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Who is La Pascualita? · Boozy Banter with Friends

• 0:08
  Leyla Zmeskal: Hello and welcome to Boozy Banter with Friends.
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  Trisha Smith: Join us this week as we explore the supernatural,
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  Leyla Zmeskal: with a little sass,
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  Trisha Smith: the unexplained,
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  Leyla Zmeskal: and a side of snark,
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  Trisha Smith: and tales of other worldly shenanigans.
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  Leyla Zmeskal: Grab your favorite spirit and join me, Leyla,
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  Trisha Smith: and me, Trisha, and meet us on the other side.
• 0:37
  Leyla Zmeskal: Hello. I thought I'd give you a normal one again.
• 0:44
  Trisha Smith: Right. I don't know. It's not really normal anymore, because you haven't been doing it very often.
• 0:48
  Leyla Zmeskal: I know, I've been kind of shaking things up.
• 0:50
  Trisha Smith: Yeah.
• 0:50
  Leyla Zmeskal: For a couple times, I went with the dramatic Hello, welcome.
• 0:54
  Trisha Smith: Dramatic.
• 0:56
  Leyla Zmeskal: I mean, it seemed dramatic.
• 0:58
  Trisha Smith: Very, very dramatic.
• 1:00
  Leyla Zmeskal: Extremely.
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  Trisha Smith: It's so dramatic.
• 1:03
  Leyla Zmeskal: 100% How are you doing?
• 1:08
  Trisha Smith: I'm good. How are you?
• 1:11
  Leyla Zmeskal: Peachy.
• 1:11
  Trisha Smith: Anything new?
• 1:13
  Leyla Zmeskal: I mean, I got some shit in the works, but I ain't saying nothing. Right now.
• 1:14
  Leyla Zmeskal: In case it falls through and then I'd be like, never mind.
• 1:19
  Leyla Zmeskal: Cancel those comments a few weeks ago.
• 1:25
  Trisha Smith: I hate that.
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  Leyla Zmeskal: So I ain't saying nothing. So I did watch a really cute movie the other day.
• 1:31
  Trisha Smith: Did you?
• 1:32
  Leyla Zmeskal: I did.
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  Trisha Smith: What was it called?
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  Leyla Zmeskal: It was the latest Ghostbusters.
• 1:37
  Trisha Smith: What? What latest Ghostbusters?Like with the women?
• 1:41
  Leyla Zmeskal: No, it was, there's another Ghostbusters after that.
• 1:44
  Trisha Smith: What?
• 1:44
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's super fucking cute.
• 1:46
  Trisha Smith: I have not seen or heard about it.
• 1:49
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh my god. It's called Afterlife.
• 1:52
  Trisha Smith: Oh, so it's not called Ghostbusters?
• 1:54
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's called Ghostbusters Afterlife.
• 1:56
  Trisha Smith: Oh, okay.
• 1:57
  Leyla Zmeskal: It was in 2021.
• 1:59
  Trisha Smith: Oh, who's in it?
• 2:00
  Leyla Zmeskal: There's appearances by Danny Aykroyd, Bill Murray. Ernie Hudson. It's also got the kid from the Stranger Things in it.
• 2:11
  Trisha Smith: Okay.
• 2:12
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's got this really cute girl that's like the biggest geek, but she's so cute.
• 2:15
  Leyla Zmeskal: She does such a great job in the role. Paul Rudd
• 2:21
  Trisha Smith: Oh, okay.
• 2:23
  Leyla Zmeskal: Is in it and the very, very, very end of the movie, it's got Sigourney Weaver.
• 2:28
  Trisha Smith: No, Rick Moranis?
• 2:30
  Leyla Zmeskal: No Rick Moranis, but it does have, the girl in it.
• 2:34
  Trisha Smith: Annie Potts?
• 2:35
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yes.
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  Trisha Smith: Okay,
• 2:36
  Leyla Zmeskal: She's in, she's only in there in the very beginning. But I tell you what, I really liked it.
• 2:41
  Trisha Smith: I'm going to have to look for it.
• 2:42
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's so cute. If you remember, when we did the episode about the Warren's Deep Dive. I gave a joke about the atoms, don't trust them.
• 2:51
  Trisha Smith: Adam, Adam.
