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Browns 2026 UDFA Class Recap + Rookie Minicamp Begins! - Cleveland Browns Podcast for 5/8/26 · The Dawgs - A Cleveland Browns Podcast

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Dog's Podcast with your hosts, Lake Renaker, Justin Charles, and Josh All.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's up, Browns fans?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to another episode of the Dog's Podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Josh All, you're host on a Friday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Happy, Friday, happy kickoff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Two Browns rookie nitty camp this weekend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Finally, all these other NFL teams have started their rookie mini camps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm seeing clips and highlights from, you know, on X and social media TikTok from these other teams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: These other rookie mini camps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, just get our started already for God's sake.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I need to see Casey and Boston and all these guys out on the field and it's time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are there.
0:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I got to tell you guys, I am fired up today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Passionate because I have been reading so much, but lonely the last couple of days.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll just Sean Watson being the best fit for the Browns, who's our best option to win games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's so much flawed thought process out there from people at below's my mind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got Cleveland media people who just can't get it through their thick skulls that this is a bad freaking situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But hey, nobody, uh, that's why people don't listen to those guys as much anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's why you guys are here listening to this podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I appreciate you guys being here today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope your week has been awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got great plans for the weekend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully the weather's going to hold up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have no idea.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't even looked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: whatever its mother's day happy mother's day to all you mothers out there you guys rock we would not be here without you and we wouldn't be able to do what we do without your love and support so happy mothers day weekend to everybody out there now today primarily what I want to get into UTFAs I've been promising you guys I'm going to do a breakdown for all the undrafted free agents the brown sign after the NFL draft concluded these are all the rookies that nobody
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[SPEAKER_01]: available in the open market.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Any team could negotiate and sign a contract with them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I've got a list of, I want to say, 14, 15, 16 players or whatever, something like that that we're going to go through now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to be as in depth as my episodes about the actual draft picks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One, there's just not as much information about these guys out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: a lot of times, these back end of the draft projected guys, the UDFA, the priority guys, they just, they don't have the scout and reports a lot of them weren't invited to the NFL combine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's just not as much information out there about them as there would be four year, you know, day one, day two picks, guys like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did what I could, found what I could for each one of these players, we'll talk about them, and I'll give you my opinion on which ones I think have an actually legit shot of making the roster, which ones are probably just going to fill a body spot for the summer and for rookie mini-camp, but either way we're going to go through this list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So as the weekend unfolds and then as OTAs come up and all this kind of stuff you guys are familiar with the names,
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[SPEAKER_01]: and you know who to be watching for.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just, I want to expound just a little bit more on this whole quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They obviously, the Brennan source be thing has just taken social media by storm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got people out there saying, you know, this guy was a previously projected, like he's projected as a first round pick for 20, 20, seven.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you could get out ahead of that draft, now,
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[SPEAKER_01]: and get him for a second or a third round pick, they think that's a good idea.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Other people are like, I wouldn't touch this with a 10-foot pole.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got a gambling addiction, and there's other people that are like, yeah, he's not even that good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's the truth about Brendan Sorsby?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is extremely talented.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The dude has legitimate NFL body, legitimate NFL, armed, legitimate NFL speed of mobility for the quarterback position.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All those things are true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is a projected top or a projected first round pick at the moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you go to mock draft database, he is, oh, man, I should have brought that up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to give you the exact number.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's projected into the teams, I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Late teams are something like that, but either way, like if you look at it right now, pre, summer, pre college football season projections, he is projected as a first round pick in 2027.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, obviously the college football season will change those projections for a lot of players.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But right now for anybody saying he's not projected as first round pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He currently is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the situation with sores.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Be will see how it unfold.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this whole situation might not even be worth talking about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't even entered the supplemental draft yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's still trying to appeal and keep his college eligibility to play one more season now, it takes his tech to improve that draft stock and everything else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe there might not even be a supplemental draft to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the chances are very high.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do not foresee the NCAA in any way,
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[SPEAKER_01]: let in this kid play college football they i think these allegations now obviously if if they can prove that they're not true or or unlike whatever however that works out legal system but
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is way too serious of a situation for him to be allowed back into the NCAA.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I do think it's a very high likelihood there will be a supplemental draft, which is why the conversation is worth having.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said this last time and I keep saying it until we have a locked in, solidified, no doubt about it starting quarterback every single quarterback option that comes up will be discussed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in relation to any team, not just the Browns, but any team that does not have that locked in solidified starting quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when you get a collar Murray might get cut from the cardinals that you're gonna hear about shit, the Browns go after collar Murray.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When, you know, Daniel Jones hasn't signed whatever with the Colts, should the Browns try to get down, like you're going to hear it, should the Browns trade for Anthony Richardson?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's requested to trade, you're going to hear about every single quarterback connected to the Browns.
