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CLASSIC: When Vikings Loot The Wrong Town · Ridiculous History

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  Speaker 1: Fellow ridiculous historians, We've all been there. You're a Viking.
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  Speaker 1: You're out there to rave and ravage and pillage, and
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  Speaker 1: then lo and behold, you run to the wrong town.
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  Speaker 2: And now you're trying to get your plunder on, and
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  Speaker 2: you went in the wrong cardinal direction. So you can't
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  Speaker 2: be both ferocious and have a good sense of direction.
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  Speaker 1: Right right, right, And as we'll find in today's classic episode,
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  Speaker 1: our buddies half Dan and Bjorn not to be an
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  Speaker 1: old classic half Dan, they wanted to be known for
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  Speaker 1: their ability to be the best Vikings out there. They
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  Speaker 1: wanted people to tell stories about them in the oral
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  Speaker 1: history of their community. But they accidentally went to the
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  Speaker 1: wrong place.
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  Speaker 2: It's true. Let's jump right into the story already in progress.
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  Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome to the
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  Speaker 1: show Ridiculous Historians and Possible Viking Descendants.
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  Speaker 2: My name is Ben, my name is Nol. I used
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  Speaker 2: to have a little red in my beard. Does that
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  Speaker 2: mean I'm a possible Viking descendant?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it means you definitely have the possibility of that
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  Speaker 1: red hair gene. You know, we would need to we
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  Speaker 1: need to do some more testing. I also have a
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  Speaker 1: red beard when I grow it out. And in the
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  Speaker 1: part of Tennessee where I'm from, there is this old
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  Speaker 1: folk saying about how you can't trust someone who has
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  Speaker 1: two different colors of facial hair, So like I have
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  Speaker 1: brown hair on my head and then red hair on
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  Speaker 1: my face, not to be trusted.
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  Speaker 2: What about people with two different color eyes? Because I
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  Speaker 2: have the two different colored beard and two different color eyes,
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  Speaker 2: I mean I'm super untrustworthy.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, not in not in my part of
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  Speaker 1: the world heterochromia. They seem fine with that.
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  Speaker 2: They think I'm a witch. I think you might have
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  Speaker 2: to have.
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  Speaker 1: A milky eye or very like apparently different eye, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But you know who is super trustworthy? You know? Tell
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  Speaker 1: me our super producer, Casey Pegram, who is also, I
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  Speaker 1: believe not not a Viking. Is that correct, Casey?
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  Speaker 2: That is correct? Yes, I mean he's not an active Viking.
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  Speaker 2: His raiding days are behind him, right, I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to talk about it fair enough, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So we were talking about Viking names a little bit
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  Speaker 1: before we went on the air today and one of
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  Speaker 1: the questions, one of the questions, I ad we have
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  Speaker 1: one character in this story named hastein the raider, and
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  Speaker 1: the question is how many raids do you have to accomplish?
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  Speaker 1: How many do you have to rack up or have
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  Speaker 1: under your belt for that to become part of your name.
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  Speaker 2: I know I said save it for the pod and
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  Speaker 2: you did not like that.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of like telling someone to shut up.
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  Speaker 2: That's not true.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the end. It just no.
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  Speaker 2: It just means this conversation would be best had it
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  Speaker 2: spontaneously in one go, instead of doing it once and
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  Speaker 2: then trying to do it again, because the magic is
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  Speaker 2: never the same.
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  Speaker 1: Ben, I see where you're coming from. But it is
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  Speaker 1: like telling someone to shut up.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Ben, that's fair.
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  Speaker 1: But but I seriously wonder though, Nola is like, do
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  Speaker 1: you do one raid or do you do five?
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  Speaker 2: That's a really good question. I mean, surely there's a
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  Speaker 2: metric for these things. Or maybe he gave himself his
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  Speaker 2: own nickname. Ooh, good call, that's interesting. I bet that's
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  Speaker 2: I bet that's true because it is kind of a
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  Speaker 2: badass nickname. Oh yeah, And you can tell in a
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  Speaker 2: lot of these stories when someone has a not quite
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  Speaker 2: complimentary nickname like Charles the Bald or something exactly. That
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  Speaker 2: was probably bestowed upon him by people that didn't care
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  Speaker 2: for him too much.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, propaganda. But why why are we talking about Vikings today?
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  Speaker 2: Who?
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  Speaker 1: What's this deal with hasting the.
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  Speaker 2: Raider, Costing the Raider and his homie Bjorn Ironside, great name,
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  Speaker 2: also a great name. They they did a little military blunder.
