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Ian Furness 11/3 H3: John Lund, talkbacks, texts, Fact or Fiction and Softy! · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 2: League Baseball had Tuesday proposed postponing the implementation of a
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  Speaker 2: salary cap until the 2028 season, while still putting into
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  Speaker 2: College football playoff reveal. Top 25 rankings at 4 p.m.
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  Speaker 2: Pacific time tonight. Miami expected to be number one. And
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  Speaker 2: then we'll see from there. Let's move into hour number three.
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  Speaker 2: Waiting on John Lund just finishing up his show. We
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  Speaker 2: give him a hard time, but he gets off the
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  Speaker 2: air literally at 2 o'clock.
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  Speaker 3: He does, and he's ready now, so I'll call him.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Some of us, like me, I get off at 3 o'clock,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm gone at 3.01. Actually, 2.54 to be exact,
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  Speaker 2: and 2.55, as Ashley can tell you, I'm out of here.
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  Speaker 4: Gonzo.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, Ashley will have a pick for Factor
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  Speaker 2: Fiction coming up at 2.35. We'll get to your texts
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  Speaker 2: and your talkbacks as well coming up at 2.30 today,
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  Speaker 2: so stick around for that.
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  Speaker 3: As well. We'll get you going for all those things.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get to it. John Lund is standing by at
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  Speaker 3: the open.
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  Speaker 1: It's time for Ian's weekly visit with John Lund, Unleashed,
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  Speaker 1: the Bay Area rock star who Ian's been kicking around
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  Speaker 2: John Lund joins us right now on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline,
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  Speaker 3: Hello, sir. How are you? I can hardly see you
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  Speaker 3: down there.
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  Speaker 4: Are you down there? We're way up here at the
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  Speaker 4: top of the playoff building. I can't even see you
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  Speaker 4: down there.
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  Speaker 3: Where are you?
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  Speaker 5: Sorry, I think we must have a bad connection.
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  Speaker 3: I thought we had John.
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  Speaker 5: Let me go find out where he went.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. That's just one cheap shot.
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  Speaker 6: I feel bad.
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  Speaker 4: I do. I feel bad.
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  Speaker 3: No, you don't.
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  Speaker 7: You don't even feel remotely bad.
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  Speaker 3: You don't feel bad at all.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, but I'm sorry. I feel bad.
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  Speaker 3: That was nasty.
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  Speaker 4: I could have sworn.
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  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure.
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure. I could have sworn. I was really
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  Speaker 2: good on your show yesterday. I was really kind. I
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  Speaker 2: was nice.
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  Speaker 4: People actually said that because the first time you came on, Uh,
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  Speaker 4: people didn't like you. And I'm like, I try, I
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  Speaker 4: actually had to take the whole next segment and explain
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  Speaker 4: to people really good friend of mine. We give each
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  Speaker 4: other grief, nothing against you.
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  Speaker 8: Cause you know, we, we like to give each other
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  Speaker 8: grief and they.
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  Speaker 4: Weren't really, the new version of the show was not really.
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  Speaker 8: Versed in that.
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  Speaker 4: They're like, never have him on again. And I was like,
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  Speaker 4: you guys don't understand.
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  Speaker 8: Like, we just have fun. We're giving each other grief.
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  Speaker 4: He's a friend of mine like relax and then yesterday
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  Speaker 4: because we kind of couched it that way they still
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  Speaker 4: hated you but they got like they're okay we hate
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  Speaker 4: him still but he's your friend so.
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  Speaker 3: We get so it was better but the.
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  Speaker 4: First time he came on they were like who is
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  Speaker 4: i hate that guy that's like dude you know who's
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  Speaker 4: that seattle homer.
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  Speaker 8: And i'm like no he's my friend like relax.
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  Speaker 2: Relax relax yeah they were all happy hey relax san
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  Speaker 2: fran relax down there and then you said.
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  Speaker 4: That and people got mad yeah that's right You were
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  Speaker 4: egging him on.
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  Speaker 3: And then our team up here just got his doors
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  Speaker 3: kicked in yesterday. Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to be 100% honest with you, and it's
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  Speaker 4: going to make people even more mad. Actually, what we
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  Speaker 4: did was we sent in a double agent, Brian Fleury.
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  Speaker 4: He's your offensive coordinator, but he's actually working for the 49ers,
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  Speaker 4: and he's an actual double agent, and he was sent
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  Speaker 4: to you to ruin your team. And so far, it's
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  Speaker 4: working quite well. He is a double agent, and he
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  Speaker 4: is ruining your offense.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is you say something like that, and people
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  Speaker 2: are going to believe it to be true after last night.
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  Speaker 4: There was a dude on KGR, and I hated his guts,
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  Speaker 4: but he brought up one good point. He said, and
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  Speaker 4: he was sent to ruin our season, and I think
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  Speaker 4: he's right. And then that goes on social media.
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  Speaker 8: He's a double agent.
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  Speaker 4: He's a double agent.
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  Speaker 2: Does it not prove that over the years, all these– Listen,
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  Speaker 2: the NFL is the most incestuous thing in the world, right?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's incest beyond belief. And you come from
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  Speaker 2: the Shanahan tree or the McVeigh tree or the Sean
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  Speaker 2: Payton tree, the Andy Reid, which was the Mike Holmgren tree,
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  Speaker 2: which was the Bill Walsh tree, right? Not everybody that
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  Speaker 2: comes through those organizations and working for those great, mostly
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  Speaker 2: offensive minds, but in the case of Seattle, the defensive
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  Speaker 2: mind of Mike McDonald, Not every one of those guys
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  Speaker 2: is going to be capable to take that next step
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  Speaker 2: out of being a position coach to either a head
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  Speaker 2: coach or even a coordinator. That doesn't always happen. It's
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  Speaker 2: not always going to be successful. And if we're being honest,
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  Speaker 2: here in Seattle so far, it has not been successful.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and look, in all honesty, and you know this
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  Speaker 4: as well as I do, that.
