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Best of Chuck & Buck 1-9 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Football Friday.
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  Speaker 1: Good Friday morning, it is Chucking back in the Morning.
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  Speaker 4: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Welcome into the
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  Speaker 4: radio show. It is a football Friday, and they seem
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  Speaker 4: to be getting more and tense as we go.
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  Speaker 1: Football Friday.
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  Speaker 4: We got you, We got you in a compromising position
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  Speaker 4: here for the next four hours. We're gonna take it
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  Speaker 4: till ten o'clock talking all things Seattle sports. Ashley Ryan,
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  Speaker 4: former Mariner, Bucky Jacobs, and my name is Chuck Powell,
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  Speaker 4: and Happy Friday to you all. Just a quick side
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  Speaker 4: note just before we dive into one of the most
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  Speaker 4: bizarre stories in the history of Seattle sports.
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  Speaker 1: What's the deal with all the.
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  Speaker 4: ESPN analysts wearing the jackets with the hoodies underneath them
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  Speaker 4: that like a new thing is that, Like, is.
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  Speaker 1: That like a Q is it? Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: It's so it's got like it's like a normal jacket,
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  Speaker 5: but it's got like a sweatshirt.
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  Speaker 2: Hood Yeah, he's.
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  Speaker 4: Got a sweat yeah, hoodie underneath the like popular, it's
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  Speaker 4: very popular.
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  Speaker 6: What's the former lineman that's on? I think he's on
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  Speaker 6: maybe Amazon the Yeah, he's the one I think the first.
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  Speaker 1: Oh really he started a fashion.
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  Speaker 2: And then he stopped doing it because everyone else started.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and then everybody started following me. He's like, I
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  Speaker 6: never realized Andrew Whitworth was the.
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  Speaker 4: Coolest guy in the room, darting fashion trends and then
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  Speaker 4: decides to tap out of them when too many others
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  Speaker 4: are copying his look.
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  Speaker 7: Ye.
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  Speaker 2: I can't tell you, but I wouldn't put it past
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  Speaker 2: a wow.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, that's impressive.
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  Speaker 4: That's the most Andrew whitwear was one of the best
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  Speaker 4: tackles of the modern era.
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  Speaker 1: Right, that's more impressive?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good on you. I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: he really does own his look. He's got a good look.
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  Speaker 4: He's kind of got that bucket, like, hey, I'm a
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  Speaker 4: big guy, you know. The hairline kind of went a
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  Speaker 4: few years ago. I'm just gonna make this chisel beard
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  Speaker 4: go bald, you know, get some sunshine so that I
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  Speaker 4: don't look, you know, like a bug zapper that I'm
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  Speaker 4: so pale and uh and yeah, I'm gonna go out
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  Speaker 4: there and just set fashion trends everywhere whitworth.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I'm gonna just go ahead and say if
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  Speaker 6: there is any similarities that those aren't my choice as well.
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  Speaker 6: You kind of know, like if you're challenge then you
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  Speaker 6: just embrace it. Just let it go. Yeah, don't try
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  Speaker 6: to hold on. Yeah, you're out there, you're trying to
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  Speaker 6: hold on.
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  Speaker 2: You look like a fool, like a fool.
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  Speaker 1: It's okay.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know when I you know, I realized, like, man,
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  Speaker 4: I've got the perfect bod.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and this enormous member. I'm just gonna own.
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  Speaker 2: It, right, I'm not gonna let people similar I'm not.
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  Speaker 4: Gonna let people make fun of me. I'm just gonna
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  Speaker 4: own my thing. I actually know that reference. Okay, Well,
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  Speaker 4: welcome in. It is Chuck Buck and Ashley with you
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  Speaker 4: here on this Friday. We got so much to discuss today,
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  Speaker 4: and of course we're gonna start with one of the
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  Speaker 4: great reversals in the history of sports man demon Williams like,
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  Speaker 4: we like, we don't have enough to discuss. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I've got some baseball things I'd like to talk about
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  Speaker 4: with the two of you and with our audience, but
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  Speaker 4: there's no chance because Demand Williams Junior has decided to
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  Speaker 4: do this in the middle of all of the NFL
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  Speaker 4: playoff action getting ready to get underway. So there's not
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  Speaker 4: much time to discuss anything because of these anything other
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  Speaker 4: than these two subjects. And yet these two subjects are
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  Speaker 4: so just ultimately fascinating. So yesterday, as you're getting ready
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  Speaker 4: to watch the National Championship Game, at least this is
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  Speaker 4: when I was informed, and I think a lot of
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  Speaker 4: people were informed.
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  Speaker 1: There was a report.
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  Speaker 4: Pete Famill on the sidelines for ESPN their coverage of
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  Speaker 4: the National Championship Game, and actually the report was about
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  Speaker 4: some things about the game, and then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 4: at the very end of it, he goes, and this
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  Speaker 4: just in regarding one of the bigger stories that has
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  Speaker 4: popped up here in the last twenty four hours that
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  Speaker 4: has had all of the college football world and the
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  Speaker 4: entire college athletic world talking. Demond Williams Junior, And I
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  Speaker 4: think I'm going to get some sort of update that
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  Speaker 4: he's going to LSU, right like, we now know that
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  Speaker 4: it's official, he's going to LSU, has decided he's going
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  Speaker 4: to return to Washington.
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  Speaker 2: Whoa wha, whoa what.
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  Speaker 4: Shortly thereafter, and I mean within minutes, Jedfish pat Chun
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  Speaker 4: both released statements saying, yes, he is returning.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to welcome him back.
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  Speaker 4: He's got a lot of splaining to do, he's got
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  Speaker 4: some apologies to make, he's got some bridges to mend
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  Speaker 4: with his teammates, so on and so forth. But they
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  Speaker 4: hand out their statements, and that's all they're handing out
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  Speaker 4: right now. And then of course we get the demand
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  Speaker 4: Williams announcement that yes, after careful consideration, I have decided
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  Speaker 4: to return to Washington, a place that I love, with
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  Speaker 4: teammates that I love. And so, after forty eight hours
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  Speaker 4: of husky fans, husky analyst, you know, shouting down Demond
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  Speaker 4: Williams Junior's very existence, all of a sudden, everybody has
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  Speaker 4: to wrestle with the fact do I want even want
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  Speaker 4: the guy back? I mean, just a crazy story, I think,
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  Speaker 4: a byproduct of today's modern nil world. I still hope
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  Speaker 4: that the story leads to reasonable understandings of how it works.
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  Speaker 4: And I think we actually did get evidence of that,
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  Speaker 4: so that maybe some of these guard rails that people
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  Speaker 4: have been saying for the last forty eight hours, including myself,
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  Speaker 4: that aren't up, well, it looks like that they are.
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  Speaker 4: It looks like there is some protection these wrinkles that
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  Speaker 4: they've added to try to keep people from just transferring
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  Speaker 4: on a whim. I mean, Bucky, it looks like to
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  Speaker 4: me that it obviously tripped up Demond Williams Junior. I
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  Speaker 4: don't think there's any other way to read this. He realized, Oh,
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  Speaker 4: I can't do this, and if I do want to
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  Speaker 4: do this, it's going to cost me what?
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  Speaker 1: What can I go back? I don't want to pay that.
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  Speaker 4: I think he realized I don't have a legal When
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  Speaker 4: you sign your paper on a revenue sharing contract, when
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  Speaker 4: you sign your name to that contract, it turns out
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  Speaker 4: that you do have some obligation to live up to.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that it took another attorney to step
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  Speaker 4: in that he hired yesterday to inform him, Yeah, you
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  Speaker 4: really don't have a legal leg to stand on. You
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  Speaker 4: can leave if you want, but this is what you're
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  Speaker 4: going to have to give up, and then he comes
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  Speaker 4: racing back to Washington hopefully hoping that he would take
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  Speaker 4: them back.
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  Speaker 6: The whole thing is it's crazy. I mean, I'm hoping
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  Speaker 6: that even though I mean to some degree there's damage
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  Speaker 6: has been done, but ultimately it is still back to
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  Speaker 6: what it was January twod when he signed the contract
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  Speaker 6: right as far as outside of the collateral damage of
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  Speaker 6: you know, burning some bridges and you have some fans
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  Speaker 6: that are going to not support you until you throw
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  Speaker 6: a couple of touchdowns then they will, but you have
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  Speaker 6: some you know, a university just there's been some damage,
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  Speaker 6: but ultimately it's still demon Williams is now going to
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  Speaker 6: be the quarterback at you dub.
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  Speaker 1: I do think that, without a doubt it is.
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  Speaker 6: It is a sign that hopefully the higher ups, whoever's
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  Speaker 6: run a call in the shots at the NCAA, hopefully
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  Speaker 6: they recognize we got to continue to adjust this thing.
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  Speaker 6: And I think they're trying to figure out, you know,
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  Speaker 6: they did with the implementation of the the salary cap,
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  Speaker 6: if you will, of what they're supposed to spend, and
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  Speaker 6: they're trying to get a handle on it. But it
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  Speaker 6: doesn't seem like a good trend real hard. I think
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  Speaker 6: this might kick that into gear a little bit because
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  Speaker 6: of the fact that it just isn't a good look.
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  Speaker 6: It brought too much up into everybody that's a college
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  Speaker 6: football fan and has been for any amount of time, like, man.
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  Speaker 1: This is just ugly.
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  Speaker 6: This is just not what it is supposed to be like,
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  Speaker 6: not that it's this isn't what it used to be like. Okay, fine,
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  Speaker 6: it's not going to be what it used to be.
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  Speaker 6: Like if you are if you romanticize about that, well
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  Speaker 6: you might want to get over it. Yeah, you find
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  Speaker 6: another hobby. It's not going to go back to that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: but there is a way in which you can have
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  Speaker 6: kids paid. Uh and and and it also not looked
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  Speaker 6: the way that it feels like it is right now.
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  Speaker 1: This to me was just playing and simple.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, there's a legality thing where he signed something a
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  Speaker 6: contract that it looked like when he announces I'm going
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  Speaker 6: to the transfer portal, everybody's immediately well, didn't you just
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  Speaker 6: sign a cunt? Does that mean nothing? I mean a contract.
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  Speaker 1: I'm actually relieved to know that it means.
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  Speaker 6: And I think that it did boil down to he
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  Speaker 6: he didn't he thought that there was Green or Grass
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  Speaker 6: somewhere else. Two days after signing a contract, he was
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  Speaker 6: ready to jump ship. His attorney or his agent that
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  Speaker 6: is also Jedfish's agent says, all right, dude, well then
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  Speaker 6: you did this without me, you consulting me or anything.
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  Speaker 6: I wouldn't have went that way. So for philosophical differences,
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  Speaker 6: I'm done with you. And then somebody you know, basically
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  Speaker 6: told him you're going to need to get an attorney.
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  Speaker 6: You signed a contract, They're coming after you. They're not
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  Speaker 6: going to let you just.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well, good luck that.
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  Speaker 6: No, do you sign a contract, there's going to be
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  Speaker 6: some sort of repercussions. And what it sounds like to
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  Speaker 6: me is either he or whoever he played for was
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  Speaker 6: going to have to pay back that four million bucks
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  Speaker 6: or something along those lines.
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  Speaker 2: He was going to have to do.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if it was his, Yeah, I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: it is.
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  Speaker 2: And LSU was going to have to take it out
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  Speaker 2: of their twenty million.
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  Speaker 4: Right, And then I think there was going to be
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  Speaker 4: some other fines and stuff that was involved in it.
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  Speaker 4: And LSU apparently was at the finish line with Sam
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  Speaker 4: Levitt from Arizona State anyway, And so I don't even
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  Speaker 4: know if Demand really checked to see if LSU one
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  Speaker 4: hundred percent.
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  Speaker 1: Wanted him that. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: It sounds like somebody told him, man, you don't have
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  Speaker 4: to live for that contract.
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  Speaker 1: Don't you want to play at LSU?
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  Speaker 7: You know?
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  Speaker 1: And he was like, yeah, I do.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I even think that went into his I
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  Speaker 4: think it was thoughtless what he did in the Mia
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  Speaker 4: Hammett aspect of this. I don't think that the kid
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  Speaker 4: is so evil that he wanted to upstate it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think he did it purposely say that. I
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  Speaker 5: don't think he thought about it, which is a problem thoughtlessness.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't give it enough.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you, But I don't think it
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  Speaker 4: was an evil intention. I think it was just a
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  Speaker 4: thoughtlessness And I think the whole process that he went
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  Speaker 4: through was thoughtless. And this is the message that has
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  Speaker 4: to get through to everybody. Hey, you are over eighteen
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  Speaker 4: years old. You're begiving millions of dollars. You can't just
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  Speaker 4: act like a child and think that things like this
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  Speaker 4: don't mean anything. Because you signed a contract, you need
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  Speaker 4: to give it thought. You need to start acting like
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  Speaker 4: an adult. If you're going to play in an adult world,
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  Speaker 4: you don't want to be student athletes anymore. You want
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  Speaker 4: to be professional athletes. Start acting like a professional. And
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  Speaker 4: this was an example, this was the most glaring example
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  Speaker 4: we've seen yet of somebody that just was like, that
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  Speaker 4: looks better, I want it now, as opposed to acting
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  Speaker 4: like a professional. And he got caught in the crosshairs
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  Speaker 4: of it and now has to come back with hat
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  Speaker 4: in hand and beg for apologies from pretty much everybody
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  Speaker 4: that wears purple.
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  Speaker 5: Yep, I think, I mean, I think I will say yes.
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  Speaker 5: The one positive is seeing that. Okay, so the contract
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  Speaker 5: did mean something. So the Big ten and Washington were
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  Speaker 5: both going after him, and they were teamed up together.
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  Speaker 2: And that's a daunting thing to face. I think. The
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  Speaker 2: thing where I'm just.
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  Speaker 5: Still so bothered is you had all these you consulted
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  Speaker 5: your agent, you you know, consulted your family, you consulted
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  Speaker 5: your coaches, whatever, before you signed this contract with Washington.
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  Speaker 5: Then someone gets in your ear and rather than go
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  Speaker 5: consult those same people you talk to about this Washington contract,
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  Speaker 5: you just went out on your own with your family,
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  Speaker 5: thoughtless yeah, and you were like, yeah, this is a
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  Speaker 5: this is yeah, this is a better thing for me.
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  Speaker 8: To do.
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  Speaker 5: It's like if you would have just had one conversation
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  Speaker 5: with your agent, he would have looked at the contract
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  Speaker 5: and said, bro, you can't do this, Like this isn't
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  Speaker 5: gonna work for you if you leave this, this is
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  Speaker 5: what's going to happen. And a lot of people are saying, well,
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  Speaker 5: his agent represents Jedfish. His agent is going to do
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  Speaker 5: what's best for his all of his clients at the
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  Speaker 5: time that he's dealing with that client. He's not gonna
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  Speaker 5: go tell Jedfish demon wants to leave. He's going to
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  Speaker 5: He's going to advise him on in the best possible
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  Speaker 5: situation for it.
