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Vu Dinh- Dyansty Combat Sports Amateur Flyweight Champ · Caught on the Mike...

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SPEAKER_01: Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this program are those of the speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of any entities they represent.
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SPEAKER_01: Listener discretion is advised.
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SPEAKER_01: One of my most favorite things about having fighters on the show is the opportunity to dispel any preconceived notions people have about the sport of MMA and fighters in particular.
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SPEAKER_01: My next guest is no exception to the rule.
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SPEAKER_01: He is a combat medic in the Army National Guard.
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SPEAKER_01: He coaches youth wrestling.
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SPEAKER_01: He was a high school and collegiate wrestler himself, and currently he is Dynasty Combat Sports amateur flyweight champion.
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SPEAKER_01: His goals in life are structured around servitude to others and making the world a better place.
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SPEAKER_01: I'd like to welcome Vu Din to the show today.
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SPEAKER_01: Ladies and gentlemen, this is Caught on the Mic.
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SPEAKER_01: Ladies and gentlemen, I am sitting right across from Vu Din.
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SPEAKER_01: He is Dynasty's amateur flyweight champ as of December 9th, was it?
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SPEAKER_01: Eighth.
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SPEAKER_01: Eighth, yes.
1:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
1:34
SPEAKER_01: I was at that event.
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SPEAKER_01: It was a blast.
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SPEAKER_01: My daughter got to sing the national anthem.
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SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she did a wonderful job while we were in the cage.
1:42
SPEAKER_01: I uh that's awesome.
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SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
1:45
SPEAKER_00: That was really great.
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SPEAKER_01: I'll have to pass that on to on to her.
1:49
SPEAKER_01: So you and I were just talking a couple of minutes ago.
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SPEAKER_01: You've been fighting since 2019.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: How did you find your pathway to that?
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, I guess my first start to combat sports was back in seventh grade when uh I decided to go out for middle school wrestling.
2:08
SPEAKER_00: It was the first sport I ever did.
2:10
SPEAKER_00: Uh it was through LPS, Lincoln Public Schools.
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SPEAKER_00: It was free, you know.
2:14
SPEAKER_00: So I at first did it just to like hang out with my friends, but I found a passion for it.
2:19
SPEAKER_00: And like I had some sort of natural body awareness and talent to like pick up stuff pretty quick.
2:23
SPEAKER_00: So I decided to stick with that um all throughout high school and then rest of the all four years in high school, then afterwards, it's kind of took a little gap year.
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SPEAKER_00: I was originally gonna join the military after high school uh in the Marine Corps.
2:39
SPEAKER_00: I tried that out, uh, but my knee got injured in the process uh back in 2018, around June of that time frame.
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SPEAKER_00: So that was off the window, so I thought I'd come back, go and wrestle in college, but the college I wanted to go to was a little pricey, so I was like, eh, I'll take a gap year, just experience life a little bit.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's when uh was it I was kind of working around in Lincoln, Nebraska, but then one of my old uh club coaches, um Caleb Colb, four-year uh starter for Nebraska, former Husker, um, he's originally from Pennsylvania, but he came back to Lincoln for like a uh like youth wrestling camp, and I was helping run the camp.
3:18
SPEAKER_00: He's like, hey brother, we're like, what are you up to?
3:20
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I'm just kind of working right now.
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SPEAKER_00: It's like, hey, how about you uh, you know, come with me, live with me in uh Pennsylvania, rent-free, and uh I show you, you know, how to be an adult, have a fun time, and uh, you know, have some fun.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm like, shoot.
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SPEAKER_00: I was like, I can't really pass this up.
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SPEAKER_00: So I packed all my stuff up in about January of 2019.
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SPEAKER_00: Went up there, lived with him.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh like a volunteer assistant coach at the high school that he was uh coaching at, worked for his nonprofit, and I lived there for about three months, and in those three months, he was like, hey man, this is like your gap year.
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SPEAKER_00: It's like, what do you want to do?
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SPEAKER_00: What can I do to like make this memorable for you?
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SPEAKER_00: I'm like, uh I don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: I think it'd be cool if I got on a cage fight because he's like, you know a guy?
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SPEAKER_00: It's like I might know a guy, and then two weeks later he comes back to me, it's like, hey, what do you want to fight at?
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SPEAKER_00: 125 or 135?
4:09
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, You've you got you got you got me a fight?
4:12
SPEAKER_00: And he's like, Yeah, I know a guy.
4:14
SPEAKER_00: His name's uh like Chuck, and uh he runs fights out of uh like bars and stuff in uh for in Ohio.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm like, shoot, um I guess 125 because at the time I was like walking around 135, so I was like, heck yeah, let's just do 125.
4:29
SPEAKER_00: And he's like, cool, you got seven weeks to train, and I think it was like April 19th, so seven weeks to train for that.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh I just use like my time as a volunteer assistant coach, kind of as my strength conditioning for that first fight, uh to stay in shape, and then I joined a boxing gym, kind of picked up some striking, some YouTube, and then I don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh so my first fight going in, it's just like a lot of you know wrestling experience and uh just minimal like striking, but just enough to like get to my takedowns.
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SPEAKER_00: Um I didn't know who my opponent was until like two weeks out.
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SPEAKER_00: They finally gave me somebody, and they're like, Yeah, it's just uh guy, uh he's uh just a boxer.
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SPEAKER_00: So I think that'd be like a perfect matchup for you.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm like, dude, that's this is perfect.
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SPEAKER_00: It's like I just gotta get to his legs, maybe eat a couple of punches, and uh, you know, have it be mine.
5:16
SPEAKER_00: And it's exactly what happened.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh was it I circled in the cage and then was it?
5:23
SPEAKER_00: He tried throwing an overhand.
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SPEAKER_00: I saw it, I ducked it, double leg, ram halfway across the cage, uh, pound his face in, he gave me his back, double boots in, and then uh just went for the rear naked choke, uh, took my time, and yeah, that was the first one.