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  Speaker 4: That it happens. Like it's not just, I know people
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  Speaker 4: don't want to hear this. It's not just his fault.
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  Speaker 4: It's not just Sam's fault. It's, you know, you're playing musical,
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  Speaker 4: the offensive line on a pretty bad day that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: Jeffrey Simmons starts. And I mean, I think there's a
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  Speaker 4: lot of different things, but one thing is clear to me,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm sure you've talked about it all.
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  Speaker 8: Day, but even I could figure this out there.
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  Speaker 4: He's, they're just not on the same page. So I'm,
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  Speaker 4: Whether that's flurry, whether that's startled, whether it's, it's probably
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  Speaker 4: a combination of things you're trying to figure out your
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  Speaker 4: offensive line on Monday night football. It's a combination of things,
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  Speaker 4: but the biggest thing, and you guys know this better
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  Speaker 4: than I do. If John Snyder thinks he can still
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  Speaker 4: save the season, he's, I don't know if it's running
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  Speaker 4: back because they just got those guys back. but you know,
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  Speaker 4: Cooper cup, nice guy. Can't play anymore. Rashid Shaheed. I
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  Speaker 4: know he was out. Wouldn't add much. Tori Horton. I
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  Speaker 4: thought he was going to be a great player. So
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  Speaker 4: I'm a lot of Colorado state. I know he's been injured.
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  Speaker 4: He needs to step up. Like they're just not the 49ers.
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  Speaker 4: The thing about the 49ers is they got a boatload injuries,
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  Speaker 4: but they've had a ton of guys step up and offensively,
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  Speaker 4: at least, you know, other than JSN teams know how to,
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  Speaker 4: it's like, okay, that guy's going to go off, but
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  Speaker 4: who else is going to help them? And right now, nobody.
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  Speaker 3: That's the problem.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and, and, I mean, let's talk the playoffs for
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  Speaker 2: a second, because I kind of went through this earlier.
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  Speaker 2: If we're being honest, and this pains me to say
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  Speaker 2: this with you on the air, listen, the division's The
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  Speaker 2: division's pretty much out of reach. I mean, you'd need
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  Speaker 2: a catastrophic fall by the 49ers. And I think the
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  Speaker 2: Rams have to approach it the same way, right? Both
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  Speaker 2: Seattle and the Rams are 4-4, and they've both lost
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  Speaker 2: to San Francisco. So really, you're three and a half,
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  Speaker 2: four games back. Both teams have a game left against
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  Speaker 2: those guys. But you need a lot of help for
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  Speaker 2: that to happen. So now you start focusing in on...
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  Speaker 2: the wildcard race, right? And kind of went through it
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  Speaker 2: since they went to 17 games, 9-8, 9-8, 9-8, 11-6, 9-7-1.
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  Speaker 2: The outlier in 2024, you had to be 11-6 to
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  Speaker 2: get in as a wildcard team, John. So with the North,
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  Speaker 2: everyone's got at least five wins. And obviously two teams
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  Speaker 2: have six wins in Minnesota and Chicago. In the West,
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  Speaker 2: Seattle 4-4, the Rams 4-4. I don't think we're going
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  Speaker 2: to see a team out of the Southwest Certainly not
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  Speaker 2: the East that's going to also have a chance to
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  Speaker 2: get to the postseason. So it's five teams for three spots, right? Seattle,
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  Speaker 2: the three teams that don't win the NFC North, and
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  Speaker 2: the Rams. It's as simple as that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, there's going to be two good teams that just
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  Speaker 8: don't get.
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  Speaker 4: In the playoffs. I mean, I still think Seattle's good.
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  Speaker 4: The Rams are going to get Miles Garrett back. They're
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  Speaker 4: a good team. There's going to be either somebody out
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  Speaker 4: of the North, like you.
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  Speaker 8: Said, the South and the East are going to be
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  Speaker 8: one team.
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  Speaker 4: And then right now, I think all of the North
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  Speaker 4: teams would get in. So there's going to be North
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  Speaker 4: team that, you know, there's going to be two teams.
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  Speaker 4: Looking at the schedule this morning, the Seahawks can still
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  Speaker 4: pull off a run. Again, I don't know exactly what
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  Speaker 4: you've been talking about. The Seahawks could.
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  Speaker 8: Pull off a run, but the problem is.
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  Speaker 4: They don't look good. Like if you lose last night
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  Speaker 4: to the bears, I get it. The bears look like
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  Speaker 4: a legit team that people should be afraid of in the,
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  Speaker 4: in the NFC. I mean, Caleb, you know, did you
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  Speaker 4: just kind of compare apples to apples? Caleb Williams looked
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  Speaker 4: like what Patrick Mahomes.
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  Speaker 8: Was supposed to look like the week before.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he looks more like Patrick Mahomes and Patrick Mahomes.
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  Speaker 4: They play a lot of backyard football. Ben Johnson's really good.
