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  Speaker 1: The Week in Bible. Prophecy a Prophecy Watchers podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, everyone, welcome to the podcast. Today we're going to
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  Speaker 2: be talking with Carlos ski Bar about his book Evolution
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  Speaker 2: the Devils in the Details, and before we do, we
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  Speaker 2: just want to remind everybody of a couple of things
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  Speaker 2: So you can go to Prophecywatchers dot com and check
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  Speaker 2: But the question we want to discuss today is the
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  Speaker 2: Bible says quite clear that we are entering the end
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  Speaker 2: of the age and that one of the first things
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  Speaker 2: that Jesus says is no man or anybody else deceive you.
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  Speaker 2: So deception is going to be high on the list.
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  Speaker 2: And we're talking to Carlos. So welcome Carlos.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and for those that might not know you, maybe
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  Speaker 2: give a little biography about who you are, what you've done,
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  Speaker 2: and how you've come to write this book on really
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  Speaker 2: the schemes and the machinations I would say of the
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  Speaker 2: way that the devil works here.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you again.
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  Speaker 4: So Carlos Kibar lived in southern California my whole life.
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  Speaker 4: I just retired from the fire service after thirty two years.
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  Speaker 4: An amazing career. Awesome. I'm so blessed to have been.
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  Speaker 4: I have gone through the education, the training, running calls,
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  Speaker 4: running fires. Is just a great group of people there,
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  Speaker 4: so it was it was awesome. I had a great time.
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  Speaker 4: But that's uh so I didn't really retire. I guess
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  Speaker 4: I'm reassigned now, right. So I have a family of four.
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  Speaker 4: There's four of us, my wife, my two children. We
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  Speaker 4: were very active. We do a lot of ocean sports,
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  Speaker 4: so we're always in the water, whether it's fishing, surfing,
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  Speaker 4: scuba diving, canoeing, all that, all that fun stuff. So
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  Speaker 4: I spent a lot of time on education.
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  Speaker 1: I have.
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  Speaker 4: I have a master's in Biblical Studies, I have a
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  Speaker 4: pH d in psychology, and I have I went back
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  Speaker 4: to school recently to get my American History degree masters
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  Speaker 4: in history because I have a I guess, a newfound
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  Speaker 4: love for history. So it's very interesting to me. I'm
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  Speaker 4: still new at it, but it's it's amazing.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's one of the things I appreciated, and
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  Speaker 2: is your desire to understand, no doubt, how the world
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  Speaker 2: has worked historically. But also you know, again, your your
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  Speaker 2: education in psychology, maybe unpack that what led you, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you have Bible, what caused you to go get a
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  Speaker 2: PhD in psychology? And that's a pretty serious endeavor.
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  Speaker 4: So fortunately the degree in psychology was was Christian based,
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  Speaker 4: so it was from a different perspective. And I wanted
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  Speaker 4: to kind of change, you know, because most of my
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  Speaker 4: early education was fire service, fire service stuff. It was
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  Speaker 4: you know, emergency medicine, it was you know, fire control
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  Speaker 4: type of it was command and control type classes. So
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  Speaker 4: I kind of wanted to change it completely just to
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  Speaker 4: get a different perspective. And it gave me a different
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  Speaker 4: perspective on just thinking differently, right because I wasn't used
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  Speaker 4: to the same stuff. So that's what kind of encouraged
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  Speaker 4: me to continue my education but also get in different
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  Speaker 4: in different aspects, so which helped me write the book
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  Speaker 4: because I kind of brought all those together.
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  Speaker 1: So and one thing I learned about psychology.
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  Speaker 4: Which was very interesting, was I believe back in the
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  Speaker 4: fifteen hundreds, psychology meant something different, right, psychology psyche the
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  Speaker 4: word is I mean soul.
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  Speaker 1: So back then it was study of the soul. Like
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  Speaker 1: Satan's tactics and his deception.
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  Speaker 4: He's changed it to study the mind, and which is
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  Speaker 4: kind of interesting because I think it backfired on him
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  Speaker 4: because now it's there's a lot of a lot of
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  Speaker 4: focus on the mind, and that's the that's the battle
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  Speaker 4: for the battlefield right now is of the mind.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, when we think about the mind, it's again, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of what you've written in here is just reminds
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  Speaker 2: me of what I studied in the in the Screwtape
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  Speaker 2: Letters with the C. S.
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  Speaker 3: Lewis. It's interesting there too that.
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  Speaker 2: As I wrote the study guide for that book took
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  Speaker 2: me minion in the years and I would talk to people,
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  Speaker 2: I would teach it, you know at church, and I
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  Speaker 2: would say, hey, you know, we're going to do a
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  Speaker 2: study on the Screwtape Letters. And many people like, oh, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: I don't do any demonology stuff, and I'm like, no,
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  Speaker 2: it's not. It's not a book on demonology, you know. C. S.
