Latest / Reality with The King / ROBYN’S REVENGE TOUR | RHOP Recap with Claudia, Dustin & Blue
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- 0:03Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
- 0:06Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
- 0:10Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey,
- 0:13Speaker 1: and my own creation, the Love and Marriage franchise and
- 0:17Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
- 0:23Speaker 1: Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. in
- 0:27Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
- 0:31Speaker 1: scripted as well. Raindrops. We got Claudia as Arianne Curry,
- 0:40Speaker 1: Dustin Ross as Chris Fletcher, Blue Toulouse as Wendy Kill
- 0:46Speaker 1: Bill Osefo, and I am the point and the role
- 0:49Speaker 1: of Martel Holt, our Halloween edition of Monday Night Live.
- 0:53Speaker 1: Now we're getting into the Real Housewives of Potomac.
- 0:57Speaker 2: Let's do it.
- 0:58Speaker 3: I think I'm going to take this wig off.
- 0:59Speaker 1: It hurts. Take it off.
- 1:00Speaker 2: Take it off, Claudia.
- 1:01Speaker 4: It hurts?
- 1:02Speaker 3: Yes, because I got all these clips to make this
- 1:04Speaker 3: stupid ponytail be up like this. It's like a two-piece.
- 1:07Speaker 5: Well, now we know why she's testy on the show.
- 1:10Speaker 3: It's got this little piece. It's like a little comb.
- 1:13Speaker 4: Damn, that came off real fast.
- 1:15Speaker 1: Please, as we see her disrobe. Yes, she's back.
- 1:20Speaker 4: Take Martell's picture off, Claudia.
- 1:22Speaker 3: Oh, I am. That thing is coming down.
- 1:24Speaker 4: Hold on.
- 1:24Speaker 3: Let me put somebody else back there.
- 1:26Speaker 4: Hold on.
- 1:26Speaker 2: Let me see.
- 1:27Speaker 4: All right, Claude.
- 1:28Speaker 1: You give me the green eye band.
- 1:30Speaker 2: Put Stacey Abrams because people need to vote.
- 1:32Speaker 4: Yes, put Stacey Abrams. Yes.
- 1:35Speaker 2: The queen of Atlanta, Claudia.
- 1:36Speaker 3: Not Stacey Abrams. She's not running, you guys.
- 1:39Speaker 2: The queen of Atlanta. So what? She encouraged people to vote.
- 1:42Speaker 4: Wait, hold on.
- 1:43Speaker 2: We need the queen of Atlanta.
- 1:44Speaker 1: Stacey Abrams, the queen of Atlanta.
- 1:47Speaker 4: Martel look dumb in that damn hat is wow, wow, wow. Wait,
- 1:52Speaker 4: somebody said Blue is giving Tia.
- 1:57Speaker 2: Wait a minute.
- 1:58Speaker 4: Wait a minute. I had to screen up. No, I
- 2:01Speaker 4: don't want to see that. This is why I had
- 2:02Speaker 4: the comments. Not Tia. Taking it off.
- 2:04Speaker 3: I do not want to see Tia.
- 2:05Speaker 4: No. I want to get into the moment Karen....
- 2:15Speaker 2: It's not funny. Okay, Carlos.
- 2:18Speaker 1: Karen, I'm laughing at my panelists, not this particular topic.
- 2:22Speaker 4: Okay.
- 2:23Speaker 1: So, Karen said that her and Ray have been going
- 2:28Speaker 1: through issues before she even went to jail. So, Karen
- 2:33Speaker 1: was getting ready to go to see her therapist, which,
- 2:36Speaker 1: by the way, we love that that is something she's doing. So,
- 2:40Speaker 1: shout out to Karen for doing that. But as she's
- 2:42Speaker 1: getting ready, she does mention that her and Ray are
- 2:46Speaker 1: having issues and she decided not to film her therapy
- 2:50Speaker 1: session because she felt like she wanted to be able
- 2:54Speaker 1: to not worry about the cameras around her as she
- 2:58Speaker 1: was you know telling her truth and going deep with
- 3:03Speaker 1: her therapist which by the way I want to say
- 3:05Speaker 1: this y'all know I'm really big on following the reality
- 3:09Speaker 1: Karen gets an exception I applaud her for not allowing
- 3:14Speaker 1: cameras into her therapy session. Because based on what she
- 3:18Speaker 1: has gone through and based on what we know she,
- 3:22Speaker 1: you know, struggled with, having cameras in a therapy session
- 3:26Speaker 1: of that magnitude would have done more harm than good.
- 3:31Speaker 1: So I actually applaud her for not allowing cameras in there.
- 3:35Speaker 1: I respect it. And I'm so happy she did not
- 3:37Speaker 1: allow us to see something to where I know all
- 3:40Speaker 1: of us at the end of the day want Karen
- 3:42Speaker 1: to get the best help she can get and for
- 3:44Speaker 1: her to be well. But starting with you, Blue, are
- 3:49Speaker 1: you surprised that Ray and Karen are having issues? And
- 3:54Speaker 1: do you see a world where they can make it?
- 3:57Speaker 1: Because even at the Courtney's birthday dinner she had for
- 4:02Speaker 1: her husband, Karen didn't bring Ray. And she made it
- 4:07Speaker 1: very clear she did not want him to come. Because
- 4:09Speaker 1: she wanted to enjoy herself.
- 4:12Speaker 4: I think everybody has a breaking point. And I think
- 4:16Speaker 4: when you are someone who is really devoted, people forget
- 4:19Speaker 4: that you are human and that you can have a
- 4:21Speaker 4: breaking point. And I think she got so used to
- 4:23Speaker 4: his grace. It never occurred to her that he could
- 4:26Speaker 4: run out of it. Right. And I think the time
- 4:28Speaker 4: away might have revealed to him things about their relationship.
- 4:33Speaker 4: that had she not gone to jail, sorry, prison. I
- 4:36Speaker 4: don't know what the legal, what's the term? Is it jail, prison, clink, clink, lockup?
- 4:39Speaker 4: I know there's a difference.
- 4:41Speaker 2: Vacation.
- 4:41Speaker 4: I ain't got no street cred. Did she go to
- 4:43Speaker 4: jail or prison?
- 4:44Speaker 2: Vacation.
- 4:45Speaker 3: I think it was prison.
- 4:46Speaker 4: Okay, prison. The lockup. I think when you have a
- 4:50Speaker 4: codependent relationship where you're, I have a friend who always
- 4:53Speaker 4: says in certain relationships, especially old school relationships, one person
- 4:56Speaker 4: is the flower, the other person is the gardener. I
- 4:59Speaker 4: think he's used to being the gardener who's tended to
- 5:01Speaker 4: her and she's kind of been like the grand dame.
- 5:03Speaker 4: When she went away, I think they both got an
- 5:06Speaker 4: opportunity to actually come out of that haze. And I
- 5:08Speaker 4: don't think they'd be in this position had she not
- 5:11Speaker 4: been gone for so long. And I think there have
- 5:13Speaker 4: been rumors for, can we be honest? There have been
- 5:15Speaker 4: rumors for many seasons, y'all. As long as the show
- 5:18Speaker 4: has been around, there's been rumors of Karen with a
- 5:20Speaker 4: random man, a blonde man, a big back man, an
- 5:23Speaker 4: African man. It's always a random African man. There's always
- 5:25Speaker 4: some man that Karen has been seen at the hotel
- 5:28Speaker 4: bar with, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, right? And I think years
- 5:32Speaker 4: of that and her being there, not sex magic, I
- 5:35Speaker 4: think they're doing something else, but her being there to say, baby,
- 5:37Speaker 4: you know that trippin' X, Y, and Z? I think
- 5:39Speaker 4: their codependency trauma bond, and that's used correctly, got broken.
- 5:43Speaker 4: And I'm actually happy for them because I do think
- 5:46Speaker 4: that Ray is fighting for his dignity while Karen is
- 5:50Speaker 4: fighting for her healing. And I will say this, I
- 5:53Speaker 4: don't want to be cynical. I am the woman who's
- 5:54Speaker 4: always advocating for therapy. To Carlos's point, I am happy
- 5:58Speaker 4: that she didn't let us in the room for therapy. However,
- 6:00Speaker 4: there's a small cynical part of me that feels part
- 6:04Speaker 4: of the reason why is because she's experiencing an ego
- 6:06Speaker 4: death that doesn't fit her narrative. I think if therapy
- 6:10Speaker 4: was bringing up things That were more palatable. She might
- 6:14Speaker 4: have been more open. I think Karen is really starting
- 6:17Speaker 4: to realize just how self-serving she's been. She's starting to
- 6:21Speaker 4: realize how much pain she's hiding underneath her bravado. And
- 6:25Speaker 4: I think the pain is so shocking to her system
- 6:28Speaker 4: that as her ego is dying, she doesn't know how
- 6:31Speaker 4: to spin it. She's just having to sit in it.
- 6:34Speaker 4: So I hope that she's really sitting in it because
- 6:36Speaker 4: I miss rooting for Karen. I really, really do. But
- 6:39Speaker 4: I also recognize that Karen that I miss rooting for
- 6:41Speaker 4: was probably on the Hot Mess Express. And this newer
- 6:44Speaker 4: version of her, I'm rooting for it to be someone
- 6:45Speaker 4: that we can champion.
- 6:47Speaker 1: Actually, before I get to you, Dustin and Claudia, I
- 6:49Speaker 1: actually agree with you. I do think, listen, based on
- 6:54Speaker 1: the video footage we saw of her arrest, where she
- 6:59Speaker 1: told the police officers, I'm the Grand Dom and she
- 7:03Speaker 1: named drop Andy Cohen, right? I do believe you're onto
- 7:06Speaker 1: something in terms of an ego depth. I think, in
- 7:10Speaker 1: my opinion, I think Karen, you know, played up to
- 7:14Speaker 1: the title that was given to her.
- 7:17Speaker 4: And I.
- 7:19Speaker 1: Do believe that the reason why we're seeing a very
- 7:22Speaker 1: subdued side of Karen so far this season is because
- 7:27Speaker 1: of what you're saying, Blue, in terms of I think
- 7:31Speaker 1: she's trying to figure out who am I outside of
- 7:35Speaker 1: this Grand Dom character that I created for myself. Yeah.
- 7:38Speaker 1: From Bravo. Because everybody has said that's not really who
- 7:42Speaker 1: she is. Which is why they always made fun of
- 7:44Speaker 1: her because they're sort of like, We know you played
- 7:46Speaker 1: into this character, but now we think you actually believe it.
- 7:50Speaker 1: And I do think that therapy to your point, Blue,
- 7:53Speaker 1: is ego death. And I actually hope that it is.
- 7:55Speaker 1: Because I want Karen to get down to the root
- 7:58Speaker 1: of what she was going through so that she can
- 8:01Speaker 1: be her authentic self. And I'll end by saying this.
- 8:05Speaker 1: I ran into her last year and.
- 8:11Speaker 1: She was not the Karen that I saw on TV.
- 8:14Speaker 1: Not that it was a bad thing. She was very
- 8:16Speaker 1: just subdued and quiet. And she kept to herself. It
- 8:21Speaker 1: was a very, very different side. Claudia, we ran into
- 8:26Speaker 1: her at the Truth Awards. Oh, yeah. She sat at
- 8:30Speaker 1: our table. Karen was very.
- 8:32Speaker 4: Who.
- 8:34Speaker 1: Karen is now in real life. She's not the Grand Dame.
- 8:39Speaker 1: And when I say the Grand Dame, meaning this big character,
- 8:42Speaker 1: she's very different. And when I'm saying that, that's a
- 8:47Speaker 1: compliment is what I'm trying to say. Claudia, what are
- 8:52Speaker 1: your thoughts?
- 8:53Speaker 3: I think it's sad that I think her and Ray
- 8:57Speaker 3: are very unhappy in their relationship. And I don't know
- 9:01Speaker 3: why they think they need to... I hope it's not
- 9:03Speaker 3: for the TV audience, but I do understand the pressures
- 9:05Speaker 3: of needing to keep up appearances. But it's so obvious.
- 9:09Speaker 3: She do her thing. And he's saying that he doesn't
- 9:12Speaker 3: find her fun now that she's sober. Oh, my God.
