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Headless' Magical Mailbag- Trifacial Jesus and More · The Occult Rejects

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  Speaker 1: You see something's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: What what's gonna happen?
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  Speaker 3: I'll take what.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome everybody, and uh happy to have you. I
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  Speaker 1: got my co host Nick with me and a special
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  Speaker 1: guest Manchion Rollers. Welcome everybody and tell them where they
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  Speaker 1: Indeed, indeed, well, welcome back, Manchine. We talk about mounds
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  Speaker 1: all the time with you, and you said that you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be going back out there and doing a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of mound discoveries.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm gonna go found a few places I
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  Speaker 3: want to check out. I've found online are I started
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  Speaker 3: getting using grock to compare it to known mound sites
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  Speaker 3: and let me know, and then it actually sometimes says, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: this ain't a mount. So once pretty large and it's
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  Speaker 3: by the Lusa Atchie River, and I have permission to
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  Speaker 3: get on that property. So I'm planning to go there
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  Speaker 3: as soon as deer season ends, which is Sunday, all right, So.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to be getting more mound stuff, which is
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  Speaker 1: great as we get into spring. I want all of
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  Speaker 1: my followers to go out there and at least visit
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  Speaker 1: one mound, have a transformative experience. Go out there and
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  Speaker 1: just have a picnic, do something, you know, have fun outside,
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  Speaker 1: go to a mount, see if anything happens.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to try to hit up Prometheus and
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  Speaker 2: actually hit a few mounds with him this summer spring. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't care if I got to go
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  Speaker 2: close to him to do it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't give a shit, right right, you got the drones.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, between me and him, we actually have
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  Speaker 2: a fuck ton of decent recording equipment. For real. We
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  Speaker 2: could do probably some real good work together.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, I can't wait.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, drums would be very handy and mound searching in
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  Speaker 3: some of these areas for sure.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it was weird when I was with Shami.
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  Speaker 2: You know you met him at a yeah, Jason, Yeah, Jason.
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  Speaker 2: When I went down to that Morse Preserved place that
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  Speaker 2: he took me to, that was the fucking shit. There
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  Speaker 2: was weird as hell. There was a bunch of mounds,
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  Speaker 2: but like they were, they were repurposing a golf course,
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  Speaker 2: and I wanted to go record them with the drone. Dude.
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  Speaker 2: It was the craziest shit. I even showed him on
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  Speaker 2: the fucking screen. It was bugging me out normally, like
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  Speaker 2: if I have a problem with the drone, like if
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  Speaker 2: it's going too far, we'll start to tell you like
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  Speaker 2: fucked up signal, you know it's going too far. Whatever,
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  Speaker 2: And like I was flying across the water to get
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  Speaker 2: to the golf course next door. And I mean, you
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  Speaker 2: can almost go a mile with these fucking things too,
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  Speaker 2: depending on like you know, how high up and what's
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  Speaker 2: going on. And it really wasn't that far. As soon
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  Speaker 2: as I got close to the golf course, all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden, it would just stop. I have my finger
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  Speaker 2: pressed on the thing to keep going forward, and it's
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  Speaker 2: not going anywhere. And then I back up, backs up, fine,
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  Speaker 2: goes to the sides, okay, But as soon as I
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  Speaker 2: want to go forward, it's like it was like there
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  Speaker 2: was an invisible fucking net or something. Dude, and I
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  Speaker 2: was showing him. I was like, yo, I can't even
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  Speaker 2: go over the fucking golf course. It won't even the
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  Speaker 2: fucking thing won't even move. It was really weird because
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  Speaker 2: nobody they'll even tell you, Like when I was doing
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  Speaker 2: it over that place in Florida. Fuck, I forgot that
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  Speaker 2: Coral Castle. There was a couple of times, right, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if there was like something else over there.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it was theirs, but I had like
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  Speaker 2: something where it would like tell you that there's like
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  Speaker 2: some kind of interference possibly with the signal, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and they're trying to block it so you can't fly
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  Speaker 2: a drone over. It wasn't even getting that with the
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  Speaker 2: golf course. It just was like some like fucking invisible barrier.
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  Speaker 2: It was the weirdest shit I've ever seen with my drone.
