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How To Become An Actor · A Rising Star

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Welcome back to a star is born podcast My name
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is Glenn Spillman with me is Carl O 'Leary. What's
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up guys? We got a couple new guests in studio
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today. We've got sassy and Quentin and We also
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have a couple young people in the crowd this
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morning and or this afternoon Excuse me somewhere.
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I don't even know what time it is Today's topic
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is how to become an actor and that is a absolute
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Huge question that has been asked not only by
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myself When I first started but I've been asked
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that question many times Throughout my career
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as long as well as the other people in studio
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today have been asked that question So this is
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a big question that we are going to answer today
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topics and formulate that and we will do a future
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show on that. And so we always start off our
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podcast as you listeners well know with we do
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a movie review one or two movies every podcast
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and Carl's got a couple of Films that he's going
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to be talking about today that that he's watched
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we're gonna go over so take it away Carl Thank
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you, Glenn. What's up guys? I was gonna do a
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review on Thunderbolts, and I was also gonna
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review on naked gun the new one with Liam Neeson.
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First off, Thunderbolts. That was directed by
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Jake Schreier. That was an interesting film.
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I thought it was kind of a unique take on it
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with the anti -heroes and the direction they
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went. I like the action in it. I like the fight
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sequences and I like the costumes they had except
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some of them were kind of like, eh. They're okay,
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but I would have liked to seen a little bit more
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creativity on that, but that's okay. I wish I
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could have seen more dark superpower scenes in
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there, because it seems like it was lacking.
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Even though I like the action scenes, I wish
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there was more. It seemed like it needed more.
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I felt like we were denied a little bit. I like
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the different abilities the characters had. I
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thought that was cool. I like the characters.
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or at least I think I do. I didn't really get
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to learn too much about the characters, and that's
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part of the problem. They had some interesting
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skills and abilities, but again, we needed to
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see more. Maybe more backstory. I like Bob's
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character. I thought he was an interesting character.
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He was very unique. I like the concept. I wish
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I could have seen more of the in -fight scene
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and dive further into what that was. especially
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with the character's sentry, but whatever. It
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wasn't really what I expected. It seemed like
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the concept had potential, but not enough gas
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to get me to the destination. There was just
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so much that I wanted to know that wasn't answered
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the characters, the backstories, you know. It
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would have been more interesting to see the Dark
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Realm and have a longer Have longer time being
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explored in this location all the different locations
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in the dark realm I would have liked to see more
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of that, but it is what it is. I guess I like
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the story It was interesting. I Felt the story
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needed more detail of course It's where I seen
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the story seemed like it was going somewhere,
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but it didn't quite get there in the very end
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I just felt like I was missing out on that and
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You know the powers and skills needed to be addressed
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more, too. It was good, but not good enough.
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It would have been nice to see how the new characters
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got their powers. And, yeah, to have an actual
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origin story on these characters individually,
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so we know... You know, especially the new ones.
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We don't know who these new characters are. It
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would be nice to get just a sense of who these
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characters were. and before we let up to the
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main fight scene in the end and all that, just
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get an idea so we know what we're getting into.
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I always enjoy the anti -hero idea though, and
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I like the anti -hero in this one. The underdog
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story, who doesn't love that? I love action movies.
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I grew up on that as I was a kid. 80s, 90s action
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heroes who were the underdog who were also the
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anti -hero. And I think that's why I enjoy the
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anti -hero story. It's just like, oh, this guy,
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he can't do anything, but then he comes out in
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the end and saves the day. I love that. Versus
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some guy who you always expect. So I did like
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that. The things I didn't like about it, I didn't
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care for the silly banter between the action
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scenes. I thought that was kind of just ridiculous
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a little bit. It seemed like the story took too
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long to go somewhere. It was funny, but I expected
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more. I also didn't like how the movie seemed
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to be so calm. It's like there wasn't much to
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worry about. There wasn't much conflict. At least
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that's how the characters made me feel when I
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was watching them. You didn't feel like there
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was a conflict till the end of the film. That
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being said, I did like Thunderbolts. I know I
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have a lot of like, you know, I wish I could
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have seen more of this and that. But it was a
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good film. It wasn't a great film. And that's
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what I have to say about it. Thunderbolts, Naked
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Gun on the other hand, I love Naked Gun, and
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I've always been a fan of Naked Gun. It's starring
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Liam Neeson, it's directed by Akiva Schaeffer,
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and in this one it's like a laugh -out riot,
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you know, the continuation on this over -the
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-top classic comedy is extraordinary. It has
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more action than the classic Naked Gun films
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before it, and it brings some old familiar gags.