• 2:53
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah. I got that from the movie. Because I was watching the movie, and I was like so funny. Yeah, it was super cute. I highly recommend it. I really liked it.
• 3:05
  Trisha Smith: I'll have to check it out. What'd you watch it on?
• 3:07
  Leyla Zmeskal: I've rented it from Amazon Prime, but it was
• 3:11
  Trisha Smith: Alright, I have to check it out. I watched The worth it to me.
• 3:15
  Trisha Smith: King's Man?
• 3:17
  Leyla Zmeskal: I did too. The latest one?
• 3:19
  Trisha Smith: Umm-hmm.
• 3:19
  Leyla Zmeskal: Did you like it?
• 3:20
  Trisha Smith: I did not.
• 3:22
  Leyla Zmeskal: I've seen the The Kingsmen, and I thought it was okay.
• 3:25
  Trisha Smith: I, Okay. So this is the third one.
• 3:28
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yes.
• 3:28
  Trisha Smith: The first one I loved
• 3:30
  Leyla Zmeskal: It was good. I remember.
• 3:31
  Trisha Smith: The second one was like. I mean, come on, it was so far fetched with her special Island and all that. That was weird. And then this one was so depressing.
• 3:46
  Leyla Zmeskal: It was sad.
• 3:47
  Trisha Smith: Wasn't it? There were so many like, in the first one so many gadgety things that made the little fight scenes
• 3:53
  Leyla Zmeskal: Was this, this was supposed to be the prequel though, right?
• 3:56
  Trisha Smith: It was, and it was just so. There wasn't a lot of It was interesting how they, at the end of the movie, it was action, not the kind of action I expected with the people that were in the movie. I don't remember the the names of the people that were in the movie, but I just expected more and it interesting they're like, this is what we're doing.
• 4:11
  Trisha Smith: just wasn't there. And I was like, What a letdown.
• 4:14
  Trisha Smith: Especially because I felt, I feel like I'm invested in the whole series. Because I liked the first one so much. So I am disappointed.
• 4:25
  Trisha Smith: Right.
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  Leyla Zmeskal: And then you're like, oh, okay,
• 4:34
  Trisha Smith: I'm laughing, I'm kind of laughing to myself right now because I'm like yeah, the second was so far fetched with their little island but then the first one, with his little cell phone thing, that then all the people went to the special place, you know, thing to get away from. And it's like, that was equally far fetched. I don't know what I'm talking about. But anyways, yeah, I mean, it was entertaining enough.
• 5:00
  Leyla Zmeskal: I, yeah.
• 5:01
  Trisha Smith: I wouldn't recommend it to anybody. Like unless you were a super huge fan and you really, really want to see the prequels. Do it.
• 5:09
  Leyla Zmeskal: I'd recommend Ghostbusters though.
• 5:10
  Trisha Smith: Okay, I'll have to watch that.
• 5:11
  Leyla Zmeskal: Totally recommending that. That's funny that I did watch, you know, that one too. The King's Man.
• 5:17
  Trisha Smith: Yeah. So other than that, I mean, like I'm having a hard time finding. I did. I regret my choices sometimes. I started reading a book in a series I love. I love, they're a duo, Douglas Preston and Lincoln Child. They write a series about Agent Pendergast.
• 5:37
  Trisha Smith: He's an FBI agent. I think I've mentioned
• 5:41
  Leyla Zmeskal: I remember you talking about this before.
• 5:42
  Trisha Smith: Yes. And I've been following them for years. Well they have like a spin off series that they've been writing with Nora Kelly, and she's an archaeologist. And
• 5:52
  Leyla Zmeskal: Okay, I remember you mentioning her before as well.
• 5:54
  Trisha Smith: And Cory Swanson, who's now an FBI agent, but she was in one of the earlier Pendergast novels as a, like a teenager.
• 6:03
  Leyla Zmeskal: That's probably why I don't remember that name.
• 6:05
  Trisha Smith: Right. And I think the book was called Still Life
• 6:05
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh.
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  Trisha Smith: So I'm like, oh, he'll like this. And then I can with Crows. And she was a teenager, troublemaker and he like, takes her under his wing.