- 9:16Speaker 3: That part, I was like, oh, man.
- 9:19Speaker 2: I couldn't believe he said that. I know.
- 9:21Speaker 3: I'm like, the thing that she struggled with the most...
- 9:25Speaker 3: Your partner is against you getting better. That's like enemy
- 9:29Speaker 3: in my house, sleeping with the enemy. And then she's like, eh,
- 9:34Speaker 3: about him. I just feel like they need to just
- 9:37Speaker 3: cut their losses and split up. And he can be,
- 9:42Speaker 3: go get whoever he want to get with. And she
- 9:44Speaker 3: can go openly be with who she wants to be with.
- 9:47Speaker 3: You're out of age. I hate when older people, and
- 9:49Speaker 3: I'm damn near one of them, my damn self. feel like, oh,
- 9:52Speaker 3: at this age, I'll just ride off into the sunset. No,
- 9:55Speaker 3: you can still start over with someone else or just
- 9:57Speaker 3: have no one. But to be on TV... saying that
- 10:01Speaker 3: sober Karen is not as fun when that is a
- 10:04Speaker 3: thing that's the basis of a lot of her problems,
- 10:08Speaker 3: I was like, oh, that sucks. And you could tell
- 10:11Speaker 3: she lost her respect for him, the way she talks
- 10:13Speaker 3: about him. And it just feels like she don't really
- 10:17Speaker 3: like him and he don't really like her.
- 10:20Speaker 4: You think that was a dig intentionally? Because sometimes people
- 10:23Speaker 4: will say the most painful thing on purpose, not because
- 10:26Speaker 4: they mean it, but because they want to hurt you back.
- 10:29Speaker 3: I mean, saying that I'm no fun. First of all,
- 10:32Speaker 3: if I didn't have, if you don't have the backstory
- 10:35Speaker 3: of the jail, prison, the most embarrassing thing that ever
- 10:38Speaker 3: happened in your life, even without that backstory, still someone,
- 10:42Speaker 3: any of your friends ever say, oh, I like drunk
- 10:44Speaker 3: blue better or whatever. You'd be like, oh damn, my
- 10:46Speaker 3: regular personality ain't cool. Like, He said that on TV
- 10:50Speaker 3: with y'all over there. He wanted to hurt her. But
- 10:54Speaker 3: you know what? She said stuff about him. You know
- 10:56Speaker 3: what I'm saying? When you get to that point, y'all
- 10:59Speaker 3: might as well just go y'all's separate way.
- 11:01Speaker 2: Absolutely.
- 11:02Speaker 3: Or just have two different bedrooms and maybe be up
- 11:04Speaker 3: on the same roof, but be able to go date
- 11:07Speaker 3: because I would not want that.
- 11:09Speaker 5: I think that's exactly what the issue is. Not wanting that.
- 11:14Speaker 5: Let's zoom out and look at the bigger picture, right?
- 11:17Speaker 5: Karen and Ray Huger been married for 30 goddamn years.
- 11:20Speaker 5: You get six plus months of separation, deep thought, and
- 11:27Speaker 5: worry-free porn viewing. Karen was in jail looking at porn
- 11:32Speaker 5: and Ray was in that house beating his, and they
- 11:34Speaker 5: both looking at it.
- 11:35Speaker 2: She came home and they both, sick of your ass.
- 11:39Speaker 5: You got six months uninterrupted to think about everything you've
- 11:43Speaker 5: been sick of for the last 30 motherfucking years.
- 11:45Speaker 2: When you reunited and it feels so bad. Okay.
- 11:49Speaker 5: That's what happened. They had time to reflect and review.
- 11:52Speaker 5: And I don't think either one of them had a
- 11:54Speaker 5: favorable review. It was very one star on Yelp-ish. And
- 11:58Speaker 5: I think that now that they're forced to cohabitate because
- 12:02Speaker 5: they didn't plan for a divorce at this point, this
- 12:05Speaker 5: is where we at with it. And the fact that
- 12:07Speaker 5: Ray be laughing, I was watching that with one of
- 12:09Speaker 5: my friends and my friend was like, every time he
- 12:12Speaker 5: say something fucked up to her, he'd be smiling and laughing.
- 12:15Speaker 2: And I noticed that, like he does. But that's it.
- 12:18Speaker 5: I think they both was quiet on their own, like
- 12:21Speaker 5: Michael McDonald.
- 12:22Speaker 2: And Patti LaBelle.
- 12:23Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
- 12:25Speaker 2: How did it end this way? They was both whacking
- 12:27Speaker 2: it and watching it.
- 12:29Speaker 5: And then they walked and looked at each other naked
- 12:31Speaker 5: that first time and was like, went on, went on.
- 12:35Speaker 2: I think that's what happened.
- 12:37Speaker 3: And does, you know, when you have time off from someone,
- 12:41Speaker 3: When they go to work and then they come home,
- 12:42Speaker 3: you'd be like, damn it, go back out.
- 12:44Speaker 4: Wait, is that Shamar Moore? What is going on, Claudia?
- 12:48Speaker 2: What the hell?
- 12:51Speaker 3: I had Anthony Joshua up there, but.
- 12:53Speaker 4: What is this show?
- 12:54Speaker 3: I'm blurry. My man, my man, my man. Claudia, I know.
- 13:02Speaker 2: Claudia is crazy.
- 13:04Speaker 1: You went from piece of land to bottom.
- 13:08Speaker 4: Yo, Claudia, your ADHD is loud today.
- 13:12Speaker 3: I hit menopause today, you guys.
- 13:14Speaker 4: Today.
- 13:15Speaker 3: Congratulations.
- 13:17Speaker 1: Congratulations, audience.
- 13:18Speaker 3: Now, if this period would just stop, I'd be telling
- 13:21Speaker 3: this because I.
- 13:21Speaker 4: Don't need it. You're a woman now.
- 13:24Speaker 3: Right.
- 13:25Speaker 1: So, let's get into Giselle, Ashley, and Robin's scene.
- 13:31Speaker 4: Uh-oh, not Steve Abrams.
- 13:33Speaker 1: I can't.
- 13:35Speaker 2: QOA, baby. Queen of Atlanta.
- 13:38Speaker 1: What is this show, y'all? The Queen of Atlanta, Stacey Abrams, baby!
- 13:41Speaker 2: The one and only.
- 13:43Speaker 5: A long time ago, Carlos was talking about a conversation
- 13:46Speaker 5: on love and hip-hop between.
- 13:47Speaker 2: Yandy and Rashida.
- 13:50Speaker 5: And we had a conversation on the show about who
- 13:52Speaker 5: was the Queen of Atlanta online, and we asked the audience.
- 13:55Speaker 5: People were saying things like Monica, Tiny, you know, all
- 13:59Speaker 5: the Nene, you know, all the expected names.
- 14:01Speaker 2: And then Claudia asked, was reading the comments, is she
- 14:03Speaker 2: gonna say that? Somebody said Stacey Abrams. was the queen
- 14:09Speaker 2: of Atlanta blue so it's just been oh.
- 14:11Speaker 3: No trust me I'm they have made sure that I
- 14:13Speaker 3: know no let me give her a better picture she
- 14:15Speaker 3: deserves a better picture let.
- 14:16Speaker 2: Me yeah she does I mean.
- 14:17Speaker 6: She almost became vice president what's happening okay so Giselle
- 14:23Speaker 6: Ashley and Robin met um Robin tells Giselle that Wendy
- 14:27Speaker 6: is not happy about them talking about her situation on
- 14:31Speaker 6: their podcast reasonably shady um And Robin said, look, I
- 14:38Speaker 6: spoke to Wendy.
- 14:39Speaker 1: I get how she feels. Like, what if I was
- 14:42Speaker 1: in her shoes? Giselle said, Robin, you will never be
- 14:46Speaker 1: in Wendy's shoes because you are not a scammer. Ashley
- 14:52Speaker 1: enters the scene. And out of nowhere, we learn that
- 14:56Speaker 1: Giselle told Ashley that Robin ain't fooling with you. And
- 15:01Speaker 1: Robin gagged and didn't deny it, but she also did
- 15:05Speaker 1: not admit to it either. Dustin, starting with you. What
- 15:12Speaker 1: were your thoughts about this Giselle, Ashton, Robin scene? Because
- 15:16Speaker 1: it's sort of like what I'm picking up on. We're
- 15:20Speaker 1: really going to get into the Giselle and Robin of
- 15:23Speaker 1: it all this season.
- 15:24Speaker 5: Oh, we're going to get into the Robin versus fuck
- 15:26Speaker 5: all y'all of it this season. What we saw is
- 15:29Speaker 5: the OGs going to work. They all came to work
- 15:31Speaker 5: ready to get down. Giselle was the only person that
- 15:34Speaker 5: was caught off guard. Although Giselle had me laughing this
- 15:37Speaker 5: entire fucking episode, this was one of her funniest episodes.
- 15:42Speaker 5: It also highlighted some really crappy behavior, you know what
- 15:46Speaker 5: I'm saying, on her behalf. And this new version of
- 15:49Speaker 5: Robin that has come back, and I believe Robin when
- 15:52Speaker 5: she said after time away from the show, you look
- 15:54Speaker 5: at this differently because you realize how much this blurs
- 15:59Speaker 5: into the lines of real life or something to that effect.
- 16:01Speaker 5: And I believe she was sincere when she said that
- 16:04Speaker 5: Robin has come back as a totally different person than
- 16:07Speaker 5: she was seasons one through.
- 16:09Speaker 2: Did she leave after eight or nine, Carlos?
- 16:11Speaker 1: Well, the one thing I love about Robin, she admitted
- 16:14Speaker 1: she got fired.
- 16:15Speaker 2: Yeah, she did.
- 16:16Speaker 1: Robin got fired right before season eight.
- 16:21Speaker 4: Not fired in Cap Locks. Robin got fired.
- 16:24Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying. I didn't mean it like that. Robin,
- 16:28Speaker 1: did I mean like that? Don't chin check me again.
- 16:31Speaker 5: Yeah, but Robin showed up ready to play as a
- 16:35Speaker 5: friend of this season. And this is the most I
- 16:37Speaker 5: have ever enjoyed her on this show. I love this
- 16:40Speaker 5: version of Robin. And I want to be clear, it's
- 16:42Speaker 5: not rooted in the fact that she's quote unquote challenging
- 16:45Speaker 5: Giselle or holding Giselle accountable. She's just moving completely different
- 16:49Speaker 5: than she has ever moved on this show amongst this cast.
- 16:52Speaker 2: She's having meaningful conversations.
- 16:54Speaker 5: Not sitting up making noise and doing stupid ass dances
- 16:58Speaker 5: and just meaningless stuff, right? Like she's literally clocked in,
- 17:03Speaker 5: so to speak. And it's been very, very, very good
- 17:06Speaker 5: to see.
- 17:07Speaker 2: So shout out to Robyn.
- 17:08Speaker 5: She's having a great season thus far. It almost makes
- 17:11Speaker 5: me wonder why they didn't go ahead and make her
- 17:13Speaker 5: a housewife, to be honest with you.
- 17:15Speaker 1: I can answer that.
- 17:16Speaker 2: I can answer that.
- 17:18Speaker 1: To give Robyn back, here's the deal. And this is
- 17:22Speaker 1: me being a producer.
- 17:23Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
- 17:23Speaker 1: When you bring on an OG back to the fold
- 17:26Speaker 1: is what I did with Sharae. When I came back
- 17:28Speaker 1: season eight, I told them I want to bring Sharae
- 17:31Speaker 1: with me. They said, okay, fine. And then she wasn't
- 17:36Speaker 1: a friend that season. Because you want to test the
- 17:39Speaker 1: OG to see, like, do they still have what it takes?
- 17:42Speaker 1: And I will say this. I think Robin is doing
- 17:45Speaker 1: great because... She has been gone for a few years,
- 17:50Speaker 1: which is why I do believe that not all, 90%
- 17:53Speaker 1: of housewives after a certain milestone should have an automatic
- 17:57Speaker 1: break because you should miss it. And it's what Robin said. Like,
- 18:04Speaker 1: being in this group, you lose sight of real life.
