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Milana Vayntrub - Unsung Cinema · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: Hi, this is Kathleen Turner, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, and welcome to Movie Meltdown's Unsung Cinema. I'm Brian,
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  Speaker 2: and I'll be your host in this spin-off series where
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  Speaker 2: we welcome a guest to discuss their involvement in film,
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  Speaker 2: and then round out the episode with a discussion of
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  Speaker 2: a movie that they enjoy that maybe didn't get the
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  Speaker 2: respect it deserves. And in this episode, we are talking
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  Speaker 2: to not only a brilliant actor and comedian, but I
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  Speaker 2: would say one of the most recognizable women in the country.
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  Speaker 2: You know her, you love her, it's Milana Vayntrub. And
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  Speaker 2: with that, I say we get right into it as
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  Speaker 2: we welcome Milana and start talking movies. So usually I
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  Speaker 2: try to start at the very beginning and everybody sort
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  Speaker 2: of kind of brings their own weird version of this
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  Speaker 2: journey from their childhood.
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  Speaker 3: Yours might be slightly different. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, normally I ask people what like they
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  Speaker 2: were into as far as the arts and movies and.
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  Speaker 3: Stuff when they were young.
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  Speaker 2: You, from what I know, started performing really young. Were
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  Speaker 2: you already in the industry in some sense before you
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  Speaker 2: even had favorite movies?
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  Speaker 1: I think movies were a part of my life, like
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  Speaker 1: before I even knew that they were a business for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Like just, you know, just because it was always on
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  Speaker 1: and I had two working parents and it was just like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, how we connect and the few VHSs we
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  Speaker 1: had at home were watched. many, many times. And then
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  Speaker 1: also just, you know, whatever was on was watched, but
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  Speaker 1: I had, uh, a deep, almost like familial connection to,
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  Speaker 1: to TV.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely.
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  Speaker 2: That was, yeah, that was most of my childhood. I
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  Speaker 2: think at times I was specifically told go outside for
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  Speaker 2: God's sake. So.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, for sure. For sure. And there were times where like,
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  Speaker 1: I was told to sit still and just watch TV.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. It is a good babysitter more than people will
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  Speaker 3: admit sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: For sure. I rely on it as a babysitter still.
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  Speaker 2: Did you have set things that you were like locked into,
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  Speaker 2: especially once VHS came into play, like there were just
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  Speaker 2: kids would just loop them, you know, it would wear
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  Speaker 2: out a VHS on specific movies.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's so weird. The only one I can remember,
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if it holds up at all, but I
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  Speaker 1: watched it. hundreds of times was Beethoven the movie about
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  Speaker 1: the Saint Bernard.
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  Speaker 2: The giant dog yeah yeah I it's been a while
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  Speaker 2: since I've seen it but I will say I mean
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  Speaker 2: to have a movie with Charles Grodin in it that's
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  Speaker 2: you know how can you lose there really even if
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  Speaker 2: it's a silly kids movie it's Charles Grodin.
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  Speaker 1: It's true and it's Charles Grodin like mostly frustrated and
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  Speaker 1: enraged which is kind of every really which is the
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  Speaker 1: best version of him it's.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah I mean even when he's not enraged like just
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  Speaker 2: him overwhelmed and just you know you're gonna get that
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  Speaker 2: whether he's dealing with Robert De Niro or Muppets like
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  Speaker 2: either way like he's just always kind of like exacerbated
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  Speaker 2: it's just there's always something that's overwhelming.
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  Speaker 1: Him and there's a big beautiful dog in it which
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  Speaker 1: as a kid was all I really wanted was just
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  Speaker 1: to be around dogs and so I was of course
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  Speaker 1: always on the dog's side and had great empathy for
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  Speaker 1: this dog that like, you know, destroyed a dinner party
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  Speaker 1: because it saw a squirrel or a cat or something.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's what dogs do. It's your fault
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  Speaker 1: for tying it to a table. And it's not the
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  Speaker 1: dog's fault that it's so strong and so excited by
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  Speaker 1: a cat. So I never like really could side with
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  Speaker 1: anyone else. I was always like, it's, it's the dog
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  Speaker 1: is the hero, whether you like it or not. Even
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  Speaker 1: if the dog is creating the chaos, the dog is
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  Speaker 1: the hero.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's my, that's my status now, like in life.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just like, I'm always team dog. Humans do nothing
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  Speaker 2: but let me down.
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  Speaker 3: Dogs are always awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Like even when they do something bad, you're like, ah,
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  Speaker 2: but they're a dog. Look how cute they are.
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  Speaker 3: Like, it's just, I don't know. I'm team dog.
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  Speaker 1: I want to have my feet right now.
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  Speaker 3: I am definitely on team dog.
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  Speaker 2: So same. Well then I guess as you got into it,
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  Speaker 2: like just sort of what led you into, uh, entertainment
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  Speaker 2: in general, was it more theater or was it comedy
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  Speaker 2: or what did you sort of start down?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I started acting at a really young age. When
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  Speaker 1: I was like five, I started going to acting classes
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  Speaker 1: and doing commercials like, you know, Barbie commercials and Polly
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  Speaker 1: Pocket commercials and things like that.
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  Speaker 3: The classics, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the classics, the good ones, which, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: I cannot find online. If I challenge the internet, please,
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  Speaker 1: if anybody out there could find one, I would love
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  Speaker 1: to see it. My mom would love to see it.
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  Speaker 3: One of the commercials, or you actually want a Polly
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  Speaker 3: Pocket at this point? Or both, I mean.
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  Speaker 1: If there is a Polly Pocket out there, call me.
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  Speaker 1: My mother is dying for one. No, I just, it's
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  Speaker 1: crazy that in the information age, I cannot find... these
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  Speaker 1: like many commercials that I did with Mattel and all those.
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  Speaker 2: And you see a lot of them with actors from
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  Speaker 2: that point. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's weird.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen so many actors from, you know, 20, 30
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  Speaker 2: years ago that pop up on, you know, Burger King
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  Speaker 2: commercials and whatever. And like, so yeah, yours have to
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  Speaker 2: be out there somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: So internet, do your thing. Internet, if you're listening. The
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  Speaker 1: other thing is, I think I just really loved being
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  Speaker 1: on set. more than I was like enamored with film
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  Speaker 1: at that age. I was less like, well, that's not true.
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  Speaker 1: I think I was taken by film almost without like
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  Speaker 1: connecting the dots in some way as a young kid.
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  Speaker 1: Like I would watch movies about, you know, puppies or,
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  Speaker 1: you know, all-in-twin movies and get really moved by them
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  Speaker 1: or get really inspired by them without thinking of them
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  Speaker 1: as having actors in them. And then when I was
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  Speaker 1: on set, I didn't. And I like loved being on set.
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  Speaker 1: I loved crafty. I loved makeup. I loved other actors.
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  Speaker 1: And I wouldn't fully connect that to like becoming a
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  Speaker 1: final project.
