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Bob Nightengale's trade market notes + injury updates across MLB · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: This season.
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Speaker 2: Bob Knight and Gale USA Today and ft Inside are
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Speaker 2: joining us right now. Bob, great to have you back
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Speaker 2: on here. And let's get right to the headliner, Trek
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Speaker 2: Skubele and a team that you might be hearing a
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Speaker 2: little bit more about than some expect, the Atlanta Braves.
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Speaker 2: What do you think are the chances that the Braves
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Speaker 2: and Alexanthopolis actually pushing up chips across the table to
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Speaker 2: convince Detroit.
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Speaker 3: I think think I let Jim a chance, and I
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Speaker 3: think they need him more than most teams.
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Speaker 4: Let's face that the Dinners don't need him, and they're
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Speaker 4: they're doing just quite well without him. They got, you know,
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Speaker 4: Glass Knuts coming back like Smell's coming back. The Yankees
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Speaker 4: they don't need him. They've got Max Free coming back.
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Speaker 4: You know, both teams be luxury. That way is wide open.
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Speaker 4: The Brewers keep kind of pooh pooing, yet like, let's see,
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Speaker 4: we don't really do that. I don't think the price
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Speaker 4: tag is going to be as high as people think,
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Speaker 4: so I think Atlanta kind of late lower the weeds
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Speaker 4: here and I have a good chance to a theay
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Speaker 4: to grab this guy. I think you put him on
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Speaker 4: the Atlanta's team. They got a chance to win.
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Speaker 3: It all.
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Speaker 5: Massive, But where do you feel like Atlanta would push
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Speaker 5: because of payroll quote restrictions, they would want to like
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Speaker 5: buy down some of that money and send more prospects.
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Speaker 5: Do you think they would send big league, big league
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Speaker 5: ready pieces to the Tigers.
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Speaker 3: And they got enough in the farm system.
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Speaker 4: I don't think it's you know required, you know, buying
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Speaker 4: down and they got plenty of money. They are well
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Speaker 4: below the lux your tax threshold anyway, and they make
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Speaker 4: a mint in the battery, so money should be no
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Speaker 4: problem to them. As much money as these guys make.
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Speaker 4: So no, I just think it's a matter of, Okay,
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Speaker 4: what prospects will that take? And let's face it, I mean,
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Speaker 4: if they're in the World Series all of a sudden,
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Speaker 4: you're making a ton of money, and uh, you know,
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Speaker 4: very unlikely they would sign him. But obviously, if Scooble's there,
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Speaker 4: got for a couple of months, then he's got to
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Speaker 4: read in an organization, whether he likes or not. Lives
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Speaker 4: in you know, Phoenix in the off season, you know,
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Speaker 4: they obviously Atlanta trains in Florida. But I think he
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Speaker 4: might open his eyes, like if they had any chance
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Speaker 4: to sign him, you know, uh, your better chances once
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Speaker 4: you have him for a couple months.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, so obviously that is a first off. Was going
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Speaker 6: on Bob long time.
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Speaker 7: Yeah you too.
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Speaker 6: So if this move was to happen, do you see
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Speaker 6: Atlanta as like the clear front runner right now or
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Speaker 6: do you expect the team that may be a dark
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Speaker 6: horse coming out of nowhere to say, hey, we're gonna
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Speaker 6: jump in on this.
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Speaker 3: I mean the team I love to see it is Milwaukee.
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Speaker 4: Imagine they had miss Rowski, you know, Harrison and scooball one, two, three.
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Speaker 4: I don't give them as good chance as anybody to
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Speaker 4: win the World Series. They was certainly a matchup with
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Speaker 4: the Dodgers. Uh, I take those three over any three.
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Speaker 4: You know, trio and baseball. I mean, obviously Philadelphia has
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Speaker 4: got a great trio. You know, the Yankees went healthy,
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Speaker 4: the Dodgers went healthy. Depend on snaw, but uh no,
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Speaker 4: I think either team walk or Atlanta.
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Speaker 3: Uh, you know what pushed them to the top.
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Speaker 4: Like I said, I'd love to see Milwaukee really go
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Speaker 4: after this thing, not just make the playoffs, but give
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Speaker 4: themselves a legitimate shot to get that World Series.
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Speaker 3: It's been a long time for those guys.
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Speaker 5: Wait, Bob, because AJ's not on today. Uh. They beat
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Speaker 5: the first place White Sox this weekend, so are the Tigers.
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Speaker 5: Where would you say your percentage because I'm not sure
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Speaker 5: who we had on the other day, but they have percentages.
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Speaker 5: What's the percentage chance the Tigers keep him?
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Speaker 4: I would say, Uh, you know that was a big
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Speaker 4: weekend series.
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Speaker 3: Uh, you know, knocking off the White Sox.
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Speaker 4: Well, only you know, seven and a half back and
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Speaker 4: they're still on buy back five and a half back
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Speaker 4: in the wild card race. They port a lot of
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Speaker 4: mainstreace team I think tour and two men in our payroll,
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Speaker 4: largest enfranchise history. I think, no matter what, they're going
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Speaker 4: to wait to the very end. I think the last
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Speaker 4: seventy two hours seeing are we in this.
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Speaker 3: Thing or not?
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Speaker 4: I remember the Tigers did that years ago with David Price,
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Speaker 4: and we've seen that more and more. The Angels didn't
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Speaker 4: make up their mind for good Otani. They were around
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Speaker 4: three and a half back in captain, so I think
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Speaker 4: the same thing here with Scooba. I also think you
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Speaker 4: know once they start talking to teams that you know
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Speaker 4: you're not gonna get a haul like at one, so noo,
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Speaker 4: you're gonna get some nice pieces back, but why not
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Speaker 4: go for it.
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Speaker 3: I think Tiger fans would would love it.
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Speaker 4: But they get to play good baseball between now when
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Speaker 4: at least in last week of July.
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Speaker 5: But we talk about a picture like Trek Scouble, every
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Speaker 5: extra start can help because we're not talking about teams
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Speaker 5: that are necessarily locked into braves right now. You talk
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Speaker 5: about them, Yeah, they've lost like four games in the
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Speaker 5: standings recently, there's still six up. But extra two starts
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Speaker 5: from Trek Scuoble is worth at least. I don't know,
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Speaker 5: like a fringe prospect.
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Speaker 4: I think the Tigers, though you used, don't want to
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Speaker 4: move too fast, and whether they get back in this
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Speaker 4: race and look at complete idiots if they dump them.
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Speaker 3: You know, the CCCU bath one is, you know, the
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Speaker 3: most famous.