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  Speaker 3: Lewis.
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  Speaker 2: It's really a book on human temptation. And it has
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  Speaker 2: so much psychology in there because he's analyzing the way
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  Speaker 2: that humans behave and he's also analyzing the way that
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  Speaker 2: we interact with each other and so but he puts
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  Speaker 2: it in a framework of a spiritual framework. And it's fictional.
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  Speaker 2: So I mean, it's a fictional book. So I tried
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  Speaker 2: to this is this is not it's not scary. It's
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  Speaker 2: talking about how you reacted to so and so. In
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  Speaker 2: this particular, it talks about unselfishness.
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  Speaker 3: What does that mean? What does that look like?
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  Speaker 2: And but what I did is kind of like what
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  Speaker 2: you What you did is I said, well, man, all
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  Speaker 2: these these angles that the enemy takes, they're in the Bible,
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  Speaker 2: and so we can bring all the theology. I remember again,
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  Speaker 2: I quoted over a thousand scriptures in there, just to say,
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  Speaker 2: look the way the enemy works, the temptation is real.
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  Speaker 2: How do we how do we deal with it? But
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  Speaker 2: what I find is that and maybe I can ask
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  Speaker 2: you this is do you find too that the typical Christian.
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  Speaker 3: Doesn't really want.
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  Speaker 2: To learn more about this, or it doesn't isn't drawn
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  Speaker 2: to it, or it doesn't thinks it's real?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, what do they seem like sitting ducks? Why
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  Speaker 3: do that?
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know it's it's always fear of the unknown, right,
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  Speaker 4: And that's that's exactly where saying wants you.
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  Speaker 1: So from what I see in my my.
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  Speaker 4: Circles is is Uh, there's there's a little bit of
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  Speaker 4: a laziness, and there's a little bit of apathy. Right,
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  Speaker 4: there's there's you know, I don't know and I don't care,
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  Speaker 4: and which which is very bad and which is one
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  Speaker 4: of the other reasons why I wrote this is because
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to really really I'm come from the angle
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  Speaker 4: of you know, not just not just from the from
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  Speaker 4: the eye of like like from the not I don't
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  Speaker 4: want to say eye from not from an eye from
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  Speaker 4: the Bible, because I want to say more of a
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  Speaker 4: different angle, right, So a different angle from history, from
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  Speaker 4: from h from social right from psychology. So you know,
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  Speaker 4: I kind of want to bring from a different perspective
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  Speaker 4: rather than just because a lot of people, if you
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  Speaker 4: say the Bible, they're like, yeah right, they kind of
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  Speaker 4: why I do it every Sunday and you know type
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  Speaker 4: of thing. And so the book is more of a
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  Speaker 4: of a of a battle cry, a battle called to
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  Speaker 4: get back in the world, especially for men. You know,
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  Speaker 4: we're leaders and we need to step up. And there's
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  Speaker 4: a reason why our society is where it is is
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  Speaker 4: because men aren't stepping up. And so for me, I
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  Speaker 4: had a burden in my heart to I need I
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  Speaker 4: need to wake people up with this and and uh,
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  Speaker 4: so far I've been getting some really good interaction from people.
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  Speaker 4: And and actually it's a blessing to me to hear
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  Speaker 4: that how it's changing them and the way they're looking
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  Speaker 4: at what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's one of the fascinating things about it is.
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  Speaker 2: And I think, let let's jump in a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: because you talked about setting the stage of a book
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  Speaker 2: that you had read recently, Left of the Bang, and
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  Speaker 2: I find that fascinating in that, you know, we all
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  Speaker 2: watch these shows, you know, these thrillers whatever it might be,
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  Speaker 2: Jason Bourne movies and all these these highly trained individuals.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it's mission impossible, et cetera. But these highly trained individuals,
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  Speaker 2: they're they're maybe in a in a in a in
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  Speaker 2: a hotel, or they're in a public place, and they're
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  Speaker 2: they're analyzing everything.
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  Speaker 3: They're walking in.
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  Speaker 2: They're like, Okay, that guys, that guy's got that guy's
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  Speaker 2: over here, there's three exits here, how can I get out?
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  Speaker 1: And so but that.
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  Speaker 2: Tells you, though, that that person is highly trained and
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  Speaker 2: equipped to be on guard against any threats.
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  Speaker 4: So, if if you haven't read Left of Bang, it's
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  Speaker 4: a it's a great book for worldly events, right, so
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  Speaker 4: it kind of prepares you for the hopefully hopefully prepares
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  Speaker 4: you if you're paying attention to prevent an attack, or
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  Speaker 4: at least prevent yourself from being part of that attack,
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  Speaker 4: or maybe you can do something about the attack. Right
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  Speaker 4: whether whether rather whether than saying say what was I
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  Speaker 4: say something?