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  Speaker 3: Just two planes of existence. Just exactly. Especially entirely separate things.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is one is an after school activity. The
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  Speaker 1: other is my second mom.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and it's also a totally different experience because, you know,
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  Speaker 2: every kid kind of has that detached version sitting in
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  Speaker 2: front of the tv but like when it's like when
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  Speaker 2: you're on the other side you're looking at cameras and
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  Speaker 2: sets and teamsters and like crafty and like you've got
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  Speaker 2: a whole different you know point of view that that
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  Speaker 2: is very different than what you get when you're sitting
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  Speaker 2: at home totally well then i guess what led you
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  Speaker 2: to eventually you got more into comedy.
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  Speaker 1: Right um i think Oh, waitressing, honestly, was the first step.
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  Speaker 2: You loved waitressing so much. You were like, I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to do anything else.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I found that if I can do bits with
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  Speaker 1: my customers and I can make them laugh, I would
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  Speaker 1: leave with a higher cash amount at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the night. And I worked at, you know, basically like
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  Speaker 1: a bowling alley. And so I was allowed to be
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  Speaker 1: really spunky and weird and sometimes like, playfully mean. And,
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  Speaker 1: and it really worked. It's also like how I made
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  Speaker 1: a lot of friends. And, and so that I found
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  Speaker 1: to be like, like, I'm like, oh, this is a
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  Speaker 1: part of my personality, I want to exercise anyway. And
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  Speaker 1: so that was in college when I was waitressing. And
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  Speaker 1: also in college is when I discovered theater and what
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  Speaker 1: is even comedic timing, because I had never performed uh
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  Speaker 1: live before really i mean i guess in like school
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  Speaker 1: plays but really like i never did community theater or
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  Speaker 1: improv growing up or even improv in college and so
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  Speaker 1: doing theater taught me comedic timing because you would hear
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  Speaker 1: the laugh and.
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  Speaker 3: Then it's in person in your face.
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  Speaker 1: It's unavoidable exactly and then for waitressing it was also
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  Speaker 1: kind of immediate because it was like an numerical value
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  Speaker 1: was given to my performance. And that was really fun.
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  Speaker 1: And then after college, I dated a guy who took
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  Speaker 1: me to an improv show at the UCB. And I
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  Speaker 1: saw Brian Gallivan perform. He got the suggestion, Hollywood Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: And he started the scene with, I'm eating breakfast out
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  Speaker 1: of my Hollywood Bowl. And I had the reaction that
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  Speaker 1: probably a lot of improvisers have, which is like, wait,
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  Speaker 1: this is a thing and they're making this up and
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  Speaker 1: there are no lines to memorize, but they are just like,
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  Speaker 1: and this is a skill you could learn. They have
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  Speaker 1: classes for this. And so I did that. And again,
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  Speaker 1: it's like how I made most of my friends out
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  Speaker 1: of college and then started making internet videos with the
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  Speaker 1: friends that I made in that world and That's how
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  Speaker 1: I got my reps and everything kind of came from
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  Speaker 1: improv with great credit to the UCB.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely. And that's such a weird world in and of itself,
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  Speaker 2: because it's like, there's so many different versions of it
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  Speaker 2: out there.
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  Speaker 3: And so many different people trying completely.
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  Speaker 2: Different approaches and Sometimes it's great and sometimes it's a
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  Speaker 2: lot to deal with. So, yeah, it's a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's like more work for the audience.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's like the audience is like, we have to perform
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  Speaker 1: laughter now. Yeah, that's my nightmare. We have to. It's
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  Speaker 1: our job. I guess that's where the laugh comes in
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  Speaker 1: and it's our job to do that. That's our cue. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: This is comedic timing. We laugh now.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: The audience has a greater sense of it than the
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  Speaker 1: performers sometimes for sure. And that is also like, that's
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  Speaker 1: also like almost a spiritual lesson in like what may happen,
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  Speaker 1: who knows what we will channel and what will come
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  Speaker 1: out of our mouth in this moment. And sometimes it's great.
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  Speaker 1: And sometimes it's a learning experience. And sometimes you're on
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  Speaker 1: a high and you've got like many amazing shows. And
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  Speaker 1: sometimes you're in a slump, which is very real where
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  Speaker 1: you're like, For some reason, when I'm on stage, I'm
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  Speaker 1: panicking and I can't think of the next thing to say.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm barely listening to what the person in front
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  Speaker 1: of me is saying. And I'm only panicking. And then
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  Speaker 1: that is like also an insane life lesson in managing anxiety.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, not just on stage, but also your
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  Speaker 2: day to day life, whether you're a waitress or you're
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  Speaker 2: in a business meeting.
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  Speaker 3: Like it's just figuring that out, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: And how to like channel anxiety as life force. I like,
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  Speaker 1: I had a friend suggest that I take beta blockers
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  Speaker 1: and I took them once on set not so long ago.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, my anxiety is gone. Oh shit,
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  Speaker 1: my life force is gone. Like the thing that I
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  Speaker 1: have learned to work with that allows me to spontaneously
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  Speaker 1: generate is gone. And so it's, it's not for me,
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  Speaker 1: but I have a, I probably have a different kind
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  Speaker 1: of anxiety that doesn't respond to that. I'm sure it
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  Speaker 1: works for.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people. specifically in that scenario it's like
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  Speaker 2: yeah part of that is what's fueling you in a
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  Speaker 2: performance mode you know it's anything live particular you're going
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  Speaker 2: to be like fueled by that so yeah i don't
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  Speaker 2: know we we sometimes over medicate our system anymore do
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  Speaker 2: you think so do you think some of us perhaps
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  Speaker 2: are over as i've said to many people i know
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  Speaker 2: all of which were on drugs That I'm just like, what, what,
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  Speaker 2: what are we doing?
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  Speaker 3: Like, cause that was my thing.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, I'm, I'm not mentally stable, but I feel
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  Speaker 2: like learning to manage it is part of it.
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  Speaker 3: Like if you're just.
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  Speaker 2: Completely blocked of it and then all of a sudden
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  Speaker 2: you run out of those drugs, like your brain does
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  Speaker 2: not know what to do. Like, so I think, you know,
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  Speaker 2: some people need them. I'm not, I'm not cursing them as.
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  Speaker 1: A whole, but. No, and there may be times in
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  Speaker 1: my life where like my anxiety isn't driven by performance,
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  Speaker 1: but it's driven by, you know, real life stressors where
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I just want this to go away.
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  Speaker 1: I don't need to be quirky right now. I don't
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  Speaker 1: need to be clever in this moment. What I need
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  Speaker 1: is to calm my body. And in that moment, it'll
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  Speaker 1: be very helpful. But I have learned to use it
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  Speaker 1: as jet fuel and– I like, yeah, now I just
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  Speaker 1: almost like like it and crave it and want to
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  Speaker 1: perform live and want to be put on the spot
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  Speaker 1: to see what comes out.
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  Speaker 3: There's a balance there. That's what we're all looking for.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that that you.
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  Speaker 2: Mentioned the Internet videos, that's something I was kind of wondering, too,
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  Speaker 2: is like just. since you started, you at least had
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  Speaker 2: the option of internet videos, which, you know, back in
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  Speaker 2: the olden days, nobody even had that. But even since
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  Speaker 2: you started doing it, it has changed so much. So
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  Speaker 2: what do you, I don't know, what do you even
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  Speaker 2: think of the market as it is now of just
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  Speaker 2: everybody just throwing stuff out on the internet?