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Speaker 4: They got him, I think in July seventh, and he
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Speaker 4: have him, you know, like you said, a good four
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Speaker 4: more starts and not five more starts in the month
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Speaker 4: of July, and it's a big thing. But just nobody
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Speaker 4: wants to move quickly, and I don't think the Tigers
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Speaker 4: can move quickly.
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Speaker 3: I think someone pointing out.
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Speaker 4: I forgot you get a Turk Schooble bubblehead Night sometime
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Speaker 4: before the All Star break.
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Speaker 3: So I don't think there's any way in the world
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Speaker 3: you can trade a.
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Speaker 4: School before the bibblehead Night without fans going ballistic and
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Speaker 4: throw those bibble heads back in the field.
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Speaker 5: Okay, please don't do that, fans just because Bob said
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Speaker 5: to do it. Don't do that. I don't think. I
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Speaker 5: don't think the Mets have a Freddy peralta bibblehead Night.
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Speaker 5: But his recent pitching fallings failings something that will not
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Speaker 5: only keep him in New York because nobody want to
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Speaker 5: trade for him, or just completely diminish the value that
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Speaker 5: the Mets could get for Freddie p.
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Speaker 4: Well, there's no califing opera on. I think they're gonna
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Speaker 4: have no choice but but to trade him and uh
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Speaker 4: and we'll see. I think the uh. You know, he's
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Speaker 4: pretty much the same pitcher as he was in Milwaukee.
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Speaker 4: I mean, he's not pitching lights out, but it wasn't
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Speaker 4: like he was throwing complete games of Milwaukee either. He
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Speaker 4: is going five innings, six things at a time. I
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Speaker 4: answer when Milwaukee said, you know what, we can we
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Speaker 4: can let him go and trade him. Let's trade him
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Speaker 4: at the high value and wait until they got their price.
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Speaker 4: I mean a heck of a deal, you know with
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Speaker 4: the Mets. You know, Milwaukee count of reminds me of
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Speaker 4: Tampa Bay. You don't want to do with these guys
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Speaker 4: because they're not the same players when they leave those
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Speaker 4: two teams. Uh, but no, I think they're gonna have
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Speaker 4: no choice but to trade Pralota and I'm not sure
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Speaker 4: what you're gonna get. I mean, he's the front line
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Speaker 4: starter who's also star is only gonna give you, you know,
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Speaker 4: six innings Max, a lot of nights five.
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Speaker 5: But what you said you said in no qualifying offer,
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Speaker 5: you're saying because he gets true, if he were to
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Speaker 5: get traded, no qualifying offer would be attached to him.
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Speaker 5: But if he doesn't get traded, are you saying the
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Speaker 5: METS there's a chance they possibly do extend him a
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Speaker 5: qualifying offer.
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Speaker 4: I think they would extend a qualifying offer. I do Eric,
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Speaker 4: but they try to sign him in the spring and
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Speaker 4: weren't close at all. Remember if he came out publicly
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Speaker 4: and sit he wants a seven year, eight year contract
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Speaker 4: and then David Stearns doesn't operate that way. So I'd
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Speaker 4: be surprised when he turns to New York. Uh, you know,
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Speaker 4: I think they'd give a qualifying offer. But then again,
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Speaker 4: with the CBA negotiations, you know, will there even be
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Speaker 4: qualifying offers? Remember last time they had a CBA talks,
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Speaker 4: they said we'll have an international draft and we'll get
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Speaker 4: rid of the qualifying offer and some agents, which they
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Speaker 4: had done it. So I'd be surprised at all it
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Speaker 4: does even a qualifying offer he'd beginning in twenty twenty seven.
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Speaker 7: All right, I got a question for you, Bob.
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Speaker 6: As we sit here and we're expecting, you know, Freddy
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Speaker 6: to be traded, and and we're talking teams that are
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Speaker 6: in the mix, and obviously his year hasn't gone expected,
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Speaker 6: would you expect teams that are in like that wild
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Speaker 6: card to be more aggressive And would you see a team,
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Speaker 6: even with the struggles, possibly getting them for like maybe
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Speaker 6: bullpen help if he could be like a long relief.
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Speaker 7: Obviously we know how to playoffs and stuff.
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Speaker 1: Go.
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Speaker 4: I don't think he'd be a bullpen help, but I
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Speaker 4: agree with you John, there might be more to the
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Speaker 4: teams trying to qualify for the playoffs. I mean, when
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Speaker 4: he cracked Philly's top three. No Yankees, no, you know,
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Speaker 4: maybe not even the Brewers. You know, maybe the number
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Speaker 4: three guy. But I think since he's not that you know,
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Speaker 4: Ace or number two guy, he'd by falling the teams
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Speaker 4: that hey, we're trying to make the playoffs here. You know, Hey, Detroit,
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Speaker 4: you know, decides to keep Scooball might not go after
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Speaker 4: a par Alta and say, you know what if we
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Speaker 4: get pro Alta with school ball, then we got a
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Speaker 4: chance to make a playoff run and do something special.
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Speaker 5: I would love to see. I would love to see
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Speaker 5: Freddy Parolta go back to the Brewers. That would be
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Speaker 5: tremendous traded from the team and back to him. But
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Speaker 5: I've got I got to go to a team that
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Speaker 5: doesn't want to trade anybody. Per your report, Arnie Moreno
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Speaker 5: is reluctant or he doesn't want to trade Soriano, Debtmers,
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Speaker 5: Joe Adell. There are big three pieces that could bring
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Speaker 5: back a significant hall.
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Speaker 3: He really doesn't want to at all.
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Speaker 4: When you think about it, det I mean, he's pitching
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Speaker 4: lights out right now, He's got two years of control,
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Speaker 4: and I think Ardi Morino is saying, way, man, now,
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Speaker 4: these are the type of guys we want.
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Speaker 3: If he was a free agent in the year, yeah,
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Speaker 3: go ahead.
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Speaker 4: Uh, pre agent for next year maybe, but not two
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Speaker 4: more years of control. So he wants to build around
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Speaker 4: Soriano and Dept. Meers even at Dell, even though he's
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Speaker 4: a free agent after next year.
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Speaker 3: Uh, you know, and so hold on to him. Maybe
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Speaker 3: things change. But yeah, they would get a haul for Debtmers.
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Speaker 3: And I asked around. I said, who will get more
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Speaker 3: in a trade? Dept.
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Speaker 4: Meers or Scoobo, And everybody says definitely Debtmers just because
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Speaker 4: you have the two and a half years left.
