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Microdosing Mushrooms for Moms: Breaking Taboos, Healing, and Rewriting Wellness with Moms on Mushrooms founder Tracey Tee · The Iconic Midlife with Roxy Manning

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If
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you
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want
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happy,
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healthy
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moms,
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raising
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happy,
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healthy
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kids
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like
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this
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is
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a
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pathway
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to
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really
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help.
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What
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would
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you
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say
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to
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her
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if
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she
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said,
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mom,
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I
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want
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to
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try
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microdosing,
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I
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want
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to
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try
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mushrooms.
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If
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it's
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between
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binge
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drinking
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a
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bunch
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of
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Captain
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Morgans
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at
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a
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party
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and
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taking
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some
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mushrooms,
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like
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I
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would
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always
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suggest
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taking
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the
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mushrooms
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comes
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from
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the
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ground.
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It's
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natural.
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When
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a
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parent's
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doing
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something,
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the
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kid
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does
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not
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think
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it's
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cool.
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If
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you
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wanted
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a
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good
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way
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to
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prevent
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your
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children
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from
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doing
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it,
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just
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do
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it
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yourself.
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Right?
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I
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love
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how
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you
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refer
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to
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it
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as
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medicine.
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Call
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it
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that.
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Psilocybin
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is
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sort
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of
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like
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my
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current
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master
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teacher,
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and
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I
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really
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don't
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work
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with
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it
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recreationally.
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It's
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very
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sacred
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to
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me.
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People
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are
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waking
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up
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to
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being
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really
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tired
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of
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being
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numbed
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out.
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We're
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tired
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of
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the
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pills,
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we're
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tired
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of
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the
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booze,
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we're
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tired
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of
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the
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hangovers.
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What
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advice
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would
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you
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give
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your
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25
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year
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old
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self?
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Oh,
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girl,
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do
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the
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drugs.
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More
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mushrooms.
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Take
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the
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mushrooms,
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honey,
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you're
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gonna
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be
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okay.
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That's
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what
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I
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would
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tell
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her,
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right?
1:01
Stop
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drinking
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so
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much
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and
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take
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some
1:03
mushroom.
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What
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if
1:08
the
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secret
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to
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becoming
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a
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calmer,
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more
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creative,
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more
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connected
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version
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of
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yourself
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wasn't
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another
1:14
glass
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of
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wine,
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but
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a
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microdose
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of
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mushrooms?
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Today,
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I'm
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sitting
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down
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with
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Tracy
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T.
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Founder
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of
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Moms
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on
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Mushrooms
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and
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a
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leading
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voice
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in
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the
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modern
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psychedelics
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movement.
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We're
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diving
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deep
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into
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why
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so
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many
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women,
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especially
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moms,
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are
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quietly
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exploring
1:30
microdosing
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as
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a
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path
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to
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emotional
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balance,
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creativity,
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and
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self
1:35
reinvention.
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Tracy's
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breaking
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down.
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What's
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the
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hype
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and
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what's
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the
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science?
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Sharing
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wild
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stories
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from
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the
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front
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lines
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of
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this
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movement
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and
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opening
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up
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about
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the
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profound
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ways
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psychedelics
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are
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reshaping
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conversations
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about
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mental
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health,
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parenting,
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and
1:49
purpose.
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If
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you've
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ever
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wondered
1:51
whether
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microdosing
1:52
can
1:52
change
1:52
your
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life
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or
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just
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want
1:54
the
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tea
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on
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what
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everyone's
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whispering
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about,
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you
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do
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not
1:57
want
1:57
to
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miss
1:58
this
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one.
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Tracy.
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Welcome
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to
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the
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iconic
2:01
midlife.
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How
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are
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you
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today?
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I
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am
2:04
great.
2:04
Thank
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you
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for
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having
2:05
me.
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Oh,
2:05
my
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goodness.
2:06
Well,
2:06
I'm
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so
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excited
2:07
you're
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here.
2:07
I
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know
2:07
it's
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been
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a
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long
2:08
time
2:08
coming.
2:09
We've
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had
2:09
to
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reschedule
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a
2:10
couple
2:11
of
2:11
times,
2:11
but
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I'm
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glad
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we
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have
2:12
finally
2:12
made
2:12
it.
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So,
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yes.
2:14
So
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great.
2:15
So
2:15
great.
2:16
I
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love
2:17
your
2:18
platform.
2:18
I've
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been
2:18
checking
2:19
it
2:19
out.
2:19
It's
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so
2:20
cool.
2:21
I'm
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so,
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like,
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I
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just
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think
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it's
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amazing
2:23
that
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you're
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not
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afraid
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to
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speak
2:24
out
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about
2:25
Something
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that
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could
2:26
be
2:26
considered
2:27
taboo.
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And
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for
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those
2:29
who
2:29
may
2:30
not
2:30
be
2:30
familiar
2:31
with
2:31
your
2:32
platform,
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Moms
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on
2:33
Mushrooms.
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What
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kind
2:36
of
2:36
brought
2:36
you
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to
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this?
2:37
Like
2:37
what,
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what
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was
2:39
it
2:39
about?
2:39
You
2:40
know,
2:40
what
2:41
was
2:41
going
2:41
on
2:41
in
2:41
your
2:41
life?
2:42
Or,
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you
2:43
know,
2:43
mushroom,
2:43
like
2:44
what.
2:44
How
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did
2:44
this
2:45
all
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come
2:45
together?
2:45
It's
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so
2:46
fascinating.
2:47
Yeah,
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well,
2:48
it
2:48
is
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definitely
2:49
a.
2:51
It
2:51
is
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definitely
2:52
a
2:52
long,
2:52
like,
2:53
heroine's
2:53
journey,
2:54
but
2:54
the.
2:55
I'll
2:55
try
2:55
to
2:56
keep
2:56
it
2:56
succinct.
2:57
I
2:57
really
2:57
felt
2:58
when
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I
2:58
started
2:59
working
2:59
with
2:59
this
2:59
medicine
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that
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it
3:04
was
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the
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perfect
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thing
3:06
for
3:06
mothers
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in
3:07
this
3:07
time,
3:08
in
3:08
this
3:09
time
3:09
that
3:09
we're
3:09
in.
3:10
I
3:10
came
3:11
to
3:11
the
3:11
medicine
3:12
by
3:12
way
3:12
of
3:12
being
3:13
a
3:13
comedian.
3:13
I
3:14
had
3:14
a
3:14
live
3:14
comedy
3:15
show
3:16
that
3:16
toured
3:17
the
3:17
country
3:17
for
3:17
years
3:18
and
3:18
years.
3:18
It
3:18
was
3:18
pretty
3:19
successful.
3:19
And
3:20
then
3:20
when
3:20
the
3:20
pandemic
3:21
happened,
3:22
we
3:22
watched
3:23
our
3:23
whole
3:23
business
3:23
sort
3:24
of
3:24
slip
3:24
through
3:24
our
3:24
fingers
3:25
like
3:25
sand.
3:26
And
3:27
it
3:27
that,
3:28
you
3:28
know,
3:29
coupled
3:29
with
3:29
navigating,
3:30
you
3:31
know,
3:31
yanking
3:32
a
3:32
sweet
3:32
third
3:33
grade
3:33
girl
3:33
from
3:34
her
3:34
school
3:34
and
3:34
putting
3:34
her
3:35
on
3:35
a
3:35
computer,
3:35
which
3:35
she
3:36
didn't
3:36
even
3:36
have,
3:36
and
3:37
all
3:37
the
3:38
things
3:38
left
3:39
a
3:39
lot
3:39
of
3:39
us
3:40
with
3:40
a
3:40
lot
3:40
of
3:40
existential
3:41
angst
3:42
and
3:42
grief.
3:43
And
3:44
then
3:44
losing
3:45
a
3:45
business
3:45
on
3:45
top
3:46
of
3:46
it
3:46
was
3:47
really
3:47
intense.
3:48
And
3:49
I
3:49
had
3:50
sort
3:50
of
3:50
been
3:50
on
3:50
a
3:50
spiritual
3:51
journey
3:51
really
3:52
ever
3:52
since
3:52
I
3:52
turned
3:52
40.
3:53
I
3:53
think
3:54
when
3:54
women
3:55
turn
3:55
40,
3:56
we
3:56
tend
3:56
to
3:56
ask
3:57
those
3:57
big
3:58
questions,
3:58
right?
3:59
Like,
3:59
who
3:59
am
3:59
I?
4:00
Why
4:00
am
4:00
I
4:00
here?
4:00
What
4:00
am
4:01
I
4:01
doing
4:01
with
4:01
my
4:01
life?
4:01
Is
4:02
this
4:02
the
4:02
life
4:02
I
4:02
want?
4:04
And
4:04
for
4:04
me,
4:05
that
4:05
sent
4:05
me
4:05
down
4:06
a
4:06
now
4:07
almost
4:07
decade
4:07
long
4:08
rabbit
4:08
hole
4:08
of
4:09
searching
4:09
for
4:09
those
4:10
answers.
4:10
And
4:11
I
4:11
would
4:12
come
4:12
up
4:12
against
4:13
psychedelics
4:13
every
4:14
now
4:14
and
4:14
then
4:14
in
4:15
my
4:15
studies
4:15
and
4:16
read
4:16
about
4:16
ayahuasca
4:17
or
4:17
psilocybin.
4:18
And
4:18
it
4:19
all
4:19
sounded
4:20
amazing
4:20
and
4:20
really
4:20
resonated.
4:21
And
4:21
then
4:21
I
4:22
just
4:22
would
4:22
always
4:22
think,
4:23
well,
4:23
I
4:23
could
4:23
never
4:24
do
4:24
that.
4:24
I'm
4:24
a,
4:25
like,
4:25
I
4:25
can't
4:26
go
4:26
to
4:26
the
4:27
Amazon
4:27
rainforest
4:28
and
4:28
do,
4:28
you
4:29
know,
4:29
six
4:29
rounds
4:29
of
4:30
ayahuasca
4:31
for
4:31
three
4:31
weeks.
4:32
And
4:32
I
4:32
was
4:33
raised
4:33
in
4:33
a
4:33
very
4:34
conservative
4:35
Christian
4:35
home
4:35
during
4:36
the
4:36
dairy
4:36
years.
4:36
So
4:37
I've
4:37
got
4:37
Nancy
4:37
Reagan
4:38
in
4:38
my
4:38
ear
4:38
telling
4:39
me
4:39
I'm
4:39
just
4:39
going
4:39
to
4:39
fry
4:40
like
4:40
an
4:40
egg
4:40
and
4:41
jump
4:41
up
4:41
a.
4:41
Building
4:41
your
4:42
brain
4:42
on
4:42
drugs,
4:43
Right?
4:43
Remember
4:43
that
4:43
commercial?
4:44
I
4:44
can't
4:44
do
4:45
that.
4:45
Yeah.
4:47
So
4:47
it
4:47
just
4:47
never
4:47
really
4:48
seemed
4:48
like
4:48
a
4:48
possibility.
4:49
But
4:49
then
4:50
after
4:50
the
4:50
pandemic
4:51
started
4:51
and
4:52
the
4:52
lockdowns,
4:53
it
4:54
kind
4:54
of
4:54
just
4:54
seemed
4:55
like
4:56
a
4:56
why
4:57
not?
4:57
And
4:57
I
4:58
actually,
4:59
my
4:59
same
4:59
business
5:00
partner,
5:00
who's
5:00
also
5:01
my
5:01
best
5:01
friend
5:01
since
5:01
8th
5:02
grade,
5:02
I
5:02
had
5:02
the
5:03
show
5:03
with,
5:03
she
5:03
invited
5:04
me
5:04
on
5:04
a
5:04
camping
5:04
trip
5:05
with
5:05
a
5:05
bunch
5:05
of
5:05
women
5:06
in
5:06
the
5:06
summer
5:06
of
5:07
2020.
5:08
And
5:08
she
5:09
said,
5:09
I
5:09
want
5:09
you
5:10
to
5:10
come
5:10
to
5:10
this
5:10
lake.
5:11
We're
5:11
gonna
5:12
go
5:12
on
5:12
a
5:12
camping
5:12
trip.
5:12
It's
5:12
gonna
5:12
be
5:12
a
5:13
bunch
5:13
of
5:13
really
5:13
cool
5:14
women,
5:14
and
5:14
you're
5:15
gonna
5:15
put
5:15
your
5:15
big
5:15
girl
5:16
pants
5:16
on.
5:16
You're
5:16
gonna
5:17
do
5:17
mushrooms.
5:18
And
5:18
I
5:18
was
5:18
like,
5:19
okay.
5:19
And
5:20
so
5:20
I
5:20
had
5:20
this
5:22
totally
5:22
stereotypical
5:24
psychedelic.
5:25
First
5:25
psychedelic
5:26
experience.
5:27
I,
5:27
you
5:27
know,
5:28
fell
5:29
in
5:29
love
5:29
with
5:29
everything.
5:30
The
5:30
colors
5:30
were
5:31
brighter.
5:31
I
5:31
saw
5:31
a
5:32
grid
5:32
over
5:32
the
5:32
earth.
5:33
I
5:33
felt
5:33
connected
5:33
to
5:34
God,
5:34
and
5:35
I
5:35
understood
5:36
everything.
5:36
And
5:37
I.
5:37
I
5:38
remembered
5:38
going
5:38
to
5:39
sleep
5:39
that
5:39
night
5:39
with
5:40
my
5:40
best
5:40
friend,
5:41
just
5:41
like
5:41
in
5:41
our
5:42
tent,
5:42
just
5:43
talking
5:43
about
5:44
how
5:44
much
5:44
we
5:44
loved
5:44
our
5:45
husbands
5:45
and
5:45
our
5:45
children
5:46
and
5:46
how
5:46
grateful
5:47
we
5:47
are
5:47
for
5:47
our
5:48
lives,
5:48
and
5:48
just
5:48
going
5:48
to
5:49
bed
5:49
with
5:49
my
5:50
face
5:50
hurting
5:50
because
5:51
I
5:51
was
5:51
smiling
5:51
so
5:52
much.
5:52
And
5:53
I
5:53
woke
5:53
up
5:53
the
5:53
next
5:53
day
5:54
and
5:54
I
5:54
was
5:54
like,
5:54
well,
5:55
this
5:55
is
5:55
it.
5:55
Like,
5:56
this
5:56
is
5:56
it.
5:58
And
5:59
that
5:59
really
5:59
gave
6:00
me
6:00
permission
6:01
to
6:01
explore
6:01
microdosing.
6:03
And
6:03
when
6:03
I
6:03
started
6:04
microdosing,
6:05
that's
6:05
when
6:06
all
6:06
of
6:06
those
6:06
question
6:07
marks
6:07
and
6:07
all
6:08
the
6:08
studies
6:08
and
6:09
different
6:09
explorations
6:10
I
6:10
had
6:10
had
6:10
all
6:11
started
6:11
to
6:11
kind
6:11
of.
6:12
All
6:12
the
6:12
dots
6:13
started
6:13
to
6:13
get
6:13
connected.
6:14
And
6:15
the
6:15
longer
6:15
and
6:16
more
6:16
intentionally
6:17
I
6:17
microdosed
6:18
and
6:18
incorporated
6:18
that
6:19
into
6:19
my
6:19
practice,
6:20
the
6:20
more
6:21
of
6:21
the
6:22
bad
6:22
stuff
6:22
that
6:22
I
6:23
had
6:23
wanted
6:23
to
6:24
release
6:24
was
6:24
just
6:24
sort
6:25
of
6:25
falling
6:25
off
6:25
me.
6:26
I
6:26
felt
6:26
myself
6:27
just
6:27
get,
6:28
like,
6:28
the
6:28
frayed
6:29
edges,
6:29
just
6:30
the
6:30
raw
6:31
edges
6:31
just
6:31
got
6:31
softer.
6:32
And
6:32
I
6:32
just
6:33
felt
6:33
myself
6:34
becoming
6:34
the
6:35
version
6:35
of
6:35
myself
6:36
that
6:36
I
6:36
always
6:36
wanted
6:37
to
6:37
be.
6:38
And
6:38
it
6:38
really
6:39
was
6:40
during
6:40
that
6:40
time
6:41
that
6:41
I
6:42
applied
6:42
what
6:42
I
6:43
did
6:43
for
6:43
my
6:43
comedy
6:44
show,
6:44
which
6:44
was
6:44
for
6:44
mothers
6:45
and
6:45
bringing
6:45
moms
6:45
to
6:46
laugh,
6:46
bringing
6:47
moms
6:47
together
6:47
to
6:47
laugh
6:47
about
6:48
the
6:48
things
6:48
we
6:48
have
6:48
in
6:48
common.
6:50
I
6:50
just.
6:51
It
6:51
sort
6:51
of
6:51
occurred
6:52
to
6:52
me
6:52
that
6:52
what
6:52
we
6:52
did
6:53
with
6:53
comedy
6:53
now
6:54
in
6:54
these
6:54
post
6:55
Covid
6:55
years
6:56
really
6:56
needs
6:56
to
6:56
be
6:56
done
6:57
in
6:57
community
6:58
and
6:58
in
6:58
talking.
6:59
And
6:59
I
7:00
think
7:00
this
7:00
medicine
7:00
was
7:00
this
7:01
beautiful,
7:01
gentle
7:02
catalyst
7:02
to
7:02
help
7:03
moms
7:03
heal
7:03
and
7:04
get
7:04
to
7:04
the
7:05
root
7:05
of
7:06
why
7:06
they
7:06
can't
7:07
be
7:07
women
7:08
who
7:08
also
7:08
happen
7:09
to
7:09
be
7:09
mothers
7:10
and
7:10
find
7:10
the
7:10
best
7:10
version
7:11
of
7:11
themselves.
7:11
And
7:12
then
7:12
I
7:13
was
7:13
in
7:13
meditation
7:13
one
7:14
day,
7:14
no
7:14
drugs
7:15
involved,
7:15
and
7:16
Moms
7:16
on
7:17
mushrooms
7:17
just
7:17
sort
7:17
of
7:18
downloaded
7:19
into
7:19
my
7:19
head.
7:19
And
7:19
I
7:20
sat
7:20
up
7:20
and
7:20
I
7:20
was
7:20
like,
7:21
well,
7:21
that's
7:21
genius.
7:22
Certainly
7:22
someone's
7:23
thought
7:23
of
7:23
it
7:23
and
7:25
it
7:25
was
7:25
available,
7:26
and
7:26
the
7:27
rest
7:27
is
7:27
sort
7:27
of
7:27
history.
7:28
So
7:28
that's.
7:29
That's
7:29
the
7:29
short
7:29
version.
7:30
Did
7:30
you
7:31
ever
7:31
do
7:31
mushrooms
7:32
in
7:32
your
7:33
younger
7:33
years,
7:33
like,
7:34
before
7:34
this
7:34
camping
7:35
trip?
7:36
No.
7:36
I
7:37
mean,
7:37
I
7:37
think
7:37
I
7:37
tried
7:38
some
7:38
one
7:38
time
7:39
in
7:39
college,
7:39
but,
7:39
like,
7:40
I
7:40
don't
7:40
think
7:40
I
7:41
took
7:41
enough
7:41
or
7:42
anything.
7:42
But,
7:42
no,
7:42
I
7:42
never
7:43
did
7:43
drugs.
7:44
I
7:44
mean,
7:44
I
7:44
went
7:44
to
7:45
college
7:45
in
7:45
the
7:45
90s
7:46
when
7:46
everyone
7:46
was
7:46
doing
7:47
ecstasy.
7:48
And,
7:48
you
7:48
know,
7:48
I'm
7:49
from
7:49
Colorado
7:49
and
7:50
I've
7:50
definitely
7:50
had
7:51
my
7:51
fair
7:51
share
7:51
of
7:52
marijuana,
7:53
but
7:53
like,
7:54
no,
7:54
I
7:54
never
7:54
did
7:55
any.
7:55
Never.
7:56
I
7:56
was
7:56
a
7:56
bartender
7:57
in
7:57
Los
7:57
Angeles.
7:57
I
7:57
never
7:58
did
7:58
cocaine.
7:58
Like,
7:59
I
7:59
never
7:59
did
7:59
anything.
8:01
So
8:01
I
8:01
just.
8:02
Yeah,
8:03
no
8:03
one's
8:03
more
8:03
surprised
8:04
than
8:04
me
8:04
to
8:04
be
8:04
sitting
8:05
here
8:05
talking
8:05
about
8:07
psychedelics
8:08
since
8:08
that's
8:08
my
8:08
career
8:09
now.
8:09
Yeah.
8:10
So
8:10
good.
8:10
I
8:10
love
8:11
how
8:11
you
8:11
refer
8:11
to
8:11
it
8:12
as
8:12
medicine.
8:12
Why
8:13
do
8:13
you
8:13
call
8:13
it
8:13
that?
8:15
Because
8:15
it
8:15
is,
8:16
it's
8:16
truly
8:17
medicine.
8:19
I've
8:19
been
8:19
really
8:20
fortunate
8:20
to
8:20
sort
8:20
of
8:21
fall
8:21
into
8:21
mentorship
8:22
with
8:22
some
8:22
beautiful
8:23
women
8:23
who,
8:24
I
8:24
always
8:24
say
8:24
I'm
8:24
like
8:25
raised
8:25
by
8:27
medicine
8:28
women
8:28
and
8:28
they
8:29
really
8:29
walk
8:29
like
8:29
the
8:30
earth
8:30
path
8:31
and
8:31
the
8:31
earth
8:31
based
8:32
way.
8:32
And
8:33
when
8:33
you
8:33
start
8:34
to
8:34
look
8:34
at
8:34
what
8:34
the
8:35
gifts
8:35
of
8:36
the
8:36
Great
8:36
Mother
8:37
give
8:37
us
8:38
for
8:38
healing,
8:39
for
8:39
health,
8:39
for,
8:40
for
8:40
all
8:41
the
8:41
things
8:41
for
8:41
nourishment,
8:43
they
8:43
are
8:43
truly
8:44
medicine.
8:45
And
8:45
I
8:46
really
8:46
don't,
8:49
I
8:49
don't
8:50
use.
8:51
Psilocybin
8:51
is
8:52
sort
8:52
of
8:52
like
8:52
my
8:52
current
8:53
master
8:53
teacher.
8:53
And
8:54
I
8:54
really
8:54
don't
8:54
work
8:55
with
8:55
it
8:55
recreationally.