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  Speaker 1: Again, be a professional, be an adult, Like you didn't.
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  Speaker 4: Have to take Jed Fish's agent, But if he is
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  Speaker 4: going to be your agent, yeah, look, that's your first call.
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  Speaker 4: It's not to your uncle Kevin. It's to your agent
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  Speaker 4: to say, hey, is there any way I can get
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  Speaker 4: out of this because Lane's been calling me on the
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  Speaker 4: side and I might have more money to make. And
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  Speaker 4: then the agent says.
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  Speaker 2: No, yeah, no, you're in No what do you think
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  Speaker 2: we just did five days ago?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And so he's coming back and the university is
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  Speaker 4: welcoming back whether or not the Husky community is ready
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  Speaker 4: to welcome him back. I mean, it doesn't sound like it.
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  Speaker 4: Bucky brought this up a little bit earlier.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I do believe.
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  Speaker 4: If he comes back during the regular season, he's probably
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  Speaker 4: gonna get booed in the first game, first time he
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  Speaker 4: takes the field, and maybe for a little while, and
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if he'll be able to handle it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know the kids.
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  Speaker 2: If he screws up, he'll get bood for sure.
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  Speaker 4: If he has success, he's going to forgive and forget.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I remember when Frank Clark got drafted, how
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  Speaker 4: many people said I'm never rooting for the Seahawks again.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not sure one person lived up to that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: to that vow.
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  Speaker 4: All right, So if he starts having success and he
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  Speaker 4: starts to roll and he looks heismany, I think people
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  Speaker 4: will certainly put it in the rear view mirror if
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  Speaker 4: he struggles at all. I mean, they're going to be
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  Speaker 4: quick to criticize him, and they're going to criticize him
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  Speaker 4: all off season. And I'm sure a lot of people
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  Speaker 4: mean it when they say it. I don't want to
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  Speaker 4: root for him, and I'm sure that that will last
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  Speaker 4: all the way through the offseason and probably into the
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  Speaker 4: regular season. But I do believe you'll get over it
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  Speaker 4: once the season gets underway, and especially if he has success.
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  Speaker 4: But if he starts to struggle whatsoever, I think they'll
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  Speaker 4: be quick to jeer him and he's going to have
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  Speaker 4: to live with that. Jed Fish accepting him back, Pat
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  Speaker 4: Schuhn accepting him back. They're all going to have to
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  Speaker 4: live with that, because I guarantee you the trust in
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  Speaker 4: demand Williams Junior has been completely lost.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, not just by the.
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  Speaker 1: Fan base, by teammates.
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  Speaker 4: Like right now, there is no way to trust that
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  Speaker 4: young man to be a leader for your team, and
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  Speaker 4: he has to. He's the face of the franchise, if
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  Speaker 4: you will, so he has to be in that role.
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  Speaker 4: He's the quarterback, he's your best player. I mean, he
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  Speaker 4: has to fulfill that role. And it is really hard
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  Speaker 4: in the sports world, Bucky, I'm sure you can attest
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  Speaker 4: to this.
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  Speaker 1: To be the leader of men when no one trusts you,
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  Speaker 1: it is. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I mean I think in today's day and age, I
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  Speaker 6: think it's there's more guys in a locker room or
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  Speaker 6: clubhouse that will just defer to I ain't going to
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  Speaker 6: get riled up about somebody else doing something to get
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  Speaker 6: their bag right saying it like that. But I think
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  Speaker 6: there's more people now that in a locker room they're dead.
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  Speaker 6: Now there's still going to be a remainder or maybe
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  Speaker 6: a significant chunk. It's like you flat out we're ready
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  Speaker 6: to just bail on us. All of the viehanment thing
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  Speaker 6: side from it, like that's that's a big enough one
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  Speaker 6: where some people that say they're not going to cheer
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  Speaker 6: for him it's a righteous thing where they're saying, no,
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  Speaker 6: that is gross. I mean, just his wife came out
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  Speaker 6: and said that is disgusting to do during that point
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  Speaker 6: in time. Some people are never going to fully forgiven
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  Speaker 6: for that. And then there's two things can be true
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  Speaker 6: at the same time. You can be like I don't
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: like him as a person and still be cheering for
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: him to throw a touchdown for your team. I think
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: that there's I think it's a real slippery slope. I
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: think people should be careful stepping up on a soapbox
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: and being real self righteous about certain things. This is
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: one that you can not like it and it can
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: leave a bad taste in your mouth and yet you
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: either put your kind of put your money where your
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: mouth is and just flat out you know, I'm not
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: going to cheer for him. I'm going to stick to
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: that and regardless of how it is, or you say, Okay,
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: he he made really poor choices, really really bad timing,
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: and yet he still he's back with my team, and
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: I'm going to basically try to support him. I don't
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: know for sure how it's gonna work. I am certain
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: that the scrutiny is going to be higher than it
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: once was, and yet I am also certain that there's
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: a giant chunk of people that, like I said, the
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: first time he scrambles for a first down and touchdown
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: and leads a team to a win, they're gonna be like, well,
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: I'm glad he's back, even though he burnt the bridge
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: or set the bridge on fire.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: At least. Yeah.
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: I think it's interesting because obviously he's young. He made
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: a mistake, and I can recognize that, like, yes, you
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: made poor choices, and you and your family made those
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: choices together, so it's not like you just did it
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: on your own.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: You were talking to your family.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: They are supposed to be the adults in the room
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: and they came up with you, you know, with this
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: plan with you to do what you guys did. So
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: I can understand in that aspect you maybe were listening
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: to the not the wrong people because it's your family,
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: but you weren't consulting the people you should have been
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: consulting about the situation, which is what I said earlier.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: And that's where it's like what Bucky said, it does
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: leave a bad taste in my mouth.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go out there and boo him. Well,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: and I won't be at the games, but I'm not
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: gonna go out there.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: You already made that, You're already drawing that line.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going to go out there and boo him.
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: I'm just I don't know, it's treading lightly, I guess
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: moving forward, because, yeah, the trust is gone. If you're
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: if you would do this to your teammates who had
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: no idea you were leaving, your coaches who had no
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: idea you were leaving, what kind of a teammate are you?
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Is my question?
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean he couldn't have come off more selfish. Yeah,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, I.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: Mean, even the even the original statement. I know this
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: is going to anger people or something I'm paraphrasing, but
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: I got to do what's best for me. Yeah, I
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: mean in a team sport, and you that's your that's
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: your approach.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Is that I only am concerned with what's best for me. Yeah.
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: And he didn't put any sort of apology to the
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: fans in his statement coming back either.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well no.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: So anyway, obviously, crazy week for Husky football. I don't
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: know if they've had a crazier week than what they
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: had this week over there on Montlake. And this is
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: new territory for all of us. I mean, this is
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: all still new. This is new for players. You know,
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: they obviously don't know all the rules, and and I
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: think Fish and Chun and everybody got blindsided by it,
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: and so they spent a week scrambling. Hell, they were
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: bringing in quarterbacks to possibly replace him, So obviously they
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: didn't know for sure.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: The rules and how this thing was going to play out.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: But all ends up with DeMont Williams coming back to
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: Washington to play for the Huskies. We'll certainly be talking
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: about it throughout our show today. Let's find out what's
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: on tap.
• 19:35
  Speaker 9: What's on TEP, what's on tech?
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: All right, Camp Cleveland's going to join us at eight thirty.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: I think he's got an opinion, and Hugh Millen will
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: be with us at nine o'clock today for x'es and
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: o's and normally that is set aside for Seahawks football,
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: but I think the former U dub quarterback Hugh Millan
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: wants to talk about the current U Dub quarterback DeMont
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: Williams junior, so x's and o's is going to land
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: probably on that topic at nine o'clock today. College football
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: playoff last night, terrific game, terrific, high scoring fourth quarter.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: It was like it was like a tale of two
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: different halves. The defense was sort of dominating in the
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: first half and then in the fourth quarter of the
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: offense took over. And yet it was even the entire way.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, it was a struggle. When the offense for
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Miami got clicking, so did the offense for ole Miss
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: and so it ended up being a fantastic game with
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: a fantastic finish, actually a near fastash to finish because
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: the actual finish that was PI.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't like.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: The sighting a game by an officials call, but the
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: officials had an out because this is not a sport.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: This is not the NFL. You don't get the ball
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: at to one. They were only going to get the
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: ball to the fifteen, so they would have still had
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: to make another play in order to win it. And
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: that see to me like a controversial call. I want
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: them to swallow the whistle if it's gonna determine the game,
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: but that wouldn't have determined the game. They would have
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: you would have given them their one last crack at
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: the fifth. That was a clear, no doubt about it PI.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: I don't care what they said on ESPN to protect
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: the product because they didn't want that controversy ending.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: But that was a clear PI.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: I could it writeen my notes for Gene if.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that goes to Gene Sterotur on Tuesday. But I
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: don't have a problem with the Miami advancing. I think
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: that it was a terrific game, and I think Miami's
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: very worthy. Thirty one to twenty seven the final score
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: the Hurricanes over ole miss last night. We'll find some
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: time to talk about that tonight. Oregon versus Indiana at
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: four point thirty.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: The winner will play.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: Miami in the National Championship Game on January nineteenth. Of course,
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: it's NFL wild Card weekend, so we'll spend quite a
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: bit of time on that. Mike Holmgren's gonna join us
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: today at nine to thirty. Seahawks are on bye. Greg
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: Bell will give us the latest at seven five and today, big, big,
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: big headline to today's show. Mike McDonald joins us today
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: at eight o'clock on Chuck and Buck. That's right, the
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: head coach of the Seahawks here on their bye week,
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: will be with us this morning at eight o'clock, So
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: plan your morning accordingly. Crack And lost in overtime to
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: Minnesota last night, but they still got a point, which
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: was an accomplishment because they were trailing two to nothing
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: in that game. College basketball dub versus Ohio State.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: At home Sunday.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: Coog's will take on Saint Mary's tomorrow at two o'clock.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: And in hot Stove, the Mariners dealt with arbitration Day yesterday.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: They came to terms with everybody that was arbitration eligible,
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: with one exception, Bryce Miller. Apparently they're about five hundred
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: thousand dollars apart. Nothing to worry about. It's part of
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: the process. But nonetheless they pretty much figured out their
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: payroll and what they have to spend for the rest
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: of the offseason, and hopefully we'll have some time to
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: talk about it later on in the show coming.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Up next though.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: Seahawks on by week Are they peaking at the right time?
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• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Heart's never really.
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: Been in it, but yeah, well he could give the
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: same keys to Denver winning this weekend that he could
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: for the Sea Huck.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: They do apply this week.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they actually could be a real into it this week.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: Actually, it kind of applies all around, yes, because great
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: defense and is the quarterback going?
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly which quarterback's going to show up?
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: Pretty much the same portfolio there. It's Chuck, Buck and
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: Ashley with you in every Friday at this time. We
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: do no cliche keys to victory for the upcoming Seahawks game,
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: and so I'll get us started here this week. I
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: usually go last, but no cliche keys to victory for
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: the Seahawks this week. Here's what hasked to happen at
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: some point this weekend. Mike McDonald's got to get up
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: and have a nice breakfast.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, Oh yeah, that's it.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's probably for us to advance.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he just has to eat and wake up and
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: be alive and that's all that they need is for
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: that to occur. And uh and we're will move on
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: to the next round because we are on by this week.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: So yeah, that's that's that's my key. Typically the team
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: stays alive the week.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: It's a good key, it's an important key.
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: Typically we use this time, you know, during keys or
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: you know, keys to victory. We don't really poopoo on
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: somebody else's key, right, it's your opinion on it.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just gonna say if he doesn't.
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: Eat, yeah, even if he doesn't wake up, they still advance.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: That's true, you know what I mean. So I don't
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: think that's the key.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: I think the key is avoid of I don't know, catastrophe,
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: world war, World War.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, I stand corrected a more important key, yeah, yeah,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Just I don't want you to go just down into
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: the trenches and whatnot. You know what I mean.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: If we enter into world war, we might determine at
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: that very moment that we sports aren't important.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: We won't advance and never get to know it be.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: A real crappy time or into a world war.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna you know what, You're right, and I'm
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: gonna correct my alien invasion as long as we're not
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: invaded by.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: That's what mine was.
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: Okay, that's really I was gonna be like, as long
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: as as long as a giant spaceship, as long as
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: the space Needle doesn't come off of the top fly
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: over looming Field or renting it could great beam up
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: the entire team storyline right there.
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: Were allowing the space Needle to just hang out looking
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: like a spaceship for a long time.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Bucky, how do we know it's not?
• 25:45
  Speaker 10: Really?
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I think it is. Did you see it in the
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: fog like New Year's Eve? Yeah? That really? Sure it
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: is a spaceship. That's a better storyline than Sharknado and
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: that movie got made.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all that time, aliens have been living in and
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: actually operating the space need just waiting for the right time,
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: and it.
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: Spins now, which just gives them a three hundred and
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: sixty degree view without having to leave their alien seats.
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: As long as this isn't the moment, as long as
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: this isn't our independence day over the weekend, then we're
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: going to.
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: Advance and I think that there is a chance are
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's like if it does feel like, right now,
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: what's next?
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: What is the next storyline that's going to hit around here?
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: I mean, Mariners did their thing, Seahawks just went on
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: a great run to get this number one seed that
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: we're talking about, the demon Williams story, Like, is it
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: that far fetched to thinking aliens are gonna come down? Yeah,
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: just if you do, don't don't beam up the Seahawks. Right,
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: there's plenty of people here in Seattle you can take
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: new experiments on. Don't take the Seahawks. They earned a buye.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: You know, you did bring up the demand Williams thing.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: I would say.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: My key would be to have the whole team tran
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: not decide that they're going to go play for another team.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if the Seahawks team enters the transfer portal this week,
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: I do believe they are all signed to Ironclad.
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: Coll We also know doesn't mean a lot at the
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: very takes several days.
