  thing we can do because this team, if we 3 and 9 give them
• 58:37
  the ball, they're going to make us pay.
• 58:38
  Then you're going to look up and it's going to be 24 to zero, 24
• 58:42
  to 7. Then they're going to score some
• 58:44
  more and then it's going to get out of hand.
• 58:46
  So we've got to control that ball and we have to run the ball
• 58:49
  to be able to control it. John Brown, Whoever wants to go
• 58:56
  next, John. I'll let you.
• 58:59
  Go. Oh, let me go.
• 59:00
  OK, Yeah. I mean, I don't really have a
• 59:03
  ton to add to that. I was trying to look up their
• 59:08
  their sack totals. Yeah, kind of the fact.
• 59:11
  So yeah, I mean, I guess the big thing is just like how well can
• 59:14
  Vt run the ball? Like you know, like Tally said,
• 59:18
  you know, we are not going to have a ton of success in the
• 59:20
  traditional drop back passing game.
• 59:24
  So, you know, onus is going to be in the online to win up some
• 59:26
  holes and running backs to continue kind of doing their
• 59:29
  thing. I do feel somewhat more
• 59:32
  confident, as Curtis previously alluded to, that we do have a
• 59:34
  head coach who seems to be, you know, have a basic level of
• 59:38
  competence in, you know, winning close games and you know, you're
• 59:42
  going to be involved in a lot of close games this league.
• 59:44
  So if you can at least make it a coin flip, that's good.
• 59:48
  You know it's better than you know, having a you know O 91
• 59:50
  winning percentage, maybe the worst close game coach ever in
• 59:54
  last 25 years of college football, but nonetheless
• 59:58
  beside. The point?
• 1:00:00
  We will hopefully, hopefully, if it's a tight game, we can manage
• 1:00:03
  to pull this one out. I I love Sheldon just beating
• 1:00:08
  the dead horse there. That's that's, that's so
• 1:00:11
  amazing. I'm going to I'm going to go
• 1:00:15
  here. So it's a couple things for me.
• 1:00:17
  So obviously I think everybody's kind of talked about it.
• 1:00:20
  We got to run the football. We got to run it successfully.
• 1:00:22
  We got to control town possession, but we've got to be
• 1:00:25
  good in the red zone and finishing drives and getting 7,
• 1:00:28
  not 3 because Louisville is going to be able to score the
• 1:00:32
  football. So if you're not it, it, it
• 1:00:36
  doesn't matter how much time you're taking off the clock if
• 1:00:39
  you're not getting 7 when you get down there.
• 1:00:42
  So we got to be efficient getting in the red zone and and
• 1:00:44
  scoring the football when we get there.
• 1:00:49
  Oh, it's my turn now. It's you, yeah.
• 1:00:53
  Well, I want to just beat the old dead horse.
• 1:00:55
  I've been beaten a few weeks here and that's going to be Reds
• 1:00:58
  on defense because guess what, you went the.
• 1:01:01
  Other way? We're still not that good at
• 1:01:05
  Reds on defense, we're still dead last.
• 1:01:09
  There have been 32 possessions. Teams are scoring 1616
• 1:01:16
  touchdowns. Excuse me, 26 touchdowns and or
• 1:01:20
  excuse me 1623 touchdowns, 9 field goals.
• 1:01:24
  I'm going to eventually get the shit right.
• 1:01:25
  We are dead last. We are dead last.
• 1:01:28
  We have given up the most threats on scores of anybody in
• 1:01:33
  the country. If you get down there, stop.
• 1:01:36
  Just one stop. And the sad part is we did get a
• 1:01:39
  stop at the 25 on Friday night. Unfortunately they couldn't get
• 1:01:43
  a couple yards so we can get out of our bats.
• 1:01:47
  Thank thankfully though in the the first overtime they started
• 1:01:51
  at the 25. And they scored, so they didn't
• 1:01:54
  have the 33rd. Score.