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  Speaker 2: That's a lot of fun. It involves some sort of
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  Speaker 2: trojan Horse like tactics. It involves possible decapitation of members
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  Speaker 2: of the clergy, and a whole lot of raping and
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  Speaker 2: pillaging and rating along the way.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, at least that is if they actually existed.
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  Speaker 1: That's the strange part.
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  Speaker 2: I hate that part about history where it's like, God,
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  Speaker 2: this is so great, but it's probably not true.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it or they'll try to make it a little
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  Speaker 1: more optimistic and say they may have been real people.
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  Speaker 1: You're thinking, what, I'm so invested in this story right now,
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  Speaker 1: so take it with a grain of salt. This was
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  Speaker 1: a long long time ago. Hastein was a Viking chieftain
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  Speaker 1: in the late ninth century, and some of the characters
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  Speaker 1: in today's story are going to be familiar to you.
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  Speaker 1: If you are a fan of the television series Vikings.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it's true.
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  Speaker 1: Do you ever check that out?
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  Speaker 2: I haven't. I watched a little bit of it here
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  Speaker 2: and there, But I also know apparently it takes quite
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  Speaker 2: a few liberties with some of these stories as well,
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  Speaker 2: and their depiction of the character of Bjorn Ironside, he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't quite do what he probably actually did in the
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  Speaker 2: historical accounts because it helped them with their storyline a
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  Speaker 2: little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Ah, yeah, I see what you're saying. Was that on
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  Speaker 1: History Channel?
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  Speaker 2: I think it was like the weird, anomalous, like big
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  Speaker 2: budget kind of Game of Thronesy type show on the
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  Speaker 2: History Channel. That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let us know if you're a fan, and let
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  Speaker 1: us know what you think they got right or wrong.
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  Speaker 1: But this is a as much as we can determine
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  Speaker 1: an historically true tale.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't seem that way.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so we don't know much about hastein the
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  Speaker 1: Raider his early life aside for the fact that you know,
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  Speaker 1: he raided a bunch of stuff. It's right, it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: around it now. And he came from a well established bloodline.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. All signs point to him being the son of
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  Speaker 2: a Ragnar Lothbrock, and apparently that was also Bure and
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  Speaker 2: Ironside's father, so they were possibly brothers.
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  Speaker 1: They were possibly brothers, or because bloodline was such a
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  Speaker 1: big deal in this culture at this time, it is
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  Speaker 1: also completely possible that Hastin just said that to try
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  Speaker 1: to get some more street cred. Ship cred got it vikings.
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  Speaker 2: So these vikings, they they kind of had a singular mission,
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  Speaker 2: didn't they.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they had the raiding economy. If you want
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  Speaker 1: to call it that, oh I do. It's a it's
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  Speaker 1: a It's a huge part of the life of this culture,
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  Speaker 1: so much so that of course people would get appellations
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  Speaker 1: or names for their performance or lack of performance in
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  Speaker 1: a raid, and if if there was a really well
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  Speaker 1: done raid, then it would become part of this orld tradition.
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  Speaker 1: It was a legend. So Ragnar Lothbrock one of his
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  Speaker 1: big claims to fame was the sacking of Paris. This
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  Speaker 1: occurred in eight forty five and five thousand vikings led
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  Speaker 1: by Ragnar took over Paris. It was the largest, richest,
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  Speaker 1: most defended city in Northern Europe. This was this was
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  Speaker 1: like a very violent proto heist right, and the king
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  Speaker 1: of the time, Charles the Bald, paid a huge ransom
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  Speaker 1: of seven thousand pounds of silver to Ragnar just to
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  Speaker 1: make them go away.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll do it. So that's what a sacking is, right.
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  Speaker 2: It's so interesting that term because I think of it
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  Speaker 2: in the British parlance as getting fired, but it also
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  Speaker 2: means like getting kind of conquered, which I guess they
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  Speaker 2: sort of mean the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it completely I guess I could see that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's an interesting etymology. Well that's seven thousand pounds of silver.
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  Speaker 1: Did not work. They returned a decade later to sack
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  Speaker 1: the city again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no honor among Vikings, I guess, yes, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And the French in that time were prepared and they
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  Speaker 1: were able to fight the Vikings off. But then in
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  Speaker 1: eight fifty seven, Bjorn Ironside, son of Ragnar, actual son,
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  Speaker 1: he takes his crew and they returned to Paris. But
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  Speaker 1: they noticed that Paris is in ruins. Only after they're
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  Speaker 1: done looting, only four out of the what twenty five
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  Speaker 1: to thirty something churches were left standing. And they were
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  Speaker 1: encouraged by this wanton mayhem, this gleeful destruction, and they said,
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  Speaker 1: you know what raids are cool? Raids are super cool,
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  Speaker 1: but Paris has kind of been done. Let's go for
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  Speaker 1: something bigger.