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  Speaker 1: I think it is, I mean, when I was starting it,
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  Speaker 1: it felt like a little bit like garage bandy, like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: everyone's got a band. And some of the bands are
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  Speaker 1: going to hit and some of them aren't. But now
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  Speaker 1: it feels like just like having a business card. It's
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  Speaker 1: like everybody's got to have something that they can send
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  Speaker 1: somebody else to show them that they can do something.
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  Speaker 1: And there's no reason to not have it. Or at least,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the excuses that we used to have about
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  Speaker 1: not having footage don't exist anymore, because our cameras on
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  Speaker 1: our phones are so good. And we can edit for free.
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  Speaker 1: And we can do I mean, we can do like
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  Speaker 1: amazing post effects for free. And now we're AI generating
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  Speaker 1: music like there's, in some ways, it's, you know, for
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  Speaker 1: better or worse, I think, honestly, that in some ways,
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  Speaker 1: this exists in every industry, I've seen, like, how annoyed
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  Speaker 1: small business owners are that now they need to be
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  Speaker 1: content creators, let alone performers need to be content creators,
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  Speaker 1: you know? Um, and also this, this is true for
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  Speaker 1: other businesses where like everyone needs to wear a lot
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  Speaker 1: more hats. Like you can't, you're not really just a
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  Speaker 1: graphic designer anymore. You're also an animator. You're also an
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  Speaker 1: AI image creator. You're also maybe a web developer, you know, like, um,
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  Speaker 1: and that's, true for actors and probably also writers and
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  Speaker 1: maybe also stand-ups now is that like you're not just
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  Speaker 1: doing stand-up you're also editing your videos now and putting
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  Speaker 1: them online and having like a social media strategy at
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  Speaker 1: least when I was starting you know this was maybe
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  Speaker 1: a decade ago it was really just like in the
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  Speaker 1: it was it was fresh YouTube days it was really
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  Speaker 1: like how do you make something good and work with
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  Speaker 1: other people that perhaps have a following so that you
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  Speaker 1: can slowly suck and drip out of their following into
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  Speaker 1: your following and then hopefully retain them. Um, and now
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  Speaker 1: it feels very much more about like, can you make
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  Speaker 1: something that the algorithm likes that has a momentary virality
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  Speaker 1: to it and then keep followers from that, which, um,
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  Speaker 1: If you have the drive and the energy to do,
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  Speaker 1: I think works for people.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It does get people cast in things and it does
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  Speaker 1: get people to fill theaters and they can tour. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think people are a little bit more,
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  Speaker 1: they're more Wild Westy than they've ever been because the
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  Speaker 1: systems that we've relied on to hire us are less reliable.
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  Speaker 2: Just the Wild West now resets itself every few years.
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  Speaker 2: Like I remember those early days of the internet, it
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  Speaker 2: was the Wild West and people did whatever they wanted
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  Speaker 2: back then. Then a system came into play and kind
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  Speaker 2: of set some boundaries. And then five years later, those
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  Speaker 2: boundaries didn't apply anymore. It's Wild West again.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, you really do have to like just manage everything.
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  Speaker 3: So many different.
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  Speaker 2: Things to even compete i think it's just keeping your
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  Speaker 2: head above water now you have to do everything.
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  Speaker 1: So which which i actually feel the most resentful about
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  Speaker 1: now that i am like just a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: tired i'm like i i just don't want everybody to
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  Speaker 1: always have to have a business all the time yeah
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  Speaker 1: i would really love for us to just be like
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  Speaker 1: okay we're a species that inherited this planet like can
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  Speaker 1: we just chill the fuck out do we all need
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  Speaker 1: to be business people all the time can we just
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: enjoy that we have natural wonders around us or can
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: we just go sit in a warm body of water
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  Speaker 1: more regularly that was gifted to us by the earth
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: ah that's.
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  Speaker 3: Going outside I don't know about that yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Just go go outside find find a body of water
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  Speaker 1: and rest in it and that may that be as
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  Speaker 1: rewarding to you as your bitcoin you know And it's, um,
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  Speaker 1: I think that my resentment comes from like how, uh,
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  Speaker 1: expensive and mandatory life requires us to be working all
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  Speaker 1: the time. And I want us to be, uh, resting
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  Speaker 1: and enjoying more.
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  Speaker 3: I definitely am on board with that. There are many
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: times now when I'm like, I just, I just need
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: to stop for a little while. I just, can I
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: just sit down for a minute?
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: So I don't.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Know.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: It doesn't everybody, it's just, it's out of control.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: And I've gotten to that point too. I'm just like,
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: you know, sometimes it's okay. Just go take a nap.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: You'll be fine.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: You'll carry on after that. It's okay.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's maybe real adulting. They say that like adulting
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: is like being able to manage your bills while also exercising,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: while also keeping a clean house, while also staying on
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: top of your job. And I'm like, no, I think
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: real adulting is taking care of your body and mind
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: and friendships and relationships.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Setting limits when you need to set limits and coming
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: to terms with that.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: I don't think most people got that in general.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm working on it still.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned the outdoors.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: I was going to get into at least a few
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: of the movies specifically. So my first thought in putting
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: this together was, well, we definitely need to talk about
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Werewolves Within. So that, I mean... I went back and
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: rewatched it, and the setup for that, it's almost you're
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: being lured into a trap, and pretty much with your character,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: because it spends that first 15, 20 minutes just making
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: her maybe.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: The coolest person ever. Was that a lot?
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Did you feel that reading it before you even made
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: the movie?
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Or as you're in the middle.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Of this, it's like, is this a weird scenario to
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: be like turned into this? again it was just such
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: an idealized person in general that I'm like no nobody's
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: this cool which yes I know that kind of plays
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: into the movie but.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah I mean I think there is that like you
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: know not that she's a manic pixie dream girl but
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: she's a little bit of a dream girl and she's
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: a little bit of like a cool girl like my
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: needs don't matter I'm happy with whatever just put me
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: up in whatever room you got you.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Know um she's low maintenance.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: She's very low maintenance as we like our women to
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: be Um, yeah, I think of that story as actually like,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: and you know, Josh Rubin and Mishna Wolf, who wrote
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: the movie, um, have never talked to me about this.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: And in fact, when I bring this up to them,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: they kind of look wide eyed and like pat me
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: on the back, like, okay, hysterical much. But I think
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: of this as like a wildly feminist story of like
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: a woman who, you know, I don't know. Can we...
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to give away too much, but like... Yeah,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: it's up to you. A woman who comes across as
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: like a perfect woman, a perfect girl, super easygoing, happy
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: with whatever, but is actually like incredibly hurt and taking
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: out her anger on people who are like literally fucking
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: the earth. And... Hurting other women like the people she
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: takes out are the people who cross lines, who don't
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: listen to people when they say no means no. And,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: you know, insert a giant phallus into the earth to
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: suck oil out of it. It's very allegorical to me.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: And I don't think it was anyone's intent. I think
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: they're like, let's just make this giant statue look like
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: a phallus, because it's funny. And I'm like, oh, I
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: get it, because it's Mother Nature's being, you know. And
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I just added so much feminist morality to it that
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure was intended, but I liked to drive
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: that into the character.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Well, definitely, as you're saying that, I'm thinking about it,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, it's a lot of that with you,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: but I think The overarch, and this really doesn't come
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: into play in the way that the movie, you know,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: plays out. But definitely by the end, and that was
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: one of the other cast I was going to bring
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: up is Catherine. By the end, we get to her
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: character and kind of just coming to terms with that
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: same thing. Like, why am I catering to you idiots,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: in particular, all these stupid men that come into my play?
