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Best Of Full Show: Cast Of Harlem Interview, Trump Signing Executive Orders Topic, Chloe Bailey, Derrick Johnson & Scott Mills Interview + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Some morning show.
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Speaker 2: Me better know that's the people's choice. The Saluta on
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Speaker 2: my life skined brothers out there just hilarious.
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Speaker 3: That's for the world. I last.
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Speaker 1: Just don't do no what man, Charlemagne talk you to
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Speaker 1: tell me? Everybody come to the breakfast club.
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Speaker 4: I call this the hot seat nor breakfast cub.
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Speaker 5: It's like you America's front port.
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Speaker 6: Don't feel like my miss Puss. I've never called any pub.
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Speaker 7: Every time I go to the breakfast club, I know
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Speaker 7: it's gonna be like the food man I'm.
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Speaker 8: Getting it's a new day.
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Speaker 1: Is it your time to get it off your chest?
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Speaker 9: Wait?
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Speaker 1: Wait up for your man or bleat, it's time to
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Speaker 1: get up and get something. Call up now eight hundred
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Speaker 1: and five eighty five one O five one. We want
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Speaker 1: to hear from you on the breakfast club. Hello, who's this?
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Speaker 8: Oh my gosh? Did I get through?
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Speaker 1: Oh my god? Who's this?
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Speaker 9: Oh my god?
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Speaker 8: This is Amanda from Virginia.
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Speaker 10: Virginia seventy five seven. Whatever man to get off your chest?
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Speaker 5: Okay?
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Speaker 8: So, like I just quit my teaching jobs. I'm gonna
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Speaker 8: try not to cry. If it was something really hard
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Speaker 8: for me to give up and everything after six years
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Speaker 8: and I'm scared right now because I have no idea
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Speaker 8: what I'm supposed to do or anything like that. And
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Speaker 8: I just turned twenty eight, and I feel like I'm
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Speaker 8: failing at life. So I need some advice.
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Speaker 11: You are not failing at life, man. You know. One
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Speaker 11: of my affirmations this morning was embraced everything that happens
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Speaker 11: to you. And you know, being at you twenty eight,
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Speaker 11: you'll realize this as you get older, everything is just
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Speaker 11: part of a process. You gotta trust your instincts. Your
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Speaker 11: instincts told you that you didn't want to teach you
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Speaker 11: no more, right right, all right, Like I'm.
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Speaker 8: Helping passing, so that be like I was having panic
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Speaker 8: attacks and everything is just seeking is not what it
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Speaker 8: used to be at all. And so I love the kids,
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Speaker 8: used to love the profession, but I just felt so
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Speaker 8: undervalued and unappreciated, like it was just it was hard.
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Speaker 8: So right now up because I'm about to go instacart
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Speaker 8: and hopefully i'll make a little something. I still I figured.
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Speaker 11: Out that's what you should do. My mom is a
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Speaker 11: public school teacher. I was a public school teacher, so
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Speaker 11: I understand. I think that y'all are very underpaid. Undervalued
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Speaker 11: and underappreciated. So thank you for your service as a teacher.
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Speaker 11: But now you just got to pray and see what
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Speaker 11: God is going to lead you next, because He's God
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Speaker 11: is definitely telling you that you should be doing h
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Speaker 11: something else. You just got it. You probably already know
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Speaker 11: what it is. You're probably just scared to do it
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Speaker 11: right now. Right, you already know what it is, don't you.
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Speaker 8: You said, what can't put my cash up out there?
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Speaker 8: Help you?
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Speaker 11: That's not what that is not that is not without God.
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Speaker 11: God for you tell me what else God is telling
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Speaker 11: you to do before we get to the.
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Speaker 5: Cash app up.
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Speaker 8: So that's that's all I got at the.
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Speaker 1: Moment, One step at a time. Go ahead, then go
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Speaker 1: ahead with your cash up.
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Speaker 10: I rather cash apter only fans. Go ahead, mama, there
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Speaker 10: you go.
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Speaker 8: See all right, it's solid time. Amanda capital A M
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Speaker 8: A and D and I see non sick.
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Speaker 11: Hold on, I say it again, A M A and D.
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Speaker 8: A yes, and I see non sick.
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Speaker 1: And I see nine.
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Speaker 11: Oh, Amanda, Nick, Amanda Chandler, that's you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you look like a school teacher.
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Speaker 10: You're gonna put something hell cash?
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Speaker 11: Yeah, just sent her a little Oh there you go.
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Speaker 11: I just sent you. I love I love school teachers.
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Speaker 4: Man.
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Speaker 11: I think school teachers. Yeah, Like I said, I think
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Speaker 11: y'all are undervalued and underappreciated. We trust our kids with
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Speaker 11: y'all every day, and we live in a messed up
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Speaker 11: society because y'all should be making six figures a year
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Speaker 11: just because of what y'all got to deal with.
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Speaker 8: To be honest with you, so harding out here now,
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Speaker 8: I want to go into the mental health. I'm doing
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Speaker 8: a sweet career switch, so I'm just hoping it all
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Speaker 8: works out. I'm praying and thank you guys. I really
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Speaker 8: appreciate you. Stick on my call. I listen to you.
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Speaker 4: Guys.
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Speaker 11: Ever, did get you got what I sent you and
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Speaker 11: said it went through?
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Speaker 12: Yes, it did.
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Speaker 8: Thank you so much.
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Speaker 2: All right, get it off your chest eight hundred five
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Speaker 2: eight five one oh five one. If you need to
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Speaker 2: vent phone lines of wide open. It's the breakfast club.
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Speaker 2: Good morning, the breakfast Club.
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Speaker 11: This is your time to get it off your chest,
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Speaker 11: whether you're mad or blessed, so we get anything we
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Speaker 11: want to hear from you on the breakfast clubs.
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Speaker 9: Hello, good morning.
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Speaker 10: This is a drena you did off your chest, Mama.
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Speaker 9: I'm a little nervous, but I really want people to
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Speaker 9: reach out to your friends and family, check on them
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Speaker 9: to make sure that they're okay. It's been almost eight
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Speaker 9: months since I lost my soulmate to suicide, and when
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Speaker 9: he committed suicide, we was on a break, but we
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Speaker 9: were still very much in communication with each other. But
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Speaker 9: I knew something was wrong, and my gut told me
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Speaker 9: to go check, but my head said no, don't do it.
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Speaker 9: And had I listened to my gut, I would have
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Speaker 9: known something was wrong and could have been able to help. Also,
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Speaker 9: with women and their children, when you have a man
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Speaker 9: that wants to be in the lives of their kids,
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Speaker 9: you shouldn't use the child as a poem to get
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Speaker 9: back because no one never ever thought that he would
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Speaker 9: commit suicide because of what was happening with his children.
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Speaker 9: So I just want people to just be aware of
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Speaker 9: those things.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, yes, ma'am.
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Speaker 11: Well, definitely sending you healing in agy queen.
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Speaker 10: Yes, thank you, Absolutely all right, Mama.
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Speaker 1: I have a blessed that you guys do the same.
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Speaker 1: He's very heavy this morning.
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Speaker 5: You got the money?
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Speaker 1: Hello? Who's this?
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Speaker 12: Hello?
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Speaker 10: This is blind Tommy.
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Speaker 1: What's your tour?
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Speaker 12: I'm bad because I'm cut. I'm a blind, broke comedian.
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Speaker 11: Are you so?
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Speaker 7: So?
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Speaker 11: You got to pick one?
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Speaker 13: Now?
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Speaker 11: Which one you mad about? Being blind, being broke, or
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Speaker 11: being a comedian?
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Speaker 1: All three?
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Speaker 11: Well you shouldn't learn to see the bright shot?
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Speaker 1: Damnit?
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Speaker 14: How you people not just stealing your money?
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Speaker 12: I ain't got nobody to steal.
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Speaker 10: Damn.
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Speaker 11: I think I think you might be looking at this wrong.
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Speaker 11: Were you born blind?
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Speaker 1: Look at you? You don't look at it?
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Speaker 12: Was blind five years ago?
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Speaker 11: Okay, okay, so well you're newly blind.
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Speaker 10: You don't con Damn? How'd you get blind?
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Speaker 15: Sir?
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Speaker 12: So funk has gotten my system and they attacked my
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Speaker 12: optic nerves.
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Speaker 1: Damn? Sorry that bro?
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Speaker 9: Have you?
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Speaker 11: Have you learned any new skills? Have anything? Have anything else?
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Speaker 11: Scrimpened a little bit, but not that too much?
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Speaker 1: Got you?
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Speaker 11: Got you? How can we help you this morning?
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Speaker 1: Brother? What can we do for you?
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Speaker 11: Whatever?
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Speaker 1: We'll see what we can do whatever it is? Off book?
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Speaker 12: How get a book deal?
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Speaker 16: Man?
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Speaker 12: Work for you?
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Speaker 11: You want a book deal? I'm be honest with you.
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Speaker 11: I'm interested in the story. I can't say they act
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Speaker 11: like I wouldn't want to hear more of the story.
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Speaker 1: What are you talking about?
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Speaker 3: Brailbooks.
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Speaker 1: You want to write correct this morning and you get
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Speaker 1: get my guys information.
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Speaker 11: I'm interested in hearing the story I want to see
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Speaker 11: if it might be a story there.
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Speaker 1: You never know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, hold on Tom, okay, all right, hold on time,
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Speaker 2: get it off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five
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Speaker 2: one O five one. If you need to vent, hit
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Speaker 2: us up now. It's the Breakfast Club.
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Speaker 10: Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Only everybody, It's d J
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Speaker 10: n V Jess hilarious, Charlamage the guy.
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Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club. You got some special guest
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Speaker 2: in the building. Indeed, you have the cast of Harlem.
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Speaker 1: It's making good.
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Speaker 2: Say your name Jerry Johnson and Tyler Leflie.
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Speaker 1: Welcome.
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Speaker 10: How y'all feeling this morning?
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Speaker 14: Times phenomenal, amazing study, so good.
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Speaker 11: Don't make sure everybody house is good.
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Speaker 2: Appreciate Okay, okay, let's get right into it. Harlem is
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Speaker 2: back January twenty third on Amazon Prime. But sadly they
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Speaker 2: say this is the last season. Why so many people
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Speaker 2: watch it? So many people are into it? How did
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Speaker 2: they just do it like that?
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Speaker 1: Ask Prime?
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Speaker 17: We're really really sad, and I think like everybody's super
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Speaker 17: sad because we had so much story to tell, and
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Speaker 17: so like, if we did have more seasons, this would
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Speaker 17: have the stories would have been so good. But they
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Speaker 17: did such an amazing job truncating it bringing it down
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Speaker 17: into this final season.
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Speaker 5: I think everybody's gonna be happy. But hopefully we get
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Speaker 5: a movie.
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Speaker 2: Okay, did y'all know it was gonna be the final
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Speaker 2: season when y'all started taping?
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Speaker 1: Did you know that already? Did y'all find a halfway through? Id?
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Speaker 13: No, not halfway through. I think I found out a
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Speaker 13: little late, but sometimes I'm in my own world. But
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Speaker 13: I found out the day of the reading as we
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Speaker 13: were reading it. Now going into knowing that it was
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Speaker 13: the last season?
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Speaker 5: Are you saying we were reading? No before I knew it,
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Speaker 5: but I hadn't read the last two.
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Speaker 13: I thought they were saving the last two episodes, so
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Speaker 13: I didn't know, you know, And then as we were
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Speaker 13: reading it, I was like, oh, no, this is it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: But did y'all been doing a lot on the side
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Speaker 2: as well? Y'all been engaged, never having babies music?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's true, it's true.
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Speaker 2: So how were y'all doing all of that on the
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Speaker 2: side as well as taping the show?
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Speaker 5: You know what's interesting?
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Speaker 18: Is that as we've been taping the show, because we.
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Speaker 5: Started what we start twenty twenty, okay.
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Speaker 18: Twenty twenty, and then we got like maybe three episodes in,
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Speaker 18: then COVID happened, and then we took a break, then
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Speaker 18: we came back, then we had a year off, then
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Speaker 18: we went through striking all these different things. But during
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Speaker 18: the duration of all these things, we were experiencing life.
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Speaker 18: We were having all kinds of life changes and having
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Speaker 18: conversations in between because not only are we, you know,
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Speaker 18: friends on the show, we're like sisters in real life,
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Speaker 18: but also with Tracy and then saying with Tyler, like
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Speaker 18: that's our brother, that's our family, but each one of
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Speaker 18: us we're experiencing things that, you know, as Tracy spoke
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Speaker 18: to us, she's like, what do you think about this?
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Speaker 1: And what do you think about that?
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Speaker 18: And I know you're on this journey and you know,
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Speaker 18: do you mind if I implement this? And all of that,
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Speaker 18: so so much of it is actually mirrored in the
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Speaker 18: show of what we were experiencing. So it kind of
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Speaker 18: made it seamless in that way, and you know, you
10:22
Speaker 18: have a specific story about that, but yeah, just everything,
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Speaker 18: it just it feels like it was a part of
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Speaker 18: our actual real lives.
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Speaker 1: So what's your story with that?
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Speaker 17: No, so we were talking about this, but you know
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Speaker 17: how Quinn goes through her depression journey in season two.
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Speaker 17: I did a lot of research on depression because it
10:36
Speaker 17: wasn't something I was personally dealing with at the time,
10:38
Speaker 17: but I wanted to reflect it in a very honest way.
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Speaker 17: So went through that, did that research, and then I
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Speaker 17: had the baby, and then I was diagnosed with severe
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Speaker 17: postpart and depression. So even when I came on the
10:47
Speaker 17: show the last time, I was in the depths of that.
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Speaker 17: Didn't really realize the impact and how that affected me
10:54
Speaker 17: until I started to kind of climb out of that.
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Speaker 17: Right going through that journey with Quinn, it gave me
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Speaker 17: a space and I call it my help journal, like
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Speaker 17: a reflective journals, to look back on and say, oh,
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Speaker 17: like this was this was the way in which it
11:06
Speaker 17: was showing up for Quinn. I didn't realize that postpartum
11:09
Speaker 17: depression can show up as fatigue, as overwhelmed. We know
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Speaker 17: about the sadness, we know about all that stuff, but
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Speaker 17: these are some of the ways the mood swings. Didn't
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Speaker 17: know that that was a part of those things and
11:20
Speaker 17: so being able to play that and reflect that in
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Speaker 17: Quinn gave me almost like a map that I could go, Okay, Grace, like,
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Speaker 17: this is how you can navigate.
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Speaker 1: This did worn't help with her it worse, No, it.
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Speaker 17: Helped because it actually gave me an enlightenment, right like, oh,
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Speaker 17: this is what it could look like. This is what
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Speaker 17: And so even though I was I was doing it
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Speaker 17: for Quinn, you know, I felt it on a different
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Speaker 17: nuanced level when I was actually going through it myself.
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Speaker 1: Gotcha, how are.
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Speaker 5: Y'all juggling the schedules though?
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Speaker 1: Like now?
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Speaker 14: Because it's still is it's like y'all personally flourishing business,
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Speaker 14: y'all flourishing? How can y'all because I know that the schedules,
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Speaker 14: I mean, I know y'all said, it's been like two
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Speaker 14: years since y'all did this, But now y'all all got
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Speaker 14: individually a lot going on too.
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Speaker 5: How can y'all still? Like, how y'all juggling schedules?
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Speaker 17: We all start with Shane wan that one because she
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Speaker 17: just got us single.
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Speaker 14: You know, I thrive when I'm busy, I really do.
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Speaker 14: I like the structure of figuring out my schedule. I've
12:20
Speaker 14: become more detail oriented when I have a lot of
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Speaker 14: things to focus on. And I was very intentional about
12:25
Speaker 14: dropping Feel my Love my new single after the ending
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Speaker 14: season two with a engagement or proposal, and so I
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Speaker 14: wanted to like balance that and have that come out
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Speaker 14: at the same time as the show because I knew
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Speaker 14: a lot of Harlem.
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Speaker 5: Fans would be paying attention, but also just to.
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Speaker 14: Like, you know, maybe troll a little bit or make
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Speaker 14: them question whether and you would actually end up in
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Speaker 14: this relationship because we don't get a yes or no
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Speaker 14: at the end.
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Speaker 5: Of the season took anything. We're trying to have a rollout.
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Speaker 11: Making you refer to them as your sisters and your brothers.
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Speaker 11: Does that happen naturally? Because a lot of times, you know,
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Speaker 11: people want to keep things business. So that just happened naturally,
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Speaker 11: that this bond.
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Speaker 18: It happened completely organically, like from the beginning, from day one.
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Speaker 18: If I start with Schnik, well, like we were on
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Speaker 18: FaceTime a few years prior, and I had never met
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Speaker 18: her before, and we just spoke and we talked about, like,
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Speaker 18: you know what, one day we're gonna do a show together,
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Speaker 18: and we touched and agreed on the camera of the
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Speaker 18: FaceTime and then literally years later, here we are both
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Speaker 18: walking in, we're both testing, and we're in the bathroom
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Speaker 18: and she's like, do you remember me? I was like
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Speaker 18: from here and she told me and I was like
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Speaker 18: wait what And then we ended up praying and crying
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Speaker 18: in the bathroom, and you know, there's that. And then
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Speaker 18: literally with Tyler, it was just immediate, like just family
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Speaker 18: and just easy or organic. Same thing with Jerry, it
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Speaker 18: was like I've known her forever, like you know. And
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Speaker 18: then with Grace, I called her, I was like, girl,
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Speaker 18: I'm getting She was like, don't doubt me.