• 6:12
  Trisha Smith: And as she grows up through the books, she, they don't really mention her anymore. But she becomes an FBI agent. And she's featured in these Nora Kelly books. And I'm on the third one that was just released in mid February, or I was. I finished it now. It's called Diablo Mesa.
• 6:32
  Trisha Smith: And It's very good. And I thought my husband might like it because it involves Roswell.
• 6:41
  Trisha Smith: kill two birds with one stone. I can, we can enjoy an audio book together while we take this road trip. And I get to like, technically read my book at the same time.
• 6:51
  Leyla Zmeskal: Exactly, exactly.
• 6:52
  Trisha Smith: Not a good idea.
• 6:52
  Trisha Smith: Because he had so many questions. He's like, Who's this guy? Why does he sound like
• 7:01
  Leyla Zmeskal: That's so funny.
• 7:01
  Leyla Zmeskal: I can picture Don doing that this?
• 7:06
  Leyla Zmeskal: too.
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  Trisha Smith: Right. And then, you know, like, I don't do audio books and
• 7:10
  Leyla Zmeskal: Right.
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  Trisha Smith: the person that was reading it
• 7:12
  Leyla Zmeskal: Right.
• 7:12
  Trisha Smith: It's a man and it's a woman, and it's another
• 7:12
  Leyla Zmeskal: Was not very good?
• 7:12
  Trisha Smith: No, she just made some of the characters sound really, like questionable. Not what I envisioned in my mind at all because she she alters her voice to woman
• 7:28
  Leyla Zmeskal: Who does not alter their voice ever?
• 7:33
  Trisha Smith: Anyway, so it was just very disappointing. The book, because I had to listen to the whole thing, which was 11 hours. You know, we listened to it on the way up and then on the way back. But yeah, too many questions from that man. I'm like, I will never ever listen to an audio book that I'm currently reading, with you again. And then of course, we get there. And I want. You know, normally I read before I go to bed, so I want to find out what's gonna happen. I can't.
• 8:03
  Leyla Zmeskal: Because he's invested in the story as well.
• 8:06
  Trisha Smith: So I can't skip ahead, because I have to listen to it. So
• 8:09
  Leyla Zmeskal: Why did you skip ahead?
• 8:10
  Trisha Smith: I know.
• 8:11
  Leyla Zmeskal: I would do audiobooks. I would love to be like, a voice actor.
• 8:18
  Trisha Smith: Really? Not you.
• 8:20
  Leyla Zmeskal: But I would totally love to do it.
• 8:24
  Trisha Smith: I would listen, if you read.
• 8:26
  Leyla Zmeskal: Thank you. Kenny, my old employee, he always always said that I should be either a phone sex operator or
• 8:31
  Trisha Smith: I think we talked about this a couple episodes ago go into voice acting. Because he always said, Leyla, every time you got on a phone, your voice changed. I'm like, I don't know what you mean everytime I, I got on the phone, my voice will change. I have no idea. Kenny's gonna listen to this and like she fucking just did it.
• 9:01
  Trisha Smith: about your, your Oh no. We talked about that podcast called Operator.
• 9:06
  Leyla Zmeskal: Operator.
• 9:07
  Trisha Smith: You said the same thing. Oh my goodness. Okay. So if you're wondering why Leyla has such a potty mouth today, more than usual.
• 9:17
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's our drinks.
• 9:17
  Trisha Smith: It's the drink.
• 9:20
  Leyla Zmeskal: God Damn it
• 9:21
  Trisha Smith: Yeah. Today's a good one. It's, we gave it a nice name. It's called, well, it's, I shouldn't say we gave it. I'm taking all the credit.
• 9:29
  Leyla Zmeskal: We dubbed the name.
• 9:31
  Trisha Smith: Take all the credit here. It's the Bee's knees, which I've heard many times.
• 9:37
  Leyla Zmeskal: I mean, that's a saying.
• 9:38
  Trisha Smith: And I've seen it on a lot of menus for different, you know, restaurants and it's not an uncommon drink. But we made it with that fancy pants Empress gin.
• 9:53
  Leyla Zmeskal: Mm hmm. That was my French for hahaha
• 10:02
  Trisha Smith: So we named it the Royal Bee's Knees, because you know, Empress.
• 10:07
  Leyla Zmeskal: Of course.
