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Should Ohio State Try To Add Chaz Coleman If He Leaves Tennessee? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Tony Gerdaman of Buckeye Insiders dot com. Tony, there is
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  Speaker 1: sort of this persistent story and the update is, well,
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  Speaker 1: there isn't technically an update yet, but there could be
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  Speaker 1: an update soon, and there's sort of hints that there
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  Speaker 1: may be an update soon, and this conversation could go
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  Speaker 1: from theoretical to actual, but we're going to have it
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  Speaker 1: as a little bit of a theoretical conversation first, and
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about Chaz Coleman, second year edge rusher at
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  Speaker 1: the University of Tennessee. At least for now, this has
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  Speaker 1: been a kind of a weird conversation, a weird situation altogether.
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  Speaker 1: There were rumors, there was a report at one point,
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  Speaker 1: like a week ago, that oh, he's gone, he's off
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  Speaker 1: the team, And no, he's not off the team at
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  Speaker 1: least yet. But he's also not participating in team workouts.
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  Speaker 1: So he's in this like weird in between place right
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  Speaker 1: now as a Tennessee volunteer.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we've heard about guys. We've heard similar stories
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  Speaker 2: of the over the years where guys are away from
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  Speaker 2: the team, and so somebody will a friend that is
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  Speaker 2: he's left the team, and there's there's a difference between
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  Speaker 2: no longer being on the team being away from the team,
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  Speaker 2: And if he's away from the team, that doesn't mean
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  Speaker 2: he's gone. It just means that right now, other things
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  Speaker 2: are taking priority. And so that's kind of where things
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  Speaker 2: stand in terms of what's going on. As far as
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  Speaker 2: from what I could tell, it's just right now if
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  Speaker 2: all that's going on are summer workouts, not that that's a
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  Speaker 2: you know, a small thing if he's not with the team.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think this is something that would eliminate him
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  Speaker 2: from being with the team at any point because you
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  Speaker 2: come in whenever a semester starts, or you know, they've
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  Speaker 2: got these small semesters, these middle semester type things. It
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  Speaker 2: is certainly we're all watching it and it's hoping for
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  Speaker 2: the best for the kid, but overall we're all just
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  Speaker 2: kind of waiting for a final answer or the next step,
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  Speaker 2: I guess would be the right way to say it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not with the team, but he's also not
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  Speaker 1: not on the team. He's not on so it's it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of a confusing thing. This is one of these
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  Speaker 1: times of years where these are probably technically optional workouts
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  Speaker 1: probably but you know, optional maybe have some has some
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  Speaker 1: air quotes around it to a certain degree. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so he right now, he is still with the University
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  Speaker 1: of Tennessee. But just to remind people who we're talking about,
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  Speaker 1: he is a Northeast Ohio native. Played his true freshman
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  Speaker 1: season last year at Penn State for defensive coordinator Jim Knowles,
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  Speaker 1: and was you know, there was some promise, there was
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  Speaker 1: some flash there. He played a little bit. The stats
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  Speaker 1: were not in you know, we're not knock you over,
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  Speaker 1: but he played enough as a true freshman that it
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  Speaker 1: was kind of like Okay, there's something there, and I
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  Speaker 1: know you and I did a show about him when
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  Speaker 1: he entered the Transfer portal and talked about him as
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  Speaker 1: a potential target for Ohio State, and it was sort
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  Speaker 1: of it's intriguing, but it's not proven by any means,
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  Speaker 1: And I think I don't know that my opinion on
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  Speaker 1: him has changed meaningfully since then, where it's just, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this is an intriguing prospect, but you're not. You know,
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  Speaker 1: this is also not by any means a sure thing.
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  Speaker 2: No, And the numbers haven't changed since we did the
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  Speaker 2: show after he entered the Transfer portal, where it's eight tackles,
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  Speaker 2: three tackles for loss, a sack, a couple of fubble
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  Speaker 2: returns where there were some flashes but you want to
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  Speaker 2: see more. And the way that he was portrayed as
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  Speaker 2: basically the one of the edge Portal players was a
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  Speaker 2: little alarming based on his limited playing time. You know,
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  Speaker 2: he's got an interesting frame, he's still adding weight. But
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  Speaker 2: I don't think at the time neither one of it,
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  Speaker 2: either one of us said that, boy, this is a
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  Speaker 2: guy you've got to go get. It's a can't mess.
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  Speaker 2: Now he's an Ohio kid with talent. So yeah, if
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  Speaker 2: he's available, you try to get him, and obviously Tennessee
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  Speaker 2: one that sweepstakes there, but you know, clearly I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what they've won.
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  Speaker 1: And now the question is what's next. And if he
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  Speaker 1: stays with Tennessee, obviously that answers the question and the
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  Speaker 1: conversation is over at least until the transfer portal potentially
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  Speaker 1: opens up after the season. If he doesn't stay with Tennessee,
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  Speaker 1: then you know, I think there's a whole separate conversation about, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: does he get released from his NIL and does he
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  Speaker 1: you know, is he really truly a free agent and
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  Speaker 1: what does that look like? That is a whole messy,
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  Speaker 1: complicated situation and there's a lot of variables there. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't think we can, you know, intelligently dissect that
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  Speaker 1: whole situation right now. I'm more interested in the answer
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  Speaker 1: to this question. Should Ohio state if he is available,
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  Speaker 1: If he is if it is an option to add
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  Speaker 1: him for this year, and you're not going to run
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  Speaker 1: a foul of the you know, secret backdoor transfer portal
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  Speaker 1: rule and all that, if the NCAA is okay with it,
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  Speaker 1: if Tennessee is okay with it, as Chavs Coleman's okay
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  Speaker 1: with it is to this someone that Ohio State should pursue.
