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Learn how to Champion a cause Like an Olympian Does · Authentic Living

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Welcome to authentic living with Roxanne, a place where we have as conversations about
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things that really matter in our lives.
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And now here's your host, Roxanne Derhodge.
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Hi, everyone.
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It's Roxanne Sand.
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I have a someone that I've known actually goodness, Mike.
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I'm trying to think of how long we've known each other.
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Mike's strange.
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Mike is, is someone that's been in, the migrant community and has done some pretty big things
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in the world in my opinion.
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So, Mike, thanks for joining me off on, my show today.
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Thanks for having me, Roxanne.
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Appreciate it.
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So, Mike, I, you know, I'm gonna tell you some of the things that I know about Mike, but, I
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want Mike to, share with you what he's been up to.
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Mike has, been in the Niagara community for a very long time.
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I remember being at the hospital and us watching you at the hospital and you were
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Roxanne.
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That's, you know, everybody stopped to watch you box when you were the Olympics.
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And so Mike is a, Olympic boxer.
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He is also a part of city council.
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And he has ran across Canada for children's cancer.
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Is that what it was, Mike, that you did?
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Yes.
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As well as, Ron Montgomery.
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Of Ronald McDonald House.
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And recently, the power of social media, right?
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So, I, you know, I'm on Mike's Facebook and, I'd heard about the box run, but it's one
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thing, you know, when you hear about it.
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And so this is, wanted to talk about that, but he was almost heard about the El Camino and
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then, of course, getting intrigued by the El Camino.
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And then when you were there running and then you know, when you were sweaty and couldn't
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breathe and all that stuff.
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It really just kind of brought it to like about the importance of following the passions in
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your heart, what what's important to you.
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So that's why I wanted Mike to come on and chat a little bit with us today.
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So, like, I don't know, you know, I've obviously missed a lot of things about you, but
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what what other things should people know about you that are listening?
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Well, I I was, I was on the national boxing team for many, many years as I participated in,
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3 of the games, finish 5th in Atlanta.
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That was my best result, and it was kind of a controversial decision.
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But, yeah, I just, you know, when I was ten years old, I, I got in the sport of Roxanne,
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and I was, you know, competing, you know, I was at Saint Mary's Elementary Schools here in
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Niagara Falls and small school, you know, 100 kids, and, you know, didn't know if I want to
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excel in boxing.
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I was playing, soccer and hockey at the same time.
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It was a goaltender.
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And, you know, in 1984, I just remember watching the, Summer Olympic Games in Los
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Angeles and watching 2 of my idols, Sean Sullivan and Willie Duette, who ended up
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winning 2 silver medals.
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For Canada and watching these guys and on the top of the, you know, the second on the top of
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the podium, the the flag being risen, just thinking, wow, I wish I could get to that
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level.
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Someday, but, you know, when you're a kid, you're you think you gotta go to some special
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Olympic school or something like that.
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So I ended up kind of giving up, hockey and and soccer and still wonder how he would have done
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if I would have kept up with those sports, but went on with the sport of boxing and you know,
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you you set goals for yourself.
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To get to know the games, you have to obviously set many goals for yourself.
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So first one was to go to the, Ontario provincial partnerships and try to win them in
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your particular way class and, an age group.
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And I did, and I won, and I ended up going to the, national championships.
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So compete against all the other provinces in my age group and weight class and made it all
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the way to the finals and lost to a boxer.
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From Quebec, but, you know, it was second Encana, which was, pretty amazing.
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And, you know, I trained harder.
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And then the I made it all the way to the finals again and lost to another boxer from
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Quebec.
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So the French guys were beating up in the finals.
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But in in, you know, in 1987, I ended up, going to the proventials and winning them and going
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to the nationals.
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They were in Saint John's Newfoundland and, ended up winning, the national championships as
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a as a junior.
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So I was, you know, 17, and I, you know, once you're a national champion, you begin to travel
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all over the world Roxanne for King Canada wearing the red and white which was just
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amazing and went to so many different countries representing Canada.
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And, so it was gearing up for the senior level to get to the Olympic games.
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And, my first chance was to go to the 1992 Olympic games, in Barcelona and Spain.
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And, I, you know, just to get to the Olympics, that particular year they started, you had to
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not qualify through all not only qualify through Canada, but you had to qualify North
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American South America as well.
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So you had to finish in the top 5 in your weight class, which back then was
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featherweight.
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And, I qualify, which was amazing.
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And, you know, I think, you know, I'm just getting out of high school at that time at
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Stanford Collegiate in Niagara Falls and a little bit of a cocky kid and, you know, I was
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telling remember going to the Barcelona Olympics and telling people I'm going there.
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I'm gonna wanna blow metal.
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I'm gonna come back.
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I'm gonna, I'm gonna turn professional.
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I'm gonna be a world champion and make millions.
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And, well, you know, go to these big big Olympic games and you and you see them on TV
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and, you know, they have the opening ceremonies where you enter through the tunnel and there's,
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like, 80,000 people cheering for you.
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I remember being in that line up in 92.
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And, man, it was, you know, my one of 300 Canadian athletes getting ready, and we're, you
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know, 10th down the line from going in alphabet a quarter in the in the house, Canada, and
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going up to tunnel and I just froze and never had kinda had that experience before and wasn't
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prepared for it.
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And, 2 days later, I my first Roxanne match, I lost, and I was done Leverage.
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In boxing, there's no second chance once you lose, you're done.
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So, you know, I came back, you know, from Barcelona to Canada and not winning a gold
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medal and not gonna turn professional and not gonna make millions and realize, you know, you
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have to you know, seeing all these great track suits and, you know, that you're competing for
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in Canada and all these trophies and medals, but, you know, in the end, that's not gonna
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take your bills.
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So, you know, schooling was obviously very important.