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: I heard somebody saw Sam Darnold overlooked his phone and
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: it said Lane Kiffen was calling him, right, yeah, that guy.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: At Worm Yeah, all right, Well, I think that's good
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: as long as alien invasion doesn't happen as long as
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: we all stay alive as.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: A as an organization.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: As a species, and as long as if we're alive,
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: all of our players don't get recruited to LSU by
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: Lane Kiffin, Yeah, we're.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Moving to the division. I have a lot of.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: A lot of confidence, all right, Greg Bell Next, plus
• 27:53
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• 27:56
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• 27:57
  Speaker 6: F M less side Steven sent back to Don but
• 28:04
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• 28:16
  Speaker 6: the play, bade hold the rebound.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: We're tied to two ten fifty three left.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Of the third significant because they were down to nothing
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: and rallied to tie it at two goals a piece,
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: forced overtime, at least earned a point on an off night.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: They came out flat.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: The Minnesota Wild not exactly having a great season this year.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: You end up losing in overtime three to two the
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: final score, but by hockey rules, you did earn a
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: point in last night's game on a night you weren't
• 28:50
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• 28:51
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• 29:09
  Speaker 4: Good morning, It is a football Friday. Chuck Powell, Bucky Jacobson,
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: and Ashley Ryan with you. We have a whole slew
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: of experts coming your way today to talk about these
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: two monster stories that we're dealing with on a football Friday,
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: the Demond Williams situation. Cam Cleveland will join us at
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: eight thirty. Hughes actually going to discuss Demon at nine
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: o'clock and his exes and O segment which we do
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: every Friday.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Also from the playoff NFL.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: You've got playoffs starting this week and the Seahawks getting
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: ready for the following week. So we'll have Mike McDonald
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: on today at eight o'clock, Mike Homgrin at nine thirty,
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: and Greg Bell's going to join us here in about
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: a minute and a half. So excited to talk to
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: all of those gentlemen. Fine gentlemen, but we will start
• 29:54
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  Speaker 4: If you haven't heard, Demond william has reversed course after
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: speaking with on an independent attorney, or at least it
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: seems this is how the timetable went. He found out
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: he really didn't have a legal leg to stand on
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: and was going to get his pants sued off if
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: he didn't return to Washington. So he reversed course and
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: told Jetfish pat Schun that he wanted to return to Washington,
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: and they accepted him back with open arms.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Now, whether the.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: Fan base is going to do that, that remains to
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: be seen. Doesn't sound like it, certainly not initially. Yeah,
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: but Demon Williams, after a crazy week of trying to
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: leave though under contract, decided, oh, maybe it's better that
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: I go back to Seattle and they have accepted him back.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: We'll talk about that coming up on the show quite
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: a bit. College football playoff Miami won over Ole Missed
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: great game last night, thirty one to twenty seven the
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: final score. So the Hurricanes are dancing to the National
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: championship game on January nineteenth, and it will be played
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: in Miami, by the way, and there's a chance Mario
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: Christobal we'll be facing his old team, the Oregon Ducks
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: in the National Championship Game, but Oregon's going to have
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: to pull the upset tonight against Indiana. The second of
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: the final four college football playoff games will be played
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: this evening at four thirty Hoosiers versus Ducks. NFL wild
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Card Weekend starts tomorrow at one thirty with the Rams
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: and the Panthers. Two games on Saturday, three on Sunday,
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: and there's even one on Monday night that'll be Houston
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: versus Pittsburgh in Pennsylvania. The Seahawks, of course, are on buy,
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: and we celebrate the fact that only alien invasion could
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: keep us from advancing to the second round of the playoffs.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: I feel pretty good about it, Vegas, as odds are
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: pretty low that we're going to be invaded by aliens
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: and our world and universe.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Destroyed ere thing, you know.
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: I ever, you know, can't count out your chickens before
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: they hatch and that whole thing. But yes, I think
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: odds are that the Seahawks advance barring any of those catastrophes.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: College basketball, you doub versus Ohio State Sunday at three o'clock.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: Kogs will play Saint Mary's tomorrow at two o'clock and
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: from Major League Baseball, the Mariners did work out arbitration
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: agreements without having to go to arbitration with every one
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: of their arbitration eligible players, with the exception of Bryce Miller,
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: but they're not that far apart.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: It's part of the process.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: He'll be a Mariner, don't worry about it, and he'll
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: be a Mariner at a promoted break.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: So no, no, where's there on that front.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: We'll try to find some times talk about that later
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: on as well, But right now it's time talk to
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: Greg Bell.
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  Speaker 1: Now with punk Man Nudes, here's Greg Bell with Chuck
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  Speaker 1: and Bud. All right, our Seahawks inside of Greg Bell
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  Speaker 1: joins us here.
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  Speaker 4: Good morning, sir, Good morning, All right, Tom, Well, we
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: have a we've got a bye week here. We got
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  Speaker 4: Mike McDonald by the way, coming up at eight o'clock.
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  Speaker 4: Are you going to be by your radio for that.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll sinch you said, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, come on here, You're not gonna east drop
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  Speaker 1: on our conversation.
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  Speaker 7: Come on bell, Yeah, perhaps?
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  Speaker 8: All right said hello, Hello, Okay, sure, it's been a
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  Speaker 8: couple of days.
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  Speaker 4: Well, thanks for the support, Greg, Okay, all right, Well
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: here we sit on bye week. Here's something that we've
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: been discussing a little bit. We discussed it with Matt Hasselbeck.
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  Speaker 4: I'll ask you the question, are the see you, in
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: your opinion, peaking at the right time.
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  Speaker 8: Yes. Offensively, Their defense has been they're peaking too. I
• 34:10
  Speaker 8: guess you could say but that the Rams lit them
• 34:13
  Speaker 8: up pretty good just three weeks ago. But offensively is
• 34:16
  Speaker 8: where they've caught up, and primarily because of how they're
• 34:19
  Speaker 8: running the ball more consistently and better once seventy one,
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  Speaker 8: one sixty three and one eighty the last three weeks
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  Speaker 8: that has them playing has like mcdonnald wanted them two
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  Speaker 8: way back in April, a heck way back before that
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  Speaker 8: the Winner when they hired Clint Kubiak. So it took
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  Speaker 8: this long for them to play offensively as they want to.
• 34:40
  Speaker 8: They're not whole, and they still have lapses in the
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  Speaker 8: middle of games, and even their defense, as I said,
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  Speaker 8: at times gives up, but not recently. So yeah, you'd
• 34:51
  Speaker 8: want to peak, you'd want to be doing this now
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  Speaker 8: instead of September. And we said that we'd be much
• 34:55
  Speaker 8: better team in January than September, and they definitely are
• 34:58
  Speaker 8: so absolutely agree with that.
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  Speaker 6: On offense, what has happened in order for that run
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  Speaker 6: game to keep going, if that's one of the bigger
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  Speaker 6: turnarounds that you've seen as.
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  Speaker 8: Of late, well some of it, Bucky, is they've gone
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  Speaker 8: more consistently to outside zone. That's of course what Klint
• 35:16
  Speaker 8: Kubiak was known for, that's why they hired him. But
• 35:20
  Speaker 8: they weren't exclusive outside zone for months. They were doing
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  Speaker 8: a mix of things, and the big day a couple
• 35:26
  Speaker 8: of weeks ago from Zach Charbonay was against Carolina was
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  Speaker 8: almost exclusively outside zone game. The game plan does change
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  Speaker 8: week the week, as all NFL teams do, but that
• 35:37
  Speaker 8: game in particular was a heavier outside zone game, A
• 35:41
  Speaker 8: little more outside zone again San Francisco as well. So
• 35:44
  Speaker 8: what I mean by that is that the holes are
• 35:47
  Speaker 8: designed to be further out by the tackle rather than
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  Speaker 8: more in the garden. Center, and it's allowed, especially Jaylensonell,
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  Speaker 8: to use his athleticism to get on the move to
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  Speaker 8: get into second and level guys, and rather than the
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  Speaker 8: point of attack being over the center, it's been out
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  Speaker 8: by the tackles. The curious part of this, of course,
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  Speaker 8: is that their starting left tackle, Charles Cross, hasn't played
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  Speaker 8: the last three weeks when it's been the three best
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  Speaker 8: rushing games of the season. So Josh Jones gets a
• 36:18
  Speaker 8: lot of credit for being what he was for as
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  Speaker 8: a fill in starter. Now Charles Cross comes back, he'll
• 36:23
  Speaker 8: play the first playoff game next week. It'd be interesting
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  Speaker 8: to see if they can continue it with their starting
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  Speaker 8: guy that they just paid seventy five million dollars guaranteed
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  Speaker 8: to as well as they were when the fill in
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  Speaker 8: was in.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting. I'm still a little surprised.
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  Speaker 4: I would think most people would say that the defense
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  Speaker 4: is peaked right now, couldn't be playing better, and that
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: the offense is a concern. Do you then not label
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  Speaker 4: the offense a concern heading into the postseason?
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  Speaker 8: No, I didn't say that if they turn the ball
• 36:51
  Speaker 8: over him still, even though you will go round and
• 36:53
  Speaker 8: round with me about the turnovers in factor MA and
• 36:56
  Speaker 8: you just can't give other teams short fields and the
• 36:59
  Speaker 8: quarterback has turned to over twenty times this season. The
• 37:04
  Speaker 8: defense think they could play better at times. They think
• 37:07
  Speaker 8: that they can give up fewer yards and early downs,
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  Speaker 8: create longer third downs more consistently. Now, coming off the
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  Speaker 8: San Francisco game, I'm not sure you're gonna ask the
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  Speaker 8: Seahawks defense to play any better than that. Ye one
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  Speaker 8: hundred and twenty some yards and three points. I mean,
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  Speaker 8: I don't matter. If you name any team in the
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  Speaker 8: league and you would have been impressed by the defensive performance,
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  Speaker 8: right any team, I mean, the Giants, Cleveland, anybody.
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  Speaker 7: You still would have said, wow, that was a.
• 37:34
  Speaker 8: Great defense on They did it against the team that
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  Speaker 8: had just put forty two up in five hundred yards
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  Speaker 8: on a division champion in Chicago. So peaking in a sense,
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  Speaker 8: will they play better than they did against the forty
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  Speaker 8: nine ers, Probably not. And even if the forty nine
• 37:49
  Speaker 8: ers come in here next week, if it falls that
• 37:51
  Speaker 8: way that they're the lowest remaining seat out of this
• 37:53
  Speaker 8: weekend's games, I can't imagine that Kyle Shanahan and the
• 37:57
  Speaker 8: Niners come up here and score three points and get
• 37:59
  Speaker 8: a high in twenty five yards, So and that's been peak. Okay,
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  Speaker 8: that's what I mean by that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Greg Beller Syoks Insider, is with us.
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  Speaker 4: You can follow him on x at g Bell Seattle
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: and of course complete Seahawks coverage at Thenewstribune dot com,
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: where you finally got to write that article sinking your
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: teeth into what Byron Murphy has meant meant, has meant
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: to this defense.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: So what more did you find diving deeper into it?
• 38:29
  Speaker 8: Well, one is coach causing the best at the world
• 38:32
  Speaker 8: had taken on the double teams. Two where did this
• 38:35
  Speaker 8: come from? So if you didn't read the article, shame
• 38:37
  Speaker 8: on you. We should just stop the conversation and let
• 38:40
  Speaker 8: people read the article. But we'll give the cliff notes
• 38:43
  Speaker 8: version for those who didn't read it. It's at the
• 38:45
  Speaker 8: News Tribute dot com. Any of you have done CrossFit,
• 38:48
  Speaker 8: there's this thing called and I used to it. I'm
• 38:50
  Speaker 8: getting older now I'm not do it as much as
• 38:53
  Speaker 8: they used to. But there's this thing called a kettlebell.
• 38:55
  Speaker 8: Get up where you're on the ground, then you go
• 38:57
  Speaker 8: to one knee and then you still have the kettlebell
• 39:00
  Speaker 8: holding it with a straight arm.
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  Speaker 1: Above your head and.
• 39:03
  Speaker 8: Then you get up from the knee to both your
• 39:05
  Speaker 8: feet while still holding the kettlebell with a locked elbow
• 39:08
  Speaker 8: above your head. That is basically what Byron Murphy is
• 39:12
  Speaker 8: doing to two blockers, to two three hundred pound guys
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  Speaker 8: that are trying to block him at the same time.
• 39:18
  Speaker 8: He drops to one knee immediately when he senses a
• 39:20
  Speaker 8: double team. And as I mentioned yesterday on the ground table,
• 39:24
  Speaker 8: coaches don't like to teach this because there are almost
• 39:27
  Speaker 8: zero guys that have enough strength, enough quickness, and are
• 39:31
  Speaker 8: yetn't have enough leverage because they're not tall enough. They're
• 39:34
  Speaker 8: still short and squad enough where this power can be
• 39:37
  Speaker 8: leveraged to the ground. There are very few guys that
• 39:39
  Speaker 8: have that combination that can get back up off the ground.
• 39:42
  Speaker 8: They end up laying there and two or three hundred
• 39:44
  Speaker 8: pound guys just lay on him, and he's a speed bump.
• 39:47
  Speaker 8: But because Murphy is strong and so quick and barely
• 39:51
  Speaker 8: six feet tall, he has this an ordinary unusual ability
• 39:57
  Speaker 8: to get up off his knee with two or three
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  Speaker 8: hundred pound guys on him, and he splits that block
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  Speaker 8: with his arm. It's an amazing thing to watch. If
• 40:05
  Speaker 8: again I said yesterday. If you can watch away from
• 40:08
  Speaker 8: the ball and just watch ninety one on almost any
• 40:11
  Speaker 8: run play because there are so few guys in the box.
• 40:13
  Speaker 8: For the Seahawks, lightis box. They're the most five and
• 40:17
  Speaker 8: six man defensive back team in the league. Ninety two
• 40:20
  Speaker 8: percent of their snaps are five and six man, which
• 40:22
  Speaker 8: means there are fewer guys that line the scrimmage for
• 40:25
  Speaker 8: the double four offensive line in the block, so everyone
• 40:28
  Speaker 8: gets double d There's somebody on the Seahawks gets double
• 40:30
  Speaker 8: teamed on the defensive line every run play, and it's
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  Speaker 8: usually Byron Murphy because he's in the middle of it.
• 40:35
  Speaker 8: And so to watch this is just kind of amazing,
• 40:39
  Speaker 8: And so I thought, where did this come from? Well?
• 40:42
  Speaker 8: Bo Davis, the University of Texas' defensive line coach who
• 40:46
  Speaker 8: is now the New Orleans Saints defensive line coach. He
• 40:48
  Speaker 8: went to LSU last year and then he went to
• 40:50
  Speaker 8: the Saints in the NFL. He is a longtime legendary
• 40:53
  Speaker 8: of the line coach at the University of Texas. Sarkisian
• 40:55
  Speaker 8: had him and his staff as well. He was there
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  Speaker 8: for about fifteen years. He taught it. If he does
• 41:00
  Speaker 8: as a freshman twenty twenty one, and he said he had.
• 41:05
  Speaker 8: Murphy said that that Bo Davis had him on that
• 41:07
  Speaker 8: sled every damn day working on this move in particular,
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  Speaker 8: and so he's become really skilled at it because he's
• 41:15
  Speaker 8: worked on it so much that they you can't double
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  Speaker 8: team him, and that's so unusual. So a running back
• 41:23
  Speaker 8: runs into the line and he s thinks, well, this
• 41:24
  Speaker 8: is where the double team is. So there's gonna be
• 41:26
  Speaker 8: an open lane here, and ninety one for Seattle sitting
• 41:29
  Speaker 8: right in the middle of that double team, standing on
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  Speaker 8: two feet off and waiting for him. So then he's
• 41:34
  Speaker 8: got to bounce it out. The running back does, and
• 41:36
  Speaker 8: he bounces it out into Leonard Williams of DeMarcus Lawrence,
• 41:39
  Speaker 8: who get all the tackles and accolades. Yet the guy
• 41:42
  Speaker 8: who blew up the play is the guy who did
• 41:43
  Speaker 8: the kettle bill get up move on two to three
• 41:46
  Speaker 8: hundred pound line. And that's Byron Murphy. That's the unsung nature.
