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NFL Sunday Wild Card Slate | Start/Sit, DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  All system's going clear the leftop. What's up everyone? Tyler Tamberline here aka
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  Totag and Tambo back for another edition. It's a playoff edition, three game
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  slate of the wild Card weekend, not on the Super wild Card weekend.
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  We ain't doing that over here, so you're just joining us. Hit that
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  like button on the way in. Subscribe to the channel here on the Male
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  Media Network. We've been here all season. We'll be back for the rest
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  of the playoff slates as well. Sunday's nine forty five am Eastern. The
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  same crew. You know what expect. Got Hoops to here with me.
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  Got title and I'm a follower today, not a leader. Title. Came
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  in nice gear on I said, Oh, I got to go put mine
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  on too. I missed my squad. So Hoops rocking a dak jersey on
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  the same day. He's going to the Lions game tonight to watch his team,
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  which, if you guys remember and have watched all season, I told
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  who this is where his team would exit, So we'll see how it goes
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  tonight. He told me they were super Bowl bound. We will see,
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  but I'll let Hoops to come in. On that note, Hoop what's going
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  on? Man, It's gonna be a fun Sunday here. I was a
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  little torn with the wardrobe this morning. I mean the dak jersey. The
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  dark situation has treated us very very well all season long, and first round
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  of the playoffs here we fall into the same situation that we've printed on all
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  season long. So that's interesting. And I got the jersey when not my
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  Lions home playoff game first time in like thirty years, heading down to the
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  game later, super excited about that. So keep a close eye on hoopscreen
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  because you might see some things shifting as the as the show goes on.
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  But this is a good slate. I'm glad that they kept that the skill
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  and bills on the slates. We have three games. It makes a huge
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  difference in terms of some of these contests and what you do and even how
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  you go about building your teams. It is it's wild to think, but
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  just going from two to three is a massive difference. It kind of touched
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  on a little bit yesterday when we did the two game show, but the
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  third game adds a big dynamic. It's a day later, gives people the
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  opportunity to make some potential swaps I think that Bill Steelers game goes, you
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  know, pretty much unowned. But I mean there's no pieces in that game
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  that'll have substantial ownership. Maybe one that we'll talk about when we get to
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  that position, but yeah, it's a fun one looking forward to it.
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  I mean, you got the big totals. We got a fifty one total
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  in Dallas, a fifty three total in Detroit, and then a small one
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  in Buffalo sitting at like thirty eight, which means ownership again, like I
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  said, it's going to be low there. So looking forward to the slate,
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  looking forward to breaking this down and should be the last like three games
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  slate of the season. Really, everything else is going to be two from
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  here on out. Two or one. Yeah, that's though. I was
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  glad they kept it. We get one more, one more three gamer like
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  this shut out to super who first in today, you're gonna give shout up
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  to the first in always super Who have got in here early. So I
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  appreciate you everybody else that's joining us, and you know it's gonna be a
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  good day right here. Where's it at? Our guys slap right in here,
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  always picking on him, but man, the guy's here today. He
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  won't be asking any questions in the discord because he's here to get the info
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  directly from us. So we appreciate you, slap. We appreciate everybody else
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  out there with us title. Bring you in, you got you know,
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  you said you're happy to be there. Got these Green Bay Packers in the
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  mix, but might be going overlook today, Jordan Love has been on fire,
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  especially from a DFS perspective. We'll get to that when we go to
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  quarterback. But talk to me, man, what's going on on this Sunday?
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  How you doing? Yeah? Doing great? It's it's a pleasant surprise
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  if you asked eight weeks ago, like when you guys are joking Lions,
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  Ravens and I think my Packers would be in this situation, hey Hoop said
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  when we got on a little talking pre show, He's like, do you
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  think your Packers have a chance? My response, anytime Big MIC's on the
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  other side, anybody's got a chance. So I'm very excited. I think
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  they do have a chance. As far as I mean, it could definitely
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  like yesterday with the Browns game, but I do think the Packers can hang
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  in, score some points and we'll get there. In terms of DFS,
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  But yeah, I think it's very concentrated. I like what the sites did.
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  Like Hoop mentioned, bringing the Bill Steelers game still on the main slate,
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  FANDU actually has all four games Philly and Tampa on THEIRS as well,
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  which is interesting. But these first two games today fifty total, fifty and
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  a half fifty two, like Hoops, had way more appealing than these other
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  two games with them being in a dome. So even though the Bills are
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  on that main draft Kings slate, Philly Tampa's also on FanDuel slate, you're
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  gonna see very heavily concentrated ownership on these first two games. But great slate,
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  very excited for playoff football. Always good time. Yeah, we're gonna
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  break it through. We're gonna go to our projections again, just like Hoop
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  and I did yesterday. I think it's the best way to break this down.
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  We got some really good ideas up on the screen. I saw a
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  couple of members have some big days. One I know who you had a
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  close call in the MILLI maker coming like twenty fourth or nineteenth, Yeah,
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  coming there. Somebody else came. I believe it was fifth or ninth.
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  I think it might have been ninth for five thousand, but it was a
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  big day for some of the members. And just real quick before I go
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  to you, Hoop, here the note the title just made our slate plan
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  from our guy Hamwich, who helped me win over two hundred thousand this season
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  Mayo to get timbercent off. There, Hoop, you had a run in
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  the Millionmaker last night. Talk about that. I'll pull up the solver here.
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  Yeah, I had a team late in that game. It got up
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  to nineteenth place, had three guys go in, had Pachuco, had Rice,
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  who you needed essentially yesterday, and then Kelsey, so snitall a little
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  push for on Pachecko or Kelsey got that touchdown obviously late on Pachecko that that
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  put me up into the like is nineteen or eighteen. Just needed a little
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  bit more from Pachecko. But I had all the right guys from that first
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  game, and then it was kind of a chief's stack in the second game.
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  And you know, the one thing that we talked about on the show
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  yesterday on that two game slate is just taking stands against things, and that
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  was more what the success was about. Yesterday. The spot for Miami was
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  brutal. We talked about the only guy that we really thought that could get
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  there on the Miami side was Tyreek, and that was the case. He's
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  the only one that kind of did anything. The rest of the team was
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  the disaster. I ended up fading Tua, which you know I touched on
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  a little bit on the show, but in the in the content it was
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  reflected in that and then did not have any Wattle did not and I did
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  have Smyth. So it was like smythe a little bit. I think I
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  had ten percent of Smythe and then I had like thirty right around the field
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  on Tyreek, and then I faded everything else. So gave me many more
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  routes to the because I just xed out a lot of players, whereas the
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  field, even top end players like wan't x guys out, though they'll keep
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  a little bit in their pool. That was the reason I had the success
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  yesterday. It was just taking stands against that spot of the Miami spot,
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  which we felt, we agreed that was a really bad spot for Miami,
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  and it ended up being true. They only scored seven points and could do
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  absolutely nothing when they had the football. Yeah, you talked without that heavy,
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  the weather just being in the favor of the Kansas City side, and
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  most certainly one just absolutely owned them crushed throughout the day. May I'll just
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  threw it up just a remind you guys, this is rake free. You
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  can go play. It's a three max. It's fifteen dollars entry. You
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  can throw one, you could throw two, you can throw three, whatever
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  you want. But the link is in the chat. Should definitely go join
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  that anytime there's a no rate contest out there. You want to fill it
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  out, we'll throw it in the discord right after the show as well if
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  there's still spots available. So go get in there now. If you can
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  title any extra thoughts from yesterday before we get into this quarterback position, and
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  then you saw yesterday to bring across the next week. No really, I
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  mean, man, Texas just really impressed, abolutely jumped on Cleveland. That
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  game was over pretty quickly. And then the second game, Yeah, weather
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  played a factor, I guess, but they still slung the ball. I
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  saw something on Twitter which is really interesting. It was just I don't know
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  if you guys saw a sneak peek of Tom Brady and Bill Belichick talking.
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  I think it was like two thousand and nine, a really cold game,
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  kind of similar to that, and like, at least my mind and a
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  lot of people's mind was like, all, like, passing is gonna be
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  really tough, et cetera. Tom was like, this is the this is
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  the dream for a quarterback. Whether Belichick was saying like it's hard to run
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  block like, offensive line can't get off the ball. Defense, the lineman
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  or the line or the deep pass rushers can't get off the ball and pass
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  rush you have all day back there. My mind never worked like that,
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  and it's very interesting listening to those people like that. Like the rain stuff,
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  we always talk about it. A lot of people always say, oh,
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  it favors the defense. You can't do anything where the offense knows where
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  they're running in the routes and stuff like that. I didn't really think of
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  that in like negative five degree weather until I saw that video and kind of
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  played out. I mean, both teams were slaying it kind of like normal.
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  Not that they were efficient by any means, but little stuff like that.
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  I thought that was an interesting tidbit from Belichick and Brady too. The
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  best and the one thing I noticed for sure, like you could tell those
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  Miami defenders they didn't want to go in there for those big hits, Like
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  they laid off a ton because it hurts like that cold weather. Like,
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  man, it hurts when when you go in there and you you know,
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  lay out and try to tackle someone. It was onlike the Mahomes run where
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  he almost scored, he got down to like the three, Like the defenders
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  were like just laying off. They did not want to go in for like
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  the big hits. And a lot of players. Edwards Hilaire had a couple
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  of runs where he just kept pushing the pile like no one wanted to make
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  the big kept going. They couldn't pull him down. I saw that too.
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  We did call I mean, Mahomes ran for a bunch more, he
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  ran for over forty. We talked about that being a thing talked about.
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  Man, it looks like Kelsey could have like twelve catches or something. It
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  felt like I don't even know how many targets he ended up with, but
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  it felt like he dropped more than he caught, and he still caught quite
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  a few balls for over seventy. So it was just that chip chop over
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  the middle type thing is what you saw kind of all day. That's just
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  something to take. No great tidbit over there that you brought in, obviously
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  from Belichick, one of the best retiring or while I guess not retiring.
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  We moving on from New England this week, and then obviously Brady who's retired
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  as well. So you just look at it from that perspective. Anybody talking
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  like that, you're always gonna listen, let's move on, let's talk about
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  this slate, Let's get into it. Hoop we've got quarterback, and I'm
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  starting with you because you're rocking the jersey. It's been a business decision for
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  you all season, and I think a good one. Talk to me about
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  Dak Prescott and then the rest of these quarterbacks and how it shapes up for
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  the entire slate. You mentioned a little off the top about how Josh Allen
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  might just go completely overlooked, and that's kind of interesting, but I think
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  you'll want to talk about Dak and your guy Goff a little bit more.
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  Yeah, I mean it's going to be a business decision again for me today.
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  Obviously we're in the jersey. That means you know, he'll be in
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  a lot of my lineups today, and it just makes sense. This is
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  a situation that we've capitalized on all season long, and there's just so many
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  reasons why, you know, I like that today he's going to be And
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  I guess the one thing is it's a little bit different than the full slates
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  where you've capitalized or the showdown. So he is going to be pretty popular,
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  to be the most popular quarterback on the slate, but they're we do
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  have three games, so it will get spread out a little bit more easy
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  to get overweight. But it's just to me the best spot on the slate
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  by a pretty wide margin. They've been this offense has been much more productive
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  at home. They're at home in the Dome. They have a fifty one
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  total, their team total sitting at twenty nine, and they're favored by seven.
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  And again it's gonna be the same situation as we've see in all season.