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  Speaker 2: Why was it in such ruins, Ben?
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  Speaker 1: So from eight forty five to eight fifty seven, we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about three different sackings. There's not enough time for
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  Speaker 1: the city to really repair it. So, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you can only squeeze so much. I was
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  Speaker 1: gonna see milk from a cow, but that seems weird.
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  Speaker 1: You can't get blood from a stone.
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  Speaker 2: Poor Paris. Yeah, haven't they had enough? I mean, so
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  Speaker 2: that's basically what the takeaway was, right, That's what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: They were literally like, you know what I think? Uh,
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  Speaker 2: I think we're gonna leave them alone this time, right right,
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  Speaker 2: pretty much right now, Ben, we should probably really quickly
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  Speaker 2: mention that Hostein was such a badass that he actually
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  Speaker 2: had quite a few names, whether they were aliases or
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  Speaker 2: other nicknames, but he was known as aka half Dan.
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  Speaker 2: That's my favorite one, by the way. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 2: like half a he's got a full day. He's half
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  Speaker 2: the d he used to be.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, half the Dan you used to be.
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  Speaker 2: I like that. He's also allsting and also hasting with
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  Speaker 2: that really cool ae combined letter. What do you call
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  Speaker 2: that ben.
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  Speaker 1: Technically speaking, it's a grapheme formed from the letters A
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  Speaker 1: and E. It originally represented the Latin diphthong ae. Just
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  Speaker 1: sort of got smushed into one thing.
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  Speaker 2: Got it. Got it? So at this point, Hastein and
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  Speaker 2: Bjorn decide to make their way to the south of
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  Speaker 2: France on the Lore Riverluir. Ah, Casey on the case.
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  Speaker 1: You know what usually we I thought it was always
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  Speaker 1: vampire rules with you, Casey, we invoke you. I thought
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  Speaker 1: we had to invite you in now to jump in there.
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  Speaker 2: He couldn't. He couldn't. He couldn't let that that gross
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  Speaker 2: mispronunciation stand. Just trying to save us all some emails.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate it, buddy, I appreciate it. So we're lure
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  Speaker 2: lure luar. So yeah, So they're sailing, I believe, a
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  Speaker 2: fleet of sixty two ships down the Luire River. Excuse me,
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  Speaker 2: in case you don't need to have you popping into
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  Speaker 2: my head again.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And they're going to the Iberian Peninsula. So where they
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  Speaker 2: are is in what is today modern day France, and
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  Speaker 2: then they're going to what is now Spain and Portugal,
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  Speaker 2: and along the way they don't always do too hot
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  Speaker 2: because they're kind of persona on grada at this point.
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  Speaker 2: They keep running around sacking places and pillaging and just
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  Speaker 2: having their way. So people are kind of wise to
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  Speaker 2: them a little bit at this point, aren't they.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is all during this time, This is part
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  Speaker 1: of the Umad Caliphate, and you could only do this
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  Speaker 1: kind of thing so many times before people start realizing
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  Speaker 1: there's trouble afoot, you know what I mean, unless you
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  Speaker 1: kill everyone in the town you attack. So they did
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  Speaker 1: not have a flawless record. In fact, when they were
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  Speaker 1: raiding ships along the Glacian coast, they found that the
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  Speaker 1: local resistance overall was just too strong. So they weren't
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  Speaker 1: moving because they were maybe seeking greater riches. They were
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  Speaker 1: seeking easier targets, easier pickings, easier pickings. That's how a
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  Speaker 1: lot of predators work, you know. And so they moved
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  Speaker 1: on to pillage the west coast of the emirate, and
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  Speaker 1: there they started encountering more success. So the coast guardard
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  Speaker 1: of the time captured two long ships scouting ahead of
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  Speaker 1: the main fleet, and they found that these ships, these
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  Speaker 1: scout ships, were already full of treasure and food and
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  Speaker 1: slaves or captives that were destined to be enslaves.
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  Speaker 2: So at this point they're almost in, they're almost switching
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  Speaker 2: their tactics to more traditional pirate kind.