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So, you know, I kept on with that, but I also kept with my boxing career and Beam began to
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get more experience internationally boxing for Canada.
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And then went on to the next Olympic games were, in Atlanta in 96.
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And, I was well prepared.
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I was, ranked, 5th in the world at the time going to the to those, trials.
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And I went through 1, the, the trials and 1 in North America, South American Championship.
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So I went there and, it it was just, amazing.
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So I go to Atlanta and it's just pick out of the hat who you type who you who you box, like
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bingo balls, you know, number you're fighting, Mexico, and I ended up winning against Mexico.
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And then, fighting another boxer from Armenia and and beat him.
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And then I was in the quarter finals boxing of Bulgaria, Tancho Tancho.
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And, I went in and, you know, the the judging, the head official of the judging, the guy was
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from Bulgaria, from his home country ended up losing the match when I I thought I should have
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won, and a lot of people from Canada thought I should have won, and very upset because, you
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know, you 4 years of your life you're training your butt off and, you know, the judges kinda
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take it away from you and, you know, just like you know, bigger skateings, you know,
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synchronized swimming.
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The judges can, take it away from you, and we put a protest in, but, nothing happened.
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He went on to go and win a silver medal.
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So I think I shouldn't want at least a silver medal.
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So it's I was so upset, you know, crying, very upset, and not wanting to do the sport anymore.
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And, you know, I started getting a lot of letters and emails to the Olympic village when
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I was in Atlanta the last few days and, you know, the same might keep your head held high.
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You should have won that match.
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You know, keep going and I got a particular email from my idol, Willie Duette.
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He was, the reason why I got into Roxanne.
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Why why wanna go to Olympics?
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Because was was this guy.
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And he basically just said, you know, turn negatives into positives.
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You know, in life, you're gonna go through that, you know, whether it may be, you know,
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getting laid off from a job, getting fired, stuff happens in life that it's not fair, and,
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this certainly wasn't fair.
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And I was just thinking, man, this guy went out of his way.
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He sent me this, and so I decided to give it another shot.
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And in the meantime, I met this this guy.
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His name was Bob Lavelle, and his nickname was Heater.
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And heater was a friend of my father's, and he was a very, he was a mentor of mine, and he
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worked for Bell Mobility at the time.
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So he actually gave me cell phone when cell phones just started coming out to kinda Yeah.
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Keep in contact with your friends and family and media while you're away boxing and he
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actually got me to go to train in in, in Toronto.
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And, and, you know, he saw the potential, but, you know, you need a little help, you know, as
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an amateur boxer or any amateur athlete that represents Canada, you don't get paid a lot.
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So, you know, you're working full time or going to school full time as well as training full
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time.
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So Heater or Bob helped me out quite a bit and was amazing.
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And then, you know, I went on to to, go to the 1998 common games in Malaysian won the gold
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medal there.
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And, you know, just remember being on the top of the podium, listen to the national anthem
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Blair and the flag being I remember watching Donovan Bailey and a few others when they won
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and they're, you know, crying.
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And I said, oh, that never happens.
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I don't ever, you know, I'll never cry while I got up there.
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I cried like a little baby, you know, so proud of, representing Canada when the gold medal and
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bringing it back to, to kick to Canada and, in particular, Niagara Falls.
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And, It was because of a heater that really helped me out, and I ended up going to my last
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Olympic games, which was in Sydney, Australia in 2000.
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And, It was a tough drive.
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I drew the 2nd best box in the world, and I lost lost legitimately, but it was because of
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heater that really help me out, to get to those last Olympic games and win the gold medal.
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And, you know, after that, I I I became a real estate agent and, train boxers myself.
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And, you know, wasn't sure what the future you know, had in store for me in in 2008, heater or
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Bob, he he asked me to go to the Olympics in Beijing as a spectator because his niece was
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competing, for baseball, Caitlin, lever.
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So I said, yeah, I'd love to, you know, just lend me time and stuff like that.
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So you know, I was waiting a few weeks, and I haven't heard from heater.
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So I phoned here, and I said, heater, what's going on?
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I'm waiting to see know, what's going on if we're gonna go to Beijing and and, and watch
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your niece.
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And he said, Mike, I got this pain in my shoulder that's brought me to my knees, and I
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always knew he'd eaters big, big guy strong, you know, not to affect him.
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He said, well, you, you know, obviously, you gotta get that checked out.
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And told me a few days later, he says, Mike, I got diagnosed with cancer.
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Oh.
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And, you know, I didn't know much about cancer and, you know, it was heartbreaking and he
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didn't know where the cancer kinda stem from the original spot, but, you know, he found out
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that it was pancreatic cancer.
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If there's a cancer you don't want, that's the cancer.
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And, you know, went through all the treatments and everything, and he had some high profile
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guys who were helping them out with Larry Playfair and and an actual hockey player in the
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States who's going through great treatment, but, you know, 8 short months, he passed away
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and and, I was really, really devastated.
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I remember being at the visitation and just like, it didn't hit me until I got there and I
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was just balling my eyes on.
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I remember Dougie Gilmore, coming, who's an exter automate belief and friends of heater and
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coming up and hugging me and and, you know, just said it was all, you know, heater was
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always proud in.
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You know, and so I thought I remember it after his funeral, I thought, what can we do to kinda
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carry on Peter's legacy?
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He did so much for children and and charities and helping athletes like myself.
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So I decided, to start an event at Oaks Park in Niagara Falls called heaters heroes run for
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children, and basically it was like a mini kind of wish foundation where, we would help kids
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who had, terminal illnesses or life altering illnesses or injuries.
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And, they would basically just walk or run or whatever they could do around, the four hundred
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meter track around the soccer pitch at Oaks Park here in Niagara Falls, and, So we did it
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and we had 13 children and, we got a committee together and we raised, I think it was over
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$13,000 that first year, and we help different, kids.