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  It's going to be Tony Pollard that gets a big, big chunk of
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  ownership. Today. The price is sixty one hundred. I like Pollard as
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  well. We'll get to that when we talk running backs. But the spot
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  for Dak is phenomenal at home here a lot of people looking to go to
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  Pollard. If they go to Pollard, maybe they don't go to Dak.
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  You compare Dack up with Ceedee Lamb. The connection has been, I mean
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  phenomenal, probably the best in the league. You know, quarterback wide receiver
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  combo this season, good connection with Brandon Cooks. He continues to get Gallup
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  decent looks and he does nothing with it. And then he has the tight
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  end in Ferguson. So a lot of different ways to go. I want
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  to be very heavy on DAK today, and I have to make the change
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  now because we've got the got the Lions game and I have to support the
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  Lions. So the jersey is coming off now that the DAK conversation is over.
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  Switching after the man, he just pulls them right off. Man,
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  it's still going to hang in the office for the day. Don't worry,
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  It's not going anywhere. But we have to switch over to support the Lions
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  today. In terms of other quarterbacks on the slate, Josh Allen, I
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  think again, interesting play here because people are going to kind of be off
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  that last game that we talked about. The ownership is very low. The
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  fact that they switched from today to tomorrow. The total came up, I
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  believe like four or five points. I think it came back down a little
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  bit more, but the Bills are still projected to score twenty four points.
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  If no one wants to play Josh Allen, I'll make sure I get some
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  Josh Allen. Just too many different ways to get there. I mean he
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  can get there on the ground, obviously, you can get there throwing,
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  you know the risk. I think that people see it and people really have
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  that game in their head against the Cowboys where they just ran every single play
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  to James Cook in the second half, and ever since then, people are
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  kind of afraid to play Josh Allen on a three game slate. I'm in
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  on Josh Allen. I mean, there's an easy path for him to be
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  the highest scoring quarterback on the slate, a couple rushing touchdowns, passing stuff
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  on Diggs is cheap. Who will talk about when we get there is a
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  cheap wide receiver and Shakir that I think is a solid option. So no
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  one wants to play Josh Allen. I'm in on it for sure. We
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  have the Lions game golf stafford highest total on the slate, and both guys
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  have a lot of pass catchers that they can kind of throw the ball to
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  a mon Ros Saint Bron Jamison Williams. We'll talk about him at wide receiver.
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  It looks like Laporta is gonna play, which is a boost to golf.
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  And with Laporta in I don't necessarily think he's one hundred percent, but
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  even if he's like eighty or ninety, that's definitely a boost for Jared Goff.
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  I mean, you go from throwing the ball to Laporta instead of like
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  brock Right, Like there's a massive drop off if it's brock Right not Laporta.
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  The quarterbacks in Detroit are certainly in the conversation. Looks like pretty similar
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  ownership between the two. Yeah, I like both. And then you know,
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  Mason Rudolph should probably you'll probably get no ownership. I mean, I'm
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  not not going there at all. I guess its gonna get maybe like a
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  little bit, maybe a couple percentage points or something because people play every tend
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  to play every quarterback, but that will just be a cross off. And
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  then Jordan love Kiosk, you guys take on him because he's the one guy
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  that I'm not sure what I'm gonna do with. And he also could get
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  a nice little bose because it sounds like Christian Watson Watson has a chance to
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  play today, which we'll get that news because that is the first game on
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  the slate. So it's Dak Dak one for sure for me. And then
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  my favorite like leverage quarterback for sure is going to be Josh Allen up there
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  at the top. And we have enough cheap options to make it work with
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  those expensive quarterbacks today, So that's kind of where I'm at quarterback position.
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  But I really want to hear you guys have to say about Jordan Love because
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  I'm kind of undecided with him at this point. Yeah, I let title
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  talk about Jordan Love. But before we do that, just Dak Prescott Lamb
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  hoop. If you look at it on the screen here right away, you're
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  down to four point ak. So like, what type of options are you
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  comfortable moving? And you talked about like cooks for example, but the mini
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  plug him in, you're still sitting at four point ak. You got to
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  get two running backs, wide receiver tight. I mean you're gonna have to
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  really bost this thing up with some cheap value plays. I'm sure we'll talk
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  about them later, but what are the common pairings you're seeing with your Dak
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  Prescott lineux right now? Yes, I mean if you do the Dak Lamb
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  stuff, you're immediately you're immediately down. Like you said, you're searching for
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  value right out of the gate, and I think the best spot to go,
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  well, there's two spots. Obviously, you can go to some of
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  these wide receivers, and then there's cheap tight ends on the slate as well.
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  So in terms of the cheap wide receivers that we have. If you
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  want a double stack, I'd be fine going to a guy like Gallup at
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  thirty one hundred. If you want to go dak CD, you can play
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  Gallop at thirty one. Again, it has not been great for Gallop,
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  but I mean he's getting high leverage. Looks like they're getting them red zone
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  targets. Like. It hasn't worked out for him this season, there's no
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  doubt about it. But on a three game slate, just one play,
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  that's all you need. You have Shakir, I think, is a solid
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  cheap option at wide receiver if you want to get some value. We have
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  Jamison Williams, who at thirty five hundred. I'm not saying like they saved
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  him for the playoffs, but he's going to be out there way more today
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  than he probably has at any point in the season. I mean, Jamison
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  Williams is going to be a good wide receiver in this league. And then
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  obviously we have tight ends that we can play for cheap. In that same
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  game of Tucker Craft at thirty three hundred, HIGB thirty four hundred, so
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  you can always do that. You can play double tight end, double tight
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  end super viable on these three games slates, and a lot of people always
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  ask that question, can you play double ted end? You certainly can.
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  But to answer your question, you have the dak CD stuff. You're immediately
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  searching for value on the slate, and I guess all these running backs are
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  relatively cheap too. I mean you can get multiple running backs six mid six
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  k below. Yeah, we'll go there in a second. I'll a title
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  takeover and title. That's why I flipped it on the screen. Like the
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  opposite side of this game. You can get some excitement around love and I
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  know some people struggle. They have struggled, I will say all season for
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  some reason to get excited about this guy. But I've been screaming it for
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  weeks, like if you went back, it was back here when I remember
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  being on shows with Mayo talking about twenty four, twenty seven, twenty three,
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  nineteen, Like what don't you like about this guy? As he was
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  always priced around six thousand. If you want to get Lamb in this way,
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  I think it's kind of interesting. Now we will get the news on
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  Watson, right, that'd be awesome. They get him back. That's another
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  weapon for them and he's cheap as well. But even as it stands right
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  now, if you had something like Love read Tucker Kraft flip the build still
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  get to Lamb. You have now three hundred dollars more per position, and
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  you filled out an extra spot in the same game with just a seven point
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  spread. You said it, McCarthy on the other side can make mistakes.
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  Love has been just fine. So I'm very curious, and we know Musgrave
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  is back. We'll talk about tight end when we get there. Just leave
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  it with that for now, but title talk to me about Jordan Love first
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  and then talk about quarterback position as a whole. Yeah, for every reason
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  you said I have interest. Hey, I mean he's been balling as of
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  Wait, and you look at this game. I think if the Fackers do
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  stay in it or they win like cowboys are gonna put up points. It's
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  in a dome. I think it'd be a track meet. Love's been playing
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  very well. They're very cheap. If you go Dak, people go Dak
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  ceedee Lamb. Like you just had this Flip's roster construction. You can also
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  take it from the standpoint kind of like hoop matching with Pollard. Aaron Jones
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  is going to be one of the most popular running backs. Hey players on
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  this late, especially running backs, you can totally play him with Jordan Love.
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  But also if you want to try and fade someone popular, Jones doesn't
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  get those goal line touchdowns whatever it may be, doesn't catch as many passes,
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  and it's all on Love shoulders. You can get a big bump up
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  there as well. So and yeah, Muskray being back, it's Tucker Craft
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  that's going to be tangling most of the work. Some two tight end SATs.
• 18:42
  Musgrave will be out there, but definitely like Tucker Kraft and he'd be
• 18:47
  in a lot of my Jordan Love parents for sure. Watson news is interesting.
• 18:51
  I mean, I love the Tavian Wicks regardless, Like the dude is
• 18:53
  good. Love likes some dods. Is going to be low owned Jayden Reid.
• 18:57
  That's the one thing that's tough with the Love because you need to get
• 19:00
  the right pass catchers right, but their ownership's all going to be in check
• 19:04
  as well. It's going to be a low on stack. When talking to
• 19:07
  three games late with a fifty total in the dumb So yeah, I'm on
• 19:10
  some Green Bay stuff. They comparing him right to Stafford. I mean,
• 19:15
  he hasn't shown it as of late, but Love does have some mobility,
• 19:18
  some legs. You pretty much need the three hundred yard bonus, feels like
• 19:22
  from Stafford to get to the optimal especially with quarterback being loaded this week.
• 19:26
  This props like two seventy. I don't know. I think I prefer Love
• 19:30
  just a little bit. It's not I like a lot of these quarterbacks,
• 19:32
  So Mason Rudolph easiest X on this late it's probably gonna be the most condensed,
• 19:37
  or it's gonna be very close. These quarterback ownership spread out, I
• 19:41
  wouldn't be surprised if no one gets over thirty five percent, thirty percent something
• 19:47
  like that. Like the Act's probably the highest zone. Golf six point two
• 19:49
  k is really cheap. They'll probably be the second highest zone, and Stafford
• 19:53
  Love Josh all kind of gets some after that. Rudolph definitely my least favorite.
• 20:00
  I don't know. I've been debating the Josh stuff looking at the total.
• 20:03
  He's minus one twenty to score on the ground, which he definitely needs
• 20:06
  to do. If he gets two touchdowns on the ground. It's nice,
• 20:08
  but I have a problem pairing him with people like I don't really like run
• 20:11
  naked quarterbacks, and Diggs has been so bad. Jakiro will be popular,
• 20:15
  so you can kind of go that route or at least the most popular bill.
• 20:18
  But the acting k they have knocks, there's just so many guys there.
• 20:22
  I think he is my fourth favorite or fifth favorite on the list.
• 20:26
  Definitely playing dak I mean, he's probably gonna carve up these packers. That's
• 20:30
  why I like love, because they're gonna have to play from behind and sling
• 20:32
  it. Stafford golf in a dome, both revenge narratives, both can easily
• 20:37
  throw forever three hundred yards Detroit Pass funnel. Like. I love those guys
• 20:41
  as well. So yeah, I'm not gonna be like I'm definitely playing.
• 20:44
  I'mm me some stuff. I'm probably gonna in twenty entry or less. I'll
• 20:48
  probably gonna x Josh and Rudolph and then mix and match those four and then
• 20:53
  higher or like more lineups. I'll get to some Josh. I don't know.
• 20:56
  It's tough though, like all four of these, Stafford Love, Scott,
• 21:00
  Jared Goff, I can totally see breaking the slate. I could see
• 21:03
  all of them putting up over twenty plus and it's just what combinations and what
• 21:07
  pass catchers do you get? Right? But the more we talk through it,
• 21:10
  I think love at the ownership, the pass catching and if you want
• 21:14
  to get away from chalk Aaron Jones, there's so many routes to go with
• 21:17
  love, and so cheap can lead money on the table, et cetera.
• 21:21
  I really do like the love. So what if? What if? What
• 21:22
  if I told you guys like Josh Allen comes in at like six percent out
• 21:30
  right, which I think it's I think it's I think it's in the realm
• 21:33
  of possibilities, to be honest with you, Yeah, I think because if
• 21:37
  you just blindly run these teams, you're getting no Josh Allen. If you
• 21:40
  look at the total and people are playing it off that that way, you're
• 21:42
  no one's playing Josh Allen like it's a different day, it's a day later.