8:56
It's
8:56
very
8:57
sacred
8:57
to
8:57
me.
8:58
And
8:58
it
8:58
has
8:59
been
8:59
a
8:59
healing
9:00
modality.
9:00
And
9:01
microdosing
9:01
in
9:01
particular,
9:02
I
9:02
think
9:02
is
9:03
healing
9:04
medicine.
9:04
It's
9:04
not
9:05
like
9:05
another
9:05
supplement.
9:06
It's
9:07
much
9:07
deeper.
9:07
There's,
9:08
there's
9:08
energetics
9:09
around
9:09
psychedelics
9:10
that
9:10
are
9:10
hard
9:11
to
9:11
discuss
9:11
because
9:12
they're
9:12
not
9:12
like
9:12
in
9:12
a
9:13
scientific
9:13
paper,
9:13
but
9:14
they
9:14
do
9:14
exist.
9:15
And
9:15
that's
9:15
again,
9:15
how
9:16
my
9:16
mentors
9:16
and
9:17
how
9:17
I've
9:17
really
9:18
learned
9:18
this
9:18
way.
9:19
So
9:20
it,
9:20
it
9:21
has
9:21
to
9:21
be
9:21
medicine.
9:21
Like,
9:22
it
9:22
can't
9:22
really
9:22
be
9:22
anything
9:23
else.
9:23
Definitely
9:23
not
9:23
just
9:24
like
9:24
a
9:24
drug.
9:25
When
9:25
we
9:25
talk
9:26
about
9:26
going
9:26
to
9:26
College
9:26
in
9:27
the
9:27
90s,
9:27
I
9:27
can
9:28
definitely
9:28
relate
9:29
because
9:29
I
9:29
was
9:29
in
9:29
College
9:30
in
9:30
the
9:30
90s
9:30
too,
9:31
in
9:31
Los
9:31
Angeles.
9:32
And
9:33
you
9:33
know,
9:33
mushrooms
9:34
were
9:34
definitely
9:35
around,
9:35
but
9:36
back
9:36
then
9:36
it
9:36
was
9:36
like
9:37
taking
9:37
a
9:38
handful
9:38
of
9:38
mushrooms,
9:39
you
9:39
know,
9:40
not
9:40
really
9:40
knowing
9:41
dosages,
9:41
just
9:42
taking
9:42
them
9:43
and
9:43
really
9:43
taking
9:43
them
9:44
more
9:44
to
9:44
just
9:45
get,
9:45
you
9:46
know,
9:46
get
9:46
crazy.
9:47
Like,
9:47
not
9:47
in
9:48
any
9:48
sort
9:48
of
9:48
measured
9:49
way,
9:49
which
9:50
is
9:50
so
9:51
interesting.
9:51
There
9:51
were
9:51
different
9:52
modalities.
9:52
I
9:53
mean,
9:53
you
9:53
could
9:53
drink
9:53
a
9:53
mushroom
9:54
tea,
9:54
you
9:54
could
9:54
eat
9:55
them.
9:55
Like
9:56
nowadays
9:57
it's
9:58
so
9:58
different
9:58
because
9:59
microdosing
10:00
is
10:01
so
10:01
the
10:01
hot
10:01
button
10:01
topic.
10:02
You
10:02
know,
10:02
it's
10:02
like
10:03
people
10:03
are
10:03
really
10:04
like,
10:04
you're
10:04
saying,
10:04
like,
10:05
it's
10:05
very
10:05
measured
10:06
now.
10:06
It's
10:06
very
10:06
like,
10:07
okay,
10:07
take
10:08
this
10:08
much.
10:08
I
10:08
mean,
10:09
I
10:09
see
10:09
it.
10:10
There
10:10
are
10:10
a
10:10
lot
10:10
of
10:10
companies
10:11
out
10:11
there
10:11
that
10:11
sell
10:12
mushrooms,
10:12
mushroom
10:12
chocolates
10:13
and
10:13
all,
10:14
you
10:14
know,
10:14
mushroom
10:15
gummies
10:15
and
10:15
all
10:15
the
10:15
things.
10:15
And
10:16
there
10:16
are
10:16
like
10:16
dosages
10:17
on
10:17
the
10:17
boxes.
10:18
Like,
10:18
take
10:19
this
10:19
much.
10:19
If
10:19
you
10:19
Want
10:19
to
10:19
fill
10:20
this
10:20
and
10:20
this
10:20
and
10:20
that.
10:21
So
10:21
I
10:22
guess
10:22
with
10:22
microdosing
10:24
too,
10:24
like,
10:25
you
10:25
know,
10:26
it's
10:26
become
10:26
such
10:26
a
10:27
hot
10:27
thing.
10:27
Like
10:27
how
10:27
do
10:28
you
10:28
start
10:29
there?
10:29
Like,
10:30
what
10:30
could
10:30
a
10:31
midlife
10:31
woman
10:31
expect
10:32
if
10:32
she
10:32
did
10:32
microdose?
10:33
Kind
10:34
of
10:34
give,
10:34
like
10:34
the
10:34
whole
10:34
trajectory
10:35
of
10:35
that.
10:36
Sure,
10:37
yeah.
10:37
Well,
10:38
first,
10:38
I
10:38
think
10:38
we've
10:38
gotten
10:38
a
10:39
lot
10:39
smarter
10:39
than
10:39
the
10:40
70s.
10:40
I
10:40
think
10:40
a
10:41
lot
10:41
of
10:41
people
10:41
who
10:41
are
10:42
in
10:42
this
10:42
space
10:42
now
10:43
and
10:43
are
10:43
really
10:44
psychedelic
10:45
advocates
10:46
want
10:46
this
10:46
medicine
10:47
to
10:47
stick.
10:48
And
10:48
I
10:48
think
10:49
there's
10:49
a
10:49
large
10:49
amount
10:50
of
10:50
people
10:50
who
10:50
come
10:50
to
10:51
this
10:51
medicine
10:51
with
10:51
a
10:52
lot
10:52
of
10:52
reverence,
10:53
even
10:53
in
10:53
a
10:53
recreational
10:54
sense.
10:54
And
10:55
just
10:55
because
10:55
I
10:55
don't
10:56
work
10:56
with
10:56
it
10:56
that
10:56
way
10:56
doesn't
10:57
mean
10:57
that
10:57
I
10:57
really
10:58
judge
10:58
it.
10:59
I
10:59
think
10:59
there's
10:59
a
10:59
lot
11:00
of
11:00
healing,
11:00
you
11:00
know,
11:00
there's
11:01
people
11:01
that
11:02
really
11:02
think
11:02
there's
11:02
a
11:02
lot
11:02
of
11:02
healing
11:02
that
11:03
can
11:03
happen,
11:03
like
11:03
at
11:04
a
11:04
concert
11:04
or
11:04
a
11:04
rave,
11:05
you
11:05
know.
11:05
And
11:05
working
11:05
with
11:06
this
11:06
medicine,
11:06
I
11:06
believe
11:06
that
11:07
to
11:07
be
11:07
true.
11:07
But
11:07
I
11:08
think
11:08
we've
11:08
gotten
11:08
a
11:08
lot
11:09
smarter
11:11
and
11:11
now
11:11
that
11:12
some
11:12
of
11:12
the
11:12
grip
11:13
on
11:13
research
11:13
has
11:14
been
11:14
released,
11:14
like,
11:14
we
11:15
just
11:15
know
11:15
more
11:16
and
11:16
we
11:16
can
11:16
talk
11:16
about
11:17
it
11:17
a
11:17
little
11:17
bit
11:17
more
11:17
freely.
11:18
So
11:19
things
11:19
like
11:20
lab
11:20
testing
11:21
and
11:21
dosage
11:22
are
11:23
important
11:23
so
11:24
that
11:24
you
11:24
have
11:24
an
11:24
experience
11:25
that
11:25
is
11:26
like
11:26
manageable
11:27
for
11:27
you.
11:28
And
11:28
microdosing
11:30
was
11:30
coined
11:31
by
11:32
Dr.
11:32
James
11:33
Fadiman
11:33
actually
11:34
back
11:34
in
11:34
the
11:34
90s,
11:34
but
11:35
didn't
11:35
really
11:35
catch
11:35
on
11:35
until
11:36
the
11:36
early,
11:37
like
11:38
mid
11:38
2000s
11:39
really.
11:40
And
11:41
the
11:42
idea
11:42
is
11:42
that
11:43
you're
11:43
taking
11:43
a
11:43
sub
11:44
perceptual
11:45
or
11:45
sub
11:45
hallucinogenic
11:46
dose
11:47
of
11:48
psilocybin
11:49
or
11:50
lsd,
11:50
but
11:50
I'll
11:51
just
11:51
focus
11:51
on
11:51
psilocybin.
11:53
And
11:54
you're
11:54
taking
11:55
it
11:55
in
11:55
small
11:56
doses
11:57
over
11:57
time.
11:58
And
11:58
the
11:59
idea
11:59
is
11:59
that
12:00
it
12:00
will
12:00
work
12:01
with
12:01
your
12:01
five
12:01
H2A
12:02
receptors,
12:03
your
12:03
serotonin
12:04
reuptake
12:05
receptors,
12:05
and
12:06
your
12:06
brain
12:07
and
12:07
rewire
12:08
your
12:08
brain
12:09
in
12:10
the
12:10
same
12:10
way.
12:11
That
12:11
can
12:12
happen
12:12
in
12:12
a
12:12
large
12:13
dose
12:13
experience.
12:14
But
12:15
because
12:15
you're
12:15
taking
12:16
such
12:16
small
12:16
amounts,
12:17
you're
12:17
not
12:17
having
12:17
the
12:18
hallucinations,
12:19
the
12:19
visuals.
12:19
You're
12:20
in
12:20
total
12:20
control
12:21
of
12:22
your
12:22
day
12:22
to
12:22
day
12:22
life
12:24
and
12:24
it's
12:24
kind
12:24
of
12:24
working
12:25
in
12:25
the
12:25
background.
12:27
And
12:28
so
12:30
a
12:30
lot
12:30
of
12:30
it
12:31
is
12:31
anecdotal
12:32
because
12:33
to
12:33
do
12:33
a
12:34
longitudinal
12:34
study
12:35
around
12:35
microdosing
12:36
is
12:36
actually
12:36
really
12:36
hard
12:37
because
12:37
you'd
12:37
have
12:37
to
12:37
have
12:39
everyone
12:39
taking
12:40
the
12:40
exact
12:40
same
12:41
grow
12:41
of
12:42
mushrooms
12:42
at
12:42
the
12:43
exact
12:43
same
12:43
dose.
12:43
They'd
12:44
have
12:44
to
12:44
weigh
12:44
the
12:44
same,
12:45
eat
12:45
the
12:45
same,
12:45
have
12:46
the
12:46
same
12:46
amount
12:46
of
12:46
stress,
12:48
be
12:48
in
12:48
the
12:48
same
12:48
room
12:49
all
12:49
day
12:49
long.
12:50
It's
12:50
just
12:50
a
12:50
hard
12:50
study
12:51
to
12:52
quantify.
12:52
But
12:53
what
12:53
we
12:53
know
12:54
anecdotally
12:54
and
12:55
through
12:55
citizen
12:55
science
12:56
is
12:56
that
12:56
people
12:56
are
12:56
finding
12:57
a
12:57
lot
12:57
of
12:57
relief
12:58
from
12:58
small
12:59
doses
12:59
of
12:59
psilocybin
13:02
in
13:02
everything
13:02
from
13:03
anxiety,
13:04
overwhelm,
13:05
adhd.
13:07
We're
13:07
finding
13:08
addiction
13:10
and
13:11
just
13:12
toxic
13:12
or
13:12
bad
13:13
habits
13:13
that
13:13
you
13:13
want
13:14
to
13:15
release.
13:16
And
13:16
there's
13:17
something
13:17
about
13:18
the
13:18
way
13:19
psilocybin
13:20
works
13:20
in
13:20
our
13:20
brain
13:21
that
13:21
allows
13:21
us
13:21
to
13:21
kind
13:22
of
13:22
like
13:22
create
13:23
new
13:23
pathways
13:24
and
13:24
close
13:24
down
13:25
the
13:25
paths.
13:25
If
13:25
you
13:26
think
13:26
of
13:26
it
13:26
like
13:26
a
13:26
ski
13:26
slope,
13:27
like
13:27
this
13:28
slope
13:28
is
13:28
me
13:29
drinking
13:30
too
13:30
much
13:30
wine
13:30
every
13:31
night
13:31
and
13:31
I
13:31
really
13:31
want
13:31
to
13:32
stop
13:33
and
13:33
then
13:34
enter
13:35
microdosing
13:35
with
13:36
an
13:36
intentional
13:36
practice
13:37
and,
13:37
oh,
13:38
look,
13:38
I'm
13:38
making
13:38
a
13:38
new
13:38
slope
13:39
where
13:39
that
13:39
doesn't
13:39
happen
13:40
and
13:40
it's
13:40
not
13:40
as
13:40
hard.
13:42
So
13:42
that's
13:42
like
13:42
a
13:42
very
13:44
basic
13:45
explanation
13:46
of
13:46
it.
13:47
But
13:48
the
13:49
key
13:49
is
13:49
taking
13:50
a
13:50
really
13:51
small
13:51
dose,
13:52
usually
13:53
around
13:53
one
13:53
tenth
13:54
of
13:54
a
13:55
gram
13:55
or
13:55
what
13:55
a
13:56
large
13:56
dose
13:56
would
13:56
be.
13:57
So
13:58
typically
13:59
we
13:59
say
13:59
that
14:00
if
14:00
someone
14:00
wants
14:01
to
14:01
have
14:01
a
14:01
large
14:02
dose
14:02
experience,
14:02
or
14:03
when
14:03
you
14:03
start
14:03
seeing
14:03
visuals
14:04
and
14:04
stuff,
14:04
that
14:04
can
14:05
really
14:05
start
14:05
around
14:05
a
14:05
half
14:06
a
14:06
gram
14:07
or
14:07
a
14:07
gram
14:08
again,
14:09
depending
14:09
on
14:09
how
14:09
it
14:10
alchemizes
14:10
in
14:10
your
14:10
body
14:11
and
14:11
up
14:12
from
14:12
there,
14:12
you're
14:12
going
14:12
to
14:12
start
14:13
having
14:13
those,
14:13
like,
14:13
traditional
14:14
psychedelic
14:14
experiences.
14:15
So
14:16
we're
14:16
talking
14:16
about
14:17
a
14:17
microdose
14:18
is
14:18
anything
14:18
from
14:19
50
14:19
milligrams
14:20
to
14:21
maybe
14:21
200
14:22
milligrams.
14:22
So
14:23
a
14:23
really
14:23
tiny
14:24
amount
14:24
which
14:25
allows
14:25
you
14:25
to
14:26
drive
14:26
and
14:27
go
14:27
and
14:27
work
14:27
and
14:27
go
14:28
about
14:28
your
14:28
day.
14:29
And
14:29
you're
14:29
just,
14:30
you're
14:30
not
14:30
high
14:31
or
14:31
anything
14:31
like
14:31
that.
14:32
The
14:32
way
14:32
I
14:32
can
14:32
equate
14:33
it
14:33
and
14:33
sort
14:34
of
14:34
like
14:34
noticing
14:35
that
14:35
it's
14:35
in
14:35
your
14:35
body
14:36
is
14:36
how
14:36
we
14:36
feel.
14:37
Maybe
14:37
after
14:37
we
14:37
have
14:37
a
14:37
cup
14:37
of
14:38
coffee,
14:38
like,
14:38
it's
14:39
there,
14:40
but
14:41
it's
14:41
not,
14:41
it's
14:42
not
14:42
really
14:42
inhibiting
14:43
anything,
14:43
but
14:43
it
14:44
may
14:44
like,
14:44
lift
14:45
you
14:45
up
14:45
a
14:45
little
14:45
bit
14:45
more.
14:46
So.
14:46
Oh,
14:46
that's
14:47
fascinating.
14:47
So
14:47
if
14:47
you're
14:48
doing
14:48
these
14:48
smaller
14:49
doses,
14:49
it's
14:50
like
14:50
you
14:50
kind
14:50
of.
14:50
It's
14:50
like
14:50
a
14:51
tinge,
14:51
like
14:51
you
14:51
feel
14:52
the
14:53
tint
14:53
of
14:53
it,
14:53
but
14:54
it's
14:54
not
14:54
like
14:55
you're
14:55
feeling
14:56
incapacitated
14:57
in
14:57
any
14:57
way
14:58
or
14:58
like
14:58
that
14:58
you
14:58
can't
14:59
carry
14:59
on
14:59
with
14:59
your
14:59
daily
15:00
activities.
15:01
No,
15:01
no,
15:02
that's
15:02
not
15:02
what
15:02
we
15:03
want
15:03
at
15:03
all.
15:03
And
15:03
that's
15:03
why
15:03
I
15:04
think
15:04
microdosing
15:04
is
15:05
such
15:05
a
15:05
great
15:05
tool
15:06
for
15:06
mothers.
15:07
Because,
15:07
yeah,
15:08
you're
15:08
not
15:08
incapacitating.
15:09
You
15:09
absolutely
15:09
should
15:09
not
15:10
be.
15:10
And
15:11
you
15:11
know,
15:11
when
15:12
it
15:12
comes
15:12
to
15:12
microdosing,
15:13
more
15:13
is
15:13
not
15:13
necessarily
15:14
more.
15:14
You
15:15
want
15:15
to
15:15
keep
15:15
it
15:15
below
15:15
a
15:16
certain
15:16
dose
15:16
because
15:16
you
15:16
don't
15:17
want
15:17
to
15:17
lose
15:18
any
15:18
control.
15:20
And
15:21
yeah,
15:21
and
15:22
in
15:22
many
15:22
cases,
15:23
it
15:23
actually
15:24
helps
15:25
people
15:25
find
15:26
that
15:26
it
15:26
increases
15:26
better
15:27
focus,
15:27
better
15:27
Presence,
15:28
more
15:29
creativity.
15:31
So
15:31
it's
15:31
a
15:31
really
15:32
beautiful
15:32
ally
15:33
just
15:33
in
15:33
day
15:34
to
15:34
day
15:34
life.
15:34
And
15:35
then
15:35
if
15:35
you're
15:35
working
15:36
through
15:36
something
15:36
or
15:37
working
15:37
towards
15:38
something
15:38
even,
15:39
it's
15:39
a
15:39
really
15:39
great
15:39
ally
15:40
to
15:40
help
15:40
you
15:40
kind
15:41
of
15:41
release
15:41
whatever
15:42
it
15:42
is
15:42
you're
15:42
working
15:42
through.
15:43
Do
15:43
you
15:43
find
15:43
that
15:44
it
15:44
gives
15:44
you
15:44
more
15:44
focus
15:45
to
15:46
complete
15:46
tasks
15:47
or
15:47
to
15:47
complete
15:47
work
15:48
or
15:49
kind
15:49
of
15:49
just
15:49
keep
15:49
you
15:50
on
15:50
a
15:50
more
15:50
focused
15:51
path?
15:52
Yeah,
15:53
I
15:53
mean,
15:53
I
15:53
don't,
15:54
you
15:54
know,
15:54
I've
15:54
never
15:55
taken
15:55
Adderall,
15:55
so
15:56
I
15:56
don't
15:56
know
15:56
what
15:56
those
15:57
stimulant
15:57
medicines
15:58
are
15:58
like
15:58
in
15:59
my
15:59
body.
15:59
But
15:59
I
16:00
will
16:00
say
16:00
for
16:00
me,
16:02
that's
16:02
not
16:02
something
16:02
I
16:02
really.
16:03
Well,
16:03
I
16:04
guess
16:04
I
16:04
do
16:04
kind
16:04
of
16:04
struggle
16:04
with
16:05
focus,
16:05
but
16:05
it's
16:05
not
16:05
really
16:05
something
16:06
that
16:06
I
16:06
focus
16:06
or
16:07
struggle
16:07
with.
16:07
But
16:08
from
16:09
a
16:09
creative
16:10
standpoint,
16:11
as
16:11
a
16:11
writer
16:12
and
16:12
someone
16:13
who
16:13
does
16:13
a
16:13
lot
16:13
of
16:13
research
16:13
and
16:14
writes
16:14
courses
16:14
for
16:14
mums
16:15
and
16:15
mushrooms,
16:16
if
16:16
I'm
16:16
working
16:16
on
16:16
like
16:17
a
16:17
big
16:17
writing
16:17
project,
16:18
I
16:18
find
16:18
that
16:18
it
16:19
does
16:19
really
16:19
help
16:20
me
16:20
drop
16:20
in
16:21
and
16:21
keep
16:21
focused
16:21
on
16:22
writing,
16:23
mainly
16:24
because
16:24
it
16:25
sort
16:25
of
16:25
stops
16:26
the
16:26
self
16:27
censorship
16:28
and
16:29
the
16:29
words
16:29
just
16:30
kind
16:30
of
16:30
flow
16:30
out
16:30
a
16:30
little
16:31
bit
16:31
more.
16:31
So
16:31
I'm
16:31
just
16:31
more
16:32
in
16:32
that
16:32
creative
16:33
flow
16:33
process.
16:33
It's
16:34
easier
16:34
to
16:34
drop
16:34
into
16:34
that.
16:35
So
16:35
I
16:35
guess
16:36
in
16:36
that
16:36
way
16:36
I
16:37
do
16:37
find
16:37
focus
16:37
because
16:38
I
16:38
can
16:39
steer
16:39
away
16:39
from
16:40
all
16:40
the
16:40
distractions
16:41
that
16:41
we
16:41
have
16:41
in
16:42
2025
16:42
and
16:43
just
16:43
let
16:43
the
16:44
words
16:44
come
16:44
out
16:44
on
16:44
the
16:44
page,
16:45
which
16:45
is
16:45
so
16:45
liberating
16:46
to
16:46
not
16:46
have
16:46
those
16:47
intrusive
16:48
thoughts
16:48
saying,
16:48
oh,
16:49
no
16:49
one's
16:49
going
16:49
to
16:49
like
16:50
that,
16:50
or
16:50
don't
16:50
write
16:50
that,
16:50
that's
16:51
dumb.
16:51
Just
16:51
let's
16:52
get
16:52
it
16:52
out
16:52
and
16:52
then
16:52
refine
16:53
it
16:53
later,
16:53
which
16:53
is
16:53
like
16:54
really
16:55
freeing
16:55
feeling.