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  Speaker 1: See something, say something? This is more of a say something,
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  Speaker 1: do something, right, So, basically that book talks about identifying
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  Speaker 1: and recognizing warning signs before an attack? Right now, how
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  Speaker 1: how can we do that in our spiritual world? Will
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  Speaker 1: talking about the worldly? You know, the world and the
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  Speaker 1: spiritual have a lot a lot of things in common,
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  Speaker 1: and there's things that we can learn. So there's six
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  Speaker 1: domains of observable behaviors. Right.
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  Speaker 4: One it's called kinesis, and that's your body language. So
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  Speaker 4: when you're at a restaurant, that kind of what you
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  Speaker 4: mentioned earlier. You know, how is everybody kind of acting
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  Speaker 4: the same or are they? Are they kind of Is
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  Speaker 4: everything within normal limits?
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  Speaker 1: Right? Are people making physical movements? Are they nervous? Fidgeting?
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  Speaker 4: There's there's something going on. So it's important, especially with
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  Speaker 4: your family. You know, you want to protect your family.
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  Speaker 4: You want to make sure and and it's easy for
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  Speaker 4: us as as first responders because that's how we're trained.
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  Speaker 1: We're always trained for that.
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  Speaker 4: Even as firemen, we we get attacked also, so there's
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  Speaker 4: things that we look for. It's a it's a hypervigilance
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  Speaker 4: that we're trained with. So I've had a wonderful opportunity
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  Speaker 4: to go through many classes on that with real life
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  Speaker 4: training and you know, scenario type training. So I'm sharing
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  Speaker 4: that with you. So the second is called biometrics, right.
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  Speaker 4: Biometrics is physiological response, and what that is is it's
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  Speaker 4: a it's looking looking at at conditions right, looking at
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  Speaker 4: the person's skin, looking at their skin color. There, they're
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  Speaker 4: heavy breathing. What's going on with the person itself?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 4: Is there something that's that's biometrically occurring with them? Those
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  Speaker 4: are things to look out for. There's also something called proximics,
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  Speaker 4: and that's body positioning.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of times if somebody has a weapon on
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  Speaker 4: their side, right, they're gonna they're gonna kind of favor
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  Speaker 4: one side and kind of you know, hide that side
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  Speaker 4: type of thing, right, So you want you want to
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  Speaker 4: look for those kind of things and they're also overtly interested,
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  Speaker 4: so they're kind of like looking at their target a lot,
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  Speaker 4: looking at their target, looking around and looking at their target.
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  Speaker 4: So those those are things that you want to look for.
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  Speaker 4: There's something called geographics. That's your environmental relationship, so it's
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  Speaker 4: interacting with the specific environment. So sometimes people try to
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  Speaker 4: interact fakely, you know, like you know, just something something
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  Speaker 4: is often it's not making sense. They're they're over overly
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  Speaker 4: reacting or acting. So there's something called iconology or i'm
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  Speaker 4: sorry iconography, and those are symbols or affiliations and a lot
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  Speaker 4: of times, you know, people wear rainbow stuff or propel street,
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  Speaker 4: you know, so you know you kind of kind of
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  Speaker 4: kind of look back and what's what's their motivation and
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  Speaker 4: why they hear so. And then there's atmospherics. Atmospherics is
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  Speaker 4: an environmental mood and that's your collective mood.
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  Speaker 1: It's a shifting mood.
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  Speaker 4: So if you've you know, there's that feeling that something
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  Speaker 4: not right in the room, well then you need to
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  Speaker 4: find out there's that.
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  Speaker 1: Might be the Holy Spirit telling you something right.
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  Speaker 4: So those are some those are some things that you
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  Speaker 4: can always kind of have in the back of your head.
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  Speaker 1: And again it's it's hard.
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  Speaker 4: You're not always going to be you know, especially with
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  Speaker 4: the family, be like that, but just kind of give it,
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  Speaker 4: give it an initial another sweep of the room before
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  Speaker 4: you sit down.
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  Speaker 1: And so what I did is I.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of I kind of transfer that into the spiritual Right,
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  Speaker 4: what's what's our spiritual left of bang framework? So a
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  Speaker 4: spiritual kinde sis would be relational posture? Right, what physical
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  Speaker 4: and emotional response do we take to or God? And
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  Speaker 4: and two Timothy four three through four says for the
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  Speaker 4: time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching?
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  Speaker 1: Is that happening today?
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  Speaker 4: Here we are, and it happens all the time, and
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  Speaker 4: we'll turn away from listening to the truth. Do not
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  Speaker 4: turn your back away from the truth. You know pilot did, right,
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  Speaker 4: Pilot Pilot has the truth standing right in front of
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  Speaker 4: him and he didn't recognize it. So how much more
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  Speaker 4: is it for us?