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Liam Neeson plays Frank Drebbin's son. and does
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an excellent job doing so. Pamela Anderson's
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character is very funny. She's still pretty hot,
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guys. Not gonna lie. All actors did a fantastic
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job. It doesn't skip a beat, and the humor is
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modern, but has a taste of the classic Naked
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Gun movies. It's done very well. I laughed the
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entire time, and if you are a fan of the Naked
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Gun franchise, then you cannot miss this one,
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guys. But that's up to you. I don't know... How
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the rest of the group feels. Have you guys seen
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any trailers on it? Or the new Naked Gun? I've
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seen a couple of trailers. But that's about it.
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I'm about to go home and look. I've seen a couple
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of trailers. It was interesting. What did you
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guys think? William Leeson as the new guy. Oh.
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Freighten Driven. When he says Freighten Driven,
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he's interesting to me. Because I think the reason
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why they, and I feel like I know why they made
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him the new Freighten Driven was because of that
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other movie that Taken. Because they saw the
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potential in him in that movie. He's also played
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Ra's al Ghul, which was an interesting take of
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Ra's al Ghul. But yeah, as far as Frank Drebin,
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I mean, I haven't seen the entire movie, I've
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seen the entire movie, but I was going to go
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back to Thunderbolt. It's really good. It seems
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like he does play the son very well. He stays
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so close to the original Frank Drebin. It's almost
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like, you know, he passed the torch perfectly.
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And the story is still just as great as the originals.
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It's fantastic. And it continues the story very
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well. Everything is done very well. It was hilarious.
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You guys gotta see it. That's my review of Thunderbolts
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and Naked Gun. Quick question. Do you like Liam
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Neeson better as a comedic actor or as an action?
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Depends on the film. But I like Liam Neeson as
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an actor and I think he can do both roles. He
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did really well in Naked Gun. He was very funny
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in that. But he's also pretty good at his actions.
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In Taken, I love Taken. So, I think you could
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do either one. It just depends on the material.
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Alright. Well, as mentioned prior, ladies and
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gentlemen, this podcast's subject matter is how
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to become an actor. And we have a list that I
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put down in chronological order that you should
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do these things in order, if you will. In my
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opinion, I mean you could certainly switch it
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up, but once you hear the the order that I have
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it in it'll make more sense to you all of us
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here in studio have acted at some point in our
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life Some of us have acted more than others Some
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of us have had different ways of how we got started
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I've been doing acting since I was eight years
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old So I got into it quite young I feel that
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The Best way Not the best way, but if you want
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to become an actor Think about You know, one
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of the main things is do you want to be a theater
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actor? Do you want to be a film actor or do you
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want to do both? So if you want to be well, I
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someone be like why didn't theater I'm a theater
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person. Well, there's a a slightly different
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route to take other than film Acting so I would
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say get into whatever niche that You want to
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Get into and there are some people that be like
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well, I just want to be a comedic actor. I really
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like comedy I just want to do comedy some people
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like I really love horror. I just want to do
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horror movies There's people that just want to
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do action and there's people. Hey, I'll do whatever
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it takes Find out what you're good at like me
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personally I'm a great dramatic actor, in my
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opinion. I've won awards as a dramatic actor.
