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DIDDY JAIL-CELL RAID: DEMANDS "DIG UP DIRT" ON VICTIMS · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Did he jail cell raid?
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Speaker 1: Did he actually demand that others dig up dirt on victims?
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Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you for
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Speaker 1: being with us, breaking mused tonight. Did he win? What
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Speaker 1: can I do this anymore? Did Sean Puffy Combes aka
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Speaker 1: love ak A Diddy and on and on? Did he
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Speaker 1: actually order others demanding that they quote dig up dirt
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Speaker 1: on alleged victims? This while he is renewing another bill bid?
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Speaker 1: What judge and here's her right mind, will grant bond
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Speaker 1: bail on a guy that is demanding others dig up
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Speaker 1: dirt on alleged victims? Not only that, we are getting
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Speaker 1: reports that Shawncomb's aka Diddy would let's just say, ask
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Speaker 1: other inmates to use their phone cards, their phones, their
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Speaker 1: phone time to do three ways patch him into people
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Speaker 1: trying to dig up dirt on victims, possibly contacting alleged
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Speaker 1: victims himself, what with bribes or threats? Don't know that yet,
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Speaker 1: but I will find out. Listen to this.
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Speaker 2: Shawn Combs isn't just monitoring social media from behind bars,
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Speaker 2: according to federal prosecutors. Did he is relentlessly attempting to
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Speaker 2: blackmail potential witnesses. The Fed say Combs has been using
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Speaker 2: other MDC inmates' phone access codes to make surreptitious calls.
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Speaker 2: Combs then uses his sons to loop in a third
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Speaker 2: part or directly contacts unauthorized individuals. While the contents of
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Speaker 2: the calls have been redacted in court documents, prosecutors say
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Speaker 2: the conversations clearly outline Comb's in ten to silence witnesses.
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Speaker 1: Ooh, He's in a whole bunch of trouble now and more.
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Speaker 3: As part of the interagency contraband sweep at the MDC,
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Speaker 3: agents confiscate nineteen pages of notes from Shawn Combs's belongings
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Speaker 3: and turn them over to federal prosecutors. Among those notes
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Speaker 3: are inspirational quotes, reminders about family and financial matters that
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Speaker 3: need to be discussed, and a to do list. That
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Speaker 3: list includes a need to instruct a family member to
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Speaker 3: quote fine dirt on two potential victims and quote find
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Speaker 3: everything on another victim?
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Speaker 1: Okay now. According to the defense lawyers for Seawan Combs,
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Speaker 1: there were nineteen pages of quote heart felt notes to
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Speaker 1: his lawyers, heart felt notes like dig up on Cassie
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Speaker 1: notes like that, joining me an all star panel to
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Speaker 1: make sense of what we are learning right now, straight
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Speaker 1: out to Alex West, Entertainment reporter with the mirror Alex.
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Speaker 1: Of course, the defense lawyers are screaming to high Heaven
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Speaker 1: this raid was illegal, it was wrong. But can I
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Speaker 1: get to the dig up dirt on victim's part? Yeah.
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Speaker 4: So these notes range from the to do list and
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Speaker 4: then the inspirational quotes. However, they also are considered privileged.
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Speaker 4: At least that's what the defense is arguing. Prosecutors, though,
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Speaker 4: of course, are saying the contents are not privileged, especially
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Speaker 4: when we're saying things against rational quotes. But they are saying,
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Speaker 4: they're saying it was privileged. They're arguing that that is
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Speaker 4: not something that could have been taken by the prosecutors,
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Speaker 4: the investigators, and yet it was. And the judge is
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Speaker 4: now ruling that those nineteen pages have to be destroyed
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Speaker 4: and not using court.
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Speaker 1: Eric Fatus joining me, high profile lawyer, founding partner of
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Speaker 1: Varner Fattus, Elite Fattus inspirational quotes. Really, you know, it's
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Speaker 1: a dark scene there in the jail.
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Speaker 5: He's got to keep his spirits up and there's nothing
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Speaker 5: wrong with him having inspirational quotes. What he's saying is
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Speaker 5: wrong is the authorities coming in ransacking his entire cell,
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Speaker 5: taking privileged confidential communications between him and his attorney. That
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Speaker 5: relationship is sacriseang Nancy, as you know. And so he's
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Speaker 5: saying that, hey, that's an invasion here and the prosecution
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Speaker 5: should be punished.
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Speaker 1: You know, Eric Fattus, you do know that Sean Combs
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Speaker 1: has been denied bail twice so far or more because
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Speaker 1: of prior threats on alleged victims. So you're telling me
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Speaker 1: that his inspirational quotes, including demands that others dig dirt
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Speaker 1: on alleged victims, with his track record, I mean fattous
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Speaker 1: when you don't know a horse, look at his track record.
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Speaker 1: We know he has already allegedly threatened other witnesses, possibly
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Speaker 1: bribe them. And now he's making up to do lists
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Speaker 1: not just for his lawyers, but for family and friends
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Speaker 1: to quote get dirt on victims, to intimidate them. You
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Speaker 1: know how many rape victims I've had that don't want
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Speaker 1: to take the stand. They get on the stand and
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Speaker 1: completely shut down because of things just like Sean Combs
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Speaker 1: is doing right now. And you on me to come
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Speaker 1: down on the prosecutors. What world are you living in, man.
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Speaker 5: Well, the world that the judgeas in, because he's already
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Speaker 5: come down on the prosecution. All this look look, witness intimidation.
