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- 0:01Plural construction, the renowned journalistic program of political analysis and current in its twentieth
- 0:08season, with the leadership of Fernando Mauri and a team of prestigious analysts.
- 0:14Listen to him on radio train topic. Our President was an Argentine nation,
- 0:23Dr Rabriero Mirey good President Hello. To all there is no stabilization plan,
- 0:41not good, but the delay to change and here there is a problem of
- 0:44other or exchange rate. It is impossible to achieve the zero deficit in the
- 0:48twenty- four thousand. Ah well. It' s very little speck,
- 0:52Raya, there' s a lot of equator, but you' re not
- 0:56liberal. There were taxes how about the pro no, but it was known
- 1:00one more three hundred and sixty- five times and it gives me three sixty
- 1:06s can not if there is no video and there is not you that invited
- 1:08me to be fed your noodle cotuk. They want to know how the economy
- 1:11is going to grow, it' s going to go up like fart bus.
- 1:12But there is no good, because there is no comprehensive plan. But
- 1:18you should set the path. This is not a liberal government because it did
- 1:22not release the drug. Not because there is appreciation changed I there is appreciation
- 1:26changing. But well, freedom gra te how about my friends, very but
- 1:37very good afternoon, as I say every Wednesday we are averaging the week under
- 1:41plural construction, almost averaging the year, in the cutest month of the year.
- 1:45Why I' m a selfish guide good, because my birthday' s
- 1:48the end of the month, the twenty- seven, because it' s
- 1:49the father' s day. I' m thinking about him coming the new
- 1:53couple' s anniversary. I have the birthday number twenty- one point Fernando,
- 1:57twenty- one of my biggest cat of the two that I have left
- 2:00to turn twenty- one years old. I wish we were good. There
- 2:02' s some other little thing I' m forgetting, but good. Here
- 2:06we are in plural construction averaging the week, as I say, with a
- 2:09base law that is headed, will be approved with just, as well as
- 2:14in corum and with riots and tension in the Congress of Cino at this hour
- 2:19the four three protesters throw stones and you more moletop against the police. This
- 2:22occurs the silent and actual creation of the ustas evicted. Return the new clashes
- 2:28with the security forces. Now I' m going to put the nation more
- 2:30here at the top urgent attention. There I see it is represented by the
- 2:36news signals. Well, I live it machine in its time, with stones
- 2:38and stones recommended, with a retirement reform, markets in tense calm, in
- 2:44lugas to little. For now only ten pesos, which is in one thousand
- 2:47two hundred eighty- five, Serroller one thousand two ninety- five, watering
- 2:53country every epoque two points. It is in a thousand four hundred sale and
- 2:55five under a thousand five hundred at least a month thousand two hundred seventy-
- 3:00two and uneven and yet, with liqui it goes down a little bit and
- 3:02is situated above the free. It' s in a thousand three hundred one
- 3:07today in a little while. Let' s see if we can contact Marcelo
- 3:08cantel Mi. There were lessons in the European Union in different countries to form
- 3:13the European Parliament. We' ll be on that subject in a while,
- 3:16like I say we can use Marcelo. We have some audio in Alejandro Rosman
- 3:20' s artworks of together Gambian review of economic base word and we have it
- 3:25in the second half don Gustavo for r Wolfalson, who came telling us a
- 3:30lot about the electoral process in Mexico that won Claudia shis Van, the candidate
- 3:34for officialism, was sung. Let' s see what agenda we face today
- 3:38with some other topic in Infobae very hard speech of a senator Union for the
- 3:44homeland advantage of Miley the red crazy. There' s more to the exaggeration.
- 3:47I think you' re right. Disputed gennerists denounce that they were repressed
- 3:51by the police and government accepted more modifications to the basic law and is projected
- 3:57to be a tie in the vote we will see in that case is a
- 4:00bit discussed by the libraries. Don' t see, you' re going,
- 4:06see? Let' s see, let' s see, it'
- 4:13s a little bit of a discussion in the libraries. If you can tie
- 4:19someone up, but we' ll see if you can tie the same Dalen
- 4:26to act as temporary Vice President of the Senate Art, because Villarbol would be
- 4:30replacing my life, that is, voting twice. Library media. Says one
- 4:33half says the other. I' m looking for Gambina' s audio that
- 4:39fixes me maca Juan, which seems like I didn' t spend it while
- 4:43I' m talking to them, I' m telling you around 10:
- 4:4500 at night. He can' t do more or less. He'
- 4:46ll be voting in principle for this. The subject is also subject to amendments
- 4:54and disputes It ratifies what I vote in the first instance, but this follows
- 4:58the law not coming out tonight, but to return Members, because they are
- 5:00going to happen. We' re probably gonna see how much changes. We
- 5:04don' t know exactly how many to see. I can' t find
- 5:11Dondina' s audio. Now if I have the Ondina or this one I
- 5:15' m going to find to pass it to my friend Juan and now if
- 5:17we have time in the air, but while we put Rockman, I look
- 5:21for it with greater tranquility. Well, I follow the real- time vote
- 5:26count of those who support the project and who would oppose it. Well,
- 5:30we' ll see what else. The ruling party gave and proposed to remove
- 5:40the Argentine unions, the mail of the companies to privatize the public enterprises.