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  Speaker 4: But the problem is, is that You know, the defense
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  Speaker 4: aside last night, that's normally not what they do. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: they're going to bounce back from that defensively. But offensively,
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  Speaker 4: like you talked about, and I'm sure you've talked about
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  Speaker 4: it all day long, where do you start? Because I
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  Speaker 4: understand what fans want to do. You want to go
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  Speaker 4: to the low-hanging fruit. It's Brian Fleury. It's Sam Darnold.
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  Speaker 4: Like quarterbacks, coordinators, coaches, then you go to the referees.
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  Speaker 4: Those are the things that fans like to talk about.
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  Speaker 4: But the reality is, and you know this, and you
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  Speaker 4: guys all know this, it's a combination of things. And
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  Speaker 4: do the Seahawks, who sit at 4-4, have enough time
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  Speaker 4: to fix things before it gets too late? Because right now,
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  Speaker 4: they can do it, but they have to rattle off. What?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we're eight games into this thing, so there's
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  Speaker 4: nine games remaining. You've got to rattle off like a...
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, an 8-1? All your mulligans are gone.
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  Speaker 4: Can you do that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's the best thing. The mulligans are gone. The
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  Speaker 2: breakfast balls are done. You've used them all up already.
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  Speaker 2: So the nine games left, the way I see it,
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  Speaker 2: and everyone's going to look at it differently, and certainly
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  Speaker 2: they'd never look at it this way inside the building.
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  Speaker 3: It's one game at a time. We've got one week.
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  Speaker 2: We've got the Cardinals coming up. That's what we're worried about, blah, blah, blah,
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  Speaker 2: all that stuff, right? But I think if you look
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  Speaker 2: at it realistically... Here's what you have. Arizona, Vegas, Dallas, Giants, Philadelphia,
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  Speaker 2: and Carolina. You should be favored as Seattle in all
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  Speaker 2: six of those games. And then you have three games
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  Speaker 2: left against the 49ers, one and two against the Rams.
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  Speaker 2: So those three games. If you win the six I
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  Speaker 2: just talked about and you go one and two in
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  Speaker 2: the other ones, you finish with 11 wins. So you
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  Speaker 2: can go, as long as you win one of the
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  Speaker 2: three against San Francisco and the Rams, that gets you
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  Speaker 2: into the wild card. That gives you 11 wins. You're
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  Speaker 2: going to be a wild card team. But, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: what you just said is true. I also am banking
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  Speaker 2: on them beating Arizona, Vegas, Dallas, the Giants, Philadelphia, and Carolina.
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  Speaker 2: I'm banking on, and they've already lost to the Commanders. So, like,
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  Speaker 2: you don't have, you just said it yourself, right? You're 100% right.
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  Speaker 2: You do not have any margin of error. Like, you've
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  Speaker 2: got no margin of error left to go.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and as a fan, the thing I would be
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  Speaker 4: most concerned about is not that I don't think.
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  Speaker 8: You can win those games, because I know how fans think.
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  Speaker 4: They think, oh, we're just going to win all these games.
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  Speaker 4: But you just, Chicago's not that good of a defense.
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  Speaker 4: I know, again, you're shuffling your offensive line. It wasn't
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  Speaker 4: a great night to do that. I don't blame the
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  Speaker 4: Seahawks for it. Quentin Nelson's going to pay off. But
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  Speaker 4: Gray's able, it's harder than people think to go from
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  Speaker 4: left to right guard. You're missing your left tackle. So
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  Speaker 4: you got crushed that way.
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  Speaker 8: But it's not that you just.
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  Speaker 4: That you have to win the games. It's that you
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  Speaker 4: have to change this offense. And what, you know, you're
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  Speaker 4: going to fire your offensive coordinator in the middle of
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  Speaker 4: the season. I know that's what fans want to do,
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  Speaker 4: but it's really difficult.
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  Speaker 3: This isn't college football. This isn't college football. You don't
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  Speaker 3: do that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. You, you can't instill a bunch of new properties
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  Speaker 4: in a week. You just can't, even if you had
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  Speaker 4: a buyer, whatever the case may be, you just can't,
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  Speaker 4: it's not, it's not that easy. It's not like. other sports,
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  Speaker 4: you know, your offense is going to totally change. You
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  Speaker 4: just can't do that. And, and, you know, the other
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  Speaker 4: thing you could do is personnel. And that comes down
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  Speaker 4: to John Schneider. I'm sure there's a bunch of fans
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  Speaker 4: yelling to do this and do that. You're not going
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  Speaker 4: to mortgage your future unless you feel like you can
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  Speaker 4: win this. Having said that though, your defense is only
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  Speaker 4: going to be elite for how many more years? I mean,
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  Speaker 4: that's the sense of urgency. You want a Superbowl and
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  Speaker 4: that's great, but nobody knows more than you and Seahawks fan,
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  Speaker 4: you guys and Seahawks fans. You want to win more
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  Speaker 4: than one. It's great that they won one, but you
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  Speaker 4: have an elite defense that can win multiple Super Bowls.
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  Speaker 4: So how urgent is John Schneider to go out and
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: mortgage your future to find another receiver or whatever it's
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: going to take offensively to get them on track? And
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: will that even be enough? after the start they're off
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: to because the North is great. The Niners, I mean,
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: if you look at the Niners schedule, it's the same
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: kind of thing. They don't have a.
• 14:30
  Speaker 8: Lot of losable games.
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: They're not going to lose a ton. The Rams are
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: going to come on strong. The North is really good.
