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297. For When You Don't Want To: Erin Azar Shares Helpful Hacks To Show Up & Move On Your Toughest Days · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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  Speaker 1: My run hack is I always joke like, oh, I
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  Speaker 1: listened to classical music and pretend I'm late for the ball,
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  Speaker 1: But sometimes cinematic music like that you would hear in
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  Speaker 1: a movie. And if you have a really good imagination,
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  Speaker 1: which is good for your brain, so always use your imagination.
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  Speaker 1: Those type of fun things are my favorite hacks.
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  Speaker 2: Hey everyone, Emily Abadi here. You are listening to episode
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  Speaker 2: two hundred and ninety seven of Hurdle, a wellness focused
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  Speaker 2: podcast where I talk to inspirational people about everything from
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  Speaker 2: their highest hies and toughest moments to essential tips on
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  Speaker 2: how to live a healthier, happier, more motivated life. We
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  Speaker 2: all go through our fair share of hurdles. My goal
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  Speaker 2: through these discussions is to empower you to better navigate
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  Speaker 2: yours and move with intention so that you can stride
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  Speaker 2: towards your own big potential and of course have some
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  Speaker 2: fun along the way. For today's conversation, I am bringing
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  Speaker 2: in one of the funniest people I know. Her name
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  Speaker 2: is Aaron Azar. She is known to many of you
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  Speaker 2: as I am missus space cadet over on social media.
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  Speaker 2: She's also the host of the podcast non Members Only,
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  Speaker 2: which you can find wherever you get this podcast, we
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  Speaker 2: are chatting all about how to show up when you
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  Speaker 2: don't want to.
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  Speaker 3: We've all been there, the.
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  Speaker 2: Days that you just don't feel like getting up and out,
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  Speaker 2: and so our conversation is circulating around what to do
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  Speaker 2: in these not so ideal circumstances, how to ensure that
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  Speaker 2: you get moving and at least give it a whirl,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's for five minutes or if that five minutes
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  Speaker 2: turns into something much longer. Aaron shares her tips for
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  Speaker 2: teaming up with an accountability partner. We talk about the
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  Speaker 2: benefit of listening to either a podcast or a music
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  Speaker 2: while you're on the move, plus how choosing certain clothing
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  Speaker 2: or shoes or gear in general can actually.
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  Speaker 3: Make all of the difference.
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  Speaker 2: Aaron and I reconnected over our mutual love for the
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  Speaker 2: new Rebox Float Zig. It's a new sneaker out from
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  Speaker 2: Rebok that's built for runners, whether you're new or a
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  Speaker 2: season professional. It offers really great energy return with their
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  Speaker 2: float right energy foam, and it's got what they're calling
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  Speaker 2: their Zig technology in the mid soul shape. I really
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  Speaker 2: love this shoe. I've been running in it myself. It's
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  Speaker 2: light weight and it's springing and really it's just designed
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  Speaker 2: to make running more fun. You know me, I like
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  Speaker 2: to do you a solid whenever I can. So I
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  Speaker 2: talk to the folks at Reebok and they are hooking
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  Speaker 2: it up. Rebok is offering hurdle listeners a really exclusive discount.
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  Speaker 2: No one else has this discount. The first fifty people
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  Speaker 2: to use the code hurdle too five, we'll receive twenty
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  Speaker 2: five percent off the new float Zig running shoes. Again,
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  Speaker 2: that code over at reebok dot com is Hurdle two five.
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  Speaker 2: It's capped at fifty redemption. So get on it and
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  Speaker 2: trust me, you won't regret it. With that, let's get
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  Speaker 2: to it. Let's get to hurdling.
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  Speaker 3: Today.
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  Speaker 2: I am catching up with the ever lovely Aaron Azar.
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  Speaker 2: You know and love her as one of your favorite
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  Speaker 2: individuals to watch all things running from on social media.
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  Speaker 2: She's also the host of the non members only podcast
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  Speaker 2: how are we doing?
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  Speaker 3: Aaron? I'm doing great. It's good to be back.
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  Speaker 2: It's good to have you back a little too long
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  Speaker 2: for my liking for you to come on Hurdle same.
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  Speaker 3: I know, I know, but we're here and I'm excited.
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  Speaker 3: I'm excited too.
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  Speaker 2: We're catching up today because you and I recently connected
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  Speaker 2: over the fact that we're both chipping in for an
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  Speaker 2: upcoming Rebok campaign celebrating their new float Zig sneaker, and
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  Speaker 2: the campaign is circling around the idea of running hacks,
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  Speaker 2: things that you do to get yourself up and moving
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  Speaker 2: when you don't necessarily want to, which I thought would
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  Speaker 2: be a good topic for us to jam about on
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  Speaker 2: the pod.
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  Speaker 3: I absolutely agree.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it's one of those things that I
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  Speaker 1: get asked all the time because I'm obviously nowhere near
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  Speaker 1: a professional runner, so the people that are usually the
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  Speaker 1: people that are coming to view my content are also
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  Speaker 1: not professional runners and maybe just starting out, and that's
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  Speaker 1: one of the things that everyone asks, is like what
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  Speaker 1: I just feel like I can't or I'm so busy,
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  Speaker 1: and like how do you get out the door?
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  Speaker 3: So it's something I answer all the time, I feel
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  Speaker 3: like all.