16:55
Yeah.
16:56
And
16:56
do
16:56
you
16:56
find
16:57
that
16:57
it
16:57
helps
16:57
with
16:57
your
16:57
relationships,
16:58
like
16:58
your
16:58
relationship
16:59
with
16:59
your
16:59
partner
17:00
or
17:00
your
17:00
relationship
17:01
with
17:01
your
17:01
kids?
17:02
Yeah,
17:03
I
17:04
think
17:05
in
17:06
that
17:06
I've.
17:07
So
17:08
first,
17:08
I
17:08
just
17:08
want
17:08
to
17:08
preface
17:09
that
17:09
I
17:09
really
17:09
think
17:10
microdosing
17:11
is
17:11
best
17:11
done
17:11
with
17:12
an
17:12
intentional
17:13
practice.
17:13
And
17:13
it's,
17:15
for
17:15
lack
17:15
of
17:15
a
17:15
better
17:16
word,
17:16
like
17:16
one
17:16
tool
17:17
in
17:17
your
17:17
toolkit.
17:18
Right.
17:18
So
17:19
just
17:20
treating
17:20
a
17:21
microdose
17:21
like
17:21
another
17:22
supplement,
17:22
I
17:23
don't
17:23
think
17:23
is
17:23
going
17:23
to
17:24
bring
17:25
the
17:25
desired
17:26
effects,
17:26
as
17:26
if
17:27
you
17:27
do
17:27
it
17:27
with
17:27
some
17:28
intention.
17:28
So
17:28
at
17:28
Moms
17:29
and
17:29
Mushrooms,
17:29
we
17:29
always
17:29
say,
17:30
like,
17:30
know
17:30
your
17:30
why,
17:31
know
17:31
why
17:32
you're
17:32
taking
17:32
this
17:32
and
17:33
educate
17:33
and
17:33
empower
17:33
yourself
17:34
to
17:34
understand
17:34
how
17:35
it's
17:35
working
17:35
in
17:35
your
17:35
body,
17:35
how
17:36
it
17:36
works
17:36
in
17:36
your
17:36
brain,
17:37
and
17:37
then
17:38
what
17:38
else
17:38
are
17:38
you
17:39
going
17:39
to
17:39
fold
17:39
in
17:40
to
17:41
understand
17:41
and
17:42
cultivate
17:42
your
17:42
intention?
17:43
So,
17:44
you
17:45
know,
17:45
one
17:45
of
17:45
my
17:46
lesser
17:47
great
17:47
qualities
17:48
is
17:48
my
17:48
reactivity
17:49
and
17:49
I
17:49
could
17:50
just
17:50
tend
17:50
to.
17:51
Yeah,
17:51
Be
17:52
pretty
17:52
reactive
17:52
and
17:53
not
17:53
really
17:54
mind
17:54
my
17:55
words.
17:55
And
17:55
what
17:56
I
17:56
found
17:57
with
17:57
microdosing
17:58
is
17:58
that
17:58
I
17:58
found
17:58
a
17:59
lot
17:59
more
17:59
space
17:59
between
18:00
my
18:00
words,
18:01
which
18:01
allowed
18:01
me
18:02
to
18:02
kind
18:02
of
18:02
zoom
18:03
out,
18:03
look
18:04
at
18:04
everything
18:04
forming
18:05
in
18:05
my
18:05
head,
18:06
and
18:07
then
18:07
be
18:07
like,
18:07
okay,
18:08
girl,
18:08
don't
18:08
say
18:09
that.
18:09
And
18:09
then
18:09
let
18:09
it
18:09
go
18:10
through
18:10
better.
18:11
Which
18:11
of
18:12
course
18:12
improves
18:13
relationships.
18:15
And
18:15
I
18:16
have
18:16
a
18:16
daughter,
18:16
she's
18:17
14.
18:18
So
18:18
I
18:18
would
18:19
say
18:19
for
18:19
as
18:20
far
18:20
as
18:20
a
18:20
parent,
18:21
I
18:21
think
18:21
one
18:21
of
18:21
the
18:22
beautiful
18:22
things
18:22
that
18:23
working
18:23
with
18:24
psychedelics
18:24
has
18:24
done,
18:25
and
18:25
this
18:25
is
18:25
both
18:25
in
18:25
the
18:26
micro
18:26
and
18:26
the
18:26
macro,
18:27
is
18:27
we
18:27
talk
18:28
a
18:28
lot
18:28
about
18:28
ego
18:29
dissolution.
18:29
When
18:30
you
18:30
take
18:30
psychedelics,
18:31
like,
18:31
it
18:31
dissolves
18:32
your
18:32
ego.
18:33
Well,
18:33
really
18:33
what
18:34
it
18:34
does
18:34
is
18:34
it
18:35
lowers
18:37
the
18:37
impact
18:37
of
18:37
your
18:38
default
18:38
mode
18:38
network.
18:39
And
18:39
that
18:39
is
18:39
kind
18:39
of
18:39
like
18:39
a
18:40
fancy
18:40
word
18:40
of
18:40
saying
18:40
your
18:41
ego.
18:41
It's
18:41
the
18:41
thing
18:41
that
18:42
keeps
18:42
you
18:42
safe,
18:43
the
18:43
thing
18:43
that
18:43
likes
18:45
repetitive,
18:46
like,
18:46
I
18:47
know
18:47
this
18:47
to
18:47
be
18:47
true,
18:48
right?
18:48
And
18:48
keeps
18:48
you
18:49
away
18:49
from
18:50
change
18:51
and
18:51
kind
18:51
of
18:51
hypervigilant.
18:53
And
18:54
when
18:54
that
18:55
ego
18:56
or
18:56
default
18:57
mode
18:57
network
18:57
quiets,
18:58
you
18:58
get
18:58
to
18:59
think
18:59
of
18:59
things
18:59
from
19:00
a
19:00
new
19:00
perspective
19:01
without
19:01
a
19:01
grip
19:02
on,
19:02
like
19:02
an
19:03
emotional
19:03
grip
19:03
of
19:03
what
19:03
the
19:04
emotional,
19:04
like,
19:04
the
19:04
outcome
19:05
is
19:05
going
19:05
to
19:05
be.
19:06
So
19:06
as
19:06
a
19:06
parent,
19:07
I
19:07
really
19:07
stopped
19:08
parenting
19:09
from
19:09
what
19:09
I
19:10
wanted.
19:10
And.
19:10
And
19:11
I
19:11
was
19:11
really
19:11
able
19:11
to
19:12
drop
19:12
in
19:12
and
19:12
listen
19:13
to
19:13
my
19:13
daughter
19:13
and
19:14
kind
19:14
of
19:14
make
19:14
decisions
19:15
based
19:15
on
19:15
what's
19:16
best
19:16
for
19:16
her
19:17
and
19:17
not
19:18
what
19:19
my
19:19
friends
19:19
are
19:19
going
19:19
to
19:19
think
19:19
about
19:20
it
19:20
or
19:20
what
19:20
my
19:20
family's
19:21
going
19:21
to
19:21
think
19:21
or,
19:22
you
19:22
know,
19:23
oh,
19:23
you
19:23
know,
19:24
this
19:24
isn't
19:24
going
19:24
to
19:24
present
19:25
well.
19:25
I'm
19:25
really
19:26
like,
19:26
well,
19:26
what's
19:26
best
19:26
for
19:27
my
19:27
kid?
19:27
And
19:27
that's
19:28
what
19:28
I
19:28
want.
19:28
And
19:29
my
19:29
ego
19:29
really
19:30
left
19:30
the
19:30
building,
19:30
and
19:30
that
19:31
was
19:31
really
19:31
beautiful.
19:32
Oh,
19:32
that's
19:32
amazing.
19:34
You
19:34
know,
19:34
you
19:34
have
19:35
a
19:35
teenage
19:35
daughter
19:36
and
19:36
teenagers
19:37
like
19:37
to,
19:38
you
19:38
know,
19:38
come
19:38
into
19:38
things
19:39
and
19:39
experiments,
19:40
particularly
19:40
with
19:40
alcohol
19:41
and
19:41
all
19:41
the
19:41
things.
19:42
What
19:42
would
19:43
you
19:43
say
19:43
to
19:43
her
19:43
if
19:43
she
19:44
said,
19:44
mom,
19:44
I
19:44
want
19:44
to
19:44
try
19:45
microdosing,
19:45
I
19:46
want
19:46
to
19:46
try
19:46
mushrooms?
19:48
Well,
19:48
I
19:49
would,
19:49
knowing
19:50
what
19:50
I
19:50
know
19:50
now.
19:51
And
19:51
this
19:51
is
19:51
not
19:52
how
19:52
I
19:52
was,
19:53
because
19:53
I
19:54
drank
19:54
a
19:54
lot
19:55
when
19:55
I
19:55
was
19:55
really
19:56
young.
19:56
You
19:57
know,
19:57
I
19:57
would
19:59
really
19:59
steer
19:59
any
20:00
teenager
20:00
away
20:00
from
20:01
drinking.
20:01
It's
20:01
just
20:02
not
20:02
good
20:02
for
20:02
you
20:02
and
20:03
your
20:03
brain.
20:03
We
20:04
know
20:04
that
20:04
the
20:04
brain
20:04
doesn't
20:05
really
20:05
finish
20:05
developing
20:06
until
20:06
around
20:06
25
20:07
years
20:07
old.
20:08
So
20:08
I
20:09
wouldn't
20:09
really
20:10
recommend
20:10
too
20:11
much
20:12
early
20:12
on
20:12
in
20:13
general.
20:14
But,
20:14
gosh,
20:15
if
20:15
it's
20:15
between
20:17
binge
20:17
drinking
20:18
a
20:18
bunch
20:18
of
20:18
Captain
20:18
Morgan's
20:19
at
20:19
a
20:19
party
20:19
and
20:20
taking
20:20
some
20:20
mushrooms,
20:21
like,
20:21
I
20:22
would
20:22
always
20:22
suggest
20:22
taking
20:23
the
20:23
mushrooms
20:24
comes
20:25
from
20:25
the
20:25
ground.
20:25
It's
20:26
natural.
20:27
It's
20:28
just.
20:28
It's
20:29
just,
20:29
you
20:29
know,
20:31
everything,
20:32
toxicity
20:32
levels
20:33
and
20:33
even
20:34
harm
20:34
to
20:34
others.
20:35
There's
20:35
no
20:35
comparison
20:36
between
20:36
mushrooms
20:37
and
20:37
alcohol.
20:37
It's
20:38
on
20:38
the
20:38
opposite
20:39
ends
20:39
of
20:39
the
20:39
spectrum.
20:39
Alcohol
20:40
being
20:40
the
20:40
most
20:40
toxic,
20:41
the
20:41
most
20:41
addictive,
20:42
causes
20:42
the
20:43
most
20:43
crime,
20:43
the
20:43
most
20:43
harm
20:44
to
20:44
others,
20:44
and
20:44
psilocybin
20:45
actually
20:45
causing
20:45
the
20:45
least.
20:48
So
20:48
really
20:48
what
20:48
we
20:48
do
20:49
is
20:49
just
20:49
try
20:49
to
20:49
educate
20:50
her
20:50
around
20:51
all
20:51
substances
20:52
and
20:52
the
20:52
why
20:52
around
20:53
it.
20:53
And
20:53
we're
20:53
not
20:53
teetotalers,
20:55
but
20:55
explaining
20:57
what
20:57
alcohol
20:57
is,
20:58
what
20:59
a
20:59
closer
20:59
is
21:00
versus
21:00
an
21:00
opener,
21:01
what
21:01
a
21:02
depressant
21:02
is
21:02
versus
21:03
a
21:03
stimulant.
21:04
And
21:05
she.
21:05
We're
21:05
very
21:06
open
21:06
and
21:06
talking
21:07
about
21:07
psychedelics,
21:08
and
21:09
hopefully
21:11
she'll,
21:11
you
21:11
know,
21:12
she'll
21:12
just
21:12
ask,
21:12
you
21:13
know,
21:13
or
21:13
be
21:14
curious.
21:14
But,
21:15
you
21:15
know,
21:15
honestly,
21:16
people
21:16
ask
21:16
me
21:16
this
21:17
all
21:17
the
21:17
time.
21:17
And
21:17
the
21:17
truth
21:18
is,
21:20
when
21:20
a
21:20
parent's
21:21
doing
21:21
something,
21:21
the
21:21
kid
21:22
does
21:22
not
21:22
think
21:22
it's
21:23
cool.
21:23
So
21:23
I'm
21:23
actually
21:24
not
21:24
worried
21:24
about
21:24
her
21:25
working
21:26
with
21:26
psilocybin
21:26
at
21:26
all.
21:27
She's
21:27
so
21:27
bored
21:27
with
21:28
me
21:28
talking,
21:29
she'll,
21:29
like,
21:29
never
21:30
do
21:30
it.
21:31
Totally.
21:31
I
21:31
know
21:32
my
21:32
daughter
21:32
wants
21:32
to
21:33
do
21:33
the
21:33
exact
21:34
opposite
21:34
of
21:34
whatever
21:35
I'm
21:35
doing
21:35
at
21:36
any
21:36
given
21:36
time,
21:36
you
21:37
know.
21:37
Oh,
21:37
totally.
21:38
So,
21:38
like,
21:39
it's
21:39
really
21:39
not
21:40
that
21:40
I'm
21:40
not
21:40
against
21:41
drugs
21:41
at
21:41
all,
21:41
clearly,
21:42
or,
21:42
you
21:42
know,
21:42
psychedelics,
21:43
but,
21:43
like,
21:44
if
21:44
you
21:44
wanted
21:44
a
21:44
good
21:45
way
21:45
to
21:45
prevent
21:45
your
21:46
children
21:46
from
21:46
doing
21:46
it,
21:46
just
21:47
do
21:47
it
21:47
yourself.
21:47
Right?
21:49
Good
21:49
point.
21:50
Good
21:50
point.
21:50
Yeah.
21:51
You
21:51
know,
21:51
I
21:52
love
21:52
that
21:52
you
21:52
brought
21:52
up
21:52
too
21:53
about.
21:53
About
21:54
alcohol,
21:54
because
21:54
it's
21:55
funny,
21:55
people
21:55
say,
21:55
you
21:56
know,
21:56
marijuana
21:57
is
21:57
the
21:57
gateway
21:57
drug.
21:58
I
21:58
think
21:58
it's
21:58
alcohol.
21:59
I
21:59
think
21:59
alcohol
22:00
is
22:00
the
22:00
gateway
22:00
drug
22:01
to
22:01
everything.
22:02
And
22:03
so
22:04
I'm
22:04
glad
22:04
you
22:05
brought.
22:05
Brought
22:05
that
22:06
point
22:06
up.
22:06
But,
22:07
you
22:07
know,
22:07
I
22:07
go
22:07
to
22:08
parties
22:08
now
22:08
with
22:08
other
22:09
moms,
22:09
and
22:10
I
22:10
will
22:10
say
22:11
that
22:11
mushrooms
22:12
are
22:13
like
22:13
the
22:13
hot
22:13
ticket.
22:14
I
22:14
mean,
22:14
everybody,
22:15
like
22:15
the
22:15
moms
22:15
are
22:16
gravitating
22:17
towards
22:17
the
22:18
mushrooms.
22:18
And,
22:19
you
22:19
know,
22:19
we
22:19
talk
22:20
about
22:20
it
22:20
and
22:20
it's
22:20
like,
22:21
you
22:21
know,
22:21
the
22:22
hangover
22:22
isn't
22:22
there
22:23
the
22:23
next
22:23
day.
22:23
Like
22:23
you
22:24
would
22:24
if
22:24
you
22:24
had
22:24
like,
22:24
three
22:25
or
22:25
four
22:25
cocktails.
22:26
And,
22:26
you
22:26
know,
22:26
you
22:27
sleep,
22:27
you
22:28
sleep
22:28
well.
22:28
And,
22:29
you
22:29
know,
22:29
there's
22:30
just
22:30
a
22:30
list
22:30
of
22:30
things
22:31
that,
22:32
when
22:32
I
22:32
talk
22:32
to
22:32
these
22:32
moms
22:33
that
22:33
they
22:33
say,
22:34
so
22:35
why
22:35
do
22:35
you
22:36
think
22:36
that
22:36
microdosing
22:38
mushrooms
22:38
resonate
22:39
so
22:39
much
22:40
with
22:40
moms,
22:41
particularly
22:41
at
22:41
this
22:42
stage
22:42
in
22:42
life?
22:43
Yeah,
22:44
I
22:44
mean,
22:44
I
22:44
think
22:45
all
22:45
the
22:45
things
22:45
you
22:45
said,
22:46
I
22:46
think
22:46
that.
22:49
I
22:49
think
22:50
this
22:50
is
22:50
going
22:50
to
22:50
be,
22:51
like,
22:52
maybe
22:52
sound
22:52
a
22:52
little
22:52
out
22:52
there,
22:53
but,
22:53
you
22:53
know,
22:53
spiritually
22:55
as
22:55
a
22:55
society,
22:56
I
22:56
think
22:56
we're
22:56
at
22:57
a
22:57
real
22:57
shifting
22:57
point
22:58
of
22:58
consciousness,
22:59
and
23:01
women
23:02
in
23:02
particular
23:03
are
23:03
really
23:03
starting
23:03
to
23:04
Understand
23:05
that
23:06
the
23:06
way
23:07
we've
23:07
been
23:07
doing
23:07
things
23:08
for
23:08
many
23:08
generations
23:09
isn't
23:10
necessarily
23:11
in
23:11
our
23:11
best
23:11
interests
23:12
and
23:13
it
23:13
doesn't
23:15
make
23:15
us
23:15
feel
23:15
whole.
23:16
And
23:17
as
23:17
a
23:17
society,
23:18
we've
23:18
always
23:18
been
23:19
okay
23:19
with
23:19
mothers
23:20
in
23:20
particular
23:21
like
23:21
having
23:22
mommy's
23:22
little
23:23
helper.
23:23
And
23:24
we've
23:24
always
23:25
been
23:25
okay
23:25
with
23:26
like
23:26
a
23:27
mom
23:27
who
23:27
kind
23:27
of,
23:28
who
23:28
takes
23:28
her
23:28
volume
23:29
or
23:29
has
23:30
a
23:30
martini
23:30
during
23:30
lunch
23:31
and
23:31
we
23:31
kind
23:31
of
23:31
pat
23:32
her
23:32
on
23:32
the
23:32
head
23:32
and
23:32
like,
23:32
okay,
23:33
that's
23:33
your
23:33
little
23:34
gift
23:34
for
23:34
this
23:35
being
23:35
really
23:35
hard.
23:35
But
23:36
nobody
23:36
really
23:36
gets
23:36
to
23:37
talk
23:37
about
23:37
actually
23:38
how
23:38
hard
23:38
it
23:38
is
23:39
to
23:39
be
23:39
a
23:39
parent,
23:40
the
23:40
pressures
23:41
that
23:41
it
23:41
is,
23:41
and
23:42
there's
23:42
no
23:42
outlet.
23:43
And
23:43
then
23:43
we
23:43
really
23:43
don't
23:44
like
23:45
emotional
23:45
women,
23:46
we
23:46
don't
23:47
like
23:47
to
23:47
see
23:47
that,
23:47
and
23:48
we
23:48
really
23:48
don't
23:48
like
23:49
to
23:49
see
23:49
mothers
23:49
say,
23:50
hey,
23:51
this
23:51
is
23:52
actually
23:52
really
23:53
hard
23:54
and
23:54
I
23:55
love
23:56
being
23:56
a
23:56
mother,
23:57
but
23:57
this
23:57
is
23:57
hard
23:57
and
23:58
I
23:58
need
23:58
help.
23:58
There's
23:59
nothing
23:59
in
23:59
our
23:59
framework
23:59
of
24:00
our
24:00
society
24:00
that's
24:00
really
24:01
set
24:01
up
24:01
to
24:01
support
24:01
that.
24:03
And
24:03
so
24:04
I
24:04
think
24:04
we're
24:04
at
24:04
this
24:05
moment
24:05
where
24:06
people
24:06
are
24:07
waking
24:07
up
24:07
to
24:08
being
24:09
really
24:09
tired
24:09
of
24:10
being
24:10
numbed
24:10
out.
24:10
We're
24:11
tired
24:11
of
24:11
the
24:11
pills,
24:12
we're
24:12
tired
24:13
of
24:13
the
24:13
booze,
24:14
we're
24:14
tired
24:14
of
24:14
the
24:14
hangovers.
24:16
And
24:16
we
24:16
have
24:17
something
24:17
in
24:17
our
24:17
hearts.
24:18
I
24:18
think
24:18
a
24:18
lot
24:18
of
24:18
women
24:19
are
24:19
just,
24:20
there's
24:20
something
24:20
in
24:20
our
24:20
hearts
24:20
that
24:21
is
24:21
saying
24:21
there's
24:22
something
24:22
more
24:23
and
24:23
I
24:23
want
24:23
to
24:23
feel
24:23
like
24:24
myself.
24:25
And
24:26
there's
24:27
just
24:27
something
24:27
about
24:28
mushrooms
24:28
that
24:29
even
24:29
just
24:29
the
24:30
idea
24:30
of
24:30
them,
24:31
the
24:31
energy
24:31
behind
24:32
them
24:32
really
24:32
resonates
24:33
with
24:33
that.
24:34
And
24:34
then
24:35
when
24:35
you
24:35
work
24:35
with
24:35
them
24:36
and
24:36
you
24:36
realize
24:36
that
24:37
they're
24:37
not
24:37
going
24:37
to
24:38
fry
24:38
your
24:38
brain
24:39
like
24:39
drugs,
24:40
that
24:40
they're
24:41
not
24:41
addictive,
24:41
they're
24:42
actually
24:42
anti
24:43
addictive.
24:43
It's
24:43
almost
24:44
impossible.
24:45
You'd
24:45
have
24:45
to
24:46
eat
24:46
hundreds
24:47
of
24:47
pounds
24:47
of
24:47
mushrooms
24:48
to
24:48
even
24:49
try
24:49
to
24:49
overdose.
24:50
And
24:50
nobody
24:50
really
24:50
thinks
24:51
you
24:51
can.
24:51
There's
24:52
only
24:52
three
24:53
semi
24:54
known
24:54
deaths
24:54
to
24:54
psilocybin
24:55
in
24:55
recorded
24:56
history.