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  Speaker 1: Of right, right right, and they suffer another defeat when
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  Speaker 1: they land in southwest Spain. The fleet next goes to
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  Speaker 1: the mouth of the guattle Quavier with the intention, maybe
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  Speaker 1: historians guests, of attacking Seville for a second time. But
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  Speaker 1: then they got confronted by the Moorish fleet. These were
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  Speaker 1: actual trained soldiers, They had maritime war tactics. These were
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  Speaker 1: not just helpless fishing community.
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  Speaker 2: And didn't they lose a whole bunch of ships and
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  Speaker 2: men in this confrontation?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because the Moorish Fleet had incendiary weapons. They were
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  Speaker 1: literally lighting them up, And yeah, the ships burned, people died.
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  Speaker 2: What did the Vikings used typically? Were they using like
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  Speaker 2: I mean axes, I imagine in close combat? But what
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  Speaker 2: what would they use in ce combat? Do you think?
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  Speaker 3: Well?
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  Speaker 1: One thing we know for sure is that it was
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  Speaker 1: a long standing rule of theirs to leave town, to
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  Speaker 1: leave the scene if resistance was too strong. That's why
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  Speaker 1: they're raiders, you know what I mean. So if we
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  Speaker 1: if we're guessing, we know that a lot of their
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  Speaker 1: fleets had little to know cohesion, you know, it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of like more like a convoy on the road.
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  Speaker 2: I see.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So they didn't attack ships with the intent of
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  Speaker 1: destroying them. They wanted to board them. So one of
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  Speaker 1: their common tactics was to try to ram ships and
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  Speaker 1: then once they're close enough, jump on the show.
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  Speaker 2: There you go, and then they probably go to town
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  Speaker 2: with those battle axes right with them. But I do
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  Speaker 2: believe they also used bows and arrows and spears and
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  Speaker 2: things like that, and I could picture shooting volleys of arrows,
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  Speaker 2: you know, onto other ships. Possibly I don't know, I
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  Speaker 2: can't confirm that, but it seems like that would be
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  Speaker 2: one way of getting it done.
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  Speaker 1: M Yeah, yeah, agreed. So typically their their aim was
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  Speaker 1: to get in close quarters to kill enslave plunder. But
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  Speaker 1: this other fleet that is well well accustomed to maritime
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  Speaker 1: ship on ship warfare, they're you know, they're Wu Tang style.
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  Speaker 1: They're nothing to with Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: For sure, No, And I mean they were designed for
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  Speaker 2: that purpose of ramming as well. I mean the way
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  Speaker 2: the whole the whole ship was kind of built with
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  Speaker 2: that in mind.
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  Speaker 1: And so as as we said, Noel, they encounter professional
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  Speaker 1: naval forces, and they get the horns slapped off the helmets, which,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, is a stereotype, and they were barely
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  Speaker 1: able to make their way home. The few that were
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  Speaker 1: left alive were forced to pay a ransom to escape.
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  Speaker 1: But this defeat, this ignominious defeat, did not scare or
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  Speaker 1: extinguish the thirst for vast treasures in glory on the
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  Speaker 1: part of Bjorn Ironside and Hastin half Dan, half Damn.
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  Speaker 2: I love half Dan. So at this point they've had
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  Speaker 2: some wins, they've had some losses, you know, but they
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  Speaker 2: still want more. That's sort of the nature of this
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  Speaker 2: kind of life, right, You don't really rest on your laurels,
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  Speaker 2: you know, otherwise you'll be seen as weak and then
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  Speaker 2: you won't be the toughest viking in the sea, right,
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  Speaker 2: and then what's the point. What's the point? Well, no,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's kind of like mob rules, right, Like if
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  Speaker 2: it's as soon as you let up and stop, you know,
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  Speaker 2: kicking people's asses all the time and taking collections, then
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, someone else is going to move
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  Speaker 2: in on your turf. So they couldn't have that. And
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  Speaker 2: I think we've all heard that expression all roads lead
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  Speaker 2: to Rome. At this time. That was especially true because
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  Speaker 2: Rome was seen as like the crown jewel of sackable places, right, Like,
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  Speaker 2: that's the one that you would guarantee to have a crazy,
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  Speaker 2: incredible haul because it was full of riches and wealth,
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  Speaker 2: and it like we had this whole you know, civilized
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  Speaker 2: society with culture and like it was just practically the
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  Speaker 2: streets were paved with gold right in the minds of
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  Speaker 2: these vikings and the minds these vikings. And this leads
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  Speaker 2: us to another character. We have to introduce the Norman
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  Speaker 2: monk Dudo of Saint Quentin. Ah Dudo, Dudo, dude.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, we don't know a ton about this guy, except
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  Speaker 1: that he was born around nine sixty five, he was
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  Speaker 1: in the Norman court Normandy for a while, and in
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  Speaker 1: his second stay in Normandy he wrote his history of
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  Speaker 1: the Normans. And as for the rest of his life,
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  Speaker 1: we know that he died some time before ten forty three,
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  Speaker 1: So don't know a whole heck of a lot about him,
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  Speaker 1: but we do know that he is the source of
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  Speaker 1: the story that takes place next. Here's what happens. According
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  Speaker 1: to this story, You're on Ironside and then his buddy,
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  Speaker 1: half Dan. They land in a place after they've been
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  Speaker 1: raiding the coast of Africa and getting their butts whipped
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  Speaker 1: by some professional naval forces. They land somewhere in Italy,
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  Speaker 1: and they think, this is the most amazing city. Holy smokes,
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  Speaker 1: bro we made it. We're in Rome and we're about
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  Speaker 1: to get down.