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  Speaker 2: The time, which is why an episode like this where
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  Speaker 2: you can just shoot them a link is actually idyllic.
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  Speaker 2: I'm here to help you, just like I'm here to
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  Speaker 2: help the people that are also in my dms, and
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  Speaker 2: I feel like it's appropriate to say that Although this
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  Speaker 2: conversation will circle around the concept of running. A lot
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  Speaker 2: of the takeaways, a lot of the tips that I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure are gonna come to fruition over the next forty
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  Speaker 2: five minutes or so, are really going to be applicable
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  Speaker 2: for anything, whether it's going out for a run or
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  Speaker 2: going to the gym, or maybe even just starting a
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  Speaker 2: project that you've been putting off and making the monster
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  Speaker 2: for no apparent reason. So many things and tips when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to getting something done really span across the board.
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  Speaker 3: That's so true.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do find that, Like I'll think of something
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  Speaker 1: as it applies to running, and then I'm like, actually
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  Speaker 1: this other thing that I'm like terrified to do, or
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  Speaker 1: that really easy thing like getting my license renewed that
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  Speaker 1: takes five minutes but I put off for months. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So I tend to apply that. That's such a good
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  Speaker 1: point to other things my life.
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  Speaker 2: As the ever lovely coach Bennett says, this is about running,
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  Speaker 2: This is not about running. It has nothing to do
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  Speaker 2: with running and everything to do with life. The first
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  Speaker 2: place that I want to start us off here is
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  Speaker 2: talking about what your relationship is with movement right now
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  Speaker 2: when you have to think about how many days you
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  Speaker 2: actually really look forward to getting up, getting out, hitting
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  Speaker 2: your run.
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  Speaker 3: Where do we sit?
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  Speaker 1: I would say that this past year because I started out,
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  Speaker 1: I did three marathons in three years, and that was
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  Speaker 1: like from nothing, you know, so starting from zero.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know why I did that, but I did.
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  Speaker 1: And this past year I totally took off no marathon,
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  Speaker 1: not even half marathon, and kind of just enjoyed, like
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  Speaker 1: popping into fun five k's really leaned into being a
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  Speaker 1: hype woman for all types of sports and people, and
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  Speaker 1: I really got to experiment and pay attention to how
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  Speaker 1: I felt about running when it didn't involve me following
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  Speaker 1: a plan, and there were some pluses and minuses to that.
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  Speaker 1: The minuses really involved no structure, and I learned that
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  Speaker 1: I need structure. The pluses though whereas there was no
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  Speaker 1: guilt or like this push pull should I go out?
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  Speaker 3: Should I?
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  Speaker 1: I don't feel like it, but you have to kind
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  Speaker 1: of thing, So I did have a lot of that freedom.
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  Speaker 3: I just feel like I could use some structure.
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  Speaker 1: So I did, very very recently as of this week,
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  Speaker 1: start to just follow like a very low key, very
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  Speaker 1: doable kind of training plan just to like build back
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  Speaker 1: up some miles. And I know that I also don't
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  Speaker 1: do well when it's too much, because I'm the type
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  Speaker 1: of person like all or nothing, and if it's a
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  Speaker 1: little too much, I'm like, okay, nothing, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, so I totally know. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like at this point, I would say once
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  Speaker 1: a week I'm like, oh, I'm so excited to run.
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what I can do today.
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  Speaker 1: And a lot of what I'm doing lately is that, like,
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  Speaker 1: let's just go out and see what happens.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, super magical. And I think that I can relate
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  Speaker 2: to you. It's like I know that I enjoy the
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  Speaker 2: act of running, and also taking a break from running
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  Speaker 2: at times has really served me.
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  Speaker 3: I also really feel you on the I need.
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  Speaker 2: Some sort of structure or instructions on what I should do.
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  Speaker 2: I too, just talk to a coach yesterday, have a
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  Speaker 2: plan that's going to start next week. I'm training for
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  Speaker 2: a ten k, which is nice and different from a marathon,
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  Speaker 2: and it brings spice and excitement back into a sport
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  Speaker 2: that I know I like to do, and that's really nice.
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  Speaker 2: So when it comes to the days where you're not
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  Speaker 2: necessarily feeling like getting up and out, how do you
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  Speaker 2: differentiate from okay, I'm going to push through this all
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  Speaker 2: feeling to the maybe this is one of those kind
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  Speaker 2: of days that I need to have some grace.
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  Speaker 3: I can really tell at this point.
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  Speaker 1: It's almost like I can kind of fast forward into
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  Speaker 1: the future and know how I will feel after the run.
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  Speaker 1: If it's a very mental thing, those are the days
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  Speaker 1: I need to run the most, and I happen to
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  Speaker 1: have really great runs when I do push through those
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  Speaker 1: things when it's physical almost all of the time where
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  Speaker 1: it's like a if I have like a fever even
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  Speaker 1: low grade or something like that, I will not go.
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  Speaker 1: And if I feel like I'm on the edge of
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  Speaker 1: an injury, I absolutely will. I'm not one of those
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  Speaker 1: people that's like, no, I have to get out there.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, I'll do like I'll do a little
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  Speaker 1: light workout and I just like, you know, get my
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  Speaker 1: blood pumping. Maybe just do like an arm workout for
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  Speaker 1: five minutes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I feel like at this point in time, I'm
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  Speaker 1: very good at like predicting that, But I think when
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  Speaker 1: I first started, I wasn't, and I used to push
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  Speaker 1: myself through and not feel great afterward.