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[SPEAKER_01]: until we finally have one in place, which leads me to why it's just such a freaking waste of time to mess around to Sean Watson this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I was talking with Justin about this the other day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, brother, we have got to get on a podcast meeting you together and just vent this whole dissonant because if you guys are nodding your heads and agreement with what I'm saying, man, wait till you hear what Justin says about the whole situation, we
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[SPEAKER_01]: early on in his tenure here in Cleveland because we just obviously we we invested so much in him and we believe the talent was still there and then it became apparent the talent was not there and then it was injury injury injury suck on the field just terrible quarterback play and we have been cap
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[SPEAKER_01]: hampered.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know we've been able to navigate and still make roster moves, but there's no doubt that we have been limited in making additional moves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, we lost out on three years of first-round picks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We did all of that for this guy to play 28% of his games for the Browns since he's been here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is freaking pathetic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is pathetic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So now we want to play him this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and the argument I see from, I don't know where all these people are coming from.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That all of a sudden are saying like, yeah, to Sean Watson needs to be the quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He can still be elite.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he's 10 times better than Shador.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I already proved it with the stats.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shador was better than to Sean Watson was the last time he started.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So in our most recent sample size from each guy, should door out perform to Sean Watson in every single metric, except for interceptions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the only one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it comes down to, well, you know, what if the Sean Watson plays good enough that he can be
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[SPEAKER_01]: Extended next year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Guys, just stop with the talking about him getting extended stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just not going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody was arguing with me on social media that because I said, there's no way he's going to be here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't see a world in which the Browns want to offer him an extension.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then even more than that, I don't see a world in which he agrees to sign it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You really think he wants to stay here?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Come on, got he didn't want to be here in the first place.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We gave him the biggest, most ridiculous contract in NFL history, so he took the contract.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He took the deal, came to Cleveland, didn't even, he did not want to be turned us down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Originally, he didn't want to be here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're going to franchise tag him and force him to be here when he doesn't want to be here anyway?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially because people when they say, well, franchise tag and we can keep them if we want them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know how the franchise tag and the money stuff works out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Browns currently have a $36 million cap hit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in twenty twenty seven.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For the Sean Watson, he will not be on the team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's no longer hit the physical person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Sean Watson is not under contract for twenty twenty seven.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He will not be on the roster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yet, there is a void year in his contract in twenty twenty seven.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's thirty six million dollar cap hit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: already.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He won't even be here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So then if you franchise tag him, the franchise tag right now for twenty twenty six is forty four million dollars for a quarter bag, which means next year it's probably going to be closer to fifty million forty six forty seven something like that, who knows?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just round up say fifty million dollar franchise tag.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to pay the guy eighty five million
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, not pay him 85, but you're going to take on $85 million of cap hit for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I see no point, I see no reason to keep screwing around with this guy, just it's done, it's over, can we, we got to get out from under this black cloud, this dark cloud that is Deshawn Watson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The only way to do that is to see what we have, wish to door Sanders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got a love it because social media is a nasty place to be if you guys are out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're part of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anytime it's, Deshawn Watson isn't a good quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We shouldn't be messing around with them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you should do her stand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you're your shoulder lover.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, all you guys do is glaze shoulder.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, guys, I've never once said that Shador Sanders is definitely the answer at quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We should sign him to an extension now like he's the long-term guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What I have always said is the only player on our roster with the potential to be the long-term answer is Shador Sanders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why it's like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: We need to know, can we please put them on the field and find out?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying it's going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It very likely won't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you just look at the history of the Browns quarterback situation back to 1999, the odds, your best bet would be to say he's not going to be the answer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't currently have the answer on the roster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But to say here and say, we definitely don't, after just seeing the kid play for seven games, that's ridiculous.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, come on, we need a bigger sample size.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We need to see what he's able to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, do players typically improve from year one to year two?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna go ahead and say, yes, they do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's see what the improvement is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've obviously improved the entire offense we added.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Boston and Concepcion, and we've improved the entire offensive line, revamped all of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're getting Quinn Sean back with Dylan Samson, a whole new coaching step.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully what we're praying for is a better offensive system.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kevin's was garbage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see what Monk can do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we're gonna waste all that and screw around on the final year to Sean Watson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he's a lame duck quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's, I just see no point in for all the people again out there that say, well, if you're Todd Munkin, you want the veteran quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He gives you the best chance to win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was one and six, the last time he started.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I understand the thought, I get, I get the idea.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The logic behind your veteran quarterback who is a former three-time pro-bola should give you the best chance to win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't believe this one does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the difference.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that type of player should be your best option at quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It should be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Your pain has got $230,000,000,000, $30,000,000, $3,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I told you guys I was fired up, I just can't not stand this conversation, but, you know, I'm high on the grounds for this year, I love what they did in the draft, I think they're doing great things with the roster right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This rebuild looks like it's going down a successful or a route that has the potential to be successful for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But at the quarterback position, man, it has just been a long,