• 1:01:56
  Yeah, but red zone, red zone defense, I mean, it, it's been
• 1:02:02
  the biggest challenge all year. And the other thing it's it's
• 1:02:06
  going to sound the only game they lost this year to UVA, they
• 1:02:10
  had multiple turnovers and you know, it was amazing.
• 1:02:14
  We won the game. We did not turn the ball over it
• 1:02:17
  for Cal. They turned it over on us and
• 1:02:19
  took a sheer 3 off the board, which could have been the game.
• 1:02:23
  So I mean, I know that's basic talk, but it's like if you get
• 1:02:26
  into, it's just like if they get down there, because the one
• 1:02:29
  thing about Brahm, he does get hyper aggressive when he gets in
• 1:02:33
  the red zone. They do not like to kick field
• 1:02:35
  goals. So if you get that 4th and three
• 1:02:38
  and they're going for it because they just want to try to bury
• 1:02:41
  us, then stop them there, make them pay.
• 1:02:49
  Is anybody picking us besides Marcus?
• 1:02:56
  Anybody in the chat? I'm gonna, I'm gonna go ahead.
• 1:02:58
  I'll, I'll put, I'll put it out there.
• 1:02:59
  I'm not picking us to win. I am picking us to keep it
• 1:03:03
  probably closer than a lot of people think.
• 1:03:06
  Let me look at the line real quick.
• 1:03:07
  I got it on the phone. Yeah, throw the line in there
• 1:03:09
  while I'm while I'm talking. I think it's tip and 1/2 right?
• 1:03:12
  Did he go down? Oh shit, I think that it's a
• 1:03:17
  touchdown game. I think.
• 1:03:18
  I think we lose this one like 3220530124 somewhere in that
• 1:03:23
  range all. Right, Shelton.
• 1:03:31
  I had 3120 Louisville all right. He's saying they're going to
• 1:03:34
  cover the hook. Yeah, playing with the hook
• 1:03:36
  there, playing with the danger zone tally. 3521 similar to what
• 1:03:45
  the Georgia Tech game look like. It's what I feel that I know
• 1:03:48
  we're not going to give up. I feel like we'll, you know, try
• 1:03:50
  to make it a game, give me just a little bit of hope, but not
• 1:03:54
  really be able to really do it. Because it all it's all going to
• 1:04:01
  come down to like the first half, right?
• 1:04:05
  Because the Georgia Tech game after the first quarter, it was
• 1:04:09
  basically an even game. But when you go down 18 in the
• 1:04:12
  first quarter, like, OK, this game is over.
• 1:04:15
  Like we do not have the the horsepower to get that caught
• 1:04:19
  back up. I'm I'm, I'm about where Shelton
• 1:04:24
  is. I'll go 3424, like 10 points.
• 1:04:28
  I think we'll fight all the way through.
• 1:04:32
  But yeah, I, I just, I can't do it at that time.
• 1:04:35
  Can somebody tell that there's an issue when you do this?
• 1:04:40
  That's just numbers. Who's winning the game?
• 1:04:46
  Who's winning the game? I'm.
• 1:04:48
  Going to assume you're you're you're taking.
• 1:04:49
  Oh yeah, we we know who we say is winning the game and it
• 1:04:53
  ain't. What do you think?
• 1:04:59
  Just just just to put this out here, I want Chris, you sticking
• 1:05:02
  with that? You sticking with that?
• 1:05:04
  Let us know. All righty, let's get ahead and
• 1:05:09
  make some predictions for big screeners.
• 1:05:15
  Brian had to do the walk of shame last Sunday because Brian
• 1:05:20
  didn't win a damn game last. Week that was a bad, bad
• 1:05:24
  counting for me, for it was funny.
• 1:05:28
  It was already bad. And then like the North Dakota
• 1:05:31
  State game like that, that being a complete blowout.
• 1:05:35
  Wow, I was. Like OK.