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SPEAKER_00: Wow!
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SPEAKER_01: So not only not only did you get in the cage for the first time with no experience, but you won your first fight.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, 48 seconds.
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SPEAKER_00: It was quick.
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SPEAKER_00: I know, I couldn't have written it any better if I uh if I had tried, man.
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SPEAKER_00: It was uh it was exhilarating.
5:54
SPEAKER_00: I was like, geez, this is what UFC fighters feel like like my goodness, this is living right here.
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SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
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SPEAKER_01: And you still help coach wrestling here in Lincoln since you've been back.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, uh absolutely.
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SPEAKER_00: So I actually started coaching at my old uh youth wrestling club at the time.
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SPEAKER_00: It was called uh CES Competitive Edge Sports.
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SPEAKER_00: I was in Lincoln, and then I would go on and off with them when I would uh move back from Pennsylvania and stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, but once I came back, actually after Pennsylvania, I worked on a fishing boat in Alaska for a few months.
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SPEAKER_00: This was to uh get money for school.
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SPEAKER_00: Um because I needed the the college that I wanted to go and wrestle for, they're division three, so they don't give out scholarships and tuition is very pricey because they are like a private school, so I needed money to uh afford it.
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SPEAKER_00: So I uh hit up another one of my off-season coaches, name's uh Gay J Anderson, his mom's like uh human resources for like big fishing companies out in Seattle and Alaska and stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: So she hooked me up with a gig on a boat for three months to uh you know just kind of go process some fish and then make some good money.
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SPEAKER_00: I made about 10k in the uh three months that I worked, and then that was enough to um you know pay for my school and for the next semester.
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SPEAKER_00: So what was it?
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SPEAKER_00: So I get back August of 2019, and then I start school, I wrestle in college, and then my free time I'll just go and uh you know do privates, coach, and help out at uh you know CES.
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unknown: Wow.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Wow.
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SPEAKER_01: So gaining that experience, moving from where we're at right now out to Pennsylvania, then moving to Alaska, kind of getting a little bit uh a travel under your belt.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: How do you feel that that's kind of influenced your story thus far?
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's it's only been five years, but I'm sure it feels like a lifetime and a short span of time all at the same time.
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SPEAKER_00: It doesn't feel super special to me, but when I like tell other people, like my friends and stuff, they're like, dude, you're like living the dream.
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SPEAKER_00: It's like I wish I would have had these experiences.
7:55
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I don't know, man.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm just kind of living life day by day, and whatever opportunities come, you know, I just say yes to it, just step outside of my comfort zone.
8:04
SPEAKER_00: And it's like, what if, you know, it's like it's gonna be tough like doing these things, but I feel like I have so much to gain from them.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's like, why not, you know, take up on this opportunity and stuff?
8:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Taking a step back, you were originally going to enlist in the Marine Corps, you said, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
8:19
SPEAKER_01: And so you still managed to find a pathway to the military.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
8:24
SPEAKER_01: How did that come about?
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SPEAKER_00: Oh man.
8:26
SPEAKER_00: Um, so I've always wanted to serve my country.
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SPEAKER_00: My uh grandpa, he was fought in the Vietnam War.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, he's actually a prisoner of war for three years.
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SPEAKER_00: That's uh the whole reason why me and my family are here right now, because I I was born in Vietnam originally, and I didn't immigrate here until I was one year old.
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SPEAKER_00: And I don't know, I just love America.
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SPEAKER_00: I've always wanted to, you know, give back.
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SPEAKER_00: So military has always you know been a passion because I think you know there's great structure that I can provide, uh, you know, uh for your life and a lot of opportunities for growth and like resources that you can use.
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SPEAKER_00: So I don't know, a part of me always wanted to go back, but I didn't really quite have any means at the time.
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SPEAKER_00: But uh eventually it came around in 2020.
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SPEAKER_00: So I'm going to school, 2019.
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SPEAKER_00: I wrestled for Nebraska Wesleyan for about a semester and a half, and then I did my second fight for Dynasty.
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SPEAKER_00: Um well was my first fight for Dynasty, but my second fight uh late 2020.
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SPEAKER_00: I do my second fight for them, and then I knew I wasn't gonna go back to school to wrestle because it was just getting pricey, like all the tuition and stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm like, geez, I need uh do something to like pay all this off, and then I see like some National Guard flyers that they'll help with like state tuition and among like other um you know opportunities and resources for you to grow.
9:51
SPEAKER_00: So I hit up my recruiter and uh you know, we start talking on what opportunities there is for me.
9:57
SPEAKER_00: And uh in the recruiting office, there's actually another recruiter, his name's uh Cody Keck.
10:02
SPEAKER_00: He also did fights for Dynasty and such.
10:06
SPEAKER_00: And so we got linked up pretty quick because they knew I did like had one fight and I wrestled.
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SPEAKER_00: And then I'm hitting up Dynasty.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm just like, well, I know I'm not gonna be in school next semester, so why not like do a fight?
10:18
SPEAKER_00: It's like I'm in good cardio shape and I'm sure like COVID's about to lift and all that stuff, so let's you know, hit up whoever the promoter is.
10:27
SPEAKER_00: So I hit up uh Andrew Train, uh the promoter's like, hey, do you have any more room left for like a 125 flyway?
10:33
SPEAKER_00: I'm wanting to got some college wrestling experience.
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SPEAKER_00: I know it's in like two weeks, but I got some awakening experience.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, it's like I'll take whoever, and then they're like, Alright, would you fight this guy?
10:42
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, Yeah, I'll do it.
10:43
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, shh crap, I need a cornerman.
10:46
SPEAKER_00: So I was like talking to my buddy Cody, and I was like, Hey, you want to corner me for this fight?
10:51
SPEAKER_00: It's like heck yeah.