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[SPEAKER_01]: repeated consistent track of making bad decisions, and we complain as Browns fans all the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Every year all all the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've done it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've done it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've heard people do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It has happened since 1999.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have enough patience with our rookie quarterbacks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We rush them on the field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and then we rush to replace them without really giving them a proper chance to develop on the field, to grow and show that they can be that guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are so many people in such a hurry now to do that again with Shador Sanders?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I don't get it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, I'm not saying he's the guy, I'm not saying he's gonna be the guy, the answer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I also can't sit here and tell you guys he's not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I need to know, I need to see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw enough last year on the field that Mimi said, there's something there, there's talent there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He made some throws.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He moved, he navigated the pocket.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He evaded pressure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he was playing behind a freaking practice squad offensive line you guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's thrown a UDFA practice squad receivers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was terrible last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My goodness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And out to disparage UDFAs, obviously they are a very important part of the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe the last time we checked it's been a couple years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the last time we looked at the numbers, it was like 30, 33% of the entire NFL is comprised of UDFA's.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there are a lot of six and seventh round draft picks who end up getting wave to get and cut during camp.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cause they, you know, teams just think they've got a full roster and a lot of six seventh round picks don't make the cut even then they're rookie year, especially going into year two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But a lot of guys come in out of the UDFA market.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And make teams because number one they're great special teams contributors, which I think we got some guys who could be some That that's where they could make their mark for the Browns.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna talk about some of these guys So 30% of the NFL give or take is made up of undrafted players
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[SPEAKER_01]: So who do the Browns get?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously we've had guys here in years past under Andrew Barry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've had the Anthony Bell Ronnie Hickman was a UDFA who made the team became a starter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Muhammad Diabody, the lineback, and we got, he's not here now, but we have Winston Reed who's still here out of Weber State.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see, I was two years ago, I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Trying to think of some other UDFA guys, Aiden Huntington, who, Edge, D-Line Guy, from last year, remember he played some fullback for us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Trying to think, gauge larva dan, the wider seaver who played a lot for the Browns last year because he had nobody else at wider seaver, there's UDFAs that come in here and contribute for the team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's talk about these guys who obviously I'm leaving the quarterback conversation you guys hope you realize I'm moving on moving on to the UDFA talk now I just can't stay fired up about this whole quarterback situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, first UDFA I want to talk about is probably the top guy on everybody's radar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: because his brother was our first round picks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to be talking about Logan Fano here, the edge rusher out of Utah, older brother of the ninth overall pick, Spencer Fano, who the Browns took on Thursday night a couple weeks ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this was a great, it's a great story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You get the two brothers together here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As soon as Logan Fano went undrafted, he was a name I was watching on day three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because of this, because of his brother being already drafted to us, and I'm thinking, okay, if this guy slips through, nobody takes him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Browns have a very good shot of signing him because I'm sure he'll want to sign to go to the team where his brother's going.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He played with his brother in college, and now here we go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're keeping the Fano brothers together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in Cleveland, so Logan Fano, six foot, five, two hundred and sixty pound, he's twenty three years older.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember Spencer, I believe, is twenty one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's a year and a half, two years older, and then his younger brother.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So after serving on a mission's trip in San Antonio in 2022, Logan went to BYU.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He read shirted there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His first season after suffering an ACL injury in the spring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 2023, Fano transferred to Utah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He played in five games, three starts at 14 tackles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Four TFL and three and a half sacks in five games for the youth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So pretty impressive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, when I was looking through his career numbers and his yearly breakdown, limited action that year, just five games only started three of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he still managed to rack up three and a half sacks for TFL and 14 tackles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was actually pretty impressive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 2024 he played in all 12 games that season 35 tackles 7 TFLs and 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 2 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 1 2 2
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[SPEAKER_01]: at Utah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I'm not just excited to talk about Logan Fano here because he's Spencer's older brother.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a cool story, but it goes beyond that for me, edge rusher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The defensive end position for the Cleveland Browns.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like there are some more casual fans out there, not you guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking, whenever we're not going to talk about casual fans and people, I'm not talking about you guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys know this stuff because you watch the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Edge rusher is a position where we don't have
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[SPEAKER_01]: We really don't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you remember, we lost out on signing AJP Nessa from the Bills and Free Agency due to a failed physical.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we have not added any other edge rusher in free agency or we didn't take any in the draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So right now our depth chart behind, obviously you got Miles Garrett, you got the greatest past rusher edge rusher in the entire NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the best in history, okay, that's cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's on your team after that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Alex Wright, Isaiah McGuire,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that really it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we have Aiden Huntington who I mentioned earlier.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a former UDFA.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not like a pure edge rush.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of just like a moved-around D-line guy, but I wouldn't call him a high-end player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't call Isaiah McGuire a high-end player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I'd call Alex Wright a high-end player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Alex Wright is a good base level starter at the edge position, but that's
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's probably the best I can say for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not trying to knock him down or anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, he's not, I mean, if you guys disagree, let me know in the comments, but I think he's just, he's a jag.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just a guy, which is fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The NFL has made up a jagues.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not every guy can be a pro ball pro level talent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm talking about the depth on this thing, the depth on the edge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's not a lot there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What if something were to happen to Miles?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or Alex Wright, which has happened several seasons now in his career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's missed a lot of time over his rookie contract with injuries.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What if something happens to Alex Wright?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now you're like, OK, it's Isaiah McGuire.