• 41:50
  Speaker 8: You could argue he's the MVP of the run defense,
• 41:52
  Speaker 8: which led the league and yards allowed per carry three
• 41:55
  Speaker 8: point seven. Jay.
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: By the way, I watched the video yesterday of a
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: Turkish guy doing get up Yeah two.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, he did it with two hundred and.
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  Speaker 6: Fifty five pounds basically on Yeah, that's freaky strong.
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  Speaker 1: Might want to sign him with I.
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  Speaker 8: Think it was forty five or fifty five pounds, but
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  Speaker 8: I did.
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  Speaker 1: Fifty Yeah, yeah, pretty impressive.
• 42:17
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that guy could probably split a double team too.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm wondering. You know, we're talking about this defense,
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: how great it's been playing. I mean, it possibly could
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: play well enough that you could even overcome a turnover
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: or a maybe less than stellar performance by the offense.
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: I'm I'm curious, just your perspective is from covering this
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: team and been doing this for a while, is there
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: is there things about this defense that are better than
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: things you saw in the Legion of Boom days.
• 42:46
  Speaker 8: Yes, and his name is Nick. Even Worry the Legion
• 42:51
  Speaker 8: of Boom and Pete Carroll didn't have an Emon Worry
• 42:54
  Speaker 8: that could move like a chess piece around. And we
• 42:56
  Speaker 8: mentioned this many times, and those that are newer to
• 42:58
  Speaker 8: the Seahawks fandom might not realize he Carroll did the
• 43:03
  Speaker 8: opposite of Mike McDonald. McDonald changes by the snap. He
• 43:07
  Speaker 8: doesn't know where EMN w and people don't know where
• 43:09
  Speaker 8: EMN Worry or Witherspoon are going to be from snap
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  Speaker 8: to snap. He stays mostly in sub packages.
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  Speaker 7: Carol did the opposite.
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  Speaker 8: Carol was in four to three cover three. This is
• 43:19
  Speaker 8: what we're staying in. Our Jimmies and Joes are better
• 43:21
  Speaker 8: than your ex as and O's. So they're completely opposite
• 43:25
  Speaker 8: in scheme and approach, and nick emun worry is what
• 43:29
  Speaker 8: makes them a bit able to change by the snap.
• 43:32
  Speaker 8: I mean, here's a guy again who's been a deep
• 43:35
  Speaker 8: post safety, a slots at corner, an outside linebacker, an
• 43:39
  Speaker 8: inside linebacker next to Ernest Jones, the only off ball
• 43:42
  Speaker 8: linebackers in the field at times, a defensive end, outside linebacker,
• 43:48
  Speaker 8: edge rusher. That's what all that he's done, and so
• 43:51
  Speaker 8: it creates the NFL is a chess match. The players
• 43:56
  Speaker 8: end up, of course doing it for the athleticism of
• 43:58
  Speaker 8: actually enacting it. But there's six days between games, so
• 44:02
  Speaker 8: there's a lot of time for these coaches that get
• 44:04
  Speaker 8: paid millions of dollars to plot things. And Emo Warrior
• 44:08
  Speaker 8: allows the Seahawks to do all kinds of things to change,
• 44:12
  Speaker 8: like amba defense by the week. They can change their looks,
• 44:16
  Speaker 8: they can change their approach to personality and so an
• 44:19
  Speaker 8: offensive coordinator. They want to have a beat on what
• 44:21
  Speaker 8: McDonald wants to do from week to week. It's really
• 44:24
  Speaker 8: flumming Shanahan and Leser McVeigh. The last couple of times
• 44:27
  Speaker 8: they played, the Legion to Boom was just so good
• 44:31
  Speaker 8: with their players. Are just so good that the scheme
• 44:33
  Speaker 8: was relatively simple and definitely static and the same so
• 44:37
  Speaker 8: the multiplicity and the ability to confuse and confound offenses.
• 44:42
  Speaker 8: The Seahawks are better at that now than they were
• 44:44
  Speaker 8: under the Legion Boom. They just don't have as good
• 44:46
  Speaker 8: as players. The biggest thing that the Seahawks are up front.
• 44:50
  Speaker 8: I think they're better with their starters than the Legion
• 44:52
  Speaker 8: of Boom teams. They're just not as deep on the
• 44:54
  Speaker 8: defensive line. I've mentioned this one of the great things
• 44:58
  Speaker 8: about the Seattle Legion of Boom defense. They had ten
• 45:00
  Speaker 8: or eleven defensive lineman that they would play in the
• 45:03
  Speaker 8: first half of a first quarter that would rotate in
• 45:06
  Speaker 8: like hockey line shifts the whole game, while the offense
• 45:09
  Speaker 8: would find the same five offensive linemen play and by
• 45:12
  Speaker 8: the fourth quarter of those offensive linemen were smoked and
• 45:15
  Speaker 8: the Seahawks pass rush was getting into quarterbacks especially when
• 45:18
  Speaker 8: they had the lead as often as those teams did,
• 45:21
  Speaker 8: and they closed out games because they were just fresher
• 45:23
  Speaker 8: and better than the offensive lineman. The Seahawks don't have
• 45:26
  Speaker 8: that depth. And it's really hard in this league, just
• 45:29
  Speaker 8: the contracts the way they are and the parody and
• 45:32
  Speaker 8: the free agency rules to keep that quality of a
• 45:35
  Speaker 8: depth for that long of a time, and they don't.
• 45:38
  Speaker 8: They have the frontline guys that are great, and then
• 45:41
  Speaker 8: it drops off pretty substantially after that.
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: All right, last thing, is this dark side nickname catching on?
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: Who came up with it? And does that make Mike
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: McDonald darth Mike?
• 45:53
  Speaker 8: I don't know that it's catching on a lot outside
• 45:56
  Speaker 8: the building. You certainly don't hear it as much as
• 45:58
  Speaker 8: Leeds in the boom. Leonard Williams said, he and Ernest
• 46:02
  Speaker 8: Jones and Jared Reed and DeMarcus Florence were talking in
• 46:05
  Speaker 8: the spring into the summer about they need a nickname,
• 46:08
  Speaker 8: and they this veterans sort of came up with this.
• 46:11
  Speaker 8: But you don't hear McDonald talking about it much. He
• 46:14
  Speaker 8: leaves that for the players, And honestly, on the outside,
• 46:18
  Speaker 8: I've written it and reported and written my stories a
• 46:21
  Speaker 8: few times and people are just like, huh what, Okay,
• 46:23
  Speaker 8: they're going to go with dark side. You have to
• 46:26
  Speaker 8: be pretty hardcore Seahawks fan, I think to know that
• 46:28
  Speaker 8: where the average person knew the Legion of Boom for
• 46:31
  Speaker 8: as good as they were. But the results speaks themselves
• 46:33
  Speaker 8: right there. The number one scoring defensive leagues, number one
• 46:35
  Speaker 8: against the yards against Kerry, one of the best sack
• 46:38
  Speaker 8: teams in the league. The results say that probably do
• 46:42
  Speaker 8: deserve a nickname, but it's just not touching.
• 46:44
  Speaker 7: On his way. Yeah.
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: They just storm trooped all over the forty nine ers
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: the last time, so sure did Yeah.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well, thank you sir.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: Enjoy your weekend off and we will talk to you
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: on Monday.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll still talk to you on Monday. Yeah.
• 47:00
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll still be here. Okay, I will listen to
• 47:03
  Speaker 8: coach Mike McDonalds since she got me up. Now, okay,
• 47:05
  Speaker 8: I'm a week so probably.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Some great We're gonna ask some great questions. Yeah, probably
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: the best that he's been. Yeah, I'm sure you all
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: your along. Sure he's looking forward to it, I know
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: more than he normally does. Talking to the media. We've
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: heard that through the great by Yeah.
• 47:22
  Speaker 8: Yes, he's heading off to a three day week and
• 47:24
  Speaker 8: I'm sure he'd rather spend more time with the media
• 47:26
  Speaker 8: and with you guys.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, nailed it.
• 47:31
  Speaker 7: Greg.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Hello, Well, well well we'll see, we'll see. We'll say
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: if your name is.
• 47:36
  Speaker 8: Let's please remember to my Williams is nineteen years old
• 47:38
  Speaker 8: when he comes.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Back to them.
• 47:41
  Speaker 8: Thank you.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right.
• 47:42
  Speaker 8: I know we pay him like an adult, but that's
• 47:44
  Speaker 8: we had another problem with college football. We pay him
• 47:47
  Speaker 8: like he's Tom Brady and he's been to the Sun
• 47:48
  Speaker 8: Bowl in the LA Bowl and he's nineteen.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Uh huh.
• 47:51
  Speaker 7: What a warped society.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Have a great weekend, all right, Greg, thank you.
• 47:56
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  Speaker 1: Of your Seattle Seahawks. But he won't do it for
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: a while.
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: We've earned that by Mike McDonald now joins us right
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  Speaker 4: here on Chuck and buckod morning.
• 48:33
  Speaker 9: Coach, Good morning guys, guys riat to be on here.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Well, thanks for being with us. We appreciate it.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm curious did you allow I was going
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: to say congratulations, but I thought maybe Mike McDonald will
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: tell me we haven't won anything yet. So how much
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: did you allow yourself your team to celebrate a little
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: bit the accomplishment of the regular season before diving into,
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: obviously the meat and potatoes of a playoff run.
• 48:59
  Speaker 9: Yeah, well, yeah, it's uh, you definitely want to You
• 49:01
  Speaker 9: definitely want to enjoy and and celebrate the wins, right,
• 49:05
  Speaker 9: I mean we talk, if we talk stacking wins and
• 49:08
  Speaker 9: you never celebrate anything, that'd be kind of a miserable existence.
• 49:11
  Speaker 9: So you know, you know, we're having the game on
• 49:15
  Speaker 9: Saturday was great because it it let us have Sunday
• 49:18
  Speaker 9: to kind of recalibrate and put a plan together for
• 49:20
  Speaker 9: the week too. So, uh, you know, we had Sunday
• 49:23
  Speaker 9: off and then we came in Monday and uh really
• 49:26
  Speaker 9: started kind of executing our bye week plan and off
• 49:28
  Speaker 9: we went. So but it's it's been great, Mike.
• 49:31
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 49:31
  Speaker 6: When you were, you know, a younger coach and maybe
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: had the aspirations of one day being a head coach,
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: did you ever formulate what your game plan would be
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: when you ended up getting that that seed in the
• 49:44
  Speaker 6: by and how you were going to go about that
• 49:46
  Speaker 6: and what type of things does that entail?
• 49:48
  Speaker 7: Yes?
• 49:48
  Speaker 9: Uh, No, the short end of that is no, you know,
• 49:52
  Speaker 9: like let it's it's hard for me to look ahead,
• 49:56
  Speaker 9: and especially you know the way that the end of
• 49:59
  Speaker 9: this eason kind of shook out. We knew it was
• 50:01
  Speaker 9: a possibility. It's obviously a goal of ours to be
• 50:04
  Speaker 9: in that position. But Leslie Leslie Frasier was great kind
• 50:08
  Speaker 9: of putting together some thoughts on the front end. Having
• 50:11
  Speaker 9: that extra day was good. We had an idea of
• 50:12
  Speaker 9: how we wanted to handle it, uh, and then you know,
• 50:15
  Speaker 9: we we we we asked for some advites and for
• 50:17
  Speaker 9: some other like veteran coaches around the league that have
• 50:19
  Speaker 9: been in this position too, and we we didn't necessarily
• 50:22
  Speaker 9: adhere to what they said, but it was just it
• 50:23
  Speaker 9: was good to hear you know, some other some other
• 50:28
  Speaker 9: you know, ways of doing it and and really to
• 50:30
  Speaker 9: cross check on on what we thought was the best
• 50:32
  Speaker 9: for our team. And then and then ultimately as we
• 50:35
  Speaker 9: figured out where we wanted to go with it and
• 50:37
  Speaker 9: and how we wanted to plan it out, just running
• 50:39
  Speaker 9: it by our leadership group and making sure that you know,
• 50:42
  Speaker 9: they were on the same page as what we're trying
• 50:44
  Speaker 9: to get done. And it ended up working up uh
• 50:46
  Speaker 9: pretty well, I thought, So we're not out of it yet.
• 50:49
  Speaker 9: And then then this is really the guys are gonna
• 50:50
  Speaker 9: have to break over the next few days so we
• 50:53
  Speaker 9: can come into Monday fresh and ready to go.
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: How do you approach prepping going forward? I mean, I
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: know some coaches just start diving in. I know, we're
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: we we don't know who we're playing yet, but let's
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: just study them both. Or do you want to wait
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: till after Saturday night? Uh and just focus on uh,
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: start your focus on that one team once you know
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: who it is.
• 51:14
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Thistioning.
• 51:15
  Speaker 9: I think all of our coaches are are handling it
• 51:17
  Speaker 9: in their own way. Me personally, I'm a you know,
• 51:21
  Speaker 9: I need a deadline. You know, I got to know
• 51:23
  Speaker 9: what I have to have it done right now. There's
• 51:24
  Speaker 9: no deadline, so it's hard for me to act the urgency,
• 51:27
  Speaker 9: but it is It is good to, you know, have
• 51:29
  Speaker 9: some time to buzz games and get familiar with especially
• 51:34
  Speaker 9: the Packers, you know, we haven't seen them all year,
• 51:36
  Speaker 9: and then and then really you're trying to get brushed
• 51:38
  Speaker 9: up on these other three teams that we could possibly play.
• 51:41
  Speaker 9: And and there's also a component of, uh of really
• 51:45
  Speaker 9: feeling about how how we've been attacked and kind of
• 51:48
  Speaker 9: working on our stuff as well the last couple of
• 51:50
  Speaker 9: days and making sure we're sharp as we go in
• 51:52
  Speaker 9: into the kind of the game planning phase.
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: Well, as long as we're talking about coaching, Clint Kubiak
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: obviously supporting him him and his pursuits to possibly become
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: a head coach himself versus his responsibilities to this team.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: How are you handling that? How are you.
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: Making sure he handles his business as your offensive coordinator.
• 52:14
  Speaker 9: Well, one thing I really respect about Clint was as
• 52:16
  Speaker 9: his process started, the team is really, you know, the
• 52:20
  Speaker 9: absolute priority in his mind, and he made that very
• 52:23
  Speaker 9: clear and his actions back that up too, And so
• 52:26
  Speaker 9: I really feel like it's more my responsibility to give
• 52:29
  Speaker 9: him the kind of hey, like the great of the team, like, look,
• 52:33
  Speaker 9: we trust you handling your responsibilities.
• 52:35
  Speaker 7: This week.
• 52:35
  Speaker 9: You know, we're gonna have two days off as coaches
• 52:38
  Speaker 9: here on Friday and Saturday, and you could take advantage
• 52:40
  Speaker 9: of that time to interview with the teams that are
• 52:43
  Speaker 9: interested in with you, and then we'll go from there.