24:57
And
24:57
those
24:57
two
24:58
of
24:58
those,
24:58
we
24:59
suspect
24:59
there
25:00
were
25:00
other
25:00
substances
25:01
involved.
25:01
So
25:02
yes,
25:02
you
25:02
can
25:02
jump
25:02
off
25:02
a
25:03
building
25:03
if
25:03
you're
25:03
on
25:03
drugs,
25:04
but
25:04
that's
25:04
with
25:04
anything.
25:06
You
25:06
just
25:06
can't.
25:07
The
25:07
fear
25:07
behind
25:08
it
25:08
has
25:08
limited
25:09
us
25:09
from
25:09
exploring
25:10
its
25:10
medicinal
25:11
properties.
25:12
And
25:12
I
25:12
just
25:12
think
25:12
we're
25:13
at
25:13
a
25:13
time
25:13
where
25:13
moms
25:13
are
25:14
just
25:14
like,
25:15
yeah,
25:15
no,
25:15
I
25:15
just
25:16
don't
25:16
like
25:16
drinking
25:16
that
25:16
much
25:17
wine
25:17
anymore.
25:18
Right.
25:19
And
25:19
I
25:20
think
25:20
it
25:20
just
25:20
comes
25:20
with,
25:21
we're
25:21
at
25:21
a
25:21
shift
25:21
where
25:22
people
25:22
are
25:22
wanting
25:22
to
25:22
feel
25:23
better,
25:23
like,
25:23
holy.
25:25
Well,
25:25
not
25:26
just
25:26
surface.
25:26
Well,
25:27
you
25:27
know,
25:27
it's
25:27
interesting
25:28
too
25:29
because,
25:29
you
25:29
know,
25:30
it's
25:30
been
25:30
so
25:30
widely
25:31
accepted
25:31
to
25:31
have,
25:31
you
25:31
know,
25:32
the
25:32
Two
25:32
martini
25:33
lunch
25:33
or.
25:33
Yeah,
25:34
you
25:34
know,
25:34
moms
25:35
getting
25:35
together
25:35
for
25:35
a
25:35
play
25:35
date
25:36
and
25:36
you
25:36
open
25:36
a
25:36
bottle
25:36
of
25:36
wine
25:37
and
25:37
like
25:37
have
25:38
that.
25:38
But
25:39
like
25:39
with
25:40
mushrooms
25:40
and
25:40
microdosing,
25:41
there's
25:41
still
25:42
such
25:42
a
25:42
stigma
25:43
attached
25:43
to
25:44
it.
25:44
So.
25:45
Yeah,
25:45
how
25:45
do
25:45
you
25:46
navigate
25:46
that,
25:47
you
25:47
know,
25:47
with
25:48
what
25:48
you're
25:48
doing
25:48
and
25:48
like,
25:49
how
25:49
do
25:49
you
25:49
try
25:49
to
25:50
break
25:50
that
25:50
for
25:51
people?
25:51
Yeah,
25:52
you
25:52
know,
25:53
I
25:53
was
25:53
obviously
25:54
very
25:54
nervous
25:55
and
25:55
scared
25:55
when
25:56
I
25:57
started
25:57
working
25:58
with
25:58
this
25:58
medicine
25:58
because
25:58
it
25:58
was
25:59
so
25:59
life
25:59
changing
25:59
and
25:59
transformative
26:00
to
26:00
me.
26:00
And
26:00
I'm
26:00
just
26:01
like,
26:01
well,
26:02
there
26:02
goes.
26:03
There
26:03
goes
26:04
the
26:04
family,
26:04
you
26:04
know,
26:04
like,
26:05
we're
26:06
going
26:06
to
26:06
be
26:06
outcasts.
26:08
And
26:08
there
26:08
was
26:08
some
26:08
shame
26:09
involved.
26:09
There
26:09
was.
26:10
And
26:10
there
26:10
was
26:10
still
26:10
fear
26:11
involved.
26:11
Like,
26:11
am
26:11
I
26:12
misunderstanding
26:13
this?
26:13
Like,
26:14
what
26:14
were
26:15
Reagan
26:15
and
26:15
co
26:16
write?
26:16
And
26:16
I'm
26:17
like
26:17
missing
26:17
something,
26:18
that
26:18
it's
26:18
gonna.
26:19
I'm
26:19
gonna
26:19
wake
26:19
up
26:19
one
26:19
day
26:20
and
26:20
then
26:20
be
26:20
a
26:20
vegetable.
26:21
But
26:22
over
26:22
time,
26:23
I
26:23
just
26:23
became
26:23
more
26:23
and
26:24
more
26:24
convinced.
26:25
It's
26:25
just,
26:25
that's.
26:26
That
26:26
is
26:26
the
26:26
science.
26:26
Like,
26:27
it
26:27
just
26:27
isn't
26:28
that
26:28
way.
26:29
And
26:29
I
26:29
was
26:29
seeing
26:29
such
26:30
profound
26:30
changes
26:31
in
26:31
my
26:31
life
26:31
that
26:32
when
26:32
I
26:32
started
26:32
to
26:32
talk
26:33
about
26:33
it,
26:34
the.
26:35
And
26:35
even
26:35
outside
26:36
of
26:36
my
26:36
fear,
26:36
what
26:37
actually
26:37
happened
26:37
was
26:37
the
26:38
opposite.
26:39
99%
26:40
of
26:40
people
26:40
in
26:41
my
26:41
life
26:41
leaned
26:41
in
26:42
and
26:42
were
26:42
curious
26:43
because
26:43
of
26:44
just
26:44
what
26:44
I
26:44
said.
26:45
When
26:46
I
26:46
talk
26:46
to
26:46
moms
26:46
about
26:47
it
26:47
or
26:47
they
26:47
say,
26:47
what
26:48
do
26:48
you
26:48
do?
26:48
Well,
26:48
I
26:49
have
26:49
an
26:49
organization
26:50
that
26:50
teaches
26:50
moms
26:51
how
26:51
to
26:51
microdose.
26:51
It's
26:52
this.
26:52
It's
26:52
like,
26:53
oh
26:53
my
26:53
gosh,
26:53
tell
26:54
me
26:54
more.
26:55
I've
26:55
tried
26:55
everything.
26:55
I'm
26:56
miserable,
26:56
my
26:56
husband's
26:57
miserable.
26:57
I'm
26:57
tired
26:58
of
26:58
these
26:58
pills.
26:59
What
26:59
is
27:00
it?
27:00
How
27:00
do
27:00
I
27:00
do
27:00
it?
27:01
I'm
27:01
open.
27:02
And
27:02
they're
27:02
really.
27:03
There
27:03
isn't
27:04
as
27:04
much
27:04
stigma
27:05
as
27:05
you
27:05
would
27:06
feel
27:06
think
27:06
when
27:06
you
27:07
just
27:07
speak
27:07
about
27:07
it
27:08
from
27:08
the
27:08
heart.
27:08
I
27:08
rarely,
27:09
rarely
27:09
get
27:10
any
27:10
hate
27:10
mail
27:11
or
27:12
trolls
27:12
on
27:12
our
27:13
social
27:13
media.
27:13
People
27:14
are
27:14
very
27:15
curious
27:16
and
27:16
I
27:16
think
27:17
mothers
27:17
just
27:18
want
27:18
permission
27:19
to
27:19
work
27:19
with
27:20
this
27:20
medicine.
27:20
And
27:21
moms
27:21
are
27:21
just.
27:22
We
27:22
can't
27:22
afford
27:23
not
27:23
to
27:23
be
27:23
cautious
27:24
or
27:24
mindful
27:24
of
27:24
what
27:25
we
27:25
do.
27:26
So
27:26
there's
27:26
already
27:27
going
27:27
to
27:27
be
27:27
a
27:27
level
27:27
of
27:28
respect,
27:28
I
27:28
think,
27:28
layered
27:29
into
27:30
psychedelic
27:30
use.
27:31
And
27:33
so
27:33
it's
27:34
not
27:34
so
27:34
much
27:34
about
27:35
me
27:36
changing
27:37
stigma.
27:38
It's
27:38
more
27:38
about
27:40
writing
27:41
the
27:41
misinformation
27:42
and
27:42
propaganda
27:43
campaign
27:43
that's
27:43
happened
27:43
in
27:43
our
27:44
country
27:44
for
27:44
50
27:44
years
27:45
and
27:45
explaining
27:46
how
27:47
it
27:47
really
27:47
is
27:48
versus
27:48
how
27:48
we've
27:49
been
27:49
told
27:49
and
27:50
then
27:50
showing
27:51
that
27:52
I'm
27:53
not
27:53
like
27:53
a
27:53
mom
27:54
with
27:54
bags
27:55
under
27:55
here
27:56
in
27:56
the
27:56
corner
27:56
of
27:56
her
27:57
laundry
27:57
room
27:57
with
27:57
a
27:57
needle
27:58
in
27:58
her
27:58
arm.
27:59
It's,
28:00
you
28:00
know,
28:00
that's
28:00
just
28:00
not
28:01
how
28:01
it
28:01
works.
28:02
So
28:02
that's
28:03
really,
28:03
that's
28:04
what
28:04
I
28:04
do.
28:05
So
28:05
what
28:06
about
28:06
for
28:06
the
28:06
women
28:07
in
28:07
perimenopause?
28:08
Some
28:08
women
28:09
are
28:09
in
28:09
menopause.
28:10
How
28:10
can
28:10
microdosing
28:11
help
28:12
them?
28:12
Will
28:13
it
28:13
help
28:13
them
28:13
to
28:13
alleviate
28:14
any
28:14
of
28:14
those
28:15
symptoms
28:15
like
28:15
the
28:16
brain
28:16
fog
28:16
and
28:17
the
28:17
anxiety
28:17
and
28:18
all
28:18
those
28:18
things
28:18
that
28:19
hijack
28:19
your
28:20
body?
28:20
Basically,
28:21
yeah,
28:22
yeah.
28:22
No,
28:23
thankfully
28:23
there's,
28:24
there's
28:24
studies
28:24
happening
28:25
around
28:25
this.
28:26
I
28:26
want
28:26
to
28:26
give
28:26
a
28:26
shout
28:27
out
28:27
to
28:27
the
28:27
amazing
28:28
women
28:28
at
28:28
historic
28:28
Stelica.
28:29
They're
28:29
leading
28:30
a
28:30
lot
28:30
of
28:30
really
28:30
great
28:32
research
28:32
around
28:32
psychedelics
28:33
and
28:33
women's
28:34
health
28:34
and
28:34
reproductive
28:35
health
28:35
and
28:36
specifically
28:36
out
28:37
of
28:37
London.
28:38
And
28:41
so
28:41
we're,
28:41
we're
28:41
learning
28:42
more.
28:43
And
28:44
there's
28:46
so
28:46
categorically,
28:47
it's
28:48
not
28:48
like
28:48
if
28:48
you
28:49
take,
28:49
if
28:49
you
28:49
start
28:50
microdosing,
28:52
perimenopause,
28:53
hormonal
28:54
symptoms
28:54
are
28:54
going
28:54
to
28:54
go
28:55
away.
28:55
However,
28:56
what
28:56
we're
28:56
finding
28:56
is
28:57
that
28:57
there's
28:57
a
28:57
lot
28:57
of
28:57
serotonin
28:58
and
28:58
things
28:58
happening
28:59
in
28:59
the
28:59
gut
29:01
that
29:01
we're
29:01
not
29:01
giving
29:02
enough
29:02
credit
29:02
to.
29:03
And
29:03
so
29:04
psilocybin
29:05
works
29:05
with
29:05
the
29:05
serotonin.
29:06
So
29:06
we're
29:06
trying
29:07
to
29:08
research
29:08
the
29:09
pathways
29:09
of
29:09
how
29:10
those
29:10
can
29:10
affect.
29:11
But
29:11
in
29:11
terms
29:12
of
29:12
things
29:12
like
29:13
anxiety,
29:14
brain
29:15
fog,
29:17
overwhelm
29:18
and
29:19
something
29:20
bigger
29:21
which
29:21
is
29:21
less
29:21
quantifiable,
29:22
which
29:22
is
29:22
just
29:22
like
29:23
grappling
29:23
with
29:23
the
29:24
change
29:24
that
29:24
you're
29:25
going
29:25
through.
29:25
Microdosing
29:26
can
29:26
be
29:26
incredibly
29:27
supportive,
29:28
but
29:28
again,
29:28
only
29:29
I
29:29
think
29:29
if
29:29
you're
29:29
really
29:30
clear
29:30
about
29:31
why.
29:32
And
29:32
a
29:33
lot
29:33
of
29:33
what
29:33
we
29:34
do
29:34
at
29:34
Moms
29:34
on
29:34
Mushrooms
29:35
is
29:35
try
29:35
to
29:35
help
29:36
moms
29:36
unlearn
29:37
what
29:37
it
29:37
means
29:37
to
29:37
like,
29:38
heal.
29:39
Because
29:39
we're
29:39
so
29:40
taught
29:40
that
29:42
if
29:42
you
29:43
just
29:43
take
29:43
this
29:43
pill,
29:44
everything
29:44
will
29:44
change.
29:45
We
29:45
want
29:45
something
29:45
quick.
29:46
Our
29:46
society
29:46
is
29:47
a
29:47
quick
29:47
magic
29:48
pill
29:48
mentality.
29:49
It's
29:50
just
29:50
not
29:50
how
29:50
psychedelics
29:51
work.
29:52
So
29:53
there's
29:53
some
29:53
patience
29:54
and
29:54
some
29:54
like,
29:55
effort
29:55
that
29:55
needs
29:55
to
29:56
go
29:56
into
29:56
working
29:56
with
29:57
it.
29:57
But
29:57
in
29:58
doing
29:58
that,
29:58
it
29:58
allows
29:58
you
29:59
to
29:59
peel
29:59
back
29:59
the
29:59
onion
30:00
layers
30:00
of
30:00
what
30:01
might
30:01
be
30:01
bothering
30:01
you
30:01
and
30:02
what
30:02
might
30:02
be
30:02
coming
30:02
to
30:02
the
30:03
surface
30:03
as
30:03
you
30:03
experience
30:04
those
30:04
perimenopausal
30:05
symptoms.
30:06
And
30:06
then
30:06
like
30:08
physiologically
30:10
pairing
30:10
a
30:11
microdose
30:11
with
30:11
like
30:12
lion's
30:12
mane
30:12
mushroom,
30:13
which
30:13
is
30:13
a
30:13
non
30:13
psychedelic
30:14
mushroom,
30:14
is
30:15
absolutely
30:16
beneficial
30:16
for
30:17
I
30:17
think
30:17
all
30:17
women
30:17
should
30:18
take
30:18
lion's
30:18
mane
30:18
every
30:19
day
30:19
for
30:19
the
30:20
rest
30:20
of
30:20
their
30:20
life.
30:21
I
30:21
went
30:21
through
30:21
early
30:22
menopause.
30:22
I
30:22
had
30:22
a
30:23
full
30:23
hysterectomy
30:23
at
30:24
41,
30:24
so
30:24
I
30:24
had
30:24
surgical
30:25
menopause
30:25
in
30:25
a
30:25
day.
30:26
I
30:26
went
30:26
into
30:26
menopause
30:28
and
30:29
it
30:29
was
30:29
incredibly
30:30
debilitating.
30:31
And
30:32
I
30:32
couldn't
30:33
think
30:33
for
30:33
like
30:34
a
30:34
year
30:35
until
30:35
I
30:35
started
30:37
lion's
30:37
mane
30:37
I
30:38
feel
30:38
like
30:38
I
30:38
got
30:38
my
30:38
brain
30:38
back.
30:39
So
30:39
there's
30:39
definitely,
30:39
like,
30:40
power
30:40
of
30:40
mushrooms
30:40
that
30:41
even
30:41
aren't
30:41
psychedelic
30:41
that
30:42
I
30:42
would
30:42
highly
30:42
recommend.
30:43
And
30:43
then
30:43
pairing
30:43
them
30:43
with
30:44
an
30:44
intentional
30:44
microdosing
30:45
practice.
30:45
Yeah.
30:46
Can
30:46
be
30:46
really
30:46
powerful.
30:47
Wow.
30:47
You
30:48
know,
30:48
even
30:48
going
30:48
through
30:48
surgical
30:49
menopause,
30:50
like,
30:50
you're
30:50
saying
30:50
you
30:51
were
30:51
still
30:51
feeling
30:51
the
30:51
symptoms
30:52
of
30:52
menopause.
30:53
Correct.
30:53
Like
30:53
you
30:54
still
30:54
had
30:55
anxiety,
30:56
brain
30:56
fog,
30:56
like
30:57
all
30:57
the
30:57
things
30:58
all
30:58
at
30:58
once?
30:59
Yeah,
30:59
I
30:59
mean,
30:59
I
30:59
had
30:59
stage
31:00
four
31:00
endometriosis,
31:01
so
31:01
I
31:01
was
31:01
probably
31:02
perimenopausal
31:03
in
31:03
my
31:03
30s.
31:05
And,
31:05
you
31:05
know,
31:06
talk
31:06
about
31:07
shame
31:07
feeling
31:07
like
31:08
that
31:08
when
31:08
you're
31:08
so
31:08
young.
31:09
And
31:10
then
31:10
it
31:10
just
31:10
got
31:10
My
31:11
endo
31:12
got
31:12
to
31:12
a
31:12
place
31:12
where
31:13
we
31:13
almost
31:13
had
31:14
to
31:14
have
31:14
essentially
31:14
what
31:14
was
31:14
an
31:15
emergency
31:15
surgery.
31:17
So
31:17
I
31:17
walked
31:18
in
31:19
with
31:19
hormones
31:20
and
31:20
walked
31:21
out
31:21
the
31:21
next
31:22
day
31:22
with
31:22
hot
31:23
flashes.
31:24
So
31:25
there
31:25
was
31:25
no
31:25
real
31:26
ramp
31:26
up.
31:26
And
31:27
then,
31:27
yeah,
31:27
I
31:27
had
31:27
everything.
31:28
I
31:28
had
31:28
the
31:28
hot
31:28
flashes,
31:29
I
31:29
had
31:29
the
31:29
night
31:29
sweats,
31:30
I
31:30
had
31:30
the
31:31
mood
31:31
swings,
31:31
I
31:32
had
31:32
the
31:32
weight
31:32
gain.
31:32
I
31:33
had
31:33
my
31:34
whole
31:34
physiological
31:35
body
31:35
changed
31:35
because
31:35
my
31:36
ovaries
31:36
were
31:36
removed.
31:38
So,
31:38
yeah,
31:39
it
31:39
was
31:39
a
31:39
big
31:39
deal.
31:39
Gosh,
31:40
I
31:40
can
31:40
only
31:40
imagine.
31:41
And
31:41
had
31:42
you
31:42
already
31:42
started
31:42
microdosing
31:43
at
31:43
that
31:43
point,
31:44
or
31:44
did
31:44
that
31:44
come
31:44
after?
31:45
Oh,
31:45
wow.
31:45
It
31:46
came
31:46
after.
31:46
And
31:47
my
31:47
functional
31:47
medicine
31:48
doctor
31:48
wisely
31:48
put
31:49
me
31:49
on
31:49
Wellbutrin,
31:49
which
31:50
is
31:50
an
31:50
SNRI
31:51
to
31:52
help
31:52
me
31:52
manage
31:52
that
31:53
swing,
31:53
like,
31:54
knowing
31:54
what
31:54
it
31:55
would
31:55
do
31:55
emotionally
31:56
to
31:56
my
31:56
psyche.
31:57
And
31:58
I'm
31:58
so
31:58
grateful
31:58
that
31:59
I
31:59
was
31:59
on
31:59
it
31:59
because
31:59
I
32:00
really
32:00
do
32:00
think
32:00
it
32:00
helped
32:01
me
32:01
navigate
32:02
this
32:02
incredibly
32:03
intense
32:03
transition.
32:05
But
32:05
like
32:05
most
32:05
people
32:06
who
32:06
take
32:07
an
32:07
SSRI
32:07
or
32:08
SSNRI
32:08
or
32:09
any
32:09
number
32:10
of,
32:10
you
32:10
know,
32:11
mental
32:11
health
32:12
prescriptions,
32:13
there's
32:13
no
32:13
out
32:14
clause,
32:15
and
32:15
I'd
32:15
never
32:15
taken
32:15
anything
32:16
like
32:16
that
32:16
before,
32:16
and
32:17
I
32:17
didn't
32:17
know
32:18
when
32:18
I
32:18
was
32:18
supposed
32:19
to
32:19
stop.
32:19
Am
32:20
I
32:20
taking
32:20
this
32:20
forever?
32:22
Who
32:22
am
32:22
I
32:22
without
32:23
this?
32:23
Am
32:23
I
32:23
just
32:23
going
32:23
to
32:24
go
32:24
batshit
32:25
crazy?
32:26
Who
32:26
is
32:26
she?
32:27
Is
32:27
this
32:28
keeping
32:28
me
32:28
sane?
32:29
What
32:29
is
32:29
on
32:29
the
32:29
other
32:30
side
32:30
of
32:30
that?
32:30
And
32:30
I
32:31
didn't
32:31
love
32:31
that
32:32
feeling
32:32
of
32:32
not
32:33
knowing
32:33
if
32:33
I
32:34
was
32:34
going
32:34
to
32:34
be
32:34
okay.
32:36
And
32:36
so
32:37
I
32:37
felt
32:37
like
32:37
microdosing
32:38
was
32:38
a
32:38
really
32:39
great
32:39
answer
32:41
to
32:41
something
32:41
that
32:41
was
32:41
more
32:42
natural.
32:43
Didn't
32:44
have
32:44
any
32:44
side
32:44
effects.
32:45
There's
32:46
no
32:46
titration.
32:47
You
32:47
know,
32:47
there's
32:47
no
32:47
ramping
32:48
down.
32:48
Like,
32:49
you
32:49
know,
32:49
the
32:49
world
32:50
doesn't
32:50
feel
32:50
like
32:50
it's
32:50
collapsing
32:51
like
32:51
you
32:51
do
32:52
when
32:52
you
32:52
go
32:52
off
32:52
Zoloft.
32:53
None
32:54
of
32:54
that
32:54
exists
32:55
with
32:55
microdosing.
32:56
And
32:56
so
32:57
it
32:57
seemed
32:58
like
32:58
a
32:58
really
32:58
beautiful
33:00
way
33:00
to
33:00
transition
33:01
out
33:01
of
33:01
that.