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[SPEAKER_01]: a numbington.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We had nobody else on the roster at the edge position.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Logan, Fano and the next guy I'm going to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very interested to watch these two players and we'll talk about the next guy obviously here in a minute.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But these first two guys, I'm very excited to hear about what they do at many camp this weekend and throw TAs and throw out the summer because they both play the edge position a position that the Browns really do need some depth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's an opportunity here for one or maybe even both of these guys to stick on the roster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and become part of the team when the Final 53 is cut down in September, so that the two final brothers may very well be members of the Cleveland Browns Final 53 when it's all said and done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if we go look at Spencer or not Spencer, see, there we go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Go look at Logan Fano scouting report.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It actually does read like a player who could have some sneaky upside of things, just, you know, things go the right way if he shows out over the summer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was initially projected as a day three pick in rounds five or six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the Browns got him as a UDFA.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like there was some value there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got the pro level size, the pro level strength.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that teams look for.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He can play the edge standing up or with a hand in the dirt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's got versatility.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's touted for his high motor, though scouting report says his urgency sometimes gets him moving too quickly and it can open him up to missing counters and misdirection plays.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's definitely a strong run defender.
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[SPEAKER_01]: based on everything I've read about him, but he needs to expand his past rushing arsenal if he really ever wants to be like a three-down edgerusher edge defender in the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this could be a guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If he sticks on the roster, he's going to come in early downs, rotate around whenever there's going to be, you know, we're anticipating more run plays in a series, but whenever it's definitely a passing down, he's probably not going to be rushing off of the edge at least to begin his career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But they say in the reports that Logan Fano is going to be a guy who shines on special teams right away, which is something we love to hear because that as the UDFA's, you look at any of these guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bell, Hickman, Diabody, Reed, where did they get onto the roster and eventually they rotated in on defense or wherever their position was?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Special teams get you on to the roster when you're a UDFA.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's great to hear about Logan Fauna.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I like the upside there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very excited that the Browns were able to sign Spencer's older brother.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The next guy at the Edge position is Tyreeksap out of Florida.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I'm pretty sure that Tyreeksap was in my first mock draft that I did for the Browns this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I had the Browns taking him with one of their final picks in the draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was already familiar with the player familiar with the name and the scouting report.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was exciting to see that we were able to sign him as a UDFA.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Six foot to 270 pounds, 23 years old.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tyrexapy did have a down year in 2025 after having pretty strong season in 2024.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in 2024.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 46 tackles, 13 TFLs and seven sacks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is not too shabby right there for this kid in 2024 now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It all dipped his production in 2025, 34 tackles just four TFLs down from 13 just one sack down from seven.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So why did he slide through the draft into the UDF?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well again, the
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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw reports where this guy after the 2024 season was projected as either, I mean definitely like a day two type guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: coming out of the 2024 into 2025, and then obviously 2025 his, his draft stock just tanked way down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But scouting reports tout his power, his anger, and his upper body strength.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't have the short area quickness to change directions and pursue tackles in the open field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Scouts think that his best route to an NFL roster would be adding some more mass and actually moving inside to defensive tackle, which I thought, okay, that's interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There could be a path
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[SPEAKER_01]: to be an Aden Huntington type where he can play off the edge sometimes, but he's also big enough and he's put on the weight to hold down his own in the middle of the defensive line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Three-year starter Florida, like I said, huge production in 2024.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was excited, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was really excited when I saw that the Brown Sign Tyrex app as a UDFA.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, let's stick to the same position here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The first two edge rusters, obviously, those are the guys I'm excited about, I'm really watching.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We did sign another edge rusher, Corday Snyder, out of Vanderbilt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Six foot four, 265 pounds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Snyder started his career at Purdue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Got his first playing time as a sophomore in 2022.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He put up 22 tackles, seven TFLs and four and a half sacks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 2023 he had just five tackles in ten games with two sacks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not really sure what happened there in 2023.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't find any information.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But whatever the production was way down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 2024.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's when he transferred to Vanderbilt posted 14 tackles, seven tackles for loss and four sacks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 2025.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Best season that he had in college football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 30 tackles, nine TFLs and three and a half sacks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So
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[SPEAKER_01]: To me, Snyder feels like a very rotational depth piece type of player if he can make the cut in the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's probably more of a past-rush specialist kind of the opposite of Tyrexat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This doesn't seem to be a guy who's got big tackle numbers, but he does have strong TFLs and sack number.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's good at getting behind the line of screaming and getting guys down in the back field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At one point in his career, he was talked about as a top 100 pick in the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did find that
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[SPEAKER_01]: a point where he was be his talent and level and everything had him touted as a top 100 pick in the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I would have been a, you know, round three pick probably.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like a lot of these guys, just not a ton of readily available information.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so if you guys have more information about him or any of the UDFA's that I'm talking about here today, if I'm overlooking something missing something that you know, I know I love it when I see the comments about a guy