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Speaker 1: You getting ready to come in friends? Yeah, like for
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Speaker 1: years before that.
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Speaker 5: So that was exciting. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Is that the normal on sex?
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Speaker 18: It isn't always like that. And then you also, you
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Speaker 18: know when it when it's gonna be for women, you
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Speaker 18: just never know what you're gonna get. You hope that
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Speaker 18: that is the experience, you know. And we had talked
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Speaker 18: about this a few years prior, saying how it would
14:03
Speaker 18: be great if we got an opportunity to work on
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Speaker 18: a show together. So when I called her and she
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Speaker 18: was like tech ever, really I was excited. It was
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Speaker 18: like you just knew that God was in it. And
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Speaker 18: I have to say, for me, this has been the
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Speaker 18: best professional experience that I've had in my entire career.
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Speaker 18: You know, you know, in a way, it's the end
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Speaker 18: of a chapter, but it's exciting because the way that
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Speaker 18: we end the chapter were really really proud of, and
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Speaker 18: I think the audience is going to get everything that
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Speaker 18: they want to get. But also I think that we
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Speaker 18: got what we want to get outside of having a movie.
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Speaker 5: Additionally, but.
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Speaker 18: It's better, I think, to move this way where it's
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Speaker 18: you know, you didn't stay for too long, but you
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Speaker 18: gave everyone exactly what they wanted and needed.
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Speaker 13: And I want to give Meghan her props too, because
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Speaker 13: she was a great leader in setting the culture of
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Speaker 13: our set. And everybody who has come and guest starred,
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Speaker 13: they've had a really great time. But we learned from
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Speaker 13: Meghan from Grace like it truly is a fun time.
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Speaker 13: But also we have decided, we decided early on that
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Speaker 13: we were going to stick together throughout this situation, so
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Speaker 13: nobody could say, well, you know, this person was a
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Speaker 13: difficult one, or this person was this one or this,
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Speaker 13: because if there was a problem, we all have the problem.
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Speaker 5: If we all have it and we're on.
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Speaker 13: The zoom calls or whatever, and you won't know where
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Speaker 13: the source is because we didn't want it to be
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Speaker 13: like somebody was pinpointed or somebody is.
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Speaker 5: Promised each other that if.
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Speaker 13: Somebody says something to one of us about the other one,
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Speaker 13: we're not just gonna take it at face value. We
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Speaker 13: come into the source and saying, hey, did this really happen?
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Speaker 13: People do like to like separate women and pen women
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Speaker 13: against each other, and so I think it was really
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Speaker 13: important for us to And this is my second show.
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Speaker 13: I mean, I was like six months out of grad
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Speaker 13: school and I booked this show and the first time
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Speaker 13: being the lead in something and then to get to
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Speaker 13: do it like this, which is for me, my manifestation
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Speaker 13: and to be like, oh wait no, actually for me,
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Speaker 13: this can be the norm of the experience. And y'all
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Speaker 13: set the tone for that. So I thank you for
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Speaker 13: being We.
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Speaker 2: Have more with the cast of Harlem here making good
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Speaker 2: Tyler Leplee, Grace, Biased, Janiqua Shandai and Jerry Johnson. When
16:09
Speaker 2: we come back, it's the Breakfast Club, Good Morning, The
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Speaker 2: Breakfast Club, Good Morning. Everybody is the ej envyes hilarious Charlamagne,
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Speaker 2: the God.
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Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club.
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Speaker 2: We're still kicking in with the cast of Harlem making
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Speaker 2: good Taler Lepley, Grace Bias, Shaniqua Shandai and Jerry Johnson Charlamagne.
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Speaker 11: Because acting allow y'all to just escape when you're dealing
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Speaker 11: with all of these personal things. Now you can just
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Speaker 11: go be somebody else with a few hours.
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Speaker 18: It allows you to work through things, you know, past trauma,
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Speaker 18: certain experiences. Rather it's childhood, I mean, whatever it may be.
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Speaker 18: It allows you to have a place to put it
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Speaker 18: to good use and for it to be something that
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Speaker 18: someone else can watch or see and take from it
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Speaker 18: and go, Okay, that made me feel not alone, or
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Speaker 18: that made me feel soon or understood. So I think
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Speaker 18: in a way it's therapeutic. I don't know if it
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Speaker 18: really allows us to escape. I get to each of these.
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Speaker 11: A little dangerous. So do y'all allow y'rselves to lose
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Speaker 11: yourself in a row? You don't?
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Speaker 1: You don't can't go there?
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Speaker 4: You can?
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Speaker 13: Because that's I think the if we think about like
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Speaker 13: some of our greates that have lost themselves and then
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Speaker 13: we lost them. I was gonna say that, Yeah, it's
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Speaker 13: like when you go there, if you don't know how
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Speaker 13: to unzip that character and step out in order to
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Speaker 13: go home.
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Speaker 5: And not have that energy in your home, it gets crazy.
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Speaker 13: But also the body doesn't know the difference sometimes, So
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Speaker 13: when you go and when you're going deep into a
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Speaker 13: character and you're not doing those things where you are
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Speaker 13: separating when you get home, your body don't know the difference.
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Speaker 13: So if my character is going crazy, if I'm playing
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Speaker 13: the Joker and I'm really in there and I'm taking
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Speaker 13: the Joker home with me, my body don't know that
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Speaker 13: I'm not the Joker if I believe it enough.
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Speaker 5: And so sometimes you.
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Speaker 13: Know, it's good to be like, all right, I'm gonna
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Speaker 13: give a cap on this, Like if I really got
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Speaker 13: to go there, I'm gonna go there for the six
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Speaker 13: months I gotta go there. But I'm already planning all
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Speaker 13: the things I need to plan so that day I'm done,
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Speaker 13: it's already set up.
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Speaker 1: For me to release this.
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Speaker 13: Whether I'm going to the ocean, whether I'm wherever I am,
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Speaker 13: whether all of my friends come to my house to
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Speaker 13: remind me of who I am, I have to have
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Speaker 13: something that reality sets me back to who I am,
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Speaker 13: or it's not gonna be it's gonna be on my
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Speaker 13: spirit and it's not gonna.
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Speaker 1: Be good for me.
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Speaker 14: Then, speaking of then Jerry, where's Tie's head at after
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Speaker 14: she found out she smashed the mother and.
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Speaker 5: Jump back into being Yes, that's crazy, that's crazy.
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Speaker 13: You know, to find out something like that is like,
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Speaker 13: how do you even deal with that?
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Speaker 5: And I think Tie decides because what I really want.
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Speaker 1: Open Jerry is poly.
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Speaker 5: But she's loved to be right, Jason, even though.
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Speaker 13: Jerry is Polly, I wouldn't describe Tie as Polly.
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Speaker 5: I think Ty was.
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Speaker 13: Really wanting something, but also probably in that moment being
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Speaker 13: greedy because she was wanting something but having something else.
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Speaker 13: And I think sometimes if my intention is commitment, then
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Speaker 13: I have to go towards what that intention is.
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Speaker 5: And if it's commitment towards one person and.
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Speaker 13: I'm letting my energy fly, of course I might end
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Speaker 13: up with a daughter.
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Speaker 5: I knew what was going on, and I was.
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Speaker 11: Like, how is motherhood changed you?
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Speaker 17: I think what I did not expect was that I
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Speaker 17: was fully prepared to be like, I'm ready to learn
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Speaker 17: everything I can about motherhood and my child. I did
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Speaker 17: not anticipate that I was going to also go on
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Speaker 17: a journey to learn about myself, and so I had
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Speaker 17: to face things about myself in order to ensure his
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Speaker 17: well being. Right, So I had to go back to
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Speaker 17: my own childhood, go back to the things that you know,
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Speaker 17: that I didn't realize that I was like holding on to,
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Speaker 17: or dealing with or like simple things like you know,
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Speaker 17: like being being a recovering people pleaser. I can't do
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Speaker 17: that with my child. I will be so depleted. I
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Speaker 17: will not show up as the mother that I need
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Speaker 17: to be. So how do I then organize in my mind?
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Speaker 17: Like how do I prioritize myself for real?
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Speaker 5: For real?
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Speaker 17: You know, so like things like that that I didn't
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Speaker 17: expect that are really changing my life?
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Speaker 1: Are these moments bittersweet?
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Speaker 11: Knowing that you know he's gonna be the last time
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Speaker 11: y'all probably do interviews together and things of that nature.
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Speaker 2: They said, they talk about movie, they manifest the movie.
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Speaker 2: So the last time we need a petition and.
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Speaker 14: This y'all could do something else, Yeah, because y'all are
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Speaker 14: so grounded, even as just outside the cass just hearing
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Speaker 14: y'all speak, like, you know, like even from the last
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Speaker 14: interview that we had with you, like so much growth,
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Speaker 14: like not saying that you you know last time, right, No,
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Speaker 14: not that, but yeah, it's just I don't know, it's
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Speaker 14: just it's zinful, it's tranquility. It's a whole bunch of
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Speaker 14: y'all are very grounded as a cast. So I appreciate
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Speaker 14: it anything I was not even don't have to be
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Speaker 14: all or just you know, y'all can write your own movie.
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Speaker 5: I can directly, we can just get it on here,
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Speaker 5: like we really appreciate enough and even.
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Speaker 7: Just like you know, to all of us before, you know,
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Speaker 7: as we're saying goodbye, I feel like one of the
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Speaker 7: biggest uh, you know, reasons, it's not a sad goodbye.
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Speaker 7: It's like for a multitude of things like, hey, we
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Speaker 7: have a you know, we have a great beginning middle
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Speaker 7: and now you know, we knew are and we knew
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Speaker 7: who were landing at so like that's a beautiful thing.
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Speaker 7: But then on the flip side off of the script,
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Speaker 7: you know, because of the way we were able to
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Speaker 7: come together as family, like I feel like this is
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Speaker 7: a you know, a lot of times when we say
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Speaker 7: goodbye to people, it's like a sad goodbye, you know
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Speaker 7: what I'm saying. But it's like, I really feel like
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Speaker 7: this is a you know, this is the opposite, is
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Speaker 7: almost like a happy goodbye.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 7: When we say goodbye, it's almost like we're raising the
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Speaker 7: trophy up, you know what I'm saying. So it's like
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Speaker 7: when I yes on a good note. So when I
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Speaker 7: think back about these times, it's not really gonna be
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Speaker 7: a sad thing.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 7: We're able to experience together, share it with the world,
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Speaker 7: and uh close the book at the right time.
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Speaker 2: Or shaniko, you're telling we not leaving like that. We're
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Speaker 2: leaving with your singles. So we don't play your.
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Speaker 11: Record.
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Speaker 2: We don't play your record, play your record, mis grace.
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Speaker 2: I felt the God in you this morning. We're gonna
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Speaker 2: say a prayer before we get up out of here,
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Speaker 2: to say.
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Speaker 1: God good, God is great. Thank you for the food
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Speaker 1: we eat, dinner on the table.
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Speaker 3: All right, let's do it.
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Speaker 17: Let's do Thank you, dearly father, thank you so much
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Speaker 17: for this time together.
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Speaker 1: Lord.
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Speaker 17: We asked that you bless the breakfast club. Lord, we
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Speaker 17: asked that you blessed our minds or hearts or words.
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Speaker 17: Your father, thank you for a form like this, or
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Speaker 17: that we're able to galvanize as one that we're able
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Speaker 17: to come together in truth and honesty and love and
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Speaker 17: just celebrate amazing black work. Lord, we are so grateful
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Speaker 17: of this moment, grateful for this time. To your Father,
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Speaker 17: we ask that you go before us, that you make
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Speaker 17: the crooked pass straight. We so you continue to uplift
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Speaker 17: us in your spiritual Lord, let us always stay in
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Speaker 17: your purpose and your will. Lord, We thank you for
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Speaker 17: your love. We thank you for your blessing. In Jesus name,
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Speaker 17: we praise Amen.
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Speaker 1: Amen, It's the breakfast Club. Good morning, wake up, you're
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Speaker 1: like to enter the breakfast Club.
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Speaker 2: Warning, everybody's tej Envy, just Hilarius, Charlamagne the God.
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Speaker 1: We are the breakfast club.
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Speaker 2: Now if you're just joining us, we're talking about the
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Speaker 2: list of Trump executive orders that affected people, from DEI
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Speaker 2: to birthright citizenship to ice coming and taking people.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, has the importations did this man doing the DEI?
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Speaker 11: You know, the potential federal hiring freeze, I mean tariffs,
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Speaker 11: you know, and so you know, we're just opening up
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Speaker 11: the phone lines to see how things have impacted people.
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Speaker 11: You know, Jess is already concerned about the price of
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Speaker 11: weakes potentially.
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Speaker 5: Excuse me there, you know, I'm not no, I'm not, okay.
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Speaker 14: It affects my mother and and other people who have
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Speaker 14: been in childcare administration. My mom has been taking care
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Speaker 14: of kids, and she has a child free school and
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Speaker 14: has had one for thirty years coming up. And a
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Speaker 14: lot of her money comes from the federal government, federal government.
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Speaker 5: You know, like the food program.
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Speaker 14: She get checked to feed the kids, you know, and
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Speaker 14: then all of her parents they are using vouchers or
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Speaker 14: scholarship of some sort, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 11: So no potential federal hiring freez could shut.
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Speaker 14: Her absolutely, absolutely, and it will. People are already starting
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Speaker 14: to be affected by it, you know.
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Speaker 11: So, and you see the dismantling of DEI program. You
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Speaker 11: see people losing jobs, you know, when you got these
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Speaker 11: mass deportations, Like I know people who you know, jobs
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Speaker 11: have got ran up in, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 11: Their parents' jobs have gotten ran up in.
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Speaker 6: You know.
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Speaker 11: I know family members, I know families who literally have
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Speaker 11: had to leave because you know, one person in the
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Speaker 11: household was undocumented and now they got to go, and
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Speaker 11: the kids gotta go.
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Speaker 1: It's real out here, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, growing up in New York of course
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Speaker 2: you're surrounded by immigrants, right, You're surrounded by people that
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Speaker 2: are here.
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Speaker 1: This got crazy. You're surrounded like you're not wanting the
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Speaker 1: person surrounding. I'm not.
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Speaker 10: I actually was born here and my parents were too.
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Speaker 2: But you're surrounded by immigrants that you know that the
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Speaker 2: kids were born here, but their parents not. And now
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Speaker 2: many of my friends and the people that I know,
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Speaker 2: they're fearful that their parents could be you know, taken back,
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Speaker 2: and parents could be you know, taken by ice because
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Speaker 2: there's no rules, there's no regulations. They just know that
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Speaker 2: ice is on the street grabbing imgrants. So people are nervous.
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Speaker 2: People are scared.
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Speaker 1: Are you an ankle baby?
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Speaker 2: My parents were born here, sir, My grandparents were born here,
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Speaker 2: and I was born here, sir.
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Speaker 1: Prove it.
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Speaker 14: Let me when ice come and snatch you up, that's
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Speaker 14: gonna be crazy. I'm scared to take my daughter outside
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Speaker 14: to this day. I'm like Jesus, yes, for really. They
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Speaker 14: might think I'm harvarding one of them. Yeah he is,
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Speaker 14: but Molly look like nah, see she more in question
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Speaker 14: than her father. Dude would be like, oh, where you
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Speaker 14: get that baby from? And if I just got about myself,
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Speaker 14: I look like a nanny.
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Speaker 12: Not.
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Speaker 5: I don't know. It's crazy for the.
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Speaker 11: People who don't know. Your baby daddy is Mexican.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, half Mexican, yes, half Mexican.
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Speaker 14: His mom straight, straight up Mexican's father Blake So and
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Speaker 14: my daughter she looks straight Mexican, Like, oh my god.
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Speaker 11: I think you should stop saying that you might get
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Speaker 11: a knock for part. Hello, let's go, might get it.
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Speaker 5: Not just crazy, I'm scared.
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Speaker 1: Hello, who's this?
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Speaker 12: This is doctor Allen, doctor from I'm from some five,
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Speaker 12: but I'm in Indianapolis.
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Speaker 11: Now, okay, how have Trump's executive boaters impacted you as far?
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Speaker 12: Absolutely so. I am a director for a Diversity and
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Speaker 12: Culching Inclusion for Engineering Research Center, so through the National
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Speaker 12: Science Foundation, they pretty much stopped all of me my
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Speaker 12: ability to spend money. I built programs like easy programs
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Speaker 12: for high school students. They told me I could not
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Speaker 12: take no more students to Watchington DC for that we
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Speaker 12: had a upcoming the conference for them to present their research.
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Speaker 12: I have about three hundred thousand dollars in funding that
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Speaker 12: I can no longer touch because our work in DEI.
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Speaker 12: They told me, literally, I couldn't you spend no money
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Speaker 12: because my proposal said I was working with marginalized students,
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Speaker 12: and that is discrimination by another name. When you're saying
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Speaker 12: that I can't work with students because they're from marginalized backgrounds.