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I'm very, very uncomfortable doing comedy because
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I don't think I'm funny. I've done comedy before,
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but it's very uncomfortable for me. I've done
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both theater and film. I do more film than theater
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because theater scares me. And I'll tell you
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why, because you get one chance at theater. You're
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in front of a live audience. If you mess up,
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you gotta just keep going. There's no cut, take
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two. In film, you know, you can do as many takes
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as it takes to get it right. And it's a polished
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medium. Theater is a different medium. and it's
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a it's a one -stop -shop man you got to get it
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right the first time and there's a different
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process to prepare for theater than there is
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as a film actor you know as theater you know
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there's there's open book practice there's off
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-book practice there's all this stuff that goes
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into it you know That's really like, you just
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gotta get loud and crazy and be over the top
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so that people can see you in the back. Versus
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camera where less is better. So you wanna just
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act and not be able to over, you know. I mean,
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you can be like Jim Carrey if you wanna be Jim
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Carrey, but you wanna overact or get crazy unless
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you're doing theater. Makeup's different in theater,
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it's a lot more. Yeah, it's like when you look
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at yourself in the mirror you're like, oh my
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god, I look terrible but if you You know look
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at yourself from the audience to the stage. You
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can't really tell them it looks natural I did
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Laney College and I did a little something when
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I was younger at a church. It was interesting.
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I did a little bit of theater myself, just a
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teeny bit. And what do you guys like better,
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theater or film? I always like film better. Theater's
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okay, but it's film for me. I don't know, something
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about being filmed and not having to project
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myself and be over the top. I like to be more
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natural. And I think for people that are in theater,
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They probably want to be over the top. They bounce
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around, they like to be very animated. Whereas
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the actor, he just wants to portray the character
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and show the emotions of the character naturally.
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He doesn't want to go too far with it. I started
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in theater at the age of six. It was for church.
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but I remember it was my first time on stage
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and after I did my lines I went to the back room
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and I was like that was fun I want to do it again
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and then uh when I was about 25 30 I had some
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things going on with my kids and we ended up
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separated but I ended up going back to church
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and I get got right back into the theater again
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but it was like a film and theater type of production.
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So I got a taste of both worlds and that film
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thing. They're like filming the theater production.
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I've seen that. And I did Greece too. And I did
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like the dance stuff and it was really cool.
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And with the makeup thing. So because I have
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these long eyelashes, they wanted me to put fake
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lashes over them. But then the makeup artist
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was like, no, we just need to sticking your mascara.
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So it was crazy, but I like, I like film better.
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Okay. I actually wouldn't mind doing both. I
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actually, um, cause um, there's a lot, there's
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a lot of actors in the film industry who came
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from theater first. Like they got, like, um,
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Patrick Stewart, he did theater. Denzel Washington,
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he did, he did, he did, he does theater and does
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film. I think Leonardo DiCaprio, I think he just
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does film, but I'm afraid he does some theater.
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And there's a few extra people who've done theater
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as well as film, and they still literally go
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back and forth. I'm not gonna lie to you, honestly,
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I would love to do, I'm actually looking into
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doing theater as well because it scares me because
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it scares me a lot, but I really wanna do it
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so I can get over my fear. The one thing I will
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say about theater though, is it takes a lot of
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your time. Meaning, you gotta practice with other
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people, like weeks and weeks and weeks, so it
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takes up all your time. If you're a film actor,
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here's the script, pull in your lines, show up
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on set, let's do it. There's not a lot of the
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time constraints. it is with theater so if you
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do theater be prepared to it will consume your
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life if you have a job a normal job you got to
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plan around that all that so the next thing that
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you want to do is find a photographer a good
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photographer it doesn't have to be the best what
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a good one don't have Mean if that's all you
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could afford is your friend Johnny take a snapshot
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of you But the main thing any actor needs is
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their calling card and their calling card is
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their headshot in Any casting notice for any
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things theater or film? They want you to send
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them or show up with a headshot because you give
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the headshot to the casting director they will
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Look at the headshot on the back of your headshot
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They'll usually write notes or whatever it is.
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So they look at them. Oh, yeah, I like this person
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You know, so you definitely 100 % need a headshot
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and if you are a serious act well, excuse me
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Well, no if you're a serious actor, that's what
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you want to do full -time with your life you
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need to If you ever color your hair, you need
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a new headshot. You cut your hair, you need a
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new headshot. You grow your hair like me, you
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need a new headshot. If you change facially,
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like if you go, I want a beard now and I want
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to wear the beard for the next year, new headshot.