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  Speaker 2: Oh this is interesting. I wanted to get drones on
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  Speaker 2: film and I wouldn't allow me. I mean, I wanted
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  Speaker 2: to get mounds on film, and it went on me.
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  Speaker 1: Right. So, geo fencing is the act of taking your
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  Speaker 1: property on the GPS filters that they use and all
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  Speaker 1: of these different drones and everything else, and then making
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  Speaker 1: that a program so that people who enter or exit,
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  Speaker 1: you know, their their cell phones get tracked and all
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  Speaker 1: the rest of that stuff. So basically, you're writing programs
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  Speaker 1: on the GPS overlay so that people can't do certain
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  Speaker 1: things in those areas if they're hooked up to the Internet.
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  Speaker 1: Which is kind of scary because what they had was
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  Speaker 1: after October seventh is they started geo fencing all of
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  Speaker 1: these evangelical churches and sending targeted ads specifically to people
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  Speaker 1: who are coming out of church or going into church,
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  Speaker 1: with pro Israel ads on Facebook and Twitter and everything else.
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  Speaker 1: So they're using this stuff with advertising right now, so
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  Speaker 1: it wouldn't be too hard for them to expand into
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  Speaker 1: manipulating drones and all the rest of that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't doubt that.
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  Speaker 3: But also there could be a plasma moment to it,
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  Speaker 3: you know those sorts of energy fields too. I know
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  Speaker 3: this excavated mound site I found. I'm pretty sure that's
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  Speaker 3: what it is. There was a guy in the area
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  Speaker 3: who was doing that. But in this area there's almost
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  Speaker 3: no trees because they've all been struck by lightning. There's
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  Speaker 3: tons of lightning struck wood laying on the ground around
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  Speaker 3: these things. So it could be electromagnetic too.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, there have been so many different electromagnetic phenomena documented
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  Speaker 1: around mound sites. It's incredible. So you're talking about double one.
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  Speaker 1: You never know who's doing it. But uh, we got
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  Speaker 1: some symbols today in honor of Callans as they call it.
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  Speaker 1: I brought up good old Jude.
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  Speaker 2: What was the odds of us? WHOA that is fucking weird.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, Well, it is Callens. It's New Year's Day.
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  Speaker 2: No, I just think it's wild. How like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you picked a two face god and I picked a
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  Speaker 2: three face? Got it? We never really, not all the
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  Speaker 2: time did we tell each other we're recovering.
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  Speaker 1: No. I figured this was obvious because he is the
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  Speaker 1: god of January first, like this is his day. So
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  Speaker 1: for me it was an obvious stress. But I don't
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  Speaker 1: know why you picked the three face Jesus just a preview.
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  Speaker 1: Let me show show the people here, that's Janice and
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  Speaker 1: this is three face Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: Triaci Jesus.
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  Speaker 1: Got there's a definite connection there. So yet, Janis is
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  Speaker 1: one of the most interesting of the Roman gods. He
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  Speaker 1: doesn't get a lot of play in the mainstream, but
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  Speaker 1: you could see it's kind of like a young man
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  Speaker 1: and an old man. Or in some cases you've got
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  Speaker 1: this uh Zeus, zeusimone right, this mixture of Zeus in
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  Speaker 1: al mon Rah as the other face right. But sometimes
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  Speaker 1: they're identical, sometimes they're different. The idea of Janis is
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  Speaker 1: that he is the keeper of doorways, the liminal space,
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  Speaker 1: moving from one space to the other. He's sort of
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  Speaker 1: like the thing that exists between the thing itself, and
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  Speaker 1: so there are so many different depictions of Janus it's unreal.
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  Speaker 1: But it seems like a lot of people just sort
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  Speaker 1: of take it as a given. Nowadays, I think there's
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  Speaker 1: like a financial institution that uses this as their logo.
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  Speaker 1: But other than that, people just seem to have forgotten
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  Speaker 1: about Janus. But this was when it came to war
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  Speaker 1: and peace. For Rome, the temple of Janus was supreme.