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  Speaker 2: So what I'm hearing you say is you learn to
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  Speaker 2: really listen your body and how to do that internal audit.
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  Speaker 2: So on the days where it is just a mental
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  Speaker 2: thing and you know that, oh I don't feel like
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  Speaker 2: doing it, but also it's when you need it the most.
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  Speaker 2: Let's start to go through some strategies to get up
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  Speaker 2: and out there. The first thing that I always come
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  Speaker 2: to is this concept of.
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  Speaker 3: Just start right.
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  Speaker 2: I know that within the first ten minutes of a run,
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  Speaker 2: I can go from I really don't feel like doing
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  Speaker 2: this to Okay, it's not so bad, to man, I'm
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  Speaker 2: so happy that I did this.
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  Speaker 3: What about you?
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  Speaker 1: I agree. I don't even go as far to just start.
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  Speaker 1: I sometimes ease into it, and I tell myself that
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  Speaker 1: I even set my watch to walk instead of a run,
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  Speaker 1: and I just tell myself that any running is just overachieving.
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  Speaker 3: And nine times out of ten, I'll just start like
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  Speaker 3: a little jog.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe after those five minutes of walking, and I'm full
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  Speaker 1: out running, you know, and I do a full run
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  Speaker 1: and that feels great. And you know, there are those
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  Speaker 1: days where yeah, I just walk ten minutes, I'm going home,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, set the bar low.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, set the bar low, so that you're already exceeding
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  Speaker 2: your expectations. How can we make the process of starting easier.
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  Speaker 2: What are some things that remove decision fatigue or lower
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  Speaker 2: that barrier to entry that have worked for you.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's a big thing with me, because, like you
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  Speaker 1: mentioned before, how things can apply to your everyday life.
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  Speaker 3: That is one of them.
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  Speaker 1: Removing the friction of any task, even how we organize
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  Speaker 1: our mail at home, like there could be no friction.
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  Speaker 3: Because otherwise stuff will pile up.
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  Speaker 1: So for running, the socks that I wear for running,
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  Speaker 1: the sports spras that I wear for running, shorts, and
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  Speaker 1: everything that's specific to that in one spot, so I'm
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  Speaker 1: not like digging through all of my drawers and my clothes.
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  Speaker 1: Same with my shoes, like right now, I mean, granted
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  Speaker 1: we are promoting the floatsig, but the floatsig one is like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's all I'm wearing. And then I have
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  Speaker 1: the sneakers with my running clothes because if I if
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  Speaker 1: I need to look for one thing, I'm not going.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just that type of person. And same with my headphones,
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  Speaker 1: like they have to be hanging on the same hook
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  Speaker 1: because if I can't find my headphones, I also am
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  Speaker 1: not going.
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  Speaker 2: But it's so valuable that you learn this about yourself, right,
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  Speaker 2: It's removing that barrier to entry. And something that I
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  Speaker 2: found really helpful was making the time, if it's by monthly,
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  Speaker 2: once a quarter, once every six months, whatever it is,
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  Speaker 2: to go through the drawers where I keep these things,
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  Speaker 2: to make sure what I have in those drawers is
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  Speaker 2: stuff that I want to use. Sometimes I'll like take
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  Speaker 2: out our sports bra and it's like not the right
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  Speaker 2: sports braw or take a pair of leggings and I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I don't really want to wear these pair of leggings.
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  Speaker 2: But if I know that I can open a drawer
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  Speaker 2: and no matter what I reach for is going to
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  Speaker 2: be something that I'm like, oh, I'm done with this,
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  Speaker 2: then it makes it one less thing that I have
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  Speaker 2: to overthink about before I get out the door.
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  Speaker 1: That's such a good tip because I've I've fallen into
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  Speaker 1: that trap many times as well. I love that idea,
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  Speaker 1: just like having a regular increment of going through that
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  Speaker 1: and the other thing. This isn't really friction. This is
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  Speaker 1: more like of a mental preparation for me. But like
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  Speaker 1: if it's bad weather, I mean I don't want I'm
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  Speaker 1: not talking about like dangerous, you know, like lightning and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to run in that. But if it's
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  Speaker 3: like really.
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  Speaker 1: Cold and wind really angers me, I will make sure,
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  Speaker 1: Like if I have a run the next day, I'll
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  Speaker 1: look at the weather what it's gonna be and just
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  Speaker 1: mentally prepare for the suck. It's gonna be windy, just
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  Speaker 1: prepare for it. Just get over it. You're gonna run
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  Speaker 1: in the wind and you're gonna be angry, but it's fine,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to be caught off guard.
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  Speaker 2: The mental prep can meet such a big deal, though,
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  Speaker 2: and especially your idea of visualizing what you're about to
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  Speaker 2: get into. That visualization and even those experiences of those
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  Speaker 2: at the moment less than stellar runs have really.
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  Speaker 3: Paid off for me in the long haul.