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know the brown sign this guy and here's what they're you know the information about him and then I see a common works Like hey, Josh Mo went to my high school or he played football with my cousin and here's a little inside scoop like that that stuff is so cool I love hearing those things so if you got any of that stuff guys out there guys and gals I'm sorry when I say guys I mean guys and gals you know that but
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me know, put it in the comments.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The last player that we added on our defensive line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we got Fono, we got Sap, we got Snyder, and then D-Line defensive tackle, we added Bernard Goodin out of LSU.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This guy is six foot one, 280 pounds, started career at Wake Forest, moved to South Florida, ended his career at LSU in 2025.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 2024 season at South Florida's the one that pops off the tape.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 35 tackles, 10 tackles for loss and one and a half sex.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Another guy who's production dipped in 2025 when he transferred to LSU and the SEC 24 tackles, 4 TFLs, and 2 SACS.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I feel like the Browns added some decent potential options on the defensive line through the UDFA market.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, let's talk about another guy I'm really excited about here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know a lot of the the analysts and people that break down the tape for the Browns and things like that are excited about this kid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's another position we really need, depth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, defensive end, need depth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Where else do we really need depth?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And just like defensive end, we did not address in the draft, corner back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Specifically, like Kenny Mac has been harping on for months and months and months.
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[SPEAKER_01]: nickel corner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we've got Michael Coats, Jr., the corner back out of West Virginia, five foot nine, 185 pounds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So kind of a smaller guy, but 24 years old and he's actually going to be 25 before the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's an older prospect.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Take everything else off the board.
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[SPEAKER_01]: his lack of size and his age, or to probably made him a UDFA candidate regardless of anything else that he did in college.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you are undersized for the position and you're that old, you're probably not getting drafted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, Michael Coates, he's a Jukeau transfer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He started East Central Community College in 2020 played there until 2022.
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[SPEAKER_01]: transferred to Nevada in 2023, where he played in a backup role in 2024.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He led Nevada with four interceptions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had 41 tackles in 13 pass breakups, big numbers there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He earned first team all Mountain West ranked third in the FBS with 1.3 passes defended per game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's pretty impressive right there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In 2025, he transferred to West Virginia where he led the team with seven past breakups, had 30 tackles for that mountain near defense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I can't say mountaineers, my my five year old steps on loves to screw with me because he knows I I went to a Ohio State.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's where his mom went.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We we met at Ohio State where we were buck eyes through and
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he loves to come around because his biological dad is a West Virginia fan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And my Knoxville come around and you're saying, go mountaineers, let's go mountaineers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, I can't take it with this kid in this mountaineer's bull crab.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, that's just a little personal insight there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got mountaineer going on here in the household.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I guess it's better than Wolverines.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank goodness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody around here is a Wolverine's fan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that there's Michigan fans at watches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just, I'm just messing with you guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, back to Michael Coats, Jr., the production in Nevada and at West Virginia these last two seasons, it's definitely worth looking at.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, I keep talking about he's really undersized for the corner position, five, nine, one, 85, he's not a big dude, but.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What makes him exciting as a prospect that the Brown signed as a UDFA?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is scrappy, he is a fighter, and he does not back down from physicality or competition.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Scouting reports says that coach has good speed, he's got quick feet, strong instincts in both man and in zone coverage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now his lack of size did lead to some penalties on some downfield passes because obviously he can't contend at the high point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he would resort to moves that were past interference in order to stop some of those downfield completions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But this is what I was talking about with the nickel thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The scouter reports all say like moving codes inside the defensive backfield to the nickel position would be the best move for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just like Kenny Maxwell's saying, guess what the Brown's need and did not a draft, nickel corner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So who knows, maybe Michael Coats can stick on the roster, actually contribute in that capacity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's an opportunity there for that position.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this guy has the potential to fill it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm watching Michael Coats very closely as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: during these mini camps in the office, you know, the summer trainings and all that kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They say that his tape is solid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's why it's very encouraging for his outlook this summer to compete, like I said, or in that spot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's, that's Michael Codes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I totally get why people are excited for this signing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think out of all the UDFA's codes probably has the top odds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: of making the rosters long as it's competitive nature and is natural covering skills all translate into camp and the preseason.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Three of these guys that I've already talked about are guys that we really do need to keep our eyes and ears open about, you know, reports and information coming out from camp for Logan Fano, for Tyreaks app,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we can throw, you know, a snider and good and in there as well, but those first two guys, especially for me, and then definitely Michael Coats, Jr. here out of West Virginia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, just that take a quick break there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was got a message on discord from Brad money maker again get in the discord guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We communicate with each other all the time and obviously I'm recording.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not combing through Twitter looking to the news, but the Browns have announced that J.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay has been placed on reserve PUP for the second straight season, meaning he will not be playing once again for the second straight season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shut him down for the year already.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that sucks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that sucks here is rookie mini camp gets underway but we know it I mean we were not expecting obviously at least anyone on this show to see J.O.K.