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Speaker 12: But if it was a white student, I can go
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Speaker 12: ahead and consine it with my work. This discrimination by
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Speaker 12: another names. And so I have about I have another
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Speaker 12: about five million dollars in additional funding that I have
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Speaker 12: that I have sent in there for review that I
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Speaker 12: can't they propamize, just going to throw out now, and
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Speaker 12: these are this is money that's going to our students,
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Speaker 12: our low income students, underrepresented students, to make sure that
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Speaker 12: we get skilled and help our students continu grow, go
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Speaker 12: to college, get scholarships. And we can no longer touch
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Speaker 12: that money. They are literally trying to prevent us from
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Speaker 12: growing our communities at being to do the things that
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Speaker 12: we need to do, all because they don't want us
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Speaker 12: to be as successful as we could be. And it
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Speaker 12: is very sick in it.
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Speaker 1: How do we combat that? How do we combat it?
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Speaker 11: How do we combat it?
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Speaker 1: Can we?
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Speaker 16: Well?
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Speaker 12: A few things that we have to do is we
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Speaker 12: have to put pressure on our elective officials. The Democrats
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Speaker 12: have to be able to stop get off their fingers
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Speaker 12: and it's actual.
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Speaker 1: Need to do something.
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Speaker 12: This should not be a process for them to be
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Speaker 12: able to discriminate by another NAT. There should be some
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Speaker 12: type of lawsuits that are letting them say, hey, you
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Speaker 12: all have not does not have not developed any criteria
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Speaker 12: for what is considered THEI you all are just looking
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Speaker 12: for anything that says black or brown, underrepresented, marginalized, low income,
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Speaker 12: and that is discriminating. There needs to be some folks
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Speaker 12: that are doing something in the legal arena. They need
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Speaker 12: to be folks are doing something in the political arena.
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Speaker 12: And we also need to start thinking about how do
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Speaker 12: we make sure that we're not hand from the next
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Speaker 12: time one of these ola guards if somebody comes in
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Speaker 12: and want to take over power like this. We need
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Speaker 12: to be able to make sure that we're self sufficient,
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Speaker 12: sustainable and figure our way from.
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Speaker 11: Which we can do then I totally agree.
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Speaker 7: Man.
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Speaker 11: You know the hell part about it is there are
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Speaker 11: you know, guardrails and tools that democrats can use. But
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Speaker 11: you know, we just keep getting all these statements about
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Speaker 11: norms and faith and institutions brought them. Institutions are done, okay,
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Speaker 11: These people are playing by a different set of rules.
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Speaker 11: They need to figure it out.
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Speaker 10: It's got another caller.
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Speaker 1: Hello, who's this YO? Good morning. They deported them just
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Speaker 1: that fast. They're driving.
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Speaker 5: Right now.
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Speaker 1: Hello.
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Speaker 9: How the money.
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Speaker 10: Are talking about Trump's executive orders? How has it affected
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Speaker 10: you at all?
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Speaker 6: I mean, honestly, let's be well, LA women numbers jun't
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Speaker 6: America voted for Trump. I don't understand now why everybody
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Speaker 6: so up war about what's going on when they were
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Speaker 6: killing you are multiple times over and over the body administration.
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Speaker 6: Let us know about twenty twenty and nobody doesn't care.
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Speaker 6: I don't know why is everybody bought an updill.
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Speaker 1: Downe, ma'am.
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Speaker 11: Ma'amm told ma'am, you're absolutely right, but what that got
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Speaker 11: to do with his executive void is impacting people.
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Speaker 6: It was expected, it was what's coming. Yes, there's nothing
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Speaker 6: about it if you voted him in office.
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Speaker 11: But but have they impacted you? That's the question.
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Speaker 6: You're at this point. I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna
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Speaker 6: be honest with you. Players, don't do it. Tom ninety one,
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Speaker 6: Tom twenty three, Tom one twenty one, His prince and
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Speaker 6: and and she put.
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Speaker 2: All right, thank you, mama, what is she saying to ourselves?
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Speaker 2: That's what she said, Yeah, y'all voted for him, And
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Speaker 2: she didn't answer the question. She basically just said that
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Speaker 2: y'all didn't.
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Speaker 14: Yes, she always somewhere to understand.
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Speaker 11: Oh look, and I understand what she's saying. But that's
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Speaker 11: not the question we're asking. The question we're asking is
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Speaker 11: how has his executive orders impacted people? Because, you know what,
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Speaker 11: I would like to start hearing his solutions, you know,
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Speaker 11: like I would like to start hearing you know, how
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Speaker 11: we can combat some of these things.
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Speaker 2: But how can we? Right because he's the president. He
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Speaker 2: put these orders into play. This is his house right now, right,
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Speaker 2: But so how do we how do we stop that?
31:18
Speaker 2: How do we defend it? How do we combat that?
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Speaker 14: How is there anyway like something can happen locally? Like
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Speaker 14: because even with my mom saying, you know, she with
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Speaker 14: my mom being affected, you know, and then the caller
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Speaker 14: who just called up and said, like they're gonna cut
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Speaker 14: her child care benefit. She's a full time working mom, Like,
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Speaker 14: is there something we can do, like the mayors, the governors, like,
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Speaker 14: you know, I know he signed these orders, but it's
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Speaker 14: no way like can we tackle it locally.
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Speaker 11: There's tools and guardrails that these people have at their
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Speaker 11: disposable disposal to try to slow down some of this stuff.
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Speaker 11: But you know, they got to have the strength to
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Speaker 11: use them. You know, the Democrats are a party of cowards.
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Speaker 11: They're leaderless right now, right now, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 11: But they are they are guardrails in place. Well, we
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Speaker 11: gotta This is gonna be a never ending conversation, by
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Speaker 11: the way, y'all do know that, right, yeah, But.
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Speaker 2: It just feels weird because when you look at Biden
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Speaker 2: and him being in office in the last four years
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Speaker 2: and what he's done, and then you look at Trump
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Speaker 2: being so aggressive and doing everything that he wanted to
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Speaker 2: do with and not apologizing for it and just doing
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Speaker 2: it basically saying, I told y'all what I was gonna
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Speaker 2: do if you don't like a middle finger, And then
32:18
Speaker 2: you look at the last four years and look at
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Speaker 2: Biden was just so nice and just trying to be
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Speaker 2: the nice guy. It just really makes you upset, you know, yeah,
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Speaker 2: for sure. All right, well, this is their moral.
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Speaker 11: To the story at all, the moral to the story.
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Speaker 11: This is gonna be another ending conversation. But that's what
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Speaker 11: the Breakfast Club is here for The Breakfast Club is
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Speaker 11: here to have those conversations, okay, and we'll bring in
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Speaker 11: people way smarter than us to tell us what these
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Speaker 11: guardrails are and what these tools are, what these tools
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Speaker 11: are that they can use to try to slow some
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Speaker 11: of this stuff there.
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Speaker 1: All right, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.
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Speaker 3: Morning.
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Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ Envy.
32:52
Speaker 2: Jess Hilarious, Charlamage the day. We are the Breakfast Club.
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Speaker 2: Layla ros is here with us this morning. And we
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Speaker 2: got some special guests in the building. We have Rick Johnson,
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Speaker 2: the President of the NUBA ACP, welcome here. We have
33:03
Speaker 2: Scott Mills, CEO of b E T.
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Speaker 1: Good morning, thank you for having me.
33:06
Speaker 2: And we have a friend to the room, cousin to
33:08
Speaker 2: the room, Chloe Balley. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back.
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Speaker 5: Hello.
33:11
Speaker 1: How you feeling. How's everybody fantastic?
33:13
Speaker 2: All right, So we're talking about the n DOUBLE ACP
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Speaker 2: Image Awards Live, which goes down February twenty second, and
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Speaker 2: you guys have released some of the nominations and you're
33:22
Speaker 2: about to tell us who's going to be the host.
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Speaker 1: Actually we're not yet disclosing, Okay, we assume it is Chloe.
33:29
Speaker 7: That's right.
33:30
Speaker 1: You don't got to run the press here you go.
33:32
Speaker 15: It's hard to be both a nominee and the host, So.
33:34
Speaker 1: That is correct the first for everything.
33:38
Speaker 11: Why are you with them?
33:39
Speaker 1: Chloe? Why are you with them? People? We're family?
33:43
Speaker 19: Are definitely family, you know growing up as well, Sis
33:46
Speaker 19: and I we would go and sing a lot of
33:48
Speaker 19: times at you know, the events in Florida several times
33:51
Speaker 19: and things like that, and it was just really special
33:54
Speaker 19: to be a part of this today with praise this
33:56
Speaker 19: the movie I did with Will Packer winning last year.
33:59
Speaker 19: And you know, it was a surprise to me today
34:01
Speaker 19: as we were announcing some of the nominations, I got another.
34:06
Speaker 5: That prior to oh God is good, grateful, I think.
34:10
Speaker 1: The first time you all joined us at ACP like
34:13
Speaker 1: eleven twelve.
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Speaker 20: Yeah, well, I think it's important for you to be
34:17
Speaker 20: here with them, especially putting your voice on it, because
34:19
Speaker 20: I think there's always a conversation abound, like the award
34:21
Speaker 20: shows that we have and whether people in what level
34:24
Speaker 20: of celebrity supported or not. So I think you being
34:26
Speaker 20: here and you know, being kind of like a face
34:28
Speaker 20: of it helps that. Are you at all like working
34:30
Speaker 20: with the NAACP in these Image Awards, are you at
34:33
Speaker 20: all getting out there for other award shows and just
34:35
Speaker 20: kind of being a champion of that, like in calling
34:38
Speaker 20: your friends and being like, hey, y'all need to make
34:39
Speaker 20: sure y'all show up? Like what celebrities are you? Like, Hey,
34:41
Speaker 20: make sure you show up, particularly Beyonce.
34:45
Speaker 5: Before her and yes, actually you know we getting there.
34:47
Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 19: I think this one is really especially important because it
34:52
Speaker 19: is honoring us in all of our blackness. And sometimes
34:56
Speaker 19: it's hard in this world and society today to not
34:58
Speaker 19: feel valued or feel worthy enough. But definitely in this
35:02
Speaker 19: space at the Image Awards, you know, we are celebrating
35:05
Speaker 19: one another for not only our skin tone, but also
35:08
Speaker 19: the incredible art that we put into the world.
35:11
Speaker 1: And how do we bring award shows back to where
35:13
Speaker 1: it used to be? Right?
35:14
Speaker 10: I remember as a kid, money, money, money up.
35:19
Speaker 1: As a kid, that's what we look.
35:20
Speaker 2: We expired to watch, we expired to We wanted to
35:23
Speaker 2: see the NAACP Awards, we wanted to see the BT Awards,
35:25
Speaker 2: and some of our biggest moments culturally came from those events,
35:29
Speaker 2: Soul Train as well.
35:30
Speaker 10: How do we get back to that? Now you say
35:32
Speaker 10: money what does that money mean.
35:33
Speaker 4: I mean, the large marketing houses actually put an instance
35:37
Speaker 4: on black culture in a way which is not exploited
35:40
Speaker 4: for their product line, but their supportive for the culture's sake.
35:45
Speaker 4: What we have seen over time is a devaluing of
35:49
Speaker 4: shows like Soul Trainers Love Soul Trained, but the escalation
35:53
Speaker 4: of resources for the Grammys or the Oscars or the Emmys.
35:57
Speaker 4: While their viewership has been going down, they still invest
36:00
Speaker 4: in it. But then they say, your viewership is down, Yeah,
36:04
Speaker 4: you don't invest. But if you invest, people want to
36:06
Speaker 4: see black entertainment. People want to appreciate the culture. It
36:10
Speaker 4: is not just in the US, it's globally.
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Speaker 11: I agree with that, but you know, there are some
36:14
Speaker 11: black people who think white ice is cold.
36:16
Speaker 1: There absolutely are.
36:17
Speaker 15: I mean, I think one of the things that was
36:18
Speaker 15: interesting post you know, that very brief moment of racial
36:21
Speaker 15: renaissance we had in this country post murder of George Floyd.
36:24
Speaker 15: About three months right right that moment, the post that
36:27
Speaker 15: when we were preparing to do the Image Awards with
36:30
Speaker 15: the NAACP, I would get these calls from journalists and
36:33
Speaker 15: they'd say, is.
36:34
Speaker 1: There still a need for the Image Awards? Haven't aren't
36:37
Speaker 1: we beyond that.
36:38
Speaker 11: And I said, so white, right, right?
36:40
Speaker 15: And I said, you know, first of all, I think
36:42
Speaker 15: that suggestion means you really don't understand why the Image
36:46
Speaker 15: Awards exist. It is not it doesn't exist because we
36:49
Speaker 15: were excluded from other places. First and foremost, it is
36:51
Speaker 15: about that our community values being recognized and celebrated by
36:55
Speaker 15: our community, and that has absolute value. But the second
36:59
Speaker 15: thing is what we understand about this country is it's
37:02
Speaker 15: terribly fickle. Right, so today, oh yes, we're wonderfully popular
37:05
Speaker 15: and you want to include us in all of your
37:07
Speaker 15: award shows, but you know this is not going to
37:09
Speaker 15: sustain And what the NAACP and the partnership with BET,
37:13
Speaker 15: we have a consistent commitment to celebrating excellence in our community.
37:18
Speaker 15: And that's really what our partnership for the Image Awards
37:21
Speaker 15: is all about.
37:21
Speaker 20: Question for you guys, because even in planning this show, right,
37:24
Speaker 20: so BT works with the NAACP to have the awards.
37:27
Speaker 5: The programmer on the network.
37:28
Speaker 20: People always give you, guys a lot of flak for
37:30
Speaker 20: what's on the network and what's not, saying that you
37:32
Speaker 20: need better shows or whatever the case may be. But
37:34
Speaker 20: the awards show, the Image Awards are it's always a
37:36
Speaker 20: good show. In my opinion, how much do you get
37:39
Speaker 20: tired of the conversation of BT doesn't have good stuff
37:41
Speaker 20: to watch, that's why we don't watch it.
37:42
Speaker 15: Well, it's fascinating. I think they're always going to be
37:45
Speaker 15: people who are critical, that's the reality. The situation is
37:47
Speaker 15: really fun. This morning, before coming over, I listened to
37:51
Speaker 15: your best of clip that you guys have online and
37:53
Speaker 15: one of your featured guests was Miss Pat Right, and
37:56
Speaker 15: it was through Lee Daniels reaching out to be Et
37:59
Speaker 15: to say, I have this series that only be Et
38:03
Speaker 15: can create. The only platform in the world that can
38:05
Speaker 15: actually put this series out there is be Et. It
38:08
Speaker 15: scares everyone else off. It's an important message. So we
38:11
Speaker 15: looked at it. We love Lee Daniels. We greenlit the
38:14
Speaker 15: series right, and it actually secured be ET's first Primetime
38:17
Speaker 15: Emmy nomination because it was a really breakthrough show and
38:20
Speaker 15: now everybody knows who Miss Pat is and she's going on.
38:22
Speaker 15: We're actually in the fifth season of that show. And
38:24
Speaker 15: whether it's that or the nominations that we receive for
38:27
Speaker 15: Dr from Detroit Wright's Fantastic show.
38:31
Speaker 1: Dr R.
38:31
Speaker 15: Kilpatrick is an amazing talent and the show is great
38:34
Speaker 15: fun and the amazing work we do with Tyler Perry.
38:36
Speaker 15: The reality is we have the biggest investment in black
38:40
Speaker 15: focused content than any platform in the country, and even
38:45
Speaker 15: with that, you're never going to be able to satisfy
38:48
Speaker 15: every single audience. And so we recognize that they're going
38:51
Speaker 15: to be things that people love, They're going to be
38:53
Speaker 15: things that people wish for, They're going to be things
38:54
Speaker 15: that you know, people keep on saying, bring back music
38:56
Speaker 15: video shows. Music video shows don't work on linear television.
38:59
Speaker 15: That's just the reality. But so what we focus on
39:02
Speaker 15: is what are the things that actually our audiences are
39:06
Speaker 15: really consuming and enjoying. So Tyler Perry's Sisters, we're going
39:10
Speaker 15: into the eighth season. It is the single most watched
39:12
Speaker 15: show among black people on all of television, not all
39:16
Speaker 15: of cable, all of television in fact, right so more
39:20
Speaker 15: than anything on broadcast television. So people say, oh, you know,
39:23
Speaker 15: there be some people complain about BET, but the fact
39:26
Speaker 15: that we have the single most watched show in black
39:28
Speaker 15: households so that is a long way of saying, we
39:31
Speaker 15: are always striving to be more inclusive. So we created
39:35
Speaker 15: our streaming platform, b ET Plus to be able to
39:37
Speaker 15: create even more content, speak to diverse audiences. We think
39:42
Speaker 15: are tent poles like the NAACP Image Awards, like the
39:46
Speaker 15: BET Awards, which this where year is going to celebrate
39:48
Speaker 15: its twenty fifth anniversary. If you can believe that, we
39:51
Speaker 15: think our tent poles are those to their name. They
39:55
Speaker 15: are the things that allow us to bring a huge
39:57
Speaker 15: cross section of the community together to and celebrate what's
40:01
Speaker 15: really important to us as a community. One of the
40:04
Speaker 15: things this year, over three million folks tuned in sorry
40:07
Speaker 15: as over three million folks moved in, sorry, tuned in
40:10
Speaker 15: to the BET Awards in twenty twenty four. And if
40:12
Speaker 15: you think about that, it means it's the single largest
40:16
Speaker 15: gathering of Black people for a black event in the country.