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: So like, yeah, watching her character, I think by the
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: end is maybe more because again, yours goes through a
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: lot of other stuff.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: But hers is a little more.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Like real world of like, no, you know what? I'm
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: done with all of you. So yeah, that definitely is
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: a bait.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: And in like a triangle of sadness kind of way.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: She's like, wait, I have all the power. Like I
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: have a place to stay and I have food. And
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I'm housing all of you ungrateful motherfuckers.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Which is, again, kind of like very evolved feminine. I
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: think my character was more, you know, toxic feminine.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's got some issues, we'll say.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Got a little bit of a problem. She's got some
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: unresolved shit.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you mentioned the go outdoors. So where did
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: you shoot that and how outdoors, how much of that?
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Because it's built so much of that movie is just
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: the scenery and the cold and the trapped and all
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: of it. So how much of that was real for you?
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Really, most of it. I think they did add snowfall
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: here and there. And they added... you know, wind machines
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: and things like that. And I remember them like retouching
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: up our snow for continuity, but we did shoot it
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: in upstate New York in February. So, uh, a lot
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: of it was real and we stayed at little creepy
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: cabins and, um, some people actually stayed at that inn.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I think, I think maybe the producers like slept in
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: rooms at that inn that we shot in.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Did it work well horror wise for you? Are you
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: a horror fan?
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I'm so loud when I'm afraid.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Well, that's just endearing, right? I guess that's the question
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: for whoever's sitting next to you.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I saw Weapons in the movie theater.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Which is awesome.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Which is awesome. And yes, in retrospect, I loved. But
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: during the movie... I yelled so many times and I
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: was sitting between two friends that I would grab onto
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: and subconsciously, I didn't even know I was yelling. But
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: while I'm watching the movie, I'm going, why am I
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: doing this? Who needs this? For what? I could be laughing.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I could be at a comedy. I could be watching Superman.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Why am I doing it? And then... Afterwards, I'm like, wow,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: what a trip. They really, I think it's like going
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: on a roller coaster. It's like, are you a roller
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: coaster person while you're on it? Sometimes you're like, fuck,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: why am I doing this? But some people could be like, woohoo.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: And some people could be shitting themselves and then afterwards
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: be like, let's do it again. I think that's how
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: I feel about horrors. While I'm watching it, I'm like, why.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Did, why of all things?
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Like my life isn't stressful enough. I have to put
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: myself through this synthetic fear. And then afterwards I'm like,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: what a ride.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: It is exhilarating if it's well done. I think that
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: kind of helps, too. Something like that is so well
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: done that it really is a ride. Yeah, that one
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: I do feel like you're better for on the other side.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: And Werewolves Within is a comedy horror.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely fun.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: It's a delightful horror. I think teens could watch it
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: and not have nightmares, you know?
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fun.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: It's fun.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: But yeah, weapons is heavy. There's a lot going on there.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Still kind of fun, though, really. Oh, my God.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: So fun. So fun. Unless you're sitting next to me.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I think the problem, though, too, is that I yell,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: and so I just frighten more people around me. It's
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: just don't– yes, I will watch it, but I just
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: shouldn't watch it in the company of strangers.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: As long as your friends are still friends afterwards, you know,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: it's part of the experience. Yeah.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I appreciate your empathetic approach. You seem like a good guy.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Well, and I think the filmmakers would want that. You know,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: it's like horror in particular, like they want that. And
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: that's one of the few things that I think still
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: works in the theater now is, you know, comedy and horror.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: And you feed off of the people around you and
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: it kind of heightens the whole experience that, you know,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: you don't really get that from dramas and stuff. It's
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: just those two, you know, subgenres that kind of feed
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: off of it.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm, an audience. I agree.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: One of the other ones I wanted to get to,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: I did watch Bad Shabbos recently. That cast is pretty amazing.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: So what was your take on... And again, how is it?
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Is Catherine just following you around? Because she's always like,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: why is she in this too? Don't get me wrong,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: I love her.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish she would follow me. We're talking about
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Catherine Curtin, who is... I mean, she's a blessing to
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: everything she's a part of. She's so passively funny. And,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: you know, she's like a star of stage and screen
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: and the nicest person ever. I just adore her.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: I can actually agree with you. I had her on
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: the show years ago when she had come to a
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: premiere of a movie that was shot near me. And
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: she got on stage afterwards and gave this speech that
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: was like so... Like it was inspiring. It was like
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: she got up there was like because this was a
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: little indie movie and she got in this this whole
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: thing about, you know, supporting independent film and going out
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: there and finding a place for them and building a
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: community to put these together. And by the end was
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: just like so worked up and had the crowd worked up.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: And I was like, this is this is an amazing woman.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: So, yes, she's she's pretty impressive.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and she totally puts her money where her mouth
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: is in that she does all those indies and she
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: works with new creators and she's just so the real deal.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: She's really in it because she loves it and she's
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: so good at it.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: And yet also, you know, you can find her on,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: you know, the biggest streaming TV series.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: In the world right now.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: So it's like when she's also on Stranger Things, I'm like, well,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: she's kind of everywhere. You just have to know where.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: To find her.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I'm going to ask her to marry me.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: That might go.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I'm going to prefer it.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: It seems like a plan.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: But yeah, like Curious Edgwick and David Paber and like
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: just that whole cast was amazing. Like Method Man. I
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: did not expect Method Man to be so damn charming.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Like what is up with that?
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: He's my favorite part of the whole movie.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: He's so much fun.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: He's epic. He's epic. And he had these improvs and
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: he was beatboxing in the elevator.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, I.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I wish I could bring so many people along to
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: this experience because it would mean so much to everyone
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: I went to high school with to just be sitting
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: next to Method Man while he beatboxes. And yeah, he's
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: just built to be a performer.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: And so different from, yeah, I remember seeing him as
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: he was coming into the music scene and was such
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: a different mode and not doing anything all that different
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: than you would expect someone coming into it from where
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: he came from. And then you watch him sort of
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: broaden his horizons and spread his wings. And now you
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: see him and he's got a streaming show now. And
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, he's built a whole new career out
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: of this entirely different persona that's now kind of flourishing. Yes.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's brilliant. I mean, he's just so special. And
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: that movie would not be what it is without him because... He,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: you know, the movie is about a family that accidentally
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: kills somebody on Shabbos. And I think.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Like you do, I mean.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: How many times?
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: You know how we're accidentally violent all the time?