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  Speaker 1: So as long as the doors of the Janis temple
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  Speaker 1: were closed, Rome was at war, and there was only
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  Speaker 1: a very short time period that the doors were wide
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  Speaker 1: open when they were in peace. So Janis was very
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  Speaker 1: much seen as the god of the symbols.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: So when you're talking about symbols representing the liminal space
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  Speaker 1: going from one state to the other, usually you associate
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  Speaker 1: that with some sort of a symbol, something that was
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  Speaker 1: going on around you at the time that would be
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  Speaker 1: more of a Janus type energy. So the idea of
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  Speaker 1: symbols themselves, I think come through this Janus entity pretty well.
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  Speaker 1: So a symbol comes from the Greek word symbolos, which
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  Speaker 1: means this a piece of pottery, right, And this is
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  Speaker 1: how they would do their piece treaties, is they would
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  Speaker 1: break a pot and that all people who signed on
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  Speaker 1: to the treaty would have a piece of that pot,
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  Speaker 1: so that if they ever needed to they could fit
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  Speaker 1: it back together again. And that's where we get the
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  Speaker 1: term symbol from from symbolos these pieces of shards of pottery.
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  Speaker 1: So if you think about it, these are the two
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  Speaker 1: symbols coming together in the liminal space between them, right,
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  Speaker 1: And that's sort of a Janey idea. And also there's
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  Speaker 1: so many symbols associated with Janus it's just incredible. If
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  Speaker 1: you look up his total list of like all of
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  Speaker 1: his associations, it's it's a lot, like we're talking forty
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  Speaker 1: or fifty pages of just symbols that represent Janis. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's all the limals space.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead, I know he shows up online two and
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  Speaker 2: seventeen in seven seven seven, right, yeah, right, I'll put
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  Speaker 2: that back up if you don't mind, know yours your thing?
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  Speaker 2: I want to I want to talk on it. Put
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  Speaker 2: on the one with the horn please. One thing I
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  Speaker 2: did want to add before you pull it up. Janice.
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  Speaker 2: Also Janitor comes from that, and what is he? He's
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  Speaker 2: got the keys to all the fucking doors in the
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  Speaker 2: bill place. Janice also comes from a Yankees Yankees I'm
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  Speaker 2: sorry Yankees, New York Yankees. I don't remember exactly the
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  Speaker 2: words anymore, but yank And then chaos is Kate kas
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  Speaker 2: like k A y e s. Basically Yankees the New
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  Speaker 2: York Yankees is two different ways of saying Janie put together,
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  Speaker 2: which is the weirdest thing. So basically Janice really is
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  Speaker 2: the New York Yankees. Yeah, yeah, I think it's even
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  Speaker 2: like Danish or something. It was just like kas, which
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  Speaker 2: goes back to even like the Keys whatever or something
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  Speaker 2: like that. And then, uh, I forgot the first word.
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  Speaker 2: But I know it sounds a little silly, but if
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  Speaker 2: you look in to it, Yankees is actually two different
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  Speaker 2: words of Janus put together. Now the go ahead, there
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  Speaker 2: was a with Latin.
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  Speaker 1: There after they got away from the Latin, all of
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  Speaker 1: the j's shifted to I I to J shift happened,
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  Speaker 1: and so this J to I shift changes the Janus
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  Speaker 1: to the Yankees, right, So there's a lot of that
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  Speaker 1: happening with with the Latin and that linguistic shift right there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I could see it.
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  Speaker 2: And then with the horn, I just wanted to mention
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  Speaker 2: that does look a little bit like that is considered
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  Speaker 2: Amon's horn. Now you also call the hippocampus is also
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  Speaker 2: called the Amon's horn as well, and it would kind
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  Speaker 2: of be around in that area of the brain like
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  Speaker 2: a little bit a little bit more down, kind of
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  Speaker 2: shaped a little bit like that. And one thing I
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  Speaker 2: do want to mention about Amon's horn. This is just
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  Speaker 2: a guess I besides all the reasons, I do think
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  Speaker 2: that when people throw that up they are representing fire
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  Speaker 2: plenty of other things, but I do question when they
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  Speaker 2: put it up around here at the front of the head,
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  Speaker 2: the Amon's horn, instead of like every other cellular structure
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  Speaker 2: in your body, that's hexag you know hexagon, That one's triangular.