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But this one little girl, Kelsey Hill, she got a direct impact on me and you know, she had a
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brain tumor and, she was half paralyzed and, she had a patch of her eye and, and, you know,
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she she participated in in her wish and her family's wish was just to have, chairlift from
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where she was sleeping to the bathroom because they're on different levels.
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So we made that happen.
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And I actually pushed her in the Terry Fox run about a month later after that.
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The same park, ironically at Oaks Park, and, we came so close and on Facebook all the time,
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and, you know, she was only 12 at the time, and, I was at the volunteer kind of party after
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that we were, at the Fallsier Hoose Brigade in Niagara Falls, and, you know, these volunteers,
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they are just kind of thank him for the event at Oaks Park.
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And, you know, had a few pops, and we were celebrating a little bit.
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And I remember just thinking, you know, putting everything together about heater and about this
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poor little girl from Kelsey Hill once she was going through and he pushed her and in the
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Terry Fox run, and and that Terry Fox really just kinda hit me.
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I said, does anyone ever we knew Terry that started his marathon of Holtback in 1988 for
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12, so he made it all the way.
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He was attempting to, run across Canada with his prosthetic and he made it all near all the
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way near thunder bay and was forced to stop.
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And I said, does anyone ever kind of continued his run to raw Google it that day and and no
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one had.
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And it was like, I would just, like, rate that second.
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I'm like, I'm doing it.
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I'm doing it.
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Wow.
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So I remember November 1st, 2011, I started running.
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And, it was I was just training for this run, and I haven't told anybody about it.
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Really.
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And, you know, so I, you know, I kinda wanted to implement what Terry Fox did 32 years before
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and try to run a marathon today.
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And in boxing, we always ran five miles as fast as we can, and that was it.
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But here, you gotta, obviously, pace yourself.
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You wanna run a marathon.
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A day.
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So I started running, and I remember just starting, and my long run would be 30
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kilometers, and it would take, you know, like, 3 hours and I remember seeing my one friend,
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Mike Majewski, and he was out with his family, like, at, like, 9 in the morning, he saw me.
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And then, like, 3 hours later, he saw me still running.
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He's like, like, what are you doing?
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I say I was out shopping.
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I come out and you're still running.
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I go out of thinking about doing this run.
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I'm not sure.
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Didn't really fill them in.
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Well, in December, I got a horrible call from Kelsey's mom that, Kelsey's mom, Lana Hill,
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said Kelsey passed away this morning.
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And I was just, another, you know, more devastating news.
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And, you know, I said, you know, if I was thinking about, I'm definitely doing it now.
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And, you know, to run across Canada, you obviously need support and didn't really know
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what I needed.
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So I did my research, so I'm, you know, trying to get an RV because you obviously gotta sleep
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in places and, you know, different stops to, you know, people gotta cook for you and and I
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wanted to go to different schools.
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I needed people to raise that on social media.
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So I got a core group of people together and, And I phoned my buddy, Tim Getty's, and Tim is
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a big, big guy, one of my best friends I've known him since grade 9.
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He would like John Candy, funny, funny guy.
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So there's a guy he went out there and kinda, you know, keeping things enjoyable while you're
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doing it.
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It's Tim.
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And, when I phoned him, he says, Mike, of course, I love to help you.
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He goes, in fact, my son's friend, Matteo Mancini, has the same cancer as Terry Fox.
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He's getting his leg amputated in 2 days.
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And he was only eleven years old.
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So I, you know, he's from Thorold, and I said, it just kinda never ends, you know, stemming
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from heater now to Kelsey, now to Matteo, And I thought to myself, wouldn't wouldn't it be
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great?
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Cause my plan was to start April 12th, 2012, so it'd be 32 years to the date that Terry dipped
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his leg in the Atlantic Ocean, and I was hopefully gonna continue his run from your
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thunder day where he's forced to stop.
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So that was the date we were looking for.
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So we got together, and I thought, wouldn't it be great if Matteo could come out?
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You know, we know we just gotta go through treatment at McMaster for, for chemo and and
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flying back and forth.
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But what a great legacy would be for Matteo and, Matteo's parents were kinda going through
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separation at the time and You see that a lot happening with with kids who fight cancer,
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their parents, obviously, it's it's tough to stay together because there's so stressful, you
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know, mentally and and, you know, going through financially.
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So when we approached, Matteo, And I said, this is what we wanna do, and and his mom was like,
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absolutely not.
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You're not taking my baby anywhere from me.
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As he's fighting cancer and going through this.
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And m Mateo, they started looking his eyes.
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He says, mom, I wanna be the next Terry Fox.
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So it's kinda something they they couldn't say no.
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So we, we had several meetings.
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We held them at the Falls River Gaye, which I'm a member at in Niagara Falls, and, kind of what
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we wanted to, do and accomplish and where our money you wanted to go.
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We weren't sure and what we wanted to call it.
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You know, my initial, thing, kind of title for it was, Mateo and Mike's journey to K O Cancer.
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To Kayo Childhood Cancer.
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We got to the meeting, and it was about probably about 2 weeks before I'm supposed to
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leave.
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Plan leaving.
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So I ended up getting an RV donated, from a family and and, And when I went, we had this
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meeting, and my buddy, Andy Byrd, who's kind of a a business guy.
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And and, he he knows the stuff.
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He goes to China, and he he does some import export and stuff.
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And it was, Mike, I liked the, what you're doing.
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I think it's great.
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He goes, I I the name, I'm not sure about.
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He goes, I I don't think say you wanted to continue this after this.
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How can you do that with that kind of name or keep it going?
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So we came up with kind of a logo and it's it was box run.
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A boxer.
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I ran Rhine with Fox, and it was just kinda, you know, out sticking outside the box, and it
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was so many different meetings.
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Box run running for the fight.
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I was like, wow.
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I love it.
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You know what I mean?