• 52:45
  Speaker 9: So he's been he's been a great partner, and obviously
• 52:48
  Speaker 9: he's done great things for our team and our offense,
• 52:50
  Speaker 9: and we expect that going forward and wishing the best
• 52:54
  Speaker 9: in the process. But you know, when it's a Seahawk time,
• 52:56
  Speaker 9: he's been, he's been right on it. And uh and
• 52:59
  Speaker 9: I know he's looking forward to really just kind of
• 53:01
  Speaker 9: get it back into a kind of a one track
• 53:03
  Speaker 9: mind here once these interviews are done Unday.
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: Well, one last thing on the coaching front, how surprised
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: were you? How weird does it feel that your old boss,
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: John Harbaugh is not the head coach of the Ravens anymore.
• 53:17
  Speaker 9: It's it's tough, you know, it's I love John Harbaugh
• 53:22
  Speaker 9: and and he's a he's a he's a mentor, he's
• 53:25
  Speaker 9: a lifelong friend. He's got a phenomenal family. I know Steph's,
• 53:30
  Speaker 9: you know, it's close with Ingrid and and Alison. It's
• 53:33
  Speaker 9: just like a superhuman. She's just the best. And so
• 53:36
  Speaker 9: you know, obviously they're really close to us, so any anything,
• 53:39
  Speaker 9: it's so it's a little it's a little bit of
• 53:41
  Speaker 9: a twilight zone, you know, just like John Harbaugh in
• 53:44
  Speaker 9: my mind is the Baltimore Ravens, you know, like it's
• 53:48
  Speaker 9: anonymous with one another. So it's hard to wrap your
• 53:51
  Speaker 9: head around. But I think if you if you try
• 53:53
  Speaker 9: to stay optimistic with it, I think, uh, I think
• 53:56
  Speaker 9: John's gonna have an opportunity to have a fresh start
• 53:58
  Speaker 9: and and he's Paul Fame coach and he's gonna have
• 54:01
  Speaker 9: you know, wherever he goes, are gonna win. And I'm
• 54:04
  Speaker 9: looking forward him having that opportunity, you know, uh as
• 54:08
  Speaker 9: a fresh start as well. So some mixed emotions.
• 54:11
  Speaker 6: Mike, coming head to the defense means that you are
• 54:13
  Speaker 6: the defensive genius that you know that that you are,
• 54:17
  Speaker 6: and I mean we like on this show, just in
• 54:20
  Speaker 6: case you forgot, I mean, the the idea. We've talked
• 54:24
  Speaker 6: a lot this week already about you know, the defense
• 54:28
  Speaker 6: and how well they're playing and some of our analysts
• 54:31
  Speaker 6: have even dove into the your front, you know, the
• 54:34
  Speaker 6: Leonard Williams and d law and Murphy, the way he's
• 54:37
  Speaker 6: playing Jared Reid, the way in which it looks like
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: you're you feel comfortable being able to get some pressure
• 54:43
  Speaker 6: and stop the run even with some shell you know,
• 54:46
  Speaker 6: coverage looking like on the back end. Is that is
• 54:48
  Speaker 6: that by plan or is that just those big dudes
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: just uh, you know, excel in the way that they are.
• 54:54
  Speaker 9: I think I think it's both. I think it's it's
• 54:59
  Speaker 9: if you have to be able to win on early downs,
• 55:01
  Speaker 9: you know, because in order to apply pressure on offenses,
• 55:05
  Speaker 9: you have to be able to shrink their menu and
• 55:08
  Speaker 9: uh and you know, make the quarterback operate and try
• 55:11
  Speaker 9: to put probably as much pressure to him in the
• 55:13
  Speaker 9: opposite line as you possibly can. Order to do that,
• 55:16
  Speaker 9: you can't give him the whole playbook every time. So
• 55:19
  Speaker 9: how you get that done? It's kind of like a method,
• 55:21
  Speaker 9: you know you could and that really that's based off
• 55:24
  Speaker 9: of your personal philosophy, but also like what your players
• 55:27
  Speaker 9: can do and who you have. We're we're really blessed
• 55:29
  Speaker 9: to have an incredible front and uh, you know, we
• 55:32
  Speaker 9: give our deeps to tackles a ton of credit and
• 55:34
  Speaker 9: they and they deserve an incredible amount of credit. But
• 55:38
  Speaker 9: the guys that are playing on the edge and the
• 55:40
  Speaker 9: guys who have played at the second level this year
• 55:43
  Speaker 9: and really a third level, you know, if fit the ball,
• 55:45
  Speaker 9: if and when the ball spits out of there, they
• 55:47
  Speaker 9: are playing great football as well, you know, like we
• 55:50
  Speaker 9: are putting, uh, even the edge guys under stress of
• 55:54
  Speaker 9: these of like the expectation of you know, winning more
• 55:58
  Speaker 9: than your one on one on a play to play basis.
• 56:01
  Speaker 9: And the inside backers in the second level guys, they're
• 56:04
  Speaker 9: responsible for more than one gap in the run game too.
• 56:06
  Speaker 9: So everybody's kind of doing their one point h nine
• 56:10
  Speaker 9: as we kind of nerd out and say, and so
• 56:12
  Speaker 9: I think that's how you end up with, uh, you know,
• 56:15
  Speaker 9: the run defensive you know, effort and production that we've
• 56:18
  Speaker 9: had as all those guys working and working together, and
• 56:20
  Speaker 9: you end up with kind of the summer is greater
• 56:22
  Speaker 9: than the whole its parts type of thing.
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: S Ox Head coach slash genius slash nerding out guest
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: joining us Mike McDonald here on Chuck and Buck in
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: the mornings as we get you ready for the Seahawks playoff,
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: which won't start till next week. We got to buy
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: this week, of course, and then get ready for the
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: next round of the playoffs. Is your defense playing I
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: mean that forty nine ers game? Is that as that
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: is that as good as you can expect? I mean,
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: are are you playing your best football on defense right
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: now since you arrived here?
• 56:53
  Speaker 9: I think I think that's a fair statement. That's that's uh,
• 56:55
  Speaker 9: that's probably the best we've we've played up to this point,
• 56:59
  Speaker 9: just from first the last play, all even guys on
• 57:03
  Speaker 9: one accord playing with playing with shocking effort, you know,
• 57:08
  Speaker 9: and and it was just it was just it was
• 57:11
  Speaker 9: just a great team effort, really was you know, it
• 57:13
  Speaker 9: wasn't tried to stay it after the game. I mean,
• 57:15
  Speaker 9: our coaches have done a great job of putting playing together.
• 57:18
  Speaker 9: But I think the more important part is like how
• 57:21
  Speaker 9: we prepared our guys, the work that our guys had
• 57:23
  Speaker 9: put in like on a weekly basis, so they can
• 57:25
  Speaker 9: go play that way, you know. And then at the
• 57:28
  Speaker 9: end of the day, the guys they make the decision
• 57:29
  Speaker 9: every time they take the field that uh, there's a
• 57:32
  Speaker 9: standard they want to uphold, and they really they really
• 57:34
  Speaker 9: made it come to life on Saturday night.
• 57:36
  Speaker 8: It was.
• 57:37
  Speaker 7: It was.
• 57:38
  Speaker 9: It was a pretty pretty awesome game by those guys.
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: Well, one guy that has been coming to life, so
• 57:44
  Speaker 6: to speak, ever since training camp. I would think, is
• 57:46
  Speaker 6: Nick even worry? I mean, we talked a lot about
• 57:49
  Speaker 6: him in training camp. You spoke a lot about him
• 57:51
  Speaker 6: in training camp. Just are you at all surprised by
• 57:55
  Speaker 6: what he's capable of doing or is this just one
• 57:57
  Speaker 6: of those rare unicorns that you can just keep throwing
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: stuff at him and he excels.
• 58:01
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's uh when you when you it's tough to
• 58:05
  Speaker 9: have in my I don't know, in my role, it's
• 58:08
  Speaker 9: tough for me to have expectations for guys you have.
• 58:11
  Speaker 9: I think we have like we have like visions for guys,
• 58:14
  Speaker 9: you know that of where we feel like we can
• 58:17
  Speaker 9: their game can go.
• 58:19
  Speaker 8: And this is.
• 58:23
  Speaker 9: You know a big part of the vision that we
• 58:24
  Speaker 9: have for Nick. And I know he feels like I
• 58:27
  Speaker 9: feel like, you know, he kind of expects the same
• 58:29
  Speaker 9: thing out of out of his game as well. And
• 58:30
  Speaker 9: when that marries up now now now you're able to
• 58:34
  Speaker 9: kind of hit the daily things that you need to
• 58:36
  Speaker 9: be able to do so he can grow his game
• 58:38
  Speaker 9: to get to the point that it is. You know,
• 58:39
  Speaker 9: it's not like it's not like you kind of hit Rep. Okay,
• 58:42
  Speaker 9: now I've done. I just hit Rep. Five hundred. Now
• 58:44
  Speaker 9: I'm ready to go. Like now, now my game is
• 58:47
  Speaker 9: going to take the jump.
• 58:48
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 58:48
  Speaker 9: It's it's this constant, incremental like attacking of things. So
• 58:53
  Speaker 9: he can he can just he can play faster and Okay,
• 58:56
  Speaker 9: now I can recognize things and play out of snaps more. Okay,
• 58:59
  Speaker 9: Now maybe we can add a technique here there, maybe
• 59:01
  Speaker 9: we can put him at a different part of the field.
• 59:03
  Speaker 9: And and he's and he's really adding onto the game
• 59:06
  Speaker 9: that he's built up to that point. So uh, I
• 59:09
  Speaker 9: think I think the fair thing today is like we're
• 59:11
  Speaker 9: really excited about him being at this point in his career.
• 59:13
  Speaker 9: And again, I mean, I know he's doing a lot
• 59:15
  Speaker 9: and he's playing really great football, but uh, there's more,
• 59:19
  Speaker 9: there's more to go. I mean, he is, he has
• 59:21
  Speaker 9: room to grow. He should expect that out of himself.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: I know we do.
• 59:24
  Speaker 9: And it's going to be, uh, it's going to be
• 59:27
  Speaker 9: exciting career, he's for sure. I mean, and really throughout
• 59:29
  Speaker 9: the rest of the season and we're still looking for
• 59:30
  Speaker 9: ways for him to effect games and giving him different techniques.
• 59:34
  Speaker 9: He's working, you know, before and after practice, and we
• 59:37
  Speaker 9: just continue to attack this thing to give him some
• 59:39
  Speaker 9: more tools in his tool belt.
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: Well, I suppose I got to give you in John
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: credit for Nick emon warr. I mean, you trade it
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: up to get him and he's turned out to be
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: and you were so excited on the night of the
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: draft where you did get him and it's turned out
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: to be great. But now that I've seen him, and
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: I think about where you got him in the draft,
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: and like, how dare you wait till the thirty fifth pick?
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: I mean, do you know who, real, guys, how much
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: you risked by not getting higher coach in the draft.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: I can't even imagine this team without number three out there.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: Shame on you, coach.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 9: It's uh, you know, it's funny because it's that that
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 9: really is a testament to John and Nolan and all
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 9: the guys that have like they have experience about they
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 9: kind of read the tee leaves of taking those calculated
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 9: debts in the draft where you have a feeling of okay,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 9: these are kind of sweet spots where you feel like
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 9: a player might be available and now looking back at it,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 9: maybe it was a little a little risky at the time,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 9: you know, you're bullets there, but uh, you know, we
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 9: had the draft capital and and John was aggressive and
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 9: decisive in that moment, and that felt like that was
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 9: the right time to do it, and we were able
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 9: to you know, we had we had grades where you
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 9: could argue taking them in the first round too. And yeah,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 9: and I don't think based off based off performance, I
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 9: don't think anybody would have beat it an eye. But
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 9: to end up with grad Zabel and Nicky Man Worry.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 7: Is a a heck of a dance.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 9: That's a great job.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: I got those guys.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: And and to have like the patients and the trust
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: that you there was to try to play it out
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: where you got them both. I mean, man, coach, I've
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: had fantasy football drafts where I couldn't take the pressure
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: in the tense intensity of waiting for you know, Ken
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: Walker to get to me in the third round. I
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: can't even I can't even imagine what that was like.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: On Draft night, Mike McDonald with us here on Chuck
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: and Buck in the Morning Sports Radio ninety three point
• 1:01:31
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  Speaker 4: So let's talk about your quarterback. The entire nation, even
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: some people here locally seem really worried about his number
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: of turnovers. Why is Mike McDonald not worried about that
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: at all?
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think I think we're worried about what Sam does.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 9: All the inputs. You know, it's because it's it's it's
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 9: easy to tell. Like I've said this before, but when
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 9: you start coaching outcomes, that's to me, that's like confusing
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 9: as a player. You know, like, uh, I don't know
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 9: make like you got to make that tackle or you
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 9: gotta like why don't you get a sack on that play? Like, well,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 9: you know why why wouldn't you work? Why wouldn't you
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 9: be coaching me on where I went aligned and how
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 9: I got off the football and like the how I
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 9: like how I attack, like the the contact zone and
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 9: the rush, or how I finished the play. Well, the
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 9: same thing for the quarterback. You know, it's what was
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 9: your mentality going to the play. Okay, let's coach your
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 9: footwork up? Where did your eyes start? How'd you see
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 9: the read? You know, where you decited it in that moment?
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 9: The way we want you to play? You know, I
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 9: think those are the things that are clear to a
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 9: player on how you want them to play. And it
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 9: if you start coaching outcomes now you now, I think
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 9: you're going to start getting players on your team that
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 9: aren't playing the way you want and uh, you don't
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 9: get the style of play that we've been able to create.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: And so.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 9: You know, it's the most important position. And and and
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 9: Sam is a great player. But the way we coach
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 9: our guys is going to remain the same and and
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 9: that and that's and that's just how we're going to
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 9: roll here. You know, is at this I believe that
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 9: that's definitely the way to do it.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 6: Coach, did you you were talking about vision to you
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 6: how you envision players more so than as setting expectations.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 6: Second year here obviously Jackson Smith and Jig was second year.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 6: Did you have the vision when when moves were made
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 6: and he was all of a sudden thrust into the
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 6: w R one, did you envision him leading the league.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: In yards and being as productive as he has been?