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Oops, you know.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Whoops, I slipped and killed a man. It happens. It's
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: a comedy. We can do these things. But I think
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: his name is Cliff, but Method Man slash Cliff's participation
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: in it, his character's participation in it, like gives us
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: all a pass because he gives us a pass because
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: he's on board. The audience, I think comes on board more.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: You know, like he's like the cool older brother, older uncle.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: That's like, okay, it happens, which makes the audience feel
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: that way. So yeah, I just really think that was,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: that was some clutch. There was a lot of clutch casting.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Kira Sedwick as the mom is like so perfect. She's
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: so beautiful and brought this very grounded, likable, neurotic Jewish
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: mom-ism to it that isn't annoying.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: She does manic very well, but like a reserved, like
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: normal mom version of manic.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's true. And David Pamer, too. I mean,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: the whole cast was really such a gift. Megan Leathers,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: who plays Megan... is also the outsider that approves or
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: jumps on board to protect. And she's somebody that I
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: hadn't seen a lot before, but I think is one
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: of the breakout stars of the movie because she's also
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: so grounded and so funny. And yeah, it's just incredible casting.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: The whole thing was put together really well.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: And really well written.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: It's actually really smartly written, but doesn't lose any of
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: the comedy in the process.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah lots of good comedy definitely and a great message
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: about killing somebody on friday.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Night i mean you got to cover your tracks you
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: know it shows you some of the wrong things to
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: do along the way but in the end you know
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: you got to make sure you stick together and come
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: up with the right cover.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Story and just have method man standing by.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Definitely method man on your side i All right, well,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: if you want, I know we have chosen a movie,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: so we can head into the movie segment here if
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: you are ready.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm ready.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: I will usually give the breakdown. So our unsung cinema
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: feature is Bad Grandpa. The year is 2013. The director
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: is Jeff Tremaine, and the plot, according to IMDb, 86-year-old
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Irving takes a trip from Nebraska to North Carolina... to
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: take his eight-year-old grandson, Billy, back to his real father.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: That's not too far off.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: I'll give him that. So I suppose, spoiler alert, I
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: don't know how much you can spoil this kind of.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: A movie, but I'll throw it out there anyway.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: So I guess my first question is, I threw it
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: out to you, any movie in the world, why this movie?
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: It's one of my favorites. I... Um, you know, I
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: think a lot of people who work in comedy will
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: watch a comedy and kind of like watch it like
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: a science and be like, okay, how was that edited?
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: And what is, what's the line that made that line
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: work and all that? What's the timing and the camera
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: and all that? And then in this movie, I just
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: laugh out loud. I have so, and who, we all
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: need that right now. And I think part of it
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: is that it's my favorite thing about it. is all
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: of the real reactions. So to set it up a
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: little more, it's basically a hidden camera feature film with
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: a real story plot, but it's shot out in the world.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: And there are things that are more planted than others,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: but it's Johnny Knoxville, so it's Jack-esque pranks... But with
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Johnny Knoxville dressed and in very convincing prosthetics as a,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: did you say 78-year-old man?
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: According to IMDb, 86.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: 86.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, as an 86-year-old man with an adorable, also incredibly
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: convincing child, real child, who was like so on board,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: so down, so funny. And they put them in these
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: impossible situations. Also, this is, what was the year you said? 2011, 2013? 2013.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, 2013 it.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Came out, so they probably shot it in like 2011, 2012.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: This is before everybody just had a phone and was
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: filming everything all the time. So there are no real, like,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: there's not a lot of cell phone action in this.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Surprisingly, yeah, even at that point.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You would think more of those would come popping out,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: but yeah, we don't really see a lot.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: But because of that, I think the audience is really different.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: surprised by a lot of the shenanigans. No one's like,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: or maybe if they were, you know, I imagine that
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: like when Borat 2 was filming, they were, there were
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: a lot more people who were like, I'm being tricked.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: I know this is a hidden camera show, but at
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: the time people really bought into it. And so the
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: reactions from people who are watching this old man lay
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: on a what are they called? Like one of those
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: mechanically adjustable beds and watch that bed haywire with this
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: old man in it. Their reactions are golden. Like they
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: are acting lessons in themselves. And you watch those reactions
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: and you go, oh, that's not how actors act when
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: they're surprised. This is only how people act when they're surprised.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: And so I love watching those reactions. I also find
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: the story to be quite heartfelt and even the character
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: the the actors that are plants that are actors are
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: so good in it and um and i you know
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: and then the actor filmmaker part of me is also
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: really i and i i don't know if you're like
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: this but i have a pitch to the entertainment industry
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: after every movie have the option of a documentary about
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: the making of the movie well.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: I mean they kind of have that because also in
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: watching this i watched the 0.5 have you seen that
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: no there there is a because i picked it up
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: thinking i was like oh is this the movie and
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: it's it is called bad grandpa 0.5 because i guess
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: they don't even pretend like it's actually a sequel but
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: essentially they've.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Shot so much footage.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: It was like 60 days of them just going out
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: day after day filming this just to catch some stuff
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: that works, some stuff that doesn't. And like they shot
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: so much. This is basically like feature length, but it's
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: all the other stuff they shot. So there's essentially like,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: so for you, this is, this is the dream project
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: because it's a whole nother movie essentially that.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Is just more of that footage.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: The only thing that's different is this one is more,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: traditional jackass style because you see a lot more behind
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: the scenes. So you'll see him sitting there beforehand going, well,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: we were going to try to get this shot. So
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: it's a little more interview beforehand. You watch it go
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: good or bad. And then they come back and go, yeah,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: that didn't work. So it doesn't have the narrative that
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: like leads you through like the movie does, but it's
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: definitely the same, people the same characters the same people
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: behind the scenes putting this nonsense together so it's very
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: uh it's it's a different vibe because you don't have
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: the story but yeah if you're looking for more reactions
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: from people there is a whole nother 90 minutes waiting
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: for you.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Oh my god so.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Thank you immediately when we're done you're out to tear
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: out and buy some physical media Cause I didn't see
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: it streaming. Like the movie comes up streaming, but I
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: think this was something they just put out on, on
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: physical media. So again, I'm usually pushing people to go
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: buy some physical media.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: So points to them for putting it out.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: That's so cool. That's so cool. That's exactly what I
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: always want with every movie. Now it exists for my favorite.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: See, there you go.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Maybe they heard you like the movie.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: I had, what's weird is I hadn't seen it. I
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: feel like I'd watched at least the first Jackass movie,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: maybe in the theater.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: I can't remember. It's sad.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: But it's so different than a Jackass movie.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: But it's definitely different.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Again, like you, you get the Johnny Knoxville vibe more
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: or less, but the thing that sets it apart and
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: that's what, because i was i was watching it and
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: i'm going through and i'm like is the narrative necessary
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: because that was the big difference and i'm like do
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: we do we need that because it's still bits essentially
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: so we're still like every time they stop you could
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: just it's just a different skit from you know much
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: like the jackass show it would just be like every
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: minute they'd go to another thing so i'm like but
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: as it went on it at least gave it momentum
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: and gave it. And like I said, I think I
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: liked it better presented that way than watching the documentary
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: version of it.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: It's different.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Like I, again, it kind of breaks it and it really,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: it kind of makes them seem a little more like jackasses,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: no pun intended, but like you see them setting it
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: up and you see them being like these jerky guys
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: that just want to cause problems with each other behind
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: the scenes. Where you take all of that out within
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: the context.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Of the movie.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: He's not purposefully doing this. These things just keep happening
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: to him from the storyline. But yeah, I think the
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: main thing that carries it through for me is Billy.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: And not necessarily even the narrative, but that kid. This
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Jackson kid. Yeah.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: He's so real.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: He can carry out the performance. Because most kids... knowing
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: that they're acting, would get in there and mess something
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: up or would break character. He never really has character.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: He is still essentially himself, but he also comes off
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: super genuine while being committed to whatever dumb thing they're
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: making him do. So it's like he is so good
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: at carrying the stuff that they're throwing him into that
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: you totally buy it.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: And he still seems like a real kid.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Yes. I think he.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: I read somewhere that he met Johnny Knoxville on another project.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: I think it's Fun Size. Oh, they met on Fun Size.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: I think he was on Fun Size with him, yeah.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: And he just kept hitting him in the nuts.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: Which seems about right.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: And again, if anything will endear you to Johnny Knoxville,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: that's probably it.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like someone else fucking with him.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, they gave it a name eventually. They
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: called it the Jackson 5. His five fingers going in.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: That's very nice.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: So he's like, hey, hey, you'd like the Jackson 5?