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  Speaker 2: M So, I mean, I don't know whatever. I have
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  Speaker 2: said that before in a situation and a person seemed
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  Speaker 2: to like take me as serious, like when I was
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  Speaker 2: I think I had mentioned on the show when I
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  Speaker 2: was in Canada trying to get into Canada and they're
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  Speaker 2: fucking with me on the border and they're tearing my
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  Speaker 2: car apart and like fucking drug sniffing dogs. I'm just
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  Speaker 2: talking mad shit to these motherfuckers because I know I
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  Speaker 2: have nothing to get in trouble for, So if you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna waste my time, I'm gonna make it fucking really
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  Speaker 2: annoying for you, you know. And at one point I
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  Speaker 2: was actually getting frustrated. I was like, Yo, is there
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  Speaker 2: any fun. I was like, Yo, you got a fucking
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  Speaker 2: freemason of somebody in here that I can throw up
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  Speaker 2: some fucking handstarting to say some dumb shit too to
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  Speaker 2: get me the fuck out of here. And then I
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  Speaker 2: started going on about the triangle symbol, the fucking scratching
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  Speaker 2: the side, and like guy or one of the guys
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  Speaker 2: with a dog, he was like he just came over
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  Speaker 2: to me and like he almost finished my sentence when
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  Speaker 2: I was talking about the triangular thing and he says,
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  Speaker 2: I'll get you. He's like, I'll get you out of
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  Speaker 2: here in a few minutes, and no life. A few
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  Speaker 2: minutes later, they took me the fuck out of there.
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  Speaker 2: But once I started like running my mouth and saying
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  Speaker 2: like crazy shit about the hand signs, and I started
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  Speaker 2: to go into this one and I started to get
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  Speaker 2: into the triangular thing, the guy fucking came over to
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  Speaker 2: me and he's like, yoh, we'll get you out of you.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, yo, to that just work, Like what
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  Speaker 2: the fuck you know? And the thing is is that
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  Speaker 2: I yo, I had you know, I'd be just I'm
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  Speaker 2: keeping a real personal story. I was in the middle
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  Speaker 2: of a divorce at the time, so like I even
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  Speaker 2: had tons of shit in my fucking car that I
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  Speaker 2: was like, I'm not even taking this all out, just
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  Speaker 2: to go try to see if I could go over
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  Speaker 2: the border, to go into Canada, to go to the
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  Speaker 2: fucking outlets to get some socks and underwear. Like I
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  Speaker 2: was literally just saying, I want to say I went
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  Speaker 2: to Canada because I was in Detroit. You know, I've
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  Speaker 2: never been there before, had no idea that my felony
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  Speaker 2: wasn't old enough to wear it be a problem, and
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  Speaker 2: that was the issue why my car was, you know,
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  Speaker 2: being harassed. But uh fuck, where was I going with
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  Speaker 2: this shit? Sorry?
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, you could see the horn perfectly sort of
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  Speaker 1: shaped in that kind of counterclockwise rotation around the ear
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  Speaker 1: sort of right, so the eyes would be out front here.
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  Speaker 1: Let me see right here, this is where the eyes are,
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  Speaker 1: and so this would be sort of like a horn
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  Speaker 1: coming that way. We go back to this other Janus one.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, this is going in the opposite direction. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but it's it's interesting. It does have a similarity. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Oh oh, what I was saying, I had so much
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  Speaker 2: shit in my call that I even had my oto
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  Speaker 2: paperwork in there, and like when I went in my car,
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  Speaker 2: like that shit wasn't in, like it was visibly actually
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  Speaker 2: out on my back seat. So I was like, some
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  Speaker 2: of these motherfuckers have to have looked at this and
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  Speaker 2: realized it was in something. Yeah, they're probably like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: this is why this guy's really weird.
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  Speaker 1: Right, there is something too. I know this is Mason
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  Speaker 1: in distress. So if you go like this sort of
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  Speaker 1: like the ch ball from Chigum, that's the Mason in
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  Speaker 1: distress hand signal. But it would help if you bought
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  Speaker 1: like a free Masodic ring from like an estate sale.
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  Speaker 3: Yo.
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  Speaker 1: You know what's commitment to try and get out of tickets?