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So whatever it is that you change in life, you
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need a headshot, yes. for the females or guys
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if they were um makeup has to be light colored
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i don't agree with that and i'll tell you why
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because a headshot depicts what you want others
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to portray of you so if you're a dramatic actor
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You want more of a dramatic headshot if you're
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a comedic actor you want more of a comedic headshot?
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But as far as the makeup goes I personally feel
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and I've talked to other actors about this do
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what makes you Feel comfortable about yourself
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the way that you want to look at the time and
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the way that you want to project to the casting
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director because that headshot is all that they
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have of you so as far as makeup goes I I personally
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feel that It can go any direction on the spectrum
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and it's how you want to portray yourself That's
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just my personal opinion but when it comes to
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makeup and in headshots you could certainly And
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again, it's where you want to go with this. It's
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kind of like if I I'm a dramatic actor. And then
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here's another one. Do you want a color headshot
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or do you want a black and white headshot? Well,
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back in the day, all the headshots were black
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and white because we didn't have color film yet.
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But once color comes, I think personally that
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a black and white headshot is more professional.
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And you can get away with a lot more like your
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makeup or your clothing or whatever You can get
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away with a heck of a lot with black and white
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with color. Everything's on blast The next thing
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you want to do is get a resume done even if you
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have zero acting Credits you still have it's
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like if you want a resume for a regular job.
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You could put experience that you've done in
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high school. You can put experience that you've
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done in life. So you can have a resume and you
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want to build on that resume. So when you first
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get your resume, if you get like your first film,
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you're an extra. Put that in your resume. But
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I will say this, normally you do not put extra
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work on a resume, but if that's all you got,
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that's all you got and as you get more experience
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you just start throwing stuff off your resume
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and then adding to it and then um add as as much
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um stuff to that resume as you possibly can so
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you've got on a resume you've got skills so on
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a resume you could put hockey player baseball
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player uh i know how to rollerblade sign language
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i'm a i'm a swimmer i'm this and that so you
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put your skills on the resume that because say
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I'm looking for a hockey player and I'm like
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oh my god this guy's been playing hockey since
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he was six he's 26 now oh okay so I don't have
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to teach him I don't have to find you know so
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that's a good thing martial artist Keanu Reeves
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doesn't just do martial arts film he he he does
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BJJ Virginia Jiu -Jitsu as part of his life Al
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Bundy from married with children he's a excellent
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BJJ fighter oh god yes or a horse anything you
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could do basic skills on a resume so if you need
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help with building a resume get a hold of us
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on social media and we'll walk you through it
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The next step after that if you can find an agent
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An agent's always great to have they could be
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good Bad or indifferent. I mean depends on the
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agent Yeah, because there are some agents that
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for your bigger actors like ah he won't want
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to Want to to to look at this so they don't even
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talk to the actor about your stuff You know if
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you get her an agent say hey, man If someone
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approaches you, I want to know everything that
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they have to offer and do your due diligence.
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Ask people in the community, hey, do you have
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an agent? Are they a good agent? Hook me up.
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Get into acting classes or workshops. Your local
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community college. Take acting beginners acting
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in a community college a few days a week We used
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to have this guy here in town. His name is Charlie
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holiday He would hold acting workshops in his
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house every weekend Friday Saturday night and
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He would do many different Things Yeah, when
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it came to acting and I really think as an actor
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You really need to take acting classes ongoing
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because With any job you're going to learn little
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types of things here and there that you may not
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have picked up like There's just little tiny
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things that you will take and each teacher teaches
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differently all of us here have been in Exactly
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yeah for sure so I remember I took a workshop
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a year or two ago. It was me, Cammie, and some
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other people. They would have us walk around
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like, you're sad. You're walking around sad,
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or they would put us in different moods and stuff
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like that. I'm like, I find it was really interesting
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being in different moods. You're shy you like
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talking about like you don't want to touch nobody
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Yeah, and your body changes. Yeah, it really
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does totally see how a person feels just based
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on the way they're yeah Yeah, and the whole box.