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Speaker 5: Control is huge. Matt Chapman. You reported about the Giants
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Speaker 5: hopeful they could trade Chapman, but you're also thrown in there,
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Speaker 5: Luisa Rise and Robbie Ray. Is it more likely just
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Speaker 5: because of their contracts that those guys or is it
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Speaker 5: more likely that Chapman because he's the most valuable piece
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Speaker 5: of those three that you mentioned?
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Speaker 4: Well, I think you know, Ray is definitely gone. You know,
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Speaker 4: he's a free agent in the year, you know, not like, uh,
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Speaker 4: he's insured to go back there.
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Speaker 3: Arise. I think would love to stay put. But he's
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Speaker 3: got value.
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Speaker 4: He's a good free agent signing, a great free agent
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Speaker 4: signing for the Giants, so he's got value. I think
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Speaker 4: those two they know and they're gone anyway, they're gonna
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Speaker 4: be free agents. So the big three money guys, they
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Speaker 4: realize that Chapman is the easiest guy of the three
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Speaker 4: to trade. I think impossible now with Devers, impossible with
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Speaker 4: a Damis then have to eat so much money in
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Speaker 4: both those guys where Chapman and you're able to move him,
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Speaker 4: you know, without a eating much salary at all. But
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Speaker 4: you know, he's had a strong last month and I
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Speaker 4: think people love his reputation personality as a gamer and grinder, that.
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Speaker 3: Sort of thing.
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Speaker 4: So I think they think it's easier to move Chapman.
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Speaker 4: That'd be a nice one hundred million dollars coming off
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Speaker 4: the books.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: I play with Chappie in Oakland a little bit of time,
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Speaker 6: so seeing his name pop up, obviously, I know he
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Speaker 6: adds some value. And when I saw that, do you
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Speaker 6: see any teams that are real like front runners, that
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Speaker 6: are that he would really make sense for right now?
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Speaker 1: No?
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Speaker 4: I mean you would think if Boston was in the
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Speaker 4: race to be Boston, unless you know, they make a
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Speaker 4: trade and say you know what, we want to get
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Speaker 4: a Chapman for the future, that sort of thing. Now
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Speaker 4: he does have a no trade clause, so he can
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Speaker 4: pick and choose where he wants to go. Uh so
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Speaker 4: we'll see. I mean, so many people need a right
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Speaker 4: hand of bat. I mean, the Philadelphia Phillies would love him.
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Speaker 4: But you know, as you guys know, night and day,
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Speaker 4: playing from sim and Francisco compared to Philadelphia, you gotta
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Speaker 4: be ready to embrace that. I mean, aunt think that's
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Speaker 4: a tougher place to play in baseball than Philadelphia.
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Speaker 3: And some guys love it.
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Speaker 4: Some guys embrace I like Bryce Harper, and some guys
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Speaker 4: melt down from.
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Speaker 7: It experience that I love.
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Speaker 5: I loved it.
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Speaker 3: You love it?
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Speaker 7: I no, I did, I literally did. Yeah, you loved it.
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Speaker 3: There was no doubt.
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Speaker 5: It's just you don't play well in Philly. You're not
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Speaker 5: going home going. I don't understand why Philly doesn't like
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Speaker 5: my like me. No, you don't like yourself. Your kids
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Speaker 5: don't even really like you when you don't play well.
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Speaker 7: So it's.
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Speaker 3: I remember brace Harper was covered his first week of games.
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Speaker 4: You know, times a big contract, you're being philled up,
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Speaker 4: just going crazy I think it was Game four where
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Speaker 4: he started getting booed heavily.
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Speaker 3: It took it to only four games for him. Get
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Speaker 3: that Philly reaction.
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Speaker 5: As AJ says, they don't boo nobody's so if you are,
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Speaker 5: if you're a somebody, they're gonna boo you at home.
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Speaker 5: They're gonna boo you on the road because they have
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Speaker 5: high expectations. Bob, I want to go to the Astros.
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Speaker 5: The Astros said, no way, Jose, don't even ask us,
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Speaker 5: because we're buying at the deadline.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, teams have been quired and say, hey, you're gonna move.
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Speaker 4: Some of these guys were interested, and they said no. Hey,
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Speaker 4: you know, hey, look at the standings right now, they're
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Speaker 4: just three games back in the division, two games back.
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Speaker 3: In the wild card. I mean the furthest team back
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Speaker 3: is the Angels at seven and a half. The American
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Speaker 3: League is so down, like everybody's in it.
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Speaker 4: And you know, Jim Crane's as aggressive as an owner
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Speaker 4: as there is out there, and he said, as long
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Speaker 4: as I own a team, there will be no rebuild.
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Speaker 3: So they're going after this thing.
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Speaker 4: I think they say, you know what, if no one's
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Speaker 4: going to take the West, we'll go ahead and take it,
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Speaker 4: and they're getting guys coming back, you know, from the
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Speaker 4: injury list. So you know you mentioned talking about alb
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Speaker 4: Brazia for the home run derby. You know, scouts will
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Speaker 4: tell you they haven't seen a hitter this PUREBA hitter.
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Speaker 3: Since Barry Bonds.
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Speaker 4: They think he's that great and White waste time with
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Speaker 4: Alvarez when he can carry you by himself.
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Speaker 5: When you talk to these teams about and they make
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Speaker 5: comment or you hear these comments about no way, Jose,
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Speaker 5: do you feel like the teams are being intelligent when
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Speaker 5: they say stuff like that, because throughout this entire year
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Speaker 5: we've looked at the Astros and said they're a little short.
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Speaker 5: Even at the end of spring training. You're like, all right,
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Speaker 5: I get it, Hunter Brown's really good and Spencerrighetti could
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Speaker 5: be good, but they just looked like a team that
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Speaker 5: was short the whole time. Do you think that front
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Speaker 5: office is sitting there going, I get it, we're not
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Speaker 5: gonna rebuild, but man, if we could get something for
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Speaker 5: Jemmy Pana, that would be something that could really help
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Speaker 5: us not delve super into the free agent market, which
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Speaker 5: we didn't last season.
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Speaker 4: Right, But then that's you know they're saying, Okay, then
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Speaker 4: how about next year too? You still got him for
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Speaker 4: another year after this. I think ten teams have inquired
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Speaker 4: already about him and they have all been said, you know, no,
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Speaker 4: not now, maybe not not ever. I think too they
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Speaker 4: realize that, hey, they draw well, they probably are thirty
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Speaker 4: thousand fans a game.
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Speaker 3: You buy a season ticket, you buy it for the
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Speaker 3: eighty one home games.