• 21:47
  People don't want to put themselves in situations where they feel like they have
• 21:49
  to make swaps. I think Josh Allen could come in. It's just like
• 21:53
  super super low ownership. Yeah, don't forget yesterday, right, we did
• 21:56
  the show, but there was no fifty five percent Joe Flacko in the result.
• 22:03
  He's still got to almost nineteen on a very bad day. I'm talking
• 22:06
  about, like, that's not what people expected. They were expecting thirty maybe
• 22:08
  thirty five, and then he jumps to fifty five. We're talking the flagship
• 22:12
  tournament over on DraftKings, So I think that's what you have to remember.
• 22:17
  It could be the case here and then funny like this is the comment shut
• 22:18
  up through. Our guy Sean always out here supporting and appreciate it, but
• 22:22
  his comment is on the opposite side of what you said earlier. Title like
• 22:26
  we just talked about two of the goats walking it through. Should be great
• 22:29
  for Josh Allen and everything that he's got going on. Diggs at seventy four
• 22:32
  hundred, but disrespectful, we'll get there soon. I don't care how bad
• 22:34
  he's been. If the price is just bad, he can definitely get out
• 22:37
  there and do his thing. It's the playoffs. They're gonna try and go
• 22:41
  to their best guys. Here a Shakir super cheap you mentioned but popular.
• 22:45
  That's really I don't really love him as much as a one off just to
• 22:48
  make DAK lineups work. Just to do that, that's a good lineup,
• 22:51
  and it's gonna do well, probably, but I'm saying I want to look
• 22:52
  for ways that I can also get different with it, because I do like
• 22:56
  Shakir with Doe Gabe Davis and then using that slot position up over the middle.
• 23:00
  So I do like putting him in, But how do I get different
• 23:02
  with it? And that's the way to play Josh. Plus he can run
• 23:04
  one in like you said, minus one twenty to score. But real quick,
• 23:07
  for me, this is about six thousand bucks left on the table if
• 23:11
  you went to Watson, even if you go to read. But I think
• 23:14
  everyone's gonna do and feel more comfortable with even if we get the Watson news.
• 23:18
  Watson's yeah you gotta have. I just realize that, Wow, when
• 23:23
  you scrolled through, I didn't. I guess I didn't look at his price
• 23:26
  tag. One go route and he loses the SAMI again. Yeah, we
• 23:30
  gotta see about like the guys too. Like you said, Wix Melton,
• 23:33
  I actually prefer them more of Well, if Watson's out, I don't want
• 23:37
  to really risk them as much just because we you know, like you said,
• 23:40
  title, you know your team. I like Wix too. I think
• 23:41
  he's talented. But if if Watson's back, I just think they're still gonna
• 23:45
  try and push even if he's a decoy. It becomes the other stuff with
• 23:48
  Red. Don't forget Dobbs. He's the guy that's going lost in the mix,
• 23:51
  and well he's a pain to deal with as well, almost like Pollard
• 23:55
  esk of like you play a guy thinking it's gonna happen. He actually does
• 23:56
  put up touchdowns. He has stuff happening we can see yet. So at
• 24:00
  fifty four hundred just I think three hundred less than Reid you could do that.
• 24:04
  But either way, I want to show this. That's five point seven
• 24:07
  k. You're playing Pollard in that spot because let's say you're not getting to
• 24:11
  the other side, but one that I don't think we spent enough time on.
• 24:12
  I know the other day when I was doing these lineups with Mayo,
• 24:15
  we were talking a lot about golf. That's fine, but the Stafford side
• 24:18
  of this also very comfortable, very easy to stack up, and you could
• 24:23
  start doing stuff like this is the same price as ced Lamb or sorry as
• 24:29
  Dak with ceed Lamb and then one of Brandon Cooks or Ferguson and you still
• 24:34
  need to fill out an extra spot versus I can wrap up a three to
• 24:38
  one in a big total game in the second game when we get there anyway,
• 24:41
  going through position by position, we'll work it all in of getting something
• 24:45
  like this and still having the same money left over. But then if you
• 24:48
  want to go down here, I like couple guys, I like Josh Reynolds.
• 24:52
  That gets me back to the same. So let me ask you this
• 24:56
  title real quick. I think it's almost the same price, so it's close
• 24:59
  enough anyway. Yeah, it's almost the same. So a build like this,
• 25:03
  Stafford Nicoua Robinson ask the chat too. Let me hear from the chat
• 25:06
  what side you like Stafford Nkua, Robinson, Williams or love red Craft Pollard,
• 25:14
  four guys from that spot. I'll you go first. Title. What's
• 25:15
  your thoughts? I like this side. Pooka is the man, Jameson Williams
• 25:19
  you've been on for a while. DeMarcus is definitely the receiver. Three.
• 25:23
  I feel better about this because like the reid Craft the stuff with the packers,
• 25:27
  Yeah, reed Craft, all right, it's Watson and Dubbs today,
• 25:30
  or it's Aaron Jones. I love to take it like there's just more mouse
• 25:33
  there and it feels tougher to get right, and Tony Pollard has been awful
• 25:37
  all the time, so I'd go with this one. Yeah, this looks
• 25:41
  better. Who what do you? What do you like on that? You
• 25:42
  go to the Stafford side? Man in locked up with you and you know
• 25:45
  the Stafford stuff I think is very interesting today because it's well, it's the
• 25:49
  easiest to stack. You know who the you know who the guys are like
• 25:52
  he in terms of like the wide receiver duos on this slate, the one
• 25:57
  two, like the Rams have the best one two wide receiver combo on the
• 26:03
  slate, and I don't even think it's really all that close. I mean
• 26:06
  it's you know, Cup and Nikia are phenomenal. So yeah, it definitely
• 26:11
  pushes me to the Stafford side of these decisions for sure. And no matter
• 26:15
  what you like here, like if you don't think it's Josh Allen, you
• 26:18
  don't think it's Dak and you want to do something like this is what I'm
• 26:19
  noticing though. Look at now we're down to nothing. There's tons of tight
• 26:22
  ends on the slate that are fair priced. We know defense is cheap,
• 26:26
  and who cares? Like we are still sitting at five point five K If
• 26:30
  this stack goes off the minute you were on dak CD, you're down to
• 26:33
  you know, basically nothing, and if you add in a third pairing,
• 26:36
  unless it's Gallop or something, you have no money. So just keep that
• 26:38
  in mind when you're building your stuff out, get your stacks in, figure
• 26:42
  out what you're gonna do for the other spots for leverage. If you're not
• 26:45
  on DAK, maybe you're on Pollard. If you're not on DAK or Pollard,
• 26:48
  maybe you're on Ferguson. Like, there's other ways. You don't just
• 26:52
  have to go to that. I'm just showing examples here. But now you're
• 26:55
  up to six k left overly you can almost do whatever you want. But
• 26:57
  that's one of the other key components which will go there in a second.
• 27:00
  Kieran Williams, I think is going to be up there as well today,
• 27:03
  right him and Pollard, probably him, Pollard and Aaron Jones. It looks
• 27:07
  like, yeah, the are we transitioning to running back? We can don't
• 27:14
  don't. I don't know much about more else to add there, except,
• 27:15
  like I said, one quick note, I guess sorry. I will just
• 27:18
  show this off quickly. Because the teams that you just build it is it
• 27:22
  just got a thought in my head, like you think, like if people
• 27:25
  are off this bill stuff, that James Cook would be super popular on this
• 27:29
  late they're saying, all right, we're not playing Josh Allen Stacks. It's
• 27:32
  you know, too expensive, the weather's bah blah blah. You think people
• 27:34
  would just go to James Cook at a super high rate. And that doesn't
• 27:38
  appear to be what's going on either. So the bill stuff just it really
• 27:41
  interests me. Definitely true and I like that call quite a bit. I
• 27:45
  think the key that I'm bringing up that ties into that too is what you
• 27:48
  said right off the hop on start of this show, where because this game
• 27:52
  got pushed for whatever reason, it feels like the ownership has switched to it's
• 27:56
  not on the slate, even though it still is. It's like people want
• 27:59
  to see themselves winning a million dollars tonight. But we're going back in the
• 28:02
  day title. We're going back to when you used to have the sleepover.
• 28:04
  All that money. You gotta have a sleepover, wake up the next day,
• 28:07
  run your day, and then be able to watch Monday night football and
• 28:10
  see how that shakes out. Who knows too. Back in the FanDuel days,
• 28:12
  I remember even like sleeping on leads overnight or a shot that you've got
• 28:17
  this big opportunity on a Monday. But this is just interesting to note,
• 28:21
  like when you stack these three up, you still get almost four or five
• 28:23
  hundred bucks more per position again with this stack, so it's not like for
• 28:29
  three point four Shakiro doesn't have to do much. If Diggs has a two
• 28:33
  touchdown day, Allan's crushing. So that's the key. You could run one
• 28:37
  in and throw two like that's what you're hoping for. If it doesn't happen,
• 28:40
  the lineup was garbage anyways, so you just throw it out with the
• 28:42
  rest of those lineups in your portfolio and hope that the other ones come through.
• 28:47
  That's the key to mme or something like that. It's all up to
• 28:49
  you how you play it. That's what we always talking about a ship in
• 28:52
  nation. Build your own process, pick your own stuff, bring it over.
• 28:55
  We're giving you the ideas you can apply them. Speaking of an idea,
• 28:59
  I got a good one. Smash the like button almost four hundred and
• 29:02
  sixty five people watching. It's the easiest thing to do. There is nowhere
• 29:06
  near four hundred and sixty likes, So do us that favor. It takes
• 29:08
  just done. You'd be done already. You just go click it. It
• 29:12
  takes two seconds. I will go to you real quick because you said you
• 29:15
  want to transition to running back, so I'll let you start it. I
• 29:18
  do like the James Cook call. I think right now, probably somewhere in
• 29:22
  the vicinity of twenty percent ish at his spot when you got other guys at
• 29:26
  thirty five to fifty five range is what I'm seeing right now. So what
• 29:30
  are you doing here at the running back position? How are you using some
• 29:32
  of these guys within your stacks? Yeah, you know, we kind of
• 29:34
  transition to the James Cook conversation, so I'll just stick with him right out
• 29:37
  of the hop. The reason people would not be playing Josh Allen Stacks on
• 29:41
  this late is because they think Buffalo is gonna get a lead and just kind
• 29:45
  of sit on it. And that would lead me to believe that people are
• 29:48
  just going to James Cook, which doesn't appear to be the case in terms
• 29:52
  of ownership. He's looking to be like, what fourth fifth at the position?
• 29:59
  Yeah, fifth or sixth in terms of ownership at the position. So
• 30:03
  I think it just more so goes to your point, like they push this
• 30:06
  game to Monday, and people are almost thinking that it's off the slate.
• 30:10
  And that's definitely fine to do on the Pittsburgh side, because it's like a
• 30:11
  terrible spot for them. I mean, it's absolutely brutal spot. I'm fine,
• 30:15
  you know, kind of applying the Miami situation to Pittsburgh, where man,
• 30:21
  I don't want much of it and the field doesn't, and that's fine.
• 30:22
  And if there's something on Pittsburgh you like, you're gonna get it at
• 30:26
  very low ownership I don't like much. But the Bills are still projected to
• 30:30
  score twenty four points on the slate. That's just like three or four behind
• 30:34
  Dallas and in Detroit. In those big total games, they're at home.