• 10:07
  Trisha Smith: And it's so simple. It's just gin, and I squeezed some lemon in, and it's got some honey syrup. But it's like, I don't like lemon. That was my first mistake. And this gin is so pretty. I want to use it in everything.
• 10:23
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's so pretty, but
• 10:25
  Trisha Smith: But it's so flowery.
• 10:28
  Leyla Zmeskal: As someone who is. I know we had a gin drink, like a few weeks ago.
• 10:34
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 10:35
  Leyla Zmeskal: And it was, for me, okay. I am not a traditional gin drinker. So this particular beverage for me, was so floral.
• 10:47
  Trisha Smith: Yes.
• 10:48
  Leyla Zmeskal: And even though there was like a honey syrup in there, it did nothing
• 10:55
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 10:55
  Leyla Zmeskal: to squash the taste of the gin. I. this. I have to say this drink was not my favourite.
• 11:01
  Trisha Smith: Right. I actually added more honey syrup, thinking that would like, make it sweeter.
• 11:05
  Leyla Zmeskal: You saw my face.
• 11:07
  Trisha Smith: I know. And you were, you looked at me and you're like,
• 11:09
  Leyla Zmeskal: I think it intensified the floral flavor, the gin flavor, and you're like, how did it do that? I'm like, I don't know.
• 11:16
  Trisha Smith: And all I could taste was the lemon. Now. I'm not kidding when I say I took half a lemon and squeezed, not even a hard squeeze. I just squeezed some juice in there and then divided it between two cocktails. And I still could just taste so much lemon.
• 11:31
  Leyla Zmeskal: I didn't taste the lemon, it was very gin forward for me. I mean, we'll have hit or misses.
• 11:38
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 11:38
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's beautiful.
• 11:39
  Trisha Smith: But yeah, it wasn't one of my favorites.
• 11:41
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah, not mine either.
• 11:42
  Trisha Smith: So yeah, so we switched wine.
• 11:46
  Leyla Zmeskal: We totally did.
• 11:48
  Trisha Smith: We switched to wine.
• 11:49
  Leyla Zmeskal: Anyway.
• 11:50
  Trisha Smith: Well, today, I have just a super short story for you.
• 11:56
  Leyla Zmeskal: I'm okay. I think we've done
• 11:58
  Trisha Smith: It's a fun
• 11:59
  Leyla Zmeskal: done some pretty heavy stories.
• 12:01
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, it's not.
• 12:01
  Trisha Smith: It's super, like, there's only so much information about it.
• 12:04
  Trisha Smith: It's not super in depth. I keep wanting to say it's a fun story.
• 12:08
  Trisha Smith: It's really not.
• 12:12
  Leyla Zmeskal: Compared to maybe what we. We've done a lot of like, really in depth and very long stories. So when you say fun, I think it's fun in a short, sweet, there you go kind of way.
• 12:23
  Trisha Smith: To the point.
• 12:23
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, and it's not ghosty. It's not
• 12:27
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's not ghosty?
• 12:28
  Trisha Smith: It's not ghosty.
• 12:28
  Trisha Smith: It's not scary. It's not
• 12:30
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh I'm excited about it.
• 12:31
  Trisha Smith: But it's, it's a little weird. It's more of a mystery. Do you remember last summer? Diane did a story about Eugene the mummy?
• 12:42
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yes, I do. Oh my god,
• 12:44
  Trisha Smith: Riding around with people.
• 12:46
  Leyla Zmeskal: I know. God Dammit, I miss you, Diane.
• 12:51
  Trisha Smith: That was a good one. I mean, it's so entertaining.
• 12:55
  Leyla Zmeskal: You know what, I miss the way she tells stories.
• 12:57
  Trisha Smith: I know. So this story is also about a body in the window. There's a bridal shop named La Popular in Chihuahua, Mexico with a mannequin in the window that made her debut on March 25 1930.
• 13:19
  Leyla Zmeskal: Nice.
• 13:20
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, she's been there a long time. 90 years.
• 13:23
  Leyla Zmeskal: That's a long time.
• 13:24
  Leyla Zmeskal: Right.
• 13:24
  Trisha Smith: Right. She was wearing a new wedding gown, but that wasn't what caught the locals attention. It was how lifelike she appeared in the window. Her face was incredibly detailed with wide set eyes, long lashes and a flush to her cheeks that made her seem very real. Most mannequins of the time, were plain and stiff with very little color, except the makeup or eyes that were painted on.