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Speaker 4: You know, I'm giving a refund back because you're waving
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Speaker 4: a white flag at the trade down line.
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Speaker 3: So I think they take all that in effect.
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Speaker 4: I think they, you know, very cognizant of the fans
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Speaker 4: support pr aspect, and they know that fans would go
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Speaker 4: ballistic there if they just give up, particular when that
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Speaker 4: race is so wide open.
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Speaker 6: All right, I know we just talked Jordan Alvarez with
17:29
Speaker 6: the Astros, and earlier we talked about him not participating
17:33
Speaker 6: in the home run derby. Uh well what about Mike
17:35
Speaker 6: Trout said he would be interested, if you know, invited.
17:39
Speaker 6: Do you think that's a real possibility. Would have been
17:41
Speaker 6: forty minutes from where he's from.
17:44
Speaker 4: I think it is. Yeah, they were in Phoenix last
17:47
Speaker 4: week an ast route. I said it is the last
17:50
Speaker 4: time you've done the Horme Run derby. He goes to
17:52
Speaker 4: never half and that was kind of stunned by that. Said, really,
17:54
Speaker 4: I said, how about this time being your hometown. He goes,
17:57
Speaker 4: I would definitely consider it.
17:58
Speaker 7: He goes.
17:59
Speaker 4: I bomb asked, consider it. I'm on the if I'm
18:02
Speaker 4: my MLB, I don't hesitate. I go right to route
18:05
Speaker 4: and say, we want you in the derby. I think
18:07
Speaker 4: it would be fantastic, his first one, probably his last
18:10
Speaker 4: one in his hometown. I think the fans would eat
18:13
Speaker 4: it up. So I think fans would better seat as
18:17
Speaker 4: great as Alba is. I think the fans in Philadelphia
18:20
Speaker 4: much ratter say of Mike Croud in it than just
18:22
Speaker 4: about anybody except for our homegrown guy.
18:24
Speaker 3: It's like Harper, I just.
18:26
Speaker 7: Need right, yeah right, didn't didn't he? Yeah? I just
18:31
Speaker 7: needed to go.
18:32
Speaker 6: I just thought about that. But I was like, if
18:33
Speaker 6: he can be healthy, that would be pretty cool.
18:36
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I don't think he'd be an the Angel
18:38
Speaker 3: of this that long.
18:38
Speaker 4: I mean, he played that whole game before he got
18:40
Speaker 4: put on, so it's not gonna be a long lasting thing.
18:44
Speaker 4: I remember when the Angels went back to Philadelphia the
18:46
Speaker 4: first time. His entire town came out. I think he
18:49
Speaker 4: had fifteen buses from Millville. It's just a forty minute
18:52
Speaker 4: drive from his house. They had the you know, the
18:54
Speaker 4: marching band in the field. The mayor from Millville was
18:57
Speaker 4: in the first pitch, and it really younger the Philly
18:59
Speaker 4: players like, what and now this is our home game,
19:01
Speaker 4: not Mike trout home game. And he was laughing about
19:03
Speaker 4: that the other day too, but they love Mike Trout
19:06
Speaker 4: back East.
19:08
Speaker 5: I was going to say, there'd be so many people
19:09
Speaker 5: ever be so piss because it's gonna be Bryce Harper,
19:12
Speaker 5: Kyle Schwarber and essentially a Philly in Mike Trout. But hey,
19:16
Speaker 5: you know what, it's an exhibition. Get everybody out there.
19:20
Speaker 5: That is what everybody wants to see, right Bob.
19:23
Speaker 4: Oh, Absolutely, especially for a guy who's going to the Hall
19:25
Speaker 4: of Fame one day. He's had some rough years at
19:28
Speaker 4: the last four or five years with injuries. Just to
19:31
Speaker 4: see him, I mean, he hasn't plenty of All Star games.
19:33
Speaker 4: That's twenty nineteen, so that'll be special enough. But to
19:37
Speaker 4: him to be in the derby, I think he might
19:39
Speaker 4: be the crowd favorite. So you know what, let's see
19:42
Speaker 4: something special. We've never seen before Mike Trout winning a
19:45
Speaker 4: home run derby. He's done everything else in the game,
19:47
Speaker 4: Why not that.
19:49
Speaker 3: He needs some more hardware for sure?
19:51
Speaker 5: Somebody that might be changing course the Red Sox. Can
19:54
Speaker 5: you explain a little bit more into like, hey, you
19:57
Speaker 5: know what Red Sox scouts are now being use a
20:00
Speaker 5: little bit more. Does this have anything to do with
20:02
Speaker 5: the fact that thiugh Epstein thinks scouting is actually important
20:07
Speaker 5: and not just looking at numbers on a computer.
20:10
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of a before there was a thing
20:13
Speaker 4: where they want didn't want scouts to take more than
20:15
Speaker 4: one trip a month, just burke the cost savings and
20:17
Speaker 4: flying out now all of a sudden this past week
20:20
Speaker 4: and saying, hey, let's go see.
20:21
Speaker 3: Some major league games.
20:23
Speaker 4: Uh, you know, I think Craig Bruslow realizes, Hey, his
20:26
Speaker 4: time could be coming near.
20:28
Speaker 3: There's a lot of a pressure on him. The scouts.
20:32
Speaker 4: Let's start going back to what they did they Dave
20:34
Speaker 4: Dobrowski loves scouts, leaves and scouts.
20:37
Speaker 3: They won a World Series with him that one in
20:39
Speaker 3: one sense.
20:40
Speaker 4: So uh, I think maybe Craig Bruslow was saying, let's
20:43
Speaker 4: throw these guys out there.
20:44
Speaker 3: I mean some of the top scouts.
20:46
Speaker 4: I mean, the top teams in baseball all have the
20:49
Speaker 4: most scouts, whether it's Tampa Bay, you know, the Dodgers,
20:53
Speaker 4: you know the Yankees. Uh, the cant see royal sex
20:56
Speaker 4: of off scouts, phillies in Uh.
20:58
Speaker 3: You know they're about it.
20:59
Speaker 4: You know, you can still use your analytics, but let's
21:01
Speaker 4: have some rise on these players too, and those guys
21:04
Speaker 4: that go to the games gets them inside information.
21:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, it always seems like when some extreme measure holds,
21:11
Speaker 2: the team usually corrects itself and starts to veer back
21:14
Speaker 2: to more of a middle path. Here, just getting rid
21:16
Speaker 2: of that whole department. It would be crazy while we're
21:20
Speaker 2: on this team. Last one for you, Bob Sunny Gray.