• 30:37
  They have a big advantage here. They're used to playing in this cold weather.
• 30:41
  You know, I think James Cook is a phenomenal plays in that same
• 30:45
  price range as all those other guys, a little bit more, which might
• 30:48
  be the reason why his ownership's coming in lower than I would have anticipated the
• 30:53
  other guys. You know, Tony Pollock is gonna get a lot of ownership.
• 30:56
  We've already talked about that situation. I'm good both sides that they're projected
• 31:00
  to score a ton of points. You mentioned the two touchdown prop is looking
• 31:07
  pretty nice on these sites, the sports betting sites. Sixty one hundred,
• 31:11
  he'll be popular. Aaron Jones in that same game, sixty three hundred should
• 31:17
  get a lot of work. And the thing with Jones, there's just so
• 31:19
  many outs, like they can be getting their ass kicked all game, and
• 31:22
  Jones can still get there with the dump offs and things like that. Him
• 31:26
  and Love have a good connection out of the backfield, so you don't need
• 31:29
  to worry really about the game all that much. And he's looked he's looked
• 31:33
  good lately as well. So Aaron Jones sixty three if you're trying to get
• 31:36
  big on that Dallas Green Bay game, totally fine play. Transitioning to the
• 31:41
  Detroit Rams running backs, Karen Williams probably has the most secure workload I think
• 31:47
  on the slate, like there's no one coming in behind him, even Tony
• 31:49
  Pollard. They'll mix in Rico a little bit in Detroit, though obviously it's
• 31:53
  two headed thing. His workload is so so stable. But he is a
• 31:57
  little more expensive at three hundred, but man, he's just smashed basically the
• 32:04
  entire second half of the season can get there. If they're playing from behind,
• 32:07
  whatever it may be in a dome, He's a strong option. Gibbs
• 32:12
  sixty five hundred. Again, I you know, it's tough to figure out
• 32:15
  what the Lions are gonna do, but Gibbs is just such a dynamic player,
• 32:20
  man, so explosive. I have to imagine in the playoffs here they
• 32:23
  just get him on the field even more so than before. So I really
• 32:28
  like Gibbs, but Montgomery as well. I mean, if they happen to
• 32:30
  get inside the five a couple times, I mean, Montgomery could easily end
• 32:34
  up being the guy that just gets two touchdowns in this game. Sixty two
• 32:38
  hundred. His ownership is much cheaper, or his ownership is much lower than
• 32:43
  all the previous mentioned guys, even Cook that we talked about. Fine,
• 32:46
  getting some Montgomery exposure, But I don't really want to mess around at the
• 32:51
  running back position. I mean, it's these top guys, and like again,
• 32:54
  it's so tough for these cheap running backs, these backup running backs to
• 33:00
  to kind of get there. So I want to focus on these high end
• 33:02
  guys. Kyen Williams, Aaron Jones, Gibbs, Pollard, Cook, Montgomery,
• 33:08
  and then the Pittsburgh guys are actually looking to get They're the only position
• 33:12
  really on Pittsburgh is looking to get any ownership. I would not I'm not
• 33:15
  going to be playing Najie Harris. I might get some Jalen Warren, but
• 33:20
  I don't necessarily think I'm gonna go out of my way to play Jalen Warren.
• 33:23
  I want to focus on those other guys more so, and James Cook
• 33:28
  is the one that stands out though, I mean, coming in six in
• 33:30
  ownership, that whole team, the bill is looking to be low owned.
• 33:34
  If you're not on some Allen stuff, like I definitely get some Cooks because
• 33:37
  to me, that's the reason you're not on the Allen stuff is because you
• 33:39
  think that they can just dominate this game, shut it down and win in
• 33:43
  a nasty fashion, when in those scenarios you kind of want the running back.
• 33:46
  So I will be prioritizing James Cook today. Yeah. I threw it
• 33:50
  up on the board real quick before I go to you title just the you
• 33:52
  know the dak CD Ferguson. I just used Ferguson in this case. I
• 33:55
  went, you know, Aaron Jones because we're not on Pollard. You can
• 33:59
  definitely stack with Paular just sticking to this position. But just to give the
• 34:01
  idea who mentioned earlier, like you would have to plug somebody like Shakir in.
• 34:06
  People probably feel more secure with Shakir than going to I think I saw
• 34:09
  that one. I saw that one coming from the mile away Borrow. Yeah,
• 34:14
  oh yeah. As soon as you said that name, I said,
• 34:16
  yep, here here comes something. Something's matching up right behind it. But
• 34:21
  if you go to your guy gallup there, I mean, people are talking
• 34:23
  about Tolbert as well. He obviously caught a touchdown last week. He's been
• 34:27
  in the mix. I guess this would just feel more comfortable for people.
• 34:30
  It does get you back to the four point eight K. You put a
• 34:31
  cheap D you can make this work pretty easily. So you know, now
• 34:35
  seeing it from that perspective, it is good to look it at. One
• 34:38
  thing I want to bring up though, you know, we got over five
• 34:40
  hundred people watching. We're getting game shows happening in the chat now. If
• 34:45
  anyone guesses titles celebrity crush, I got fifty bucks for you. Did they
• 34:50
  come close here? Title? They said, it's initials l r are they
• 34:52
  close. I don't even know off the top of my had who my celebrity
• 34:57
  crush would be. Title doesn't watch movies or I don't think he has a
• 35:00
  celebrity. I don't think he has a celebrity crush. Yeah, no,
• 35:04
  I nothing came to my head right away, So I'd have to ponder that
• 35:07
  for a sec. All right, Title, talk to me. Forget pondering
• 35:09
  that. Let's move back on that. I just thought it was insane that
• 35:13
  we see this. Let's let's talk about this stuff here. You know,
• 35:15
  the chat was talking about playoff Lenny Hoops, talking about James Cook. There's
• 35:20
  the guys on the Detroit side. Of course, the popular three options that
• 35:22
  we know up top. But I guess that's the interesting part for me,
• 35:27
  just starting at this Pittsburgh Buffalo game the same way we started with Hoop.
• 35:30
  There's nothing going on with this game, like everyone wants to avoid the game,
• 35:32
  but nothing's gonna happen, Like points are gonna be scored somewhere, and
• 35:37
  if it's you know, to me, the one interesting the chat said it
• 35:38
  fifty eight touches for Najee Harris over the last two weeks. What's the best
• 35:44
  way for Pittsburgh to have any hope in hell in this game is to keep
• 35:47
  to keep Josh Allen off the field. Will it work? Maybe not,
• 35:52
  but that's got to be the starting point, right, So at least have
• 35:53
  some interest in there. And if they fall behind, then doesn't it become
• 35:55
  the Jalen Warren show where we just see him picking up a ton of PPR
• 36:00
  points throughout the game. So I actually have a little more interest in the
• 36:01
  Pittsburgh side. Give me your thoughts on that game, the running backs within
• 36:06
  it, sorry, and then other running backs that you want to talk about
• 36:08
  here. Yeah, you pretty much took all the words out of my mouth
• 36:12
  that I was gonna start. So the first two things I did at running
• 36:15
  back and again not saying this is right, It's just I'm trying to narrow
• 36:17
  down my script a little bit. I said, Max One gives in Montgomery,
• 36:22
  Max One, Naji Harrison Warren, and there are past both of them
• 36:25
  can get there. But this slate at running back is strong enough. Aaron
• 36:30
  Jones, Pollard, Karen Williams, those guys, those four we just mentioned,
• 36:34
  James Cook like, there's enough running backs and I trust points to be
• 36:37
  put up at the position. If Montgomery scoring, it's not GiB scoring that
• 36:40
  drive, vice versa with Warren Naji. So I made that rule. Curious
• 36:45
  to hear your thoughts when we get to it. But I like Nase.
• 36:49
  I mean, Mike Tomlin's gonna pound Nause early in the game. If the
• 36:52
  games, if they cover nine as a spread, I think Naji gets twenty
• 36:57
  five touches more than likely now Dallas, or if Buffalo jumps out early,
• 37:00
  he gets out to fourteen point lead something like that. Then I think that's
• 37:05
  where you see Warren playing more trailing, better pass catcher, etc. Which
• 37:08
  is why I like the max one rule. But I think they both can
• 37:12
  get there at relatively oops. Right, they're gonna get some ownership. They're
• 37:16
  not gonna be sub ten percent, I don't think, but they're also going
• 37:19
  to be six seventh highest owned running back on the slate or something. So
• 37:23
  yeah, I do like it. I prefer the Nase side. They've just
• 37:25
  been giving them all the work. I think tom was gonna want to run
• 37:30
  the ball. I mean, you don't want to drive back with Mason Rudolph
• 37:31
  more than you have to, So yeah, I like that Nause shout.
• 37:35
  I do like oops James Cook shout as well. I'm not playing much of
• 37:37
  that game. I don't like Rudolph, so I'm not really playing any pass
• 37:42
  catchers or anything from Pitt. Josh is my second least favorite quarterback with price,
• 37:45
  with weapons, etc. And like you said, Tambo, this game's
• 37:50
  probably not gonna be three to nothing at the end of the day with no
• 37:52
  point. So I do find myself coming here in that game to the running
• 37:55
  back position at most Cook nase I probably. I don't know. Cook and
• 38:00
  Naji are close. Warren would be a third the other running backs I mean,
• 38:04
  man, Aaron Jones, Pollard, Aleen Aaron Jones. If I had
• 38:07
  to pick one, I've seen enough Tony Pollard to be awful this year.
• 38:10
  Maybe this is is. I'll let you get to that two touchdown prop,
• 38:14
  which was crazy Tambou for Tony Pollard. Yeah, like Hoop said, Aaron
• 38:17
  Jones just has so many routes to get there in the pass catching game.
• 38:21
  No, aj Dillon, He's going to get all the work. He's looked
• 38:23
  good the past couple weeks. Finally looks healthy, love Aaron Jones. Hien
• 38:29
  Williams is definitely going to get some ownership too. But when you're you can't
• 38:31
  go like dak CD Kyron, he's in the tier of his own, I
• 38:36
  guess kind of pricing wise at seven point three k. People know Detroit gets
• 38:40
  beat more in the passing game than the running game. I think Jones and
• 38:44
  Pollard coming higher owned and if you're not going Stafford Pooka Cup and all that,
• 38:50
  you expect Rams to put up some points. Kyron's been so good.
• 38:52
  I think he is interesting there. I prefer gives in Montgomery a lot.
• 38:57
  Like Hoop said, he's just a better running back, more exploded if it
• 39:00
  is interesting to note though both of them are favorite to score a touchdown gives
• 39:04
  minus one sixty Montgomery minus one thirty five, So again, that may be
• 39:08
  a case not to make that rule. I still think the running back room
• 39:12
  will put the case case to make that. The sportsbooks are fucking printing on
• 39:15
  those touchdown tops too. Yes, that too for sure, and it's I
• 39:21
  mean it's interesting though, because Montgomery is the goal line back for the most
• 39:23
  part, at least usually like the first down goal carry, but gives us
• 39:28
  a better touchdown prop. He has been getting more work as of late.
• 39:30
  I do prefer Gibbs there So how i'd rank running backs Aaron Jones my favorites
• 39:37
  tournaments. I think Gibbs probably is number two, then the Kairon Pollard's,
• 39:42
  Nasey James Cook, Warren. But I am going to be making a rule.