10:52
SPEAKER_00: So then um I'm in like really good college wrestling shape, and then I hit uh and then me and Cody, we just crack pads, do some light sparring.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh there's not much strength and conditioning that we did, it's just technical flows and such, just getting to my takedowns and all that, and uh you know that's exactly what happened in the fight.
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SPEAKER_00: It was a three-round fight.
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SPEAKER_00: I got the submission in the third after taking my opponent down a bunch of times.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's when I was 2-0 after that fight.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh that was my debut for Dynasty.
11:22
SPEAKER_00: Um where's that?
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SPEAKER_00: So that was yeah, late 2020, and then I'm waiting for my papers, my like all my paperwork to go through for the National Guard.
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SPEAKER_00: But what was it?
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SPEAKER_00: I was missing my some of my immigration papers, so and that takes a long time to like order in, and COVID did not help with that process either.
11:42
SPEAKER_00: So it was like a whole year and a half wait that I had to wait for my paperwork to come through.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: So in the meantime, I just found a local job like working out of car wash, uh being a wash attendant, selling car memberships and such, and then just kind of training martial arts, like you know, for pastime hobby, and then just coaching.
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SPEAKER_00: So I did that for about a year and a half.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, had my third fight in, what was it, 2021?
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SPEAKER_00: So when I lost uh, who's it?
12:08
SPEAKER_00: Uh my buddy Seth Deach out from Iowa.
12:10
SPEAKER_00: It was a little late notice replacement, but uh then 2022.
12:16
SPEAKER_00: I had my fourth fight.
12:17
SPEAKER_00: I was against Hayden Primer from Kearney.
12:20
SPEAKER_00: He's coming off of uh two KO, like flying E KO knockouts.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and uh so I was like, dang, he's dangerous, but this fight, you know, it excites me.
12:30
SPEAKER_00: You're right.
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SPEAKER_00: It's my Jesus blowing.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, and it was gonna be my first fight like in Lincoln at Pinnacle.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I can't pass this up.
12:37
SPEAKER_00: And uh so that was May of 2022.
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SPEAKER_00: So I put it together full camp with uh all my coaches there, and um, you know, we're leveling up the striking, uh just figuring out ways to blend it in with my wrestling and uh just neutralize, you know, all of his you know weapons.
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SPEAKER_00: Um and that's what ended up uh happening the fight.
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SPEAKER_00: I won a three-round unanimous decision.
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SPEAKER_00: And so then that's where three and one at this point, yeah, three and one after shortly after that fight, my paperwork for the military finally comes into the map.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm like crazy, let's go.
13:13
SPEAKER_00: So we uh finally go up to the map station up in Omaha, and then we finally get the process rolling, and then I leave for boot camp for the army September of 2022 was when I left.
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SPEAKER_00: I decided to enlist as a combat medic.
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SPEAKER_00: So that'd be very fitting because for me it's I have a passion of being of service to others, just helping people.
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SPEAKER_00: Love it.
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SPEAKER_00: Um gives me purpose, gets my juices flowing more, and just makes me happy at the end of the night, knowing like you know, I uh made this world you know a little better place.
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SPEAKER_00: I love that.
13:43
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
13:44
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so I'm gonna I'm gonna just save, I'm gonna tell you.
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SPEAKER_01: Spoiler alert, usually my last question is what's your advice for making the world a better better place?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
13:53
SPEAKER_01: So I love that we don't even need to go to that question because we can just discuss it here out in the open.
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SPEAKER_01: Did you find when you went to boot, where did you go?
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SPEAKER_00: Uh I went to Fort Sill, Oklahoma for 10 weeks.
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SPEAKER_01: September that's pretty hot.
14:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
14:12
SPEAKER_00: Uh no, it's actually really cold.
14:15
SPEAKER_00: Was it really in Fort Sill, Oklahoma?
14:17
SPEAKER_00: The weather's almost like Nebraska, pretty bipolar, where it's just sunny one day, snowy the next, rainy the next, you never know what you're gonna get.
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SPEAKER_01: Did you find that coming off of essentially what is four fights and collegiate wrestling that maybe basic training might not have been as challenging for you as some of the other members of your class?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, so I knew going in, all the physical stuff, boot camp, all the yelling from the drill sergeants, it's it's not gonna faze me.
14:48
SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, the only hard part about all the training, it was just my patience um with people, just because you are around these people like 24-7, you eat, sleep, and train with them, and you know, sometimes people are gonna get on each other's nerves, say things they don't really mean, and you know, just you gotta be able to, you know, be patient with other people, just be understanding and you know, be able to work and you know lead them through that.
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SPEAKER_00: I actually graduated uh BASIC with uh honors, top my class out of 240.
15:15
SPEAKER_01: Uh awesome.
15:16
SPEAKER_01: So you did you did basic and your MOS all in one?
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SPEAKER_00: Uh no, that's uh OC.
15:21
SPEAKER_00: So I did all my BASIC in Fort Still, Oklahoma, but then was it around December, that's when we got done with BASIC, where we just learned you know the basics of being a soldier, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Shooting, marching, all that.
15:32
SPEAKER_00: Uh for my MOS training early December, I uh took a bus from Fort Still, Oklahoma all the way down to San Antonio, Texas.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, crazy during the w uh during the winter months, which was awesome not having to deal with the snow for like so long.
15:46
SPEAKER_00: Um and there uh I was just learning how to be a combat medic, where it's like it's 16 weeks of training.
15:52
SPEAKER_00: First six weeks is just all EMT stuff, so it's death by PowerPoint.
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SPEAKER_00: You learn just the anatomy, physiology of the human body, flow of blood, uh, and the interventions that you would take.
16:04
SPEAKER_00: Uh you learn how to control the airway, the breathing, circulation, all that, you know, fun jazz.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh first six weeks, and then the last ten is what they call whiskey phase, where it's um you apply everything like as an EMT onto the battlefield in like a more combat setting where you learn how to like throw like the procedure of like throwing on a tourniquet, like how high, on just a bunch of different with that experience as like the dynasty guys or Henry or anybody hit you up and said, Hey, Vu, we need a medic for this fight.