- 18:07Speaker 1: And I think Robin... has gained sight of real life
- 18:11Speaker 1: and she sees things differently. And I don't think that
- 18:17Speaker 1: a housewife is in Robin's future because I think based, again,
- 18:21Speaker 1: on the godmother, Cynthia Bailey of Atlanta, it makes sense
- 18:26Speaker 1: with Robin. And if I was Robin and the producers....
- 18:31Speaker 2: You know what?
- 18:31Speaker 1: Fuck the producers. If I was Robin, I would beg
- 18:35Speaker 1: them and say, do not make me a housewife. The
- 18:38Speaker 1: first time ever, I am liked by the audience. Let
- 18:45Speaker 1: me ride this off into the sunset. I think Robin
- 18:48Speaker 1: is doing a fabulous job. Claudia, what are your thoughts
- 18:51Speaker 1: on Robin and Giselle's friendship?
- 18:53Speaker 2: And do you see....
- 18:55Speaker 1: Do you see that they may be at odds based
- 18:59Speaker 1: on just Robin calling Giselle out? And like Dustin said,
- 19:04Speaker 1: Giselle doesn't gag when people confront her or call her out,
- 19:07Speaker 1: but she does when Robin does it, and I like it.
- 19:09Speaker 1: Hell yeah.
- 19:10Speaker 3: It's about to be a wrap for them. First of all.
- 19:13Speaker 1: First of all, Claudia and Stacey.
- 19:15Speaker 4: Oh my God, Claudia. Jesus Christ.
- 19:18Speaker 3: The queen of Atlanta.
- 19:20Speaker 2: The motherfucking queen of Atlanta. You better know it.
- 19:22Speaker 4: Miss Juicy?
- 19:23Speaker 1: I didn't say that it was Stacey Abrams. They did,
- 19:26Speaker 1: because Miss Juicy, baby, called me instead of Sarah Chalmers.
- 19:29Speaker 4: Go ahead, boo.
- 19:29Speaker 3: Do you want me to put Miss Juicy up there?
- 19:31Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying?
- 19:33Speaker 4: Yes.
- 19:33Speaker 1: Okay, I will.
- 19:34Speaker 5: And you know she got selfies all over her page,
- 19:38Speaker 5: so yes.
- 19:42Speaker 3: Listen, y'all know I've been liking Robin, so I love
- 19:47Speaker 3: that she is her own woman, and I love that
- 19:50Speaker 3: she's not being judged because people don't like, some people
- 19:52Speaker 3: don't like Giselle. So they just instantly throw Robin in there.
- 19:55Speaker 3: Like they just put them as two peas in the pod.
- 19:57Speaker 3: She's showing y'all, okay, I got y'all two peas in
- 19:59Speaker 3: the pod. I have my own brain.
- 20:01Speaker 1: Yes.
- 20:02Speaker 3: I have my own brain and she's showing it. She's
- 20:04Speaker 3: not afraid of anyone. And I love this. That scene
- 20:08Speaker 3: with Ashley and Giselle, they looked real petty and real childish,
- 20:12Speaker 3: and Robin looked like the adult in the room. And
- 20:15Speaker 3: I was very proud of her. I was like, oh,
- 20:17Speaker 3: this was exciting. And it looked like they're going to
- 20:20Speaker 3: be ganging up on her. It looked like this is
- 20:24Speaker 3: just the beginning, the tip of the iceberg, and that
- 20:28Speaker 3: it's going to be, I think she's going to give
- 20:30Speaker 3: a good season. And I think at the end of this,
- 20:33Speaker 3: people will probably be wanting, they'll probably want more of
- 20:35Speaker 3: her in this. And I don't know if she should
- 20:37Speaker 3: have taken it or not take it, whatever. But I
- 20:40Speaker 3: love when she comes, every scene she's been in, she's kilted.
- 20:43Speaker 2: Every single scene.
- 20:44Speaker 3: She's taken, she's actually being low key, a little bit
- 20:47Speaker 3: of a scene stealer and not even trying. Like it
- 20:51Speaker 3: seems a little low key, effortless. She's effortlessly doing it.
- 20:55Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 20:56Speaker 3: She's not trying. She's like, she's reacting in real time. She's,
- 21:00Speaker 3: the way she was shocked to hear that her good Judy, Giselle,
- 21:04Speaker 3: was kind of playing, like, yo, Giselle got exposed as
- 21:06Speaker 3: being messy and talking about her friend. And I think
- 21:11Speaker 3: Rob needed to hear that. It needed to happen on camera.
- 21:15Speaker 1: This is Reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
- 21:18Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show. Blue?
- 21:23Speaker 4: You guys know how, I think we all have this
- 21:25Speaker 4: in common. We say things to ourselves or in our
- 21:27Speaker 4: group chat, like, There are people in this industry or
- 21:30Speaker 4: people in this world who the only reason they are
- 21:32Speaker 4: doing okay is because we keep our mouth shut. The
- 21:35Speaker 4: only reason you pop is because I haven't told people
- 21:37Speaker 4: who you really are. I think two things have happened.
- 21:40Speaker 2: And if you're watching.
- 21:44Speaker 4: There's many of you. I know y'all are watching because
- 21:46Speaker 4: y'all are monitoring spirits. We all have people in the
- 21:48Speaker 4: industry who are only living and eating because we haven't
- 21:50Speaker 4: said shit, right? What people had a problem with Robin
- 21:54Speaker 4: was valid is that she was complicit. And to Claudia's point,
- 21:58Speaker 4: I think the years that she's been away, she's now
- 22:01Speaker 4: recognizing how complicit she was. And I don't remember the exact,
- 22:04Speaker 4: and I'll look it up later, there was an incident
- 22:06Speaker 4: that happened where something was said on the show where
- 22:08Speaker 4: Giselle threw Robin under the bus and then the receipts
- 22:11Speaker 4: showed that it was actually Giselle. I can't remember what
- 22:13Speaker 4: it was. Oh, yeah.
- 22:15Speaker 1: It was when the whole thing with Wendy and Eddie,
- 22:19Speaker 1: Eddie cheating and.
- 22:20Speaker 5: Yes.
- 22:20Speaker 1: Yes. So here's the thing.
- 22:22Speaker 4: I got fired, as Carl said, with the cap locks on.
- 22:25Speaker 4: I got fired with a capital F. I'm gone. And
- 22:28Speaker 4: while I'm gone, you're using me as a scapegoat for
- 22:31Speaker 4: stuff that's on camera that you said. And when I
- 22:33Speaker 4: come back, you still think I'm going to be sitting
- 22:35Speaker 4: up here having your back the way you didn't have mine?
- 22:38Speaker 4: While you're gallivanting with Wendy because she was number... No, no, no, no, no.
- 22:40Speaker 4: You don't replace me with Ashley. You didn't make up
- 22:43Speaker 4: with Wendy. You lied on me. Now, we're telling the
- 22:46Speaker 4: truth right now. And I want to say this. Two
- 22:47Speaker 4: things happened in this episode that if you had told
- 22:49Speaker 4: me a year ago, I would not have believed. Robyn
- 22:53Speaker 4: is my favorite so far this season, outside of Stacey,
- 22:56Speaker 4: who you know I love, and Wendy, who was innocent.
- 22:58Speaker 4: And Gisele looked the fuck good. Off topic, Gisele, whoever
- 23:03Speaker 4: your stylist is, double their salary and beg them not
- 23:06Speaker 4: to leave you. This is the first time in the
- 23:09Speaker 4: whole history of you being on these shows where I'm
- 23:11Speaker 4: living for your fashions and your wigs at the same time.
- 23:13Speaker 4: It's usually one or the other, okay? So anyways, back
- 23:16Speaker 4: to Robyn. Robyn is doing an amazing job. I think
- 23:19Speaker 4: she is a scene stealer. I also think she grew
- 23:22Speaker 4: the fuck up. And I just looked at the calendar.
- 23:25Speaker 4: For you guys, two weeks from now is my one-year
- 23:27Speaker 4: anniversary on the show where Carlos asked me to come on,
- 23:30Speaker 4: and I thought it was a one-off. And then he
- 23:31Speaker 4: kept on texting me, and I was like, oh, so
- 23:33Speaker 4: this is what's been happening.
- 23:35Speaker 3: I had no idea.
- 23:36Speaker 4: I thought I was just coming on here for a
- 23:38Speaker 4: quick kiki with the girls. It's been like, you know,
- 23:40Speaker 4: 51 weeks now. But anyways, when I came on 50
- 23:44Speaker 4: weeks ago, not knowing I was getting into a relationship,
- 23:47Speaker 4: Libras will do that to you. They keep asking me
- 23:49Speaker 4: to dinner.
- 23:49Speaker 2: Ha!
- 23:50Speaker 4: One of the first things I said was how a
- 23:53Speaker 4: certain reality star, if she just course corrected, you'd be
- 23:56Speaker 4: stunned by how much the audience would have her back.
- 23:59Speaker 4: We have been saying this for seasons now, for Potomac,
- 24:03Speaker 4: for Atlanta. We constantly say, girl, you can fix this.
- 24:08Speaker 4: And they always act like, no, there's nothing I can do, right?
- 24:11Speaker 4: Robin Dixon has now proven forevermore it is possible to
- 24:15Speaker 4: be despised. Catch a breath. Pivot, come back better, and
- 24:20Speaker 4: be welcome with open arms. So the rest of you
- 24:22Speaker 4: hoes ain't got no excuse. Robin is showing you how
- 24:24Speaker 4: it's done. 10s on 10s, I love it. Or 10s
- 24:26Speaker 4: on 20s, like Claudia says.
- 24:27Speaker 3: 10 on 20, yep, that's right.
- 24:30Speaker 1: Claudia, Miss Juicy.
- 24:32Speaker 4: Oh my God, Claudia, what the fuck?
- 24:36Speaker 3: Miss Juicy, baby. Why does that.
- 24:39Speaker 4: Picture look like you shrunk Stacey Abrams? What is that?
- 24:41Speaker 2: Okay.
- 24:42Speaker 1: I'm done. Not too much, Blue. Anyway, getting into.
- 24:49Speaker 1: So Tia's mother is in town and... Come on.
- 24:57Speaker 5: Rob on that phone. The shots of her husband on
- 25:00Speaker 5: the phone in that house.
- 25:02Speaker 1: We'll get to that. Listen, I feel like every week
- 25:06Speaker 1: I'm the one that has to say the thing about Tia. Look, Tia,
- 25:11Speaker 1: I'm going to give you a tens later when you
- 25:12Speaker 1: read Giselle. So I'm going to just know that's coming.
- 25:16Speaker 1: But I got to be myself and I got to
- 25:17Speaker 1: be authentic to me like how I wish you were
- 25:20Speaker 1: authentic on this show. So Tia's mom is in town.
- 25:26Speaker 1: And once again, Tia informs the audience that off-camera... She
- 25:31Speaker 1: told her mother what was going on with her husband
- 25:35Speaker 1: and the dating apps. And she said that her mom
- 25:39Speaker 1: told her that, you know, pretty much she was on
- 25:45Speaker 1: her husband's side and how she feels that her mother
- 25:52Speaker 1: loves Rob more than her. And then we see them
- 25:57Speaker 1: going to the house. We see Rob there. And once again,
- 26:02Speaker 1: for the third week in a row, Tia is having
- 26:07Speaker 1: off-camera conversations, but wants to tell us in her confession
- 26:11Speaker 1: of what she should be getting paid to do on camera. Listen,
- 26:16Speaker 1: I'm really trying to find the things to give Tia
- 26:21Speaker 1: when it comes to her personal story. I promise you guys,
- 26:26Speaker 1: I don't care what happens next week when Wendy does...
- 26:29Speaker 1: the great thing and ask the questions. I'm not here
- 26:32Speaker 1: for Tia as a full-time housewife because my thing is this,
- 26:37Speaker 1: you have to be more than just reading a girl.
- 26:39Speaker 1: So you reading Giselle, which was funny. It was also
- 26:42Speaker 1: something that I felt like, okay, girl, Giselle is the
- 26:46Speaker 1: butt of the joke. That is an easy read because
- 26:49Speaker 1: the audience will love you for it. So her reading
- 26:52Speaker 1: Giselle to me was sort of like, I enjoyed it,
- 26:55Speaker 1: but I'm not giving you 10s with that. I just
- 26:58Speaker 1: can't give this woman 10s for the third week in
- 27:01Speaker 1: a row. You told us you spoke to Rob off
- 27:04Speaker 1: camera about it. Now we know you spoke to your
- 27:08Speaker 1: mom off camera about it. So your mom being here,
- 27:12Speaker 1: I don't care to see y'all home life.