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Yeah, they're like sunken down and just don't
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look like they're like falling to the floor You
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can tell they're sad and you yeah, it helps you
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think on your feet. Yeah It helps you improv
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classes are awesome. If you don't, you don't
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have to want to be an improv actor, but improv
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classes could do many different things for you.
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And when you do all these things, set up a specific
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social media platform. So if you have Facebook,
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set up a Facebook page like your name actor page,
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like Carl O 'Lear. O 'Leary actor page so have
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that specifically as your actor page get on Instagram
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All your actors that you know are on Instagram
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get on Twitter Whatever social media platform.
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I just said that Get on social media platforms
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because when whenever you're in this world nowadays,
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you don't have Business cards anymore there.
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They're like hey, what's your Facebook? What's
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your Instagram? You know this and that and the
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other and be careful of what you and I will say
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this when it comes to social media though Be
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mindful of what you post because in this day
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and age People will look at your social media
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like Kevin Hart Didn't do the Oscars a couple
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years ago Because he did a tweet ten years prior
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That was a bit whatever he apologized for it
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ten years ago The Oscars say we want you to apologize
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again, you know, bring it out squash it because
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no I apologize for it ten years ago. I'm not
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gonna do it again I respectfully decline and
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they didn't you know, so just be careful It's
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it's sad. I mean, I know there's freedom of speech
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and all this other kind of stuff But there's
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a lot of Karens out there And I'm sorry to say
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yeah, you know that that you could say something
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that was acceptable Ten years ago. That's not
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acceptable today. Yeah, you can use words ten
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years ago that you can't use today and I in these
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two things never put on your social media is
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Religion or politics Because you can have whatever
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beliefs you want. I don't care, but there's people
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out there that will Care about what you say and
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if they don't agree with you, they won't hire
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you and that said That we live in that type of
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society, but it's but it's it's it's out there.
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I don't use it against you Absolutely join film
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theater and acting specific social media groups
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meaning on Facebook for example As you know that
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we live here in Sacramento. There is a a film
28:48
Group called Sacramento Film and Arts Alliance
28:57
and That's just one of the groups that I belong
29:03
to. There is many different, I mean, I belong
29:09
to a couple horror, because that's my genre,
29:11
horror type. So you guys can communicate with
29:15
one another, you can get ideas, you can get casting
29:18
notices, you can get a lot of information through
29:23
those platforms. That segues into join Excuse
29:31
me join specific Casting websites and there is
29:37
a few of them that That that I will suggest to
29:44
you guys that are great For this kind of thing.
29:48
There's many platforms out there, but here's
29:50
a few casting networks calm backstage calm allcasting
30:00
.com actorsaccess .com and the one that we use
30:04
here in town that they got in every major city
30:07
across the United States sackcasting .com a lot
30:13
of these sites are free some of them charge but
30:16
a lot of them are free and you will get a plethora
30:20
of of casting notices And if you're just starting
30:29
out, try and get into a film as an extra. That's
30:34
an easiest way to get into a film, because all
30:37
films, no matter what film it is, whether it's
30:39
one minute or three hours long, they need extras.
30:45
Just make sure you're ready for that when you
30:47
go there, you know who your character is Oh,
30:49
yeah have an idea of what you're doing in the
30:51
scene Even though you're an extra always a bit
30:53
like you're an actual character and have some
30:55
kind of story in your mind Yeah, and always be
30:59
prepared as Carl is Talking about so if it comes
31:05
to it Take a roll even if it's not paid Because
31:11
number one, there's a lot of things out there
31:14
that are not paid. Some of them are, some of
31:15
them are not. Most of them are extra stuff. There
31:19
are some extras that you do get paid for, some
31:22
of them you don't. But... If it comes to it,
31:24
take a role that's not paid. No big deal. I do
31:26
it all the time. Carl does it. Quentin does it.
31:29
I'm sure Sassy's done it. We've all done it.