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  Speaker 2: I think about the Boston Marathon that I ran in
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  Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, when it was pouring the whole time, and
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  Speaker 2: I had one epic training run that was in the
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  Speaker 2: rain that wasn't nearly as bad as the day of
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  Speaker 2: the marathon weather. But knowing that I was able to
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  Speaker 2: execute in the rain before was the thing I kept
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  Speaker 2: reminding myself of on the day of the event, when
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  Speaker 2: I was in the thick of the sock and I
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  Speaker 2: knew I said, you did this before, you can do
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  Speaker 2: it again. Yes, that's so that's like gold when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to mindset on race day. Absolutely just having that
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  Speaker 2: little nugget, you know, like, oh, I pushed through this before.
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  Speaker 2: Like I always talk about having a bad run bag,
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  Speaker 2: and so it's like, if I have a bad run,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna dwell on it, but I am going
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  Speaker 2: to put it in that bad run bag because I'll
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  Speaker 2: probably have to pull it out in the future and
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  Speaker 2: reflect on it and be like, you did that before,
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  Speaker 2: You're fine.
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  Speaker 3: You know. Wow, we love the bad run, right.
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  Speaker 1: I picture mine like very bedazzled, maybe with like a
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  Speaker 1: lightning bolt on it, and yeah it can.
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  Speaker 3: It can be as fancy as you want. It's the
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  Speaker 3: thing that helps you get through when things get hard.
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  Speaker 3: I absolutely love that.
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  Speaker 2: So we've talked about removing the barriers entry and getting
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  Speaker 2: rid of things that could result in decision fatigue. On
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  Speaker 2: the note of decision fatigue, we have the gear piece
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  Speaker 2: of the equation, but let's talk about the actual running
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  Speaker 2: piece of the equation. You talked about thriving when you
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  Speaker 2: have some sort of a schedule. Is that what you'd
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  Speaker 2: recommend to someone else who's having problems getting excited about
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  Speaker 2: their running routine.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it really depends on where you're at with
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  Speaker 1: your running, but I guess it depends on your personality
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  Speaker 1: type because some people might not like structure. But in
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  Speaker 1: my opinion, yeah, that's something I would suggest. And also
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  Speaker 1: just like having that I don't know, freedom or almost
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  Speaker 1: like excitement in terms of experimenting to be like, I
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  Speaker 1: am gonna have no expectations about this and let's just
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  Speaker 1: see what happens if I try to, you know, commit
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  Speaker 1: to this run that happens to be in my plan.
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  Speaker 1: Or maybe you're just like, let's see what happens if
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  Speaker 1: I just go out and I start running and see
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  Speaker 1: where I get tired. Like there's little Lately, I've been
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  Speaker 1: finding the best runs are when I don't put like
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  Speaker 1: a good or bad to it. I just am like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's interesting. You know, it's like you're a scientist. You're
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  Speaker 1: making little observations.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're taking it as information instead of judging yourself
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  Speaker 2: based on how something plays out, which is an opportunity
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  Speaker 2: for all of us. At the end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of the people listening to this podcast
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  Speaker 2: aren't professional athletes, So if you remember that when you're
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  Speaker 2: stepping out, Okay, maybe ninety eight percent, I'd say two
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  Speaker 2: percent of the people that listen to this show might
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  Speaker 2: be professional athletes, but the other ninety eight percent we
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  Speaker 2: aren't trying to necessarily do anything extraordinary, although the camp
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  Speaker 2: could come in that says that running in itself is
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  Speaker 2: pretty special. But knowing that you can then set your
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  Speaker 2: expectations in a place that is praising you for prioritizing
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  Speaker 2: the fact that you're getting up to move.
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  Speaker 3: Your body at all.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and if nothing else works, just focus on the
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  Speaker 1: good feeling that you get after a run.
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  Speaker 3: Just chase that, like it.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes that's enough to just like push through all of
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Like I mean, for me, the first mile is horrible,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: you know, and just getting out the door can be horrible.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: But knowing how I'm gonna feel afterward, like I'm probably
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: gonna be less stressed out, I'll probably have those good
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: brain chemicals whatever they are, and doorphins you know, flowing,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna make like a healthy choice in terms
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: of hydration and refueling. And it just like snowballs into
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: all this positivity so something like just knowing that is
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: enough to like push me out.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: I was literally having a conversation yesterday about how a
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: disruption and routine altogether can impact you in so many
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: different aspects of your life. So if you make the
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: good decision first thing in the morning, maybe that you're
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: gonna brush your teeth, and then that follows into another
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: good decision that's I'm gonna put on sunscreen, then it's like, Okay,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: now that I've done these two good things for myself,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: I'm also going to do the journaling that i want
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: to do. And then I'm like, okay, it's time to
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: move my body. And each of these small decisions really
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: have a down no effect into good for you habits, right,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: and they set the tone for you to continue on
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: to foster these habits as the day, the week, the month,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: the year goes on. Now, I think it's important to
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: note that just because sometimes you may fall by the
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: wayside with one habit doesn't mean you need to wait
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: for some like arbitrary day moment time to begin again.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Any second is an opportunity to begin again, but you
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: have to be the person that comes to that situation
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: with grace and understanding and compassion for yourself.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it goes back into that like January
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: first mentality, and like so many people quote unquote fall
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: off the bandwagon. I hate even saying that term because
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: it's like just saying that puts you in the mindset
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: of like, well, it's done, you know, but oh, January
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: first coming up, like winter technically, is when we're all
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: supposed to be kind of laying low almost like hibernating
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: and just being cozy and you know, not coming into
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: these like big epiphanies and starting these life changes.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, totally.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: So again, having that grace with yourself if you quote
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: unquote fallen off the bandwagon, a term that we don't
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: love to use here, but knowing that any day, any moment,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: any second is your opportunity to be like, you know what,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: I'm going to start over right now.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: And that's cool.