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  Speaker 1: Right too?
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  Speaker 2: He had the opportunity for sure, and there he was.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Jesus says to him, you know you know
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  Speaker 2: or he you know the truth? And he says, well,
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  Speaker 2: you know, what is truth?
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  Speaker 3: Kind of a nettle?
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  Speaker 2: You know, mocking, skeptical philosophical reminder. But there you have
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  Speaker 2: it personified in front of them.
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  Speaker 4: And you're you're not going to know truth unless you
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  Speaker 4: know the truth. And what's what's the biggest barrier of
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  Speaker 4: barrier of truth is a presumption that you have it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right. So staying in the world is huge
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  Speaker 1: and it's important staying humble.
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  Speaker 2: I find that the case when it comes to when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to temptation, pride is such a huge thing,
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  Speaker 2: and pride is multifaceted, it's it's it's that's crafty. You
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  Speaker 2: want to say about pride, super super crafty the way
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  Speaker 2: the enemy uses.
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  Speaker 1: It exactly, and that's what God Satan kicked out of heaven. Right.
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  Speaker 4: Then there's spiritual biometrics that's internal and psychological symptoms, those uncontrollable,
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  Speaker 4: uncontrollable internal shifts affecting the mood and two Timothy one
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  Speaker 4: seven for God gave us not a spirit of fear,
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  Speaker 4: but of power and love and self control, self control
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  Speaker 4: versus giving away to demonic entry. So you know, you
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  Speaker 4: got to you gotta choose your side every day. Are
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  Speaker 4: you gonna have self control? Are you gonna give yourself
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  Speaker 4: up to what's what's unnatural?
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  Speaker 2: I think that's important too, because you know, self control
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  Speaker 2: is one of the fruit of the spirit, you know
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  Speaker 2: in Relations chapter five, and so you have the whole
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  Speaker 2: idea that you know, if we walk in the spirit,
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  Speaker 2: we will not fulfill the lss of the flesh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: galle since five sixteen. But I find it interesting that
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  Speaker 2: one of.
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  Speaker 3: The things.
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  Speaker 2: That we don't walk in the spirit is having that
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  Speaker 2: self control and discipline, even and denying ourselves. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's why. You know, again, even going back to strew
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  Speaker 2: Tape letters, there's a whole section on fast and I
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  Speaker 2: remember talking to a brother and I was talking about fasting.
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  Speaker 2: He goes, man, I've never denied myself anything in my
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  Speaker 2: entire life.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He's like forty, Like, you never fasted? Yeah, And he goes, no,
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  Speaker 2: if I want somebody to got it. And I think
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  Speaker 2: it's interesting that that getting in the habit of denying
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  Speaker 2: the flesh gets into the habit of controlling the flesh,
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  Speaker 2: which emotions, et cetera, all those things, and we begin
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  Speaker 2: to master them by the spirit rather than the.
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  Speaker 3: Other way around.
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  Speaker 1: The whole the whole bottom line is leadership, right, Can
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  Speaker 1: you lead yourself?
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  Speaker 3: Can you lead yourself?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: You need to learn how to lead yourself with discipline
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  Speaker 4: before you lead others, and as men of God, we
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  Speaker 4: should be doing that in our homes and with those
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  Speaker 4: around us. So kind of a little side note. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if you heard the recent you know, there's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of you here, a lot
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  Speaker 4: of young men are coming back to church. You've heard that,
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  Speaker 4: and it's it sounds good. But there's something else behind
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  Speaker 4: that too, which is very interesting. Is I heard this
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  Speaker 4: the other day. Those that are coming back to church
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  Speaker 4: are going back to churches that are that have authority
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  Speaker 4: type figures, right, And what the message being across are
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  Speaker 4: getting across is that these young men are don't do
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  Speaker 4: not want to go to churches with pastors that have
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  Speaker 4: skinny genes and the smoke and all this stuff. That
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: they're going to Catholic churches and they're going to churches
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: that have the authority figure because they're looking for leadership,
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: looking for leadership. And that's a huge reason why we
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: have the problems we have today, because we don't have.
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: Looking for strong looking for strength and conviction clarity.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, rather than again, let's adapt, like you said, some
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: of the some of the pastors who are adapting themselves
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: to the culture so much that they don't see that
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: as they see as being compromised.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: I imagine compromise. So that's that's amazing too.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Where you have the maybe young men who they don't
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: necessarily they might even know why they're looking for this,
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: but yet it's drawn to them exactly, something that's standing
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: against the grain, against the flow.
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: It's it's definitely, it's its eye opening. Spiritual proximics is
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: the next one. That's isolation and boundaries. How do you
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: position yourself socially in a relationship, relationally, within your faith,
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: in your community.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Are you that leader? Right?