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Speaker 5: Witness tampering is completely impermissible. That being said, defense has
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Speaker 5: a right to investigate their case, to look into the
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Speaker 5: backgrounds of the accusers, see if they've made a false
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Speaker 5: statement and they filed a fully sh case. Have they
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Speaker 5: engaged in a crime of dishonesty? These are appropriate measures
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Speaker 5: for defense to take, so long as they are not
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Speaker 5: going past the line which separates investigation from witness tampering.
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Speaker 5: That of course is impremission.
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Speaker 1: Oh yes, that's impermissible. But let's put this three inches
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Speaker 1: up the prosecution's tailpipe because they happen to find the
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Speaker 1: list straight out to Doctor Dwayne Hendrix, former Associate warden
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Speaker 1: at this CI Correctional Institution, MDC and Brooklyn, former Senior warden,
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Speaker 1: US Department Justice, Federal Bureau of Prisons, founder of a
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Speaker 1: New Daylight Foundation, and author of Who Are You See It?
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Speaker 1: Say It? Seize It? Doctor Hendrix? Isn't it true that
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Speaker 1: in a CI correctional institute there are routine sweeps in
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Speaker 1: inmates sales, and you find all sorts of stuff. You
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Speaker 1: find shanks, you find Pruno, homemade wine, you find phones,
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Speaker 1: you find gus, you find drugs. Isn't that true, doctor Hendrix?
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Speaker 6: Yes, that is true. And staff are charged with doing
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Speaker 6: at least five to ten cell searches on a daily
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Speaker 6: basis per shift. And typically inmates will put their belong
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Speaker 6: their legal material. They will separate their legal material from
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Speaker 6: other material that they may have in their cell. Now
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Speaker 6: I can tell you where he's being housed right now.
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Speaker 6: It's in the dormitory style unit on the on the
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Speaker 6: East building of NBC Brooklyn, so he would it's bunk
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Speaker 6: style and it's open, so there are several bunks on
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Speaker 6: each in the area that he's standing. So typically those
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Speaker 6: inmates will keep their belongings under their mattress. And apparently
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Speaker 6: he's not separating his legal work from these other material,
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Speaker 6: these inspirational notes and different things of that nature.
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Speaker 1: Why do you keep saying inspirational notes, inspirational notes like
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Speaker 1: dig up dirt on the victims.
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Speaker 6: Well, that's where the that's where the issue comes in.
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Speaker 6: That's not legal work. If he's saying, you know, if
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Speaker 6: he's saying dig up dirt or call this person, call
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Speaker 6: that person. That is not legal work and I and
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Speaker 6: I would guarantee that they didn't go specifically to his
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Speaker 6: particular book to find anything unless there were some information
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Speaker 6: that came out of those these alleged three way calls
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Speaker 6: where he was using other inmates pack numbers, and basically
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Speaker 6: because this voice recognized so the inmates would happen. A
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Speaker 6: pack number is a number of signed to each inmate
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Speaker 6: when they come into the prison and when they set
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Speaker 6: it up, and it's voice recognized. So so if someone's there,
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Speaker 6: they'd have to dial a number and then they'd have
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Speaker 6: to say their name, and then it would link up
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Speaker 6: with that pack number that's assigned to that person. Then
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Speaker 6: they would call a contact that's on their approved list,
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Speaker 6: and then once that person got on the phone with them,
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Speaker 6: then they would ask the individual on the line to say, hey,
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Speaker 6: now doubt this number for make a freeway call with
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Speaker 6: this number, and I will hand the phone over to
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Speaker 6: whoever's trying to make the illegal three way call. And
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Speaker 6: apparently he did that.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Hendrix, let me ask you a question. Isn't it
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Speaker 1: a violation a jail policy to use other people's packs.
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Speaker 6: Yes, and he probably lost his phone privileges once they
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Speaker 6: found out that he was using these other inmates pack
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Speaker 6: numbers to make these three way calls. And obviously he
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Speaker 6: needs to understand they're monitoring all those inmates calls in
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Speaker 6: his unit because he's now that they get a threat
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Speaker 6: assessment and put him in a general population unit. He's
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Speaker 6: more likely housed with other individuals that's probably charged with
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Speaker 6: sex defenses or former law enforcement officers for pending.
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Speaker 1: Charges to doctor Bethany Marshall joining US renowned psychoanalyst out
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Speaker 1: of LA, author of deal Breaker. You can see her
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Speaker 1: now on peacock or finder at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany mar Marshall. Second verse, same as the first.
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Speaker 1: The rules don't apply to do they They didn't out
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Speaker 1: here in civilian land, and they don't behind bars. He's
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Speaker 1: using other inmates packs to use their phone access. He
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Speaker 1: is directing other people demanding that they dig up dirt
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Speaker 1: on victims. You know how hard it is to get
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Speaker 1: a rape victim to testify in front of a unpacked courtroom,
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Speaker 1: to be the subject of derision, to be attacked on
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Speaker 1: cross examination about their motives for coming forward. Look how
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Speaker 1: long Cassie Ventira kept it secret that she was beaten
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Speaker 1: and raped according to her, by Combs. And now he's
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Speaker 1: doing it again behind bars. And who's getting it up
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Speaker 1: the rear end the prosecutors.