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 9: Well, it was talking to Jack's at the end of
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 9: the season, and you know, and he had some I
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 9: mean like he had some monster games last year. You
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 9: know where he was where he's catching the ball at
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 9: all three levels and showed the ability to to really
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 9: make an impact all across the field. I don't like
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 9: saying like one or the X or these because you know,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 9: when you have a guy like that, you are able
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 9: to move him around. You know, he can make plays
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 9: over the middle and on outside lanes and deep throat,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 9: you know, all those sorts of things. So like that's
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 9: the law you're looking for with your receivers. And then
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 9: and then I really felt great going to the office
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 9: thing because of what Jack shared with me that like
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 9: he had that vision for himself and that's what he
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 9: expected where his game could go. And uh, I think
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 9: at that point, just understanding who he is, it's like
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 9: he said that, like I'm not one to doubt this guy,
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  Speaker 9: you know. So it's like, all right, great, let's go
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 9: attack it. And then, you know, as you start to
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 9: as we started to build our offense out and and
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 9: you and you and you saw like what we were
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 9: doing on a daily basis between him and Sam and
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 9: Coop and the rest of our receiver group, You're like, man,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 9: these guys are they're really doing some cool stuff. And
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 9: and we and then when we start getting in like
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 9: into practice periods, and competition periods, we're at my hard
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 9: time guarding this guy, you know, like he's he's catching
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 9: a lot of balls and there's not much we can
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 9: do about it right now. And so that's that's really
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 9: where you felt like, okay, like these things are are merging,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 9: you know, the vision of how we're doing it, and
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 9: now it's coming to now we're seeing on daily basis.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 9: Then now you start to get excited about what we
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 9: could possibly do. So that's that's that's really how it
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 9: all came together from from my.
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  Speaker 4: Perspective speaking, emerging your running game. Has it arrived to
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: your satisfaction just in time for the playoffs?
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 9: If if I start saying like, hey, we've arrived in
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 9: any part of our game, then watch out, that's not good.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 7: All right.
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  Speaker 9: There's I mean, there's you always like we talked about
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 9: chasing edges, there's there's another level that even our defense like, okay,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 9: it's fair to say that's probably our best played game.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 9: But you know, we're we're meeting up in you know,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 9: this morning, our defensive staff talking about how we want
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 9: to play a certain coverage against some of these like
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 9: these patterns that teams are attacking us with and and
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 9: tweaking maybe some of our rules and maybe maybe adding
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 9: a wrinkle here or there. So it's like we're always
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 9: we're always looking for what's the next next thing, and
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 9: the run game is no different. There's there's still a
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 9: handful of plays a game that we want to be
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 9: able to be more efficient, and there's a block here
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 9: there danger every play where he's like, man, if we
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 9: could just maybe take a different angle, or how are
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 9: we coaching that? Can we attack this fundamental maybe a
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 9: little bit more? Is there a drill we could do
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 9: so this guy can you know we can make this
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 9: combination come to life? And and now we can hit
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 9: the right track and now we're looking at more explosive runs.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 9: So I think I think you have to have that
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 9: mentality And in terms of you know, are we are
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 9: we excited that our run game has really taken off
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 9: of the last month or so, absolutely, you know, I
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 9: think that's a I think that's a good you know,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 9: it's a It's one of those deals where it's like,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 9: I know what our teams have done, our team has
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 9: done every day to to make our run game this effective,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 9: And I'm excited for the guys because you realize the
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 9: work they put in, but we also realize, hey, this
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 9: isn't a level we can go coach.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 6: I mean, as a former athlete, I always had a
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 6: hard time like rooting for any team because I was like, oh,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 6: I want them to win because then I can play,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 6: we can play them. I didn't want to do that
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 6: for some reason. It felt like I would be setting
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 6: my self up for something bad. And yet I am wondering,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 6: from your perspective coming down the stretch here with the
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 6: Niners and the Panther game and the Rams game, both
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 6: Rams games for that matter, is there a part of
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 6: you that's you're feeling good about how you match up
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 6: with those guys, like, yeah, let's bring that on. I'll go,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 6: let's go for a third time against those guys. Or
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 6: is it you just you don't really care how it
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 6: pans out, bring on all com or somebody's got to
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 6: come into loomen and you're wanting to smack them down.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 9: It's no, I see if it's like it's like when
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 9: you get the It's like when the schedule comes out,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 9: it's you're like, oh, shoot, we haven't played Indianapolis ever, okay,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 9: and you look, okay, let's week fifteen, So you kind
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 9: of have to trust that, like by that point when
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 9: you have to play that team and that challenge, you're
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 9: going to kind of use the things that you have
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 9: on hand then put the best plan together, you know.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 9: So that's the way I'm looking at this week is, hey,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 9: there's there's four teams that we could play. We don't
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 9: know yet. You know, we're going to do we can
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 9: right now, and then whoever ends up, you know, end
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 9: up being the team that we're going to play. Now,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 9: let's go, you know, let's go kind of identify the
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 9: things we got to be able to do that week,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 9: and then let's go knock it out so we can
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 9: go go play for a great game. But I think
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 9: one of the things that really helped us this year
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 9: is we just really haven't wasted a bunch of time
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 9: on you know, who we're playing, or the circumstance behind
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 9: where we're playing, or you know what day it is,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 9: and it's just like all that stuff. It's kind of
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 9: just stuff, you know, the stuff that really doesn't how
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 9: well we're preparing how we play, and our guys been
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 9: great with that, and we're going to stick to that
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 9: plan to say, you know, take it to the next level.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: Well, here we go.
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  Speaker 4: We're getting ready to take it to the next level,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: all right, getting ready for your first playoff appearance as
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: an NFL head coach.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: Do you have a plan?
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: Do you have like a pair of lucky underwear, or
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: you know, some keepsake from some old coach or the wife,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: like some sort of rose that she kept from your
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: junior prom something like that to get you give you
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: a little extra boost for the playoffs.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 9: Uh. I have been known to be a little stitious.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: Uh, but not super though.
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  Speaker 9: I'll tell you what though. I mean, it's it look
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 9: like you said, this is our first playoff game, you
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 9: know so, But if you make it about us being
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 9: our first playoff game, then now I feel like you
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 9: can kind of lose track of the process and how
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 9: you can like kind of best get ready. So you know,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 9: our process is going to say the same and and
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 9: we're going to attack the heck out of the week
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 9: just like we've done every other week. And I know
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 9: our guys are really excited to play in front of
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 9: the twelves and we're gonna need it rocking, which I
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 9: know we will be. It's going to be it's gonna
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 9: be electric, but we know the game's coming. We got
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 9: to do we gotta do what we need to do
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 9: in the meanwhile to be ready to make sure that
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 9: we're ready to go.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's been a great ride so far.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, man, really enjoy watching your football team play
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: and watch you coach out there. So uh, best of luck,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: best of luck on hope that hope you achieve everything
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: you're seeking to achieve. And we appreciate your time here
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: this morning.
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  Speaker 9: All right, guys, Yeah, I appreciate it. I'm glad we
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 9: could finally finally knock this Out's great.
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  Speaker 1: All right, thank you, coach, good luck.
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  Speaker 9: All right, thanks guys.
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  Speaker 4: Mike McDonald joining us right here on Chuck and Buck
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: in the morning. So all right, coming up next Cam
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: Cleveland to talk about Demon Williams Junior Sports Radio ninety
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  Speaker 4: three point three kJ R F M.
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  Speaker 1: Him, Chuck A. Buck Ashley. We're the here on this
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: football Friday. That's right, Football Fridays. Oh, we do it
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: every Friday. That makes sense, Football Friday during Yeah, I
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: know sometimes though, like Taco Tuesday. I'll do that on
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: a Wednesday. Oh yeah, yeah, that sounds import yeah, every day. Yeah, yeah, And.
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  Speaker 4: So football Friday sponsored by Tito's Handmade Vodka. We've got,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: of course, Hugh Melon nine o'clock x's the Nose. Mike
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: Homer nine thirty will be joining us. So we haven't
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: chatted with Cam Cleveland for a little while, but it
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: really felt like we should. Uh, and so the bat
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: signal went out for Cam last night to come on here,
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  Speaker 4: and he's I'm gonna make him in charge of making
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: sense of this demand.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: Williams Junior story. So Cam, get it rolling, go start well.
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  Speaker 10: Football Friday. By the way, before we get started, what's our.
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  Speaker 7: Go to food on football Friday? Oh? Guys, If it's not,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 7: I mean, what is it?
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  Speaker 1: I don't have a set.
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  Speaker 7: I know, I threw a curveball in the corner.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: You know, I mean, I mean, I don't really have one.
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  Speaker 4: But what what certainly screams out to me.
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  Speaker 1: Just barbecue. Let's get some barbecue on football Friday.
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  Speaker 7: What do you I can appreciate that. I can appreciate that.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 10: I'm a wings Monday Friday guy. But it's got to
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 10: be wings. It's gotta be wings at all times.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: Are you drums or drums or flats?
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 7: Guy? I'm a fly. I can do both. I don't deviate.
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  Speaker 10: I know, I don't like to throw away from that
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 10: too much. So you know, if you guys want to
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 10: throw some wings my way anytime.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 7: But you know what, let's go.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: Let we'll work that into your contract for next year.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: We got to do that.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, camp Clean is with us here this morning.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, what after all this, I don't even know
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: if the dust is settled, the dust is still flying
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: around in the air. Where are you at with this
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: entire story with Deman this week?
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  Speaker 8: Oh?
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  Speaker 7: I guess guys.
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  Speaker 10: I'll preface this as a fifty year old guy that
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 10: played in the NFL and played.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 7: In college football.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 10: So let's let me be really understanding of the fan
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 10: base and people and everybody's there's entitled to their opinions
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 10: and stuff. And I'm not going to try to convince
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 10: anybody on how to think. I'm gonna start it with
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 10: all of that, But our job is to give you
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 10: an opinion. And I don't speak in the gospel, but
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 10: I do speak and just an experience, and I'll look
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 10: at it from this. It's not surprising the way college
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 10: football is, the way college football is designed.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 7: It needs to be adjusted and changed.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 10: And I'll start with two perspectives that I think are
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 10: important when I look at what demand William's situation was.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 10: I'm going to start with the business side, and then
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 10: I'll go to the personal side. And I'll first start
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 10: with business. Name image and likeness starts with an individual mentality.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 10: It was created to protect the name on the back
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 10: of your jersey, and anybody on the outside that's listening
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 10: to this or understands marketing. Name, image and likeness on
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 10: YouTube or anything is pretty valuable because you're born with it. Yeah,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 10: you can change your name, you can mess around with
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 10: it if you're a Hollywood superstar. But in football, it's
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 10: based on performance and athletics. It's based on talent performance.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 10: You don't even have to have a good personality, right
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 10: you just you have to perform. Performance garners you of value.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 10: And then when you can maximize that value from age
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 10: sixteen now, because high school kids are getting six figure
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 10: amounts to transfer to high schools. Now, it's happening in Seattle,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 10: it's happening everywhere. You have to take advantage of that.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 10: If that's the kind of person that you want to
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 10: choose to be in this sporting industry. Because as Bucky,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 10: you understand, or anybody you get it, Chuck. You don't
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 10: get into the sports business if you don't want to perform,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 10: if you don't want to be a starter, if you
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 10: don't want to be one of one hundred and thirty three. Look,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 10: there's thirty two jobs in the world at quarterback. There's
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 10: one hundred and thirty three jobs in all of college
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 10: football at the enter thirty six FCS level or FBS level.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 10: Twenty five of those jobs are told by some guys
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 10: in August that write you in. If you're pretty good, right,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 10: they write you in and they tell you that. So
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 10: Deman made a decision to maximize. He sat in the
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 10: contract room with his head coach and probably had the
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 10: same agent, which he did as his head coach. His
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 10: head coach came to the University of Washington and put
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 10: a slogan at you.
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  Speaker 7: Now, I don't have any problems with the slogan. I don't.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 7: This is part of business, said be a pro. Okay.
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  Speaker 10: In fact, outside of the offices is a list of
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 10: professional athletes that have all been Huskies. Be a pro
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 10: means we're in a pro sport. Now, we're not in
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 10: college and I'm trying to help everybody understand this is
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 10: this was a business decision. How again, I'm not justifying
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 10: it four and a half million dollars. So your job
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 10: is to maximize it. You have a sixteen to twenty
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 10: two age window of where you can maximize your earning value.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 10: All right, that's the business side. I don't want to
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 10: take up all your show. But the personal side of
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 10: this is at those risks of taking business, you make
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 10: personal risks, you make relationship risks, you make teammate and
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 10: locker room risks. You put yourself above. But if there's
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 10: a twenty million dollar cap, guys at a college level
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 10: with this point, twenty million dollars to twenty two ten
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 10: kids will make seventy the sixty five percent of that
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 10: cap money in the NFL, I'm sorry, twenty twenty will
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 10: make in the NFL. It's like seven to ten make
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 10: sixty five to seventy percent of the NFL cap, ranging
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 10: all the way up to almost two under and fifty
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 10: million dollars. So we're not any different. So if you
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 10: know that you got another seventy guys that you're trying
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 10: to lead in scholarship and win a football game, you
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 10: have to earn them back a little bit. You have
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 10: to take care of them and understand it. So we've
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 10: made a mess of college football a little bit by
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 10: becoming professional and telling kids to act professions eighteen years old.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 10: And the final part is you surrounded yourself with people. Okay,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 10: now I'm not in his camp. And if you have
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 10: a team of people at age eighteen and nineteen, you're
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 10: already doomed.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 7: Okay, you know what I mean. You're doomed.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 10: Yeah, you're going to have somebody on the outside. Somebody
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 10: got to demand. I think he's on Twitter. He's made
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 10: his point. He said that he got demand. He got
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 10: to Miko also, and you tried to maximize your vote.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 7: Where Demon made.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 10: His mistake because he signed a contract with the Universe
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 10: University of Washington before he maximized his value. He got
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 10: his number first, signed it and didn't go out and shop.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 10: That's his right to do it. But those that sit
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 10: here right now and all the Washington fans, his timing
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 10: was atrocious. With me, it was awful, horrible. And if
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 10: you mean to tell me that was his decision, yes,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 10: it was was he advised. I'm not going to even
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 10: speculate it was just a horrible decision. Demon has some
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 10: work to do. Those are my business and personal sides
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 10: of this story. Do I welcome demon back? Look, and
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 10: I'm going to give you this is flat out. I
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 10: love Husky football. I love it to my core. It
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 10: is the number one sport by a billion to me.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 10: And how I watch college football.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 7: I cheer for Saturdays.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 11: People.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 10: Individual players are important, but I cheer for the w
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 10: on that helmet, the gold, the people that are in
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 10: that stadium on Saturdays.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 7: I do not wrap.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 10: Myself up personally and invest emotionally anymore in individual players
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 10: because I just love Saturday and I want to appreciate
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 10: the way these boys and these coaches work their ass
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 10: off for Saturday, not the stuff I can't control and
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 10: the millions of dollars that are in shot. Can you
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 10: shout from the rooftops and be upset, Yes, But I
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 10: do not spend investment time on making them think that
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 10: there's some delusional loyalty in college sports that needs to
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 10: be Do I think majority of kids need to be
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 10: more loyal?
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah? I do. I think they do.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 10: And I also value relationships over dollar figures because I
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 10: can't take money with me.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 7: But I will be remembered for.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 10: The relationships I've made with people. My quick synapsis of
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 10: the demand scenario.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 7: I know it was wasn't quick, but I tried to
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 7: be concise.
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  Speaker 1: That's great.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Kim, all right, if you if he came to
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  Speaker 6: you and said, what do I need to do?
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, would you encourage him?