- 5:48Good to see what else the Pope posed with trade unionists. It' s
- 5:56been a flag of Argentine reineas. In the middle of the debate about the
- 6:00privatization of the company, what the nation says. Now let' s reflect
- 6:05some diaries, while we wait five minutes to put wing before him. In
- 6:10principle, if we are treated with moratoria privatizations imposed the backlash of the latest
- 6:15changes accepted by the government to avoid a defeat and to save two axes of
- 6:19tension in front of Congress based on the trimogen is the cold publicity the advance
- 6:21of the demonstrators who reacted with pibrazos base law. A senator, i e
- 6:26I referred to Infobae, said that Miley is mentally ill. Well, look
- 6:30who' s crazy is as much as that, and he took care of
- 6:32a project to make the presidents psychologically fit, something that Sergio Masa put up
- 6:36in the debate. I remember with Millay seriously we' re going to give
- 6:41him delegated powers. Martin Ready attacked Milay and wide than another against the base
- 6:44law, as was anticipated Silvio Coru accused of selling his vote, denounced Senator
- 6:47Crixel for bribes and the case touched the son. The whole cause is falling
- 6:54into good Millay and could delay his Buliitalia. This abbot who voted in favor
- 7:00of the ribase became emphatic in the Senate a radicalips senator and there he poses
- 7:06it also precisely in the nation and there has been a key tie to understand
- 7:11what aspects the absence of my law may have in a definition vote- to
- 7:14- vote. There will be no cobos in the one hundred and twenty-
- 7:15five. It will be in favor of this government to begin basic law,
- 7:21says clarín privates decisions and retirements. The changes in the last few moments that
- 7:24the government went up to save the project are increasing the attention outside Congress,
- 7:29protesters will go bombs, Molotov and the police reported migrant determinación. A key
- 7:31senator talks about radical review. He confirmed that he will vote in favor of
- 7:36the churches and de- ampatoría of Villarruel extreme parity. Strong criticism used the
- 7:40government. It' s just that the ex- abrupt of a senator mentions
- 7:44it more recently and the encouraging message of villain Milay, who was on a
- 7:46forum of him is a speaker. It' s the President. They'
- 7:48re gonna have to get me out of here dead to break the Rosada'
- 7:54s fiscal deed. He said more clowning gesture of Pope Francis, we already
- 7:57commented on it, he received trade unionists and took a photo with the airline
- 8:01flag. What happens to the gift of good Argentine actions and good Argentines as
- 8:05they advance debate in Congress. Well, it happens he' s a little
- 8:09calm and expectant. Well, good to see that others you see at this
- 8:16time do not receive new notifications. So the government would pass a little bit
- 8:22well the sense of or the government, there the police, in this case,
- 8:26to avoid a picket in the South, in this case, not with
- 8:30this issue of fake real picketers, to prevent land from being taken in the
- 8:35South. In that sense, it was good news that ran yesterday. I
- 8:41get a letter p notification from the site, very good news site Milay with
- 8:46Cautela Miley. Follow the League debate Sundays from Olivos, before leaving ge seven.
- 8:50Earlier, as the Senate voted, the President would follow the first leg
- 8:54of the debate from the Olivos residence. His agenda continued at the exhibition of
- 8:58the Capto Institute and the Liberté de Progreso Foundation before embarking on his flight to
- 9:03Europe. Well, one of these has already been. He' s more
- 9:05than speaking presidents in our intergalactic leader. So this one he walks everywhere and
- 9:11travels life, ha, travels when it' s a meeting like I said
- 9:16seven, it' s interesting. Others, no, good of terror,
- 9:18will not receive any awards from the world right and does not speak very well
- 9:22of the figure of him. No, Don Marcelo, I sang my friend,
- 9:26good afternoon, how' s it going, how' s Fernando doing?
- 9:28How' s it going, thank you very well for taking care of
- 9:31us. How do you like the trips I think in six months you'
- 9:33re doing, you' ve traveled almost a month, this of which seven.
- 9:37Obviously it' s interesting or the Ukraine issue, but it' s
- 9:39also gone. Let' s not take into account that perhaps a wonderful middle
- 9:43- class, rementably mid- class rating takes care of us, but yes,
- 9:48evidently he likes to walk and today he said no. He doesn'
- 9:50t like to travel it true is that he made absolutely personal trips, two
- 10:00months of economic crisis that is not understood to hear the digest seven reasonable companies,
- 10:07especially right now. I want to go to receive an award from a
- 10:11party that is against his ideas of Andalusia with Madrid, with the box tip,
- 10:16which does throw me the data of has a lot of political clarity.
- 10:22It doesn' t have and ours is Chancellor who doesn' t say it
- 10:26' s on the looserope, because maybe it' s not from these days,
- 10:28but I think it' s already played. For example, that journey
- 10:30you mention to which seven do not go, there is no Church. As
- 10:33a member of a committee of deputies, the libertarian deputy pardons the libertarian deputy
- 10:39of the pro Iglesias, but he will not stand. Not weird, I
- 10:43don' t understand. I had read today that I was traveling. I
- 10:52have usually gone to Switzerland to the summit about the virge Levski Caple turned it
- 10:58off a little bit and from what I was reading. For this and more
- 11:07up- to- date, yes, claviame had not decoupled her power the
- 11:13free allowed. No, she wasn' t communed, not valge seven.
- 11:16Yes, I think he' s going to be on a trip but not
- 11:18on the seven, for example Mondino, for example, of the national information
- 11:22of an end of time. But, for me, well let' s
- 11:26talk about yours, my friend to see. To what extent should we be
- 11:28concerned about the outcome of the European Parliament elections? With the growth of the
- 11:35far- right patchism, the center continues to balance, the social democracy continues
- 11:41to retreat. To what extent is the result worrying, to what extent can
- 11:45an alliance between the centre and the social democracy be contained. Let' s
- 11:52learn the estate in principle, or what you' re seeing there is that
- 11:58the political center is still strong. Of these jurgos there is most of a
- 12:05far right center, the social- democracy left center, no place to say
- 12:13the psychologists and others those united political families are a wall against the other right.
- 12:20The fact that the other right wing has grown and what these numbers are
- 12:24indicating is important in Parliament, which I have just pointed out to you,
- 12:28but in particular that what matters is who are the rulers, who are not
- 12:33the ones in Parliament, but are these parties. The elections, these are
- 12:3727 elections that are made in each country to fill seven hundred and twenty seats
- 12:46that the Europeans care half the mind say there is not a great interest in
- 12:50Europe on the over vote very local. You don' t vote for the
- 12:56local, you vote for what you agree. What happens is that they are
- 12:58important before to measure what happens to people. There you see something that really
- 13:03scares you, a little bit of fear, say after the summit in memory
- 13:09of that framework of omardy, the eighty adversary recently very few hours ago that
- 13:16was there all from the Atlantic era of Bailen down, arguing that that memory
- 13:26of Nazism has another inglension, even by the attack of Putin Ukraine. A
- 13:35The comparison between Putili and Hitle is very strong in Normandy and the memory of
- 13:41the Nazi barbarism and within two days German elections are held puts in second place
- 13:45an openly Nazi party. They give you few scosiness and, moreover, that
- 13:54right hand even though in some cases it has some washing with the bandida,
- 14:01like that of peridismo. The same case of fascist Italy is good, now
- 14:05with Joyameloni, who are formations that turned from the width of this to the
- 14:11center. In both cases, they still have that past, let' s
- 14:18say, and you can divide the analysis into two parts. All Central Europe
- 14:22is very, very important of Central Europe, especially the two great founders of
- 14:28what I am, the European Union, of France of Germany, voted from
- 14:33a very strong resentment, very sharp in growing electorates against how things are being
- 14:41handled, the central economic question also basically the Europeans perceive that they live badly,
- 14:48that they share badly and that they have fewer opportunities in Eastern Europe,
- 14:54on the other hand, almost in massive gender against, of course, the
- 15:03pro- Russians, because one fact to add is that the ultra- European
- 15:09right has been by Russian and although it then diminished in the case of Italy,
- 15:16quite clearly, great proputinist, good on the side of Eastern Europe.