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Speaker 7: That's right, Nancy. Two things stand out to me. One
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Speaker 7: of the things is that probably his children were on
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Speaker 7: the approved caller list, and allegedly he is instructing one
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Speaker 7: of his children friend to get in touch with a
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Speaker 7: victim and get dirt on them. So think about that,
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Speaker 7: using your own children allegedly to commit a crime. The
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Speaker 7: other is that victims are extraordinarily ashamed because on some
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Speaker 7: level they were there and they participated unwillingly, and that
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Speaker 7: unwilling participation becomes confused with willing and then they really
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Speaker 7: want to hide. They're going to be put off from society.
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Speaker 1: You know, let me ask you this, faddest you were
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Speaker 1: a prosecutor at one time. You ever seen a shank?
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Speaker 1: And photo? Oh in photos Chris McDonald joining me, former
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Speaker 1: homicide detective, former vice detective director Cole Case Foundation. I
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Speaker 1: found them on the interview room on YouTube. Have you
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Speaker 1: ever seen a shank?
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Speaker 8: Absolutely, I've seen one made out of a toothbrush where
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Speaker 8: they grind down you know the end of the toothbrush,
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Speaker 8: and they make a like a spirit. So absolutely you
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Speaker 8: can make a shakeout of just about anything you can
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Speaker 8: get your hands on it.
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Speaker 1: Let's see the MDC Brooklyn amenities in door outdoor facilities
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Speaker 1: for games and sports, cable TV movie nights on weekends.
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Speaker 1: Nobody's giving me a movie nights that come with popcorn
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Speaker 1: and soda. In the last hours, we learn about a
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Speaker 1: jail cell Raid on Ditty's new digs at MDC. He's
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Speaker 1: already been transferred to a better location in a dorm
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Speaker 1: style setting, but now we learn that Raid found about
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Speaker 1: twenty pages of quote heart felt notes to his lawyer,
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Speaker 1: including demands that dirt be dug up on the alleged victims.
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Speaker 1: Again when you don't know a horse, look at his
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Speaker 1: shrick record listen.
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Speaker 2: Jamal shined bar says he wanted nothing to do with
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Speaker 2: Diddy after his conviction for the club and why shooting that.
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Speaker 2: Barrow says, Comb's committed. Barro says the singular time Combs
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Speaker 2: came to visit him, he tried to spit in Combe's face.
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Speaker 2: After serving ten years, Combs convinces Barrow to meet and
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Speaker 2: gives him fifty thousand dollars as restitution for taking the fall.
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Speaker 2: Barrow says five thousand dollars per year served felt like
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Speaker 2: a slap in the face when compared to the half
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Speaker 2: million dollar shopping sprees he treated Cassie to.
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Speaker 1: He probably gave me like fifty RECs.
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Speaker 9: And I'm like, you know, you can't be serious like
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Speaker 9: he p's ten years fifty RECs.
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Speaker 1: That's Jamal Shine at Barrows speaking to our friends at
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Speaker 1: the breakfast club. So I already know. According to him Barrow,
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Speaker 1: that Comb's will pay off a witness. The last thing
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Speaker 1: comes and wants is that event that shoots to be reopened,
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Speaker 1: and he comes had to go to jail for it.
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Speaker 1: We know, isn't it true? Straight out to Alex West
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Speaker 1: that Cassie Ventura did not comment or call police or
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Speaker 1: report the beatings and alleged rapes on her. It didn't
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Speaker 1: come to the consciousness of the public until the video
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Speaker 1: of Comes beating her, openly, chasing her down, kicking her.
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Speaker 1: Until that came out publicly, nobody knew what had happened.
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Speaker 1: He kept her quiet.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, she remained quiet.
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Speaker 4: She did not go to police, and that's the same
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Speaker 4: for most of the alleged victims. They did not come
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Speaker 4: forward until it was just time to file the lawsuits.
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Speaker 4: After Cassie's lawsuit, plenty more came forward, but they did
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Speaker 4: not previously speak about it, including some of the children.
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Speaker 4: There was a child who claims to have audition for
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Speaker 4: him and he was instructed to keep it from his parents,
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Speaker 4: and eventually he did it to say that he came
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Speaker 4: and spoke with them, but he was scared. He kept
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Speaker 4: quiet for a long time. And when the video Cassie
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Speaker 4: came out, that's when the general public knew, because she
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Speaker 4: settled with him within a day originally, and then the
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Speaker 4: video came out and the public, you know, was able
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Speaker 4: to physically see that. And he even took responsibility, but
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Speaker 4: not until the video came out.
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Speaker 1: I guarantee you Shawn Combs's defense will ask the judge
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Speaker 1: to have all of the sex trafficking charges thrown out
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Speaker 1: based on prosecutorial misconduct. Alleged prosecutorial misconduct during a jail
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Speaker 1: cell raid. Many pages of handwritten notes were found in
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Speaker 1: Shawn Combs's jail cell, including directions demands that others dig
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Speaker 1: up dirt on victims, that and more prosecutorial misconduct claims
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Speaker 1: usually unfounded, give a black eye to the prosecution, and
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Speaker 1: I guarantee you there will be a demand this case
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Speaker 1: be thrown out based on the raid. But what a
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Speaker 1: prosecutor say.
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Speaker 3: Listen, prosecutors argue there has been no wrongdoing, as the
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Speaker 3: notes into a filter team to confirm they did not
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Speaker 3: contain privileged information before prosecutors ever laid eyes on them.
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Speaker 3: Federal Agent Mary Slavic says her team acted in a
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Speaker 3: completely appropriate fashion in regard to the nineteen pages of documents.