- 27:14Speaker 2: It's B-roll at this point.
- 27:16Speaker 1: It's B-roll. It's not even a webisode. It's not a
- 27:20Speaker 1: peacock vertical. It's not something that I care to see
- 27:24Speaker 1: on Instagram.
- 27:25Speaker 3: Not a vertical.
- 27:26Speaker 2: It's not a vertical.
- 27:28Speaker 1: You know, Tia, but you know, she's giving nothing. But
- 27:33Speaker 1: once again, all I see is the audience saying, well,
- 27:36Speaker 1: give her time. I gave her time. Her check was
- 27:39Speaker 1: on time. So y'all, not you three, the audience, y'all
- 27:44Speaker 1: can give her her 10th. Y'all can say she's amazing.
- 27:48Speaker 1: The way y'all act, she's the best thing since Nene Leakes, child.
- 27:51Speaker 1: She is the queen of Potomac, honey. Watch out, Miss Juicy.
- 27:54Speaker 1: She may dominate Atlanta, honey. She may run for office, child.
- 27:59Speaker 1: Because the way this audience praise her for doing the least,
- 28:03Speaker 1: I'm not here for it. I'm not here for it.
- 28:05Speaker 1: Where's Mama Joyce? Where's Mama D? Where is Miss Wanda?
- 28:09Speaker 1: You know, where's Pastor Pollard? Like, where are these conversations
- 28:16Speaker 1: that we got to have on camera? So thank God
- 28:20Speaker 1: next week, I had to wait four weeks, four weeks
- 28:24Speaker 1: for a full-time housewife to have a conversation about her
- 28:29Speaker 1: husband's infidelity because Dr. Wendy clocked in and decided to
- 28:33Speaker 1: do it for you. But hey- Give her y'all 10s, audience.
- 28:38Speaker 1: She's everything. She took down Gisele Bryant. Whoopty the fuck do.
- 28:43Speaker 1: Starting with you, Claudia, what are your thoughts on that scene?
- 28:47Speaker 3: You know, I find it frustrating to see someone half-assed
- 28:49Speaker 3: working when you got to sit down and work. When
- 28:53Speaker 3: someone gets to leave a scene or not work or
- 28:55Speaker 3: have a half day because they don't feel like it
- 28:57Speaker 3: or not clock in. I have a lot of questions
- 28:59Speaker 3: about that. What happened to his hair? Every week, follicles
- 29:02Speaker 3: are just running from him. She's giving as much storyline
- 29:05Speaker 3: as he's giving follicles every single week. And off camera, girl,
- 29:10Speaker 3: make a journal, make a diary. Maybe she should do
- 29:13Speaker 3: some stories or something. Give us something. At least, you
- 29:16Speaker 3: know when you don't do it on camera, but maybe
- 29:18Speaker 3: you have the home cam and you're like, all right, guys. Today,
- 29:21Speaker 3: I just spoke to Rob, and he just told me
- 29:23Speaker 3: that the dating app thing, it was not what I
- 29:26Speaker 3: thought it was.
- 29:27Speaker 4: Just give us something.
- 29:28Speaker 3: Give us something, girl. We want to like you. We
- 29:30Speaker 3: like your British accent. We like kids. We used to
- 29:32Speaker 3: like your husband until he took his hat off. And now,
- 29:34Speaker 3: I'm just like, what is going on?
- 29:36Speaker 4: We get nothing.
- 29:36Speaker 3: You can't be like this every week, because if that's
- 29:37Speaker 3: what you want, you can't be like this every week.
- 29:40Speaker 3: the case, I'm sorry, give the, what do they get? Apples, peaches?
- 29:43Speaker 3: What they get over there in that show?
- 29:45Speaker 2: Champlain flute.
- 29:46Speaker 1: Huh?
- 29:47Speaker 2: Champlain flute.
- 29:48Speaker 3: Well, don't give the flute, don't give it to Karen,
- 29:50Speaker 3: but give that flute to, what's her name? To Robin.
- 29:54Speaker 4: I'm just saying.
- 29:56Speaker 3: Give it to someone who's clocking in. She's not clocking
- 29:59Speaker 3: in and we This was from the first episode we
- 30:02Speaker 3: heard about your man being on Ryo or Grindr or
- 30:04Speaker 3: Tinder or whatever the hell app he's on. And we
- 30:07Speaker 3: still haven't had a conversation with y'all? Tia, it's not hate, though.
- 30:11Speaker 3: We like you. I like you. I think you could
- 30:13Speaker 3: have a lot of potential with your accent, the way
- 30:15Speaker 3: you say things. But you showed us last season you
- 30:18Speaker 3: are quick to flip-flop and switch up on a bitch.
- 30:20Speaker 3: And now you are refusing all this tough-ass, tough talk.
- 30:24Speaker 3: You are refusing to hold the one person accountable anymore.
- 30:28Speaker 3: That owes you the most accountability and loyalty, your own husband.
- 30:31Speaker 3: And I think it's sad to watch a sister do
- 30:33Speaker 3: these scenes half-assed. I know you don't want to exploit it,
- 30:36Speaker 3: but that's kind of what you signed up for, sister.
- 30:38Speaker 3: I hate to tell you, you signed up for this.
- 30:41Speaker 3: You signed up for this. So come on, girl. Check him.
- 30:45Speaker 3: Talk to him about it. Have a conversation. Because it's
- 30:48Speaker 3: giving half-ass.
- 30:52Speaker 5: At least call him a crumpet on camera. You know
- 30:55Speaker 5: what I'm saying? You motherfucking bloody crumpet. They don't say motherfucker.
- 31:00Speaker 5: They say bloody.
- 31:01Speaker 3: Well, motherfucking.
- 31:02Speaker 2: You bloody crumpet.
- 31:03Speaker 3: Some good green shade, right?
- 31:05Speaker 5: Yeah, like, we need to hear that shit. And Carlos
- 31:07Speaker 5: is right. Claudia's right. Boo's right.
- 31:10Speaker 2: We need, we just need the total.
- 31:13Speaker 5: Tia is circumventing the actual conversation or the actual dialogue.
- 31:18Speaker 5: I don't, Claudia made a great point that it would
- 31:20Speaker 5: be nice to see her husband take some accountability, but,
- 31:23Speaker 5: but that I'm not even going that far into it.
- 31:26Speaker 5: I would simply like to see them discuss it on camera.
- 31:29Speaker 5: That would, that would make the story feel more cohesive.
- 31:32Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying? So we would have loved
- 31:34Speaker 5: to have seen a conversation like that. I don't, yeah,
- 31:37Speaker 5: it's really no excuse.
- 31:39Speaker 2: And Tia, your hair looked great.
- 31:41Speaker 3: Her hair.
- 31:43Speaker 5: Tia's hair look great. Yeah, Tia's hair look great.
- 31:46Speaker 4: Oh my God. I have some tea from the Brits.
- 31:50Speaker 4: We have a British watcher, so one of my friends,
- 31:51Speaker 4: I have a lot of friends from across the pond,
- 31:54Speaker 4: and one of them pulled me aside and said, Blue,
- 31:57Speaker 4: one of the things you guys are not understanding about
- 31:59Speaker 4: Tia as a black British person is, it's not just
- 32:02Speaker 4: her accent, it's the type of accent. So apparently we're
- 32:04Speaker 4: in the street, and by the street I mean the
- 32:06Speaker 4: cobblestone streets in the UK. Tia has an upper accent,
- 32:11Speaker 4: like the kind of accent where your parents have to
- 32:13Speaker 4: pay 60K a year for you to go to school.
- 32:16Speaker 2: Dope.
- 32:17Speaker 4: She has one of those accents. So it's not just
- 32:19Speaker 4: any old, it's not like a chimney sweep from Mary Poppins'
- 32:22Speaker 4: British accent. So someone whose parents are paying a whole
- 32:27Speaker 4: salary for them to go to school, who used to
- 32:29Speaker 4: work at Sotheby's, whose father had fancy cars and was
- 32:32Speaker 4: living down the street from celebrities. Tia is a slave
- 32:35Speaker 4: to optics, and I think what's happening is, in the
- 32:38Speaker 4: same way that Claudia mentioned earlier, sometimes an actor makes
- 32:40Speaker 4: a horrible reality star because they're stuck in being performative,
- 32:43Speaker 4: or sometimes a smart person is so smart they forget
- 32:46Speaker 4: to feel or just be real. I think Tia is
- 32:49Speaker 4: so stuck on optics, it still bothers me when she said,
- 32:53Speaker 4: that Wendy married up. Something about that comment.
- 32:56Speaker 2: I didn't like that either.
- 32:57Speaker 4: It's like gristle in my mouth. It was like she
- 32:58Speaker 4: was telling on herself that the optics really, really matter
- 33:01Speaker 4: to her. And I think no weapon formed against Stacey
- 33:05Speaker 4: shall prosper.
- 33:06Speaker 2: At all.
- 33:07Speaker 4: Last season, your whole storyline was trying to spill the
- 33:10Speaker 4: tea about Stacey and Tiamo, whatever his name is. Now
- 33:14Speaker 4: her and Couric.
- 33:14Speaker 1: What's his name?
- 33:15Speaker 4: Tiamo?
- 33:16Speaker 3: Timo.
- 33:16Speaker 4: There we go. Timo. Her and Timo. Now they engaged
- 33:20Speaker 4: and about to be ex-husband, ex-wife, boyfriend slash fiancés.
- 33:23Speaker 2: They happy.
- 33:24Speaker 4: You were throwing all this shade on them, and they
- 33:26Speaker 4: told you to mind your business and are prospering. Meanwhile,
- 33:29Speaker 4: your man's hairline looks like Anthony Hamilton's beard, and now
- 33:32Speaker 4: you up here trying to give us scraps of leftovers. Tia,
- 33:35Speaker 4: I'm going to say this. The reads are great. I'm
- 33:38Speaker 4: sure you probably have been practicing them and it hit,
- 33:41Speaker 4: it hit, right? The rehearsals were not wasted. And however, comma,
- 33:45Speaker 4: I think you looked better last year because you were
- 33:48Speaker 4: standing next to Angel. And the pretty one. What's the
- 33:52Speaker 4: pretty one's name?
- 33:52Speaker 2: Keanu. Miss you, Keanu. I miss you, Keanu.
- 33:56Speaker 4: You were sitting next to Bad Bitch and the Sad Cloud.
- 33:59Speaker 4: Now that the OGs are back and full cylinder, Karen's back,
- 34:02Speaker 4: Robin's back, you've now gone from the middle of the
- 34:04Speaker 4: pack to the bottom of the pack. And I think
- 34:07Speaker 4: what happened is last season was such an off season
- 34:10Speaker 4: that it made her ill-prepared for the first season. It's
- 34:13Speaker 4: almost like she got kept back in kindergarten. Last season
- 34:17Speaker 4: did not prepare her for Robin and Karen to come back.
- 34:19Speaker 2: And another thing, Tia. Damn.
- 34:23Speaker 5: And another thing, Tia. When you cuss somebody out, stand
- 34:26Speaker 5: up next time. You don't have to use the sandwich method.
- 34:30Speaker 5: This is not feedback in an exit interview or no shit, right?
- 34:33Speaker 5: You don't have to say, even though you've given me
- 34:35Speaker 5: so much support and all the other shit she said, nah,
- 34:38Speaker 5: cuss her motherfucking ass out if that's the type of
- 34:41Speaker 5: timing you on.
- 34:42Speaker 2: This is America.
- 34:43Speaker 4: She gone.
- 34:44Speaker 5: And over here. We cuss motherfuckers the fuck out. I
- 34:47Speaker 5: would encourage you to get a Zeus subscription. I think
- 34:49Speaker 5: Tia just needs a Zeus subscription.
- 34:52Speaker 4: Zeus is not American, Tia. Don't listen to him.
- 34:53Speaker 2: Zeus is not American. I think she should get Zeus.