- 15:22Let' s say all that necklace of nations that had been the Warsaw Poetic
- 15:26Pact. There is a very important vote against it in Hungary, in Poland,
- 15:33against the urban Victor against the Piz Ni Party in general, because more
- 15:39is being adopted towards the center, because after living what Putin is doing in
- 15:45Ukraine, it is understood that this whole political and social sector has a great
- 15:52resentment against Russia. In this case, yes, they are totally more worrying.
- 16:00It' s the short term. It' s France' s.
- 16:02I say to see how you interpret. It looked almost like a non-
- 16:07beginner mistake or not. So much so, I don' t think it
- 16:08' s so Macron' s, to call elections so quickly or this one
- 16:18that he americally bets knowing a defeat to wear out the center- right opposition
- 16:22cohabiting until the end of his presidency. How you saw the surprise move,
- 16:23so surprising after being similar, broken Macron in France is well thought out.
- 16:29I believe the second thing that I think Macron, who already at the time,
- 16:34when he left the DAN government, when he was the Minister of Economics,
- 16:40showed a tendence this kind of jo, previously showed a kind of indual
- 16:47tendency. It seems to him that what he' s doing, which I
- 16:51don' t know if it' s a good strategy, is precisely going
- 16:56to be an election that can eventually win the right routa the telism, with
- 17:03this boy twenty- eight years that you could be Prime Minister one, because
- 17:08they take over the government. Let' s say a very complicated cohabitation like
- 17:11the one you come to with socialism at some point yachidas let' s remember
- 17:17that it did the same thing and went wrong and then, well, it
- 17:19went on socialism. Let' s say concretely and in this case I believe
- 17:25that what you are looking for is precisely what querism is. You pointed out
- 17:30that they are the ones who are commissioned and wear out government management to wait
- 17:33to win in the presidential elections. Then there' s a lot of risk
- 17:41of concrete, we don' t know what it holds with the populist party.
- 17:45The end of the day, this new right, which is shaped,
- 17:53may follow We have a picture similar to Melon' s in Italy, which
- 17:59frankly I have not done so badly. But basically in France people are voting
- 18:03against a right- wing president who is quite proud and who people perceive does
- 18:11not take us into account. You defined macron as right- wing, center
- 18:18- level presidents. For example, I ask the center right. I think
- 18:22the center in cinema times inside left or center right. There is a pure
- 18:29center racron is the center center right, as Pedro Sánchez is center left,
- 18:40which is more or less. The same is true of the line that we
- 18:45were at the centre of defining these two currents, which are the most powerful
- 18:49within the European Union. Two forms of capitalism. Let' s say frankly,
- 18:59sociedemocracy is an invention of the German empire to oppose the popular uprisings of
- 19:07the commune of Paris. That is, they are forms of capitalism. But
- 19:15there' s no centre that' s not anywhere or the other. It
- 19:19' s an impossible extraction to reach. That well, well and outside Europe,
- 19:25on time from France, that there is another issue. Well, I
- 19:29don' t know there' s a new feedback from the Middle East conflict
- 19:36that we should take care of for war. They' re in the two
- 19:37wars. They are on a tremendously important agenda that this that we have generates
- 19:47a very strong doubt forward with the tea of Ukraine, because there has been
- 19:52a significant normal day jump with normal day vaide my company are tactically posing kuten
- 20:00that if you want to advance in the war, well, they will advance.
- 20:03The war is more likely to allow them to give at any cost,
- 20:07that is, to allow Ukraine to shoot within Russian territory. They have just
- 20:12done it even five hundred kilometers from the border, being the plane a very
- 20:18sophisticated zu from Russia and asking Cotín to be careful where he wants to go,
- 20:29why he will find what western. Well, now, starting with these
- 20:33elections, you have to see why really people in many countries of the Ukrainian
- 20:37plain are not interested. They do not realize the existential significance that Ukraine has
- 20:44for Europe, of which they do realize those who live closest to Russia.
- 20:51Then, the Middle East war is pulling in a scandalous way, to a
- 20:57large extent, as he denounced, because of the needs also detailed to be
- 21:03able to stay in power. It is a war that has tremendous personal pollution
- 21:07and this is what explains why it has been so badly carried away has led
- 21:14to the conflict in the case of the last four rescued, which takes about
- 21:23seven seventeen over eight months and coins, because I had returned it in the
- 21:30ninth month and it never continues to function with less power, but I have
- 21:36continued to function. The most important army in the region has been almost eight
- 21:41months and somewhat unable to defeat a reichor group of supposedly fifty- zero men.
- 21:51They' re failures that, as you say, I totally agreed with
- 21:56the Dopoamerican Center. They have made the war not work well because dancing vaide
- 22:02Taneo has a huge personal problem and this has allowed him to survive politically and,
- 22:08moreover, was associated with a rocking of fundamentalist parties who publicly cry out
- 22:17without any reservations for ethnic cleansing. Let us say with the expulsion of the
- 22:25two million and coins of Palestinian inhabitants from the garza france and, moreover,
- 22:30with the same psychordania intentions. They are very, very dangerous people, very
- 22:34fanatical, but they are very important motis ministers in the national vender economy.