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Speaker 1: Alex so Wes joining us from the mirror. I'm not
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Speaker 1: sure that the prosecutors realized a raid was being done,
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Speaker 1: conducted on comes is jail sale, you know.
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Speaker 4: That's the thing is the defense are claiming that the attorney,
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Speaker 4: the US Attorney's Office, prosecutors, the investigators, and those within
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Speaker 4: the prison we're working together.
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Speaker 2: We don't know for sure.
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Speaker 4: Obviously, those conversations are happening in courts and they're making
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Speaker 4: different claims. However, the raid did happen. They did write
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Speaker 4: that in their court documents, saying that the raid that's
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Speaker 4: how they found out this information, both the calls and
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Speaker 4: also the personal notes. And then the defense hit back immediately,
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Speaker 4: and you know, they say they use the filter team,
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Speaker 4: and the judge is aware of that, and they still
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Speaker 4: said they need to throw these documents out.
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Speaker 1: To doctor Dwayne Hendrix, who was associate warden at MDC.
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Speaker 1: When routine raids are done on jail sales, do the
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Speaker 1: prosecutors downtown and the courthouse know that raids are happening.
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Speaker 6: No, not in a specific thing. Whether this rate happened
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Speaker 6: where the whole jail was being searched for weapons and
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Speaker 6: hard contrabands. However, there had to be because the NBC
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Speaker 6: has their own legal counsel, a legal council team on site,
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Speaker 6: and I've never seen where there's photos of notes taken
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Speaker 6: from a self search unless they were specific instructed to
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Speaker 6: find something specific. So my assumption is something came out
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Speaker 6: of those phone calls that were recorded when he was
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Speaker 6: trying to use the three way calls, and maybe they
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Speaker 6: were looking for something specific when they did go look
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Speaker 6: at his belongings. That would be my estimation, because otherwise
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Speaker 6: I don't see why the legal council within the institution
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Speaker 6: or within the Bureau of Prisons would be having these
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Speaker 6: kind of conversations with the prosecution team. They were some
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Speaker 6: specific information that they were looking for based on the
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Speaker 6: phone calls that were made allegedly by mister Coles while
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Speaker 6: he was using those other inmates pack numbers.
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Speaker 1: Dr Hendricks, I think you're right. I think something originated
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Speaker 1: in those phone calls, which everybody knows, everybody in their
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Speaker 1: old aunt. No they're recorded. Well, the judge in this
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Speaker 1: case is taking it very seriously, even demanding an emergency hearing.
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Speaker 2: Listen, Judge Supermanian calls an emergency hearing on the matter,
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Speaker 2: talking Colm's defense team down from allege. Shockingly, Colmbs appears
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Speaker 2: for the hearing, unshackled, a freedom granted for all future
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Speaker 2: court appearances. Comb seems more at ease, hugs his attorneys,
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Speaker 2: and surveys the courtroom to see who is in attendance.
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Speaker 2: Judge supermani in rules that the notes will not be
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Speaker 2: allowed into evidence and prosecutors must destroy any and all
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Speaker 2: copies of the documents.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Hendrix, I want to understand from you if this
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Speaker 1: makes sense. Okay, makes sense to me, But you were
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Speaker 1: the one embedded MDC now agencies involved in the sweep
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Speaker 1: at your old CI. MDC insists this sweep was planned
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Speaker 1: prior to Sean Combs's detention and did not specific did
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Speaker 1: not target any specific inmate. Now, we've heard from the beginning,
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Speaker 1: since Comes first went there, that there was a sweet plan,
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Speaker 1: that there were measures being taken to find drugs and contraband,
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Speaker 1: to inspect conditions there. We've been hearing that since day one. Well,
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Speaker 1: it happened. So how was that targeting him?
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Speaker 6: It is, and I think it was just coincidental in
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Speaker 6: terms of the timing, because they have done other sweeps
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Speaker 6: of other federal correctional complexes across the country over the
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Speaker 6: last several months, and I think it just coincided with
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Speaker 6: him being taken out of solitary confinement or in a
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Speaker 6: special unit and being placed in general population and then
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Speaker 6: him allegedly starting to make these calls and different things
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Speaker 6: in that nature. So maybe the suite, maybe it was
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Speaker 6: already pre planned, but it maybe got pushed up a
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Speaker 6: little bit earlier based on the information that the staff
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Speaker 6: were passing on to the Southern District of New York's
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Speaker 6: prosecution team. But that is again I will just say
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Speaker 6: there had to be something specific that they were looking
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Speaker 6: for in terms of taking pictures of notes based on
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Speaker 6: these alleged calls, especially when you're talking about eight different inmates.
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Speaker 6: It's one thing to have one inmate to you have
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Speaker 6: to try to make a three way call, but you're
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Speaker 6: talking about eight different inmates. So he was trying very hard,
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Speaker 6: allegedly very hard, to try to get this information out
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Speaker 6: so he can do what he needs to do or
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Speaker 6: he feels like he needs to do to put himself
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Speaker 6: in a better position to be found not guilty on
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Speaker 6: these charges.
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Speaker 10: Secutters allege that the bittersweet video of Sean Diddy Combe's
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Speaker 10: children celebrating his birthday without him is really a carefully
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Speaker 10: curated PR stunt to improve potential jurors opinion of him.
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Speaker 10: In court documents, prosecutors claim Combs explicitly told family members
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Speaker 10: how to ensure the video produced the desired effect, and
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Speaker 10: instructed all of his children to post the video to
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Speaker 10: their own social media accounts.