• 20:34
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  Speaker 2: to get up and out to start your running.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Let's talk a little bit about finding a friend.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I think that finding a friend, whether it is a
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: community in person or online or just one friend or
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: one digital friend, can make all the difference between you
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: getting up and having an accountability partner and you being like, em, I'm.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Just doing this alone. Oh that's so true.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I actually started yoga a while ago, and if my
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: sister says she's gonna go, I will never miss it
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: because it's like the only time we see each other.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: So that's such a good point that having someone like
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: an accountability buddy will get you out when you don't
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: feel like it.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Now, you live in Brooklyn, right, I do.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: So there's people everywhere and there's probably tons of like
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: run clubs, and you probably have friends down the street.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: My friends are the cows and the trees.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: So for me, it's very virtual is I would say
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: my community. That being said, though, I feel like whether
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: it's in person or virtual, you might not get the
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: same like instant accountability as like an in person buddy.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: But I feel like in terms of not feeling isolated
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: and on your own with things virtual like fantastic.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: It's gotten me through this part up to this point.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, And like knowing that there are certain people
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: that are gonna see whether you showed up or not,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: whether it be if you share your workout on Instagram
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: or if you're using something like Strava. I think subconsciously
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: all the time, like, oh, this run.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: When I go out and do it, it's gonna be
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: in the world.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: People are gonna know that I ran because it's on Strava,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: and then I'll be accountable to that. Right if I
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: don't show up for a week or so, I know
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: that there are gonna be people like thinking to themselves, what's.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Going on with Emily.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah she hurt herself, okay, which is also very comforting
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: as a single woman to be honest.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna be checked on. You know, people are
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: checking on me if I'm not showing up on Strava.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I love what you said though about the yoga example
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: with your sister. For me, for sure, I know that
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: I am much more likely to get up and out
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: if I'm meeting someone if I wasn't really feeling like
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: it and a girlfriend hits me and says, hey is
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: going to go for a run? It for if you
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: want to join, Like when I Emily choose to go
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: on a run at four pm. Normally, certainly not, but
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: for the social aspect, I could definitely be down.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you find it difficult to find someone that
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: runs like you?
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: So that's a really good question.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: And I bet this is a question that you get
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: in your DMS because I get it as well. I
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: think we are our worst enemy when it comes to
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: this situation. We build it up in our heads like
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to be fast enough to run with
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: this person or XYZ. And the reality is what I
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: find to work is setting a realistic expectation. I'm going
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: to be like, Hey, this is what I feel comfortable
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: running today.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: How does that sound to you?
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: And it's up to them to be honest about how
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: it sounds to them. I'm not trying to do anything extraordinary.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Ninety nine point nine percent of the time, I'm just
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: going out there to move my body and feel good
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: about the fact that I did it. So I am
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: definitely a person that like does the pre run disclaimer,
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: what do you do?
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I say, like, if someone does ask me to go
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: for a run, granted it is very very rare occasion. However,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: if they do, I say, sure, if you're okay with
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: like whatever I'm at at that point twelve and a
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: half minutes per mile around that, I'm totally fine.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: If they're like, oh, that's like so slow, it might actually,
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: you know, like hurt me. So like, you know, no
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: hard feelings.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: And if someone's like, hey, I'm running nine and a
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: half misses per mile, I'd probably say you find someone else.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: I love you, but it's not I won't even be
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: able to socialize because that's not you know, a comfortable
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: pace for me right now.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, and like not having yilt about that, like
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: that justn't me and that your value shifts at all,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: It just means that that's not the right pairing for
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: the day. I'm laughing because this makes me think about
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: a good friend of mine who asked me if I
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: wanted to run the New York Marathon with her this
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: fall quote unquote party and I said, well, like your
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: pace or mine, because like my party pace is like
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: a legit party, like all the hugs.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: We might do this like hel base.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: I don't even know, Like I don't even have a
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: time to throw at it. I'm literally like not looking
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: at my watch if you're telling me this is a
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: party pace marathon. But if your party base is actually
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: my pr pace, then that's not going to work for me.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: No, No, I totally get that. I absolutely yeah. Okay,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: So we have accountability buddies. Those are super helpful.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: We've talked about eliminating the decision fatigue, and we've talked
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: about just starting. But something else that can be really
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: epic when it comes to getting out the door and
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: beginning your run really has to do with your why.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: So let's talk a little bit about.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Knowing your why and how having an understanding for what
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: it is that motivates you can be such a big
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: game changer.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: Where do you sit with this?