- 34:56Speaker 5: I think she might try... Well, there's another one she
- 34:58Speaker 5: could try now that's TV.
- 34:59Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
- 35:00Speaker 5: I think that those will... Give her some pointers. This
- 35:04Speaker 5: is the help episode. I'm trying to get everybody some help.
- 35:07Speaker 1: She has to help me.
- 35:10Speaker 2: Like on the Jeffersons, Carlos, the help center.
- 35:13Speaker 4: This is the help center.
- 35:17Speaker 3: Not giving up anything. She's almost making me Miss Angel.
- 35:22Speaker 4: Don't do that, Claudia. Oh, not the graphics. Well played, Miss.
- 35:28Speaker 3: That's Eeyore. He was always sad.
- 35:30Speaker 1: Claudia, you are a mess. I cannot.
- 35:33Speaker 4: Well played, Claudia.
- 35:35Speaker 1: No, you ate that. I can't. I can't. Okay, so
- 35:39Speaker 1: I'll say this. I'll say this. I'll say this. And
- 35:42Speaker 1: we'll move on to Stacey.
- 35:44Speaker 3: Crack myself up. I don't care.
- 35:48Speaker 4: That's his girl coming to the ranch.
- 35:51Speaker 5: I made a vow I'm not going to talk about
- 35:53Speaker 5: Angel because she ain't on the show no more. So, friend,
- 35:55Speaker 5: that's the only reason why I didn't come right behind you.
- 35:58Speaker 2: I made a vow. Y'all see I don't be saying nothing.
- 36:00Speaker 2: I be trying to be fair like.
- 36:01Speaker 1: She ain't on the show.
- 36:02Speaker 4: Did she DM you again or something?
- 36:04Speaker 2: I don't even know if she did the first time.
- 36:07Speaker 5: Don't let that go over your head.
- 36:10Speaker 1: Okay.
- 36:11Speaker 3: All right. Let me stop being mean.
- 36:13Speaker 4: Here's the deal.
- 36:14Speaker 1: Here's the deal. When it comes to Tia, what is
- 36:20Speaker 1: that supposed to be?
- 36:22Speaker 3: I'm out of this world. I don't know.
- 36:26Speaker 4: She's where Angel's relevance is. Go ahead.
- 36:28Speaker 1: I can't. I'll just say this.
- 36:30Speaker 4: Sorry.
- 36:31Speaker 1: The thing with Tia that I would like to offer
- 36:34Speaker 1: up since it's a help episode, listen, I just want,
- 36:40Speaker 1: Tia reminds me of Meghan Markle. Oh. Who wants it,
- 36:46Speaker 1: but doesn't want to appear like she does, right? Like
- 36:50Speaker 1: we know Meghan Markle wants the fame and all those
- 36:52Speaker 1: things and like you do, but I think because of
- 36:56Speaker 1: her position in the world and being married to Prince Harry,
- 37:01Speaker 1: She comes across inauthentic because she's giving us things she
- 37:05Speaker 1: thinks we want to see. And it's like, sis, we
- 37:07Speaker 1: just actually want to see you. We want to fall
- 37:10Speaker 1: in love with you. We do want you to take
- 37:14Speaker 1: us inside your home. Not the Airbnb you filmed that
- 37:18Speaker 1: Netflix show in. Like, that was odd to me. Like,
- 37:22Speaker 1: we're in somebody else's kitchen? Were you paying $ 100 an hour?
- 37:24Speaker 1: Get out of here. So I think the thing with Tia,
- 37:28Speaker 1: Tia signed on the show for her business. And I
- 37:31Speaker 1: think once the girls realize, courtesy of DMs, what her
- 37:35Speaker 1: marriage was, she now wants to say, well, I'm only
- 37:39Speaker 1: going to give you this. And I feel like unless
- 37:42Speaker 1: you have earned it, you don't deserve any grace in
- 37:47Speaker 1: terms of you signing on to do this show. This
- 37:50Speaker 1: show is not just about business. It's about your real life.
- 37:54Speaker 1: And for the third week in a row, we have
- 37:56Speaker 1: heard you admit to having off-camera conversations. And I'm telling you,
- 38:00Speaker 1: in my eyes, that's a pink slip. But moving on to...
- 38:04Speaker 1: Go ahead, Dustin.
- 38:04Speaker 2: No, no, go ahead. But let's move on because I'm
- 38:06Speaker 2: way behind. Can I say real quick?
- 38:08Speaker 3: She would be one of the most interesting storylines if
- 38:11Speaker 3: she would just go after this head on. This is
- 38:16Speaker 3: something that people can relate to. Being in a relationship
- 38:18Speaker 3: 27 years, people get bored. This is something that happens
- 38:22Speaker 3: and is not spoken about. You don't have to keep
- 38:24Speaker 3: up a perfect appearance like there was never any issues.
- 38:26Speaker 3: These type of things happen. I think if she's authentic
- 38:29Speaker 3: and leaned into this, way more people would be able
- 38:31Speaker 3: to relate to her. Really confronting this head on and
- 38:35Speaker 3: it would make for good music and it would make
- 38:37Speaker 3: it a better reality star. I think it would be
- 38:40Speaker 3: even better for her relationship. Just handle it. Avoiding it
- 38:43Speaker 3: is making you seem inauthentic and no one gets that.
- 38:46Speaker 1: Head on.
- 38:47Speaker 2: This is a Halloween telethon, guys.
- 38:49Speaker 4: This really is a Halloween telethon.
- 38:51Speaker 1: Head on is crazy. What did you guys think about
- 38:54Speaker 1: Stacey and Timo's scene? Our girl Stacey is re-engaged.
- 39:00Speaker 3: Congratulations.
- 39:02Speaker 1: Thank you. Eat that wig. Stacy looks so damn good
- 39:12Speaker 1: in this scene. And I will say this. I actually
- 39:16Speaker 1: think her and Timo have chemistry based on, like, they
- 39:20Speaker 1: get each other's languages. You can tell he is smitten
- 39:23Speaker 1: by her. And I actually enjoy this scene. Yes. See? housewives,
- 39:31Speaker 1: it made me want to root for what we know
- 39:34Speaker 1: happens at the upcoming wedding. So I'm rooting for Stacey
- 39:38Speaker 1: and Timo.
- 39:38Speaker 2: Me too.
- 39:39Speaker 5: I love seeing her beautiful self happy. She appears to
- 39:43Speaker 5: really love Timo. I know that keeping her family together
- 39:47Speaker 5: is very important to her. And I love Stacey, so
- 39:51Speaker 5: love everything about this scene.
- 39:52Speaker 2: I'm glad she got her jewelry. I love it.
- 39:55Speaker 5: Just no more dogs in the restaurant now, Stacey. That's
- 39:58Speaker 5: the only thing, you know? But that wasn't her idea,
- 40:01Speaker 5: so we good.
- 40:02Speaker 1: Yeah. Blue?
- 40:06Speaker 4: You guys know I'm team Stacey, so that's nothing to
- 40:09Speaker 4: be surprised about. I will say this, too. You know
- 40:12Speaker 4: when you see that interracial couple and you see that
- 40:14Speaker 4: quirky black girl and the weird white guy, but they
- 40:17Speaker 4: make sense? They just, they're that odd couple that like, wow,
- 40:22Speaker 4: every dented pot does have a lid. Like they are
- 40:25Speaker 4: perfectly made for each other. It's easy to root for them.
- 40:30Speaker 4: They both are like Claudia Tourette's adjacent. I don't think
- 40:32Speaker 4: Stacey would be able to like fake it if it
- 40:35Speaker 4: wasn't real. You know what I mean? So I will
- 40:37Speaker 4: say this. I think it's going to make the girls
- 40:40Speaker 4: gag that there was a season where they all tried
- 40:42Speaker 4: to gang up on her and everything they swore that
- 40:44Speaker 4: they had, why they were calling her a liar. she's
- 40:47Speaker 4: coming out being the truth. There's deep irony in this
- 40:49Speaker 4: that y'all spent all this time calling Stacey a lie,
- 40:52Speaker 4: and her relationship is the most honest one this season
- 40:55Speaker 4: from what I'm seeing, even more so than Eddie and Wendy, right? Also, too,
- 41:00Speaker 4: that new girl, the pasta.
- 41:02Speaker 1: Courtney.
- 41:02Speaker 4: Let's drop it. Courtney. That moment between Courtney and... Stacey,
- 41:09Speaker 4: I don't like it because I'm rooting for Kourtney, but
- 41:11Speaker 4: it's the same way I was rooting for Tia. I'm
- 41:13Speaker 4: starting to wonder if Stacey's a litmus for which girls
- 41:16Speaker 4: we're going to clap on who are going to disappoint us.
- 41:18Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 41:19Speaker 4: Whenever we clap for somebody and they come at Stacey funny,
- 41:22Speaker 4: there's some weird shit that's going to piss us off
- 41:24Speaker 4: coming down the pipeline. So be careful, Lil Miss. I'm
- 41:27Speaker 4: rooting for you and your eight-foot husband, but not too
- 41:30Speaker 4: fucking much on Stacey. Excuse my French.
- 41:32Speaker 2: Kourtney needs to argue with Ashley.
- 41:34Speaker 3: Yeah, pick Ashley.
- 41:34Speaker 2: Don't argue with Stacey.
- 41:35Speaker 5: She should have picked Ashley, not Stacey. Stacey got enough
- 41:38Speaker 5: going on. It's enough people that hate her on this cast.
- 41:41Speaker 5: Kourtney could have a clear pathway to have some conversations
- 41:45Speaker 5: with Ashley Darby that a lot of people have been
- 41:47Speaker 5: waiting for someone, anybody to have with her. And that
- 41:51Speaker 5: lane was right open for Kourtney. I'm surprised it didn't
- 41:54Speaker 5: come to her in a vision.
- 41:56Speaker 2: You know, to... Not because she's a prophet. I'm surprised
- 42:01Speaker 2: he didn't say, go after Ashley. I wish Michael Garvey
- 42:06Speaker 2: would say it to her. Send her a voicemail.
- 42:08Speaker 5: But yeah, she did this wrong role. But what I
- 42:12Speaker 5: will say, I like the way she handled it at
- 42:15Speaker 5: the table. She pushed enough. And then she was like, okay.
- 42:19Speaker 5: With an unreadable.
- 42:21Speaker 1: No, I got to disagree with you. She was cringe.
- 42:23Speaker 4: No, no.
- 42:24Speaker 1: Claudia, let me know what you think. But I got
- 42:27Speaker 1: to disagree with you and Blue. And listen, I love
- 42:30Speaker 1: Stacey as well. I did not think that Kourtney started it.
- 42:35Speaker 1: I love Stacey. I felt that Stacey started it.
- 42:38Speaker 4: How?
- 42:39Speaker 1: Because, because.
- 42:40Speaker 2: So what, though? No, no, but hear me out.
- 42:42Speaker 1: Hear me out.
- 42:43Speaker 2: When.
- 42:44Speaker 1: Hear me out. When... When Stacey was talking about, you know,
- 42:50Speaker 1: she got re-proposed to, they're engaged. Uh-huh. Kourtney said, like, okay, girl, like,
- 42:54Speaker 1: who's gonna be your wedding planner? I felt that Stacey
- 42:58Speaker 1: was too harsh on Kourtney out of nowhere, where she's like...
- 43:02Speaker 1: I mean, somebody that I think is credible. And it
- 43:05Speaker 1: was sort of like, I felt that Kourtney was being cute.
- 43:09Speaker 4: No, why is my moment about you?
- 43:10Speaker 2: Don't be being cute with me. You don't know me
- 43:13Speaker 2: like that, huh? We grown.
- 43:15Speaker 3: I agree with you, Carlos. I felt the same way.
- 43:18Speaker 3: I thought that was like, she wasn't being mean. She's
- 43:20Speaker 3: had this event. None of these people brought their man.
- 43:24Speaker 3: Where your man is at, in the words of Charles Oakley.
- 43:28Speaker 3: Why am I the only dude here?
- 43:32Speaker 1: Right?
- 43:32Speaker 3: So she was, they were her dude. And I just
- 43:34Speaker 3: felt like Stacey's, I like Stacey. Let me be very clear.
