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Chuck & Buck 10-24 Hour 4: Rick Neuheisel, the future of M's pitching and Booze News. · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: It's time to talk all things college football.
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  Speaker 2: It's just like the menu at Taco Time.
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  Speaker 3: You just can't get enough.
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  Speaker 2: You just can't get enough.
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  Speaker 4: This is our weekly visit with Rick Neuheisel, brought to
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  Speaker 4: you buy Taco Time.
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  Speaker 2: Not those new Heidels. Used to be a moniker of mine.
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  Speaker 2: I mean just sell you know.
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  Speaker 4: Now on your home for college football Saturdays, here's Nacho's
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  Speaker 4: new Heidel on Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ
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  Speaker 2: This is college football and I want you to get
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  Speaker 2: it all over yourself.
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  Speaker 5: Rick new Isel every week, usually on Tuesdays. So let
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  Speaker 5: me first by saying thank you for accommodating our baseball
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  Speaker 5: coverage and then still joining us this week here on
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  Speaker 5: a Friday, wouldn't been the same not chatting with you
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  Speaker 5: this week.
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  Speaker 2: Always a pleasure to talk college football with you. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry about the Mariners, but what a great
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  Speaker 2: year anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a great year.
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  Speaker 5: And after a little bit of time, most people are
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  Speaker 5: going togs accept that.
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  Speaker 1: Right right now, they're having a hard time with it.
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  Speaker 2: Coach understood. You get that close to the to the fruit,
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  Speaker 2: it's difficult to come away empty handed. But that just
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  Speaker 2: makes us hungrier. Next year.
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  Speaker 5: I got to ask, I want to start our conversation
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  Speaker 5: by asking you about this NBA story yesterday and what
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  Speaker 5: kind of reaction you think the powers that be in
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  Speaker 5: college football had to it. I think the NFL Roger Goodella,
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  Speaker 5: should have sent a warning to him, and I would
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  Speaker 5: think that college football as well. How difficult it is
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  Speaker 5: for college coaches everybody involved to have to deal with
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  Speaker 5: the specter that is the popularity, overwhelming popularity of gambling.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's fascinating. As a matter of fact, on Sports Center,
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  Speaker 2: I think it was Greeny right that were sitting there
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  Speaker 2: talking about the story, and they had ESPN bet on
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  Speaker 2: the bottom third on that little signboard right that does
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  Speaker 2: all the advertising, and they had to end up taking
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  Speaker 2: it off because it was embarrassing. But we are in
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  Speaker 2: a world where gambling is prevalent and everybody's making a
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  Speaker 2: ton of money off it. As a matter of fact,
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  Speaker 2: on November first, every college athlete and college coach can
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  Speaker 2: bet on pro sports because they can't keep up with it.
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  Speaker 2: There's no way to monitor what you're doing, so they're
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  Speaker 2: going to say go ahead and bet. You remember last year,
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  Speaker 2: a couple of kids at both Iowa State and Iowa
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  Speaker 2: were deprived of their eligibility for you know, being on
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  Speaker 2: those DraftKings things, or using their parents' DraftKings accounts to
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  Speaker 2: bet on games. It's prevalent. It's just out there, and
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  Speaker 2: these prop bets are really scary because now individuals can
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  Speaker 2: literally just say I'm not going to play after I
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  Speaker 2: start a game and basically make sure that anybody who
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  Speaker 2: bet on the under is correct. So I get, I
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  Speaker 2: get why we're in this world. What I can understand
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  Speaker 2: is these guys making millions and millions of dollars, risking
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  Speaker 2: all that for money that can't be anywhere close to that,
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  Speaker 2: right what they're already yearning. It can't be, and yet
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  Speaker 2: they find themselves. To me, there's something suspicious about this,
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  Speaker 2: and it feels like they're being extorted, like somebody's got
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  Speaker 2: something on them and they're being forced to do things
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  Speaker 2: that these these you know, cartels or mafia or whatever, right,
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  Speaker 2: the Cosa Nostra, well, whatever it is, it's forcing. It
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  Speaker 2: seems like they're being coerced to go along because there's
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  Speaker 2: some some information that they just don't want out there.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I've floated this out earlier in the show. Is
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  Speaker 5: there any problem with just you can only bet the over,
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  Speaker 5: you know. Therefore, if you lose, you know, then you lose,
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  Speaker 5: you don't get the over. But it would de incentivize
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  Speaker 5: people from players from being tempted to take money to