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  Speaker 6: I would tell him personally, you go out and do
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 6: a press conference, take your medicine, answer the questions, tell
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 6: people you're sorry for the mistakes you made, and you
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 6: hope to be able to repair whatever miss you know,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 6: distrust is now there.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, what would you tell the kid?
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 11: Uh?
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 10: I Well, first of all, I would tell him as
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 10: that and I don't mind that, Bucky.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 7: I think that's a good idea.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 10: I would tell him the first, uh, you better, you
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 10: better grab all his teammates and he better organize a
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 10: wing party or pizza and at whatever place is, pay
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 10: all the ubers for them to show up, organize it
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 10: at the team wherever it is. They didn't have to
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 10: be there and start with him. Yeah, because what we
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 10: think on the outside, we're finnicky, Okay, we're fans, we're people. Right,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 10: you're gonna be as loyal as as the win and
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 10: lost column is in that scenario next to that team name, that's.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 7: Just who you are.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 10: So yeah, I want him to I want him to
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 10: win that locker room back. I want him to get
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 10: the coaches that he might have burned a little bit back.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 7: I think that the youth needs.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 10: That kind of leadership more than making sure Steve and
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 10: the rest of the podcasters are aren't upset at him.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 10: I'm sorry, I'm just along that lines. What a press
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 10: conference nationally where he answers questions from from gritty old
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 10: sports writers and salty sports radio people helped. Sure, Yeah,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 10: you know, I'm sure it will help. But none of
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 10: those guys are going to the war with you on Saturday,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 10: because we've all seen the clip of the Longest Yard
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 10: when Adam Sandler at his first couple snaps right and
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 10: they're like, well you didn't learn it, dude, You're gonna
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 10: get your ass kicked for a little bit. So that
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 10: along those lines, I think he's got to earn his
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 10: locker room back.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, there's a lot more to discuss.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 4: I'm sure we don't have the time here today, so
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: I'll just close with the most important question. I think
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: I can ask you at this point, when you were
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 4: at your peak, how many wings could you crush in
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 4: one setting?
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 7: Okay, let me just tell you this.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 10: This is part of this is I'm going to give
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 10: a shout out to my local establishment. Then we'll head
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 10: out of here Windome. Shout out to you guys.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 7: You're phenomenal. See, I love you.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 10: Every Monday night we'd get done and we'd have to
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 10: run a mile in our paths on Monday night in
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 10: the cold Monday night practice. And after I was done,
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 10: I would go to Wing Wing Doome and I would
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 10: order fifty and then I would order a large pizza.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 7: That was my routine on Mondays.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 10: And to tell you, I couldn't have crushed probably another
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 10: thirty or forty wings at the time. Yeah, yeah, that
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 10: was that was a standard procedure.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. If you wouldn't have let that pizza get in,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: if you wouldn't have let that pizza to get in
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: the way, you could have probably got one.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 7: Gee, no question, please.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 10: And I'm hovering around three and four alarm all the time,
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 10: probably comfortable fore alarm.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 7: That's good. I love you Wingdom real man.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: I have a feeling we need to call Wingdom to
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: get as our game Cleveland sponsor next year.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is a layup right here.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 7: All right, guys, his job, that's your job. Go get
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 7: to work, mine rich work.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks man, We appreciate it, and we'll chat with you
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: real soon.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: All right, all right, thanks all right, Cam Cleveland, former
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 4: Husky legend tight end and current color analyst right here
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 4: on Husky's broadcast win In on demand, Williams Junior, I'm
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: going to ask you to do the same thing at
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 4: nine o'clock. But coming up next, I got a question
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: for Ashley and Bucky, a very personal question. Sports Radio
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: ninety three point three kJ R f M got Ashley,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 4: we got Bucky, we got Chuck with you, and of
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 4: course at nine o'clock on Fridays, it's our QB one
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 4: time for x's and o's with you. Millan by Frost
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  Speaker 4: Brood Corps like Jews chill, Good morning, Hugh.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: Good morning. How are you. We're doing great. We're doing great.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: A lot of stuff to get to.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 4: I do have to get your opinion though, as somebody
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 4: that as a farmer you dubbed quarterback. What are your
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 4: thoughts on the current again you dub quarterback? This entire
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 4: Demand Williams junior situation this week.
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  Speaker 12: Well, I'll just Sarah, you might take the and a
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 12: couple things that, on a relative scale probably didn't bother
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 12: me as much. Number one, the issue of him signing
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 12: on a Friday, January second, and then with the Washington
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 12: and then and then pulling out and announcing his entry
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 12: into the portal, Well, certainly I was disappointed, angry. I
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 12: don't think that college football players and coaches are doing
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 12: a lot of the same things you know you see
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 12: with Lane Kiffin. I don't think they're uniquely greedy. I
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 12: think that it in some ways, this is a window
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 12: into our humanity, our dna. Jesus had more parables in
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 12: the in the Bible about money and greed than he
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 12: did about lover or any other topic. The Latin and
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 12: the Greek philosophers talked about greed. Shakespeare wrote about greed
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 12: like I think that this is part of it. And
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 12: I think a lot of people who have have been
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 12: critical of demand what he did. If they in their
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 12: own lives had an opportunity, there was a loophole in
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 12: some contract, they they could get out and benefit to
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 12: the tune of two million dollars or more. Whether it's
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 12: you're selling a house or whatever, contract, if you could
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 12: get out of it and say, wait a minute, uh,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 12: if you if you get out of this contract, which
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 12: there's a loophole that you can, it'll you'll make you'll
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 12: pocket an extra two million. I think a lot of
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 12: people would do that. Now, a lot of people wouldn't.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 12: There's been honorable men and women throughout history, and they
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 12: are to be lauded. But I do think that and
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 12: a lot of people who would not at forty they
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 12: would have at nineteen. So that's a thought there. The
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 12: Mia Hammont a portion of this is very unfortunate. I
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 12: got to use my words carefully. It was very unfortunate.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 12: I try to imagine if I was Mia Hammett's father.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 12: Do I think that Demon Williams purposely did it.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: At that time? No, I don't.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 12: I think that that announcement that he was going into
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 12: the portal was probably written by somebody else, and it
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 12: was probably they were going to exercise that. And then
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 12: when when the national media got a hold of it,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 12: I think Pete Dammell and others were reporting these going
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 12: in the in the portal. I think probably somebody just said, well,
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 12: let's just put this announcement out. So I I think
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 12: there's a little bit of grace in my own mind
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 12: for that, because I don't think it was evil or
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 12: in vindict. You know, certainly it was an oversight, it
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 12: was insensitive and all of that, But again, I don't
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 12: think that he was just that calculatedly cold. The part
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 12: that bothers me right now the most is that we
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 12: can infer based on a set of facts, what transpired
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 12: when when Demon Williams put his name in the portal,
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 12: there was a part that said do not contact. Now
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 12: you think about it. If there's guys who goes in
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 12: portal for different reasons and you say, well, I want
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 12: to go in in the portal for the highest bidder,
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 12: you're not gonna say do not uh, do not contact.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 12: If you put do not contact, it's because you've already
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 12: got it lined up. And and I find entirely credible
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 12: the the uh, the horses that say that it was LSU.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 8: Here.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 12: Demond Williams had committed to Lane Kiffin at Ole mist
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 12: out of high school, but he's an Arizona kid. He
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 12: flipped to Jed Fish. You look at all the problems
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 12: that that LSU has had I think what happened is
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 12: that Ellen, once Washington threatened to sue, LSU has had
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 12: a barrage of you know, there's all these controversies with
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 12: with Lane Kiffin. There was controversies about Scott Wood where
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 12: the uh, the athletic director and the governor's getting involved
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 12: and and so, and you know, tampering. There's clear evidence
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 12: of tampering in my mind with respect to Lane Kiffin
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 12: and to Demon Williams. I think that's where he was going.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 12: And then when there was a threat of the suit,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 12: I think that LSU said, hey, we're not for us
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 12: to get you. We'd have to pay Washington four million
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 12: and then you six million. That means you're a ten
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 12: million dollar quarterback, the Saint worth the squeeze. And that's
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 12: what everybody else thought. And so Demon Williams did. He
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 12: didn't have some kind of of like epiphany like, oh
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 12: I missed my my, my uh teammates. You know, I'm
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 12: really a husky. What did I do all of this?
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 12: Like some people do that when they break up with
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 12: their girlfriend, right, oh my god, you know what a mistake.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 12: He didn't have that. I don't think any of the
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 12: evidence points to that. The evidence points that that Washington
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 12: was the only place he could go. And so now
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 12: he he puts his tail between his legs and he
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 12: comes back to Washington. And I think it's an enormous
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 12: uh fracture of the locker room, the the the fan
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 12: base and what have you. And so so they're gonna,
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 12: you're gonna hear uh jetfish say oh everything's fine, the
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 12: players are fine, and you know, and and they're gonna
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 12: they're gonna try and piss on us and tell us
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 12: it's raining. And I'm not gonna buy any of that.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 12: And so, uh, yeah, I got a really bad taste
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 12: in my mind, in my mouth. More so for the
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 12: circumstance why he's returning as I just described.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think there's well put, I'm going to ask you,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 6: how can he come back and rejuvenate what was in
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 6: the locker room? I mean you, because I'm with you.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 6: I don't think that anybody in that locker room. While
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 6: a lot of might be understanding that, hey, if you
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 6: were getting more money, go get your bag, as they say,
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 6: I don't think anybody's gonna fault him for that. But
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 6: on the flip side, you basically said I don't want
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 6: to be here. I'd rather be somewhere else. And now
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 6: you're back here, whether you like it or not, because
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 6: finance has said so.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 12: I think it's a big problem. And I always you know,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 12: this is my twenty eighth year on KJO. I've been
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 12: asked many times, Hey, what do the players think about this?
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 12: And I always preface I say, look, you got on
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 12: a football team in in a league, and what have
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 12: you got? You got, you know, guys from Washington, California.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 12: You rich guys, poor guys, black guys, white guys, young guys.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 12: Will got like Democrats, Republicans, you know, Christians, atheists, We
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 12: got all different kinds of personalities. I'm not speaking for
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 12: you know, people asking but what do you got your
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 12: eighty four team? I'm not speaking for my eighty four teammates.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 12: But what I can do is I can speak to
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 12: my sense of my teammates. Now that might be a
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 12: semantic kind of detail, but it's important for me to
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 12: say that. So if I'm going to talk about what
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 12: the players, here's my sense, and I'm certain of this
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 12: in my own mind, there's gonna be one of three
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 12: players on that hustle. You've got over one hundred guys.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 12: There's gonna be guys are gonna end up in one
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 12: of three categories. There's gonna be a category of players
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 12: that are relatively supportive of demand, like, hey, no big deal.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 12: That's the the nil world we live in. I don't
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 12: know what the percentages of the team, but I'm certain
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 12: one or more of those are gonna be relatively supportive DeMont.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 12: There's gonna be a portion of them, again, this is
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 12: my sense, that will be relatively indifferent, like hey, I'm
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 12: worried about me whatever. And there's gonna be a portion
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 12: of that locker room that is bitter and resentful of
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 12: of what he did, how he came back. And they're
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 12: not gonna say it on on the uh on on
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 12: the on the record. You're gonna have the head coach
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 12: insisting to us that it's not a problem. You're gonna
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 12: get two or three or four uh players that are
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 12: going willing to go on the record to say, hey,
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 12: no big deal, we love Demond, and that may or
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 12: may not be true. Let's just uh uh grant that
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 12: it is true for those players. But the dozens and
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 12: scores of players who are not okay with this, they
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 12: are not gonna go on the record, and so all uh,
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 12: you know, there's gonna be a large faction of fans.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 12: They're gonna say, see, it's okay. The coach says it's okay.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 12: There's three teammates who just said no, it's not okay.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 12: There's a good and what you have is a divided,
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 12: splintered locker room. And and so now the core of
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 12: of of of the unity has been fractured on this team.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: And they they.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 12: Go next next, next year. I don't know when it's
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 12: gonna happen. I don't know if it's against Penn State
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 12: or or whether it's against Indiana or or whomever, uh
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 12: you know, could be Iowa, whatever, Oregon. At some point,
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 12: that team is gonna face adversity. They're gonna be down
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 12: ten points in the third quarter and they and the
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 12: the fabric of their uni will not be able to
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 12: carry them through. And you can trace it back to this.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 12: That's my take on this week. And so I think
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 12: he has divided that locker room. I think that he
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 12: has created a situation at home. He's gonna hear we
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 12: got a divided fan base. He's gonna hear booze. Those
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 12: booze are are not the environment that that is ideal
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 12: for thriving on the offense. You know, oh man, we
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 12: went three and out boom, you know like that that
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 12: that makes things harder on the team. So so I
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 12: think in many ways this this is going to have
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 12: a reverberating effect.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 4: Should Fish and Chun welcomed him back, should they have
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 4: done something different in that situation?
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 12: In your opinion, I think that there there's a little
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 12: bit of it of sell your soul to the devilish
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 12: nature of this. For me, I think that he would
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 12: in the long run, this would have garnered more respect
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 12: had he said Nope, not coming back. Nope, that because
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 12: because that lays the foundation. When I was with the
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 12: Dallas Cowboys and there was a a linebacker named Mike
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 12: Roper who fell asleep in a starting linebacker fell asleep
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 12: in a a in a special teams to me, and
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 12: he got cut, just cut him, and that had a
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 12: reverberation for years there. Everson Walls had been the best
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 12: corner on the Dallas Cowboys when Jimmy Johnson got there.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 12: Jimmy Johnson was around the corner and Emerson Walls was
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 12: getting Everson Walls getting his ankles taped and he was
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 12: grousing about a mini camp practice. Jimmy overheard it, and
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 12: he went in, looked at him, and then walked up
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 12: in his office and cut him their best player they
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 12: were one in fifteen. Cut their best player that had
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 12: a reverberating effect when a leader takes a leadership stance.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 12: And so, but I don't expect Jed Fish to do
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 12: that because I don't know.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 12: I think Jed Fish wanted the he wanted the Florida job,
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 12: he wanted the Michigan job. I think he's he wants
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 12: on one of these eight NFL jobs. I don't think
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 12: he's long for the job. So it doesn't surprise me
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 12: that he would bring him back. I understand there's a
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 12: fair point, like, hey, Demant Williams is a talented quarterback.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 12: You know he's gonna have to solve his issue about
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 12: how he plays against the bottom twenty out of sixty
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 12: seven Power four. The five wins that he had, they
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 12: were all against bottom twenty and then the top twenty five.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 12: That's where the losses was and he was borderline off
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 12: in those games. So he has a quarterback is going
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 12: to have to settle that issue. But you asked me
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 12: about whether he would have taken back I'll just you
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 12: know what, I'll quote what I think Don James. I
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 12: can speak for Don James, arrest his soul, but I
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 12: don't think he'd take him back. And so and I
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 12: think that there would be a leadership component that would
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 12: strengthen the fabric of the team that would have way
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 12: more tan or less tangible ways, but would be very real.
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  Speaker 12: And so yeah, no answers.