• 13:55
  Trisha Smith: But this one had creases in her skin, varicose veins.
• 14:00
  Leyla Zmeskal: That's a little awkward.
• 14:02
  Trisha Smith: Right, and hands so lifelike that it made people stop and stare. And start talking. It was pointed out that there was a strong resemblance between the mannequin and the daughter of the shop owner Pascuala Esparza, who had recently died from a black widow spider bite on her wedding day.
• 14:24
  Trisha Smith: Soon a rumor began to spread that Pascuala was so grief stricken that she had her daughter's remains mummified.
• 14:35
  Leyla Zmeskal: Was it she or he?
• 14:36
  Trisha Smith: She.
• 14:38
  Leyla Zmeskal: It was a mom?
• 14:39
  Trisha Smith: The mom did it.
• 14:40
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh for. Oh, cuz I heard the story before and I thought it was a dad the whole time.
• 14:45
  Trisha Smith: There's a man that owns the shop now. But the original shop owner was a woman and this is her daughter. But she had her daughter's body mummified and then put her in the window in a wedding dress, so she that could be the bride that she never got to be in life. Although Mrs. Esparza denied the rumor, no one believed her and it continued to spread throughout the years.
• 15:10
  Trisha Smith: Even the daughter's name had been forgotten as the story of La Pascualita began to take on a life of its own. It was even said, now this is like a far fetched rumor. But it was even said that a visiting French magician became so lovestruck, that at night, he would bring her to life and take her dancing around the town.
• 15:38
  Leyla Zmeskal: I'm gonna cry bullshit on that one.
• 15:42
  Trisha Smith: He's a French magician.
• 15:45
  Leyla Zmeskal: Don't give two shits.
• 15:47
  Trisha Smith: You never know.
• 15:47
  Trisha Smith: Those Frenchmen
• 15:50
  Leyla Zmeskal: I still cry, suave as they may be, I'm still gonna cry bullshit.
• 15:57
  Trisha Smith: I'm not, I'm not arguing with you. In the course of how many? 90 years, many people have claimed that her eyes follow you as you walk around the store and others have said that they've walked past only to turn around and she's moved just slightly. Only the owner and trusted employees are allowed to handle her when her dresses are changed twice a week under complete secrecy. They put a curtain up around her.
• 16:29
  Leyla Zmeskal: Okay, because that's, they're just perpetuating the
• 16:33
  Trisha Smith: Of course.
• 16:34
  Leyla Zmeskal: the legend about her.
• 16:35
  Trisha Smith: For 90 years. Of course. According to the Mexican spiritual almanac.
• 16:43
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh, okay. Oh, we're getting serious. Its the Mexican spiritual almanac. We're serious.
• 16:48
  Trisha Smith: I did not even know there was like, is it like
• 16:50
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's but it sounds very official and serious.
• 16:50
  Leyla Zmeskal: the weather?
• 16:51
  Trisha Smith: Is it by decade? I don't know. The day she's appeared, March 25 is the Day of Incarnation. So some locals and brides to be actually pray or leave gifts for her at the shop.
• 17:09
  Trisha Smith: Do you know what the Day of Incarnation is?
• 17:11
  Leyla Zmeskal: The Day of the Dead?
• 17:12
  Trisha Smith: Nope.
• 17:13
  Leyla Zmeskal: What?
• 17:13
  Trisha Smith: I had to Google it.
• 17:14
  Leyla Zmeskal: Cinco de Mayo?
• 17:14
  Trisha Smith: No. You wanna guess again? Cinco de Mayo.
• 17:25
  Leyla Zmeskal: Not the Day of the Dead, not Cinco de Mayo, um,
• 17:28
  Trisha Smith: It's a Catholic thing. You're never gonna to get it.
• 17:31
  Leyla Zmeskal: Fourth of July.
• 17:31
  Trisha Smith: Nope. Day of incarnation is celebrated on March 25 each year. More importantly, since it occurs nine months before the birth of Jesus on Christmas Day, the Annunciation marks the actual incarnation of Jesus Christ, the moment that Jesus was conceived and that the Son of God became the Son of the Virgin.