- 43:36Speaker 3: I think she's very cute, very beautiful. And an Aries,
- 43:39Speaker 3: very quirky. I get like, we sometimes have a weird
- 43:42Speaker 3: sense of humor. But I felt like she could have
- 43:44Speaker 3: kind of gave her something cute. She's too smart and
- 43:47Speaker 3: charming to make that be the response. I don't think
- 43:50Speaker 3: Kourtney was trying to be a bitch in that moment.
- 43:52Speaker 3: I thought she was like, okay, girl. It's like if
- 43:55Speaker 3: someone's saying they need a host, we would be like, okay,
- 43:57Speaker 3: so who's hosting?
- 43:58Speaker 4: But we wouldn't keep saying it for like five more beats.
- 44:01Speaker 3: Well, I only heard her say it once or twice.
- 44:04Speaker 3: And I just thought that she wasn't being a jerk.
- 44:05Speaker 3: I don't think she's being a jerk. I thought she
- 44:09Speaker 3: was just being like, she's a new girl in the group.
- 44:11Speaker 3: And she's just like, you know, trying to find her
- 44:12Speaker 3: little place. You know, Stacey seems like a girl you
- 44:15Speaker 3: could be cutesy like that with. So I think she
- 44:17Speaker 3: was shocked. I thought the same thing.
- 44:19Speaker 4: I don't know why.
- 44:19Speaker 3: Somebody capable? I was like, that was me.
- 44:21Speaker 5: I don't know why. And here's further to my point, right? Like,
- 44:24Speaker 5: cause I agree. Even if she, I don't think that
- 44:26Speaker 5: Kourtney's intentions were bad.
- 44:28Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
- 44:29Speaker 2: I think she was taking a dig like that, but
- 44:31Speaker 2: it's very basic.
- 44:32Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait, wait. You got to spell it out
- 44:34Speaker 1: for me, brother. What dig did Stacey... I'm sorry. What
- 44:41Speaker 1: dig did Kourtney make to Stacey?
- 44:46Speaker 5: She don't know Stacey well enough to ask her nothing
- 44:48Speaker 5: about her motherfucking plans.
- 44:50Speaker 1: Stacey called her on the phone and.
- 44:52Speaker 2: To get to know her. To get to know her.
- 44:54Speaker 2: To get to know her.
- 44:56Speaker 5: It was an introductory conversation. that probably didn't last longer
- 45:00Speaker 5: than whatever time. And it wasn't honored by Courtney because
- 45:05Speaker 5: she tapped in like, so who's going to be your wife?
- 45:07Speaker 5: She knew exactly what she was doing at that table.
- 45:10Speaker 5: Here's the thing though, right?
- 45:12Speaker 2: Here's the thing.
- 45:13Speaker 5: I think it was a playful jab that could have
- 45:16Speaker 5: been received differently.
- 45:19Speaker 2: It could have been kept up, right? But she don't
- 45:22Speaker 2: know Stacey like that.
- 45:23Speaker 5: And y'all have to remember that Stacey had about four
- 45:26Speaker 5: or five other women at that table.
- 45:28Speaker 2: That can't stand her and.
- 45:29Speaker 5: Are being beyond rule to her.
- 45:33Speaker 2: So she's already got, I.
- 45:34Speaker 1: Think Stacey already.
- 45:35Speaker 5: Has her filter up for the least thing that a
- 45:39Speaker 5: new person that don't know you, anything you do to
- 45:42Speaker 5: me that feels sideways, I'm going to respond and react
- 45:45Speaker 5: to it because we're strangers.
- 45:46Speaker 2: You don't know me like that.
- 45:48Speaker 4: Just like Tia last season. I'm so sorry, but pattern
- 45:51Speaker 4: recognition says... Stacey, last season, every single new girl, oh,
- 45:56Speaker 4: we heard your breath stink. Oh, we heard your relationship
- 45:59Speaker 4: is fake. Oh, look at this. Stacey has been on,
- 46:02Speaker 4: because I know Dustin's a historian and so am I, okay?
- 46:05Speaker 4: You and Claudia are journalists, we're historians, right?
- 46:08Speaker 1: Historically speaking, every.
- 46:10Speaker 4: New girl thinks that Stacey is their sacrificial lamb to
- 46:14Speaker 4: get on with the other girls. So if Stacey ain't
- 46:16Speaker 4: got it no more, I don't fucking blame her. Sorry,
- 46:19Speaker 4: I don't blame her.
- 46:20Speaker 2: Because the new girls want to be cute with Stacey.
- 46:22Speaker 4: They love to be cute. Be cute with Ashley.
- 46:25Speaker 2: Be cute with Go Ahead.
- 46:25Speaker 4: Be cute with somebody else.
- 46:26Speaker 3: Okay, if I'm a wedding planner and you call me
- 46:30Speaker 3: about your wedding and then you announce it that you're
- 46:32Speaker 3: getting married at my... Hold on, let me finish. At
- 46:36Speaker 3: my man's birthday party, I think it is totally within
- 46:39Speaker 3: reason to playfully... I don't think she was putting on
- 46:42Speaker 3: the spot like, who are you really hiring?
- 46:43Speaker 2: She was being playful.
- 46:44Speaker 3: Like, okay, who's gonna be... I do not think that
- 46:47Speaker 3: was her throwing a jab. I do not think that.
- 46:50Speaker 3: And I think that.
- 46:50Speaker 4: I don't think it was a jab either.
- 46:51Speaker 5: Maybe jab was the wrong word. Maybe I'm being playful,
- 46:55Speaker 5: being too playful. I think she was serious.
- 46:58Speaker 2: I was Claudia.
- 46:59Speaker 1: I think she really was like, bitch, I did Cynthia
- 47:03Speaker 1: Denise Bailey's wedding. It looked good. Dustin and Claudia were there.
- 47:07Speaker 1: It looked amazing.
- 47:08Speaker 5: It was good. No, it just hit me. No, we
- 47:12Speaker 5: are not about to glaze over this. We're not about
- 47:14Speaker 5: to glaze over this.
- 47:15Speaker 2: Here's the thing.
- 47:16Speaker 5: Here's what hit me. Here's what hit me. And here's
- 47:18Speaker 5: how I know she was being funny. Because if Stacey
- 47:22Speaker 5: called her and they talked on the phone and talked
- 47:24Speaker 5: about her being a wedding planner or whatever, and she
- 47:28Speaker 5: realized at that table when Stacey announced her engagement, Courtney realized, oh, okay, well, damn.
- 47:35Speaker 5: That means that she didn't mention to me on the
- 47:37Speaker 5: phone that she was engaged when I was telling her
- 47:40Speaker 5: that I'm a wedding planner.
- 47:42Speaker 2: Oh, so you're not going to pick me?
- 47:44Speaker 5: Well, let me bring it up now at the table
- 47:46Speaker 5: then since you want to be funny and not mention
- 47:48Speaker 5: it to me on the phone type shit. Let me
- 47:50Speaker 5: bring it up now so she has to answer in
- 47:52Speaker 5: front of everybody here, but I'm going to do it
- 47:53Speaker 5: nice nasty. Remember, we talked about the church nice nasty shit.
- 47:58Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? It's very church. That's very church.
- 48:01Speaker 1: It's a different kind of nice nasty.
- 48:03Speaker 2: No, she called to get to know.
- 48:04Speaker 3: Her about the wedding.
- 48:05Speaker 2: She didn't call her about the wedding.
- 48:07Speaker 4: No, she called her to get to know her.
- 48:09Speaker 2: She didn't say nothing about the wedding.
- 48:11Speaker 4: No, she didn't call about the wedding. No, she did
- 48:16Speaker 4: not call about the wedding.
- 48:17Speaker 2: She said, I called to get to know you, ho,
- 48:18Speaker 2: and you mentioned your job.
- 48:20Speaker 4: Y'all are too mean.
- 48:21Speaker 3: Y'all are mean.
- 48:22Speaker 4: Be nice. Courtney's cute.
- 48:24Speaker 3: I like her.
- 48:25Speaker 1: All right.
- 48:26Speaker 4: First of all, it's the first time it's been me
- 48:27Speaker 4: and Dustin versus... We've had every other combination, but.
- 48:30Speaker 2: This is fun.
- 48:31Speaker 4: High five, friend.
- 48:32Speaker 3: I'm with the boss.
- 48:34Speaker 1: I'm with the.
- 48:34Speaker 4: Good. I'm happy y'all made up for this.
- 48:37Speaker 1: I'm with the... You made what? The beauty queen journalist.
- 48:40Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 48:41Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 48:42Speaker 4: Okay.
- 48:43Speaker 2: Talk about betrayal. Right. Talk about Judas. Wow. Talk about
- 48:47Speaker 2: black style.
- 48:48Speaker 3: Wow.
- 48:48Speaker 4: Talk about reach.
- 48:50Speaker 1: Well, picking up beauty queen.
- 48:53Speaker 3: Carlos, ignore them and their negativity.
- 48:58Speaker 4: You don't know.
- 48:59Speaker 2: An angel being mercurial.
- 49:05Speaker 1: By the way, Courtney, your best friend. Moving on. Do
- 49:11Speaker 1: we need to put.
- 49:14Speaker 3: A DM out there? No.
- 49:17Speaker 4: No.
- 49:18Speaker 1: Me and Dustin enjoy aesthetically... So, moving on, I want
- 49:24Speaker 1: to get into.
- 49:25Speaker 3: But no one else's man was there, and I thought
- 49:27Speaker 3: that was very telling.
- 49:29Speaker 1: I got to say, I got to say, I got
- 49:31Speaker 1: to say, I know we're a little bit over, but
- 49:33Speaker 1: I got to say this really fast. I'm... And I'll
- 49:38Speaker 1: get dragged for this, and trust me, throw it in
- 49:40Speaker 1: the box of the dragation of Carlos King. I gotta admit,
- 49:45Speaker 1: I do miss the days when the husbands were around.
- 49:48Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a dynamic, for sure.
- 49:50Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just, it brings something different, and I wanted
- 49:56Speaker 1: to see Timo, Ray, Juan Dixon, you know what I'm saying? Like,
- 50:02Speaker 1: I wanted to see the Eddie, which, by the way,
- 50:06Speaker 1: I was surprised that Eddie wasn't there either.
- 50:08Speaker 2: I wasn't.
- 50:09Speaker 4: No, he's the sacrificial lamb this season.
- 50:11Speaker 2: I don't think we're going to see a lot of
- 50:13Speaker 2: Eddie this season.
- 50:14Speaker 1: Yeah, which makes me sad.
- 50:15Speaker 3: Okay.
- 50:16Speaker 4: But Candace, it's Candace though. Can we talk about the,
- 50:18Speaker 4: I think Candace and Chris was when everybody started pulling
- 50:21Speaker 4: their husbands away. Hmm. When I thought about it, because
- 50:25Speaker 4: there was a, when Chris was around, I remember thinking, oh,
- 50:27Speaker 4: they're all cool with the white boy. Like it was
- 50:29Speaker 4: Chris and the other old man, Ashley Darby's, what's his, Mr. Burns,
- 50:33Speaker 4: what's his name? Michael sure so it was Chris and
- 50:37Speaker 4: Michael and whoever else was in the whatever it was
- 50:40Speaker 4: a cute little husband thing happening when that weird thing
- 50:42Speaker 4: happened with Chris and Giselle they were almost like oh
- 50:44Speaker 4: everybody hide your husbands hide your whatevers it got very
- 50:48Speaker 4: cautious after the Chris and Giselle thing it got very
- 50:51Speaker 4: weird after that and there was a long time where
- 50:53Speaker 4: it was just Eddie for a long time after Chris
- 50:55Speaker 4: and Candace so I do think when people realize how
- 50:58Speaker 4: far it can go against the husbands everybody got really
- 51:01Speaker 4: cautious after that I was just thinking about that the
- 51:03Speaker 4: other day.
- 51:04Speaker 3: I was like, damn, where are the fellas? And it's
- 51:07Speaker 3: a man's birthday party. And in the invitation, it said
- 51:09Speaker 3: to bring them. And they all was like... I will say,
- 51:13Speaker 3: Wendy looked good as hell in that white dress.
- 51:15Speaker 2: Yes, she looked good the whole fucking episode. That green confessional.
- 51:19Speaker 1: That purple, that part to meet up with Giselle.