33:01
And
33:01
so
33:02
I.
33:02
I'm.
33:03
And
33:03
I'm
33:03
grateful
33:03
because
33:03
I
33:03
understand
33:04
what
33:04
it's
33:04
like
33:04
to
33:04
be
33:04
on
33:05
something
33:05
like
33:05
that.
33:05
And
33:05
I
33:06
also
33:06
understand
33:06
what
33:06
it's
33:06
like
33:07
to
33:07
microdose.
33:08
Women
33:08
in
33:08
midlife
33:09
want
33:09
results,
33:10
obviously,
33:11
but
33:11
they
33:11
also
33:11
want
33:12
to
33:12
be
33:12
safe.
33:13
So
33:13
what
33:13
would
33:14
you
33:14
say
33:14
to
33:14
somebody
33:15
who's
33:15
very
33:16
interested
33:16
in
33:16
microdosing
33:17
but
33:17
doesn't
33:18
really
33:18
know
33:18
where
33:18
to
33:18
start,
33:19
like
33:19
what
33:19
type
33:20
of
33:20
mushroom
33:20
or
33:21
the
33:21
dosage
33:22
or
33:22
kind
33:22
of
33:23
how
33:23
to
33:23
go
33:23
about
33:23
their
33:24
journey?
33:25
Yeah,
33:25
well,
33:25
that's
33:26
why
33:26
moms
33:26
on
33:26
mushrooms
33:27
exist.
33:27
I
33:27
think
33:27
that's
33:28
the.
33:28
That's
33:28
the
33:29
missing
33:29
piece
33:29
right
33:30
now
33:30
is
33:30
that
33:30
we
33:30
don't
33:31
know.
33:31
We
33:31
don't
33:31
know
33:31
what
33:31
we
33:32
don't
33:32
know.
33:33
And
33:33
so
33:33
I
33:34
always
33:34
say
33:34
to
33:34
anyone
33:36
who's
33:36
considering
33:36
it,
33:37
working
33:38
with
33:38
any
33:38
psychedelic
33:39
or
33:39
psilocybin
33:40
is,
33:40
you
33:41
know,
33:41
remain
33:41
curious
33:42
and
33:42
ask
33:42
questions
33:43
and
33:43
really
33:43
empower
33:44
yourself
33:44
with
33:44
knowledge.
33:44
Like,
33:45
you
33:45
made
33:45
it
33:45
this
33:46
far
33:46
without
33:47
microdosing.
33:48
You
33:48
can
33:48
wait
33:48
a
33:49
few
33:49
more
33:49
weeks
33:49
and
33:49
just
33:50
learn
33:50
about
33:50
it.
33:51
But
33:52
also,
33:52
there
33:53
are
33:53
amazing
33:53
resources
33:54
out
33:54
there,
33:54
and
33:55
I
33:55
really
33:55
would
33:55
encourage
33:56
people
33:57
to
33:59
resource
33:59
yourself
34:00
when
34:01
you
34:01
start
34:01
your
34:01
microdosing
34:02
practice.
34:02
I.
34:02
I
34:02
believe
34:03
that
34:03
this
34:03
medicine
34:04
really
34:04
wants
34:04
to
34:04
be
34:04
done
34:05
in
34:05
community.
34:05
It's
34:06
not
34:06
something
34:06
that
34:07
should
34:07
be
34:07
done
34:07
in
34:07
a
34:07
vacuum.
34:09
So
34:09
whether
34:09
you
34:10
link
34:10
up
34:11
with
34:11
a
34:11
coach
34:11
or
34:12
you
34:12
join,
34:12
you
34:13
know,
34:13
a
34:13
course
34:13
like
34:14
at
34:14
mom,
34:14
or
34:15
you
34:15
work
34:16
with
34:16
your
34:16
therapist
34:17
or
34:17
even
34:17
with
34:17
a
34:17
group
34:17
of
34:18
besties,
34:18
and
34:18
you
34:18
guys
34:19
are
34:19
kind
34:19
of
34:19
accountability
34:20
buddies,
34:21
talking
34:22
about
34:22
the
34:22
onion
34:22
layers
34:23
that
34:23
are
34:23
unpeeling
34:23
as
34:24
you
34:24
begin
34:25
to
34:25
work
34:25
more
34:26
consistently
34:26
with
34:26
this
34:26
medicine
34:27
and
34:27
hearing
34:28
other
34:28
people's.
34:30
Other
34:30
people's
34:31
experiences
34:32
is
34:32
just
34:32
a
34:32
great
34:32
way
34:33
to
34:33
learn
34:33
about
34:33
it.
34:34
And
34:35
I
34:35
think,
34:36
again,
34:36
we're
34:37
so
34:37
trained
34:37
to
34:38
just,
34:38
like,
34:39
take
34:39
a
34:39
pill
34:39
out
34:40
of
34:40
a
34:40
bottle
34:40
at
34:41
this
34:41
time
34:41
of
34:41
day,
34:42
you
34:42
know,
34:42
this
34:43
prescription,
34:43
and
34:43
it's
34:44
just
34:44
not
34:44
like
34:45
that.
34:45
And
34:46
so
34:47
doing,
34:48
you
34:48
know,
34:48
working
34:48
with
34:49
this
34:49
in
34:49
community,
34:49
I
34:49
think
34:50
is
34:50
really
34:50
important.
34:51
And
34:51
then
34:51
it
34:51
allows
34:52
you
34:52
to
34:52
learn
34:52
about
34:52
the
34:53
medicine
34:53
and
34:53
also,
34:53
like,
34:54
learn
34:54
about
34:54
your
34:54
body,
34:54
which
34:55
is,
34:55
you
34:55
know,
34:55
we
34:56
all
34:56
know
34:56
we
34:56
were
34:56
never
34:57
taught
34:57
anything
34:58
actually
34:58
valuable
34:59
for
34:59
our
35:00
health
35:00
in
35:00
school,
35:01
so
35:01
we
35:01
have
35:01
to
35:01
do
35:02
it
35:02
on
35:02
our
35:02
own.
35:02
So
35:03
let's
35:03
take
35:03
this
35:03
time
35:04
to
35:04
learn
35:04
about
35:04
how
35:04
the
35:05
brain
35:05
works,
35:05
and
35:05
let's
35:05
learn
35:06
about
35:06
serotonin
35:07
and
35:07
dopamine
35:07
and
35:08
how
35:08
they
35:08
affect.
35:08
And
35:09
like,
35:09
also
35:10
it's
35:10
a.
35:11
I
35:11
think
35:11
it's
35:11
also
35:11
a
35:12
holistic
35:12
thing.
35:12
I
35:13
mean,
35:13
it's
35:13
a
35:13
really
35:13
good
35:13
time
35:14
to
35:14
say
35:15
what
35:16
else
35:16
in
35:16
my
35:16
body
35:17
might
35:17
be
35:17
off
35:17
balance
35:18
because
35:19
we
35:19
have
35:20
this
35:20
quick
35:21
get
35:22
fix
35:22
mentality.
35:23
And
35:24
a
35:24
lot
35:24
of
35:24
times
35:25
people
35:25
will
35:25
start
35:25
microdosing
35:26
and
35:26
not
35:26
feel
35:27
anything
35:27
or
35:27
feel
35:27
any
35:28
different
35:28
after
35:29
a
35:29
few
35:29
days
35:29
or
35:30
even
35:30
A
35:30
week
35:32
or
35:32
they'll
35:33
take
35:33
it
35:33
and
35:33
they'll
35:33
feel
35:33
worse.
35:34
And
35:34
I
35:34
always
35:35
just
35:35
ask
35:35
like,
35:35
okay,
35:36
well,
35:36
tell
35:36
me
35:36
about
35:36
your
35:37
sleep.
35:37
Tell
35:37
me
35:37
about
35:37
your
35:37
water
35:38
intake.
35:39
How
35:39
much
35:40
coffee
35:40
did
35:40
you
35:40
drink
35:41
today?
35:41
Did
35:41
you
35:41
know
35:41
that
35:42
caffeine
35:42
exacerbates
35:43
can
35:44
exacerbate
35:44
the
35:44
effects
35:44
of
35:44
psilocybin?
35:45
And,
35:46
and
35:46
let's
35:46
not
35:47
blame
35:47
mushrooms
35:48
for
35:48
like
35:49
maybe
35:49
what
35:49
too
35:50
much
35:50
sugar
35:50
did
35:51
or
35:51
what
35:52
your
35:52
stress
35:52
did.
35:52
So
35:53
there's
35:53
a
35:53
lot
35:53
of
35:53
things
35:53
to
35:54
look
35:54
at.
35:54
And
35:54
again,
35:55
we're
35:55
loathe
35:55
to
35:57
look
35:57
at
35:57
all
35:57
the
35:58
pieces
35:58
together.
35:58
But
35:59
you
36:00
know,
36:00
if
36:00
there's
36:00
anything
36:00
about
36:01
psychedelics
36:01
and
36:01
we
36:01
talk
36:02
about
36:02
like
36:02
multidimensional
36:03
and
36:03
seeing
36:04
things
36:04
from
36:04
different
36:04
angles,
36:05
like
36:05
it
36:05
really
36:05
does
36:05
empower
36:06
you
36:06
to
36:06
do
36:06
that.
36:07
But
36:07
we
36:07
got
36:07
to
36:07
look
36:07
at
36:07
our
36:08
lives
36:08
like
36:08
that
36:08
too.
36:09
So
36:09
kind
36:10
of
36:10
an
36:10
obtuse
36:11
answer,
36:11
but
36:12
that's
36:12
what
36:12
I
36:12
would
36:12
say.
36:13
Nice
36:15
for
36:15
people
36:15
who
36:15
have
36:15
specific
36:16
ailments.
36:16
Maybe
36:17
it's
36:17
anxiety,
36:17
maybe
36:18
it's
36:18
sleep,
36:18
you
36:19
know,
36:19
all
36:19
different
36:19
things.
36:20
How
36:20
do
36:20
they
36:20
know
36:21
what
36:21
mushroom
36:22
is
36:22
the
36:22
best
36:22
for
36:22
them?
36:23
What
36:23
psychedelic
36:23
is
36:24
the
36:24
best
36:24
for
36:24
them?
36:24
Well,
36:25
mushroom
36:25
and
36:25
psychedelics
36:26
are
36:26
two
36:26
different
36:27
things.
36:27
You
36:28
know,
36:28
psychedelics
36:28
refers
36:29
to
36:29
like
36:29
an
36:29
entire
36:30
group
36:30
of
36:31
psychoactive
36:32
hallucinogenic
36:33
substances.
36:34
Whether
36:34
that's
36:34
ayahuasca,
36:36
whether
36:36
it's
36:37
peyote
36:37
or
36:37
huachuma.
36:39
Actually
36:39
what
36:39
you
36:39
must
36:40
not
36:40
really
36:40
consider
36:40
psychedelic.
36:41
So
36:41
there's
36:41
a
36:41
whole
36:42
thing.
36:44
But
36:44
from
36:45
a
36:45
strain
36:45
of
36:45
mushrooms,
36:46
it's
36:46
an
36:46
interesting
36:47
question.
36:50
I'm
36:51
torn
36:51
because
36:51
I
36:52
feel
36:52
like
36:52
when
36:52
you're
36:52
just
36:52
starting,
36:53
the
36:54
strain
36:54
doesn't
36:55
totally
36:56
matter.
36:58
And
36:58
we
36:58
can
36:58
get
36:58
really
36:59
hung
36:59
up
36:59
on
36:59
strains
37:00
when
37:00
it's
37:01
really
37:01
about
37:01
creating
37:02
a
37:02
relationship
37:02
with
37:02
the
37:03
medicine.
37:04
And
37:05
like
37:06
strains
37:06
do
37:07
have
37:07
different
37:07
effects
37:08
on
37:08
people.
37:09
So,
37:12
you
37:12
know,
37:12
that's,
37:12
I
37:12
think,
37:13
why
37:13
getting
37:14
into
37:14
like
37:15
learning
37:15
about
37:15
it
37:16
and
37:16
reading
37:16
about
37:17
it
37:17
and
37:17
having
37:17
a
37:17
coach
37:17
or
37:18
a
37:18
guide
37:18
like
37:18
kind
37:18
of
37:19
offer
37:19
what
37:19
they
37:19
think
37:19
is
37:20
good
37:20
is
37:21
helpful.
37:21
Like
37:21
for
37:21
example,
37:22
Golden
37:22
Teacher,
37:23
I
37:24
find
37:24
to
37:24
be
37:24
really
37:24
heart
37:25
centered
37:25
and
37:26
it's
37:26
really
37:26
good
37:26
for
37:26
like
37:27
meditation
37:27
days
37:27
and
37:28
days
37:28
when
37:28
I
37:28
want
37:28
to
37:28
work
37:29
through
37:29
some
37:29
big
37:29
emotions
37:31
versus
37:31
like
37:32
Z
37:32
strain.
37:32
That
37:33
can
37:33
be
37:33
very
37:33
activating.
37:34
It's
37:34
really
37:34
good
37:34
for
37:34
focus.
37:35
A
37:35
lot
37:35
of
37:35
people
37:36
with
37:36
ADHD
37:36
really
37:37
like
37:37
Z
37:37
strain.
37:38
So
37:39
there
37:39
are
37:39
nuances,
37:39
but
37:40
it's
37:40
more
37:40
kind
37:40
of
37:41
like
37:42
wine,
37:42
right?
37:43
Like
37:43
you
37:43
can
37:43
have
37:44
red
37:44
wine
37:45
or
37:45
you
37:45
can
37:45
have
37:45
a
37:46
really
37:46
good
37:46
Cabernet.
37:47
But
37:47
like,
37:48
generally
37:48
speaking
37:49
the
37:49
effects
37:49
are
37:49
the
37:50
same.
37:50
But
37:50
like
37:50
cabernet
37:51
versus
37:51
tequila
37:52
are
37:53
very
37:53
different.
37:54
So
37:55
there's
37:55
nuance
37:56
there.
37:56
Which
37:56
is
37:56
why
37:56
I
37:57
think
37:57
education
37:57
is
37:57
important.
37:58
But
38:00
in
38:00
terms
38:00
of
38:00
learning
38:01
about
38:01
strains,
38:02
I
38:02
Think,
38:03
you
38:03
know,
38:04
do
38:04
your
38:04
research
38:04
and
38:05
read
38:05
about
38:05
it
38:05
and
38:05
then
38:06
find
38:07
someone
38:07
who
38:07
can
38:07
guide
38:07
you
38:08
into
38:08
starting
38:08
with
38:09
something
38:09
that
38:09
is
38:10
good
38:11
for
38:11
you
38:11
for
38:11
what
38:11
you're
38:12
looking
38:12
for.
38:13
And
38:13
also,
38:13
you
38:13
know,
38:14
because
38:14
microdosing
38:15
is
38:15
so
38:16
all
38:16
over
38:16
the
38:16
place
38:17
now.
38:18
There's
38:18
so
38:18
many
38:19
companies
38:19
that
38:19
are,
38:20
you
38:20
know,
38:20
selling
38:20
mushrooms
38:21
and
38:21
microdosing.
38:22
But
38:23
how
38:23
can
38:24
we
38:24
tell
38:24
if
38:24
the
38:25
provider
38:26
is
38:26
legit
38:27
or
38:27
not?
38:28
Because
38:28
there
38:28
are
38:28
a
38:28
lot
38:28
of
38:28
fakes
38:29
out
38:29
there.
38:30
Yeah,
38:30
it's
38:31
a
38:31
big
38:31
issue.
38:32
And,
38:32
you
38:33
know,
38:33
it's
38:33
hard
38:33
for
38:33
me
38:33
to
38:34
talk
38:34
about
38:34
sourcing
38:34
because
38:34
from
38:35
a
38:35
federal.
38:35
It's
38:35
not
38:35
federally
38:36
legal.
38:36
And
38:36
so
38:37
it's
38:37
still
38:37
very
38:38
gray
38:38
area.
38:39
But
38:39
I
38:40
would
38:40
say,
38:40
like,
38:40
if.
38:43
Well,
38:43
if
38:44
you're
38:44
buying
38:44
like
38:45
a
38:45
microdosing
38:46
brand
38:47
and
38:47
it
38:47
feels
38:47
like
38:48
it's
38:48
packaged
38:49
and
38:49
it
38:49
looks
38:50
like
38:50
it's
38:50
legit,
38:51
you
38:51
know,
38:52
always
38:52
check
38:52
the
38:52
ingredients.
38:54
I
38:54
always
38:55
recommend
38:56
that
38:57
you
38:57
purchase
38:58
something
38:58
that
38:59
is
38:59
lab
38:59
tested,
39:00
because
39:00
lab
39:01
tests
39:01
will
39:01
check
39:02
for
39:02
E.
39:03
Coli
39:03
and
39:03
mold
39:04
and
39:04
things
39:05
that
39:05
can
39:05
make
39:05
you
39:06
kind
39:06
of
39:06
sick.
39:07
But
39:08
a
39:09
good
39:09
brand
39:09
or
39:10
company
39:10
will
39:10
also
39:11
test
39:11
for
39:11
potency.
39:12
And
39:12
they
39:12
will
39:12
measure
39:13
the
39:13
dose
39:13
based
39:13
on
39:14
the
39:14
amount
39:14
of
39:14
psilocin,
39:15
which
39:15
is
39:15
the
39:16
active
39:16
component
39:16
in
39:16
psilocybin.
39:17
They'll
39:18
measure
39:18
the
39:18
dose
39:18
based
39:19
on
39:19
that
39:19
versus
39:20
the
39:20
weight.
39:21
And
39:22
then
39:22
because
39:22
you
39:22
really
39:22
want
39:22
to
39:23
know
39:23
what's
39:23
in
39:23
a
39:24
capsule
39:24
and
39:24
if
39:24
it
39:24
doesn't
39:25
list
39:25
the
39:25
ingredients
39:28
or
39:28
if
39:28
there's
39:28
a
39:28
lot
39:29
of
39:29
other
39:29
things.
39:29
Like
39:29
now
39:30
everyone
39:30
loves
39:30
to,
39:30
like,
39:31
you
39:31
know,
39:31
biohack
39:32
a
39:32
microdosing
39:33
thing.
39:33
So
39:33
now
39:33
you
39:33
see,
39:34
like,
39:34
microdoses
39:35
with
39:35
like,
39:35
cacao
39:36
and
39:36
shishandra
39:37
berry
39:37
and
39:37
lion's
39:38
mane
39:38
and
39:38
fairy
39:39
dust.
39:39
And
39:39
like,
39:40
how
39:41
much
39:41
of
39:41
that,
39:42
you
39:42
know,
39:42
it's
39:42
going
39:42
into
39:43
a
39:43
small
39:43
capsule.
39:44
So
39:44
how
39:44
much
39:44
of
39:44
that
39:44
is
39:44
actually
39:45
going
39:45
to
39:45
be
39:45
effective
39:45
for
39:46
you?
39:46
How
39:46
much
39:47
of
39:47
it
39:47
is
39:47
a
39:47
gimmick?
39:48
And
39:48
then,
39:48
like,
39:48
where's
39:49
the
39:49
psilocybin
39:49
in
39:49
all
39:50
this?
39:50
Like,
39:50
how.
39:51
So
39:51
is
39:51
it
39:51
50
39:52
milligrams
39:52
of
39:53
all
39:53
of
39:53
that
39:53
together
39:54
or
39:54
is
39:55
it
39:55
50
39:55
milligrams
39:55
of
39:56
psilocybin
39:56
and
39:57
then
39:57
all
39:57
this
39:57
other
39:57
fancy
39:58
stuff.
39:58
So
39:58
I
39:59
always
40:00
suggest,
40:00
like,
40:01
just
40:01
buy
40:02
a
40:02
pure.
40:02
You
40:02
don't
40:03
need.
40:03
You
40:03
can
40:04
stack
40:04
that
40:04
other
40:04
stuff.
40:05
You
40:05
can
40:05
find
40:05
those
40:05
supplements.
40:06
You
40:07
don't
40:07
really
40:07
need
40:07
it.
40:07
Stick
40:08
with
40:08
like
40:08
a
40:08
pure
40:08
strain
40:11
that's
40:11
just
40:11
psilocybin.
40:12
See
40:13
if
40:13
it's
40:13
lab
40:13
tested
40:14
and
40:14
if
40:14
they're
40:15
not
40:15
forthcoming
40:15
with
40:16
their
40:16
ingredients.
40:18
You.
40:19
Know,
40:19
I.
40:20
I'd
40:20
go,
40:21
I'd
40:21
find
40:21
somewhere
40:21
else.
40:22
What
40:23
about
40:23
people
40:24
who
40:24
are
40:24
a
40:24
little
40:24
scared
40:24
because,
40:25
like,
40:25
it's
40:25
not
40:26
federally
40:26
legal.
40:27
So
40:28
how,
40:28
I
40:29
mean,
40:29
are
40:29
people
40:29
gonna
40:29
get
40:30
in
40:30
trouble?
40:30
If
40:30
they
40:30
try
40:31
to
40:31
get
40:31
it
40:31
or.
40:32
You
40:32
know,
40:32
I
40:33
can't
40:33
comment
40:33
on,
40:34
like,
40:35
legalities.
40:36
In
40:36
Colorado,
40:37
it's
40:37
decriminalized
40:38
and
40:39
now
40:39
legal.
40:39
Well,
40:40
it's
40:40
decriminalized
40:40
statewide,
40:41
which
40:41
means
40:41
in
40:41
Colorado,
40:42
we
40:42
can
40:42
gift
40:42
it,
40:43
we
40:43
can
40:43
gather
40:43
it,
40:43
and
40:43
we
40:43
can
40:44
can
40:44
grow
40:44
it.
40:46
Decriminalization
40:46
is
40:47
happening
40:47
in
40:47
a
40:47
bunch
40:47
of
40:48
states
40:48
and
40:48
a
40:48
bunch
40:49
of
40:49
cities.
40:50
Individual
40:50
cities
40:51
are
40:51
passing
40:51
decriminalization
40:52
laws,
40:52
which
40:52
allows
40:53
it
40:53
to
40:53
be
40:54
the
40:54
lowest
40:54
on
40:55
the
40:55
ledger
40:55
of,
40:56
like,
40:56
what
40:56
law
40:56
enforcement
40:57
is
40:57
worried
40:57
about,
40:58
which
40:58
is
40:58
great,
40:59
because
41:00
ain't
41:00
nobody
41:01
committing
41:01
major
41:01
crimes
41:01
with
41:02
psilocybin
41:02
in
41:03
their
41:03
back
41:03
pocket.