• 1:05:37
  All right. So that even even the one I
• 1:05:39
  thought was I was like, Oh well, at least this one's going to.
• 1:05:41
  It'll at least make me look like I know what I'm talking about.
• 1:05:43
  And no, it did not. Not at all.
• 1:05:48
  So everybody else went two and two last week 500 that with us
• 1:05:52
  and you'd have been OK let's. Get to I'm back in the cellar.
• 1:05:58
  Curtis passed me again my. Whole game tally, tally tally
• 1:06:03
  creeping back towards 500. He might get there for the end
• 1:06:06
  of the season. What this is telling us, Curtis,
• 1:06:08
  though, is don't bet with us. Don't bet with us.
• 1:06:11
  All of. These.
• 1:06:13
  Although you know what the the the craziest thing there was a
• 1:06:16
  few weeks ago where the hook got every single one of us twice.
• 1:06:22
  Like the hook, it was like the Notre Dame UFC week.
• 1:06:26
  It was like 10 1/2. They lost by 11.
• 1:06:28
  I had them there and like Tally had somebody who was like 6 1/2.
• 1:06:31
  They won by a touchdown and it was like a late touchdown.
• 1:06:34
  It was just like mine. All righty.
• 1:06:38
  So what's the first game? Brian, all right here.
• 1:06:45
  We go, it's yours, it's my, my, my game is the first game and
• 1:06:47
  I'm picking a very interesting one here for several reason.
• 1:06:52
  Memphis Rice. Rice is a 13 1/2 point dog at
• 1:06:55
  home. Obviously Ron Silverfield, who
• 1:06:58
  we've all been trying to keep our own.
• 1:07:00
  That's kind of Shelton, one of his big guys that he likes
• 1:07:03
  potentially taking over as an ex Hokies coach.
• 1:07:05
  But I want to focus just a little bit on the coach of Rice
• 1:07:11
  for a couple reasons. First of all, if you don't know
• 1:07:13
  who the coach of Rice is, of Rice is, his name is Scott Abel.
• 1:07:18
  And me and Brian have a little bit of connection to Scott Abel.
• 1:07:23
  Brian's late stepbrother Todd played with Scott at Longwood
• 1:07:27
  University when they went to the D2 College World Series back in
• 1:07:31
  the 90s. Scott Abel was actually in my
• 1:07:34
  fraternity. And if you look at Scott Abel,
• 1:07:37
  you ever, you ever want to talk about literally coming from the
• 1:07:42
  ground level, the ground level of coaching to get up to
• 1:07:47
  Division One, Scott Abel's it. Scott Able coached at Albemarle,
• 1:07:53
  Weston, Albemarle, Alta Vista, Liberty, Amherst County.
• 1:07:59
  Only Albemarle of those schools, Brian are like it's 5A up here.
• 1:08:04
  They're only, that's the only big school he coached at for
• 1:08:07
  basically the 1st 15 years of his coaching career.
• 1:08:11
  He then went to Washington and Lee as the OC, then the head
• 1:08:14
  coach, then Davison and then Rice.
• 1:08:17
  And so it's cool to see this because it still happens.
• 1:08:25
  And and even though I'm not going to pick with him because I
• 1:08:30
  think still feeling them going to blow them off the doors, the
• 1:08:32
  doors off of them is still to see cool stories like this and
• 1:08:36
  someone that you know again, he's he's he's significantly
• 1:08:40
  older than me, but was in my fraternity in college connection
• 1:08:44
  with Brian with his dad were playing baseball with him back
• 1:08:46
  in the early 1990s. But as far as pit goes, Scott, I
• 1:08:52
  hope you keep doing what you're doing, man.
• 1:08:54
  But Memphis by 21 Sheldon. Yes, I am taking Memphis.
• 1:09:04
  God bless Rice, man. It's a tough, it's a tough job,
• 1:09:06
  but I think Memphis is a wagon. Beating USF last week, kind of
• 1:09:12
  taking control of that of that conference, and I love, I love
• 1:09:14
  the job that Silverfield's doing.