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, only he can evaluate how far he thinks
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: this team can go because while fans are always going
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: to want to mortgage the future, he's got to be
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: the designated driver, so to speak. He can't be the
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: drunk guy just throwing around a bunch of picks.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: The only games, I'm just looking at 49ers schedule, the
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: ones that the landmines for San Francisco are, So they
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: go Vegas, Dallas, Minnesota, Seattle, the Giants, the Rams, the Chargers,
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs, the Eagles, and the Cardinals. So the one
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: against Seattle, the one against the Rams, and then you'd
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: probably put Minnesota in there and the Chiefs in there.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: So there's really, the 49ers have four games that are probably,
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: that are losable, right?
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: That are losable.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: They'll probably go three and one in those games, right?
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: Worst case scenario, they go two and two. Well, Seattle
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: and the Rams are still behind unless they run the table.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: The Rams are also an interesting one because you mentioned
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: they all kind of have these similar schedules along the
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: way for the Rams. And that would have been nice
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: if the Chargers showed up last week. Rams go commanders. Commanders, Cardinals, win-win.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Packers will be a tough one. That's Packers and Chiefs.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: Especially if they're going to get Micah back. That would
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: make a big difference.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: As long as you can beat women and still play football,
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: as Josh Jacobs is doing multiple times.
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: Apparently you can.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, apparently that's fine.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: As long as it's not on tape like Ray Rice,
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: you're okay. Apparently that's how it works these days. Green
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: Bay Packers and Kansas City Chiefs. San Francisco 49ers, those
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: three in a row, November 25th, December 3rd, December 13th,
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: those three in a row for the Rams, that's their landmine.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Like that's their, you know, can only get Seattle twice
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: in the two of the last three games of the year.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: So there's still some stuff that could happen, but boy,
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: it just feels like for Seattle and for the Rams,
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: like you have like one or two losses left on
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: the resume and that's it.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: You just said it. You've used up all the mulligans.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: Well, and the other thing about the 49ers, and I
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: know people won't love to do this, but Kyle's best
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: months record wise in his career, November, December. And what
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: tends to always happen with these guys is that they
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: have a bunch of early.
• 16:43
  Speaker 8: Season injuries and everybody panics.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: And then they get those guys back. They, I'm going
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: to knock on wood because maybe this happens right when
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: I say it, it usually does, but it's, You know, they've,
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: they've had a lot of injuries on their team. They
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: just haven't been seasoned enders. And so they start getting
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: guys back. Like they're going to get their second round
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: pick to John struggling back. One of the receivers are
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: going to get Mike Evans back against the Raiders this weekend.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: You know, they're Debo Samuel. They're getting back Nick Bosa.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: They're getting back this weekend. They, those guys have been
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: gone for weeks. So can, you know, conceivably they're going
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: to get better. The least they should. It wouldn't surprise
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: me if the Rams and the Seahawks beat them here.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: They've done that in the past. The Niners have played
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: well there, at least in the regular season, but And
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: at home, the Seahawks will beat them down here. So
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: they could lose a couple of those games. They have
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: trouble with Kansas city, obviously historically they could, I think
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: Kansas city is different though. I mean, we saw that
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: in Seattle. I think they can beat them, but still,
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: like you said, even if you don't give them the
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: benefit of the doubt, they play Minnesota and Mexico city.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: They're wildly popular in Mexico city are the Niners. So
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: that's going to be a, that's going to be a
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: home game. I think they win that one, but you know,
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: even if you don't give them that that's four and
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: right now they have one loss. So they're going to be,
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: you know, at worst 12 and five probably, but at
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: best maybe 14 and three. So, you know, it's, it
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: is going to be tough to catch them. And now
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: you're starting to look at the North and what those
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: teams are going to do. And like you said, lions
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: just won. Packers are pretty solid. We just saw the bears.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: It's going to be tough to get the playoffs, but it's,
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: it's not only a numbers game for Seattle. It's just
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: the way they're playing, you know, and it just, it
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: feels like a super bowl hangover. And the other thing
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: I'd say about the organization, and it's easy for me
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: to say this and all of us to say this
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: at this point, but you're in a super bowl window.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: And you're going with a first time play caller and
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: it's just showing, you know, it's, it's showing that you can,
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: I don't know why you do that. I mean, we've,
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: we've seen Denver do it. Then Sean Payton took it over,
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: but you're in a Superbowl window. You can't go with
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: a first time play caller. And here's the other thing
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: that I find confusing about it is, you know, Kubiak
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: leaves the Niners have a Kubiak. You know, you've got
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: two of them. Clint Kubiak is the offensive coordinator of
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: the 49ers. He's Kyle's right-hand man. I don't know why
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: they didn't go Clint Kubiak. Maybe it was just, yeah,
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: I know they interviewed him. I guess it just didn't
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: work out in the interview and Brian Fleury seemed more,
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: you know, more their way, but you had another one
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: sitting here in San Francisco and we asked that.
• 18:50
  Speaker 8: Right when it was done, like, why wasn't it Clint Kubiak?
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: Why was it Brian Fleury? Because I told you this
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: right when the hiring happened, it's not that he didn't
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: know him. I did, but I had no idea that,
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: you know, he was going to aspire to be an
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: offensive coordinator that quickly. I found the hire to be
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: odd from the start.
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: And it's feeling that way right now too. And it's just, it's,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: It is what it is. All right, well, go Raiders.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Good times talking to you yesterday. Anytime you need me
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: to come on and piss off your listeners, let me know.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: You were awesome, by the way.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: People liked you. It was incredible. Before, they hated you.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: They hated you.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: Now, next time, you're not going to be nice because
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: you think I haven't been nice.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Imagine if you had Softie on your show. Just imagine that.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: Oh, yes, I have. He'll never be back on. I
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: did have Hugh Millen on the show, and boy, people
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: didn't like that. And I told him afterwards, like, Hugh
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: Millen's great. You guys are crazy. Because, you know, he
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: was just, he was like, he always does. Isn't he
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: part of.