16:39
SPEAKER_01: You're not on this card, but we need a medic for this fight.
16:42
SPEAKER_01: Did that happen?
16:43
SPEAKER_00: No, not yet.
16:44
SPEAKER_00: I don't think they know.
16:45
SPEAKER_00: I don't I haven't talked too much.
16:47
SPEAKER_00: They know I'm in the guard, but I don't think they know what it's like.
16:49
SPEAKER_00: They know now, brother.
16:51
SPEAKER_00: I got your back.
16:53
SPEAKER_01: I love that.
16:54
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
16:54
SPEAKER_01: I love that.
16:55
SPEAKER_01: So, of all the places that you fought so far, yes, what has been your most favorite venue that you've fought in?
17:03
SPEAKER_00: Definitely Pinnacle Bank.
17:04
SPEAKER_00: I I love fighting at home.
17:06
SPEAKER_00: It's Pinnacle Bank's such a great venue.
17:08
SPEAKER_00: Like, literally, was it the spring brawl card the month before I fought?
17:12
SPEAKER_00: There was a Snoop Dogg concert on 420.
17:15
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, dang, I'm like literally fighting at this same venue.
17:18
SPEAKER_00: And then the month after my fight, they had an Ice Cube concert.
17:22
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, dude, this is like this is awesome.
17:25
SPEAKER_00: And then, no, they actually had a UFC fight night, like Gaichey versus Vic, back in like 2017 when I was in high school.
17:30
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, dude, and I'm like fighting here where all these great things happen.
17:34
SPEAKER_00: It's like, this is where you know my high school graduation happened.
17:36
SPEAKER_00: So and it's like, dang, I get to fight here.
17:38
SPEAKER_01: Like, dude, you don't get me started.
17:41
SPEAKER_01: I have not gone to a fight card at Pinnacle Bank aside from uh Dynasty.
17:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
17:47
SPEAKER_01: But I was so bummed out spring of 2020 when UFC was supposed to come and it was going to be Glover Tejera versus Anthony Smith.
17:57
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
17:57
SPEAKER_01: As the main event.
18:00
SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness.
18:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
18:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we really missed one that I wish they would start touring and go back on the road and like hit some towns like ours again.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, like either Omaha or Lincoln.
18:12
SPEAKER_00: Like, come on, like we have the CHI Center, we have Pinnacle, like, come on, that's big enough to hold you know enough people.
18:19
SPEAKER_01: Right.
18:19
SPEAKER_01: So that's actually where I was gonna go next is like, do you find yourself being a fan of the sport overall?
18:25
SPEAKER_01: And who are some of your favorite fighters?
18:27
SPEAKER_00: Yes, uh, definitely a fan of the sport.
18:29
SPEAKER_00: I have been since you know I've been young.
18:32
SPEAKER_00: Um, I love the way fighters think and how they approach life.
18:36
SPEAKER_00: Um just fighting, like wrestling, fighting, it's just helped it's been like such an amazing tool to help me like overcome you know adversity, whatever life may throw at me.
18:45
SPEAKER_00: Um just understanding like how it works.
18:48
SPEAKER_00: Uh so I've always been a fan of it.
18:49
SPEAKER_00: Some of my favorite fighters, first fighter I ever really knew, it was Kung Li, because he's Vietnamese, just like myself.
18:57
SPEAKER_00: Um, my dad introduced me to him first just because when he won the strike force title against, who was uh Frank Shamrock, where he like roundhouse kicked and broke his shoulder.
19:06
SPEAKER_00: My dad's like, oh, you gotta watch this guy.
19:07
SPEAKER_00: He's Vietnamese, he wrestled just like he's like he's he's a wrestler, like he wrestled and stuff.
19:12
SPEAKER_00: Now he does Sonda and Sancho and all that stuff, and then he just won the Strike Force title.
19:17
SPEAKER_00: So uh, you know, he's definitely you know up there as one of my favorites.
19:21
SPEAKER_00: Uh he's kind of started this whole journey.
19:23
SPEAKER_00: And honestly, one of the reasons why I probably started wrestling in seventh grade, I was like, dang, my dad's getting hyped off of like you know, him wrestling.
19:29
SPEAKER_00: And yeah, so I'm like, all right, I'm gonna give this a try and see how far I can go.
19:33
SPEAKER_00: So um Kung Li is one of them.
19:35
SPEAKER_00: And then uh TJ Dillashaw, I love his style, his footwork.
19:40
SPEAKER_00: It's I don't know, just art, just watching him uh shift in and out, in and out, and then just former collegiate wrestler.
19:46
SPEAKER_00: I'm just like, all right, he's like a wrestler turn striker.
19:49
SPEAKER_00: It's like this this is what I want.
19:50
SPEAKER_00: I want to you know make it art when I'm in there.
19:53
SPEAKER_00: Um and then we meet me and him actually share the same birthday too, February 7th.
19:57
SPEAKER_00: So that's another one.
19:58
SPEAKER_00: Same with uh along with Derek Lewis, his is also February 7th.
20:01
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, yeah, yeah.
20:04
SPEAKER_01: Post fight interviews ever, ever.
20:06
SPEAKER_00: Yes, there's never a dull moment with him on the mic.
20:09
SPEAKER_01: So if you couldn't, if you hadn't figured it out yet, the uh either listening to the show or this line of questioning, I call I consider caught on the mic kind of a Trojan horse.
20:18
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
20:18
SPEAKER_01: Like in the way that I can have a fighter on my show, I could have a musician on my show, I can have a stand-up comic on my show, but the thing that I like to focus on is the journey.
20:28
SPEAKER_01: And you said something just a few moments ago that I I swear, man, it couldn't have been said better if I handed you a script.
20:37
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
20:38
SPEAKER_01: Because I always say my favorite part about interviewing fighters and having fighters on the show is breaking people's preconceived notions of what makes up who a fighter is.