41:03
Like,
41:03
it's
41:03
just
41:04
not
41:04
happening.
41:04
There's
41:05
way
41:05
more
41:05
things
41:05
for
41:05
us
41:05
to
41:06
look
41:06
at.
41:07
So
41:07
if
41:07
you're
41:07
in
41:08
a
41:08
decriminalized
41:09
city
41:09
or
41:09
state,
41:10
you
41:11
know,
41:11
you
41:11
can
41:11
absolutely
41:12
just
41:12
grow
41:12
your
41:12
own.
41:13
And
41:13
the
41:13
beautiful
41:14
thing
41:14
about
41:14
mushrooms
41:16
is
41:16
that
41:16
they
41:16
grow
41:17
on
41:17
every
41:17
continent
41:18
on
41:18
the
41:19
planet
41:19
except
41:19
for
41:19
Antarctica.
41:21
Paul
41:21
Stamet
41:21
says
41:22
mushrooms
41:23
are
41:23
the
41:23
most
41:23
democratic
41:24
medicine.
41:24
There
41:25
really
41:25
isn't
41:25
any
41:26
cultural
41:26
barriers.
41:27
They're
41:28
here
41:28
for
41:28
everyone,
41:28
and
41:28
they're
41:29
really
41:29
easy
41:29
to
41:29
grow.
41:31
So
41:31
I
41:31
would
41:32
just
41:32
explore
41:33
growing
41:33
it.
41:33
That
41:33
way
41:33
you
41:34
have
41:34
full
41:34
control
41:34
over
41:35
all
41:35
of
41:36
it.
41:36
You
41:36
don't
41:36
have
41:36
to
41:37
worry
41:37
about
41:37
anything,
41:38
and
41:38
you
41:38
did
41:38
it
41:38
yourself.
41:41
Otherwise,
41:41
you
41:41
know,
41:41
it's.
41:42
It's
41:43
kind
41:43
of
41:43
up
41:43
in
41:43
the
41:43
air.
41:44
I
41:44
know
41:44
there's
41:44
kind
41:44
of
41:44
murmurings
41:45
at
41:45
the
41:45
federal
41:45
level
41:46
about
41:46
possibly
41:46
rescheduling
41:47
psilocybin
41:48
down
41:48
from
41:48
a
41:48
Schedule
41:48
1
41:49
drug
41:49
into
41:49
Schedule
41:50
2
41:50
or
41:50
3,
41:51
which
41:51
would
41:51
be
41:51
amazing.
41:52
So
41:52
it's
41:52
not
41:52
up
41:53
there
41:53
with
41:53
cocaine
41:53
and
41:54
heroin,
41:56
but
41:56
I
41:56
don't
41:57
know
41:57
when
41:57
that's
41:57
going
41:57
to
41:57
happen.
41:58
So
41:58
it's
41:58
kind
41:58
of
41:59
the
41:59
Wild
41:59
west
41:59
right
42:00
now.
42:00
And
42:01
those
42:01
of
42:01
us
42:01
who
42:01
really
42:02
want
42:02
to
42:02
preserve
42:02
the
42:02
integrity
42:03
and
42:03
ethics
42:03
of.
42:04
Of
42:05
the
42:05
psychedelic
42:06
space,
42:06
you
42:06
know,
42:06
try
42:07
to
42:07
work
42:07
within
42:07
the
42:07
letter
42:08
of
42:08
the
42:08
law.
42:08
And
42:08
that's
42:08
why
42:09
MOM
42:09
is
42:09
a
42:10
education
42:11
and
42:12
advocacy
42:12
platform.
42:14
And,
42:15
yeah,
42:16
I
42:16
think
42:16
we
42:17
just
42:17
need
42:17
more
42:17
people
42:18
speaking
42:18
up
42:18
about
42:18
it
42:19
so
42:19
we
42:19
could
42:19
at
42:19
least
42:19
get
42:20
things
42:20
decriminalized
42:21
and
42:21
not
42:21
worry
42:21
about
42:22
getting
42:22
in
42:22
trouble.
42:23
Absolutely.
42:24
And
42:24
how
42:25
much
42:25
of
42:25
the,
42:25
like,
42:26
movement
42:26
from
42:26
the
42:27
counterculture
42:27
to
42:28
mainstream
42:28
do
42:28
you
42:28
think
42:29
that
42:29
moms
42:30
are
42:30
responsible
42:30
for
42:31
with
42:31
microdosing
42:32
and
42:32
mushrooms
42:32
and
42:32
really
42:33
getting
42:33
it
42:34
out
42:34
there
42:34
because
42:34
it
42:34
is
42:35
so
42:35
widely
42:36
used
42:36
amongst
42:37
moms
42:37
now?
42:38
Yeah,
42:39
I
42:39
think.
42:40
Yeah,
42:40
that's
42:40
a
42:40
great
42:41
question.
42:41
I
42:41
think,
42:42
look,
42:43
when
42:44
moms
42:44
want
42:44
something
42:45
to
42:45
change,
42:46
shit
42:47
gets
42:47
changed,
42:47
right?
42:48
Like
42:48
when,
42:49
like,
42:49
that's
42:50
just
42:50
how
42:50
it
42:50
is
42:51
with
42:51
mothers.
42:52
And
42:53
so,
42:54
you
42:54
know,
42:54
you're
42:55
absolutely
42:56
not
42:56
the
42:56
first
42:56
person
42:56
that
42:57
tells
42:57
me.
42:57
I
42:57
go
42:57
to
42:57
these
42:57
parties
42:58
and
42:58
everyone's
42:58
microdosing
42:59
like,
42:59
we
42:59
know
42:59
that
42:59
it's
43:00
happening.
43:01
I
43:01
think
43:01
what
43:01
we're
43:02
not
43:02
seeing
43:02
is
43:02
like
43:03
moms
43:03
who
43:03
are
43:03
microsick,
43:04
who
43:04
are
43:04
like
43:04
advocating
43:05
for
43:05
it
43:06
or
43:07
really
43:07
understanding
43:08
even
43:09
the
43:09
real
43:10
beautiful
43:10
potentials
43:11
about
43:11
it,
43:11
working
43:11
with
43:12
it
43:12
intentionally
43:12
and
43:13
not
43:13
just
43:13
as
43:13
a
43:14
replacement
43:14
to
43:14
alcohol,
43:14
which
43:15
is
43:15
amazing.
43:16
But
43:16
my
43:17
vision
43:17
has
43:17
always
43:17
been,
43:18
if
43:18
a
43:18
million
43:18
moms
43:19
stand
43:19
behind
43:20
this
43:21
medicine,
43:23
we're
43:24
going
43:24
to
43:24
get
43:24
it
43:24
legal
43:25
and
43:25
there'll
43:26
probably
43:26
be
43:26
no
43:26
war.
43:27
But
43:27
we.
43:29
So
43:29
we
43:29
just
43:29
need
43:29
a
43:29
lot
43:30
more
43:30
voices.
43:30
But
43:30
I
43:31
think
43:31
when
43:31
mothers
43:32
start
43:32
working
43:33
with
43:33
it
43:33
in
43:33
the
43:33
day
43:34
to
43:34
day,
43:34
it
43:34
just
43:34
naturally
43:35
falls.
43:37
It
43:37
lessens
43:37
the
43:38
trigger
43:38
around
43:38
it
43:39
and
43:40
makes
43:40
it
43:41
like,
43:41
if
43:41
moms
43:41
are
43:42
doing
43:42
it,
43:43
how
43:44
bad
43:44
could
43:44
it
43:44
be?
43:45
So
43:46
TBD,
43:46
really.
43:47
But
43:48
where
43:48
I
43:48
sit,
43:48
I
43:49
think
43:49
we
43:49
have
43:50
a
43:51
really
43:51
beautiful
43:51
opportunity,
43:52
like
43:52
we
43:52
have
43:52
with
43:53
so
43:53
many
43:53
other
43:53
things,
43:55
where
43:55
moms
43:55
have
43:55
rallied
43:56
around
43:56
a
43:56
cause
43:56
to
43:56
really
43:57
make
43:57
a
43:57
difference
43:57
and
43:58
say,
43:58
like,
43:58
hey,
43:59
if
43:59
you
43:59
want
44:00
happy,
44:00
healthy
44:00
moms
44:01
raising
44:01
happy,
44:01
healthy
44:02
kids,
44:02
like,
44:02
this
44:02
is
44:03
a
44:03
pathway
44:04
to
44:04
really
44:04
help
44:04
and
44:05
let's,
44:06
you
44:06
know,
44:06
let's
44:06
change
44:06
the
44:07
laws.
44:07
Absolutely.
44:08
I
44:08
mean,
44:08
moms
44:09
should
44:09
be
44:09
ruling
44:09
the
44:10
world
44:10
right
44:10
now.
44:10
We'd
44:11
be
44:11
in
44:11
a
44:11
much
44:11
better
44:12
place.
44:14
Do
44:14
you
44:14
think
44:14
there's
44:15
anybody
44:15
that
44:15
should
44:16
not
44:16
be
44:16
doing
44:17
microdosing
44:17
and
44:18
mushrooms?
44:18
Okay,
44:19
who
44:19
is
44:19
that
44:19
person?
44:20
Yeah,
44:21
you
44:21
know,
44:21
so
44:22
no
44:22
one
44:22
thing
44:23
is
44:23
for
44:23
everyone,
44:24
period.
44:25
And
44:25
so.
44:26
But
44:27
psilocybin,
44:28
magic
44:29
mushrooms
44:29
in
44:29
particular,
44:30
you
44:30
really
44:30
want
44:31
to
44:31
be
44:31
careful
44:32
if
44:32
you
44:33
have
44:33
schizophrenia
44:34
or
44:35
even
44:35
like
44:36
first
44:36
level.
44:36
So
44:37
if
44:37
your
44:37
parents
44:37
were
44:37
schizophrenic,
44:40
it
44:40
can
44:40
trigger
44:41
things
44:41
in
44:41
your
44:41
mind
44:42
that
44:42
don't
44:42
necessarily
44:43
come
44:43
back.
44:44
Bipolar
44:45
one
44:45
disorder,
44:46
it's
44:47
the
44:47
same
44:48
thing.
44:50
And
44:50
then
44:50
also
44:50
if
44:51
you
44:51
have
44:51
a
44:51
long
44:51
history
44:52
of
44:52
suicidality,
44:55
you
44:55
know,
44:55
you
44:55
really
44:56
want
44:56
to
44:56
look
44:56
at
44:56
that
44:56
and
44:57
get
44:57
to
44:57
the
44:57
root.
44:57
And
44:58
there
44:58
might
44:58
be
44:58
better
44:59
pathways.
45:02
People
45:02
who
45:02
have
45:02
really
45:03
high
45:03
anxiety
45:04
might
45:04
find
45:05
that
45:05
microdosing
45:06
in
45:06
particular
45:07
increases
45:07
anxiety.
45:09
And
45:10
so
45:10
sometimes
45:10
people
45:10
really
45:11
don't
45:11
like
45:11
microdosing.
45:12
Sometimes
45:13
people
45:13
prefer
45:14
a
45:14
macrodose
45:14
or
45:15
a
45:15
large
45:15
dose
45:15
experience
45:16
and
45:16
you
45:16
get
45:16
that
45:17
full
45:17
therapeutic
45:18
effect.
45:18
I
45:19
would
45:19
say,
45:19
like
45:19
a
45:19
large
45:19
dose
45:20
ceremony
45:20
is
45:21
like
45:21
10
45:21
years
45:21
of
45:21
therapy
45:22
in
45:22
a
45:22
day
45:23
and
45:24
that
45:24
microdosing
45:25
is
45:25
just
45:25
a
45:25
little
45:25
too
45:26
intense
45:27
for
45:27
the
45:27
body.
45:28
So,
45:29
you
45:29
know,
45:29
again,
45:29
that's
45:30
why
45:30
you
45:30
really
45:30
want
45:30
to
45:30
work
45:31
with
45:31
someone
45:31
who's
45:32
had
45:32
experience,
45:33
who
45:33
works
45:34
with
45:34
this
45:34
medicine
45:34
themselves.
45:35
It
45:35
can
45:35
really
45:35
guide
45:36
you
45:36
so
45:36
you
45:37
find
45:37
that
45:37
sweet
45:37
spot
45:38
for
45:38
you.
45:38
But
45:38
definitely
45:39
schizophrenia,
45:40
bipolar
45:41
are
45:41
the
45:42
two
45:42
that
45:42
you
45:42
really
45:42
want
45:42
to
45:43
be
45:43
careful.
45:43
And
45:43
if
45:43
you're
45:44
taking
45:44
lithium,
45:45
you
45:45
absolutely.
45:45
It's
45:45
the
45:46
only
45:46
real
45:46
main
45:46
contraindication
45:49
of.
45:50
With
45:50
Psilocybin,
45:52
it
45:52
is
45:52
tolerated.
45:53
SSRIs
45:54
are
45:55
you
45:55
are
45:55
tolerated.
45:56
And
45:57
compare
45:57
well
45:58
with
45:58
psychedelics
45:59
or
45:59
with
45:59
psilocybin.
46:01
And
46:02
often
46:02
microdosing
46:04
while
46:04
titrating
46:05
down
46:05
from
46:05
an
46:05
SSRI
46:06
is
46:06
really
46:06
helpful.
46:06
It
46:07
helps
46:07
mitigate
46:07
some
46:08
of
46:08
those
46:08
negative
46:09
side
46:09
effects.
46:10
But
46:10
again,
46:10
all
46:10
of
46:11
those
46:11
things
46:11
you
46:11
want
46:11
to
46:11
do
46:11
with
46:12
a
46:12
pharmacologist
46:12
or
46:13
with
46:13
your
46:13
doctor,
46:13
and
46:13
there's
46:13
actually
46:14
really
46:14
beautiful
46:14
pharmacologists
46:15
out
46:15
there
46:15
that
46:16
specialize
46:16
in
46:16
that
46:16
intersection
46:17
of
46:17
pharmacy
46:18
and
46:18
psychedelics
46:19
that
46:19
can
46:19
really
46:19
advise
46:20
you.
46:20
So
46:20
just,
46:20
you
46:21
know,
46:21
do
46:22
your
46:22
research,
46:22
talk
46:23
to
46:23
experts
46:23
and
46:23
get
46:24
some
46:24
guidance.
46:24
You
46:25
should
46:25
be
46:25
okay.
46:26
And
46:26
without
46:26
naming
46:27
any
46:27
names,
46:28
what
46:28
is
46:29
the
46:29
most
46:29
unexpected
46:30
kind
46:30
of
46:30
jaw
46:31
dropping
46:31
transformation
46:32
that
46:32
you've
46:33
seen
46:33
in
46:33
your
46:33
community
46:34
since
46:34
starting
46:35
Moms
46:35
on
46:35
Mushrooms?
46:36
Oh,
46:37
gosh,
46:37
there's
46:38
so
46:38
many.
46:39
You
46:39
know,
46:39
I
46:39
think
46:40
they
46:40
may
46:41
not
46:41
seem
46:41
jaw
46:42
dropping,
46:42
but,
46:43
you
46:43
know,
46:43
hearing
46:44
a
46:44
mom
46:44
say,
46:45
I
46:46
started
46:46
playing
46:46
my
46:46
guitar
46:47
again.
46:47
I
46:47
haven't
46:48
played
46:48
in
46:48
20
46:48
years.
46:49
I'm
46:49
painting
46:50
again
46:51
because
46:51
I
46:51
love
46:51
it.
46:53
I
46:53
forgave
46:54
my
46:54
husband,
46:55
I
46:55
forgave
46:56
my
46:56
parents.
46:58
I
46:58
stopped
46:59
drinking.
47:00
I
47:00
got
47:01
myself
47:01
off
47:01
all
47:01
my
47:02
medications.
47:02
I
47:02
mean,
47:03
the
47:03
list
47:03
goes
47:03
on
47:03
and
47:04
on.
47:04
Or
47:04
just.
47:05
I
47:05
started
47:05
loving
47:06
being
47:06
a
47:06
mom,
47:07
you
47:08
know,
47:08
I,
47:08
I
47:08
can
47:08
play
47:09
with
47:09
my
47:09
kids
47:09
again
47:10
and
47:10
not
47:10
get
47:10
angry.
47:13
It's.
47:14
It
47:14
just
47:14
goes
47:15
on
47:15
and
47:15
on.
47:15
And
47:16
it's
47:16
those
47:16
little,
47:17
they're
47:17
not
47:17
little.
47:18
They
47:18
seem
47:19
little
47:21
things
47:21
that
47:22
just
47:22
change
47:22
the
47:23
trajectory
47:23
of
47:23
an
47:24
entire
47:24
family.
47:27
And
47:27
when
47:27
you,
47:28
you
47:28
know,
47:28
when
47:28
you're
47:28
happy
47:29
and
47:29
you're,
47:30
you're
47:30
happy
47:31
playing
47:31
with
47:31
your
47:31
kids
47:31
again
47:32
and
47:32
you're
47:32
not
47:33
feeling
47:33
pulled
47:34
in
47:34
a
47:34
million
47:34
directions
47:35
and
47:35
you
47:35
can
47:35
get
47:35
down
47:35
on
47:36
the
47:36
floor
47:36
and
47:36
play,
47:36
or
47:38
you
47:38
can
47:38
say,
47:38
you
47:38
know
47:38
what?
47:38
I'm
47:39
not
47:39
going
47:39
to
47:39
play
47:39
today.
47:39
And
47:40
you
47:40
don't
47:40
feel
47:40
horrible
47:41
for
47:41
saying
47:41
no.
47:41
And
47:42
you've
47:42
created
47:42
boundaries
47:43
as
47:43
a
47:43
parent
47:44
that
47:44
ripple
47:45
inside
47:45
your
47:45
family
47:46
unit
47:46
and
47:46
to
47:46
your
47:47
friends.
47:47
Like,
47:47
that
47:47
is
47:48
immeasurable.
47:49
And
47:49
we
47:50
see
47:50
it
47:50
all
47:50
the
47:50
time.
47:50
We
47:51
just
47:51
see
47:51
lights
47:52
come
47:52
on
47:52
in
47:52
people's
47:53
eyes
47:54
and,
47:54
and
47:54
we've
47:55
seen
47:55
women
47:56
who
47:56
have
47:57
changed
47:57
careers
47:57
and
47:58
gotten
47:58
into
47:58
the
47:58
psychedelic
47:59
space
47:59
after
48:00
working
48:00
with
48:00
it
48:00
themselves.
48:01
They're
48:01
like,
48:01
you
48:02
know,
48:02
forget
48:02
this
48:03
office
48:03
job.
48:03
Like,
48:03
I
48:03
wanted
48:04
to
48:04
help
48:04
people.
48:04
People
48:04
too.
48:05
And
48:05
we
48:05
see
48:05
it
48:05
all
48:05
the
48:06
time.
48:06
So
48:07
it's,
48:07
it's
48:08
varied
48:08
and,
48:09
and
48:09
it's
48:10
beautiful
48:10
and
48:10
it's
48:10
constant.
48:11
That's
48:12
amazing.
48:13
How
48:13
about
48:13
microdosing
48:14
and
48:14
HRTs?
48:15
Is
48:15
there
48:15
any
48:16
sort
48:16
of,
48:16
you
48:17
know,
48:17
contraindication
48:18
or
48:19
are
48:19
they
48:19
safe
48:19
to
48:19
go
48:19
hand
48:20
in
48:20
hand?
48:21
Yep,
48:21
they
48:22
can
48:22
totally
48:22
go
48:22
hand
48:23
in
48:23
hand
48:24
again.
48:24
I
48:25
think
48:25
you
48:25
want
48:25
to
48:25
really
48:25
look
48:26
at
48:26
all
48:26
Your
48:26
levels.
48:27
And
48:27
thank
48:27
goodness
48:27
there's
48:28
so
48:28
many
48:28
beautiful,
48:29
you
48:30
know,
48:30
third
48:30
party
48:30
companies
48:31
and
48:31
even
48:31
doctors
48:32
are
48:32
getting
48:32
smarter
48:32
about
48:33
HRT
48:33
and
48:33
looking
48:34
at
48:34
like,
48:34
okay,
48:34
well
48:35
what
48:35
else
48:35
do
48:35
we
48:35
need
48:35
to
48:36
bal
48:36
along
48:36
with
48:36
just
48:37
your
48:37
hormones
48:37
and
48:38
really
48:38
finding
48:38
that
48:39
sweet
48:39
spot.
48:40
So
48:40
yeah,
48:42
there's
48:43
no
48:43
contraindication
48:44
between
48:45
HRT
48:46
and
48:46
microdosing
48:47
at
48:47
all.
48:48
I
48:49
would
48:49
just
48:49
say
48:50
kind
48:50
of
48:51
a
48:51
good
48:51
rule
48:51
of
48:51
thumb
48:51
is
48:51
if
48:51
you're
48:52
in
48:52
major
48:53
distress
48:53
or
48:54
you're
48:54
going
48:54
through
48:54
a
48:54
massive
48:55
life
48:55
change,
48:56
or
48:57
maybe
48:57
the
48:57
HRT
48:58
is
48:58
really
48:59
messing
48:59
you
48:59
up
48:59
or
49:00
you're
49:00
really
49:00
trying
49:00
to
49:00
struggle
49:01
to
49:01
get
49:01
it
49:01
right,
49:02
it's
49:02
probably
49:03
not
49:03
a
49:03
good
49:03
time
49:03
to
49:04
introduce
49:04
microdosing
49:05
because
49:06
psilocybin
49:07
is
49:07
a
49:07
non
49:08
specific
49:08
amplifier.
49:09
So
49:09
it's
49:09
going
49:09
to
49:09
bring
49:10
up
49:10
the
49:10
things
49:11
that
49:11
are
49:11
kind
49:11
of
49:12
underneath
49:12
the
49:12
surface
49:13
and
49:13
there's
49:13
no
49:13
guarantee
49:14
that
49:14
it's
49:14
all
49:14
going
49:14
to
49:14
be
49:15
like
49:15
rainbows
49:15
and
49:15
unicorns.
49:16
What
49:16
it
49:17
might
49:17
bring
49:17
up
49:17
is
49:17
more
49:18
rage
49:18
or
49:18
more
49:19
grief
49:19
or
49:19
more
49:19
sadness.