• 19:38
  Speaker 8: The Husky Honks or something like that?
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but here's the problem. Your listeners aren't smart enough
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: to understand what he was talking about. That's the problem.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: Wow. That hurts. That hurts deep.
• 19:48
  Speaker 8: I mean, by saying that my listeners aren't smart enough, you're.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Calling me dumb.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: And I just, that hurts.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: I thought we were good that way. I mean, there's
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: a line.
• 19:56
  Speaker 8: That you cross.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: You know, like Draymond Dean threw down a guy yesterday.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: Oh, God, did he do that again? Wait, wait, wait.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: He did it again?
• 20:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah, he did.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: You missed it.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he threw down a guy on the Suns.
• 20:04
  Speaker 8: You know, there's just a line that you shouldn't cross.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: I feel bad.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: You called me stupid.
• 20:08
  Speaker 8: No, I didn't call you stupid.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: You called me stupid.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: I called your listeners dumb, not you. Yeah, but by proxy.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: I'm the leader of the dumb.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: You are the leader.
• 20:21
  Speaker 8: Which is probably not all entirely wrong.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I just, I had this vision of you walking through
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: that big parking lot next to the roller coaster at
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Levi's stadium. You know, you got like the, the baton
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: out there and you know, like the draw, like the lead,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: the band leader.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: And here he is. The Pied Piper bringing all his
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: 49er fans in there.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: They're all just yelling Niners, Niners, Seahawks suck.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: We love one. Screw you for this.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 20:48
  Speaker 8: I get my people after you.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of them. There's a lot of them.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: I can say all this stuff now because I don't
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: travel down there anymore, so I'm a little safer. I
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be saying this if I was walking through the
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: parking lot.
• 20:57
  Speaker 8: There's no way you would be saying that because I
• 20:59
  Speaker 8: would sick of after you.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: You know that guy right there?
• 21:01
  Speaker 8: Look, he's got a.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: He's got a Seahawk logo on the van there.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, God help us.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 21:06
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• 21:08
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  Speaker 2: it out. Also, man, they got the good. Have you
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: given them the address yet? They're trying to send you
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: some gear, some stuff, right?
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. I got to get to it.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Captain's Reserve.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: I don't have a business. I already have an address.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you, like, my box, my almost
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: box does not have an address, so we're having a problem.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: We'll figure it out. Under the bridge down by the river.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: That's John Lyon.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: That's where I live. I don't know my address.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: ChambersBayDistillery.com. We'll figure it out. All right, we'll talk to
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: you next week.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: See you.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: That's John Lund. See you. He's done. Get him out
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: of here, Ashley. Say goodbye to him.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: We'll come back, get a couple more talkbacks, and then
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Ashley has a pick for Factor Fiction next.
• 21:53
  Speaker 9: This is Sammy the Seahawk. My cousin, the ancient Mariner,
• 21:57
  Speaker 9: will make comments on the Mariner hire after the news
• 22:01
  Speaker 9: conference tomorrow to comport with the vision of Ian and Ashley.
• 22:07
  Speaker 9: But as Sammy the Seahawk, I just want to say,
• 22:10
  Speaker 9: I was really bullish last week. I'm not real bullish
• 22:16
  Speaker 9: this week. That's the problem when you have a split personality.
• 22:23
  Speaker 10: Hey, Chuck Powell here with the morning show and the
• 22:26
  Speaker 10: ABCs of the Mariners for Always Be Confusing. I think
• 22:31
  Speaker 10: it's good that Jerry says we need manager and experience
• 22:35
  Speaker 10: in a culture change and then hire a guy that
• 22:37
  Speaker 10: hasn't even coached T-ball. I think it's good that we
• 22:41
  Speaker 10: go off analytics and he meets every single day with
• 22:44
  Speaker 10: the manager.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: It's not Jerry's fault. It was all the manager's. Jerry's great.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: I love Jerry DePoto.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: Go M's. I'll make this quick. Is Brian Fleury a problem?
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Of course, my expectations for this team has changed.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: They have to.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: But we can't jump ship now. What are we, Philadelphia
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Eagles fans?
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: Get out of here.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Go Hawks.
• 23:08
  Speaker 11: Mr. Optimist here, who didn't have his opinion changed at
• 23:12
  Speaker 11: all after the Chiefs game because he was already confident. Yeah,
• 23:16
  Speaker 11: that's waning now. I don't think this offensive coordinator is
• 23:21
  Speaker 11: the guy. And I remember last year, like with, with Darnold,
• 23:25
  Speaker 11: he had his offensive coordinator who he had been with
• 23:28
  Speaker 11: for a while in the past and made him successful.
• 23:30
  Speaker 11: And now he doesn't have them. And I think that
• 23:32
  Speaker 11: just drains on the defense. I think the defense will
• 23:34
  Speaker 11: figure it out. So will the run game, but I
• 23:36
  Speaker 11: just think this OC is bad.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to lie.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: I expected more of a, more of a battle in
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: the game last night, but you know, all I can
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: say is the bears.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Tell me that wasn't the last one.
