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2025 Year in Review | Hollywood vs AI · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 3: Hey everybody. Well, I have four boys, and that's how
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  Speaker 3: they definitely show love by throwing each other on the floor,
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  Speaker 3: Their ages are twenty seven, twenty four, seventeen, and they
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  Speaker 3: even do that to my eleven year old. And you
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  Speaker 3: know what, he shows love back.
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  Speaker 1: And that's a mom. Moms can't lie. That's a mom
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  Speaker 1: who backs me up on that. I love you, Kno.
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  Speaker 1: He's never let me get up. You just keep pushing
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  Speaker 1: me down. Hey, he pushed me down and down and
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  Speaker 1: down and down and down and down. I love you, man,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not afraid to say it. I love you, Kno.
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  Speaker 1: I love you, Stephen, Kno. I don't put my government
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  Speaker 1: name out there. Don't be doing that. My government name, Stephen. Yeah, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry people, I do. The guy is a treat.
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  Speaker 1: I come in and I like a pet dog when
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  Speaker 1: I see him all excited and he's not twelve. Everybody
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  Speaker 1: thinks he's twelve. How old are you, kono?
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  Speaker 4: They do defend me like I'm very young, which I appreciate.
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  Speaker 4: I'm in my thirties seven, but.
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  Speaker 1: They act like you're twelve, and like I'm I'm I'm
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  Speaker 1: picking on you. I'm not well, you are picking on me,
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  Speaker 1: but I am, yes, groan, he's a grown man relatively.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not tall. But let let let me seal this.
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  Speaker 1: Does your dad your own blood? I think it's funny
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  Speaker 1: or not funny some of us affair. My dad likes
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  Speaker 1: it when I get put in my place.
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  Speaker 4: So see see, my dad's a bigger fan of you
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  Speaker 4: than that's for sure.
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  Speaker 1: And he was in law enforcement, right he was, so
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  Speaker 1: he's also so I got law enforcement. I'm backed up
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  Speaker 1: by by law enforcement and moms. That's right, you are.
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  Speaker 4: Two things I never got along with.
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  Speaker 3: I love you.
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  Speaker 1: Moms all right. Back in the Year in Review, as
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  Speaker 1: we look back on twenty twenty five, sliding into the
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  Speaker 1: new year, Heather Brooker has been kind enough amongst the
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  Speaker 1: seventeen duties behind the board this morning to walk us
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  Speaker 1: through some of the entertainment stories of twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: She was just talking about the merger of Netflix and
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  Speaker 1: Warner Brothers. I will tell you that I think creativity
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  Speaker 1: survives all things. I really do. I think, I, you know,
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  Speaker 1: not to get too deep. As I said, people don't
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  Speaker 1: like when you get deep on the radio. They want
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  Speaker 1: us to be stupid. I'm sorry. Although although Eva hit
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  Speaker 1: us up earlier saying, Neil, get deep, get deep.
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  Speaker 2: I like when you get deep, and somebody said, like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: this is the best conversation I've heard a long time.
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  Speaker 1: We're just it's a more casual show today. People aren't
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  Speaker 1: necessarily all back into it. But but I believe that
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  Speaker 1: when scripture says that we're creating the image of God,
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  Speaker 1: it means that we're creators. Good people create, bad people destroy.
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty simple math to me. So I think creativity
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  Speaker 1: and sends the structure. Whatever the structure is, creativity will transcend.
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  Speaker 1: I think we saw that when there was more gatekeeping.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember prior to YouTube in the like, there
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  Speaker 1: was so much gatekeeping, The equipment was so expensive, everything
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  Speaker 1: was I remember as a young punker in a band
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  Speaker 1: to pay one thousand dollars for two hours or whatever
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  Speaker 1: it was to record a demo tape was insane. The
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  Speaker 1: later years when I got to be about eighteen or
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  Speaker 1: nineteen or so, when the technology task cam came in
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  Speaker 1: with multi track units that you could buy for a
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  Speaker 1: thousand bucks that you could start recording your own and
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  Speaker 1: that's what we did. And I think YouTube allowed a
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  Speaker 1: lot of young artists, actors, entertainers, directors and stuff to
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  Speaker 1: put out their own stuff. And I think that will
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  Speaker 1: happen regardless of what takes place, and we either are
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  Speaker 1: entertained by it or we're not right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think any advancement in technology is going
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  Speaker 2: to be, you know, potentially beneficial and helpful in some ways.