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[SPEAKER_01]: play in this year and honestly they ever play again this neck injury is just it's two severe it's two serious still sucks one of our favorite players and man what a what an unfortunate injury that whole situation has turned out to be
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, another thing, just got another notification here that the Browns have signed 12 of their UDFA's and Michael Codes Junior is not on the list, so that's wonderful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, man, of course this would come out right in the middle of me putting this episode together for you guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me see if I've talked about anybody so far who didn't make the list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, of course, Michael Codes Junior is not on the list of guys that they have signed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, that does not mean that they won't sign him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have no idea how this all works out, but that kind of sucks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess keep your eyes open for Michael Coats.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll try to keep you guys updated on social media as the weekend goes along.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We get more information about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the next guy, obviously Coats wasn't the only corner back that the Brown Signs so this guy is on this list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got D-Car Lowe's Nicholson corner back out of USC.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's talk about him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Six foot three, 200 pounds, 24 years old.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's older, like Coats is, but he's also the opposite.
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[SPEAKER_01]: of coach from a size perspective.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's big, long heavier built corner back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's also a Jukeau player started a Mississippi golf community college.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nicholson was a quarterback QB in high school and he played QB as first season in college made the switch to corner back the next season in 2021.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then he transferred in 2022.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It says he committed to Mississippi State.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then he decommitted and committed to Kentucky.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then he decommitted and recommitted to Mississippi
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[SPEAKER_01]: a lot of bouncing around there, not really sure what the whole story was, but either way, he didn't do much in 2022 and Mississippi State, but 2023, he played a key role on their defense, 42 tackles two TFLs into past breakups.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then after two years of Mississippi State, he transferred to USC.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 2024 was okay, but 2025 is where we saw a big improvement from a stat sheet perspective, 42 tackles four past breakups, a TFL in a sack, and his first and only career interception.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So here we go, D Carlos Nicholson, another guy, there's not a ton of information on basic scouting notes that I'm able to find, say he's a physical corner with that size and his length helps him be effective in coverage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's played in multiple defensive systems in color, so he showcased some versatility in the defensive backfield.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Overall, Browns added a guy who has experienced in both the SEC and the Big 10 with good pro-sized good physicality, so it's definitely a worthwhile dart throw in the UDFA market to see what this young man can do over the summer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Next corner back neat Evans out of Delaware 6 foot 172 pounds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So a tall guy, but rangey corner back 172 very thin for a six foot tall corner back 2021 to 22.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He spent at NC state didn't really play the next that line that I could find two or is from 2025 So I need to figure out really what what happened in 23 and 24.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know you leave college.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have something else going on, but either way in 2025
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[SPEAKER_01]: played every game for Delaware with 38 tackles of tackle for loss, one sack, eight passbreakups and three interceptions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's round out the defensive backfield UDFA's here with a couple of safeties that the Brown signed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's round out the defensive backfield here with a safety the Brown signed as a UDFA.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now originally there were two guys that I had listed for the Browns after the draft that they signed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They signed Parker Robertson from
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[SPEAKER_01]: officially signed UDFA.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not going to talk about him yet until I see his name pop through.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to make another Michael Coats junior mistake who I really do hope the whole Michael Coats thing is just maybe they're negotiating more contract stuff than these other guys kind of like with that, you know, Isaiah Bond got a three year UDFA deal, but it was fully guaranteed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was just a more lucrative deal because he was a higher priority UDFA for the Browns and just your normal guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe there's something different going on there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But either way, the safety on the list here, Zion, Washington, out of Boise State.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Six foot two, 210 pounds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He played all five seasons in college at Boise State, didn't play on the field in the first two years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then in 2023, 32 tackles, 3 TFLs and a sack, 2024 and 2025 were very strong seasons, 67 and 66 tackles respectively.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had four tackle for loss 3TFLs, respectively, and he had an interception over the course of those two seasons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the Browns obviously got extremely fortunate that Emmanuel McNill Warren fell during the draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were able to trade up, get him at 58, still freaking unbelievable to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But defensive back was an area of need, especially for death behind your starters, Denzel Ward, Tyson Campbell at the corner positions, Grant Delpit, we're still not committed yet with Ronnie Hickman hasn't signed his tender.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Outside of EMW, we did not address defensive backfield corner or safety in the draft, but I definitely think, again, I hope I don't know what's going on with Michael Coates.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll try to figure that out for you guys, but he would be a guy I'd want to watch this summer if we sign him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we added obviously these two other cornerbacks, decarulous nickel