• 1:09:15
  So rolling with the Tigers. Tally.
• 1:09:22
  I got to go with benefits, man. I mean, Curtis gave us a cool
• 1:09:27
  story and ain't going to help him on the field.
• 1:09:31
  Even I admit that cool story and not going to help him, but he is
• 1:09:34
  4/4 in his first year down there.
• 1:09:37
  There you go. That's pretty impressive.
• 1:09:42
  Yeah, I'm riding with Memphis as well of the, you know, college
• 1:09:47
  coaches I've got some tenuous line of connection with.
• 1:09:51
  I'm I'm going to go with the the one that actually coached me on
• 1:09:53
  this one. So and that's no knock to Abel.
• 1:09:59
  I think him taking a little bit of a winding path is is great
• 1:10:04
  going from D3 after coaching high school football for so, so,
• 1:10:08
  so long and then going to D1 non scholarship and then jumping up
• 1:10:14
  to to Rice. Now I think that's a that's a
• 1:10:16
  pretty crazy path to get there at 55 S Hats off to him, but
• 1:10:21
  it's going to be the the Tigers. All righty, who's up next in
• 1:10:26
  their game? Tally.
• 1:10:29
  It's the tally, it's the tally. It's it's.
• 1:10:32
  It's the beamer bowl part. Keep it going, man.
• 1:10:38
  I got to see what he's going to do every week.
• 1:10:40
  Once I started that that gauntlet that he was going
• 1:10:43
  through, I got to see it through.
• 1:10:45
  I actually, I'm going to take South Carolina in this game.
• 1:10:52
  I just feel like I watched him last week against Alabama and I
• 1:10:55
  feel like the little bit of the curse Virginia Tech has on them.
• 1:11:01
  Shane has inherited that some things that are going to go
• 1:11:05
  wrong is going to go wrong for him.
• 1:11:08
  He'll make it close, but still going to lose.
• 1:11:11
  So I would say probably Ole Miss wins this game by 10 points all.
• 1:11:18
  Right. Tally, I'm right there with you.
• 1:11:22
  I think this is going to be one of those games where South
• 1:11:25
  Carolina hangs around, hangs around, hangs around, but can't
• 1:11:28
  get it done at the end. You know, we saw it a little bit
• 1:11:31
  against Alabama. We've seen it a couple other
• 1:11:33
  times this year. I think we're going to see it
• 1:11:34
  again. So I think it could be 8 or 9
• 1:11:38
  point win by Ole Miss, but I think South Carolina will do
• 1:11:41
  enough to cover that 12 1/2. Well, hold on Sheldon.
• 1:11:48
  I'm first. I got it.
• 1:11:49
  I got it. Hold on.
• 1:11:52
  I do have to say this regardless, and I know whether
• 1:11:55
  you like Shane, hate Shane and whatnot.
• 1:11:58
  Tally his kids are still fighting their asses for me.
• 1:12:01
  They they had Bama on the roads last weekend and it crumbled
• 1:12:06
  late unfortunately. So, So what I hate to hear,
• 1:12:09
  though, no disrespect to them, but what I hate to hear about
• 1:12:13
  Shane and they put I got to quit having this malice in my heart
• 1:12:17
  toward him just because I feel like he has so much malice in
• 1:12:21
  his heart, heart toward Virginia Tech.
• 1:12:24
  He put so much on that first game, you know, and I get it.
• 1:12:28
  It was emotional. That's where his dad coached.
• 1:12:30
  You know, you got to talk about his kids and hanging, hanging
• 1:12:34
  the game ball to his dad and we talked about his kids fighting.
• 1:12:38
  They're not going through adversity.