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  Speaker 2: I think the concern is when you have too much
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  Speaker 2: power in the hands of one company and one person.
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  Speaker 2: Because Ted Sarandos runs Netflix. I mean Greg Peters is also,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the co president there, but Ted Sarandos is
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  Speaker 2: the main figurehead for Netflix. And when you have so
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  Speaker 2: much power and control in the hands of one person,
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  Speaker 2: then I think the concern is that other forms of
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  Speaker 2: art may get sort of squeezed out. So yes, while
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  Speaker 2: you may have advances in technology and there may be
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  Speaker 2: some benefits to it, having one entity have so much
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  Speaker 2: power and control is just a little concerning.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't disagree on that basic point.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're right, especially when we're on the precipice.
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  Speaker 2: Precipice of so much happening with AI, which is one
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  Speaker 2: of the other big stories of the year, Tilly Norwood.
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  Speaker 2: Do you remember the story Tilly Norwood was the first
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  Speaker 2: fully AI generated performer. I used that in air quotes
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  Speaker 2: performer created by AI Studio and.
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  Speaker 1: Elaine. I'm gonna say're at Vandervelden.
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  Speaker 2: So this was very upsetting to a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: because you know, sag after got involved, the unions are
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  Speaker 2: saying this is not an actor, but talent agencies were like,
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  Speaker 2: wait a minute, can we make money off of her?
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  Speaker 2: And then let's sign her. So that was a big
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  Speaker 2: story that happened there. Also, this is an interesting one
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  Speaker 2: to me. Remember the Sydney Sweeney has great genes ad
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  Speaker 2: Remember that Cono's raising his fist in joy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm assuming that's what's happening there. Joy and excitement.
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  Speaker 2: I know Gary from the Gary and Shannon Show is
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  Speaker 2: probably excited about this story as well. Who's the actress
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  Speaker 2: Sidney Sweeney. So she did an American Eagles ad campaign
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  Speaker 2: Kano be subtle, Be subtle, and you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, she had the line city Sweeney has great genes.
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  Speaker 1: Stupid stupidest concern and controversy. People got upset.
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  Speaker 2: They said that the line was flirting with white supremacists.
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  Speaker 1: No, seriously, that's all it was. It was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she she's got a good figure and she's a pretty girl.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it says. She's got great gens.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we all talk about our genes
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  Speaker 2: when we talk about our parents and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So it was definitely controversy that was overblown quite a bit.
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  Speaker 2: So that was one big story that happened this year,
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  Speaker 2: something you know along the lines of you know what's
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  Speaker 2: happening with Hollywood movies. They're making a lot of big
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  Speaker 2: reboots and and aging franchises keep coming back, like the
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  Speaker 2: Jurassic Yeah, the Jurassic World, you know reboot that came
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  Speaker 2: out this year did not do as well as they
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  Speaker 2: thought it would. The two movies that did really, really
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  Speaker 2: well were original films, and they were horror movies. Sinners
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  Speaker 2: just made an insane amount of money. And then Zach
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  Speaker 2: Cregger's weapons also caught people off guard. Those are both
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  Speaker 2: original stories and they were in the horror genre. So
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  Speaker 2: Hollywood is looking at that going, oh, should we do
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  Speaker 2: a few more of those?
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  Speaker 1: See, that's what I'm saying. Regardless it if you eat crap,
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  Speaker 1: they'll make crap, yeah, because that's what sells. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: we still get the vote. I don't care how big
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  Speaker 1: of a company it is. You know how big companies
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  Speaker 1: become small companies serving as stuff we don't want to eat. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So I will tell you this though some of the
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  Speaker 1: things that I've seen. I saw there's this guy in
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  Speaker 1: the UK. His name is Greg Johnson, spelled like UK
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  Speaker 1: like g R E I G or something Greg Johnson.
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  Speaker 1: And he's a maker. And for those who don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a maker. I like making prop replicas and building things.
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  Speaker 1: I have a shop at home and all kinds of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And I follow him because he makes stuff out of junk.