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  Speaker 5: drop games or drop passes, or whatever the case may be.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if I've had enough time to think
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  Speaker 5: about that, but I would think that NFL College Football
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  Speaker 5: want to align with the people that run these daily
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  Speaker 5: prop services. They know they're not going to get rid
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  Speaker 5: of them, but can we work together to figure out
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  Speaker 5: how we can streamline this process so that we aren't
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  Speaker 5: made to look suspicious game after game for years to come.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't so long ago. Remember, Hey, we had
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  Speaker 2: this scandal in college basketball where all the shoe companies
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  Speaker 2: guys were kind of they arrested four different assistant coaches
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  Speaker 2: around the country on the same day. These stories yesterday
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  Speaker 2: in the NBA were not parallel. I mean, the one
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  Speaker 2: was about you know, performing at or pulling himself out
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  Speaker 2: of a game to make sure that people who voted
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  Speaker 2: on his props would have benefited. The other was a
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  Speaker 2: poker game. I mean, the fact that they announced them
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  Speaker 2: both on the same day seems to me like a
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  Speaker 2: kind of a media scheme rather than and then necessarily
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  Speaker 2: a expose onto a real problem. From this standpoint, so listen,
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  Speaker 2: what did you think was going to happen when you
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  Speaker 2: when you started putting all this stuff out there and
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  Speaker 2: the ability to press send on your phone to make
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  Speaker 2: a bet. What do you think was going to happen?
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  Speaker 2: So it is a reminder that we've got to monitor it,
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  Speaker 2: monitor it closely. But the technology out there to you know,
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  Speaker 2: uncover irregularities is pretty amazing and I'm glad for it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we have bets out there where you can bet
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  Speaker 5: on a backup to guard to have fewer assists than
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  Speaker 5: a number.
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  Speaker 2: Incredible, it's incredible.
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  Speaker 1: It's incredible how we've thin it out that much.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's amazing what's available. And uh uh,
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  Speaker 2: be careful of what you wish for in life.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I want to ask you about another big picture topic.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think it was a coincidence that Nebraska played
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  Speaker 5: its worst game of the year last week with their
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  Speaker 5: coach being rumored to be going to Penn State and
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  Speaker 5: not denying those rumors. I'm not sure it was a
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  Speaker 5: coincidence that Washington played so poorly against Michigan Because even
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  Speaker 5: if Jedfish is not involved in other head coaching possibilities,
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  Speaker 5: the fact that the rumor was out there, I do
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  Speaker 5: wonder what kind of effect that has on eighteen to
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  Speaker 5: twenty two year olds as they're getting ready for their
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  Speaker 5: preparation to remain focused on what's the big picture here.
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  Speaker 2: Well, maybe you're aware of what Matt Ruhle did or
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  Speaker 2: didn't do in terms of talking with this team about it,
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  Speaker 2: or Jed did or didn't do it talking to his
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  Speaker 2: team about what's out there, as you know, considered the noise.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not aware. But those things are distractions. And for
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  Speaker 2: the coach who said no distractions, the great Bill Belichick,
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  Speaker 2: he's been fraught with them.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: There have been more distractions at North Carolina than you
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  Speaker 2: could ever shake a stick at. And so as the
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  Speaker 2: coach listen, we understand that that's a good thing. When
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  Speaker 2: they're being sought by other programs, that means they're doing
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  Speaker 2: a good job, that they're considered that kind of elite coach.
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  Speaker 2: That's all good. But those conversations, and they need to
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  Speaker 2: be honest. Conversations with the team are essential so that
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  Speaker 2: you can get back to the focus of what's really important.
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  Speaker 2: Nebraska's got a tough game this week. They got Northwestern, who,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, very quietly has won their last three,
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  Speaker 2: including a win over Penn State at Penn State and
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  Speaker 2: a shutout of Purdue last week. So to me, this
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  Speaker 2: is an interesting game in Lincoln, and if Matt Ruhle
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  Speaker 2: has any interest in being the coach at Penn State,
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  Speaker 2: he needs to win because Penn State fans aren't going
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  Speaker 2: to settle for a guy who can't beat Minnesota and Northwestern.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great way of looking at it.
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  Speaker 5: Rick new Eisl is with us our college football insider
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  Speaker 5: joining us here of course from CBS Sports as he
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  Speaker 5: gets ready for another big college football weekend. And you
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  Speaker 5: know Jedfish, we all know he's a terrific offensive mind.