• 39:45
  I'm curious to see what you two say about those two rules. Max
• 39:49
  one Detroit Max one pit running back. That's how I see the running back
• 39:52
  room. Yeah, I don't know if I'll need the rule. I'll keep
• 39:54
  a look on it, but I just don't see it happening. Like there's
• 39:57
  just too many other options. Kieran Pollard, Joe all Way, too good,
• 40:00
  Gibbs, I don't see him getting in there with Montgomery in my lineup.
• 40:04
  So it's tough to say, but I definitely don't disagree with them.
• 40:07
  Like, I think that's fine, And I think the stuff we've said about
• 40:08
  Nause has come true. I think especially I know our guy Ham got it
• 40:13
  over, like we talked about earlier. If you go to our site ship
• 40:15
  at Nation and check the slate plan in the FanDuel slate plan, I know
• 40:19
  he's got it there, and I like it is. You know with Nause
• 40:21
  what it's gonna be if he's in the game. I think Pittsburgh d is
• 40:23
  somewhat in the game. You know, Alan can make mistakes, it doesn't
• 40:27
  you know, the Bills can win the game, and Allan can still throw
• 40:30
  two picks and Nage can still score and have sixty five on the ground or
• 40:34
  whatever and still be valuable at the lower price point. So I definitely think
• 40:37
  that's something the Pollard thing was. And our guy Jake shout out to you
• 40:39
  always in here supporting us and bringing some good stuff into the chats. As
• 40:43
  Pollard finally binks today. I brought it up pre show to these guys.
• 40:46
  He's in some places minus two hundred to score a touchdown, minus one to
• 40:50
  eighty. Most places, he is plus two fifty some places plus two twenty
• 40:54
  five to score multiple touchdowns today, And I know it's what we always say.
• 40:59
  Who said it's actually hilarious to me. Though I didn't go back and
• 41:01
  backtrack this or see it. I don't remember it ever being this insane,
• 41:06
  but usually whop when we saw the Pollard love or the Pollard stuff, it
• 41:10
  was when Dallas was a ten point favorite or more. This is in the
• 41:14
  finally we're getting a close game here, like a seven point spread. It
• 41:16
  may not end up being a close game by the end of this thing,
• 41:20
  but finally we get a close spread of just seven and all of a sudden,
• 41:22
  Pollard's the nuts to the sports books, Like, now they're gonna put
• 41:25
  that in there. I mean, we saw it yesterday. You know,
• 41:28
  when they moved Joe Flacco's throwing prop from two seventy one to two seventy four.
• 41:32
  You just knew he was gonna hit that prop, and sure enough he
• 41:36
  did. So. I don't know any other thoughts there on Pollard just in
• 41:38
  general. And I know you gave the sports book a little smack there,
• 41:42
  a verbal salaking if it will, but carry on, go ahead. Yeah,
• 41:45
  I mean, I just think it's more attention on this these games in
• 41:50
  the playoffs, more people betting that sort of thing, and probably driving driving
• 41:53
  the price in that direction in my opinion, Like I'm not buying into it
• 41:58
  too much. Fantasy wise, I think he's a good play. I mean,
• 42:00
  Dallas is projected to score almost thirty points today, and yeah, get
• 42:06
  I get the Pollard stuff. That's why Dak has been such a printer.
• 42:08
  First all season, Pollard has been ineffective at the running back position, and
• 42:13
  they've been passing on even a couple of games ago, they could have shut
• 42:15
  it down with the run, and they're still passing in the fourth quarter,
• 42:19
  like not trying to grind out the clock. That's just another little boost to
• 42:22
  our guy Dak, who's treated as well. But the Pollard stuff, I
• 42:24
  mean, yeah, he's just he's been in effective all season. But the
• 42:30
  spot is really good today and he's cheap and he's gonna be owned and I
• 42:34
  don't know, it's it's definitely an interesting talking point, but he'll be a
• 42:37
  lot of people will just be going to Pollard today because they want Cowboys exposure.
• 42:40
  Yeah, do you see something? Let me ask you this then a
• 42:43
  different way to put it for another angle. Do you see where Pollard's ownership
• 42:46
  stays the same or goes up and Lambs comes down just because people start looking
• 42:51
  at it like we kind of did here, Like how hard it is the
• 42:53
  minute you pick these two dudes. It's very bad, Like you have to
• 43:00
  run it. So answer you answer your question. I just I've been messing
• 43:02
  around with some teams as we're going along, making changes based on you know,
• 43:06
  what you guys are saying, like the comments and the chat, and
• 43:07
  I am starting to realize, especially if you're doing one point fifty, if
• 43:12
  you don't embrace high ownership on some of these cheap guys on the slate,
• 43:16
  you got to embrace some very high ownership on these cheap wide receivers, these
• 43:21
  cheap tight ends. If you don't embrace that, it is hard to get
• 43:24
  a lot of DAK to CD LAMB teams. It is not It is not
• 43:28
  easy. It starts, it starts running. You start running into trouble relatively
• 43:31
  quick. And and by embrace big ownership, I mean you're playing big ownership
• 43:37
  on DeMarcus Robinson, You're playing big ownership on Shakir, You're playing big ownership
• 43:43
  on Jamison Williams, Tucker Kraft, Josh Reynolds, guys like that. So
• 43:47
  it does, it gets, It gets tough in a hurry. And I
• 43:52
  do think there's a chance that scenario makes DAK to CD a little little less
• 43:59
  owned than maybe you were anticipating. Yeah, because look at this too,
• 44:01
  though, Like this is just the balance style build that you roll out.
• 44:05
  Like again, assuming people are just good with DeMarcus Robinson, well why not
• 44:08
  make them good with who would make them really good for your overall lineup?
• 44:12
  And ceiling is Stafford, nku oh, Wort, Cup Robinson, a Manra,
• 44:16
  Gibbs, Pollard. Because you're not on the DAK side, you still
• 44:20
  have four thousand with cheap tight ends, cheap DST and then whatever you want
• 44:23
  to put in for the flex spots. I mean, like that's another interesting
• 44:27
  point just to look at it where you're not really even if you think Pollard
• 44:30
  sucks, I was trying to show it off, like man, people just
• 44:32
  do not like Pollard. It's all over the chat right now. They're done
• 44:36
  with them. He's dust. There's nothing he can do. Probably true,
• 44:39
  But again it's just one angle to look at. Is if you are going
• 44:42
  to Lamb instead, makes perfect sense. Lamb's been crushing. But if you're
• 44:46
  not gonna be on them, you got to think where are they getting their
• 44:49
  points from their schedule to put up almost thirty points on this slate the digs
• 44:53
  over Lamb. You could do something like this as well. You could also
• 44:57
  just say I've got Stafford, Nikua, Robinson, give me Gibbs opposite or
• 45:01
  Montgomery of who everybody's looking at Kieran Williams up top here, and then you
• 45:07
  go to where's our guy? Everyone's playing cheap. Shakir, you're not playing
• 45:12
  Lamb because you've got Pollard. You go up to Diggs, you actually still
• 45:14
  have more now you got four point two k. This is just the way
• 45:15
  I think about Bill's process. Whise looking at it out, you still got
• 45:19
  to make it make sense. People just try and jam a projection or put
• 45:22
  something there. I'm still trying to think of what we talk about all the
• 45:24
  time at Shibernation, game theory, correlation, leverage. That's what I'm doing.
• 45:29
  If I see that that dak stack looks expensive, even though people say,
• 45:32
  oh, well, maybe some people won't get there as much anymore,
• 45:35
  they're still getting there. They're still finding their way around it. So if
• 45:37
  you look at something like this, it's Stafford Nakua Robinson a little more balanced
• 45:43
  instead of Shakir and somebody else. I've got the pay up to Digs,
• 45:46
  the pay down to Robinson. Robinson will be popular too, but I'm putting
• 45:51
  them with Stafford. Gibbs will be popular too, but I'm putting him opposite
• 45:54
  the guy more popular than I'm in, Kieran Williams. And then I don't
• 45:58
  even love Pollard as much, which just everyone may you know, think I
• 46:00
  am the way I'm talking about it. But if I'm not getting the Gibbs,
• 46:04
  I'm probably playing Pollard. You could flip it though, you like something
• 46:07
  like this a little bit better, go to Ferguson. Now get your take
• 46:09
  in there on. Oh well, let's see if they want to try and
• 46:13
  drive nause in there. Now you got even more money left over and you're
• 46:15
  playing that spot, so lots of different ways that you can do it here.
• 46:19
  Anything else to add title? If not, we can move on to
• 46:22
  wide Receiver. No, everything you said, I mean you help me make
• 46:25
  my I was debating on multiple things for my core, and again we don't.
• 46:29
  We just want you coming over pay look at the core and do that.
• 46:32
  There's so many options, but I was debating a lot of combinations and
• 46:37
  your thought process and what went into Like my Stafford core would look a lot
• 46:40
  different than my Jordan Love core in this, but I'm taking everything into consideration.
• 46:45
  Jones or the Chalk Jones, Pollard, CD, the Chalk Punch,
• 46:50
  Shakir DeMarcus, all that stuff, and those pieces I like in different roster
• 46:54
  constructions depending on my stack over stacks, game environments, etc. So I
• 47:00
  think maybe even going back after the show rewinding and listen to that tidbit Campbell
• 47:04
  thought process. That's important. That's how you get an edge and build lineups,
• 47:07
  especially on these shorter slids. So good stuff. Yeah, appreciate it.
• 47:10
  I'll go over to our stack rankings here. Again we don't the other
• 47:14
  sites. Oh you got to get in to get behind the paywall. We
• 47:15
  try and show as much as we can. We do all kinds stuff.
• 47:19
  A ton of my stuff you guys follow me for years, is always free.
• 47:22
  All these shows we do are free. All the content we're putting out,
• 47:23
  it's just some of the stuff it's easier to combine on the site obviously,
• 47:27
  and that's part of it. But really the discord key combination piece for
• 47:30
  joining up. We're talking about this strategy and theory and reasoning in the chat
• 47:34
  every day, even if sometimes it is to play fun at certain members of
• 47:37
  the chat, and just to think through it. That's what we're talking about,
• 47:39
  not just this guy versus this guy all the time. But going to
• 47:42
  our stack ranking, just pull up the top three here we've got again it
• 47:45
  includes the Monday game, but we're not on that one for this slate.
• 47:49
  But just take note of this. But let me sort by value dak Prescott,
• 47:53
  Lamb, Ferguson, Stafford Robinson, Nakua which we just talked about,
• 47:59
  and then go off a Monra Reynolds. So kind of what you would expect
• 48:01
  there, But again just looking at it. If I talk about this all
• 48:05
  the time, I did it on the review shows plenty with my guy Naids
• 48:07
  throughout the season. If I go to this Stafford Robinson, Nikua, I'm
• 48:12
  not on this passing attack, I probably want to plug in Ferguson because Lamb
• 48:15
  gets too expensive. Or if I'm not gonna be on the passing attack,
• 48:20
  I want to maybe move over to Pollard and look from that angle, maybe
• 48:22
  Reynolds becomes my value play. So just lots of stuff that you could take
• 48:27
  away. Some of these just one quick tools. We've got it all covered,
• 48:29
  but the projections and ownership are the main thing. The discord where you
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  And it's anything that you can win. You ship it. You're going to
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  the championship, you can win it. You ship a pot in poker,
• 48:58
  anything that you can win. When PEP people ask you that what ship it?