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  Speaker 1: He gets like, I'm a big fan of kit bashing,
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  Speaker 1: where people make props or replicas or things just out
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  Speaker 1: of stuff, and he does that. But he's also a
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  Speaker 1: filmmaker and he did this film I don't know, within
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  Speaker 1: the last year called The Wilds fifteen minutes short, and
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  Speaker 1: it's super entertaining. And I'd rather go and support him
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  Speaker 1: and find stuff like that he's a YouTuber and find
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  Speaker 1: his stuff, then just be dictated to by Netflix and
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  Speaker 1: Warner Brothers as a conglomerate. So I agree with you, Heather,
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  Speaker 1: that it is of concern, But I trust creatives and
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  Speaker 1: they will always push back whatever system is there to
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  Speaker 1: create and we if as long as we don't, you know,
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  Speaker 1: succumb to them forcing that down our throats and pick
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  Speaker 1: and choose wisely, they'll have to. We're the ones paying them.
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  Speaker 2: But the creatives, like you're like, you're talking about creatives
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  Speaker 2: separately from like a studio creative team or whatever. Your creatives,
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  Speaker 2: like your indie filmmakers, your short filmmakers, you know, people
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  Speaker 2: even YouTube creators to you know whatever. They don't hold
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  Speaker 2: the purse strings in the same way that these major
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  Speaker 2: studios do. They don't have the access to get your
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  Speaker 2: movie in theaters in the same way for now, for now.
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  Speaker 1: But I will tell you this, I could say the
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  Speaker 1: same thing about the union. The union has gotten the
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  Speaker 1: Union's gotten too big I pay the union to work.
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  Speaker 1: It's ridiculous now, I being part of sag Aftra, and
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  Speaker 1: because I don't use their services, I don't get anything
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  Speaker 1: from them. Now there may be a day that I do,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Heaven forbid, I need to use them for
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  Speaker 1: some reason. But this is a union house, and they
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  Speaker 1: make my life more difficult because the Jesus show that
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  Speaker 1: I produce is non union because it's national, so I
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  Speaker 1: can't do it in the very same studio I'm doing
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  Speaker 1: this in because it's non union, so I have to
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  Speaker 1: do it differently for it, like it literally makes my
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  Speaker 1: They tell people so much that they can't work. You
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of young actors, now, what is it
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  Speaker 1: called when you you separate from the union corps? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: you a FI corps. Yeah, so there I hear a
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  Speaker 1: lot of young especially commercial actors doing that because they
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  Speaker 1: can't make a living.
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  Speaker 5: Well.
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  Speaker 2: You know, my daughter is an actor. She's non union
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  Speaker 2: right now, and she her agents have told her like,
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  Speaker 2: you got to get the union, got to get the union.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like why because you know to your point earlier,
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  Speaker 2: now that there is so much more access for actors
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  Speaker 2: and you know, filmmakers around the world to submit their
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  Speaker 2: tapes online, and you know, they're seeing people now around
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  Speaker 2: the world. For one part, they could see tens of
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  Speaker 2: thousands of people. Sure, and you will really limit yourself
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  Speaker 2: if you're just you know, in the Union, to only
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  Speaker 2: Union projects, because for those who don't know, when you're
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  Speaker 2: in the Union, there's global Rule number one that says
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  Speaker 2: you cannot work on any non union project, a project
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  Speaker 2: that is not SAG after. So you're limiting yourself to
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  Speaker 2: anything that is not Union related. And when you're a
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  Speaker 2: new actor that's up and coming and you're looking for
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  Speaker 2: new opportunities and experience to gain, then you're basically cutting out,
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  Speaker 2: like you know, seventy eighty percent of potential work. And
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  Speaker 2: for me, as as someone who is also an actor
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  Speaker 2: and who does audition and act regularly, I personally don't
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  Speaker 2: like it that they now can see thousands and thousands
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  Speaker 2: of people around the world for roles that used to
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  Speaker 2: just be in Los Angeles, sure, or just be in
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  Speaker 2: Texas or you know, wherever the area was is that
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  Speaker 2: you live. I'm not a huge fan of that. So, yes,
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  Speaker 2: they're there are some great things about technology and advancements
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  Speaker 2: and that sort of things, but as far as like
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  Speaker 2: work goes, it's the industry is so there's so many
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  Speaker 2: people that want to be a part of it, and
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  Speaker 2: sometimes it does not feel like there is enough work
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  Speaker 2: to go around.