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  Speaker 2: We are going to tear the place up. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: light it up yolo big time. It's a total Viking
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  Speaker 2: yellow sitch.
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  Speaker 1: So they want to use a little bit of cunning
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  Speaker 1: because from everything they know about Rome, it's huge, it's
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  Speaker 1: a home to opulent wealth, and it's probably very well protected. Right,
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  Speaker 1: So they said, there's no way we can take this
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  Speaker 1: by force, Like we're we're great guys, half Dan, but
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  Speaker 1: we we got to think this through. Let's let's see
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  Speaker 1: this through.
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  Speaker 2: Our usual bloodthirsty, ruthless kind of smash and grab techniques
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  Speaker 2: are not going to serve us in this particular situation. Yeah,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: half Dan, that's how that went. Yeah, this is this
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: is a recreat Okay.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: So then I say, okay, well, let's let's give it
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: a night, let's think on it. The next morning, a
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: small group of Vikings approaches the city walls, and they say,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: hold on, holda hi, hang on. I know we look crazy,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: dressed in furs, dirty and sea worn, but we have
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: not come to plunder you. We have no strength left.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: We're exhausted. We've been traveling a lot. Could you just
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: make peace with us and let us buy what we need,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: you know, like food and provisions. Our chiefs are we
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: can broken and we need help.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: And our boy half Dan here is not doing so well.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he is on death's door and he has seen
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: the light in the way of Rome. He seeks the
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: absolution of your religious leaders.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: And you know, let's.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Keep our opinions out of it, because he's the boss.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: So he needs to be baptized if he dies here.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: He wants to be buried in this city, a Christian burial,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: consecrated ground.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: So and I mean, I think you know that probably
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: like the word conversion is like catnip to these people,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean, it's like, okay, sure, the Heathens,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: you want one, will give one to God. Let's do it.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Let him in, open the gates. So I guess he
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: and like a couple of his associates come in right, and.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: You'll hear a couple of different versions of this story.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: In one story, Costiner half Dan is already dead quote unquote,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: and they his followers take this coffin in there to
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: just get the burial. And other versions of the story,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: he is taken in and he's the technical word is malingering.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: He's acting like he's a little more ill than he
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: actually is. And he sits through a baptism ceremony, right,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: the anointed him with holy ointment and oil, and he's
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: smiling and he falls backwards on a stretcher. He's carried
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: back to the ship by his companions, really doing a
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: real Miisner number. Yeah.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: And then after he gets carried back, they're doing a
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: con right. And so now the people trust that the
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Vikings are sincere. And again, according to Dudo, I love
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: that name. According to Dudo, this is when half Dan
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: says to his followers, when night comes, you should say
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: to the priest and the duke that I am dead,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: and fervently pray that I may be buried in this city.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Say that you want to give them the sword and
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: bracelet and everything that belongs to me.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Spooky stuff, right, treachery too, right, indeed, treachery most foul,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: and so they.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Go back and they say, our chief, as you have
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: just named him, is dead. We pray that you could
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: be buried in your convent and that you received these
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: rich gifts he gave for you on his deathbed. So hey,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: there's an upside for you Rome. But what happens next?