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Speaker 1: Wow, imagine that using his own children as a PR stunt.
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Speaker 1: Joining me from the mirror, Alex West, what.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I remember seeing the posts come up, and
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Speaker 4: those of us in the newsroom were shocked. We said,
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Speaker 4: is this Diddy posting somehow from jail? Is he using
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Speaker 4: his kids to friend the social media. But we do
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Speaker 4: know is he's in contact with them or he's in
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Speaker 4: touch with them. They are coming to the courtroom. We're
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Speaker 4: watching them come to his appearances together, including his mother.
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Speaker 4: So he's in close contact with his family. I can't
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Speaker 4: say whether or not he's using them, that's a question
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Speaker 4: for the law, but I do know he's close with
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Speaker 4: his family even going through these legal proceedings.
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Speaker 1: Just just hold on just a moment. You don't see
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Speaker 1: any connection here, doctor Bethany Marshall. Please they do a
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Speaker 1: sweep of his jail cell, which they've been talking about
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Speaker 1: for months that they're gonna investigate MDC about its conditions
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Speaker 1: and they're gonna do sweeps of jail cells. Well they
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Speaker 1: did it. After they do it now, allegations are emerging
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Speaker 1: that this you know what, let me show it to you,
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Speaker 1: that this birthday wish and showing his children asking him
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Speaker 1: to stay strong and so forth and so on with
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Speaker 1: just a big stunt. I wonder if that was discovered
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Speaker 1: from the documents and the demand to do list found
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Speaker 1: in his jail cell. Watch this, Bethany, two of you
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Speaker 1: get on the phone, okay, doctor Bethany. Us from Ditty's
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Speaker 1: Sons official Instagram. That's at Prince J Date dash c.
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Speaker 1: What about Bethany imagine Sean comes using somebody.
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Speaker 7: Oh right, hard to believe, right, You know, this might
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Speaker 7: be hard to believe, but some families actually organize themselves
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Speaker 7: like cults, with the dad, the person being at the top,
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Speaker 7: being almost like a cult leader, where all benefits flow
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Speaker 7: upwards to the parent. You know, in normal families, most
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Speaker 7: of the benefits flow to the children.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 7: We think about our children, we want to love and
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Speaker 7: nurture them. In these cult like families, it's in the reverse.
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Speaker 7: And these allegend crimes really do mirror a cult, a
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Speaker 7: sex cult where the leader imagines themselves to be spiritually authoritative,
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Speaker 7: you know, all these inspirational quotes.
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Speaker 1: And calling himself love.
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Speaker 7: So I try to think about the family that way.
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Speaker 1: Did you just say inspirational quotes? Just what did you
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Speaker 1: drink the kool aid? Inspirational quotes? My rear end those
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Speaker 1: nineteen pages is all about find dirt on Cassie, find
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Speaker 1: dirt on this one and on that one, Do this,
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Speaker 1: do that. That's what the inspirational and heart felt meanderings were.
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Speaker 1: They're not just you know what I can't hear you
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Speaker 1: right now watch this, Bethany.
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Speaker 9: If yours King Kombe and right now taking over my
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Speaker 9: pops Instagram. We're gonna be posting videos by spreading you know,
24:25
Speaker 9: good energy and taking all down memory laying all the
24:29
Speaker 9: positive things you did. So stay tuned and watch this.
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Speaker 9: Let's go. We love you, Potch, have your birthday.
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Speaker 1: That's from Didy's official instapage. You know what, let me
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Speaker 1: go out to Shannon Henry joining us in addition to
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Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall and Alex West. Shannon Henry is president
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Speaker 1: and founder of SaaS Go SASS Surviving Assault Standing Strong.
24:53
Speaker 1: It's a nonprofit whose mission is to stop trafficking and
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Speaker 1: violence on women. Okay, just pause for a moment, Shannon Henry,
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Speaker 1: did you see where the sun is trying to quote
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Speaker 1: spread good energy and taking us all down memory lane
25:13
Speaker 1: with all the positive things Sean comes did. It's hard
25:17
Speaker 1: for me to even look at any of those positive things,
25:20
Speaker 1: knowing that the weekend before he had a free call
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Speaker 1: where women claiming they were drugged and raped.
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Speaker 11: I was chomping at the bit to get in here
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Speaker 11: and speak to this. So I'm glad you came to me.
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Speaker 4: Nancy.
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Speaker 11: This is the abuser's playbook on steroids, and he's doing
25:34
Speaker 11: it through his children and other people in the prison system.
25:38
Speaker 11: He's even convinced a jury to our people to say, hey,
25:43
Speaker 11: let him be unshackled when he comes into this courtroom,
25:47
Speaker 11: so that there's no bias against him, which amazes me
25:51
Speaker 11: because that road runs both ways. They could also presume
25:55
Speaker 11: that he's innocent because he's not in shackles. So he
25:57
Speaker 11: continues to rob people Flouet's individuals all the time, and
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Speaker 11: he's in control again from prison. It's amazing.
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Speaker 1: Do you ever wake up our morning coveted baby or
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Speaker 1: with your end hurting ritter?
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Speaker 8: No, I cannot say that I've experienced that.
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Speaker 1: But well, lucky you, I guess you didn't go to
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Speaker 1: a white party. That's what this is about. It's not
26:26
Speaker 1: really about the jail sales suite. It's not about Sean
26:30
Speaker 1: Comb's using multiple other inmates pack numbers to conduct three
26:35
Speaker 1: way phone calls to orchestrate digging up dirt on victims.