• 18:01
  Leyla Zmeskal: What?
• 18:02
  Trisha Smith: Exactly. I told you, it's a Catholic thing.
• 18:08
  Leyla Zmeskal: I did have, like my second guess was still in May.
• 18:11
  Trisha Smith: This is
• 18:12
  Leyla Zmeskal: I get half credit.
• 18:13
  Trisha Smith: March. March 25.
• 18:15
  Leyla Zmeskal: I get an eighth of a credit for the M month.
• 18:18
  Trisha Smith: So
• 18:20
  Leyla Zmeskal: Moving on.
• 18:22
  Trisha Smith: So basically, the Day of Incarnation is the Conception of Jesus. So others have said it's good luck for a successful marriage to wear one of the dresses that was displayed on La Pascualita.
• 18:38
  Leyla Zmeskal: Of course they can charge top dollar for those pieces.
• 18:42
  Trisha Smith: If you think that she was a corpse, would you want to wear one of those dresses
• 18:46
  Leyla Zmeskal: They have. They have strange traditions, Trisha.
• 18:49
  Trisha Smith: I don't know. It's just weird. I don't care where you're from. Wearing the dress off the body of a corpse is weird.
• 18:56
  Leyla Zmeskal: Well,
• 18:56
  Trisha Smith: Different times?
• 18:57
  Leyla Zmeskal: I wasn't gonna say it. I mean, it is one of my favorite phrases. Trisha just different times back then.
• 19:08
  Trisha Smith: No, no, no, no.
• 19:08
  Trisha Smith: This is still going on today.
• 19:12
  Trisha Smith: There's no different times.
• 19:14
  Leyla Zmeskal: I can't.
• 19:14
  Trisha Smith: So could this actually be a bride corpse? Of course, there's been a lot of debate.
• 19:21
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yes.
• 19:22
  Trisha Smith: There's a lot of opinions.
• 19:24
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yes.
• 19:24
  Trisha Smith: Mostly between doctors, funeral directors morticians. But especially the locals that live there,
• 19:32
  Leyla Zmeskal: Of course.
• 19:32
  Trisha Smith: and see her all the time. So but I don't know.
• 19:35
  Leyla Zmeskal: Okay, think about it. There was Diane's story about, what was his name?
• 19:40
  Trisha Smith: Eugene.
• 19:41
  Leyla Zmeskal: Eugene the mummy.
• 19:41
  Leyla Zmeskal: And then we have, down in Key West, the story that I did about the doctor who stole his, love of his life and kept her corpse in decent condition. However, she did not look like herself when she was discovered.
• 20:05
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 20:06
  Leyla Zmeskal: So, I don't know.
• 20:09
  Trisha Smith: So there's the argument that Chihuahua Mexico has a semi arid climate, so that can help preserve the body.
• 20:20
  Leyla Zmeskal: Okay.
• 20:20
  Trisha Smith: Like, think about Egyptian mummies.
• 20:23
  Leyla Zmeskal: Okay, Key West is more humid.
• 20:25
  Trisha Smith: Right. Which humidity is like the worst. It's the death
• 20:30
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's the death of the, of the undead.
• 20:32
  Trisha Smith: Yeah. But how can an embalmed body that's handled twice a week and displayed in a store window with sunlight, last for 90 years?
• 20:43
  Leyla Zmeskal: I don't believe it. I think it was probably the work of a very good artist.
• 20:49
  Trisha Smith: Right. And then there's her face. I read that a body when it's thoroughly flushed with a strong embalming fluid, the lips and eyelids will noticeably dry out, leaving them shrunken and wrinkled.
• 21:03
  Leyla Zmeskal: Ewww.
• 21:03
  Trisha Smith: Like jerky.
• 21:05
  Leyla Zmeskal: Gross.
• 21:06
  Trisha Smith: Well, again, think about Egyptian mummies.
• 21:08
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah.
• 21:09
  Trisha Smith: So but La Pascualita's face looks too soft. And even if they had used some sort of Cosmetology wax, I mean, I don't know that you could cover up that kind of dehydration.
• 21:23
  Leyla Zmeskal: There's cosmetology wax?
• 21:26
  Trisha Smith: Is that all you heard out of that?
• 21:30
  Leyla Zmeskal: I want to know more about this cosmetology wax.