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Oh well, my favorite version of the story is when
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: he pops out of the coffin and slices off the
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: head of a priest and then says, you know, Yolo.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: And then he and his dudes charged back through the
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: city to the gate. They open it up to the horde,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: you know, the remaining foot soldiers, I guess. And then
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: something occurs to Bjorn or half Dan or Hastin. Hastin. Yes,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: it's a terrible realization, man, quite embarrassing really, and I'm
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: not sure what did it for them, but something there
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: was an aha moment or like an oh moment. What
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: did they realize.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: They had successfully sacked the wrong city, a completely different city.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: They were Viking rubes from the wild. They had no
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: idea that they never made it to Rome. Instead, they
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: were in a different town.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called a luna. And again, these are all
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: some questionable retellings of this because there are two different versions.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: We'll tell the other one in a second. But in
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: one version of this, they were so embarrassed that they
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: massacred the entire population of the city.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: They don't take well to surprises, I guess, so yeah.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: According to this version, they turn into full on lunatics.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: They kill everyone, or at least all the adult men,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: and then they say, okay, we're gonna keep sailing. We're
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: going southeast, maybe to Alexandria in Egypt or something, and
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: then they raid the Mediterranean for a few years than
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: they return home, never to tell people of their embarrassing
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: wrong turn.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: That's right. And then there's a whole other conflict involving
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Alfred the Great, where the forces of Hastein and Bjorn
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: are kicking it around Europe, the United Kingdom, specifically Wales. Actually,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: his family gets abducted by the forces of Alfred the
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Great and he ends up having to negotiate with him
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: to get this family returned to him, and one thing
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: leads to another, and he does not succeed, and he
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: more or less disappears from history around eight ninety six.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: There's really no more mention of Hastein. Half Dan allsting,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: whatever you want to call him. Yeah, yeah, you're correct.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: He disappears around eight ninety six. By then he is
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: an elderly man. He's been described as the lusty and
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: terrifying old warrior of the Luoch and the Psalm, and
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: we now know that he was one of the most
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: notorious and successful Vikings of all time. But can't be
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: that way without making enemies. So the Norman monk Dudo
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: of Saint Quentin was incredibly critical of our boy half Dan.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: He said, quote, this was a man accursed, fierce, mightily,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: cruel and savage, pestilent, hostile, sombra truculent, given to outrage,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: peestulent and untrustworthy, fickle and lawless, death dealing, uncouth, fertile
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: in ruses, wormonger, general traitor, fomentor of evil and double
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: diided dissimulator. Goodness, gracious, right, that is a war of words,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: right there, my friend.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Fertile in ruses is such a great insult.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: He also uses pestulent twice, which I couldn't help but
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: notice that. But yeah, so he definitely lives on in
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: infamy even after, you know, disappearing from the record.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: You're right, he doubled down a pestil. He really did,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: So the question then becomes a matter of how much
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: we can trust dudo. You know what I mean? Is
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: he just spinning tails to amuse himself or you know,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: what are his sources? So we can say that this
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: still counts as ridiculous history, despite the fact that many,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: many people died because these guys, if we are to
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: believe the story, were so intelligent that they figured out
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: a trojan horse type ruse or heist on their own, sure,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: but still didn't know what city they were in.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean it's not like they had all
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: the maps or anything. They were kind of just like
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: going by their gut, their Viking guts. So thank you
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: so much for tuning in everyone. We hope that you
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: enjoyed today. Every time I thought maybe it wasn't gonna
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: happen again every time. Yeah, it's.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Gentlemen, Strickland a quizt or as you like to call him,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: a quizzler. I take because it's like.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Using his name in vain.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: You know that quizzler is a trademarked candy coming straight
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: from the chocolate shop. I also happened to run.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Why are you announcing that in such an archway. I mean, congratulations, man,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: that's cool.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Evil candy.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: That's you sell those giant gobstopper things like the jawbreakers,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: you know that are impossible to fit in your mouth?
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Is it like that frustrating candy.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Right, Yes, the kind that you have to unhinge your
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: jaw in order to put it in, and then they're
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: just stuck, stuck with it.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Edgy inconvenient candy.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: We like to turn good kids into horrible kids and
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: then release them upon the world. I don't go in
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: for all this nonsense of taking evil kids and then,
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: you know, turning them into blueberries. That's just that's amateur work.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, this became a bit of an exercise to
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: throw some shade at Wonka. Huh, you get nothing, all right, you?
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Actually it's a little early for that good day, sir. Yes,
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: let's find out if you will lose, because we all
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: know that I've been summoned here, and that tis my want.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Whenever I find out, when I finally figure out who
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: is summoning you, the woe be unto them.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: I just say, there's a little button under one of
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: these desks, but someone pushes it a light comes on
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: at my desk and I run over here as fast
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: as my little legs can carries.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Is it like a bat phone kind of situation? Do
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: you have like a red telephone that blinks?