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There was there was one person that really liked it.
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And then afterwards, he kinda got on board but then there was a couple of people that were
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just, like, really negative that were my friends.
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They're like, Mike, you're gonna lose, you know, I was running a bar at the time.
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He said, you're gonna lose your job.
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How are you gonna afford to do this?
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You know, it needs more preparing, and I've just said, you know, listen, guys, I will get
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my backpack right now and I'll start running away from this call.
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I'm prepared.
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I've been running.
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I've been doing this.
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I've been training for 4 months, so I'm ready to do it.
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Well, you know, they all kinda changed their when I was so positive and and motivated them
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kind of.
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So we had a, you know, kind of a going away party where we raised, like, $15,000 right
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away, which was really amazing.
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And one day within a week, we did it, and it was crazy.
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So we got our our RV and We, we drove to Thunder Bay and was on April 10th that we
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drove.
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Got there at April 11th.
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And a lot of people don't know, but Terry Fox never made it to Thunder Bay.
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He actually named it.
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Made it to this little town and, scriber, or in a, shoonya.
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And that there's a little post there where he ended, and it says, you know, of the mileage
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and the date that he ended, which is September 1st, 2018.
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And it took us 2 or 3 times to drive past this post.
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So we ended up meeting with the mayor of, of Shumya, and there was actually, a petition
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because they wanna move this post because the 2 lane highway, they want to move in a 4 lane
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highway.
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So I signed a petition And Mateo wasn't there at the time because he we had to fly him in
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because he couldn't be in the RFPs for 17 hours on a on a truck up there.
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We waited for them.
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We signed a petition and, you know, I think, you know, to to move this post, Terry Fox is
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the biggest hero of all time in Canada.
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That's, you know, I think there should be a holiday named after him.
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Right?
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So I signed a petition.
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I said, if anyway, if you're gonna put this two lane into a four lane, you know, move the post
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in the middle and have a Tim Hortons.
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You can't get more Canadian than that.
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You know, it would be awesome.
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So Yeah.
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We, it was kinda funny because we were measuring The, so we started in Chuna, and we
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were supposed to meet the morning and and Matteo came back the the the night of on 11th.
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So in the morning on 12th, We stayed in in a Thunder Day at a at a hotel, which which a lot
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of people were donating.
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So if someone donated a hotel in in Thunder Bay, so we drove, and measured it out from the
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point where he was forced to stop to the big, huge statue of Terry Fox in, in Thunder Bay.
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And it was, approximately, I think it was 8 kilometers or Yeah.
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8 kilometers we measured.
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So I I said, oh, I can run that.
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No problem.
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So we're meeting the mayor of Shania and then meeting the mayor of Thunder Bay.
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So I had about you know, an hour and a half, we met, and and the the girl's the mayor of
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shooting.
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It's like, he better get going.
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You gotta, you know, like, 14 kilometers.
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I mean, oh, we measured it.
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It's like 8 kilometers.
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Well, we didn't realize that our RV was an American RV was measuring miles.
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Oh, okay.
22:48
So right away, we were like, Oh my god.
22:50
And I got, you know, Tim Getty's who he was trying to convert, miles to kilometers, and I
22:55
know I was going a lot more than marathons.
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Time, but nonetheless, I made it to, to the statue that day on time, and there was, you
23:02
know, a little bit of a crowd, know, it wasn't much, but we met the mayor and there was some
23:07
film there.
23:08
And, they were filming, Mateo and and talking to him and he was very positive.
23:14
And then, Matteo left and he went back to McVaster for treatments.
23:19
We were planning it.
23:20
So the next next kind of major city that Matteo would come in would be Winnipeg and then we'd
23:25
go to Regina, Calgary, and then have him in Victoria and have him dip his leg in the ocean,
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Terry Fox did 3 2 years before.
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And, so Matteo left and so I started running in in Northern Ontario.
23:39
The hills are huge.
23:40
So basically, would run to the RV and then we do eight and a half kilometers five times a
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day, to make up that marathon.
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So I'd run and it'd be on the side of the highway and run it by myself.
23:52
And these hills were, you know, I thought, you know, running up Clifton Hill, the training,
23:55
and stuff I was doing was gonna be enough in fireman's part to meet enough for these hills
23:59
in Northern Ontario, which they weren't.
24:01
It was brutal.
24:02
And I right away, you know, I was, my legs were getting really sore and, you know, so every 8
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and a half kilometers, I stop for, like, 15, 20 minutes.
24:10
Then on my 3rd leg, which would be, you know, like, 25 kilometers.
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I stop for lunch.
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And then, you know, I do that extra two legs.
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And then, you know, I'd be done for the day and you know, it was so tough, especially the last
24:21
couple of legs where you're just running and, you know, the physical part was really tough at
24:26
the beginning.
24:27
And then, you know, we got to where I remember getting caught in a blizzard.
24:30
The 6th day we were there.
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We couldn't get kicked off the highway, but but we knew we're on schedule.
24:35
So I was running on the highway, and basically it was blocked off.
24:39
And the cops basically kicked us off.
24:42
And yelling at us, swearing at us, and they saw, basically, on the side of the RV, what we
24:46
were doing.
24:46
They said, guys, you know what you're doing.
24:48
It's a great cause, but no air over here for your safety.
24:50
You couldn't even see it on running in this, like, foot, snow on on the on the highway,
24:55
highway number 1 to Transcat on the highway.
24:58
And, so we ended up finishing the marathon that day, which was pretty extraordinary because we
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had to come back about 4 or 5 hours later till it's all cleared out.
25:06
But we, you know, and that the mental, it started getting really mentally tough, you
25:11
know, after a week or so as we're getting towards you know, the Manitoba border because,
25:16
you know, these just hills are huge, and you're by yourself.
25:19
And, you know, I'm listening.
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What what happens to you mentally?