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: That was the last one. Yeah, I wanted to leave
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: everyone a little pissed off.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: They are probably that much.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: That's how we started the show.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: 253, you guys are hilarious. Talking like the Bears are
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl favorites. I worked on the sideline. They got
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: their only offense in the first three quarters. We gave
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: them the ball on their side of the field. The fumbles, interceptions.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Outside of that, before the fourth quarter, we shut them
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: down mostly. Calm it down.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Let's take a quick glance.
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: There was one interception, one fumble.
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: They shut us down almost the entire game.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: First drive of the game, 17 plays, 80 yards for Chicago.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was going to say, they moved the ball
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: pretty well to start the game.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: They got the ball at their own 28. They went
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: seven plays, 47 yards, Hicks field goal. They got the
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: ball at their own 25, eight plays, 55 yards, another
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: field goal. Let's go to the second half, shall we?
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: We will. They got the ball at their own 31,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: went 10 plays and 69 yards for, wait for it,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: a touchdown.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Let's see.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Got the ball, shorter field this time, Chicago 44, touchdown.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: They Guys, let's not create something.
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: That's looking through weird goggles.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: They were 7 of 15 on third down. Seattle was
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: 1 for 11. They were also 1 for 1 on
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: fourth down. Seattle's fourth down.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Remember I was talking about it earlier, their.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Red zone defense? Seattle's fourth down defense. Let me just
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: double check this. I believe is the worst as well
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: in the NFL right now.
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: They only have two fourth down conversion attempts.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Seattle's defense, though. Yeah. Seattle's good on third down.
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Awful on fourth down.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: 32 out of 32, and awful in the red zone,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: 32 out of 32. Also, 32nd in goal-to-goal defense as well.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: You get inside the 20, you're scoring on Seattle's defense,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: and you're not kicking a field goal, you're scoring a touchdown.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: That's the problem.
• 25:42
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: It's not just the offense. It's not just the offense.
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: No.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: There's lots of problems.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Lots of problems. Can they be corrected and fixed? Hope so.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: I'd love to say absolutely yes. 100%. I can't say that.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I think so.
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: I think so.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: But I mean, well, I thought Lund, like of all
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: the nonsense Lund talked about, let's go back. He did
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: tell us when Flory was hired, he's like, really?
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Like, really?
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: Him?
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: So anyway, that's it. Let's get to it. Factor Fiction.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: We're set to go. Glad you're with us.
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• 26:50
  Speaker 7: We're going to go straight to the Thursday night game.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: Jacksonville's defense is pretty good. Jacksonville's offense is pretty good.
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: The Ravens don't even know who their quarterback is. They
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: don't have a quarterback that's really played in a game.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: They're going with the kid from Connecticut, I guess.
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: They've got their quarterback options right now. They've got Joe Fagnano,
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: the guy that played the other day who has an
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: ankle injury. He practiced with his ankle taped up.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: Keaton Slovis.
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: Just signed him off the Packers practice squad, and then
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: they added Austin.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: Reed to the practice squad. Of course. Household names all
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: the way around.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: Yes, exactly.
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: I mean, we know that Daniel Jones isn't great, but
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: he's better than any of those three quarterbacks, and the
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: Jaguars handled the Colts very easily the other day.
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: They're only favored by 10.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: So give me the Jags.
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: Minus the 10 at the Ravens Thursday night football.
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: Let's go.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Jacksonville minus 10 at Baltimore. Fact 49451. If you disagree,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: fiction 49451. I like the pick.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Thank you. It's a big number.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: Big number.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Big number.
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: They just beat the Colts 42-7.
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: And Bills beat the Ravens like 32-10.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: It's going to come to fruition. They're going to win
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: big going away. And they'll win big going away early.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: And my guy Trevor Lawrence will be benched and sat
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: on the sideline for most of the second half because
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: I need him.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: Perfect.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: That's what's going to happen.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean, we're setting up for just a
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: perfect situation.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: Damn it.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, it'll be a good Factor Fiction win. Already
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: we have a Factor Fiction loss this week. Christopher Kidd
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: took the Seahawks minus three.
• 28:20
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: I would have liked to think that was a good pick.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: I know, and I'm glad he took it because I
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: probably would have.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: And we would be 0-1.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we would, and we're not.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: By the way.
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: Can't go 5-0 if we lose the first one.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Did you see, too, what happened last week?
• 28:36
  Speaker 10: What?
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Those guys went 5-0.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I did.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: The guys after us.
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, and I hate that.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Nobody likes that.
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Except for the three of them.
• 28:44
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: So, again, nobody likes it.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: Because nobody likes the three of them.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: That's pretty much it. That's exactly it.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're sitting fourth right now at 11-20 on
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: the year.
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we're going through a slump.
• 28:57
  Speaker 10: But you know what?
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: Last week was better. This week's going to be even better.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: We are only one game behind Softie and Fane, despite
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: the fact that they went... 5-0 last week.
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, they needed that 5-0 just to get back
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: in it.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're right there. We're hanging around. We're hanging around. Ashley,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: the pick one more time is.
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: Jacksonville minus the 10 at Baltimore Thursday night football.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Baltimore's an absolute... You know, it's a hard thing.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Here you are, and you're hoping, praying. You're like, let's
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: get it going. Let's get the season going. And then
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: you lose your starting quarterback. And they have a good backup.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Tyler Huntley's okay. Snoop Huntley can play.
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, except they, yeah.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: But then he's hurt.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 29:38
  Speaker 9: I mean, I.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: And turf toe, so they're not thinking he's coming back.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: He ain't coming back. He ain't coming back anytime soon
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: if he comes back at all. So, yeah, you're pretty
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: much at four. Like, your four and four looks way
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: different than Seattle's four and four if you're Baltimore.