49:20
But
49:20
what
49:20
the
49:20
beautiful
49:21
thing
49:21
is
49:21
that
49:21
it
49:21
gets
49:21
it
49:21
up
49:22
and
49:22
you
49:22
are
49:22
able
49:22
to
49:23
release
49:23
it.
49:24
But
49:24
you
49:24
don't
49:25
necessarily
49:25
want
49:25
all
49:26
that
49:26
rage
49:26
to
49:27
come
49:27
up
49:27
in
49:27
a
49:27
time
49:28
when
49:28
you're
49:28
also
49:28
not
49:28
feeling
49:29
great
49:29
or
49:30
you're
49:30
navigating
49:30
a
49:30
really
49:31
hard
49:31
time.
49:32
You
49:32
don't
49:32
want
49:32
it
49:33
to
49:33
amplify
49:33
that
49:34
while
49:34
you're
49:34
just
49:34
trying
49:34
to
49:35
get
49:35
through
49:35
the
49:35
day.
49:36
So
49:36
it's
49:36
not,
49:37
again,
49:37
it's
49:37
not
49:37
a
49:37
band
49:38
aid,
49:39
but
49:40
it.
49:40
But
49:41
if
49:41
you're
49:41
kind
49:41
of
49:41
on
49:41
the
49:41
other
49:42
side
49:42
of
49:42
say,
49:42
let's
49:43
use
49:43
grief
49:43
as
49:43
an
49:43
example,
49:44
and
49:44
you're
49:44
really
49:44
processing
49:45
the
49:45
death
49:45
of
49:46
a
49:46
loved
49:46
one,
49:46
say,
49:47
and
49:48
you've
49:48
gone
49:48
through
49:48
that
49:49
really
49:49
hard
49:50
initial
49:50
part
49:50
or
49:51
divorce,
49:51
and
49:51
you've
49:52
kind
49:52
of
49:52
on
49:52
the
49:52
other
49:52
side
49:52
of
49:53
the
49:53
divorce.
49:53
It
49:53
can
49:54
be
49:54
a
49:54
beautiful
49:54
thing
49:54
to
49:55
help
49:55
you
49:55
heal,
49:55
but
49:56
you
49:56
do
49:56
need
49:56
to
49:56
be
49:56
in
49:57
a
49:57
little
49:57
bit
49:57
more
49:57
of
49:57
a
49:58
place
49:58
of
49:58
stasis,
49:58
I
49:58
think,
49:59
for
49:59
it
49:59
to
49:59
be
49:59
effective.
50:00
And
50:00
what
50:00
about
50:01
for
50:01
the
50:01
women
50:01
out
50:01
there
50:02
who
50:02
have
50:02
lost
50:03
themselves,
50:03
who
50:04
have
50:04
just
50:04
felt,
50:05
you
50:05
know,
50:05
bewildered,
50:06
they're
50:06
overwhelmed
50:07
and
50:08
they're
50:08
just
50:08
trying
50:08
to
50:08
find
50:09
who
50:09
they
50:09
are,
50:10
you
50:10
know,
50:11
and
50:11
get
50:11
some
50:11
self
50:11
awareness
50:12
and
50:13
just
50:13
reconnect
50:14
with
50:14
themselves.
50:14
Do
50:15
you
50:15
think
50:15
that
50:15
microdosing
50:16
and
50:16
mushrooms
50:16
are
50:17
a
50:17
good
50:17
way
50:17
to
50:17
do
50:18
that?
50:19
Yeah.
50:20
Yeah.
50:20
But
50:22
I
50:22
think
50:22
you
50:22
have
50:22
to
50:22
be
50:22
willing
50:23
to
50:23
change.
50:24
And
50:24
a
50:24
really
50:25
good
50:25
question
50:25
to
50:25
ask
50:26
yourself
50:26
is,
50:26
am
50:26
I
50:27
actually
50:28
willing
50:28
to
50:29
change?
50:30
And
50:31
the
50:31
answer
50:31
may
50:32
surprise
50:32
you
50:33
because
50:33
change
50:34
involves
50:34
not
50:35
you,
50:35
but
50:35
it
50:35
might
50:36
involve
50:36
your
50:36
family
50:37
or
50:37
your
50:37
friends
50:38
and
50:38
your
50:38
lifestyle.
50:39
And
50:40
there
50:40
may
50:40
be
50:40
things
50:41
that
50:41
you're
50:41
holding
50:41
on
50:41
to
50:42
that
50:42
you
50:42
don't
50:43
like,
50:43
but
50:44
if
50:44
you
50:44
shift
50:44
them,
50:45
it
50:45
make,
50:46
you
50:46
know,
50:46
this
50:46
fear
50:47
of
50:47
the
50:47
unknown
50:47
is
50:48
very
50:48
real.
50:49
And
50:49
so
50:50
realizing
50:51
that
50:51
you've
50:51
lost
50:52
yourself
50:52
and
50:52
having
50:52
the
50:53
desire
50:53
to
50:53
come
50:53
back
50:54
home
50:54
to
50:54
yourself
50:54
and
50:55
like,
50:55
figure
50:55
out
50:55
who
50:55
you
50:55
are
50:56
and
50:56
feel
50:56
whole
50:57
and
50:57
feel
50:57
like,
50:59
you
50:59
know,
51:00
the
51:00
best
51:00
version
51:00
of
51:01
you
51:02
can
51:02
only
51:02
happen
51:02
if
51:03
you're
51:03
willing
51:03
to
51:03
change
51:04
and
51:04
if
51:04
you're
51:04
willing
51:05
to
51:05
do
51:05
the
51:05
hard
51:06
work
51:06
that
51:06
it
51:06
takes
51:07
to
51:07
again,
51:07
peel
51:08
back
51:08
those
51:08
onion
51:08
layers
51:09
and
51:10
you
51:10
know,
51:10
face
51:10
your
51:11
shadow
51:11
and
51:11
really
51:12
look
51:12
yourself
51:12
in
51:12
the
51:12
mirror
51:15
and
51:15
let
51:15
her
51:15
stare
51:15
back
51:16
at
51:16
you
51:16
for
51:17
a
51:17
minute
51:18
and
51:20
like
51:20
process
51:21
that,
51:21
then
51:22
I
51:22
think
51:22
microdosing
51:23
is
51:23
100%
51:24
a
51:24
beautiful
51:24
way
51:24
and
51:25
we
51:25
see
51:25
that
51:25
all
51:25
the
51:26
time.
51:27
But
51:27
you're
51:28
gonna
51:28
have
51:28
to
51:28
roll
51:28
up
51:28
your
51:28
sleeves
51:29
and
51:29
do
51:29
a
51:29
little
51:29
bit
51:29
of
51:29
work
51:30
for
51:30
sure.
51:31
Absolutely.
51:32
Do
51:32
you
51:32
think
51:32
in
51:32
the
51:32
next
51:33
five
51:33
years
51:33
we'll
51:34
see
51:34
microdosing
51:35
and
51:35
mushrooms
51:36
replace
51:36
wine
51:37
nights,
51:37
wellness
51:38
retreats,
51:39
things
51:39
like
51:39
that,
51:39
for
51:40
more
51:40
moms
51:40
and
51:40
women
51:41
in
51:41
midlife?
51:42
Yeah.
51:43
I
51:43
don't
51:43
know
51:44
about
51:44
fully
51:44
replacing,
51:44
but
51:45
we,
51:45
we
51:45
know
51:45
that
51:45
alcohol
51:46
consumption
51:46
in
51:46
this
51:46
country
51:47
is
51:47
at
51:47
an
51:47
all
51:47
time
51:47
low.
51:48
And
51:49
I
51:49
think
51:49
that's
51:49
not,
51:50
we
51:50
can't
51:50
thank
51:50
just
51:51
the
51:51
mushrooms
51:51
for
51:51
that,
51:51
but
51:51
I
51:52
think
51:52
it's
51:52
playing
51:52
a
51:52
big
51:52
part.
51:53
So
51:54
I
51:54
do
51:54
think
51:54
in,
51:54
in
51:55
five
51:55
years,
51:55
I
51:56
think,
51:57
I
51:57
think
51:57
we're
51:57
seeing
51:57
a
51:58
trend
51:58
of
51:58
people
51:58
just
51:58
wanting
51:59
to
51:59
feel
51:59
better.
51:59
Right.
52:00
And
52:00
we're,
52:00
we're
52:00
also
52:01
seeing
52:01
a
52:01
trend
52:01
of
52:01
women
52:02
wanting
52:02
like,
52:03
really
52:03
craving
52:04
community
52:05
and
52:05
connection.
52:07
That's
52:07
why
52:07
like,
52:07
you
52:08
know,
52:08
we're
52:08
seeing
52:09
50
52:09
year
52:09
old,
52:10
you
52:10
know,
52:10
50
52:10
year
52:11
birthday
52:11
parties
52:12
at
52:12
a
52:12
wellness
52:13
retreat
52:13
instead
52:13
of
52:13
some
52:14
massive
52:14
boozy
52:15
blowout.
52:15
You
52:15
know,
52:15
these
52:15
things
52:16
are
52:16
becoming
52:16
more
52:17
and
52:17
more
52:17
common
52:18
and,
52:20
and
52:20
then
52:20
it's
52:20
validating
52:21
itself
52:21
by
52:22
women
52:22
coming
52:22
back
52:22
transformed.
52:23
And
52:23
whether
52:23
that's
52:24
with
52:24
mushrooms
52:25
or
52:25
ayahuasca
52:26
or
52:26
yoga
52:27
or
52:27
breathwork
52:28
or
52:28
just
52:29
a
52:29
really
52:29
great
52:30
time
52:30
in
52:30
nature.
52:31
You
52:31
know,
52:32
there's
52:32
other
52:32
ways
52:33
to
52:33
do
52:33
things
52:33
besides
52:34
just
52:34
getting
52:34
blackout
52:35
drunk
52:35
or,
52:36
you
52:36
know,
52:36
kind
52:36
of
52:37
doing
52:37
it
52:37
the
52:37
old
52:38
way.
52:38
So
52:38
yeah,
52:39
I
52:39
think
52:39
we're
52:39
going
52:39
to
52:39
see,
52:40
you
52:40
know,
52:41
in
52:41
my
52:41
prayer
52:41
and
52:41
here
52:42
in
52:42
Colorado,
52:43
because
52:43
we
52:43
passed
52:44
Prop
52:44
122
52:45
and
52:45
now
52:45
there's
52:46
wellness
52:46
centers
52:46
happening
52:47
is
52:47
that
52:47
we
52:48
start
52:48
to
52:48
merge
52:49
and
52:49
understand
52:50
where,
52:50
you
52:51
know,
52:51
western
52:51
traditional
52:52
allopathic
52:52
medicine
52:53
is
52:53
helpful,
52:55
where
52:55
we
52:55
might
52:56
be
52:56
able
52:56
to
52:56
improve
52:57
and
52:57
embrace
52:57
psychedelics
52:58
for
52:58
mental
52:58
health
52:59
therapy,
52:59
where
52:59
maybe
53:00
traditional
53:00
psychology
53:00
is
53:01
missing
53:01
the
53:01
mark
53:01
and
53:02
expand
53:02
to
53:02
modalities
53:03
that
53:03
we
53:03
know
53:03
are
53:03
working
53:04
better.
53:05
And
53:05
that
53:05
goes,
53:06
that
53:06
helps
53:06
people
53:07
feel
53:08
better,
53:08
which
53:08
helps
53:09
them
53:09
want
53:09
to
53:09
feel
53:09
better.
53:10
And
53:10
yeah,
53:11
maybe,
53:12
maybe
53:13
everyone's
53:13
just
53:13
drinking
53:14
Pellegrino
53:14
at
53:15
parties
53:15
and
53:15
having
53:15
a
53:15
great
53:16
time.
53:16
Wouldn't
53:16
that
53:16
be
53:16
amazing?
53:17
I
53:17
know,
53:18
right?
53:18
Feeling
53:18
good
53:19
the
53:19
next
53:19
day,
53:19
waking
53:19
up
53:20
clear
53:20
and
53:21
not
53:21
hungover,
53:22
you
53:22
know?
53:23
Yeah,
53:23
it's
53:24
true.
53:24
If
53:25
a
53:25
woman
53:25
or
53:26
someone
53:26
is
53:26
listening
53:27
to
53:27
this
53:27
episode
53:27
right
53:28
now
53:28
and
53:29
at
53:29
the
53:29
end
53:29
they
53:29
say,
53:30
I
53:30
want
53:30
to
53:30
start
53:30
marching
53:30
microdosing.
53:31
I'm
53:31
really
53:32
interested
53:32
in
53:32
mushrooms.
53:33
I
53:33
want
53:33
to
53:33
get
53:33
into
53:34
it.
53:34
What
53:34
would
53:34
you
53:35
say
53:35
to
53:35
that
53:35
person?
53:36
What
53:36
are
53:36
the
53:36
next
53:36
steps?
53:37
Well,
53:37
if
53:38
you're
53:38
a
53:38
mom,
53:38
just
53:38
come
53:39
to
53:39
momsonmushrooms.com
53:40
and
53:40
we've
53:41
got
53:41
you
53:41
covered.
53:42
We
53:42
have
53:42
a
53:42
really
53:42
beautiful
53:43
self
53:43
paced
53:43
course
53:44
that's
53:44
called
53:44
microdosing
53:45
101
53:46
for
53:46
moms
53:46
that
53:46
really
53:47
answers
53:48
all
53:48
of
53:48
your
53:49
questions.
53:49
We'll
53:49
take
53:50
you
53:50
through
53:50
the
53:50
whole
53:51
get
53:51
started
53:51
process.
53:53
It's
53:56
80
53:56
bucks,
53:57
it's
53:57
affordable.
53:58
You
53:58
can
53:58
do
53:58
it
53:59
on
53:59
your
53:59
own
53:59
pace.
54:01
And
54:01
then
54:01
inside
54:01
that
54:02
we
54:02
have,
54:02
you
54:03
know,
54:03
coaching.
54:03
You
54:03
can
54:04
book
54:04
one
54:04
on
54:04
one
54:04
with
54:04
us.
54:05
We
54:05
have
54:05
two
54:05
communities,
54:07
private
54:07
communities
54:08
off
54:08
Facebook
54:08
that
54:09
are
54:09
a
54:09
wealth
54:09
of
54:10
information
54:10
and
54:10
resources
54:11
so
54:11
you
54:11
can
54:11
again
54:11
empower
54:12
yourself
54:12
with
54:12
knowledge.
54:14
And
54:14
so,
54:14
you
54:15
know,
54:15
that's,
54:15
this
54:15
is
54:15
why
54:15
we're
54:16
here
54:16
is
54:16
to
54:16
help
54:17
you
54:17
get
54:17
started.
54:18
And
54:19
if
54:19
it's
54:19
not
54:19
mom
54:19
again,
54:20
I
54:20
would
54:20
just
54:20
seek
54:20
out
54:21
like,
54:21
you
54:22
know,
54:22
look
54:22
for
54:22
coaches
54:23
or
54:24
different
54:24
women's
54:25
circles
54:25
who
54:26
are
54:26
doing
54:26
this
54:26
so
54:26
you
54:26
can
54:27
really
54:27
get
54:27
some
54:27
support.
54:27
I
54:28
really,
54:28
really
54:28
think
54:28
this
54:29
support
54:29
is
54:29
important
54:29
at
54:30
the
54:30
beginning.
54:31
One
54:32
of
54:32
the
54:32
beautiful
54:32
things
54:32
I
54:32
think
54:33
about
54:33
microdosing
54:34
that's
54:34
important
54:35
for
54:35
women
54:35
right
54:36
now
54:36
in
54:36
this
54:36
time
54:37
is
54:37
that
54:38
it
54:38
helps
54:38
us
54:38
create
54:38
a
54:39
relationship
54:39
with
54:39
the
54:39
medicine
54:40
and
54:40
gives
54:40
us
54:40
context
54:41
for
54:41
what
54:41
it
54:41
means
54:42
to
54:42
work
54:42
with
54:42
like
54:43
earth
54:43
medicine.
54:45
Because
54:45
we
54:45
don't
54:45
have
54:45
any
54:46
of
54:46
that.
54:46
We
54:46
don't
54:46
have
54:46
ceremony
54:47
in
54:47
our
54:47
lives.
54:47
Our
54:47
culture
54:48
doesn't
54:48
have
54:48
that.
54:49
So
54:49
let's
54:50
take
54:50
some
54:50
time
54:50
to
54:52
create
54:52
that
54:52
relationship
54:53
and
54:54
then
54:54
when
54:54
you
54:54
understand
54:55
it,
54:55
you
54:55
understand
54:56
how
54:56
it
54:56
feels
54:56
in
54:56
your
54:56
body.
54:56
Like
54:57
by
54:57
all
54:57
means,
54:57
go
54:58
and
54:58
explore
54:58
a
54:58
large
54:58
dose
54:59
experience
54:59
too.
54:59
But
55:00
you're
55:00
going
55:00
to
55:00
have,
55:00
you're
55:00
going
55:00
to
55:00
know
55:00
how
55:00
to
55:01
do
55:01
it
55:01
safely,
55:02
you're
55:02
going
55:02
to
55:02
know
55:02
some
55:03
terminology,
55:03
you're
55:04
going
55:04
to
55:04
know
55:04
what
55:04
to
55:04
look
55:04
for
55:05
and
55:05
you're
55:05
going
55:05
to
55:05
know
55:05
your
55:06
why.
55:07
And
55:07
that's
55:07
what
55:07
makes
55:08
this
55:08
medicine
55:08
really
55:08
powerful.
55:09
That's
55:09
amazing.
55:10
So
55:10
rolling
55:11
back
55:11
the
55:11
clock
55:11
a
55:12
little
55:12
bit,
55:12
I
55:12
want
55:12
to
55:13
know
55:13
what
55:14
advice
55:14
would
55:14
you
55:14
give
55:15
your
55:15
25
55:16
year
55:16
old
55:16
self?
55:17
Oh
55:18
girl,
55:18
do
55:18
the
55:18
drugs.
55:20
More
55:20
mushrooms,
55:22
take
55:22
the
55:22
mushrooms,
55:23
honey,
55:23
you're
55:23
going
55:23
to
55:23
be
55:24
okay.
55:24
That's
55:25
what
55:25
I
55:25
want,
55:26
right?
55:26
Stop
55:27
drinking
55:27
so
55:27
much
55:28
and
55:28
take
55:28
some
55:28
mushrooms.
55:30
You're
55:30
like,
55:30
trust
55:30
me,
55:31
the
55:31
hangover
55:31
will
55:32
be
55:32
much
55:32
better.
55:33
Oh,
55:33
girl.
55:34
And
55:34
like,
55:34
I.
55:34
I
55:35
can't.
55:35
Even
55:36
if
55:36
I
55:36
had
55:36
given
55:36
myself
55:37
the
55:37
opportunity
55:38
to
55:38
get
55:38
out
55:38
of
55:38
my
55:39
own
55:39
way,
55:39
to
55:40
let
55:40
my
55:40
ego
55:40
take
55:41
a
55:41
side
55:41
seat
55:42
and
55:43
really,
55:43
again,
55:43
look
55:44
at
55:44
myself
55:44
in
55:44
the
55:44
mirror
55:45
at
55:45
that
55:45
age,
55:46
and
55:46
I
55:47
was
55:47
very
55:47
driven
55:47
and
55:48
very
55:48
clear
55:48
about
55:48
what
55:49
I
55:49
wanted,
55:49
but,
55:49
like,
55:50
we
55:50
can
55:50
always
55:50
do
55:51
better.
55:52
I
55:52
probably
55:53
would
55:54
have
55:54
gotten
55:54
ahead
55:54
of
55:55
a
55:55
bunch
55:55
of
55:55
different
55:55
things
55:55
that
55:56
now
55:56
have
55:56
compounded
55:56
themselves
55:57
that
55:57
are
55:57
showing
55:57
up
55:58
in
55:58
my
55:58
40s
55:59
and
55:59
things
56:00
I
56:00
need
56:00
to
56:00
work
56:00
through.
56:01
And
56:02
I
56:02
think
56:03
just
56:04
having
56:04
the
56:04
emotional
56:05
intelligence
56:05
and
56:06
the
56:06
spiritual
56:06
freedom
56:07
that
56:07
psychedelics
56:08
offer,
56:09
I
56:09
can't
56:10
even
56:10
imagine
56:10
what
56:11
that
56:11
girl
56:11
would
56:11
look
56:11
like
56:12
now.
56:13
And
56:13
I
56:14
think
56:14
it's
56:14
so
56:14
cool
56:14
because
56:15
I
56:15
talk
56:15
to
56:15
so
56:16
many
56:16
young
56:16
people
56:17
who
56:17
are.
56:18
Who
56:18
are.
56:19
Who
56:19
are
56:19
microdosing,
56:20
who
56:20
are
56:20
working
56:21
really
56:21
intentionally
56:21
with
56:22
psychedelics.
56:22
I
56:22
talk
56:22
to
56:23
a
56:23
lot
56:23
of
56:23
young
56:24
moms
56:24
to
56:25
be.
56:25
That
56:25
are
56:25
doing
56:26
ceremonies
56:27
in
56:27
preparation
56:27
for
56:28
getting
56:28
pregnant,
56:28
getting
56:28
really
56:29
clear
56:29
about
56:29
why
56:29
they
56:29
get
56:30
pregnant.
56:30
And
56:30
I'm
56:30
like,
56:30
oh,
56:31
my
56:31
gosh,
56:31
this
56:31
is
56:31
amazing.
56:33
It
56:33
is
56:33
shifting.
56:34
It's
56:34
happening
56:35
in
56:35
real
56:35
time,
56:36
and
56:36
it's
56:36
beautiful
56:37
to
56:37
watch.
56:38
So
56:38
while
56:38
I'm
56:39
grateful
56:39
for
56:39
where
56:39
I
56:39
am
56:40
and
56:40
the
56:40
perspective
56:41
that
56:41
I
56:41
have,
56:43
yeah,
56:43
I'd
56:43
take
56:44
the
56:44
drugs
56:44
in
56:44
the
56:44
last
56:45
25.
56:47
Totally.
56:47
You're
56:48
like,
56:48
why
56:48
didn't
56:48
I
56:48
figure
56:49
this
56:49
out
56:49
sooner?
56:50
You
56:50
know?