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  Speaker 1: Oh and you know, and let's be honest, the union
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  Speaker 1: didn't help things with multiple strikes back to back, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean seriously that. But yet I talked to many
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  Speaker 1: people in the industry that didn't want to go on strike,
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  Speaker 1: but they had to.
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  Speaker 2: They had to because as a union you are supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be unified and all standing together as an aspurude them.
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  Speaker 1: They lost a lot of money and continued.
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  Speaker 2: To they did, and that led to some of the
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  Speaker 2: other you know, big stories that happened this year. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the strikes forced a lot of work to go overseas.
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  Speaker 2: That means right now London has become what LA used
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  Speaker 2: to be. LA sound stages right now are half empty.
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  Speaker 2: There's hardly any you know, there's a far less work
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  Speaker 2: happening than years ago here in LA. But in London,
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  Speaker 2: their books solid in the soundstage is there. Everybody is
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  Speaker 2: over there because of their aggressive tax incentives.
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  Speaker 1: And we used to go there for massive films because
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  Speaker 1: they have those big studios and where the Star Wars
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  Speaker 1: and the Right is the Lost Art and things like
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  Speaker 1: that because you needed the space.
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  Speaker 2: But that's but now it's all changed because now they're
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  Speaker 2: filming there regularly because of these massive tax incentives that
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  Speaker 2: they're getting there, which is the other big one of
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  Speaker 2: the other big stories that happened here is California past
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  Speaker 2: the big film and TV tax credit. Hoping to bring
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  Speaker 2: more filming back from around the world because now it's
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  Speaker 2: not just going to other states, it's gone around the
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  Speaker 2: world and it may be too late for LA. They're
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  Speaker 2: hoping it isn't too late to bring some of those back.
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  Speaker 2: I've been talking in depth to the people over at
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  Speaker 2: film LA. I keep in touch with them regularly about
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  Speaker 2: how much is actually explain who they are to people
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  Speaker 2: that film LA is the local is the the cities
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  Speaker 2: organization that has to approve filming permits essentially for Los Angeles,
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  Speaker 2: and they know exactly how many projects are filming, from
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  Speaker 2: short films and commercials to movies, TV shows, and how
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  Speaker 2: many sound stages are are full. They have data on
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  Speaker 2: all of that at any given time.
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  Speaker 1: So and if you're in the LA area, we used
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  Speaker 1: to get you know, littered with their their's their bulletins
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  Speaker 1: once a month maybe where they would tell you you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna they are going to be filming in your area.
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  Speaker 1: It was great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they have to notify people in the neighborhoods and
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  Speaker 2: stuff like which, you know, meant that things were busy
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  Speaker 2: in the industry.
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  Speaker 1: Now I've gotten maybe two this year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not much. There's not much happening because truly,
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  Speaker 2: filming in Los Angeles is at its the lowest it's
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  Speaker 2: in such a long time. But they're hopeful that with this,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the new Film and TV tax credit which
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  Speaker 2: is now at gone up.
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  Speaker 1: It was passed i think in July. Yeah, and credit
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  Speaker 1: where credit is due. I'm not a huge fan of
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  Speaker 1: Gab Newsoen, but but this was smart and needed to
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  Speaker 1: be done well.
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  Speaker 2: And also to your point, it wasn't just him. There
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  Speaker 2: was there is a ton of people behind the scenes
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  Speaker 2: in the industry, from the unions and and you know
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  Speaker 2: other lobbying groups that have been pushing for this for
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  Speaker 2: quite some time. So yes, it is a feather in
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  Speaker 2: his cap, but it is mostly the people on the
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  Speaker 2: ground who work in the industry who are saying, we're hurting.
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  Speaker 2: People are losing their homes, they're moving out of state.
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  Speaker 2: We have to do something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's two things I tried never to bitch about,
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  Speaker 1: and that is truckers. Yeah, because God bless them, we
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  Speaker 1: need them. So it's like, oh, that truck just you know,
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  Speaker 1: get out of their way. Let them go where they're going.
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  Speaker 1: They're moving, they're moving the world for us and they shoots. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, Dug and film crewis because it's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: did they shut down streets as we but we want
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  Speaker 1: them here, people, we want them here. Heather Brookers with
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  Speaker 1: us as well as Matthew is producing for Ann and
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  Speaker 1: uh Will's here, Kno's here. I'm here through the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the week and Heather's been breaking down. We've been
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  Speaker 1: looking kind of Today was just kind of a look.