- 22:42Others or fools who have raised, threw themselves into a baton and finally have
- 22:45people who would not manage to join a commission, a football team, and
- 22:52are now in a cabinet of a very powerful country. As clear irreel Marces,
- 22:57I like it as always, thank you very much. He hugs,
- 23:00hugs big Marcelo Cantelmi reporting on his analysis in international politics. As always,
- 23:06I say we have less than we would like after having left Alberto Gustor Roviter
- 23:10aside as a columnist, Marcelo than before the mic but well we have it
- 23:14very well. Let' s listen to Alejandro Roffman if there' s time
- 23:18July Ambine, if we didn' t leave before, Gustavos Farly wolf so
- 23:21for the Zom, we hear to see Juan, we listen to rock Manuo,
- 23:23we always send us two audios and we hit Ambina and when you'
- 23:29re Parrally Wolvenson, we see Isael, if we put so much good,
- 23:33let' s start with rock Manu one ahead Hello how we are. Alejandro
- 23:34Roffan in his Guarri clar weekly column in the first prspiro refers to a very
- 23:41hot topic. It has to do with us that perhaps directly with the conjuncture,
- 23:45with the economic and social trends, which are the ones that I usually
- 23:51mention to you, and one with a global profile the management of the current
- 23:56government in relation to the relations between the sochida and the state. In the
- 24:00President' s vision, the State is a criminal organization. He called it
- 24:07that last year and added in his interview with a television station in the United
- 24:14States last week that for him the state is a robbery that then he hates
- 24:22the textual state it is as if there was a personality that was in name
- 24:30or the title of the state, with which there is a harsh ruthless confrontation
- 24:36because he considers it a group outside the law, first, and second,
- 24:41he tries to intervene in the distribution of economic resources among the inhabitants of a
- 24:49country and, therefore, must be definitely relegated to zero and, moreover,
- 24:56hated. This is a very evident sign of the President' s profile,
- 25:04the relationship between his objectives and those of what they share with us and which
- 25:10then poses a relationship of hatred, not enmity or theoretical questioning or empirical epirit,
- 25:17directly hatred. Hate leads to solutions that may be calambitious, but it
- 25:23affects them and sometimes even says it smiling. So it means the State in
- 25:32Argentina that is an organization that must be destroyed, but destroyed from within.
- 25:38In fact, he says that he is like a touch, that is,
- 25:41a spy, an external agent who smuggles into the functioning of the state and
- 25:49corrodes it from within, eliminates it, destroying it from within. That image
- 25:56is terrible for me to think of as a civilized man. I understand that
- 26:03one may be distinguishing with forms of state management, but never think of the
- 26:11state as a cursed agent to make disappear. What if there were police justice,
- 26:17for example, they wanted to rape my daughter, my wife. I
- 26:23don' t have to go and apply myself because he' s an armed
- 26:29agent of the state who sees the crime being joked about, that the stadium
- 26:32wants to destroy it. There is no one to enforce a minimum ethical mandate,
- 26:36which is that sexual intercourse must be consensual, not imposed by violence and,
- 26:41of course, after the rape occurred, no one sanctions because justice does
- 26:45not exist. The State that it maintains, the judicial system, with adequate
- 26:52legislation and public officials, tax judges, is destroyed in its conception, has
- 26:57to disappear. This vision, which could be admitted in a theoretical writing,
- 27:04acquires remarkable and extreme gravity in reality. If it extends to the President of
- 27:11the Nation, the first president, the head of the country in terms of
- 27:18execution of concrete actions, the role of only destroyer of the State. It
- 27:26cannot be given extraordinary powers, as I said in the draft law that comes
- 27:32under revision from deputies cannot be conceived in that regard. You remember the unchecked
- 27:40capacity, not filtered by the public debate and the congressional sanction, which represents
- 27:47all the inhabitants of the country. He can do and undo as he pleases,
- 27:52without any system that limits him, that reminds him of a border that
- 28:00cannot be transgressed. That is why the role of the three organs of the
- 28:08State that compensate each other, balance each other and guarantee the life, survival
- 28:15and resources of each citizen is so important. If the session of extraordinary powers
- 28:23were to be approved for the President, it would be extremely dangerous with his
- 28:33vision that how a civilized society functioned in the midst of total anarchy if a
- 28:37model such as himself were to be put forward. I am simply showing the
- 28:41high degree of legal uncertainty involved in investing in Argentina. If there is no
- 28:45state, it guarantees to the external investor any of the demands that it raises
- 28:52to anyone, because there is no one who controls or regulates. They say
- 28:56I don' t believe the law of the jungle. The jungle has easy
- 29:00laws, such as the strongest, it imposes itself on the weakest to feed
- 29:04itself, to murder with impunity, in the case of the rape that I
- 29:08preprinchip I have not made a transgression to the relations between human beings that imprints
- 29:15to the satisfaction of the rapist, not because he has to retaliate that act
- 29:22in order to survive. Let us hope then that there will be respect for
- 29:27the legislation regulating the State is that its sacred function will be preserved. Today
- 29:33marks six months since the Millay Government began and there are two issues that contrast,
- 29:38by one, the maintenance of the support of its voters, the first
- 29:44or second round, a little more, a little less. But there is
- 29:47a passive consensus there, not necessarily organized in popular social movement, even encouraged
- 29:52by the main media, obviously consistent with the liberal right- wing diagnostic approach
- 30:00that pushes Javier Miley. Some criticism may even be allowed because it is misspoken
- 30:04or rude as the nation says in an editorial analysis of Joaquín Morales alone this
- 30:10past Sunday, but you are going to give some criticism of the general approach
- 30:14of regressive restructuring of the economy, of the state, of Argentine society,
- 30:18the main media, its flattery, that is, the clarín nation, its
- 30:22television media and the push they have in networks. All this is aimed at
- 30:26achieving consensus, as there is a legality to support that profound transformation. It
- 30:32is the so- called Basses law, a remedy that replicates the ideas of
- 30:36Juan Bautista al Verdi, which are contained in Argentina' s first constitutional project,
- 30:41Alberdi' s Liberal Constitution, that is what pushes this reduced milad legislative
- 30:45project from that proposed in January, but which is even pointing out that it
- 30:48has three zero more reforms to carry forward, even that it will not reach
- 30:52it with four years to push the project what it is saying not only what
- 30:56it wants to renew this four- year cycle with another. And that'
- 30:57s why it' s a party weapon and everything is put in the perspective
- 31:03of making the dream of an ultra- liberal, ultra- right Argentina come
- 31:04true. That is why it is holding this weekend' s European elections in
- 31:10the sense of parliamentary progress in the European Parliament, which has very little Parliament.