21:23
Speaker 2: It sounds like he already publicly said this weekend that
21:26
Speaker 2: he would be open to a trade.
21:28
Speaker 1: And I know that a.
21:29
Speaker 2: Lot of his money is already being eaten up by
21:30
Speaker 2: the Cardinals. So this could be a guy that is
21:33
Speaker 2: heavily coveted around the trade deadline if the Red Sox
21:36
Speaker 2: decide to sell. We've talked about or Aldis Chapman. It
21:39
Speaker 2: doesn't seem like there are a ton of guys that
21:41
Speaker 2: they would have. Maybe a bullpen arm or two like
21:43
Speaker 2: Chapman and Whitlock Sonny Gray. I don't think they trade
21:46
Speaker 2: Wilson Contrares because they have them for next year too.
21:48
Speaker 2: But your thoughts on the Red Sox and how this
21:50
Speaker 2: Sonny Gray kind of public open to things changes anything.
21:55
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it'd be you know, great for Gray too,
21:58
Speaker 4: because I think you know him, to pitch back in
22:00
Speaker 4: the in the playoffs I think would mean a lot
22:02
Speaker 4: to him. I'm sure he'd love to get traded back
22:04
Speaker 4: to Saint Louis for that matter.
22:06
Speaker 3: I think you know obviously have don no train.
22:08
Speaker 4: I think he would love to go to Atlanta, and
22:10
Speaker 4: I think it'd fit right in perfectly with that whole
22:13
Speaker 4: clubhouse culture everything else. I think Sonny Gray would be
22:16
Speaker 4: very comfortable there. So I might have picked one spot,
22:19
Speaker 4: you know. I know we talked about school before, but
22:21
Speaker 4: how about Sunny Gray? And I don't think it would
22:23
Speaker 4: cost that much to get him, And obviously those teams
22:26
Speaker 4: have done a lot of deals before. I'm sure Boston
22:29
Speaker 4: you know, will love to say we already gave you
22:31
Speaker 4: Chris Hill, you know, how about Sunny Gray, but we
22:33
Speaker 4: need some more back in return. This time He's got it.
22:36
Speaker 4: You got to complete us once. Let's see what we
22:38
Speaker 4: can make up for it.
22:39
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh.
22:40
Speaker 2: And he's from Tennessee by the way, so yes, I
22:42
Speaker 2: mean that's Braves country for all intense purposes and went
22:45
Speaker 2: to Vanderbilt and all that. But that would be funny
22:47
Speaker 2: if you know the Braves are in the playoffs and
22:49
Speaker 2: the rotation is just guys that the Red Sox gave
22:51
Speaker 2: them for not much.
22:53
Speaker 1: So tough times up in Boston, Bob, good stuff. Great
22:58
Speaker 1: to catch up with you.
22:58
Speaker 2: As always, we really appreciate Bob's note column is out
23:02
Speaker 2: from yesterday.
23:03
Speaker 1: There's much more that you can dive into there. Talk
23:05
Speaker 1: to you soon, Bob.
23:06
Speaker 3: All right, my pleasure. Thank good guys.
23:11
Speaker 2: Oh I love starting injuries. Suck with a return Kratz.
23:14
Speaker 2: That's what I like. I look for it. We dig deep.
23:17
Speaker 2: We found one. Shane Bieber's coming back. Now, it was
23:20
Speaker 2: supposed to be tonight. They had ran over the week
23:22
Speaker 2: in the Pushman Back Night, so it's still in cease
23:24
Speaker 2: Monday night and then Bieber returns for the Blue Jays Tuesday.
23:28
Speaker 1: There's a few.
23:29
Speaker 2: Teams that you watch and they get off to slow
23:31
Speaker 2: starts and you're not worried about them. This is one
23:33
Speaker 2: for me, Kratz. They were pretty slow starting last year.
23:36
Speaker 2: They dealt with many more arm injuries this year. I
23:39
Speaker 2: think Vladdie's gonna eventually start swinging the bat well. But
23:42
Speaker 2: Bieber helps, and you know what, if anything with what
23:45
Speaker 2: he's dealt with in his career, you get half a
23:47
Speaker 2: season of Bieber, it's probably going to be a fresher Beaber.
23:51
Speaker 5: I hope that this Biaber is not the every other
23:54
Speaker 5: start Bieber that we had last year, and I think
23:56
Speaker 5: that's why they took it as long as they did.
23:59
Speaker 5: It wasn't even throwing spring training. So if he's back
24:02
Speaker 5: and he can be the Bieber consistent, you know, three
24:05
Speaker 5: out of four starts consistent, that would be massive for
24:09
Speaker 5: this team that still needs to figure out how to
24:10
Speaker 5: score runs.
24:12
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't disagree.
24:15
Speaker 6: Obviously, injuries suck, but Cratzy obviously playing the game. We
24:19
Speaker 6: all know guys played through injuries, and you mentioned in
24:23
Speaker 6: him taking a little bit more time to come back.
24:25
Speaker 7: I'm with you.
24:25
Speaker 6: Maybe that was just a situation where he's like Man
24:28
Speaker 6: World Series last year, Game seven, like, hey, if we
24:31
Speaker 6: plan on getting back there, I got to make sure
24:32
Speaker 6: I'm completely good to not be that every other day
24:34
Speaker 6: or every other star guy. So as soon as you
24:36
Speaker 6: said that, that was the first thing that popped in
24:38
Speaker 6: my head was, you know, making sure every precaution to
24:40
Speaker 6: make sure that when he goes out there, you know
24:42
Speaker 6: that he's good to go.
24:44
Speaker 2: You know, you know what else helps guys having a
24:46
Speaker 2: five man rotation. I mean, I know on your show
24:49
Speaker 2: Bucco Territory, Josh, you guys covered a lot with with
24:53
Speaker 2: the surplus that they had and how that created a
24:56
Speaker 2: little bit of drama.
24:57
Speaker 1: Most teams have the.
24:58
Speaker 2: Opposite effect, where there's a bullpen game every fifth or
25:02
Speaker 2: sixth day. So that's what the Blue Jays have been
25:03
Speaker 2: rolling with, right because they've had and almost all of
25:06
Speaker 2: their guys have been on the IL at some point.
25:08
Speaker 2: But right now, you know, they're rolling with cease. Now
25:12
Speaker 2: Bieber comes back and that's going to give him a fifth.