- 51:22Speaker 3: She was giving looks.
- 51:23Speaker 1: Giselle looked amazing.
- 51:25Speaker 4: All the women's glam.
- 51:26Speaker 1: This season has been exceptional.
- 51:29Speaker 5: And Ashley's been leaning into that black girl aesthetic and
- 51:32Speaker 5: it looks good on her.
- 51:33Speaker 2: You notice that in them confessionals?
- 51:34Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 51:35Speaker 2: She's been leaning into the black girl aesthetic.
- 51:36Speaker 3: She had a couple cute outfits too in her confessionals.
- 51:38Speaker 1: So I do want to get into this before I
- 51:40Speaker 1: continue the party because this is my mistake. I forgot
- 51:43Speaker 1: to mention the fact that Wendy and Giselle did sit down.
- 51:46Speaker 1: How did y'all feel? I'll start with you, Blue. How
- 51:49Speaker 1: did y'all feel? Thank you, Chris. Sorry about that. How
- 51:52Speaker 1: did y'all feel when... Wendy told Giselle, you calling me
- 51:57Speaker 1: a scammer is culturally inappropriate because a scammer is what
- 52:02Speaker 1: is used against Nigerians.
- 52:05Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 52:05Speaker 1: Because people believe that's what we do. Which I didn't
- 52:10Speaker 1: think about that. And Giselle received it and apologized for it. Blue,
- 52:17Speaker 1: is that something that you are familiar with in terms of,
- 52:23Speaker 1: The moment you heard Gisele call Wendy a scammer, did
- 52:26Speaker 1: you think about the global impact that it had?
- 52:28Speaker 3: Yeah, immediately.
- 52:29Speaker 4: So you guys know I'm Pan-African, right? So I don't
- 52:31Speaker 4: do diaspora wars. Niggas, wherever they are, that's my family. Yes?
- 52:35Speaker 4: And though, however, comma, in the 1900s, the two groups
- 52:39Speaker 4: of people who got made fun of the most on
- 52:41Speaker 4: the playground, and this was an East Coast thing, so
- 52:43Speaker 4: I don't know if it was only regional. You guys
- 52:44Speaker 4: can let me know from where you're from. But in Boston,
- 52:47Speaker 4: New York, Connecticut, all the places that I was traversing,
- 52:50Speaker 4: the two groups of kids that got made fun of
- 52:51Speaker 4: the most were the African booty scratchers and the Haitians.
- 52:55Speaker 4: And I remember growing up, and a lot of my
- 52:58Speaker 4: friends have talked about this, how much pain we had
- 53:00Speaker 4: around being Haitian or African because we were constantly being
- 53:03Speaker 4: made fun of. We were being called less than, go
- 53:05Speaker 4: back to your country. Xenophobia was very popular to those
- 53:08Speaker 4: two groups growing up, right? And even now, we haven't
- 53:11Speaker 4: really grown out of it because the algorithm has monetized
- 53:14Speaker 4: diaspora wars. And so when I was doing coverage of
- 53:17Speaker 4: Love Island, they were like, oh, Blue's doing voodoo. I
- 53:20Speaker 4: immediately knew it was because I'm half Haitian. I immediately knew.
- 53:23Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 53:24Speaker 4: And so when Wendy heard the scammer thing, the minute
- 53:26Speaker 4: Giselle said scammer, I said, ooh, calling a Nigerian person
- 53:29Speaker 4: a scammer in 2026? That's like using the R word. Like, ooh,
- 53:33Speaker 4: we don't do that, right? And I will give Giselle
- 53:35Speaker 4: credit where I do not think Giselle was thinking of
- 53:38Speaker 4: scammer and the implications. And the second Wendy brought it up,
- 53:42Speaker 4: there was no defense. There was no defense. And so
- 53:45Speaker 4: I want to say, Giselle, and to any of my
- 53:47Speaker 4: other friends who are black but just in different fonts,
- 53:50Speaker 4: if someone who is the same race as you but
- 53:53Speaker 4: a different culture from you, because race versus ethnicity is
- 53:57Speaker 4: whooping y'all asses. Black is not just an American thing.
- 53:58Speaker 4: I'm black. There's no part of me that's not black,
- 54:01Speaker 4: even though my family's from other countries. When you meet
- 54:03Speaker 4: black people from other countries or you meet black people
- 54:06Speaker 4: from America and they tell you, hey, I'm from the South,
- 54:08Speaker 4: don't say this. I'm from Haiti or Cuba, don't say this.
- 54:11Speaker 4: I'm from Nigeria. Be open to learning that just because
- 54:13Speaker 4: we have the same race doesn't mean we have the
- 54:15Speaker 4: same cultural identity, right?
- 54:17Speaker 2: Exactly.
- 54:17Speaker 4: And I think culturally, because of what happened with Wendy
- 54:19Speaker 4: and that other girl, Nneka or Nneka, whatever her name was,
- 54:22Speaker 4: I think Wendy's very sensitive to making sure that Nigerians
- 54:24Speaker 4: don't catch a stray anymore. And I'm proud of her, Giselle,
- 54:28Speaker 4: in that moment. I also think it's a little funny
- 54:30Speaker 4: that Giselle said, I'm sorry, now can you help me?
- 54:33Speaker 4: This is a Halloween telethon. She went straight to, I'm
- 54:36Speaker 4: so sorry for being disparaging. Now I need some help
- 54:38Speaker 4: with Congress. So I think she also had a self-serving
- 54:41Speaker 4: reason to listen to Wendy because she needed to ask
- 54:43Speaker 4: for her aid, yes? Like Dustin said, help her.
- 54:45Speaker 2: The help episode.
- 54:47Speaker 4: I love the whole episode. I love the whole scene
- 54:49Speaker 4: between them. Also, I think Wendy has signaled to Gisele,
- 54:53Speaker 4: hey ho, just because the other green bandit is back.
- 54:55Speaker 4: Y'all not about to haze me like y'all did when
- 54:57Speaker 4: I first got here. Not too much. And I think
- 54:59Speaker 4: Gisele's like, yeah, you're right. Robin doesn't have my back,
- 55:01Speaker 4: so let me keep it cute. I loved it. I
- 55:02Speaker 4: loved it.
- 55:04Speaker 1: Okay, so thank you for that educational moment, Blue. Appreciate you.
- 55:07Speaker 4: The more you know.
- 55:08Speaker 1: As we get back to the party, Gisele confronts Tia on...
- 55:15Speaker 1: calling Wendy a scammer because Tia is the one that
- 55:18Speaker 1: told Wendy what Giselle said. Tia said, it's rich coming
- 55:22Speaker 1: from you, Giselle, because obviously Ashley told her that on
- 55:28Speaker 1: a recent podcast, she did mention it, although Robin Dixon
- 55:32Speaker 1: edited it out. Tia says, as long as you can
- 55:36Speaker 1: get a check, anybody's pain, anybody's family, that is free
- 55:41Speaker 1: game for your success. And that is Kind of friendship,
- 55:45Speaker 1: my dear. I don't want it. Claudia, as the queen
- 55:49Speaker 1: of reeds, was that reverse reed or off the dome?
- 55:52Speaker 3: I think it was off the dome.
- 55:57Speaker 1: Claudia, what does that background represent?
- 55:59Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
- 56:00Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 56:02Speaker 2: No, Claudia, leave it.
- 56:03Speaker 4: It's your ADHD. Put it back.
- 56:05Speaker 3: Is this calming? Listen, it's either that or, you know,
- 56:10Speaker 3: which I want.
- 56:11Speaker 1: Miss Juicy.
- 56:11Speaker 2: Miss Juicy.
- 56:13Speaker 3: The other queen of Atlanta. Was it Off the Dome
- 56:17Speaker 3: or Red? No, I don't know. I don't know if
- 56:20Speaker 3: it was rehearsed.
- 56:20Speaker 2: I think it was a hybrid.
- 56:23Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.
- 56:23Speaker 3: Yeah, because you might be like, okay, I'm going to
- 56:26Speaker 3: have this to say. It's a little weird because we
- 56:31Speaker 3: do that on our show. We have to talk about
- 56:33Speaker 3: whatever's trending, so it's kind of a tough place to
- 56:36Speaker 3: be in. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know.
- 56:39Speaker 1: Oh, trust me, Claudia.
- 56:40Speaker 4: I know.
- 56:41Speaker 3: Yeah, like, you damned if you do. You damned if
- 56:42Speaker 3: you don't. You don't go in and talk about it. Oh,
- 56:45Speaker 3: you're protecting your friends, and you're not keeping it a buck.
- 56:48Speaker 3: Then you say something, you're obsessed, and you're a hater.
- 56:50Speaker 1: Oh!
- 56:53Speaker 3: In the words of DMX, what you bitches want from
- 56:55Speaker 3: a nigga?
- 56:55Speaker 1: I don't know what.
- 56:56Speaker 3: The right answer is. I don't know what the answer is. Tia,
- 57:00Speaker 3: what do you want? If you got some news, we're
- 57:03Speaker 3: going to talk about it. Wendy, that goes for you too. Sorry.
- 57:05Speaker 3: That is the nature of doing commentary and doing a podcast.
- 57:09Speaker 3: And that just kind of comes with the territory. Now,
- 57:11Speaker 3: you can try to soften the blow a little bit
- 57:13Speaker 3: when you love the girls or when you love the
- 57:15Speaker 3: person or that's your friend. You can soften it. You
- 57:17Speaker 3: don't have to be so salacious about it. But it
- 57:20Speaker 3: is part of the game. I don't know.
- 57:21Speaker 2: I don't think so.
- 57:23Speaker 5: Friend i don't i think that there's a responsible way
- 57:26Speaker 5: to handle it when you discuss something that impacts like
- 57:30Speaker 5: you know somebody you know i think yeah so i said.
- 57:32Speaker 3: It's how you handle it i said it's yeah it's
- 57:36Speaker 3: a way you handle that shit that i don't think
- 57:39Speaker 3: that giselle has really been been moving with regard toward
- 57:44Speaker 3: and i think that robin's time away from the show
- 57:46Speaker 3: like she said you know i'm saying in that scene
- 57:48Speaker 3: being away from the.
- 57:48Speaker 5: Show makes you realize how disconnected from real life this
- 57:51Speaker 5: can get. And I don't think that she was comfortable
- 57:53Speaker 5: with that. And also that shows great responsibility as a host.
- 57:58Speaker 5: That's a sustainable practice, right? When you incorporate responsible handling
- 58:03Speaker 5: of sensitive topics, sensitive information, that can impact people's lives.
- 58:07Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
- 58:08Speaker 5: And I think that that speaks highly to Robin occupying
- 58:14Speaker 5: that seat for however many years that he had that
- 58:16Speaker 5: podcast now. it shows some growth or what Natasha Rothwell
- 58:20Speaker 5: say growth.
- 58:21Speaker 2: It shows growth. You know what I'm saying?
- 58:23Speaker 5: And I, I appreciate as, as a host, as a
- 58:26Speaker 5: media personality, like you guys, I appreciated that actually her
- 58:30Speaker 5: taking that beat, being like, let's handle this with just
- 58:32Speaker 5: a little more care. Cause I talked to her and
- 58:35Speaker 5: she told me that, Hey, are you supposed to be
- 58:38Speaker 5: my friend? This is really fucking me up even more
- 58:41Speaker 5: that you're handling it this way as if it's just a,
- 58:44Speaker 5: headline that is like you said claudia a little more
- 58:47Speaker 5: salacious or whatever um handle it with some care i
- 58:50Speaker 5: just respected it personally.
- 58:52Speaker 3: I i think they're expecting maturity and friendship out of
- 58:55Speaker 3: someone that giselle listen i don't know her like that
- 58:58Speaker 3: but she shows she don't give a fuck yeah i
- 59:01Speaker 3: do whatever for the podcast like she's not like even
- 59:03Speaker 3: her old her girl robin who is her girl we
- 59:06Speaker 3: find out on this episode she's throwing her in the
- 59:08Speaker 3: bus so it's like expect real good friend behavior out
- 59:13Speaker 3: of someone. She's there for the plot and for the show. Now, Robin,
- 59:17Speaker 3: and it shows the conscience. I love how this makes
- 59:19Speaker 3: Robin look.