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: And then anybody on the set would get a Jackson 5.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow. Yeah. A nightmare. But also, and I don't
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: even have testicle. I'm just so deeply compassionate. I just
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: think you have to find a kid who really loves
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: fucking with people. And he does. You just found a
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: kid who wants to do this. Also, this child, this
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: is what I'm really curious about. It's like, how do
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: we get this guy on the phone? Like, what's his name?
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Jackson Nickel, who was maybe like 10 or 12 at
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: the time. Like, how do we get that guy on
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: the phone now? What's he doing?
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Well, I was going to say, have you seen it now?
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Because I only, just in doing, it's sad that I
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: did as much research on Bad Grandpa as I did.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know that anyone planned on ever doing research
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: on bad grandpa, but I did go down many a
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: rabbit hole. And one of which was, it's really funny
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: that the opening of this movie is him like, can
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: we go fishing? And like all he wants to do,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: he's convinced he's trying to tell grandpa they need to
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: like move to Japan and start working for a fishing company.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: And like this the whole time is like, I just
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: want to go fishing.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: That's all he did.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: As a grown up, like all I basically all I
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: found was his Instagram and his Instagram is just him
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: out on a big boat, like fishing with people, holding
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: up fish on just all these posts.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: I'm scrolling through it now.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: It's all fishing.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: They maybe pulled that from real life.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: I know. The kid really liked fishing.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: It's really just a guy and a bunch of big
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: fish consistently.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: And then at the very end, he gets engaged.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: So now he's all grown up and stuff. What the hell?
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: But you know what?
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: It seems like he turned out like pretty normal.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: I know, surprisingly, because usually you get this kid that's
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: that talented this early and throw him in the middle
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: of this and then it just becomes a train wreck.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: But no, he seems like he had like a normal
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: life at some point. So that's awesome.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: The scene that I think about when I imagine him
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: being a broken grown-up is the scene where he is
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: the beauty pageant scene. Yeah, yeah.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: That's the one I was like, I don't know that
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: they would do now.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: No, I don't. I don't think they would. Also, what
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: were his parents thinking? But honestly, it seems like they
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: just knew their kid. I have a four-year-old boy, and
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I could see... It's not necessarily his style, but I
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: could see how he could be into it. Especially if
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: he wants to be an actor. He's like... how much
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: of this was like pressured onto him and how much
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: of this was like a hell yes from the child.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: But there's a scene- I think.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: You could tell if he was being forced in that
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: scene in particular, because he's just, he gets up there
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: and he's such a ham that you're just like, oh
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: my God, this is just, he's just having a ball
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: doing it.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: And like, yeah, I.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Don't- Part of the behind the scenes that they play
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: when they run the credits is this boy. Okay, so
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: in this scene, the grandpa learns that there's a big
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: cash prize at this beauty pageant. So they enroll this
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: boy in a girl's beauty pageant in drag. And he,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: first of all, fucking crushes it. Like every other element
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: of it, he's better than all the little girls who
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: are professional pageant girls.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Which, by the way, that main girl is creepy. The
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: one they keep going to.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, this is like all of those bad
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: documentary shows about pageant girls.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: She is like the center of it all. Like she
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: is so creepy.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that reporter must have been a plant and they
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: did such a good job. I mean, that's like. That's
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: good filmmaking to be like, okay, we're going to need
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: to get like, I'm like, what is the pre-production here?
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Is that they're like, we're going to want to get
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: interviews with the little girls and all these little girls
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: are probably going to want to talk to a female reporter.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: So let's get like a pretty female reporter to walk
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: around with a camera and do something for the local news.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: And again, this is like 2011. And so all these
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: little girls want to be on the local news. And
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: this is now where moms would be like, no, we
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: don't want this footage to live forever. We know that
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: that's what happened. But in 2011, they're like, sure, make
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: my little girl famous. And then they, yeah, she's creepy.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Her mom is also creepy.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Well, she looks just like her. Like you can see,
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: she is the mini me to her. Like it is
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: so disturbing.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: But Jackson is doing the sexy walk. He's dressed in
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: like a little sailor outfit. And then, oh, he starts
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: singing some like little sailor song. I don't remember what
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: it was. Do you remember what it was?
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Uh, he does it again later in the, actually the
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: crew starts singing it to him and then he starts
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: doing the dance, but I can't something. I don't remember.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: It's like an old timey.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, it starts as like an.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Old timey and then ends as like Def Leppard where
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: he rips off his little sailor girl outfit. And underneath
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: is a bra. He keeps his wing wig on, but
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: underneath is like a full, he does a full stripper
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: outfit on a pole, a whole dance number. And everyone
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: in the audience is like covering their eyes, covering their
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: children's eyes. There are judges who are shocked. Although I
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: did see in one bit of like red carpet interview
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: with the director where he did say one of the
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: judges knew. And so I think they had like strategic
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: plans throughout where one person would know to help the
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: others like play along.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Here's one that I, as I, as specifically by the
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: time we got to that scene, I was watching it going.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Cause as I'm going through, I'm also playing the like
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: real world game of like, how the hell did they
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: do this? And where did they, so when we got
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: to that one, by the end, I was like, is
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: the whole thing they're doing? Like, did they so far
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: in advance, like they put up flyers, they set this
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: whole thing.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: And I don't know this for sure.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, because they seem to have such a
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: handle on what was.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: Going to happen.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Like again, maybe the other judges didn't even know they
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: just hired people thinking they were coming in to judge
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: a beauty pageant. And like all of the moms got,
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: you know, they just signed up like normal and every
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: other one of these they do.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: So like they, I, was trying.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: To decide if they just completely fabricated the entire beauty
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: pageant so that then at least they don't feel bad
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: ruining someone else's beauty pageant. They made it up, so
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: it's okay if they ruin it.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Well, he said that the director said in this red
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: carpet interview that none of the reactions are staged.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: No, I believe that.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: So they didn't even really use the reactions of people
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: who know. Yeah.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: And I don't think there were that many.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: I think it was just mostly the crew people that
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: they needed to have the cameras running. But yeah, it
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: seems like most of the people in all the sets
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: were pretty genuine reactions.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: So impressive.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Such impressive filmmaking. I wish there was a way to
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: do this again and I could be a part of it.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, you could.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: It's just a little more difficult now.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: The thing that's maybe most impressive, and this was the.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Funniest part when I got to this, in all the
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: facts about this, there literally on the rundown says, the
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: first Jackass movie to receive.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: An Academy Award nomination.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh my God. there's a statement you
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: didn't expect ever to see but it's for makeup and
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: it's so damn good.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Yes and they use the same makeup team as Borat
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: 2 used I don't know if Borat 1 used the
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: same one but there is a very special little office
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: that like an hour and a half outside of LA
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: that does all of this incredible special effects makeup. And
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: I had to go there once for a job and
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: they have the Johnny Knoxville face.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: In the display.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Well, it's what they were nominated for.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, they, they, Kind of needed to be. I
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: think it's, it's like 11 different prosthetics. It said in
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: like a three hour process every morning that Johnny was
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: on the behind the scenes complaining about.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: Cause that's his least favorite part.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: And it's not just, it's not just like it works
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: on camera. It had to work in real life. It
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: had to be really good.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: Which they even in the, in the behind the scenes,
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: they're showing the stuff because they came up with her
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: being like back when they first started jackass and they're
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: showing the old stuff and the old stuff.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: Looks like bad.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: Prosthetic makeup like it looks like somebody dressed up like
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: an old person which they've been doing for years in
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: movies and a lot of them you can even go
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: back and watch and be like oh yeah this looks
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: like a whole bunch of makeup on this person right
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: they show it in like the first movie and they
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: show it in the second movie they bring him back
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: and it gets a little better but yeah by the
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: time you get to this like it's it's pretty convincing
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: like i think you would you would be able to
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: trick a lot of people even standing in front of
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: them yeah.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: It's incredible It's incredible. And that is why it's my
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: favorite movie. Maybe top five, but it is really special.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: And like I said, it's just rare. First of all,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: comedies are just so much rare. But to have something
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: that really makes you laugh out loud by yourself at home,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: it's one of those for me.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Again, I spent so much time trying to figure out
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: the behind the scenes of it, of just like, how
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: did they get insurance for this movie?