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  Speaker 1: We're just kind of going through the year and review
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  Speaker 1: loosely and you know, conversing about it, just like some
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  Speaker 1: of the things that were of interest. A lot to
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  Speaker 1: go on, and I was surprised and I keep moving
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  Speaker 1: things around because I'm surprised how much has taken place.
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  Speaker 1: So we're looking over that and then you've got Gary
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  Speaker 1: and Shannon coming up and so go nowhere. Uh oh,
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  Speaker 1: and you know what Andy's in for Conway tonight, right, sure, Conno.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. They hate to make you, hate to make
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  Speaker 1: you work, but uh, you need to make You're supposed
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  Speaker 1: to know? Why? Am I supposed to know? Say? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't an email. I'm the dumb I'm the dumb
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  Speaker 1: talking head. A you remember the fat ugly guy we
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  Speaker 1: were talking about earlier. You are fat and ugly and dumb.
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  Speaker 2: See Oh my stars, Oh let's be a little nicer.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my stars is my favorite? Whose catchphrase was that?
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  Speaker 1: Come on anybody? I don't know, Samantha Stevens, Oh my stars,
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  Speaker 1: come on Bewitched? Okay? I made gosh yeah, And I
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  Speaker 1: thought I just made that up. One of the few
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  Speaker 1: blondes I was ever in love was I will tell
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  Speaker 1: you speaking about that. And we were talking a little
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  Speaker 1: bit about entertainment over the twenty twenty five something happened.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it happened in twenty twenty five
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  Speaker 1: or if it was twenty twenty four, but right down
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  Speaker 1: the street the Warner Brothers ranch, they tore down the
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  Speaker 1: Bewitched house and the house from Christmas Vacation and and
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  Speaker 1: all those places. And do you know what they did?
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  Speaker 1: With that space what they put up sound stages and
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  Speaker 1: I was so I mean, I'm I love nostalgia. I'd
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  Speaker 1: love old television and old film, and I was so annoyed.
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  Speaker 1: I think one of the last things they shot there
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  Speaker 1: was one division they're on the streets there. But doesn't
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: that go Isn't that counter to the fact that we
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: have less studio work here than ever right now?
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: It does seem sort of. They must have had their
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: reasons for it, I'm sure be.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Filthy Lucer, Yeah, because always filthy Lucer.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: We need I feel like we need more outdoor sets
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: type places instead of sound stages. But maybe they feel
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: like with technology, you know, and CGI and AI and
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: all that, that they can just create an outdoor feeling.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of AI that happens and CGI that
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: happens in movies that people probably don't even know about,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: You know, it's funny as I was talking to my
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: brother Craig, who did film television in Broadway and his
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: husband is a cinematographer in film and television, and you know,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: I fantasize with him about getting a plot of land
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: somewhere and building physical sets to be used because I
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: love them. I love walking through physical sets. You can
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: do it at the Paramount Ranch in Malibu Canyon and
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I used to do that as a kid all the time,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: and unfortunately it burned down, but they have rebuilt, I
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: believe since then.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: You know, I used to be a tour guide at
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Universal Studios Hollywood on the back lot.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: So it was handle.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Yes, we've joked, we've joked about that we should give
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: another tour. But my favorite favorite parts of the tour
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: was when we would drive through the sets and show
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: people the you know, the the just the front of this,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: there's nothing behind them, you know, the facades, the facades, yes,
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: and the New York. That's French for nothing behind it,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: nothing behind me. Yeah, the New York cassette it.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Means false front.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: But that was my favorite part of the tour, showing
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: people the facades because they would go, oh, like we
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: would show a clip from Bruce Almighty that filmed on
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: the New York streets. Sure, and they can look at
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: the Brownstones, yeah, the Brownstones and go what, oh my gosh.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: So it's really neat to watch people go, wait a minute,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: that wasn't actually in New York.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's it's it's the best in the way
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: that they make. Gosh. I love that and I've had
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I've actually climbed the clock tower from Back to the
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Future in the back courthouse square. Yeah. An old friend
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: was directing a film there and said, Hey, why don't
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: you come and hang out and you can be an
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: extra and just hang out and run around the back lot.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, what, See, Hollywood is fun. Oh, Hollywood
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: is great. As much as I bash on parts of it,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: I think Hollywood is great and very important to Southern California.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: We need that here in LA. We have to keep
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Hollywood in Hollywood. We do, and you know the tech
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: that goes with it and everything else. All right. Any
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: other stories that A.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Big one we have to talk about is what happened
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: with Jimmy Kimmel.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a big story that dominated the headlines
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: for probably a week or two at least when well,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: first of all, Stephen Colbert earlier this year announced that