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's shift to the other side of the ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The D or the offensive UDFA is that we signed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, the Browns added three offensive linemen in the draft with Spencer Fano, Austin Barber, and Parker Brailsford, but we brought one more guy to the team as a UDFA.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is, Xavier Miller, the offensive tackle out of Auburn.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Another dude, not a lot of information out there in terms of comprehensive scouting reports.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's six foot five, three hundred and five pounds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's listed as a guard on PFF.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I looked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He split time at right guard, right tackle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But most of his snaps in college were played at the right tackle spot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Looks like he was a three year starter for Auburn, 2025, the guy played 239 pass blocking snaps allowed, 14 pressures, just one quarter back hit and only two sacks given up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The quarter back hit in 2025 was actually the only cube hit he surrendered in all a college in his career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, Xavier Miller, he'll compete for a depth spot on the offensive line, which is suddenly quite deep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, Andrew Barry again, got to commend him for what he was able to do, rebuilding that unit this off season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, another major area of need, this off season was obviously wide receiver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We did nothing, leading up to the draft at that position, other than adding Tillon Wallace, which he's only caught like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: when he passes in five years or something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, till and while it's not of a legitimate addition to the Widersever room, but we took two guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We took KC Concepts, the only took Denzel Boston.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Two first round prospects at the Widersever position and then AB after the draft added three more UDFA's to the wide outs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So obviously, me and Kenny Mac mentioned him the other day on our episode, it's probably the wider receiver that people are the most excited about that the Brown signed and he's actually not on the list of guys that the Browns actually came out and announced they have signed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm hoping there's just more contracting negotiating going on with this guy than
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[SPEAKER_01]: And some of these other ones, but we're going to talk about him anyway because the Browns did initially sign him or at least add him as a UDFA to the roster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's Aaron Anderson out of LSU, so another LSU tiger as a UDFA.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, five foot, eight, one hundred and ninety pounds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is a short receiver, but he's definitely put together and well built at 190 pounds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Red shirted at Alabama, his freshman year, transferred to LSU in 2023, had his big break out year in 2024 had 61 receptions for 884 yards and 5 touchdowns he actually led LSU in receptions that season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then this past year in 2025, 33 catches 398 yards, no touchdowns, 2025 was marred by a knee injury and poor quarterback play at LSU.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Aaron Anderson does not offer much in the return game by way of experience.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't mean he can't do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: LSU just didn't ask him to do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He only had one punt return, six total kick returns in his college career, though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He did take one kick back to the house.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Scouting report wise, Aaron Anderson has good top end speed, runs good routes from the slot, strong player over the middle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He does not shy away from contact.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His small size is going to limit him, his pass or his blocking is not up to standards and he has struggled with some drops over his career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see if Aaron Anderson won, becomes one of these officially signed guys by the Browns, maybe he's not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have no idea.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if he does, maybe we'll see if can he make a splash in camp over the summer, can he push somebody like Jamari Thresh off the roster, off the practice squad, wherever Anderson might land.
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[SPEAKER_01]: if he has signed and if he does make the cut.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we signed two other guys at wider seaver outside of Anderson and only one of them is actually on this official list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'll talk about both of them just to give you guys the names that were initially out about these UDFAs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The first one, Janeal and Dupree from Jackson State, and the other guys Cole Wilson from Baylor, Cole Wilson is the only one on the official list here from the Browns.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But Janeal and Dupree, another small guy, much smaller actually than Anderson, he's listed at 5-8-1-60, so we're a halider than Aaron Anderson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dupree caught 52 passes in two seasons at Jackson State, racked up about 866 yards, 11 touchdowns.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, he did a little bit more punt and kick returning than Anderson, but still not a time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting note.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His grandfather is Marcus Dupri who played for the Rams in 1990 and 1991.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's really all I had for Janaylan Dupri whether or not he ends up being an officially signed guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or not Cole Wilson on the other hand is on this list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's also a smaller guy, five nine one seventy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Played at Texas State from 2023 to 2024, transferred to Baylor for the 2025 season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cole Wilson popped off as a sophomore 66 reception 747 yards and eight touchdowns.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Last year at Baylor, he had 44 receptions, 591 yards and five touchdowns.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely the most college production of any of these wider severs that I've talked about at the Browns signed after the draft as UDFAs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, basically for all these guys, what they're going to do, they're going to come in here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to fill some spots during rookie minicam during the OTAs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to fight for spots on the practice squad with other guys like Caden Davis, Luke Floria, Gage Larva, Dan Jamari, Thresh, these guys who were roster public guys last year, UDFA signings, all that kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, finally, on the offensive side, the ball of the Browns have added two running backs, which I am actually, well, let me double check here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, they are both listed on, okay, so we can definitely talk about both these guys, because they're on the official list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I wish I were to gotten the list before to put my notes together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But either way, we got a little extra bonus content in here, but the first guy,
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[SPEAKER_01]: That I want to talk about is, and I don't, I'm not representing sure how to say his name and see their Devon or Daven.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to say Devon, Devon Booth from Mississippi State, 5 foot, 892 pounds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, Booth kind of lacks the ideal size for an NFL running back, but, you know, we have seen some smaller body guys find ways to contribute on passing downs and things like that, special teams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The kid has decent speed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got good vision running the ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He started his career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, serritos.