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  Speaker 3: Yo? You know what?
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  Speaker 2: Uh, you know what's You'd be surprised, dude. And I
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  Speaker 2: noticed this when me and this long time ago and
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  Speaker 2: me and lux recovering, like the Gesters and the Shriners
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  Speaker 2: and Quatsu cootal. If you go on eBay, you'd be
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  Speaker 2: surprised how much like shit did? You'd be like, wait,
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  Speaker 2: I could someone selling their pin, someone selling their ring,
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  Speaker 2: someone selling that their lodge like fucking pin, so you know,
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  Speaker 2: or even things that goes on the cause dude, you
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  Speaker 2: can buy yo, there's somebody on Instagram that I was
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  Speaker 2: following because they were always doing handstag quet Sequatdal, and
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: me and Lux were like trying to follow anybody who's
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: like promoting quets aquatdal shit when we were covering Q
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  Speaker 2: just to see if we could see any connections with anything.
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  Speaker 2: And I came across an account that was like basically
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  Speaker 2: selling like any like any freemasonry order in orders, like
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  Speaker 2: fucking logo, like like you know, like a pain. And
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  Speaker 2: I was like, so I don't even have to be
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  Speaker 2: in this shit. I just have to hit this guy
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  Speaker 2: up on Instagram in the fucking Bible. Yeah, Like they're
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  Speaker 2: probably not real, you know, they're probably premaking them, But
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  Speaker 2: what difference.
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  Speaker 1: Does it make if you fool somebody? It's it's it's
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  Speaker 1: worked right, and a lot of that stuff like it's
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  Speaker 1: so marked up because they know how valuable it is
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  Speaker 1: to get people's hands on. So you gotta go to
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  Speaker 1: the estate sales themselves and not the pawn shops or
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  Speaker 1: the used places because they're gonna jack up the prices.
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  Speaker 1: Mentally they know how much it's worth, but the people
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  Speaker 1: selling them at a state sales, they have absolutely no
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  Speaker 1: idea how much this stuff is worth, so they sell
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  Speaker 1: it for like ten bucks, little insignias and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, I'm gonna go with the stew of Matt's idea.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Next time I try to go over the border, I'm
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: just gonna wear a Jedi robe and makeup. I'm gonna
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: dress up as Darth Mole and see if I can
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: get over the border. There you go. Yeah, just talk
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: about talk about hockey, talk about hockey poutine and say
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry two hundred million fucking times, and they'll be like,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: all right, you.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: They'll do it, all right, So let's talk about try face.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Jesus m I don't know about that.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was sitting here taking a taking a drink
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: and totally forgot it was my turn to go alright,
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: my notes here, we are, okay. The trifacial trinity, also
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: called the three face trinity, is a Western Christian image
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: type that depicts the Holy Trinity as a single head
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: with three faces, usually one face forward, with two profiles
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: sharing the same skull like you can see here. It's
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: related to, though distinct from, the tricephalis trinity one body
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: with three heads. Both were attempted to solve a brutal
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: problem for artists how to picture one God in three
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: persons without sliding into heresy and like kind of why
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: does the image even exist? Because there is ideas in
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Christian theology that God is one and then somehow God
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: is also three the faultless on Holy Spirit or whatever.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: So most Trinity art normally tries to keep the threeness visible,
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: like three figures, the three visitors to Abraham or Father's
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Son in dove or Holy Spirit, or like geometric geometric
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: diagrams like the shield of the Trinsity of the Trinity,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: but the trifacial this one pretty much it does actually
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: the opposite. It makes oneness overwhelmingly visible because it's one
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: head expressing three. By the three faces emerging from that unity,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: you understand what I'm saying, Like somehow you can have
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: like the dove as a symbol for the Holy Spirit,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: and then you have like the Father and the Son,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: like it's something you have all these different things, everything's
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: all compressed into one so that people trying to get
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: an understanding of what I'm saying. And that was like
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: kind of one of the reasons why it became dangerous
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: later on, you know, dangerous, you know, supposedly medieval roots
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: and early sightings. Scholars track this to the High Middle Ages,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: with examples turning up in sculpture and manuscripts. A Spanish
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Romanesque example often sited in the twelfth century carving in
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Nevara showing a vultus trifons type motif, and in twelve
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: seventy there's an English manuscript the Cambridge Bible includes an