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I bet they winged a lot of it or
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: like when, yeah, when they mess up the, uh, the motorcycles.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: When he crashes into the motorcycle, which I was like,
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: did they buy all those and plant them there?
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: I would hope because yeah.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: How do you cover those costs if it was somebody
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: who's actual motorcycle?
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: So yeah, most of it was.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: Like, how much am I trying to decide what's the
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: plant and what's not? And what are you destroying that
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: already belongs to you anyway? And you just set it
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: up there the day before and like, but like the
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: one when he catapults himself through a plate window, which
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: I'm sure was breakaway glass, but still I'm watching it going,
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: you don't know that.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: Somebody is not going to get hit with something in that.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: I was like, they're, they're pretty far away, but you
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: don't know that's going to happen in the moment. I
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: was like, how the hell?
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: And there's such like a business around it. There's so
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: many people, there's vendors outside selling things. So I'm like,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: how did all those people get there? And how did
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: they not see them replace that glass or put in
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: breakaway glass? Or, you know, how did they ever test?
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Did they never test this?
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: Probably not. Again, knowing how much they wing so much
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: of their lives. Yeah. Maybe not.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: Which, again, is kind of impressive that there's not a
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: horror story behind this of, like, Johnny Knoxville dead or
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: some stuntman got killed.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: We see that occasionally in movies, and surprisingly, it's not this.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: One, because some of it I don't know how they.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: At least not all of them are, like, death-defying. It's
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: just he's gonna get beat up a lot of times.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: There's many a time I'm like, yeah, I know Johnny's
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: okay with getting punched in the face, because that's almost
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: like a badge of honor if he suckers somebody that.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: Much, but.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: There's definitely moments when I'm like, oh, yeah, he's pretty
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: close right here.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: I wonder, like... how all of the injuries and concussions
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: have affected him now. And he's probably like 50 now, right? Yeah.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: I think he's in, definitely in his like fifties. And
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: I thought they were going to stop because I thought
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: he literally had like, it had become like a brain
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: injury that like, he's still functioning, but like it took,
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: there was some, cause I do remember seeing an interview
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: with him. Like he was out of commission for like
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: a year or more of like trying to go through,
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: I think mental therapy to some extent and definitely physical
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: therapy because it was affecting his basic process because he'd
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: taken so many hits to the head. Like he literally
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: had concussions.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: The shoulder and the hip and the knee and all
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: of the normal things that start hurting when you're 50.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: That I can understand just from all the abuse he's
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: taken over the years. But yeah, I think it got
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: to the point of like enough concussions and taking a toll.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: On his brain that.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a football player. you should probably yeah just
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: just it's okay do some more regular acting because i
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: actually like him and other stuff lately i love that
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: reboot series he was really good in like i like
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: that it's i'm like i like i like your regular
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: acting it's okay you don't have to hit yourself in
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: the head with.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: Stuff i mean.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Must hit self in head it just can't stop.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: It was done at every audition Looking at his list
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: of stuff lately, it was funny. I was hit and
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: miss on that History of the World Part 2, but
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: casting Johnny Knoxville as Rasputin is maybe the most genius
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: moment of the whole thing. As everyone's continually trying to
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: kill Rasputin. Of course it's Johnny Knoxville.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: That's perfect.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know. I think so much of
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: that is sort of built around the reaction and how
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: much they... They plan stuff out ahead of time because
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: it is interesting going back and watching it after if
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: you see that behind the scenes stuff, because the behind
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: the scenes version of it, there's almost nothing with the
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: kid because I.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: Think there's so much.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: Speaking of the insurance, I'm sure there's so much of
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: the stuff that they can't even have the kid around.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: Like all the all the times Johnny smacks the car
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: into something, he can't even be in the car. So, like,
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: the behind-the-scenes version of him hitting the penguin.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: He's not even in the car. There's a dummy in
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: the spot next to them.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: So when that guy comes out and starts giving him grief,
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: eventually the stuff that's not in the theatrical cut, he
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: goes in and, like, he doesn't even question why there's
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: a child-sized dummy in the seat. The guy yanks the
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: dummy out and starts flinging it around at Johnny as
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: he's arguing with him. So, like, there's all this weird...
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: cut around that they do successfully in the movie that
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: like now watching it when he goes over to the
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: car and says to johnny that an insert shot of
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: him like hey watch this and i'm like dude he
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: wasn't anywhere near that car so like they do such
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: a convincing job of cutting out the real world stuff
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: that was like again it's it's pieced together better than
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: you would expect a movie that you know oh it's
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: a jackass movie but their editing is pretty impressive.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: Oh my God. They're editing.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: It's, it's unreal. And it's, yeah, it's perfect.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: Including editing out one of the more talented actresses out there.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, the, the dead body is supposed to be
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: Catherine Keener, who is in a lot of the behind
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: the scenes version.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: They shot a bunch.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: Of bits with her.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: They took her out of the movie.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: That must've been what happened. Yeah.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: So most that you see her is a dummy that's
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: made to look like her that's being toted around.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. She's in a lot of the behind the scenes
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: and not in a lot of the movie.
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: But yeah, there's a good amount.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: There's several scenes of her in the, in that other
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: movie that you're going to run out and buy now.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: So you do get to see her as, as you know,
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: being the, and again, she's so serious in most of
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: her roles. So seeing her, hanging out with these dorks,
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: making these ridiculous scenes come to life.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: Living my dream.