- 31:15There is very little he can decide, but it shows a favourable social
- 31:18climate for the ultra- right in Europe and Argentina is trying to make progress
- 31:25in this area. We would say that the main thing about the Millay Government
- 31:27is a permanent political and ideological campaign to agree that the road is this,
- 31:32even if it did not fulfill its dream of ending the mandate or achieving another
- 31:37mandate. Therefore, eight years submission on Earth would be fulfilled because it has
- 31:41generated a shock in the debate of political and ideological ideas favorable to the reactionary
- 31:47conceptions of the ultra- right, not only for Argentina, but for the
- 31:51region and for the world. Of course this contrasts, he said at the
- 31:55beginning with the reality of macroeconomic data. If you analyze the official data that
- 32:00the INDEC is offering regularly, well what is growing. This is unemployment,
- 32:04and unemployment, which is now one digit in the short term, can transform
- 32:08into double- digit unemployment. Javier Miray' s second semester is beginning,
- 32:14and there is no real concrete data that the Argentine economy is reversing the recession.
- 32:20True, the last indicator of the manufacturing industry in April or construction shows
- 32:22a weak growth of one percent over the previous month. But the data for
- 32:30the same month of the previous year are grandiloquent, showing that the industry falls
- 32:36more than fifteen percent, that the construction grows more than thirty percent. And,
- 32:38therefore, reversing that deteriorating decline situation of the construction industry will be very
- 32:43difficult to reverse. There is no sector of the economy that is showing recovery,
- 32:47not to mention the popular income, wages, pensions, social benefits that
- 32:52show a deterioration of the living condition of the majority of the population. That
- 32:55is why we point out the contrast between the ideological and political campaign of the
- 33:00President of Villay, who leads him to travel around the world so that his
- 33:04global impact rebounds even inside Argentina, maintains levels of political consensus, ideological in
- 33:10general passive. There is not so far a mobilization or organized around the ideology
- 33:16supported by Javier Miley, and that is the concern of the other side and
- 33:21suffering the consequences of the adjustment and regressive restructuring of the Argentine economy, the
- 33:24level of mobilization thirteen, to the point that this next 12th of June,
- 33:29when the basic law is discussed in the Senate, there will be a gigantic
- 33:34mobilization in front of Congress, showing that politics is not only the institutions,
- 33:37but that politics is also the street, the popular organization, the social organization,
- 33:42the organized demand of those affected by this regressive restructuring of the economy,
- 33:45of the State of society. That is why politics passes through different lanes and
- 33:49while my law continues to ideologically dispute the consensus of society from the organization and
- 33:54struggle, it is building a new horizon of a project that is not yet
- 33:59constituted as a political internal, but that is the objective of this day in
- 34:04the field of the Institute for the Promotion of the Argentine beef in general,
- 34:08Villegas, Province of Buenos Aires. How to measure the quality of meat by
- 34:12field. Wednesday, July 3. Establishments in Eduardo, Route thirty- three
- 34:16kilometer four hundred twenty, free admission of limited quotas. Collaborate Brafford Association Argentina.
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- 34:29ar or at eleven forty- four, fifteen eighty- one, eighty-
- 34:32nine. We remind you that you can find us on social networks, on
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- 34:49Fermen de fermouriy two thousand twenty- two and as always where we upload
- 34:53audios from the program analysis of specialist columnists. Our website runs triplews. Really
- 35:00this blogspot com ar very well, very well here we are on the protest
- 35:09screens turned a car that teaches that there is a three- talena cell phone.
- 35:14The radio looked good, it' s if the view fails. I
- 35:17' m here with the compu this is the most nation right now alive in
- 35:22front of Congress. I could put any other news and we' ll be
- 35:27at the same thing in these twenty- one degrees. That' s never
- 35:28good for the TV show. This violence that no one wants, even though
- 35:32it' s working for them. Some to the left, some as they
- 35:35manifest, unfortunately, if we will sigmatize them. But that' s right,
- 35:38as good as we' re expecting friend Gustavo Ferrari Wolkfison. Let'
- 35:42s hope he doesn' t miss it. Tomorrow we close the week with
- 35:52Aqul, we will quinsate a week with or with Camino Discurnia, our columnist
- 35:57of economic matter, another of the looks that we have in this pro that
- 36:00for something it is entitled for twenty years in plural and already for next week.
- 36:04Scheduled as a short work week, remember that in principle there are classes
- 36:08and work on top, as it is not our case, but in general
- 36:10Tuesday and Wednesday nothing more. What' s going to happen on the radio
- 36:14Thursday? Juan will be there on Thursday. I don' t think I
- 36:16see him, don We' ll see well, perhaps lover, but they
- 36:19' ve recorded it for half an hour. We relaxed, we' ll
- 36:20see, but Tuesday was always the one we were with and that' s
- 36:22what I was focused on. We start the week with political analysis of the
- 36:24good with our political consultant friend and with luista Carlos Para and with an economic
- 36:29look with the interview the economist Orlando Ferreres. All right, everybody takes him
- 36:37to the base. The protesters have turned a car around and learn it fire
- 36:42says at this hour as I told them the nation more I will see if
- 36:46I catch the screen of TN a minute. Give me a minute to see
- 36:53if a car sets on fire in session. Ask Juan live these radio edges
- 36:58of the sub if I how the signal to see we test how TN is
- 37:00heard. For example, Juan seems to see you make a gesture from there.
- 37:04I keep seeing you I put TN. Punch TN to watch a second
- 37:07live. Well, I don' t know why you don' t listen.
- 37:19You can' t hear anything. What I used to take is why
- 37:22nesis how clear this nation' s good. No good can be heard either.
- 37:30I was taking the TV signals. I don' t know why you
- 37:32' re listening to us It doesn' t matter. TN' s in
- 37:34it. Obviously urgent. The Senate of Tartarala and Bass live senate in session.