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: image as Abraham hosting a three faced trinity. Then it
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: also pops back up in the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: You'll see images theology for the eyes, and churches and
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: books you'll have like devotional pedagogy Renaissance. You'll start seeing
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: it showing up in some Renaissance art. What it meant
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: to them, kind of a unity of substance, one head, body,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: one God, tiplicity of persons, three faces for the son
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: and spirit, you know, multiple gaze as God sees all
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: a single emblem to hold the paradox in the mind.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I actually be totally honest with you. I
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: came across this and on Instagram and I was like,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: what the I was like, Yo, this is weird, this
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: would be great. So now now to get to eventually
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: I think it kind of got banned. In sixteen twenty eight,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: it was merely disapproved. It became an object of active suppression.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Archival scholarship notes that the Urban Urban eight intervened and
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: ordered examples to destroyed, to to be destroyed or burned
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: when specimens were discovered, and then yeah, I don't I
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: think I'm not exactly show why. Like again, they seemed
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: to say that because of showing it in one instead
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: of showing it in three separate ways. And then again
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: in the eighteenth century, Benedict in seventeen forty five, Benedict
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: the fourteenth I think issued, you know, issued to have
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: that stuff. It was controversy. It was no good. Oh no, no,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: he actually went against it and said it was okay.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: So I don't know, but it was banned at one point.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think what they were trying to do is
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: they were trying to keep people from meditating on stuff
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: like this. So a lot of what these icons were
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: to people was something to worship in front of, and
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: in doing so, they would sort of have a gnostic
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: experience in front of the icons, right, And so as
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: they're having that experience, they want to make sure that
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: they're you know, theologically correct with their with their visions,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: which a three faced Jesus is not doing that for them,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: So they probably banned it for that reason.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: It's too powerful.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but that's the shield of Jesus, right, so
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: father son, holy Spirit. They try to pick that with
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: the Latin phrases S non s and it all comes
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: together in the sun.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Right. So, oh, one thing too, just I wanted to
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: mention too. When they kind of like banned it for
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: a while, they were even like sometimes like painting or
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: putting other things over the other faces, like hitting a
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: halo in there, like trying to paint over the other
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: faces instead of taking it down, so they even did
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: like try to cover it up.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: That makes it even more mystical.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but in the rural areas, I'm sorry I
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: leave this out too, some of the remote churches, I
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: kind of like, you know, out they kept their shits
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: longer until they actually we're told like to.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Take it down, right, no reason to change it. So
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: if you look underneath the triangle there's it looks like
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: an orphic egg. Is that an orphic egg?
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Let me see? Yeah? Uh almost, let's see, where have
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I seen that before?
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: That's the globe mis Chritsinger, only with the crowns actually
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: on the globe, I think, And so it's deformed, but
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: it looks like an egg, looks like an egg of deed.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: But there's the scepter and then I guess that would
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: be kind of like the globist cruisinger, like the King
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: of the World. It's the cross on top of the circle.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: They sometimes have that, and they're holding a scepter and
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: they've got a little circle with the cross on top.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Kind of looks like what they got going on there.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: It's interesting. There's a definite paging motif right there. If
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: that's the orphic egg, which would be.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And the reasons it was banned it was they
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: also thought like because it was because of the three faces. Again,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: like they people wouldn't understand what it actually was saying
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: because it was different. So that was one of the
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: reasons why they did. And they also considered it like
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: a monstrous or in a proper form for the divine
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: and almost linked it to like demonic.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Well do you know how they describe Jesus and revelations.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: I'm laughing. It just makes me think about people nowadays. Oh,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: it's fucking demonic. You just don't understand the art.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Guy.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: No, well, we'll go ahead, go ahead, what are you
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: going to say?