25:22
Because, like, I mean, I know obviously you're an Olympian and you know, like, but mentally,
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what happens to you when physically you're that tired?
25:29
What tell me what happens in your head.
25:31
Well, you're just thinking, and and music was a big part of it at first.
25:34
So I would have, you know, 50, 60 songs that I'm listening to.
25:38
And, you know, my favorite songs were you know, running on empty was one of my favorite from
25:43
Jackson Brown.
25:44
You know what I mean?
25:45
And against the win, Bob Seager.
25:48
When you swipe every time you get something, you'd be like, okay.
25:50
You know, and I'd be thinking I'd put my Kelsey Hill shirt on or think of the tail and thinking
25:55
of what these kids had to go through and I'd suck it up and get through and get through the
25:59
end of the day.
26:00
And, okay, and then, you know, just, you know, the food the nutrition, right?
26:04
I'm losing weight and you're trying to eat as much as you can, but, you know, you're burning
26:07
5000 calories a day.
26:09
It's it's impossible to consume that.
26:12
So you're losing weight and you're losing strength, but, the mental part got over the
26:16
physical part.
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You know, you're fighting through it.
26:18
So you
26:18
just you just kept in your mind.
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This is bigger than me.
26:23
This is about, you know, heater.
26:26
This is about Kelsey.
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This is about Mateo.
26:29
And that's is that what you know, when you're I'm sure physically, like, I've I was listening
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to you when you're in Spain, and I was like, wow.
26:36
Like, you know, because your body's fighting against you in every way, like you said, but
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you still somehow in your mind kept that image of what you wanted to achieve.
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Yeah.
26:46
And it was amazing because and and, you know, even in the second one, I'm totally talking
26:51
about, but every time that I felt like I can't do this anymore.
26:55
I'd get some kind of message or an email, and we have a blog on on Facebook, and we would do
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videos and you know, the since the social media has changed so much from Facebook and that,
27:07
like, we had to we brought a guy a video on for there, and he would have to filmas at the end,
27:11
and I donate or dedicate every day to someone who has, you know, is fighting cancer, passed
27:16
away from cancer.
27:17
I could put flags Canadian flags from the Dollar store on the highway.
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And I know there's still a couple, taped up to, some bulls and stuff, so I'm dedicated to to,
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to a child and put word of the day like strength or courage.
27:32
And, you know, it was, it was great and we do a blog, but they would have to this video, it's
27:39
it it's amazing when you think it went out, they would have to condense it.
27:42
It would take, like, 8 or 9 hour put this, like, 32nd video of me dedicating something and
27:46
put it on Facebook and people were were on Facebook.
27:49
But, like, Mike, I can't sleep unless and we were, like, 2 or 3 days behind some because of
27:53
these videos, he had took a lot a lot to do.
27:55
So everyone's like, I can't sleep unless I get to your your video blog at night.
27:59
So, you know, and just the, the mental part going up these hills, just looking for the RV
28:05
and not seeing it go down a hill and look it back up there.
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There's the RV.
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It's like, oh, I need a little bit of rest.
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You know?
28:11
Reenergize in food and drinks and whatever I can get it in my body and, you know, and and
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praying for flat land.
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Well, guess what?
28:18
In Manitoba, I got my wish.
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Because now I could see my RV 5 kilometers away and it's not getting any closer because there's
28:25
no hills at
28:26
all.
28:27
Right.
28:27
Right.
28:28
But, it started picking up.
28:29
The Roxanne started picking up momentum as we got into Manitoba.
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You started getting requests from schools.
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Which was great.
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Media was coming out and, interviewing media on the side of the road about the cause, and we're
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getting donations.
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And it was it was amazing.
28:45
And, but now it was getting tougher for me because now I'm going to talk to schools which
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are an hour away.
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We would take the RV.
28:54
We would take an hour, go talk for an hour, set up, and then come back.
28:57
And now that's not your foot.
28:58
Now these 5 hour runs, are turning into, like, 9 hour runs and getting interviewed and stuff.
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So it was really, you know, sometimes you lose focus of why you're doing it because you're so
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exhausted.
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I'm like, I don't wanna you know, I I just wanna be left alone, but that was part of it.
29:13
Part of the whole thing.
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You know, you get people like Tim reminding me this is why we're doing it like, you know, we
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would fight with each other a bit on the RV, you know, and just over stupid stuff.
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I just want to rest and and Tim is very, very ADD, and he's just, like, constantly on you.
29:29
Right?
29:29
And he's,
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you
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know, running, you know, walking back and forth and don't realize that he's cooking the whole
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time or doing my laundry stuff that a lot of people don't wanna do.
29:37
Right?
29:38
What an amazing what an amazing thing though, Mike.
29:40
You know, like, in all fairness, I knew a little bit about box run, but this this is a
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one of the amazing story because, you know, physically, like, obviously, you know what it
29:50
is to tax your body and that and, you know, at some point, the mind takes over for you.
29:56
And it's it you know, for the average person, like, you know, that's maybe listening to this,
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It's probably hard for them to understand what it takes, but it takes you go into a mental
30:05
space that allows you to stay focused.
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Yeah.
30:08
It it really did.
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And and it got really tough.
30:12
We got to Winnipeg.
30:13
We got gained more momentum and there was more people coming out and helping out because, you
30:18
know, Tim had to leave who would bring other people on and and or or someone else would come
30:22
out and help Tim.
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But when we got to Winnipeg, that was for where Terry Fox's family was from.
30:29
And so the reaction from that Schools, and we were at City Hall, and Matteo went in.
30:35
Matteo came in and he was like their little rock star.
30:38
Curly hair like Terry Fox.
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We're on TV.
30:40
Breakfast television, radio, and, he was great.
30:44
Mateo was was amazing, and it was gaining a lot of momentum.
30:48
It really was.
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And then, you know, a couple days there, and then, Matteo had to go back.