40:21
Speaker 15: Rank there's nothing else that three million Black folks show
40:24
Speaker 15: up for that is a specifically black event. And so
40:27
Speaker 15: you still have this opportunity to catalyze, mobilize, and engage
40:31
Speaker 15: our community, and you just have to be very thoughtful
40:33
Speaker 15: and have great partners like the NAACP.
40:35
Speaker 2: All Right, we have more with Chloe Bailey, the President
40:37
Speaker 2: of the NAACP, Derek Johnson, and the President in CEO
40:41
Speaker 2: of B E. T.
40:42
Speaker 1: Scott Mills, don't moves to Breakfast Club, Good.
40:44
Speaker 2: Morning Warning, everybody is DJ nv Jess hilarious, Charlamagne, the
40:48
Speaker 2: gud we ought to Breakfast Club.
40:49
Speaker 1: Laura le Rossa is in on this interview as well.
40:52
Speaker 2: We're kicking in with Chloe Bailey, the President of the NAACP,
40:55
Speaker 2: Derek Johnson, and the President in CEO of b E T.
40:58
Speaker 1: Scott Mills.
40:59
Speaker 2: THEACP Image Awards will air on February twenty second.
41:03
Speaker 10: Now, Charlamage, what does.
41:05
Speaker 1: BT mean to your generation, Coloy, because you're twenty six.
41:08
Speaker 19: Yes, I think you know for me growing up.
41:11
Speaker 5: You know, I'm a music lover.
41:13
Speaker 19: I grew up loving one on six in Park, Like
41:15
Speaker 19: I think I could speak for everyone in my generation.
41:18
Speaker 11: You know.
41:18
Speaker 19: I know certain things go into a lot, but that
41:20
Speaker 19: was like the show for me to be inspired, to
41:23
Speaker 19: get excited, Like that was it like I'd run home
41:26
Speaker 19: from school and That's what I'd put on. So I
41:28
Speaker 19: was used to seeing people who look like me, who
41:31
Speaker 19: were succeeding in a field that I wanted to succeed
41:34
Speaker 19: in one day. So be ET has always had a
41:38
Speaker 19: special place in my heart, especially think of all the
41:41
Speaker 19: groundbreaking performances like you know when Beyonce had her incredible
41:45
Speaker 19: performance on there. Yeah, you know, I'm so grateful that
41:48
Speaker 19: I got to be on that stage two three times.
41:50
Speaker 19: One of my favorite performances that I did on there
41:52
Speaker 19: was on BET. It was like this surprise treatment matchup.
41:56
Speaker 19: So it's like, I feel like b ET gives a
41:57
Speaker 19: platform for all black artists, whether they are at the
42:01
Speaker 19: top of their game or whether they're rising. And I
42:03
Speaker 19: think it's really special to have that support.
42:06
Speaker 1: So when you hit a Scott, what do you think?
42:08
Speaker 1: So first, so I love it.
42:09
Speaker 15: And one of the things that we focus on is
42:12
Speaker 15: we understand people love one O six in Park, right,
42:14
Speaker 15: and so the fact that it's it doesn't work as
42:17
Speaker 15: a linear television show doesn't mean one O six and
42:18
Speaker 15: Park is over because we can bring one O six
42:20
Speaker 15: and Park back as a podcast, we can bring one
42:22
Speaker 15: O six and Park back as a digital experience, and
42:25
Speaker 15: we can just we we are evolving what one oh
42:27
Speaker 15: six and Park will look like in twenty twenty five
42:30
Speaker 15: because it does have that very important role.
42:33
Speaker 5: I've heard. I've heard that you guys are trying to
42:35
Speaker 5: figure out a show like that.
42:36
Speaker 15: Yes, and we've got We've got a number of really
42:38
Speaker 15: exciting executions because it's also we're approaching the twenty fifth
42:41
Speaker 15: anniversary of one oh six and Park as well, So we.
42:43
Speaker 5: Be a little bit ada free twenty five.
42:46
Speaker 1: Years, you know, we we will, we will. You'll still be.
42:48
Speaker 15: Some things that you guys will be really excited about,
42:50
Speaker 15: and we look forward to coming back and talk to
42:52
Speaker 15: you about one oh six and Part Free.
42:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, noted so.
42:57
Speaker 15: But I think the other thing that Chloe shared that
42:59
Speaker 15: is so important is we at BET exist to be
43:02
Speaker 15: in service of our community and our culture. That's what
43:04
Speaker 15: we exist for. And we understand that there's a broad
43:08
Speaker 15: ecosystem of different institutions and individuals that make up our
43:12
Speaker 15: community and our culture, and we are part of that
43:15
Speaker 15: broader landscape and that broader ecosystem, and we play a supporting,
43:19
Speaker 15: complementary role to our community and our ecosystem. And whether
43:23
Speaker 15: that's celebrating black excellence, whether that's mobilizing our community around
43:27
Speaker 15: important events, whether that's coming to the aid of our
43:29
Speaker 15: community post in the face of COVID.
43:32
Speaker 1: But to Chloe's very specific.
43:33
Speaker 15: Point, one of the things that our team loves is
43:36
Speaker 15: to be a platform that both celebrates our most successful
43:40
Speaker 15: artists who are absolutely at the pinnacle of their careers
43:43
Speaker 15: and simultaneously to identify and support those emerging artists to
43:47
Speaker 15: give them the platform because we were so many artists
43:51
Speaker 15: very first time to be on television, right, so many
43:54
Speaker 15: artists very first time to perform, the number of managers
43:58
Speaker 15: and label executive to come up and say, you know,
44:01
Speaker 15: we're so appreciative to be back at the Beach Awards
44:03
Speaker 15: because this is where our talent x y Z got
44:05
Speaker 15: their very first break. That really resonates with our team.
44:08
Speaker 2: Can you tell us some of the performers that you
44:10
Speaker 2: guys have planned for the NAACP Awards.
44:12
Speaker 4: We will be revealing performers as we get closer. We're
44:15
Speaker 4: going to we're doing the rollout now and it's very
44:18
Speaker 4: intentional because we're trying to build the audience. The platforms
44:22
Speaker 4: by which people consume information is shifting every month. You know,
44:26
Speaker 4: as you know we grew up listened to Tom Jordan
44:29
Speaker 4: the morning show, Breakfast Club took it over. Well, quite frankly,
44:32
Speaker 4: that's going to be a podcast to take over Breakfast Club,
44:34
Speaker 4: And so we're one hundred and six.
44:37
Speaker 11: What's Happening Club did not take over Tom Joyner. Tom
44:42
Speaker 11: Joyner retired on his own accord.
44:44
Speaker 1: No No, No, No. Tom Joyner was urban adult contemporary.
44:51
Speaker 11: He came to the twenty five to fifty four of them,
44:53
Speaker 11: or we came around eighteen to twenty four. And The
44:55
Speaker 11: Breakfast Club is a podcast, not just the podcast with
44:58
Speaker 11: the number one Black podcast in the world.
45:00
Speaker 4: If you do everything perfect, but somebody gonna do it
45:02
Speaker 4: better later, it is that gonna be next month they
45:04
Speaker 4: come up?
45:05
Speaker 1: Or is it gonna be next year? You're doing everything?
45:07
Speaker 1: Why do we do that as black people? I don't know.
45:09
Speaker 1: You started as something to replace something? Why all these
45:17
Speaker 1: things co exist? Why co exists?
45:19
Speaker 4: But I'm responding to the tone, and the tone is
45:22
Speaker 4: we have legacy organizations, We have media companies that have
45:27
Speaker 4: have been a flag port of our community. We have
45:29
Speaker 4: a show we're on now where the podcast has been excellent.
45:32
Speaker 4: We had other shows that Sunset. It is a part
45:34
Speaker 4: of the ecosystem of who we are as a community.
45:37
Speaker 11: And we should meet people where they are who replaced there.
45:40
Speaker 1: That's a good question. Are they ready?
45:44
Speaker 11: That's what I mean when I say that, like, why
45:45
Speaker 11: do we do that as a as a people? Like oh,
45:47
Speaker 11: just replace that? Like no, everything can co existence?
45:50
Speaker 4: You and I we we absolutely agree, but the tone
45:53
Speaker 4: set with something differently right.
45:54
Speaker 1: So if she is.
45:55
Speaker 4: Twenty six and she can appreciate one O six in park,
45:59
Speaker 4: there's someone who in ACP.
46:01
Speaker 1: But if an ACP is not the.
46:02
Speaker 4: Right vehicle or voice for them, I support them choosing
46:05
Speaker 4: the right vehicle voice because in a social justice movement,
46:08
Speaker 4: it's not a competition. It's an opportunity for our voices
46:10
Speaker 4: to be heard. In entertainment community, it's not a competition.
46:14
Speaker 4: It's an opportunity for our voices, our culture to be
46:16
Speaker 4: to be experienced. And that's how we should be approaching
46:19
Speaker 4: all of this. And so where BT right now is
46:22
Speaker 4: in an industry that's shrinking overall. What Scott is doing
46:26
Speaker 4: is trying to figure out, Okay, how do we continue
46:28
Speaker 4: to advance our culture and our voice. We're INACP. We
46:31
Speaker 4: are in a political dynamic that has shifts. It is
46:34
Speaker 4: our job, being the large organizations in forty seven states,
46:37
Speaker 4: to continue to evolve with that. We're not going anywhere.
46:40
Speaker 4: I don't want the Breakfast Club to go anywhere. BT
46:42
Speaker 4: shouldn't go anywhere. We should all be leaning to our culture,
46:45
Speaker 4: our opportunity, and our voice.
46:47
Speaker 11: Well, I agree these institutions shouldn't go anywhere, but I
46:50
Speaker 11: do think they do have to evolve, Like I doubt,
46:52
Speaker 11: as I doubt I'll always be here as a host,
46:54
Speaker 11: I doubt we'll always be here as a host. Right,
46:56
Speaker 11: people like law and the Justice will take over and everything.
46:59
Speaker 11: But when it to the NAACP or any of these
47:01
Speaker 11: institutions whose job is to tell our own stories.
47:04
Speaker 4: Us, it's our job, right, and that's why we took over.
47:07
Speaker 4: We saw the partnership with BTV on Park Paramount. We
47:10
Speaker 4: have a joint venture with Para my TV. We will
47:12
Speaker 4: have a soap operate air next month on the twenty
47:15
Speaker 4: second on CBS's day Time. We're working, We're about to
47:18
Speaker 4: launch our podcast. Is we have to evolve that our revenue,
47:21
Speaker 4: the streams have to evolve.
47:23
Speaker 1: How we approach this. Organizations should not be driven by personality.
47:27
Speaker 1: It should be driven by mission and strategy. So we
47:30
Speaker 1: all have to evolve.
47:31
Speaker 10: Let me ask you a question. Sports doesn't work well on BT.
47:34
Speaker 15: Sports sports works well on linear television. The challenges sports
47:38
Speaker 15: rights have gotten insanely expensive.
47:40
Speaker 2: Because I look at all these HBCU right a DJ,
47:43
Speaker 2: the Howard Hampton games on CBS the other day and
47:45
Speaker 2: I'm watching a lot of these college games on TV,
47:47
Speaker 2: and I always thought to myself, with all of HBCUs
47:50
Speaker 2: and how it's been a Spurgs or HBCUs, everybody supporting HBCUs.
47:53
Speaker 2: It was just always weird to me why b ET
47:55
Speaker 2: didn't put their arm around and be like, I need
47:57
Speaker 2: all those games so people actually come there.
48:00
Speaker 15: It's a great question. And in fact, when BEET started,
48:03
Speaker 15: b ET used to air HBCU games. I'm told that
48:05
Speaker 15: there's footage of Bob Johnson running along the sidelines doing
48:08
Speaker 15: live commentary HBCU games, So I'm trying to look for it.
48:11
Speaker 15: But the reality is, because of the evolution of college
48:14
Speaker 15: football and because of the proliferation of access to sports
48:18
Speaker 15: across all these platforms, the demand, the viewership interest in
48:22
Speaker 15: HBCU sports right now isn't high enough to kind of
48:25
Speaker 15: support the investment. Having said that, the entry point that
48:29
Speaker 15: we think is really exciting, that we're really focused on
48:32
Speaker 15: is you now have a bunch of brothers who went
48:35
Speaker 15: off and played in the NFL. Have said we want
48:37
Speaker 15: to remedy this dynamic where top black athletes feel like
48:42
Speaker 15: they have to go to other schools to be competitive.
48:45
Speaker 1: We want to remedy that dynamic.
48:46
Speaker 15: Right, so you saw you know, you saw the recent
48:48
Speaker 15: announcements about the brothers, right right, Okay, there you go,
48:53
Speaker 15: and so now university, right there you go.
48:56
Speaker 1: So and that.
48:56
Speaker 15: So now the opportunity is we take our footprint, our platform,
49:01
Speaker 15: our relationships, and then we bring them to these luminaries.
49:05
Speaker 15: We're going back to these HBCUs and building those teams,
49:08
Speaker 15: and then we focus on the stories and the people
49:10
Speaker 15: and the journey and we get a broader community to
49:13
Speaker 15: be excited about this and we actually use it to
49:15
Speaker 15: build interest in HBCU football. And that we think is
49:19
Speaker 15: the way to actually elevate interest in HBCU football, which
49:22
Speaker 15: will then allow us to bring more games to the network.
49:25
Speaker 2: All Right, we have more with Chloe Bailey, the President
49:27
Speaker 2: of the NAACP, Derek Johnson, and.
49:29
Speaker 10: The president of the CEO or B E. T. Scott Mills.
49:32
Speaker 10: When we come back is the Breakfast Club, Good Morning,
49:34
Speaker 10: owning Everybody's eej n V.
49:36
Speaker 2: Jess Hilarius Charlomagne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club.
49:39
Speaker 2: Laurna Rosa is in on this interview as well. Chloe
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Speaker 2: Bailey is here, the president of the NAACP and the
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Speaker 2: president and the CEO of b E T is joining
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Speaker 2: us this morning.
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Speaker 10: Lauren.
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Speaker 5: Now, Chloe, I gotta ask you and bringing a date
49:52
Speaker 5: to the NAACP Awards, my god mom and my manager. Okay,
49:56
Speaker 5: so we we we'll see them. Were Burner boy, You'll
49:59
Speaker 5: have to ask you.
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Speaker 20: You're here, he's not Oh oh, Berna's not nominated.
50:07
Speaker 5: Now he's not nominated, but you look at you sheet.
50:10
Speaker 5: He not on air.
50:11
Speaker 20: Chloe's on air. But I'm speaking of support. And you
50:13
Speaker 20: know we were seeing you out with him in Nigeria.
50:15
Speaker 20: So is that a new thing?
50:16
Speaker 5: Or Nigeria was so beautiful? What about the night life?
50:22
Speaker 5: We saw you in the club with Berna?
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Speaker 19: Yes, the night life, it was so many lights, so many,
50:27
Speaker 19: so many cameras.
50:29
Speaker 5: I know you like everything with you when you was gonna.
50:35
Speaker 5: I mean, now, is burna boy? We want to know?
50:38
Speaker 5: Is that your boo? Is this the thing y'all together?
50:40
Speaker 8: Do?
50:40
Speaker 5: Y'all go together?
50:41
Speaker 3: Real bad?
50:41
Speaker 5: Y'all just having fun? What is it?
50:43
Speaker 19: Well, I'm a grown woman, so you know I had
50:46
Speaker 19: a great time in Nigeria.
50:49
Speaker 5: I really did.
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Speaker 3: So.
50:51
Speaker 20: I guess I'm not gonna get an answer on if
50:53
Speaker 20: you cared about the when you left.
50:55
Speaker 5: There was the video.
50:56
Speaker 20: People were like, oh my god, the Chloe time is over.
50:58
Speaker 20: Now he's out with this random other girl. I didn't
51:00
Speaker 20: see that burna boy. Yeah he was out of random,
51:07
Speaker 20: but it's because we all were so heavily together.
51:10
Speaker 5: We were like, oh, shoot, we don't see her do
51:11
Speaker 5: this much. And then yeah, he's a grown man. It's like,
51:16
Speaker 5: I'm a grown woman.
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Speaker 4: I could have imagine dating at twenty something and being
51:20
Speaker 4: put on the air.
51:21
Speaker 5: By being so being super fanous.
51:26
Speaker 20: Somebody video expecting the minute that you see her on
51:29
Speaker 20: that carpet, they're going to be looking like because anybody,
51:33
Speaker 20: anybody that she's with is always a thing.
51:35
Speaker 5: Anybody she's with, like going.
51:36
Speaker 1: To Bible study. I mean, you.
51:44
Speaker 20: Tell the girl you had told me you was in
51:46
Speaker 20: there studying the Bible, I would have been like, you
51:48
Speaker 20: know what, God is good, okay all the.
51:49
Speaker 3: Time, my girl, you can study anytime, But well.
52:01
Speaker 5: Can I have the questions that I'd be wanting to know?
52:03
Speaker 21: Because you know, he's got my moready got on me
52:09
Speaker 21: before I know her.
52:11
Speaker 5: She don't you know that? But no, honestly, I don't mind.