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Or teller of what join the twenty first century? Nol
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: hair All right, So as I understand that you're talking
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: about an invasion in this, so I sacking. I've come
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: up with my ans, my own invasion quandary. If you
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: do not understand those listening what is happening, I don't
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: blame you. You haven't bothered to explain it yet.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Oh let's do let's do that part. So this is
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: the This is the part of the show where you,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Jonathan strick In the Quiztor, arrive at the most unexpected moments,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: which tend to universally be towards the end of.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: The show, fully in disguise, despite the fact that you
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: have already established I am in fact Jonathan Strickland the Quiztor.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, these are all true things, and you are
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: here to once again test our knowledge. You are going
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: to give us a scenario. Is that correct?
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: That's a scenario, and then you will determine whether or
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: not in fact the scenario I present to you represents
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: a true event in history or if I made it
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: up seas, and you will have three minutes to do so.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: In that three minutes, you will also be allowed to
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: ask questions of me, but only if you first obey
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: a rule of arbitrary nature that I will come up
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: with at the time of the question. So first I
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: will give you the scenario. Then I will tell you
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: what the rule is you must follow to ask any questions,
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: and then we shall begin the Great Grandfather clock timer. Okay, guys,
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: I haven't touched that since daylight saving.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: No, okay, look irritating me.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: It's an entire hour.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: I don't support daylight saving time. For the record, I
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: choose to daylight waster. Yeah. Well, we just.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Spent so much money on this clock. Quick peek behind
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: the curtain. This was a television show originally, but we
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: blew the budget on this enormous clock, and that's my fault.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: And now we're a podcast.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: I still feel obligated to wear the costume.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Thank you man, Thank well. I just want to apologize.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. No, I'm sorry, Casey, I'm somewhat sorry. Jonathan,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: he's tight's chafy so where are we?
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Where's just scenario? Here we are. The year sixteen hundred
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: and twenty five saw an entire English invasion of Spain
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: called off on account of drunkenness. Allow me to explain
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: for complicated reasons involving a Spanish princess giving the cold
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: shoulder to Prince Charles, the son of James the First,
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: the Duke of Buckingham, wanted to use the English fleet
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: to put a hurt on Spain. James died in sixteen
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: twenty five, and his boy Chuck became Charles the First.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Chuck dissolved parliament and Buckingham got to have his invasion,
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: except he forgot to supply the boats. So the fleet
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: attacked Cadiz, Spain, and takes over a superfluous fort, and
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: the commander of the invasion, seeing that he didn't have
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: the food and supplies needed to feed his invasion force,
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: gave the English permission to sack the fort's supplies, and
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: so the English began to drink copious amounts of wine
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: until the entire force of fifteen thousand soldiers were drunk
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: as skunks. Seeing no way to victory, the commander ordered
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: a retreat and Spain's invasion was cut very short due
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: to public drunkenness. Now, your arbitrary rule is, before you
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: ask a question, you must make a toast.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Start the timer, a right, give running start, oh for,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: and we're off to the races. What do you think,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: maw m, he's so good at this, He's really good
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: at this.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: And I hate to say it. I hate to even
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: give a shred of a compliment to the quiztor, but
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: he really knows how to push my buttons. Yes, yes,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: let's see. That wasn't helpful for the question.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Valuable context man, A toast, A toast to half Dan,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: good enough, who's in the episode that we just did? Okay,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: so how common was wine at this time?
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: Extremely? Wine is ancient. And then this was Spain, which
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: is not that far from I don't know if you
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: know your geography France.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Also a toast to Tuba solos.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: You're not even trying, mister, but they're great.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Was was Spain a caliphate at that time?