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Speaker 1: It's about what happened to the alleged victims. We can
26:44
Speaker 1: make jokes about it, we can make light of it
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Speaker 1: when it gets too much to think about. But this
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Speaker 1: is what it is. Women and men claiming they were
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Speaker 1: drugged at the so called white parties, and these so
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Speaker 1: called freak offs waking up realizing that they had been raped,
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Speaker 1: only later to learn, according to them, that the whole
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Speaker 1: thing was caught on video, them naked, their private parts,
27:09
Speaker 1: the accident upon them without their knowledge. That's what we're
27:13
Speaker 1: talking about. Let me just bring it home. Rape victims
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Speaker 1: go the rest of their lives suffering, They have flashbacks.
27:21
Speaker 1: It affects the way they live from that point forward.
27:25
Speaker 1: Some of them never get over it. That's what we're
27:28
Speaker 1: talking about. But in the news now is Combs's home,
27:36
Speaker 1: his mansion.
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Speaker 12: Listen, this house is amazing, great architecture, the guest quarters,
27:41
Speaker 12: I don't know, not big enough for guests with like
27:44
Speaker 12: security staff or personal staff, but everything else really checks
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Speaker 12: every single box. This house is listed for sixty one
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Speaker 12: point five million. My target is thirty million. Investors stay
27:54
Speaker 12: away from houses like this, the Kanye West House, the
27:57
Speaker 12: p Diddy house, but this is our target. We take
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Speaker 12: the house, we renew it, we restore it, but we
28:03
Speaker 12: also changed the persona in the stigma. We make sure
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Speaker 12: this house.
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Speaker 1: Is number one hm HM That is from at Bellwood
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Speaker 1: b Oh talking about the great architecture. The house is amazing.
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Speaker 1: It's listed for sixty one point five million dollars. But
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Speaker 1: right row, there may be a problem.
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Speaker 13: And here's the problem. Nancy Jason height property manager of
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Speaker 13: a Las Vegas rental, says Colmbs made odd requests that
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Speaker 13: now can only be described as chilling. Combs rented a
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Speaker 13: Las Vegas mansion to host a birthday party for Meek
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Speaker 13: Mills in twenty fourteen. Heighte says Colmbs insisted that all
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Speaker 13: bedroom doors be equipped with double sided locks and that
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Speaker 13: he be provided the only keys. Hede says the home
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Speaker 13: was left a disaster. The bedrooms in particular left and squallor.
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Speaker 13: He found use condoms and smears of lubricant on countertops
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Speaker 13: and floors, cocaine and half empty liquor bottles everywhere, and
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Speaker 13: the bedding in several rooms was bloodstained.
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Speaker 1: I may need to hear that again. Alex West joining
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Speaker 1: me entertainment reporter with the mirror. Let me understand, I've
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Speaker 1: got this flashy real estate guy in front of Sean
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Speaker 1: Combs's mansion talking about let's see, what were his exact words, man,
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Speaker 1: this house is amazing. And then I've got a property
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Speaker 1: manager stating that used condoms, smears of lubricant on countertops
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Speaker 1: and floors, cocaine, half empty liquor bottles with blood stained betting,
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Speaker 1: and several of the rooms.
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Speaker 4: Did you know that, Alex, You know we've been seeing
29:52
Speaker 4: reports about that from hotels. The prosecutors say that this
29:57
Speaker 4: is kind of similar to what was happening in these
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Speaker 4: hotel hells where they were giving different supplies for free
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Speaker 4: golfs and that's including new bedding, fresh bedding, And now
30:05
Speaker 4: you know they're saying in these houses there was blood
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Speaker 4: on the sheets. So it really does seem similar to
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Speaker 4: what was occurring in these alleged alleged incidents at these hotels.
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Speaker 4: We do know, while this house might be grand, that
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Speaker 4: stigma isn't going to easily go away when we know
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Speaker 4: that these events were supposedly happening. We know that these
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Speaker 4: giant parties were happening, and now they're saying allegedly that
30:27
Speaker 4: they were in disarray in gross conditions, including blood and
30:33
Speaker 4: so many other different things. Right, So it's weird. The
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Speaker 4: idea of trying to change the stigma is very strange.
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Speaker 1: To Shannon Henry joining US President founder of surviving assault,
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Speaker 1: standing strong lubricant on countertops and floors, cocaine, half empty
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Speaker 1: liquor bottles, bloodstains in multiple bedrooms, on the sheets and
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Speaker 1: the covers. Doesn't sound like a party to me. It
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Speaker 1: sounds like a crime scene.
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Speaker 11: It is a crime scene, Nancy. And what's amazing to
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Speaker 11: me is that you have these people that have been
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Speaker 11: invited to something that seemed lavish and sexy, but what
31:13
Speaker 11: you find is that it was really and truly humiliation
31:17
Speaker 11: rituals going on behind the doors of these homes and
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Speaker 11: hotels and combs was at the top of all of it.
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Speaker 1: What about a doctor, Bethany a party? It doesn't sound
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Speaker 1: like any party I've ever been to. Never, Nancy.