• 1:12:40
  They have everything that's supposed to, they were supposed
• 1:12:43
  to be a, a playoff team. I mean, they said that they had
• 1:12:50
  the number one quarterback, They said they had the number one
• 1:12:52
  defender. They said they had the number
• 1:12:54
  one wide receiver. And you keep losing games.
• 1:12:59
  So fighting is not the word. They are failing.
• 1:13:03
  He needs to go win some games. You, you had Alabama on the
• 1:13:08
  ropes. You're supposed to beat Alabama.
• 1:13:10
  You got all the stuff to beat them.
• 1:13:12
  He just doesn't coach his teams to win.
• 1:13:15
  They felt like I think I've seen one of the South Carolina fans
• 1:13:19
  put a a tweet on on on X and he was like, in this moment, I just
• 1:13:25
  knew everything in the world was right.
• 1:13:26
  And it was the first series of it was Virginia Tech.
• 1:13:29
  You know what I'm saying? Well, they just drove the ball
• 1:13:31
  and rammed it down. I throw their fans thought they
• 1:13:33
  were going to the playoffs after that and now they came back down
• 1:13:37
  to earth. So I'm loving it.
• 1:13:38
  I'm a hater. So what?
• 1:13:41
  I hope Lane Given. I hope Lane Kiffin scores 70
• 1:13:45
  points on him. I really do.
• 1:13:48
  And I think Lane keeps cover and.
• 1:13:50
  Keep him away from Virginia Tech.
• 1:13:52
  I'm going to throw that in too. Lanes don't cover because last
• 1:13:56
  week they chain got me. He didn't get me this week.
• 1:14:00
  Almost by 21. Yeah, I feel like, I feel like
• 1:14:05
  South Carolina's on the verge of, you know, kind of quitting.
• 1:14:08
  So I had to. Granted, I thought that last
• 1:14:10
  week too, but I will be taking Ole Miss.
• 1:14:13
  I just don't like, I don't like the vibes from the Gamecocks
• 1:14:16
  right now. They're in some hot water.
• 1:14:18
  Lots of discourse around the coach getting fired and it's
• 1:14:20
  never, never a good sign. So you telling me I'm the only
• 1:14:24
  one with Brian? Change it, change it.
• 1:14:27
  Give me all this. I don't want to be.
• 1:14:32
  With Brian like that sounds. Don't put me on, please.
• 1:14:38
  Come on now. It's a stinking ship over there
• 1:14:40
  buddy. Cox will not be able to handle
• 1:14:45
  old piss. It's hurting.
• 1:14:47
  My heart, it's hurting my heart, Tyler.
• 1:14:49
  I Who's next? Shelton.
• 1:14:52
  And Oh my God, what? A Let's go.
• 1:14:55
  All right, I went a little bit with the wild card here, but
• 1:14:58
  this is in my opinion, the best G5 game of the week.
• 1:15:01
  This week. Navy and North Texas, two really
• 1:15:03
  good teams in the American. I think it will be a low
• 1:15:08
  possession, low scoring game, but I will take Navy to cover.
• 1:15:13
  I think the Schmidt shipment will get a big win and try to
• 1:15:16
  assert themselves for supremacy in the American.
• 1:15:20
  Tally I'm. Going to go with Navy as well.
• 1:15:25
  I just like watching the play. It's fun, you know what I'm
• 1:15:29
  saying? Like a bag just said, North
• 1:15:31
  Texas has been fun to watch too. Great game by child.
• 1:15:33
  I would have never picked that game as a big Serena.
• 1:15:35
  It's because I didn't pay enough attention.
• 1:15:37
  But once he put it up, I was like, you know what, It's
• 1:15:39
  probably going to be a pretty cool game to watch, you know
• 1:15:41
  what I'm saying? Just chilling watching football.
• 1:15:45
  Let's watch that one. So I think Navy is going to pull
• 1:15:47
  it out though. Yeah, this is this is an
• 1:15:51
  interesting one, like really kind of clash of styles and
• 1:15:53
  things like that. So it's going to be a fun one to
• 1:15:55
  watch on the screen I feel like. But I'm going to take Navy to
• 1:15:59
  not only take the victory here, I think they'll they'll win
• 1:16:03
  maybe about about a touchdown. So I'll go with Navy.