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  Speaker 1: And if so, are there any sort of guardrails that
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  Speaker 1: you put around that, or any sort of yes yes
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  Speaker 1: butts around that?
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  Speaker 2: Now. I think that comes through the vetting process in
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  Speaker 2: terms of you probably don't bring in somebody that you
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  Speaker 2: need guardrails for. I think one interesting aspect of this
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  Speaker 2: is if it's better for him to be closer to
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  Speaker 2: home for his sake, like that's the most important thing.
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  Speaker 2: We would agree, just get right whatever you need, get
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  Speaker 2: that if he can get that at Ohio State better
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  Speaker 2: than he can Penn State or Tennessee, and that's something
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  Speaker 2: that they're looking for. I think Ohio State can provide that.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's that ability to mesh everything together. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think you're going to bring in somebody and say
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  Speaker 2: if we need to see this, we need like you're
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  Speaker 2: putting parameters on stuff, Like everybody has rules and regulations
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  Speaker 2: that they need to go by, and I don't know
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  Speaker 2: that there would want they would want to bring in
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  Speaker 2: somebody that has additional rules and regulations because you're not
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  Speaker 2: sure about them. The key about the transfer portal is
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  Speaker 2: being sure about somebody. Now, he's a little bit different
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  Speaker 2: that he's young, and he's local ish in state, So
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  Speaker 2: I think maybe you could take a bigger swing or
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  Speaker 2: a bigger risk. But because we have seen like this
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  Speaker 2: is sort of related, not really, but a Sean Washington,
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  Speaker 2: a transfer offensive lineman who isn't expected to play this
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  Speaker 2: year young, So like there is a history of bringing
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  Speaker 2: in transfers that you don't expect to play, and they
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  Speaker 2: did it last year with well offensive lineman from West Virginia.
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  Speaker 2: So in that way, you could be like, yeah, come aboard,
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  Speaker 2: get right, we'll be here. The team will be here
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  Speaker 2: when you're ready. Football will be here when you're ready,
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  Speaker 2: but get right. So in that way, maybe Ohio State
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  Speaker 2: can invest in both his future and theirs. And I
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  Speaker 2: would also say, I don't think you can never have
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  Speaker 2: enough defensive lineman. So I think there's a lot to
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  Speaker 2: work with their provided he's where he needs to be, mentally, emotionally,
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  Speaker 2: all of that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a lot of upfront conversations that
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  Speaker 1: you need to have, like you said, and there's a lot,
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  Speaker 1: and they do a really really good job with that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the caliber of not just player individuals that
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  Speaker 1: they have in the program right now is as high
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  Speaker 1: as it has ever been in the time that I've
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  Speaker 1: been around the program, and that has been a while.
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  Speaker 1: And so you know, I think they do a good,
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  Speaker 1: a very good job vetting that. And I think there's
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's programs that have done a good job
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  Speaker 1: of sorting out the just there for the paycheck versus
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  Speaker 1: the sort of maybe taking more of a holistic approach
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  Speaker 1: and more of a big picture approach kind of thing.
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  Speaker 1: I think Ohio States scored relatively well on that front
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  Speaker 1: as well. You know, the last time he was in
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  Speaker 1: the portal when when after he left Penn State, I
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  Speaker 1: think that the nil piece of this was a pretty
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  Speaker 1: significant part of that decision from all indications. So if
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  Speaker 1: you're coming to Ohio State now, and again this is
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  Speaker 1: let's just reiterate, still part of Tennessee's program. This is
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  Speaker 1: just a theoretical conversation. But if he were to go,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to become available now to get him to
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  Speaker 1: come to Ohio State, I think you're probably having the
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  Speaker 1: you got to come earn it conversation. You know that
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  Speaker 1: that this is not like, okay, remember what we said
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  Speaker 1: we would give you back in December or January. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: same offer. I don't think that's the conversation. I think
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  Speaker 1: the answer is, we want to help you. We think
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  Speaker 1: you can benefit from being here, we think we can
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  Speaker 1: benefit from having you on our roster. But it's it's
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of a little bit of show me.
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  Speaker 1: Probably before there's a lot of you know, before you
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  Speaker 1: get to okay, and now you're back to the same
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  Speaker 1: kind of conversations you were having before. Yeah, I would agree,
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  Speaker 1: all right, So there you go. Should they go after
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  Speaker 1: Chas Coleman, Well, ask again once he's in the transfer portal,
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  Speaker 1: we'll have plenty more to talk about if and will
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  Speaker 1: he actually go in the transfer portal. He probably isn't
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  Speaker 1: technically in the transfer portal. It's a kind of complicated
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  Speaker 1: situation and a little bit of tony in the effor
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  Speaker 1: evolving world of college football, this may be a largely
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  Speaker 1: without precedent situation. So we'll all get to find out
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  Speaker 1: exactly the specifics of it together and when when we
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  Speaker 1: do figure that out, if he does go it does
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  Speaker 1: end up leaving Tennessee, we'll see whether Ohio State does
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  Speaker 1: pursue him, and if so, how that all goes and
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