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And so now the next time we were gonna see him was in Regina.
30:58
So we continued running and and, yeah, it started getting a lot of momentum boxing gyms,
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schools.
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Everybody wanted me there, and and it was was great.
31:06
We're just telling the story of why I was doing this.
31:09
Mhmm.
31:09
And, got the brand in Manitoba, but I the mental part started getting really bad.
31:14
So my buddy, Jack Ross, and came and he's from Niagara Lake, and he was doing a lot of the
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the, preparing for schools and social media stuff.
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He would be cooking and and stuff like that or driving the RV.
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And, got to one point.
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I had about 4 kilometers left to one day.
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I said, Jack, I said, get some shoes on, buddy.
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You're running with me, those last four.
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I'm by myself.
31:37
It's killing me, being by myself.
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You know, it's almost too too much time to sink.
31:42
You know what I mean?
31:42
Running every day by yourself.
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You're driving yourself crazy.
31:46
And, Jack's like, I don't have any shoes.
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I go with size.
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You're a size 9.
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I got 12 pairs there for people donating to me, and I'm size 9.
31:54
You're getting a pair of shoes on.
31:56
And at the time, I think he was 43.
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Not athletic.
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He smoked for almost 28 years.
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Well, he came out.
32:06
He ran and almost killed him.
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He had to a run walk, run walk.
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He was and he do that almost every day to help me out the last 4 kilometers.
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They came up to 8 he was making more money than I was, doing the box run from friends because
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they couldn't believe this guy was running.
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And he quit smoking that day into this day.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
32:24
Which is pretty amazing.
32:25
So, you know, I think, I inspired him by, you know, getting him out and doing that.
32:30
And then, you know, he inspired me by stop smoking.
32:33
He knew we were out here for you know, childhood cancer research and, you know, to
32:39
stop smoking is obviously a a big thing.
32:41
Right?
32:42
So to this day, since 2012, yeah, that cigarette.
32:45
Wow.
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Wow.
32:46
So you
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I mean, truly inspirational.
32:49
Right?
32:49
Because you're you're running because of kids that are developing catchers for a lot of
32:53
different reasons, but we know that smoking is such, you know, it's a big thing that takes a
32:57
lot of people's lives.
32:58
So for him, just because you needed him, it it it created a shift.
33:03
What what a what a gift that, was able to happen on on that experience.
33:07
Well, it sounds like there was a lot of gifts that happened there, Mike.
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It was.
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Yeah.
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And and, you know, he did inspire me.
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We're doing that choose a lot of gum now.
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I know that, but he got this full.
33:17
But after that, and and we were heading to, Saskatchewan.
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And Saskatchewan wasn't very good as far as, you know, media and stuff like that.
33:26
And there's a lot of when you're we're running on the highway.
33:28
So we get a little shoulder of the road big trucks going by and it was freezing and the
33:33
wind going east to west.
33:35
The wind is always in your always in your face.
33:39
Always in your face, and it would feel like, you know, there was 90 kilometer winds in my
33:43
face.
33:44
And, you know, it was it was, really tough.
33:48
And it just, you know, you're you feel like you're you're walking because it's so strong
33:53
this win, and then you got trucks going by and splashing you and your mud and, you know, and
33:58
then you have cities that, you know, were used to Niagara Falls Lincoln in the Saint
34:01
Catherine's that's linked into another city.
34:03
Well, there's 100 kilometers where there's no city.
34:06
Just you and this RV in in the highway.
34:08
And, you know, you'd stay in the RV some nights or in hotels.
34:11
And, you know, at least I gotta look look forward to, Mateo come in Regina.
34:16
And when we got to Regina, we got some horrible news.
34:21
Matteo's mom phoned and says he can't Matteo can't come anymore.
34:24
His, his cancer spread from his from his legs to his lungs.
34:29
So they found, tumors in his lungs and, you know, the exactly the same as Terry Fox.
34:34
So he wasn't coming back anymore, and I just met me and Tim, and it was just me and Tim at
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that point in time.
34:40
And we're just falling our eyes.
34:42
So and, we actually ended up going to a to a bar, and I remember having a few few beers, and
34:49
we're drinking shots at Stambucca, and, crying.
34:54
And I remember my my my one buddy handy the guy who came up with the box run the kind of logo
34:59
and the ID says, you know, this is the reason why you wrote there for kids like Mateo.
35:03
And, you know, so I'm crying at one point, I think the bartender thought me and Tim were
35:07
breaking up because we're trying to get
35:08
I thought that you're okay.
35:10
Yeah.
35:11
It was pretty comical, but I remember the next morning waking up and with a bad hangover and
35:16
having to run and and Mhmm.
35:17
Man, that was one of the toughest days for sure because I was running, and it was not nice out
35:22
in, you know, in Not a lot of people were out and running down Saskatchewan, there's so much
35:27
wind in my face and just crying and and looking up and just saying, you know, leave this kid
35:32
alone.
35:33
Know, you took his legs and now you spread it to his lungs, just give this kid a break.
35:37
Well, Matteo phoned me, like, 2 days later, he was on switch spots here if you want.
35:40
So it's one of those things.
35:42
Oh, wow.
35:43
I couldn't really quit.
35:44
Right?
35:44
So
35:45
So that just gave you the extra mental, like, you know, and and, you know, I just think about
35:50
And if and and and it was like those type of things when when I thought, you know, maybe I
35:55
can't do it or I feel like quitting that you'd get a call it's just something that happened.
36:00
That's like, okay.
36:01
Well, now I got this boost.
36:02
You know what I mean?
36:03
So, you know, I I listen and I'm I'm inspired you know, just listening to what you're saying
36:08
because, you know, so much too many of us have gone through stuff.
36:11
Right?
36:12
Like you said, we've all gone through stuff or people that are listening now are going through
36:16
stuff.