• 1:16:09
  You just said complete clash of styles Navy #1 rushing offense
• 1:16:15
  in the country. North Texas is the #5 passing
• 1:16:19
  offense in the country. It's all going to come down to
• 1:16:24
  possessions. And can North Texas like, stop
• 1:16:28
  Navy at least once driving the ball?
• 1:16:31
  I don't think they can. I think Navy wins this game.
• 1:16:36
  I think I'm with you, Ryan. It's like a touchdown.
• 1:16:38
  Like Navy does something stupid like gets the ball with 11
• 1:16:41
  minutes to go in the fourth quarter tie game and they drive
• 1:16:44
  it and literally score like 8 seconds left because we've seen
• 1:16:48
  that shit happen. So there we go.
• 1:16:52
  We're all the do you want to change your mind on this one too
• 1:16:54
  Tally because Brian went with this one as well.
• 1:16:57
  I can't be with him by myself if I if I got other people on there
• 1:17:01
  just can't be. It's like if if we on a scary
• 1:17:05
  movie and we're we're all trying to get to safety.
• 1:17:08
  I'm not going with Brian. He does not have a good track
• 1:17:11
  record to run away from Texas Chainsaw Mexico.
• 1:17:17
  I don't. Want to go?
• 1:17:19
  We got it. Always.
• 1:17:20
  Wants to see what's going on upstairs and then Sheldon's
• 1:17:22
  going to find a way for us to get out and at least try to go
• 1:17:26
  get some help. Brian's going to go hide in the
• 1:17:29
  in the cellar with the hooks and every time.
• 1:17:35
  Oh, he is just phone you, Brian. That's all right.
• 1:17:39
  What? What a fun.
• 1:17:40
  What a fun episode, boys. Anything else before we get
• 1:17:45
  ready to close this week? We got one more, man.
• 1:17:49
  Yeah, one more. Oh, you'll even be hanging.
• 1:17:51
  You'll even. Be hanging, you don't even.
• 1:17:55
  Want me to pick? We we will see something here
• 1:17:59
  too. Go for it, Brian.
• 1:18:00
  All right, so if you told me at the start of the season that in
• 1:18:05
  this matchup Texas would not have the Heisman hopeful, I
• 1:18:10
  would have called you a fucking liar.
• 1:18:13
  But here we are. The Heisman hope hopeful in this
• 1:18:16
  matchup is Diego Pavia and not Arch Manning.
• 1:18:20
  So for that very reason, I'm taking Randy.
• 1:18:26
  I just don't think Texas is that good of a team.
• 1:18:29
  They should have lost Mississippi.
• 1:18:30
  They should have lost to Mississippi State, and Dang,
• 1:18:34
  they should have. Honestly, they should have lost
• 1:18:36
  Mississippi State last week and they should have lost to
• 1:18:38
  Kentucky. They should be something like 2
• 1:18:41
  and 6. I think that'd be about right.
• 1:18:44
  Give me Vandy, give me a point and a half.
• 1:18:47
  Vandy wins. Yeah, well, this is actually
• 1:18:51
  easy pick for me, and it sounds insane to say this, but I
• 1:18:53
  actually think this is a trap game for Vanderbilt.
• 1:18:56
  I think Texas has easily a top three, a top three defence in
• 1:19:01
  the country. Their defence I think is really
• 1:19:03
  underrated with all the talk about Ohio State and I think I
• 1:19:07
  think Vanderbilt's just due for a let down.
• 1:19:08
  So that's why I took Texas Pain link.
• 1:19:10
  In, in in our lifetimes, did we ever think that Vanderbilt would
• 1:19:15
  be in a trap game? Vanderbilt.