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: This is immaterial of the question.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: I know, I've I've just tried to.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: I can give you a lot more details if you want.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: I can either make them up seas or I can
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: tell you real things about sixteen twenty five Spain.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: That's true. That's an irrelevant question my part, Nol, do
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: you have a question.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: I just don't even know where to start. I'm just
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: so flummixed by this one. I tend to lean towards.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I'm going with true. Okay, locket it three to one.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: True, you are current. Yeah, this actually did happen. Let
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: me explain what was happening, because the story gets so
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: much crazier. But really that was running a long already
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: and I didn't want to make it a super long one.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: So here's the story. We have James the first of
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: England and he wants to make peace with Spain. There
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: would been hostilities between the two nations for quite some time.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: You might have heard of a little thing called the
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: Spanish Arma. Elizabeth was all not having it anyway. To
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: a secure peace in the Renaissance really meant one thing,
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: which is mary one of your kids to one of
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: the snot nosed kids of the other place, and then
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: hope that everything turns out all right. So James reaches
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: out to see if perhaps they might be able to
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: arrange a marriage between a infanta of the Spanish royalty
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: and his son, Charles the First or Charles at that point.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: Then Charles and Buckingham went incognito to Spain. That means no,
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: they weren't letting everyone know who they were. Are you
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: kind of sending to me, sir? So they go to Spain.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: I think condescending means talk down to people.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: No, you're talking to an expert. The Infanta says, thanks,
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: but no thanks, Chuck, I don't think you're really revving
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: my engines. And so they were returned to England, Buckingham
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: immediately bucking him by the where it was one of
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: James the First's favorites, possibly lover, and they wanted to
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: immediately to create an invasion of Spain. James the First
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: didn't want to make things worse, so until he died,
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: which was in sixteen twenty five, that's how things stood.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Then they tried to get Parliament to agree to this invasion,
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: but they were worried that perhaps Parliament would agree to
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: the invasion but then not pay for it to happen,
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: so they waited until Charles. Now Charles the First dissolved parliament,
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: so parliament is not in session, and then they go
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: and mount this invasion. They hire a Dutch commander who
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: was a brilliant land soldier. Okay, take up this armada,
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: invade Spain. They take over a fort that doesn't remotely
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: give them access to the town they actually need to take,
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: and the only supplies they had any access to a wine.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: And then the commander says, tell you what, why you guys,
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: go ahead and get yourself something to drink because this
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: might take a while. And they got a rotten, stinging
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: drunk they ran away. One thousand English soldiers were left behind.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Not a single shot was fired in that invasion, and
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: all one thousand English soldiers were put to the sword. Cheerful,
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: cheerful into that story run.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Through as it were.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: They probably didn't notice, having been full of sack, which
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: is a very strong wine.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, we're back to the We're back to sack,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: you said, because we were debating. We were actually we
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: were trying to figure out on the fly while we
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: were recording the difference between sack, ransack and looting. And
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: there's not really one.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Well, and also sacks in getting fired in Britain, and
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: then sack is in taking over a city.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Well, and there's also sack, which is very strong wine.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Which I love. Now I'm going to refer to any
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: cheap cheap wine as sack should Henry.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Henry the fourth Part one False Staff is known for
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: his sack. That's a that's a pun as well.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I think we've okay, good so so very body, middle
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: school Shakespeare, A dirty dirty man is a baldy boy
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: middle school media? Was it completely off base? Jonathan Strickland
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: is also known as the Quizter. Thank you for returning
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: to the show. I think we're still a little behind him, might.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: Be only one behind me this point. I think we're
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: almost even. You know what that means?
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, going to get way worse. I don't know that
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: that's possible. You're kind of the worst.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I think. I think you're all right. I appreciate learning.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna use the word sack a lot more. I
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: feel like I never appreciated it.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: You're sort of a Carmen san Diego type figure, you know,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Carmen sacked.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: It's true that Rockapella sings wherever I go.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: So so I Jonathan, I feel like we don't say
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: this too often when you are on this show. You
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: can be found not just here but on your other podcast,
• 37:06
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• 37:16
  Speaker 1: So in the meantime, we hope that you enjoyed this story.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: If you find names as cool as half Dan or
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  Speaker 1: Pure and Ironside, let us know sack Man sack Man
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  Speaker 1: half half sack.
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  Speaker 2: We gotta get it. There happened.
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  Speaker 1: People can tell we're recorded on a Friday. Yeah, list
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  Speaker 2: a family.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I don't dare.
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  Speaker 1: No good there all the time.
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  Speaker 3: I know I'm there. I don't dare say it's a family.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that would be nice because.
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  Speaker 3: The holidays are coming up, but I already have a
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  Speaker 2: That's fair, That makes sense. Well, thanks to all of
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  Speaker 2: Ben for being such a good co host and friend
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  Speaker 2: and happy holidays and all that. Quister, Thanks, thank you,
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  Speaker 3: You know I gave you a little present as your desk.
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  Speaker 3: Don't drink it. I feel badly about it now.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, thanks for the heads up, Okay, you know what.
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  Speaker 1: and Chris frossiotis our research associate for this episode.
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  Speaker 2: And stay tuned for the next episode where we talk
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  Speaker 2: about the surprising roots of the Tooth Fairy. See you then.
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