• 49:00
  That's what I tell him, ship it. We'll talk about it all
• 49:04
  the time on here, because we don't talk about manscaped or all these other
• 49:07
  things. We talk about something that can actually help you guys out and get
• 49:09
  better at your game, get better at actually playing dfs in general, building
• 49:14
  your own process, finding something that you can make repeatable and win on your
• 49:16
  own without just chasing and following other people that have good screenshots and stuff.
• 49:21
  We have those two. That's not what it's about, Hoop. Let me
• 49:23
  kick it over to you. Man. We're getting late in the show,
• 49:24
  but it is a Sunday show, so I was talking a little bit more
• 49:29
  wide receiver tight end. I mean, we can bring in pass catchers together,
• 49:31
  but I think just talk brough. We've already spent a lot of time
• 49:35
  talking about them in general. Take us wherever you want to go with this
• 49:37
  wide receiver position man. Yeah, so I mean starting at the top.
• 49:40
  I mean, obviously Cde Lamb has had a phenomenal season. The connection with
• 49:45
  Dak it has not slowed down at all. I mean it's the top connection
• 49:50
  in the NFL wide receiver quarterback pairing. He'll be owned today. But like
• 49:53
  I said, you go in and you start building those teams, especially if
• 49:57
  you're making multiple teams, you want a pair DAK and CD. You showed
• 50:00
  it on the screen as well in the solver with our projections. You put
• 50:04
  it in there. Your thin real quick in terms of how much salary that
• 50:07
  you have left. So is it gonna be owned? Yeah, it will
• 50:10
  be owned. Maybe, you know, we get lucky and it comes down
• 50:14
  a little bit because people are like, yeah, you know what, I
• 50:15
  only have forty eight. You know, once you put in defense, you
• 50:17
  have about five thousand left per spot. You got to play two to three
• 50:21
  cheap guys in these sort of teams. Every team, every team, every
• 50:25
  DAC CD team you make, you have to play probably three valued type guys.
• 50:30
  So maybe the ownership on CD comes down a little bit. It's gonna
• 50:34
  be up there, for sure, There's no doubt about it. We have
• 50:37
  a Mona Saint Brown obviously, if you want to get in on that Detroit
• 50:39
  game, I think he's a phenomenal play. Talked about the Ram stuff.
• 50:43
  You know, we talked about a lot of these guys as we're you know,
• 50:45
  building teams, talking about two v two s, three v threes.
• 50:47
  But man, the Rams guys have to be the top one two duo on
• 50:52
  the slate in terms of, you know, the one two wide receiver for
• 50:55
  each team, like both those guys. Stephan Diggs seventy four is going to
• 51:00
  get squeezed, and I just have a strong feeling that the Buffalo stuff is
• 51:05
  going to be lower on than even the projection sites are kind of predicting.
• 51:08
  So it's a spot I want to be on. Seventy four hundred. It's
• 51:12
  a cheap price tag. That game's a writeoff for a lot of people.
• 51:15
  Just I'm not even looking at it, and you can just tell by the
• 51:19
  ownership numbers, and like you said, I think it comes in even lower
• 51:22
  the Green Bays seduff got to see what's going on with Christian Watson, Like,
• 51:25
  if he's in forty five hundred, I'm definitely gonna take some shots on
• 51:30
  him in the Dome, which is very key. Jaden Reid, I think
• 51:32
  a phenomenal play fifty seven. I mean he's the guy second half of the
• 51:37
  season whenever Watson went down. I mean he stepped up in a big,
• 51:40
  big way, big play upside. They use him in a lot of different
• 51:43
  ways. You know, they'll give them the end around in the red zone.
• 51:46
  I mean that stuffs very valuable because you're not only depending on the quarterback
• 51:51
  to get you the ball at that point, you're just taking a handoff and
• 51:52
  going. And they use him in a lot of different ways. I think
• 51:57
  he's a solid out and talked about Wis the other pass catchers for Dallas.
• 52:04
  You know, I'm kind of hopping all around, but I definitely want some
• 52:07
  Cooks big time touchdown upside. They I think it's like back to back weeks.
• 52:10
  They kind of hit him on that little route going out of the end
• 52:14
  zone at perfect pass from Dak. Imagine that forty nine hundred. I do
• 52:17
  want to take some chances on Gallup though. If I'm gonna be high on
• 52:21
  Dak, I want to take chances on Gallup at thirty one. He's had
• 52:23
  a bad season. The results have not been good, but they continue to
• 52:27
  give them looks in these high leverage spots. So Gallup's a guy that I
• 52:30
  want him basically the bare minimum at thirty one hundred, and he'll be way
• 52:32
  way less owned than Jamison Williams, shak Here and DeMarcus Robinson as the third
• 52:39
  chief guy. I guess yeah, those three chief guys, Jamison Williams,
• 52:45
  Shakir, DeMarcus Robinson all will get pretty good ownership. But man, it's
• 52:50
  like they are the premier chief guys on the slate. I at this point
• 52:55
  thing, I like Jamison Williams the best, to be honest with you.
• 52:59
  I mean, he not only is going to get more playing time, but
• 53:01
  he has the big playoff side. They're getting him the ball in a lot
• 53:05
  of different ways now and I think he's going to be a big part of
• 53:07
  the Porto's limited at all today. I think Jamison Williams is the one that
• 53:13
  gets the biggest boost. We've seen the targets go up seven six three last
• 53:17
  game. Really like Jamison Williams and the three in the last game. I
• 53:22
  think he got hurt so it could have potentially been more. I'm going to
• 53:29
  be off the Pittsburgh stuff. I mean, their ownership is going to be
• 53:30
  really really low. But man, I'm just not playing that spot at all.
• 53:35
  But there is a lot of wide receivers. We have spends, we
• 53:37
  have cheap guys. I think the middle range might get squeezed a little bit,
• 53:42
  like the Jayden Reid's Brandon Cooks guys like that could get lower ownership because
• 53:46
  I think a lot of people either go to the top and get like CD
• 53:50
  the Rams guys or Manra, or just come all the way down and play
• 53:52
  those cheap guys. So the mid tier I think has a chance to go
• 53:54
  a little lower on than we're anticipating. Yeah, the chat Socamo this two
• 53:59
  real quick hoop. Just the elite three wide receiver builds. Like you talked
• 54:02
  earlier, when you ran the stuff, you saw all those values pop in.
• 54:06
  The running back position is just two loaded. I think to mess around
• 54:08
  with that, but on this land, I can't. There's just no way
• 54:14
  I can go there and play Naji Harris, Rico, Dwodoo or Lenny as
• 54:19
  my running backs. I would I would if I'm on that team, I
• 54:22
  would email DraftKings and see if you can just get your money back or just
• 54:24
  unregistered. At that point, you just can't do it unread real quick on
• 54:29
  note and then I'll let title take overs like this is the other thing too,
• 54:30
  we talk about this. We're probably higher. I think other sites are
• 54:34
  around twenty four to twenty five on LAMB. But this again what we talk
• 54:37
  about all the time. Who would I talked about it yesterday? Almost seven
• 54:38
  hundred people in you're watching now, appreciate all of you. Just want to
• 54:42
  say it quick though. One of the points we made yesterday was remember projections
• 54:45
  one piece of the puzzle. Definitely important, something that I build into my
• 54:49
  process. But part of my thought process when looking at some of these builds
• 54:52
  like this, and I put them all on the screen not for this build
• 54:54
  to show this exercise is when you got eleven on Cook's and twenty seven LAMB,
• 55:00
  that's the projection going in. What happens the second that the first touchdown
• 55:04
  goes to Cook's and not Lamb. Well, now these numbers shift, and
• 55:07
  now a guy like Kieran Williams, let's say you still believe in this number
• 55:12
  or you think the twenty is more accurate. That's how this build becomes more
• 55:15
  probable because even though it projects a little less. Right now, if this
• 55:19
  is actually seventeen, and your guy Lamb comes down to twenty. You now
• 55:23
  got Lamb. If you think Kieran could do the same for twenty points for
• 55:28
  seven point three k as opposed to nine k. Can this build still work?
• 55:31
  Yes? Are you leveraging in a completely different way than with Pollard or
• 55:36
  with Aaron Jones. Yes, you're going to Dax still, You're going to
• 55:38
  Ferguson still, but then you're using Cooks in the middle. If you get
• 55:42
  a touchdown from Cooks, a touchdown from Ferguson and Lamb just has eight for
• 55:45
  eighty and does his job and they keep him in check, but he still
• 55:50
  has a good day. That's probably not needed. And now you've got a
• 55:52
  build here that's different that can still fit some pretty serious options. Aaron Jones
• 55:57
  opposite Pollard, Kieran Williams, with one of Jamison Williams or somebody else.
• 56:01
  You can still go to Shakir and have all the money in the world left
• 56:06
  over. Or you can go to if you want, instead of Shakiir.
• 56:08
  You think he's gonna be popular down there, you still get away with it
• 56:12
  and get digs in instead of people on the lower price Shakiir. So again,
• 56:15
  just another build you can find that you can get different with title your
• 56:19
  quick thoughts wide receiver and then we'll go to tight end and get out of
• 56:22
  here. Yeah, I'll just group wide receiver tight end together. I'll go
• 56:25
  just team by team, make it easy because you're only playing a handful of
• 56:29
  guys on each team, a lot of them with a stack. So starting
• 56:32
  with the Packers, the Watson news is important. If Watson's in, so
• 56:37
  DraftKings sports book looking at receiving props. Assuming Watson's in, they have read
• 56:42
  by far the highest or yards prop. Then they have Wix two, Dubs
• 56:47
  three, Kraft four, and then Watson five. So interesting there. I'd
• 56:54
  like read for sure, regardless of Watson status. I like Wis for sure,
• 56:58
  regardless of Watson's They like him in Green Bay as getting some DeVante Adams
• 57:02
  comps four point eight k outside of Reid, and I even think Reed himself.
• 57:07
  I think the Packers are gonna go pretty low owned at the wide receiver
• 57:10
  position. I like Tucker Craft two at three point three K. He might
• 57:15
  he might get a little ownership there, but I would if I'm in love
• 57:17
  Stacks, I'll mix and match him. Reed Wicks, I guess maybe if
• 57:22
  Watson plays, but Read and Wicks are my favorites. With Kraft, Dobs
• 57:25
  is gonna be very low on f five to four. I don't love him
• 57:29
  as much as one us. I just maybe one or take a shot at
• 57:31
  one of them, getting two of them. Not with Jordan Love, stuff
• 57:35
  is a little tough, but yeah, a lot of options in the Green
• 57:37
  Bay receiver room, which is another reason staffing Jordan Love is pretty tough because
• 57:42
  you're parlay in getting Love a big game and then getting the right pieces that
• 57:45
  he throws to Dallas side easy at CD Ferguson, Brandon Cooks. I don't
• 57:52
  really love Gallup or Tobert. They're kind of splitting more as a wide receiver.
• 57:54
  Three they can run the ball fine, really just coach Ferguson Lamb for
• 57:59
  me. All very good plays Ramside. Yeah, you guys broke it down.
• 58:01
  Can't be more obvious hooka cut DeMarcus and three receiver sets. Someone asked
• 58:07
  like, why didn't de Marcus play much the last week? They didn't have
• 58:09
  anything to play for two to two? Got the work feels very obvious.
• 58:13
  It's gonna be DeMarcus will be popular at three to six, but he'll be
• 58:15
  on the field of good amount Hickby, He'll be pretty low. No,
• 58:20
  I shouldn't say that. Three point four k kind of in the same craft
• 58:23
  situation as a punt tight end. You can use him as double tight end.