- 37:38Fire chain car three. I used to call them well. I would
- 37:42see well then chain three, which is this radio station Cordobesa. I'
- 37:46m still waiting for him. I liked mejoral and Wolvenson. No problem.
- 37:50Let me know Juan Este so he doesn' t look so much at the
- 37:52screen with a whatsapp. If he gets in there, there' ll have
- 37:58been some new robbery in quotation marks. Today, as we stand with the
- 38:00faith of the great Tocaputo on the record, seventy per cent of us will
- 38:06be forced to live in the Parliamentarians, the forces of heaven, the forces
- 38:08of Milega forty- fifty per cent, will take out the seventy- seventies
- 38:13something and get him the point of view on how to, how to spare
- 38:16the Ministers, not for the President. Well, until this robbery, which
- 38:20didn' t go to a second home, wasn' t the private home
- 38:22of Petobelo Minist. Well, this is a great king net internism, that
- 38:25there' s the issue of intelligence services stuck between the government and how they
- 38:30dump folders between them. While Petri another who acted over the Minister of Defense,
- 38:35who believes this tom Crais making top gun thirty years ago, this one
- 38:38who did not buy rosé salmon. I don' t know how many luxuries
- 38:45for the military and so on, for the Ministry of Defense. Meanwhile,
- 38:49the first reaction was no. But this comes from a request for a purchase
- 38:52made by the previous management of the abominable and abominable Alberto Fernández. This government
- 38:58didn' t buy it. Not well, then nothing. Official information is
- 39:04also circulating, saying that the real wage had risen caputo. I say to
- 39:07you first, because it was a complicated government that was 16 points doubling inflation
- 39:13blah. It was a fay news, it was a mistaken fact. Obviously,
- 39:16the Ministry of Labour, the Ministry of Labour, was cited as a
- 39:20source until the debunk, because the real increase was only the three nine points
- 39:22and it is so far from compensating for the fall of the royal exit since
- 39:27December. It is the government, the government of the bulls has not been,
- 39:29but it was much the right. Same thing with retirees. I drink
- 39:34trolls capu all my law sometimes like retirees are winning good. They are now
- 39:38beginning to improve it a little bit because of the new game died, but
- 39:42this one there to say that they took care of him won with Miley or
- 39:45the last two months. I say a lot of interesting debate with Camilo tomorrow.
- 39:47Not here what money we need dollars and the fund doesn' t give
- 39:52us what situation we' re going to be in, we' re going
- 39:53to go, we' re going to cry again, we' re going
- 39:55to throw the caps at the Monetary Fund. What about the exit of the
- 39:58Sep because it delays and delays the activity when it starts to recover that when
- 40:01it plays well well to chat tomorrow with the friend camiloticona that in plural construction
- 40:07I go not for tomorrow with road, but for backward. Yesterday and what
- 40:10Guayme told you not since yesterday, Fernando, the country is totally polarized.
- 40:15I didn' t say there was the President' s management. It has
- 40:16forty- five percent approval according to my juboy work my associates, and fifty
- 40:21disapproval, i e neteo minus five. And the image of the President,
- 40:25for the first time in the leteo, is negative. Forty- seven in
- 40:29favor, fifty- three percent against forty- seven percent. See that they
- 40:35look good in my law. He hopes that things will get better a year
- 40:37from here and that sacrifice will turn the pain. But, on the other
- 40:40hand, many do not know or do not answer. They don' t
- 40:43know the answer. I don' t like the government saying that Ime feels
- 40:46that the one who approves has expectations of what he voted for and that the
- 40:51crisis is all the fault of the previous government, which to a large extent
- 40:54was now the inheritance. My law deepened the bad situation of the jurors,
- 41:00of the real joy, of inflation, with the evolution stranger and so on.
- 41:05It' s not going to raise a single tax. I' m
- 41:07gonna cut off an arm first. It went up in place fuels, retentions
- 41:09to industrial goods, profits, all the taxes that are not participable. Not
- 41:14good. That' s the economy in Don Javier Miley' s management.
- 41:21Let' s see, I' m still waiting for Gustavo. Well,
- 41:24we sent, but I don' t have a sign. He' ll
- 41:27have you in trouble with the ROFI. I' m gonna send you Juan
- 41:29a batch and I' m gonna talk to you on the private line for
- 41:30a second. Let' s see if we make an attempt with another interviewee
- 41:35to supply Gustavo, who is really not shown up, but he must have
- 41:37an already Mexico problem with gowyp Ok. So nothing, we go to the
- 41:42batch a quick batch Juan Tranqui, see, we locate Carlos Germano who passes
- 41:45them the contact and the production and we see in agreement. We are going
- 41:50to the so- called day of the Institute for the Promotion of the Argentine
- 41:57Meat in general Villegas, province of Buenos Aires. How to measure the quality
- 42:00of meat by field. Wednesday, July 3. Establishments in Eduardo, Route
- 42:06thirty- three kilometer four hundred twenty free entry of limited quotas. Bradford Association
- 42:12Argentina collaborates. The inta reports in registration in LEW and PCBA com ar to
- 42:19eleven forty- four fifteen eighty- one eighty- nine. We remind you
- 42:25that you can find us on social networks, on our website, where we
- 42:30extend our journalistic work. We find ourselves on Twitter, under Nick Arroba,
- 42:34on Instagram, fer M two thousand twenty- two. Fer M de Fermaury
- 42:39two thousand twenty- two and, as always where we upload audios of the
- 42:45program analysis of specialist columnists. Our website adds triple approaches, Blogspot, com
- 42:52art. All right, I got it, pal Carlos Germano, Carlos,
- 43:00good afternoon, how' s it going Hi, how' s it going?
- 43:01How' s it going? Fernando good afternoon. Well, all right,
- 43:05thank you for looking at us and doubly because we got you out of
- 43:07your way. You weren' t in the grice, but well, with
- 43:08everything that' s going on in Congress and incidents, you' re a
- 43:12little aware. You' re seeing a little bit, no, and I
- 43:15' ve been looking, watching. Let' s say good history, they
- 43:22repeat it permanently when some debate of these characteristics and that are new and that
- 43:30are functional here, I believe they are part of the Argentine political culture.