31:34
Honestly, I feel like there's a lot of people
31:36
in Sacramento that just want paid work. You've
31:41
got to get experience. It doesn't matter who
31:44
you are. You're never too good. to do something
31:49
for someone else for free. For instance, there's
31:52
film challenges, there's student films, college
31:55
kids that need to do a film for their senior
31:58
class. And so they can't pay their actors, and
32:02
most of the time the film's 10 minutes or less,
32:05
and get into that kind of stuff. And you get
32:08
IMDB credits, so you have your credits for you.
32:12
And also, what I also want to point out is You
32:16
can also start writing your writing your own
32:18
skates. That's what I'm getting into next segueing
32:21
right into that Get go to film casting mixers
32:27
Network network network. Yeah, there's here in
32:31
Sacramento. There's 48 hour film challenge. There
32:34
is the Sacramento film challenge. There's all
32:38
kinds of film challenges here in Sacramento Go
32:42
to those mixers because they're looking for cast,
32:44
crews, extras, writers, directors, cinematographers,
32:49
all that stuff. And when you go to mixers, what
32:52
do you do? You mix with other people. You talk
32:55
to them. Inevitably, they're going to ask you,
32:58
hey, what's your Facebook? Hey, what's your Instagram?
33:01
Hey, because that's... Sometimes they even post
33:03
these, sorry. Of course they do. Sometimes they
33:05
post them on Facebook too, so like, you get a
33:08
heads up. That's why we said, 10 minutes ago,
33:12
get into Facebook groups, because that is, get
33:16
into as many groups as you possibly can, because
33:20
it's a numbers game. And also to us when I answer
33:23
this to us like I know a lot of people I have
33:25
an Instagram have a Facebook and they want to
33:27
be friend everybody and Because I'm actually
33:30
starting to do this now because I'm actually
33:32
deleting certain people off my Instagram on Facebook
33:34
because your Instagram your Facebook can be so
33:39
Diluted with things that you don't need and you're
33:42
in like you're just missing off you can be missing
33:43
on unlike mixers and stuff like that And because
33:48
you're because you're not seeing it. So basically
33:50
it's also good to have If you're only trying
33:52
to get to this thing called film, make sure you
33:57
check out certain things so that you can follow
34:02
certain things, follow certain people, and make
34:04
sure that you are friends and following people
34:10
who are putting on these film festivals because...
34:13
Are we in the same podcast together? Yes. Okay.
34:17
I thought I just mentioned that. That's okay,
34:19
Quentin. Quentin's just reiterating what I said.
34:22
That's why I said, get your own page. Meaning,
34:27
your actor page is your actor page. Your Facebook
34:29
page is for whatever the hell else you want to
34:32
do with your Facebook page. but the only not
34:36
the only but one of the main ways that you're
34:39
going to get that you got to check if you belong
34:41
to a Facebook group go check it every day don't
34:44
wait for it to pop up on your feed go check it
34:48
get with like -minded people like what we are
34:51
here make your own film if you want to make a
34:55
film that's one minute or you want to make a
34:57
film that's 10 minutes it's very very easy You
35:02
could film with, I suggest using Apple products.
35:06
I'm an Apple guy, they're a lot easier to use
35:08
and they're more film friendly. So get an iPhone,
35:13
film it on an iPhone. You can get free apps that
35:19
you can put on your phone. Android suck, I'm
35:22
sorry dude. I mean, I'm just straight up telling
35:25
you. When it comes to, I mean, case in point.
35:29
Mean I know we used your Android to film some
35:34
stuff a couple weeks ago and We had some problems
35:37
with it and you fixed it, but we lost three hours
35:42
worth of filming because of other stuff. That's
35:47
another podcast for another time. But make your
35:52
own film. Make a skit, write a script, two, three,
35:59
four pages. If you guys wanna know how to write
36:01
a script, that's another podcast that we're gonna
36:04
do. But again, get ahold of us on social media
36:07
and we will answer all your questions. If you're
36:11
here in the Sacramento area, we'll meet up with
36:13
you. We'll show you anything that you want. Join
36:17
our Facebook group. We post stuff up there that
36:20
we're doing. We're making stuff all the time.