• 21:33
  Trisha Smith: They're for morticians, you know, to like, fill in the gaps when things
• 21:39
  Leyla Zmeskal: What?
• 21:40
  Trisha Smith: Like, if you're in a very serious accident and you lose a chunk. Then they just like,
• 21:46
  Leyla Zmeskal: Fill it in with wax?
• 21:47
  Trisha Smith: Yeah. And then you can like put makeup over it.
• 21:50
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh. Oh, okay.
• 21:51
  Trisha Smith: Or, you know, build up, like if the
• 21:55
  Leyla Zmeskal: Jerky lips?
• 21:55
  Trisha Smith: Like what if they take out their false teeth and things like that, and they just build it back up. But that's a lot. I mean, 90 years, that's a lot
• 22:04
  Leyla Zmeskal: That's a lot of cosmetology wax.
• 22:05
  Trisha Smith: Absolutely. When you take into consideration that Vladimir Lenin's corpse has been on display for almost as long as this mannequin's been in the window. 1924 was when they put his body on display.
• 22:19
  Leyla Zmeskal: Wow.
• 22:19
  Trisha Smith: With a team of experts and a climate controlled environment, and doesn't look nearly as good as La Pascualita, it's highly unlikely she's an actual person.
• 22:32
  Leyla Zmeskal: I agree with that statement. I think that it was a genius marketing ploy of someone 90 years ago who was a fantastic artist.
• 22:39
  Trisha Smith: Maybe they were asked to create a mannequin that looked similar to her daughter, if her daughter actually died?
• 22:45
  Leyla Zmeskal: Absolutely.
• 22:46
  Trisha Smith: Many experts overwhelmingly agree that without flawless embalming and a constant environment, and continuous work on the body, it would be almost impossible. But the main reason there hasn't been 100% certainty that she's not real, between experts and tourists alike, is her hands.
• 23:12
  Trisha Smith: Like when you see pictures of her hands, they're just too realistic.
• 23:18
  Leyla Zmeskal: Really.
• 23:18
  Trisha Smith: The skin is discolored. Like it's almost like it's graying, like on the tips, and the creases are deep, like an actual hand.
• 23:29
  Leyla Zmeskal: Really?
• 23:30
  Trisha Smith: And the cuticles have dried out and drawn back from the nail bed. They look like a dead person's hands.
• 23:37
  Leyla Zmeskal: No. Maybe they cut like, arms off of like, corpses.
• 23:41
  Trisha Smith: Somebody commented on that. They're like, what if she is totally a mannequin but with like a real person's, but
• 23:49
  Leyla Zmeskal: Body parts.
• 23:49
  Leyla Zmeskal: still,
• 23:50
  Trisha Smith: No, I don't know that how those would survive any better than an entire body.
• 23:52
  Trisha Smith: Because of her hands though, that's why even with all the evidence that says otherwise, people still believe she is an embalmed corpse and tourists still visit La Casa De La Pasqualita.
• 24:09
  Leyla Zmeskal: I totally would visit that site, that shop too.
• 24:12
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, they give, I mean if you go online, you can get the address, and they welcome tourists to come and, and view her.
• 24:20
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh, absolutely. I would absolutely say, oh shit, you know where we are. We have to walk by here.
• 24:26
  Trisha Smith: We accidentally made it to Chihuahua Mexico. We have to go to this bridal shop.
• 24:31
  Leyla Zmeskal: Says no one ever but if they did.
• 24:34
  Trisha Smith: What else is there to see there?
• 24:36
  Leyla Zmeskal: In Chihuahua?
• 24:36
  Leyla Zmeskal: Lots of breeders that breed Chihuahuas?
• 24:39
  Trisha Smith: Like dogs?
• 24:40
  Leyla Zmeskal: Chihuahua, Chihuahua, Mexico.
• 24:43
  Trisha Smith: I don't think they just have dogs there.
• 24:47
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's Chihuahua.
• 24:50
  Trisha Smith: I'm gonna have to Google that.
• 24:51
  Leyla Zmeskal: Am I wrong?
• 24:52
  Trisha Smith: What's in Chihuahua Mexico?
• 24:53
  Leyla Zmeskal: We'll definitely have to do some Googles on that.
• 24:55
  Trisha Smith: Because now I need to know.