56:50
Yeah,
56:51
well,
56:51
I
56:51
was
56:51
scared,
56:52
so.
56:52
Oh,
56:53
just
56:53
a
56:53
little
56:53
note
56:53
to
56:53
that.
56:54
Don't
56:54
take
56:54
mushrooms
56:55
if
56:55
you
56:55
are
56:56
breastfeeding
56:56
or
56:56
pregnant.
56:57
Correct.
56:59
I.
56:59
That's
57:00
a
57:00
personal
57:00
choice
57:01
there.
57:01
But,
57:01
you
57:02
know,
57:02
I
57:02
would
57:02
say
57:03
more
57:03
than
57:03
anything,
57:04
you
57:04
know,
57:05
don't
57:05
take
57:06
anything
57:06
that
57:07
alters
57:07
your
57:07
state
57:07
of
57:07
consciousness
57:08
and
57:08
get
57:08
behind
57:08
the
57:08
wheel
57:09
and,
57:10
you
57:10
know,
57:10
do
57:10
your
57:10
research.
57:11
Yeah,
57:11
absolutely.
57:13
How
57:13
are
57:13
you
57:13
living
57:14
iconically
57:15
right
57:15
now?
57:17
Well,
57:19
I
57:19
pretty
57:19
much
57:20
burned
57:21
down
57:21
my
57:21
old
57:21
life
57:22
and
57:22
really
57:23
stepped
57:23
into
57:23
the
57:24
truth
57:24
of
57:24
who
57:24
I
57:24
am.
57:25
I
57:25
try
57:26
to
57:26
wake
57:26
up
57:26
and
57:26
speak
57:26
my
57:27
truth
57:27
every
57:27
day
57:28
and
57:28
live
57:28
and
57:28
lead
57:29
with
57:29
love.
57:31
And
57:31
I
57:32
don't
57:32
know
57:32
that
57:32
that's
57:33
iconic,
57:34
but
57:34
it
57:34
feels
57:35
very
57:36
different
57:36
than,
57:38
you
57:38
know,
57:38
Tracy
57:38
2.0
57:39
is
57:39
very
57:39
different
57:39
than
57:40
pre
57:41
shrooms,
57:41
Tracy.
57:42
And.
57:44
And
57:44
I
57:44
try
57:44
to.
57:45
I
57:45
try
57:45
to
57:45
live
57:46
in
57:46
communion
57:46
with
57:46
God
57:47
and.
57:47
And
57:47
with
57:48
my.
57:48
With
57:48
my
57:49
values.
57:49
And
57:49
a
57:50
lot
57:50
of
57:50
that
57:50
comes
57:50
from
57:50
my
57:51
medicine
57:51
practice.
57:51
So,
57:52
you
57:52
know,
57:53
I'm
57:53
just
57:53
out
57:53
here
57:54
being
57:54
a
57:54
mushroom
57:55
mama
57:55
and
57:57
hope.
57:57
Hoping
57:58
to
57:58
find
57:58
more
57:58
of
57:58
me.
57:58
Yes,
57:59
of
57:59
course.
57:59
Well,
58:00
I
58:00
definitely
58:01
think
58:01
that
58:01
there
58:01
are.
58:02
I
58:02
mean,
58:02
it's.
58:03
Yeah,
58:03
it's.
58:04
You
58:04
know,
58:04
it's
58:05
only
58:05
a
58:05
matter
58:05
of
58:06
time
58:06
to
58:06
get
58:06
everyone
58:07
together,
58:07
you
58:07
know?
58:08
Totally.
58:09
Totally.
58:10
And
58:11
I
58:11
just
58:12
think
58:12
that
58:13
in
58:13
the
58:13
next
58:14
few
58:14
years,
58:14
I
58:14
mean,
58:14
we're
58:15
going
58:15
to
58:15
be,
58:15
obviously
58:15
seeing
58:16
so
58:16
much
58:16
of
58:16
this,
58:16
like
58:17
the
58:17
change
58:17
is
58:17
happening.
58:18
What
58:19
are
58:19
you
58:19
most
58:19
excited
58:20
about?
58:21
I'm
58:22
excited
58:22
about
58:23
decriminalization,
58:24
legalization.
58:25
I'm
58:25
excited
58:26
about.
58:28
I'm
58:28
excited
58:29
about
58:31
pairing
58:32
psychedelic
58:32
therapy
58:33
with
58:34
other
58:35
therapeutic
58:35
modalities.
58:38
I'm
58:38
excited
58:39
about
58:39
other
58:39
psychedelics
58:40
becoming
58:40
available
58:41
to
58:41
work
58:41
with
58:42
so
58:42
that
58:42
we
58:43
stop
58:43
having
58:44
this
58:44
one
58:44
size
58:44
fits
58:45
all
58:45
mentality
58:46
around
58:46
medicine
58:47
in
58:47
general.
58:48
I'm
58:49
excited
58:49
for
58:49
people
58:50
to
58:50
start
58:50
feeling
58:50
better
58:51
and
58:51
becoming
58:52
more
58:52
sovereign
58:53
and
58:53
taking
58:54
their
58:54
health
58:54
and
58:55
their
58:55
personal
58:55
life
58:55
choices
58:56
into
58:56
their
58:56
own
58:56
hands.
58:58
And
58:59
really.
59:00
And
59:00
I'm
59:00
excited
59:01
for.
59:02
I'm
59:02
excited
59:02
for
59:03
psychedelics
59:03
to
59:03
be
59:03
treated
59:04
with
59:04
respect
59:05
and
59:06
reverence
59:09
and
59:09
find
59:10
their
59:10
place
59:10
in
59:11
mainstream
59:11
society.
59:12
And
59:13
it
59:13
will
59:14
look
59:14
a
59:14
lot
59:14
of
59:14
different
59:15
ways
59:16
and
59:16
it
59:16
will
59:16
be
59:16
commodified.
59:17
And
59:18
my
59:18
prayer
59:19
is
59:19
that
59:19
we
59:20
can
59:20
stay
59:20
ahead
59:20
of
59:21
that
59:21
commodification
59:23
and
59:23
kind
59:23
of
59:23
learn
59:23
from
59:23
the
59:24
mistakes
59:24
that
59:24
we
59:24
made
59:24
with
59:25
the
59:25
cannabis
59:25
industry
59:26
and
59:27
keep
59:27
it
59:27
sacred,
59:28
educate
59:28
our
59:28
kids
59:29
about
59:29
it,
59:30
and
59:30
that
59:30
we,
59:31
as
59:32
a
59:32
collective,
59:32
start
59:33
to
59:33
heal
59:34
this
59:34
idea
59:35
that
59:35
we
59:35
have
59:35
to.
59:36
It's
59:37
like
59:37
everything
59:37
is
59:37
a
59:37
magic
59:38
bullet
59:38
and
59:38
more
59:39
is
59:39
more.
59:39
And
59:40
that
59:40
this
59:40
just
59:40
becomes
59:41
a
59:41
beautiful
59:42
foundation
59:42
of
59:43
a
59:43
really
59:43
beautiful
59:44
society,
59:45
much.
59:45
More
59:46
accepting
59:46
and
59:47
together
59:48
and
59:48
really
59:49
building
59:49
community.
59:50
You
59:50
know,
59:51
that's
59:51
an
59:52
interesting
59:52
point,
59:52
though,
59:52
that
59:52
you
59:53
make
59:53
about
59:53
the
59:53
cannabis
59:53
industry.
59:54
Do
59:54
you
59:54
see
59:54
the
59:55
microdosing
59:55
industry
59:56
kind
59:56
of
59:57
following
59:57
that
59:57
path
59:58
as
59:58
well?
59:59
I
59:59
don't,
59:59
I
1:00:00
don't.
1:00:00
I
1:00:00
think.
1:00:01
I
1:00:01
think
1:00:01
people,
1:00:02
you
1:00:02
know,
1:00:02
they're
1:00:02
always
1:00:02
going
1:00:02
to
1:00:03
be
1:00:03
outliers
1:00:03
and
1:00:03
people
1:00:04
want
1:00:04
to
1:00:04
get
1:00:04
rich
1:00:05
quick.
1:00:05
And,
1:00:05
you
1:00:05
know,
1:00:06
we
1:00:06
saw
1:00:06
the
1:00:07
like,
1:00:08
like,
1:00:08
you
1:00:08
can
1:00:09
buy
1:00:09
like,
1:00:09
chocolate
1:00:10
micro
1:00:10
bars
1:00:11
on
1:00:11
Etsy
1:00:11
and
1:00:11
like,
1:00:12
Alibaba.
1:00:12
Don't
1:00:13
do
1:00:13
that.
1:00:14
Do
1:00:14
not
1:00:14
do
1:00:14
that.
1:00:15
So
1:00:15
there's
1:00:16
always
1:00:16
gonna
1:00:16
be
1:00:16
bad
1:00:16
actors.
1:00:17
But
1:00:17
what
1:00:18
I'm
1:00:18
really
1:00:18
seeing
1:00:19
are
1:00:19
people
1:00:20
who
1:00:20
are
1:00:20
wanting
1:00:21
to
1:00:21
produce
1:00:22
and
1:00:22
cultivate
1:00:23
really
1:00:23
good,
1:00:24
clean
1:00:25
medicine
1:00:25
for
1:00:26
health
1:00:26
and
1:00:26
healing,
1:00:27
and
1:00:27
they
1:00:28
want
1:00:28
to
1:00:28
do
1:00:28
it
1:00:28
the
1:00:28
right
1:00:28
way.
1:00:29
Because
1:00:29
we
1:00:29
want
1:00:29
this
1:00:29
to
1:00:30
be.
1:00:30
We
1:00:30
want
1:00:30
this
1:00:31
to
1:00:31
stick.
1:00:33
So
1:00:33
people
1:00:33
are
1:00:33
really
1:00:34
treating
1:00:34
it
1:00:34
with
1:00:34
respect.
1:00:35
They're
1:00:35
applying
1:00:36
science
1:00:36
with,
1:00:37
you
1:00:37
know,
1:00:37
sacred
1:00:37
earth
1:00:38
wisdoms,
1:00:38
and
1:00:38
they're.
1:00:39
They're
1:00:39
really
1:00:39
trying
1:00:39
to
1:00:40
create
1:00:40
products
1:00:40
that
1:00:40
are
1:00:41
going
1:00:41
to
1:00:41
help
1:00:41
people.
1:00:44
And
1:00:44
there
1:00:45
will
1:00:45
always,
1:00:45
you
1:00:46
know,
1:00:46
Americans
1:00:46
make
1:00:47
everything
1:00:47
into
1:00:47
a
1:00:47
candy,
1:00:48
so
1:00:48
you're
1:00:48
always
1:00:48
going
1:00:49
to
1:00:49
have
1:00:49
a
1:00:49
sector
1:00:49
that's
1:00:50
going
1:00:50
to
1:00:50
have
1:00:50
gummies
1:00:51
and
1:00:51
lollipops
1:00:52
and,
1:00:52
you
1:00:53
know,
1:00:53
chocolate
1:00:53
and
1:00:53
God
1:00:54
knows
1:00:54
what
1:00:54
else.
1:00:55
But
1:00:55
I
1:00:55
hope
1:00:56
that
1:00:56
from
1:00:56
an
1:00:57
educational
1:00:57
standpoint
1:00:58
and
1:00:58
awareness
1:00:58
standpoint,
1:00:59
we
1:00:59
start
1:00:59
to
1:01:00
learn
1:01:00
about
1:01:02
what
1:01:02
to
1:01:02
look
1:01:03
for
1:01:03
and
1:01:03
that,
1:01:03
you
1:01:04
know,
1:01:04
if
1:01:04
that's
1:01:04
your
1:01:05
jam,
1:01:05
fine,
1:01:06
but
1:01:06
hopefully
1:01:06
we're
1:01:07
going
1:01:07
to
1:01:07
seek
1:01:07
a
1:01:07
higher,
1:01:08
better
1:01:08
quality
1:01:08
and
1:01:08
not.
1:01:09
And
1:01:09
I
1:01:09
think
1:01:09
with
1:01:10
cannabis,
1:01:10
what
1:01:10
happened
1:01:10
is
1:01:11
like,
1:01:11
we,
1:01:11
we,
1:01:11
we
1:01:12
pursued
1:01:12
the
1:01:12
more
1:01:12
is
1:01:13
more.
1:01:13
And
1:01:13
now,
1:01:13
especially
1:01:14
in
1:01:14
Colorado,
1:01:14
like,
1:01:15
people
1:01:16
can't
1:01:16
really
1:01:16
even
1:01:16
go
1:01:17
to
1:01:17
dispensaries
1:01:17
anymore
1:01:18
because
1:01:18
it's
1:01:18
so
1:01:19
strong
1:01:19
and
1:01:19
it's
1:01:20
gotten
1:01:20
so
1:01:20
kind
1:01:21
of
1:01:22
genetically
1:01:22
modified.
1:01:23
Like,
1:01:23
people
1:01:23
can't
1:01:23
work
1:01:23
with
1:01:24
it.
1:01:24
It's
1:01:24
too
1:01:24
much.
1:01:26
And
1:01:26
I
1:01:26
don't
1:01:26
want
1:01:26
to
1:01:26
see
1:01:26
that
1:01:27
happen.
1:01:27
Exactly.
1:01:28
Keep
1:01:28
it
1:01:28
as
1:01:28
true
1:01:29
to
1:01:29
form
1:01:29
as
1:01:29
possible
1:01:30
then.
1:01:30
Yeah,
1:01:31
yeah.
1:01:31
And
1:01:31
what's
1:01:32
next
1:01:32
for
1:01:32
Moms
1:01:32
on
1:01:32
Mushrooms?
1:01:33
I
1:01:33
know
1:01:34
you've
1:01:34
got
1:01:34
a
1:01:34
lot
1:01:34
going
1:01:34
on
1:01:35
with
1:01:35
your
1:01:35
kids
1:01:35
community,
1:01:36
so
1:01:36
what's
1:01:36
happening
1:01:37
next?
1:01:38
Yeah,
1:01:38
I
1:01:38
think
1:01:38
just
1:01:39
more
1:01:39
awareness,
1:01:39
more
1:01:40
advocacy,
1:01:40
and
1:01:41
really
1:01:41
just
1:01:41
trying
1:01:41
to
1:01:42
spread
1:01:42
the
1:01:42
word
1:01:42
about
1:01:43
this
1:01:43
medicine
1:01:43
and
1:01:44
support
1:01:44
moms.
1:01:44
Meet
1:01:45
moms
1:01:45
where
1:01:45
they're
1:01:45
at.
1:01:46
And
1:01:48
I'm
1:01:49
working
1:01:49
on
1:01:49
a
1:01:49
really
1:01:50
fun
1:01:50
thing
1:01:50
that
1:01:51
came
1:01:51
from
1:01:51
one
1:01:51
of
1:01:52
our
1:01:52
communities.
1:01:55
I'm
1:01:55
going
1:01:55
to
1:01:55
do
1:01:55
like
1:01:56
a
1:01:56
my
1:01:57
own
1:01:57
riff
1:01:57
on
1:01:57
the
1:01:57
75
1:01:58
hard,
1:01:59
but
1:01:59
it'll
1:01:59
be
1:01:59
about
1:02:00
nervous
1:02:00
system
1:02:00
regulation
1:02:01
and
1:02:03
nourishing
1:02:04
ourselves.
1:02:04
And
1:02:05
that's
1:02:06
a
1:02:06
really
1:02:06
big
1:02:06
part
1:02:06
of
1:02:07
what
1:02:07
mom
1:02:07
tries
1:02:07
to
1:02:07
do.
1:02:08
So
1:02:08
that'll
1:02:08
be
1:02:08
rolling
1:02:08
out
1:02:09
soon.
1:02:09
I
1:02:09
think
1:02:09
it'll
1:02:09
be
1:02:09
fun.
1:02:09
It'll
1:02:10
be
1:02:10
like,
1:02:10
inexpensive
1:02:10
and
1:02:11
a
1:02:11
cool
1:02:11
thing
1:02:11
that
1:02:11
you
1:02:11
can
1:02:12
explore.
1:02:12
And
1:02:12
if
1:02:12
you
1:02:12
want
1:02:13
to
1:02:13
fold
1:02:13
microdosing
1:02:13
into
1:02:14
it,
1:02:14
great.
1:02:15
And
1:02:15
if
1:02:15
not,
1:02:15
I
1:02:15
think
1:02:16
it's
1:02:16
a
1:02:16
good
1:02:16
pathway
1:02:17
to
1:02:17
understanding,
1:02:18
like
1:02:18
when
1:02:19
you're
1:02:19
going
1:02:19
to
1:02:19
be
1:02:19
ready
1:02:19
for
1:02:19
microdosing.
1:02:20
So
1:02:21
any
1:02:21
Moms
1:02:22
on
1:02:22
Mushrooms
1:02:22
retreats
1:02:23
in
1:02:23
the
1:02:23
future?
1:02:27
In
1:02:27
the
1:02:27
future,
1:02:28
not
1:02:28
in
1:02:28
the
1:02:28
immediate
1:02:29
future?
1:02:30
Yeah,
1:02:31
I
1:02:31
want
1:02:32
to
1:02:32
do
1:02:32
them
1:02:32
well,
1:02:33
and
1:02:33
I
1:02:33
think
1:02:33
we
1:02:34
need
1:02:34
a
1:02:34
little
1:02:34
bit
1:02:34
more
1:02:35
resources
1:02:36
to
1:02:36
get
1:02:37
it
1:02:37
the
1:02:37
way
1:02:37
I'd
1:02:37
want
1:02:38
it.
1:02:38
So
1:02:38
we'll
1:02:38
get
1:02:38
there.
1:02:39
Oh,
1:02:39
count
1:02:39
me
1:02:39
in.
1:02:40
Yeah,
1:02:41
yeah,
1:02:41
I
1:02:41
know.
1:02:42
Yeah,
1:02:42
sure.
1:02:42
For
1:02:43
those
1:02:43
who
1:02:43
want
1:02:43
to
1:02:43
connect
1:02:43
with
1:02:44
you,
1:02:44
tell
1:02:44
them
1:02:44
the
1:02:45
best
1:02:45
way
1:02:45
to
1:02:45
connect
1:02:45
with
1:02:46
you.
1:02:47
Yeah,
1:02:47
you
1:02:47
can
1:02:47
just
1:02:48
come
1:02:48
to
1:02:48
our
1:02:48
website,
1:02:48
momsonmushrooms.com
1:02:51
shoot
1:02:51
us
1:02:51
an
1:02:52
email.
1:02:52
From
1:02:52
there,
1:02:52
it's
1:02:53
just
1:02:53
us
1:02:53
moms
1:02:54
answering
1:02:54
it.
1:02:55
We're
1:02:55
not
1:02:55
a
1:02:55
big
1:02:55
conglomerate.
1:02:57
I'm
1:02:57
on
1:02:57
Instagram
1:02:58
at
1:02:58
Moms
1:02:58
on
1:02:58
Mushrooms
1:02:59
official,
1:03:00
and
1:03:00
that's
1:03:00
pretty
1:03:01
much
1:03:01
it.
1:03:01
Pretty
1:03:01
easy.
1:03:02
Very
1:03:02
nice.
1:03:02
Very
1:03:03
nice.
1:03:03
Well,
1:03:03
guys,
1:03:04
definitely
1:03:04
check
1:03:04
her
1:03:04
out
1:03:05
because
1:03:05
she's
1:03:05
got
1:03:05
so
1:03:05
much
1:03:06
great
1:03:06
information.
1:03:06
If
1:03:06
you're
1:03:07
curious
1:03:07
about
1:03:08
microdosing
1:03:08
mushrooms,
1:03:09
Tracy
1:03:10
knows
1:03:10
it
1:03:11
all,
1:03:11
so
1:03:11
definitely
1:03:12
check
1:03:12
out
1:03:12
her
1:03:12
website.
1:03:14
That
1:03:14
was
1:03:14
Tracy
1:03:15
T.
1:03:15
And
1:03:15
wow.
1:03:16
This
1:03:16
conversation
1:03:17
is
1:03:17
going
1:03:17
to
1:03:17
stay
1:03:17
with
1:03:18
me.
1:03:18
Whether
1:03:18
you're
1:03:19
curious,
1:03:19
cautious,
1:03:20
or
1:03:20
already
1:03:20
in
1:03:21
the
1:03:21
know.
1:03:21
Tracy
1:03:22
reminds
1:03:22
us
1:03:22
that
1:03:23
midlife
1:03:23
reinvention
1:03:24
sometimes
1:03:24
means
1:03:25
questioning
1:03:25
everything
1:03:26
we've
1:03:26
been
1:03:26
taught
1:03:27
and
1:03:27
finding
1:03:27
new
1:03:28
ways
1:03:28
to
1:03:28
come
1:03:28
home
1:03:28
to
1:03:29
ourselves.
1:03:30
If
1:03:30
this
1:03:30
episode
1:03:31
made
1:03:31
you
1:03:31
think,
1:03:31
share
1:03:32
it
1:03:32
with
1:03:32
a
1:03:32
friend
1:03:32
who
1:03:33
needs
1:03:33
to
1:03:33
hear
1:03:33
it.
1:03:33
And
1:03:34
if
1:03:34
you
1:03:34
want
1:03:34
more
1:03:34
conversations
1:03:35
like
1:03:35
this,
1:03:36
follow
1:03:36
the
1:03:37
iconic
1:03:37
midlife
1:03:38
Wherever
1:03:38
you
1:03:39
listen
1:03:39
to
1:03:39
podcasts
1:03:40
while
1:03:40
you're
1:03:40
there,
1:03:41
rate
1:03:41
us
1:03:42
and
1:03:42
leave
1:03:42
a
1:03:42
quick
1:03:42
review.
1:03:43
It's
1:03:43
the
1:03:44
easiest
1:03:44
way
1:03:44
to
1:03:44
support
1:03:45
the
1:03:45
show
1:03:45
and
1:03:46
help
1:03:46
us
1:03:46
reach
1:03:46
more
1:03:47
amazing
1:03:47
women
1:03:48
like
1:03:48
you.
1:03:49
Apple
1:03:49
Podcasts,
1:03:50
Spotify,
1:03:50
Amazon
1:03:51
Music,
1:03:51
or
1:03:52
wherever
1:03:52
you
1:03:52
get
1:03:53
your
1:03:53
podcasts,
1:03:54
we're
1:03:54
there.