- 43:35Let' s just say what you' re seeing in the Senate is that
- 43:39no one is responsible for anything in Argentina. I' m just looking there,
- 43:45at the different ones. Some I saw are like all the evils of
- 43:52Argentina started an hour on December 10. The Prono take charge, the radicals,
- 44:00neither the Peronists let' s not say it is. Let' s
- 44:05say so myself. What I' m seeing, Fernando, is like there
- 44:08' s two sides at clear levels, there' s a public opinion,
- 44:15a society that' s manifesting itself in a way that proposed it on 19
- 44:22November last year and a political leadership, let' s say it' s
- 44:28like it didn' t become aware what' s right in my law is
- 44:31President of the Republic and in peace. To that it seems to me that
- 44:34it is what one comes, sees, comes seeing or listening to speeches in
- 44:45which they are not, say, novel, has nothing. They are constantly
- 44:51posing situations, talking about situations in which no one is responsible for anything.
- 44:58This seems to me to be the photo that we are looking at today,
- 45:00unfortunately. And you understand that because my law is President. I think in
- 45:05the twenty- three what the big sector of Argentine society voted, at least
- 45:10in the ballotash is they voted against a model that they thought was exhausted Well,
- 45:22Carlos took advantage of you short and the last and has not changed in
- 45:25terms of public opinion, that photo of November is more than fifty and peak
- 45:30because you speak like two countries. Let' s say the prisoner' s.
- 45:34I am talking about the fact that, in general terms, what I
- 45:37am seeing is that there is a sector that still continues with a brutal adjustment,
- 45:44as many years ago it was not seen in Argentina and where fundamentally the
- 45:52most affected are the middle sectors of Argentine society. But they are still basically
- 45:58eating 35- year- old sectors for the middle and lower middle sectors,
- 46:04mainly men are supporting a project led by Javier Miley. It seems to me
- 46:14that it still has a level of adhesion and empathy that is going on over
- 46:22fifty points and in which I repeat you with a really very, very,
- 46:30very strong adjustment, let' s say. And then you have a hard
- 46:34core also where if you lead clear from opposition sectors, let' s say.
- 46:42I think that' s still under discussion. Who can be a valid
- 46:45alternative. Some figure is beginning to be sketched. Fundamentally the one who is
- 46:52trying best to advance those times is the Governor of the province of Buenos Aires,
- 46:55as being the counterface of the model that is magno mile and I would
- 47:00say that is the photo that I am seeing, the photo today of the
- 47:05Senate of the Nation. It' s a photo that I' ve already
- 47:08seen in my long professional life and in my long life as a human being,
- 47:15saying exactly the same thing, wanting to fix the country and nobody ever
- 47:20took care of what happened in this country. This is today I' d
- 47:22tell you the picture I' m seeing, at least today, June 12th,
- 47:29two thousand twenty- three twenty- four. Thank you very much,
- 47:31thank you very much, Carlos, Embrazo, Grande, Gracias, Gracias.
- 47:36Well, we suddenly looked for Carlos Germano because we thought Gustavo wasn' t
- 47:39coming out anymore. But Gustavo is finally late, but I' m sure
- 47:42he' ll be angry when I tell him that, Gustavo, how he
- 47:44' s doing, how he' s doing. Very good afternoon listening to
- 47:50Carlos Jamano, a good friend from years ago, and I fully agree with
- 47:53what he says about really. How far is this rope and how far do
- 48:00you remember this estate backed by a generational stratum that perhaps voted for that which
- 48:08was fed up with the past. Then this one accompanies. This may be,
- 48:15say, triumph or sinking all together, but at least this one no
- 48:22longer sees that generation no longer wants half inks. The Government needs the law
- 48:31almost more than due to the future practical effects of the law, for the
- 48:36political signal that after six months it achieves a legislative triumph. I don'
- 48:44t think you' re interested in a legislative triumph. Javier Miley is interested
- 48:50that his projects, his campaign promises and the support he had electorally from doing
- 48:55what he said he was going to do, follow it. I believe that
- 49:00at this point in the party to Javier Mileiden, logically, there is an
- 49:07institutional aspect that cannot be ignored. But I don' t think that leaves
- 49:12him sleepless if they' re in favor, if they' re against it.
- 49:15If he has you I will go abroad, you know that there are
- 49:20also outside pressures in terms with besides bringing out a law that the executive gets
- 49:23a law of Congress. That is why that is the institutional aspect which I
- 49:28mean, not the rest. It' s part of it. In addition,
- 49:32we return to chicanerías, let us say from parliamentary debates, but not
- 49:39from high altitude, but from chicanería. Then, all of a sudden,
- 49:44we have him there now, the representative or guarantor of republican and democratic institutionality,
- 49:52as is Mr Lu Tv, taking positions that even his own party is
- 49:57not sharing them today. So these are things that I really repeat to you,
- 50:05I don' t know if they take the dream away from the president
- 50:10of my law that has to happen. It has to happen. Evidently,
- 50:15here we are transgressing the forms and backgrounds of the historic Argentine politics, which
- 50:22neither in the background, as Carlos said, or at a certain age,
- 50:29is the sum of frustrations. You no longer see is the sum of hopes,
- 50:37then about frustrations with the same actors who pretend to say that kind of
- 50:43tearing their veins for institutional and republican issues. We haven' t achieved much
- 50:50either. I don' t mean to go to the extreme, but it
- 50:55' s six months. It is six months that, logically, some aspects
- 51:00have been achieved things that had not been achieved in others have become messy as
- 51:06they have never even been disordered. Then there' s some. Let'
- 51:12s say, checkn ballance or the containment levels to see. Obviously, they
- 51:19are also proligate actions. At some points, the President, let us say,
- 51:25may be acting as a sort of President of a European Government, such
- 51:32as the President of Italy, who we do not know who he is but
- 51:37we do know the Prime Minister. Here' s a figure that' s
- 51:42really going outside. He' s handling, say, a media position never
- 51:50imagined in many ways. I' ll tell you if I go, as
- 51:53I was last week working in plenary of the Maya area, totally rural,
- 51:59with illiterate and literate people of the Spanish language. They just chamuyan two or
- 52:05three words and they talk to you and they tell you look and that is,
- 52:10obviously it has a phenomenon that you have to see where it came from.