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  Speaker 5: How do you explain why the offense here for the
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  Speaker 5: Huskies is getting off to just horrendously slow starts. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: more often than not picked it up in the second half,
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  Speaker 5: but they just can't get off to a good start offensively.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if the different time zones
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  Speaker 2: have anything to do with that. I know, in talking
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  Speaker 2: to my son who's going to be playing at Indiana tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: That you know the complications of leaving two days before
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  Speaker 2: is an irregularity, and so forth. At the end of
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  Speaker 2: the day, this offense goes as Demon Williams goes, and
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  Speaker 2: Demon Williams in the two games that they've lost is
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  Speaker 2: negative and rushing. I think one game he was negative
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  Speaker 2: eighteen maybe that was this last weekend against Michigan, and
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  Speaker 2: minus twenty nine against Ohio State. I think Jed needs
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  Speaker 2: to spend more time figuring out absolutely calculated runs rather
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  Speaker 2: than just rely eyeing on him to make plays with
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  Speaker 2: his legs, which obviously is a bonus. But I think
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  Speaker 2: to find more ways for him to be featured in
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  Speaker 2: the running game will unlock a little bit more of
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  Speaker 2: that offense and get him off to a faster start,
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  Speaker 2: maybe eliminate some of those turnovers which happen predominantly in
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  Speaker 2: third and long situations.
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  Speaker 5: Have they started this Jerry new Eiel statue yet there
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  Speaker 5: near poly pavilion or oh.
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  Speaker 2: Goodness, huh, huh, huh. We don't need any more of
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  Speaker 2: that talk. I wrote my son. I wrote my son
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  Speaker 2: a poem the other day. I said, listen, the true
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  Speaker 2: competitor never listens to the fuss because if you do,
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  Speaker 2: it'll be like being run over by a bus, and
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  Speaker 2: while you're laying there splattered, you'll remember what mattered. At
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  Speaker 2: the end of the day. It's all about us. This
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  Speaker 2: is not about you. This is not about anybody in particular.
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  Speaker 2: It's about the team finding a way to get ready
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  Speaker 2: for the next one. Stop listening to the chatter because
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  Speaker 2: it just doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 5: I liked that it was Susie and more than it
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  Speaker 5: was Maya Angelo like it was.
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  Speaker 2: Very very doctor suit. That's the extent of my literary Uh,
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  Speaker 2: that's the extent of my literary prowess.
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  Speaker 5: Right there, New isil with us, all right, So before
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  Speaker 5: we get too far away from you, dub Illinois. I
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  Speaker 5: just talked about this about an hour ago. You're going
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  Speaker 5: to get a good effort from Illinois. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 5: what kind of performance we're going to get out of Washington.
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  Speaker 5: So how do you how do you match these two up?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 6: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: Brett Baelima is a unique character in the world of
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  Speaker 2: college coaching. He's the first that I think I know
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  Speaker 2: of that put his offensive line on the cover of
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  Speaker 2: the Media Guide several years ago while coaching at Arkansas.
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  Speaker 2: He's born in the world noseguard. He's all about French warfare,
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  Speaker 2: and yet this team is not the most physical. This
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  Speaker 2: is this is not his usual team. It's really about
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  Speaker 2: his quarterback, Luke Altmeyer, and their ability to kind of
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  Speaker 2: come from behind. Altmeyer's got six come from behind victories
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  Speaker 2: as the quarterback at Illinois, which is the most in
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  Speaker 2: the Big Ten. I think Washington will be fine in
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  Speaker 2: this game, again, assuming that Demon Williams gets back to
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  Speaker 2: being able to run the ball for positive yardage. That
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  Speaker 2: puts the defense on the heels, and that's not been
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  Speaker 2: Illinois strength and they really don't have a running game
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  Speaker 2: to challenge that and control the ball like maybe Ohio
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  Speaker 2: State did when the last time Washington lost a home game.
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  Speaker 2: So to me, I like the dogs in this game,
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  Speaker 2: but they've got to get back to playing air free
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  Speaker 2: and Demon Williams football.
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  Speaker 5: Diego Pavia's heisman pose premature or prophetic.
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  Speaker 2: I think this kid's just I think this kid's just
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  Speaker 2: the coolest. I met him at the SEC media days,
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  Speaker 2: and he is who he says he is. It is
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  Speaker 2: not act. He is charming as the day is long.