52:14
Speaker 19: I mean, I hate to say this, but it's my life.
52:18
Speaker 19: I mean, it's what I sign up for, so I
52:20
Speaker 19: can only expect it. It's just about how I handle it. Yeah,
52:23
Speaker 19: handle myself. So I don't think it should ever be
52:29
Speaker 19: pissiness towards the people who ask me.
52:32
Speaker 20: And I think, as a woman watching you navigate it,
52:34
Speaker 20: I'm always interested in how you deal with that because,
52:37
Speaker 20: for instance, you hear about the na A c P
52:39
Speaker 20: Image Awards, but it's like, we want to know that,
52:42
Speaker 20: so we have to ask. And being a person who's
52:44
Speaker 20: not learning how to be in the light of everything,
52:46
Speaker 20: I'm like, how how do you deal very?
52:55
Speaker 5: I know you don't you like the phone is dry?
53:03
Speaker 13: Dry pack one thing I would already emendated, the very dry.
53:08
Speaker 20: I am just I am a wife. All I do
53:09
Speaker 20: is say home, I just want to cook. You got
53:17
Speaker 20: I'm domesticated.
53:18
Speaker 5: This radio has made me be quiet. Okay, you get
53:20
Speaker 5: on here ready for that?
53:22
Speaker 19: So it's preparing you for that person.
53:25
Speaker 5: I appreciate it.
53:26
Speaker 10: Back to the n Spicy Chicken. Now, how are these
53:30
Speaker 10: nominees shows?
53:30
Speaker 2: And how do you guys choose the nominees and how
53:33
Speaker 2: do you guys go to who's winning?
53:35
Speaker 11: And how do y'all expand the categories?
53:36
Speaker 1: Every year?
53:36
Speaker 11: Because you know, things change, right, you got social media
53:38
Speaker 11: personality here now podcast the category.
53:41
Speaker 1: So start with the last question.
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Speaker 4: We recognized that that the industry has changing, so we
53:46
Speaker 4: try to keep up and we add categories digital content,
53:51
Speaker 4: categories fashion design.
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Speaker 7: Uh.
53:53
Speaker 4: There's a panel of close to five hundred people a
53:56
Speaker 4: half industry have non industry that's been selected across the
54:00
Speaker 4: country and those are the individuals that review the materials
54:03
Speaker 4: and they nominate. Oftentimes I don't even know what's being
54:05
Speaker 4: nominateduntil I finally get it. And then once nominated, some
54:09
Speaker 4: of the categories are voted on by the public, and
54:12
Speaker 4: so it's by popular vote in some areas and then
54:15
Speaker 4: in the other areas is by those who are critics
54:17
Speaker 4: in the space to ensure fairness in the outcome.
54:20
Speaker 1: So there is a mix that we try to balance
54:23
Speaker 1: those two things out got you.
54:25
Speaker 2: I also I want to ask about comedy as well.
54:27
Speaker 2: You see Netflix as heavy into comedy. You see a
54:29
Speaker 2: lot of giving comedy deals to them to every comedian.
54:31
Speaker 2: As Beet ever wanted to jump back into that space
54:33
Speaker 2: because Beet was one of the huge originators, especially of
54:36
Speaker 2: black comedy.
54:37
Speaker 15: I tracked with comicview, did Dean Cole puts you up
54:39
Speaker 15: to this question because he's been beating me up about.
54:41
Speaker 1: This no, but he's been up here recently, but now
54:43
Speaker 1: he has yes.
54:43
Speaker 15: So the reality is we're always looking for the way
54:47
Speaker 15: back into places right. And we did a quick partnership
54:51
Speaker 15: with Kevin Hart and Heartbeat where we did a test
54:54
Speaker 15: run of bringing back Comicview. And part of the thing
54:58
Speaker 15: is that really un understanding how our community wants to
55:03
Speaker 15: consume content right, and also understanding some people will use
55:07
Speaker 15: certain content as a loss leader for other things. And
55:10
Speaker 15: I'm not saying who would be using as a loss leader,
55:12
Speaker 15: but there are other platforms they're paying using content as
55:15
Speaker 15: a lost leader for other things. So we're week working
55:17
Speaker 15: with Dion right now to do a really fun thing
55:20
Speaker 15: in stand up comedy. He'll be thrilled that you put
55:22
Speaker 15: me on the spot and ask the question. But we
55:23
Speaker 15: think comedy clearly works, right. We see it working with
55:27
Speaker 15: the Miss Pat show. The series we have with Dion
55:29
Speaker 15: Average Joe is a thriller that has a comedic line
55:32
Speaker 15: through it. We really see that our audience loves comedy.
55:35
Speaker 1: Miss Pat.
55:36
Speaker 15: In addition to her Miss Patch show, we do Miss
55:38
Speaker 15: Pat Settles It, which is her doing a crazy court show,
55:41
Speaker 15: and so our audience is loving it. We think in
55:44
Speaker 15: twenty twenty five, given the way the world has changed,
55:46
Speaker 15: people need to laugh even more and so they'll be
55:48
Speaker 15: an even greater demand for comedy. So we're leaning into
55:51
Speaker 15: it in.
55:51
Speaker 11: A big way. Have there been conversations, Derek about changing
55:53
Speaker 11: the name of the NAACP since some people think colored
55:56
Speaker 11: people is a slur?
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Speaker 4: No, as we said around and said, we got all
56:02
Speaker 4: the colors are on the sable, don't we?
56:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, we have not.
56:04
Speaker 4: I mean we get caught up in semantics. We lose
56:07
Speaker 4: focused and it's no need to go to the semantics.
56:10
Speaker 4: We are The organization has been around one hundred and
56:12
Speaker 4: sixteen years. That's significant when you talk about this concept
56:17
Speaker 4: of a of a surplus mindset that what we can
56:19
Speaker 4: do we can't stick together, we can work together, we
56:22
Speaker 4: can prosper together. Oftentimes we say what black folks won't do,
56:25
Speaker 4: what we can do, we haven't done. We got to
56:28
Speaker 4: get away from that and not get caught up in semantics.
56:30
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, are we being effective
56:32
Speaker 4: with our mission? But if democracy work for all and
56:35
Speaker 4: ensuring opportunity for our community, that's our focus. The semantics
56:39
Speaker 4: go out the door. Yeah, I think and I think
56:40
Speaker 4: it was.
56:41
Speaker 1: Was it last year? It was?
56:42
Speaker 11: It was one of the presidents.
56:43
Speaker 1: I forgot from which chapter in the LACP.
56:46
Speaker 11: They were upset because somebody used the word colored people somewhere.
56:50
Speaker 1: I have no idea.
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Speaker 4: I don't see if you wonder every time I run
56:52
Speaker 4: across some he asked the questions because he's been saying,
56:54
Speaker 4: y'all need to change the name.
56:55
Speaker 1: He's been saying that since like nineteen eighty two. What
56:58
Speaker 1: does he see about the name? That shut what.
57:03
Speaker 5: I'm just asking.
57:06
Speaker 1: Right, right, end of the day.
57:07
Speaker 4: The Immature Wars is the crown jewel of the shows
57:11
Speaker 4: for America.
57:12
Speaker 3: Right.
57:13
Speaker 4: It gives us an opportunity for all of us to
57:16
Speaker 4: come together and appreciate the culture and breathing.
57:20
Speaker 8: Right.
57:21
Speaker 4: And we do that imagenerationally across all of all of
57:24
Speaker 4: the platforms.
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Speaker 11: That's right, And you can the voting is now open
57:28
Speaker 11: to the public at n w A c P Image
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Speaker 11: Awards dot it.
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Speaker 1: That's right.
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Speaker 10: We appreciate you guys for joining us this morning.
57:33
Speaker 11: Yes, to stop dragging Layer around for no reason. She's busy,
57:35
Speaker 11: she got things he could be doing.
57:36
Speaker 20: She was okay, okay, yes, okay, that's right, Yes, yes,
57:42
Speaker 20: if you are, If you were now, says the host.
57:44
Speaker 20: I think it would make so much sense because you're
57:46
Speaker 20: out here outside.
57:47
Speaker 5: We don't know what you're.
57:47
Speaker 1: Planning pressure it. They might have another host. You just
57:50
Speaker 1: say you want to host too.
57:52
Speaker 5: If I don't host, I can sing a little song.
57:55
Speaker 4: Listen, we've been rolling. We announce still host. Everybody gonna say, oh,
58:01
Speaker 4: that is a great choice, good decision. The host want
58:05
Speaker 4: to come on with Scott. They gonna talk about why
58:07
Speaker 4: that person is the host, and you're gonna say, this
58:09
Speaker 4: is the best thing that could have had happened.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, collaboration be done. Chloe.
58:13
Speaker 5: I know that's right, O.
58:14
Speaker 10: Chloe and Burn the boy hosting the.
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Speaker 1: That'd be a great collaboration.
58:20
Speaker 11: And you won't can take credit for me.
58:21
Speaker 5: He brought that back up.
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Speaker 2: I did all right, Chloe d Derreck Johnson, Scott Mills,
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Speaker 2: We appreciate you for joining us. Check out the NAACP
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Speaker 2: the fifty six NAACP Image Awards February twenty second at
58:32
Speaker 2: eight pm.
58:33
Speaker 1: And it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.
58:36
Speaker 1: Your mornings will never be the same. Don't be out
58:41
Speaker 1: here acting like a donkey.
58:42
Speaker 12: Hey, it's time for Donkey of the Day.
58:46
Speaker 1: I'm a big boy. I could take it if you
58:48
Speaker 1: feel I deserve it.
58:49
Speaker 10: Ain't no big deal, I know. Charlottagea god gonnes say
58:52
Speaker 10: his mouth.
58:52
Speaker 11: You've got to say something you may not agree with.
58:53
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean I'm needing. Who's getting that donky?
58:56
Speaker 10: That donkey that don't don't don't don't don't the.
58:59
Speaker 1: Other day right there to the breakfast club. Bitches, you
59:03
Speaker 1: can call me the donkey of the day, but like
59:05
Speaker 1: I mean, no harm. Donkey today goes to twenty two
59:08
Speaker 1: year old Malaysia Lee.
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Speaker 11: Malaysia is from Charlotte, North Carolina's to loute to the
59:12
Speaker 11: seven oh four dropping the clues bombs for Charlotte Man.
59:16
Speaker 11: One of the reasons, one of the reasons that I've
59:18
Speaker 11: chosen to be a mental health advocate is because I
59:20
Speaker 11: want us as humans to learn how.
59:22
Speaker 1: To control our emotions.
59:24
Speaker 11: Easier said than done, I know. But today's donkey is
59:27
Speaker 11: a prime example of it's not what happens to you,
59:29
Speaker 11: but how you react to it that matters. That's why
59:32
Speaker 11: you know, going to do that internal work on yourself matters, Okay,
59:37
Speaker 11: because you can get to that place where you realize
59:38
Speaker 11: you don't have to match energies, baby, and you realize
59:41
Speaker 11: you don't have to take everything personally, because, as Don
59:43
Speaker 11: Miguel Rowie says, and one of my favorite books to
59:46
Speaker 11: four agreements, whatever happens around you don't take it personally.
59:49
Speaker 11: Nothing other people do is because of you, It is
59:52
Speaker 11: because of themselves. Malaysia could have used that advice. See
59:56
Speaker 11: she could have used that second agreement because Malaysia was
59:59
Speaker 11: an employee at Win. He's into seven o four and
1:00:01
Speaker 11: according to store manager's a thirty one year old homeless
1:00:04
Speaker 11: man named Alandrolandro, Yeah, Alandro Romero Santos came in the
1:00:10
Speaker 11: restaurant requesting free food. Okay, the news report said he
1:00:13
Speaker 11: was homeless, so clearly he wasn't having the best day.
1:00:16
Speaker 11: After the manager provided him with a cup of water,
1:00:18
Speaker 11: Santos allegedly used the cup to fill it up with
1:00:21
Speaker 11: soda instead Pepsi coke sprite fana. I don't know what
1:00:24
Speaker 11: his soda choice was, but when Santos went to the restroom,
1:00:27
Speaker 11: the manager through the cup away. Why okay, I don't know.
1:00:32
Speaker 11: Let the man have his cup if he wants, you know,
1:00:34
Speaker 11: to get free refills. Who cares. In fact, give him
1:00:37
Speaker 11: some of those hot fries and the cheeseburger and tell
1:00:39
Speaker 11: him keep it moving.
1:00:40
Speaker 1: The man was homeless.
1:00:41
Speaker 11: Now, granted, they can't make a habit of that because
1:00:43
Speaker 11: you will have people coming to the store doing that
1:00:45
Speaker 11: all the time. But if you see someone in need,
1:00:47
Speaker 11: at least attempt to help. In this case, you didn't help.
1:00:50
Speaker 11: In fact, you're clearly hurt because when Santos came out
1:00:52
Speaker 11: the bathroom, he got mad. He got upset because the
1:00:55
Speaker 11: manager through the cup away, So he went to the
1:00:56
Speaker 11: parking lot, found another cup and return to the store
1:01:01
Speaker 11: to fill it with soda once again. Now, of course
1:01:03
Speaker 11: the manager didn't like that you went outside and found
1:01:06
Speaker 11: a cup in the parking lot to fill it back
1:01:07
Speaker 11: up with soda. By the way, that's nasty, Okay, that
1:01:10
Speaker 11: is disgusting, all right. That's how you know, desperate times
1:01:12
Speaker 11: called for desperate measures. Somebody might have to spit fleming
1:01:16
Speaker 11: that coup, okay, and tossed it before they left the
1:01:19
Speaker 11: parking lot. Might have been rolling a blunt, you know
1:01:21
Speaker 11: what it is. Sometimes when you're out somewhere and you
1:01:23
Speaker 11: sitting in the car, roll it up. You know, you
1:01:24
Speaker 11: got a little cup from a fast food restaurant. You
1:01:27
Speaker 11: put the blunt guts in that cup, spit in it,
1:01:30
Speaker 11: you know, toss it. That's why using a cup he
1:01:33
Speaker 11: found in the parking lot as gross. But according to
1:01:36
Speaker 11: this article, he's also homeless, so I'm not judging. But
1:01:39
Speaker 11: Santos got mad at the manager. So then Santo's threw
1:01:42
Speaker 11: the soda at Malaysia, who is sitting in the restaurant
1:01:45
Speaker 11: with the manager. Now, when I heard this story, I
1:01:48
Speaker 11: said to myself, I think that's the soap. I'm not
1:01:50
Speaker 11: the highest graded weed in the dispensary, knowing am I
1:01:52
Speaker 11: illegal expert, But that feels like in a soalt. It's
1:01:54
Speaker 11: not a punch, a slap, a push, but it is
1:01:56
Speaker 11: an attack. Okay, there's a reason sprite rhyme would fight. Okay,
1:02:01
Speaker 11: that is a man throwing a drink on a woman.
1:02:02
Speaker 11: So I did some research, and by research I mean
1:02:05
Speaker 11: I asked chat GPT is throwing a drink on a
1:02:07
Speaker 11: woman considered assault? And chat GPT said yes, throwing a
1:02:11
Speaker 11: drink on someone, including a woman, is generally considered assault
1:02:14
Speaker 11: our battery under the law, depending on the jurisdiction. Well,
1:02:17
Speaker 11: we need to lock up everyone on reality TV okay,
1:02:20
Speaker 11: from Loving Hip Hop, the Real Housewives. Round them all up,
1:02:23
Speaker 11: all right. Yes, Malaysia was assaulted. And Malaysia did what
1:02:25
Speaker 11: a lot of people doing the Carolina's north of South Okay,
1:02:28
Speaker 11: when't they get assaulted. She went to her car. Okay,
1:02:31
Speaker 11: she didn't have an honor. She went and got her pistol. Now,
1:02:33
Speaker 11: I don't know why the dude Santo stood there and
1:02:36
Speaker 11: waited for her to come back, but I guess he
1:02:38
Speaker 11: didn't expect this young lady to have a pistol.
1:02:40
Speaker 1: But she did.
1:02:41
Speaker 11: And Malaysia came back in the store, chased Alandro outside
1:02:44
Speaker 11: and shot at him three times, hit him once in
1:02:47
Speaker 11: the head while he was driving. Yes, this homeless man
1:02:49
Speaker 11: had a car okay, and Malaysia shot the car up
1:02:52
Speaker 11: and hit him in the head. And she was charged
1:02:54
Speaker 11: with a salt with a deadly weapon would intent to kill,
1:02:56
Speaker 11: and discharging the firearm into occupied property.
1:02:59
Speaker 1: And she is in customed.
1:03:00
Speaker 11: She's in custody at the Mecklenburg County Jail under a
1:03:02
Speaker 11: quarter million dollar bond. Now, I tell you, folks all
1:03:04
Speaker 11: the time, you cannot tell someone how to react. Okay,
1:03:08
Speaker 11: I might push you and your response might be to
1:03:10
Speaker 11: pull out a gun and pop me. Well, guess what,
1:03:11
Speaker 11: I shouldn't have pushed you. There is cause and effect
1:03:14
Speaker 11: that everything. But your uncle Charloah also tells you that
1:03:16
Speaker 11: when faced with certain situations, you have to start doing
1:03:18
Speaker 11: jail math in your head. Okay, you literally have to
1:03:21
Speaker 11: calculate how much time you could possibly get if you
1:03:24
Speaker 11: do said crime. You have to calculate in your head
1:03:26
Speaker 11: if you can afford to do what it is you're
1:03:28
Speaker 11: about to do. See Malaysia, I'm not mad at you
1:03:30
Speaker 11: for going to get your pistol. You was assaulted.