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I'm pulling it up now. So he's depicted as a
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: goat with these seven eyes and like five horns. This
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: is how they describe him in the Book of Revelations.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: So let me pull that up. This is, uh, you know,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: biblically accurate right here. I don't know why they would
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: be freaked out by the Jesus with the three heads
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: when this is what is described as Jesus in the
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Book of Revelations.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: So damn, I don't know.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: This one seems a little bit more creepy.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: He's got seven eyes to Jesus, Jesus.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Exactly that It makes you say, Jesus, that's why he has.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: To Somebody saw that, like Jesus the exactly like you'll
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: slip the motherfuckers.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I'd be terrified too. I mean you, I've got to
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: remind people.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Like, oh, my life, why why this thing didn't see me?
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I just gotta walk away, right, I hope.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: You didn't see that? All right, Well, Manchine, let's get
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: to you. How are you. Let's talk about some of
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: the site.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Teachers Okay, are you gonna pull up pictures or no.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Sure you it matter. Let me let me look you
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: up on Twitter here and then pull up your photos.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: You're gonna get a lot of rock and roll. Well,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: just this week I went to the mounds in downtown Memphis.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: I've been to those before, Bisbelle a long time. It
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: was a little extraordinary. They're pretty large. One of the
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: mounds I believe during the Civil War they put cannons
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: on top of to defend the Mississippi River. That mound there,
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: it looks a lot smaller than it actually is. I
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: would say it's probably about three stories high.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: It's it's pretty nice. And I believe yeah, that's the
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: same one from a different angle. And doctor this is
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: that one is a platform mound that's a little behind it.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: It's large too.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Trying to think of what you could say it was.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Doctor greg Little posted a picture of these mounds all
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: the time. I think I heard him say they were
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: some of his favorites. But there's a plaque kind of
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: telling that when this area was discovered there were Native
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Americans nearby. But these mounds are much more ancient.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Than than that, right, So how close to the river
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: was this mound complex.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Right next to it, right next to the Mississippi.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Very nice.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's right next to the Memphis Metal Museum also,
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: which I think that I know i'd emailed you about
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: my mound experience and kind of figuring out that it
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: actually did happen after talking to my ect that I
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: totally didn't remember because I was so messed up. But yeah,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: I think that night actually started at these mounds and
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: there was a bunch of us hanging out partying, started
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: going to mounds that night.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: You know, the kind of stuff you.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Do when you're twenty one, you know, real young and
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: don't have to work the next day, so.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to hit up the mounds. So there
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: are a bunch of them on the Mississippi. I live
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: real close to the Mississippi up in Wisconsin too, and
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: there's a ton of mounds all up and down the
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Mississippi Bluffs. So up here they have these massive cliffs
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: that are like a mile away from the Mississippi River
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: on either side because apparently is just craped through just
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: by the river. Well on top of those cliffs, that's
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: where you have the mountains that are built. So they
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: actually build theirs, like right up on top of the
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: cliffs overlooking the Mississippi. I'll have to get some footage
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: here a couple of days.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Right, there's a mound that's a little further south of
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: here too, called Chuck a Lisa, Indian village. But it's
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: got a pretty large mound. It's strange. They've concreted around it.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Evidently they've excavated in stuff. And doctor greg Little talks
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: a lot about that whole experience. That's when he had
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: one of the chiefs come down and stay with them,
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: you know, in protest about that.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: So have you had any more mound experiences or any
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: sort of other strange activity associated with these mounds.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: It's a little hard to say. I haven't really been
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: noticing a lot of paranormal type of stuff, and I'm
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: a little I think I may have been under some
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: spiritual attack lately, but I don't know for sure if
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: that's mound related or not. But as far as going
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: to them, it was really strange going to the place
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: I was telling you that had looked like had been excavated.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, there was a very strange energy in this place.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: I don't really know how to put it into words.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: It was very spooky, I'll say that much. It was
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: my different than the little mound, you know, or even
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: going to pens and mounds.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: It's kind of a dark.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Sort of presence. It's like the forest shifted when I
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: got to them. It was very hard to get to also,
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: but I've gone there like three times since.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: So do you think that maybe some of these mounds
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: could have been constructed to sort of seal away a
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: kind of ancient spirit or some other sort of entity, because,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I mean that's a possibility too. I've seen that propose.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: I think it's possible. These excavated mounds I've found. I've