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: You would love him, and I'm here for it. I
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  Speaker 2: just think This is the coolest story. Obviously, I am
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: a little bit biased because Clark Lee was on my
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  Speaker 2: staff at UCLA and I'm really proud of what's happening there.
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  Speaker 2: But this Diego guy has given Vanderbilt and the entire
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  Speaker 2: university an edge, and that edge is fun to watch,
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  Speaker 2: and it's not an accident. When was the last time, Chuck,
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  Speaker 2: you heard Vanderbilt scoring forty one points a game? Never,
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  Speaker 2: that's Vanderbilt, That's never right. They were favored last week
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  Speaker 2: against LSU for the first time since nineteen forty seven.
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  Speaker 2: So this is rare air stuff and I'm here for it.
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  Speaker 2: And while Missouri's having a great year, and Eli Drinkwitz
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  Speaker 2: is also you know, a guy that probably needs the
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  Speaker 2: brass up re up him because he's going to be
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  Speaker 2: in the all these coaching searches, whether it be at
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: Florida or Penn State. I think Vanderbilt gets the win.
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  Speaker 5: Ole Miss at Oklahoma. Obviously Old Miss can't afford to
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  Speaker 5: slide here. And yet Lane Kiffen was involved in some
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  Speaker 5: of those coaching rumors this week, So how does he
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  Speaker 5: convince his players he's not going anywhere and that they
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  Speaker 5: need to be focused on Oklahoma?
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  Speaker 2: Well, the good news at Ole Miss is this is regular. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's always in the coaching turch. You recall the Auburn
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  Speaker 2: game not so very long ago, although they ended up
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  Speaker 2: losing that game to Mississippi State. So this is, you know,
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: the usual suspects. Now the Jimmy Sexton client list is
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  Speaker 2: all out there, so I don't think this impacts. But
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  Speaker 2: I do think Oklahoma wins the game because Oklahoma's front
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  Speaker 2: seven can stop the run. As good as Trinidad Sambliss
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  Speaker 2: has played, he can't gloss over the fact that that
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  Speaker 2: defense gave up a bunch of points last week to Georgia.
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  Speaker 2: And I think John Mattier having another week to heal
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  Speaker 2: and including his legs in the offense is enough for
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  Speaker 2: you to get the win.
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  Speaker 5: In Norman LSU and Texas A and M. As Marcel
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  Speaker 5: Reid getting overlooked in this Heisman talking, is that good
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  Speaker 5: for him? And then secondarily are they a national championship contender?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, everybody you've put in front of them this
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  Speaker 5: year they've mowed down.
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  Speaker 2: I think this is a giant stage for A and M.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously the A and M. The A and M victory
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  Speaker 2: at Notre Dame was that, but it was so early
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  Speaker 2: in the season, and the fact that Miami that Notre
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: Dame had lost the first week, we weren't sure how
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  Speaker 2: good Notre Dame was. They're showing us they're pretty good.
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: I think this is a great coming out party for
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: Marcel Reid. This defense has been unbelievable and we got
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: a kind of patched up offensive line. No running game
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  Speaker 2: for LSU. They're going to play with a freshman left tackle.
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  Speaker 2: I like A and M in this game. And if
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: Marcel Reid plays like he's been playing, I think we're
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  Speaker 2: going to add him to the list of candidates, which
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  Speaker 2: now include Diego, Fernando, Trinidad, and Marcel.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: That sounds like like a boy band. That isn't Caribbee.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: Isn't a boy band? I don't know exactly right.
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: Isn't that Menudo? I believe those are the four guys
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: that were in Menudo? If I'm not mistaken. All right,
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: what's your what's our Taco Time pick of the week here?
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: So this one came to be by by way of
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: Dick Fain. Yesterday he reminded me that Toledo is a
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: favorite in Pullman. This weekend, the Rockets are a good team,
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: and but they're not that rocket strength this year, they
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: have been a little bit porous by their own standards. Uh.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: Jason Kandell, the quarter the coach there, I think, would
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: say this is not one of his best teams. And
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: they traveled to the police and the Cougar's returned from
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: the road. Uh where he team that went on the
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: road and took Ole Miss to twenty one loss and
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: lost to Virginia, a top twenty team twenty to twenty.