25:15
Speaker 2: Patrick Corbin who started off well but now hasn't been
25:18
Speaker 2: pitching as well lately. Treya Savage is there, Kevin Gossman
25:22
Speaker 2: is there, So now they've got five. Before that, you're
25:24
Speaker 2: rolling with four and then you're exhausting the bullpen at
25:26
Speaker 2: least once a week, so that in general to me
25:29
Speaker 2: often helps, right, we know how that'll kind of help
25:32
Speaker 2: to solidify things and not have guys all thinking they're
25:35
Speaker 2: going to have to unload every you know, whatever amount
25:38
Speaker 2: of games.
25:40
Speaker 5: That's yeah, that's where I'm worried. I'm worried. I'm worried
25:42
Speaker 5: about the the bullpen for this team because they were
25:45
Speaker 5: running through this stretch of three times through rotation because
25:49
Speaker 5: Dylan Cees doesn't go deep because Bieber's I'm assuming not
25:52
Speaker 5: going to be able to go that deep, and they
25:55
Speaker 5: just found out this weekend Trey Savage goes through. They
25:58
Speaker 5: tried to push them a fourth time through which he's
26:00
Speaker 5: ever done. It just feels like they have to have
26:04
Speaker 5: reinforcements for that bullpen because this rotation besides Gosman doesn't.
26:10
Speaker 7: Really go that deep.
26:13
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you spoke it right there, and that's
26:17
Speaker 6: why the flip of the coin of you know, if Bieber,
26:20
Speaker 6: you don't really want him coming back and feeling like
26:22
Speaker 6: he's got to go seven eight at one hundred plus pitches,
26:25
Speaker 6: But at the same time, you need him to be
26:27
Speaker 6: healthy to give that bullpen a blow because those guys,
26:30
Speaker 6: as you mentioned, as you mentioned have been pretty text.
26:34
Speaker 2: So Bieber had Tommy John surgery in April of twenty
26:38
Speaker 2: twenty four, right, and the injury officially has been called
26:42
Speaker 2: elbow inflammation for him, which has kept him out for
26:45
Speaker 2: you know, a few months so far this season. If
26:48
Speaker 2: you actually add up his starts at the beginning of
26:50
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, it's nine starts from twenty four through now, right,
26:55
Speaker 2: because you missed twenty four. He came back pretty late
26:58
Speaker 2: in twenty five, then pitched in the playoffs. I'm talking
27:00
Speaker 2: about nine regular season starts and now he's about to
27:03
Speaker 2: make his debut.
27:04
Speaker 1: So he has not pitched much.
27:05
Speaker 2: And this was a big thing Kratz we talked about
27:07
Speaker 2: in the offseason when he opted back in and he
27:10
Speaker 2: loves Toronto, but also he's still been dealing with things.
27:14
Speaker 2: You know, not everybody bounces back completely from Tommy John
27:17
Speaker 2: surgery ever, or at least not the way that they
27:19
Speaker 2: used to. Look, we're seeing that with Spencer Strider right
27:21
Speaker 2: now for sure. With Atlanta.
27:24
Speaker 5: Yeah, he can't get right. And Bieber knew this. No
27:27
Speaker 5: way anybody opts in just because they loved the culture,
27:31
Speaker 5: like he knew this, And I think it's a smart
27:33
Speaker 5: move be healthy for half the year, and the Blue
27:36
Speaker 5: Jays built the or tried to build their rotation to
27:39
Speaker 5: mimic that he had no attempt to make it back
27:42
Speaker 5: in spring training because I don't think the.
27:44
Speaker 3: Blue Jays needed that.
27:45
Speaker 5: And here they are, they're in striking distance and now
27:48
Speaker 5: they need to solidify a solid wildcard spot.
27:53
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Speaker 1: Let's forge a few others.
28:54
Speaker 6: Oh, go ahead, Josh, yet No, I was just going
28:55
Speaker 6: to say for him familiarity or to organization dealing with injury.
28:59
Speaker 7: He doesn't have to go to a new team. They
29:00
Speaker 7: already know where he's at.
29:01
Speaker 6: So, like you said, it's not necessarily to city of Culture.
29:04
Speaker 6: But if I'm going to take some time out, let
29:06
Speaker 6: me do it with a train of staff that has
29:07
Speaker 6: already been with me.
29:09
Speaker 7: Mm hmm.
29:09
Speaker 2: Hey, you could make the same case for Justin Berlander
29:12
Speaker 2: kicking it back old school with the Tigers. But he
29:14
Speaker 2: hasn't pitched yet, and we were about to see him.
29:17
Speaker 2: We thought we were going to see him this weekend,
29:18
Speaker 2: and he got a setback and it's going to be weeks.
29:21
Speaker 2: So that's the next one we'll hit here. He was scratched.
29:23
Speaker 2: He was supposed to pitch on Sunday. It's a left
29:25
Speaker 2: hamstring injury that was after he threw a bullpen on Wednesday,
29:30
Speaker 2: And yeah, they're saying weeks and the quote here from him,
29:34
Speaker 2: of course, is depressing if you're you know, a player
29:36
Speaker 2: that's trying to get back on the field and really
29:39
Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame player trying to get back on
29:40
Speaker 2: the field and at least do one more season. Here
29:43
Speaker 2: he said, quote, I've always said I want to play
29:45
Speaker 2: until the wheels fall off, and I don't know, maybe
29:48
Speaker 2: they are falling off, So Josh, you get to that
29:52
Speaker 2: point in your career where Also, because he's had trouble
29:55
Speaker 2: staying on the field, he's shown us flashes. The next
29:58
Speaker 2: offseason here, chances that he gets a major league deal
30:02
Speaker 2: start to get pretty low unless he goes off in
30:04
Speaker 2: the second half when he comes back. But yeah, it's
30:08
Speaker 2: been tough to keep him on the field.
30:09
Speaker 7: Now, Yeah, I mean that's that's the nature of the sport.
30:12
Speaker 6: And I think anybody that plays this game you wish
30:16
Speaker 6: you could play to the wills fall off, because it's
30:18
Speaker 6: much you'd much rather, you know, take the jersey off
30:20
Speaker 6: yourself than somebody having to take it off for you.
30:22
Speaker 7: You only get to play this game for you know,
30:24
Speaker 7: as long as you.
30:25
Speaker 6: Can and you know, a lot of that comes with acknowledgment,
30:28
Speaker 6: and he said maybe they are falling off.
30:30
Speaker 7: He didn't say they are, but he's acknowledging that.
30:32
Speaker 6: You know, his body's not what it once was, and
30:36
Speaker 6: you know, sometimes you weigh the risk versus reward.
30:39
Speaker 7: Is it really worth it?