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: Proverbs eighteen to one whoever isolated it's himself seeks his
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: own desire. He breaks out against all sound judgment. It's
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: important for the Christian not to be isolated either, right,
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: because that's when that's when when evil lurks in really easy,
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: when you're by yourself, right, you know you you don't
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: have that accountability sometimes too, so.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because pride, I mean accountability is the opposite of pride.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Pride you don't want it. It's like you said, Proprise eighteen,
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: your rage against your rage against sound wisdom. I got it,
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: I got it, I got it, I don't or I
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: don't need anybody exactly. And that's man talk about. Satan
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: just wrote reeling that person in.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: Is that there's that if you've heard of the term
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: called battle buddy, you've heard of battle buddy before you
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: you need to find those strong men or if you're
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: a woman, women around you too, you know, help help
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: for accountability and strength. Definitely need that and then be.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: Willing to say, hey, look, hey bro, you're deceiving yourself here.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: And truth tellers R yeah, yeah, I love you, you know,
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: I love you, but I think you're you're you're convincing
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: yourself of this and that and that you can handle
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: on your own. And of course the response, uh, you
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: know many saying that to you is well I don't
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: see it. Well, that's the key of humility is saying, well,
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: what are they saying that I'm not? Because we all
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: have blind spots, you know, we all have those things
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: and that's important.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: Yep, yep, and those truth tellers will definitely help you
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: out with that, right. Spiritual geographics, how do you react
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: with physical and digital environments? Acts nineteen nineteen says, then the
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: number of these who practice magic arts brought their books
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: together and burn them in the sight of all. You know,
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: gravitate towards worship and studying scripture instead of you know,
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: get off those devices.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: I know it's you know, your social.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: Media and you know, isn't it funny how when you're
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: looking down it looks like your praying, right, So who's
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: your God?
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: You gotta choose your.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Especially for time you think, think about how much time
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: you know, we spend on something that that'll be an
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: indicator of many things.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: And spiritual iconography, right, those are deceptive ideologies.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: What are you positioning yourself with? What kind of symbols
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: do you have? What kind of stuff do you have
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: on your shirts?
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: What are you wearing? You know?
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: Those are those are those are things you need to
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: be careful because that is lot that's witchcraft too. And
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: the last one is spiritual atmospherics. What is the spiritual
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: climate in your life? First Samuel sixteen fourteen says, now
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: the spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and a
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: harmful spirit from the Lord tormented him. So in the aptsmosphere,
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: when atmosphere shifts from peace to disordered confusion, the environment
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: is compromising.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: You need to be aware of that. So again, one
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: of my biggest pushes in this book is preparation right
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: always always be ready, stay ready so you don't have
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: to get ready, is the term that I use in
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: this book.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: I mean you see this often too, where in normal warfare.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: You know you're training, you know, we're even sports. You know,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: you're like, okay, we're going to go for the championship game.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: But by the time you get to the championship game,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: if you've earned it, you've practiced every scenario. I mean,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: I played a lot of sports growing up, and you know,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: aiming as a coach, I coach soccer, and I'm like, Okay,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: we're gonna be in this scenario.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: It's going to happen. But I want you girls.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: You know, I've coached my daughter's soccer teams and many
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: of them never played soccer before. I'm like, listen, I'm
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: gonna set it up. This is what you're gonna see.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: And but then when it happens, you're gonna be like, oh,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: I know exactly what I need to do. It's his
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: second nature. But I think in the same way from
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: the spiritual perspective, because we're not reading the scripture and
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: we're not seeing the battles going on there, then when
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: they happen, we don't recognize, Oh, Jesus had the same
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: temptation exactly, and this is how we responded.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's that's that's why another you know, I
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: come from a different angle also, I come from There's
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: tons of I mean, it's funny because there's so many
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: examples in the in the in the history that we
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: can relate to that eye, even in recent history, that
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: they're they're patterns, right. So it's it's interesting I brought
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: this up earlier. You know, in the in the Greek mind, right,
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: when you study prophecy, right, it's it's it's it's prophecy,
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: that's fulfillment.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Right. In the Hebrew mind, it's a pattern. Prophecy is pattern. Right.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: If you look at the Bible, it's just pas it's
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: the same stuff happening, happening and happening.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Right, that's the same that happens today.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: Even even in history, right, you see the same evil
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: regimes that are coming through, the types of Antichrists, right,
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: that are coming through coming through, and then you know
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: it's not their time, but it's the same thing.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: So if you can always you can predict.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: Patterns, right, and if you study, if you educate yourself,
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: you're going to see those patterns just like we're seeing today.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Well I find that absolutely fascinating because even in our
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: modern culture, we see a lot of the anti Semitism
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: that's happening around the world, and yet it's pretty common
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: now for people to say, this is exactly what Europe
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: look like, you know, in the nineteen forties, and you
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: see the same pattern coming in. But yet you know,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: going back to nineteen forty, you know, what do we
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: sixty eighty years out?