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  Speaker 8: No.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Here Melani is with us x's and o's brought
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  Speaker 4: to you by frost brewed corpse light. The mountain turned
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 4: blue at forty two degrees. And I don't mean to
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 4: make a left turn on you right here, but you know,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 4: Seahawks also a huge topic this week and our remaining
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 4: time with you here on this Football Friday, I'd like
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 4: to get your thoughts on what's been a big topic
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 4: of ours this week, whether or not the Seahawks are
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 4: peaking right now and peaking at the right time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 12: Well, I look at the football team in five phases.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 12: How you run the ball, how you throw it, how
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 12: you defend the run, how you defend the past. And
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 12: then special teams, all right, so special teams and how
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 12: they defend the run have been There's no peaking. They've
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 12: been awesome all through the year, all right, So now
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 12: let's let's talk about the past defense.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: The past defense.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 12: They have been great all year except for these two blips,
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 12: right the Tampa Bay game and the RAM game. Seattle
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 12: is number two in the NFL in opponent net yards
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 12: per Trust me, there's a very high correlation there. Seattle's
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  Speaker 12: number two to Denver. If you take out the two
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 12: worst games for Seattle, they go from five point five
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 12: yards to four point eight. They have a point seven drop.
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  Speaker 12: You take the two worse for Denver, which weren't nearly
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 12: as bad as Seattle's, they only have a point four drop.
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  Speaker 1: So so you've.
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  Speaker 12: Got these these aberrations in the past defense. So the
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 12: RAM game was recent. I think that Mike McDonald knows
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 12: what happened. If they have to play the Rams again,
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  Speaker 12: I think they're gonna be substantially better. So I'll say
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 12: that they are. You want to say they're peaking, I
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 12: think they've been great. Other than those two games, the
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 12: run game. They the last three weeks, the Seahawks have
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 12: five hundred and fourteen yards in the last three games,
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 12: that if you take all the three game at any
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 12: point during the season, starting in Week three, you could say,
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 12: what's how many yards have we had in our most
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 12: recent three right? And we've been able to do that
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 12: since Week three? Does that make sense? The average that
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 12: at any point in the Seahawks that they could say
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 12: is we have rushed for three hundred and fifty four
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 12: yards in our last three games. That's what they've been
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 12: able to say that prior to those excuse me, for
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 12: the entire season, the second best three game stretch was
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 12: four hundred and forty seven and to repeat the last
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 12: three weeks, five hundred and fourteen yards the best three
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 12: game stretch. So I think that they're peaking in the
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 12: running game. Here's the part that concerns me, and I'll
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 12: wrap it on the pass offense.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: Passes.
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  Speaker 12: We talked yesterday about Sam Donald's dizzying completion percentage when
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 12: the ball is thirty yards or more. In the year,
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 12: Russell Wilson for his career was thirty six percent completion.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 12: Sam Donald this year is fifty seven percent. The second
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 12: best is forty two percent, and the average is twenty
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 12: four percent. That's how good he is throwing the ball.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 12: Thirty yards or more down the field, just just an absolute.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: Sniper in.
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  Speaker 12: Air in the weeks one through twelve in that capacity
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 12: again and balls over thirty yards Seattle or the I'm
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 12: gonna go with the NFL averages nineteen yards per game
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 12: for the entire sities. Nineteen yards per game on balls
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 12: that travel thirty yards of more.
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  Speaker 1: Got me.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 12: Second place in that stretch is forty one yards. Seattle
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 12: was number one at sixty yards, like fifty percent more
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 12: than second place. That's how their long game was working
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 12: in weeks one through twelve. In the last six weeks,
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 12: zero zero, not just zero yards, zero attempts, and so
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 12: the long ball has dried up. So if we're talking
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 12: about peaking five phases, two have been great throughout, run
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 12: defense and special teams. One has been great throughout other
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 12: than two little blips. That's the pass defense. One is
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 12: clearly peaking. The run offense. I would say the pass offense.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 12: While there's been some efficiency things, I could you could
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 12: argue they're peaking or at least stable, the big play
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 12: is there's no way you can argue that the big
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 12: play is peaking. In fact, the big play has diminished
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 12: and it's got to come back.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: Better find it.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're going to need that against the
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 4: last competition in the world.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 12: And by the way, the correlation of thirty yard complete
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 12: completions with the ball over thirty yard five sixty five,
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 12: that's pretty damn high, really damn high. And there has
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 12: never been an offense in football. I would pose it
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 12: that that is successful throwing the ball deep down the
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 12: field and hasn't had that affect other aspects, whether it's
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 12: your short passing, whether it's your run. If you're successful
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 12: with the deep pass, that is going to impact other
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 12: areas favorably for your offense, You're.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 4: The man, great stuff as always really appreciate it coming down.
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  Speaker 1: Coach Holmgren now joins us here on Chuck and Buck.
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  Speaker 10: Good morning, sir, Good morning, good morning.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: Are you ready for some playoff football?
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 8: Yes?
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 11: I am.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. There's something change in your pulse. Does it quicken?
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, you live this life, It something like natural
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 4: just cosmically take over for you at the stage in
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 4: the calendar.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 11: Well, I would say it does, but as I've gotten older,
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 11: it's less and less. But I still love the games.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 11: And boy, I remember when we'd have to prepare for
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 11: this and we got into the playoffs and it's an
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 11: exciting time for these guys. It really is.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's got to be exciting, and yet to some
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 6: degree probably chomping at the bit with the fact that
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 6: they just are going to sit back and watch it,
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 6: and obviously they want that buy. And yet what is
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 6: the feeling when you have a team that was playing
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 6: is playing good football, and yet now they have to
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 6: just sit back there and they don't get to go
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 6: out there and kind of smack somebody for the weekend.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 11: Well, there's a little of that buck, but I think
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 11: more than that, it's excuse me, the getting healthy and
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 11: the little things that you can overcome and your week
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 11: of rest, so to speak, and so that they're really
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 11: ready to play the following week. What happens is, though
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 11: you're watching the games, who's gonna win? You you know
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 11: the teams that are playing, you played most of them
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 11: already anyway, and then who's gonna win? And that's that's
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 11: the kind of the little bit of the exciting part.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 11: And then when those games are over this weekend, now
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 11: they get in and and and this is, okay, this
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 11: is what we got to do against this team. And so,
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 11: but prior to that, they're they're kind of getting in there,
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 11: having fun, guessing and looking but then it gets serious.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 4: Monday, Mike Holmgren is with us. We had Mike McDonald
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 4: on earlier in the show. So yeah, so Mike Homer
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 4: and Mike McDonald, Big show, little show.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Anyway, I asked.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 4: Him about having the bye week, coach, and he actually
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 4: sounded like, I don't really know exactly how.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: To handle this bye week.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, you got a potential for four different teams
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 4: that you could face the next week in your first round.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 4: How did you handle it when you had that bye week?
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 4: I'm assuming you had it at some point in your career,
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 4: and probably multiple times in your career.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: Did you do a.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 4: Little preparing for all four or did you just prepare
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 4: your own team and then wait till the results.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 11: I think what we did, looking back on it, we
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 11: prepared our own team and then waited for the results.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 11: But also you add a little bit here, a little
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 11: bit here, a little bit here, based on who you
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 11: might play. But you give your best estimate on who's
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 11: going to win the football games, you know, and I
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 11: think everyone does that, and then but you can't shove
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 11: in too much. I think I told you the story
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 11: this week that we did that in San Francisco when
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 11: I was an assistant coach, and we just power practiced
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 11: against two teams we thought were going to be in it.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 11: And then we played Minnesota and they beat us, and
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 11: they shouldn't have beat us. We were a better football team,
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 11: but that we didn't play very well. We'd kind of
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 11: exhausted ourselves in the practice and the preparation I felt,
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 11: and so did Coach Walsh after the fact, you know,
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 11: So that taught me a lot, at least I based
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 11: how I practiced on not doing that and then wait,
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 11: you got to wait until Monday, and then you crank
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 11: it up.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: Coach.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 6: We were just talking to Hugh and he was talking
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 6: about how some of the big plays down the field
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 6: have dried up, and I don't know if that's you know,
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 6: on the heels or since the four interception game, and
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 6: the thing that we've talked about at length about you
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 6: don't we got to be careful about clipping the wings
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 6: of a guy because you will also lose some of
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 6: the potency of the downfield attack.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: Is is that something that you.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 6: See that needs to come back or is it just
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 6: you know, depending on the situation, the scoreboard at the
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 6: time of the game, all that that you're going to
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 6: take your shots or is it something you would make
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 6: a concerted effort to make sure you're getting back in
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 6: the system.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 11: I think i'd make a conserved effort. You know, they
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 11: have they have people heat and and and and uh
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 11: and Jinguma who can make those plays down the field. Also,
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 11: your tight ends. Their tight ends has shown that they
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 11: can catch. So if too much defense is against the
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 11: wide outs, that opens up a lot of stuff down
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 11: the middle of the field for the tight end and
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 11: what you would call big plays. So I don't think
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 11: it's a concerted effort to just tone things down. But
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 11: at the same time, I know what you said and
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 11: I experienced the same thing, But I think now it's
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 11: cut at loose time. Is that you're going, yeah, you're
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 11: gonna see some shots down the field?
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 7: I bet on it.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 4: I mean everybody's talking about this turnover issue. We've talked
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 4: about it with you many times, and when your defense
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 4: is playing this well, I mean, do you kind of
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 4: force yourself into thinking that, man, we need to be
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 4: a little more conservative heading in here, because the only
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 4: thing that might trip us up our turnovers.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 11: You know, that makes sense, But I don't think that's
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 11: the way it is, Okay. You know, I think if
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 11: you're an offensive if you're an offensive play caller or
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 11: in charge of the offense, you want to move the ball,
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 11: you want to score points. You're not thinking so much
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 11: the other way. I remember, you know, Friz Sherman, who
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 11: was a great defensive guy, and he was my defensive.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 7: Coordinator in Green Bay.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 11: Before every game, I go up to him and say
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 11: how many points do we need today? And it became
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 11: kind of a joke, but I do it, and he'd
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 11: always say the same thing. He goes, I think you
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 11: should score forty, and I'm going what It just jarred
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 11: me for just a second. Then he'd smile. I said, oh, okay,
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 11: you're kidding, aren't you. Yeah, okay, I got it.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 4: I have a feeling that if Clint Kubiak went up
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 4: to Mike McDonald right now, he might say how many
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 4: points do you need today?
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: And Mike be like three.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: I think that's how confidence he is right now.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 11: Yeah, thirteen, thirteen will be plenty.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: We'll win by double figures.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 11: How many games do you win win you score thirteen points?
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 11: I mean, come on, you know, but I understand Mike
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 11: was on your show this morning, wasn't he Yes, yeah,
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 11: you know, did he tip off anything?
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he told us the whole game plan, said he
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 4: wants to face the forty nine ers again.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: No, no he didn't. I mean, yeah, he was. He
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: was great. He was great.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 4: No, he didn't really have many secrets, but he also
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 4: gave us a lot of good information.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 7: I'd say, yeah, yeah, he's he's.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 11: You know, he's a fine coach. And it's done a
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 11: tremendous job this year. And I wish him well in
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 11: the playoffs, and I think they're gonna I think they're
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 11: going to get there. I think they're going to get
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 11: to the Super Bowl.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 6: H This is kind of a funny argument going around
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 6: on Seahawks Twitter or whatever. Is the idea of, Okay,
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 6: the Rams. We've seen the two games against the Rams.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 6: You won one, you lost one, maybe out played them
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 6: and lost and got out played and won whatever. It
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 6: seems like there could be a collision course where those
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 6: two teams are meeting. You brought up just the idea
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 6: that in certain a certain world or a certain universe,
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 6: you might want to play them in the first week
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 6: or I guess in the divisional divisional round next week,
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 6: having you you being rested as healthy as you could
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 6: possibly be, them having to go through already one game
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 6: and trying to recover from that. Would you rather see
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 6: them if there was a colision? Course, inevitably, would you
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 6: rather see them the first game that that you're you're
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 6: having to play in the playoffs? Or would you rather
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 6: them still have to make it through somebody else? Well,
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 6: you have to make it through somebody else as well.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 11: I think I want them, I think to uh to
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 11: see them later. That means I won a game. They
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 11: won a game, you know, but that means we're that
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 11: much closer to the super Bowl, And eventually, I think,
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 11: excuse me, they're going to have to play each other.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 11: That's what's going to happen, and then we see we'll
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 11: see another great football game because both teams are good,
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 11: both teams have great coaching. Yeah, it's going to be
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 11: but you know, we have the home field advantage, which
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 11: is a huge advantage.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: I think Mike Hombron is with us right here on
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: Chuck and Buck. I don't know.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 4: These are just things that I fantasize about when I
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 4: think about Mike Holmbren's house. I have a feeling you've
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 4: got like a separate room that's just for the playoffs.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 4: Like the TV's just a little bit better, and the
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 4: recliners just a little bit softer, you know, a little
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 4: more broken in, and the snacks are just a little
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 4: bit better.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 4: You tell me, do you have any any kind of
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 4: special plan as the playoffs get underway here?
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 11: Well, it's a funny thing. You should mention that, Chuck,
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 11: because my plan is, like when I look at the
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 11: games anyway, is that the actual room we have, which
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 11: is very nice. It's in a family room, but that
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 11: has the larger TV set and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 11: But that's where Kathy reads and takes her naps, And
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 11: so I am delegated to the office, which is much smaller,
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 11: but the TV is smaller. I have to sit closer
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 11: to the TV, and but I've got my books in there.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 11: And that's how.
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  Speaker 7: That's how we do it.
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  Speaker 11: Now are we going to do it differently?
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  Speaker 8: Now?
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  Speaker 11: I'm going to propose that idea and say, you know,
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  Speaker 11: my friends and k you know, Chuck and Buck said
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  Speaker 11: we should have the big TV. Yeah, you know, on Monday,
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  Speaker 11: I'll let you know on Monday.
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  Speaker 8: How that worked out.
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  Speaker 1: Chuck said it. I don't get me involved in that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, if you could leave our names out,
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  Speaker 4: that's fine. But I do think you ought to tell
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  Speaker 4: her like, hey, wow, playoff time.
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  Speaker 1: It's big TV time, big time.
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  Speaker 11: The one thing I don't have to move like you would.
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  Speaker 11: You don't have to move the Christmas I don't have
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  Speaker 11: to move to Christmas Tree.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, gach.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't use the phrase you can take a
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  Speaker 4: nap anywhere, but I would try to know. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 4: would try to get the big TV for some playoff viewing,
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  Speaker 4: but I'll leave.
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  Speaker 1: That to you, Okay. I don't want to cause a rift,
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  Speaker 1: all right, I will drop your name.
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  Speaker 11: I absolutely am going to drop your name.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Christmas Tree guy.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks, thanks this all right, Well, enjoy your weekend and
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  Speaker 4: we'll talk to you on Monday.
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  Speaker 11: All right, See you guys, have a good one, all right.
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