30:39
Speaker 6: And as you mentioned, he hasn't started this year. You know, yes,
30:43
Speaker 6: it's sad to hear, you know, a guy going through
30:45
Speaker 6: that because like man, we know what he is on
30:48
Speaker 6: the mound when he's healthy, and what he's been for
30:50
Speaker 6: the game for a long time, but you don't hearing
30:52
Speaker 6: that is also a thing where he's coming to the
30:54
Speaker 6: realization of you know, I got to listen to my body,
30:57
Speaker 6: and you know he's doing everything he can to make
30:59
Speaker 6: it as anybody would, but you know, sometimes your body's
31:02
Speaker 6: gonna let you know.
31:03
Speaker 7: And you know, I hope to see him back.
31:05
Speaker 6: I won't say that he can't make it back, because
31:07
Speaker 6: none of us really know, but we also know that
31:09
Speaker 6: it's going to be tougher. Obviously, the older that you get,
31:11
Speaker 6: the more warran tear that you put on your body.
31:14
Speaker 5: I don't want to hear it. I don't want to
31:16
Speaker 5: hear it. I don't want to hear any of that
31:17
Speaker 5: from Verlander. No, the wheels aren't falling off. You're going
31:20
Speaker 5: to be back. We need to see you back in
31:22
Speaker 5: your last year here. But I need to know Jay, Hey,
31:26
Speaker 5: did you did you run one of his no hitters
31:29
Speaker 5: in like the eighth or ninth inning?
31:31
Speaker 7: Oh? Man, it was the ninth inning with two outs.
31:33
Speaker 7: I believe he.
31:34
Speaker 6: Threw me six straight sliders I swung. I swung it
31:37
Speaker 6: the first two. They was fifty four foot but you
31:40
Speaker 6: know he was going for the no hitter. But yeah,
31:44
Speaker 6: so I've had my battles with Verlander. Got nothing but
31:47
Speaker 6: respect for you know, facing them. But uh, that's why
31:49
Speaker 6: I was like, you know, to hear a guy like
31:51
Speaker 6: that be realistic, is like he you heard me say,
31:55
Speaker 6: He didn't say he said maybe you know, so there's
31:58
Speaker 6: a little bit of that thought. But at the same time,
32:00
Speaker 6: you know, I think everybody's just like man, if you
32:03
Speaker 6: can finish strong and just you know, as you said,
32:06
Speaker 6: being able to be back in Detroit. But yeah, yeah,
32:08
Speaker 6: I got them. I'm sure Detroit didn't really enjoy that,
32:10
Speaker 6: neither did he. But you know I was able to
32:13
Speaker 6: break one up.
32:14
Speaker 5: Wait, wait, you can't you yeah, I need you to
32:18
Speaker 5: I need you to answer this. Jay. Hey, if you
32:20
Speaker 5: leave a shred of doubt in your mind that maybe
32:23
Speaker 5: you ain't making it back, how are you going to
32:25
Speaker 5: make it back? You can't do that at twenty three,
32:26
Speaker 5: let alone forty three.
32:28
Speaker 7: For Verlander, Hey, I can't speak for him.
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Speaker 6: Maybe that's his way of telling everybody else to read
32:34
Speaker 6: between the lines. You know, I can't speak for him
32:38
Speaker 6: because me, I spent a lot of time on the
32:41
Speaker 6: inter List.
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Speaker 7: I've had surgeries.
32:42
Speaker 6: I had to make my way back, and I'll be honest,
32:44
Speaker 6: not once did I ever say that I wasn't gonna
32:46
Speaker 6: make it back. There were some times that was really hard.
32:49
Speaker 6: But you know, I also wasn't how old is Verlander
32:53
Speaker 6: forty three? I wasn't forty three at the time, you know,
32:57
Speaker 6: So just just being honest, you know, forty three as
33:00
Speaker 6: opposed to thirty three, thirty four to thirty five. Having
33:03
Speaker 6: surgery is a little different. But I mean you're talking
33:06
Speaker 6: about a picture. That's all he does is pitch, you know.
33:09
Speaker 6: So I get it though. If I'm making my way back,
33:12
Speaker 6: there's no way I'm saying I'm maybe making it back.
33:14
Speaker 6: But at the same time, I think you do have
33:15
Speaker 6: to be realistic, and maybe that was just him having
33:18
Speaker 6: an out of body moment, not really realizing what he
33:20
Speaker 6: was saying, but just being really honest.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, and you get to that stage.
33:27
Speaker 2: I mean, Kraty knows his body well at this point
33:29
Speaker 2: and the bodies breaking down a little bit. As far
33:31
Speaker 2: as being a major league pitcher, it's a fact, so
33:34
Speaker 2: maybe it gives them a little extra motivation.
33:36
Speaker 1: He's telling himself. They say that I'm done, but I
33:39
Speaker 1: don't feel like I'm done. So we'll see if he
33:42
Speaker 1: can come back for the Tigers.
33:43
Speaker 2: They've needed him, but we'll see if the Tigers are
33:46
Speaker 2: in a good spot by the time he comes back
33:48
Speaker 2: to that's part of it.
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Speaker 5: He can't hit either, so no, the Tigers don't need
33:53
Speaker 5: him that bad. They need any hitters.
33:58
Speaker 1: I don't see that.
33:59
Speaker 2: I don't think they'll be adding unless they go on
34:01
Speaker 2: some crazy run the next couple weeks.
34:03
Speaker 1: But we'll see. Let's go to the Al Central here.
34:06
Speaker 2: This is a tough loss, even for a few games
34:08
Speaker 2: because this team also is staring at cell mode. The
34:11
Speaker 2: Royals lost Bobby Wood Junior. He hasn't played since Thursday,
34:15
Speaker 2: Grade one MCL sprain.
34:17
Speaker 1: That's bad. I mean, also, he's an MVP candidate.
34:21
Speaker 2: If he's not the leader, he's certainly top three crats,
34:24
Speaker 2: So you don't want to see Bobby go down for
34:26
Speaker 2: a long period of time.
34:26
Speaker 1: Plus it's the knee.
34:27
Speaker 2: He's a guy who uses his speed and his agility
34:30
Speaker 2: a lot.
34:31
Speaker 5: Not great, No, definitely not great, especially when you're talking
34:35
Speaker 5: about a team that has to crawl out of it somehow.