• 58:27
  Bills and Stars and Scrubs Detroit, Amen, Ross Studd and Jameson Williams
• 58:30
  couldn't agree more like him a lot today, Josh Reynolds. And then I
• 58:36
  mean, man, I don't know. I'll let you guys touch on the
• 58:37
  porter He's gonna be super low owned. The knee looks bad. He practiced,
• 58:43
  he's gonna play if he's out there like a normal role. I mean,
• 58:45
  at this ownership would be criminal. At six k hardest, I don't
• 58:50
  know. I'll let you guys touch on that. I don't want to.
• 58:52
  I don't know what I'm gonna do with the Porta probably not played too much,
• 58:54
  but there's so much variance in that projection in that playing time, he
• 59:00
  could get there and break the slate. At low ownership. Pittsburgh, Yeah,
• 59:02
  cross them all off for me. Buffalo, I'm a little lower I
• 59:07
  think now on this Buffalo spot. Especially then Hoop Shakira's gonna get some ownership
• 59:12
  I like Williams and DeMarcus right in that range too, so I'm not sure
• 59:15
  he's a fine play there, but I don't love it. Digs. If
• 59:17
  I'm playing Josh, I'd probably pay him with digs, but it's been disappointing.
• 59:22
  Kinkad a solid tight end option. Don't really like Knox. I like
• 59:24
  Craft and the Craft, the Higbees and stuff like that more so that was
• 59:30
  position or receiver a tight end in all six teams. Yeah, I'll let
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  the like button on YouTube. Hoop back to you for tight ends. It's
• 1:00:30
  tough to follow up that that marketing pitch. But in terms of tight ends,
• 1:00:34
  ye, I didn't rope them into my conversation with the pass catchers,
• 1:00:37
  but the tight end position, the report of thing is very interesting. Six
• 1:00:43
  K is going to be very well on, you know, regardless of what
• 1:00:46
  news we get. There's no way he's one hundred percent. Like I saw
• 1:00:50
  the videos this week. He's got some big ass brace on his knee like
• 1:00:52
  he is not one hundred percent by any means. But they don't have any
• 1:00:57
  tight ends, Like if it's not him, it's literally just brock right,
• 1:01:00
  which man that that can't feel good, So they're gonna put him out there.
• 1:01:04
  Think you know, he has to be at least seventy percent healthy at
• 1:01:07
  this point, seventy percent him versus one hundred percent brock Right, you definitely
• 1:01:12
  just roll out Laporta and hope for the best. In terms of DFS,
• 1:01:15
  How do we apply that he's going to be super low owned The position I
• 1:01:19
  think is pretty weak, to be honest with you, Like you could see
• 1:01:22
  a lot of these guys busting like is uh is Jake Ferguson a lock to
• 1:01:25
  get us eighteen Fantasy points today? Absolutely not. He's his projection at ship
• 1:01:30
  a Nation is thirteen, so his floor is low. He could get to
• 1:01:35
  six or seven. Higbee's questionable. His floor is low. He's the fourth
• 1:01:38
  passing option on that team. Tucker Craft low floor, Kincave low floor.
• 1:01:45
  So Laporta going out and getting twelve could be enough on the slate. So
• 1:01:47
  for that reason, I will make sure to have some Sam Laporta low ownership,
• 1:01:52
  especially on Jared Goff teams. I mean, there's no way Laporta gets
• 1:01:57
  big ownership on the slate, So I might feel like, yeah, even
• 1:02:00
  yeah, it could be long that. I mean, if you're playing one
• 1:02:02
  point fifty, you play them at five percent, you're probably above the field.
• 1:02:07
  They're a worst case scenario right at the field, maybe gets little steam
• 1:02:12
  because people are like, all right, he's in good to go. We
• 1:02:13
  get a video of him warming up and he looks good and everyone's good to
• 1:02:15
  play. But there's no way he gets out of the single digit range.
• 1:02:19
  So I will be on him. Ferguson obviously, I like Dak. I'll
• 1:02:22
  be on Ferguson, Higbe's cheap at thirty four, Tucker Craft thirty three,
• 1:02:27
  dalton Kin Cad forty six hundred. You just have to be on these guys
• 1:02:30
  by necessity. We have to fill the position. Can play double tight end
• 1:02:34
  for sure on the late especially if you're playing a lot of DAK to CD,
• 1:02:37
  you have to play these cheap tight ends. You have to play two
• 1:02:42
  tight end teams as well. So you know, I don't know, like
• 1:02:45
  it's you know, Ferguson's probably the top option, and I think there's a
• 1:02:49
  gap after him for me. You know, Higbee Craft I view as similar
• 1:02:52
  play as king Kid, like I want to be on the bill stuff.
• 1:02:55
  Obviously, I've talked about it a lot on the show. I think that
• 1:02:58
  game, that team is forgotten. I'm fine, you know, taking the
• 1:03:00
  Steelers guys and getting rid of them, but the Bill side don't want to
• 1:03:04
  be on so cincaid. I'll get some of some knocks Laporta, but I
• 1:03:08
  think Laporta is a pretty big talking point at the tight end position. Yeah.
• 1:03:14
  One thing I'll say about him, because I don't have much to talk
• 1:03:15
  about him. I just think probably an x like even if he gets to
• 1:03:19
  two or three percent, I just don't think he's gonna be needed. That's
• 1:03:21
  why I think it is what it is, like. People know he's even
• 1:03:23
  in one fifty. You don't want just a little bit what if twelves the
• 1:03:29
  answer at tight end? If you can sell yourself on the fact that twelve
• 1:03:31
  is the huh six k Yeah, but the position though, if you can,
• 1:03:37
  if I tell you twelve is the number you need at tight end to
• 1:03:39
  win today, are you on them? No, I'm not on him because
• 1:03:43
  I think I'm just gonna say it here, like talking out loud, just
• 1:03:45
  about how I talk about Game three and stuff like this, and just in
• 1:03:46
  general what the field's doing matters most to me. I think he could get
• 1:03:50
  eighteen points and not end up on the winner today. It's actually possible because
• 1:03:53
  if he's one to try. I disagree I disagree with that statement. Well,
• 1:03:57
  you don't know what everybody else does. It's like what we talk about
• 1:03:59
  in go off. If he gets eighteen but Knox has fourteen or Tucker Craft
• 1:04:03
  has thirteen or something just done, it's probably done at that point. I
• 1:04:06
  still I guess. I guess the difference. I just don't see that that
• 1:04:11
  second part becoming true where multiple guys get like fourteen or fifteen. So I
• 1:04:14
  don't. Yeah, I get it, trust me. It is not a
• 1:04:16
  comfortable player, and he is substantially more expensive than these other guys. If
• 1:04:20
  he was five k it might be a little bit of difference. You are
• 1:04:24
  sacrificing some high end players to play Laporta. I totally get sure. That's
• 1:04:29
  my point. The two three percent stuff, I can just if I can
• 1:04:30
  take five percent of my teams and be over the field on La port I
• 1:04:34
  think I'm gonna take that chance. Yeah, I think if you play them,
• 1:04:40
  I like it a lot more in just one tight end lineups saying the
• 1:04:43
  whole position, boss, because if you put him in two tight end lineups,
• 1:04:45
  you're comparing him next to the Aaron Jones, the Tony Pollards, the
• 1:04:48
  Montgomery's, the reads stuff. Like that. So that makes sense. Yeah,
• 1:04:53
  that does actually make sense. I like that call. Yeah, And
• 1:04:56
  I also think the way you were framing it up was almost like it's a
• 1:05:00
  Laporta versus the field bet, and I'm gonna take the field all day.
• 1:05:02
  I think there's actually good options. There's good fair options to pair with my
• 1:05:05
  quarterbacks. Yeah. I guess maybe I didn't clarify, but I was just
• 1:05:08
  saying, like, worst case scenario if the position buss, which I think
• 1:05:11
  is viable. I mean, these aren't like high end tight ends on the
• 1:05:15
  slate today, Like if the position buss and someone just needs twelve to thirteen
• 1:05:19
  points, like it could be Lapart like Tampa. Let's say Craft gets five
• 1:05:26
  points and that's the highest scoring five point five the highest scoring cheap tight end
• 1:05:30
  or Laporta gets thirteen. What would you rather? It's like the worst hypotheticals.
• 1:05:36
  I'm just saying. My point is that I'm not gonna answer, Like,
• 1:05:40
  the point is is that what you guys are saying is also the same
• 1:05:44
  if on the other way, if Laporta gets twelve or thirteen, you need
• 1:05:46
  them, but you're ifing the other guys not getting anything on a pool of
• 1:05:50
  like nine guys that are all super cheap. Like you said it best title,
• 1:05:54
  Laporta is the same price. He busts up my lineup from potential and
• 1:05:58
  you can play both. But I'm saying there's just one, two, three.
• 1:06:01
  There's like five, six, seven dudes that are the same price in
• 1:06:04
  my lineup that I'm also going to play as well. There's just all this
• 1:06:08
  stuff. If I'm playing Laporta, I'm playing him with golf and I'm hoping
• 1:06:11
  he breaks the slate, not hoping that he's the twelve that I need.
• 1:06:14
  Also, people again, I just always bring this up. I think Hoop
• 1:06:16
  was right off the hop. If he's only two percent owned, which is
• 1:06:19
  a very high possibility, I don't Well, everyone loves to go to that
• 1:06:24
  for the diamond in the rough because if I just get that big Laporta game,
• 1:06:27
  I win. It's not true. There's only two percent of the teams
• 1:06:30
  in the entire entire field that have him. You need eight other spots to
• 1:06:34
  go correct, and most of them are gonna bust that up. What if
• 1:06:38
  fifty percent of those teams are with Pollard, and Pollard dies and has a
• 1:06:41
  bad game and he's not needed. Your lineup's die. Don't don't have him,
• 1:06:44
  your lineups go to the wasteland. So all I'm saying is, it's
• 1:06:47
  not like Laporta is getting pushed to like an eight to ten percent spot where
• 1:06:51
  you actually have to consider it. I just don't even have to consider it.
• 1:06:55
  He might be one or two percent at six K and I just don't
• 1:06:58
  think he's gonna be needed. And even if he has twelve eighteen points,
• 1:07:00
  it may not be needed. Still. That was kind of my point.
• 1:07:02
  There's seven or eight guys at a much cheaper point per dollar rate that could
• 1:07:05
  still crush him. And now I see both sides. Honestly, I'm not
• 1:07:12
  saying like you have to do it for me personally, I'm taking the chance.
• 1:07:15
  And you know, maybe there's a little bias because I'm gonna be at
• 1:07:18
  the game and then his ass goes off and I don't have him, I'm
• 1:07:20
  gonna be fucking pissed. Yeah, but I'm playing Showdown tonight too, so
• 1:07:25
  I'll be in that. But now I can answer titles question because when I
• 1:07:28
  just talked through that, I want the six points or whatever five point five
• 1:07:30
  from Kraft because guess what, Now my lineup has like three or four dudes
• 1:07:34
  at almost the same price or just slightly more than Laporta that I think crush
• 1:07:38
  him. And if he beats me, he beats me. But I'm just
• 1:07:41
  saying there is still the best part about Laporta is if he gets eighteen,
• 1:07:45
  there is a possibility he still doesn't show up because the right combos don't have
• 1:07:49
  him like you don't. If there's only two percent of the field on him,
• 1:07:51
  it doesn't guarantee that he shows up. What if he shows up with
• 1:07:56
  eighteen and it's not with Goff, I bet you a bunch of people got
• 1:07:59
  him with golf, and golf can get beat too. So I don't know.