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, you know, I'm like reflecting on this
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: as you were asking that question, and I realized My
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: why has changed so much since I started, and I
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: haven't even been running that long, so that says a lot.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I feel like some people get so stuck on a
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: why that they feel like they have to attach their
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: personality to it and that it can never change. For example,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: mine started because I had just had my third baby
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: and I was just feeling like absolute trash mentally and physically.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: So my why was just feel better.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Like I didn't know how to do it, but I
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: just wanted to feel better, and that was my.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Why for quite a while.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: And then at this point, my why is like so
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: specific because I recently learned that cardio in general is
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: not one of the number one preventors of dementia, and
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: especially as women, we have increased risk for Alzheimer's, especially
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: because of menopause. So sometimes when I'm like, oh, I
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: don't want to, I don't feel like, I'm like, do
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: you want Alzheimer's like I have? Like I'm like because
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: and you know what, like seeing my daddy has Parkinson's,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: which is another neurological factor that cardio and exercise in
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: general I think can prevent. So I mean, I'm forty now,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: so I feel like I need to be I need
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: to be looking at prevention of things.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: So that's like sometimes you know, that's that's all the
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: why I need.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I like learn about, you know, the health benefits and
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: it'll get me out the door. Last year I would
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: say all mental health. I'm like, I'm stressed, and it
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: makes me not stressed, and that's my why.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: So I think it's a very fluid thing depending on
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: what you're going through in life. Mine happens to be
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: a little dark about preventing neurological disorder in my future.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, thanks for sharing that.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: I think that when it comes to prevent it's not
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: something that a lot of people are thinking about first
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: and foremost. So to hear that this is what's top
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: of mind for you, it's probably stirring some thoughts in
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: the people that are listening to this, because you're right,
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: there is essentially nothing that could happen to us that
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: isn't lessened by the concept of moving.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Our body if I said that appropriately.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: So, basically, we know that cardiovascular activity has a myriad
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: of benefits and can play an important role in lessening
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: the percentage of coming down with a number of different
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: health issues.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Now, for me, my why. I mean, when I started,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: my why was simple.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: It was I wanted to lose weight, and running was
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: one of the easiest things for me to try to
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: start doing to do that. Now running looks entirely different
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: for me than it did ten twelve years ago, and
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: my why is rooted, like you in the mental health
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: side of things. I want to run because not only
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: do I know that it helps me destress, it's my
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: opportunity to give back to myself, but I also love
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: proving to myself day in and day out of what
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: I'm capable of. Even on the days, especially on the
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: days where I feel like I'm literally capable of nothing.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: I go out for a run and I finish the run,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, wow, you can do this hard thing,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: which means that you can do another hard thing, and
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: you can show up to the person that maybe at
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: one point or another assisted in you feeling like you
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: weren't capable and be like, yes, actually I am, and
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: I am good enough, and I don't need you to
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: tell me that.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: So that's why I run. I run because of that.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: It feels good for me to prove to myself day
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: in and day out that I can do something that's
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: pretty hard most of the time.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: And when you do get through that run and you're like,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe surprised at yourself or whatever that you
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: accomplished it, do you find that carrying that momentum like
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: into the next run helps you get out again?
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Totally?
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: This is like that combo about like one habit dominoes
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: into another good habit, and et cetera, et cetera. It's like,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: for me, one run that reminds me that I'm capable.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Then like the next day when I have to show
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: up and the runs a little different. Maybe it's like
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: a base run and then an interval run, and I
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: remember that I can do both.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: It's like, wow, I'm multi talented here. I can do
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: so many things.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: And I also think that it's going to this idea
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: that every run has a purpose, and sometimes the run's
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: purpose isn't ultimately what you thought it would be. Like
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: sometimes an interval run, for example, like the purpose of
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: the run is to work on getting faster, but what
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: ends up happening is maybe it doesn't go as you'd hoped,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: and you emerge from that run and you're like, I
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: learned that sometimes I need to give myself grace or
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: I was reminded today that like not everything's going to
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: go to plan and that's okay, right, So, like it
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: just takes a big person to be okay with understanding
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: that the result of a run may not be what
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: you intended, but that doesn't mean that that result isn't valuable.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, there's so many times speaking of like, you know,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: having motivation to get out the door. I've had things
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: like it might be a personal problem or with like
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: a person in my life, or maybe a creative roadblock
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: that I have and I just like, for the life
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: of me, cannot get through it. And I always come
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: to the same thing, and it's like, just put your
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: shoes on, go for a run, and I just space out,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: like I don't even try and think about it, but
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: it always I come to a solution almost every time,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: and it's like that's such a like a motivating thing
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: to push me out the doors, Like all right, I
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: got this issue, like let's go.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Gid y up, gid y up. Yeah.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: I'm curious what were you doing for yourself in moments
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: like that before you had your third child and you
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: were lacing up and running. How did you deal with
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: similar circumstances before this form of activity came into your life.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Oh gosh, unhealthily. Probably, yeah, I think I would try.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I would usually probably talk to my mom or my
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: sister maybe. But I'm also the type of person that
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I internalize a lot and don't want to share it
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: with other people until I figure it out myself. Obviously
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: I'm different now because I'll just blast anything on the
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Internet and I just don't I just don't care because
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: I know someone's going to relate to it. So yeah,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: I think I didn't have like a healthy coping mechanism,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: or I was on that like cycle of oh i'm stressed,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: let me have a glass of wine or let me
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: have a beer. It took me years to realize that
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: gave me an anxiety. Yeah, so that wasn't healthy. And
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: I think I like fell into this negative cycle of
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: giving my whole self to being a mom. And then
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: you're like, well, I just don't have time because you know,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: and you don't have to be a mom, like you
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: could have pets, you could have a really demanding job.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: It's like one of those things that you can be
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: consumed by and not realize it.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: And I think that's like the dangerous spot that I
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: was in. Yeah, totally.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: For the person that hears you say I don't have
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: enough time, I think it's kind of come up twice
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: at least. Now, what do you say to that person
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: when they bop in your DMS? Oh?