20:49
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
20:50
SPEAKER_01: Fighters always have the best mindset, they always have the best journey, and they always seem to expel some of the best advice throughout all of it.
20:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we uh we go through a lot, a life there was a lot of adversity, and I feel like through adversity, you know, you just gain a lot of wisdom through it, um, versus like the average person.
21:09
SPEAKER_01: It's amazing.
21:10
SPEAKER_01: Like, I I really do enjoy speaking with fighters specifically for all the reasons that you're kind of sharing with your story.
21:20
SPEAKER_01: Take me back to December.
21:22
SPEAKER_01: Uh, you take on Mike Tyson for a uh for a belt.
21:26
SPEAKER_01: How did that moment feel?
21:29
SPEAKER_00: Um You just want to talk about the lead up a little bit and all that?
21:32
SPEAKER_00: Uh sure.
21:33
SPEAKER_00: So was what was it?
21:34
SPEAKER_00: I get back from training in the army around what was it, like April, June, yeah, June, and then I just have a couple months off, and then I'm trying to find a job to work, and then I end up working full time for the guard and stuff, and so I'm doing that, and then I'm just kind of training uh jujitsu uh at Lincoln Brazilian Jiu Jitsu at the time, and then I was talking to Henry, I was like I have I fight like once every year, like that's you know, I've had I fought in 2019, 2020, 21, 22.
22:03
SPEAKER_00: Now it's like 2023 is about to be over, and there's not a whole lot of fights left.
22:07
SPEAKER_00: There's like maybe the Ralston card and then maybe something in December.
22:11
SPEAKER_00: So I'm like, I gotta get one in before like the year's over.
22:15
SPEAKER_00: So I hit up Henry and I'm like, hey, do you uh have any more room like on the December card?
22:21
SPEAKER_00: I think I'll be ready by December.
22:23
SPEAKER_00: And then he's like, Yeah, I'll uh try and get you somebody.
22:26
SPEAKER_00: So I'm like, cool.
22:27
SPEAKER_00: Um he texts me, it's like, Will you fight Mike Tyson for the fly weight title?
22:33
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, whoa.
22:36
SPEAKER_00: This is uh this is a lot.
22:38
SPEAKER_00: Um I didn't know how to take it.
22:40
SPEAKER_00: I was like, I know who Mike was because uh I saw him fight two of my teammates, Cade Morton and Zach Mendez from Bomb Squad.
22:47
SPEAKER_00: So I'm like, he's a tough guy, and I know he's like a really good high school wrestler.
22:51
SPEAKER_00: He's got some experience and he's really well rounded, so not a whole lot of holes in his game, but I feel like this is a very doable, and it's like this is for a title fight.
22:59
SPEAKER_00: It's like, what do I have to lose?
23:01
SPEAKER_00: Right.
23:01
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
23:02
SPEAKER_00: It's like, you know, I might be a little rusty because you know I've been away from and he's been like super active in the past two years, where he's had four fights in the past two years, and his latest one was in August.
23:11
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, so he's definitely been like trained year-round, he's like in the zone and stuff.
23:14
SPEAKER_00: So I'm like, yeah, this can be a little tough, but it's I if I dial everything in and I just use all my resources and just dedicate the next you know, 10 some weeks to all this, it's I can make it happen.
23:27
SPEAKER_00: And you know, if I don't, then at least you know, this experience is gonna make me a better human.
23:32
SPEAKER_00: Um so I'll just like I was talking to my coach and I was we're going over film and he's like, I think we can get it done.
23:40
SPEAKER_00: So I text Henry like let's do it.
23:42
SPEAKER_00: So put together a 10-week fight camp uh with all my coaches, and then we're just you know looking at patterns, you know, that and just moves that he loves to throw, and then just finding counters for them and just drilling, drilling, drilling.
23:57
SPEAKER_00: And then during the camp, we also uh got a new uh instructor uh from Muay Thai.
24:06
SPEAKER_00: His name's uh Mike Wheeler, he's originally from Mid America, but he moved to Thailand for about three years to just kind of live, breathe, and eat Muay Thai.
24:16
SPEAKER_00: Yes, and then he took that experience back, came back, applied for the job at Link Brazil and Jiu Jitsu, and he got the job as one of the Thai instructors, and then for me it's I've always like wanted to learn Muay Thai.
24:27
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
24:27
SPEAKER_00: It's just like watching TJ Jill Shaw, it's like bang muay thai.
24:30
SPEAKER_00: I'm just like, dang, I only I could like strike like that, really just figure out how to flow with my combinations, like start popping elbows or knees or something, just like, oh man.
24:39
SPEAKER_00: So I just uh absorbed as much as I could from he came into our my fight camp about three weeks before uh the fight was supposed to happen.
24:47
SPEAKER_00: So I got in as much work with him as possible, just learn how to check kicks, catch them, uh, and just create my angles to get openings for either you know my striking or my takedowns.
24:57
SPEAKER_00: And uh yeah, that's exactly you know what happened um in the fight.
25:01
SPEAKER_00: I just programmed these patterns and these counters like in my brain, and you know, just when it happened, when I see it, when I recognize it, uh I don't know, my body just reacted just by reflex.
25:14
SPEAKER_00: So uh it's kind of walk through the fight.
25:17
SPEAKER_00: It was we we touch gloves, I fake a teep, see how we would react, and then he's not moving too forward or anything.
25:24
SPEAKER_00: So I blast two leg kicks, um, just kind of to see how we'd react.
25:29
SPEAKER_00: Uh didn't throw a whole lot of power, I just wanted to see how he he would uh react if he'd you know back away, move forward, try to counter if he would just stay still.
25:38
SPEAKER_00: So I threw the first one, then the second one, he tried to counter, but I think he was trying to fake a cross, and then he threw that rear leg kick, and I was like, oh, here it is.