• 1:08:01
  I'm not scared of that answer anymore. I think that, you know,
• 1:08:04
  just talking through it, I don't need it, nor do I care.
• 1:08:08
  So probably won't end up with him at all, to be honest,
• 1:08:11
  We'll have to look at my lineups after and I'll put it in the discord
• 1:08:13
  if I do have him. But I don't see anyway right now that I
• 1:08:15
  get to him. No, Yeah, I mean I'll have probably just a
• 1:08:20
  little bit, just you know, just because I'll be looking. I'll be
• 1:08:24
  looking on Twitter and stuff and warm ups. I want to see how he's
• 1:08:26
  moving and stuff like that, for sure, and I will say he's also
• 1:08:30
  the brunt. He's the Agalore of the week. He's taking the brunt of
• 1:08:32
  it. It's not about really Laporta as much as I'm talking through more of
• 1:08:36
  how I view it. When you get a guy at six K on a
• 1:08:40
  slate like this, with the true slate dynamics and the players that we have
• 1:08:43
  to use and the games in front of us, he's just the one taking
• 1:08:45
  the brunt because he's literally the only dude at tight end at a price point.
• 1:08:49
  It's not really necessarily about the injury beyond the injury forces the low ownership.
• 1:08:55
  So hopefully that helps clarify and explain it. Anything, Hoop, you
• 1:08:58
  wanted to add on the defense at all? I know we usually just say
• 1:09:00
  wherever, but was there any key points you had, like the Najee Harris
• 1:09:04
  Steelers one I brought up earlier, any like that. The only thing I
• 1:09:08
  really wanted to say, Well, obviously Buffalo is going to be the highest
• 1:09:11
  honed by like a wide margin. I mean, they're they're obviously in a
• 1:09:14
  really good spot at home against the Bills offense against or against the Pittsburgh's offense,
• 1:09:19
  Mason Rudolph, they're going to have the highest owners. There's a there's
• 1:09:23
  a comment earlier though, uh it was far back, and you know,
• 1:09:27
  we've had a lot of comments since, and we obviously appreciate the chat being
• 1:09:31
  active here throughout the show. But someone had mentioned like the Rams and the
• 1:09:34
  Lions defense, which I think is I think both are really good plays on
• 1:09:39
  the slate. That's the highest total game. People tend to avoid the highest
• 1:09:43
  total game, but you have two quarterbacks that are turnover prone and not necessarily
• 1:09:45
  the most mobile guys. We saw golf and golf is off. Let me
• 1:09:50
  see, how can I put this together? Dan pressing Tambeau and there I
• 1:09:55
  was going, but I couldn't. I couldn't get the third piece. When
• 1:09:57
  golf is off, the opposing defense has an opportunity to put up some points.
• 1:10:01
  You eat fumbles, throws, interceptions, It just doesn't go good for
• 1:10:05
  him. So I think Rams defense definitely in play. And then Lion's on
• 1:10:09
  the other side. Stafford definitely a turnover prone guy. So I think those
• 1:10:13
  two defenses are defenses that I want to be overweight on. Rams and Lions.
• 1:10:17
  It's the highest total in the slate. People tend to avoid those spots.
• 1:10:20
  I like that, like the Bills as well. Cowboys have a strong
• 1:10:25
  defense. So I'm not again similar to yesterday, like I just I don't
• 1:10:29
  really care what I have at defense. I'm gonna just you run it,
• 1:10:30
  play it. But I will make sure I have rams and lions. When
• 1:10:33
  GoF is bad, there's pick sixes to be had. Bang, there we
• 1:10:36
  go. All right. Yeah, I knew you'd come up, you'd have
• 1:10:39
  something. You just get that one rolling. I still, there's got to
• 1:10:43
  be something with the in the chat. Can you guys help us out when
• 1:10:45
  golf is off? Fill in the blank, because there's got to be something
• 1:10:49
  in the chat. You guys have been good with this stuff, so give
• 1:10:51
  us something moving. He's got chat GP up right, give me a ride?
• 1:11:00
  Yeah, I don't even have that. Yeah. The one thing I
• 1:11:02
  will say, though, who if you brought it up it goes with your
• 1:11:05
  original points. I'll tie it back together. The last one I'll do here
• 1:11:08
  and then kick it the title for defense and final thoughts. But Bill's d
• 1:11:12
  you mentioned extremely popular? What's the bill you mentioned earlier that's not extremely popular
• 1:11:15
  that you could easily pair with it most of you. This is the best
• 1:11:17
  part. People don't want the Josh Allen side. They don't want Stefan Diggs.
• 1:11:21
  They don't necessarily want Kinkaid or Knock still get mixed in a little bit
• 1:11:26
  for sure. But they do want Bills d They don't want James Cook.
• 1:11:30
  Most people do want defenses with their running back. People are still doing that
• 1:11:33
  all the time. So why not cut some of that Bill's d down ownership
• 1:11:36
  wise and throw Cook in with it and just use that yesterday everybody had Pacheco
• 1:11:42
  Chiefs. Why not go with Bills and have Cook? So I don't hate
• 1:11:45
  that either. Title defense thoughts and then final thoughts before we get out of
• 1:11:49
  here. Yeah, you guys covered up. I mean, it's such a
• 1:11:51
  varying position. Fortunately, one of these six are probably gonna put up ten
• 1:11:56
  more than everyone else, and you'll need them. I'm just gonna like Najie
• 1:12:00
  Harris and I'll be more likely to play Steelers defense James Cook, I'd be
• 1:12:03
  more likely to eat Bill's chalk. But at the end of the day,
• 1:12:05
  we see it all the time. Even these very high total dome games,
• 1:12:09
  points are put up. They sling it. There's a pick six I Oop's
• 1:12:13
  got the Detroit shirt on, so I think of the Raiders midway through the
• 1:12:15
  season when Raiders just outscore Detroit. I know Hoop had the second nut,
• 1:12:19
  so I hate to bring that up, but they're like very very very low
• 1:12:23
  owned. Not a great spot. One play that game changed everything in the
• 1:12:27
  game a couple of years back to scored like one hundred points in Mexico City
• 1:12:30
  and the defenses were needed. It's so random. I'll try and make make
• 1:12:35
  the defense make sense in my lineup and tell a story at the end of
• 1:12:38
  the day. That's all I'll be going about it. Darren got him,
• 1:12:41
  Darren got the good one. That's the only one that you can't like the
• 1:12:44
  worst? Is this the worst ever? Let me show the worst ever when
• 1:12:48
  you rhyme it with the same word like that's anybody could do that better than
• 1:12:53
  that. I've learned. Yeah, So all right, Hoop. Final thoughts
• 1:13:00
  this slate, man, before we get a title, did you give your
• 1:13:00
  I heard the defense by anything else you want to talk about? On the
• 1:13:03
  thoughts? It's a really really fun three game slate kind of like we talked
• 1:13:09
  about a two game site for a lot of people. By far that pitt
• 1:13:12
  Buffalo game will be the least owned. But even just with the Green Bay,
• 1:13:15
  Dallas and Rams Detroit, there's so many sort went tod and today?
• 1:13:19
  How about them coin coming at you on the way out title? They wait
• 1:13:23
  until the end of the shots. They wait. They don't want to say
• 1:13:27
  it early. They wait till he's doing his final thoughts and try and dunk
• 1:13:29
  on him. They didn't want to say it early. Hey, hey,
• 1:13:31
  big Mike, you'll find a way to lose that game and get the Packers
• 1:13:34
  a dumb a dub bookmark that. But I'm excited to know it's It's ownership
• 1:13:40
  is gonna be spread out, running back rooms, loaded wide receivers, is
• 1:13:43
  pretty concentrated for the cheap options. It's a fun slate for sure, and
• 1:13:46
  I very good. I don't know we said that yes yesterday. Flat Goos
• 1:13:49
  ownership was so different than I thought. I wouldn't be surprised at all.
• 1:13:54
  No quarterback came in over thirty five percent, But maybe something is really surprising
• 1:13:58
  out there. So overstep, leave a little salary. Make your lineup makes
• 1:14:02
  sense, and do remember Fandel has the Sunday and Monday both games the Tampa
• 1:14:06
  and Eagles on that slate as well. Check out ham slate planning and everything.
• 1:14:11
  But yeah, go pack, oh baby, yeah, go ahead,
• 1:14:15
  hoop. I see you saw one that you like bringing up. I mean,
• 1:14:17
  I regret, I regret going to the chat to finish off my rhyme
• 1:14:21
  at this point, I will say, definitely disappointed. So I shouldn't even
• 1:14:25
  have said that. But are some funny stuff. And I know the reason
• 1:14:29
  is so funny to me because I know you're asked to sit and reading these
• 1:14:31
  and you're just like, oh my gosh, this is just so pitiful.
• 1:14:34
  I won't say it out loud, will I see the disappointment. I see
• 1:14:39
  the disappointment on your face as he's just keep rolling in. Yeah, I'm
• 1:14:43
  reading them all. I always read the chat. Go ahead, your final
• 1:14:45
  thoughts on the site. Yeah, again, just talking about in the opening,
• 1:14:48
  I'm glad they kept this third game on FanDuel obviously has the fourth game
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  as well, and I mean it makes a hell of a difference in terms
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  of roster construction of what you do when we've got two games versus three.
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  And I'm gonna stick to my main point that I kind of talked about all
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  throughout this show. I think some combination of the Bills, whether it's Cooking
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  the defense or Josh Allen, ends up on the winner on the slate.
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  So I'm gonna I'm gonna make sure to have some Bills exposure, whether it's
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  Josh Allen to Diggs, Shakir Kincaid cook with the Bills defense, I think
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  some combination of that ends up on the winner. Just have a feeling.
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  So I'm gonna make sure to build some teams in that fashion, especially in
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  MM. Looking forward to it, I mean, we have some some really
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  good games, the Packers, Cowboys, Rams Lines. I'll be down there
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  routing on the squad tonight and then we have the two games tomorrow and we'll
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  are we going normal time for the show tomorrow, normal Monday time time slot
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  now that we've got the two games the same thing, Yeah, so to
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  eastern to eastern tomorrow, Yes, so yeah, we'll be too eastern breaking
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  down two games. It's supposed to be obviously the showdown slape, but we'll
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  be back doing the two games tomorrow as well. They released those prize pools
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  yet. I know I'm asking a lot of questions here in my closing,
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  but I haven't seen the big prize pools for the two gamer I'm assuming this
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  morning. I don't think I'm gonna just pull this real quick too. It's
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  got to be pretty big. I mean it's prime they don't have yet,
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  so they'll have some big prize pools. We'll be breaking it all down tomorrow.
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  Level our showdown content out for the Lions and Rams tonight as well.
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  Two games slate. Everything is essentially up. I'll be adding my player exposures
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  here this afternoon after we get the inactives in that first game. But good
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  luck to everyone, and again as always looking forward to seeing those ship at
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  Nation logos at the top. We had a lot of success last night.
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  We're going to finish off this weekend strung. Do you want to get in,
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  go to ship nation dot com. Use the promo code mayo that I'll
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  get you in for today. But the big stuff coming up, the PGA
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  memberships, all of those. I did see that one on the way out,
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  so good. That's pretty good. Bend over and cough. Well,
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  we'll end it with the night before Christmas Jay trying to make up for the
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  double rhyme of off. When goff is off, the fans will scuff.
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  You'll lose money quick. All your profit will be lost. That's gonna do
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  it for this one, guys, for title, for who, and for
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  myself. Don't tack a tambo let ship in