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's hard because I never want to
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: sound condescending because you know, people don't want to hear, well,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: what's something that you can cut.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Out of your day? You know what I mean?
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: And I'm also not someone that says we all have
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: the same twenty four hours, because we don't. We have
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: we all have twenty four hours, but they are absolutely
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: not the same. So I try and be very delicate
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: with that subject. For me, it is that it has
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: absolutely set my watch for a five minute walk. That's like,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: if I don't have time, then I'll start to feel
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: really good.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: As I'm running.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, well I'm going to push off you
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: know that thing that I actually don't need to do
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: that I told myself I have to do. And yeah,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: So I think a lot of it is either get
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: a little less sleep or take something out that really
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: doesn't need to be there. But if you can't do
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: any of those just do something like super small, like
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  Speaker 1: five ten minutes. Yeah, totally start small so that you
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: can build on it and find the enjoyment in that
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: small amount of time, and then maybe it'll feel more
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: accessible to add on from there. I also think it's
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: so important to understand two things.
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  Speaker 3: One that you're worthy of this time with yourself.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: I think so often, especially when we talk about women
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  Speaker 2: and the caretaking responsibility, we feel as though there are
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: so many other things that deserve our time and attention
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: and energy before we give any sort of energy or
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: attention to ourselves. When in actuality, it is to no
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: one's surprise that taking care of yourself can actually make
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: you be a better person for the other things that
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: you want to take care of, whether they are living
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: or not. And then the second thing to touch on
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: here is also what I taught a roommate years and
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: years ago, the concept of programming in leave time and
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: like the.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Buffer after the activity.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Right, So if you know that you're going to need
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: time to change your clothes before you leave and put
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: on your watch, okay, so make sure when you're thinking
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  Speaker 2: about I'm going to give five minutes to this that
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: it's actually probably going to be like I'm going to
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: give fifteen minutes to this total, and that way you
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: don't feel guilty when that five minutes quote unquote becomes
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: a little bit longer. So building in the time, making
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: an actual like quote unquote meeting with yourself so that
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: there is no guilt associated with it if you can
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: avoid it.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: That's such a good point about adding the buffers. And
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: you know, if you have to put it in your calendar.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I've done that, Like you said, a meeting with yourself.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: I've blocked time out because then I know I'll stick
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: with it. Also, if it's really bad, I had to
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: ask myself if I broke my leg right now, I
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: would make time to go to the hospital, So you know,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: not like it's as extreme as breaking your leg.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: But you can find time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can totally find time. And I love the
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: idea of putting it in your calendar for me because
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: I am like a morning exercise person. It's like, I
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: feel like I never need to book that time with myself.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: But if there is a day maybe.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: I'm admittedly not feeling the best after a few glasses
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: of wine, or I was out late the night before,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: et cetera.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Et cetera.
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  Speaker 2: So many reasons why you might wake up the next
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: day and be like blah, Then I really do that.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: I really do look at the calendar for the day
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: and say to myself, I know I'm not going to
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: have the emotional, mental, physical capacity to get moving before ten,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: When after ten might I be able to plug something
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: into my routine. And those are the days where that
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: kindness really comes in handy, Right, It's like, Okay, instead
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: of a I don't know X run I had on deck,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: today is going to be the day that I go
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: walk fifteen minutes around the block. And that's fine, right,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: because it only happens so often that I'm coming from
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: the place where I'm like, this just isn't going to
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: be the thing that makes me feel good.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, those fifteen minutes of walking
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: could feel magical when you really yeah, like after a
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: night of a few glasses of wide or whatever, you
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: stayed out too late or anything, Oh my gosh, fifteen
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: minute walk in the fresh air.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Is like, gosh, it's been That's been a really big
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: rule for me over the past year because I have
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: a gym in my building, so I don't necessarily always
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: leave if I'm going to work out, So for me,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: if I go to the gym inside, or I have
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: one of those, you know, not the best mornings. I
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: wake up and I say, before you sit down at
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: the desk, rule number one is like, at least walk
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: around the corner and get a coffee or get outside
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: and get some air. Regardless of what's happening with the weather.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: You can make it around the corner literally a three
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: minute walk to just get that on your skin, and
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: you will be so much better for it.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's such a good point. I'm so used to
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: being outside all the time because because of where we
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: live that when I travel and there's like a work trip,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: it's probably going to be in a city. And after
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: a day, I'm like, oh my gosh, why do I
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: feel like this, Like I'm so tired of so this,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: And now I'm like, oh, I just have to go outside.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: I'm not used to being outside of the city, Like
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: I don't even know what to do outside.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: And then something else that can be really helpful. We
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: talked about the benefit of community, whether it's in person
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: or digitally. Do you have any like motivating playlists or
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: podcasts that you listen to regularly that like kind of
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: help you garner the inspiration when you're just feeling a
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: little bit blah.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: You know, what I started doing recently is because I'm
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: somebody that is physically energized by music, and I think
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: my playlist on Spotify is like I think it's missus
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: space Cadet runs, so I will use music while I'm
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: running to give me energy. But what I started to
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: do is play my playlist like before I even get