25:48
SPEAKER_00: And then I uh check it, I catch it with my hand, I kind of throw it by, and then I was going to try and throw like a right overhand, uh, but my arm was fully extended.
26:01
SPEAKER_00: I was like, dang, I'm not gonna reach him in time.
26:03
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, but I have such a sweet angle right here where I could just take him down.
26:06
SPEAKER_00: So then I transitioned from that overhand into like a body lock, and then from there, it was just high school college wrestling all over again, just simple mat return, get the back, stay calm, compose, uh got my hook in, and then I was just being patient here.
26:23
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, all right, you got four minutes.
26:25
SPEAKER_00: You're in such a great position here.
26:26
SPEAKER_00: Just keep it, keep it, keep it.
26:28
SPEAKER_00: Uh, just see how he reacts, wait from the panic a little bit, and then just capitalize off of his mistake.
26:34
SPEAKER_00: So I'm just on top uh with like one hook in, and then just waiting to see how he reacts.
26:39
SPEAKER_00: I wasn't sure if he was gonna walk me over to his coaches or if he was gonna do something funky because I knew he was a funky wrestler.
26:46
SPEAKER_00: Um so he decided to do a Ford roll.
26:48
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, oh, here it is.
26:49
SPEAKER_00: Bam.
26:50
SPEAKER_00: And then this is something that not a lot of people know.
26:52
SPEAKER_00: But I guess I'll just uh tell everybody.
26:55
SPEAKER_00: Uh he actually messed up my shoulder pretty bad.
26:57
SPEAKER_00: Really?
26:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, in that fight.
26:58
SPEAKER_00: I know.
26:59
SPEAKER_00: It's uh if you look at it, it looks like I came out unscathed, but he actually separated my AC joint with that roll.
27:06
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
27:07
SPEAKER_00: So he rolled, and it was my left shoulder that hit the mat, just both her body weight on impact.
27:13
SPEAKER_00: Boom.
27:14
SPEAKER_00: At the time, I had adrenaline rushing through me, so I was just like, it didn't hurt like too bad at the time, but my shoulder felt warm after I recovered the position.
27:22
SPEAKER_00: I was like, dang, why is my left shoulder like so warm right now?
27:26
SPEAKER_00: I was like, mmm, I should probably like try and finish this in case like it's something bad.
27:31
SPEAKER_00: So I'm just like, all right, breathe here, stay calm, stay calm, just see how he reacts.
27:35
SPEAKER_00: He's trying to armbar me like like a crossbody armbar.
27:38
SPEAKER_00: Right.
27:38
SPEAKER_00: But I just kept wiggling my arm out and just waiting for him to react.
27:42
SPEAKER_00: He tried to stand up, try to scramble out, but I just kept riding his hips really hard.
27:46
SPEAKER_00: And that was I managed to uh stick both of my boots in and just kind of flatten him out, throw some punches and then uh sink in some chokes.
27:55
SPEAKER_00: I tried choking him out with my gut arm, uh, my right arm, but it uh it was more to just kind of make him panic, make him pressure.
28:03
SPEAKER_00: It wasn't quite underneath his chin that first one that I tried to throw, and then what was it?
28:08
SPEAKER_00: Then he finally bellied out again, tried to build his base, and I just flattened him out again.
28:12
SPEAKER_00: Um, and then my right arm was gassed.
28:14
SPEAKER_00: I was like, oh, dude, you only have one chance at this, and it's like I have no idea how bad this shoulder is, and I don't even know if I can like throw a jab.
28:25
SPEAKER_00: It's like, dude, you have to end this like right here, right now.
28:28
SPEAKER_00: And it's you have so much time left.
28:29
SPEAKER_00: It's dude, take your time, you're in such a good spot.
28:32
SPEAKER_00: Just keep these boots in.
28:33
SPEAKER_00: So that's when I transitioned over to my left, my bad shoulder, and I just cranked it as hard as I could.
28:41
SPEAKER_00: Um, and then I managed to get the top.
28:43
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, wow, what like the rep pulls me off, and I'm like, oh my gosh, yeah, this is it.
28:51
SPEAKER_01: Well, it just it felt like it went so fast.
28:54
SPEAKER_00: It did.
28:55
SPEAKER_00: I don't know, it's the flies.
28:57
SPEAKER_01: No, actually, that that whole like after the the youth wrestling, yeah, like the I guess the the main card you would say after the youth wrestling.
29:08
SPEAKER_00: Oh first round finishes.
29:10
SPEAKER_00: I know we're flying through.
29:11
SPEAKER_00: I'm in the back locker room.
29:13
SPEAKER_00: I'm just like, geez Louise, I'm about to be I was expecting to be until like midnight, but my fight didn't happen until like 11:30.
29:18
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, all right, let's do yeah, that's exactly my wife and I were sitting there, and I'm like, this is going by fast, man.
29:26
SPEAKER_01: So like it's crazy.
29:28
SPEAKER_01: That's crazy.
29:29
SPEAKER_01: So you're gonna fight on the next dynasty combat sports card in April.
29:34
SPEAKER_01: We don't have the date for certain.
29:37
SPEAKER_01: Those of you that are listening to this, make sure you're following Dynasty Combat Sports on social media.
29:43
SPEAKER_01: Actually, make sure you're following my guest, Boo Din on social media as well.
29:49
SPEAKER_01: So you've got an opponent?
29:51
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
29:52
SPEAKER_01: Let's talk about the future.
29:54
SPEAKER_00: Yes, so Brendan Kenter.
29:57
SPEAKER_00: Um how this fight came to be.
30:00
SPEAKER_00: What was it?
30:01
SPEAKER_00: It was before the Omaha Ralston cars during fight week, where uh I'm still healing from my shoulder injury, and I'm going into the gym when it's starting to feel better, and I'm starting to train again, and I run into Henry, uh, the matchmaker.
30:18
SPEAKER_00: And um, and I'm like, hey, is it safe to say that my first title defense is gonna probably be for spring brawl, you know, in Lincoln again?