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: the Late Show at CBS would be ending. That was
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: the first hit to Late Night this year, which is huge.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: That franchise has been around for such a long time
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: and Paramount Global. Well, they're saying that they were seeking
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: some to score some points with Trump by canceling that show.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Then we had you know what happened in September after
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: a comment involving Charlie Kirk, Jimmy Kimmel on Jimmy Kimmel Live,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: which is owned by Disney, is put on indefinite suspension.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: If you'll remember, he ended up back in the air
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: three nights later. There was widespread backlash for not only
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: you know, you know, there was backlash for what he said,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: but mostly because he was removed from the air. A
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: lot of people felt like it was a violation of
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: First Amendment.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of riches. Is not really true there.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I stood with Jimmy on this because the FCC that
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: winged up behind the FCC and Trump came out and
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: said some things that I said, I don't care. The
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: appearance of evil was enough for me. Don't get don't
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: even start to go down that path of taking people
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: off the air, even though I think it had business.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: You know, business is business, yea. And I think Jimmy
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Kimmel be gone in a year.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: It SAIDs a very dangerous precedent, and quite honestly a
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: lot of people think it's setting up more political interference
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: in the media in you know, other types of entertainment.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: President Trump recently another story said he really wanted to
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: bring Rush Hour back, if you'll remember that. So now
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Rush Hour four, which had been shelved for quite some time,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: his paramount has agreed to release that.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: That's so ridiculous. Yeah, all of it is silly, But
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I did stand with Jimmy Kimmel. Listen, late night sucks.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: It has gotten so bad, and they take themselves way
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: too seriously. They're important. I'm a Johnny Carson, guy, a
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Jay Leno, guy Conan O'Brien. I loved Letterman. You go
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: back to Carson and he made it very clear, don't
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: take yourself too seriously. You can do a lot of
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: swaying in this position, and that is misusing the platform.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: So and I agree with him. And I think that
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: it's become very dull to watch late night TV because
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: everybody thinks they're a political pundit rather than just making
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: fun of things. I think that causes, uh, well, I
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: think it causes a lot of fear and fear mongering
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: and ugliness and it's you know, ridiculous. But never ever, ever,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: should the government lean in on those things other than
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: basic FCC rules and the like, which I think are
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: kind of stupid too.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: They're a little updated, yeah, to be especially for television. Yeah,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: I will say really quick to your point about that.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: About Johnny Carson in particular, people always used him, use
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: him as the barometer, you know, for the best talk
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: show host of all time. Johnny Carson, while he may
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: not have been overtly political during his nightly monologues or whatever,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: very clearly made political moves by having guest co hosts
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: like our guest hosts like Harry Belafonte, and during a
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: very politically divisive time.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: In our country. Okay, but here's something I do not
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: think civil rights is political. I think human rights and
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: civil rights, even though it can be politicized, just like
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: AIDS was politicized, that health and human interest is not political.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: So I even though politics are involved and wrapped around
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: civil rights, to me, it transcends politics. So does human
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: rights and things like that. They just do. So when
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: you're saying wrong is wrong, that's not a political party
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: is wrong. That is it is wrong to put somebody
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: to oppress or to push someone down. To me, that
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: absolutely transcends. All right, Happy to be with you. I
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: don't know what we're gonna do Friday, if we'll end
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: up doing. You know, we're not gonna do ask Bill anything.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: But if you have a question for me, I'll happily
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: take it. Just go to the iHeart radio app and
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: you'll see a red icon with a microphone on it
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: and just press on that and you've got thirty seconds
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: or so to ask a question. You've been very active
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: this morning. Oh take it. We're not afraid of that.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: We've been talking about the new cycle twenty twenty five.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I will tell you I was talking to Heather Brooker
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: earlier about how if you have to cover everything, you
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: can't ever just make a point. You have to counter
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: every possible angle. Yeah, so that people go, wait a second,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: you didn't say this. Yes, we were talking about Jimmy
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Kimmel because we were talking about the year in review.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: And someone says, what you didn't mention about Facebook? And listen,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: I said, the appearance of evil with Trump. But it
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: is fact that the Biden administration actually censored people with
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: the help of Facebook, period. And I've said that to
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: handle And if you listen to the show, listen with
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: both ears, and you'll hear those things, but I'm not
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: going to clarify every single time on every single thing.