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  Speaker 2: I think Washington State as a dog here is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: I'm taking the Cougar.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's great pick man.
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: I'm barely impressed with what Rodgers has done here turning
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: this thing around, because first couple of weeks I'm like, ooh, that's.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Been that's been inspired football. I mean, holy smolks, And
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  Speaker 2: Toledo is not the great Toledo teams that we've seen
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: in the MAC. This is doable. I love this ex
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: house kid to continue a trend to playing great on weekends.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: So give me the coke.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: I'm just gonna warn you right now, if the Bruins
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: beat the Hoosiers this weekend, your son won't even accept
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  Speaker 5: your mail.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: More poems, kick in the offing, more more Susian, more
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Susian wisdom ahead of his way. You know I gave
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: him a little Yoda too, do or not do? There
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  Speaker 2: is no try.
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  Speaker 5: Put forward your best son, And if.
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  Speaker 2: You look in the mirror, I'm looking a little more
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Yoda ask every day.
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  Speaker 5: Well, all we gotta do if we want to remember
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: Rick new Heisel in his prime is look at Jerry
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: new Heisel, because it's the exact same person.
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  Speaker 1: All right, thank you, coach.
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  Speaker 2: We'll hope for better for him.
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  Speaker 1: We'll hope for.
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  Speaker 5: Rick new Isle joining us right here on Chuck and
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: Buck in the Morning, of course's segment every week, usually
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: on Tuesdays at nine, brought to you by Taco Time.
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: So all right, a lot of good college football this weekend.
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: And I'm gonna go ahead and wrap up my agenda
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: here today by talking about the Mariners starting pitchers on
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: the other side and what's going to happen with them
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: in the off season. Sports Radio ninety three point three
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: kJ RFM. No, I don't mean to lecture from earlier
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: with the Major League Baseball and like you can have
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: your wish list for the off season, but I just
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: think that too many marin or fans out there. They
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: put together these like things that not even the Mets do. Yeah,
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: you know, I want all three of the top free agents.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: You know that we're probably not even gonna get one
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: of the top free agents. And if that's the standard
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: that you're setting for the front office, do this or
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: I'm going to be angry and.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Call you cheap all year long. Then they there's no win.
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: Nobody everyone up for a failure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree.
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: That's like with one soda. If the Mirrors don't get
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: one soda, I'm angry. If the Marriors don't get Trevor
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: Story or Chris Bryant. Well those didn't work out that great,
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: but people were going to be pissed if you didn't
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: get them. It's like, come on, you just got to say,
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: they got to make moves, they got to improve the team,
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: They've got to build this, keep the solid foundation going.
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: I mean, you can set your sights on some free
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: agency out there, maybe like a Cody Bellinger or a
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: Bobashett or a Trevor Story's a free agent again by
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: the way, or Max Muncy. I mean those are potentially doable.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: Even though I don't think we're going there this offseason.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: I think we're re signing Josh Naylor. I think we're
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: re signing or A Polanco. If the price is right.
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: We might bring Geno back next year. And then when
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: you add arbitration to that, then all of a sudden,
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: you are adding to your payroll and you're going to
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: end up where you were at the end of this
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: past season, which Jerry Depoto said very plainly, we'll probably
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: start next season's payroll where we ended at.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: This past year. That's progress, by the way.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: And I'm just never going to think that this organization
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: is going to change its stripes and suddenly become the
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: New York Mets of spending. It's just not going to happen.
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: I'm okay with that game plan going into this off season.
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: Another wrinkle to the off season could be, and Bucky
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: brings us up all the time, his conversation that he
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: had with John Stanton a couple of years ago about
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: keeping those that you have and extending them before they
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: become free agents, using the last two years or three
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: years of their original contracts to try to bargain your
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: way toward a long term contract. They certainly did it
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: with Cal. I mean Cal signed a six year, one
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: and five million dollar contract. I mean, do you understand
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: what a bargain that.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Looks like right now?
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's incredible.
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: I mean the highest he's going to max out at
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: is at twenty three million dollars during this contract, Wan
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: Soto makes more than twice that.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Who is a better player this year?
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Cal?
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Cal?