• 1:19:24
  Bizarre word. Yeah, kind of crazy sicko mode.
• 1:19:28
  I thought it was going to be the same kind of like you said, trap
• 1:19:32
  game. They came and and Vanderbilt
• 1:19:34
  came off of a tough game last week.
• 1:19:36
  You know, Missouri's a tough team.
• 1:19:38
  They ended up losing their quarterback very close game.
• 1:19:42
  Then going into this game, I think a lot of people are
• 1:19:45
  overlooking Texas, but then also I've seen the line and I was
• 1:19:48
  like Vegas always knows something, right?
• 1:19:50
  So I was like, yeah, I think I'm going to take Texas in this just
• 1:19:53
  because of the kind of how they had it set up.
• 1:19:56
  I know it's pick em but I think Texas takes it.
• 1:20:01
  This is basically a true pick em right with the 1 1/2 point.
• 1:20:03
  That's basically like field. Yeah, it's basically well, yeah,
• 1:20:09
  it's the true pick em. So no not the true pick em
• 1:20:14
  because Texas could win 2827 and you get the hook and Vandy takes
• 1:20:19
  the win. Yeah, and I thought the default
• 1:20:22
  advantage for a home team is a point and 1/2 so.
• 1:20:26
  I thought it was 2 1/2. That's 2 1/2, yeah.
• 1:20:28
  It's two and a half, 2 1/2, That's 2 1/2.
• 1:20:31
  Yeah. All right.
• 1:20:32
  Now, is there anything else you'd like to bring up and talk
• 1:20:35
  about or is anything that's breaking in the last 80 minutes
• 1:20:39
  here? Nothing really breaking, but I
• 1:20:44
  will go back and touch on again that I don't know what got into
• 1:20:50
  coaching money after the game. He was crying, he was emotional.
• 1:20:55
  I don't know who he was coaching that game for.
• 1:20:58
  I don't know who was telling that man he better win.
• 1:21:02
  But shout out to him for getting out there and putting his all
• 1:21:07
  in. The trying to get WS, trying to
• 1:21:10
  get some of these kids to the next level, trying to get some
• 1:21:12
  kids seen because again, it is fun to see a team that is
• 1:21:19
  playing hard, a staff just having fun kids that are just
• 1:21:23
  out there doing what they do. So again, wasn't expecting to
• 1:21:27
  see him that emotional in that game.
• 1:21:30
  But maybe we can bring some of these these those emotions to
• 1:21:34
  this Louisville game and let's make another memory.
• 1:21:38
  Media staff has been on .2. Have y'all seen a new video yet?
• 1:21:43
  Haven't seen it yet. When you get off here, when you
• 1:21:46
  get off here, they got the video.
• 1:21:48
  You know, when you look at your phone, they tell you turn it
• 1:21:50
  sideways. When that phone, when that phone
• 1:21:53
  goes sideways, you know, somebody's cooking.
• 1:21:56
  I don't. Do that.
• 1:21:57
  I'm going to do that then. Anything else, gentlemen?
• 1:22:01
  Yeah, media, media team has been cooking all year.
• 1:22:03
  And I mean, this is just another example.
• 1:22:05
  I mean, they they've been knocked out of the park and
• 1:22:07
  unfortunately we haven't given a whole lot of wins where they can
• 1:22:10
  really like lean into it, but but what they've been able to
• 1:22:14
  put out there has been great. All right, they're just getting
• 1:22:19
  warmed up when James come in. Getting warmed up with James.
• 1:22:25
  Well, whoever comes in, whoever it may be, because it's going to
• 1:22:29
  be, I think it's going to be it's, it's going to have to be
• 1:22:33
  God awful to get us upset. It's got to be God awful if
• 1:22:38
  we're sitting here on the Monday or Tuesday after the UVA game
• 1:22:43
  and we're mad, you know, they didn't do something terrible
• 1:22:47
  wrong. So you don't know.
• 1:22:49
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