30:27
SPEAKER_00: And he's like, Oh shoot, I didn't even think about that.
30:31
SPEAKER_00: I thought you were gonna be in like school, and he's like, uh, yeah, sure, if you want.
30:35
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, sweet.
30:37
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, who, you know, who who who do you who would we you know have in mind?
30:43
SPEAKER_00: And for me, it was I wanted to avenge my loss to uh my buddy Seth out in Iowa, but uh just some stuff happened and we're not that fight's not gonna happen.
30:55
SPEAKER_00: And then he's like, uh how about the winner of Mendez versus Kenner?
30:59
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, you know, I trained with Zach, right?
31:02
SPEAKER_00: Mendez.
31:04
SPEAKER_00: It's like, yeah, but he asked me, or he asked me that you know he wanted a title fight, and he's like, well, you know, who's kind of the champ right now?
31:11
SPEAKER_00: So here, how about this you just fight Kenner, and then if you win that, then you know, uh, we'll get you a title fight.
31:17
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, alright.
31:18
SPEAKER_00: It's like normally I don't you know fight teammates or anything, but I understand.
31:21
SPEAKER_00: It's like, you know, you're just chasing your dreams at the end of the day, and you know, we're so many bros at the end of the day.
31:27
SPEAKER_00: It is what it is.
31:28
SPEAKER_00: So they uh so that fight happens.
31:31
SPEAKER_00: I go to the card, Henry gets me uh some table seats, and then I'm watching the fights, and my buddy Zach ends up losing.
31:40
SPEAKER_00: Uh it's kind of a unanimous decision, I believe.
31:42
SPEAKER_00: And then right before the fight actually happened, Henry came up to me.
31:45
SPEAKER_00: He's like, Hey, uh, whoever wins this, um I want you to come to up to the cage, grab me, and then we'll face you off.
31:54
SPEAKER_00: And then Whoa! Yeah.
31:56
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, okay, this is some WWE USC type vibes.
32:01
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, hey, I wasn't expecting this when I came trying to create the Brock Lesnar Daniel Cormier moment.
32:07
SPEAKER_01: Yep, yep.
32:07
SPEAKER_00: So that's what we did.
32:09
SPEAKER_00: Uh you know, I didn't want to take away anything from my opponent.
32:12
SPEAKER_00: Right.
32:12
SPEAKER_00: Uh, because you know, that's his night.
32:14
SPEAKER_00: That's a big win for him.
32:15
SPEAKER_00: So I wasn't gonna make any drama of it.
32:17
SPEAKER_00: It's just not, you know, in my character or anything.
32:19
SPEAKER_00: So I just wanted to congratulate him.
32:21
SPEAKER_00: Uh he's doing his uh speech with Kendall, and then you know, they face us off uh when during the face off.
32:27
SPEAKER_00: I was like, hey man, good fight.
32:28
SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, let's uh you know, good luck, train hard, and uh, you know, let's let's give the people a really good freaking show.
32:38
SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
32:40
SPEAKER_01: Oh man, that's exciting.
32:41
SPEAKER_01: So I I should probably clarify that this fight is gonna take place either April 19th or April 20th at the Pinnacle Bank Arena here in Lincoln, Nebraska.
32:52
SPEAKER_01: So those of you that are not from Nebraska or not from Lincoln, it's gonna be a good weekend to make the drive out.
33:02
SPEAKER_01: What drives you personally outside of fighting, like outside of wrestling?
33:08
SPEAKER_01: What kind of things inspire you?
33:10
SPEAKER_00: For me, it's just like helping people.
33:12
SPEAKER_00: I don't know, nothing like makes me happier than and it's like where I get my worth than just like helping people, whether if it's like, I don't know, with like homework growing up or just teach them like a new skill.
33:22
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
33:22
SPEAKER_00: I just love giving people skills in life to you know just help them live a more fulfilling life because it's like I've fallen into the hole of like getting complacent and it's just like man, this is I'm not stimulating.
33:33
SPEAKER_00: I feel like I'm just existing here, I'm not thriving.
33:36
SPEAKER_00: It's like this is I only get one life to live.
33:39
SPEAKER_00: It's like why live this way?
33:40
SPEAKER_00: So it's I don't know, being able to give people those tools to live a more fulfilling life.
33:46
SPEAKER_00: I don't know, that makes me feel like pretty complete at the end of the day.
33:49
SPEAKER_00: So it's definitely one of my passions being you know of service to other people.
33:52
SPEAKER_00: Other than fighting, coaching, I'd have to say I said I'm a bit of a weeb.
33:59
SPEAKER_00: I watch anime in my free time.
34:00
SPEAKER_00: I actually get a lot of inspiration uh from certain animes, like Naruto Dragon Ball Z, just like fighting animes on like their journey.
34:08
SPEAKER_00: Um, so I'll watch some animes in my free time, video games, friends every now and then.
34:13
SPEAKER_00: Other than that, I don't know, my life pretty much revolves around training and coaching.
34:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
34:19
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
34:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's awesome.
34:21
SPEAKER_01: It's there is a actually he's one of Drew Dober's coaches.
34:25
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
34:25
SPEAKER_01: Uh Sean Madden.
34:26
SPEAKER_01: He he trains Mui Thai in Colorado.
34:29
SPEAKER_01: He's a friend of mine.
34:30
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
34:31
SPEAKER_01: And I asked him the same exact question and he gave me almost the same exact answer.
34:35
SPEAKER_01: He was like, he was like, he's like, dude, he goes, you know, outside of coaching and training Mui Thai and all this, he goes, That's all I do.
34:44
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
34:44
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
34:46
SPEAKER_00: It's pretty simple, but uh pretty cool life.
34:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
34:50
SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
34:52
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, I have been preaching a lot of this on the podcast lately.
34:58
SPEAKER_01: I've been talking about the book Atomic Habits.