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Eighty years out?
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: And so the people who are alive today, they don't
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: know history, So the cycle can come back and Satan
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: can use the exact same playbook because people don't know
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: history and therefore their unaware that they this is exactly
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: what's happened.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: But yet I.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Was talking with a woman who she was raised in
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Russia and she's older, and she during especially during COVID,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: she was like, she she's, she's she's an American citizen now,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: but she again she wasn't raised here she and she
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: was she was so frustrated because she said, why can't
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: why don't people see what's happening here. This is exactly
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: what's happening to us and the control and the censorship
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: and all these things. And she was just shocked that
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: we didn't understand history.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Well, even even even in parts of the United States.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: Of what I've noticed is, you know, taking classes in
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: different places. Is you know, if you go to the
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: East Coast or you know, mainly like Washington, Virginia, those
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: are those areas there is they know history because they've
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: they as kids, they played on the battlefield. Yeah, so
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: that's that's one section of America that probably knows a
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: little a little more history obviously than we do, because
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: they're in at least of American history American history, right. So,
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: but there are some there's some I have a couple
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: examples here of what they call the queen of Heaven, right,
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: So if you don't know who the Queen of Heaven is,
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: you know it's rooted in ancient mythology of ancient sumer Right.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: But you can see the types of queens of Heaven
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: that have come through history.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: So I'll name a couple of those, if that's okay
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: with you. So Queen of Heaven and Canaan that culture.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: She was a Ball's counterpart. Right, So history has several
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: women with notorious traits like this, and I'll bring a
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: couple of these up. So Elizabeth Bathory in sixteen hundred,
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: she was known as a blood count, is known for
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: killing hundreds of young girls in late sixteen and seventeenth centuries.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: She was accused of bathing in blood of virgins to
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: retain her youth and beauty. There's Catherine da Medici, the
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: Queen of France, known for her ruthless political moved maneuvers
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: involved in Saint Bartholomew's massacre. There was Isol coach Coke
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: and she was known as the Witch of mukin Wald.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: She was a wife of a Nazi concentration commandant. And
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: this is pretty disgusting, but she would use the skin
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: of Jews to make slap shades. So you see these
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: types of evils, right. Amelia Dyer, she's dubbed as Ogress
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: of Reading. She was a Victorian era baby farmer and
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: she would take hundreds of infants for money and she
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: discarded of them.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Later.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: Balgunnis early nineteen hundreds American serial killer. She wou lure
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: wealthy men to her home and kill them and take
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: from their insurance. And then the big one I want
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: to kind of talk a little bit about is infamous
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: Market Sanger. Yes, right, So she's the prominent birth control
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: activist and her history is deep seated evil, and a
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: lot of people don't know this, but she's the founder
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: of plant Parenthood.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: It was once called.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: The American Birth Control League, is what the original name
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: was called before they turned it. So this is kind
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: of example of the revival of goddess worship, right, and
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: we had it here recently in the early nineteen hundreds.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: And so what she did is you know, her sex
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: with her path through socialism. And she wrote many publications
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: expressing her views as such as women rebel and no Gods,
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: no Masters, and they echoed exact same lies that Satan
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: did in the Garden. Her publications, they grew more explicit
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: and pornographics. So what happens in eighteen thirty seven there
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: was a law called the Comstock laws, and that was
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: a postal.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Law that you could not mail any kind of explicit
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: information across mail. While she was they got her for
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: that and they charged her with violin the Comptock laws.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: So she fled to Europe and there is where she
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: got really radicalized. She fled to England and she met
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: the Malthusians, they call them the Neil Malthusians, and they
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: were radical about their population control practices. So that's where
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: she's starting to get all of her influence, right. So
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: she was influenced by a gentleman named Havelock Alice. He's
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: a socialist, a sexologist, and a eugenicist, and he targeted
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: the poor and unfit, right. And then so with that
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: Alice mentored, he was mentored by Francis Galton, who coined
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: the term eugenics derived. So the Greek word means good creation, right,
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: according to them, So and they aim to manipulate human
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: reproduction and create superior races. Sound familiar, Yeah, So eugenics
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: goes back a little further to Plato four forty nine
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: BC and he called, or he wrote somebody called the
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: twelve Tablets, and he says, and in those twelve in
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: this one of the tablets, he says, and obviously deformed
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: child must be put to death. So if you forward
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: to the roaring twenties, right, that was the industrial age, that's.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Where men are going to war. There's a lot of
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: more independence.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: Women are starting to work in the field right there,
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: they're building now, so they you know, the single women
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: are starting to become more popularized. The family unit was
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: separating because of because industrial age people were becoming wealthy.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: So you know that created the you know, the flappers
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: and you know those those type of speakeasies. You started