- 52:13I don' t know, but we take into account that it'
- 52:17s really a freak that' s upset. Let' s say the balance,
- 52:22not because that person, with his acts, his say his character and
- 52:30everything else is doing things that perhaps another person more democratically in the case of
- 52:37but I can say in our neighboring country, Alberto the Pou street has all
- 52:43the characteristics of thought and everything, but it does not have that rebellion,
- 52:46that sort of say of marketer image or transgressor of look ay and perhaps the
- 52:52two are being made, one by the smooth way and the other by the
- 52:59way let' s say deprolija or another aggressor that has marked Argentina in the
- 53:04last six months. Yes, it is true that with those traditional mechanisms,
- 53:09which many yearn for or long for, the country has not improved in the
- 53:15last forty years of democracy. Not all of this I have referred to the
- 53:23picture of the morqueetigro, which attracts attention, or is necessarily a positive phenomenon
- 53:29in the world, the presence of Miley, or the travels and so on
- 53:31of Milla and the figuration of Milegia. I think it attracts attention. Evidently,
- 53:36he is a person, let' s say, rebellious to himself and
- 53:44has called everything anti. You' re all right. In his case.
- 53:47It has marked a position of liberal economic ideas which it is perhaps analyzing from
- 53:55a vision of a world where it may begin to turn around. I say
- 54:04to turn ideologically we see what happened in France, obviously also that a young
- 54:13person has emerged, also with a quite transgressive attitude. So to see the
- 54:20forms, I think that the traditional forms have already been separated a little bit
- 54:30from the current situations. Let' s say how the world goes and moves
- 54:37this new generation chamala millenium or now the post mileños. I don' t
- 54:45know what stage we' re at right now, not with high things that
- 54:49I mean. Things are really clear. Okay, we used to look for
- 54:55the diplomatic paths standing up and now, obviously, we see that that can
- 55:00look. Nor will they be working when it is criticized that when it is
- 55:06criticized that my law meets or what they criticize with a lot of business cream,
- 55:12even new technology company and so on, and not with heads of State
- 55:15head of Government. More than good, in particular this trip, if it
- 55:16is worth seven and so on, but I say what you answer. Let
- 55:22' s see. We have the example of López Obrador. He brought Tesla
- 55:24here to Mexico and installed it in the province that we can' t either.
- 55:30We cannot say that López Obrador was in his six years of government,
- 55:35a statesman who met, let us say, never. He left the country
- 55:40healthy, left the country exactly yes and then generated what he called the welfare
- 55:45conditions. I' m going to use your terms and shared prosperity for your
- 55:52people and if you need to, you didn' t touch Mr Carlos Ellin
- 55:58within your left thinking. We were touched by the big economic groups that run
- 56:00Mexico' s economy. On the contrary, he gave them work. Then
- 56:06the issue is I remember and perhaps the position in his distance seems to be
- 56:15what the Alfonsipi Caputo effect was, that is, the true Foreign Minister of
- 56:20Argentina at the beginning of democracy. It was Raúl Alfonsín Caputo, He was
- 56:25a manager, let' s say, computer of the excellent policy in the
- 56:30case of Milak with Diana Mondino, who we are seeing since the same thing
- 56:36happens, that is to say, who picks up the phone and talks to
- 56:42the person who has to talk to the leader, etcetera, etcetera. His
- 56:43name is Javier Milley. Let' s see, it' s a bit
- 56:46of a saying, Mira. We settle this, we agree on this,
- 56:50after the boys say many that the respective Chancellery will give it the form they
- 56:55deem appropriate, but the agreement is now closed and that is the real policy.
- 57:05Now, if we start or think that and someone tells you about diplomatic
- 57:08training, I' m not going to kill an intermediary and I' m
- 57:15going to look like the old diplomacy of the sixties, of the seventies,
- 57:20if he winked at me, I don' t wink. How I should
- 57:22interpret all that. And an example of Kevin Cosner' s famous film about
- 57:30the October- month missile crisis in Cuba, that is, they depended on
- 57:36whether the look was a sign that he was telling the truth or not and
- 57:39in the end find a guy who was selling bumps on the street who was
- 57:45the interlocutor. Well, here' s the same thing, I mean that
- 57:49diplomacy. I believe that he has left aside the same technological evolution of gripping.
- 57:54I don' t know a whatsapp, the phone or whatever, and
- 57:59on top of that seeing batin is the right thing or I can tell you
- 58:01where I am. Not thirteen days, the thirteen days that moved the world
- 58:06big movie. I remember very, very good movies. Well, the one
- 58:08I saw with we' re old. We' re old. We don
- 58:10' t recognize. That' s good. And now my laycy with a
- 58:14very interesting state trip, we got a minute left. Nothing more was very
- 58:15interesting of state. In the next few days leave seven down. That'
- 58:20s not good. It' s gonna be again. I think it'
- 58:22s gonna be his own show. He' s going to Buddha the positions
- 58:27he creates something similar to what he did in tavos no and he' s
- 58:32going to mark his court and in the background, for certain currents that are
- 58:39being given, there' s what is guaranteed. I' m an ally.
- 58:42I' m not leaving with half inks and I think that' s
- 58:45what you' re going to reaffirm at the meeting that seven don' t.
- 58:49My course is this way. Let us hope that we can cross with
- 58:52Lula, who is the main trading partner of Argentina brass and good of that,
- 58:55I think it is important. He needs the prossobs shop to say,
- 59:00he needs money, and money is investment. It' s everything else in
- 59:06all its expectation. It' s where we' re analyzing quality between wages
- 59:13and all that, and it' s investment. Otherwise, it doesn'
- 59:15t come out today as the country is. Yes, re- plugging the
- 59:17machine and starting to distribute meaningless, unsupported, unbacked and almost inkless bills.
- 59:28Not well, well, my friend, thank you very much. We meet
- 59:31again next week like you always do. Thank you perfect. See you later,
- 59:35huge hug Gustavo frably walpues before Mexico, our correspondent, we leave tomorrow,
- 59:38four in the afternoon with Camilo Ticorna closing week by Bay. Thank you,
- 59:42Juan Genio Thank you.