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Speaker 7: This is consistent with luring victims with some kind of
31:33
Speaker 7: a promise, just like giving a child candy or saying
31:35
Speaker 7: I have a puppy dog around the corner, although this
31:38
Speaker 7: is probably Crystal and Camus and Caviare and all of that,
31:44
Speaker 7: so that the victims really are made to believe that
31:47
Speaker 7: they're going to have a special experience. But these legend
31:51
Speaker 7: crimes are more consistent with a rape machine, almost like
31:56
Speaker 7: a killing machine. When someone goes on a spree. This
31:59
Speaker 7: would be consistent with the rape scene and also Nancy
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Speaker 7: those Florida ceiling mirrors we talked about in another show.
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Speaker 7: This would be consistent with the perpetrator who is so
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Speaker 7: controlling that they want to see everything that's going on
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Speaker 7: from every angle, so that nobody is doing anything that
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Speaker 7: the perpetrator does not want them to do.
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Speaker 1: Bethany, I know you're a high profile psycho analyst joining
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Speaker 1: us out of Beverly Hills. You're on Peacock, You're famous,
32:28
Speaker 1: You've written books. Have you ever been in a cow
32:32
Speaker 1: pasture and seeing those little bugs flying around? How can
32:37
Speaker 1: I say this? The cowpoop, patties of cowpoop? You ever
32:43
Speaker 1: seen that? I certainly have. Okay, those little flies flying
32:50
Speaker 1: around cowcrap? It stinks to high Heaven. I want to
32:56
Speaker 1: see that video again.
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Speaker 12: Is amazing. Great architecture, the guest quarters, I don't know,
33:03
Speaker 12: not big enough for guests with like security staff or
33:06
Speaker 12: personal staff, but everything else really checks every single box.
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Speaker 12: This house is listed for sixty one point five million.
33:13
Speaker 12: My target is thirty million. Investors stay away from houses
33:16
Speaker 12: like this, the Kanye West House, the p Diddy house,
33:19
Speaker 12: but this is our target. We take the house, we
33:22
Speaker 12: renew it, we restore it, but we also changed the
33:24
Speaker 12: persona in the stigma. We make sure this house is
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Speaker 12: number one.
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Speaker 1: I don't know why he's calling this a mansion and
33:30
Speaker 1: we're sixty one million dollars because it looks like a
33:33
Speaker 1: steam and pile of cowcrap to me, and whoever's buzzing
33:37
Speaker 1: around it that's on them that is from at Bell
33:42
Speaker 1: would be oh, and you know what did he needs
33:47
Speaker 1: that house to sell because trust me, he's going to
33:49
Speaker 1: need that money for his defense.
33:52
Speaker 3: Well Tony Buzzby filed five new lawsuits against Sean Combs.
33:55
Speaker 3: An anonymous celeb filed a suit against him that John
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Speaker 3: Doe accuses Buzzby of extra after receiving a demand letter
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Speaker 3: from his firm offering the chance to settle outside of
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Speaker 3: court before making the allegations public. While the celebrity claims
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Speaker 3: Busby demanded an exorbitant amount of money at the threat
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Speaker 3: of publishing fabricated instances of sexual assault, Buzby says, the
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Speaker 3: standard demand letters do not contain any sums whatsoever, but
34:19
Speaker 3: the allegations are very real.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So the lawyer Tony Busby, representing a member he
34:25
Speaker 1: was the one that came up with the eight hundred
34:26
Speaker 1: number for all of the alleged victims of Sean did
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Speaker 1: he Combs to call and join in a lawsuit against Combs?
34:34
Speaker 1: A civil lawsuit? Now he is getting sued Alex West
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Speaker 1: in a nutshell? What's that all about?
34:42
Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is an extortion case. They're accusing him
34:44
Speaker 4: of extortion. They're saying that that he was sent us
34:48
Speaker 4: a demand letter, and this high profile individual, as he's
34:52
Speaker 4: describing himself, says that he is not going to back
34:55
Speaker 4: down from this and that he wants the court to
34:57
Speaker 4: stop it in its tracks and that he feels is wrong.
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Speaker 4: Of course, he's remaining anonymous right so we don't know
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Speaker 4: much more about beyond that. We also do know that
35:06
Speaker 4: there is a second lawsuit file it against Busby too,
35:09
Speaker 4: which alleges him of unethical practices and it alleges abuse
35:14
Speaker 4: from Busby.
35:16
Speaker 1: One of that could have been on Diddy's to do
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Speaker 1: list that they just found in his jail cell. Destroyed
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Speaker 1: Tony Busby. We'll see crime stories with Nancy Grace to
35:38
Speaker 1: Eric Fattus joining us, high profile lawyer, former prosecutor, a
35:43
Speaker 1: partner at Varner Fattus Elite legal demand letters happen every day.
35:50
Speaker 1: They happen in typically civil lawsuits. You're going to sue somebody,
35:56
Speaker 1: you send them a demand letter and you say, hey,
35:58
Speaker 1: stop doing AYZ and pay me ABC or else. I'm
36:04
Speaker 1: filing a lawsuit. That happens every day. See that's commonplace.
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Speaker 5: I think this extortion case against Tony Busby doesn't have
36:11
Speaker 5: a lot of merit. Extriction is where a person says, hey,
36:14
Speaker 5: give me money, or I'm going to do something unlawful
36:16
Speaker 5: to you, like break your knee gaps. That's not what
36:19
Speaker 5: Tony Busby is doing. He is engaging in normal civil
36:22
Speaker 5: practice sending these demand letters. There's nothing unlawful for what
36:25
Speaker 5: I can see. I think this is just a prominent
36:27
Speaker 5: person trying to get in front of this sort of
36:30
Speaker 5: bad pr tsunami that could be coming their way.