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: It's impossible, impuls I think also to people just hey,
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: just even if you're right about something or have a
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: point and it doesn't jive with what's in their mind,
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: they want to be like.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, you're wrong. No. People don't listen with
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: their ears. They listen with their triggers. It's human nature.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: They're waiting to be offended by something. So I'm sorry,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not trust me. If I had to, you know,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: producing the Jesus Show for almost thirty years or whatever
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: it is now, I will tell you that you will
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: be talking to a person for three minutes and you'll
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: get ten emails or whatever saying but why didn't you
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: say this? Didn't you get why didn't you bring up
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: the police? In my mind, yeah exactly, I was sending
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: you thoughts anyway. So we talked about the cost of living,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: We talked about entertainment, We talked about politics and power.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: By the way, quickly, if everybody, if you want to
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: listen to more entertainment news, I love to talk about entertainment.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: I have a show podcast called entertain Me with Heather brookers.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry, check it out. I would love for
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: you guys to do that.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: We talk about everything from box office stuff to news
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: and SoCal events and that sort of thing.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: So anytime you want to talk entertainment, Neil, you know,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: I love that. No, you've been great. I appreciate you
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: jumping in with us this morning on all that. And
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I guess I'll do myself a plug if you already know,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I'm at FOURK reporter on social media. But if you
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: want to see the stuff that I do, making stuff,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: and you know some of the prop replicas I'm working
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: on now and things like that, I have another Instagram
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: called Savco Industries Saavco Industries, and you can find me
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: there on Instagram. It's just like stuff that I do
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: in my shop. Very creative, my creative stuff. I'm going
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: to make something.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Look at me.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: I think this is a saw. I am so. A
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: couple other things that were going on. We had a
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: lot of technology and disruption, massive jump in scale of
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: AI across the workplaces, education media, explosion of AI powered scams.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Of course, anytime you have hey, look at that fresh
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: face Shan just walked in. Anytime you have new technology
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: The first thing they do is how can we screw
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: people out of money? And how can we use it
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: for porn? That's seriously, every technology that ever comes our way.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: So AI comes and it's like, how can we make
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: fake boobies and how can we screw people out of
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: their life savings? Speaking of fake boobies, they're not fake.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: That's why they're not great. It was just a segue.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Oh but he parked at them and then touched them
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: and I I.
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: Am sorry, don't use your hands.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: That sounds weird.
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: Poor Beta Beta was like a better technology, yeah, and
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: I got screwed because of VHS, right, that's why. That's why,
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: because porn chose VHS over yep.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: That's but see that's what happened. Look at you deep
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: that you're too deep porn cuts. You're too young to
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: know about Beta Max. God bless you. I am not
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: my dad.
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: I think till he died a couple of years ago,
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: had a bait, had a VHS and a Beta Max.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: What did he play on a Beta Max? Old Godfather?
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: You know Godfather movies? That's like people. I have a
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Stanford inside k Tvanford Son reruns Stanford and Son. Another
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: deep poll. That is fantastic. It was a different time
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: watch that show. There is there is not one bad episode.
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: Oh god, it's so good. I loved hearing you this morning.
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: It was so much a sponge you and Heather Brooker.
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: I turned my radio on and it was just nice
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: to have friends on the drive in.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: You know what, someone I didn't say instead of someone
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: just sent them a talk back. The show's been great today.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: See how much fun you can have when there's not
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: a Jew involved. Oh my word, who jeez, that's awful.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: That's horrible. That's anti semitic. Yeah, who was that? Ad All? No, no, no, no, no, no, adoll.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I should we have their names and phone numbers? We
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: should not.
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: I'm going to put that out. We're not going to
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: do that. No, we're not going to do that. It's
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: time to go to ways. It's time to it's time
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: to go cut the.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Mic, is it? Yes? I they should have done that
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: at about six oh four. No, You're wonderful. I'm oh,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I just want to there's a lot of stuff that
• 32:40
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  Speaker 1: lose you? Oh my god, I'm distracted.
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