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: Right, wasn't close, not even close. And that's an average
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: of seventeen and a half million. He's still not even
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: really making He made one million dollars this year. Yeah,
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: Maygan eleven next year, so we have him at eleven
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: million dollar value for next season and just twelve and
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: twenty twenty seven, so seventy and a half million dollars.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: So all of a sudden, here come the pitchers. We
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: know that their paydays are coming or they're not going
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: to be here, and you know they're going to command
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: a lot if they ever reached free agency. Logan Gilbert
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: looks like he's the next in line to get one
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: of these John Stanton early extensions.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Jerry was asked about it yesterday. Yeah, I will talk too.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Before that, was it?
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Noll clots of Logan before we talk to anybody else.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: That was it.
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Logan himself told Softy and Fame when he was
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: on with him about two months ago that hasn't been broached,
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: but that he is interested.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: And I don't think he really wants to leave Cow.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: I don't, And so I think of all the guys,
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: he's going to be the one most willing to pay
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: play ball. That said, that's still even if his agent
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: and Logan decide to take less. You're probably looking. I mean,
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: a top ten salary for a major league pitcher is
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: twenty seven million dollars per year. That's a top ten pitcher. Okay,
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: Max Freed most recently, this is just this past offseason,
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: and that's kind of who I would compare Logan to
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: in terms of quality, accomplishments, where they're at in their careers.
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: Got twenty seven point twenty five million dollars per year
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: from the Yankees just this offseason, So at similar age,
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: similar accomplishments, and hitting the market at a similar time.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: All right, now, I think Max Freed was already at
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: free agency where you would be buying out a couple
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: of years of Cal Rawley's first contract.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, So I think.
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: You would get him for less, but you're probably not
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: getting him less than twenty five. I mean Robbie Ray.
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: We signed Robby Ray to a twenty five million dollars
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: per year deal. Yeah, so think about a couple of
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: years of inflation after the Robbie Ray signing and you're
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: probably looking at twenty three to twenty five million dollars
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: per year. That's probably what you're looking at on average.
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: And that's with buying out the last two years of
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: the deal for Logan Gilbert Well, I.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Jumps it up quite a bit.
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: Now you don't have to start paying him twenty five
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: million dollars next year, but I think that's that's where
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: it's gonna And imagine the poop talking between Logan and
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: Cal at that point.
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: I mean it would be kluss. I would want them
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: both to be micd up twenty four hours.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: They think they're such a good friends and Logan's such
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: a sweetheart they probably would never ever rub that in.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: But he's going to make more money than Cal rabble, yeah,
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: I mean, his agent's going to make sure of it.
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: So that's what you're looking at. I mean, if for
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: those that were thinking, all right, let's go ahead and
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: get Logan locked in right now, let's get ahead of it.
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: Still probably looking at a twenty three to twenty five
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: million dollars per year salary for Logan Gilbert going forward,
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: And like I said, I don't think that's going to
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: impact the payroll in twenty twenty five or see me,
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: twenty twenty six. Might not even affect the payroll all
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: that much in twenty twenty seven, but eventually it will
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: when Cow's making his twenty three and Julio's making his
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: twenty five or whatever, and Logan's gonna be making his twenty.
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: Now you see that payroll starting to jump up. Now
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: you see why maybe they're a little cautious, yeah, about
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: adding free agents when they know that the bills coming
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: due on all of these young starting pitchers.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: And then the next year it's George.
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: And I've said all along, I don't think that they're
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: going to go with Logan and George. I think they're
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: going to go Logan. And my guess is they're gonna
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: get one more year of cheap George and then have
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: two years left on his deal, and you can really
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: fetch an incredible trade package for George Kirby, and then
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: I think they'll let another couple of years pass, and
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: then they'll make a decision between Miller and Wu based
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: off of health probably and they're going to do the
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: same thing. One of them will get locked up, the
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: other one that will probably trade with multiple years left
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: on their deal and kind of restock things, or I mean,
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: you can get significant pieces for quality young pitchers with
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: multiple years left on their small original contracts before they
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: actually start making big money. Also, keeping mind Kate Anderson's
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: coming yep, and that is one of the most major
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: league ready starting pitchers I've ever seen at college. I mean,
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: he's not Paul Skeen's, he's not doesn't have that kind
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: of upside, but in terms of floor, that guy's ready
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: to pitch and the majors sooner than later.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: So he's going to enter this equation very soon.