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Speaker 1: So let me understand Alex Swift. The person that's now
36:36
Speaker 1: suing civil attorney Tony Busby, I guess, is a celeb
36:42
Speaker 1: that has been accused of what being at a freak
36:46
Speaker 1: off or a white party taking part in attacks on victims.
36:52
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out why would Tony Busby
36:55
Speaker 1: send that person The anonymous person suing Tony Busby. Why
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Speaker 1: would Busby send him a demand letter and sue him
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Speaker 1: to start with?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, That's the thing about the case is this high
37:08
Speaker 4: profile individual has been pretty vague. They don't specify what
37:12
Speaker 4: they are being accused of really other than being involved
37:14
Speaker 4: in some sort of allegations involving Diddy. And the thing
37:17
Speaker 4: about the Diddy case, right is there is a lot
37:19
Speaker 4: of things in a lot of context that he's been
37:21
Speaker 4: accused in. He does not, this high performan does not
37:24
Speaker 4: specify which part. He's trying to stay as vague as possible.
37:27
Speaker 4: As this conversation continues.
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Speaker 1: Isn't it true, Alex West that cases have been and
37:34
Speaker 1: could be dropped because accusers will not allow their name
37:38
Speaker 1: to be made public.
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Speaker 4: I mean absolutely, It's a thing that's happened in the past,
37:43
Speaker 4: especially when they feel it's important to the story and
37:46
Speaker 4: to the allegations joining us.
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Speaker 1: Chris mcdonna, director Cole Case Foundation, former homicide former Vice
37:53
Speaker 1: Chris McDonough, I'm wondering how much of this information we're
37:57
Speaker 1: just getting is coming out of what found and Seawan
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Speaker 1: comes as jail cell.
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Speaker 8: You know, Nancy, here's some inspiration for his notebook. This
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Speaker 8: is an ongoing investigation.
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Speaker 4: I e.
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Speaker 8: There are multiple tracks now with two trains on a
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Speaker 8: one civil and one criminal. They are monitoring everything inbound
38:20
Speaker 8: outbound from that jail cell where p Diddy is sitting,
38:24
Speaker 8: and you can bet that the FEDG because this has
38:28
Speaker 8: a lot of legs on it, going across to California,
38:31
Speaker 8: et cetera. They are sitting somewhere with a T three,
38:35
Speaker 8: meaning they're sitting there monitoring everything going in every direction.
38:41
Speaker 8: So he's going to have to sell the house with
38:44
Speaker 8: the orgy room and all the other stuff that comes
38:47
Speaker 8: along with it.
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Speaker 1: From what we understand, a list of alleged victims and
38:52
Speaker 1: sex workers are lining up to testify against Combs.
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Speaker 10: Federal prosecutors are continuing their investigation into Sean Diddy Comb's
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Speaker 10: freak coughs, and several male escorts are reportedly lining up
39:04
Speaker 10: for the opportunity to share their horrific experiences. Several former
39:08
Speaker 10: sex workers allege they were given strict expectations before being
39:12
Speaker 10: hired for a freak off and required to take viagra
39:15
Speaker 10: or see alis before the event. If performers failed to
39:18
Speaker 10: meet the standards, they would be removed from the party
39:20
Speaker 10: without compensation and blacklisted.
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Speaker 1: And Eric Fattus, Yes, they're sex workers, and the defense
39:27
Speaker 1: will try to attack them on credibility. But think about it, Fatus.
39:32
Speaker 1: They may be sex workers, but according to documents, proof
39:36
Speaker 1: and eyewitnesses, Sean Combs is the one hiring them and
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Speaker 1: flying them to his parties.
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Speaker 5: Exactly right, Nancy, And I think our culture has evolved
39:45
Speaker 5: a little bit in terms of how we see sex workers.
39:48
Speaker 5: The emergency of OnlyFans that they sort of there's just
39:51
Speaker 5: more allowances given for that line of work, and so
39:54
Speaker 5: I'm not sure that stigma should be applied to these folks.
39:58
Speaker 5: And I bet in New York, once the case comes
39:59
Speaker 5: to there'll be less of a stigma on that type
40:03
Speaker 5: of profession as compared to something else.
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Speaker 1: I mean, what I'm saying, Fattess is if Shawn Holmes
40:11
Speaker 1: lawyers try to cross examine sex workers on their testimony
40:17
Speaker 1: regarding what happened at free COFs and white parties, it's
40:21
Speaker 1: going to turn right back around on him. He's the
40:24
Speaker 1: one that allegedly hired them, He's the one that allegedly
40:27
Speaker 1: brought them into his parties. So who is Shawn Colmbs
40:30
Speaker 1: hanging around with nuns and priests and versions HGLN sex
40:36
Speaker 1: workers brought in for a freak off that can only
40:39
Speaker 1: boomerang and hit him in the neck.
40:41
Speaker 5: Yeah, I hear you. I mean, according to the evidence,
40:43
Speaker 5: that looks like Combs is the ringleader here, He's the
40:46
Speaker 5: orchestrator of all of this. And so can he really
40:49
Speaker 5: go and talk out two sides of his mouth and say, oh,
40:52
Speaker 5: don't believe these sex workers, but yet I trusted them
40:55
Speaker 5: enough to hire them and have them work at these parties.
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Speaker 1: I'm just not sure that argument's going to fly. Wait
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Speaker 1: as justice unfolds and the investigation goes on, Nancy Grace
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Speaker 1: signing off, Goodbye friend,