• 24:57
  Leyla Zmeskal: Betcha the world class breeder of Chihuahuas are there.
• 24:59
  Trisha Smith: You think?
• 25:00
  Leyla Zmeskal: Maybe.
• 25:01
  Trisha Smith: No.
• 25:02
  Leyla Zmeskal: If I was a breeder of chihuahuas, I'd be like, you know where I'm setting in my shop? Chihuahua, Mexico.
• 25:07
  Trisha Smith: They're probably from like New York City.
• 25:10
  Leyla Zmeskal: New York City?
• 25:12
  Trisha Smith: Haven't you watched Beverly Hills Chihuahua?
• 25:16
  Leyla Zmeskal: No.
• 25:18
  Trisha Smith: Clearly.
• 25:18
  Leyla Zmeskal: Have you?
• 25:19
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, I absolutely have.
• 25:22
  Leyla Zmeskal: I totally don't know how to respond to that right now, Trisha.
• 25:25
  Trisha Smith: I have kids.
• 25:26
  Leyla Zmeskal: For once, I'm absolutely speechless.
• 25:33
  Trisha Smith: Anyhow.
• 25:34
  Leyla Zmeskal: Exactly I would absolutely visit that bridal shop though. Yeah, I would want to see for myself.
• 25:39
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, well, for now, you can see the pictures, which I have, because they're super creepy. Now her face looks, I don't know, to me, her face looks like a mannequin with too much makeup.
• 25:49
  Leyla Zmeskal: Right.
• 25:50
  Trisha Smith: But her hands.
• 25:53
  Leyla Zmeskal: Different story?
• 25:54
  Trisha Smith: Yeah.
• 25:55
  Leyla Zmeskal: So that may give validation to where they kill unsuspect tourists hand models.
• 26:00
  Trisha Smith: No.
• 26:02
  Leyla Zmeskal: I mean, are you a hand model? Visit Chihuahua, Mexico. Come to our bridal shop.
• 26:04
  Leyla Zmeskal: We'll take goof care of you and give you the VIP treatment. Chop off your arms. Stick them on our mannequin.
• 26:14
  Trisha Smith: So how many people have left Mexico with, and they're handless? No one.
• 26:21
  Leyla Zmeskal: But how many people have never left Mexico?
• 26:26
  Leyla Zmeskal: Dare I say.
• 26:27
  Trisha Smith: Just hanging around with no hands?
• 26:28
  Leyla Zmeskal: Dun dun dun.
• 26:30
  Trisha Smith: Okay, well, we can debate that later. Now. I need another glass of wine because
• 26:35
  Leyla Zmeskal: it was just too much shenanigans.
• 26:37
  Trisha Smith: It was too much.
• 26:37
  Trisha Smith: Yes, this was too much.
• 26:39
  Leyla Zmeskal: This was a fun one though. I enjoyed it.
• 26:41
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, it's, I mean, again, not really haunted, but it's a mystery.
• 26:47
  Leyla Zmeskal: The whole other thing about Lenin. Was it Lenin?
• 26:51
  Trisha Smith: Yes.
• 26:52
  Leyla Zmeskal: I did not know that. So that was a really good
• 26:55
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, his body is still on display today. That's almost 100 years.
• 27:00
  Leyla Zmeskal: That was a really good addition to the story because I had no idea about that. And that was
• 27:05
  Trisha Smith: And he's not looking so hot. He's not wearing bridal gowns and getting his makeup done every two weeks.
• 27:10
  Leyla Zmeskal: That's probably why he's not looking so hot.
• 27:13
  Trisha Smith: Well. But he does have climate control
• 27:17
  Leyla Zmeskal: and a team of experts.
• 27:19
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, handlers.
• 27:21
  Leyla Zmeskal: That's a good one. I liked it.
• 27:22
  Trisha Smith: Thank you. All right.
• 27:25
  Leyla Zmeskal: I liked it.
• 27:25
  Trisha Smith: Until next week.
• 27:27
  Leyla Zmeskal: Cheers.
• 27:28
  Trisha Smith: Cheers.
• 27:29
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• 27:32
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• 27:36
  Leyla Zmeskal: Thanks for listening.
• 27:37
  Trisha Smith: Until next time.
• 27:38
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