36:17
They will go through stuff.
36:18
If you're not going through it yourself, somebody else you know is going through it.
36:22
You're losing a child or lost a child.
36:24
I mean, devastating.
36:26
Right?
36:27
But what I hear is that, you know, you just have done things that have, cut through, a lot
36:35
of things to enable you to be able to, to give the gift of, a voice to these children that,
36:41
you know, that are losing their lives, which is what would you say to someone saying that is
36:47
going through a tough time right now, Mike, and they're thinking, I I don't know.
36:51
You know, I I don't know how I'm gonna I don't know if I'm gonna literally put one foot in
36:55
front of you know, of each other, whether it's a child listening or a teen or a parent, what
37:00
would you say to them?
37:02
Well, you know, we always, you know, on on part of our keywords, you know, and a few of the
37:07
flags is hope, and that there are hope in it.
37:10
There is hope out there, and and we've I've seen it with children who, you know, one makes
37:15
it and one doesn't, unfortunately, but the the the treatment is getting better.
37:21
You know, unfortunately, it's not getting fast enough Mhmm.
37:25
There is a treatment that are in that's in the states, you know, these T cell therapy and and
37:31
the stem cell research is really, really helping out with, with the child to cancer.
37:37
You know, but there are certain, certain, cancers that really haven't hasn't gone and
37:45
improved like osteosarcoma, which is one of the the tough cancers, the bone cancer for for
37:50
children, and you know, it's, you know, we have a few Niagara Falls that are that are going
37:54
through it.
37:55
And, it's really tough.
37:57
It really, really is, and but there are there is support.
38:01
And, you know, we there's different, I know, wellspring here in Niagara really helps to
38:06
families, Ronald McDonald's one of our cherries that we give to in in, in Hamilton is just
38:13
amazing.
38:13
You know, you know, you think of the, you know, the the burden, obviously, of having someone
38:18
sick, whether cancer, any illness, and and it's a child.
38:22
And, you know, now you gotta pay for parking, you gotta look for a place to stay because
38:27
there's always somebody gotta has to stay with filed at the hospital.
38:30
Yeah.
38:30
We're a little hot, the bed.
38:32
And so, you know, to give us some relief from the families where they can park for free
38:36
around McDonald's, and it just steps away from McMaster, and they stay for $13 a night, which
38:42
is Wow.
38:43
And they're they're not funded through government So it's up to, you know, myself,
38:48
which I thought it was a a a great, charity to give to.
38:52
And it's amazing.
38:53
And and I know so many children that have stayed there in their families and it really,
38:58
really, takes a burden off and especially, financially, you know,
39:04
So so, you know, the box run has now been around for a long time.
39:09
And for people, you know, wanting to connect or, you know, and you're you I feel remiss in
39:17
not knowing the entirety of your story.
39:19
What an amazing story, my
39:21
I could
39:21
be I've known you now for how long.
39:24
Mike lived down the street from my husband and I, like, 25 years ago, and, you know, he would
39:29
run-in my ex would attempt to run quite poorly with the Olympic boxer.
39:34
So I've known Mike a very long time, and I'm amazed that you'd, you know, I know you did big
39:38
things, but, you know, as an Olympian, that's phenomenal, obviously, and you've put Niagara
39:42
on the map.
39:43
But with this, like, wow, it just makes my heart, you know, just feel so much more
39:50
privileged to to have known you, but also think that here we here in Little Niagara has
39:54
somebody like you that has such a big, big heart to be able to give back and based on,
40:00
heater in your connection, right, like someone that
40:04
It all it all stems from heater and then meeting these kids.
40:07
And you know, so I I finished the first run 2012, and unfortunately, the tail wasn't there
40:12
at the end, but I did dip my leg in the Pacific Ocean.
40:15
And then, you know, Matteo passed away shortly after, which was, May 8th on 2013.
40:22
And then I made a promise to him a year to his anniversary of his passing that.
40:26
I would run the other way.
40:27
So I ended up, you know, since
40:28
Oh, wow.
40:29
Called, which was 94 minutes.
40:31
I was 94 days.
40:32
I kinda do something every 2 years.
40:34
And then, you know, 2 years later in 2016, myself, and, another counselor, Vic Peter
40:40
Angelo, and Mike D.
40:40
Cienzo and John Vretresca, we tempted to climb the mat or horn.
40:44
And then and then just the last couple months ago in 2018, did the box on El Camino, which
40:51
was just amazing trail in Spain and and, you know, I didn't know what I was gonna do, and
40:56
it's kinda last minute.
40:58
You know, so I I would run every day and dedicate the same to to a child and did it for
41:03
child to cancer awareness months.
41:05
Mhmm.
41:05
And I remember talking to my sister.
41:07
And I said, Diane, I said, I need I wanna put all these children that I'm gonna run for every
41:12
day starting September 1st December 30th.
41:14
And you know, I wonder if we're gonna have their well, we had 40 children.
41:18
Oh, wow.
41:18
There's no 40 children in the Niagara region that has been touched by cancer.
41:23
And, you know, it's it's crazy.
41:25
So we had to double up on a couple days, and but I gave all the flags to the children and
41:29
still have a few.
41:30
I have to give to the families, but the most important thing, I think, was just to tell the
41:34
kids stories every day to tell these kids.
41:38
Some can't tell because they have passed away or the parents don't wanna you know, it's tough
41:43
for them.
41:43
And the, you know, the only way they get through it sometimes is like, Lana Hill is they
41:49
have a legacy for Kelsey and they and they every day, they do something and and raising
41:54
money so to help other children.
41:56
But then there's there's children, like, Nick Roma.
41:59
And Nick Roma is gone.
42:01
I I actually know of Nick.
42:02
I know of Nick Roma through someone else, but, you know, I've heard his story.
42:07
Yes.
42:07
Yeah.