1:03:32
Speaker 1: I feel like.
1:03:33
Speaker 11: Owning a legal firearm in this country and knowing how
1:03:35
Speaker 11: to use it as a form of self care. But
1:03:36
Speaker 11: here's my issue and why you're getting the biggest he hall.
1:03:39
Speaker 11: It's because you didn't do your jail math, Malaysia. You
1:03:41
Speaker 11: had plenty of time to think about your choice. I
1:03:44
Speaker 11: just standing this man threw sold on you, and I'm
1:03:46
Speaker 11: glad you were able to go to your car to
1:03:47
Speaker 11: get your gun. But the gun should have been there
1:03:50
Speaker 11: to protect you from the situation escalating further, or maybe
1:03:53
Speaker 11: even the whole demand water cops come. I'm not expecting
1:03:55
Speaker 11: you to be a vigilante hero in this situation. But
1:03:58
Speaker 11: I just wanted you to move with a little less emotion. Okay,
1:04:01
Speaker 11: you gotta be strategic. I understand you were upset because
1:04:04
Speaker 11: he threw a drink on you, and who knows what else.
1:04:06
Speaker 11: You know, what's going on in his life or even
1:04:08
Speaker 11: in your life. But you went and got that pistol.
1:04:10
Speaker 11: He saw you coming, he hauled ass, got this car,
1:04:12
Speaker 11: and you let off shots. I can even understand that
1:04:14
Speaker 11: to a certain extent, because he might have been going
1:04:16
Speaker 11: to his car to get his weapon.
1:04:18
Speaker 1: But in this case, according to reports, he was driving off.
1:04:21
Speaker 11: Let him go. I know, hindsight is twenty twenty, and
1:04:24
Speaker 11: it's easy for me to say because I wasn't in
1:04:26
Speaker 11: this situation, but let him go. Tell you could even
1:04:28
Speaker 11: let one off in the air, just to let him
1:04:30
Speaker 11: know you will bust your gun. But shooting in his
1:04:32
Speaker 11: car three shots, gunshot waring too the head while he's
1:04:34
Speaker 11: driving off.
1:04:36
Speaker 1: You should have started doing that jail math in your head.
1:04:39
Speaker 7: Man.
1:04:39
Speaker 11: Luckily he's not deceased. But now you're sitting in the
1:04:42
Speaker 11: county with a quarter million dollar bail. I'm not counting
1:04:45
Speaker 11: your pockets, but you're twenty two in work at Windy's.
1:04:48
Speaker 11: I doubt you got a quarter million all the twenty
1:04:50
Speaker 11: five thousand, because most bonds are ten percent.
1:04:53
Speaker 1: I doubt you have either. But that's why jail math works.
1:04:56
Speaker 11: And you have to calculate these scenarios in your head
1:04:58
Speaker 11: before you make decisions. A dish subtraction, multiplication division? How
1:05:02
Speaker 11: long will I be gone if I do this? How
1:05:04
Speaker 11: much money will it cost me if.
1:05:06
Speaker 7: I do this?
1:05:06
Speaker 11: Subtract your emotion from things and ask yourself, is it
1:05:10
Speaker 11: worth it if I do this? The answer is no.
1:05:13
Speaker 11: You are in jail right now simply because a man
1:05:16
Speaker 11: wanted a free soda.
1:05:17
Speaker 1: Let him have it.
1:05:18
Speaker 11: It is not worth ending up in jail over a
1:05:21
Speaker 11: free soda and free fast food. I mean, come on, like,
1:05:26
Speaker 11: who who would go to jail for a free soda.
1:05:29
Speaker 1: And free fast food?
1:05:31
Speaker 3: Wow?
1:05:33
Speaker 1: Play stead music? Okay, guys here, mid size Mac is here,
1:05:42
Speaker 1: Mid size Mac is here?
1:05:43
Speaker 11: How are you?
1:05:44
Speaker 1: How are you? Mid sized Mac? Hungary? Anyway? What Mac?
1:05:48
Speaker 11: I know? I knew as soon as I said something
1:05:49
Speaker 11: about foods was gonna walk in here.
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Speaker 21: This is I don't understand how I'll keep telling you
1:05:53
Speaker 21: all that the big bags of biting back nothing is
1:05:56
Speaker 21: worth any of this, and not even just because, like
1:05:59
Speaker 21: you said, the jail mask. Every black person knows. We
1:06:02
Speaker 21: all have the same matra at work. I don't get
1:06:05
Speaker 21: paid enough for this. I agree yeah with them defending
1:06:11
Speaker 21: that I don't get paid enough for this. You want
1:06:13
Speaker 21: to steal from home depot. I don't get paid enough
1:06:16
Speaker 21: for this. You gotta keep You just got to tell
1:06:19
Speaker 21: yourself in the back of your mind constantly because that
1:06:22
Speaker 21: will prevent you from having.
1:06:23
Speaker 1: To do the jail mak.
1:06:24
Speaker 11: So even if they throw the food on you with
1:06:26
Speaker 11: a soda on you, you still like.
1:06:27
Speaker 1: Well, I'm the wrong person asked that somebody throw food
1:06:29
Speaker 1: at me and it's a game. What else you got?
1:06:37
Speaker 11: Please give Malaysia lead the biggest he huh Jesus Glzzy
1:06:43
Speaker 11: catcher that I said, somebody throw it at him? What
1:06:47
Speaker 11: else you got?
1:06:48
Speaker 1: God, that's not you know hr here they get paid
1:06:58
Speaker 1: enough for this, all right?
1:07:02
Speaker 10: Thank you, Glusey ketching Chela Ma, thank you that dog
1:07:04
Speaker 10: in the day.
1:07:04
Speaker 11: It's indeed the breakfast club, Good.
1:07:09
Speaker 2: Morning, everybody is DJ Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamage, the guy
1:07:14
Speaker 2: we are the breakfast Club, Laura La Rosa Philin didn't.
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Speaker 1: For just today we got a special guest in the building.
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Speaker 10: Yes, indeed we have the brother Leon Thomas.
1:07:20
Speaker 2: Welcome, Bro, It's good, it's good. Hey y'all feeling how
1:07:22
Speaker 2: you feeling? Bles's Black and Holly favorite. Leon, You are
1:07:25
Speaker 2: by far the greatest new male R and B singer
1:07:28
Speaker 2: doing it today.
1:07:29
Speaker 1: Man, thank you so much. That shouldn't even be up
1:07:31
Speaker 1: with debate. Man, Man, I really appreciate that.
1:07:34
Speaker 11: Man, how do you receive it?
1:07:35
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, to be honest, I try to
1:07:38
Speaker 7: just take it one step at a time, you know,
1:07:40
Speaker 7: I try to stay humble with everything. But I'm glad
1:07:42
Speaker 7: to be a new voice in R and B. You know,
1:07:44
Speaker 7: it's a genre that I love. You know, I'm trying
1:07:47
Speaker 7: to bring back live musicianship, real songs.
1:07:51
Speaker 1: You know.
1:07:51
Speaker 7: Writing with the team that I have has been in
1:07:54
Speaker 7: an amazing pleasure. And you know, just bringing like that,
1:07:57
Speaker 7: that organic feeling back to the live stage is like
1:07:59
Speaker 7: a bit thing for me. You know.
1:08:01
Speaker 2: For people that don't know Leon Thomas, you know you
1:08:03
Speaker 2: started on Broadway. Tell everybody how you got your start
1:08:05
Speaker 2: and your way into being this R and B star. Well, listen,
1:08:09
Speaker 2: I grew up in New York, started on Broadway out here.
1:08:13
Speaker 2: I did three Broadway plays from Lion King the Carolina
1:08:15
Speaker 2: changed the color purple. You assemble and like, yeah, yeah,
1:08:18
Speaker 2: I was assembling in Lion King, and then you know,
1:08:20
Speaker 2: I started booking movies and TV show.
1:08:23
Speaker 1: How how was that? I just took my kids to
1:08:25
Speaker 1: see it. It was insane.
1:08:26
Speaker 2: I was that training because it's a lot of shows,
1:08:28
Speaker 2: a lot of people in its lives, so you can't
1:08:31
Speaker 2: mess up.
1:08:31
Speaker 7: No, no, you can't mess up. It's eight shows a week.
1:08:33
Speaker 7: I was ten years old when I did my first
1:08:35
Speaker 7: Broadway play. Shout out to my mom and my family
1:08:38
Speaker 7: for you know, supporting me through that whole journey. And yeah, man,
1:08:41
Speaker 7: I went from being a regular kid to starring on
1:08:43
Speaker 7: Broadway and a matter of months.
1:08:45
Speaker 1: You know, now, how was that?
1:08:47
Speaker 2: Because it's not the typical thing New York kids do. Right,
1:08:50
Speaker 2: So you're singing, you're dancing, you're doing that. So how
1:08:52
Speaker 2: did you get it to that part of New York? No,
1:08:53
Speaker 2: because you don't go to Broadway.
1:08:55
Speaker 1: I don't know anybody. It went to Brow It's very different.
1:09:01
Speaker 1: I don't know.
1:09:01
Speaker 7: I had a couple homies who ended up in different plays,
1:09:04
Speaker 7: but for the most part, yeah, yeah, it was definitely
1:09:06
Speaker 7: like a.
1:09:06
Speaker 1: Bit of an anomaly for my neighborhood in Brooklyn.
1:09:09
Speaker 9: It was.
1:09:09
Speaker 7: It was kind of weird explaining it to my homies
1:09:11
Speaker 7: at school, like, yeah, I was just doing a show
1:09:12
Speaker 7: last night.
1:09:13
Speaker 1: They're like, what was going on? Yeah, we're not from
1:09:18
Speaker 1: New York, from the hoods of New York. Okay, But no.
1:09:24
Speaker 7: It was definitely a real pleasure, you know. But but
1:09:27
Speaker 7: but from there, I ended up doing a lot of
1:09:28
Speaker 7: TV and film.
1:09:29
Speaker 9: You know.
1:09:30
Speaker 7: I shot my first movie out here with Robin Williams
1:09:32
Speaker 7: and Terrence Howard called August Rush, which was an amazing pleasure,
1:09:36
Speaker 7: and that kind of brought me into a lot of
1:09:37
Speaker 7: a lot of TV after that, with Nickelodeon and Victorious Yeah, yeah, yeah,
1:09:43
Speaker 7: with Ariana Grande, and you know, that was a big journey.
1:09:46
Speaker 7: That was the number one show on the network at
1:09:47
Speaker 7: the time. We were beating out American Idol, and it
1:09:50
Speaker 7: was a way for the rest of the world to
1:09:51
Speaker 7: kind of really tap into who I am as a creative.
1:09:54
Speaker 7: But it took years of really honing in on who
1:09:57
Speaker 7: I am as an artist to get to this point,
1:10:00
Speaker 7: producing and writing for a bunch of different artists, winning
1:10:03
Speaker 7: a Grammy, working with Sizza and Babyface, Drake, a bunch
1:10:07
Speaker 7: of different people. It's been a real actually produced for
1:10:10
Speaker 7: Drake but but you know, shout out to him. Yeah allegedly, man,
1:10:15
Speaker 7: But you know, for I don't think there's anything wrong
1:10:18
Speaker 7: with it either. But it was a blessing to I mean,
1:10:20
Speaker 7: it's interesting because I'm an artist and people see me
1:10:23
Speaker 7: as a singer, they kind of forget that I also
1:10:25
Speaker 7: produced a lot of big records.
1:10:26
Speaker 1: You know, my production game is pretty tight. So yeah,
1:10:30
Speaker 1: all purpose lyrics like that of a rap.
1:10:34
Speaker 11: But that's why when I see Freddy Gibbs on your records,
1:10:36
Speaker 11: But it makes so much sense to be you're touching
1:10:39
Speaker 11: anybody from.
1:10:40
Speaker 7: Victoria's absolutely man. You know, I'll chop it up with
1:10:43
Speaker 7: Ari Avan. Joe Gia is a really good friend of mine,
1:10:46
Speaker 7: you know, Matt Bennett, a lot of the cast. We
1:10:48
Speaker 7: all hang out and do lunch. It's kind of like
1:10:49
Speaker 7: my last two years of high school were with them,
1:10:51
Speaker 7: so that's like my graduating class.
1:10:53
Speaker 1: Essentially.
1:10:55
Speaker 7: We were all in school together, so we filmed, but
1:10:57
Speaker 7: we also went to school. So those my really good friends.
1:10:59
Speaker 11: With Victor and her mom, I did a host of
1:11:01
Speaker 11: the New Year's Eve special with them for real, that's no,
1:11:04
Speaker 11: that's no people you ever wrote for im?
1:11:07
Speaker 1: Yeah?
1:11:07
Speaker 7: Actually I worked with her on her first album. That
1:11:09
Speaker 7: was my first time going number one with an album.
1:11:12
Speaker 7: I did about like four songs on her first album,
1:11:15
Speaker 7: Yours truly Wow. So that was a real, real pleasure.
1:11:18
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:11:18
Speaker 2: Did you know you always wanted to be an R
1:11:20
Speaker 2: and B singer? Like it was that the goal as
1:11:22
Speaker 2: a kid growing up? She always wanted to be an actor,
1:11:24
Speaker 2: Like and when did you pivot? When he was like,
1:11:25
Speaker 2: this is what I want to do.
1:11:27
Speaker 1: Listen.
1:11:27
Speaker 7: I feel like I did this role with Catherine Bigelow,
1:11:30
Speaker 7: She's an Oscar Award winning director, but I had to
1:11:32
Speaker 7: cut my dreads for it, and that was kind of
1:11:34
Speaker 7: like my last straw in acting.
1:11:35
Speaker 13: You know.
1:11:36
Speaker 7: I did this role for Detroit and I felt like,
1:11:38
Speaker 7: you know, I need to kind of tap back into
1:11:40
Speaker 7: who I am as an artist. You know, grew my
1:11:43
Speaker 7: dreads back, really got into my internal self meditating, really
1:11:47
Speaker 7: like tapping into who I am as a human being,
1:11:50
Speaker 7: and a lot of great music came out of that.
1:11:53
Speaker 7: You know, I always knew I wanted to be a singer,
1:11:55
Speaker 7: but I knew for a fact I needed to really
1:11:59
Speaker 7: present myself That's who I truly was. It's so easy
1:12:01
Speaker 7: to play a character when you're always acting. You know,
1:12:05
Speaker 7: I needed to come to the world as my true
1:12:07
Speaker 7: self when you.
1:12:08
Speaker 5: Were on the like the sets when you like even
1:12:10
Speaker 5: with like Victorious and stuff like that. What was your mom?
1:12:13
Speaker 20: And like your parents there often or talked a lot
1:12:16
Speaker 20: about that too, Like y'all parents were close.
1:12:19
Speaker 7: Now they were there, they were there. You know, My
1:12:21
Speaker 7: mom was never like a mamager like over my over
1:12:25
Speaker 7: my shoulder kind of mom. But she was also very
1:12:27
Speaker 7: protective of my piece and mental health and making sure
1:12:32
Speaker 7: that I'm just like in a good a good space
1:12:34
Speaker 7: while I'm while I'm trying to create something timeless, and
1:12:36
Speaker 7: you know, shout out to her for just always you know,
1:12:38
Speaker 7: creating safe spaces for me throughout that journey.
1:12:41
Speaker 11: You know, from getting lined.
1:12:46
Speaker 7: It was definitely nuts, definitely nuts, you know, seeing seeing
1:12:50
Speaker 7: how definitely it's definitely definitely insane.
1:12:55
Speaker 1: Don't say that, definitely nuts after that, Yeah, I know,
1:12:58
Speaker 1: I know, you know, it's crazy. It's crazy because you know,
1:13:01
Speaker 1: I just saw the doc not too long ago.
1:13:03
Speaker 7: It's nothing the eye opening and a lot of my
1:13:06
Speaker 7: castmates we hopped on a zoom call we all wanted
1:13:08
Speaker 7: to talk about it, and luckily during during our seasons
1:13:11
Speaker 7: it was it was very wholesome and chill. But you know,
1:13:15
Speaker 7: shout out to anybody who dealt with anything bad. I mean,
1:13:18
Speaker 7: I you know, my heart definitely goes out to them.
1:13:21
Speaker 11: The thing I love about your music too is number one.
1:13:23
Speaker 11: I can tell you man, you got a sense of freedom. Yeah,
1:13:26
Speaker 11: but did that come with money or did that come
1:13:28
Speaker 11: with just how you came up, you know, with your
1:13:30
Speaker 11: mom doing music, so you always felt free as an artist?
1:13:33
Speaker 1: Yeah?
1:13:34
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, I think the greatest thing about
1:13:36
Speaker 7: being an artist is that it's a it's a great
1:13:38
Speaker 7: representation of being a free black man, you know, like
1:13:42
Speaker 7: you know, being able to wear what I want, you know,
1:13:44
Speaker 7: say what I want on on record is really important
1:13:47
Speaker 7: to me.
1:13:48
Speaker 9: You know.