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because yours is looking like it's about to go
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: to four and five real fast.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, and meanwhile, our team is a four and four,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: and we're like, eh, things aren't great, but you could
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: be Baltimore because you could. I mean, that'd be like
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: if you had to go past. I mean, I guess
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Jalen Milrow is their version, right? But I'll take Milrow
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: over the kid from UConn all day.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah but even then you'd be like oh yeah i.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Mean i yeah i wouldn't feel good about it and
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: for those asking last night yet drew lock was inactive
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: he was dressed as the third quarterback he could have
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: played but if he would have played it would have
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: to be good the guys are hurt so it wasn't
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: like if if you were hating yourself some sam darnold
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: last night and i know a lot of people were
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: there was no drew arnold drew lock option no it
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: was a hundred percent Sam Darnold, because Jalen Milrow is
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: number two. Ashley going again with Jacksonville, 5-2 on the season,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: leading by three games, by the way, the AFC South.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: They're the tallest short person there, but actually, they're pretty good.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: They're actually pretty good. So Trevor Lawrence and Company, minus 10,
• 30:51
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• 30:56
  Speaker 2: By the way, why are you texting? $ 1, 000 on the
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• 31:02
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• 31:04
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• 31:07
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• 31:09
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• 31:12
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• 31:15
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• 31:17
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• 31:21
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• 31:25
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• 31:28
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• 31:30
  Speaker 2: with us, and 335 with the Mahler Extravaganza, which is
• 31:35
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• 31:37
  Speaker 2: he'll blow in here, spread his joy and sunshine next.
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: A manager that hell we could go get a manager
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: from one of the high schools go hire one of
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: them let them coach the team the puppet show here
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: by jared over and over again i'm sick of that yeah.
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: Well that's fine okay so the one second of it
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: i didn't listen to oh my gosh all right in
• 32:06
  Speaker 7: there that's.
• 32:07
  Speaker 12: The one second that'll get you It'll get you.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: People are angry today.
• 32:11
  Speaker 10: Angry.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: I don't blame them for being angry.
• 32:13
  Speaker 12: I mean, this is one of those either A, we're
• 32:17
  Speaker 12: smarter than everybody else, or we are complete morons. There's
• 32:22
  Speaker 12: no in between. Because if this doesn't work with Kanzler,
• 32:25
  Speaker 12: I assume that's what the guy was yelling about, then
• 32:28
  Speaker 12: you're going to get fried.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: You're going to get barbecued.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: I think today... For a couple reasons. One, what happened
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: last night at Lumen Field.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: And two, because it's the Mariners, as that guy was saying.
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Pat Murphy could have resigned from Milwaukee.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: They scoop him up and hire him, bring him here.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: And, well, there's a reason he resigned from Milwaukee. It's
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: a horrible hire. It's a horrible hire. I think you
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: were hitting the nail on the head there for a
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: little bit.
• 32:56
  Speaker 12: That it's the combination of we got pasted last night,
• 33:00
  Speaker 12: and then they go out and hire this computer dork
• 33:03
  Speaker 12: to be your next manager. I mean, look, that's not
• 33:06
  Speaker 12: fair of me to say. I don't know anything about
• 33:08
  Speaker 12: the guy. Nobody does until 2 o'clock tomorrow. He might
• 33:10
  Speaker 12: be a freaking genius. I just, again, think this, that
• 33:14
  Speaker 12: if this doesn't work, it's going to be very easy
• 33:18
  Speaker 12: for fans to rip this franchise a new one. You
• 33:21
  Speaker 12: went out and you hired a guy with no experience
• 33:23
  Speaker 12: whatsoever who never played the game. It doesn't appear that
• 33:27
  Speaker 12: he was your first, second, or third choice. I think
• 33:30
  Speaker 12: it's fair to wonder if anybody wants to work with Jerry, honestly,
• 33:33
  Speaker 12: who's got any managerial experience whatsoever. And if this is
• 33:38
  Speaker 12: one of those moves that you make and it doesn't work,
• 33:41
  Speaker 12: you just come across as what everybody else thinks you are.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: Arrogant.
• 33:45
  Speaker 12: And that you're smarter than everybody because you're the team
• 33:48
  Speaker 12: that's going to go out and make a move like this,
• 33:50
  Speaker 12: and it's going to work when it went for anybody else.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: It's going to be brilliant. Or it's going to be,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: there's probably no in-between with this hire. It's yes or no.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: We'll hear from him tomorrow. Two o'clock news conference. We'll
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: carry that live.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, looking forward to it. I think you guys are
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: trying to get him on, right?
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: Hopefully.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see.
• 34:04
  Speaker 12: I mean, I just want to ask him, and I
• 34:05
  Speaker 12: told Dick and Jackson this a month ago. Guys, look,
• 34:09
  Speaker 12: all I want out of a manager is somebody who's
• 34:12
  Speaker 12: going to come in and hold people accountable.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Change their culture, right?
• 34:15
  Speaker 12: Like we were joking on the text thread today, and
• 34:18
  Speaker 12: I think it's actually appropriate that What do you do
• 34:21
  Speaker 12: when a guy throws a ball into the stands with
• 34:23
  Speaker 12: one out? What do you do when a guy messes
• 34:26
  Speaker 12: up on the base pads or is covering home plate
• 34:29
  Speaker 12: and has no idea?
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: On a foul ball.