35:00
SPEAKER_01: I am on my second listen through of it.
35:02
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
35:03
SPEAKER_01: So I am in this mindset right now where I focus a lot more on processes versus focusing on goals.
35:09
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
35:09
SPEAKER_01: The whole philosophy is focus on refining your processes.
35:13
SPEAKER_01: The goals tend to take care of themselves.
35:16
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
35:16
SPEAKER_01: So, with that said, and not to contradict myself, but Vu, what's your what's your goals in the long term?
35:23
SPEAKER_01: Like, where do you see yourself one year from now, five years from now?
35:28
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
35:28
SPEAKER_00: I have two different separate lives.
35:30
SPEAKER_00: So I have my military goals and then my like mixed martial art goals.
35:33
SPEAKER_01: Share them both.
35:35
SPEAKER_00: Um, so for me, I'm a huge adrenaline junkie.
35:38
SPEAKER_00: I I gotta be doing like really high-speed stuff.
35:41
SPEAKER_00: I'm really thinking about uh possibly trying out for special forces Green Beret for the army.
35:45
SPEAKER_00: Nice.
35:46
SPEAKER_00: Um, I really think it'd be really up my alley.
35:48
SPEAKER_00: I'd try and become a 18 Delta uh special forces medical sergeant, go the medical route.
35:54
SPEAKER_00: It's about three years worth of training, but um I feel like I have a lot to gain from it, and it just matches like who I am, like as my character and all my morals.
36:02
SPEAKER_00: Um so I could see myself training up for that.
36:06
SPEAKER_00: I don't know, I'm still in the process of like trying to find recruiters to talk to.
36:09
SPEAKER_00: Um so there's that possibly within a year.
36:13
SPEAKER_00: Um and then for MMA, I don't think too far ahead.
36:17
SPEAKER_00: I kind of just take it fight by fight, and then I just constantly train uh year round.
36:21
SPEAKER_00: Um I want to do more fights, you know, outside of Dynasty branch out a little more because I think you know I kind of almost ran through you know everybody in Nebraska.
36:30
SPEAKER_00: So getting more fights out of state, uh other promotions, possibly like LFA, uh, and then just see where this journey you know takes me.
36:39
SPEAKER_01: It'd be nice to you know fight for big organizations like Bellator, UFC, but I was gonna ask you Do you ever foresee fighting actually becoming your occupation full-time?
36:51
SPEAKER_00: Um Yeah, for me right now it's just a big risk and gamble, just because I want to be like very financially free.
36:59
SPEAKER_00: So it's if I can ever get into a spot.
37:01
SPEAKER_00: So I don't know, this is kinda my uh plan.
37:05
SPEAKER_00: I was gonna go.
37:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
37:07
SPEAKER_00: So here it is.
37:09
SPEAKER_00: Um I become a Green Beret, just like Tim Kennedy, and then just use you know, all my training and like mentality and like the mental fortitude that special force training would um, you know, instill in me to make me like even to a more deadly warrior and like weapon, and then just make more connections in the MMA world just with having that on my resume, and then getting bigger camps and just better like instructors to just hone me into like a more complete fighter and then just make myself more marketable, yeah, and then get myself those like big promotion fights for UFC Bellator or wherever this journey takes me to someone.
37:50
SPEAKER_01: You gotta manifest it.
37:51
SPEAKER_01: Like yeah, I mean it sounds like you know, based on what I watched in December and just kind of the history that you're sharing with me, yeah, you're an exciting fighter, man.
38:01
SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
38:01
SPEAKER_01: Why wouldn't you try and do it?
38:03
SPEAKER_01: Like, why wouldn't you manifest that?
38:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man, you only get one life.
38:07
SPEAKER_00: You might as well go full sen everything each and every day.
38:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, purpose.
38:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah absolutely.
38:12
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
38:13
SPEAKER_01: So, of course, like I uh gave you the spoiler alert earlier.
38:17
SPEAKER_01: What is your advice for making the world a better place tomorrow than what it is today?
38:21
SPEAKER_00: Have empathy for other people.
38:23
SPEAKER_00: Like the world doesn't revolve around you.
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SPEAKER_00: You gotta slow it down a little bit because there are gonna be negative people out there.
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SPEAKER_00: Don't let them rob you, you know, of your energy and like who you are.
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SPEAKER_00: Like as a person, have them make you bitter, sour.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, don't teach who you are at the core, just have empathy for them, recognize like you know, they are having a tough time, tough day, and just be willing to listen to you know whatever it is they're going through.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh because that really goes a long way.
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SPEAKER_00: Just feeling heard, but stepping outside your comfort zone, trying to learn and grow every day, having good morals.
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SPEAKER_00: Um I guess that's another way that you can make the world a better place.
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SPEAKER_00: At least that's why I try to do learn and grow.
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SPEAKER_00: Some I don't know, just do something every day to like challenge you.
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SPEAKER_00: Step outside of your comfort zone.
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SPEAKER_00: There's so much growth that'll happen, you know, when you just do that.
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SPEAKER_01: Dude, I am so glad that we got to connect and have this conversation.
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SPEAKER_01: We can call each other friends now.
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SPEAKER_01: So we run into each other here in Lincoln, Nebraska.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, uh, you have an ally in me, and I feel I have an ally in you.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh, thank you so much for doing the show, man.
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SPEAKER_01: The world is a better place with you in it, man.
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SPEAKER_01: I appreciate it, Mike.
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SPEAKER_01: I think one of my most favorite parts of that conversation is realizing how much life my guest has lived in such a short amount of time.
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SPEAKER_01: This was a very rare episode where we recorded in person.
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SPEAKER_01: This wasn't remote, so that was pretty awesome.
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SPEAKER_01: I want to thank Boo Din for doing the show today.
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SPEAKER_01: This has been Caught on the Mike with Michael Clark.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm Michael Clark.
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SPEAKER_01: Until next time, thank you.