1:13:48
Speaker 7: I try to stay as grounded and uh as real
1:13:51
Speaker 7: to who I am as I can be. I mean,
1:13:53
Speaker 7: I think it's it's it's really easy to want to
1:13:55
Speaker 7: be an artist and play a character who you think
1:13:58
Speaker 7: people want you to be. But I'm doing my best
1:14:00
Speaker 7: to just like kind of just say what I want.
1:14:03
Speaker 1: Do I want?
1:14:03
Speaker 20: You know, when you come up with songs with like
1:14:05
Speaker 20: I like feelings, on Silent with I Love Vallet, but
1:14:08
Speaker 20: songs like that, Like when I listen to it, each
1:14:10
Speaker 20: time I get something different from it. So the first
1:14:12
Speaker 20: time I listened to I was like, Oh, this is
1:14:13
Speaker 20: like guys just being like we keep her feelings to herself.
1:14:15
Speaker 20: And then the second time I listened, I'm like, this
1:14:17
Speaker 20: is the trauma that they deal with, because like he
1:14:19
Speaker 20: mentions PTSD and a bunch of other things, like how
1:14:22
Speaker 20: do you first of all, sitting back you wrote that, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
1:14:26
Speaker 20: sitting back and writing with him, how do you be like, Okay,
1:14:30
Speaker 20: here's all the things that we want people to get
1:14:32
Speaker 20: when they hear this, or do you guys just write
1:14:34
Speaker 20: and whatever people get they get Like were you dealing
1:14:36
Speaker 20: with something yourself then?
1:14:37
Speaker 9: Or you know?
1:14:38
Speaker 1: The way I wrote that record was really interesting.
1:14:40
Speaker 7: I was in I was in Italy actually, I was
1:14:43
Speaker 7: working with Ya and Todd Dollars on the Vultures One project,
1:14:47
Speaker 7: and I just had some lyrics kind of you know,
1:14:49
Speaker 7: bubbling up in my head. But I think it was
1:14:51
Speaker 7: one of those moments that it was just kind of
1:14:54
Speaker 7: stream of consciousness. I didn't really think too hard on
1:14:57
Speaker 7: my sections. That was like my second take that you're
1:14:59
Speaker 7: hearing it wasn't like me like kind of really punching
1:15:02
Speaker 7: in a bunch of different ideas.
1:15:03
Speaker 1: It was just kind of flowing. And when wile A.
1:15:05
Speaker 7: Heard it, that was probably the hardest verse to get
1:15:09
Speaker 7: because we did probably we did like five sessions to
1:15:12
Speaker 7: get that one verse. But Yo, he's so talented and
1:15:15
Speaker 7: seeing how he crafted his verse, I mean, he would
1:15:18
Speaker 7: do like five bars at the time, and he really
1:15:20
Speaker 7: cared about the poetry of it all. And it's why
1:15:23
Speaker 7: I really respect him as an artist. He's just a
1:15:26
Speaker 7: true lyricist.
1:15:27
Speaker 11: All Right.
1:15:27
Speaker 10: We got more with Leon Thomas when we come back,
1:15:29
Speaker 10: don't Move.
1:15:30
Speaker 1: It's to Breakfast Club. Good Morning Morning.
1:15:31
Speaker 2: Everybody is DJ Envy, Jess Hilarius, Charlamagne the Guy. We
1:15:35
Speaker 2: are the Breakfast Club. Laurn La Rossa joined us for
1:15:38
Speaker 2: this Leon Thomas interview. Of course, Leon Thomas a singer, songwriter,
1:15:41
Speaker 2: producer and acting. His album Mutt is out right now,
1:15:44
Speaker 2: and we got to congratulate you because you gotta Grammy
1:15:46
Speaker 2: for your record with Scissa. We tell everybody that we
1:15:48
Speaker 2: helped with that because we played Snools every morning four times.
1:15:54
Speaker 7: You wrote Snooze was produced on Snooze Man. First of all,
1:15:58
Speaker 7: let's clear this up. Shout out to Scissor for writing
1:16:00
Speaker 7: that record. We were producing in a separate room and
1:16:03
Speaker 7: she heard the instrumental and was like, Yo, what is that?
1:16:06
Speaker 7: And you know, there is something that I do where
1:16:08
Speaker 7: I like take my voice and I chop it up
1:16:11
Speaker 7: like a sample because clearing samples is really expensive and
1:16:13
Speaker 7: cuts into the publishing. So rather than it's like actually
1:16:17
Speaker 7: doing a sample, I'll just you know, sing a little something, right.
1:16:20
Speaker 7: So she really liked that and then took it into
1:16:22
Speaker 7: the other room and wrote an amazing song and being
1:16:25
Speaker 7: a part of the production on that with Babyface legendary
1:16:27
Speaker 7: Babyface was a true pleasure man. I mean, it was
1:16:31
Speaker 7: a real journey to see that song go from like
1:16:33
Speaker 7: a crowd favorite to a Grammy Award winning R and
1:16:36
Speaker 7: V song.
1:16:36
Speaker 1: Man that that was definitely life changing for me.
1:16:39
Speaker 11: You got a deduction team, right, Yeah, yeah.
1:16:41
Speaker 1: The Rascals me, Me and and Chris tians Man.
1:16:44
Speaker 7: We've been working together since we were like eighteen, so
1:16:47
Speaker 7: it's really cool to see the growth. I Mean, we
1:16:49
Speaker 7: started off, you know a little shaky when it game
1:16:51
Speaker 7: in production, but it's nice to see us, you know,
1:16:53
Speaker 7: really develop into the producers.
1:16:54
Speaker 1: We are now. We had great mentors.
1:16:56
Speaker 20: Man, you have such big moments like even before that,
1:17:00
Speaker 20: during that, but it's like, I don't know, like when
1:17:02
Speaker 20: do you feel like things started like to click finally
1:17:04
Speaker 20: where people were like, oh, shoot, Leon, like.
1:17:07
Speaker 5: We get it now.
1:17:07
Speaker 1: It's really interesting.
1:17:09
Speaker 7: I like to call it the Drake effect when I
1:17:12
Speaker 7: was working When I was working with Drake, all of
1:17:14
Speaker 7: a sudden, label executives who have known me for years,
1:17:16
Speaker 7: were like, eh, I think you could be an artist,
1:17:19
Speaker 7: you know, And I was like, okay, so I kind
1:17:21
Speaker 7: of peeped that and I said, okay, well, let's start
1:17:23
Speaker 7: kind of building this out. But I knew I wanted
1:17:25
Speaker 7: that same formula that Drake had with a little Wayne
1:17:29
Speaker 7: and and you know, working with Todd dallas Son was
1:17:31
Speaker 7: a really smart move, not only because he's just an
1:17:34
Speaker 7: amazing artist, but because it was just nice to have
1:17:37
Speaker 7: a mentor who had done it already. So he's he's
1:17:40
Speaker 7: just like kind of like, yo, try this, make sure
1:17:42
Speaker 7: the look has this, or you know, even when it
1:17:45
Speaker 7: came to the music, like here's how you really format
1:17:47
Speaker 7: an album. And I'm definitely doing a lot of studying,
1:17:50
Speaker 7: you know. Shout out to Todd dallas son for sure.
1:17:52
Speaker 7: He definitely, you know, saw something in me that a
1:17:54
Speaker 7: lot of label executives were not sure about. And it's
1:17:58
Speaker 7: cool to see it developing.
1:17:59
Speaker 1: How did you real? Tongue?
1:18:00
Speaker 7: How I was actually working on this album as a
1:18:03
Speaker 7: producer on featuring Todd Dollars Sign, I was like one
1:18:07
Speaker 7: of I think nine producers on a song with Kanye
1:18:09
Speaker 7: and Thundercat and a bunch of other people.
1:18:12
Speaker 1: Nine producers on one record.
1:18:13
Speaker 7: Yeah, because it when it was like point five, like
1:18:16
Speaker 7: I was just there out of this or that vocal
1:18:19
Speaker 7: and like some bass or something. But he had everybody
1:18:22
Speaker 7: play like their unreleased records and I played them some
1:18:24
Speaker 7: of my first album as like demos, and Todd was like, yo,
1:18:29
Speaker 7: you really You're really tight, you know as an artist,
1:18:31
Speaker 7: he was like man, And he was originally trying to
1:18:34
Speaker 7: record one of the songs that I had, but I
1:18:35
Speaker 7: was like, nah, I want you to feature on it.
1:18:37
Speaker 7: And h Over the years we became really good friends.
1:18:40
Speaker 7: I was working with him a lot and just kind
1:18:42
Speaker 7: of developed into a into a whole situation with Sean Baron.
1:18:45
Speaker 7: Sean Barron is the guy who officially like put it
1:18:48
Speaker 7: all together with Easy Money in Motown is.
1:18:50
Speaker 20: It tough navigating because people are getting to know you
1:18:53
Speaker 20: now and everybody's falling in love with your music now,
1:18:55
Speaker 20: and have such a close association with Drake, you have
1:18:57
Speaker 20: to like pick and choose where you go musically and
1:18:59
Speaker 20: what you do musically with who you know.
1:19:01
Speaker 11: Honestly, can you work with Kendrick Lamar if you wanted to?
1:19:04
Speaker 1: Yeah?
1:19:05
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I know that's what she's asking. I mean,
1:19:06
Speaker 7: the way, the way I really look at it is
1:19:08
Speaker 7: just like on a political level, I make R and B.
1:19:11
Speaker 7: You know, obviously I make hip hop too, but I'm
1:19:14
Speaker 7: really focused on my artist's journey. So I mean, Kendrick
1:19:17
Speaker 7: is such a huge artist, I don't really foresee us
1:19:19
Speaker 7: working together in the near future, and even with Drake,
1:19:23
Speaker 7: you know, I still want to take my steps to
1:19:25
Speaker 7: really build on my own two feet as an artist.
1:19:27
Speaker 7: So I'm doing what i have to do right now
1:19:29
Speaker 7: to really like grow my own business. Touring is a
1:19:32
Speaker 7: big thing for me. I'm really focused on that. I'm
1:19:34
Speaker 7: hitting the road all this year and working on more records.
1:19:37
Speaker 7: So I mean, shout out to everybody, but I'm definitely
1:19:40
Speaker 7: focused on me.
1:19:41
Speaker 11: How old were you when you realize vibes don't lie.
1:19:44
Speaker 11: One of my favorite records when you first realized Vibes
1:19:47
Speaker 11: don't Live.
1:19:50
Speaker 1: I think that was that was definitely early twenties.
1:19:52
Speaker 7: I think uh LA is filled with facades and people
1:19:56
Speaker 7: who are pretending to be something they aren't, people who
1:19:59
Speaker 7: move from their home town and create a whole new persona.
1:20:02
Speaker 7: Uh So, I think for me, just really studying folks,
1:20:05
Speaker 7: especially a lot of the women you deal with out there.
1:20:07
Speaker 7: You know, it's really important to study their actions and
1:20:09
Speaker 7: out their words.
1:20:10
Speaker 11: I love the fact that you are encouraging women women
1:20:13
Speaker 11: to keep their healthy. Yes, did you ever want to
1:20:17
Speaker 11: be a collegist?
1:20:18
Speaker 7: No?
1:20:21
Speaker 11: No, no, no, I wasn't on the list.
1:20:22
Speaker 1: I just listen. Yeah, I just listen. I just listen.
1:20:26
Speaker 11: Man, they tell you like, hey, I'm not feeling the
1:20:28
Speaker 11: best of this.
1:20:29
Speaker 7: No. I mean, I just think pH balance is a conversation,
1:20:31
Speaker 7: and you know, I just listen because you was very
1:20:38
Speaker 7: very specific. She said she only drink water, she keep
1:20:42
Speaker 7: that healthy.
1:20:44
Speaker 1: They sat on.
1:20:44
Speaker 20: Twitter, you'd be talking crazy like that, but you sing
1:20:46
Speaker 20: it so people can't be you had that conversation in
1:20:50
Speaker 20: real life, which your home like you're not your homegrown.
1:20:54
Speaker 7: I'm just big on shock value. I think songs, especially
1:20:57
Speaker 7: R and B songs, have gotten a bit not boring.
1:20:59
Speaker 7: But I think we've you've kind of already hit the
1:21:01
Speaker 7: golden era of R and B. So I'm just finding
1:21:03
Speaker 7: new ways to make people's ears, you know, perk up
1:21:07
Speaker 7: and their minds move. I think social media and podcasts
1:21:11
Speaker 7: are really interesting to me. You know, these phone mics
1:21:14
Speaker 7: bring out so many conversations, and I think as an
1:21:16
Speaker 7: R and B artist, I want to find ways to
1:21:19
Speaker 7: let that live on the record, and it doesn't always
1:21:21
Speaker 7: have to be like verbatim of what I'm going through
1:21:24
Speaker 7: in real life.
1:21:25
Speaker 1: I think it's important to create the drama.
1:21:27
Speaker 19: You know.
1:21:28
Speaker 7: I kind of see music as you know, script and
1:21:30
Speaker 7: the score. So sometimes the records are just like really
1:21:33
Speaker 7: good dramatizations of like what I'm seeing, you.
1:21:38
Speaker 5: Think everybody, But but like, how does that go for
1:21:42
Speaker 5: you right now?
1:21:43
Speaker 1: I mean I don't think. I don't think it's now.
1:21:45
Speaker 20: Expecting you to be like, all right, here's the check,
1:21:47
Speaker 20: Like how do you because you got the songs like that?
1:21:49
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you know, I definitely got the songs. But
1:21:51
Speaker 7: I think it's just important to be honest with your partner,
1:21:54
Speaker 7: you know, communicate. But but I think it's it's a
1:21:57
Speaker 7: it's a pretty interesting conversation. I try to stay out
1:21:59
Speaker 7: of it.
1:21:59
Speaker 11: But to you, I wax test.
1:22:02
Speaker 1: No, I don't even know what that is you putting
1:22:05
Speaker 1: me right now.
1:22:06
Speaker 11: Wax test a little bit that the little wax on it,
1:22:10
Speaker 11: but a little pinky. Put the pinky inside and hold
1:22:13
Speaker 11: on what you you got something that's it should be you.
1:22:19
Speaker 1: Listen you say should do it on yourself. I don't
1:22:23
Speaker 1: know where you.
1:22:25
Speaker 7: Do.
1:22:25
Speaker 1: That is nothing.
1:22:26
Speaker 2: That's the South Carolina the same road thing that they do.
1:22:29
Speaker 2: It doesn't I do not try that.
1:22:32
Speaker 5: He that doesn't Your mom never told you that you
1:22:35
Speaker 5: g goys to make it. Go drink gingerrolls. You talking
1:22:38
Speaker 5: about ginger rop everything not ear wax. Don't listen to.
1:22:50
Speaker 1: That's why you're saying that. That's why you say that's crazy.
1:22:53
Speaker 5: Locirla used to be like, go get some ginger and
1:22:55
Speaker 5: lay down.
1:22:56
Speaker 1: Wow about no we lovel around here.
1:23:02
Speaker 11: Did your therapist really tell you that you're too detached
1:23:05
Speaker 11: or that you commit Nah?
1:23:09
Speaker 7: I think I think you know that bar for me.
1:23:12
Speaker 7: I have a co writer, Busy Krug, and he lives
1:23:15
Speaker 7: in Miami.
1:23:15
Speaker 1: Great Rapper. That was a bar that came from him.
1:23:18
Speaker 1: He's very deep into therapy.
1:23:19
Speaker 7: But I'm glad that we talked about it on record
1:23:21
Speaker 7: because I mean it's something that I definitely did try
1:23:24
Speaker 7: out over the pandemic, and it's something that I actually
1:23:26
Speaker 7: really respect you a lot for a champion, you know.
1:23:29
Speaker 7: But but but yeah, that was a that was a
1:23:31
Speaker 7: bar from Busy, But I thought it was important to
1:23:32
Speaker 7: add in there.
1:23:33
Speaker 5: You know, don't try to blame Busy now, nah.
1:23:36
Speaker 1: I mean, you know that's my co you know, shout
1:23:38
Speaker 1: out to him, you know what I'm saying.
1:23:40
Speaker 7: Like, we we write a lot of our songs together,
1:23:42
Speaker 7: and I really respect a lot of the perspectives he
1:23:44
Speaker 7: brings to a lot of my poignant records.
1:23:47
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, some great bars. Can we get into
1:23:49
Speaker 1: a song of that? What you want? That would be amazing?
1:23:51
Speaker 1: Let's play? Yes it is? It would be really cool.
1:23:52
Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's get into the record right now.
1:23:54
Speaker 2: Is yes, it is that we got more with Leon
1:23:56
Speaker 2: Thomas when we come back.
1:23:57
Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club.
1:23:58
Speaker 2: Good morning to everybody, is ded Jesselai Shallam and the
1:24:02
Speaker 2: guy We are the Breakfast Club. Laura ros is joining
1:24:04
Speaker 2: us on this interview, and we're still kicking it with
1:24:07
Speaker 2: Leon Thomas Lauren for.
1:24:09
Speaker 20: Dancing with When I listened to Dancing with the Demons,
1:24:11
Speaker 20: do you ever get like Miguel references sometimes absolutely listening,
1:24:16
Speaker 20: I'm like, oh my gosh, Like I wonder if like that, Like,
1:24:19
Speaker 20: are y'all do you know him?