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: seeing a lot more sinful type behavior in the big cities.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: Wealthy innovation ushered societal transformations such as a Harlem Renaissance.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: So Galton was a half cousin of Charles Darwin, right,
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: who was an ardent biologist or biological racist, and all
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: that ideology fueled Adolf Hitler.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: So if we keep going to Granville Stanley Hall, the
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: attraction of eugenics goes all the way down back to
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: Indiana becoming the first state to pass for sterilization. And
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: in twenty seven the Supreme Court case Buck versus Bell
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: justice all over Home States and this is in public,
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: and this is he states, three generations of imbeciles is enough,
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: so you can see, you know, so he upheld sterilizations
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: and then black leaders created. They're recruited by Planned parenthood
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: to serve as project directors under Sangers what was called
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: the Negro Project to encourage genocide in the communities which
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: still exist today.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: Wow, And I recently heard somebody going to I believe
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: it was Tennessee and they said it was in a
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: you know, they just happened to make a wrong turn.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: They went through a very very poor neighborhood and they
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: had a plant parenthood in that community and it was
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: the nicest building there.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: So that evil still exists today. Right.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: So revolution influenced is responsible for more than six million abortions.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: So you know, fast forward that to the you know,
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: the molic of today, right, yep. We have now we
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: have the I believe it's called the Morning After pill.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: It's called my My footpres or the RU forty six
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: and cidotech uh, the chemical the chemically that will chemically
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: burn an unborn child in the womb. There's a renewed
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: interest in gene editing. Have you heard of Chrisper Chrispher Yeah,
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: and that's that's gene editing.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: So you can see if you study history, you start
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: to see wait, this is you know, it's just it
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: just it's comes in different forms, right, just repackaged molic
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: to Sanger to now technology, right, so you know, and
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you heard of the Internet of Bodies,
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: the Rand Corporation project where they're taking reptilian DNA and
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: adding it to humans for better night vision.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: So there's these all these weird, weird things happening.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: And again, if you're not recognizing these evils because they're
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: not their contract to the Bible.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Right, if you're not reck it, you're.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: Gonna you're gonna sign that you're going to fill out
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: that little bubble on your on your on your voting
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: ballot and say yes to to what some of these
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: are aimed at.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: One hundred percent.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, this is exactly why I think this
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: is a good conversation to have, because we're entering into
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: this age you know, where these things are subtle. They're
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: repackaged and many times we don't know history, so we
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: don't we.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Won't, they won't jump out at us.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: But because they're repackaged in a very nice way, you know,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: all these other things, it just it takes advantage of
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: I think of the young people. I actually feel bad.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: My daughters are all in their mid twenties, and I
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: think anybody that's under twenty they've never grown up without internet,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: you know, without access to all these things and social media,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: and now it's like or the phone that's in their hands.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: As as you mentioned that, the influence they don't parents,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know how they can do it because unless
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: they are very proactive and serious about screen time.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: I know I have two grandsons and my.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Daughter's really strict, which is good, but yet that's not
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: the case with I would say the most to people.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: You put them in fromt the television. You put them
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: in front of the screen, haven't watch a movie. It's easier,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: There's no doubt it's easier to do it. And then
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: you give them a phone. And then where they going
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: to learn? I saw this even in youth ministry, where
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: parents would come and they'd be upset and like, well
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: might my kids you know, my kids doing this and
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: why aren't you doing something about it? And I go,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I just want to help you understand something. I get
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: your child for forty five minutes once a week, and
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: what are you doing? What information or what influence are
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: they getting the rest of the six days. There's no
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: way my one hour of influence on them with the
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: scripture is going to undo the rest of what you're
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: allowing them to get from the world.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: Unfortunately, unfortunately, fortunately for you, that's awesome because the fact
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: that they're going to remember that, right, because if you're
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: the only one to give it to them, that's that's great.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: They have something. But unfortunately for the parent that should
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: be their job.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what I told them too, is you know, look,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not here to raise your kids. I'm here to
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: supplement what you should already be doing as a parent.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: It's great, you know.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: As I remember as a you know again as a pastor,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: where you know, parents have it tough, and so it's
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: good for for for them to bring their their child,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: generally to the youth group where that pastor is going
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: to re emphasize scriptural principles that hopefully the parents already giving.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: So now they're going to hear it from somebody else
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  Speaker 2: and they're going to go, oh, okay, I guess my
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  Speaker 2: parent isn't just you know, a goofball that this guy
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  Speaker 2: is saying the same thing, and you know whatever. But
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  Speaker 2: if the parent, what I felt was the parent was
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  Speaker 2: simply just not doing it, and say, well, they get it.