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: sent you a picture of it, but it's like mounds
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: that are kind of lined up and sort of yeah,
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: you can see that that sort of direction. And Greg
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Little talks about their ceremonies they had for sending their
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: dead to the Milky Way. Well on the soul as
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: I was outside, excuse me one second, that had a
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: bit of a cold, But yeah, it totally looks like
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: from where those mounts were, it could line up for
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: them to shoot the spirit to the center of the
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Milky Way galaxy, right, I mean, I was like, oh,
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know exact because I wasn't walking
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: back there at night. You know, I'm just I'm not
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: that brave now by myself. I mean, you've you've got
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: the crypted hunters on and stuff. I'm I'm not surprised
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: to some of that stuff's around here. I've seen a
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: really strange looking dog recently that killed cats. Most disgusting
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: thing I've ever seen in my life.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Really, that sounds like.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: It's like a red dog. He's like missing the side
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: of his skin, of his teeth. Weird.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: What that's interesting? Is this a common a courrection.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: I have ring doorbell camera too, so.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: I'm so creepy.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Look you gotta get that footage, bro. Yeah, I didn't
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: even think that.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: I mean I remember seeing that you kind of seeing
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: him from behind. But I went out there one day
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: and caught him and I was like, shoot, that thing
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: looks demonic. Sorry to throw at word.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: But kind of did.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: No, it makes sense, but uh yeah, that's a lot
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: of what a lot of what goes on on, you know,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: really honted pieces of land. It could be this reverberation
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: all throughout history. So I know that the mounds in uh,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Georgia associated with the Federal Reserve. Those were actually sacrificial mounds.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: They specifically chose the soccer official mound to build on
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: top of, and that was where they signed the Federal
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Reserve Act, which is right, what else do you call it? Demonic?
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: It wouldn't surprise me, and it wouldn't surprise me if
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: there was a curse, because they were, you know, dug
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: up to that sort of thing. It's not very far.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: It took actually measured it on Google Earth to see
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: how far I walked. It's two miles like round trip
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: from where I'm at.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: So about a mile.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Right next side forty two.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Kind of crazy.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: You're seeing in one of those little spots that no
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: one ever goes.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: You often find those mounds and stuff in places that
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: are just sort of like right in the middle of everything,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: but you can't see them from the ride, like usually
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: they're covered up by trees and whatnot, but they're right there.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: It's kind of.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one of those spots the farmers can't really
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: use because there's huge creeks up here too that are
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: connected to the Lusahatchie. So you know, there you go
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: with more of that sort of thing because the natives
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: and probably the mound builders to use the rivers. And
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: I even have a theory that maybe the mound builders,
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: in their huge piles of dirt, that they were actually
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: somewhat what you call it geo engineering to make floodplains, right,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: kind of like they did in Egypt for flooding the
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Nile very much.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they add the cataracts, all right. Absolutely. I think
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: there's so many different possibilities. It's uh. I mean, especially
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: with the Mississippi being like the mirror image of the
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Nile River in Africa. You know, it's like one living
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: north to south and the other one moving south to north.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: It's crazy the similarities between the two. And you know
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: that's where all the mounds are, That's where the pyramids are.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: You've got a massive mound complex down in Louisiana that
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: looks like pyramids. So Illinois, right, Cahokia big time?
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all up and down.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: I've even learned here as a bunch of Arkansas across
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: the river, it was like looking for mounts nearby, like
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: let's take a mountain trip because I'm totally down for that.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: You know, not like huge all across the country at
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: this time, but a couple of day trip might be fun.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Why not? I mean, does it really take that long?
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: You get started really early in the morning. You can
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: get out there and get all kinds of footage and
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: then be back by nightfall.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, go to Missouri.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Headless went full blown Joseph Smith.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was trying to understand that. I don't get that.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: No, Joseph Smith was obsessed with the mounds.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's true. Yeah all right, but I thought it, like,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: I think Joseph Smith is a fucking scamotest, so like,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: you know, that's how why he say. I was like,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: what the headless, little little one, little of the other.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: I don't mind. Yeah, but uh yeah, this is a
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: great episode. Thank you for joining us mansion. Thank you
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Nick the problem again next time.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: I definitely share the show. We're gonna have more mound
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: stuff all in twenty twenty six, so check us out
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: guys later