36:22
We'll put you in our film. Apply for every acting
36:27
role that you fit into. Acting is a numbers game.
36:33
Audition as much as you can. You may get turned
36:37
down eight out of ten times, but you never give
36:39
up. One of the first acting classes that I went
36:42
to was a gentleman by the name of Tom Logan.
36:46
He was an actor on the TV series Chips with Eric
36:51
Estrada. And he told me, and also another gentleman
36:56
that was an actor on Days of Our Lives, he told
37:00
me, go into the audition thinking that you're
37:04
not going to get it. Yeah, that works. Because
37:07
if you go in there thinking that you're not going
37:10
to get it and you get it, that's great. That's
37:12
awesome. But if you are depressed and sad every
37:15
time you get turned down, you're going to lose
37:17
interest in a month because I mean, dude, I have
37:21
been turned down more times than not. I thought
37:26
I was perfect for the role, but maybe they didn't
37:31
like my long hair. So they asked me to cut it.
37:35
And I said, sure, I'll cut it. Is it a paid role?
37:38
They said no. Then I was like, F, no, I'm not
37:41
going to cut it. But if they said, like, with
37:45
Demi Moore, she shaved her head for a movie that
37:53
she did, G .I. Jane, and she got paid handsomely
37:57
for doing that. So if you're ever asked to change
38:01
your appearance, if they go, hey man, this roll,
38:07
and you're really, and you're a girl, we'll say,
38:11
Sassy's got long hair, and they say, hey, we
38:14
want you to play Karen, and we want you to have
38:19
a Karen -type haircut. And Sassy's gonna cut
38:23
off 12 inches of her hair, but they go, no, it's
38:27
not a paid roll. You would do that? payroll yeah
38:32
no a non -paid role probably not no no my hair
38:39
takes too long to grow back so but I would say
38:42
I would say that um audition for every single
38:48
thing that you can whether you think it's comfortable
38:51
for you or not like me comedy no but I'll audition
38:55
for it I'll certainly try Once you've done a
38:58
couple of gigs, make a reel. A reel is little
39:02
tiny, think of it as a trailer for a movie, but
39:05
it's a trailer for your acting career. A reel
39:10
is like little snippets, like whether it's five
39:14
seconds, 10 seconds, 15 seconds, whatever, of
39:16
different roles that you've played. It shows
39:18
different characters, it shows range, it shows
39:21
people, oh, this guy can do comedy and action.
39:24
He can also do drama, all this kind of stuff.
39:28
So you make yourself a real. And if you wanna,
39:32
again, if you wanna know how to do it, get in
39:33
contact with us, we will show you. And don't
39:37
ever think that you're too good for a role. If
39:40
you've done a few things, say you've gotten paid
39:43
$1 ,000 here, 15 here, five grand there, whatever,
39:47
you're starting to make a little bit of money.
39:48
You're starting to get a little name for yourself.
39:50
Never think you're too good. to do something
39:54
and please for the love of god don't ever tell
39:58
anybody in the community that you're too good
40:00
because i promise you word will get out and you
40:04
will lose roles because of what you said and
40:08
the very last thing that i will say depending
40:11
on where you live you might need to move to a
40:15
better market that has a good film community
40:19
And I'm saying that it doesn't have to be LA
40:22
LA is not the only hotspot. So for instance if
40:24
you live in Oklahoma City Yeah, they have a little
40:29
bit of an acting community there, but if you
40:33
shoot down three hours More like five five hours
40:38
to Austin, Texas. They have a excellent film
40:42
community. Atlanta, Georgia's got a good film
40:45
community. Los Angeles has a good film community.
40:48
Obviously, it's the mecca of acting. New Orleans,
40:55
as Quinton said, all of that stuff. But find
40:59
a film community that you can become a part of,
41:04
that you can grow with. All of that kind of stuff.
41:07
These are only 18 things that I give you as a
41:10
guide. There are many more things that we could
41:13
talk about. We've been talking for 41 minutes
41:16
on how to become an actor, and I could literally
41:19
make this into three podcasts, full hour podcast,
41:25
on how to become an actor. But again, we are
41:29
very social people. We are very engaging people.