34:38
Speaker 5: I don't think they're going to crawl out of it,
34:39
Speaker 5: but they were kind of built to crawl it for
34:42
Speaker 5: the last few years, and I thought this team was
34:44
Speaker 5: going to do better. I think they're a playoff team. No,
34:48
Speaker 5: but if you told me the American League was as
34:50
Speaker 5: bad as it is, I would have said, the Royals
34:53
Speaker 5: will figure out a way. The Royals will figure out
34:55
Speaker 5: a way because they play good, great defense, they have
34:58
Speaker 5: solid pitching, and the just they're just not winning games.
35:03
Speaker 5: You know, for whatever reason, you can't lose an MVP.
35:05
Speaker 5: He was my MVP candidate for the season, my MVP
35:08
Speaker 5: pick for the season.
35:10
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's a tough well loss, depending on how
35:13
Speaker 6: long Because on our bucket territory, I think he was
35:16
Speaker 6: when we did our preseason. I think he was my
35:19
Speaker 6: pick as well, just for everything that he can do
35:22
Speaker 6: for that team offensively and defensively.
35:25
Speaker 7: But you mentioned around the knee mcl sprain.
35:29
Speaker 6: Speed is a big part of his game, being on
35:30
Speaker 6: his feet, you know, moving, being athletic is a big
35:33
Speaker 6: part of his game. So obviously you're gonna listen to him,
35:36
Speaker 6: but you're also gonna, you know, take your precautions just
35:38
Speaker 6: to be really careful because you don't want to lose
35:41
Speaker 6: him for any longer than really what.
35:43
Speaker 7: You have to.
35:45
Speaker 2: A couple more injuries. I'll just run through quick. Two
35:47
Speaker 2: more from the weekend. Jack Lighter ankle impingement, so he
35:50
Speaker 2: goes on the shelf. He'd been struggling a little over
35:52
Speaker 2: his last couple starts, so that hurts for the Rangers.
35:55
Speaker 2: They're built almost solely on pitching right now. I mean,
35:57
Speaker 2: that's a run prevention team if therever one. Same with
36:00
Speaker 2: their ballpark, so never helps. And then also Liam Hicks
36:05
Speaker 2: placed on the injured list with the backstreenkrats. He's actually
36:08
Speaker 2: one of the guys that basically nobody knows nationally the
36:11
Speaker 2: lower backstrain for him, but he's been really good for
36:13
Speaker 2: the Marlins. And the Marlins have been really freaking good
36:16
Speaker 2: this month. They're playing their way back into some wild
36:19
Speaker 2: card thoughts.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they're taking advantage of the teams that
36:23
Speaker 5: are that are coming in a little bit of an
36:25
Speaker 5: easier stretch. Yes, they're playing into that wild card. But man,
36:29
Speaker 5: you can't lose a guy like this. To me, I
36:31
Speaker 5: thought Hicks was supposed to be there, their one all
36:34
Speaker 5: Star pick. But if they keep winning, maybe they get
36:38
Speaker 5: more than one. Maybe they get but they have a
36:41
Speaker 5: ridiculous catcher in I am totally blanking on his name now,
36:47
Speaker 5: Mack who they brought up and Mack to me, I
36:51
Speaker 5: think Joe Mack behind a dish is really helping change
36:56
Speaker 5: some of this. I'm not saying Liam Hicks isn't very good.
36:58
Speaker 5: I'm saying Augustas Ramirez getting sent down. I feel like
37:03
Speaker 5: they have a tandem. Now, I'm sorry, Augustine, august Stine Ramirez,
37:10
Speaker 5: we got sent down. I think this catching tandem has
37:13
Speaker 5: really helped these pictures get the most out of them
37:17
Speaker 5: because of what they're adding defensively, night in and night out,
37:21
Speaker 5: no matter who's behind the dish.
37:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, Marland's are on a fourteen and four run right now,
37:28
Speaker 2: they've won four games in a row.
37:30
Speaker 1: That a great weekend.
37:32
Speaker 7: Yeah, just for them.
37:34
Speaker 2: I think if they traded on their half game half
37:36
Speaker 2: game out of a wild card spy right now.
37:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're in it.
37:39
Speaker 7: They're in it.
37:40
Speaker 2: We'd love to see them out a little bit and
37:41
Speaker 2: not subtract Sandy al Contra. I mean, this is why
37:44
Speaker 2: you sign them up long term so you have them
37:46
Speaker 2: for a season like this.
37:47
Speaker 1: Will that actually happen? I don't know.
37:50
Speaker 2: Hey, we talked about this with Bob Nightingale, but from
37:53
Speaker 2: our crew, Sonny Gray said, quote, someone came to me
37:57
Speaker 2: from the Red Sox and made a decision that's the
37:59
Speaker 2: direction this team was to go. I would be open
38:01
Speaker 2: for a conversation. Whatever happens from then, only time will tell,
38:04
Speaker 2: but I would be open for a conversation. So to me,
38:08
Speaker 2: very clearly, Jay, that means Sonny Gray down to get
38:12
Speaker 2: traded to the right team. He's got the full note
38:15
Speaker 2: trade class. You know, he let that go this offseason
38:18
Speaker 2: to move from Saint Louis to Boston. Funny enough, the
38:22
Speaker 2: Cardinals are Wildcard contenders, the Red Sox are not. But
38:26
Speaker 2: like Bob mentioned, maybe he'll end up back on the Cardinals.
38:30
Speaker 6: Yeah, you never know. As you mentioned, Sunny Band open
38:34
Speaker 6: to conversations. Obviously, Boston's had a lot going on this
38:37
Speaker 6: season with really kind of cleaning the house. And for
38:41
Speaker 6: a guy that was you know, traded there mentioned as
38:44
Speaker 6: you mentioned, wanting to you know, have a chance to
38:47
Speaker 6: play in the playoffs, where he was thinking, you know,
38:50
Speaker 6: what it was going to be is not what it is.
38:53
Speaker 7: You know, He's like, you know what, I'm not.
38:55
Speaker 6: Saying I'm jumping ship, but if there's an opportunity out there,
38:58
Speaker 6: let's make it happen. Because uh got rid of the manager.
39:01
Speaker 6: Then I just saw you know, obviously scouts going back
39:03
Speaker 6: into the stands, which all things are you know, pointing
39:07
Speaker 6: to it didn't turn out the way that it did
39:10
Speaker 6: when he got traded. And it's not saying he's like,
39:13
Speaker 6: oh I don't.
39:15
Speaker 7: Like this place.
39:16
Speaker 6: He probably I ain't saying he does or doesn't. But
39:19
Speaker 6: for a guy that wants to win, has been some
39:20
Speaker 6: places and it's not turning out to be what he
39:22
Speaker 6: hoped what he waved his trade clause for. He wants
39:26
Speaker 6: to add value somewhere