- 59:20Speaker 2: Me too.
- 59:20Speaker 3: I love how it makes Robin look. It shows some
- 59:22Speaker 3: humanity there. Can we be honest? Expecting Giselle to feel
- 59:26Speaker 3: like to handle it that way, it ain't going to happen. Giselle...
- 59:30Speaker 3: is on there with no real storyline of her own
- 59:32Speaker 3: and is managing to stay there. Carlos says she's the star,
- 59:35Speaker 3: the NeNe Leakes of the series. So her thing is,
- 59:39Speaker 3: I'm steering the pot and I don't give a damn
- 59:41Speaker 3: about y'all feelings. I don't care.
- 59:43Speaker 4: Well, speaking of Carlos, I think this scene is his fault.
- 59:45Speaker 4: And this is my hypothesis. The reason why I think, no,
- 59:49Speaker 4: I think the scene is your fault. I think Tia
- 59:50Speaker 4: watches the show. And Tia saw Carlos say in every
- 59:54Speaker 4: single podcast, every single stream that he could say, Giselle
- 59:58Speaker 4: is here for her coin. She is clocked in. She
- 1:00:01Speaker 4: is the blueprint. Ching, ching, ching here. I think she
- 1:00:04Speaker 4: heard you saying that.
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: Come on, you're supposed to be Wendy, not Carlos.
- 1:00:07Speaker 4: Sorry, I'm just saying. I think Tia done heard Carlos D.
- 1:00:12Speaker 4: King constantly say that Gisele was clocked in for her
- 1:00:16Speaker 4: coin and she is doing her job. And in her mind,
- 1:00:19Speaker 4: that turned into, oh, what won't you do for a check? Also,
- 1:00:22Speaker 4: Gisele don't even agree with Gisele. Because if we go
- 1:00:25Speaker 4: back to the previous episodes, the reason why this kicked
- 1:00:28Speaker 4: off is when she said to Tia, oh, don't worry,
- 1:00:30Speaker 4: we won't talk about it on the pod. And when
- 1:00:32Speaker 4: he said... Oh, isn't that funny, ho? You talked about
- 1:00:35Speaker 4: me on your pod. So Giselle don't even agree with Giselle.
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: Which one is it?
- 1:00:40Speaker 4: You right. And respectfully, as someone who does social commentary,
- 1:00:46Speaker 4: every single one of you has been attached to a
- 1:00:48Speaker 4: story that I've had to cover in the last year
- 1:00:50Speaker 4: that I've been on this show. And on Blue Centric Live.
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: I always say, yeah, that's proud of this girl.
- 1:00:55Speaker 4: We're going to hold a beat. I thought Claudia was
- 1:00:58Speaker 4: somebody who was getting dragged. I intentionally waited a month
- 1:01:00Speaker 4: to drag her myself. Who?
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: Who was it?
- 1:01:03Speaker 4: I saw you in a picture with the lady with
- 1:01:05Speaker 4: the fake degree. And so I waited a month to
- 1:01:08Speaker 4: mention her because I wasn't sure how close y'all were.
- 1:01:10Speaker 3: I got so much smoke for that. We didn't all
- 1:01:12Speaker 3: go together. Me and my friends went and we started- But.
- 1:01:14Speaker 4: Friend, because I care about you, I waited. I wanted
- 1:01:16Speaker 4: to make sure you didn't mess with her before I
- 1:01:18Speaker 4: dragged her.
- 1:01:19Speaker 3: It was like all them hoes threw us all in
- 1:01:21Speaker 3: the same basket, but whatever. It's fine. It's fine.
- 1:01:23Speaker 4: I saw you with that lady and said, mm, I'm
- 1:01:25Speaker 4: not sure how close Claudia is to this. Came back
- 1:01:27Speaker 4: the following week, Dustin dragged her. I said, oh, green light,
- 1:01:30Speaker 4: let's go. See, there's a certain kind of care you have.
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: There's a certain kind of care that you have. You
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: know what I'm saying?
- 1:01:37Speaker 2: Exactly, boo.
- 1:01:38Speaker 4: No, the minute Dustin said her name, I said, oh,
- 1:01:40Speaker 4: next episode of Blue Centric Live, we're going in.
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: They said Claudia. They're calling it the Claudia files.
- 1:01:46Speaker 2: Exactly.
- 1:01:49Speaker 4: I always got to check how close somebody is to
- 1:01:51Speaker 4: Claudia before I shoot. So I'm just saying, Claudia, you're
- 1:01:53Speaker 4: exhibit A of how there's a way to do it.
- 1:01:57Speaker 3: Baby, listen, yeah, I show a little care, but we
- 1:02:00Speaker 3: talking about Giselle.
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: That's true.
- 1:02:01Speaker 3: Giselle don't give a damn about none of that. She
- 1:02:05Speaker 3: is surviving with, I think she's a reality star 24
- 1:02:10Speaker 3: hours a day. I don't think, that's what I think
- 1:02:13Speaker 3: about her. I think she's 24 hours a day. I
- 1:02:15Speaker 3: was trying to put a picture up of her, but
- 1:02:16Speaker 3: it wouldn't let me be great.
- 1:02:18Speaker 4: That was God.
- 1:02:19Speaker 3: Go ahead. This is fun doing this. I want to
- 1:02:21Speaker 3: do this every show.
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: No, this is actually fun. So what did y'all think
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: about Robin and Ashley getting into it as we discuss
- 1:02:28Speaker 1: how the episode ended? Because Ashley tells Robin that she
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: thought it was strange behavior that Robin even brought up
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: the edited moment out because, you know, that's why she
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: told Tia. And Robin asks Ashley, what are you talking about?
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: Because Giselle is the one that brought it to the podcast,
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: Talking Shit. Karen's impressed because it's sort of like, once again,
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: Robin is no host bar when it comes to her opinion. Dustin,
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: are you surprised that Robin is getting it with Ashley
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: and Giselle is over there catching a stray?
- 1:03:08Speaker 5: I'll make this succinct since it's 9.51. No, I'm not surprised.
- 1:03:12Speaker 5: Robin spent time away from the show. She knew she
- 1:03:14Speaker 5: needed a different formula, a different recipe, a different sauce.
- 1:03:18Speaker 5: to stand out and to be impactful in her new
- 1:03:21Speaker 5: role as a friend of the show and her being
- 1:03:23Speaker 5: more vocal with her opinions without feeling like she's betraying
- 1:03:26Speaker 5: a friendship or a relationship by doing so is refreshing
- 1:03:30Speaker 5: for me and a lot of the other viewers.
- 1:03:34Speaker 2: Claudia.
- 1:03:37Speaker 4: Oh my heavens.
- 1:03:39Speaker 2: Wow. Wow.
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: This is a telethon.
- 1:03:40Speaker 3: Wow. She looks good, though. She looks really pretty.
- 1:03:49Speaker 4: She does.
- 1:03:51Speaker 3: What was the question?
- 1:03:52Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: In terms of Ashley and Robbie getting into it, are
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: you just surprised about, like you were saying earlier, the
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: OGs are just, like, coming for everyone's coins because they
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: are clocked in?
- 1:04:07Speaker 3: I said it before. When I started watching, I'm like, damn,
- 1:04:10Speaker 3: these girls work. They work. And they work. You can't
- 1:04:15Speaker 3: be sensitive on this show. You get your little fans
- 1:04:18Speaker 3: hurt on this show. No one is safe, even your bestie.
- 1:04:21Speaker 3: No one is safe on this show. I liked it.
- 1:04:24Speaker 3: I think, you know, Ashley is entertaining to me sometimes,
- 1:04:27Speaker 3: but Robin making her look like the least likable one
- 1:04:32Speaker 3: with the little antics. And she's kind of giving mean
- 1:04:35Speaker 3: girl over there with Giselle. So I'm kind of curious
- 1:04:37Speaker 3: how this is going to go. But I'm here. I'm
- 1:04:42Speaker 3: team Robin. I'm team Robin now. I really am. I
- 1:04:46Speaker 3: like it. I like it.
- 1:04:47Speaker 4: Same.
- 1:04:48Speaker 3: I like taking it to Ashley. She's like, basically, I
- 1:04:52Speaker 3: ain't never scared. I'm not scared of anyone of y'all.
- 1:04:54Speaker 3: She's like, everyone's getting the smoke. But it doesn't feel
- 1:04:58Speaker 3: like she's trying to have a scene. It feels like
- 1:04:59Speaker 3: she's just like, I had a break from you, Heffes.
- 1:05:02Speaker 3: I'm not stressed out having to talk about my husband
- 1:05:05Speaker 3: and the shenanigans and hotel rooms and all that and
- 1:05:07Speaker 3: front desk and credit cards. She's like, I'm here now,
- 1:05:10Speaker 3: and this is just me. I don't have that pressure,
- 1:05:12Speaker 3: so now I can focus on y'all, Heffes. And call
- 1:05:15Speaker 3: out the bullshit. She called out the bullshit.
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: Blue, your final thoughts?
- 1:05:20Speaker 4: My final thought is that Ashley lost her way without
- 1:05:24Speaker 4: Michael and Robin found her way without Juan. And I
- 1:05:29Speaker 4: never thought I would say this, but Robin is my
- 1:05:31Speaker 4: favorite thus far actively. Wendy and Stacey are grandfathered in.
- 1:05:35Speaker 4: But I literally look forward to scenes with Robin Dixon.
- 1:05:38Speaker 4: May I be struck again? I can't believe I'm saying it.
- 1:05:41Speaker 4: I'm stunned, right? And also, Robin, I hope that whatever
- 1:05:45Speaker 4: this formula is that has made you stay, I hope
- 1:05:48Speaker 4: they don't play with it too much because it's so
- 1:05:50Speaker 4: organically perfect. I'm just scared that they might tweak it
- 1:05:54Speaker 4: too much. Leave it how it is for now and
- 1:05:55Speaker 4: see how it goes. Also, I remember, Claudia, you had
- 1:06:01Speaker 4: mentioned that you missed a couple of seasons of Potomac
- 1:06:03Speaker 4: and you.
- 1:06:03Speaker 3: Were new to the show.
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: I'm late.
- 1:06:05Speaker 4: The fact that Robin is making you see what we
- 1:06:07Speaker 4: always knew about Ashley, she's already worth her check for me.
- 1:06:10Speaker 4: Because last season, we tried to explain to you why
- 1:06:11Speaker 4: Ashley Darby was toast, was dry, like Melba toast. She
- 1:06:15Speaker 4: was dry. She had the spirit of dryness. Robyn is
- 1:06:17Speaker 4: illustrating to you why a lot of us have been
- 1:06:20Speaker 4: giving Ashley Darby the side eye for quite a while.
- 1:06:22Speaker 4: I think Ashley might be the next person to take
- 1:06:25Speaker 4: a hiatus or sabbatical and come back better. I would
- 1:06:28Speaker 4: love for Robyn to replace Ashley, personally.
- 1:06:31Speaker 3: Jen.
- 1:06:31Speaker 2: Jen's awesome.
- 1:06:32Speaker 4: This is us on Watch What Happens Live. We went
- 1:06:33Speaker 4: to go have drinks afterwards, and I.
- 1:06:35Speaker 3: Was a fan since then.
- 1:06:36Speaker 4: You met the real her, and now we're finally meeting
- 1:06:38Speaker 4: the real her. So you met the real her.
- 1:06:40Speaker 3: See, I only know her from this. I thought she
- 1:06:41Speaker 3: was dope.
- 1:06:42Speaker 4: Oh, y'all look good. I was back.
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: Robin looks amazing.
- 1:06:45Speaker 4: Wow, y'all look really good there.
- 1:06:47Speaker 2: Damn.
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: Damn, Robin.
- 1:06:48Speaker 4: Claudia, y'all look good. No, I was talking about you.
- 1:06:52Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:06:52Speaker 4: All right.
- 1:06:53Speaker 1: So Raindrops, let us know in the comments your thoughts
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: on the Real Housewives of Potomac. Love you guys. Happy Halloween.
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: Thanks for a great episode.
- 1:07:01Speaker 2: Love y'all.
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: It's next Monday.
- 1:07:03Speaker 4: Bye.
- 1:07:04Speaker 3: Have fun.
- 1:07:04Speaker 4: Bye, family.