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[SPEAKER_01]: CERITOS community college, wherever that is, transferred to Utah State after two seasons there, then he transferred to Mississippi State for his final two seasons in college.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's an older prospect, he actually had a massive season in 2023 at Utah State.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Carried the ball, 120 times for 800 and 5 yards, 6 touchdowns, 6.7 yards per carry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At Mississippi State, he had about 150 or so carries each of those two seasons, had 760 yards in 2025, 553 in 2025, I'm sorry, 760 yards in 2024, put up 553 in 2025, he compiled 380 receiving yards and six touchdowns throughout college to go with 18 total career rushing touchdowns.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Finally, the last guy we're going to talk about here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: T. J.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Harden the running back out of SMU.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here you go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's your more prototypical.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bigger body size running back six foot to 220 pounds of much younger than Davon Booth 22 years old here for TJ Harden played his first three years at UCLA and then he finished out his career at SMU had just shy of 500 career carries 2,445 total career yards and scored 21 touchdowns in college.
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[SPEAKER_01]: TJ Harden, it'll be an interesting one to watch because we've been talking about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Quenchon Judkins is going to be, it's going to be a slow, it's going to be slow out the gate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How slow?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a young guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's 21, 22 years old coming off that injury.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's going to heal better than a 26 or 27 year old running back will.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's still his injury was something that we've seen constant examples in the NFL where
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, you don't get back up to 100% full speed and capacity until maybe later in that first season back off the injury.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to, we're going to need some rotation to spell Quinn Sean and to get a little bit more production.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, he's getting back up to speed to start the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: obviously Dylan Samson there, but he's not your big body bruising back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We like rocket Sanders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: TJ Harden would be another guy this summer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very interested to see how it goes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a physical downhill runner, not a speedster, more of a one cut back, but scouts love how he improved his past protection and his receiving skills during his senior season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So those two notes right there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, that could be very good for the browns.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that could be
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[SPEAKER_01]: If he really does show that he is fully capable in past protection and also in the receiving game as a spell tight back for Quinshan Juck.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we will see, I'm just going to take a quick quick quick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: a quick peek at my list here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So talked about all these guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We did sign a punter West Paul from I want to say he was from Oklahoma State.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We signed I think a kicker and a long snapper after the draft as well as UDFA's.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't put that in here because those are just specialty positions you're going to get in here during the summer because you
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[SPEAKER_01]: We obviously were only going to have one long snapper, one punner and one kicker on the roster for the season, but you're going to need multiple of those guys for camp to run your drills and your practices and things like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't just have one punner, one, again, to have a couple different guys in here running through the motions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So
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[SPEAKER_01]: we signed those guys as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But other than that, that is your UDFA list for the Cleveland Browns, the official guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously Logan Fano, Tyreeksap, Corday or Corday Snyder, and then Bernard Gooden, and then those are your defensive line guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cornerback, Nate, Evans, D. Carlos, Nicholson, really, really keeping my eyes open here to find what's going all with Michael Coates Jr. because he's the one I was the most excited about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you got safety Zion, Washington as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Flip it over to the offensive side of the ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about the only offensive lineman we signed was Ezevian Miller, out of Auburn guard tackle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He can kind of play those positions both.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Neal, no one on this list of why the receiver was Cole Wilson, but Aaron Anderson will be another name to try to figure out what the deal is with that signing as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: there's your UDFA prospects get ready for the weekend guys I hope you enjoyed the episode I hope you enjoyed the content let me know if you've got any more information from these guys that I didn't cover or didn't present and I love hearing from you guys in the comments and enjoy your weekend again happy mothers day to all the moms out there if you've got a mom you got a wife who's a great mom make sure you let them know make sure you I tell my wife all the time and I'm not just blowing smoke she is the absolute best mother
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