1:24:20
Speaker 3: Yeah?
1:24:20
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's like my big bro. We actually did a
1:24:22
Speaker 7: movie together. He was in Detroit when I had to
1:24:24
Speaker 7: cut my hair for he was. He was an amazing,
1:24:28
Speaker 7: amazing mentor for me for some years. You know that
1:24:31
Speaker 7: bridge between R and B and rock and roll, He's
1:24:34
Speaker 7: traveled across that bridge many a time.
1:24:36
Speaker 1: I definitely look up to him when it comes to that.
1:24:39
Speaker 7: And you know, for me, because I played multiple instruments,
1:24:41
Speaker 7: you know, I definitely try to just embody a lot
1:24:44
Speaker 7: of that energy. But but I think we both have
1:24:46
Speaker 7: the same influences as well.
1:24:48
Speaker 11: I agree with Lauren on that Miguel to me before
1:24:51
Speaker 11: you was the last great R and B male R
1:24:55
Speaker 11: and B singer. To me, I'm just talk about the
1:24:56
Speaker 11: new guy, right right, Yeah, you know, yeah legend I'm talking.
1:25:00
Speaker 11: He was the last one to me.
1:25:02
Speaker 1: And I felt the same way when I heard Dancing
1:25:03
Speaker 1: with the Demons.
1:25:04
Speaker 11: I feel like I feel like you're talking to yourself
1:25:05
Speaker 11: on that record, though, you said you can't seem to
1:25:07
Speaker 11: save yourself or never learn to ask for help, going
1:25:10
Speaker 11: out all night searching for a feeling. M hm, So
1:25:14
Speaker 11: so what what what have you learned to ask for help?
1:25:16
Speaker 5: And so what I thought, because I took it as
1:25:18
Speaker 5: it wasn't talking about a.
1:25:19
Speaker 7: Woman at some point, well, I mean it's interesting for me,
1:25:23
Speaker 7: like that record. When I wrote it, I wrote it
1:25:26
Speaker 7: in two different days. The first day I was, you know,
1:25:29
Speaker 7: micro dosin on shrooms, so it's a bit of a haze.
1:25:31
Speaker 7: The next day I listened to it and I was like, man,
1:25:33
Speaker 7: this is really poignant stuff. I mean, it's just really
1:25:35
Speaker 7: talking about being up all night and searching for a feeling,
1:25:38
Speaker 7: and it's trying to fill voids. I feel like, as uh,
1:25:41
Speaker 7: you know, when you're in your single journey, you can
1:25:44
Speaker 7: you can try to fill a void with a with
1:25:45
Speaker 7: a stranger, and that's not always very healthy and fun.
1:25:50
Speaker 7: It could be fun, it could be fun, for sure,
1:25:52
Speaker 7: but but but, and then, especially when you're when you're
1:25:55
Speaker 7: in the limelight. The second verse is more so talking
1:25:57
Speaker 7: about being in the limelight and trying to fill Nobody
1:26:00
Speaker 7: really talks about the darkness that comes with the flashing lights.
1:26:04
Speaker 7: And yeah, that that that record was very deep and
1:26:07
Speaker 7: very personal for me. You know, I'm glad that people
1:26:09
Speaker 7: resonate with it.
1:26:09
Speaker 2: Now you're talking about microdosing on shrooms, But what does
1:26:12
Speaker 2: that put your mind? And do you always do that
1:26:14
Speaker 2: to produce and write?
1:26:15
Speaker 3: Nah?
1:26:15
Speaker 7: Nah, I mean, I think I think for this this album,
1:26:18
Speaker 7: it was an interesting opportunity to kind of unplug. I mean,
1:26:21
Speaker 7: I wasn't doing as many shows around that time too,
1:26:24
Speaker 7: so it was really helpful to to kind of just
1:26:27
Speaker 7: get into my own head and try to figure out
1:26:28
Speaker 7: who I am.
1:26:29
Speaker 8: You know.
1:26:30
Speaker 7: I definitely did a lot of manifest and a lot
1:26:32
Speaker 7: of just like writing down who I wanted to be
1:26:34
Speaker 7: as a human being around that time, a lot of journaling,
1:26:37
Speaker 7: you know, and looking back at that season in my life.
1:26:41
Speaker 7: It was it was a journey for me to evolve
1:26:43
Speaker 7: into who I am right now. I wouldn't suggest people
1:26:46
Speaker 7: just go super crazy on shrooms or anything, but I
1:26:49
Speaker 7: think microdosing, you know, small amount could be healthy if
1:26:52
Speaker 7: you're trying to just find yourself, you know.
1:26:54
Speaker 1: And at that time, I was trying to find myself,
1:26:56
Speaker 1: you know.
1:26:56
Speaker 7: Micro do You said you were trying to find yourself,
1:26:59
Speaker 7: did you. Yeah, But I mean I feel like that's
1:27:01
Speaker 7: a constant journey. That's like the whole part of finding yourself.
1:27:04
Speaker 7: You realize it. It never stops because we're always evolving,
1:27:08
Speaker 7: you know. But it's it's great that I was able
1:27:10
Speaker 7: to do it through music. That that that was like
1:27:12
Speaker 7: a version of musical therapy for me. And I'm glad
1:27:15
Speaker 7: that people are resonating with it.
1:27:16
Speaker 3: You know.
1:27:16
Speaker 1: I love how you're normalizing dogs on but I'm not
1:27:19
Speaker 1: a dog anymore.
1:27:20
Speaker 11: There is a young, unhealed version of me that would
1:27:23
Speaker 11: have really appreciated that that record.
1:27:25
Speaker 1: Because you make it sound so fun. It's almost like
1:27:29
Speaker 1: women are just gonna bring.
1:27:30
Speaker 3: You in, like.
1:27:32
Speaker 11: Let me domesticate you.
1:27:34
Speaker 3: Nah.
1:27:34
Speaker 7: I mean I was really just documenting what I saw,
1:27:38
Speaker 7: but nah nah no, definitely definitely talk to me post
1:27:48
Speaker 7: you know, post breakup, where where I just had to
1:27:50
Speaker 7: I just had to figure it out. But I think
1:27:52
Speaker 7: that's all a part of living, you know, you get
1:27:54
Speaker 7: nervous though. This is a post breakup album. Yeah, this
1:27:58
Speaker 7: is a post breakup album. So this is me documenting,
1:28:01
Speaker 7: you know, finding myself. First off, like you know, you
1:28:03
Speaker 7: you're you're kind of broken after that, and then you
1:28:05
Speaker 7: got to you gotta put the pieces back together.
1:28:07
Speaker 11: Her fault.
1:28:08
Speaker 1: Yes, No, that's not her fault. It's fault Leon.
1:28:11
Speaker 11: It's her fault that you ended up being a dog.
1:28:13
Speaker 11: You went through your own face. I think it's very
1:28:17
Speaker 11: commendable to that on the song. A safe place you
1:28:20
Speaker 11: let the person you're dealing with, no, this isn't a
1:28:22
Speaker 11: safe place.
1:28:23
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think knowing that I wasn't
1:28:27
Speaker 7: necessarily ready to settle down. I think that conversation definitely
1:28:30
Speaker 7: came up a lot during I guess you would call
1:28:32
Speaker 7: them all face you know, just understanding like yo' I'm
1:28:34
Speaker 7: not trying to settle down. This is a this is
1:28:36
Speaker 7: a fun place, you know. This is a a time
1:28:39
Speaker 7: period where I'm just figuring me out. Work is crazy,
1:28:41
Speaker 7: it's ecnic, you know, And I think having that conversation
1:28:44
Speaker 7: was important to, like you said, just avoid people not
1:28:47
Speaker 7: understanding what it was at the time.
1:28:50
Speaker 2: That's a personal because you're honest in music, but it's
1:28:52
Speaker 2: difficult to be face to face with somebody and be lying.
1:28:54
Speaker 1: It's very is very difficult.
1:28:57
Speaker 9: You know.
1:28:57
Speaker 7: I really try my best to be as honest as
1:28:58
Speaker 7: I can, But yeah, those are hard conversations.
1:29:01
Speaker 19: Man.
1:29:01
Speaker 1: You know, I can't sit here and say I've always
1:29:03
Speaker 1: done it right or I'm perfect or anything.
1:29:05
Speaker 7: But I try. I try to be like real, you know.
1:29:08
Speaker 7: I try to explain myself. But even when you explain yourself,
1:29:11
Speaker 7: sometimes wires get crossed, you know. So I'm packing it
1:29:14
Speaker 7: and communicating, you know, it's an important thing later on.
1:29:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, little woman won't hear that. She just lets
1:29:18
Speaker 1: you hit wrong.
1:29:19
Speaker 20: Yeah, it's it's yeah, it's not as a woman ever
1:29:22
Speaker 20: said that to you when you were trying to like create,
1:29:24
Speaker 20: like all right, maybe this is like a thing and
1:29:26
Speaker 20: she's like, yo, I don't.
1:29:28
Speaker 8: Want to do that.
1:29:30
Speaker 9: Yeah.
1:29:30
Speaker 7: Actually yeah, yeah. In my in my early twenties, I
1:29:33
Speaker 7: was talking to this amazing artist. Uh and yeah, she
1:29:36
Speaker 7: was just like listen, maybe the same safe place kind
1:29:39
Speaker 7: of thing. You know, anybody know now She's like, no, no, no,
1:29:42
Speaker 7: I don't think you can tear it up a little bit.
1:29:43
Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, no.
1:29:44
Speaker 7: It was all good for me, I mean at that point,
1:29:51
Speaker 7: but yeah, yeah, you know, it was definitely you know,
1:29:53
Speaker 7: it was definitely a realization for me. I was like, oh,
1:29:56
Speaker 7: it can happen on that side too. I was like
1:29:58
Speaker 7: twenty maybe twenty one, you know, oh yeah, yeah, So
1:30:01
Speaker 7: I was like real young green, like, oh okay, alright, cool.
1:30:05
Speaker 7: So you're all looking for a relationship now if the
1:30:07
Speaker 7: right person. Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely I'm definitely in that
1:30:09
Speaker 7: mode right now.
1:30:10
Speaker 20: Are you dated?
1:30:11
Speaker 5: Would you date other like artists, celebrities or do you
1:30:13
Speaker 5: like how does that work? Are you doing?
1:30:15
Speaker 1: It's just hectic.
1:30:16
Speaker 7: I mean, you're kind of inviting the media into your
1:30:18
Speaker 7: life like the one safe place you have. But I mean,
1:30:22
Speaker 7: who knows if I really catch a vibe with somebody
1:30:24
Speaker 7: who happens to be fan. I mean, I don't really
1:30:26
Speaker 7: care about that side of things. You know, I've been
1:30:28
Speaker 7: in the game a long time. I've met some beautiful
1:30:29
Speaker 7: women who are amazing artists. But it's just about the
1:30:32
Speaker 7: human being and it can be tough to to really
1:30:35
Speaker 7: build something if both of your schedules are super hectic.
1:30:38
Speaker 1: So I don't know.
1:30:39
Speaker 11: I don't want to ask a questions two about another
1:30:41
Speaker 11: record on Far Effected. Yeah, you said he was having
1:30:45
Speaker 11: a big conversation this week about tricken because you know,
1:30:46
Speaker 11: skip Bail is a legedly oh my god, put somebody
1:30:48
Speaker 11: one point five million and you say, paid for my
1:30:51
Speaker 11: mistakes and bevenes and diamonds too fifty fronted like you
1:30:54
Speaker 11: was my artist five g's just across the Atlantic.
1:30:57
Speaker 1: We sat in silence for almost two hours.
1:30:59
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a horrible quarter million dollars.
1:31:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, benses and diamonds.
1:31:03
Speaker 7: Well, listen, when I wrote that record, it was not
1:31:06
Speaker 7: for me. That was not a joint that I was
1:31:09
Speaker 7: originally gonna use for me. It was for somebody really
1:31:12
Speaker 7: famous and really rich. But I just love the way
1:31:14
Speaker 7: it sounded, and I was like, well, you know what,
1:31:16
Speaker 7: I love to speak in a world where I can
1:31:17
Speaker 7: actually afford that, why not let's manifest.
1:31:19
Speaker 11: That elucid dreams you talk about just significant other leaving
1:31:23
Speaker 11: things behind.
1:31:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a fun record with Masego after a breakup.
1:31:26
Speaker 1: Why do you think that the topic is taboo?
1:31:28
Speaker 7: I don't really consider it taboo necessarily, but I think
1:31:31
Speaker 7: it's just like it's just funny because for me, I
1:31:34
Speaker 7: was living with my ex for like a couple of years,
1:31:36
Speaker 7: so she just had like a closet filled with clothes
1:31:39
Speaker 7: at my crib and it had been like a year
1:31:41
Speaker 7: and a half since we were broken up. So we
1:31:43
Speaker 7: were in the studio talking about different things. The guitarist
1:31:46
Speaker 7: and producer on that song Freaky Rob, his girl left
1:31:50
Speaker 7: a flat screen at the house that he had to
1:31:53
Speaker 7: use to watch Netflix. He was like, man, when is
1:31:55
Speaker 7: she gonna take this flat screen? And you know, Masego
1:31:58
Speaker 7: also had a similar situation like that at his crib
1:32:00
Speaker 7: with the couch. So we were all just kind of
1:32:03
Speaker 7: using all of our different experiences putting it into a
1:32:05
Speaker 7: song and you know, just locking it in.
1:32:07
Speaker 1: It's different when it's closed.
1:32:08
Speaker 5: Yeah, did you clear you cleared out the class, Yeah.
1:32:10
Speaker 1: Definitely clears out the Yeah, clear out the closet.
1:32:12
Speaker 5: Did you move out of the apartment or you just
1:32:14
Speaker 5: cleared out the closing.
1:32:15
Speaker 1: Nah, I'm still at the crib, you know what I mean,
1:32:16
Speaker 1: still at the crib.
1:32:18
Speaker 7: You know, there's definitely a certain interior design choices I'm
1:32:20
Speaker 7: gonna switch up, so but it's.
1:32:23
Speaker 5: Like real reason yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
1:32:26
Speaker 10: The album is out right now. Make sure you pick
1:32:28
Speaker 10: it up.
1:32:28
Speaker 1: And we appreciate you for joining us, but thank you
1:32:30
Speaker 1: so much for having me. Man, it's a big opportunity.
1:32:32
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
1:32:33
Speaker 10: It's Leon Thomas. The album what is out now and
1:32:35
Speaker 10: it's the Breakfast Club. Good Morning Morning. Everybody's DJ n
1:32:38
Speaker 10: V just Larius Charlamage and the guy we are the
1:32:40
Speaker 10: Breakfast Club.
1:32:42
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1:32:44
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Speaker 11: once hell as the father of modern gynecology. He built
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Speaker 11: his legacy on exploiting enslaved black women with our anesthesia,
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Speaker 11: turning medical progress into a hardfying practice.
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Speaker 1: Let's listen.
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Speaker 5: I didn't know, I didn't know.
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Speaker 3: I didn't know.
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Speaker 16: Jay Marion Sims. He developed life saving medical techniques back
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Speaker 16: in the eighteen hundreds, but the way he did it wild.
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Speaker 16: He experimented on enslaved black women without anesthesia, like, Hey,
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Speaker 16: I'm about to cut you open, all right, but don't worry.
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Speaker 16: You'll be fine because you Blacks don't feel pain quite
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Speaker 16: like I did.
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Speaker 1: That's literally what he believed, and people let him get
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Speaker 1: away with it.
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Speaker 16: Three women have been documented Anarca, Lucy, and Betsy, and
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Speaker 16: these three women went through Hell. Anarca alone had over
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Speaker 16: thirty surgeries, thirty with no anesthesia, and Sims called it science.
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Speaker 16: And you know what he got for it, a statue
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Speaker 16: in Central Park. Like imagine going for a jog and
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Speaker 16: seeing a dude being honored for torturing black women. That
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Speaker 16: was a reality before twenty eighteen, because in twenty eighteen,
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Speaker 16: activist showed up up in bloody hospital gowns so that
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Speaker 16: you could visualize these atrocities and pretty much said, nah,
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Speaker 16: this statue's gotta go. And guess what they won. The
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Speaker 16: statue got moved to a cemetery, and quite honestly, that's
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Speaker 16: where it belongs, right beside Jay Marion Sims's dead ethics.
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Speaker 16: Now here's where it gets real. You think this is
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Speaker 16: just some old school nonsense, right, Nah, those same erasist
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Speaker 16: ideas are still here, lurking in hospitals like bad Wi Fi.
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Speaker 16: Studies show doctors today still think black women feel less pain.
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Speaker 16: That's why black women are three times more likely to
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Speaker 16: die from childbirth complications.
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Speaker 1: Three times.
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Speaker 16: Meanwhile, Karen over there getting extra talanol for a papercut.
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Speaker 1: Make it make sense?
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Speaker 9: So what do we do?
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Speaker 16: First, stop giving shady people statues, But more importantly, we
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Speaker 16: gotta listen when people say they're in pain or need help.
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Speaker 16: We need to believe them because if Anarca, Lucy and
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Speaker 16: Betsy could survive all that, the least we can do
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Speaker 16: is make sure that nobody else has to.
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Speaker 1: No, I didn't know, maybe you didn't either. I didn't know.
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