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: And I wonder if it will come at the cost
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: of Luis Castillo being on this roster next season, And that,
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: more than maybe anything else this offseason is something to
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: monitor because if they do have to create money for
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: this free agent player or or this trade acquisition that
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: everybody wants to add to the offense, then it's going
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: to have to probably come at the cost. I don't
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: think they're going to go told you yesterday, we're not
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: going to go twenty five million dollars over our payroll
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: that we have right now, So we're not going to
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: play in that box sandbox. So if we are to
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: add a significant piece, that means they're going to subtract
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: something from the current roster. And there is zero question
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: what the most logical choice would be Luis Castillo with
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: Kate Anderson on the way making twenty four million dollars
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: for each of the next two years. And I know
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: he is the leader of the group. He really is
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: the leader of that pitching group. But these other guys
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: now have enough experience that collectively they can lead themselves.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Or maybe it's Brian woot that steps into that leadership role,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: who knows.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: But I don't think that they have to have the
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: veteran around anymore, is my point. I think they got
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: enough experience in this league that they can handle it
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: alone without big brother being around. And so if they're
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: going to create any kind of money to add something
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: of significance this offseason, it probably comes from them subtracting
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: Luis Castillo and just to tell you, I don't think
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: you'll get a big return for him. I think that
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: you will mostly get the payment relief and then I
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: think that you will get some pieces in return in
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: that kind of deal. So that's the starting pitching as
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: I see it, landscape for this offseason, for the marriage.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that makes the most sense.
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: I mean, we even had started talking about the idea
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: of moving Luis Castillo last year.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean it's not surprising.
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think that it should be. And if
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: it does happen, I don't think you should be surprised. No,
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: they do love him, yeah, I will say that, have
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: him too, Yeah. Yeah, but you know they're also grown ups.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: We're all adults, and we understand that it is a
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: business and in order to pay Logan and then maybe eventually,
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: George or Brian or whoever, you might not be able
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: to keep a aging twenty four million dollars starting pitcher
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: on your roster.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just might not be able to do it. All right.
• 28:08
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  Speaker 6: This week, we've got an atmospheric river to wash away
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  Speaker 6: Now we've got Game one of that stupid series tonight,
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  Speaker 6: At least we have the Seahawks to pick us up
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we could have poured our emotions into football again.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, gosh, Well, the Kraken are coming off a road
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like or it does.
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  Speaker 6: Seem like it's a different feeling with this team under
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  Speaker 6: Lane Lambert, even though I cannot put in my head
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  Speaker 1: Oh, he's a vampire.
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  Speaker 3: And we've got that going for us. Yeah, which is great.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.
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  Speaker 1: Time we're gonna be terrible during day games.
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  Speaker 3: I am a fan, Burt, I just made that up.
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  Speaker 1: Are you a fan? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: So far, so far, so good.
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  Speaker 6: I'm excited to see what the Cracking can do this season,
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: hopefully a playoff run that doesn't rip my heart from
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: my chest with one pitch.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm telling you what if George comes in, slaps
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: one from the blue line and beats us in the playoffs.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: I give up all sports that happens.
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  Speaker 6: The Huski's host the ferocious fighting the lion I tomorrow,
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  Speaker 6: and I'm really hoping for a win at home.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: They need it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we need it.
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, coming off last week. Yeah, just get a solid
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  Speaker 6: win in the rain. Give those fans that are gonna
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  Speaker 6: tough it out.
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  Speaker 1: Look on behalf.
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  Speaker 5: With all my love for Washington, you know you can't
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry in advance that you're having to face such
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  Speaker 1: a powerhouse.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah on Saturday, yep, I agree.
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  Speaker 3: It is a tough test. Well, you're a.
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  Speaker 1: Favorite, though. Think about that accomplishment.
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  Speaker 5: That's pretty incredible, right, Yeah, favorite against that jugger?
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  Speaker 3: Not how did that happen?
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: The NBA at least distracted us from some of our
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: misery by unloading a massive scandal involving the actual mafia
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  Speaker 6: on It's yesterday, Like the actual mafia. I don't want
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  Speaker 6: to say it too loud in case they're listening. At
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, really killing it really like what you're doing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like what you said. There.
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  Speaker 6: At least we don't have to worry about anyone on
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: our NBA team being involved more despair.
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  Speaker 5: Ah, it's got a bucket loaded despair.
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  Speaker 3: So much despair. I'm done.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm done. We got a hole in our buckets.
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  Speaker 3: Well we got, dear Liza, we.
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  Speaker 5: All right, nicely done. Sorry about your despair. I know,
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  Speaker 1: All you really are staying on top of things.
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