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  Speaker 3: On Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, you're right.
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  Speaker 4: And and there's that kind of like you mentioned something
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  Speaker 4: about we call it the Uncle syndrome, right, if you know,
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  Speaker 4: parents hammering them with that scripture whatever it is, that
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  Speaker 4: information and then all of a sudden, you know, they're
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  Speaker 4: not listening, and all of a sudden Uncle tells them the
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  Speaker 4: same thing.
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  Speaker 1: And they were like, they responded to Uncle.
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  Speaker 4: I haven't telling them that for that, but so you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's it's important for us to be the light, even
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  Speaker 4: though you know it's hard that unfortunately parents aren't getting it,
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  Speaker 4: some parents, but at least we're there for them and.
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  Speaker 1: We can hopefully we can be that. Like that, well
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  Speaker 1: as we.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of wrap up, you know, you know you again,
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  Speaker 2: we kind of kind of went around your book in
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  Speaker 2: many ways, but your book is filled. Kind of give
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  Speaker 2: us a give us a two minute summary here of
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  Speaker 2: of the purpose of the book, what you kind of
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  Speaker 2: some of the details, and what you want people to
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  Speaker 2: walk away with.
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  Speaker 4: So again, the like I mentioned before, the there was
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  Speaker 4: a burden in my heart where people aren't we're not
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  Speaker 4: they're not engaging in the war, right, And I was
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  Speaker 4: blessed enough to have some preparation, some classes I took
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  Speaker 4: that kind of is equivalent with the world. However, I
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  Speaker 4: just turned into the spiritual right and and researching a
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  Speaker 4: lot of information and kind of exposing a lot of
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  Speaker 4: this evil and where where it's coming from. You know,
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  Speaker 4: it's clichere whatever. Everyone kind of says, hey, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's evil to the devil. But but no, no, he's
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  Speaker 4: a little more deeper into the details. And and how
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  Speaker 4: you know, I'm not just going to tell people he's
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  Speaker 4: in the details.
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  Speaker 1: Well, how is in the details?
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's all it's all laid out here, and there's
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  Speaker 4: there's twenty one chapters of of different of different uh,
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  Speaker 4: different topics and subjects, and it's written as as a
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  Speaker 4: battlefield manual, and I am I'm almost begging for men
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  Speaker 4: to step up and take charge of their of their
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  Speaker 4: their families, their spiritual life, and to keep their their
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  Speaker 4: you know, be to be the pastors in their home.
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  Speaker 1: You know, a lot of men don't understand they are
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  Speaker 1: the pastors of their home. Yeah, they should be, and
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  Speaker 1: a lot of men are not doing their job.
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  Speaker 4: And so this is kind of one of those you know,
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  Speaker 4: I was, I was in the I taught the Fire
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  Speaker 4: Academy for many years. And this is kind of like
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  Speaker 4: my little little boot camp thing. You know, I'm trying
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  Speaker 4: to get people back in the academy so we can
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  Speaker 4: we can we can shape them up and kind of
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  Speaker 4: you know, give them some give them a bunch of laps.
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  Speaker 2: I mean to me, I see, this would be such
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  Speaker 2: a great small group study guide or or for for
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  Speaker 2: for people to come and say, hey, let's take one chapter,
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  Speaker 2: week or whatever on this because and are as leaders,
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  Speaker 2: the families, adults, whatever, And then are we taking this
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  Speaker 2: these truths here? Are we aware about spiritual temptation, what
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  Speaker 2: it looks like in our culture? And again evolution, how
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  Speaker 2: how evil has evolved and has become far more tricky
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  Speaker 2: and deceptive Satan he repackages. But I think we're so
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  Speaker 2: busy that we don't prioritize spiritual preparation for the for
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  Speaker 2: the warfare that we're in.
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  Speaker 4: We seem to be to be behind right and seeing
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  Speaker 4: one step, one step ahead. He's always one step ahead.
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  Speaker 4: And are we are we also evolving our tactics to
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  Speaker 4: to seek out that deception.
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  Speaker 1: And turn from it. Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Amen, Amen, Carlos, appreciate your time.
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  Speaker 2: If you can want to check it out, you can
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: see his book at propose Watches dot com, Evolution, the
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Devils and the Details, as well as going to his
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: website Kings Last Move dot com. And so I appreciate
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  Speaker 2: you listening this week, and again, what's our goal. Our
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: goal is to prepare you for what's coming and to
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: be aware of what's happening all around us. And we
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: think all things are going well right now, it's all good,
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  Speaker 2: but no, no, the things have just morphed and now
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  Speaker 2: they're going behind the scenes in different ways. So thanks
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  Speaker 2: for listening and we will catch you next time.