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: ready and I'm in that wead like, oh my gosh,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: I just I don't feel like it all. It's so
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: easy to just hit play and the music will be
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: like it'll motivate me and give me the energy to
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: be like all right, here we go.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: We're doing this.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: So yeah, definitely music and I this is embarrassing, but
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: I don't care. I listen to my own podcast because I,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: for some reason cannot remember what we talked about, so
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: it's almost like I'm listening to somebody else, which I
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: probably should get that checked out.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: And the other thing is I don't have one right now.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: But sometimes you come across like a binge able podcast
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: that's like almost guilty Pleasure, you know, like one of
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: those storyline type podcasts, And so I'll tell myself, like,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: you can only listen to this if you are like
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: walking or running, and so that'll to motivate me because
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, I have to find out
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: what happened in like XYZ story, and that alone sometimes
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: just gets me out.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: That alone, I love.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: A story like podcast, like a podcast like series that
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: has like four or five episodes and you can like
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: really learn something over time. I know, I like jokingly
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: mentioned Oprah when we were talking about the opportunity to
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: like throw sneakers at people. But there was a series
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: called Making Oprah from NPR, and I remember that. I
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: was like one day driving somewhere, which I don't drive often,
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: so I forget where I was.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: I was going to Rhode Island.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: I'd rented a car, and I thought to myself, I
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: have no idea how Oprah became Oprah, and so like
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: I googled, and sure enough, there was an MPR series
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: called Making Oprah, and I learned her whole.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: Story over the course of five days.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: And I was listening to it in the car and
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: listening to it running, and it really does make the
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: miles go by and the time go by a lot faster.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: I know there's some people that don't listen to anything
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: and they're like, I need to focus on my form
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: and my cadence and you.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: Know all of that.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, I just want to get the run
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: over with a lot of the times. And this is
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: like my you know, like you mentioned before me time,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: like my like guilt free me time.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: I'm going to enjoy it, you know. Yeah, totally.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: I love your recommendation for playing the running playlist before
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: you get out there to really hype up. I feel like,
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: now there's a really good opportunity for like the pre
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: run mix. Yeah, I'm going to have to start compiling
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: a Spotify we can collaborate on that.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I love that idea.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, we have given the hurdlers so many good tips
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: here when it comes to getting out on the run.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Is there anything else that comes to mind before we
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: really wind down when we think about hacks for lacing
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: up and making things just a little bit easier.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: I focus on fun personally.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: I you know, my run hack is I always joke like, oh,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I listened to classical music and pretend I'm late for
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: the ball, but you don't necessarily like have to pretend
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: you're late for a ball. But sometimes cinematic music like
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: that you'd hear in a movie, and if you have
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: a really good imagination, which is good for your brain.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: So always use your imagination, and you can imagine like
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: a scenario like maybe you're like running through city blocks
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: and like someone's you know, the back guy is behind you,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: and like at every corner you have to like go
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: faster or something. It's really fun at the end of
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: a run when you can like you know, you have
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: to maybe go faster or those type of fun things
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: are my favorite hacks.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: Aaron is in a Marvel movie.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Every time she's out for a run, that's one hundred
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: percent what's going on inside of her mind. I do
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: use music to have some fun sometimes, and that I
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: have the same songs repeated on the playlist at different times,
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: and so that means that every I don't know, if
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: I'm going on a long run and a song comes
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: on every forty five minutes, it's like my like superhero
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: pump up song, which means like, okay, get out of
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: your head, run faster this song, and then I realize
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: that it feels easier again when you were kind of
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: talking yourself down before that came on.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: So there are a lot of different tricks and tips
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: you can use.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Another one that I love that has to do with
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: music is if I have to do the run inside
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: because of whether or timing or whatever, I treat it
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: like a power hour. So that means that every minute
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: on the minute, I'll change the song on my headphones
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: and it goes to a new song, and that makes
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: the time go a lot faster. I really like that,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: minus the drinking, of course, unless we're talking like an
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: electrolyte beverage.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: But yeah, no beer in the treadmill power hour. No disclaimer, disclaimer.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Oh my god. Well, so many great tips in here.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: I absolutely love this conversation, and I love the opportunity,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: as always to chat with you before I let you
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: go today, talk to me about what you're excited about
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: right now, what's on deck for Aaron in the months
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: to come.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: I'm excited for Boston Marathon weekend. I'll be there doing events,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: cheering people on. Like my favorite thing to do is
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: just like hype people up during their races. So I'm
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: excited for that and I'm excited that the weather is
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: warming up and I'm ramping up my miles. So yeah,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: I'm excited to take these run hacks and put them
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: to practice.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Well, I will check in with you and we'll make
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: sure to list some of the places you're going to
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: be Boston weekend in the show notes, so if you're
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: listening to this and you're going to be local, we
• 46:31
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• 46:34
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• 46:37
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• 46:37
  Speaker 3: How do they keep up with you? Erin on TikTok
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: and Instagram.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Honestly, it's easier to just type in Aaron asar Azar
• 46:46
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• 46:49
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• 46:50
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• 46:56
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• 47:01
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• 47:04
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• 47:05
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