• 34:30
  Speaker 12: On a foul ball, like a Rosarito, whatever.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: What are you going to do? How do you handle
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: that stuff? Well, you know, we just– okay, right? Like, honestly.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: I think that's– I'm really curious to find out what
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: kind of personality the guy's got tomorrow. Think there's any
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: accountability in the offensive coordinator office today with Mike McDonald?
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there should be.
• 34:51
  Speaker 12: I mean, did you see the second play of the game?
• 34:55
  Speaker 12: Second play of the game. We'll talk to Millen about this.
• 34:59
  Speaker 12: I heard him with you, but just one.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: More at four.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: More at four with you. So this isn't, it's okay
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: now because nothing happened. I didn't see it, but then
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: I started hearing about it.
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: So the flyover yesterday, was it just not the start
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: of what was to come?
• 35:15
  Speaker 12: That's what you call a harbinger. That is what you
• 35:17
  Speaker 12: call a harbinger.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Things to come.
• 35:19
  Speaker 12: Or as they say in Boston, a harbinger of things
• 35:22
  Speaker 12: to come.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I just. People didn't see it. Tell
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: them what happened.
• 35:25
  Speaker 12: Well, I was in my seats yesterday, and I was.
• 35:29
  Speaker 12: six of us, and I look up and I was
• 35:31
  Speaker 12: taping the, were those Blackhawks?
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: Chinooks?
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: What were they?
• 35:35
  Speaker 12: And I'm taping the choppers as they're going over doing
• 35:38
  Speaker 12: their flyby, which I love flybys.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: I think flybys are freaking awesome. I love when they
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: do that.
• 35:45
  Speaker 12: And the last one going north barely makes it over
• 35:49
  Speaker 12: the scoreboard, the lumen sign.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, the hawk's nest end.
• 35:53
  Speaker 12: Hey, hawk's nest end, correct. And the fireworks start going off.
• 35:58
  Speaker 12: I mean, I don't know. I'm like, you know, the pilot,
• 36:01
  Speaker 12: you know, who knows what he's been through and he
• 36:05
  Speaker 12: looks down and he sees fireworks coming at him. I mean,
• 36:08
  Speaker 12: I don't know, man. I mean, I just, I think
• 36:10
  Speaker 12: you said it well that somebody's getting game ops guys
• 36:13
  Speaker 12: in trouble. Somebody's getting an ass chewing.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, at minimum today, right?
• 36:17
  Speaker 12: Like you did what you couldn't wait until the last
• 36:20
  Speaker 12: chopper was clear of the stadium to light those things off.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Now, the other thing I heard, the anthem was bad.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: I didn't hear the anthem. Okay, some metal singer. I
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: got in late, and I was walking in my seats.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: Did you see Holmgren?
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: I did.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: I got there just in time.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Phenomenal.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: He was great. He was great.
• 36:33
  Speaker 12: Did you find it appropriate, by the way, on the
• 36:36
  Speaker 12: night Mike Holmgren raised the flag, they ran a draw
• 36:38
  Speaker 12: on 3rd and 18?
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: To George Helani.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: Yes, I did.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: They actually did that last week. I think they did
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: it last week, too. I think you're right. I started
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: screaming at the TV, and the young guys around me
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: are like, what does that mean?
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Who's Max Strong, and why are you Max? I'm like, well,
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: I love Max.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Strong, but I never liked seeing Max Strong carry the
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: ball and just give up a little bit.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: What a disaster yesterday, man.
• 37:00
  Speaker 12: Yeah, well, I mean, we talked about this on the
• 37:02
  Speaker 12: show a week ago that, you know, we kind of
• 37:04
  Speaker 12: just had a little bit of concerns about it, you know,
• 37:06
  Speaker 12: and my concerns were more, to be honest with you,
• 37:08
  Speaker 12: just based on the fact that I'm a Lunatic fan
• 37:11
  Speaker 12: and eight days of waiting around is causing... Too much
• 37:14
  Speaker 12: for you. A lot of paralysis by analysis.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: Too much for you. You know what I'm talking about?
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.
• 37:17
  Speaker 8: I do.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: So you get to that point.
• 37:19
  Speaker 12: I mean, look, you know, there was going to be
• 37:21
  Speaker 12: a game this year where the defense got shoved around.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: They're human.
• 37:24
  Speaker 12: The 85 Bears had a night like that on Monday
• 37:27
  Speaker 12: Night Football.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Last year it was Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay, right?
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 37:31
  Speaker 12: They're not going to go the entire year and smoke everybody.
• 37:35
  Speaker 12: I don't know if I thought it would happen. Monday,
• 37:36
  Speaker 12: on Monday Night Football, at home, at Lumen Field, the
• 37:42
  Speaker 12: way they played against Mahomes the week before.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: They do have to clean up the red zone defense, though.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: 32nd in the league, 4 for 4 last night. All right,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: so more 4 with Hugh. More 4 with Hugh. Honks
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: at 6 tonight. We're going to move them to 6.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: That's not, doesn't fit my schedule.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 37:59
  Speaker 12: I like to listen to those guys. Why don't you
• 38:00
  Speaker 12: tell me what fits your schedule and we'll make it happen.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: Four o'clock. Fine, we'll do it at four.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: You tell Hugh we don't need him. Hawks at six,
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: John Wilner at five.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Obviously, we're going to talk about.
• 38:10
  Speaker 12: The move by the Mariners today, but focus mostly on
• 38:13
  Speaker 12: the Hawks and.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Their train wreck of a disaster last night. Okay. It's
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: all uplifting.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Great.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: Good stuff. This is all positive coming up with David Mahler.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: See ya. Next.
• 38:24
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