41:33
We have zero problem with you asking questions
41:37
seeking knowledge That's why we do this podcast
41:41
because we love this stuff so much We want to
41:45
educate you guys on the ins and outs of the acting
41:49
world the theater world, the behind the scenes
41:53
world, the crew, the everything that involves
41:57
entertainment. A Stars Born Podcast is not just
42:01
about acting. It's not just about becoming a
42:04
star, because you can become a star in anything
42:07
that you do in this entertainment world, whether
42:10
you want to be a good gaffer, whether you want
42:12
to be a good sound person. And please, I'm gonna
42:15
leave you with this. Do not, I repeat, Do not
42:20
get into acting because you want to become a
42:22
star. Don't freaking do it. Do not do it. Do
42:27
it as you would do it any other job. Why do you
42:32
work, Carl? Why? I love acting. No, working.
42:35
Why do you work? Oh, I work to survive. Okay.
42:39
Sassy, why do you work? To survive. Why else
42:42
do you work? Who's that? That's my kid. Why do
42:46
you work? Because I want you take care of your
42:49
kids Quentin. Why do you work much? I've got
42:52
two kids sitting in front of me on the floor
42:54
right now that I take care of I work a regular
42:58
job to make money Money makes the world go around
43:01
so I do acting I would love to do acting as a
43:05
job To me, but I will say this If you move to
43:09
LA, I promise you promise you promise you promise
43:12
you you can make it as an actor and I'll tell
43:14
you why Because there's a job every single day
43:17
in LA whether it's an extra and these are paid
43:20
Whether it's an extra a day player or two days
43:24
or a week or whatever You can easily make 60
43:32
,000 plus a year as a Background actor in LA.
43:37
I promise you and I could tell you how to do
43:39
it, but that's a another podcast but anyways
43:44
do you um excuse me have any last words wisdom
43:50
sassy oh i was gonna ask you guys how you guys
43:52
feel about monologues monologues is another podcast
43:56
and another but i will tell you about a monologue
44:01
that's another subject for another podcast um
44:05
but yeah monologues are cool well we'll get into
44:07
that later what's any parting wisdom that you
44:09
have quentin Even though if you're not going
44:12
out for a roll, I'm gonna tell y 'all what I
44:16
told another actress that was on my set. It's
44:19
always good to do, it's always good to do self
44:23
-tapes. Even if you're not going out for a roll,
44:26
it's always good to do self -tapes and put it
44:27
on your YouTube channel because you never know
44:30
who might be checking you out. Yep, it is practice,
44:33
practice, practice. Carl, what about you? Yeah,
44:37
I would say that don't give up. keep trying and
44:40
persevere and if you're not getting where no
44:42
one's giving you anything write something or
44:44
work with someone who has who's gonna write something
44:47
for you and play that part always do something
44:50
create social media create your own channel create
44:53
your own content there's always a way to get
44:55
discovered it's not always through the director
44:57
oh yeah don't always have to audition the normal
45:01
way no you don't use social media but um but
45:05
never give up no never give up never ever Give
45:09
up on your dreams, folks. Like I said, I promise
45:12
you, you're gonna go out for 10 auditions, you're
45:15
gonna lose nine of them. You might get one, but
45:17
I promise you, you're gonna lose nine. Do not
45:20
get discouraged. I'm telling you, because sometimes,
45:24
as a casting person, as myself, that I've done,
45:27
there's a certain look that I want for an actor,
45:31
in certain things. And if I see your headshot,
45:34
I'm like, oh my God, that's exactly what I'm
45:37
looking for. I don't care if he could act or
45:40
she could act. I'll teach him to act, but I want
45:44
this person. You will get a job just on your
45:47
looks. You might get a job just on an accent
45:51
that you have. You might get a job for whatever.
45:53
But anyway, I digress. But as Carl said, do not
45:57
give up, folks. Again, I'll throw out our social
46:00
media again. a rising star podcast on all social
46:04
media platforms Get in contact with that We will
46:09
see you guys next time. Have a great night. Peace
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out