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: I want to be cut out of a prank movie.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: She stole your life.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: Damn it. But that, yeah, that was interesting. I think that,
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: to me, was maybe the most fascinating.
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: Because, again, the.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: Weirder sex jokes and the scatological humor... I think I
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: got over pretty quick. To me, the way more interesting
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: stuff was the dead body stuff. When I'm like, when
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: you're coming face to face with that is one of
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: these people that doesn't know. And they're like, okay. Like
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: you just see them trying to process in the moment
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: of like, how do I deal with this? And then
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: how do I get out of this scenario? Because this
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: guy's got a dead body. I could be next.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: You're talking about the scene where he hires movers to
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: move a body. I think about like how many movers
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: did they have to bring in for this? Like how
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: many different people did they call? How much did they
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: pay him to put a body? And he even says
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: at the end, he's like, well, I had to say
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: I needed you to move a bed because if I
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: had said dead body, I don't think anyone would have answered.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: And they're just like, fuck you, dude. Like they take
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: the money at the end and they're just like, fuck you.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: I can't believe you made us do that.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: You've got the little kid going, thanks for the crime.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: Thanks for doing the crime. Yeah, thanks for the crime.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: I was like, yeah.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: And then I also imagine their relief when they say,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: you know, this is a hidden camera show because they
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: have to get them to sign something, I'm sure. And
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: that must be a joy for them too. I love
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: that I started this out by being like, I'm totally
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: engrossed in this movie and I don't think about the
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes. And I'm like, no way. Actually, I'm
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: always thinking about the behind the scenes. I'm thinking about
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: the pre-production and the post-production content. when watching this movie.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: I definitely was.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing that's impressive, there's hardly any people blurred out.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: So that means they got almost everybody to sign this
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: waiver that I'm like, were they paying after the fact?
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: I was like, they had to have been.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: That's the beauty of 2011.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: There's one lady in the bingo scene that's blur out, like,
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: right in the center. And I'm just like, either this
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: old lady just didn't want to have anything to do
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: with you.
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: Guys, or she just, like, disappeared on them. They're just like,
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: she was gone.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they just couldn't get her to sign.
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: They were just like, where did this lady go?
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: She's just like, I can't be on camera for other reasons.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: But, yeah, everybody else, like, no matter if they're, like,
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: in the middle of the strip club, which you think
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: maybe not everybody wants to sign off that.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: They were there. But, like, no, no, they had everybody
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: on board. And, like.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: There's some crazy stuff that you're admitting you were part of.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think the dead body one was the
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: most interesting. And again, when the cutout version they did
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: where he had it at home and he brought a
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: guy out with like a backhoe to dig a hole
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: in the backyard, again, telling him it was to like
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: plant a tree. And then he's like, well, now that
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: I got you here, I really just want to give
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: my wife a home burial.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: Can you help me carry her out there?
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And there's like two guys that do it.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: Incredible. Yeah, I also, you know, I know they did
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: this with Borat and I wonder if this is true here,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: is that really you have to talk to the people
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: about non-weird things for about 30 minutes and then once
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: in a while bring up something weird. And then in
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: the edit, they just use the weird thing.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, although you just run into that, because I
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: have to say, as I'm watching this, I'm thinking of
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: like times when I'm like, I've ended up in weird
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: scenarios with people saying weird stuff. And I'm like, I
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: sometimes I'm like, I wish this was a hidden camera show,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: but then at least I wouldn't, I would be relieved
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: that this didn't just happen. But yeah, there are so
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: many times when people will just say weird stuff in
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: the real world. And I'm like, all right, whatever.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: It's a Tuesday. This is going on.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: So I feel like they're just going with it. Be like, okay,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: here's a weirdo. There's a lot of weirdos out there.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I know. But it's also like such a
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: example of human psychology that we are just talked into
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: things like that. Or there's enough that we can just
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: be told like, ah, come on, just help me. Oh, well,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: all you need to do is this. And people are like, okay, fine.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: I think it's just the get it over with scenario.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: Like there's so many people that are just like, What
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: do I have to do to get out of this.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: As quickly as possible?
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: And they're like, help you. OK, I'll help you here.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: Like, let's do this. OK, I'm buying.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: Bye.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: I'm leaving now. I feel like that's how.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: A lot of us get through those weird scenarios in
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: real life. And they just happen to be filming these.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true. I mean, I'm I think I'm most
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: grateful that every time I've had a let's just get
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: it over with situation, it hasn't been filmed.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: But yeah, that's your dream.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: I would prefer it.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: You just want it to be Johnny Knoxville.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: I guess if at the end of it, it's Johnny Knoxville,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: then fine, film it. I will betray my morals and
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: integrity for him. Yeah.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: All right. Good to know. We've drawn the line. It's
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: Johnny Knoxville.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: That's where the line is. Well, thank you so much
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: for having me on. This has been so fun.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: I thank you for, for giving me a movie and
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: this was.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: Definitely an interesting one. And, uh, I, I, I feel
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: like that's kind of what put this together for me.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: It's like I've talked to people for years and the
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: more I deal with people in the real world and
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: the more I come in contact with, again, in those awkward,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: let's get it over with scenarios, there's so much I
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: don't have in common with everyone in the world. But
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: I feel like there's just so many weird people out there.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: And one of the few things that I can find
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: that I connect with people on is movies.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: So I feel like that's the one thing we have.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: Our love of films kind of brings people together or
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: hopefully does. So I thank you for coming along on
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: this journey. And do you have new stuff you want
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: to tell people about? I know there is a giant
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: movie coming out. I didn't know if you were supposed
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: to be talking about that.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, there's a giant movie coming out called Project Hail
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Mary that is out on March 20th, only in theaters
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: and in IMAX. And I think it's going to be
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: a really, really, really good movie. It's a Ryan Gosling
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: directed by Lord Miller. And I think it's going to
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: be really special. And I think it's going to be
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: good for all ages. And I think there's a beautiful
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: takeaway from it. It's based on a gorgeous book. And
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: I think it's actually going to be visually stunning. The cinematography,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: the post effects, it will be studied for generations to come.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: And then at one point they'll be like, oh, Anne
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Milano's in it. Somebody's going to say that. Somebody's going
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: to bring it up on your podcast in like 20 years.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: And then you're going to be like, oh, yeah, Anne
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: Milano was in that. She was on the show once.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: They'll be like, oh, no, remember? back when she was just,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: you know, she was just in that movie before she
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: took over and, you know, became the superstar that we
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: all know her as.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: Before she revitalized that Beethoven series.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: Well, no, I think that's what we, okay, wait, I'm
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: piecing it together for you. So it's a hidden camera
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: show where you take a giant dog around with you
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: and whatever crazy things the dogs do.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: You get genuine reactions.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, I think we found your true calling now. Like,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: I think this is it, but.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for this time because I would never
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: have found out what my true calling is without you.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: It's all come together.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: So, wow.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: This has been a beautiful experience for me. So do you.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you for coming along on this journey.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Thanks for having me.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: Definitely. Otherwise, that about does it. Thanks for listening. This
• 1:05:19
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• 1:05:22
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• 1:05:26
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