42:08
Nick's lost all his limbs.
42:09
Yes.
42:10
Yes.
42:10
People need to hear this story.
42:11
And and, you know, I've had a couple people, the parents, and you're saying, the one year
42:16
little girl, Brooklyn.
42:17
She goes, she wants to tell her story.
42:19
She's so young.
42:20
Tell her story and to do inspirational talks to people and and give other children hope
42:25
Well, absolutely.
42:26
It was so important
42:26
that we can't forget about these kids, who have passed away or the kids that that have beaten
42:31
cancer.
42:32
They need that people need to hear their stories.
42:34
And if and if I can help in that way and tell their story and tell they're able to tell
42:38
themselves, I'm more than happy to do that.
42:40
Oh, absolutely.
42:41
It's an amazing thing.
42:42
And then what they've gone through and what they've had to cope with and, you know, how
42:46
they stay positive, like you said.
42:48
Right?
42:48
Like, how how they mentally at whatever age they are, and so I know some of the ones can be
42:53
quite young, what they have to do to do their part, to do as pos be as positive as they can
42:58
be, even though the children, which is a big thing.
43:00
Right?
43:01
Yeah.
43:01
It's, it's unreal and you and you look at these these kids and I, you know, I go up and and and
43:07
I've sought seen some of the kids that run McDonald's house or McMaster, and I know some
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of them, and I talked to them.
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And, and they're so pot live.
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Unbelievable, they can they'll go and have they'll go through chemo treatment, and they'll
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come out and they'll have a smile on their face, and they're playing with the toy.
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And I was like, wow.
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Yeah.
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The power of the power of being in the moment as a child.
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Right?
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Oh, it
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just Yeah.
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Regardless of what's going on.
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Yeah.
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And, of course, you
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know, they don't know what healthy feels some of these children.
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They think Yeah.
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Feeling sick like that is healthy.
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Right.
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Do you think that's the owner?
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And, you know, I think, you know, I and I remember watching Mateo taking 40 pills at a
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time.
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And I'm just like, I'm crying about taking one little pill that hurts my stomach, and I'm just
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like, man, this this little warrior is just taking all these pills, and it's just, yep, I'm
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taking a Unbelievable.
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Really is.
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So, Mike, you know, I, I'm inspired and I, you know, for everybody listening, I want to know
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where they can go, where they can donate, and also for you speaking, to share the story.
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I mean, amazing, amazing stuff.
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And I feel like I, you know, didn't know enough of it, but I'm inspired now.
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And in any way, and I wanna say this out here that if any of those families ever need
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support, I'm here in Niagara, and I can support any of those families as a a registered family
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therapist or a couples therapist, pro bono.
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I will assist in any way.
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So if you ever come across that, that I will, through you, be able to do anything I can to
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assist because, obviously, it's a hard crushing thing to lose a child or to go through the
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stresses of being a couple or to, you know, when, even when the child passes away, to be
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able to reintegrate that family to law.
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So that's something I would hope that I could, you know, get back to you and, thanks
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so much.
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That that would be amazing.
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And, you know, that that is people go to go on after a child.
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And that's the worst thing in the world.
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I can't imagine anything worse than the world than losing a child.
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And it's, like, a normal life, like, okay.
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I mean, it's it's impossible.
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So the the support, needs to be there that we can, you know, even the mental part of it then.
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You know?
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Absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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So I'm available.
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So you you know how to get ahold of me.
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So tell people how they can get ahold of you if, you know, you need to speak more.
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I I'm gonna tell you.
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I'm I have to speak more, Mike.
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I'm telling you from the bottom of my heart.
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That you have to get the story out there.
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I'm, you know, I belong.
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I'm now a professional speaker in Canada, and I that this message that you are sharing needs to
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get out there, across Canada.
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And, even in, you know, Internationally, because I think it's an inspiration for so many
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people that would give up.
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Right?
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And, you know, whether it's cancer or whether it's going through a difficult time because of
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different things in our lives, that story to learn about resilience, which is what this is
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about resilience and connection.
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You made your friend put your shoes on because you knew that mentally, you're gonna go crazy
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if you did Get there.
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Right?
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Within my own mind.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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And then and then you get the positive because then on top of that, he's quit smoking.
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You see, So the positivity that you put out there in the world, you know, has come back and
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now you're helping all these, families and these children.
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I can imagine what it must do to a child that knows that you're running for them that day.
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Like, what they must be brimming to know that somebody out there is doing this for them and
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and then them wanting to tell the story that you're doing that for them.
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So
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It was a pleasure.
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It really was.
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And if anyone would like to to, to donate or get a hold of me, just go to boxrun, dot org
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and, if you'd like me to come and and speak, and I I would be more than happy to, to share
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my story and share the children's stories.
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Awesome.
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Well, Michael, it's, it's been amazing.
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I, feel privileged to have, spent this time because I know you and I see each other, like,
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in passing sometimes in our defaults.
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See you when you're at council meetings on on TV and stuff like that.
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That's about it, but I'll I'll make sure to try to reach out to you more.
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So for everybody listening, I I guess I'm struck, by I talk about being authentic, and I
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think Mike Mike has shown that you know, when you are truly connected to who you are and you
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connect to other people on a profound level, amazing things happen.
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And, this through the box run is an example of something like that, and a a legacy that you're
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leaving behind that nobody can ever ever take away.
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And This idea got birth in in Mike through a connection, and the importance of us being
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connected not just ourselves, based on whatever we're going through in the world, but also to
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others is the thing that affords us to be resilient.
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So, again, Mike, thanks so much for being here.
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And do reach out to Mike and the Bob So it's voxron.org.
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And if you're needing anything further from me, you can reach me at Roxanne, forward slash
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blueprint where you can download free course on how to be a bit more connected to yourself.
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Okay.
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So take care, and thanks, Mike.
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We'll talk soon.
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